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Is there any possibility to check total pay out of battle pass in summary view?
I am sure one of these CC's has a list compiled, waiting for the arc to drop so they can release their videos.
And hoard information until then, when they can refer you to their video.
I will wait til one of the sheep watch it, and then ask them.
lol.
Kidding, I will just go into the arc itself and look at it, and do some simple math in a few minutes. Less time than it would take to watch their intros.
Hey scopley how about you give people a heads up on things like โhey you will need a free scrapyard for the next arc so donโt start scraping a shipโ. So what are people supposed to do that have 7 days remaining on a ship being scraped? Way to go.
No way man.
Boy..... That second builder was the first time I ever spent money on the game. At $5 I felt it added tremendous value and I've been excited for the second researcher but.....$20?! That was a cheap shot to the players.
Please drop the cost to be inline with the builder. That will get so many more players to buy in.
How else do people get a leg up on leaderboards except at someone else's misfortune?
If they had introduced a bulk pack with both for $25, before the $5 builder, would you have bought it then? At $25 to get both, a second builder and a second research queue, would it have been worth it?
To me, the answer is absolutely yes.
ridicilous PR strategies
u will loose most fans over long period of time
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All a matter of perspective, I suppose.
Wait a second theyโre charging 4x the amount for a second research as a second builder????
Perhaps I would. If they kept the $20 price but included the battlepass I could live with that too.
It's just a cheap shot but to scopley if they can get 1 million people to spend $5 or 250,000 people to spend $20 it's the same money to them.
I'd love to see the statistics on it but I suspect they got a lot more people like me who have never spent before to actually invest in their game. They should have done that again.
Anyone else pissed off that there's going to be a scrapping related event, with no warning, and it's impossible to speed up ships already scrapping?
Wtf scopely?!?!
@distant barn I've been griping about it myself. But the trolls are out in force, not the people who actually inflicted this on us.
what makes it worse is you cannot hop alliances for helps anymore
You guys at Scopely are totally nuts. With one hand you give kinda awesome things but with your other hand you even take away much more. The second builder was 5โฌ, now the second research are 20โฌ, I mean really? Did you realize that you could have gotten even more money so it makes sense to increase the cost??
Also, I know that Franklin on higher ops was kinda useless, but instead of rebalancing an existing content, you decided to make a new one, sell it for tons of money instead, I know, you also need money, developing, employees etc. are not free, but this is very bad PR strategy. And on OPS 32 I should really get Franklin bps from the battlepass instead of the new Franklin A? Really? I should really get on ops 32 a ship which requires a level 17 shipyard? That's just ridiculous.
I feel like more and more that even if you make few good events, arc whatever, you make tons of bad things, making poor little players feeling horrible. Thank you, I think at this point I should really consider that I have to stop spending money on the game, supporting the developers and just walk away.
Really!?!? God damn Idiots!!!
you are supposed to scrap your maxed old franklin for new franklin-a its free, the second franklin is so you can have both
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just get the elite its bundled with a ultra research pack and its only 10 extra
why they dont explain it like normal human beings and just add stuff
so franklin a bp u get from scrapping maxed franklin?
but why do i need a second franklin?????? makes no sense
if less than ops 35 dont scrap your franklin
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if ops35+ and maxed scrap your franklin and build new one
@modern estuary If your scrapyard isn't busy. Like some of us who actually use the scrapyard.
Seems fair, but this was not in the patch notes. Did not they think that this is a major thing and should have given information about it for lower players or newer server players?
yes it is
been busy for last 5 days
@modern estuary Try this.
unfortunate timing
@modern estuary Scopely's, not mine. And I'm not the only one. If the intent was to irk people more, they're winning prizes.
curious though you got epic g4?
so if we're under ops 35, this Battle Pass event is useless?
@modern estuary Not gonna dilute what I'm trying to get across to feed your curiosity.
we need to be ops 35 to get Frank-A to do the events?
im curious to see how an epic g4 fairs agains these new swarms
way to make the whole arc useless for the big majority of your players
@worthy gull Well, even the ones it would be useful for, who actually PLAY the game, are getting penalized, so it's not as if anyone is happy except the people who just throw their wallets at Scopely and don't actually play the game.
that's my point. i'm f2p and i've played every single arc/BP event/overflow
2/10 is gonna be very useful for raiding
now i'm being shut out b/c i'm still ops 33
the ship is not event locked though when you can max your franklin and have shipyard at 35 you will still be able to get the bp for new ship
yeah, but it sounds like you can't do some of the events until you have a frank-a
you can it will just take longer using the original franklin
(let alone a max franklin)
so all that talk about reducing grinding was just hogwash?
Okay I can deal with longer and still get it done. The Franklin is a cheap repair ship
Not even maxed the Franklin -0 still one gun away
1.5 million of modulators to go with all reducing research done
Really $20. U can keep the 2nd researcher
And BPs to build another franklin ...... WTF how about FMs to upgrade the one I have thats stuck at T5??????
With 22k per run
My official review of the new arc?
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I donโt understand the Franklin BPs in the battle pass. This will be the third event where you earn a free one. I didnโt want the second and really donโt want a third. Does anyone not have one yet? Even if you did earn one here, it will still take forever to grind the FMs needed to max. Even with the research completed.
I need about 700 runs for that last gun alone
Do you need franklin A for new dailies? Killed some 35s and 39s and no score registered. Daily says you get a bonus for Frank A.
Probably Lag, just like everything else
Same as with the incorrect BpS in battle pass
Hi - does anyone know if I should i upgrade my ops before starting the new arc? will the battlepass update the rewards or am i locked already (i'm lvl39 and could go 40 before starting the events but will use up most of my speedups) thanks ๐
locked already
arc started at 11am EST - 1 hr earlier than normal
If you havent scored points its supposed to adjust, but not 100% sure
I'm ops 35 and did the Swarm event in 2 and half hulls of my T4 B'Rel against lvl 32 swarms because my Franklin is scrapping so the events are easily doable without the new Franklin
Is anyone able to explain the Franklin Aโs t1 warp core? Iโm ops 37 but canโt seem to find its access ๐
No idea how you get those at the moment, I'm guessing it may be the same as the original where you get those from missions
Do the Franklin researches (swarm weakpoints etc) also count for the Franklin-A?
Yes
They all do except the cost reduction research that only works on the Franklin 1.0 not the A
Thanks ๐
Can we talk about how there are events planed that ops 35+ without a Franklin already maxed cannot participate in?
This event is not possible (at all) for any ops 35+ player without a maxed franklin
Compliment incoming:
These dont come a ton from me ๐คฃ
I do like the new ticketed events. Its less sophies choice than last time. Where it was either help your alliance or help yourself. So good job scopley!
Now i gotta take a shower...
Sooo i bought second research for 19.99... goto start a research after and can only do the one i have currently running.. is this a bug?
Sorry if this was already asked but does anyone know if you'll be able to get the Franklin-A without buying it? I don't see bps as rewards in any of the battle pass milestones
Excellent, thanks!
If anyone's listening.... Borgmada rewards are complete crap. 1200 probes for a 35 epic is laughable
Also needing new FM modulator sucks
That's not new, they always sucked
We were all hoping we had seen the last of those Borgmadas
If they fix the rewards like to 200k probes ot wouldn't be bad
Or that they would be improved before they made us revist them
No rewards aren't changing
The app requires an update
There is literally an event coming that retroactively requires a max ship
How is this a thing
$copely: You're a bunch of greedy, opportunistic dickheads for bumping the cost of the second research slot 400% over the second builder. Shameful.
American company chooses profits. More at 11.
funny though its not an american company
oh apparently it is now forgive me
So I can go back to what it was?
they used to be main headquatered but they found out americans are dumb
The joke is dead, stop beating it
@rough mulch will the research items for Franklin that were added to the galaxy tree still work with the Franklin-A?
Yes all of them except the cost reduction research
Earning the event ticket feels awful. Like it makes me regret spending my time playing this game
This isnโt about profits over time. This is about squeezing out all the money they can before an investor exit, probably in the next quarter.
So, I have ship skin shards (76) from the last event. Will I get to use them to unlock these new ship skins?
What are we supposed to do with all the 'old' frequency modulators? Now that the MK2 is needed for Franky2.0?
Until ship skins let me make my ViโDar hot pink, I will not be satisfied.
shouldn't be skins, should be color palettes and you customize how you use them
Why does lvl 39 swarm count for the lvl39+ swarm daily?
So we will get the BPs for a โnewโ old Franklin in battlepass, but what about the special warp pieces to tier it up. In the store maybe later???
How do you get this?
You get the new Franklin in battlepass? I only get BP for the old one on level 35
Everyone gets bp for the old one
Anyone figured out if there is a way to unlock new Franklin without paying up?
should have the normal franklin for free at the end of battlepass
if you do all the events
Whats the build time on Frank A
I'm putting this here because #๐-galaxy-chat is a mess where actual questions get lost in the ranting.: Am I missing something on how to acquire the Plasma Blast projectile refit? Does it require multiple currencies or is the converter just not there yet?
@solid quail you can scrap a maxed out 'old' franklin!
Doesn't even have to be max. Just Tier 9. Or, if you have a few somehow, you can do several at lower tiers. But, that's kind of rough.
I don't understand the fixation with the Franklin, my Vahklas does just fine with Swarms
Swarms quickly outpace the Vahklas. You're still on the lower level ones, I imagine.
Not spending 5x the trit and speed ups
Level 26, hoping to go higher soon
Go hit a 30 swarm w your Vahklas
I CAN do the 28s and 30s, but not as many before repairs
Lucky to hit one, lol
Regardless, I probably won't bother with the Franklin much at all๐คทโโ๏ธ
What's up with the warp range for the new swarm systems?? 75 warp is pretty steep
Any good swarm crews with 5 to increase those new modulators?
Well, more and more events for high levels to get higher?
There is a refinery to change them into the new ones
@drowsy roost I had the same opinion, until I had to deal with 50 lvl 32 swarm a day. Franklin pays off in the end
The non borg jaylah increases rewards
Probably wait until I get enough Blueprints for it then
this arc
@lunar chasm Iโm kind of less than thrilled by a prospect of scrapping a ship that just started paying off, to start a new grind ๐
Franklin is much cheaper to repair in speedups and rss than valkhas or any other ship. Invest in it when you get it is my advice. Easy source of daily points
Your loss
I haven't needed to do Swarms to finish my Dailies yet, but I'm sure that's coming
Are the new daily swarm broken or just me ?
I love it when people say I can do my swarms without a franklin. They just don't know whats coming ๐
I had a ball buster of a laugh at the swarmada power ๐
Then when they get there they are like CRAP I need a Franklin. Why didn't someone tell me it takes a year's worth of grinding to get the mods to tier it?
still blows my mind to see folks running around in swarm 32/35 with a saladin or somesuchthing. Actually, you should talk to your guys about that. I see them in there pretty often
Trust me, I tried, they don't listen. They will when they have to start hitting 35s and higher.
So I guess I'll just finish Swarms Daily now, should have the Franklin by the end of this Arc
@fresh peak will there be a way for people to get the warp drive components so they can upgrade the original franklin as well as new franklin?
Those are found in the swarm missions and by upgrading your station
thats all good if you maxed your first franklin but to upgrade a second one?
Ummm, I never really thought to do that, so good question.
Might spring for the $100 BP too, get more shards for Jaylah...could get her unlocked by the end as well
Last repost, really hoping for an answer. But, maybe there just isn't one, yet.: Am I missing something on how to acquire the Plasma Blast projectile refit? Does it require multiple currencies or is the converter just not there yet?
you can win them from events
event just not yet available but its coming in this arc
Pretty sure PB shards aren't out yet
if you look at the refit, though, it appears to take Rare Projectile Shards (which I have 144 of), maybe in addition to the Plasma ones?
Its takes both Mox. 50 rare projectile, and 50 PB shards
The main reason I'm even curious is that on his video, DJ seemed to say we may already have enough shards to get it at arc drop
Wouldn't be a new scopley arc without intoducing a new type of currency.
Lol
49.99 IN STORE. only seen it once in six months Frankin Warp pack
Frankly (no pun intended) I'm a little amazed they didn't bring in a new type of grind again. Got worms last time, was expecting something else equally dumb this time around.
swarms ๐
there need to be a free way too i only need 1 rare warp core component
I ran 7-5(c)-Tlaan for a long time to max modulators. Killed less swarm than PMT but gained more modulators.
I wouldn't bet on that, you know they love to nickle and dime folks. Explains why you had to buy 2 separate packs to get the Franklin at times, if you didn't go the free route in Arc stores.
it makes the second franklin useless without being able to upgrade it for free
You need to max your franklin to get the full BPS for the Fanky A
yes lady but you need 200 so max your franklin BEFORE you scrap it
no need to max. Level 41 is enough
you get 200 if franklin is maxed at t9 lvl 45
So I would have to only paid $20 more to get it
If I scrap now
I have to think about that
Lol thank you
dont do it wait til you max it
That $20 may save a lot of grinding FMs
If you start a new Franklin from Tier 1 you are going to have to Tier it to say T6/7 to get the extra 50 bps you need. I wouldn't do that. That would suck
after this grind is done you might have enuff lol
Not to mention you cannot get the special items needed to tier the Franklin without paying
I have a second Franklin and the FMs but cannot upgrade it
@abstract gate @fresh peak you need to give us a way to get the warp drive components for franklins for free for those who have a 2nd franklin
I can wait on the A, I got the sarco for free, a lot of players are still waiting for that, although it doesn't do much since TC has all but stopped on my server.
i need just 1 rare warp drive component then i can max out my 2nd franklin so i can scrap one and keep the other
So if I get the Franklin from this Event, I would have to max Tier it to get the Franklin-A? Or am I missing something?
Pretty much CB
Lame
and be ops/scrapyard/shipyard 35
I'm sure there will be a pack with the BPs at some point, but it will likely be a $100 thing.
Where do you get tickets 4 ticket events?
that mod @abstract gate @fresh peak maybe add them to the battlepass rewards
You are gifted 10 each day wake
in your SMS
Oh I'm sure
Ticketed event Separatisit Attack... why are level 26 bosses only awarding 390 points instead of 520? And am I the only one who thinks these point requirements for each MS are ungodly?
They made a Sep event where Seps are a terrible way to do it. Go kill 40s and get 10x the points that the bosses are worth.
I found it easier to just hunt my usual hostiles at 2k a pop.. the worms and separatists are a McGuffin. but it is a steep milestone series
They are. Look in your gifts section.
If you don't see them, restart your game. If you still don't, update your client. If you still don't see them, uninstall and find a different game ๐
get thee gone. troll ๐
Why do you have to mess with the fun?
So at 390 per L29 boss I have to kill 598 Seperatists to finish the hostile ticket or if it just that the bonus isnโt working itโs 150
Is there or will there be a trade-in for FMs to take the overstock players have been unhappy with, exchange them for the F-A FMs, in this arc?
just go kill 40s. 10x the points.
I would if I had the power what is your highest ship power?
You can probably succeed in Wolf or Mempa/Yadalla (38s). Ignore the ship power numbers, they are not that strong in either system.
Ah the special hostile go me looking going whaaaaat the hell.............
I crew and send the pid out there now
That make 38 L40โs
My Franklin is Tier 8 lvl 40, should I wait to scrap it?
yes
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Somehow for the ticketed event for killing hostiles the separatist bosses only yield 3 x the point score for the hostile lvl 26 rather than 4 x, as it says they should in the description... 130 x 4 is 520... not 390... 130 x 3 is 390... so unless math has changed significantly since I was in school, the scoring for this event is screwed up...
Or 100 L38โs
Thanks for the tip. Why they call it a Separatist Hunt when they suck as a method to completion is beyond me... Scopely logic at its best.
I'm done with all the events
It sounds obvious but did anyone confirm if you need 4* ship research to build Franklin A?
Hum yes, wait ๐ you need to scrap it only at lvl 45 or you won't have enough to build the new Franklin ๐
level 41 is enough
@lethal quarry โฌ๏ธ
Thanks
Where do you find 29 bosses?
@sonic cloud you can build it at ops 35 so won't need 4 ship research for it, same as jelly
I got 520 for a boss kill. However hitting them is pointless since you can score more pts by killing a lvl 32. Not sure why they call it a separatist event without making the pts worth even hitting one
Our server is getting 390... but agree itโs pointless
The New Lvl 39 swap systems dont count towards the dailies?
Took the Black Jelly into the lvl 39 swarm systems and did not get credit for Defeating at L39+ Swarm for the New dailies
I think that may be lag. The 390 is the "bonus" amount. You'll prob get the 130 eventually
They cant give more points for separatist cause they know they broke them when they took burning away, they just want a different graphic
I'm on server 51 and I'm getting the full 520 points. the banner is only displaying 390 but when I check the event tab the points are adding up correctly.
Their banners are always jackedup
If Iโm not mistaken we should be able to get some Jallayah shards but from where? Anyone knows?
Why the hell didn't they include Freq mods in the rewards for battle pass?
Wish I never built the first franklin - it takes for ever to upgrade and likely will never be better at killing swarms than my max Sally
1.5 hr repair time vs 7.5
Don't really care about repair time - I get more speed ups everyday from dailies than I need
same with repair costs - I have enough available rss and don't worry about ship repairs
yup but at lower levels you dont have access to a saladin
Anyone have he event detalis for Mining mayem/apex outlaw/prelude?
@languid jolt yep like instead blueprint
@languid jolt try swarm 37 lol then ask again. Also try a swarmada
Oh yes ofc can't get warp 75 in a sally
6 iss jelly got wrecked by a swRmafa so you think your Sally will cut it
Event This Scopely. You SCREWED me on today's Ticketed event. I decided to do Combat Prep for the recruit tokens only to find out that upgrading Defense Platforms DOESN'T count.
Feeling a little cheated here. I have a Frank, why would I ever want to build a second one. At least give me bps for the new one. I can't build it yet, but at least they'd be useful.
@trim pumice never has counted since says officer xp and ship xp
@abstract gate max old one scrap it get free bps for new one it's not difficult to read
Ideas on where the new interlock can be found?
Dopely and killing of the battlepass
@abstract gate plus old one can't kill 37s us
Read that where? I must have missed it.
@quiet cloud probably from upgrade missions after completing new swarm chain
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@abstract gate got to your resources tab where swarm biomaterials are. Lvl 35 plus can scrap old franklin max tier and xp lvl and get all bp for franklin a to build it
I have no need to kill 37s yet, but that just leans into my point though. I have a Frank, as many do, why give me the bps for one in the Battle Pass?
Also find new bio resources after ops 35
@abstract gate because some haven't got 1
Last event store you got half this bp you get other half
=franklin unlock
Once you max franklin scrap at lvl 35, get bps to build franklin a
Unless I did my math wrong, there are 90 in this month's Battle Pass. I'm gonna look again.
Then it's full unlock, maybe some people started new like new servers
And those that collect ships can build a t1 one for their collection
Cos ofc some people don't want to scrap a t9 ship or pay 100 for new franklin a
Keeps everyone happy
Confirmed, 90 bps on the free track.
Doubt you will be able to upgrade a 2nd old one though, since interlocks were mission based
But dare say will be a pay option for those that must
Same as b4
I don't see where you can scrap it. Must be level related. I'm only 28 and you have to be 35 to even build the Frank A.
Youre scrapyard must be lv 35
"Fixed an exploit that allowed players to gain unlimited help requests by leaving and joining different alliances."
Thx for fixing something which was one of the very few things, which helped player. But old bugs like pike-bug not synch'ing properly with all officers (like stonn, Culber, and for sure many more) stay since years...
I like the Franklin A. As a lvl 30 player it is something I know i can get eventually as i contine to work on my franklin. It doesnt require bp accumulation that may be lvl locked or hoping to get months later thru an event store (like previous ships). Also it doesn't bring in a new mechanic that i have to wait and catch up on months later. I like this idea as a way to add ships.
Arc gives normal franklin bps
Yes for the small group of players that dont have a franklin, thats nice they finally made the bps easy to get (shouldve happened awhile ago). For the majority of us, its a waste of a battlepass prize.
@inland hamlet , where in Combat Prep does it say Officer XP?
The event SPECIFICALLY says gain power by building. It doesn't say by building a ship or anything relating to officers
Should become available via missions
Running the new missions now so we will see
I'm not very definitive as my reference material isn't very good on the topic. Do let me know if you definitively know whether they do or don't if you would be so kind ๐
I will. Makes me wonder if it's the top cost mission return to the death place or whatever it is that will give em
Reading #๐-galaxy-chat , I see @pale wind mentioning a chain that hasn't been released. He might know more.
Again the highest levels are the most advantaged and those of us below will be stuck for years now, and leave the game out of abject boredom. The high levels will have even fewer to play with and you will lose your whales too.
@pseudo rover did you get us the good rewards back? Lol
Just reading up. So built a second Franklin. Had the bp sitting there. You can get to tier 2. Then stuck as you need part only given through mission you already have done a long time ago
So hoping to keep your main Franklin you worked so hard to max out. Wont happen unless you buy the ship
You can - of course - buy a pack for the warp components on swarm Sunday
Unless your collecting maxed ships. Once you get a Franklin A, youll prob never use a regular anyway
Anybody know how you get the Franklin warp interlock Mk11 part? Iโm ops37 but have no option to receive the part to enable its tiering to T2. . . .
Cheers Zod. Not had the mission, so iโll raise a ticket. ๐
I think it will be given out later.
Why can't we get more arc related stuff in the BP milestone rewards? Old Franklin BPs? Few officer shards that means nothing a it will take a year to grind out the rest, if I'm lucky? New skin parts, where the rest i will need to unlock will be available never?
At least in the last arc we got the green beam...
EVERYTHING in LB events is heavily paywall locked, so is totally irrelevant for 99% of the players. Did nobody in scopely understand how demotivating that is?
Seriously considering not buying the extra BP this arc
which are new Swarm systems?
The parts will be available through a mission chain being sent as a gift chest. We are checking on the ETA for that chest now.
Ok
@maiden helm Mind the language - no cussing allowed here.
"...above level 35" soooooo, level 36?
I think so. Weird wording
swarm systems for new daily where?
This makes is horse ๐ฉ
Since when did scoplay make the ferengi traders raidable from another player
They have always been that way. If you are over-protected limits, that is one of the OP items.
No when they first launched you could not steal them from another player
Yes, you could.
Panic said so himself
It's been that way since the beginning. We disproved his statement almost right away.
I was here when they launched and no they was not
Cause anytime I tried it just gave me the probes
Not the trinket
Are they going to sort out the daily bug? I have completed one of the new swarm but no kill have been registered.
Mine has in the new 35 system but not the original 35 system
Yes they were if you went over protected you could loose them.
What systems are the level 25 and 26 ferengi traders in?
I even killed some 39s but still not registered
Not on server 17 I tried taking them from someone opc with a trinket and only got the probes no trinket
Will there be an event or new mission line that awards a set of original Franklin Warp Drive components?
Hey, donโt forget that there is always a player whoโs better than you and the very same player was once the same level you are now. And no you donโt need to spend any money to get any of the pre lvl 40 rare or epic ships. All you need to do is play.
Really more then 8 hours repair time? My maxed franklin only needed 1,5 hours now 8?
And now the friendly alliance hopping lvl 43+ players are unable to hop and now gonna be bored because their builds are taking Months Now and instead of red triangles they hunting Blue triangles trying to grind to getting better. Yay.
And donโt forget the nearly 1 m tri for repair the franklin a! Iโm not sure if this is really 2.0 or only 0.9
Their research that decreases the time dont remove much off base. Almost like it is just a material pit to waste your material
Itโs like level up in reputation at the rogue faction, โohh you are better with me: pay more and get less!โ
And Iโm like: โsure I like you so much I give you all my moneyโ
Scopely's motto is 'More for Less'
Sorry, but @keen ledge is correct itโs been that way since day 1. Yes we were told they werenโt, but that was incorrect
I think you meant less for more...
No no - you do/pay/grind More for Less...
Hopefully theyโll send more speed ups as rewards. Buying them with latinium will help also. I agree that them removing what they call bug is bad decision. My msg was aimed for people who are upset that they donโt have Franklin A but lvl 35+ does. Up until level 36 everything is relatively quick to build
I've already said it in my alliance chat and discord. If this sort of BS keeps up, I will be turning griefer until I run out of resources, then I will uninstall the game and say so long. I've only stuck around this long because I've got a great group that's fun to play with (and gripe with).
Oh, and I'm lvl 41 with a Jelly, so people are definitely going to feel it
only req is ops 35 & shipyard 35
@abstract gate "only"
it's an expansion on 18months of gaming. Maxing the orginal frank was a serious grind. why shouldn't it be for others?
The first few tiers need only g3, the g4 is needed later. Francky 2 is op locked like the 1rst
Disabling helps is not silly.. Getting that advantage going through 3 alliances is the silly part
You know the real reason people are jumping alliances are territory particles not helps
How was that silly. When you reach high levels it's the only way to allow you to advance without spending metric tonnes of lat or money
I've got all the particles on my server, I don't need to jump for that. I need more help on the 300+ day builds I've got or the 60+ day researches
Never seen it allowed in anyyyyyy other game ...
I've also never seen a game that charges $99 as the base for all packs
and yes there are long builds in that game too just like this one
What's your point?
When your happy a pack is only $20 there is an issue
They don't make ya buy it ๐คฃ which is why I don't .. Not spending $100 on a pack that does literally nothing to help you advance with one pack..
I wasn't happy the builder was $5 and the researcher was $20 400% increase is the scopely way tho
Just because you didn't take advantage of the alliance hoping to get additional help, doesn't mean it wasn't a major advantage for those of us who did
It also encouraged us to treat the other alliances as people, and let us get to know each other
Although, I understand having servers constantly at war is of benefit to $copely
If they dropped random $20 packs with decent stuff like the shakedown crew. They would make more because players would jump on the "discounted" pack
No, they just need to cut the crap by 4
So maybe they can fix the hundreds of days build times?
Parebelum event gives tons of latinum. How much? 25k per event. That's 80 days worth of speedups.
Perhaps in your server. Not mine. We have an agreement between alliances for exchanging territories regularly. So particules are not a problem. 60, 90, 150, ... days of construction / research are a problem. Thatโs why we jump between alliances.
There is so few items that you can get fair exchange on latinum. Speedups are one of few things that is worth spending latinum
Y'all are funny getting mad cause you can't exploit the system anymore. Makes me laugh
Laugh, you are free ...
Won't laugh so hard when scopely decides to pull the plug on this game because those of us who see this as a big problem decide to walk away. I've spent way more than I should have on this game, and I am currently debating it's even worth my time anymore
What are you mad about?
Y'all are too funny
Lots of things with this game, but currently the biggest frustration was the removal of the ability to hop to other alliances for helps
I am 1000% sure that was a never an intended mechanic ... I have never seen another game allow it either, so quit.. Go play a new game that doesn't let you do it either and start all over.. Spend double what you invested in here .. No one makes you spend that money
fair enough i guess
but yeah i dont think it was ever intended
i mean its that kinda game after all. they increase time needed rapidly
but its never fun having something taken away
Yeah, but they probably weren't aware it was going on till it was being mass exploited
Honestly, if it had been fixed a year ago, or even back when I was in my early 30's, I'd probably have never noticed or cared.
yeah im still 29 so
It should have been addressed in the bug fixes tho
To me that means they fixed it without even knowing they did it ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Once they seen it was fixed then said oh that was intentional ๐คฃ๐คฃ
They knew about is cause they added the 8 hour cool down to discourage it and did a survey on it as well, think people are just angry that they took something that has been in the game for years, especially cause we know that whales, having exploited it themselves, asked them to remove it
I am glad it gone.. Now they need to fix the territory rss sharing by locking it to the people in the alliance during the takeover period. Strong alliance who have the zones shouldn't be exploiting for extra shiz the small fry can't even touch..
Why are you happy it is gone?
Because it was people exploiting a known bug/glitch..
you all bish all day bout bug need fixing and when you get one to work for you the pitch forks come out.. It's funny as hell
when it taken away
Not sure about the whale part๐
Truth is the game is imbalanced you do all this research build your base and time and cost scale exponentially but the resources and materials donโt.
The Refinery has been a joke from the beginning and although they brag about increase in event payouts itโs nothing close to whatโs needed.
I agree 100%, but exploting bugs is only compounding the problems
Then they add new content and pass over minor details and major bugs
How when everyone can do so?
Hopping allowed players to progress without some of the cost but they miss out on alliance rewards
We just did it when there wasnโt an alliance event
Most of our server did that
The only people on our server who disliked help jumping were the few who no one would invite
That I know about
Cause that isn't the definition of exploiting a bug, right? ...
But faction lock was a bug, how is this different?
Hey, if we are exploiting one bug then how much are Scopley exploiting us when the game has itself hundreds of bugs?
Faction lock not a bug. They have fully announced it
Itโs the small details that leave us feeling screwed.
Like scraping your second Franklin which was a hard slog despite spending the money for warp core etc. THEN all you get are prints for a NEW FRANKLIN but none of the parts or even upgraded materials youโll need for NEW AND IMPROVED.
Alliance hopping helped players and hurt Scopley that's why it was stopped
I play bug free 99% of the time..
Faction lock was a bug, but when they removed it people complained so they put it back
I'm having an issue with the new swarm Dailies, I'm 43 it say 20 43+ and 25 35+, However the 35, 37, 39 and 41s don't count only 43s
Pew pew must never play ๐
Helps hopping didn't hurt any players, since it was even for everyone. Well I guess if no one would invite you to their Alliance it hurt you. It basically gave everyone equal opportunity to free speed ups. Scopley wants us to pay for those speed ups so they shut it down (two years later)
No you don't, a lot of the officers are bugged vs their descriptions, you play with bugs 100% of the time
You never had to pay to get the cores it was obtainable in missions; Frankie A will also have missions to get the parts + Level locked
Not for a second wasnโt
Faction lock wasn't a bug, max faction rep was 10m and factions lock at max rep so we worked towards maxing the rep and scopely moved the goal post and removed the locks we work so hard to get, that's why the locks were put back, Scopely even admitted that they didn't know players were actually locking all 3 factions and even planning towards maxing 3 factions
I got both free they ran the event twice loved my second cut my swarm times in half. AND THE REWARDS WERE GREAT
Scopely not understanding the player base is their trademark
They apologised and the locks were only gone for a week so building the rep we lost in a week wasn't that difficult to be fair though
Fact is youโre being screwed by all the bugs in the game. Loads of dead ships all over the place, excessive lag means you hit more than you might need to. A banner system that stops and blocks the screen...just for starters.
But without those features/bugs we wouldn't have anything to complain about, wheres the fun in that ๐๐คฃ
Enough is enough though. Itโs gone too far.
There are other games out there. If you're not happy.. No ones stopping you from playing something else
Rip ally jumping about time
Anyone point me in the direction of info on scrapping the Franklin, building the Franklin-A etc? Performance v L32s and L35s for Frank-A etc etc
Scrapping the franklin is 24 hrs without helps
That is with scrapyyard 35 and one hit on apex chop shop
they knew about going on helps holidays for 2 years. They implemented the 8 hour lockout to "fix" the original exploit (which was chain leaving/joining your own alliance to reset it). It took them 2 years to actually create a fix that didn't break other things worse.
I played this game for the social element @tawny olive Scopley have ruined it due to greed.
Heard building it is 60days. I really hope they fix/address that @fresh peak
Scrap Franklin 1.0 at T9 level 41 or higher will get you the BPs needed to build the Franklin A, Franklin A build time 56 days, scrapyard level 35 is required
Lmao social elements are free bro
it's 60 days build base. with helps you get down to around 50 days.
Still think it will kill the game, was lucky had just finished a help tour to do my 70days for ops 39 but unless there is a serious reduction in build and research times likely quit when I hit the next big build
Ugh 56 days! ๐คฎ
about 11k latinum to rush finishing it
I have enough, but dang
Franklin A is needed on the 8th if you are Ops 35+
Thanks @tawny olive @heavy cradle @pale cobalt ๐
Never mind @tawny olive
So FTP ops 35+ can ignore this arc
How they expect FTP to build a 56 day build ship in just over 24 hours is a joke
not really
I'm not quite FTP, but I have consistently had at least 11k latinum around for over a year.
That goes bye bye fast with epic ships
with the changes to the dvor, I have even more. Just have to make a choice on if you are willing to spend that 11k to rush it.
Ops 35+ have to do swarm armadas located in warp 75 systems need the Franklin A unless you are the only ops 35 with a maxed Epic ship
@tawny olive I enjoyed hopping to other Alliances for helps and meeting other players. It was kinda fun. Spoiled it now for me. There were other things that have been stopped...but never mind. It doesnโt matter.
But you can still go to get particles and help fill out alliances for takeovers
If u play right u don't need to ally jump I had over 500hrs just from events
๐คฃ I so happy it was taken out. Exploiting bugs are bannable in other games, so thank your lucky stars they aren't handing those out
the fact they "fixed" helps, but didn't fix the whale stacking and hijacking TC is beyond me.
Have any of you seen Franklin-A upgrade costs?
like, it's okay for your high paying players to extort a server, but helps?!? we gotta put a stop to that stomps foot
Actually faction lock was described as an "unintended bug" by panic ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Territories are a joke to begin with. p2w controls everything and you should know that as your alliance has plenty of them
You answered your own question โwhalesโ
good luck in not using that for scrapping your franklin. Oh, and remember that you'll have 400 DAY upgrades soon.
@tawny olive forget it mate.
so 500 hours is 1/24th of what you need
pointing out the hypocrisy more than actually asking a real question, lol
and faction lock at 10m was removed for a hot minute last year.
and was QUICKLY reversed. like within days.
Your missing the point the game isn't a race to see who can get bigger the fastest and you wonder why there's so many bugs ya trying to race a game that's intended to take time geek logic
But again, the whales asked them to put them back, and here the whales asked them to remove them
Exploiting a bug is not a one way street. We are also being exploited.
it's not intended to take a long time, it's intended that you pay. It's a pay 2 win game, period.
every other mechanic is to punish you for not paying
One of the main problems is that nobody believes they fixed this bug to give players a better experience, they fixed it to make more sales only
Doubt whales asked to remove help tours - had one with us the other day with a build or research over 300 days...
Well pay or stop moaning I don't pay I'm happy to just plod along
100% Any game you play will want that $$$$$$$$$$
So there a ticket event but no tickets?
Swarm war has 10 tickets for the sms
@twin karma tickets come from battlepass
Finish the swarm SMS event?
or sms event yeah
One of our alliance who is on the whale discord said they were asking for it and voted on it
Tickets can be bought for cash and earned via Battle Pass milestones
mind you, if they cared about profit that much, you'd think theyd have done it quicker rather than wait 2 years
there's a whale discord?
strangely clash of clans doesn't do it, and is consistently higher in the category than STFC. Yes you can pay to get more rss/unlocks.... but most of their money is on their monthly pass and consumables that you don't need to be a max level player.
So much hate this game needs more of this
Jesus, that's some strange thinking... wow
Gear and rss is their gimmick I am sure
Or heroes
@twin karma - do the swarm event, the top milestone is 10 tickets today
it's not in the battlepass
Lordmobile is gear. Like ships here.. Only they are all rng and cost wayyyyyy more moniesssss
all my heroes are max. all my gear is at near top tier. I have purchased their $5 monthly pass pretty regularly for cosmetics and extra mats, but it's $5.
Have you seen any Franklin-A upgrade costs?
Not yet no
This game should be 5-20 packs.. They would make so much more money with a broader scope of clients and still have that $99 pack hanging there, but they are dumb with it
1000% this. QFT
On the plus side they will run out of letters to add to ships eventually
voyager-J was in disco season 3...
Thanks, will keep a look out tomorrow so. Only one in my alliance that might bother scrapping thusfar so will hang on to see how much of a hole I'll dig myself if I scrap ๐คช
My Franklin 1.0 is still in the scrapyard and won't get the Franklin A until the arc ends I can't afford to rush a 56 day build
Sounds like many won't bother rushing it tbh
Iโm sure someone mentioned this but the dam new L35 swarm daily is Broken. You need to kill level 43 swarms to score points.
I was really looking forward to playing this arc it had so much promise but that 56 day build has ruled me out of the entire arc now
Maybe there's hope on the Vi'Dar side of things
Maybe but those borgmadas scare the crap out of me was not here for first run
I did today's events using my T4 B'Rel expensive yeah but thought it's only one day it's fine but using a B'Rel to kill swarm for a month is too expensive and time consuming and not being able to do the swarm armadas has killed the arc for me
And scopley why canโt we turn in frequency modulators for something or even the modulators mkII. Iโve got 50 million of them. With the Grandiose stability their game has Iโm going to crash the friggin thing with a truncation error soon.
Useless rewards if I remember. Just token armadas to damage and destroy for event points. Most just spent directives on the top level armadas to get the points for having spent the directives
Old mods can be converted in to the new mods in the refinery when you have the Franklin A
So those mods do have a use now they help with upgrading the Franklin A
I guess Iโll find out in 5 days since I had a ship already recycling. ๐
Would love a stock of them to work through, sounds like you'll be in good shape @tired cliff ๐
Some players have billions of the old mods ๐
@pale cobalt thanks for your advice and insights Cap, gnight!
I have around 4m of the old ones
Not in great shape for converting
Conversion rate is ops based I have seen one 200k old for 340 new I think it was and saw another from an ops 47 2m old for around 800 new
When I do finally have the A I will be doing both sets of dailies just to convert the old ones
If they let you do both and dont just replace your old swarm daily
New swarm daily events not working?
You're right they aren't for the 39's to count in daily goals you have to kill 41's, the 39's aren't counting for some reason
There is no new 35's can only hit 37's for the new modulators and I am guessing a lvl 35 hitting 37's won't go smoothly
I only had one Franklin so can't do any swarms now until the A is built
The Franklin A out of the box can kill 37's
Is a lvl 5 Franklin-A significantly better than a maxed Franklin?
It is better than a maxed Franklin yes by how much though I don't know
It'll really come down to the swarm weakpoints research, which I believe will apply to the A.
At level 5 with 10k weakpoints research bonus it'll probably be pretty close, below this the OG would likely be better, at max 30k the A probably about 80% more damage output overall. Will need to see how health stacks up though too.
All swarm research except the modulator cost reduction is applied to the Franklin A
Then my assessment stands as is.
Any info if they are offering any frank-a bps during the events?
only if you count scrapping your existing franklin
would be nice with all the swarm related events, and having the conversion tool, if they'd have events that gave out a bunch of modulators as a catch up mechanism.
Yeah, its n ot like it would take someone 6 months past the bp to finish a franklin...
I should finish mine about a month later. I just need 4mil modulators to finish t8.
will jelly be available in the event store this event?
If I scrap maxed Franklin, how do I get the cores again to upgrade it again?
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store, but why do you want to upgrade franklin? you'll have enough bps for a franklin A
Good question, i was mostly just wondering since I have a lot of freq mods
Hate to give up a maxed ship
A comparison of a lvl 5 Franklin A and a Lvl 45 Franklin against a 37 swarm
You can convert them in refinery once you have a Franklin A
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So, I still think this is dumb, but we confirmed that the swarmadas can be beat. On a surprising note, defeating one satisfied the conditions for all the swarm dailies. We had 2 jellies, an augur, and 3 franklin a's
Yes, we managed by using big ships. Possibly the most stupid armadas yet and as you noticed, only useful for finishing daily task as reward looks pathetic
Agreed, but definitely time saving. Maybe this was what scopely meant by giving us a better balance so we don't have to spend as much time grinding ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Could be. Refining biotics gives a reasonable reward and doing an armada for it is nice. Seems like a convoluted way of doing things
I scrapped a Max to Franklin and got nothing where do I find the tokens in order to turn them in for a Franklin a
No there's nothing there I'm not amused at all
Yes and just like that they're red there's nothing to turn in
Now you got me scared for when mine finishes in 3 hours
Or the most likely issue... did you update your game client?
And do you have shipyard 35?
hi all ... ask .. if i build frรคnklin-A now. Do I have disadvantages then? or will that be credited to the event ... later?
Silly question time, but: did you complete scrapping and have you actually collected the rewards? Might be sitting in your station interior waiting for you or something silly ๐ฌ
If the ship has been scrapped he should see 200 advance data cores at top of refinery screen. If not then he needs to raise a ticket
Would be a pain if the wrong shop was scrapped by accident
This build time is absurd though
And why no way to earn BPs
Every battle pass is getting more asinine
Worse still, at ops 44 it took me 8 hours to repair the lvl 5 Franklin A
yeah G4 ship won't be cheap on repair costs and speedups
swarms will be a waste of time again
Biotics conversion to Trit more than covers the cost
My new swarm dailies arenโt working I need lvl 35+ and 43+. I have killed 35s no points nor for 37s nor for 39s. I tried 43 with my jelly and that worked but almost killed jelly so no way is it worth it. I just hope when my scrapping finishes and I build Franklin A I can get it to warp 100 quickly!
Anyone else have the problem with new dailies?
Or he hasn't collected the scrap rewards. Which is doubly possible if he didn't do the update.
Cost was cheap, speed ups not so much
Dailies are bugged. No surprise there
People care about repair speedups? ๐ฌ
I donโt have any, so yes
Do the swarm research work for franklin A?
What do you do with all of yours?! ๐ฎ
Depends which research you mean, thereโs a few different ones
The new ship is slow, but is more powerful than the old one
I grind for faction rep
The galaxy once. I never payed attention when the maxed franklin didall jobs
Yes, they must be working
Must be a looot of grinding. I get 103 hours of repairs a day if I do all my dailies ๐ฌ
Sorry if this has already been asked, does anyone know where the warp component for the new franky is earned?
I kill 1000s of level 47s with augur, on my days off
Mission, events
anyone knows how to get warpcore for Frank A ... I am already lvl39
Surely Store too ๐
They are waiting for event today or tomorrow no doubt. Nice of them to do that
There will be a set of missions that give them out as you level up. The first mission will go out in the next few days.
Daily events pay out repair speedups by the truckload
yup but even then i still find myself getting very low, especially when grinding xp or rep
Not when your grinding for drops at Dohrmas for 4 hours a day
Not much point now though because the G4 ship drops are non existent. From 400 chests I get 1 bchor blueprint
drop rates are better from the home systems
I did notice a small improvement but not much tbh
I used to get 6bp a day, bchor and ktinga. Now just 2 a week
repair cost of the Franklin-A is a mistake ? 2 months !!!
Mine is 8 hours with whatever research and building buffs I have and I am ops 44
Lvl 5 Franklin
Any details of which Franklin, mods and swarm research works for the new Franklin A and which doesnโt. Guessing general swarm research works for both, but not so sure about the Franklin and mod research that is further along in the galaxy tab.
what OPs level are you?
active PvP for a few weeks will also drain 10k+ 30 mins in repair speedups per week
Well I know of building it takes like 50-60 days, but for repairing? o,O
repair? or you mean to build it??
no tier 1 is like 8 hours on a good dock
yea you dock level also helps alot with repairs time, and research
2 months to build a ship......Scopely you are really taking the piss now!๐ก๐ก
Hi! Anyone knows where I can get Missions for new Franklin?
thx - so i need wait for battlepass mission keys as i understood correct
Sounds like it's not related to the battlepass missions, unless something changed. Patch notes indicated that it will be given out in the gift tab.
Help me understand this....Scrap my max Frankie, then get a 62 day build for the A while events started for swarms? Where is the logic in that?
Next difficult to get to 39 swarm system which requires 80 warp
Not feeling the motivation for this anymore. Scopely is taking a brilliant game abd stuffing it up. Then it seems they just dont give 2 hoots about the players. Was it so difficult in getting players to build the A that it is finished by the time you wanted to start this arc and events?
Might be time to look elsewhere to spend my time and effort
Is it really ment that a low lvl needs to kill 1200 lvl 18 swarms to finish solo event?
nevermind previous comment. He rebooted game and it dropped down to 40 kills ๐คฃ
Is it worth it for a lvl 35 to get Franklin-a since I canโt upgrade it till ops 37?
it's stronger than a maxed franklin
I don't know where the 22 days come from, I built my Franklin A in a few minutes with minimal speed ups.
Define minimal))
Are you Ops 60 ๐
well how much lat equal 22 days and minus any 1 day speed ups you have.
At Ops 35 it took me 52 days after helps.
lvl 40 and I actually get 1000 lat a day so if you spend it on something else kind of your fault
and Doom if you are implying I drop cash you are wrong. I have just played for 2.5 yrs and don't play stupid.
are you sure? you just spent 50 days worth in speedups/lat without considering the cost
Anyone manage to defeat a swarm armada yet?
But how much better than a maxed Franklin
I still have plenty where that comes from, Like I said I save it and use on certain things.
Nice, anyone know the best crew for swarm armada?
so if you want info. My new Franklin A destroys around 20 lvl37 swams by using the it you get 3x bonus on kills so it cuts down the amount of ships you need to destroy for dailies.
My Franklin A can kill 32s in 1 round 35s 3 rounds. At level 5. So much stronger.
you can complete all dailies with one ship now.
No info about it but I assume it is kirk spock + khan, gorkon, nero , also pike moreau gaila... As usualy
Ok thx DoomYT๐
Load out being the usual officers to destroy hostile swarms. seems to still work the best. The armadas I tested give around 2M damage on lvl 40 Armada before you get destroyed and that is with Kirk load out
You definitely have to have several Franklin-A's to take down the armadas in lvl37 systems
We failed badly on the 40 armada ...xD
Unfortunately there are no many variations of armada crews... All that 100 other oficers are just to dilute the pool
Has there been confirmation whether normal Franklin research works on the Franklin-A?
Sup, buddy ๐
I would think once they release the mk II warp core and ppl can upgrade past the first tier it will be a much stronger ship
Q. Is the Franklin-A free?
A. Scrap a maxed Franklin 1.0 to get all the BPs needed
Q. I started recently/didn't bother with Franklin
A. Battlepass contains BPs for Franklin 1.0
Q. Does the Swarm research work for the new ship?
A. Swarm Targeting/Weakpoints/Jammer/Fortification works, Frequency Modulator Cost Efficiency doesn't as Franklin-A uses different modulators
Q. What do I do with all my old Frequency Modulators?
A. There'll be a converter
Q. How will I kill lvl 35 Swarms if I scrap my maxed Franklin?
A. Tier 1 Franklin-A should be as strong as a maxed Franklin
Doom, Not to sure on Nowons cut and paste actually happening. I don't know one alliance taking out a Swarm armada including his. Unless he has inside info from being a content guy
Sure ))
take this advice with a grain of salt due to not mentioning that scrapping would leave you unable to do events / build time for frank-a is more then 50 days
It is true... Yoy should be aware of 50 days
i know how trigger finger people are so they may not read lol
Better use old Fraklin its cheaper in repairs
9hrs repair time is excessive for a tier 1 ship
When the converter for old mods will be active?
It is already
Scroll all the way to the right on the resource refine tab
Thanks,find it
Gerne ๐
Such trust issues I talked to alliance about it before I started the scrap no other requisites right? Just scrap it right here I am now no franklin no new franklin no event......scrapped no rewards and 6 hours
This will kill you in round 15 of swarm armada
@frigid cipher you scrapped franklin lower than level 41?
If franklin is lower than tier 5 you will recieve nothing
So 4 ticket event it says extra points 4 separatist elites/bosses...where do I find those now, pareleon seems 2 have only normal separatists now ๐
they are the Boss ones,
just not the name on them
Oh - seem 2 get only 390 points 4 each...well - guess itโs back 2 searching 49 traders ๐๐
is that based on the Pop up banner? or calculating the points in the event?
It's because the bosses are lvl26
So should be giving 520per kill
Which is why your better off killing normal hostiles at higher lvls
Guess I can't do any swarm dailies for 2 months
alliance helps knock it down a few days, and then yea just have to use speedups and lat to get it donw faster
@keen ledge any news on when the new Franklin-A based mission chain will land? ๐
Yeah I don't have enough lat or speedups would have not scrapped my frankilin if I knew about this bull shit
I am now completely stuck for two months
Cheers @dire veldt . . . Patience. . . Ahh, iโve heard of that, thpugh i donโt subscribe to it myself. ๐
On my A, it costs 540k trit to fully repair. A whale ship.
Way to go scopley.. you neutered helps bug when players rotate around alliances to get helps speed up their buildings and researches . But YOU NEVER fix issue when we get kumari blueprints in w50 for killing hostiles .. wow REALLY USEFUL KUMARI in w50
They donโt seem to have any interest in scaling and optimizing...
.... 2k dil in my 4 hour chest ..totally worth it for an ops 41 player
62 days for Franklin A, 52 with helpโs team ... a Franklin T9 scrapp and an event where u must fight swarms ... what is the target ? Burning all the speed and go to the store and buy new one ? ๐คฌ
.... and they call it โrare giftโ in gifts section. I was referring to a most common issue just like you referred to this useless gift they give as rare. But they never seem to do right things to players.
But coming back on helps bug, many players try alliance hopping jumping alliances to reduce the time it takes to build and research . For example a 9 day build and 8 alliance hops will reduce it to 1d 20h .. same goes with researches ..
They never give out enough speed ups to pull through the building or research or ship build (in this case Franklin A takes 62 days .. ya kidding scopo?)..
yes ๐
I usually started help tours on anything 50d+ ...
Now Iโm stuck with 100d researches I probably wonโt touch until they rebalance
Any intel on if there will be bio collection events?
They 'fixed' the jumping fleet hopping
probably, I assume they are waiting for everyone to start building the 2 month long Franklin A before releasing a pack so everyone can play the game
Please fix the kumari bps also then .. thank you very much ๐
yes, in your news centre
Great, so I cant do any of them since I cant rush my 50 day FrankA build
um yea you can just use another ship
Dear scopley, this event looked super cool... really cool. But the build time of the -a sucks hardcore. Iโm getting real close to leaving. $99 for a ship or 2 months of speed ups isnโt a good choice either way.
Ha ha good one. Even my best ship cant kill a single 35 swarm
well dont need to kill the 35 swarm for normal Biominerals, just 32
Dear Scopely, thatโs totally unfair, that I become the old plans of the Franklin with level 34 in the battle pass! I do the the same quest and I demand equality in A-Plans. I must compete with higher Alliances and Levels > 35 in mostly every event. And therefore I am disadvantaged. Now you cheat for my profit again! No one will build 2 old Franklinโs! Thatโs stupid. Change the reward in the battle pass
As far as not having enough speedups, you can easily get enough Raw Latinum to refine in minutes, and should've been refining Latinum often since they released the update months ago for the D'Vor.
And by now, should have a D'Vor at least since there's been enough event stores to get the D'Vor for free, along with a Franklin.
as far as repairs go, the cost of repairing a g4 ship is tremendously better than repairing any other g4 ship when it comes to a Franklin-A repair.
But 1k lat per day is not much
I maxed out my D'Vor using event stores, get 1.5K Latinum a day from it
1k Latinum a day takes off 3 days in speedups equivalent.
you'd be able to speedup your Franklin-A in just a couple weeks instead of 2 months
also there's other ways to get speedups, such as dailies
couple weeks? too bad the events you need it in are sooner than that
Well, they already started it, so they've gotta deal with what they've got
everyone should have plenty of Latinum by now considering it's become way easier to obtain for months now.
people use lat all the time, just one bad timing and you could have drained your lat stockpile as well
and level 35+ should already know how the game works and that you should save until events you really want
Yeah, gotta be careful with how you spend, it's a strategy when it comes to events
it's a good ship, but it can be a trap if the circumstances had played out differently
Yeah, people can definitely trap themselves I reckon
Must have prime then. Iโm not getting 1k a day of refined lat. but I have like 7.5m of unrefined.
Anyone know what a tier 8 franklin scrap will net me on new A bp?
150 or 3/4 of what you need
I now see a $20 pack for 50bp. Might be worth it rather than grind 5 mil mods
They must of been smoking something when they picked the build time on it๐คฃ
smoking 100$ bills thinking about all the money they will make selling speed up packs
Well that assumed you were maxed.. Mine is only T7 I think
Either way I burned my lat and speedups still 35 days left for the a
@floral trail you scrapped your Franklin at tier 7?
No I meant my dvor
oh no, why would you scrap your D'Vor?
oh wait, nvm lol
sorry, early in the morning still xD
I haven't scrapped my dvor I just mean I get less lat daily assuming that I bother to mine it
Yeah, mine was tier 7 and i used the event store to get it to tier 9
then they had the change in mining speed and also the double refinery which I also got for free
I don't buy the prime research, except the level 42+ prime research which gives g5 materials that you can't get in game anywhere else.
although i will say, this arc is much better than the TOS arc so far, although we'll see what happens and if they continue to make it more auction events or not. I absolutely hate how many auction events there are. The TOS arc was just one auction event after another, I absolutely hated it.
i almost quit the game completely because of the TOS arc
@viral coral Wait til you find out that the new Franklin needs coils and interlocks mkIIs which can be yours for the low low price of 100 bucks or first born child.
@tired cliff i already see that they require mk2 warp drive cores, which you get from the missions which will drop soon.
The way they have been gouging lately I wonโt count On them being free.
they will be free in the Mission chain just like we did for the original Franklin
They're free, just the same as they were with the Franklin
Guess we will find out when the missions are out.
Don't forgot the $100 they are expecting free to players to spend in order to build it in time for the events
we already know they're free
we already know the missions are coming, there isnt a cost, cos we already had the Same style from the original Franklin
lol it's literally in the game how to obtain them and they're from the missions which are free
Iโm still waiting on a response about the skin tracking shards that seem to be useless now.
they wont answer
thats the mission chain thats coming
you should know scopely needs to make as much money as possible now
those will be usuable next year
@pale cobalt Ain't nobody with a brain falling for the "oh noes I better buy it for this craptastic event"
each one give the warp coil you need for each tier
I mean the the 62 days to build it and it's needed tomorrow for events no free to play has that amount of speed ups or lat to build it in time
oh thats cool but its based on level and it says need to be 36 to start so 35's cant get it
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I'm thinking we should come up with the worst idea for the next arc and events so that Scopely doesn't have to work so hard.
Your tier 1 Franklin-A can kill level 39's
botany bay 2.0 arc
you'll be fine
Like we said, its the Same as the original Franklin, it was the exact same, level locked for the tier for the warp cores
Panic left because he grew a Conscience? Right???
How many?
@ashen wharf I'm thinking you called it.
its bound to happen
people asked for skins/frames/ avatars
yall did this to yourselves
lol
They will reduce the data nodes to 50. But donโt worry the mining speed will double.
Is that why he hasnโt responded to my email?
@pale pasture he mentioned Something in the boardroom about giving back to the community so they took him out back and shot him
That make sense
Pop up banner...
well yea you can't base that point just on the banner, because they have NEVER shown the bonus points, so you can't say the points dont work unless you calcualte your point in the event,
look at the points of your milestone, then do your kill then, then look at your total
Kk, will do next time...49 traders in Kronos worked like a charm ๐
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killed 13 at least
Are there auctions coming up that I'm missing? Or can I spend for the next month...
Seriously Scopely?! Over 61 days to build FA?! For the current event?
Or because no matter what people just bished incessantly
Unbelievable that the Platforms donโt count towards the Combat Prep event....having had them ready to upgrade was the only reason why i spent my extra paid for tickets on that ticketed event as well. Such total bull!
Send message to support. They know and will help you out.
Probably will be a pack for that
This solo swarm event is pretty damn stupid.
I've build my franky-A, and i can't tier it till you release the warp engines. Till then, i get 25 lvl37 kills per hull and that's all i can reach.
My solo event requires 9320 points, which is 105 kills.
5 trips at 500k trit per repair and a 13 minute warp time. Fun, this isn't..
They should have started with Apex or Borg so people could prepare their Franklin A
Or at least already give us the Stella A and Vi'Dar A to prepare them now ๐
Vi'dar A will probably be next Interlude arc
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Although its a Romulan ship so do Romulan ships recycle names like Starfleet?
Bigger ships means bigger repair bills. If you didnโt want that, shouldnโt have upgraded.
I want to upgrade. But these muppets are gating the warp engine behind who knows what..
Then donโt bitch about the bigger repair bill
Thoughts on the hostiles drops for the new frank? ๐
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Youโve asked all lvl35+ to scrap a ship which for many took at least a year to max out and okay thatโs fine as Iโve heard great things about Franklin A. Now that I have unlocked it the game says it will be finished in 53 days. You want us - loyal players to wait 53 days to build it? Not even an epic ship takes that long to build. Can you explain how should I complete the new events you have designed and what shall I use to kill swarms for next two months? What you call alliance โjump help bugโ is now fixed so there no way of asking friends to help and speed it up. Have you thought of people who are actually using speed ups and latinium weekly for research events and building events you are also creating? I donโt have a big wallet but like others who play this game I am supporting you on monthly basis and spend more when I can (pandemic is not easy on peopleโs wallets) Iโm sorry Iโm not trying to be rude but have you lost your minds?
Well summarized ๐
I agree 100%, would never have scrapped the old one if I knew the build time was so long...
LCARS FTW!!!
tbh I think scopely is waning to make a game for only the people who pay, a few hundred at that.
If they do not change courses, the game will probably just die
look at team fortress. its literally the same damn game for, idk 10 years? and they made much more than this, without hiding anything behind paywalls.
Do companys not learn?
To be fair LCARS wasnt updated when I started scrapping mine
Its very bad when a teenager can figure out a better way to update and change a game to have good income and a happy playerbase
understandable but I've made it habit to check those baseline stats before doing anything new with this game. Scopely math is truly unqiue.
Scopely math is time=money and our players have a lot more money than time ๐
If there would be a pack for reasonable price (ยฃ20)with enough speed ups to build it I maybe would consider it. They make it so difficult at times but we all still support the game and the company - if you buy 12 battle passes thatโs ยฃ240 each of gives away. It would be nice to say thanks once in a while. Build time for this ship is low blow for everyone who loves this game.
Im probably just gonna make a pause from this game, to see if their brains take a step further into a happy player base
I agree and 60 days is totally un-nessasary, at least at a hidden cost when you start scrapping the og Frankie. Would be better to have this on the tier up time as at least you could plan for that
Now I am totally buggered
isnt that literally longer than a g3 epic ship?
longer than a JF or Valladore
what the hell
are they out of their mind? This april update must surely have a bad impact on sales and such?!
The jumping helps deletion anger me even more
But we probably should all just go outside and go take a jog or something. Its much healthier for body, mind and wallet.
Itโs funny that the ship theyโre touting for the event wonโt be built before itโs over.
Ok heres decemebers free battlepass vs this month
490 emulsion, 1800 alloy, 750 drives, 4500 faction cred, 1000 duranium, 14 sarco bp, 7 lorca, 13 tilly
vs
5 jayla, 750 faction cred, 6 borg directives, 75 franklin. Doesnt appear equal to me if you pull the franklin bps
the alliance help counter should be reset every day
There is 90 franklin BPs, milestone 8 doesn't show them unless you open the rewards box.
As a cheap2play level 40+ player i already never had enough latinum, let alone those nasty Parsteel and trit requirements for base upgrades etc.
Now these Scopely idiots remove alliance help hopping, which was an integral part of inter alliance relationships.
Bunch of us 40s already playing way less due to resource requirements. Now we are going to quit.
Lets see how long the level 48+ whales stick around when they don't have us around to bully anymore.
So doesnt 90 bps make the battlepass better for us who have it. 4 days of rewards wiped out
So iv got the 24hr ticket mission. But the Absolution mission don't have enough credit to get a ticket pack. What's the logic here?
it's in swarm hunt SMS event
Oh ty. It was missing before.
Ok folks, especially devs, there is no excuse for not providing information. Where/when are the warp interlock acquired for FrankieA?
And further, where/when are the warp interlocks acquired for legacy frankie?
Anyone tried a lvl40 armarda yet?? ๐
There will be a mission chain available in the gifts tab that'll reward components. No solid ETA on that yet but should be in the coming days.
those level 40 swarmada smack u hard lol
Yesh
That is a great response. Thank you.
Anyone elseโs point calculation broken for hostile hunt ticket event?
Event states that Separatist Bosses are worth 4x points.
At lvl 26, point value is 130. So we should get 520 point per.
Iโm only getting 390 or 3x per kill.
Do we know of upcoming events thatโll ask u 2 spend the new swarm bio stuff?
I had the same question
Been told 2 check score in event tab...
Thatโll show the correct amount of points gathered
Oh yes - read and 4got ๐thx @foggy hatch
Just checked... points total is accurately accounting for kills
@foggy hatch that is refine, not spend. Earlier I asked if a bio collection event was going to happen. This is also not a bio collection event.
I don't see one listed in the newsstand.
So collecting ur swarm dailies would b a prerequisite in order 2 refine 4 event...think we had collect biominerals as events in the past...which sucked if u collected ur dailies b4 event reset ๐
Seems like there is not gonna b one of those events - at least not listed...
@indigo perch @foggy hatch
Do we get event combat prep points for initiating building upgrade or completing a building upgrade?
I'm still waiting on the idiot, who thought running events before people who actively use their scrapyards have a chance to build the new FranklinA since they have to scrap their old ones, to be dipped in molten lead and then drawn and quartered with video posted by a content creator (tm). Penalizing active players like that should be a punishable offense.
Could have just done a skin on the Franklin, right? But NOoooOOooOOoooOooooOOOooo... let's really screw things up.
good time to open up a pitchfork and torch stand
side hustle a lawnchair and popcorn stand as well
Sounds like a 2nd scrapper is what you need!!!
Scopley announcement: coming soon a 2nd scrapper to buy. P.S. its $50. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Question ... Where is the mission for the new Franklin-A warp drives?
Is it in the battlepass or is it on a mission planet?
@urban dagger yes, I remember well. It's the reason I wait until mid day reset to collect swarm dailies
Where can I get a Franklin-a warp interlock mk2?
Not released yet
it will be released in a gift chest...
my assumption is that they are waiting for the event that tiering up a frank a will score points in... so that no one can say...
why did you let me do that earlier...
In a mission not released yet. See โฌ๏ธ
Gotcha. I am only a 35, but was scared it would be behind a paywall
Then you can wait a few more, t2 is op locked at 37
by the way the conversion for 35 refinery is garbage
to my knowledge no...
should be sourced through missions that...
it appears that it will be tied to the upgrade ops mission
aka... upgrade ops to 38... and then the subsequent mission will unlock upon that completions
Warp lock for under 37 say "available op 37" in the ship
Well my ops is 35 refinery is 33. Should I upgrade it more for better conversion or is it tied to ops lvl
Scopely usual tooltip bug?
a little heavy for armada, with tier 1 ships ... ๐
lcars has it tied to the ops gate...
so if their information is correct... that should be the unlock after the initial one that will be gifted
stupid
Same mechanic than francky 1
So the refinery won't increase payout off levels? only ops as well I am guessing
meaning the frankie refinery... if i had to guess thats gonna be tied to ship tier... which is ops locked so... yes?
knee bone's connected to the ... thigh bone
thigh bones connected to the... you get the drift... ๐
I m 41 and t1, don't have the same cost for refinery. 200k for one chest from memory. So probably op not tier
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Also had 350 blue stuff
like i said it was a guess
ummm ,... @fresh peak Can we get the cargobay on the Franklin-A boosted ?
Franklin
@jaunty copper
COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY !!!! SCOPELY FAILED THAT ONE AGAIN
pardon?
Snake is not scopely cc ๐คฃ why blame him exactly?
i failed what?
you just failed! this arc sucks. give me back my money ๐๐
You failed at scopely communication @granite zenith
well... i will give you back every cent you have given me... where did you send my checks?
Its all your fault
Someone eat my blue m&ms ๐ข I m sure it' s snake...
blue are the tastiest
Ah apologies, Buglagely (Scopely) was to be targeted, couldn't stop the guns as the message was already launched
I got to say the Franklin-A is not a oldschool franklin continued on cause the repair cost and time are way higher for a tier 1 than a tier 9 oldschool.. That is with no upgrades..
This needs stated again and again. The failure isn't that the part isn't out yet (although that's incredibly annoying), it's in their complete failure to communicate the expectations / availability. "Later/Coming Soon' is so annoying to hear time and again, and is utterly disrespectful to the playerbase that has been strung along and extorted so continuously.
Maybe at some point someone who 'knows' cough CMs cough might deign grace us with their presence to resolve this question.
Imagine the poor idiot whales who bought the Franklin-A, thinking they would be able to upgrade it immediately. I can only imagine how betrayed I'd feel if I bought this ship and found out I can't actually tier it up at all ๐
How would you feel if you were able to upgrade it straight and didn't look to see when the upgrade event was, the mission will be gifted at the same time as the upgrade event
Why buy something you have free in 16h ๐คท
Cause whales gonna whale lol.
If there was an event upcoming, and Scopely yet again failed to communicate that then that proves my first point, that they are utterly failing at their jobs of maintaining channels of communication.
Read the in game notification it tells you the events and dates they will run
But also - know your playerbases expectation. People wanna roll out and play with their shiny new toys. Don't time-lock those events just to time lock them.
Any news about warp cores?
Special one
How they fail? The event are explained in detail in game news.
A whale more than anyone should know anyway to NEVER do anything between the update and the event reset. Scopely rule #123
But can covert some 1.5m old to 350 new daily
Conversion rate depends on ops level
Better do the cheap chest conversion, the others are not worth it
At ops 35 it's 75k old for 74 new
New ones
Cause it's stupid to lock a shiny new toy away behind a paywall and a timewall. And again - the fact that you're speculating this, because we haven't heard anything, shows the failure to communicate.
And again - for the whales that can't complete events or dailies it seems like this is intentionally a malicious decision.
I speculate nothing..... I know. Like EVERY arc, like EVERY month. The update is for the new arc. So you should always do NOTHING till the arc start ๐คท it s only pure logic
Just because Scopely abuses us every month so regularly that you learn to expect it don't mean that's a good model
So for franklinA, you have to restart all from the beginning... what a great scopely idea.... I don't see any advantage to do this
Abuse. Waiting a few hours because an update and the event start is abuse? As you wish. ๐๐
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But that has NOT been communicated and lot of ppl have already scrapped faklin and got stuck now... why not to tell in beforehand? what are the patch notes for?
and the ARC has already started so where is the gift ?
Upgrade event hasn't started yet, so would you prefer to upgrade it now and miss out on an event???
I'd prefer they run the upgrade event on day one and allow us to upgrade it, so we can play with our shiny new toys
But apparently that's too much to ask
Just more basic ressources... I am not a whales so I think I wil keep my maxed franklin ๐
Don't bother. Seems 1.new ship + 2.new arc involving that ship don't egal to wait arc to touch that ship ๐ . I don't have logic for that ๐
They have to give everyone time to scrap and build the ship before they run an upgrade event
For that they would need to wait 2 months then ๐
Basic resources. 8.7 billion steel month at op 41 is not basic resources. It s the f2p wall being badly damaged....
I am FTP ops 35 and I have managed to get mine down to 18 days so far, I do admit the build is ridiculous I'm having to completely destroy my Klingon re to get the speed ups to build the ship which I am not happy about
Not to mention not everybody maxed their franklin to tier 9 which is a prerequisite to start in first place
So 7 days to grind
1 day to scrap
60 days to build
So ar start of 3rd swarm arc i can be there
Can I buy the FIX ALL BUGS Chest in the store? ๐
You can wait until you max it. Not all server have the same age. You won't miss much. But when you are ready, you can move to big boys swarms and the new refinery
So glad i don't have a Franklin
Event/Arc Communication failures:
- Upcoming patches and prerequisites / prep are kept in the dark, so noone knows what to prepare (i.e. Max Franklin) prior to arc start (and these requirements are a vast divergence from TOS arc and it's focuses);
- Patch notes and communications around launch don't list times/ETAs for key activities despite having the ship available to purchase;
- Despite the community continually asking when due to the failures of the above, the Scopely team continues to ignore this question.
What I would say to anyone who is ops 34 is don't rush to 35 because a lot of the events for 35+ require the Franklin A
but then it is a planned slowdown of leveling up?
If the events where all solo events I would have ruled myself out of this arc completely but most are alliance events so I am rushing to complete it just to help the alliance get their rewards
Level up when the arc ends so you can do the events and get rewards no point rushing to 35 and not be able to take part in events
thanks
Just terrible planing that the warp cores are not available right now... lvl35 to 37 can do dailys and get alot of rss each day, but 38+ cant do dailys because of warprange... worst implementationof new content...
I am doing 41โs for dailies using Jelly with a decent repair bill. Kinda screwed up for sure
If the whale on my server was doing his dailies, he'd have to kill L50s with a T7 Ent A. That's completely stupid ๐

