🏆-event-chat

[abstract gate]

Everyone else’s fault that they forgot how bad it was to get officers last year.

Everyone else’s fault that they spent all their stuff outside of spend events.

[brisk pilot]

@nova valley if you think it is poor planing for us members to have no rare or epic start you are greatly wrong. Scoplay got us to spend all of them last month in way to many events, and there is no good way to source them without spending, some of us do not get paid to play this game. Come sack to reality and see how stupid this event mad arc is.

[abstract gate]

You can’t win everything without spending.

You never could.

You probably never will.

[thick robin]

Since the last arc, i feel like you should have been able to source two rares fairly easily

Are you saing that you did all the between arc events, used those tokens for mada directives and havent ran any rare or epic since last month.... have been pulling your unc mada alliance chest daily .... and you still dont have enough to run even a single rare mada?

More likely: youve ran those rares outside of a rare/epic sms.... probably for the deal dmg one (if i were to guess) .... and hence, you wasted the directives....

[south arrow]

So ur saying we can’t win sms without spending?

[thick robin]

Almost every sms can be completed f2p with proper planning.... last month with multiple mada sms maybe not, but thats very rare occurance

This arc is trash... but there is nothing wrong with todays sms event, its fairly stock standard

[hardy geyser]

Did not get any rare directives from the unc armada alliance chests the last couple of days

[south arrow]

No it’s not last time was spend g mat and armada

[thick robin]

I said "since last monrh"

[hardy geyser]

Yeah..,,I had enough to start 2 rares…..that’s not enough to get the event done

[thick robin]

Gets you most of way there (over half)

If five ppl group together... each with two rares... and they run them all, thats ten rares beaten, each person having started two.

[hardy geyser]

And still event would not be done….after the 2 rares 28 more rares needed

[thick robin]

Tbh you shoulda had more than two, but rng can bite you on the chests i got it.... but two should be absolutely bare minimum anyone can run

[hardy geyser]

I get roughly 10 rare directives per week, buying 2 chests each day

[thick robin]

Smh

Theres multiple directive sourcing videos out there, id suggest you watch one and take notes

[nova valley]

you wanna talk about how bad the arc is? sure, i can do that. THIS event is not bad. it's been around since october, and if you think you can't cmopletethis event f2p, then perhaps you'd do better if you DID consume our content. it's cute though that you think i'm paid to play the game 😉

[thick robin]

Arc is trash 🤣

[nova valley]

but all that aside, if you wanna learn, come learn. i will teach 🙂

[nova valley]

agreed. LOL

[thick robin]

Im still mixed on whether its worse than borg arc

Event and content wise i think so.... the concept of dabo wheel though, the idea .... well it isnt bad.

Remove the limits and i say its a good reward mechanic (or raise limits to where f2p sms dabo income for entire arc is the limit on each category... ie a f2p player completing all sms could sink all those dabos into a single category)

[nova valley]

oh hell. borg is looking pretty sweet this month LOL

you're riht. dabos are awesome. very very very cool. the bright spot of the arc for sure.

[thick robin]

They say even a broke clock is right twice a day.
I think they got it pretty close to right with dabo..... so im waiting on the second "right" this arc 🤣

[full notch]

Borg events? I'd welcome it over this

[thick robin]

Borg arc, not borg events lol
God borg arc was horrible

[full notch]

🤣🤣🤣

Well, almost over. Hopefully, better next month 🤞

[viscid sinew]

What's this high-horse "proper planning" nonsense? Get your feet on the ground. Since last arc, when they sucked all dry of directives, a f2p player who has a life outside the game, could maybe source one rare and a quarter epic. How the flying wombats could anyone do "proper planning" with that?

[nova valley]

the secnd right COUULD be the officer meta. that's a 6 month classic by now, and SCORES more folks will get quark than woulda if it was auction only. i maintain that that is a good solid player beneficial mechanic.

very much so

[full notch]

It can only get better, <crossing fingers >

[viscid sinew]

Every sms, daily and BP milestone events should not take more than two hours effective game time per day to finish. What happened with the promises that they would reduce screen time needed for essentials?

[thick robin]

What???
Most of this month ive been finished with everything within 30 minutes of logging on, and thats with having to fly 10 minutes out to lvl 50 deep space systems

[viscid sinew]

That doesn't compute

[thick robin]

Weekends have been the only days that have been a little time consuming, saturday and sunday have traditionally been heavier on events than weekdays

[viscid sinew]

Game time is even less in weekends, as real life is at the forefront

[thick robin]

For some, for most there is more game time on the weekend

[viscid sinew]

Point is, they are wearing out players, and fueling player grind. That's fine for a while, financially for scopely, but it is not sustainable

[thick robin]

Ive heard more complaints about lack of events and overall boredom that people being overwhelmed

If you think this arc is overwhelming with screen time, dam son you must have really really really really struggled in every single other arc ever ran

[viscid sinew]

Lack of interesting events... Armadas are time consuming like no other events

[thick robin]

There havent even been many armada events lmao

[viscid sinew]

But, yes, you're right that this arc isn't the most time consuming. But was more talking about the trend over the last 6 months or so

And the reason it's boring now is that most of the events are so far off that I don't even start them

Like the event sets that stat with sms and then they throw in a SLB event in the middle

When that happens, the whole event is a write off

[thick robin]

Theyve dropped game time requirements for this arc to nearly zero.... if, during an arc that takes no time at all, you complain about the time requirements.... one of two things happen

1. they just stop listening
2. they cut events down further

[viscid sinew]

It is zero because I don't do any, because its pointless. Doesn't give me anything, no pleasure, no fun, no excitement. Just worthless pixel numbers on my phone

Why should I grind rep? To what end?

[thick robin]

Welp, that pretty much settles that

Enjoy your conplaining, im done with this convo

[viscid sinew]

No way I need to grind rep to get new ships. G5 ships can kill my g3 epics just fine already. I will never compete with those who spend.

To play the game i need something else to make me stay

I don't care one bit about silly competitiveness. Only paying players care about that.

[abstract gate]

This is scopely’s hold my beer moment. Please don’t say it this way in the company of scopely

[nova valley]

There’s no reason to play if you’re not enjoying yourself. For most of us it is progression and team.

[neat barn]

fomo

[viscid sinew]

For me too, it's just my expectation of progression that is lower than competitive and/or paying players

After 3 years and some since I started, I'm ops 39 with level 20 g3 epic ships. Quite a lot are about the same. Quite a lot of krill for the whales. Remove krill, replace with new krill through churn, is not sustainable. To me this means scopely only wants to squeeze the lemon until it is dry, the drop the game and do something else. It's a big question mark if scopely wants to develop the game long term, say the next 3 years.

(as 3 years is long term in the game industry)

[coarse wagon]

what a 💩 event for an ops22

[dapper drum]

for any ops

not gonna sit queueing up in arms all day for it just so don't have to buy a pack, just ignore it all together

[stuck geode]

for f2p players it is very hard to get rare and epic directives

I save all mine for events like this and it's still hard. and even when you do have them the spawn rates are near impossible to find the armadas to run

[dapper drum]

and only way to stash up the rare directives is to sit in armadas all day long every day

I don't even do dailies anymore, I sometimes log in to see whats up then close the game its a joke now

[stuck geode]

but for f2p players we don't get enough directives to run uc daily to get rares and epic

you get 1 armada a week.

with 6 slots that means you get to run 6 per 7 days.

assuming your working as a group

for people earlier saying all you have to do is run armadas constantly as a f2p player. they obviously haven't actually tried f2p and reallize how much these events cost in terms of total directives that f2p players get.

[dapper drum]

yeah but that is by design

people wouldn't buy packs if they didn't have to

f2p is of no concern to scopely

[stuck geode]

o I know. just counter pointing those saying this event was good for f2p players

[thick robin]

No one was saying it is good for f2p

Many just pointing out that it can be acomplished with proper planning

You get directs not only from your green mada chest but also from the "between arc" events

[stuck geode]

even with proper planning it's difficult to and that's assuming you can even find the armadas to run

[thick robin]

And your daily goals for that matter

Yes it is difficult, but doable.... ofc its going to be difficult, everything on a f2p account is difficult

[stuck geode]

like I said I save all mine for events like this. and it's still difficult

doable is yet to be seen. 😅😂

[thick robin]

There are many saying its impossible, or near impossible... or that they couldnt run any rare or epic madas.... thats piss poor planning on their part

[coarse wagon]

I can't even run armadas since I cant buidl the armada control center yet. I need to level to ops23, do the research, build the armada center and then run 4 armadas.

[stuck geode]

I could run it this month... but is next month better. 😂

[thick robin]

If you came into this event unable to run any rare or epic armadas.... then you arent doing it right. Two rare should be within the reach of anyone properly planning

Epic madas and anything more than two rare... sure ill concede that point, maybe rng hates you.... but two rare is not hard

[coarse wagon]

are you trolling?

[thick robin]

Not at all

[coarse wagon]

I shouldn't even have this event. I should have something appropriate to my level.

[thick robin]

I was speaking to the other guy... at ops 22 you shouldnt really have the event imo lol

[dapper drum]

rares do nothing for this event

they are just as bad as uncommon

only way to complete it is epics

I'm not sitting doing armadas for 20 hours a day to do some stupid event

and thats 1 to 2 hours hunting for each one

event requires 82k points

rares are garbage

only way to complete it is buy a pack

[thick robin]

Lmfao, and im accused of trolling

[dapper drum]

or waste your entire day

[stuck geode]

rares give 20k points for you to run

[dapper drum]

still garbage

2 rares doesn't dent it

as he is saying you only need 2

[stuck geode]

so 2 rares assuming you win gives you 43k

[thick robin]

Bro, try learning to read

[dapper drum]

they need to get rid of this garbage armada event and bring back the real armada assault

that was doable multiple times a month as f2p

[dapper drum]

(61) RetroHunter — Today at 6:22 PM
If you came into this event unable to run any rare or epic armadas.... then you arent doing it right. Two rare should be within the reach of anyone properly planning

[stuck geode]

I mean I do think they should re-add uc for points but that's a different subject

[south arrow]

Retro hunter must be paid by scopley 🤣

[thick robin]

I didnt say two rares is all you need... i said getting directives for two rares since the last mada event is easily ackomplished by any f2p player who is properly planning

[dapper drum]

and still doesn't cover it

[south arrow]

I have seen very few who defend scopley this much

You would need directives for 5 rares if you can find them

Lmao

[thick robin]

If i get four other f2p players who have properly planned... and we all have two rares... thats ten rares we can run

[south arrow]

Wow you duck at math retro hunter

Only get 1500 points for winning a rare

[thick robin]

So ten wins plus two starts... that gets me right at like 65k points... from a bare minimum of what is easily ackomplished lol

[south arrow]

Would need to win 56 rare stands to finish event

Ur math still sucks

[stuck geode]

you need to account that you will be joining the others in their armadas also

[thick robin]

55k maybe lol... in any event..

[south arrow]

Math is hard 🤣

[bitter snow]

4 starts and the wins should do it?
I'm just glad I placed high on the SLB so I don't need to care about the event 😂

[stuck geode]

it's durable with a small amount of rares and epic directives

[thick robin]

Dont remember the scoring... ive finished it on both my paid and f2p accou t

[south arrow]

I need 85k so more for me

[stuck geode]

my issue is getting enough of them as a f2p is difficult

[thick robin]

I had three rare and one epic saved on f2p account.... shrugs

[bitter snow]

Everyone needs 85k

[south arrow]

With all the events that have required rare and epic armadas most people are low on them

Why was retro hunter saying 65k?

[thick robin]

Im assuming you save all rares and epic for these events, right? From the between arc events (one rare there), your uncommon pulls, etc? Its tough... and you are highly unlikely to get enough to do it by yourself.... but working as a team with four other f2p that do the same you should be able to do it

[south arrow]

So start 2 rares and be in 28 other rares sounds easy 🤣

How many armada credits do u get? I sure don’t get that many

It takes me 1-2 months of uncommon pulls for 1 rare

[bitter snow]

You can get 2 between battlepasses between apex and cow

[thick robin]

2 rare start 40k
Ten rare wins (team of five ppl all starting two): 15k

Yes, i misspoke, its 55k.... i corrected that immediately in next comment

[bitter snow]

Or 1.5

[south arrow]

Why do u need less points I need 85k

[thick robin]

I always assume the worst in that every now and then we dont get both of those events

[bitter snow]

Realistically, you want to start and win 2 epics or 4 rare to finish these events, if you're doing it solely on wins there's too much screen time involved 😂

[stuck geode]

shrug I just happy I ended up top 5 in the last quark event. 😂

[thick robin]

Even the small ones count for same points as bigger ones. I found that the low lvl ones, and the independant ones are often overlooked.... might try that

[bitter snow]

But then you're wasting directives that could be supplying speedups, credits, bps, etc

[stuck geode]

needs to be faction armada per the event

[thick robin]

Its a decision you have to make... income vs time spent looking. If you cant find them and are limited on time, its an option

[bitter snow]

I agree with both sides here... Its doable with planning, but it's also a terribad event

The two views are not mutually exclusive

[thick robin]

We also have like two more days to complete... first day is always the hardest to find armadas in a three day event

[stuck geode]

and who even wants to mine more anyways?

[vital holly]

I'm assuming the event doesn't count e.mada directives spent. Correct?

[bitter snow]

Mainly the quiz ones here

But not the quark one, that was just a stupid mini faction hunt

[stuck geode]

I know the ones everyone looks forward to... jelly event and the killing heavy one (can't remember the name)

[thick robin]

Oh i agree that this year has been a horrible start. This arc itself is horrible, one of (if not "the") worst ive seen in two years playing.

But that has nothing to do with the absolute standard mada event that this event is, it literally runs every month..... everyone should know that by now

[stuck geode]

the borg mega cube event. everyone agrees was the worse

[bitter snow]

There's a limit to what they can do without adding more cumbersome "features" event wise... Dig stuff, shoot stuff, spend stuff... That's kinda it.

[thick robin]

I mean, we are two months off of the best arc lol, lets not get overly dramatic

[bitter snow]

I still prefer the "deal damage" variety

[thick robin]

Theres two that run, deal dmg (you should use unc) and rare/epic .... ppl confuse them. They both run every month

[stuck geode]

just depends if you want the points but don't want to waste your time

[thick robin]

Guy is just a troll... dont bother

[stuck geode]

with lag/spawn rates. do you risk going for a big one or take a small one you know you won't be scopelied on

[south arrow]

Says the scopley troll 🤣

You’re only one defending this event retro hunter

[thick robin]

You still display a lack of understanding bud

[stuck geode]

you know what I should go back to doing... destroying people's armadas. 😂

[south arrow]

Read your comments you have a lack of understanding

You can’t even figure out the amount of points needed

[stuck geode]

nothing makes people happier than destroying their epics. 😍

[thick robin]

Some ppl whine and complain, others utilize the rss given to complete the events they feel they need to complete. This is completable by a f2p player who properly plans.

[bitter snow]

Indeed, I'm just saying which one I prefer as an event 🤣

[south arrow]

What level do r u? I’m guessing 28-32

[stuck geode]

me? 42

[south arrow]

Not you retro hunter

[thick robin]

46 (paid), 36 ($20 a month), 33 (f2p)

[stuck geode]

how do you have time for that?

lol

[south arrow]

No life?

[thick robin]

Barely play the two smaller accounts, a few minutes a day

[bitter snow]

Same way he's doing ten armadas I guess 👀

[south arrow]

Paid troll?

[keen ledge]

Keep it civil.

[south arrow]

Sorry 🤣

[spring comet]

ive just did 3 rares and no points in provocation event

[bitter snow]

Were they independent?

[keen ledge]

Provocation is FKR only

[spring comet]

2 feds 1 klingon

[bitter snow]

Throw it at Cs...

[thick robin]

Try restarting real quick, i had points not show earlier due to lag

[bitter snow]

Or restart, sometimes scoring is delayed

[spring comet]

yep restart fixed it cheers

#blameJess

[keen ledge]

The lag is real.

[thick robin]

Its terible today

[stuck geode]

it's normal

[keen ledge]

I fixed mine by clearing cache and threatening my tablet.

[thick robin]

Worse for me today than normal (but yea lag is a thing)

To point where i thought it was my phone, so switched over to computer... still had terrible lag, so i grabbed a hammer and told both phone and computer if they dont straighten up i was going to smash them.

Then i saw other ppl complaining so i gave my devices a bye, for today

[keen ledge]

Step 1: clear cache
Step 2: reboot device
Step 3: threaten device

[thick robin]

https://tenor.com/view/guaton-computadora-enojado-computer-rage-gif-14480338

Im pretty sure i had that exact same computer back in the day (even had a keyboard with the curly cord on it)

I felt this mans pain

[keen ledge]

I think we all did at one time.

[thick robin]

He shouldnt have took it out on the keyboard though, for cheap... stock keyboards those things were awesome

[stuck geode]

try being the person responsible for fixing those problems. 😂

then you really feel his pain

[thick robin]

Used to be (well, network side). About ten years ago i decided that was going to either kill me, or make me kill ppl so i changed careers lol

So now i just tell ppl they cant use thumb drives and not to click links in email... easy life, its great

[stuck geode]

cyber security? same here

[keen ledge]

I just make cord messes behind my desk that drive my husband crazy. 🤣

[thick robin]

Stupid things smh

[stuck geode]

if you haven't watch bhis did a good video on infosec burnout. 😊

[thick robin]

Ive got a good gig, smaller (albeit nationwide) company.... actualy handle both cyber and physical security. Got a good team on both sides.

[stuck geode]

that's good. just something the industry as a whole deals with so I been sharing that around with other professionals.

small company here but I deal with feds as my client

blue team

[thick robin]

Ill take a look.... imo big thing is to manage engagement... folks cant drone away doing same crap all the time

Oh screw that, i want nothing to do with feds lol...

[stuck geode]

lol someone has to protect them from their own stupidity

[thick robin]

Way too much tape to navigate

[stuck geode]

tapes not the problem... lack of wanting to work/politics is the worse

[thick robin]

Pft, wont do any good... theyll just box the stuff up and take it home, or use their personal blackberries for everything, or store a copy of everything on a private server... or give it to hookers

[tranquil swan]

So I guess scopely doesn't want my money. Weird concept.

Bought the t7 feesha upgrade pack. No new pack appeared to replace it

[thick robin]

Restart your game

Unless you havent teired freesha... new pack wont show till you teir

[tranquil swan]

I'm t7

It didn't just happen. I bought to t7 during the first slb

Was hoping the packs would be here for the second run

[scarlet gazelle]

Feesha is a very popular ship on my server a lot of whales bought at least 1 some bought 3 ,its a pity that no one uses them any more and all the whales have gone back to using faction miners for conlat ,,It was a race from most F2P to see who could hit the most opc feesha at a time really easy targets they are and its a nice surprise when you get the chance to hit them as like i said most dont use them anymore ,Well done scopely for convincing them to waste more cash on a pointless ship keep up the good work 🤣 🤣 🤣

[tranquil swan]

Somebody check on Godzilla

[fair summit]

has anything been revealed. of course not they aren't that bored.

[fiery sable]

Has the score been reduced for setting epics in the quarks test event? Similar events in the past could be completed by setting one epic and one rare which it isn't for sure this time around.

[hardy geyser]

At least all the last occurrences of this kind of event I can remember scored 20k for starting a rare and 35k for starting an epic just like this time

[abstract gate]

Possibly, or milestone increased or something.

You certainly used to be able to two shot it at 40-41. Now I need to run two epics and mooch a few.

I assume they value Quark very highly

[fiery sable]

Snap, never been 20k short of the end after setting one of each before

Hopefully Quark is worth the effort 😂

[trail nova]

Quark event is insane, 2 rare started and 1 epic and still not finished that event and then they also pull the small armada pack so you would need to buy the 100 euro packs. Again scopely shows how greedy they are 🤮

[surreal mango]

Yes, you're right, that's pretty cheeky

[cedar laurel]

same here!

[hardy geyser]

Does starting swarmadas score for the quark event? After joining a lot of rare and epic armadas in my alliance and starting 2 rares I’m still 20k off. But only 110 rare directivesand outcome of the rare or uncommon armada chests in alliance shop is a bad joke

[rugged zenith]

Why are you even surprised? Stop buying those packs then

[rugged zenith]

It’s not. The amount of events needing directives far outpaces the ability to procure directives.

[neat barn]

feels like yesterday's ticketed events...

[near sequoia]

not true, u dont play for a long time as it looks like

i saved directives for 2 months and few days all i got was 370 rare directives and 201 epic

this event requires 500 epic and 400 rare

not possible to do it every month but possible to so it every 3-4 months depands on RNG which is imo anything but ok for a free 2.play game...

[alpine yoke]

The best part is that they fixed epic and rare exchange armadas counting toward the event which people could use to slowly grind it out. Last month people thought they were giving us an out, frustrating as it might be, but nope probably just a bug that they've since fixed. Buy armada packs or don't bother

Or save your directives for 3 months for events that happen every month. Fun 👍

[neat barn]

all armadas should be similar to exchange armadas

[alpine yoke]

Cool. How are you getting those epic directives unless you're relying on other people in your alliance to NOT be cautious with their rare directives outside events? Either way, someone's paying. Saying 'well it's not me because I'm being carried so that makes it ok' is just pawning the cost off on others. If no one is spending directives outside events I don't for one second believe you can accumulate enough directives to complete this event via f2p unless you're skipping months.

slb events have been primarily spender events forever, now they're turning sms events into them as well

[near sequoia]

yep so true....

[twilit kestrel]

Where do I find the mission dark space?

[near sequoia]

it is the main mission chain and unlocks @ops38

@twilit kestrel

[twilit kestrel]

Found it thx

[abstract gate]

The small armada packs are horrifically bad value anyway.

[bold citrus]

Better save materials and stuff for next weekends SLB of you ask me

But ofc depends on how your server ticks

[torpid light]

Scopely, Please adjust epic and rare armada spawn rates in dark space during an event. Made even worse that you have to fly to each system to check if there is one and can’t just look.

[trail nova]

Did not say I bought them, but if you where a few short at least you could have a change

[trail nova]

Not everybody can just pay 100 euro for the good packs, and that shows the greed of scopely again.

[lapis echo]

It sucks to see all the cool stuff and not be able to get it because of cost.

[abstract gate]

They’re doing you a favour then.

[thick robin]

On my f2p accout i had three rare and one epic. Two of those rare came from between arc events, one was from unc chest pull collection. I almost had enough for a fourth.

The epic came from rare chest pulls, from the credits gained when i ran rares last month during armada events.

I do not get enough directives to run an epic every month, usually two out of three months. If i played that account more and joined more of other ppls rares i could do that better, but it isnt my main account.

This is why i reference rare so heavily, rare directives are whats going to get you there, epics are incredibly slow to accumulate.

For the record, i was not able to complete all of the mada events last month on f2p account, tried but didnt have enough stuff. Last month i agree was far too heavy on madas, this month is a pretty standard month and should be able to be accomplished.

I also didnt spend all my directives on my f2p account, because i had the epic i was able to save some of the rare for next month.

[abstract gate]

Seriously, spending a little on packs that will once every few months get you over the line, you’re far better saving or not spending.

[thick robin]

I would never suggest to someone that they should spend.

Last month was horrible for the number of madas needed. This month is ok, the score needed is a little high but can be accomplished by a f2p player who is properly planning

[thick robin]

True, Ive only been playing for 2 years

[abstract gate]

But it isn’t repeatable, and that’s the issue.

If you’re going to spend, don’t buy the £20 armada packs.

[thick robin]

The event that is running this month runs pretty much every month and is repeatable. Last month was certianly an issue, where they ran this event 3-4 times...... wana complain about that ill join you lol..... but if they keep it to one then it is fine

[abstract gate]

You’ll get 10-15x the points for 5x the spend in the bigger Galactic Armada pack, and a buckload of G3/G4 to go with it.

[thick robin]

Most of you guys are not utilizing all the avenues for procurement that available to you

[near sequoia]

hmm i figured out in the same playing time that if u dont buy directives that u cant collect enough IF u have used all your directives for previous events

and as the ppl already mentioned this style of events is coming back every month

as a f2p IMPOSSIBLE even with planing

[abstract gate]

Yup. It can’t be done every month F2P

And doing it with £20 packs ain’t gonna cut it. Realistically you’re buying that £100 pack every two months if you’re keeping up, which sounds a lot. BUT!

[near sequoia]

Bud even 1€is a lot for a game, but i can live with 20€BP already not gonna pay more than that

[abstract gate]

That’s cheaper than the 2+ packs a player needed in most brackets on most active servers would need to win the old auctions.

It is still an improvement.

[near sequoia]

in clash of clans for example the Battlepass only costs 5€ and u get much more rewards compared

[abstract gate]

How do you compare rewards between games?

[near sequoia]

that can be but we are talking about a SMS not a leaderboard

[near sequoia]

with ingamecurrancy/€

[abstract gate]

The SMS forms part of the replacement for the old auctions.

[thick robin]

And how many directives do you think can be collected on a monthly basis by a free to play player?

[near sequoia]

what is the new auction then ? 😄

[near sequoia]

depands HEAVILY on RNG and on players which bought directives

if u just go f2p maybe 50 a month rare

100 a month epic

[thick robin]

Thanks for proving my point

[near sequoia]

how ? 😄

if u need 400 rare and 500 epic

how did i prove your point ?=

u mean i disproved it

[thick robin]

Because directives for two rare armadas are absolutely garunteed from between arc events if you do it right

[near sequoia]

nope

not true 😄

[thick robin]

You can get directives to run one rare from apex... and one from cow

[near sequoia]

u get 100 rare from cow

lol 🤣

u have not compared the values its very obvious dude

[thick robin]

Smh

[near sequoia]

and the apex is totally RNG

[abstract gate]

Part of the new officer sourcing means that moderate and light spenders (relatively speaking) get much closer to an unlock, if they don’t actually unlock the officer.

[near sequoia]

in this point i agree

it got much easier to unlock new officers

[abstract gate]

All they gotta do then is place in the SLB spend events (auction) and they’re golden.

And place modestly.

Two top 25s on mine from memory gets you Quark, for example

[near sequoia]

now another issue i used 35k uncommons last arc for the auctions 😄

[abstract gate]

I use more than that each arc 😂

[near sequoia]

i cant place top25 in no quark

[near sequoia]

hooowwww ?!??!?! pls tell me your secrets, i dont collect G4 yet

just advanced to 39 last arc

[abstract gate]

G4 😂

[near sequoia]

ahhahaahaha

[near sequoia]

😱😱😱😱

but nice dude

im lacking dill too, jumped from 36 to 39 and speeded up a lot of researches in 2 hours 🤣

[abstract gate]

Oh that’s old 😂

[near sequoia]

i thought i was smart doing 49 transporters for combat training until 45 (now boss too heavy) but it was a mistake

[near sequoia]

tokens ?

[abstract gate]

Events

[near sequoia]

yeah events got better with ressources finally in the last arcs another + to mention 🤣

not only negative things

[abstract gate]

Event store months like last month are always barren.

[near sequoia]

yep 💪

[abstract gate]

Time to catch up on the officers from the last arc(s) you missed out on.

[near sequoia]

🙈

[abstract gate]

I missed Three.

I love her.

So happy now I have her 😂

[near sequoia]

yeah she is great and very useful

[abstract gate]

150k PC on Meridian, 45k/hr on 4* gas 😅

[near sequoia]

😂

on our server they have almost forbidden meridians to mine in deepspace .... by excluding special miners from G3 and G4 sources ... glad that a lot ppl said no to it

[short gorge]

I get 284k protected on my T4 hydra with her and DuPont. Mining on easy mode.

[south arrow]

My guess they want the game shut down 🤣

[cyan folio]

So we will get points for mining 2* mats, but not raw lat?

[inner cave]

The way I understand it is normal lat will be replaced by c lat

[south arrow]

What a stupid decision what next no g3 because we have g5

[full notch]

So, the Grand Nagus of scopley wants us to purchase the new dvor. 💩💩

[robust vapor]

Jokes on him. I got mine free 😆

[fallow latch]

Anyone know where to find the calendar of events for the ferengi arc?

[keen ledge]

Check pins.

Should be one by Old Man with the calendar.

[fallow latch]

Thanks how do I tell if any of them are for mat spend? Have an upgrade I’m holding off on for a mat spend event

[desert laurel]

there's not enough information on that calendar to determine that. You'll have to use the in-game schedule for that kind of detail. It's inside the interior of your station, on the center screen

[keen mist]

Who mines lat during lat rush anyways?

[south arrow]

I do

[robust vapor]

Me. Millions of the stuff on lowbie mines with multiple D'Vors 😂. Can't keep up with the G5 guys though.

[earnest hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656542930693128257/943616854495199273/stfc-arc-2022-02-01.jpg

[half jasper]

my question is rather simple ................... how to i switch servers or what ever to start at new base and not my current one

[abstract gate]

You can switch when you are below ops 10 .. collect sever transfer token and select servers under settings (US, EU, APAC etc)..

[half jasper]

im on pc

i used that before i knew what it was

8

i just wanna start at 0 or 1 now that i know what im doing

XD there was few times i jumped planets like a dummy 😄 never knowing

well thanks been fun 🙂 if i cant start at 0 with out doing new email guess game is going in deedeedee bin 😛 lolz

also no offence but i hate being forced to make media things "discord" to find out im not able to do things i want lolz

love yall have fun

[hardy geyser]

I have a question regarding the current Quark's Test event. Event description states "only Fed/Kli/Rom/Pirates below level 45 score". Does this also relate to the directives spend?
I'm missing 10k points, could I score by starting a swarmada (spening 100 rare directives)?

I only have 100 rare directives left and thus cannot start a regular rare marda and also my alliance members are all spend...

[abstract gate]

I believe Swarmadas will count for directives spent

Just not the victory

[hardy geyser]

directives spend would be sufficient for me, 100 directives = 10k points, exactly what i'm missing 🙈

[bitter snow]

they've counted previously

can't say for this specific event, but they've counted in the past for directive spend

[coral niche]

Swarmada starts count.

[neon crescent]

These armada events are far too frequent and the requirements are far out the reach of the majority of players

[hardy geyser]

Yeah....they should increase the number of directives from the unc marda chests, or add another way to get them...
On average I need like 3-4 weeks to get directives for one rare marda ....and for the event you need at least 3, otherwise you have to massively rely on your alliance members

[olive drift]

Or you have to miss the event 🙄

[hardy geyser]

sure, did that with many marda SLBs during the last arc 🙈

[static wigeon]

Anyone else finding the Romulan Star Skirmishers aren't counting in the event??

None of them are counting towards the event

Tried Klingons too just in case 😂

[onyx scarab]

well they really are just a tie breaker as they are one point per kill

[desert laurel]

lots of rom hostiles don't seem to work, good thing they'd only be worth 1 pt if the mechanic was working

[desert laurel]

hostiles aren't really a tiebreaker here since damage is already granular enough to separate everyone

[static wigeon]

Yeah, it's not an event breaker now. Just a heads up to fix whatever is going wrong before the points are higher in a future event

[median portal]

will concentrated lat be included in lat rush today?

[dire veldt]

yes, for ops 36+

[onyx scarab]

and reg lat excluded 36+?

[modern estuary]

apparently yes

more reason to not bother buying the ship.

i barely used the dvors i had im unlikely to use the feesha all that much either

its hard enough find the time to mine dailies, data, iso, and do the rest of your dailies let alone having to mine clat every day

[vital drum]

I'd rather mine clat daily (I already have 30 days worth double refines) than attempt to participate in the hideously useless weekly latinum mining event

[bitter snow]

Used to just do enough lat to do double pulls every day for a week on Mondays, just a bonus that it finished the SMS at the same time

[modern estuary]

yes it was an outdated event but it shouldnt exclude those who dont have feeshas, just reduce the points per raw lat mine would have sufficed

[olive drift]

Until I can get my phone fixed, I can't wait to get back in!

[bitter snow]

depends how they score the CLat, and whether it's only CLat, or if mats still score

And if they touch the payouts...

Which are terrible

[bitter snow]

No luck getting your account reconnected to new device?

[vital drum]

Surely surely, updating regular stuff isn't on Scopely to do list. I had 3 dvors and never really used them apart from getting the SMS if I hadn't bothered logging on all day

[bitter snow]

It is if that update increases the number of carrots for Scopely to dangle that relate to Feesha ownership (and spending) 🙂

[olive drift]

I just can't r the password for the Gmail account which is linked to the Gplay and the game/s I play 😵

[vital drum]

Well let's hope the event is worthwhile for the top 10 or so at least otherwise no-one will bother mining again. The latinum event was just garbage for anyone outside the top 3 and I have way too much stuff to do that isn't babysitting miners all day

[near sequoia]

can u proove that? when the arc begin other informations were shared. CLat will be added for the scoring in Monday RoA Mining event.... that means for me will stay the same but get CLat as addition ofc i might be wrong and outdated.

• Mondays Mining event had like others already mentioned, other ressources available for the scoring too, after your interpretation of the changes this must be changed as well and adjusted in the same way

G3---> G4

[vital drum]

Ugh I hope they change the rewards up

[abstract gate]

Apparently it was on one of the content creators streams yesterday they advised of the change to no normal lat for 35+

[tulip stump]

Cant belive this ark didnt include any way to get divor parts for those that have not maxed their divor yet

and if news is to be belived wont be able to take part in lat rush anymore

[abstract gate]

Will be in next month Ferengi Part2 .. they wanna sell packs for new Dvor this arc so no Dvor parts

[upbeat kestrel]

Will regular D'vor parts still be part of the prize payout for 36+

[near sequoia]

i hope it was ultimatnapjz and he was wrong as always😂

[near sequoia]

tbh if u have not maxed your dvor before ops 35 u have done a very wrong priorisation.... what is more needed and worth to have in this game than Lat?

my dvor was maxed at ops 26-27 dont remember anymore, i bought only dvor parts from event stores until it was maxed cuz the maxed refinery was tasty

[tulip stump]

Im at last tier but still 100k short on parts to max it. i only get 500 parts a day max refine. So need another 128 ish days to max at current rate.

it not through lack of trying

[near sequoia]

i understand your frustration, but leaving your dvor not maxed until now was a big mistake in general from my understanding about the game

[fleet needle]

Would be better if event shifted for those having the ship. Like different options display in store for a ship once you have it. Making it level dependent is just gonna make players completely fed up

[near sequoia]

comon they have a copy pasted language filter and now u expect such complex coding ???? 😂😂😂😂

[tulip stump]

its not through lack of trying though that is the problem. just the lat RNG hates me lol

[near sequoia]

u didnt understand me

i had a bad rng too, i used event stores to max it before All other ships

cuz nothing was in my eyes more needed than lat

with lat u have access to.almost every ressource

now ignore the feesha update, if u tell me.ure ops 35 and have no maxed dvor, i will tell u Oh boy u failed....

[bitter snow]

Or you just levelled faster than 35 levels in ~18 months

[near sequoia]

makes no sense

if i level faster i will be behind with dvor too 😅

[bitter snow]

4-5 months to get a first d'vor, remainder to max the sucker 🙂

[near sequoia]

1 event store was enough in my case to max the dvor

and i still had credits for other store items

[bitter snow]

You sank everything into parts?

almost everything

it's, 1000 for 400 parts?

[near sequoia]

nope i bought all parts i needed to max it and the rest into something else

[bitter snow]

or 400 for 1000? I can't remember 😂

[near sequoia]

i dont remember either, it was 1 year before in my case, as ive said i maxed it very early cuz in my eyes it is the most important ship to progress

[bitter snow]

Fair enough

[near sequoia]

but i remember the parts were not rly expensive

[bitter snow]

honestly, depending on my positioning on the next event store, once I unlock Discovery, I'll be splitting between charged probes, FMs and dvor parts 😂

[tulip stump]

for me discovery was more important. Got that and Summoning unlocked with event stores

[bitter snow]

not sure which one I prefer between FMs or Probes...

[near sequoia]

i had my dvor years before disco was maxed

and no the discovery gives u not the same boost for your progression loke the dvor

[near sequoia]

if u need your frank a i would recommend FMs

in my case the disco was added later to the game when my dvor was maxed already.😅

[bitter snow]

First time around I got all these ships in the launch events 😂

This is a new experience!

[near sequoia]

😂😂😂

[bitter snow]

last frank bps next week

[near sequoia]

yep true the other ships were always free in the bp.or even without bp

[bitter snow]

I can take it to t5 immediately

when t7 I think is top for my level (current) 29

[near sequoia]

i think so too

dont remember anymore

u need missions to do to advance with it

but if ure 29 and your dvor isnt maxed go for dvor parts

[bitter snow]

I keep having to count the odd levels between 17 and where I am, and for some reason never remembering...

also t5 😂

might hit t6 tomorrow depending on where I land on lat rush

[near sequoia]

u get 1k lat a day if maxed, i would not miss that in your case + u can mine in Sulliban 😂

[bitter snow]

nah, perma camped 🤣

[near sequoia]

😅🤣

[bitter snow]

Soon as I can hit 32 swarms at a reasonable rate I'll be pushing up toward 34 anyhow

[near sequoia]

ok, then camp at 34 until u have frank maxed

[bitter snow]

Figure a month or two

yeah

[near sequoia]

cuz 35 will be harsh without frank a

[bitter snow]

Then finally replace the vidar 🤣

[near sequoia]

Vidar will be useful always (iso opc)

[bitter snow]

I mean as my daily driver

[near sequoia]

ahhh ok

never used vidar as daily driver

[bitter snow]

I know, I remember the conversation/argument 😄

[near sequoia]

i dont like that suggestion, but i know it works

ik 😂

[viscid helm]

If you remember how the door was introduced I actually wonder that so many maxed it. (A) those who maxed it couldn't get dvor parts for a second one anymore, not even buy packs, it took scopely quite a while to fix that (B) when they had that fixed it wasn't that far ahead they changed the lat mining overall, apart from the slightly higher amount of daily refining there was no need for a t9. (C) going now from a t8 with engine t9 will costs you in average something like 4 months if you get lucky with the refinery

[tulip stump]

my point exactly. that last tier is brutal. unfortunatly

[bitter snow]

yeah, bringing up a second T8 is marginally (5k diff) cheaper than maxing to t9... two ships probably more efficient than one

505k for max, 250k for t8

it's certainly why I had two t7's before I realised I wanted more lat per day once I got into a rhythm of actually mining for a whole week at once

It didn't originally, way back

What happened? 😂

[near sequoia]

i misunderstood his msg 😂

[bitter snow]

aah

yeah, now you get the second option, before you were SOL

[near sequoia]

yeah exactly

[bitter snow]

I don't know what the cut off for "before" was, exactly

[near sequoia]

me neither when i started dvor was existing already

and it had already the fixes

[near sequoia]

if u have read what i wrote u would have seen that i recommend to.max the dvor asap with any event store....

[subtle drift]

Is there another power event this arc?

[near sequoia]

cuz i am aware that the refinery is rng based and most of the time it is not that good

see pinned message event calendar

[near sequoia]

u are going to skip the lvl 28 faction ships for sure?

[bitter snow]

Currently yes

[near sequoia]

😱😱😱😱

[bitter snow]

Depends a lot on how the events ramp up in the 30s

[near sequoia]

u will miss the most fun in this game

[bitter snow]

I already did it once 😄

[near sequoia]

saladin cant be skipped

its too op to be skipped

it crashes augurs at t4

entis at t3

d4s at t3/t4 (depand on opponent level)

and a t4 augur costs much more than a maxed sally, just saying 😅

[bitter snow]

Dailies are going alright so far... Chen going to R4 later tonight once I get the last handful of credits, and I can already do 35-36s in one hull for dailies, which sees me through to second part of Associate at minimum

Swarms are getting tight - that's where the frank comes in

[near sequoia]

• if u have harrison, pike crew and pixard crew u have a second ship for hostile dailoes with sally and Pike M, Hatrison or Picard, bev Harrison

[bitter snow]

yeah, not paying for harrison though, and they've not run a power event for him in over a year now

[near sequoia]

yeah sad.... the harrison event i mean

[bitter snow]

I know, that's how I got him the first time around 😂

[near sequoia]

and if u skip the 26s ship( i skipped them too) u will ger your f2p primes later

[bitter snow]

Max 28 is roughly equivalent in cost to a t5(and some) 32, or a t3 (and some) 34 ship

I have a legionary currently, but only have it low for cloaking

[near sequoia]

ok

[bitter snow]

I'll build that up + the other two - for primes around 33-36

[near sequoia]

thats why i hate vidar as a daily driver 😅 u cant prepare rly

[bitter snow]

when the efficiencies are in place

[near sequoia]

• eclipse event are harsh

[bitter snow]

and the events pay better 🙂

Got stella

[near sequoia]

ok

[bitter snow]

Longass grind to do them with the vidar, but did some before someone took pity on me and rammed me with a near-dead stella 🤣

[near sequoia]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[bitter snow]

then the 14 day wait for the credit bundles

[near sequoia]

wheen i started i bought my stella cuz there was no option to unlock it for free

after i bought it 2-3 weeks later they added it to rogue store 😅

[bitter snow]

yeah, first time round I got it in the battlepas

[winged linden]

Anyone else have CLAT score in LR?

none of my points counted

[barren moss]

Soooo no CLat scoring in lat rush things working as expected

[vague narwhal]

Bloody stupid removing normal lat from it

[unkempt lava]

Spock would die instantly at 1st contact with scopely logic

[wintry turret]

Yes, conc lat does not count for Monday lat event

[dim surge]

No normal lat mining counts in lat rush? Honestly lads this is just a smash and grab money attempt to force people to pay for the new lat miner pack. Ridiculous. Putting this in doesn’t make me more inclined to pay out for the new lat miner or purchasing parts to max it out. Means I will play less on Mondays from now on. Well done.

Also moved off 70k worth of 4star after event kicked off and counted for nada. 🤯

[barren moss]

They reduced regular lat to 1pt and add CLat at the old lat points but not working.

[dim surge]

No normal lat for me on my event they’ve tiered it. If you are lvl 41 normal lat no longer counts

[gilded patrol]

Pulled my Feesha 5 minutes after reset, counted for the other events immediately but nada for RoA

[remote ferry]

Did you guys know CLat isn't scoring in lat rush?

[dim surge]

Same as me @gilded patrol

[glacial mauve]

I hear its not scoring

typical scopely

[remote ferry]

Didn't know if you all knew

[glacial mauve]

normal devs would have a test server to test this on

[real idol]

Money grab wankrs

[abstract gate]

Wait up a bit before y’all pull the ship out .. once they fix the score

[tacit geyser]

and people still throw money at them

[real idol]

Not me mate

[graceful coral]

Scopely and help does not fit together well

[real idol]

Scopely and unwashed cock does fit together well

[dire zinc]

CLAT not scoring here either for lat rush, c’mon Scopely, do better

[fierce cosmos]

CLat is also not even listed towards the ALB. Weak

[remote ferry]

Is CLat not scoring?

[hidden valve]

CLAT not scoring h

Go buy the new ship for the event, the event doesn't score clat. lol

[remote ferry]

What about CLat? Is it scoring for lat rush?

Has anyone tried it?

[elder gyro]

lat is only 1 point what

[wintry turret]

Now it is working with conc lat

[raw mountain]

Con lat working?

[hidden valve]

not working 16

[remote ferry]

Working for me, you guys must be doing it wrong

[wintry turret]

Devs must have fixed it

[remote ferry]

Make sure you mine Concentrated Latinum

[hidden valve]

I'm placing in the other events but lat rush leaderboard for clat

after restart too

[elder gyro]

its now gonna come down to who can mine the g4 or g5 lol

[keen ledge]

It's been fixed. 🖖

Thanks for raising the issue.

[remote ferry]

The game is perfect again.

Thank you

[elder gyro]

so the lat only being 1 pt is normal now

[keen ledge]

Yes

[fierce cosmos]

Working for SMS? What about ALB?

[elder gyro]

that is stupid

[keen ledge]

I don't even get that at 41. Just clat and mats

[hallow shell]

CLat still hasn’t scored on server24

[remote ferry]

Just mine 3m lat, easy.

[gilded patrol]

Confirmed scoring for ALB at 10pts/per

[keen ledge]

You will have to do another load.

[remote ferry]

Try it now

[fierce cosmos]

Yup, just restarted. Thank you

[hidden valve]

By fixed you mean that it counts after the fix, if you left the node before it was fixed it didnt count

[tacit geyser]

so 1 point per lat is now the new norm?

[hidden valve]

at least that is my current experience

[hallow shell]

So full unloads are all still lost?

[keen ledge]

Correct. Still waiting on an answer about missing points, but I assume it's a no go.

I also lost a full load of points.

[hidden valve]

Jess and I deserve points lol

[remote ferry]

Just Jess

Not you

[wintry cypress]

Wait, just to make sure I didn't misunderstand this: Normal Latinum will only give 1 point for ALB? And that's final?

[hallow shell]

It should be easy enough to fix, just add the points scored on the speculation event for Clat.

[remote ferry]

Time to start scrapping those baby D'vors

[keen ledge]

And only for 36-39 I believe. I don't get lat points at all at 41, just clat

[wintry cypress]

Im lvl 32 and only get 1 point each

[keen ledge]

Hm. Interesting. I only heard about the changes to 36+ but I guess that aligns it all.

[tacit geyser]

Scopely: "Go buy Feesha or D'Vor upgrade packs, fixed trololol"

[abstract gate]

I guess you’ll all live at losing a single pig full of points.

Or, @keen ledge is gonna have a very busy afternoon 😂

[wintry cypress]

I made approx 6.7 million points from G3 Mining, 150k latinum mined approx

[remote ferry]

No kidding

[keen ledge]

No, I have the "flu" today.

I scheduled it when they told us about this change.

🤣

[abstract gate]

Ah, you know what will help?

[remote ferry]

Brown bottle flu?

[abstract gate]

Cuddle a lamb.

[remote ferry]

That's what my doc diagnosed me with

[abstract gate]

Made me feel all warm and fuzzy anyway

Her name’s Nora. I ate her friend yesterday 😬

[keen ledge]

SLB gets 1 point, but what about your SMS?

[wintry cypress]

SMS is done. I was talking about ALB tho

[keen ledge]

Right, but SMS is still normal?

[wintry cypress]

ye

[abstract gate]

The ALB has never, ever been won by lat.

Ever.

[wintry cypress]

It was a good way to score some points without having 3 or 4 miners in lucrative systems.

[tacit geyser]

you are wrong

[abstract gate]

@pale wind do you want this one or shall I?

[fair sky]

Level 46 with feesha: concentrated Latinum does not score in Monday mining event. Get it fixed soon. Neither does Latinum.

[tacit geyser]

that doesnt prove Harmos statement

[last sun]

No regular lat counted anymore? Sweet, free Monday’s. You kinda screwed this one scopy. One more nail in the coffin

[tacit geyser]

nah

it just shows your result, your server

its pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of all servers

nah, i just say that you are pretty blind

[abstract gate]

Bit rich.

Lat is at best a tiebreaker

[tacit geyser]

"The ALB has never, ever been won by lat." is a very general statement you try to validate buy showing your high OPS bracket

[dim surge]

Sms not normal for me. Only concentrated lat and moved off 70k 4star and got nothing

[keen ledge]

SMS only stayed the same below level 36. Above that... Changes.

[tacit geyser]

still you are trying to twist a general statement your way

which simply wasnt a true statement

[dim surge]

Yup changes for me mean not participating on Monday lat rush event. 😂

[keen ledge]

For those who missed points in the first few minutes of lat rush, please contact CS. Event Ops alerted them to the issue.

[dim surge]

Pure smash and grab attempt to get people to buy lat miner packs

[keen ledge]

I haven't done lat rush in months unless, like today, battlepass requires mining 🤣

This is how they sucker me into it.

[viscid haven]

😠 1 point… really? Why? 😅

[dim surge]

Done it every Monday since the start. Won’t be coughing up 50 quid for the privilege of it. So no lat rush events for me In future. Sigh.

Another death nail in the game.

[tacit geyser]

the most rediculous part is, they also removed the dvor upgrade mats in the leaderboards, making it even harder to get your dvor to t9

[abstract gate]

Well it’s top 5 really gets those dvor parts .. me at ops 38 it’s near impossible to compete for top 5 is wasting 10 hrs plus

I’d rather keep hopes on everyday refines .. much lesser time waste

[tacit geyser]

i'm literally starved by being limited to daily refines and trash and outdated cosmic cleanup store

[abstract gate]

Everyone 😄😄 not just you

I mean whoever haven’t maxed their dvor

[tacit geyser]

yeah

which is a serious pain in the butt anyway

[ember walrus]

This is nuts

[abstract gate]

There’s always $$ a way 😄

[worn garnet]

Good job removing the normal latinum from the event . Is that don’t have the new ship will just give you 2 fingers . ……fire the guy that thought it was a good idea

[abstract gate]

I wish they had at least 3 points for normal lat or 5 points for normal lat and 20 points for conc lat

[viscid sinew]

Do i read it correctly, that ops 40+ will not score on lat, only Clat?

[ember walrus]

35+ reg lat is worthless

[dim surge]

Be under no illusion. This is what todays change is all about.

[abstract gate]

1 point is too small

[oblique dock]

Normal lat scores 1 point…. For 36+

[dim surge]

I wish! Normal lat scores zero for ops 41

[ember walrus]

Yes unfortunately

[ember walrus]

Same at 40

[dull crane]

What is wrong with the team at scopely. Get a clue and stop destroying the game. Just one opinion

[oblique dock]

Incorrect.. I am opps 45

[proven bluff]

@prime flax may look in today. All the other Devs gonna ghost because they don’t want to deal with justifying another Dopley money grab - trying to force you to buy the new lat miner if you want points in mining events.

[barren moss]

So what about all the points not received from ya know event not scoring properly lol.

[dim surge]

Incorrect? You receive points for normal lat at ops 45?

[oblique dock]

Yes

1 point per

[wicked fog]

No

[ember walrus]

Not like the 1k parts is that amazing its 1 component upgrade

[barren moss]

1 pt for reg lat at ops 49.

[dim surge]

Just to be clear zero points for normal lat at ops 41

[ember walrus]

In slb only

[abstract gate]

Depends on the event.

[dim surge]

Lat rush event

[viscid sinew]

Totally stupid that latinum scores only one point or even zero... Latinum rush. Scopely really want to just end this game

[dim surge]

The Normal monday mining event

[abstract gate]

Which one

There’s three.

[ember walrus]

Sms

[abstract gate]

In which case, correct.

[oblique dock]

Sorry.. sms you are correct.. I thought you meant slb @dim surge

[proven bluff]

Isn’t it great that they pull this and the devs ghost

[abstract gate]

The SMS doesn’t include normal Lat.

Past somewhere around Ops 35

[oblique dock]

40+ for sms only cannot use normal lat

[oblique dock]

40… not 35

[dim surge]

Again this is what these changes are all about

😂🤯

Blatant smash and grab

[oblique dock]

@everyone Welcome to the New & Improved Latinum Mining Monday. Please be aware of the changes to the mechanics as follows:

ALB - Currently Scores RAW Lat and traditional rss & mats: UPDATE: CLat is being added as we speak and may require a refresh to see the points

SMS - 36-39 - CLat OR Raw Lat will score, plus traditional mats or rss; Raiding will score. 
SMS - 40+ - CLat will score, plus traditional mats or rss; Raiding will score.```
```SLB - 35 and under - NO CHANGES
SLB 36+ - CLat will score, PLUS Raw will score (reduced point value) plus traditional mats. STEALING only will count for CLat, and has been removed for RAW lat.```
We are also aware of a scoring issue with CLat for the Latinum Rush Events for the first few minutes. This has been resolved and scoring for CLat should now be working properly.

[abstract gate]

Just carry on with your Dvor, and when you can get your Feesha then you’ve got that.

[keen ledge]

Thank goodness that tag doesn't work here

Or I would have to ban you.

🤣

[abstract gate]

Can you ban complainers?

They’re messing with my chill.

[wicked fog]

I think I’m about done with this game after this money grabbing beetle mining stunt!

[ember walrus]

"Improved"

[dim surge]

Get 500-600 dvor parts a week. Won’t get a maxed dvor for year or more

[oblique dock]

Oh god… never thought about that! Was a copy and paste 😂😂😂

[abstract gate]

She’s not god.

Not far off, but not quite.

[amber prism]

Good job scopely not changing the lat rush lb brackets

[keen ledge]

https://c.tenor.com/yK2lDlRvc8EAAAAM/parks-and-rec-amy-poehler.gif

[oblique dock]

But she is a pretty red colour….. it intimidates me

[abstract gate]

Worse

[amber prism]

So now not everyone can mine the same resources

[abstract gate]

She’s blue underneath it 😬

But admins never intimidate me.

Cos, y’kno, don’t be a 🔔 and you won’t get a 🔨

[proven bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/money-materialistic-gif-4656569

[ember walrus]

Never really could players with access to the 2m size 4* always had a huge advantage

[proven bluff]

Scopely

[warped stag]

@oblique dock braver men have tried the rath of @keen ledge .
I was a pleasure knowing you. 135 will not be the same.

[abstract gate]

Don’t say that. People will be very upset that lat rush never was about lat rush.

[keen ledge]

There was that one who accused me of attacking him with NPCs.

[main spindle]

The new lat rush sucks just saying. How can u expect people to mine C lat in lat rush if people don't have the feesha yet

[ember walrus]

💸 💰 🤑

[abstract gate]

Wait what?

[proven bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-gregor-pay-up-gif-8865194

[abstract gate]

Was this you @keen ledge?

Gave us a good old pasting that did.

[main spindle]

Not paying a dam thing to scopely if the keep their crap up

[abstract gate]

Note, two baby jellies and a Kelvin can’t three man a 41 😂

[ember walrus]

Honestly forget the new dvor

[keen ledge]

Oh yes. He was fascinating.

He thought Scopely, who he decided was me since I pointed out the issue with his argument, had attacked him with an NPC hostile captain over his political views.

[abstract gate]

Don’t have bollock.

I mean Arrock.

DYAC.

[ember walrus]

Yeah

[abstract gate]

You aren’t Scopely?! 😱

[sonic walrus]

@main spindle want you to either buy the new ship or the new Ferengi officer...if you don't have either you're out of luck unfortunately

[abstract gate]

There was me sweet talking you for free packs for nothing.

[ember walrus]

Its slightly slower but the cargo makes up for it

[ember walrus]

True

[keen ledge]

https://c.tenor.com/am5sK0PpM9MAAAAM/the-rock-eyeroll.gif

[abstract gate]

Nope that grammar makes my eyes itch.

https://tenor.com/view/howard-wolowitz-big-bang-theory-you-are-dead-to-me-dead-to-me-mrs-dead-to-me-gif-16996936

[warped stag]

She is, it’s her code.

[abstract gate]

Nah, her code is waaaaay better.

[warped stag]

That’s why she’s fixing Scopely’s

[ember walrus]

No need to insult her

[abstract gate]

There ain’t no fixing that.

https://tenor.com/view/mission-impossible-force-intro-gif-12142373

As everyone clearly needs to chill, I’m going to eat a donut.

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-maguire-show-me-the-money-tom-cruise-gif-10570851

@white light

[abstract gate]

Do what you always do with events.

Do whatever you do to complete them.

[ember walrus]

Ways to fix scopely's code
Windows based
format <drive>:\ -y
Linux
rm .

[dim surge]

I used to mine normal lat 😂

Thats working well haha

[abstract gate]

I usually just pull back four miners off 100k nodes 😂

[dim surge]

Did that also and gave me zero pts

[sonic walrus]

@dim surge normal lat doesn't pay the bills...how else is this small indie company going to keep the lights on

[abstract gate]

Off what nodes?

Crap, forgot my iso miners, BRB

[dim surge]

Small indie company? Lol take a look as last qtr results haha

[ember walrus]

Find is system now

[ember walrus]

They are small compared to Amazon

[sonic walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[dim surge]

Yup didn’t count. Been told there was issue at start of event and it didn’t count

[abstract gate]

Ah well.

Do it again 😂

[dim surge]

Erm compare to other game comps.

[tulip stump]

Yup which means those of us without a maxed divor to scrap are stuffed

[abstract gate]

100k is, what, two hours, maybe three of mining?

[ember walrus]

Blizzard

[dim surge]

Scopely Are not a small indie company. The original comp in Dublin was

But scopely bought them. No longer a small outfit

[sonic walrus]

@dim surge It was sarcasm, lol

They are worth probably close to $4 billion now

[oblique dock]

I am slightly amazed that people use lat for this event tbh! All about g4 for me.. all completed by 1 min after event reset

[potent rune]

is anyone else not getting points for the mining monday event by hitting oc dvors?

[ember walrus]

Till it about g5

[ember walrus]

Depends on ops check your event "improvements" have happened

[dim surge]

As mentioned in thread. No everyone above lvl36 can mine 4 star. And also several people received nothing after moving off 4 star mining node after first 10 mins of event

Choking the oxygen from the game tbh.

[potent rune]

ive been steeling clat as ops 43 and not getting any points for it

[oblique dock]

G3 then… I’ve never used lat.. I set miners out and come back in a few hours and event is Done… I then mine lat on a Wednesday or something..when no body else is to get enough for a weeks worth of pulls

[potent rune]

ive stolen almost 2m lat from oc and no points

[dim surge]

When was last time you competed 3m target on 3 star haha

[oblique dock]

What 250k in a day? Not over hard I wouldn’t say..

[sonic walrus]

36-39...what a weird level range decision

[potent rune]

so hitting an oc freesha on clat should score me points then correct?

[oblique dock]

If locked rep then you need 75k per day that’s 150k of it over the 2 days

[dim surge]

You’re obviously not a free to play player haha

[oblique dock]

Events do not need doing 2 hours after reset… maybe it’s a mindset issue

[keen ledge]

It should, but the team is investigating an issue with stealing clat not counting.

[sonic walrus]

@potent rune should, but isn't

[potent rune]

ok that makes sense then ty

[keen ledge]

It is counting for Speculation apparently

[potent rune]

its not counting on either for me

[oblique dock]

Attlepass only predominately

[dim surge]

Again this change is purely about this and nothing more.

[oblique dock]

Not spent ever on old dvor or this new one

It’s every Monday.. we all know it’s coming lol…

[dim surge]

Glad you are happy with the changes today. Most are not 👍🏼

[oblique dock]

I’m just trying to be constructive…. People moaning clearly aren’t doing it right .. which isn’t their fault…

It’s a planning issue

[dim surge]

No it’s not.

I had 80k 4star built up.

I moved off mine after 5pm

And got nothing

Suggest you read what I said before suggesting people are “moaning” or “not planning”

Have submitted ticket

[keen ledge]

I'm not happy. I'll adapt. Disappointed, maybe. But I also don't do lat rush regularly. I understand the angst though.

[dim surge]

But again the changes today are about the packs. Nothing more

Pure money smash and grab nothing more.

[abstract gate]

Actually it’s about the new ship.

[dim surge]

Which is obtained how if not paying

[abstract gate]

Which a large number of people got for nowt.

[abstract gate]

By scrapping a T9 Dvor.

[dim surge]

I’ve been doing every event and on tier 7

Have not missed a single event or opportunity for dvor parts.

[abstract gate]

How long you been playing?

[dim surge]

Except I haven’t won slb or come in top5

Since game began December 2019

[shut urchin]

I’m on DVor T7, but i only started mining and refining lat like 6 months ago

[oblique dock]

That’s crappy… I always wait until a couple of minutes past as been burned in the past…

I have read everything for last 30. Mins ish.

I’ve played this since launch and you learn how scopley do things something needs excessive planning for a mobile game …

[viscid sinew]

Usually 3* is my bulk of points for 3M

[abstract gate]

Then you’ve got several Dvors, or you took a lot of time out.

[viscid sinew]

Maybe 1M would be lat

[dim surge]

I have three dvors yup which is quite reasonable thing to do

[shut urchin]

I’m glad there are 3* rewards for lat rush again

[abstract gate]

Quite stupid, yes.

You now have three ships, none of which are giving you a T9 refine, and for what?

You’ve never come top 5, so I assume you accept that you’re never really going to.

[viscid sinew]

Scopely is desperately pushing players to buy Feesha, or scrap their hard-to-replace regular d'vor

[dim surge]

As I mentioned glad you guys were able to get to t9 for free. More power to ye for getting there. Most have not.

In general people haven’t dvor to t9

[abstract gate]

So you upgraded them all to a middling, mediocre tier to your own detriment.

[abstract gate]

Wrong.

[shut urchin]

Hard to replace?

[dim surge]

Wrong how?

[viscid sinew]

Normal D'vor at T9 is hard to replace, yes

[dim surge]

I can tell you most of my@server don’t have it haha

[abstract gate]

Most older servers (2+ years old) will have a T9 Dvor or have perpetuated the stupidity of upgrading two/three at once.

[viscid sinew]

+80% of players do NOT have a T9 d'vor

And you need two, you cannot scrap your only d'vor for a Feesha

As you then cannot mine lat anymore, effectively

[ivory shell]

The benefits of multiple D'vors far outweigh the benefits of 1 t9 d'vor

[dim surge]

And 3 middling dvors was smart approach for the lat rush sms event that was there rather than maxing one and letting other two rot. The fact that scopely changed the goal posts on this long standing weekly event isnt “stupid” on players part.

[abstract gate]

If you have a T9 Dvor without buying it you’ve been playing long enough to have a second on it’s way.

[abstract gate]

Oh wow, sheesh.

I don’t even know where to start with you on this.

[proven bluff]

And Scopley knows it. Hence the new $ystem for scoring points on Mining Monday

[abstract gate]

Your output is entirely determined by the tier of your Dvor.

[ivory shell]

Who the hell cares about lat? That's not the bottleneck

Mats are

[dim surge]

As mentioned glad some of you are happy or unimpacted by the changes today. There are significant numbers for whom the changes today kills the event for unless they buy a pack.

[abstract gate]

As the Dvor’s only use is it’s output, the higher it is the better it’s output.

[ivory shell]

I care about placing in events moreso

[abstract gate]

Which is done by parking miners on 2.4 million nodes days in advance.

Not by running three mediocre miners to slow nodes.

[ivory shell]

I have an ungodly amount of lat that I don't spend on anything because Scopely has kinked that hose good

[ornate geyser]

I always cleared the SMS mining mats anyway, so no change for me. Haven't bothered with the pointless SLB since 10 levels ago.

So literally nothing has changed for me.

[ivory shell]

I'm not level 39+

[abstract gate]

Which you can use faster, get more parts AND get more lat by having a T9 Dvor.

This isn’t complicated stuff.

[ivory shell]

I do hit up lucrative systems when I can

I already said, I don't care about lat

I have lat

more than I can use

[dim surge]

Glad you are happy harmonious but others have valid views also.

[zinc sun]

Thx Scopely

You suck

[abstract gate]

Then tier up your Dvor and get more parts out the Dvor refinery 🤣

[ivory shell]

Yeah, he's sitting there like "My way is the only way! I play this right!"

[viral forge]

Wth scopely, you have one group that needs to warp to lat and another the impulses, i spend 5 to 6 mins whereas they spend 30 secondsthat is nt fair gameplay, are you braindead.

[abstract gate]

No, my way isn’t the only way.

[ivory shell]

... it's cheaper to have 2 t8 than to have 1 t9 in parts

[abstract gate]

But your way is wrong.

[abstract gate]

But you still get less parts and lat out of the refinery.

[ivory shell]

Lol, way to prove me right!

[dim surge]

Well our way was working until goalposts were changed harmonious.

[brave crescent]

I got only feesha parts in the latinum rush event. i dont have one. i only can upgrade my dvor with rafinery.

[dim surge]

Your just lucky the changes worked in your favour

[abstract gate]

One T9 will refine more lat and parts than 6 T8s.

[ornate geyser]

I did the same thing, not anticipating a Dvor-A. That's my bad, really, because I should have seen it coming. Scopley repeats everything...so make sure you max your Vidar, lol.

[abstract gate]

Even before the changes, unless you were desperate to try and win an event you never win with lat, you weren’t winning with three middling D’Vors.

[ivory shell]

Once again, that's great, but the mechanics (UNLESS YOU REALLY REALLY WANT A TON OF LAT WHICH ISN'T AS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE STILL IN THE 30'S) benefitted multiple lesser d'vors before this change

[abstract gate]

They didn’t.

You forget.

[ivory shell]

Ok bud

[abstract gate]

I’ve been where you are.

[ivory shell]

whatever you say

you're the best at this game

you win

[abstract gate]

You can either tell people who spent ages where you are how wrong they are.

[ivory shell]

congrats on being the best

[abstract gate]

Or you can open your lugholes and listen before I get @pale wind in here to laugh

Oops

[ivory shell]

How long has it been since you've been in the mid-30's?

[dim surge]

Harmonious. Obviously you think we’re all playing game wrong but three t7 dvors were quite effective. 20 mins and event done ( if you didn’t have access to t4 mines)

[ivory shell]

Who cares about fizticuffs? who is that?

[abstract gate]

You wanna know how I know you’re doing it wrong?

[dim surge]

As mentioned it’s all about the packs. Pure and simple

[ivory shell]

Anyway, whatevs, this game is a cash grab. This whole change is about wanting people to buy the new d'vor, otherwise they wouldn't have changed the scoring on raw lat

[abstract gate]

I made the same damn mistake

One T8, one T7

They were both T7 when I was “educated”

I didn’t put up as much of a fight as you did in being educated, but… I learned.

[dim surge]

As mentioned. I’m glad you find the changes today ok for you. For most people the changes today suck. No further discussion necessary. We’ll agree to disagree.

This 👇

[ornate geyser]

I never used dvors for Monday events. Normal mining always cleared everything.

Also, I'm not Harmonious, although I am generally harmonious.

[abstract gate]

It is and it isn’t. For a load of us that got (I bought) the new ship, we want to use the new ship in the mining event.

[dim surge]

No issue in you wanting to use it. But those that didn’t purchase it or have t9 dvor should still be able to do Lat mining event with normal dvor also

[abstract gate]

Doing it this soon, well, see above. Some of us wanna use our new ship. But I do understand that doing it when the ship is a couple of weeks old when the only other incentive to max one D’vor instead of having three mediocre ones was the reward for having a T9 Dvor feels like you’re being harangued for a poor decision.

[dim surge]

End of debate. Pointless and I’m voting by not participating in event again until it’s sorted. Later✌️

[abstract gate]

They don’t care that you’re not getting rewards 😂

[odd orchid]

I would have liked to see two separate SLB... One giving dvor parts (points for lat) and another giving freesha parts (points for cLat)

[viscid sinew]

I don't need to max everything, be the most efficient in everything. I have one D'vor at T7 and it gave me about 500 lat daily and that was OK. D'vor parts were irrelevant for me. I spent my game time on other things and other ships.

Could I have maxed the d'vor? Sure. But why would I before the Feesha? It didn't give me anything in the game that I needed. What I need is more mats.

[abstract gate]

Neither SLB are won by people mining lat.

[abstract gate]

More lat is more lat.

[viscid sinew]

Yes, but lat never limited me

[abstract gate]

Come the G4 economy where buildings consume hundreds of K of G4 common

[abstract gate]

Lat will limit you at Ops39+, without even a hesitation.

Or a lack of ambition to progress.

[dim surge]

Would have preferred they kept existing event and added an extra event for people who bought the new dvor. Would’ve kept everyone happy than isolating a lot of people.

[lone leaf]

nono, when f2p leave, they can finally merge servers and have more whales around each other - which will lead to more competition yet again, meaning money in the bank, baby!

[abstract gate]

You said not do the event.

[viscid sinew]

Yes, for 40s, lat gets you common mats, and then lat will be more important. But I'm not there yet. I prioritise other things in the game

[dim surge]

Lol best of luck to em

[abstract gate]

If you’re flouncing and quitting the game over a handful of trash rewards from lat rush, you never liked it anyway 😂

[dim surge]

Again this 👇

End of debate. Peace out. Wish you best of luck with your great dvor lol

✌️

[abstract gate]

Tell me, if you’re getting 500 more lat every day for the next 3 months on your way to Ops 39/40, how much more lat will you have?

[abstract gate]

This. Game. Has. Never. Been. Free.

There is a mechanism to play without spending a penny.

You will not have the best toys.

[shell escarp]

They could have just added the feesha mechanic without changing the old mechanic for the event.

[abstract gate]

You have a game here that you can sink a massive amount of time into and as long as you don’t forget the fact that as a F2Per you have paid nothing you can have a great time with people with a shared interest, do some events, get some ships and not get bombarded with a ton of ads.

[viscid sinew]

45k, two parabellum worth or so... So?

[ripe jungle]

I don’t get it. The only way you’re “not prioritizing” upgrading the d’vor is if you’re not refining lat daily. Why would you not do that? It takes literally a few minutes of afk mining.

[abstract gate]

Just… I’m regretting trying to help.

Just give up, walk away, let the perpetual misery in here consume them.

[dim surge]

I have never posted in here.

[ripe jungle]

Huh?

[abstract gate]

I don’t entirely get removing the old stuff either, but I guess it boils down to what it pays out and the complexity of having two events measuring two different types of lat when neither are won by mining either kind of lat.

[dim surge]

Long standing weekly event should have been left as is and new event specific for new dvor would have been useful and achieved same objective/incentive to purchase pack for those inclined to make purchases. Or still providing points for normal dvor in a lat mining event.

[ivory shell]

You have to think of it like factory farming. The F2Pers, or Next to F2P like me (I buy BP and the occasional pack) are the chickens that the whales will feed on. But we're here of our own accord. If the conditions we "play" in get crappy enough, then we'll go elsewhere. Once the population of a game drops out, it'll die. Even if they combine servers so a bunch of whales are sitting around in an empty galaxy.

[abstract gate]

Yeah, won’t happen though.

[ivory shell]

Ok, like no game has ever died before

[viscid sinew]

So, priority for me is dailies, making sure I have enough stock of raw mats and iso 1/2/3, inert nanos, BP events and then other SMS events as time permits.

Only after that I will consider doing other "nice to have" tasks, but usually I would not bother

[abstract gate]

The number of people so upset about this change they felt the need to come here and complain is a grand total of about three or four.

[ivory shell]

I'm not just saying this change

[viscid sinew]

Because most players aren't even in here

[shell escarp]

2 events not needed, just add one more scoring mechanism to the current event

[dim surge]

Sorry harmonious. Glad you enjoy the game and the changes made today. Most on my server pretty unhappy about it. Just came on here in the vein hope scopely powers that be would take the feedback and make some adjustments to the scoring mechanism.

[abstract gate]

Because they don’t care enough about it to even pretend they will quit because of a stupid event that never gave good rewards anyway 🤣

[winged linden]

Points for mining CLAT are way too low

[ember walrus]

We're busy mining. Trying to finish an annoying event

[abstract gate]

But then are you paying out Dvor parts or Feesha parts?

[ember walrus]

Rewards are slightly better now

[ripe jungle]

But then why does this change even matter for you? You finish the sms with mining materials, and you’re not competing in the slb, so what does it change?

[abstract gate]

His desire to come here and complain about another event he says he won’t do, that he’ll complete by doing his daily mining anyway…

[dim surge]

Not having a normal dvor lat miner being able to score in a lat mining event is silly

[shell escarp]

Keeping feesha parts is fine. Most players try the events for other rewards, only top 3 get the parts anyway

[abstract gate]

Don’t disagree.

[bronze willow]

I used to put up 225-250m points for Lat Rush mining lat with dvors for 16 hours. If I put in the same amount of effort mining clat with Feeshas, I'll put up 70m points. And I can't go back to the old way, because I scrapped my main dvor, and they dropped lat points down to almost nothing.

Also, the brackets are awful. I'm a lvl 43 competing up to lvl 49. All a player in their mid-to-upper 40s has to do to beat me is throw a miner on a g5 node, or premine for a night on a big g4 node I can't even make it to. That beats 16 hours of effort.

#Scopleyd

[viscid sinew]

Oh, I will not quit over latinum rush... Silly event with poor rewards, always was.

What can make me quit is scopely failing to make the game fun. A game that I invest my time in, must give me something back. When it stops giving me back enough to justify my time spent, I will move on.

[abstract gate]

This arc / this ship was never going to introduce “fun”

It’s an extra 2k lat per day minimum for those of us who have hit the G4 wall.

[shell escarp]

True. It now takes 3-4 times what it did previously. Not everyone can spare that

The whole idea of playing a game is to have fun