It’s time based.
#🏆-event-chat
earnest hornet
abstract gate
It’s neither for a server that Scopely deem to be too broadly spread. It’s to halt whales for a while so that less spendy players can keep them relative company, as especially nowadays a few packs a week and you can hit 46 in a matter of a couple of months.
If you don’t have enough players Ops 39, there’s no ascension event.
What quantity / percentage / elapsed time triggers it is a closely guarded secret or an arbitrary decision. With Scopely either are possible, but it is a sensible thing to do.
vapid jolt
Has the event screw-up hate ended yet? Is it safe to return here without being faced by a shouty wall of CAPS?
viral yarrow
NO 😂😂
shrewd light
If you don’t have enough players Ops 39, there’s no ascension event.
Currently we have 9 ops 39 players and 6 ops 38 players. More players have pushed 36+ also with the amount of gain power events we have had
lime dirge
Or if you saw the rewards and then consequently spent billions in parsteel and then realized the new rewards contained no parsteel. Good times!
abstract gate
Currently we have 9 ops 39 players and 6 ops 38 players. More players have pushe...
If that is the majority/all of your 35+ players I’d say you’re a couple of months away.
We had 50+ 36-38 players when our 5ish 39 players were given ascension.
shrewd light
We are quite low populated server so that could be alot longer then 🙈
snow dome
Is the ring in the new year event bust, i was sure i completed the three events but one short. I did read up btw
uneven peak
Theres only been two events so far
snow dome
Ok i see now.
versed jackal
We are quite low populated server so that could be alot longer then 🙈
Scopely isn't as consistant as before on it. I think we had 1-3 ops 39 (I think it was just one guy at that time, but I don't fully recall) and even a hand full only at ops35 and there was an ascension event a while back. So it's anyones guess I think😅
shrewd light
Scopely isn't as consistant as before on it. I think we had 1-3 ops 39 (I think ...
Great so we wait on scopley who can't even get an event right 🤣
versed jackal
Great so we wait on scopley who can't even get an event right 🤣
Yeah just assume your server to be screwed for life, then it might turn out better then expected 🤣 . For us it's waiting on a servermerge, territory space has never been truely filled even. It is funny to see a ca. 10man alliance holding a 3star territory though.
shrewd light
Yeah just assume your server to be screwed for life, then it might turn out bett...
Same on our server we still have alot of free space. I'm waiting for the announcement of a server merge for us
This is ours
south arrow
And utter crap for last NYE event congrats on making me hate this game
icy stirrup
Hi All. Could someone please get a hold of the dev team as thetrs an error on today's event....Its 45 Billion steel short....Or do we get that in the compensation chest ?... #askingforafriend #asking for everyone
weary crest
And what exactly do we do with these gold stars?
viscid verge
They go to the other part of the event on the left that gives you a frame, burnham shards and ultra recruit tokens
foggy night
10 times lower rewards in New event . Ty scopley
weary crest
They go to the other part of the event on the left that gives you a frame, burnh...
facepalm duh. Here I was thinking that maybe we'd get some store or bonus or something.
viscid verge
right, thats what i first thought but alas not
south arrow
We got the middle finger as a gift sweet 😡
waxen galleon
Having a difficult time with which event I would have rather had, the one they removed or the pile of 💩 they gave me today.
icy stirrup
Having a difficult time with which event I would have rather had, the one they r...
Definatly the 2nd one
tender bay
Please fix the scoring for worm event. It makes no sense to kill worms as they are much more powerful than normal hostile, so doing a few 49 traders is quicker and cheaper than grinding worms with a 2x multiplier. Makes no sense.
eager kiln
Please fix the scoring for worm event. It makes no sense to kill worms as they a...
"we can't edit events once they started" ...ohhhh wait
ornate geyser
Please fix the scoring for worm event. It makes no sense to kill worms as they a...
Dude. Shut up, lol. I cleared the event with one capitol trader, why in the name of all that is unholy would you want that to change?!
wild portal
I’ve played this game on and off since it was released and this is the biggest disappointment so far. You should’ve just left the rewards the way they were. Or at the very least made todays rewards similar to what the ones you pulled were. Bad Scopely bad!
versed jackal
This is ours
Looks equally empty as ours. Who knows, maybe Scopely could merge our servers and we would still have enough space for all alliances 😆
ornate geyser
We only had 66 participating on the just completed SLB in the 39 band...it just gets emptier and emptier.
sharp matrix
red trellis
@versed jackal yeah we only have 8 strong alliances and one small one support by 3 strong allies to have territory. There isn t any other alliances in sight to do it
drifting bay
Please let scopley know that they are a joke. The New Years events are outrageously underscored and an equivalent of someone spitting you in the face.
Sorry but this is how I feel 😒
faint fractal
No cosmic tonight?
abstract gate
No cosmic tonight?
Nope, we’re out of battle pass
faint fractal
Nope, we’re out of battle pass
Thanks
wary blaze
Yeah these events have been pretty piss poor. End of the year shitty, start the year shitty. Why not own up to your mistakes Scopely.
pulsar radish
Apparently you need to submit to slb at least one min before end cos scopeley can’t handle late in event submissions - genius on a competitive event
No response from support after this? Shame I don’t have any client logs so guess I just have to accept - sucks though after such a well thought out end of year event
All submitted before cut off and by at least 30 seconds
eager kiln
sometimes it takes half hour
viscid verge
Okay, will give it some time and a restart and see what happens
eager kiln
on sundays when the events starts the whole server is lagging, and the swarm event takes insane amount of time to score
somber flame
Man Scopleys end of year events summed up = trash. Big let down, but what should I had excepted.
neat frost
Do we know if this week is new battle pass or if they're taking another off week?
hardy parcel
Do we know if this week is new battle pass or if they're taking another off week...
Rumour has it that the next pass starts on the 11th
boreal plaza
I’m guessing (cause Scopely’s don’t like mixing things up), CoW, followed by Apex, then Faction Hunt and then new arc for 11th.
cunning radish
actually the borg mini event between arcs has interrupted cow/apex/fh once or twice in the past 4 months or so now IIRC
desert laurel
seems like a lot of time for just cow, apex, and fh. I'm going with borg in this interim set also
earnest hornet
seems like a lot of time for just cow, apex, and fh. I'm going with borg in this...
What do you mean a lot of time?? The time the New Years event finishes is the same that an arc would finish anyway, so the normal inter-arc events would normally fill the same time anyway.
With new arc prediction being the 11th, same as last January
desert laurel
mostly because 3 day faction hunts seem to be rarer these days, so 3 day cow, apex, and there are 3 days left
earnest hornet
mostly because 3 day faction hunts seem to be rarer these days, so 3 day cow, ap...
3 days left of what?? Arc won’t be this week, likely be till next week so that’s the normal time frame for between arc events.
desert laurel
right, we're going with the assumption that it starts on the 11th
earnest hornet
Well it hasn’t started 2 days after new year before, there’s been an extra week after previously
They will still be on holiday
elder comet
Rumour has it that the next pass starts on the 11th
Yup possible or it's 4th. Or they do CoW/FH + Apex on 4th and new Arc 11th. Maybe they swap it and run events like CoW and Apex at the end of month now. But we will see. Just can hope for another 3 para bellum haha
abstract gate
Oh shit i forgot i had that event
ionic wren
3 days left of what?? Arc won’t be this week, likely be till next week so that’s...
Hoping "normal" mean Cow, Fh, apex, and not Borg armada etc etc.lol
viscid helm
Well, an arc usually has a duration of 21 days, with 1 or 2 weeks between arcs. If they were to start on the 11th the arc would end Feb 1st, next to start Feb 8th ish to go into March, so they would mess up twice, thus technically they should start on Tuesday
boreal plaza
I was hoping for a ship blueprint, refits etc. event. I just don’t think Scopely’s can be bothered to pull that off during their Aspen, Mediterranean, Monte Carlo (or such) holiday
earnest hornet
Well, an arc usually has a duration of 21 days, with 1 or 2 weeks between arcs. ...
Actually 20 days, and starting on the 11th would mean a finish on the 30th,
Last January started 12th and finished on the 31st,
waxen gyro
So much hearsay when in fact you all have no clue
boreal plaza
I’m still going with more of the same
earnest hornet
So much hearsay when in fact you all have no clue
Hearsay on what??
Based on historical precedent, and knowledge of how they normally run the arcs.
And also how do you know that I don’t actually know 😂😂😂 🤫🤭🤭🤭
scenic cloud
Will tinga cloak be in next arc?
earnest hornet
🤷♂️
inland hamlet
You do realise king day is 6th Jan also holiday so won't have arc till 2nd Tuesday in month as normal.
All arcs start on Tuesdays. So easy to guess the date of arc start. Feb is usually quick turnaround.
Then March is usually when have the 2 week break all depends on how days fall
proven bluff
Anyone else wondering if the Devs think that ghosting for days will make us forget the bait and switch on the NYE event?
inland hamlet
Anyone else wondering if the Devs think that ghosting for days will make us for...
It's called weekend after holidays, about to go into more holidays.. Pretty normal january
proven bluff
It's called weekend after holidays, about to go into more holidays.. Pretty norm...
Then how was it possible for someone to be working long enough to pull the event and then put it back up with inferior rewards?
I guess there’s no vacation at Scopley when it comes to screwing customers
earnest hornet
Obviously they have people on shift, but it’s holidays reduced work load
inland hamlet
Then how was it possible for someone to be working long enough to pull the event...
Never heard of on call services.
You know much like people sleep but if there's a problem just call me?
proven bluff
Never heard of on call services.
You know much like people sleep but if there's ...
Thank you for making my point.
It was an emergency to execute the bait and switch
But customer relations, meh. Who needs it
uneven peak
Yes. That's the same for every company
When customer service closes and the phone lines shut down, IT are still there to fix any emergencies
There will generally be a skeleton staff during major holidays to deal with anything that comes up, but everything else is basically shut down.
earnest hornet
Exactly
inland hamlet
Thank you for making my point.
Maybe if you weren't sat in game 24/7 you might be able to think straight, grab some sleep, put up a shields grab some sleep.
It's OK sure someone will call you?
uneven peak
Who's sucking up?
inland hamlet
Lol ever wondered what they are doing after they set a 3 day slb. Probably off on holiday
proven bluff
It’s funny how you are acting like downgrading event awards was a crisis bordering on a cascading server crash
Which is something Scopley has taken it’s sweet time responding to
inland hamlet
Free stuff v lots of free stuff is still free stuff
uneven peak
There's plenty to criticise Scopley for. Their staff being on holiday over Christmas is not one of them.
NYE events were a catastrophe. No one disagreed with that.
inland hamlet
Everyone is entitled by law to have holidays respect that, same as every player is entitled to log on or off as they choose
Nye was just a copy paste gone wrong. Is all. Was never intended giving 50+ rewards to everyone
serene forum
no official apologies from the mess they made?
hardy parcel
no official apologies from the mess they made?
Are you new here? 🤣🤣🤣
serene forum
no really,just checking, been new year and stuff
hardy parcel
abstract gate
What do you want?
“Sorry those of you on the ball got hundreds of ore and billions of parsteel”?
hardy parcel
I want the egregious exploiters enthusiastically expelled!
thick robin
Yay more trash events today
abstract gate
Speak for yourself, I got faction hunt 😍
abstract gate
Proper faction hunt
Legit, full rewards faction hunt.
Three days ALB, with single day SMS.
😍
Thanks Scopely!
abstract gate
You and I have different definitions of trash.
hardy parcel
Awesome!
Thanks scopely.
abstract gate
Nearly 6 ultra recruit pulls per day, a buckload of faction credits.
Most of 100 uncommons per day.
hardy parcel
Yup thats a good few more ship bp and officer pulls
abstract gate
Proof indeed that some people will never be happy, even when all they gotta do is make 9 kills per day 😂
hardy parcel
Well for me it's closer to 300 but still not complaining 🤣
thick robin
Proof indeed that some people will never be happy, even when all they gotta do i...
9 kills? If i hit 49s its over 60 per faction
abstract gate
What ops?
thick robin
46
serene forum
What do you want?
no, i want the same amount of rss that some players got before they pulled out the event.
glossy fog
how would FH ever be possible with 9 kills per day
vital drum
70 ships per faction = 210 ships. Plus swarm. Plus anomalous phenomena.
waxen gyro
And also how do you know that I don’t actually know 😂😂😂 🤫🤭🤭🤭
You don’t. Period. And using fancy words to sound smart doesn’t make you right. It’s just millennial rhetoric
thick robin
how would FH ever be possible with 9 kills per day
Its not
Typically most folks take about 100 kills or so
Per faction
glossy fog
Typically most folks take about 100 kills or so
this is what i was thinking! annoyingly scopely decided to not use their FH mechanic tested during xmas event which scaled better than a max 45 points if i could kill a lvl 50 hostile!
thick robin
Since the end of the arc ive been more and more inclined each day to just log off after i see the events. Its getting ridiculous
Scopely: your main source of income for mats isnt refinery, its events
Also scopely: heres an event thatll take hours and pays less than refinery
abstract gate
Your refinery pays more than that?
Jeez, I know it improves with Ops but my refinery at 41 might pay that on a good day.
thick robin
Its like 80 unc lol.... thats averaging 40 unc per pull on each of your pulls for the day
abstract gate
40 per pull id be well happy with
thick robin
Well congrates.... now go kill your 300 hostiles
hardy parcel
Not to mention the exp and rep from 300 hostiles.
It's not like killing more than usual tbh
hardy parcel
I mean if you kill less than 500 do you even play?
thick robin
Those 500 are 500 targeted hostiles for an end goal.... this is 200 that are opposite of that 500
latent ridge
Yeah, I’m not enjoying killing my rep. The other option is to tier ships but you need to save mats for leaderboards
thick robin
Granted it would be nearly as bad if it were "fed event: kill rom or klingon" .... but its not, you have to kill 100 each
hardy parcel
So don't do them then it's always a balance
thick robin
I probably wont tbh, trash event with trash rewards
latent ridge
But the xp, faction credits, and ultra tokens are greatly needed
I’m just going to end up having to grind extra today, but oh wait I’m capped at 1500 a day…
thick robin
^^
silver minnow
Are they not running cosmic cleanup this week?
latent ridge
Are they not running cosmic cleanup this week?
Only during arcs
tranquil seal
Have any body noticed that the faction hunt points are increased by 100 points, or is it only on our server. Its from lvl 30 to 40
desert laurel
what are your reqs? 39s on my server need 1090 for the last MSs
abstract gate
1220 for 41.
Also, Gratz on promotion @desert laurel
Well, I say Gratz.
And promotion.
Not sure it’s either 😂
hardy parcel
@desert laurel Comiserations on your incarceration?
Or congratulations!
You chose 🤣
desert laurel
thank you!
lost shell
Granted it would be nearly as bad if it were "fed event: kill rom or klingon" .....
Yeah I hate the hostile part of faction hunt. I save all my ship tiering for 26s and 28s/32s that I get from drops for faction hunt, lol
low cargo
Credit where it’s due Scopely so thank you for this belated Faction Hunt (I’ve been a good boy and locked all 3 of my main factions) but please may I have some more (at the appropriate juncture in the fullness of time 😁) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🖖🏼
vestal light
Will next battlepass start in 2 days?
keen ledge
Will next battlepass start in 2 days?
Based on the past few Januaries, no. It would be 1/11.
vestal light
So, another week of boredom
chrome quest
So COW starts Wednesday?
hardy parcel
Apex please 🙏
elder comet
Apex please 🙏
Don't put up any expectations only outcome will be disappointment 😂
We gonna get CoW and no Apex besides it.
eager kiln
people complainign about faction hunt like it's a bad event or something...rewards are great
untold pendant
Are there multiple days of this hostile grinding? It's kind of a lot, though the rewards are good
eager kiln
3 days
each day new event but the alb is running for 3
and 40-45 hostile is not that much
cunning radish
I love they people complained new years was boring
Then complain about events that need them to do something
🤣🤣🤣
eager kiln
yes...also this one actually has decent rewards
at least for a f2p as i am i like these rewards
for a half hour grind i get enough officer xp to finish every gain power event this month 🤷♂️
elder comet
and 40-45 hostile is not that much
40-50 hah good one. Rather 80-100 per faction 😂
untold pendant
I'm not at a level yet where the grinding is that fast
eager kiln
idk, ops 37 with maxed sally, wouldn't say i am struggling
wintry tundra
Use multiple ships. Ops 39 and each faction was done in around 12 minutes.
abstract gate
Nothing wrong with a good ol Faction Hunt. Its always had the best rewards... peeps just got lazy
untold pendant
Do you have multiple ships of similar power at those high ops levels? I think my second strongest ship is only half as strong as my first
eager kiln
at the moment i only have the sally
once i reach 39 i get my epic ship
i finished each faction in a single run, i don't have any prime research or other stuff
hardy parcel
Don't put up any expectations only outcome will be disappointment 😂
We gonna ge...
Yeah yeah, I know. 🤣
Still doesn't hurt to ask RNGesus tho 🤣🤣
abstract gate
Really? 👀
Tomorrow I’ll be on it for a while, but the SMS I had done in three hours including playing TF2, putting my kid to bed and building Lego.
uneven peak
Even if all of those options were in place it wouldn't change the ships or crews I use. PMC gets me through considerably more, and higher level, hostiles than using a different captain would do with bonus points.
Take the recent doomsday worm NYE event. Double points for killing worms, but I could go to Ty'Goker and finish the event faster, and with more available hostiles than killing lower level worms while competing with dozens of others would.
Give us options, but at least have them mean something
Or make us want to try something new
I think you're right in saying having more options than PMC would be more interesting, but they need to be done in a way to make us want to use something other than PMC. If that can be worked out, and balanced properly, it'd be great.
wintry tundra
Do you have multiple ships of similar power at those high ops levels? I think my...
I have a 3.4M Augur, a2.4M Ent and a 1.8M Sally. PMC is on Ent, PBT on Augur and Harrison + Anti faction + right trinity on Sally. If you 2nd ship is not that strong drop a lvl or 2 for the hostiles. You loose points per hostile but usually do twice as much in the same time so you are faster.
desert laurel
While PMC is a good option for harder hostiles, FH pt earning doesn't scale well with increased hostile difficulty, and it might be better to use multiple ships in order to earn at a faster pace than to use one very sturdy ship.
ripe jungle
They already do the random captains thing when they introduce new officers. It’s terrible, none of those captains make any sense for hostile grinding, and you’re better off ignoring the points multiplier and going with pmc
sudden depot
I use 5 ships in one system with level 38-40 hostiles. Take me 10mins a faction
amber wave
Use multiple ships. Ops 39 and each faction was done in around 12 minutes.
What crews?
wintry tundra
What crews?
See above. Basically PMC, PBT and using Harrison on the sally.
amber wave
See above. Basically PMC, PBT and using Harrison on the sally.
Oops my bad thanks
wintry tundra
Oops my bad thanks
NP. On Stella I use pure cadets as third option. If you can kill the hostile pretty fast Old Mudd might be an option (don’t have him yet).
tepid lichen
what is this?
lapis harbor
Where do I find these ship skin shard trackers?
desert laurel
they were a reward many months ago from events and from the shop, there are no sources atm
meager galleon
tidal storm
I don’t have these 3
tepid lichen
is there a certain ops requirement for that?
ornate geyser
While PMC is a good option for harder hostiles, FH pt earning doesn't scale well...
The rewards need to be a hell of a lot better for me to consider putting in that much work for an event...
cosmic ridge
No one on my server has this coming up?
ornate geyser
Nor on mine.
tidal storm
Ho hum..😒
desert laurel
They were an event reward/cash shop item from months ago, and most probably don't have any trackers so today's gift exchange would not show for them.
#💭-suggestions message
has a picture of what they look like, and some basic info on trackers
wintry roost
If they talking clean up shop…. Get me something to trade in surplus jelly blueprints or any other bp’s fro that matter
tidal storm
Maybe the promised Market will be coming soon
desert laurel
If you have skin tracker shards now, you can exchange them for one of the g3 skins offered or hold onto them for future value. I understand frustration, but please edit your message to conform to the language rules of the server.
upbeat kestrel
If you have skin tracker shards now, you can exchange them for one of the g3 ski...
Oh wow, when did you get bumped up to mod 👀👀👀
desert laurel
Just a couple days now.
upbeat kestrel
Well, I dunno to say congrats, or my condolences
desert laurel
Today's action should be considered a step toward providing the value you've worked hard for, but not the final step.
abstract gate
#returntheburn
bronze bloom
If you have skin tracker shards now, you can exchange them for one of the g3 ski...
Do you know the difference of working hard and good? No, scopley doesn’t know it too
static wigeon
I'll probably regret not having them towards the new skins when they're released but for now I'm happy to finally get the TOS Enterprise
abstract gate
So is there maintenance tomorrow 🤔 or
11th
hardy parcel
Yup we usually get 24 hours notice so probably next week now
quiet harness
So is there maintenance tomorrow 🤔 or
would have had announcement by now if it was.
FH is for 2 more days.
suggesting that arc will start on 11th
uneven peak
Plus faction hunt is running past the time an arc would start
And Vengeance beat me to it 😂
hardy parcel
Yeah it's pretty much as certain as we can ever be
I mean it's scopely though, so anything can happen 🤣🤣
quiet harness
I mean it's scopely though, so anything can happen 🤣🤣
another bugged bonus refinery hopefully.
Didn't get to exploit that one last time
twilit kestrel
So prehapes a apex event 🤔 then 🐄 cow after maybe
hallow ember
The borg event sometimes shows up now too in the gap. We had no Apex 2 runs ago.
uneven peak
It's usually Faction Hunt, then CoW then apex
twilit kestrel
But not for certain right
uneven peak
We don't know for certain, but that's the usual run
twilit kestrel
OK thx sweetheart @uneven peak good night 😴
spark turtle
Where is this skin converter?
earnest hornet
Gifts section,
It only is if you have any of the Old Ship Skin Shard Trackers, if you don’t see it, nothing to worry about. Means you just don’t have anything to convert
@spark turtle
tawny marsh
Best lesson learned from the skin event is dont participate in skin events
keen mist
Or, if you're going to participate, make sure you win.
lilac musk
Today's action should be considered a step toward providing the value you've wor...
While ordinarily I would agree it's really not accurate. The skin tracker shards had value because they were the first currency used to get the skins. They were devalued with the release of the new currency implementation. If this conversion was put in place the same day the new currency was implemented and not 6+ months after there would have been equivalent value. I'm unsure why Scopely thinks the value of those tracker shards 6+ months later is somehow equivalent to what they were then they were released because people by now would have given up waiting for Scopely to do this simple exchange and bought the skins either from the last arc event store or from the actual store when they started selling them
dapper drum
wait people actually spend money on skins 
bronze bloom
Oh yes, boooooooooring apex and cow will come🤢🤢🤢
eager kiln
at least the rewards are good and half my alliance still needs a few shards for the skin
tawny marsh
The skin shard tracker issue shows how much disrespsct scopely has for the customers.
Thats ok. I hope they keep it up. People correct in extremes not subtlety. When they release something similar in he future im sure that people will ignore it.
abstract gate
The skin shard tracker issue shows how much disrespsct scopely has for the custo...
What, you didn’t unlock something, they eventually come up with a very reasonable level of exchange and while it shouldn’t have taken as long as it did, because you never actually got enough to unlock anything they’re being disrespectful?
I’ve got a massive pile of stuff that never completely unlocked, so much disrespect to me that they only gave stuff to people who completely unlocked it.
tawny marsh
Seems you don't understand. Let's put it in perspective.
You pay or participate in an even at ops 15 for your baby jelly, you come in second place and receive 99 out of 100 shards.
The next time shards come around are 1 year later. When your ops 35, when the content is completely irrelevant.
Thats what happened.
abstract gate
Well… that’s kinda how stuff goes here.
I haven’t unlocked Three.
By the time I probably do, my research and miner increases will have made such a dent in that that she’ll be largely superficial in her benefit.
You didn’t win, so you didn’t get.
For the record…
Still don’t have baby jelly either.
hardy parcel
true. by the time you get something for free it's usually irrelevant
abstract gate
It’s not disrespect, it’s called “not winning”.
earnest hornet
true. by the time you get something for free it's usually irrelevant
sometimes, depends what it is really
skins have always been an "extra" may be nice to have, but not necessary for gameplay.
hardy parcel
sometimes, depends what it is really
well. if you miss the initial events that tends to be the case. which is what we are talking about here.
earnest hornet
yup for sure 🙂
tawny marsh
Hmm. Im not sure what society you guys are from but from mine thats called being ripped off and conned.
hardy parcel
obviously the special g3 ships are an exception vidar etc.
marsh condor
i found the noise makers
hardy parcel
i found the noise makers
oh crap 😂
tawny marsh
It just seems we come from diffrent cultures.
abstract gate
But it doesn’t make it disrespectful. What would be disrespectful is having someone win an event then giving the people that didn’t the same benefit.
Try harder, spend more, win. Or accept that coming second sometimes mean you never unlock content before it becomes largely irrelevant. Which also means it probably wasn’t that big a deal in the first place.
tawny marsh
Your boss doesn't give you full paycheck until 6 months later after you work? That's disrespectful. Your wife doesn't come home for a week. Same.
earnest hornet
not really you got the prize that was on offer at the time, how is that being conned,
abstract gate
Yeah? And if I don’t win something, not getting the first place trophy is what happens.
That’s not disrespectful. No game issues useful participation trophies.
tawny marsh
Im not saying I don't understand your culture, im just saying in mine. Thats called being ripped off.
abstract gate
And what culture is that?
earnest hornet
in any culture, it showed what the rewards were for each prize, you got the rewards that were offered for the prize you won
abstract gate
Because working for a multinational and travelling for that, I’m fairly familiar with a few 🤣
And equivalencing it with your wife leaving you? That’s just really sad.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate one where someone can offer you 9/10ths of a service and disappear and people are content with it.
abstract gate
You. Did. Not. Win.
tawny marsh
Id love to sell products and services where you guys are from
abstract gate
By not winning, you didn’t get the rights to that service.
You can’t even sell this story so lord knows how you’d plan to do that.
tawny marsh
Of course. Of course. I understand.
abstract gate
If you do not win something, you do not have it.
earnest hornet
no know thats different, paying for a service that you were guaranteed a final result, and not getting it thats being conned,
Not a competition, where you knew the results of each prize, and you got what you won
tawny marsh
Dude I get it. No need to convince me.
Thats why there was no 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place
Where you guys are from down-payments don't exist?
Maybe that explains it.
earnest hornet
love how you always seem to assume things about everyone else
we dont live in some 3rd or 4th world country here
abstract gate
Get second place in two events, get unlock.
tawny marsh
Actually, it sounds like you guys live in a Eutopia
abstract gate
Come near as makes no difference last, don’t get enough to unlock… sucks to be you but that’s what happens when you don’t score high enough.
tawny marsh
I could only imagine you guys belive the other events should work the same way correct? Only first place ever gets the ability to complete it?
earnest hornet
no i never said that, i just understand that this was the prize shown, i got what i got for the effort i put in
tawny marsh
You mean you competed knowing you would never finish it?
earnest hornet
did i have some left over yes, do i sit here and complain about it no
abstract gate
tawny marsh
Thats why i say I would love to do business where you guys are from, where I'm from, anyone that pulled that stunt would lose a leg
earnest hornet
i just accepted the fact that they may never come back, glad they did, and looks like they might be doing something about it this year, i just carried on with my life and my game
abstract gate
Scopely scammed me out of Picard, Sela, Lorca, Jaylah, TOS Spock, Geordie and Three!
tawny marsh
Very understanding cultures
abstract gate
Or I just didn’t do well enough in the events.
earnest hornet
Thats why i say I would love to do business where you guys are from, where I'm f...
no theres a difference, if someone PAID for a service or a product and you didnt get it thats understandable.
The fact it was a competition and your prize depended on where you ranked, thats different
abstract gate
Very understanding cultures
You don’t own Scopely. You didn’t “buy” the skin, you entered a series of competitions where you eventually did not win enough to get an unlock.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate you mean officers stop being relevant?
abstract gate
<@456226577798135808> you mean officers stop being relevant?
To an extent, yes.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate name one please
abstract gate
Lat research came out and the tribble is mainly an ornament.
Gets sent on away missions for that health bonus.
earnest hornet
lol yea i use the tribble on atas now 😄
hardy parcel
you enter a competition to win a car and lose.
it's disrespectful if they don't keep running the competition until you win?
entitled much?
earnest hornet
Lat research came out and the tribble is mainly an ornament.
P.S. he doesnt like mining 😄 hahahahaha
abstract gate
Snowflake.
earnest hornet
you enter a competition to win a car and lose.
it's disrespectful if they don't...
i think to him if second prize was the wheels, he should have the chance to get the rest of the car, with enough competitions
😄
tawny marsh
Honestly, I get why scopely makes so much money now.
abstract gate
Because people actually commit to winning something rather than doing the bare minimum and saying “but I should be given the rest!”
earnest hornet
actually sounds like what they teach in schools now by saying participate and your all a winner, theres no winners or losers, all get the prize.
well tell that to the olympians on the podium where the 4th place gets the gold also
tawny marsh
Btw, that was after google agreed.
abstract gate
Google will say anything.
tawny marsh
Yes. Maybe so. But I got a refund
abstract gate
Their barely trained monkeys are no better than any others 🤣
abstract gate
No offence to any barely trained monkeys. I know you’re better than Google customer service.
earnest hornet
Btw, that was after google agreed.
but you didnt purchase it, you entered a competition where that prize was a full unlock, the rest was partial unlocks, and they had always had the intentions (this is what they had said) of figuring a way to bring them back so people could use them, which i had done the last time they re-issued some)
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet which they did not.
abstract gate
No, what you got was a skim of the money that Google make from running the Play Store set aside to make whiners go away when they think they’ve been had.
earnest hornet
<@256699905605763077> which they did not.
did not what??
tawny marsh
In the EU and the US what scopely did is against consumer protection laws
earnest hornet
they did, and they have just done so again
abstract gate
In the EU and the US what scopely did is against consumer protection laws
Prove it.
tawny marsh
I did, thats how I got my refund
abstract gate
Some Google numbskull parroting platitudes and issuing a token payment from their war fund isn’t proof.
Some of us actually have a reasonable level of engagement with the services you’re talking about, and understand what happened.
tawny marsh
Maybe so. Still speaks louder then what your saying
hardy parcel
you're*
abstract gate
You got a token payment dressed up as a refund to keep you a happy Google play customer.
earnest hornet
but what they said wasn't true, the people that had the 'content' was able to use it, you had partial, which they had yet, brought back for people who had partials to finally finish
abstract gate
👆🏻
tawny marsh
@hardy parcel you realize people that did that in middle school were the laughing stock of the class
earnest hornet
so its not true that the "use of purchased content wasnt able to be used" or removed
abstract gate
So much entitlement.
abstract gate
so its not true that the "use of purchased content wasnt able to be used" or rem...
Exactly this. What you did was just publish that you defrauded Google
tawny marsh
Grown men using spellcheck to try to impress isnt impressive
earnest hornet
what??
abstract gate
The “purchased content” was G3/G4 mats that you used for stuff you spent on buildings/ships/research, which you did to enter an event.
tawny marsh
I was responding to the ABC warrior
abstract gate
You got exactly what you paid for.
What you didn’t get was the top prize from the event because didn’t or couldn’t spend enough to win.
hardy parcel
I was responding to the ABC warrior
Grammar police thank you very much 😂
tawny marsh
No, that implies you have authority which you don't.
abstract gate
No, that implies you have authority which you don't.
More authority than a criminal.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate I really want to know your consumer markets.
bitter snow
Yes. Maybe so. But I got a refund
I saw that ticket you raised... you didn't exactly paint the situation in a neutral light 😂
abstract gate
Grammar police thank you very much 😂
Should be a comma after police
earnest hornet
I saw that ticket you raised... you didn't exactly paint the situation in a neut...
hahaha exactly
abstract gate
But it’s OK; it’s “big Tech”, it’s only a few bucks to them but it’s a big deal to him and a proven point about how you should be given everything for participating.
tawny marsh
I feel there is a huge market for half eaten sandwiches and incomplete clothes.
earnest hornet
they will give you a refund to get you of their back, then normally that only happens once, and they stop you from getting more refunds for the same application, because you know, why keep using something and get refuinds for something you don't like
abstract gate
Should it have taken Scopely a year to give some kind of opportunity to trade them for partial unlocks/skin shards? No. Because the only option for people then was to buy full unlocks at cash price.
abstract gate
I feel there is a huge market for half eaten sandwiches and incomplete clothes.
There is, go to Poundland
But it took what it took, and you weren’t screwed, it wasn’t disrespect, it was just that you didn’t win an unlock so you didn’t get an unlock.
hardy parcel
Should be a comma after police
tawny marsh
Well from your culture it doesn't mean that. From mine it does.
hardy parcel
I'm genuinely intrigued now, what is your "culture"?
abstract gate
When you’re the only one in the room arguing a perspective and the best evidence you’ve got is a heavily misled conversation with a Google front line support person who is literally paid for how happy you come out of the conversation, perhaps you are on the wrong side of this argument?
tawny marsh
Honestly, I am glad to see there are customers like you in this market
abstract gate
The default argument of anyone who wants to hide their illegal activity. Blame cultural differences.
abstract gate
Honestly, I am glad to see there are customers like you in this market
Honest ones, who know when they lost a competition?
tawny marsh
@abstract gate gullible ones that are easy-to-use
abstract gate
Fumbled on a beach in Dubai? Cultural differences.
earnest hornet
<@456226577798135808> gullible ones that are easy-to-use
no we just know what we enter.
abstract gate
Drunk at 14? Cultural differences.
tawny marsh
I mean there a people are ok with everything.
earnest hornet
https://tenor.com/view/karen-ok-smiles-gif-19664690
actually where i work i am the manager and i would tell him where to go if i had someone come in with a silly complaint like that 😄
bitter snow
Absolutely... but that's the approach... "I don't like this perfectly reasonable outcome... gimme compo"
tawny marsh
Not like people were upset about officer sourcing for months right?
abstract gate
Not like people were upset about officer sourcing for months right?
Yes but we didn’t defraud Google as a result
earnest hornet
no but thats a different subject all together
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet no its the same context
abstract gate
And certainly didn’t openly admit it with screenshots while pretending it was an agreement that Scopely were in the wrong 🤣
earnest hornet
trying to bring in other arguments that have nothing to do with your original arguement doesnt give your original argument any more legitimacy
abstract gate
And as everyone including the content creators said.
Even if officer sourcing takes months to catch up, you’re a load closer to an unlock.
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet wrong.
- Both are auctions
- Both have multiple level awards
- Both have implied return dates
But I don't see you calling dj out for agreeing sourcing was a real issue
Or maybe these are your real feelings about him?
That he's a snowflake
earnest hornet
with all these matters they have said they are looking at different ways to approach the ways of how to utilise things in the game,
Some of the things they have trialled out, and didnt work as well as they hoped, and so didn't make the comback, and so they had to work on ways to be able to utilise what people already had.
who's a snowflake???
tawny marsh
I see excuses made for bad behavior. Im not sure why you both defend the con artists
earnest hornet
DJ is NOT a snowflake
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet thats what your implying
earnest hornet
<@256699905605763077> thats what your implying
how am i implying that??
bitter snow
reading comprehension not your strong suit then
earnest hornet
Because I agree with what he's said
with what???
bitter snow
The problem of ongoing sourcing of "stuff" is an issue, yes
earnest hornet
officer sourcing??? i never said i didnt agree that officer sourcing has been bad and needed updating
bitter snow
The "problem" of "I only got a partial unlock, waaah" is not an ongoing issue 😂
viral whale
who's a snowflake???
i like Snowflakes
abstract gate
☃️
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet reread what you've written and what you're agreeing with.
Change 1 word skin for officer
bitter snow
A consumer protection issue, at least in the UK, would be "I paid for a defined product/service, and it was not provided"
You paid for a leg up in something that was effectively a lottery/ competition, and didn't win the whole thing
That's the difference
earnest hornet
huh???You're the one complaining and "Lying" to google that you paid for something and didnt get.
bitter snow
If you paid for something that was literally "£100 for a full unlock" and only got half... that's an issue
You paid for a boost in a competition, and didn't win it
That's on you
tawny marsh
@bitter snow its called deceptive marketing and yes, in the EU EA got sued for doing unsavory things such as this
earnest hornet
its a similar thing yes that the different Competition events are ranked, cos yes in a way, are you now saying that cos you didnt get a full unlock of an officer cos you didnt rank #1 you should get a refund now too???
bitter snow
<@635902169874169876> its called deceptive marketing and yes, in the EU EA got s...
Tell me what is deceptive about any of their SLB events?
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet if that officer is never offered again. Absuletly
abstract gate
<@635902169874169876> its called deceptive marketing and yes, in the EU EA got s...
They didn’t, not for this.
earnest hornet
but who has said an officer is never going to be offered again,
abstract gate
Again I feel like misrepresentation is your forte.
earnest hornet
they have offered pretty much all the other officers again,
abstract gate
they have offered pretty much all the other officers again,
Harrison 😂
earnest hornet
hecek even Swarm Jaylah has been offered and available,
abstract gate
Cashpackplease
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet show me where the event in the last year or a repeat auction where the g3 skins were offered again?
bitter snow
The fact that it took a year to provide a way to use those trackers, or two years for Jaylah, or whatever other options, is a pain... but I don't remember anyone saying "Hold onto this one time event currency, it'll be back soon" - quite the opposite
earnest hornet
Cashpackplease
yea but that doesnt mean that they haven't been offered, it has been available, harrison has been i'm certain at least once in a cash pack
abstract gate
<@256699905605763077> show me where the event in the last year or a repeat aucti...
So now you’re introducing an arbitrary time limit?
abstract gate
yea but that doesnt mean that they haven't been offered, it has been available, ...
I bought him 🤣
tawny marsh
@abstract gate courts call it " reasonable" and it wins
abstract gate
Take them then. Go on.
I mean, court of public opinion here is very much on your side as you can see 🤣
bitter snow
Please, do chagebacks on all your purchases, get banned, please 😄
tawny marsh
I dont need to, there a multiple class actions suits against scopely already
abstract gate
Yeah, for various things. Usually quite speculative.
bitter snow
Aaah, so you're just sad you weren't in on them? 😂
abstract gate
Go for this one. I’d love to see it.
You win I’ll buy you the ship skin you missed out on.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate why would you? Are you being hypocritical or are you just being sarcastic?
abstract gate
Why would I what?
earnest hornet
well March Last year i remember they brought in a way for people to convert their ship skin shard trackers
abstract gate
well March Last year i remember they brought in a way for people to convert thei...
Yeah you needed a full unlock though.
bitter snow
I dunno... I just cashed in all of mine when the event was originally on
What was the exchange rate now?
originally it was 1:1
bitter snow
So, if you got more than that this time around, then perhaps I should be claiming comp
Let me get my compo sticks and go down to the job centre...
oh wait
I'm not a karen
abstract gate
tawny marsh
Please read the entire document and the supplemental material
Seems many are uneducated on their rights
abstract gate
“In particular inadvertent purchases”
Also, please leave my suppleness out of this.
It’s holiday cuddle and I’ll work on it next week.
tawny marsh
As STFC is in both American markets and European markets it must comply with both laws
bitter snow
I feel like you've read it, but not actually understood it's application
caveat emptor and all that 😂
abstract gate
I mean, unless you’ve linked the wrong article then I suggest you step away from the armchair lawyering.
You’re neither good at understanding it nor at citing relevant articles supporting it.
That specific consultation and agreement was to target the use of “free” in names and descriptions of apps and games that in particular have a heavy reliance on purchases.
Games that say “free” but only have 5 levels of 200 unlocked for “free”
tawny marsh
"And supplemental"
bitter snow
I've played warhammer against guys like that... they've read everything cover to cover, and can quote it word for word, but can't make it join up in any coherent manner 😂
earnest hornet
I mean, unless you’ve linked the wrong article then I suggest you step away from...
well from his ss of the googles response, he can seem to just twist it to anyway he wants to read into it
dapper drum
welcome to the world of participation trophies
abstract gate
It’s why apps now have to have this kind of listing in the Apple store when they have a large supplemental purchase capability or necessity.
dapper drum
this is what we got out of it
abstract gate
abstract gate
this is what we got out of it
No this is what happens when families stay in shared homes.
earnest hornet
welcome to the world of participation trophies
lol 😄 hahaha that's what i said before 😄 hahahahaha
bitter snow
welcome to the world of participation trophies
Yep... apparently my first school sports day had a teacher running ahead to make sure none of the kids in the race "got too far ahead"
wtf does that teach? 😂
tawny marsh
Ive never seen such a strong case of Stockholm syndrome
abstract gate
Ive never seen such a strong case of Stockholm syndrome
You wouldn’t know it if it came up and misrepresented itself to you.
bitter snow
https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-13031409
I dunno... I was there, but it's long enough ago that I maty as well not have been 😂
dapper drum
not stockholm syndrome if you are not a spender
tawny marsh
@abstract gate please keep wasting your money and smiling
dapper drum
you wasted your money and now you are sad to bad
should have bought some drugs and pizza
abstract gate
you wasted your money and now you are sad to bad
It’s not wasting. I have fun.
dapper drum
no disappointment ever
tawny marsh
I could only imagine how people would react if the iss jelly event came once every 2 years
dapper drum
It’s not wasting. I have fun.
well I have 0 sympathy for people who spend on this game then whine about it
bitter snow
no disappointment ever
eh... there was this one time my wife mis-clicked an extra on a pizza order, burger sauce slathered on an otherwise nice pizza was hugely dissapointing
abstract gate
If I didn’t spend / play this I wouldn’t have such splendid conversations with people fraudulently misrepresenting information to one of our major clients about how they were done out of something because they didn’t win 🤣
earnest hornet
I could only imagine how people would react if the iss jelly event came once eve...
that doesnt matter i CHOSE not to participate in that event, i got my Jelly in a less expensive way
dapper drum
you spent knowing full well what you were getting into
abstract gate
I could only imagine how people would react if the iss jelly event came once eve...
Yeah you really don’t get this game do you.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate I get it better then you
earnest hornet
BUT if i only got half of the Jelly via the event i still wouldn't be sitting here complaining that i never got the full jelly
abstract gate
earnest hornet
i got what i was willling to put into it,
abstract gate
BUT if i only got half of the Jelly via the event i still wouldn't be sitting he...
You’d be half way to unlocking it the next time.
earnest hornet
exaclty
bitter snow
<@456226577798135808> I get it better then you
Tell us you don't understand mobile games and law without telling us you don't understand mobile games and law....
abstract gate
Or telling Google a pack of lies to get some money back because buyer’s remorse set in.
dapper drum
reading up on this chat, I assume this guy also believes covid is fake and that the vaccine is used to track people
abstract gate
reading up on this chat, I assume this guy also believes covid is fake and that ...
5G caused it.
bitter snow
reading up on this chat, I assume this guy also believes covid is fake and that ...
He crops up occasionally, whines about the tracker shards, and vanishes for another month or two
earnest hornet
reading up on this chat, I assume this guy also believes covid is fake and that ...
shhhhhh Covid is listening 😄
bitter snow
I can only think he doesn't have anything else of interest happening in his life
dapper drum
like bloody mary, if you say rona rona rona in a mirror with the lights off you get long covid
abstract gate
shhhhhh Covid is listening 😄
I hate that annoying Windows “Ta-dah” start up sound I make now when I wake up.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate how much have you spent on this game?
abstract gate
<@456226577798135808> how much have you spent on this game?
I don’t add that up because I’d cry.
tawny marsh
And where are you in progression
abstract gate
Ops 41. Thereabouts.
dapper drum
spending to progressions is highly relative to a players habits
bitter snow
because that matters why? 👀
dapper drum
you can have someone spend 10k a month and still be the worst player
abstract gate
Because he’s going to fraudulently misrepresent something to make a point that doesn’t exist.
bitter snow
saw an account listed at 9m power, and supposedly 25k spent... no idea what currency 😂
dapper drum
money spent does not = Progression
abstract gate
saw an account listed at 9m power, and supposedly 25k spent... no idea what curr...
Yen?
earnest hornet
And where are you in progression
as if this has total relevance to the fact you didnt rank high enough in an LB and got partial amount for the skin trackers.....
WHICH by the way, you would've got the refund but still benefited from the fact you would still have the trackers since they dont remove anything that you have been refunded for
tawny marsh
@bitter snow skill and understanding of the games mechanics reflects ones understanding of the game.
The difference is made up with money
abstract gate
Well, not quite.
dapper drum
money does not = skill
bitter snow
<@635902169874169876> skill and understanding of the games mechanics reflects on...
Hardly... I've seen ops 50's asking some bloody stupid questions
abstract gate
Lack of time, life circumstances.
bitter snow
Money buys time, primarily, in this game
dapper drum
you lost an SLB
bitter snow
that's it
bitter snow
you lost an SLB
And his dignity, morals and dog the way he goes on about it....
abstract gate
There is a person ahead of me that until the other week was purely F2P, but I don’t think he sleeps.
tawny marsh
I play less then most people, grind far less then most and mine less then most
abstract gate
He talks about his circadian rhythm but I see him running armadas all night and if I shout for a rare in the day he’s still on. Fairly sure he just swaps batteries.
abstract gate
I play less then most people, grind far less then most and mine less then most
And you expected to win by buying a low rent pack?
tawny marsh
Ive won far more then you not spending
abstract gate
Prove it.
bitter snow
I'm probably 2-3k in the hole with this game, but I've enjoyed it and kept up the standard of living outside of the game... so eh
earnest hornet
and yet here you are complaining about an item you got a refund for, AND you still can benefit from it because they dont remove the items you get a refund for
abstract gate
Yeah, I mean, I’d like to have progressed my project car further but it would just be more money sat there doing nothing 🤣
dapper drum
And you expected to win by buying a low rent pack?
because he "understands this game" 🤣
tawny marsh
I generally just do the battle pass
dapper drum
you can stockpile a year for an event
bitter snow
I generally just do the battle pass
So what's the complaint exactly? 😂
dapper drum
and someone will beat you with 2 packs easy
tawny marsh
dapper drum
don't expect to win with 1 pack ever
tawny marsh
Only officers i don't have
bitter snow
By the way, happy new year, can anyone tell I'm back at my work desk today? 😂
abstract gate
And?
tawny marsh
Ive won every other auction without packs
abstract gate
By being the only one in the bracket because everyone else wanted something better than a Vahklas?
dapper drum
this is a pay to win game and everyone knows that
tawny marsh
@abstract gate not being gullible and easily manipulated
earnest hornet
😄
abstract gate
Gullible and easily manipulated?
tawny marsh
@abstract gate yes
abstract gate
No that’s that poor Google rep you screwed over.
earnest hornet
says the one who lied to google and got a refund by fraud
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet they took 2 weeks to review what I wrote and contacted scopely
dapper drum
I can see @tawny marsh as the person that buys a tesla then gets mad when it doesn't take unleaded
abstract gate
<@256699905605763077> they took 2 weeks to review what I wrote and contacted sco...
And it took two weeks because Scopely didn’t reply.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate actually they did
earnest hornet
I can see <@!227947476953464843> as the person that buys a tesla then gets mad w...
oooooo no like this guy, blew it up 😄 hahahahhahahaha
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300488756/tesla-owner-straps-car-with-dynamite-and-blows-it-up-rather-than-pay-22000-in-repairs
tawny marsh
Because I had to email them
But im talking to spenders who don't mind getting hoodwinked and bamboozled
abstract gate
abstract gate
But im talking to spenders who don't mind getting hoodwinked and bamboozled
There’s only one in here that’s pedalling lies and misinformation.
earnest hornet
But im talking to spenders who don't mind getting hoodwinked and bamboozled
yea cos my Battlepass spend is massive
tawny marsh
Im sure you see "value" in packs
abstract gate
Everyone so far has been quite eyes open in what they spend.
earnest hornet
Im sure you see "value" in packs
value is percieved.
dapper drum
and you see "guarantee win 1 pack only" right
earnest hornet
and is percieved differently by different people
tawny marsh
@dapper drum arnet you like level 30? For 2 years?
abstract gate
No 😂
dapper drum
you paid knowing full well you weren't going to win
just so you can moan about it into 2022 and not let 2020 die
you still gripe about your first heart break because you held hands
earnest hornet
heck you got a refund for it, so why are you here still complaining about it??
tawny marsh
Im still laughing at people who stayed at ops 35 for 2 years
abstract gate
you paid knowing full well you weren't going to win
I got my snowflake gun by buying one pack. But I didn’t only get my snowflake gun from it, I also got all my platforms ready for Ops 42.
earnest hornet
you got your money And you still kept the prize, so yay for you
abstract gate
heck you got a refund for it, so why are you here still complaining about it??
Because he knows it’s a hollow victory as he had to lie to get it.
dapper drum
but he didn't get the girl
abstract gate
but he didn't get the girl
Yuki?
dapper drum
gaila
abstract gate
I wonder how far the green goes.
tawny marsh
What's funny is both of you will quit this game before you ever hit the mid 40s
abstract gate
Not far enough to get a skin unlock obviously.
tawny marsh
Because it will be to hard and to expensive
dapper drum
well I would assume like most mammals its pink inside 😂
earnest hornet
What's funny is both of you will quit this game before you ever hit the mid 40s
whys that??
abstract gate
What's funny is both of you will quit this game before you ever hit the mid 40s
Where do you class the mid 40s?
earnest hornet
you seem to know so much about us, tell us why
abstract gate
😂
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet you camped 39 out of fear of not being able to compete and @abstract gate you spend to make up for your lack of self control and inability to plan for events
dapper drum
with g5 economy rolling out and rewards increasing for events f2p can reach lvl 50 by end of this year
earnest hornet
lol he has no idea 😄 I've played this for nearly coming up 4 years
tawny marsh
@dapper drum not at all
dapper drum
well then you are not playing the same game as us
earnest hornet
the game economy is 10 if not 20 times better then it was back then
dapper drum
and what you say you know is quite inaccurate and has no credibility
tawny marsh
@dapper drum actually, its very accurate. The g4 economys wall was never resources but materials
dapper drum
which is no surprise as you thought buying a pack guarantees you a win
tawny marsh
Ask any whale
earnest hornet
<@256699905605763077> you camped 39 out of fear of not being able to compete and...
and so why does that mean i will leave by mid 40s, thats not true at all.
abstract gate
Ask any whale
I’m in an alliance of two whales.
tawny marsh
@dapper drum lol man you have no idea
abstract gate
I ask them many things.
dapper drum
<@557424108498059266> lol man you have no idea
more than you apparently
earnest hornet
no it's cos Im happy doing it at a steady pace, rather then blowing money i dont have.
dapper drum
as everyone else here
tawny marsh
@dapper drum what ops are you
dapper drum
14
abstract gate
What odds is that?
tawny marsh
@dapper drum then you really have no idea
earnest hornet
lol hahahahahahaa
tawny marsh
@abstract gate this one will realize his credit card won't buy progression and get frustrated
tawny marsh
I don't know anything about dark other then what he says
dapper drum
Ops 14 for over 3 years baby 😂
tawny marsh
Here is a bet. Yall quit. Before you hit 50
earnest hornet
Here is a bet. Yall quit. Before you hit 50
oooh i wanna take this bet 😄
How much 😄
dapper drum
If you believe you are entitled to win an SLB by buying a single pack or moneyback you will believe that
abstract gate
Why would anyone take a bet with someone who has a history of fraudulently misrepresenting stuff?
tawny marsh
1 dollar a gentlments bet
abstract gate
Let’s make it interesting; $10k?
dapper drum
If you are so confident you will bet everything you own to charity vs our 1$
abstract gate
No 😂
earnest hornet
I want it in cash 😄
dapper drum
Most of us free players are in it for the dynasty
Our accounts will be handed down the generations
abstract gate
I want you delivering it to me by helicopter; the driveway will take it.
bitter snow
How much 😄
Not worth it, he'll just do a chargeback
earnest hornet
and none of this Western Union Nigerian Prince stuff either....
The last guy that i emailed didnt reply,
😄
tawny marsh
Guess yall can't man up
abstract gate
Briefcase with it in non-sequential notes.
tawny marsh
Its cool.
bitter snow
Its cool.
Because you don't place bets with people that cannot be trusted 😂
What ops are you, btw?
abstract gate
I mean, it ain’t like he has a history of lying to get his money back.
tawny marsh
Thats....why you use a escrow service....
earnest hornet
yea we've seen you history, and the way you twist stuff, you'd twist it in some way so that you would'nt have to pay
bitter snow
yea we've seen you history, and the way you twist stuff, you'd twist it in some ...
Heads I win, Tails you lose... all good with you?
tawny marsh
Maybe yall don't know what escrow means?
earnest hornet
Heads I win, Tails you lose... all good with you?
hahahahah yup i used to do this with my brother 😄 hahahahaha
earnest hornet
Maybe yall don't know what escrow means?
yes i do know
bitter snow
Maybe yall don't know what escrow means?
Because you'd tell the escrow service the truth, right?
Unlike, I dunno... google?
earnest hornet
just like google aye 😄
bitter snow
You have no credibility, deal with it 😂
abstract gate
I quit last year so no doubt you’d use that as evidence of me having quit before Ops 50
earnest hornet
cos you know, thats who "escrow" for the google apps aye
abstract gate
I trust Prince Andrew more than I trust you.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate you would ive seen what a prince Andrew looks like it fits you well
earnest hornet
google takes that money they refund out of what they then pass on to scopely
abstract gate
Stop chewing the keyboard and spit it out properly man.
bitter snow
Guy can't deal with the fact we're laughing at him... keeps coming back 😂
abstract gate
😂
tawny marsh
Im actually, enjoying watching this. Because, you guys actually truly believe you are right.
abstract gate
Busy trying to mine lat but it’s hard work when you see someone taking this much rope.
tawny marsh
Like, you really, really do.
tawny marsh
Ive never seen such a gullible group
dapper drum
Like you a broken clock is right atleast twice a day
abstract gate
I mean, when you’re the only one in a room full of people disagreeing with you.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate your either in a room with idiots or your a idiot
earnest hornet
abstract gate
Have you ever stopped, thought, taken stock and reviewed whether it is possible that everyone else in the room is actually right?
tawny marsh
Yes.
dapper drum
He cant, this is the problem with the Dunning Kruger effect
When you are so stupid you cant realize your stupidity hurts others just thinking about it
tawny marsh
@abstract gate thing is I don't get bothered, I use your behavior to do modeling for my work.
I turn these conversations into case studies for a consumer profile
dapper drum
I can see him going in buying 3 tires for his car then complaining when he gets only 3 tires
tawny marsh
And you guys are litterally gold
abstract gate
Use this conversation without my consent and you’ll be in court; as you neither requested permission nor got it.
😂
earnest hornet
Use this conversation without my consent and you’ll be in court; as you neither ...
And im sure you would be able to find some unused lawyering to back up this argument
😄
dapper drum
This is a private discord
dapper drum
Invite only
earnest hornet
Rights have been waved
actually no
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet actually yes
abstract gate
actually no
Don’t help him.
It’s funny to watch the stupid dig holes that the moderators will have to ban him from.
earnest hornet
😄
tawny marsh
Even private forums as long as the individuals personal information isn't disclosed isnt protected
abstract gate
That’s…
Yeah…
No, you don’t really understand PII do you.
Someone’s Discord username is considered PII, as it links to an individual.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate well I've been doing it for over a decade so, and I'm not the lawyer
dapper drum
He doesnt understand leaderboards what would you expect 🤣
bitter snow
ffs. Waived, Too, you're.... and we're supposedly the idiots 🤷♂️
abstract gate
Yeah, you ever heard of Open Banking and FDX?
earnest hornet
Even private forums as long as the individuals personal information isn't disclo...
but even so just the fact he just said he doesnt give you permission would mean you dont have the right to anyway. besides the fact he doesnt even have to say it.
tawny marsh
@earnest hornet the only thing I couldn't use is his username
I can make a case study on a John doe
bitter snow
I'd block the fool, but the block function in discord is shockingly bad 😂
abstract gate
Yeah, no, that’s not how conversations in areas you need to register to read work.
bitter snow
even worse than STFC used to be
tawny marsh
@abstract gate works the same way with studies in the USA
abstract gate
If you use the text, do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to court.
dapper drum
Block function in game is used to track players more than to ignore them
abstract gate
Block function in game is used to track players more than to ignore them
Yup
bitter snow
Block function in game is used to track players more than to ignore them
Yes, but at least it also actually functions as a block now 😂 rather than only if you're freshly logged in, during a full moon, on a Tuesday
tawny marsh
@abstract gate you have no idea what your talking about when I talk about a case study and a profile
bitter snow
GC is approaching bearable nowadays
abstract gate
I know that you’ve been profiled and they’ll be in soon with the medication?
tawny marsh
@abstract gate see thats better now you understand
bitter snow
I know that you’ve been profiled and they’ll be in soon with the medication?
Maybe that's why he's only on once every couple of months
abstract gate
But yeah, sure, go ahead.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate making progress
bitter snow
Those are the days he escapes 😂
abstract gate
If you think that telling a room full of people you want to sell something to a story that starts with “I fraudulently misrepresented a situation to Google for at most $100” is how you’re going to progress… that’s hilarious.
bitter snow
If you think that telling a room full of people you want to sell something to a ...
he must work in sales and marketing
tawny marsh
@abstract gate the fact you think thats all that happened shows me a great deal about your abilities
abstract gate
he must work in sales and marketing
I’ve met a few people there that I think “thank god the people who make the product are good cos if I was buying this on the strength of the sales pitch we wouldn’t be buying”
tawny marsh
I am not annoyed you guys are a perfect model for the RWA market
bitter snow
I’ve met a few people there that I think “thank god the people who make the prod...
I've worked with too many S&M "execs" who want to sell things that don't exist, or that they have no understanding of... all nice people in general, but utter con merchants 😂
tawny marsh
I just didn't think it was that prominent in stfc
abstract gate
Can someone help if Kang (hull breach as captain ) and HGW (crits) would still do 1.5x damage even on an augur ? L’nar and Kang are maxed
abstract gate
Can someone help if Kang (hull breach as captain ) and HGW (crits) would still d...
Yes.
bitter snow
Can someone help if Kang (hull breach as captain ) and HGW (crits) would still d...
Can't think why they wouldn't, assuming breach triggered
*and was active at the time of the crit
abstract gate
Awesome 😎 thx guys
tawny marsh
@abstract gate it might seem less because he's running 5
bitter snow
And by 'worked with' I mean, 'pulled their asses out of the fire by bashing together the feature or product they sold during overtime'
abstract gate
That’s not how 5 works
But… yeah.
And is L’Nar damage apply on health bar we see during the crew setup ?
tawny marsh
@abstract gate you really are slow on context
abstract gate
The logs won’t show the 1.5x damage so everyone in my alliance had their own assumptions 🤣🤣
I’m trying to do a job, mine Lat and give you rope.
It’s not slow, it’s distraction.
tawny marsh
@abstract gate im trying to keep you talking
@abstract gate middle aged man, most likely 80 120k income, single or recently divorced
abstract gate
I’m hoping you get far enough with the whole taking PII and conversations from here without consent that the moderators show you a door you can’t get back through.
Aaaaand we’ve hit the threshold <@&509691205798592532> 🤣
tawny marsh
@abstract gate nope thats not gonna do it.
abstract gate
<@456226577798135808> it might seem less because he's running 5
He’s mitigating it with 5 but yes he was crewing for the ent 🤣
bitter snow
And is L’Nar damage apply on health bar we see during the crew setup ?
l'nar's boost to damage will increase the initial "X did Y damage" in the battle logs, same as the boost to critical hit damage from breach, immediately before the "mitigates N damage" line
Ignore what Jay said, 5 affects the 'mitigated' step, not the part where damage is produced
abstract gate
Ignore what Jay said, 5 affects the 'mitigated' step, not the part where damage ...
Which bit? The bit where he was wrong about 5 or the rest of the day he’s been wrong?
bitter snow
I said it might seem lower
Only if you're solely looking at the hull/shield damage like a noob
earnest hornet
I said it might seem lower
um but that still doesnt change what the initial damage shown in the battle reports show, only what the other player mitigates
dapper drum
yeah 5 shows the end result after the other player deals the blow
doesn't affect the other players shot
earnest hornet
so the point is saying he should still see the damage increase in the battle report, 5 doesnt chage that
bitter snow
5 changes the mitigation step, Chen, T'laan, and the Glory in the Kill reduction officers etc affect the initial 'damage' number, pre-mitigation
abstract gate
l'nar's boost to damage will increase the initial "X did Y damage" in the battle...
I will remember this next time when I read again. Thank you for the help ! Appreciate it !
dapper drum
kang with HG worf and harrison will kill 33 probes in 1st round with vidar
but people still want to use 5 and go mutliple rounds
bitter snow
kang with HG worf and harrison will kill 33 probes in 1st round with vidar
.. HG is pvp only?
Soooo
dapper drum
than I have some really good luck 😂
tawny marsh
@dapper drum spectacular advice
bitter snow
And kang is for interceptors 😂
tawny marsh
All i see here is pure genius
dapper drum
the penetration is a bonus if thats your goal
bitter snow
need crits for breach though...
dapper drum
hull breech + crit is 3.5x damage
bitter snow
You'd be better off with Gorkon cap, Harrison and Charv I'd think?
if you're looking at round one kills
abstract gate
How much does Saru negate HG in PvP
dapper drum
depends on tier and who takes first shot
if you are using a crit reduction officer they need to proc after a crit boosting officer
tawny marsh
abstract gate
Saru Kang HGWorf a good PvP crew ?
dapper drum
better off with ToS Uhura
abstract gate
As Capt?
dapper drum
no below deck
abstract gate
Thanks
abstract gate
but bridge crew is ok?
dapper drum
I feel like you are asking where to find level 3 hostiles
reason I say ToS Uhura is better than saru is because of her officer ability
saru officer ability is mute in PvP
you would need over 500% damage reduction to make a noticeable difference
and even that would only work out to around 25k damage on a normal g3 ship
bitter snow
you would need over 500% damage reduction to make a noticeable difference
Or 100% repeatedly... I really do like the interplay between Emp Gigi and TOS Kirk....
dapper drum
sexy gg and stutter kirk?
abstract gate
but bridge crew is ok?
You’d better off with mitigation and then damage than reduction if you are attacking
bitter snow
I don't have the screenshot anymore, but when attacking TOS Kirk (both captain), after approx 8-10 rounds he starts reducing damage dealt to 0 😂
dapper drum
during a takeover I can see some benefit but not much
bitter snow
She changes the officer defence to a negative number, and he cumulatively adds that negative to the damage... very niche, but great to see the outrage 😄
bitter snow
pretty much... but what else do you see tos kirk captaining?
dapper drum
but she has to be captain and during a takeover no one ever checks to see what the other ship is running
my augur
ToS Kirk with ToS Uhura and Kelvin Spock
use it to take down whales ents enough for Marcus Gorkon Khan to work on my Ent
bitter snow
😂
abstract gate
Apparently it’s good enough to knock down most of 200k of Discovery too.
earnest hornet
considering the dvor on fires each Odd round
dapper drum
I remember that time someone was whining about eclipse trader event and they didn't have stella saying it was impossible
and I took out a 27 eclipse with a fortunate
using GG tyler khan
abstract gate
🤣
bitter snow
traders are definitely easier than separatists 😂
abstract gate
Does anyone remember that guy that thought Google buying his happiness was an admission of guilt?
abstract gate
traders are definitely easier than separatists 😂
Depends 🤣
dapper drum
sep bosses are easy
dapper drum
they were fun back in the day too when the basic epics were all that was available
abstract gate
My biggest hurdle was a T4 Chen but she’s cool now.
dapper drum
using nero and vemet on a fortunate to win a damage LB
bitter snow
they were fun back in the day too when the basic epics were all that was availab...
I'm thinking more in terms of only having a turas to play with 😂
yeah, burn is the way forward for bosses on those events
But the exchange traders you can actually kill
dapper drum
now a sally can wipe them out clean with only a scratch
and low level eclipse traders are same
its when you get into the mid 30's they start to do more than 1k damage per shot
earnest hornet
Lol love it, deleted the screenshot of his google convo 😄 hahahahaha
dapper drum
he was talking about the R word
bitter snow
ops 14 in the oven 🕺
dawn frost
Is there any hint on next event with franklin blueprints?
scenic kernel
Probably on saturdays of the next battlepass
hardy parcel
yeah the cosmic cleanup
alpine yoke
anyone know what event stores offer bb blueprints? would like to get a second one. I feel like I've seen them but can't remember which events
glacial mauve
Other than end of TNG arc I havent seen BB blueprints
bitter snow
anyone know what event stores offer bb blueprints? would like to get a second on...
Generally only the big "end of arc" event stores
TNG would have been the last one, we might get one this month if there's a final duality pt4 ?
Otherwise... later
ripe jungle
Apparently it’s good enough to knock down most of 200k of Discovery too.
Ops 49 on my server took out 4 or 5 of our kehras with his realta 😂 fun times
ripe jungle
How much does Saru negate HG in PvP
Just look at his captain ability vs worf’s? No synergy, drops 10% chance every time you get hit with a crit, so will neuter worf after 4-5 crits. Will take more if worf is tiered up.
plush mica
Well, looks like we'll at least be getting some kind of "We're sorry" gift from our overlords. Got this message...
hushed mist
Have they announced the events for this week yet?
abstract gate
They don’t @hushed mist
They just turn up.
I’d put a lot of money on another Faction Hunt 24h SMS starting in 1hr 25 though
uneven peak
Followed by CoW and then Apex, for a change.
viral yarrow
Nope a 4th day of faction hunt scopley must be dead and no one to put up a different event 😂
Not only do they stuff us on new years with changing rewards and no word or apology from them they don't even have imagination to put on a different event <@&509691205798592532>
uneven peak
What makes you think it's going to be 4 day?
viral yarrow
What makes you think it's going to be 4 day?
This is the 4th day of faction hunt
uneven peak
Today is day 3 and the ALB ends at the next reset - end of day 3
viral yarrow
Next reset is tomorrow we just got another 24hrs of it
viral yarrow
As was always scheduled
Funny that I have completed 3 days already and alliance was to end at reset today but its been extended for another 24hrs which is the 4th one to do
uneven peak
It's been 2 days so far. You're mistaken, here. No extra time has been added, it's still exactly the same as it was for the ALB, you can see timestamps in previous messages about it
viral yarrow
You missed a day
uneven peak
I didn't 😉
glacial mauve
its only been 2 days
viral yarrow
Everyone on my server has done 3 days of it
glacial mauve
this is day 3 as per the ALB counter
uneven peak
At 9pm (UK) yesterday I could see that the ALB would continue into today for day 3, as could the person I was messaging. The other person also said that it was day 2 at that point.
viral yarrow
Another 4k ultra no problem goes well with the 12k I collected so far from this event 😂😂
terse cedar
Ugh
viral yarrow
I always save the ultra until faction hunt is over then change at once 😂😂
glacial mauve
wait for an arc spending event?
tardy lintel
Any idea if we're getting an Apex event before the next arc?
balmy grotto
full notch
CoW?
uneven peak
Probably tomorrow
vital drum
So long as it involves spamming hundreds of ships we should be good
twilit kestrel
Date shown
sour plaza
Can we please have the daily event where you spent ship XP? The event that replaced it is just rubbish. For those of us who are less inclined to buy a pack it was a good source of Lat and gave us a reason to use ship xp outside of domination.
abstract gate
Probably tomorrow
Nooo, Apex.
uneven peak
CoW then apex, surely?
abstract gate
uneven peak
Mudmarda hell is weekend hell
abstract gate
Apex first. Love Apex.
zinc sun
For the love of God.... make Faction Hunt less time intensive.... I am starting to really hate DAY 3.....
Who am I kidding.... I start hating it after DAY 1
zinc sun
Don't get me wrong... love the rewards. Just don't make the milestones so damn long.
zinc sun
Your experience is not the same for others... try 1 to 1.5 hours per faction
All I am saying is that it's a little lopsided when you compare it to the Anomaly Sunday event. That is done in like 3 to 10 minutes.
Just make Faction Hunt quicker.... ie, more points accrued per hit or make the milestone points less.
abstract gate
Your experience is not the same for others... try 1 to 1.5 hours per faction
Do smaller hostiles with more ships.
zinc sun
Lol... you're funny. I have other ships doing what they do best... and only have 4 ships... so...
Your solution would also require Scopely to provide an equal alternative to PMC...
ripe jungle
Can we please have the daily event where you spent ship XP? The event that repla...
They changed it on your server? Ours is still spend ship xp
light jolt
Where do we find the skin trade-in?
simple spear
Lol... you're funny. I have other ships doing what they do best... and only have...
There are other crews to use for hostiles. Weaker hostiles do not require pmc. You can use cadet uhura crew, borg crew, common tng crew, and even bearded Mudd with full synergy
zinc sun
There are other crews to use for hostiles. Weaker hostiles do not require pmc. Y...
True... but who wants to run two ships in two different systems. I still don't have Mudd.
Point is... make Scopely do "some work" by simply changing the event requirements instead of making US the players do all the hard work.
simple spear
I run my ships in the same system so there is no screen lag. Beta penthe is great for klingon, 10 points per kill and weak like 500k power.
zinc sun
It would be a lot easier for Scopely to fix this than for us to jerryrig ships/crews just to finish an event.
simple spear
It's not hard if you would just take some advice and change your approach. What do you think will happen first?
People have been complaining about fh for quite some time and they haven't changed yet. Just try hitting very low hostiles with multiple ships I guarantee it won't take very long
Just trying to help 🖖