#🏆-event-chat

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abstract gate
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Week*

ashen wharf
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and somehow trying to compare

main spindle
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I do pull Max value with my ultra tokens and how we supposed to know there going to change the events be for we use them if they let us know the day after we get the ultra recruit tokens in the bp

ashen wharf
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That we are the problem

abstract gate
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Was down to 2000 last night with the event.

abstract gate
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SMS, even heroic are super easy with faction tokens.

elder gyro
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So we not getting a chest for ticketed events

abstract gate
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The only reason to pull ultras is because you have so many that it doesn’t matter, or because there’s an SLB.

robust vapor
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How often do we get special events that require only ultra recruit tokens?..

main spindle
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I don't do the slbs there useless for me i never place in them

abstract gate
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How are you not seeing this link.

south arrow
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We have never had an event that requires only ultra recruit tokens

ashen wharf
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uh we did

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Ages ago

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Tho

abstract gate
south arrow
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I have never seen on and I have been playing for almost 3 years

main spindle
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No i just gave up on doing them cuz its pointless when u have all whales that win the slb

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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the uhhh first tos arc i think

abstract gate
south arrow
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Not for ultra always shards

main spindle
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I haven't good for u @abstract gate

abstract gate
robust vapor
abstract gate
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That approach will never have even got you a place on an auction.

main spindle
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I gave up on all slb cuz i cant win or even rank bottom not even on slb for hitting reds

ashen wharf
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because our servers dont source us capable of doing slbs

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Because we dont get ultra recruit tokens

abstract gate
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You’re a full 95+ shards better off than you would have been, and I’m trying to explain to you that if you do basic resource management you would have walked through this wondering why everyone is so upset.

ashen wharf
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Even in heroic events

charred grove
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It's not player's fault Scopely changed the event at the last minute without telling people properly. The in-game news still lists the event as spending materials.

ashen wharf
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But somehow its the players fault for not doing their "saving" months ahead with a 2 day notice

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This argument is dumb

main spindle
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Absolutely

abstract gate
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It was not cool of Scopely to change it. No two ways about that.

main spindle
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@abstract gate that's what ur making it sound like

abstract gate
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But having nothing to your name, that is all you.

charred grove
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Some people did manage their resources. They saved up the g3-g5 stuff to do the event, then suddenly that wasn't good enough.

ashen wharf
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hes not understanding at all

abstract gate
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It’s hard enough spending G3 sometimes.

main spindle
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I wouldn't have nothing to my name if scopely told us ahead of time then i would have been able to finish that's what im trying to get across to u

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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Why do you need a down payment on a mortgage?

abstract gate
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I’m really not seeing how this is so complicated. If you sell at the bottom, you’ll never have anything.

charred grove
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Why would you expect to have to save a certain resource when you've already been told you need to save a different one?

main spindle
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Had i known about it the day i got the ultra tokens in the battle pass. Would have save them but ir making it sound like its my fault@abstract gate

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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Lol

abstract gate
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Do you do your T5 officer levelling just because you’re bored one lunchtime or during an Officer XP spend event?

main spindle
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Then i would have had plenty with what i got from the event yesterday and the one this morning

ashen wharf
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bro

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We dont get anything except mats from officer xp

abstract gate
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But why would you spend officer XP when there isn’t an event on when you can easily spend it when there is an event on?

ashen wharf
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And its not even alot of mats its net negative amounts of mats KEKW

abstract gate
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How is spending officer XP negative mats 🤣

ashen wharf
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spend 2 million xp for 11 uncommon 3* and 10 mil parsteel

main spindle
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I had a officer recruit event in my dailys the day i got the ultra tokens in the battle pass different servers different daily events

ashen wharf
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no one does those things in old servers

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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Maybe in your new server you get something worth doing it

abstract gate
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The news to us is that you get ship upgrade instead of ship XP

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But it’s still a ship event.

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I had the same recruit event. Rather than just throwing the best tokens on the deck in I saved those for an SLB probably in a couple of months (or another one of these ultra events next arc 😂) and threw in the faction tokens.

abstract gate
main spindle
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Ok ship upgrade events suck u get very little ore mats and some par

ashen wharf
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we dont get ultra recruits in events since like a year ago

if we had 0 ultra recruits when they announced the change

wouldnt be able to do this event

you all get events that give ultra recruits

event changes to your favor

you can complete it

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Its not hard to understand

abstract gate
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Ok, if I try any harder to get this horse to drink it’s gonna fall in and drown.

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You waste your resource through laziness.

ashen wharf
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Our servers are different

abstract gate
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It’s led you to here.

ashen wharf
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And no he didnt we dont get a source like you

abstract gate
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This one hopefully is here to stay, plan ahead 👌🏻

abstract gate
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That is how you get poor.

ashen wharf
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i have more than you right now and ive been saving for a year

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Lol

desert laurel
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so what's the arguing for?

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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he doesnt understand old servers dont get ultra recruit events and his server does and is trying to say thats our fault

halcyon sentinel
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like i said disengage with the troll stay mad, either that or he's amazingly obtuse lol

ashen wharf
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And we should be resource managing 5-6 months ahead of time

abstract gate
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A few weeks would cover it.

ashen wharf
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Big obtuse

abstract gate
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Or are you telling me your faction hunt doesn’t have ultras either?

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(That was a few weeks ago now though. Those people have legit complaint against scopely if they did SLB the other day)

ashen wharf
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Anyways

main spindle
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No it does just only see faction hunt once a month

ashen wharf
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Wheres my parsteel chest

charred grove
ashen wharf
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Yeah

abstract gate
ashen wharf
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So funny

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Youll learn in 2-3 years when your server stops giving stuff

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Bud

abstract gate
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What’s funny is (assumedly) adults capable of managing some level of financial self sufficiency who then don’t understand that spending stuff when it comes in the door is how you never have anything.

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Scopely pulled a proper move on people with this.

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I have sympathy.

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I am trying to say though that there are ways to play the game that mean that them doing this should not result in this mess.

halcyon sentinel
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ok a troll, for sure 😄

abstract gate
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Or just not American.

cunning radish
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I have no sympathy for anyone.

abstract gate
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This is basic economics.

cunning radish
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It’s a game. With currencies. Learn to save them Cus you need them

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Fin

abstract gate
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I’m trying to be nice about it Simpy.

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It ain’t working though 🤣

cunning radish
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If you haven’t got that concept by now continue your destiny to failure

halcyon sentinel
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my final comment is i just did the 2 ship xp event, got the ultra tokens as rewards and immediately spent them all!!!! 😄

main spindle
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Then y argue with us and just say that

abstract gate
main spindle
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Sad thing is that thos that dont unlock 4 of 10 will probably have to wait a year to get the rest of the shards for him cuz when the epic officers are in a event store there so expensive with the event tokens to even get them

ashen wharf
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He will be in the event store

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When it comes in a few months

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Or whenever the "arc group period" ends

main spindle
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Yeah for 100k of whatever tokens they use for that event store wich for me is impossible to get

abstract gate
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@main spindle there’s a lot of noise from the content creators about acquisition of officers.

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We can all but hope that means it will get some attention.

ashen wharf
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theres alot of noise that content creators promised year ago too that never came to light

cunning radish
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they cant promise shit

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they dont run the game

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why wud u ever believe that

abstract gate
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I appreciate the reasons for holding them back, releasing them the next week after auction devalues them massively so the auctions become pointless.

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But there’s a happy medium between “the next week” and “the 32nd of February”

main spindle
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I have like 8 or 10 epic officers I don't have unlocked yet and the TOS epics i cant get cuz theres on way to get them right now

ashen wharf
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yeah same

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But they were all focused on ..

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Pvp

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Which is boring

cunning radish
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tos kirk

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is legit the best officer for pvp i have

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in the realta rumble the other month i was killing 39s and 40 players

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at ops 32

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just cus i had him

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lol

main spindle
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Wish i had him but i dont

cunning radish
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like 20 of them before my hull even got low

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was crazy

ashen wharf
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easily beaten with my harrison

cunning radish
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not really

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ill just use harrison and tos kirk

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😂

main spindle
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If it wasn't for a recruit option for the borg and Stella officers i wouldn't have any of them either

ashen wharf
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morale does nothing against marcus harrison combo!!!

cunning radish
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its not the morale u use him for

ashen wharf
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first shots too

abstract gate
main spindle
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I dont have harrison cuz the only way to get him is a leader board witch i suck at

cunning radish
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i got georg from that recent event too

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i nearly have every officer ...=/

abstract gate
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Georgie Porgie is slowly coming to me.

cunning radish
abstract gate
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Good old Disco officer tokens.

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Lorca must have got lost on his way there though 🤷🏻‍♂️

ashen wharf
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they had a harrison event that wasnt well planned so i got him for nothing

abstract gate
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A scopely event that wasn’t well planned?

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They always plan their events spectacularly. Where have you been the last 7 days?

main spindle
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@cunning radish ur lucky i have none of the TNG epics

cunning radish
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i was just under the curve on my server

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so i won nearly everything

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i have picard t3

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😂

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it definitely helps having crew options

abstract gate
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I got Data as I was the first to work out on our server about using Leslie on Sarco.

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(That was him right? The PvP / hostile event?)

cunning radish
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sadly i cannot find anyone else with leslie on my server

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to cheese with

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😦

desert laurel
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data was a domination event, and only offered once

abstract gate
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And I got Riker in the after run after everyone had been bled dry for one of the other epics.

abstract gate
desert laurel
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nbd, he's not good

abstract gate
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Here he is in all his glory.

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He loves away missions.

cunning radish
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mine does too

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LOL

main spindle
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I was wrong i have 16 epics that still need to be unlocked not 10

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And many of them i have no way to get shards for them a few i do but most of them dont

abstract gate
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Absent a system with interceptors and explorers to grind in, they work passably.

frail ice
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a few more days and borg stonn will join him

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now.. next month we want borg Barot. Bring it

mental yoke
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Will borg barot officer ability be broken like reg barot has for 3 years? Asking for a friend…

frail ice
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Barot's broken? how?

robust vapor
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Doesn't work 🤷‍♂️

modern estuary
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<@&509691205798592532> so its tuesday and no chest

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bare in mind we still have a worf spend event coming

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this arc will be getting a snotty survey, .............. to summarize

while i DO like the new way to source officers - the idea A for effort - the implementation of that idea grade F

faults that determined the F grade

  1. milestones way too high for ops 40-43 players
  2. for ops 40-43 90% of stuff to upgrade doesnt require uc/rares g4 but only common g4s AND vast amounts (billions) of par, trit and dil just to do an upgrade using common g4 that wasnt counted
  3. too frequent meaning players didnt have enough time in between events to recoup RSS and common to push to the point of needing uc/rares
  4. lack of uc parts for ship upgrades in battlepass event rewards meant upgrading g4s was not an alternate option
  5. changing of goal posts (needing ultras) made it even more difficult to complete the events
desert laurel
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if borg barot's built like the others he's pretty garbo and boring for an officer

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it would be nice to skip an officer auction for a change though, so I'm all for it

modern estuary
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and screwed over players ops 40-43

desert laurel
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oh I was responding to the barot discussion earlier, hadn't read your post yet

modern estuary
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G4 common spend is already a major bottleneck but it should be considered a viable spend currency during events

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at least for the ops 40-43 players

elder gyro
spark prism
waxen sedge
winged dove
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the ultra recruit requirements suck balls at ops 46 no way without spending to finish event

ripe jungle
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How many do you need at 46?

sonic swan
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Whole arc is a shambles imo they forget its a game and meant to be fun and not about pushing more and more towards pay to complete and making everyone struggle so much to get through it all

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Even for the people that have the resources it's been the most costly arc since I joined 2 and a half years ago scopley reached a new low as far as I'm concerned

cyan swallow
sonic swan
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If you buy a recruit pack yes @cyan swallow

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Not worth it though

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Would rather not complete it than pay to complete it

hearty island
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Nope next month comes Borg Worf obviously

ember walrus
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Na borg scotty

hallow ember
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So I find it interesting that out of all these ultra draws, not a single lucky draw showed up. Not even a little one for the rare officers.

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It would be VERY disappointing if when the code was changed to only able to draw one chest at a time the luckies disappeared at the same time.

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I wonder if anyone has had once since the change, or it's just me.

spark prism
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Still waiting for the parsteel compensation for the Joint Operation ticketed event. We were promised a chest to be delivered yesterday….

robust vapor
hallow ember
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Around that range, maybe one more. But I cant remember if the little luckies also show up for ultras as well as premium. It's just strange with no one in my alliance so far talking about a lucky and normally someone does. I'm no probability expert for sure, but the chance of one draw starts going up pretty good for somebody.

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Or at least is should.

robust vapor
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Well, sort of. The chances of getting a draw never change and past results do not impact future results, but the likelihood of getting none out of an increasing pool of samples gets incredibly unlikely.
If 10 people open 9 each then there'd be about a 1% chance to see none. But that doesn't mean that you can't, or that many others didn't, or that someone just didn't say/notice.

hallow ember
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Concur with the math. My alliance just tends to be braggy happy when they do get one. So again, strangely coincidental with what we know were code changes to the ultra chests is how I would say it at this point (can only pull one now and the event disappeared for a bit before that happened).

robust vapor
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The lack of lucky draws has been a regular complaint for some time, it's probably just a coincidence.

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And the event disappeared after I thought? As they had too many points awarded per chest originally, making it much easier to complete.

hallow ember
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The event went away for some and not others. That was the case on points though, and from what I have seen here they got their points cut and are in the ticket process to solve that.

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I tend to wait on all Scopley point events these days though. The track record out of the gate is less than stellar.

ember walrus
robust vapor
ember walrus
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Very true

robust vapor
# hallow ember The event went away for some and not others. That was the case on points thoug...

Pretty sure it was removed for everyone, as they increased the points required by 10x.
What happened was that some people had finished the event and others had started the event without finishing it, and the replacement event wouldn't allowed you to earn the rewards twice. Though if it partial completion of the original event allowed partial completion of the new event to get the correct final rewards I do not know 🤔 I'm asleep for the first 4-5 hours, so I miss out on the fun 😬

wintry tundra
abstract gate
ember walrus
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Odds are odds. You can get 7 luckys in a row or never get them. Unless scopely is doing weighting that we can't see

ripe jungle
ember walrus
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Odds per pull theoretically dont change. So over a large enough data set we could figure out the odd of the premium pulls lucky chance. Or prove/disprove the ultra stated numbers

robust vapor
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You'd need hundreds of pulls to get an estimate.

ember walrus
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Yes we would if not thousands depending on the chance

viscid sinew
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One thousand to be near statistical significance

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And yes, the more the better

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If you measure chances in one in a thousand, obviously you need more

ripe jungle
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Nah much more. For an epic lucky you only expect 10 per 1000 chests. You could easily be off by 4 or 5 in either direction.

robust vapor
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5% chance for a lucky pull.

ripe jungle
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1% for epic lucky though

ember walrus
robust vapor
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Oh, you want to look at distribution also 🤔

ripe jungle
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If you just wanted lucky pull regardless of epic or rare sure a thousand might be good enough

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If you wanted to check if all the officers are actually equally likely god knows how many you’d need 😂

robust vapor
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Around 400 should be plenty as far as data points, if you wanted to break down down by rarity I guess.. 8k chests should do it.

ember walrus
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Per officer is basically impossible due to maxed out rares and epics converting to patterns

ripe jungle
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I mean if pike, Kirk, kras etc are actually equally likely to be pulled

robust vapor
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Pike was harder to get historically for other reasons 😬

ember walrus
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Unless fresh accounts with $$$$$$$ dumped for pulls

ripe jungle
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They’d probably max out their rares before getting enough data points 😂

robust vapor
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You don't do it as an individual.

ripe jungle
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Yup that way would be impossible

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Need like a thousand people to pull a few dozen chests

ember walrus
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And trusting a thousand individuals to give you accurate data means you need probably 3x that for error correction especially on the internet

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And that is being optimistic

robust vapor
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If you can't trust people then better not to do it 😬
Assuming you want to look at full pull officer distribution also.. about 40k should do the trick.. otherwise 8k should be fine.

ember walrus
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Its not i dont trust people. Its good data collection to assume you will get bias in reporting and look for it

robust vapor
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And if you're adding 80k extra results to account for that then it's probably not work bothering with 😂

ember walrus
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Probably not

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But in the case of this game 80% of what we see is complaining so even that could be skewing the perception

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Well off to sleep be safe and shield up

robust vapor
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Of course it is, as is the natural condition to notice things more when they don't go how you want them to.

viscid sinew
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Scopely surely have this data already, they keep track of all aspects of the economy for statistical decisions on what to change etc... Like this ultra chest event, I would be willing to bet a beer that they saw that a good portion of the player population had saved up ultra chests, some in extreme amounts, so they wanted to cull the chest reserves. Many other events are decided like that.

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They don't want too many to save too much ... they want to control and direct the economy and store purchases.

ripe jungle
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Nah. Some people have so much in reserve they wouldn’t even notice 8 or 10 chests

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Besides which they ended up running events to give enough ultras to finish the event.

slow sedge
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Does anyone remember how many borg stonn shards were we given in the last armada event?

ripe jungle
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I believe it was 60 shards for completing everything, so armada event alone should be 13 maybe? 11 from meta event, 32 from resource spend, 4 from the little 3 pointers.

summer raven
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Anyone idea what the bracketing is for the son of mogh worf shards SLB?

tidal storm
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Scopely…why no I Augur cloaking refit in event store ?

dapper moss
weak jackal
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Any update regarding the compensation Parsteel from last weeks ticketed event that was promised on Monday ?

rigid coral
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If scopely needs longer with the compensation for the Joint Operation Event, I want an additional compensation for the compensation 😅

hardy parcel
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weren't we supposed to get the Joint Operation chest yesterday?

floral trail
floral trail
finite canopy
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Any idea what is the next event coming this evening?

summer raven
thin pagoda
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Gonna miss 4 of 10 because I’m out of Ultra Recruit tokens….. please let me know where I missed this event noted in your guide because I spent my ultra tokens on other events not knowing this was coming? Kinda screwed now by 2 chests and can’t complete the event

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Saw the 8 event, didn’t see a ultra chest one

desert laurel
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subject to change

uneven peak
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It's not in the description. It was added last minute because of the complaints about the difficulty of the material spend event

thin pagoda
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Then they should have gift chested some ultra chest tokens for those who now lose out on 8. Yes 8 shards to finish the event

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IMO

desert laurel
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Comp chests are for mistakes, this was a design decision, and there'll be winners and losers in a design decision. They probably won't gift a chest, so your options are to find a way to get more ultras or to give up early

fathom shuttle
thin pagoda
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I do not unfortunately. Use those to buy credits already but thanks for the idea

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@fathom shuttle

indigo perch
rough sandal
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1 ultra chest short for the event, was wondering what I missed (think I even completed a mission that awarded 1000 tokens too)

desert laurel
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loyalty tokens, allegiance tokens, Origin missions, Combat training, and alliance tokens are some of possibilities

indigo perch
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With the stonn change Scopley screwed over @nova valley, at least his reputation, even more than the rest of us since we followed his recommended formula. I'm angry at scoplet but I pitty @nova valley

eager hollow
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I don't see why people are completely do the daily events, there were more than enough ultra awards in the last 48 hrs to complete stonn and the domination and the resource deployment. Literally win win win.

indigo perch
bitter snow
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some of it depends on ops, lower ops players wouldn't have had high enough rewards

eager hollow
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Double ship xp event last night not help?

bitter snow
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and I've never seen a station daily SLB so hotly contested 😂

ashen wharf
indigo perch
ashen wharf
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if you are on a old server there was not event that gives ultras

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they removed those from old servers

eager hollow
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Which servers would you call old?

desert laurel
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they still have research ones?

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and station?

bitter snow
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about 2.5 pulls between them last night?

indigo perch
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Nope. I got up to do them.. there were no ultras

ashen wharf
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those dont give them either i posted pics last night one gave maybe like 400 ultras for the station one

eager hollow
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48hrs of events i earned enough to do them pkus officer heroic today without faction credits

ashen wharf
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old server is 3 years

desert laurel
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what rewards does the research one running right now give you?

bitter snow
ashen wharf
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yeah we dont get those

indigo perch
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I did research this morning and got one pull. Station was 0, double ship event was 0

ashen wharf
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we get double ship upgrade ones that give par and ore

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lol

bitter snow
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weird

eager hollow
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What about 30 day chests? You can get some there

indigo perch
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And 4 star mats

indigo perch
bitter snow
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You have 4* in the daily events? (not recruit - those are new and I know have 4* post 40)

ashen wharf
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this is the only one that still gives ultras but its nothing and not worth doing

indigo perch
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Yep those are the only ones and I completed them, i did it to top off another ultra pull but that's all

desert laurel
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not worth doing the only source of ultras? that's pretty bold

indigo perch
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Used up all armada starts completing the 1st one

ashen wharf
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im not going to waste 3k uncommon to get maybe 1/2 a ultra pull

desert laurel
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do the limited station then?

ashen wharf
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we dont get those

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or it gives mats

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cant look atm

indigo perch
eager hollow
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@ashen wharf fair enough if thats your situation that is a tough one

desert laurel
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wasn't responding to you, stay mad listed a pic that was station

ashen wharf
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this is our limited officer one

eager hollow
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@desert laurel have you got a good link for missions? Specifically where does the mission unstoppable start? Asking for a friend

desert laurel
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but does your server also reward ultras in your 12h station one? @indigo perch

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there are different kinds of rewards for station & limited station, some have ultras, some do not

ashen wharf
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old servers are forgotten and we have to save for months to get the same as new servers

desert laurel
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this is my daily event schedule, mushroom'd events are recruit rewards

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your server may be different, but it's worth making one for your own scheduling needs

ashen wharf
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its why when i see cc's say
"new people can get to level 30 in less than a month"

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its because new servers have it easy

eager hollow
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Officers wont get you to level up quicker, they change different things

desert laurel
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you can't be placed on an old server without doing it yourself

ashen wharf
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yeah i dont even think we have any new people just alt accounts

eager hollow
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Also don't old server packs have 10 times the reserves as newer servers?

indigo perch
ashen wharf
desert laurel
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old servers have had months more of ultras to have collected, and events to earn alliance tokens

ashen wharf
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i used to do the ship xp daily events but they've been gone for like a year now

indigo perch
cunning radish
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Did people say there’s a $20 or $30 modulator pack to go from t8 to t9 frank or was that my imagination

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Because I only see a $160 pack for it

dapper drum
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do you have prime packs pack?

bitter snow
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Not a mod pack, the Frank A BP pack

eager hollow
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@ashen wharf i don't doubt you i find it strange scopley would rekove ship xp events. Some changes cause more hassle than its worth

dapper drum
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I miss the ship xp spend events

cunning radish
dapper drum
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the mat spending ones for pittance of ore and par is a joke

ashen wharf
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yep

cunning radish
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Ops 35 maybe?

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I’m 34 atm

bitter snow
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It's not an always on, so you'll need 35 and a relevant event

cunning radish
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I can’t see that tho is what im asking about

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Ah ok

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Thanks

bitter snow
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think it's usually available on sundays, sec

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It's in store now, too - tied to Threat Reduction

cunning radish
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Ok doesn’t show me. Must need 35

bitter snow
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Can't confirm the cutoff I'm afraid, but would make sense (as much as Scopely do) to be tied to the ops you can build it at

cunning radish
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Yeah

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Cheers

dapper drum
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over 100 UC3 for that is a joke, no ship other than low tier g3 common takes only 100 UC3.... always high 1000's to nearly 10k for 1 component upgrade

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I would kill to get the ship xp spend events back

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and to have the old tech events swapped for the new ones

bitter snow
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oh weird, the mat/rss ones on my server hand out 1m parsteel tokens 18 for a 12 hour and 37 for a 6 hour

thin pagoda
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Funniest part is that we won’t be able to score those 4 of 10’s shards anywhere else. So u get screwed here…. And for a longer period until they add those shards to a player chest

cunning radish
dapper drum
desert laurel
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4 of 10 shards will be in the end of arc event store

dapper drum
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also packs

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so more than 1 way

cunning radish
bitter snow
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So, is Borg Barot going to be 11/10?

desert laurel
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I'd guess 0

thin pagoda
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Sure. Buy … um no. Supposed to be able to score him free. It’s in the description of the arc

bitter snow
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Or was he just smart enough to run faster?

dapper drum
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he is klingon

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so probably jumped on one of the borg weapons

desert laurel
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tech and science guys like to start counting from 0

bitter snow
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Didn't help Gorkon 😂

dapper drum
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gorkon didn't get assimilated

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kras and azetbur did

hardy parcel
bitter snow
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oh, is that Kras?

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aah

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he's pretty hopeless, fair

dapper drum
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you are so far behind its not even funny enough to troll

thin pagoda
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Would’ve been easy if I knew not to spend my ultra shards.

cunning radish
bitter snow
thin pagoda
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It’s fine, just disappointed. More the principal

hardy parcel
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It's common sense to keep a stock of pretty much everything. Now you know

bitter snow
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Wiseass is not an attractive look 😂

thin pagoda
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Well running a ultra chest event right after a shards event is pretty week. I woke up yesterday. .. completed the shards challenge. Then find out a ultra shard challenge has been thrown in. Just weak IMO

vapid cairn
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There seriously needs to be more tiers of spending versus 20,50,100.

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I agree @thin pagoda

dapper drum
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just not the ones you are thinking

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250,500,1000,5000,10000

indigo perch
vapid cairn
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I'm only three chests away from completing it and I can't even get it even if I bought the $20 battle pass.

indigo perch
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Reminds of some performance evaluation statement , "Sets low standards and continually fails to meet them."

vapid cairn
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and I'm sure as heck am not going to spend $100 on a pack that has terrible value (faction recruit packs)

dapper drum
hardy parcel
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Chalk it up to experience and move on. There'll be other opportunities later.

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And next time you won't get caught short.

It is impossible to do every event unless you are a spender.

vapid cairn
vapid cairn
hardy parcel
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It's there as benchmark pricing - so they can legitimately say the other packs are "offers".

vapid cairn
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no other games I've played have that huge disparity though.

cunning radish
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It’s there to make other packs look good

hardy parcel
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That's true 🤣

dapper drum
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its part of the tailoring algorithm

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you just start the game and you see this pack thats 100$ and you look at it and like wtf, this 5$ pack is the same if not better

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so you buy the 5$ pack

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now you have a 20$ pack thats even better! so you buy the 20$ pack

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and it continues until you have dug the hole too deep to just get out

spark prism
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Still waiting Scopely

frosty notch
bitter snow
sonic bobcat
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according the the so called scoring 7 ultra boxes should been enough to compleate... 10 boxes later still not compleate coz average score was actually under 900

thin pagoda
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Basic math. At 1650 a chest is 8

ripe jungle
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Milestones were different by ops level, mine was 7.

rich coral
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Not seeing the 2x multiplier on the Stonn Worms event. Score is only increasing by 2330 for L38 worms. Is there a system restriction? Currently in Mal'Tahn.

desert laurel
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are you tracking by the score in the event card, or the toast popups?

rich coral
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Score card and calculator

desert laurel
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delayed scoring? otherwise it's a bug

rich coral
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I'll try a different system. I seem to remember something like this happening in the past.

wide sage
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Same for me in the lvl 27 systems

desert laurel
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I probably won't even bother with worms, reg hostiles work here

ember walrus
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Why bother with worms for stonn anyway your normal hostiles are probaly better efficiency

wide sage
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Yep, regular hostiles work okay 👍

ember walrus
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Now for completing both bp and stonn events at once maybe

abstract gate
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In all i will miss 1 part of rhe borg ...that means i will stop playing this liar game

twilit gulch
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But the armada-part is completely 💩 again 🤬

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At least make it with eclipse

shrewd knot
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Bonus points for worms is not counting.

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it's not even surprising anymore that they can't get simple things right. unless it's with the store.

drifting bridge
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More worms? Sigh scopely. Just sigh

frozen roost
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Math is hard ....

2 x 1440 equals 2880

2 x 1440 does not equal 1440.

Surprise, another broken event.

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Could one of the super awesome <@&509691205798592532> pass this along? Please and thank you.

lost tide
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Stonn worm event isn't scoring correctly. I agree. I've killed a 41 and a 39 and only scored 10.42k

nova valley
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acknowledged. i've verified as well. it's been escalated! stand by for updates 🙂

frozen roost
abstract gate
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So this arc…..you guys think we are made of directives, resources and recruitment chests?

nova valley
abstract gate
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Without changing it to a ultra recrut event i finished so i dont thanks liar

mint idol
nova valley
mint idol
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Aah yes the launch gift boxes 👍🏻

abstract gate
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But no ultra recrut tokens

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For this i miss the officer

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I had enough rss to get him

nova valley
abstract gate
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I know i save my money in future for steam 😂 😂 👍

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Never a single cent

frozen roost
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If Scopely gives rare directives for free. There's probably a reason why... Always save.

nova valley
hardy parcel
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the only thing I buy in this game now is the battlepass and even then only once in a while.

Save Everything! you don't want to get caught short if a new event comes up.

nova valley
abstract gate
frozen roost
nova valley
abstract gate
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Hmmm why stay a folder after deinstal and the files cant be delated?? Even with admin rights .....pops up ....sill in use cant ve delated.....

covert spruce
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Did anyone get the chest that scopely promised with the missing rss and mats from the war preparation - joint operations event? (The one with steel and ore as rewards)

abstract gate
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No ...is a nother lie

west ingot
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where is my steel??? Eternal Monday in the world of scopely? 🤷‍♂️

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abstract gate
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They dont say what monday ...maybe 2032 ?

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They hope u forget

brave chasm
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Problem with another “save x for y” thing it adds another thing to sit on in case at some future point there’s an event that uses them like. I’m sitting on trait xp for that reason, could they be more events that use it like launch? Probably not but I don’t know so I’m stuck between using them or then spending them and next month if this happens again the “oh well you should have saved them” comments will be out again.

nova valley
abstract gate
nova valley
# abstract gate Save up….the worf event wiped me out before the stonn one even started. The hero...

yeah save up. if you chose to do worf, then we shoulda started with "look at this milestone. i'm gonna have to do this twice, AND spend 100 bucks or place in an SLB"
do you normally place in SLB's? do you wanna spend 100 bucks? if the answer to both of these is no, then we could have decided to skip worf and focus on Stonn.

then stonn rolls around. and we see the mats milestones. same question "can i do this twice?"

NOW that said, the ultras thing was definitely a surprise. and WHY i find it to be a legit complaint. and why i'm fighting to push through a plan to help out players who missed the ultra milestones.

however, i have zero sympathy on directives or mats. those were plain as day on the day of the event launch.

terse summit
nova valley
# terse summit This advise only makes sense when there's more than a week between announcing th...

where did i defend it? lol there is zero doublt in any players mind that ultras are a currency you shoudl have been svaing. THAT SAID, i'm totally on board with the complaint of them pulling the rug out from under players who were PLANNING a mats spend. i've never said otherwise. and beore you say i'm defending it, you better be prepared to back that lie with some evidence. which you won't find lol

that said, with regards to directives and mats, i mirror my previous statement.

terse summit
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You are defending by saying "you guys are spending them too quick", "they are sourced by daily events" etc. - yes, they are. And you save them either for daily SLBs or for arc events when you know in advance they are coming. If not, you go back to one and spend them on daily SLBs. I'd like to see the calculation where any one could have saved enough ultra tokens within days for this event

abstract gate
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Lets be honest this event has been a bit of a shambles, hence for request for feedback, then rather than lower the requirements etc for some events completely ignored it. No point asking for feedback, offering apologies but ignoring it and the fan base that keep the game going. This arc has been one big money grab from the off imo

terse summit
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You are basically blaming the players that participate in any of the scopely daily SLBs, for participating in game content.

twilit gulch
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Do swarm armadas count as rare armada or are those like eclipse armadas ?

celest cloud
# terse summit You are defending by saying "you guys are spending them too quick", "they are so...

It is tough, and I am no fan of the decision to switch events midway through without allowing options to complete... but since the announcement there has been one battlepass reward (=800 tokens, an extra 1600 if you are Elite BP), 4 days of dailies (=240 Ultra tokens), one domination event paying Ultra tokens (=2 full pulls at my level), 2 Limited Time station Events, 1 Limited Time Research Event, 1 regular Research event, 2 Limited Time Ship Events and one regular Ship Event, all paying out Lat and recruit tokens.

I have 2k Ultra tokens above what I had when the change of event was declared, which suggests I would have been just about ok if I had empty stocks.

This wouldn't work for people less than around Ops 38 though, as the events pay out far less.

ember walrus
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Swarm count spending directives

twilit gulch
abstract gate
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Armada evrnt finished gsve only 3 points

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Not 32

terse summit
abstract gate
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Just unlocked 410.. f2p (battlepass free tier)

abstract gate
hexed gorge
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Yay, another epic I'll never unlock 😔

abstract gate
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Me too ...no chance after scopelys zltra kidding

somber vault
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will armada respawn rate gona be adressed at any time?

abstract gate
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thx scammer team

brave chasm
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Likely they’ll be available at the end of the arc, like the last one. Bit of time to wait mind…

earnest hornet
abstract gate
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u are dreaming ...

somber vault
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oh yes that help lots of them now

earnest hornet
celest cloud
nova valley
# terse summit You are defending by saying "you guys are spending them too quick", "they are so...

maybe you're misundestanding my statement.

REGARDLESS of this event, ultras should have always have a value. i don't mean don't ever spend them. but players shouldalways have a little backup. a bank if you will .my number has always been aroudn 20-25k. sure spend in excess of that, but recruiting offers/specials/events DO come up from time to time. you as a player should always try to be prepared for that. players do the same thng with disco recruits waiting for lorca? players did the same with TP ever since 6/10 did it's special offer that ONE time, and people still save those things.

so no, scopely WAS NOT RIGHT in what they did with the handling of this event. THAT SAID, players SHOULD ALWAYS protect themselves as best they can from impromptu stuff like this. the best way to do that is keep a little buffer.

somber vault
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why dont you make then instant. you decide how much directives and chests can be opened. this way armada events are a joke

abstract gate
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You’ve got 48 hours. In 6 hours in EU servers it’ll be silent and we’ll be running every 38 that spawns ourselves.

abstract gate
somber vault
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I have work and sleep also. I got armada packs but when I have time to play, no armadas. so i will not spend directives and buy new packs. but still rare resources

abstract gate
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Had someone last night who couldn’t understand why I was confused as to why he’d smashed the ultra chests the second they arrived, no event, no SLB, no nothing.

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in the last days i learned to hate this game so much that i stop playing

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now i build a base in X3 ...and forget this s....game

hardy parcel
onyx terrace
unborn wraith
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Now the events over any chance of adding the multi option again?

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abstract gate
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@hardy parcel adios

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molten epoch
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Does anyone know how many points are available tomorrow for heart of stonn?

ember walrus
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3 base line

hexed gorge
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3

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Depending on whether you've completed armadas in first 24hrs

molten epoch
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Damn.

thin pagoda
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Yup. Not being able to finish the UNANNOUNCED ultra challenge cost me the free 4 of 10

golden pier
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Yeah ... "Do rare or epic armadas". Along with thousand others ... and no armadas available. Great Event and tons of fun waiting for respawn. Really enjoyable.

livid garnet
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On our server, we're finding low-level Rares. You may want to try that - it's not the level you have to defeat, just starting and completing. Hope it helps

cursive heart
#

Scopely Maths again haha

fossil pond
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I don’t understand, alliance mates have unlocked stonn but I haven’t, we’ve completed same events

golden pier
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Perhaps they bought elite battle pass?

golden pier
indigo perch
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Comp chest received.

stuck geode
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Waiting waiting waiting... Waiting for spawns! singing songs while waiting for the very long respond times for armadas

jovial crest
#

Would be nice if these sort of things actually matched up

halcyon sentinel
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the text matches on mine, dont know why yours doesnt

rigid coral
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Finally the compensation arrived...

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cyan iris
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Everyone or just those that did rom?

sand pivot
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I think just rom

abstract gate
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It’s not a broken promise. If you hadn’t spent every last ultra token outside of events and everything, you would still be able to unlock him and he would be more accessible on F2P. That said there is rising pressure for them to do something because it was such a departure from the published event (with the best intentions I might add) so watch this space.

sour plaza
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Is there any news on when we will see Lorca in discovery recruitment chests again?

abstract gate
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I live in hope.

sour plaza
# abstract gate I live in hope.

Same here, been saving recruit tokens for a while now. I know I'll open them all and get like 3 shards, but I wanna open them.

abstract gate
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They’re the one currency I haven’t saved because I’m dying for spore drive parts 😂

sour plaza
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Well thats the other reason, I'm sitting with 2 upgrades left to max my disco and desperate to get it done

abstract gate
#

What Ops level are you?

abstract gate
sour plaza
abstract gate
abstract gate
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That hasn’t changed.

sour plaza
abstract gate
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Some have not been able to unlock because they didn’t have ultra tokens. Others would not have been able to unlock because they didn’t have the G3 or G4, or worse, the ability to spend it.

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It isn’t cool and nobody is “excusing” Scopely, but if you think their change made it impossible to unlock F2P and as a result they broke a promise, that isn’t the case.

simple sage
abstract gate
#

Different people were unable to unlock him. A crappy situation that at least one content creator hasn’t been quiet about and is pushing them to address it.

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And, honestly…

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He ain’t all that 😬

abstract gate
#

Yes, my mining research sucks, yes, synergy is helping Stonn and not BorgStonn.

tacit pollen
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then that isnt a true comparison lol

abstract gate
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But 1.5M to 1.8M cargo, and with synergy marginally quicker.

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But it is marginally.

tacit pollen
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use borg stonn with the tribble and compare to stonn and tpring syn

abstract gate
tacit pollen
abstract gate
abstract gate
abstract gate
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I think you’re in cuckoo land if you having the wrong freely available resource means Scopely made it inaccessible for F2P.

tacit pollen
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I dont recall asking about your needs.. im just saying the pictures you posted dont reflect a comparison between borg stonn and regular stonn

abstract gate
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It was not cool, it is not fair, but it didn’t suddenly make him not available on F2P.

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But this will be the third night I’ve spent explaining to people how they could get the tokens they needed or explaining that it didn’t make it so nobody F2P could get him, and I honestly don’t have the strength for that kind of victim complex today.

#

It was not cool by Scopely to change it and make it so some servers stood no chance to get the currency they needed. Others, the only thing people lacked was commitment.

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I came out of that 48 hours with more tokens than I went in with, and bought nothing.

abstract gate
#

On another question, do we actually have enough numbers for BorgBarot?

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Which part of the agreement was based on spending G3/G4 material you do not understand? Which part of deviating from that agreement is breaking the agreement you do not understand? Which part of I cannot care less about the extra possibilities but about the original one you do not understand?

wild lagoon
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So I will end 1 shard short of 4 of ten it looks like 😂

#

Add him to the Harrison club

abstract gate
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I don’t care about they adding extra possibilities, I care about them removing the original one

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The agreement was accessible F2P. Events always have been subject to change, this was a big one granted.

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The agreement was accessible F2P under certain conditions defined upfront. If you change the conditions, you change the agreement

tacit pollen
abstract gate
tacit pollen
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Also free to play alludes to the possibility of both winning or losing. No participation trophies here

abstract gate
#

The events were published but doesn’t change that they are subject to change. Your poor resource management isn’t everyone else’s problem. For 90% this change was incredibly positive.

abstract gate
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It meant most of the player base didn’t have to burn resource however they could at the expense of planned progression to achieve a F2P officer.

abstract gate
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Yes they were.

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The officer was announced available F2P.

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The event schedule was announced several hours later.

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That announcement did not include milestones, those milestones appeared when we turned up to event day.

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I dunno if you were around here then, it was not a popular event 😂

abstract gate
abstract gate
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37

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Go ask a Lv40 what the problem was.

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I’m Ops 38. I could have done it either way, I’m sat on most of 5k uncommon now.

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The problem was F2P and 5k uncommon in the bank isn’t really something you see.

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And at Lv40, even paid you struggle to spend uncommon.

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G4 economy sucks.

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So add possibilities, do not screw up people that does their homework. It’s not so difficult!

waxen sedge
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I'm ops 42 and I wouldn't struggle to spend any uncommon. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

abstract gate
south arrow
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Maybe a level 39 will spend on a jelly ASAP but no other level will

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And it’s not just about managing ur rss you can’t plan if they change events

abstract gate
#

Most got rinsed dry in Worf event and this “accessible on F2P” officer came with very similar spend requirements.

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But here’s the catch; without trying too hard I finished that event with more ultra tokens than I started with.

#

Where are your alliance credits?

abstract gate
#

Where are your combat veteran missions?

south arrow
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Scopley doesn’t give alliance credits out often anymore

tacit pollen
abstract gate
south arrow
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You saved them like I did but the last 1-1.5 years alliance credits have decreased by 90%

abstract gate
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I’m crap at this game, I took three months out at the worst time for officer pulls (before they got even more diluted) and the Scopely RNG thinks I’m satan.

south arrow
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If you actually pay attention to events you will have noticed

abstract gate
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But I know that you keep hold of “stuff” so you can get “stuff” when you’re in a pinch.

south arrow
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If ur in a top alliance back in the day it’s easy but most people weren’t

harsh warren
abstract gate
halcyon sentinel
#

Guys harmoniusdeath will not listen to whatever you say about this, we tried last night, give up! 🤣

bronze arch
#

It was indeed a problem.

abstract gate
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One single event window. Slap bang in the middle of the ultra recruit event.

cunning radish
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Only scopely will know whether more or less people got shards after the change

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So…

harsh warren
abstract gate
#

I’ve always maintained it was unreasonable of Scopely to make it such that you had no choice but to go the second path.

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Blending it shouldn’t have been difficult.

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Halving the milestones shouldn’t have been difficult.

bronze arch
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Well i couldnt recover it, so im gonna end up short. I had materials to spend, i was ready. Didnt expect an unused mechanic to be subbed in after over a year with 2 days notice and an impossible route to gaining what was needed

south arrow
#

Some people are just paid by scopley only explanation for how some people defend scopley at all costs

abstract gate
bronze arch
abstract gate
#

Reread what I said. I agree with you.

tacit pollen
abstract gate
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There were a load of opportunities to get it, but it isn’t reasonable to expect people to do it on that notice.

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I was lucky that I’d unlocked DS a few weeks ago.

bronze arch
abstract gate
#

A 37 with the same ships wouldn’t have been able to do the two hostile captains I did.

rocky hill
#

Now imagine if the warf spend event is split as half rss spend and half ultra tokens.. where would we get that many ultra tokens now?

abstract gate
tacit pollen
#

ops 37 30 day chests dont give ultras?

bronze arch
abstract gate
#

But I get that some servers are seemingly punished on some events.

pseudo temple
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They do, 800 ultras on Ops 38.

abstract gate
bronze arch
#

Nope

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Havent done for ages

tacit pollen
abstract gate
bronze arch
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And we dont get the same payout as sub 40 for recruit tokens

rocky hill
#

Ops 41 30s dont give ultras

bronze arch
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And out targets are wayyyy higher

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And the recruit targets were higher

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And the mats spend is higher

tacit pollen
rocky hill
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I had to cash in on months of alliance credits

pseudo temple
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Everything goes south past Ops 39.

abstract gate
#

Either way, it conveniently ignores that I’ve said it wasn’t fair of Scopely, purely so you can hate on the player in front of you.

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But take it as a lesson.

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Have some stuff in the bank.

bronze arch
abstract gate
#

10 ultra chests isn’t going to transform your officers.

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Heck, 20 isn’t.

rocky hill
#

uc income post ops 40 is huge. spending 9k uc is a doddle

tacit pollen
bronze arch
bronze arch
rocky hill
#

Yes looks like you would need to do a main building upgrade for event?

bronze arch
#

If it had been a multiple score mechanic then it would have been ok. If it were gain officer shards, even with RNG on what you get, players had a dozen ways to score. Ultras were either you had enough or you didnt, and very very limited chance of getting there

abstract gate
rocky hill
#

made the f2p option very hard if you had not been saving ultra tokens, yes

abstract gate
#

What it gave with one hand, it took away with the other.

bronze arch
abstract gate
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At least you got enough lat for that 😂

bronze arch
#

No way close buddy

tacit pollen
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no he dosent

#

thats 500k lat

abstract gate
#

1 for 1 isn’t it on G4 common?

tacit pollen
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1 for 10 lat

abstract gate
bronze arch
abstract gate
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I keep blanking it out my mind because it’s an unpleasant number.

rocky hill
#

Ops 42 for example

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tacit pollen
#

my condolences

abstract gate
#

Our Lv24 has it sussed.

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Levelled up from Ops 23 the other day.

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Been Ops 23 for 9 months.

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Wins every event 😂

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Has T3 of most new epic officers.

cunning radish
#

I did the same thing

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Except now I’m 34

bronze arch
#

I cleary dont have an issue with spending money, i spend when i want and not a lot. But i can. To finish an event that was “supposed” to be F2P accessible. I would have had to buy a £100 recruit pack just for the event.

abstract gate
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More accessible than it looks like the rest of that spend event was 😂

bronze arch
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Which is the biggest issue. If im gonna spend it should be on my terms for what i want or need

bronze arch
rocky hill
#

I dont think its anything new, if you want to win events in general, dailies or arcs, you need to make sure you upgrades start and finish at the right times. apparently this now extends to officer recruits.

bronze arch
rocky hill
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Every arc has had a spend event, which repeats atleast once

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normally its a slb, in this instance it was sms to make it more accessable

bronze arch
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And the targets as they are for mats spend are not sustainable, some will say you should save and get what you think is worth it to you. Problem is all these officers are worth it, they wouldnt put them out otherwise as no one would spend

abstract gate
rocky hill
#

I think not knowing you needed to save the ultra tokens handed out in the run up events threw alot of people

abstract gate
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Yeah, and that wasn’t great of them.

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But on the flip side, we’re all so conditioned to spend stuff in events they get us value in.

rocky hill
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But its the same with the rare directives. If you are given alot of a given resource, maybe consider why, before having a blow out on it?

abstract gate
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Why were people just spending them for spendings sake?

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Oh I was climbing the wall when those landed.

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Everyone having a raremada orgy

tacit pollen
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instant gratification

bronze arch
abstract gate
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Scopely did not give you this stuff so you had loads of rare loot.

rocky hill
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Well they did, alot of speedups and rss in those 6x rare chests

abstract gate
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😂

rocky hill
abstract gate
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Player after my own heart

bronze arch
tulip owl
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BORING as hell, Rare and Epic armada event 🥱🥱🥱

rocky hill
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they have done faction credits.. which if you have just spent all of them on a load of ship BPs you could also be out of luck.

bronze arch
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Worst case, it could have been, we messed up. Here is enough ultras, we will take it on the chin and work out a backup plan in future. In case

tacit pollen
bronze arch
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There are 3 factions, there is more chance of being fair with it

rocky hill
bronze arch
# tacit pollen wishful thinking

Wishful thinking but would it have been deemed overkill by anyone. Everyone would have agreed it was fair enough and fair to all

rocky hill
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We've had instances of 2-4 allainces on same rare/epic

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I saw a armada timer start at 15:06 earlier.. someone was robbed

bronze arch
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And not to mention the fact that they messed it up when it launched and loads of people got it done for next to nothing. And others couldnt at all

tacit pollen
rocky hill
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from what I can tell. you should get enough 4of10 shards and have an excess of 12 if you did all the sms events?

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although thats with the cheaper of the paid battlepass

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so +9?

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ftp

tacit pollen
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yep

bronze arch
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So i will be 17 shards down by the end of the heart of stonn run, due to the ultra fiasco. Im currently got 104/115. 5 more to come from the armada event. Ill be 6 short. Even with completing the armada event i wont reach the meta, even if i did i would still be short

tulip owl
ember walrus
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Well dont have to have frank a just a 75 warp ship

nimble lantern
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Anyone have a screenshot of the calendar for this event (battlepass)?

ember walrus
minor crystal
lapis harbor
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Spend directives you ain’t got to finish the event so much for f2p

ember walrus
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We were given 2100 in the first 3 days only need 1600 over both events

abstract gate
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Good Morning , When begins Jellyfish bp Event ?

desert laurel
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jellyfish pursuit is not scheduled for this arc part, so don't know

balmy verge
ripe jungle
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This is a mistake right? Top ms on overflow gives premium instead of ultra tokens?

cunning radish
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maybe its diff for diff ops?

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mine also has 3350 lat

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rather than 2650

ripe jungle
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Got to be a bug, the third ms for me is ultra but not the top one

cunning radish
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ahh

ripe jungle
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Ops 29

wintry cypress
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Same for me, also Ops 29
Maybe it's not a bug (?)

abstract gate
lost tide
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The point is they gave us a roadmap for getting the officer and they changed it with too little notice. Doesn't matter whether they could have chosen something else or not. They changed the rules without giving sufficient notice and have done nothing to rectify it. In fact, have ignored all complaints.

abstract gate
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The change was a result of the complaints.

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Also, the armada thing, that ain’t on them.

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They gave out mega quantities of rare directives.

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If you spent them all before the event, well…

hexed gorge
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Not enough for worf and stonn

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So if you hadn't realised....

abstract gate
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Worf was never promised as accessible F2P.

hexed gorge
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Never said he was

abstract gate
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Worf came with SLBs, the lot.

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🤷🏻‍♂️ so what you’re saying is you don’t want F2P officers, you want free officers.

hexed gorge
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Never said that

abstract gate
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But you’re complaining now that Scopely didn’t tell you not to spend on Worf if you wanted Stonn? 👀

hexed gorge
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Where am I complaining?

abstract gate
cunning radish
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actually

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it made more complaints, but that's besides the point

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😂

abstract gate
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Don’t come in here with your reason.

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You, you, you Scopely sympathiser you.

cunning radish
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i get troll a lot too

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who knew rationality equated to troll these days

abstract gate
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I don’t think it made more complaints.

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Just made different complaints.

cunning radish
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pretty much what I meant lol

abstract gate
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The trouble is, having nothing of something ain’t a smart move. Especially F2P.

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🤷🏻‍♂️

cunning radish
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aye

ripe jungle
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I know I complained a lot when they initially did the change, but they ran enough extra and daily events to get ultra tokens to finish the new event they added.

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I didn’t even have to dip into archived missions

abstract gate
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It almost sounds like you’re saying I was right. I’ll take it. 😂

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But there were servers that didn’t get that option, because their events are similar but not quite the same.

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Which is not fair.

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It’s right that they look to make that bit right, and that’s not just me wanting some extra shards to get to T2 😂

ripe jungle
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No, I still don’t think it makes sense to save up ultra tokens. 😂

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I’ve never heard anyone articulate a good time to actually spend them lol. It’s like do all the daily events with faction recruits and save the ultras. Ok but then… when do I actually get to open them? When scopely pulls a brand new event out of their …

abstract gate
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Recruit SLB. Save em up, spend them once a month, get extra stuff with them.

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Although the more people that do that, the less times I’ll place if I do it monthly 🤔

ripe jungle
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Can’t place once a month for me. Don’t get enough ultras

abstract gate
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Every two then.

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The officers you pull out of ultras aren’t so game changing that you have to see what you got the second you get it.

ripe jungle
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I’m ten shards from pike!

abstract gate
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And you’ll get there.

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But how long you been playing now?

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Will a month really make that much of a dent? 😂

ripe jungle
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Six months. So like two months (dunno if I even get enough in that long for an slb) would be a third of my time in game.

abstract gate
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Remember you don’t need to win the SLB, just place top ten or whatever it is…

celest cloud
# ripe jungle Can’t place once a month for me. Don’t get enough ultras

An Ultra scores on average 1,000 points in a recruit event (plus luckies - expected value of those is somewhere between 200 and 300, depending on who you pull)

A faction recruit 6-pull scores 1620 on average. Most of my points come from faction boxes.

I play every other Recruit SLB and normally place top 2, unless someone is going big.

ripe jungle
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How many chests do you have to pull to get that slb spot though?

abstract gate
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Do it infrequently and maximise your return.

abstract gate
ripe jungle
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I need to check again but I thought it was much more the last time I looked

celest cloud
# ripe jungle How many chests do you have to pull to get that slb spot though?

I tend to score around 200,000 points normally, but just spend what I need, with a bit saved at the end to counter-snipe.

Today, I expect to turn in 14 ultra, 32 premiums, 111 Fed, 135 Klingon and 114 Rom recruit boxes, as well as a 7-day and 30-day chest. Along with turning in Transporter Pattersns, my max expected points is 169,000 plus luckies.

I last played in the SLB 11 days ago so would usually skip this time, but I want to turn in my shards to max Khan and Marcus 🙂

abstract gate
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Going for the strong win 😂

celest cloud
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If I skipped this one, I'd estimate scoring 255k points next time.

abstract gate
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Ours rarely passes 100k but I tend to do the ones at awkward hours.

ripe jungle
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That sounds more like what I remember. 18 ultra chests for top 3 is only 18k points expected?

celest cloud
cunning radish
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mines usually sub 100k

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rarely will be over but usually not

abstract gate
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Our server is asleep by 10pm GMT 😂

cunning radish
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yeah my one is in the morning

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i usually miss it

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if im up late enough (2am) ill blow everything then sleep

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and wake up and find out what i got lol

celest cloud
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I'm on an APAC server, so it ends at 11pm for me, but most of my server it is 9am Australian time.

abstract gate
cunning radish
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ends 7am

celest cloud
cunning radish
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brisbane

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oh wait ends 8am not 7am. its 6 hours not 5 lol

abstract gate
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I feel sorry for the Russians.

cunning radish
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why what time is theirs?

abstract gate
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Anywhere between half 10 in the morning right now and half 8 at night.

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Depending where they are.

cunning radish
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i work from home so thats fine by me

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lol

abstract gate
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Yeah, but that’s the time right now.

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Their country is literally 11 time zones long 😂

cunning radish
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indeed

abstract gate
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Half of them would be better on APAC servers for activity

abstract gate
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Im so frustrated bc the borg officer i cant get earn

dapper moss
pale lantern
dapper moss
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Scopely should compensate us for the fact that is Scopely

scenic cloud
abstract gate
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There are people putting pressure on them to do something, we can only hope.

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It gets me closer to T2 😂

scenic cloud
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"drn commies"

abstract gate
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I have still enough rss ti finish the 1 . And 2. Rss heart of stonn event ....but ultra i did have had

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Under normak condition like announced i done

frosty notch
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let me guess, this gonna be screwed with ultra recruits too?

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abstract gate
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No, he’s still an auction. I believe.

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The SMS accompanying an SLB has always been an opportunity to give people little enough of an officer that they want to get the rest.

frosty notch
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auction is another event with different scoring, i'm talking about sms

abstract gate
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Do they not run concurrently?

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Oh aye, they switched those to “power” didn’t they.

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They promise a f2p officer ..borg...and then they thinking about and decide no ...we chanche it ..by very short time ...for the reason is not f2p ....thats all thats scopely in purest kind .....liars and scammers

#

Yeah that conveniently ignores a massive chunk of why it was changed.

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Read up, edify yourself, understand that the change was based on player feedback.

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It’s a long way from a Scopely lie or scam to make it so F2P couldn’t get it. Your predicament is an unintended consequence.

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Many people were not put in the same position, and instead were put in a much better position.

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They did it for players ???? U can belive that or u can belive in alice in wonderland

hardy parcel
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They made the event far more accessible for 99% of people.

Unfortunately you failed to plan properly and are now blaming your shortcomings on others, as per usual.

abstract gate
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Unfortunately it didn’t make it easier for you. That is regrettable and people are asking Scopely to make it right.

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But it certainly wasn’t done to make it more difficult for everyone, because well, they did a rubbish job of that if that was their plan 😂

#

Spending half of the materials I needed to so I have loads left over, and spending a day’s worth of events of ultra tokens was dead simple.

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Normaly at tve end of the arc ..with succes i take same packs for Prepair for next normal events .....bur this time with the same money i have 3 new games on steam

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Well great for you.

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I do struggle to see the mentality of someone that spends for three packs but has absolutely no ultra tokens in reserve and no mechanism to get them.

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But hey. Ignore that people sympathise, ignore that it wasn’t done to punish you.

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🤷🏻‍♂️

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I find IG a better place for “aw hun so sorry x” than Discord where people have tried for days to help people that find themselves in this predicament.

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There was an event at night ....1 night before ...rekrut event and i was place 4 ...earn a lot off latinum ...for that i used all my ultra ......bc scopely dont communicate it that u now out of nothing need this for the event ...

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Uh.

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Not entirely sure that’s true.

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Recruit SLB was a few days before the event change was announced (they’re 11 days apart) and I’d recovered 9000 tokens since then completely by accident.

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Over the 48 hours the event ran I recovered ANOTHER 9000 tokens.

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There are servers that wasn’t possible on, and that’s properly underhand from Scopely.

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What u think...im do interrested on like a bag rise collapsed in china

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No idea what you’re suggesting there, but you continually repeat that it was lies and scam to stop people getting the officer but overwhelmingly the change was positive.

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The (very) vocal minority that couldn’t do it were then split between people that couldn’t do anything about it, and between people that wouldn’t do anything about it.

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The people that couldn’t, I feel genuine sympathy. Two days is short notice when your server events are not handing out the required currency.

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The people the wouldn’t, well…

shut solar
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I will continue to express that the new event formats are garbage for several reasons:

HGWorf:
1.) changing a domination or auction event to the new format encourages players to level too fast and be stuck in a position they are unable to complete dailies OR forego competing for new officer
2.) Since the new format doesn’t use officer or ship experience, it has now made those currencies almost useless

Heart of Stonn:
1.) While the idea to make an epic officer easier to get by completing SMS events is admirable, the execution was lacking.
2.) Changing one of the goals to ultra packs with 2 days notice basically made this free officer unachievable for many players, thus negating the WHOLE PURPOSE.
3.) Making 4/10 essentially free, also caps the ability to try and tier him during this arc for players who want to do so.

Solutions:
1.) Continue auction events in standard format instead of new format.
2.) To make officers easier to get, create store packs for these officers with a weekly occurrence (similar to discovery)
2-b.) Move TNG cadets into TNG only store, add some green officers to TOS/TNG officer sets

abstract gate
#

Anyone know what's the logic of having prime refinery? I have prime crystals but don't see much of a pull difference.

austere lake
abstract gate
shut solar
abstract gate
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I'm playing this game for more than an year and 50 shards short to max her

shut solar
austere lake
shut solar
austere lake
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And I prefer to work on my officers without having to save 10s of millions for events. Agree to disagree?!

shut solar
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And I use officer exp for the SMS events currently, kind of in a holding pattern

abstract gate
shut solar
shut solar
abstract gate
abstract gate
shut solar
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Just saying lol

abstract gate
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Unless you’re paying a lot and getting a lot of lat in, you’re spending a fortune on it.

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Last five or ten, maybe.

shut solar
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But that’s what I did and I’m glad I did it, max Chen is dope

abstract gate
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Back before TNG filled that pack up with garbage that isn’t even fit for away teams, it wasn’t a bad idea.

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Now I can drop 200 tokens and get no Chen. I do not fancy those odds for the 90 I’m short.

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As for the rest of what you post, fundamentally I don’t disagree other than I think running supplementary auctions WITH the SMS to unlock the officer is a good balance.

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Whales can whale, F2P can unlock an officer.

shut solar
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I also agree with Scopely trying new things, especially after listening to players feedback (which is where both of these came from)

However, they also need to address the fact they keep introducing new officers (which is great) but they are also making it possible to only get them during the arc. Which is NOT cool.

They also haven’t fixed other officers that have been pulled for over 2 years.

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TNG store should include NG cadets

abstract gate
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L O R C A

shut solar
abstract gate
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Increase the frequency you can get the TNG and TOS tokens, that will balance out the reduction on drop rate for the officers in them.

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The only officer I hear people complain about is Lorca

fathom shuttle
shut solar
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I am totally fine with making officer that are awesome somewhat more challenging to get after the arc, but they at least need to be obtainable

abstract gate
shut solar
abstract gate
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The OP nature of those is garbage.

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If you don’t have them, you’re not winning an otherwise equal fight.

shut solar
abstract gate
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Watching TOS Realtas taking Morale baby Jelly, you realise just how wrong that is.

fathom shuttle
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I am glad I maxed her.

shut solar
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Got her but not the other two

fathom shuttle
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Let's me win fights Vs enters that are 1M stronger and have same crew. Just not maxed uhura xD

shut solar
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Either way, introducing new officers and then making them unobtainable is bad

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Tiering new officers up with current obtain rate will take until level cap is 150

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If the game lasts that long

ripe jungle
abstract gate
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That was 160 down the can.

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If it was one in every 6 chest pull guaranteed plus luck, 38k of my lat would go straight into it.

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But it’s not. It’s one in every maybe six, six pulls.

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So I’m staring down the guts of 230k lat.

ripe jungle
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Ha, I’m only 30 shards behind you 😛

abstract gate
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No thanks.

abstract gate
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I mean, I do nearly have Gaila maxed which is nice.

ripe jungle
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I got one shard to r4 for gaila. But my ng cadets are closer than you 😂

abstract gate
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It’s kind to me in other areas

ripe jungle
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I just pulled 44 uc gas from the refinery 😛

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The little pleasures of life in the 23rd century

abstract gate
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Nice pull.

ripe jungle
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If only they were all like that 😂

dapper drum
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I get 30 to 70 UC3 quite often

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almost once a day

shut solar
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Hey there DP

dapper drum
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waves two fingers "this is not the person you are looking for"

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why did you guys have to get chummy with trin, I haven't been able to go around joy killing your 0's

shut solar
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😂🤣

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Cause we like you guys

dapper drum
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said no one ever on dunsel

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ok well maybe a few

shut solar
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😂🤣

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Gotta go, just wanted to provide feedback and see if Scopely pays attention to it