🏆-event-chat

[stark needle]

Should have never changed it in first place, I wouldn’t have spent mats last week on an event that would be impossible for me to finish. I’ve been saving to try and compete in ISS jelly event, such a waste, can’t just change things half way through to make it impossible

[ashen wharf]

Always has been

You all will still give them money tho

[hexed lark]

I just baught 8 ultra chests and game only gave me 2 wt.f??????????

[tulip holly]

You should only be able to pull one chest at a time, right now.

[calm thicket]

I am really starting to get annoyed at this "even not counting the progress, spend thousands of res, we'll cancel it and give you 5 shards instead" just spend some alliance points to get last 3k points for Stonn, add them event completed, but no shard rewards.

Seriously...

[hexed lark]

Doesn't mean I shouldn't get what I pay for in the alliance store

[main spindle]

How do you expect me to get 4k more ultra recruit tokens to finish

They should have done a faction hunt before this event

[frosty notch]

this ofc )

[main spindle]

But instead u think free to play people can just come up with 8400 ultra recruit tokens to do this event with short notice w.t.f

[elder acorn]

It is ridiculous, as an f2p Player i have to plan Events. This Change was to Close to the Event, so there was No Chance to spare or collect ultra Tokens for it. If it IS necessary to complete all milestone to get the Offizier, then this would be a slap in the face.

[calm thicket]

How many stones shards you guys have in total as of now?

[frosty notch]

91

[main spindle]

90

[faint cave]

Are people going to be short 2 shards after this event? I placed top 25 in my SLB and will be 113/115 once I finish today’s events

[frosty notch]

one more event should be tomorrow

[arctic wave]

It’s day 1/5….

[main spindle]

I'll probably be short 13 or more shards short

[frosty notch]

or even two more )

[calm thicket]

the last batch of 8 did not counted for me, and I am angry

event completed, stuck at 100 in total

[junior jewel]

Guys, the ultra recruit for lvl39 requires us to open 88 chests to get the sms done?

[slim apex]

So bekomme ich den stonn nicht komplett wenn ich 13k Punkte benötige bei der Rekrutierung. Totaler Mist ist das obwohl es hier hieß das man stonn komplett bekommen könnte aber so nicht.🤬

[vernal ember]

No. Restart your app.

[arctic wave]

There was an over abundance of stonn shards. You could miss a couple big milestones and still unlock. Reading people, reading.

[junior jewel]

Thx

[frosty notch]

but not one that gives you 8 shards 🙂

[ripe jungle]

More like you could miss a couple of tiny milestones on the 3 point events

[calm thicket]

Nothing to read about it. As I said, I needed 3k points, bought the ultras with alliance points. Finished the milestone, event completed, but there was no claim reward hence the 8 are missing

[main spindle]

Ur missing the 8 shards if u cant complete the last milestone for ultra recruit event and 5 shards for not completing all the events for heart of Stonn part 2 SMS event

[main spindle]

So u will be Missing 13 shards

[calm thicket]

I give up😆

[worthy gull]

there's still more heart of stonn events coming up

[arctic wave]

You telling me with 4 days of stonn events to come you can’t find the 8 shards? Sounds like a personal problem.

[worthy gull]

doomsday oct 19, armada assault oct 19-20, indiscriminate attacks oct 20

[elder scarab]

Well 💩

[calm thicket]

I don't know, 2 lvl 38's as me have 108 shard in total, I have 100 but never missed a milestone trough the old event. I know know today I did not got a clam reward from the last milestone

[arctic wave]

Easiest epic unlock ever

[worthy gull]

eh, that's like saying the base 911 is the cheapest porsche

[elder scarab]

I didnt finish the event, no 1650 points AND i get no extra shards

[worthy gull]

still spent a ton of mats, and ultra recruits on short notice

[main spindle]

@worthy gull ok but its a points thing theres a certain amount of events for the sms if u miss one u lose shards

[arctic wave]

I had to blow 15k g3 mats to get borg tpring. Yall are getting this one for cheap

[main spindle]

Simple as that

[worthy gull]

agreed - still gotta finish all the events. but i'm pretty sure there will be more than 8 shards in those 4 events. point being - today is not f2p unlock day

i got honorguard worf for less

[arctic wave]

Thank you!

[worthy gull]

honorguard worf was just a couple of guns

this is a lot more time/resources

don't get me wrong - i don't mind the hostile hunting grind...that's way easier than hoarding mats/recruits

just saying - not clear cut that this was easiest than all others

esp given the curveball thrown at the 11th hour

[ember walrus]

I managed it with f2p no freaking clue how but i did. I am an exception that is proving the rule

[worthy gull]

i still maintain, best solution would've been to either a) lower mats costs for resource deployment, or b) do a ticketing system where you pick either recruits or mats spending

heck, extending bonus refinery from 1 day to 2 days (like i also pitched) would've been infinitely better than this clusterf@#!$

btw, ticket idea was not mine. wish i could give credit...but i read it somewhere here

shout out to whomever had that brilliant idea

[arctic wave]

A wise man once told me, “A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.” If you’ve played this game for more than 6 months you should know that scopely will constantly move the goalposts when they feel like it. Do you people spend every dollar between paydays too? (Don’t answer that please 😂)

[main spindle]

@worthy gull even if somehow I get 8 shards ill still be missing the 5 shards from the heart of Stonn part 2 main SMS event

[stoic nova]

Anyone do the ultra recruit prior to change? I did the 7 chests and now the change happens but no credit for chests I opened. In total have opened 11 chests with 9600 score. So random. But def not what I earned.

[tribal narwhal]

I am one ultra token short...

[stark needle]

Yup I opened 2 chests, should have 3300 points, only have 300 @stoic nova

[worthy gull]

agree on hoarding - but not for ultras. to date, there has never been an ultra recruit event like this (let alone one that was only for ultras - all other recruit events have been for any method of recruit)

for those fishing for 5 of 10 or 10 of 10, ultras (and premiums) are the only way to unlock

and not exactly profitable / progressing to hoard ultras/premiums on the hope that scopley would invent a new event type

[arctic wave]

Not an event this style. But 2x events for new officers come around regularly. Clearly they queried the servers and felt this was easily achievable to the majority

[worthy gull]

a) 2x events haven't happened in a loooooong time, and b) 2x events were never profitable to hoard for

i think lorca was the last 2x event? so what was that? last year?

[arctic wave]

I mean they gave out 2k in rare directives and people were still amazed there’s an event that required you to spend them so….

[worthy gull]

sorry - but with covid - everything seems like a lifetime ago....but honestly, it's been a while since the last 2x event

[livid garnet]

They did tell us that saving your Ultra chests would be helpful, but IMHO should have given us more than 2 days to accomplishe the necessary "hoarding"

[stoic nova]

Did you try Resetting app? It was giving me diminished points but resetting at least shows 1650 not old 150

[stark needle]

Many times

[arctic wave]

There was a 2x lorca for disco recruits around the end of TOS and there was 2x for the new mining officers in the first or second month of TNG

[ripe jungle]

The change was idiotic. For my bracket at least, the material spend events were covered by the income from this month alone.

[worthy gull]

2x new mining was on the mining recruit token, not ultras

and you're right 2x lorca was on disco recruits, not ultras. so when was the last 2x ultra event?

[arctic wave]

Oh and that new domination event “dominance” payed out….. wait for it…. ultra recruit tokens

[worthy gull]

right

but most people will double/triple up on station event with dominance...so...taht means you're still spending mats/speedups

[arctic wave]

There was a 2x run on ultras before they switched to the mining recruit tokens. I got a bunch of DuPont shards from it

[ashen wharf]

But did it give out 10k ultras

[worthy gull]

haha

not looking for 10k payouts....just fair play 🙂

[ashen wharf]

Ultras are hard to comebye for most people lol

[worthy gull]

pretty much the only reliable source is dailies

[ashen wharf]

yeah some people have lives tho

[worthy gull]

and you get 2/3rds a pack from a 12hr daily and 1.5-ish from a 6hr daily

[hardy parcel]

and the alliance store.

[worthy gull]

that's only if you're lucky to be ain a top 1-2 alliance

[ashen wharf]

if your alliance is top 🤣

[worthy gull]

if you're in a 6-10 alliance, forget it

25 alliance creds reward per event don't buy you bunk

that's why fishing for 5 or 10 has been so hard

[hardy parcel]

they do if you've been playing for 3 years lol.
wait. you have more than 5 alliances on your server??

[ashen wharf]

Lol

[worthy gull]

?

[ashen wharf]

3 years baby!

[worthy gull]

you don't?

[cunning imp]

Same here. I contacted support and sent them the screenshot. Let's hope they'll fix it.

[worthy gull]

we have 8 alliances > 1b power

3 > 1.5b

[hardy parcel]

wow, new server?

[worthy gull]

no, old one

[hardy parcel]

good player retention then, we've dwindled to but a shadow of that

[worthy gull]

let's just say...our server number is in the teens

[vernal ember]

There's no need to be secretive about server 13.

[ashen wharf]

Dang

[hardy parcel]

only our top 3 are over 1b. oustide of the top 5 it's like 400m

[ashen wharf]

Our server is still kinda active

[hardy parcel]

but we are getting merged "thoon" which should solve that 🙂

[ashen wharf]

But were like slowly dying out past 7th alliance

Merges are the worst

Id rather keep playing in a dead server than merge

[stoic nova]

Well at least you’re only 2 in. I’m 12 in. 9600. BS

[abstract gate]

I’m looking forward to it.

A whole bunch of new people to educate on why RoE doesn’t work 😂

[ashen wharf]

Roe does wonders

for us anyway

having a chaotic server is just asking for

Drops in player activity

[abstract gate]

Ours still thinks the minute warning is to give people time to refresh the node.

It’s quite cute.

[barren bramble]

So the only customer support contact I can find doesn't accept ss, what's the general email for them?

[vernal ember]

There isn't an email. You have to contact them through the Help section in game.

[barren bramble]

It won't take ss

[livid garnet]

Copy the SS and paste it in your message

[barren bramble]

ty I'll try that

[somber flame]

How many points are you supposed to get on each pull?

I have done like 8 pulls so far, thought I was done but apparently not.

[worthy gull]

looks like you did 7

1650 * 7 = 11,550

[livid garnet]

It's 1650 per pull now - takes about 9 pulls to complete

[carmine lily]

Why only one ultra chest at a time? Is scopely afraid multiple pulls will break the event?

[somber flame]

Just did two more and I did not 1650 it gave me like 450

[worthy gull]

yikes

you got scoplied

[livid garnet]

Send a ticket to Scopely

[carmine lily]

Oh I see the ticket above

[stark needle]

You got a reply already?! I’ve been waiting over 30 hrs for reply….

[cunning imp]

I'm still waiting for an answer from support.

[somber flame]

I had that many plus bought 2 more in alliance store.

[violet plinth]

I just imagine the flood of tickets they got... support team must really be well paid eheh

[unreal vortex]

Anyone had any updates from when it was only 150 Points and now there stuck? did X3 pulls now stuck on 450 points

[stark needle]

Same here, waiting for response to my ticket

Many of us in same boat

[unreal vortex]

aa sucks ty @stark needle

[barren bramble]

By the way Scopely, making us finish two events instead of one doesn't "give us more options"

[gray ravine]

For the love of God scopely, stop putting out events that are impossible to complete if you aren't in the exact right position in the game! Events should be achievable! If you don't have ultra pulls, you're screwed since that's the only option to complete the event. This arc is doing me in. No more money to scopely from me

[barren bramble]

Yeah I stopped even doing elite bp some months back effem

[rotund violet]

Sad thing is, the calendar and plan for this arc was SO good. SUCH an improvement. Then they pulled a classic Scopely and decided to change things last minute and screwed everything up in the process because a few people complained. Just so stupid

[barren bramble]

They're used to people complaining, don't believe for a second they were trying to "help" anyone.

If that were the case they would've combined the old and new scoring in same event

[rotund violet]

Sure, but those people complaining were the scapegoat this time. They could say "We heard your feedback! Now here's how we're gonna screw you!"

[dusty lodge]

Scopely has to learn that giving rewards so people keep playing it's about making us do stuff so we wanna access everyday, not making impossible events so we either give up or have to do so much that we need a break afterwards

[oblique cave]

Can we unlock 4/10 if we can't complete the ultra officer recruit event?

[dusty lodge]

I asked before as well and I think no one knows for sure

[brittle mason]

Don't ask scopely, how the hell they should know that?

[weak copper]

Afaik you still have to complete all SMS events for a guaranteed unlock

[dusty lodge]

GiVinG pLaYerS mORe oPtIonS

Bullshit

[cunning imp]

Yes I think so. It's supposed to be an additional option for those who don't have enough mats to complete the other event. At least that's how I understood the announcement.

[weak copper]

So you may end up a few shards short if you can’t do the ultra recruit event, but there’s always the event store at the end of the arc

[leaden plume]

Not completing recruit event. Did half along with other stuff and unlocked it, screw the extra shards, not being forced to buy when people who pulled early completed the event in one pull. Wont pay for incompetence. 2x changes to live event mid event….complete horse💩

[dusty lodge]

The announcement did say that those events that were split would account together for the same ammount of shards, so I read it as "you have to do them all" but not sure

[oblique cave]

Im 22 short, feel like you still need to complete all events

[hardy leaf]

Who is running this game... a 6 yr old child?

[oblique cave]

6 year old is far more intelligent

[shell eagle]

All these issues and of course Scopely has been VERY QUIET!!

[oblique cave]

I like how they said evebys can't be changed mid arc. Yet so this with 2 says notice and only channel was dj initially

[sonic swan]

This arc has been a total shambles

Shame on you scopley

Events that most cant complete and mess up ones people can complete so then they can't, points not counting for res spent its been a complete shambles

[stark needle]

When will we get some answers scopely? @keen ledge

I see others are getting tickets answered about other issues, but I’ve been waiting over 30 hrs for ticket response.

Spent 2 pulls on epic recruit chests, and my scoring hasn’t been updated.

These last minute changes are so disappointing, I wouldn’t have spent mats last week if I had known I wouldn’t be able to finish the event this week, been saving G3 for months to try and compete for ISS jelly. Really unfair to change this stuff after the fact

[sonic swan]

I just spent a ton of 4star yet shows 0 in event

Same happened last stonn event too

[pine raft]

No

At least according to descriptions provided... Unless you buy the big BP

[sonic swan]

All aimed at making people spend to complete very underhanded

Not happy and 0 support when filing tickets honestly the whole support system is a total joke

[pine raft]

No it is not... It's supposed to halve the requirements of the UC/armada event

But you have to complete both

Or all of them to be more precise

[cunning imp]

Well that sucks.

[pine raft]

You can exchange alliance tokens for ultra recruit tokens in the alliance shop

Crappy return but may be enough to do the event

[abstract gate]

I have not enough alli token to finishe

[pine raft]

Then the elite BP is your only option. Or accept the fact that this is one Borg you will not have in your unimatrix

[abstract gate]

My mission offi 4 of 10 ends on this point. Thank u scopely for kidding ....

[lost tide]

If you have prior warning you can save your ultra recruit chests but expecting players to have 10 sets is ridiculous, especially when officer Recruit Heroic ran not long before. I had saved rss for this event. Have saved 1770 uncommon ore to go Ops 38

[oblique cave]

It's a joke. They messed up with a change of event and now many if us cant get 4/10

[abstract gate]

Evolution of STFC
F2P.........P2W .......pay2play...
Next will be

Pay to stay

[cunning imp]

Fee 2 Pay

[sonic swan]

Every event has been dependent on res and things most don't have enough of without prior warning

[merry fulcrum]

But then people won't have to drop money to do the event

[sonic swan]

Exactly

[lost tide]

They outlined exactly how we could obtain 4/10 for free. Then changed it. That's not playing by the rules

[halcyon kindle]

What feedback did people give? I certainly didn't give any constructive feedback.. they aren't worth it anyways.. They don't listen to it at all.. Like it shows with the new events

[sonic swan]

Because all the big spenders said na it's fine so they listened to them

[pine raft]

Save everything. Don't spend RSS, tokens out anything else unless it is for a reward you really want

[ember walrus]

Next change
In game unions
$0.30 to launch ship,
$0.25 per warp leg,
$2 to return to base
$1 per repair start

[pine raft]

Prioritize ships/buildings that give you credits and RSS

And remember, SCOPELY is here to make money, not friends

[sonic swan]

The cloak event was released after a lot of people had already got it so therefore couldn't complete the event

[pine raft]

There was a calendar... People should know the event was happening

[ember walrus]

In that case you should know better to grab and use the new thing in an arc before events have shown

[pine raft]

People could have delayed receiving the cloak

[abstract gate]

@ember walrus or swrver enrty token ..
One day 0,99
7 days 5,99
Month 19,99
Year............and if u dont connect ones a week u get delated

[stark needle]

This has been the biggest disappointment for me since I started playing this game shortly after launch, never felt so ready to just stop playing the game altogether. Would be hard for them to make up for it now even with some miracle chest as I’ve bent over backwards wasting speed ups and alliance credits and totally derailed a lot of careful planning in a panic to try and get more ultra recruit tokens now.

[sonic swan]

Yup

[stark needle]

And radio silence from scopely…

[ember walrus]

Hate to defend them at all its still better than TNG arc in general

[sonic swan]

Been in game a long time and agree its a huge disappointment

[abstract gate]

Check X3 is a very nice game i still start it ...have to learn so much ..but its nice

[stark needle]

I’ll check it out

[ember walrus]

or server entry token ..
One min 0,99
1 hour 5,99
2 min 19,99
and if u dont connect once a week u get deleted
Fixed for scopely pricing

[abstract gate]

Oh jehh thats right

[sonic swan]

Maybe they are just doing this so the player base drops faster and they can shut the servers down and go play with all the money they made out of us 🤣

[abstract gate]

They still play with the money insted to react on the critics they roll the biggest cashnotes and take a deep sniff white

[livid garnet]

@abstract gate @ember walrus I get the sarcasm, but guess who all of us are going to be thanking when $copely takes you up on your ideas 🤣

[ember walrus]

Oops

Then i claim ownership of this idea and want 1% of all profits from it

[sonic swan]

It's already p2p anyway

[abstract gate]

Im also on the point to stop playing this game ....

[gray ravine]

And that's it. Out of ultra recruit pulls with no way to get more and only got half way through event. Way to go scopely. Seriously good planning. Whoever came up with this idea deserves a raise. Slow clap...

[abstract gate]

How has ever analysed what the pc version of this game is doing on ur pc ?

I did ..and that is more as the have to do to make the game playable

[abstract gate]

So pls tell us, what is it doing?

[pine raft]

Much better. But TNG was a pile of 💩 (exception Picard and Beverly)

[cinder flame]

Kind of hard for Scopley to say that 4of10 is f2p, when they're making the sms p2w.
Making it so ONLY ultra recruit packs, was a money grab plain and simple. You changed the 4of10 event, what 3/4 days ago? And just after a recruit SLB.
Game was fun. Loved the alliances I played with, but I may just hang it up after going on 3 years now. It went from being a joke on how scopely loves to stick it to us, to playing a game and the game designer keep moving the goal line, WHILE the game is being played, it's a crap thing to keep doing to players

[bitter snow]

Biggest gripe I have is that, yes they "listen" but then they get completely the wrong takeaway from what they think they heard.

Lucifer after a session with the psychiatrist style 😂

Like the time, I think it was Panic? Said "yes, we have data that says that lots of you enjoy mining" and everyone said "we mine because we have to, not because it's enjoyable..."

[cinder flame]

Exactly

[pine raft]

"we have data that says that you enjoy breathing" 🤦

[bitter snow]

I don't know why I enjoy this game as much as I do, I think it's the people..

Certainly not the mechanics 😂

[cinder flame]

I LOVE games like this, grinding games, games that allow you to be in alliances, getting to know other players, part of it is I'm sure masochistic, but even players like me have limits.

[abstract gate]

You know, scopely give use the new event, cause a lot of People crying about spending *3 materials?

[cinder flame]

Gave us a new event, with extremely narrow parameters, and in a limited time frame to introduce the new event. Just after a recruit slb mind you

[reef wave]

NARROW ...... LIKE THREADING THE EYE ON A NEEDLE

[waxen sedge]

They never said he was f2p.

[amber wave]

Yeah they did, they said 100% f2p accessible

[waxen sedge]

I'd like to see that then, all I heard was that if you completed all the events (non slb) you would be able to unlock 4of10. Never that the events themselves wouldn't require any work, and/or planning, and/or (if you weren't prepared) spending.

[ember walrus]

Technically all are f2p if you somehow saved enough. Kinda like you can win the lotto with 1 ticket

[lilac wharf]

Yeah they only said obtainable if you complete all events. Nice change compared to SLB ones

[waxen sedge]

Exactly, again, I am not saying it wasn't said, but I think a lot of people heard it would just be milestone events, and made the mistake of translating that in to "easy" instead of guessing that the events would be made more difficult. Epic officers shouldn't be given out in the first go-round like candy.

[waxen sedge]

I also love the change.

[ember walrus]

Let me honest if it was only 1 epic it would have been simple 2 made it quite a pain

[cinder flame]

@waxen sedge except, they changed the events. And not in a time frame to make it where you could stockpile in time. I was able to get enough mats needed for another sms auction. I went for a slb recruit event, only to have them change the 4of10 event after, and like 3 days before this one cycled thru, so there went the f2p road for 4of10.

He was f2p before that. Now players gotta scramble, or drop 100-200 bucks for an event that wasn't there to begin with

[ember walrus]

I personally dropped 0 on tokens saved mine expecting an officer event sometime soon

[oblique coral]

It was a great idea, it required planning - but people planned and then they moved the goalposts.

That's just mean.

[cinder flame]

Plenty of ultra recruit shards to be had. I've got about 100k in transporter patterns alone. Why not include those?
Because, Scopley wanted to drop a 100 dollar officer trait pack.

[rustic owl]

Despicable changing event 2 days before it starts was saving since arc started for how events where planned now this has ruined everything it’s a joke

[waxen sedge]

True, I cannot defend the changing of the events like they did, but to be fair they changed them because "everybody" (the vocal minority on discord) was whining and crying about the milestones being too high.

I'm also pretty amazed more people don't hold ultra tokens, maybe scopely was surprised too.

[robust vapor]

I'd have to watch the video again, but I think the problem is that most of the information comes through CC's and the impression that I had from those sources was F2P friendly 🤔
Though I'm in track to finish mine F2P so far 🤷‍♂️

[amber wave]

@everyone Commanders, be aware that contrary to the thought a chest was coming, a back end resolution was completed that corrected point totals in the worf SLB. this was done over the last 2 days and was completed successfully.

Further, regarding today’s armada event, there was a discrepancy in the IGN that indicated this event was damage dealt. It is in fact based on defeating and starts. And hence the advice given from day 1 when rare 2100 directives were gifted for free, “hold these until they are called for, they DO have a purpose.” Hopefully these haven’t been spent already and will serve the purpose of your completion today and progress towards your FREE unlock of 4 of 10.

Also keep in mind exchange directives will not count for rares spent.

Swarm armadas will count for directive spend but not for armada defeats. Neutral armadas will count for completion.

Finally, the Armada event is 48 hours, and does NOT need to be completed today, so you have some time to get all your armadas in!

Good luck. And remember to eat your broccoli today. - DJz

From DJ

Free unlock of 4 of 10

[waxen sedge]

I think so too, and if you watched djz video at least about it you would probably come away with the feeling it was going to be easy as that's (to my recollection) how he framed it too, but he never said f2p and he probably didn't know the specifics about how much you would have to do to complete the non-slb events.

[waxen sedge]

I didn't spend any money on it?

Also that context doesn't really mean anything. There are totally free players that will unlock him, and spenders that won't without buying more packs.

[robust vapor]

I'll have to watch it again tonight😂as a now F2P player I had the impression that it was F2P friendly, but memory is a fickle thing.
Still, not that bad so far. I do think 9 ultra chests is a little steep, but will not stop me.

[amber wave]

huh

that was my point

4 of 10 is f2p unlockable

[waxen sedge]

If that was his words, he might have simply been using "free" to mean "non-auction" and if so muddied the waters.

[amber wave]

no... he meant 100% free. spend $0

[robust vapor]

Also free around here tends to mean only buying they battlepass or daily pack 😂

[amber wave]

although now, not rly 😦

[waxen sedge]

You should have known that didn't make any sense though. You can win an auction not spending anything, you can lose one spending a lot. You can complete events not spending anything, you can fail to compete others spending a lot. The only way that statement would be perfectly accurate is if we were all getting 115 shards in a gift chest upon login, and you knew that wasn't going to happen.

To be fair, the issue could be with their words, not your interpretation, but at the end of the day the result is the same.

[unreal vortex]

Any one had an update on spending tickets whilst only earning 150 points?

[ashen wharf]

People were pissed because of how freaking expensive using g3-g4 is we dont all have bulk tons saved up if you were above 40 you got freaking cleaned of all your saved mats trying to complete the events. Swapping it to ultra recruits doesnt make it any better we also only had like 2 days to get ready lol

Even 39's had it pretty rough if they pretty much dont have anything to use mats on because they know going to 40+ is a suicide mission

[calm belfry]

I finished the ultra but not resource deployment and I unlocked him already. Not sure how to be honest. I can even get an extra 22 shards + what other Events over the next 3 days

[stark needle]

Radio silence from scopely still, no reply on my ticket, but other people getting replies

[calm belfry]

I completed it when the scoring was 150 maybe can get extra shards but it's pointless to go for extra shards

[digital inlet]

What replies are others getting from scopley?

[stark needle]

Others got replies on unrelated items @digital inlet

[oblique coral]

If you completed it when the milestones were lower, you can’t “complete it again” - you won’t get anything else. You already got it all. Just be happy.

[calm belfry]

I have him unlocked not even completing the resource deployment event too

[modern estuary]

due to the heart of stonn screw up can we have a borgmada event when this arc finished and before next arc so we can buy 4/10 shards using borg war funds

[south arrow]

Shut up about fuking borgmada event that’s the worse thing to do

[swift sage]

this domination event wasn't on the calendar, was it? do we know if we have another one tomorrow too?

[desert laurel]

we had an ALB last time, so it's not running the same way already. Haven't heard either way though

[ripe jungle]

Nope. This month the uncommon income was sufficient for a f2p in my bracket to complete the stonn spend sms as originally scheduled. It was actually completely f2p until they went and changed the event with a day’s notice.

[ripe jungle]

The sms and alb was scheduled for next weekend in parallel with worf event, so hopefully this one is an addition and not rescheduled.

[cunning radish]

for a lot (esp 40+) it wasnt completely f2p

thats why they changed it...

it remains to be seen whether the change was good or bad, however

[ripe jungle]

They should have changed it for 40+ who had silly milestones.

For the rest it was.

Maybe for 39s who didn’t want or couldn’t jump up too, but everyone else should have been fine

[desert laurel]

low 20s also had unreachable MS

[keen mist]

How many borg stonn shards should we have if we're current on events?

[ripe jungle]

Does anyone know if there will be another run of display your dominance tomorrow? The current one is unscheduled so did they add it to source some ultra tokens?

[fast hedge]

WTF Scopley?? Is it not enough to discourage people with the pay to cloak-events, now you must destroy the free to get- Stonn as well? Just make everything p2p and stop the false advertising!

[tulip raptor]

So the meta event says the recruit event should award 28 points in the meta. Finished the recruit. Definitely not 28 points

[oblique cave]

Lots of people have unlocked him. I have no idea why I'm so short on shards

[ripe jungle]

Should only have been 126 shards f2p after all the events (6 gifts, 60 from each of the 4 day runs). Elite pass is another 3, and if you bought $100 elite pass, another 29.

[hexed gorge]

All events so far as f2p and I'm only on 105shards

Won't be completing amarda event however, as last few events have cleared me out

[ashen wharf]

They should honestly notice other games usually let you get stuff during their events

[waxen sedge]

What's the "nope" for? You aren't disagreeing with me, lol.

[ashen wharf]

Let the spenders tier officers

Tier 1 of everything isnt that big of a deal

But scopely acts like tier 1 is godlike realities

🤣

[hexed gorge]

Tier 1 is godlike for certain officers

[ripe jungle]

I’m saying that it was generally true that f2p could unlock stonn. You would have had to not look at the schedule after it was published at all to wind up overspending your materials or armada directives without using them in the events. Even if you had had no mats and no rare/epic directives when the arc dropped you could still have unlocked stonn from that point on.

[ashen wharf]

quiet true but spenders will get everything anyway and its not like the game is balanced

If you didnt have a buttload of mats you werent unlocking stonn

[ripe jungle]

Not true for ops 29 is what I’m saying. I had just finished building and tiering my sally so I in fact did have zero crystal. I had enough crystal income to tier it again.

[ashen wharf]

takes months of mats just for this kinda stuff .

Yeah im talking about 35+

[ripe jungle]

Together with the other two plus armada directives, I could do all of stonn plus worf sms

[ashen wharf]

Players that have been playing for 3 years are always getting shafted

[ripe jungle]

Right the higher ops it may not have been balanced properly but my bracket was perfect

[ashen wharf]

never seen a game that hates their "veteran" players that are honestly truly tired of getting swashbuckled

[fast hedge]

Scopley changed the scoring to make it harder for the lower levels to get BorgStonn (which is not a must-have to begin with). That shows disrespect to the players who could have made the event if they had not changed it last Minute.

[waxen sedge]

Do you not spend any money? Because in 3 years it seems like you should have figured out this isn't a game that's very fun if you try to do it for free. You're always be seeing and hearing about stuff to do and get in the game that you'll never experience. If you can't live with that I presume there are other freenium games that are better to play.

I am assuming by your comment about 3 years that includes you, maybe not.

[ashen wharf]

Oh yeah 2019 after armada release was when i stopped supporting i kept alot of hope the game would be fun enough to play daily after work now i play maybe once or twice a week 🤣

Ive stopped thinking about getting anything at all

Just do what i can

[abstract gate]

So I had to spend 12k alliance credits, kill 2 hostile bosses (got a ton of dil to attract raiders 🤣) and spend that 800 ultra tokens from the free tier to complete the 410 recurit. Asked CS if they could do anything to give back the spent ultra tokens before the score change 12 hrs ago approximately and still no response lol.

Finally at 107/115.. me thinks I might unlock him in few days 😊 .. f2p here, not a single euro spent , not even on battlepass 😀

[abstract gate]

Last night i started playing X3 ...and now i remember what is a game...with all the shit scopely did u forgot it

[opaque bobcat]

Like really. Change the event lineup with one days notice. While providing no way to acquire the tokens needed. Thanks for nothing scopely. That includes the no response to ticket. You still suck.

[abstract gate]

The game literally falls over itself to give you ultra tokens if you don’t push too hard to begin with. Missions, combat training, ship XP daily event.

Hell it gave you a chest in the battle pass a couple of days ago.

[opaque bobcat]

Ya. And you use them for the recruit events. These idiots changed the lineup 1 day before and expected you to have the tokens saved

Have you not been paying attention?

[abstract gate]

If you used ultra tokens for Heroic Recruit (which ran after they announced the change as well!) there’s no helping you.

[opaque bobcat]

You don’t send out an event lineup at the beginning of an arc and change it one day before. That’s idiotic.

[ripe jungle]

They actually announced after it started. Besides, when would you ever use ultra tokens?

[opaque bobcat]

During recruit events. Duh.

[ripe jungle]

I’m asking @abstract gate

[ashen wharf]

you should just be using faction tokens for that

[abstract gate]

There’s no escaping this change has created a whole new bunch of losers but I think they’re wilfully ignoring that this is a much smaller subset of players than those who sat there and wondered how they’re supposed to either spend their G3/G4 or where they’re supposed to get such stupid quantities from.

[ashen wharf]

[opaque bobcat]

They announced it 36 hours before they changed what they announced two weeks ago

[abstract gate]

Faction tokens for SMS.

[ripe jungle]

Again, when would you use your ultra tokens?

[opaque bobcat]

That’s bull shît no matter how you look at it

[ashen wharf]

Yes

[abstract gate]

Ultra tokens when you’ve got dozens upon dozens of thousands for the SLB.

[ripe jungle]

So once in six months?

[abstract gate]

There was one the other week?

[ripe jungle]

You can’t win it every week

[abstract gate]

Others sit on them longer than that.

Exactly.

[ripe jungle]

Hell I don’t even get ultra tokens every week

[abstract gate]

I get them every day, what are you doing wrong?

[ripe jungle]

And if there was one the other week and you were sitting on a stock, you’d have blown it

[ashen wharf]

Yeah ive been sitting on mine for a year 🤣

[ripe jungle]

You get 60 a day or something at my level

I mean I don’t get enough for a chest

[abstract gate]

I did. I was down at zero, and still managed to do this event and have tokens left over.

So I repeat, there are some that rightfully could have had more notice on this.

[ripe jungle]

If they had done it this way from the start it would have been fine.

[abstract gate]

But while I hate the phrase “you’re doing it wrong”; if you had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and it wasn’t just a case of scraping together the last few, you are doing this wrong.

Ultra tokens are to recruiting what epic armada chests are to rewards.

[ripe jungle]

If they’re going to change it in the middle it should have just been an additional method of scoring. Materials, armada directives, or ultra chests

[abstract gate]

Pull them infrequently. Marvel in their bounty.

[ripe jungle]

They’re the only way I can get most of the epic officers

[opaque bobcat]

You’re missing the point.

[abstract gate]

Why?!

Where are your faction ones?!

[ripe jungle]

What’d you mean why? How else do you get 5 of 10?

[abstract gate]

This is just one in our alliance.

[ashen wharf]

Wouldnt it be great if you could choose what you want to get rid of for events (not ticketed events)

[opaque bobcat]

You don’t change the lineup a day before when you announced the lineup two weeks previous. That’s just ignorant

[ripe jungle]

My faction one gives me one, epic Kirk.

[abstract gate]

Mega dump of tokens in SLB.

Let me explain to you the Scopely mechanics that mean that what you are doing is bonkers wrong.

[opaque bobcat]

And for you to defend that means you are too.

[ripe jungle]

I’d rather have 5 a few weeks early than try winning the recruit slb.

[opaque bobcat]

Have a great night. /ignore

[abstract gate]

The more you pull in one pull, the more luck you have on the recruit chests.

[ripe jungle]

Haha you’re wrong.

So you know nothing of what you speak.

Stop trying to teach others.

[abstract gate]

Not wrong; best luckies come from six pulls, same with the raremada chests. Additional lucky options are available at six pulls.

[ripe jungle]

If you pull six chests at one time or one after the other, you have the exact same chance of getting a lucky pull.

[abstract gate]

You cannot pull a lucky epic from Lv34 up from single chest or double chest pulls. You can from six.

[abstract gate]

Wrong.

[ripe jungle]

And how did you come upon this interesting tidbit that it stops at lvl 34 🤣

[abstract gate]

And you can sit there and “educate” all you like, it was all there, in the wild.

[abstract gate]

Sorry, epic ship*

You can’t pull a lucky epic faction ship from one and two chest rare pulls. You can from six.

[ripe jungle]

Says who?

[abstract gate]

Uhhh.

I’m out. This stuff is out there. If you don’t wanna learn, I’m not wasting my Monday forcing a square peg through a round hole.

I’ve told you I don’t think it’s fair they changed it.

But I also told you if you’ve nothing at all given the recent events in the lineup, you’re approaching something wrong.

[ripe jungle]

Dream on buddy. Besides even if you were right, there’s no need to ever have more than six rare armada chests at a time.

[abstract gate]

Not buddy, I’ve tried teaching you and helping you and you don’t wanna learn, you wanna whinge. Do so in blocked messages.

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-gtg-peace-out-gif-11015153

[ripe jungle]

So long, sucker

I’ll bet he teaches people to blow on their hands three times before pushing the button too 🤣

[celest cloud]

There is one every 11 days.

[ripe jungle]

You can’t win one every 11 days

[abstract gate]

Your effort is better expended on someone that wishes to learn. You will meet people in life that do not wish to learn, they wish to complain. Best to just move on and smile.

[celest cloud]

You can just rank for the rewards, no need to win every SLB, you still get rewards for waiting that you would not otherwise have had.

[ripe jungle]

I can’t even rank every 11 days.

I’d rather get the rewards for the sms events

[abstract gate]

For those that have a desire to understand the confusion as to why you got no ultra tokens, @celest cloud is right. Build em up a few weeks, go for an SLB and hope for luckies.

The last SLB was far enough back that you would be exceptionally unfortunate that you can’t even just use Combat Training and Alliance Credits to get over the line.

I placed second in the last SLB, and have 3000 ultra tokens left over from doing yesterday’s event and I was left with nothing for that second place.

[celest cloud]

To be fair... If you don't have factions providing recruit tokens, this is the right thing to do - I would say the SMS is the priority.

For me, the Faction recruit boxes daily more than covers the SMS events.

Unfortunately, it is also true that higher ops get far, FAR more Ultra tokens than lower Ops, and that's problematic (especially since lower ops are unlikely to have as many factions at the 10M first lock). Each faction in Faction hunt gives almost 2 chests, and the Domination event yesterday gave 1,500.

[abstract gate]

😍 faction hunt.

How many of the complainers only do one of the faction hunt factions “because reputation”?

Im also cant finished the ultra event ...but what i now finish is play this game what only kidding players to torture them to spend money

[ripe jungle]

I get six chests per month from the faction hunts. A bit less than three more from the dailies. I might just as well say that 40+ should stop whining about not have enough materials for the spend event because I easily accumulated that over the course of this month.

And the combat training mission that I’m at (and is too hard for me currently) would give me another two.

With that kind of income it is not possible for me to compete in the slb’s. I might as well open them during normal recruit events.

[desert laurel]

wasteful, you can use faction recruit tokens for that

[bitter snow]

"The stuff is out there" You sound like one of the twits peddling alternative remedies / conspiracy theories on facebook 😂

[desert laurel]

ultras have the highest pt gain/time

[ripe jungle]

What do you mean pt gain per time?

[desert laurel]

it's how you snipe slbs

[celest cloud]

I have no problem with the mats to score... the problem is to spend them I need 62,500 common 4* and you get around 80-100 per refine 🙂

Ultra recruit tokens are also available from the daily SMS events that pay Latinum - I routinely do the Ship XP ones (3x large and 1x small per 11 days - in 14 hours time there is a small and a large one running at the same time), and when I can afford it the Research and Station ones.

[ashen wharf]

Ignore slbs

[ripe jungle]

Yeah right. If I saved up all the ultras I ever got during the game, I’d have to blow them all to win one slb.

[ashen wharf]

No point

[ripe jungle]

Yeah that’s usually the additional source, but this month I avoided all the station and research ones because I was saving them for the arc events.

[desert laurel]

no, you never blow the whole load if you can avoid it. There are also faction tokens to use first, and tps. Ultras have strategic value, and at a point you don't need 1 more shard, if your targeted officer needs a hundred more for his tier.

[abstract gate]

Since LCARS went I memorised most of the stuff I care about and STFC.space doesn’t have the rest yet…. So I know it’s there, I’m just too idle to go get it 😂

[bitter snow]

I'm not buying your MLM, go away 😂

[ripe jungle]

The odds for lucky pull from ultra chest are documented right in the game

[ashen wharf]

Hahahahaha

[desert laurel]

it would take several lucky pulls to up a tier for some of my officers

[ashen wharf]

Trusting scopely odds

[abstract gate]

The two I followed on Discord spent weeks with people posting their resumes, and that got boring quick.

[celest cloud]

An Ultra will score on average 1,000 points on a recruit event (excluding luckies - these can give up to 18,750 if you pull a lucky Five of Ten), a 6-pull of faction recruit should in principle score on average 1,620 (but I strongly suspect the odds of pulling Epic shards is less than advertised given I have routinely scored below the expected value over thousands of chests).

[abstract gate]

Went from no six to T2 six in one lucky 6 pull 😂

[ripe jungle]

I’m positive they never screw it up in my favor 😂

[desert laurel]

maybe it's useful for you to use them up as soon as you get them now, but there aren't many game-changing officers

[ashen wharf]

thats like trusting scopely that a prime will be 100% power bonus and it never states thats "base" level

[desert laurel]

eventually you'll just save them for use to snipe slbs or win ALBs

[abstract gate]

Five is good. Six is good but if you don’t have a T4 epic your ships are too squishy to use them *effectively.

[ripe jungle]

I don’t even have the “normal” officers yet!

[abstract gate]

But know that I’m wrong 😂 priceless

[ripe jungle]

Oh yes, that I know for sure.

[celest cloud]

They don't seem accurate for everything, sure... but from the Ultras I have pulled (and I have lost count), 1 in 20 being a lucky seems accurate, as does the 50/50 split on average between Epics and Rares.

Often they can be missed as the Lucky popup doesn't always trigger when pulling multi-chest (and sometimes, I've had it trigger twice for a single lucky) - especially if you have maxed officers and they turn into TPs, easy to overlook a lucky rare there.

[abstract gate]

https://tenor.com/view/working-as-intended-scopely-panicstfc-stfcpanic-stfc-gif-17759937

[ashen wharf]

One thats really annoying is when they say doubles Mining rate!

Then its like +2500 per hour

Exocomps

🤣

[abstract gate]

Ahh, that’s because it applies in the wrong place for your perceived double.

Research and stuff goes on top of a load of things, ship bonuses etc.

[ashen wharf]

Yeah normal people dont read it like that though

[abstract gate]

I agree.

Normal people coded the latinum mining rate increases though.

That was a good day.

[ashen wharf]

truee

[abstract gate]

I’m glad they left that.

[ashen wharf]

Thats how everything should be

Tbf

[abstract gate]

The weirdos that like to set their alarms and move ships around so they can win lat rush don’t like it.

[ashen wharf]

Sitting on nodes for hours is redonculous

[abstract gate]

But I can mine for an hour during lat rush and be good for three weeks 🤣

Now if only they could do the same to Isogen….

Two Meridians and I still can’t be bothered to watch them for long enough to do max refines 😂

[cunning radish]

no hits on miners in tc on my server

set and forget

[abstract gate]

I wanna join your server

So much loot.

[mystic orbit]

Stupid question. Do ALL of the Heart of Stonn events have to be COMPLETED to unlock. I will not be able to complete the Recruit challenge as I do not have enough Ultra Recruit tokens to complete that one?

[heavy moon]

Yes, they have to be and without recruit you cant complete main one

[mystic orbit]

Well thank you so that frees up a few of the challenges fpr the rest of this week as I am unable to unlock. Save them RSS for F2P.

[heavy moon]

I spent recruit tokens on event, just 2 Hours before they announced the change, they want our money ofc

[mystic orbit]

Well F that. Oh well.

Thank you so much

[cunning imp]

I'm still waiting for support to reply. I have exactly enough tokens to complete the event, but I got screwed and only received 300 points for the first 2 ultra recruits. Hope they fix it within the next 6 hours.

[unreal vortex]

Ditto

[abstract gate]

Why they no react to all the problems the player pointed????

They did, that’s how we got here. Give them time 😅

[heavy moon]

They only react to €€€€€

[abstract gate]

People that are short of ultra recruit tokens, there’s a crate worth of them in limited time research event running at the moment…

[eager hill]

now it will be argued that 2 epic pull is six rare pulls 🤣

[abstract gate]

What level ops?

Not high as you’re still getting hijacked 😬

Was that epic chest though?

[eager hill]

it was an old player, a year ago. maybe ops 36

[abstract gate]

Sorry, I was unclear; them’s the rules for rare chests. Epics I’m not sure if there’s any variation between single and double.

[eager hill]

looking at credits i think so

[abstract gate]

Yeah, it looks like a mid-30s epic. Context is key but I wasn’t clear; you don’t get lucky Faction epic ships from single and double rare pulls.

The comments before were talking about how that logic affects rare armada loot and ultra chests.

Epics are a law unto themselves 😂 and I never looked because I can’t spend pinks quickly enough to do anything less than max pull.

If only the same applied to eclipse 😏

[eager hill]

saw the argument a mile away. It is just your observational bias. People keep telling each other to do 4k ultra pulls while I have gotten three epic full pulls from three straight single pulls.

[cunning radish]

Where is your info from

[abstract gate]

I agree you still get lucky on singles - I got a bunch of them last night and observationally it seems like luck was increased last night as most of our alliance (not all, some very disappointed souls!) pulled at least one lucky.

But I’d been told and there used to be a spreadsheet somewhere that suggested that luck was higher on the larger ultra pulls.

[bitter snow]

couldn't just have been an increased number of pulls, all at once, so more people are going to shout out and compare 😂

Obviously tweaked probability

[abstract gate]

Oh we always torment each other with our lucky pulls.

Well that came out wrong.

[bitter snow]

You do you

[abstract gate]

You know what I mean. 😂

[bitter snow]

Confirmation bias, and as nobody goes back to check the comparisons, it filters into assumption and lore...

[abstract gate]

Well, luck has to strike some time obviously but last SLB I had to drop most of my ultras because I got no lucky.

[bitter snow]

Like rocking left and right while holding B to try and boost pokeball effectiveness back in Red/Blue 😂

[abstract gate]

Last night I got three lucky from nine chests.

I thought it was odd. When everyone else said the same, we suspect there was a change in luck. Maybe a backhanded apology from Scopely.

Who knows. We never will 😂

[bitter snow]

Thing is... the ultra only flags up epic lucky pulls normally, or the first of the 6 you collect - not sure which.
If you hit 'skip', you just see the end results normally

[abstract gate]

Yeah the big numbers next to the officers give it away though 😅

And if you don’t look at those you spend too much 👀😬

[bitter snow]

I rarely notice the rare/greens 😂

[abstract gate]

I noticed my last two lucky Livis’ 🤣

As admiral told me… lucky is lucky.

I repeated the same when he got lucky 1 of 10 last night 😂

[bitter snow]

most of the time I just do the pull and carry on... not a matter of spending, just purpose

[abstract gate]

I’ll take Lucky 5 and two Lucky Charva thanks 😅

[cunning radish]

I’ve had one lucky epic ultra pull in the nearly 10 months I’ve been playing

🤦‍♂️

[bitter snow]

That you observed/remembered

[abstract gate]

So you understand why we’re suddenly skeptical that at least a quarter of the alliance pulled at least one lucky in a night? 😂

[cunning radish]

I mean they’re rare and easy to remember

[abstract gate]

As he said, might just be luck…. But we never had that much luck 😂

[cunning radish]

But you’re not wrong

[bitter snow]

I know I've seen 6, Mitchel, a Kirk... and others, but couldn't tell you how many or who

[cunning radish]

Only one I’ve ever got to my knowledge is charv

[bitter snow]

Mostly the odd random rare or uncommon

[cunning radish]

Oh I’ve had heaps of rare

And unc

I mean epics

[abstract gate]

I’ve had a couple of Spocks, two fives, two six, two Charva, two 10.

A couple of Livis.

[cunning radish]

Yeah I’ve had Spock at least 5 times

🤣

[abstract gate]

I’d swap half of those for a couple of lucky Chen.

[bitter snow]

pretty sure I had a lucky rare the other day, but one of the ones I've maxed

But may also have been a handful of kirks

[cunning radish]

Yep 🙂

😦

I’ll never max Chen at this rate

[bitter snow]

takes about a year to 18 months from what I've seen, unless you're pouring lat into the problem

[abstract gate]

100 left to go.

[bitter snow]

Probably more now since they added more officers to the pot

[cunning radish]

85 here

[abstract gate]

Been going for 18 months easily.

Took three months out just as they started piling officers into the mix.

So the worst three months to miss 😂

[cunning radish]

Lol

[celest cloud]

You all dropped lots of Ultra chests, of course you will see more luckies than usual, and when one person remarks it will lead to others going "oh yeah, me too!" that would have been missed if you opened at different times.

Add to this that it forces you to open one chest at a time (so no chance of the game skipping the popup and you missing when you had a lucky).

[abstract gate]

Lots?

I dropped 9, same as everyone else.

I’ll drop five or six times that easily in an SLB event.

I know what you’re saying, and “perception” isn’t “evidence”, but that’s a lot of people perceiving the same thing.

anyone know how some people got 4/10 early? I have not missed a single event and completed them all. I should get it in the next day or so but how did some people get him early?

Expensive battle pass unlock.

Bunch of shards in that from memory.

One guy in our alliance swears he only bought €20 unlock but has him.

I try not to lose sleep over it 😂

[ember walrus]

Basic math says chance of lucky pull is
4% for rare (80% X 5%)
1% for Epic (20% X 5%)
Or 95% chance to not get a lucky pull per chest

Edited based on feedback

[celest cloud]

So, a roughly 45% chance of having a lucky pull for each of you with 9 chests. That's coinflip material. I've pulled two chests back to back and had a lucky each time before, and done a 5-pull that give 2 luckies (for real, not just the bug), and similarly I have gone 30 chests with nothing. That's just variance.

7 people all flipping heads is a 0.78% chance for reference - low odds, but not crazy.

[abstract gate]

Yeah, I get that.

[abstract gate]

As I said a few times now, there’s no evidence of it just last night felt a lot luckier 😂

[thick wagon]

does anyone know how can we get 4of10 avatar ? 🙂

[uneven oak]

top tier of Heart of Stonn Part 2 SMS

[thick wagon]

ah, my blind eyes... thanks 🙂

[cedar plinth]

Can ships no longer cloak in warp??

[abstract gate]

Nope.

Apparently it’s nothing to be concerned about but it’s enough that I want my hard earned back.

[ripe jungle]

But lucky Chen is only 10 shards though. I got her to r4 from a lucky when I had six to go. In six months I’ve had two epics (at least that I remember), 10 and Kirk. I’ve had some rares two times over. Besides the epics I think the best one was moreau.

[ripe jungle]

No additional 50%, it’s 80% x 5% for rare and 20% x 5% for epic?

It’s 50/50 for regular shards, 80/20 for lucky pull

[ember walrus]

Ah well odds still suck

[waxen sedge]

The $100 battlepass.

[waxen sedge]

Where does the first 50% in your calculation come from?

[waxen sedge]

Yes

[ember walrus]

Base 50% to rare or epic. I am figuring scopely wants lowest chance. So for instance. 50% its rare 5% its lucky then 80% that lucky is tagged for rare

[waxen sedge]

No, the "lucky" is not one of your ten shards, its an extra 5% roll from the chest, and then a roll after that for epic or rare, in theory. When you hit a lucky you still get 10 other rare/epic shards.

[ember walrus]

Ok then
4% rare lucky
1% epic lucky
Per chest

[waxen sedge]

Here's my coolest example, an ultra chest pull that was all Epics, 6 visible shards, a 40k lucky of somebody I already had maxed, and 4 more Epic shards (400 x 4 = 1.2k) of other officers I had maxed. I have no idea how to calculate odds but all epics would be like hitting head or tails 10 times in a row by itself, and then the 1% lucky hit.

[celest cloud]

1 in 20,480

[ripe jungle]

1 in 102400.

[ember walrus]

.5^10X.01 is the math for an total odds of 0.00098%

[azure hound]

Are they gonna activate all pull options for ultra chests.. not just 1 chest option

[ripe jungle]

Flipping a coin and getting ten heads is 1 in 2 to the power 10 or 1 in 1024. Times 1%, the chance of then pulling a lucky epic.

[celest cloud]

So it is. Very lucky indeed.

Had neglected to factor that the lucky was Epic.

[unkempt pecan]

Any idea when this will land? Its burning a virtual hole in my virtual pocket. . . I’ve got buildings to upgrade. . .

[ember walrus]

2 days after its useful

[abstract gate]

And just in time to have spent it before a random unscheduled spend event.

[pale lantern]

Definitely 90% of players will not get to finish the Stonn event, hardly anyone has that many Ultra Tokens, Scopely should have put on a Faction Hunt event today.

[dusty lodge]

They actually didn't even give us another domination event to get ultra shards ffs

[hardy parcel]

Well it's closer to 90% of us will finish this event and 10% won't on our server.

Because we save resources for events....

What we have now is far better than the plain old resource event we had at the start and just in a different league from the leaderboard events

[abstract gate]

I think u save rss for events 😂

[hardy parcel]

Of course, I've played more than 3 days so I figured that part out...

[abstract gate]

That’s your personal opinion that I don’t share. Irrespective of that, the point is not whether it is now better or worse but the change of the rules of the game in the middle of the match without time to adjust and/or compensate for such a change

[ripe jungle]

Well I’ve been complaining loudly about the switch but it looks like with all the daily events plus yesterday’s domination I might actually get enough. Got around 4.5k tokens and need 1.1k more, starting from under 500.

Hopefully the limited time ship event coming up also pays out ultra tokens and then should get the rest

[abstract gate]

The ship event saved me

[nova valley]

Curious tho. How many stonn shards will you finish with? And worf shards also for that matter? Now, how many do you have for 3 of 10?

If it’s more. Even if not an unlock, then the mechanic is factually better. THAT SAID it took all of us by surprise. If this becomes a standard, just like previous auctions mechanic, players will adapt and prepare for the next one

[ripe jungle]

Enticing us with “hey that spend sms is actually achievable, yippee” and then pulling the rug at the last moment is what leaves the bad taste, 3/10 I took one look at the first leaderboard and knew it wasn’t for me

The announced spend sms was already miles better for f2p than the auctions

[ashen wharf]

the spend sms wasnt achievable either tho

both were crap

unless youve been saving up

if they made it all officer tokens used it wouldnt have been bad

[nova valley]

which is the point. players will see this, and adjust, and plan for next time.

doens't take the sting away from this month tho, that's for dang sure. i dunno that "f2p unlock": woulda been the proper way to describe this path. lol

[abstract gate]

I think that you are not getting the point… As a f2p that I am, I now that I’ll not get Worf and also not 3/10 but I was promised that I will get 4/10 for free (remember I’m f2p player) if I complete certain events as they were specified so I prepared for that and now I see that such promise is broken

[ashen wharf]

i have a ton of faction tokens that would have been way easier lol

[ripe jungle]

It would have been, if they had set the spend milestones more sensibly for all the ops levels

As it stands, it was easily achievable for some ops, impossible for others

[ashen wharf]

39+ was tough i would be broke if i did the sms

so i decided not too

aka i wont get stonn

[torpid light]

@nova valley my concern is the message that the change to this event has sent. Who knows what we now need to hoard, so basically hoard everything, do no building, station or researches that need anything just in case that currency is required in a valuable arc event.
I think there needs to be some sense of the things they can use so players can plan.

[nova valley]

oh i'm not missing your point. the whole show last night was about how the rug was pulled out. and the handling of Heart of Stonn was abysmal at best. which is a shame, cause it was a beautiful design. but mishandled terribly.

[ripe jungle]

And instead of changing the milestones to be sensible, they threw a curveball at everyone

[ember walrus]

I believe that the milestones would have been ok with just a single epic officer in the arc with 2 it skewed the numbers

[unreal vortex]

Anyone had a response from regarding the 150 Point Pulls still stuck at 450 😦

[abstract gate]

Possibly. The material spend event was still bonkers though.

Splitting it is a good thing. I’m confident they could carry this through to next arc as-is and it wouldn’t be overly painful.

[nova valley]

send a ticket. but before this 48 hour event is up, you still need to have done the total number of pulls necessary. take a screenshot NOW and after you're done, and send a ticket. so if your event requires a totla of 7 pulls, and you did one with incorrect points. take the screenshot, pull 6 more, take the screenshots, and send a ticket.

[ripe jungle]

No, it’s an issue for some ops levels and not others. I will literally be able to do all four spend SMS’s (with original milestones) just based on income from this month and the armada directives they gave out. Which is another thing, at my ops those directives actually mattered, they could make up a significant chunk of the required points. For higher ops, they’re basically irrelevant compared to the milestones. Makes no sense.

[ember walrus]

It was but with out 2 more for worf it could have been painful but possible

[abstract gate]

Hence my question on how Scopely is planning to compensate for both breaking their promise and for their mishandling

[unreal vortex]

@nova valley yea I've done that still no response sadly I don't know if I should keep pulling or wait 😦

[abstract gate]

I think more will have it now than would have done with a straight repeat of that spend event.

Irony time, it probably would have been a flip reverse of the people who wouldn’t have got it this time. 40+ was insane and crippling by all accounts.

Now it’s the people in the midfield that have pushed a bit too hard in other areas that lack the tokens.

[ripe jungle]

In terms of making it more accessible I mean the best thing would be to club everything together. Materials, armada directives, officer shards, power. So everyone can make up the points with what is available to them.

[coarse bison]

What do people see for alliance leaderboards at this point in latinum rush? We're on a server that's 3 months old and the top alliances have like 50+ million points after 45 minutes but the next group is only at 1 million or so

So is there some trick to exploiting the latinum rush event or something?

[abstract gate]

In my particular case (I saved material as soon as I got the “rules of the game”), I would have 10p% completed it while now I won’t get to the last milestone of both the “ultra-recruit” and the “heart of Stone part 2”, leaving me with 13 shards less than anticipated

[abstract gate]

What have you done to try acquire the ultras?

Bear in mind I’ve seen three pulls worth in events and easy missions in the last 24 hours

[ripe jungle]

What missions?

[abstract gate]

The new ones.

[nova valley]

don't have an answer on this yet. but i CAN tell you i've presented a few ideas. and i hope that they look at them with serious consideration! i think truthfully, there's a simple way to salvage this arc. so i remain hopeful that here in the last 7 days we find something fair for all.

[ashen wharf]

oh man imagine mining events just being > mine anything you can complete the event

[ripe jungle]

New deep space missions? Umm

[abstract gate]

people who hadn’t noticed them suddenly go scurrying

[modern estuary]

when are the missing par being awared for that bugged rom event the other day?

[abstract gate]

I did the full domination event yesterday and spent all the alliance credits to get to milestone 3 but I still need 4x ultra recruit pulls and I won’t be able to get enough for more than one more

[stray flint]

Daily ship event tonight pays out double ultra /premium recruit tokens from 11pm BST

[nova valley]

i woudln't pull MORE than you were required to. i've been told CS is aware of the situation and will take appropriate action for players who have documented and submit a proper ticket with their situation.

[ripe jungle]

Anyway I think I’ve got around 4 chests worth from dailies and domination so not too bad

[abstract gate]

Did you see the ultra recruit tokens in was it station and research events?

Then there’s a small tickle from your dailies, your alliance credits.

Don’t forget combat training pays out these.

[abstract gate]

Yes, and I got all I could already

[ripe jungle]

Combat training you only do once, not like you can tier up your ship to do the next one with two days notice

[abstract gate]

Even the dailies and all the missions I could

I’m not saying it’s possible in all cases, I’m just trying to help you identify any you hadn’t thought of.

[unreal vortex]

@nova valley did via the live chat that should count right? thanks for the response 🙂

[abstract gate]

Combat training goes on as far as you’re willing to throw ships at it.

[nova valley]

mmm. you won't get the unlock, BUT TECHNICALLY. you're only gonna be short 4 bps. IF you finished 3 of the 4 ultra recruit milestones, that's if you're true f2p. if you had the elite paid battlepass track, you'll only be 1 bp short. BUT it's still not an unlock and i'll keep advocating for some solution.

[nova valley]

do you have any hostile "trianing missions?" like the ones where you have to kill the yellow bosses at each level?

[abstract gate]

I’ve thrown six at the hostile captain before.

I reeeeally needed dilithium 😂

[ripe jungle]

Doesn’t help if your ship gets blown up before it can eat through the hull

[abstract gate]

Send more ships.

[abstract gate]

Not anymore, I need to kill lvl 42 hostiles and I’m still lvl 37 so I cannot get into DS

[bold jacinth]

Anyone knows when the steel and g3 is coming for the war prep ticket event a few days ago?

[abstract gate]

Well, then you are stuck.

😂

[ripe jungle]

They don’t matter. Hull regents instantly, more ships only help taking shields down

[abstract gate]

I’ve noticed 😉

As I said. I’ll try help you find a solution but there may not be one. I’ll always try help though.

[celest cloud]

Or kill capital traders in Sol, Romulus or Kronos.

[abstract gate]

Well… that’s a whole new level of throwing ships at it 😂

[ripe jungle]

But will actually work 😂

[abstract gate]

You might find an agreeable partner to take it 90% of the way there. Hit it straight after and it’s an “easier” kill.

[abstract gate]

Adobe my pay grade, I’m afraid

[rigid coral]

There are lvl49 hostiles outside of DS (Sol for exsmple). With a good epic 3* ship and PMC the normal 49 are killable.

[abstract gate]

*above

[ripe jungle]

But do the “training” ones start giving ultras?

[abstract gate]

Got a friend? Before I got T4 Chen (I know! The game hates me!) a friend would munch the 41s down for me.

[ripe jungle]

Or only the hostile captains?

[abstract gate]

The issue for him was not killing them 😂

[celest cloud]

Caveat that you need a maxed Chen for this to work.

[abstract gate]

Can’t remember which ones give ultras specifically, I’m on 42 and struggle keeping attention on it long enough to go to DS to kill them.

[celest cloud]

The Veteran levels tend to give ultras, as well as Epic shards for e.g. Kirk or Gorkon.

[abstract gate]

That’s what I thought

[celest cloud]

It's not as big at lower levels but gives the idea...

[abstract gate]

Want them speedboats

Might pop up to DS after all. It is mining Monday 😬

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-come-back-later-maybe-scotty-sire-gif-14428715

[modern estuary]

do you have a t4 or better epic g3? if yes you can try hitting the 49 traders in the capitol systems

[ripe jungle]

38 gives 1400, so doesn’t go up that dramatically with level. But no-one can help you with the hostile captain. Only hope if you aren’t really strong enough yet is to throw ships at it until you take down the shields and hope you’re at least strong enough to eat through the hull before it kills you.

[abstract gate]

Don’t forget that gold ones don’t respond to Chen.

[modern estuary]

for gold mission bosses / captains pvp crew works better

[abstract gate]

Yup.

[ripe jungle]

Not just better, it’s the only thing that works. None of pmc will work on a yellow.

It’s like having an empty bridge if you throw it at a mission boss

[abstract gate]

What is a captains PvP crew?

[ripe jungle]

Should have been a comma there. Bosses/captains, pvp crew against them.

[modern estuary]

when are the missing par being awared for that bugged rom event the other day?

[celest cloud]

It's not quite PvP crew either as PvP abilities don't work.

I found success in the early days on a Saladin with Bones-Kirk-Spock, switching to Five-Kirk-Spock.

When I got the USS Enterprise, Five-Kirk and the appropriate anti-mitigation officer (e.g. Kang if versus Interceptors) worked best. Others have found success with Leslie.

[ripe jungle]

Right some officers are player specific and won’t work on yellows either

[ember walrus]

I have yet to test if the anti faction officers work on yellows that have a faction name

[waxen sedge]

Leslie on the Enterprise (with Kirk and then one Leslie synergy) is the cheat code for yellows. Doesn't work forever, but I killed all the combat training mission yellows so far with it, now I need to find (or to be more accurate, reach) level 50 hostiles.

[terse summit]

What power was your Ent when you did the 48/49 bosses?

[native meteor]

Is it normal that i get for a lvl 35 swarm 35.000 points if in the event for the battlepass stands 35swarm 70.000?

ok i think for scopely it's normal

[viral yarrow]

<@&509691205798592532> what happened to the Iss jellyfish event this month

[native meteor]

oh the champion is in the House

[waxen sedge]

Pretty high, 4 million something, my Enterprise is T8 and I think I beat the last couple after I upgraded it to there.

[terse summit]

Yeah, limit for my 3.6m is the 48, can't beat him with Leslie. Not even close, so been wondering when it's possible

[charred island]

Has anyone heard anything about the missed steel payout from the bugged ticket event?

[abstract gate]

<@&509690795536941056> somebody might ask scopely how in earth I have a Limited Time station event in which I, a level 28, have to compete with lvl 47...

Just another rediculous event

[broken inlet]

Yeah I think that's messed up

[waxen sedge]

They never seem to have reworked the slb events other than the recruit one for 40+, so most people in the g3 world have to compete with g4 players. At least you can feel good that what that 47 player is getting in rewards will be pretty much useless at their level.

[lost abyss]

The spenders need cannon fodder

[ashen wharf]

yeah you are their meal

[ember walrus]

Does not help when they build 1 thing and it counters you buliding everything

[abstract gate]

I can't even compete with 35+, let alone 45+

[ashen wharf]

welcome to the game

[waxen sedge]

Maybe, but a 47 would probably prefer to still blow out a 40 and get g4 materials and a slightly more useful amount of par/trit/dil (but still next to nothing).

[waxen sedge]

Don't mess with the slb's I'd say, or if you do wait until the waning seconds and try to snipe it, and only (for station ones) try that if you have a defense platform building and can rush it at the bell and it will score enough for 1st. Otherwise, 2nd place in one is worse than the 6 hour sms, at least in terms of the ultra recruit tokens event which is the only station one I ever try to complete.

[abstract gate]

I can build as many platforms asvI like, doesn't do anything 😂

[ember walrus]

I have not touched the SLBs since early 20s

[waxen sedge]

They are upgrading defense platforms it looks like then, even for a 47 nothing else in the station that I am aware of scores more than a few thousand at most.

[shrewd knot]

They are total garbage. The range is always too far. It's just a waste of time.

[waxen sedge]

I used to try and watch them at the end and see if I could snipe them before my server got ascension, but it's a waste now imo. I just go slow and pick off the 6 and 12 hour sms events as often as I can.

[viral yarrow]

<@&509691205798592532> @livid jolt any word on the issue jellyfish event that has not been run yet

[sand pivot]

There was a message earlier about War preapartion ticketed event. But cant find it, just the copy of it pasted into a private chest.... "We are aware of a discrepancy in the reward's for today's War Preparation - Joint Operations event. All players that complete this event and claim the milestone 4 rewards will receive the rest of the intended resource quantities on Monday, " The event gave only 5M parse in ore version (op41) vs 10 millions of trit or millions of dili in other versions...

[nova valley]

it's still monday. and barely lunchtime in LA. they still have time

[sand pivot]

Have found it...

[ember walrus]

Mind you they did not say what monday. Could be Oct 18 2032 thats still a monday

[sand pivot]

For me Monday is nearly over. 😄 Less than 3 hours. 😛

[nova valley]

this is genius.

[dire veldt]

It's still Monday somewhere

[native meteor]

is it normal that i get for a lvl35 swarm 35.000 points although in event description stands for 35 swarm 70.000?

[nova valley]

COULD be toast muckup. check event scoring and then see if it's still of.

off*

toasts are never right.

if only they'd put avocado on them. maybe then.....

[mystic orbit]

I have no money and I need xp cubes to finish stonn event. Where can I get some in time?

[ember walrus]

Xp for stonn where does that work?

[mystic orbit]

Ok don’t have enough ultra credits so limited ship event rewards give ultra credits but have no yellow to do ship event.

[ember walrus]

If you can kill separatists i would try that

[mystic orbit]

You know a system with lowest?

[ember walrus]

[Achillon Space S:500227886 X:-398.2783 Y:514.176]

17s there

[desert laurel]

if you wait a couple hours there'll be another ship exp event so you can double dip your spend

[quiet harness]

Or use lat

[ember walrus]

High chest drop rate

[quiet harness]

I wish I still got those

[desert laurel]

and farming ship xp will not work as a viable source, use lat for it

[ember walrus]

If they have the ship xp event i doubt they have a good non pay way to get lat

[desert laurel]

could be hoarding it for a rainy day without realizing that day is today

[ember walrus]

True

[earnest hornet]

And in some places it’s Tuesday already 😂😂😂😂

[mystic orbit]

How to use latinum for xp ?

[desert laurel]

when you don't have enough ship exp to use on your ship, it will ask if you want to spend lat for it

[earnest hornet]

You just spend the xp, and it will ask you to spend Lat 😊

[mystic orbit]

Ok. Thanks.

[desert laurel]

it's notable that there are bulk rates when you buy larger amounts

[ember walrus]

I would have posted a screenshot but all my ships are lvled for once

[mystic orbit]

That did it. Thank y’all so much.

[fallen shale]

How many points should we have in the Stonn SMS if we did all the events available?

[ember walrus]

I have 62 and have completed all events so far

[fallen shale]

Ok, thanks. Seems like we should have more.

[ember walrus]

Should be 2 more 3 pt events and the freaking armada one for 32

[fallen shale]

Or I’m dumb and thought we did the Armada Assault already. 🤦‍♂️

[ember walrus]

I saw plenty of armadas being run to skip 3* spending last 2 days may have been that

[fallen shale]

Yeah, might be why I thought we did it already.

[lime eagle]

So how tf do we get ultra credits. This event was changed so quick so people could not prepare. Absolute joke

[fallen shale]

You have any combat training missions left?

[spark prism]

Still haven’t received my compensation chest. I finished the event.

[lime eagle]

I cant finish cuz i dont have creds. If it wasn't switched maybe could have done it. Never any positive fix to scopely messups continuously

[oblique cave]

Same as you. They confirmed without ultra chest event you can't get him. Many of us have been shafted

[desert laurel]

in half an hour there's another ship xp event, doing both should net some ultras

[slate hatch]

Are they going to fix the recruit event? I was one chest away when they changed it. If they had recalculated my score based on the new values I'd have still been one away. Now I've opened three more and still going to be two away. I'm out of tokens and alliance credits and can't get anymore.

[ember walrus]

Well xp for low ops ship upgrade for bigger

[abstract gate]

No ultra in 😂 😂 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[main spindle]

Ok where's the ship XP event for ultra recruit tokens im not seeing it all i have is ship upgrade events with no ultra recruit tokens

[ashen wharf]

What level are you

[main spindle]

I need the ultra recruit tokens im 2 pulls short

Lv 35

[ashen wharf]

Mm dunno then

They have been slowly trying to get rid of ship xp events

Because people can actually do those with lat mining

Dunno why they even do ship upgrade ones

We dont get enough mats for how frequent they are

[main spindle]

I hate that they say there is a event coming with ultra recruit tokens for rewards but then its a no show

[mental yoke]

We don’t get the ship XP events anymore at ops35

Now all we get are the mats spend ship events

[main spindle]

So then how the hell am i supposed to finish the recruit event

[ashen wharf]

[mental yoke]

Ultra tokens are available for sale in the alliance store. They are pricey there but if you are only a little short you may be able to get enough there to help finish. Ultras were a poor choice by Scopley for this event.

[main spindle]

Yeah i need 1600 and im definitely not nor can i afford 100$ f that

[mental yoke]

Not the cash store, but in the alliance store for alliance creds.

[main spindle]

No alliance credits im low

[ashen wharf]

Alliance creds are very hard to get for majority of players

Unless youve been playing for year +

[mental yoke]

Yeah. They cost a lot of creds.

[ashen wharf]

You are more than likely low

[main spindle]

I've been playing for almost 2 years and i use the alliance credits for shields

[mental yoke]

Just was another option that might help out.

[main spindle]

And right now I don't have a big alliance where i can get alot of alliance credits

So i cant finish the last milestone cuz scopely screwed us over with only a 2 day warning and i used the ultra tokens i got from the battle pass before the notice of the change went out otherwise I would have been able to finish it

Ill probably stop giving them the 20 dollars for the premium rewards pack now cuz they keep screwing us

[lime eagle]

How do u fix an issue by making it much more worse. Went from people being able to complete to not being able finish the last tier of this event. What a joke

Take this feedback and provide the compensation for idiocy please.

[abstract gate]

I don’t get this.

The game gives you a whole day every day, near enough.

My alliance credits buy a bunch of 4 hour shields maybe once a month to cover times when I’m on/off.

[main spindle]

@abstract gate no it give me 12 hour shield

[ashen wharf]

Back before we got 12 hr shields people bought shields with alliance credits

[lime eagle]

If we miss last tier of recruit event do we miss out on earning stonn???

[ashen wharf]

i know i did lol

[abstract gate]

Yeah but that is long gone now right?

[ashen wharf]

uhh

January i think

[abstract gate]

For as long as I can remember you get as minimum 4, 8 and 12

[main spindle]

I like knowing that if i go offline for a while i wont get raided

[charred island]

Any update on the missing steel and mats from the ticket event the other day?

[abstract gate]

But I can’t remember further back than what I had to eat last

[main spindle]

And i don't always have time to reset a shield when im out and about

[abstract gate]

So you burn massive quantities of large shields?

Very ineffective way of going about it but if that’s what you gotta do I guess.

[main spindle]

No i dont raid stations or farm node that often

[ashen wharf]

Different timezones have to do different play styles

[abstract gate]

Don’t buy that.

[celest cloud]

The 12h shields were added to dailies around April 2020 (or was it March). Over 18 months at least.

[main spindle]

So im almost always have a shield up

[ashen wharf]

And we all cant put 6-10 hours into the game and yeah i keep a shield up normally at all times

[abstract gate]

If you have to pop a bubble for a node, ask your alliance first.

So many people waste their made up currency because they’ll get some more.

I’ve seen people stick a 12 hour shield on then come on and rob OPC four hours later, like the shield has no value at all. Then they stick a shield back up “because they were just popping on”

[main spindle]

90% of the time i fine open nodes with no problem

And high pay nodes

[abstract gate]

Your dailies should cover shielding you most of 24x7

[ashen wharf]

Were constantly at war too

Lol

[main spindle]

Again im not always on to reset my shield at 4hours and 8 hours

[abstract gate]

If you’re having to buy stuff either to not burn 8h when you have to step away for an hour, or buy 1+ days because you’re off for a while, that makes sense.

Then I guess that’s the price you pay.

But then comes the million dollar questions.

Are you F2P / low spender?

And if so, why did you do your ultra pulls after the battle pass awards?

[main spindle]

So i use mostly 12 hour and 1 days when i have enough alliance credits to get a day shield

[abstract gate]

Yikes.

That’s a very expensive way of shielding but I understand I guess.

Cheaper than not shielding depending how much you got 😂

[main spindle]

Low spender i normally get the premium rewards pack for the battle pass

But that about it tho

[abstract gate]

Then spending your ultras when you did was very ineffective. This game is all about resource management, if you want the best stuff you have to manage how you spend what you get.

“Ooh I got some purple ones let’s see what I get” is a whale’s approach to resource

If you spend those tokens just as you get them, they’re worth the officers you get.

[main spindle]

Didn't know that they changed it they sent the message out a day after I got the rewards with the ultra tokens if i knew i would have saved them

[abstract gate]

If you spend them at the right time, they’re worth the same but with a chance of rewards from leaderboards.

[main spindle]

And i spent them cuz my officers suck and i need to unlock other promotions

[abstract gate]

That’s missing the point, you shouldn’t be seeing it as “they didn’t tell you to save them”.

Your game will progress much slower if you spend everything when you get it, than if you spend it when it has it’s highest value.

[halcyon sentinel]

thats not always a fun way to play a game though

[desert laurel]

that's news to me, I'm 36 and still get ship exp events. Must be something specific to old servers that they don't have that event anymore

[halcyon sentinel]

and it is meant to be fun

[abstract gate]

How is the fun bit of the game the ten seconds of “what’s in this box”, and how is that more fun now than in 10 days time when there’s an SLB you can snipe?

[halcyon sentinel]

my only suggestion for getting ultra tokens for this event is if you havent played on the pc version yet, they still give out 3 ultra chests for trying it out

[ashen wharf]

We get them like maybe once a month iirc

i personally havnt seen them in a while

Just the ship upgrade ones

[desert laurel]

I'm talking like right now, two events up, limited ship exp and reg ship exp event cards

[main spindle]

@halcyon sentinel i dont jave a computer

[halcyon sentinel]

ah bad luck 😦

[desert laurel]

what rewards are in the ship upgrade event card?

[ashen wharf]

We dont have a ship xp right now

Lol

[mental yoke]

I believe it is server age. They started phasing out the XP events on us a while back.

[main spindle]

This is what I get now haven't seen ship xp event in forever

[halcyon sentinel]

rewarding gameplay is all, some want feedback/reward for their hour of play a day or whatever, not wait 30 days, some like the other way

[ashen wharf]

Rewards are just small amounts of mats

[desert laurel]

that should be noted in your complaints about ultra sourcing

[ashen wharf]

should tell dj about it

[ashen wharf]

Cuz old servers get shafted

[abstract gate]

Here’s a great example of how you can make the most of it and have the most rewards, and the most rewarding game. When events like this line up it’s the perfect time to do them.

For my 82k of ship XP I just spent

My ships now have 82k more XP, but I also got this

[halcyon sentinel]

sure but some people dont like that, and wont stick around with the game thats all im saying

[ashen wharf]

did you not read .. we dont get ship xp events..

[mental yoke]

Only time we get anything for ship XP anymore is during the BP domination type event

[hexed gorge]

It's mat spend not xp spend

[abstract gate]

Yeah, but for the others it applies.

[main spindle]

Only ultra tokens i got was this morning in the limited time research event and even then I was short 1600 ultra tokens

[abstract gate]

I just got 1800 🤷🏻‍♂️

By spending when I got the most for it.

[ashen wharf]

why are other servers getting these benefits..

[abstract gate]

If people don’t wanna use resource effectively, they can’t complain that they don’t get the best rewards.

[ashen wharf]

I thought the "game economy" is balanced

[desert laurel]

better looking players 😘

[abstract gate]

You’re effectively saying, “I don’t wanna play the game good, I just wanna get all the stuff”

If that’s gonna cost players, those players were never staying anyway.

Sad to see them go and all that, and I don’t want to dismiss it out of hand but this is not a game of CoD where you charge in, shoot some stuff for ten minutes, pat each other on the back and go pop open a beer.

[halcyon sentinel]

bizarre but ok

[ashen wharf]

um that is how this game is

[abstract gate]

You’re in here for months, easy, and that means you gotta think smart about when you spend your stuff.

[desert laurel]

they've probably fine-tuned the system over time and found the best way to run a server later on

I know our origin space is way better than what I hear others are doing

[abstract gate]

What’s yours like 👀

[ashen wharf]

False our origin space has 20 year old m&ms

[desert laurel]

constant flux and activity these days

[ashen wharf]

Good game

[main spindle]

If scopely is going to change something knowing that you get the tokens needed for the upcoming event in the BP then they should let people know this the day they get thoes rewards not the day after

[desert laurel]

people build and use sarcos

[ashen wharf]

Ew

Yeah your server sucks

[abstract gate]

They did, or they let people know as soon as they made that choice.

[ashen wharf]

[abstract gate]

It’s not great, but everyone I’ve seen complaining about not getting this has been what I can only describe as a more casual player with a very relaxed view as to what their stuff is worth.

[ashen wharf]

no..

[abstract gate]

Until of course it comes to BorgStonn, and they should have had him on a plate.

[ashen wharf]

We literally just told you we dont get ship xp events anymore

For the past year lol

[halcyon sentinel]

disengage the troll stay mad 😄

[abstract gate]

Yeah, that sucks, but as an old server you surely got plenty ultra tokens right?

[ashen wharf]

... no

Ship xp events give ultras

We dont get those

...

[abstract gate]

Research does 👀

[desert laurel]

not just them, other events too

[abstract gate]

Officer ones 👀

Station ones 👀

Basically a whole bundle of them do

[desert laurel]

it makes sense, old servers are out for so long that there's nothing left to get from ultra tokens for the super active player

[ashen wharf]

ship xp ones gave the most so your argument is invalid

[abstract gate]

True. Possible.

Although I bet he soon say he hasn’t got max 5

Or 6

Or 10

Cos unicorn

[ashen wharf]

[main spindle]

I have 300 ultra tokens left face it scopely screw us over with a event where u dont get the tokens for often

[abstract gate]

What events do you have on your server, right now?

[ashen wharf]

i just love the escapism and blatent ignoring that our servers get less than new ones

🤣

so funny

Its like when new servers found out they get less in their packs than old servers

[main spindle]

I have ship upgrade events with no ultra tokens

[abstract gate]

I’m not ignoring it, it’s news to a few of us it seems…. But I dunno what you want me to say.

You say no Ship XP event so the argument is invalid.

But that ignored that we just said there are three others off top of our head that got them.

[ashen wharf]

Our old servers arent dying out because we didnt murder everyone like skas server

i just looked at the station and officer ones that just ended

No ultra

So..

Again

We dont have events that give ultras

we get

Trash

[main spindle]

Thus we cant finish the ultra recruit event for heart of Stonn SMS event thus scopely screwed many players over with this event

[ashen wharf]

Ah theres one that gives

[abstract gate]

Well that’s garbage, but it still ignores the original question

[ashen wharf]

Maybe 300 total

[abstract gate]

Don’t spend it all at once!

[ashen wharf]

so again you are wrong

[main spindle]

Thus its not achievable for all to get 4 of 10

[abstract gate]

You got given a couple of crates maybe two days ago.

Where’d they go?

“My officers are…” yeah, so are loads of people.

[hazy sparrow]

Was the duality mission with the romulan defector supposed to reward a cloak?

[abstract gate]

But if you aren’t prepared to wait to pull stuff at the point where it has maximum value, were you ever going to get Stonn?

There are some people I have genuine sympathy with. @ashen wharf is one despite his best efforts to try and seem unreasonable.

But so many people have done everything they can to be in as bad a position as possible.

I’m here explaining how the approach that got you here is how you got here and how to avoid it in future.

I can shut up, you can whinge, you can not get Stonn and the next time you’ll not get the next one.

[ashen wharf]

You are saying old server users should just be stocking for months what new servers can get in less than a month

[abstract gate]

Or you can hear all the people saying that spending the second something lands in your inventory is a whale’s game.