So from context it's the bounty hunters in augment space
#🏆-event-chat
abstract gate
robust vapor
nothing to do with giant fighting robots? 🥺
abstract gate
It's probably where they got the name...that or the pilots do shots before battle
noble thunder
deep hare
I have finished every event as f2p
abstract gate
Anybody can tell me what is a k-jäger
@fluid escarp
That's short for Kopfgeldjäger. Bounty hunters in augment space.
fluid escarp
median roost
warped stag
@north wraith you can always gain two tokens, it states which two previous research nodes gives you the required parts. Here underlined in yellow and red.
waxen sedge
So the mission event is not possible for f2p this arc or am I missing something? <@&509690795536941056>
@abstract gate There's two questions in your post. Will we reach milestone 18 to get the mission keys before the "Going out with a bang" event ends? Nobody knows yet, it seems like there are a lot of battlepass points still needed and not many days left. Can a free to play person complete the event, assuming we get to that milestone? No, one of the mission keys needed to access a mission for the event is only accessible as a reward from the premium side of the battlepass rewards, so you need to at least have bought the elite pass thing.
warped stag
@waxen sedge look very closely at the points awarded per mission block 😉.
waxen sedge
Oops, yes it would have helped if I had done that. So my second part was wrong, you dont need the bonus mission for the event.
mental yoke
Anyone know what the requirements are to get the “going out with a bang event?” Im ops 28 and don’t have it.
tribal elbow
Anyone know what the requirements are to get the “going out with a bang event?” Im ops 28 and don’t have it.
@mental yoke I leveled to ops29 and got it, didn't give me points retroactively tho
north wraith
Thanks @warped stag i forgot to read 🙄
pale cobalt
Going out with a bang is possible for free to play without the elite battlepass if scopely provide enough points to reach milestone 18 before the event ends
Complete A Burning Ember 5pts
Complete going out with a bang 5 pts
Complete The Imposter part 5 15pts
The event is 20pts to complete and the f2p missions gives 25pts
The elite battlepass missions gives 20pts
prisma geode
No reason to believe you won’t be able to reach all the rewards in the battle pass. Every One so far has been doable with time to spare.
pale cobalt
Battlepass f2p will complete no doubts about that it's the going out with a bang that seems undoable at the moment 3 days left on the event and we still need 73k points for milestone 18 missions
prisma geode
Without knowing what the battle pass points are for upcoming events, you are assuming you won’t get it.
pale cobalt
I said SEEMS to be undoable at the moment, didn't say it was impossible
abstract gate
So far the only side events to award points towards battle pass milestones has been the pvp which gave 1kpts (iirc) so even if we get 3 days of that plus 2 days of domination after faction hunt we are 3k points short...as usual no clear communication from scopely so we can only hypothesize based on past experience.
Past experience says the math doesn't look favourable and scopely are con artists...
It could just be a sales tactic...milk the nervous nellies for a few bucks with battle pass points packs then throw out a high scoring event. Fomo is a powerful sales motivator and as stated scopely are shady af con-artists
drowsy viper
600 points for defeating lvl 29 + 200 points for using Stella? That’s 200 points more, right ? Compared to last Apex
twin mason
Seriously scopely, sort it out TFB and Faction Hunt together, are you trying to bore me out of the game?
It’s like 500 hostiles to kill, pathetic.
And armadas 🤦♂️ I give up.
Mix it up, never do double hostile killing events, just sucks balls.
daring flame
Apex Rogue event seems bugged: I just got points for GAINING eclipse armada directives from the Rogue faction store, by spending green data as per usual each day
pale cobalt
I don't understand why anyone is surprised by the events we always have swarm on Sundays and it was faction hunt yesterday so it was pretty obvious that it would be faction hunt again today and we was informed about the APEX Rogue armada event 3 days ago, I am happy that we have all 3 because those are the best events by far for the rewards they give
median roost
Thanks Scopely for specificity not marking this weekend with Exchange Armada Events.....then do one today when my alliance did a crap ton of them yesterday.
pale cobalt
Todays armada event was posted in the in game notices 3 days ago it shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone
vivid hearth
Great event,no effing armadas spawning, alpha completely empty,usual scopley incompetence
median roost
Why should I have to consult a post when the calendar posted in the game when I log in has no marking for an exchange armada event this weekend?
undone lance
I love faction hunt
Stacking up credits is always fun when it is this easy
Less then 1 hour to do all 3
median roost
I don’t live on discord. I only come here to offer feedback on how terrible these event are ran.
pale cobalt
@vivid hearth We were talking about the side event "Going out with a bang" we have 3 days to reach the milestone 18 mission keys
median roost
A player should have to use another app to be aware of in game information. Poor communication and execution.
pale cobalt
They posted in game
median roost
*shouldn’t have to use a separate app
undone lance
I mean with swarms you get very little. Faction hunt gives credits and officer xp
torpid light
Golly scopely, just allow me to have no banners. Logged off for 30 mins and now game has crashed twice whilst telling me about armadas that finished 15 mins ago.
hollow latch
You are crazy, too many events 😠😠😠😠😠😠
icy panther
Hmmmmmm
south arrow
Do the events you want to do nobody’s says you have to do them all
near radish
Anyone not received the rewards from the events that just finished at 17:00 uur gmt? Roughly
merry harbor
No receiving uncommon exchange loots after successfully defeating multiple exchange armadas, with and without Stella. Rebooted multiple times, clear localization... Nothing, nada...
meager galleon
Return to your station
Eclipse Armadas don’t seem to pay out the same as normal armadas. The loot from them goes into your Cargo
merry harbor
Interesting. I'll try that! Thanks!
night fulcrum
@vivid hearth We were talking about the side event "Going out with a bang" we have 3 days to reach the milestone 18 mission keys
@pale cobalt any solution? Because not all of us have this Event. Over lvl 29 they have, under not. Or finished it because we dont know if it was easier for lower Level.
With Level 28, no Event or done
pale cobalt
Missions are recommended for ops 29 so that might why you don't have that event but I don't know the exact reason why you don't have it
lapis nest
When I attack romulans my Kehra wont register the attacks. Is there a reason by chance?
thorny palm
How many points should we have at this point if we cleared everything each day?
dapper drum
227.5K
thorny palm
?
Missing the Fed hunt, so that's only 7k missing and I'm pretty sure I've done all the events. Just looking like I'm going to be short of the unlock to do the "Going Out With A Bang" event
winged tulip
Same here, 204k points with all events to date completed
pale cobalt
All events completed 204k
thorny palm
Up to 204K now. So hopefully the next two days give us enough points to unlock the next quest line.
random tide
Gonna be domination. How much does dom given again?
edgy trail
pale cobalt
Domination in previous arcs gave 24k pts
lapis harbor
Where is the heist loot?
knotty birch
Need 52k points next 2 days to allow the missions to be completed in time ftp.... odds on this happening seem slim as no events so far have paid out 26k points as far I know....
narrow elm
You need to buy the extra 50kpts in the store to complete the quest lines before that event ends there is no way around it
spark monolith
Anyone know what event is on today? Cant find the calender
ebon galleon
The missions also send you to the rogue systems behind a warp token. You need 2 warp tokens in total...
modest badge
excuse me.... what do they mean you get rewards only if you have earned points?
robust vapor
That seems fairly self explanatory, but what's the context @modest badge ?
modest badge
No problem.... I had the clarification in another room 😅 I have to be inside the alliance before the event starts...
night fulcrum
Anyone know what event is on today? Cant find the calender
@spark monolith
crisp current
Anyone know the rewarda for the Guantlet?
neat owl
Anyone know the rewarda for the Guantlet?
@crisp current Frames for your avatars
crisp current
@crisp current Frames for your avatars
@neat owl well that sucks!
pale cobalt
Epic, Rare, and Uncommon Battle Frames (depending on ranking in the leaderboard), Apex research medals, and Heist loot.
neat owl
Yep...
I guess it is solo so only top whales would get stuff
More like top Krakens
Cuz they're too big to be a whale
woeful seal
Frames.... never use them.
But, if using the khan avatar meant an extra 25% effectiveness, I’d use the heck out of them
Borg frame means more damage against Borg etc
neat owl
I actually use that Khan avatar as a reference to who is the most stupid player😂
You can use the credits to get that new aug recruit pack ( after getting all shards, you start getting pure TP)
Each chest is like 600 TP and anyone can easily do a double pull each day
You're wasting almost 36,000 TP you could have received
crisp current
I just wanted to know how much effort to put into the Gauntlet.
neat owl
I just wanted to know how much effort to put into the Gauntlet.
@crisp current The first one is over already
It was an alliance event
raw zenith
Do gauntlet for heist loot
crisp current
@crisp current The first one is over already
@neat owl
My alliance placed top 5. Ive completed the solo.
Waiting for the next Guantlet event.
neat owl
@neat owl
My alliance placed top 5. Ive completed the solo.
Waiting for the next Guantlet event.
@crisp current The next one is an LB i guess
crisp current
@crisp current The next one is an LB i guess
@neat owl almost all alliances with players in my bracket were eliminated in the alliance event. I'm pretty much solo
neat owl
LBs are the worst when everyone ends up getting competitive and scores such that participating isn't worth the rewards since you have to spend more time and resources than the rewards
I just stay clear of LBs unless it is a reasonable one or an alliance one cuz if everyone in my alliance is contributing, I'm not gonna let them down
remote mango
i have apex outlaw 3 day event active right now and there was no mention of apex outlaw event in event calendar.
my question is when was the last apex outlaw event and when the next one would be?
i am almost ready to move to 32 in few days, should i fast track and do it now or will there be apex outlaw event soon (apex token conversion is much higher on 32 than 31)?
neat owl
At lv 32 I am getting 100 for every 5 tokens I spend
raw zenith
the splash screen calendar is generic and does not list specifics
remote mango
@neat owl at 31 its 43 for every 5 tokens
neat owl
I love the apex event and research though
Especially that warp research
It doesn't consume any mats
and your warp speeds increase so much
It can help a lot in the long run
remote mango
same here, i love them. used tokens to do 1 of both, gives best boost
neat owl
I didn't even concentrate on the other apex researches
It takes me 3-4 mins to get to alpha or the similar connected systems using my stella ( stella warp research is 0)
And that includes impulse time
Apart from Prime officers, This one may be the best
scarlet seal
Here's one for you, So you do the Stella Outlaw research - APex Chop Shop, You then scrap your stella at lvl15 as the cost to lvl20 and above is too much , and the time to scrap Stella goes up and not down, Think Apex Chop Shop is broken
neat garden
Thats handy, i just started spending apex credits on it
neat garden
i have two. both are crap
true palm
But the Rev said no
light hornet
It’s a cheap battleship to repair though. Yes?
neat garden
yes
scarlet seal
My main one is T4 while I save up the Rare Uranium needed to get it to T5, I tend to just build, upgrade to T3 lvl15 and scrap me second one for the stella particals needed for the research
light hornet
And still packs a punch, at least against hostiles.
neat garden
and fires so many shots per round
Silly question from Jim time again: Has anyone got Prime Stella Efficiency? How does the 100% cost efficiency translate to a reduction in "unique" materials required, because its obviously not 100%...
light hornet
That’s actually a very good question. I’m wondering the same
pale cobalt
I have 2 Stella's one to upgrade one to scrap the trick is research at lvl 20 mine is almost 400k I have seen others have a lvl 20 over 400k, keep one to upgrade (max) the 2nd to keep scrapping for the research
neat owl
Here's one for you, So you do the Stella Outlaw research - APex Chop Shop, You then scrap your stella at lvl15 as the cost to lvl20 and above is too much , and the time to scrap Stella goes up and not down, Think Apex Chop Shop is broken
@scarlet seal I have observed a curve and the best time to scrap the stella is on those maxima... lv 15 and then from lv 25 it keeps increasing
So scraping at lv 15 is good, or any other levels after 25 is good
scarlet seal
Yea the problem is I have done two levels of Apex Chop Shop research and my stella scrap time at lvl15 had gone up not down,
it's like it taken the 8% on the base scrap time at lvl15 and added it and not taken it away as lets say it was taking 18hr it now read 18hrs and 27 minutes
neat garden
I scrap my little one at lvl 10 or 15, depending on whether i can be arsed to grind the xp. I will scrap my big one at lvl 30, just to get the 48k of stella particles which should last me some time. Getting uncommon and rare uranium is not difficult, it just takes time but the outlaw research (outwardly) appears to be excellent and not just for the stella.
neat owl
I didn't have much issues with scrap time... I start scrapping it in the evening, it is scrapped by morning or noon... and I then use it till evening... then repeat
neat garden
my chip shop research at level 1 is now complete. i will do some testing as i advance through the levels
but like @neat owl , i scrap overnight mostly, so it may not matter much
neat owl
I'm going to try n max out the warp speed research first
neat garden
Presumably the bonus applies to all scrapped ships, not just the stella?
neat owl
It seems to be the most useful out of the two I can do
neat garden
i got apex getaway pilots to level 8 from the first batch of apex tokens. that will do for now, the bonus is good and my general warp times are all low, so no need to go mad with it, for me at least
plush arch
Anyone else not completed event in July so doesn’t have the Stella?
raw zenith
you can get stella in the event store
plush arch
I think have to be certain level or already have Stella. As I only have avatar option. No Stella BP option
meager galleon
Think it’s 27+ or something like that
quasi token
2 people with Mudd avatars joined the event again and got 4th and 5th Blows my mind.
cyan kettle
Not sure if my math is wrong or what, but I have completed milestone 16 of Battle Pass as of today's events. I don't get the 40 missions keys for 3.3 of the outlaws arc until milestone 18. However, the Going out with a Bang event will end before I can get the mission keys. I have not missed on any day so far in the Battle Pass. All the other arcs before now players haven't had to buy battle pass tokens to get events completed. Has that changed for this one? I think I'm going to be one day short
warped stag
@cyan kettle it seems we all are short. You are not alone in this.
cyan kettle
@warped stag Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't me and/or I didn't miss anything. I'm pretty OCD about completing the daily milestones
abstract gate
Has the points needed to complete domination event been increased?
warped stag
🖖, we may get lucky with a correction tomorrow but I don’t see that happening.
Nope, 23k points from domination as usual @abstract gate
dapper drum
you missed the bonus TFB last week
was 2x of regular and heroic
why I'm almost at MS 20
cyan kettle
TFB?
warped stag
Battlepacks don’t count @dapper drum stop trolling.
warped stag
Screenshot or it didn’t happen
knotty birch
I am on every day and missed nothing so stop trolling.
abstract gate
@warped stag I meant the actual domination solo event, I promoted 2 epics and 2 common officers and I'm still short on completing it
dapper drum
it popped up 40 mins to TFB ending
so I did it twice and got 2x the points
maybe was an hour before but I noticed with 40 mins left
sent ent,sally and frank to clean house
cyan kettle
@knotty birch I am on all day every day as well almost (oh the joys of working from home) and I get all my events for rainbow tokens done as well
warped stag
@abstract gate not sure then, I just added a lvl to an epic and got over the points required.
@dapper drum #screenshotoritdidnthappen
dapper drum
how can I SS it when the event is gone from event tab
warped stag
Show us your near M20 status then
cyan kettle
I know I got all the swarm events last week because we were talking about it in alliance chat how it was swarms again. Haven't missed any rainbow token collection
knotty birch
227,000 Battlepass points is the max you can have earned up to date without buying Battlepass points. 29k needed to unlock missions and complete the missions event ftp.
warped stag
Carry on, we’ll believe you when we see it.
dapper drum
meh when you get an extra 19k from a bonus TFB event its possible without buying
will see after I do domination today
warped stag
So you have done the last mission & bonus mission then?
dapper drum
nope haven't claimed them yet no time when doing stupid events
and phone dies in 15 minutes with STFC open
knotty birch
There was no bonus event with an extra 19k of points. Stop trying to muddy the waters.
dapper drum
if you missed it not my fault
last thursday at 1120am I saw 2 fresh TFB after I had already completed it the night before it
so I did it again
serene fjord
In order to almost be to tier 20 you would have had to have more than 50k from that bonus event.
And surprisingly 50k is the amount a pack provides.
Nice try
warped stag
Noooooo @serene fjord say it can’t be 😱
serene fjord
Lol
warped stag
It’s like not possible....
Maybe Prince hit this button by mistake?
Instead of hostiles
serene fjord
The “bonus” event was to give them $50
warped stag
Sounds like a cheap event
dapper drum
My bad just short of 19 after finishing dom
guys gotta pay attention to your event tab this is scopely they start events early and change their mind or start them late because they forgot
warped stag
Not done domination yet @dapper drum ?
warped stag
That doesn’t add up
Loads of players on my server, not only alliance are all calling 227k.
fallow cobalt
server 153 here, i play the game all day long, and im at 227k too
warped stag
Without todays domination your numbers are correct with a 50k pack.
So I still call foul.
dapper drum
well thats what I got with that extra TFB heroic and regular
warped stag
Naa, not playing anymore. I call bluff.
dapper drum
your choice 🤣
doesn't effect me I can still finish all missions f2p
other than elite pass
knotty birch
I lead a 74 person very very active alliance and not 1 ftp has more than 227,000 points and not one single person, not one has seen or completed a mythical “bonus” TFB event and I’m also in STFC discord every day and nobody until today has mentioned said make believe event. We are trying to have an adult conversation about not being able to complete this ftp so making crap up doesn’t help anyone and just makes you look a fool.
dapper drum
dude it happened less than an hour before reset for me
I already finished mine
it was fresh so I did it again
wicked arrow
Did you upgrade your ops DarkPrince?
dapper drum
also told people here in discord it was TFB for friday because I thought it launched early
wicked arrow
I have gotten to do Swarm events twice by upgrading the ops
dapper drum
but it turned out to be a faction hunt
wicked arrow
Faction Hunt was Saturday/Sunday. It was Swarm Thursday/Friday
warped stag
There was an extra tfb but without points but with Khan.
dapper drum
that was normal TFB
this was directly after a battlepoints tfb
and it had FH that day at reset
I did it twice the day before FH
wicked arrow
@dapper drum did you up your ops level the day you did it twice?
dapper drum
no ops has been 34 for long time only upgraded some turrets recently
warped stag
Well then, you are the only lucky one, yet the other 99.99999% of players are still stuck without a possible 6k to get the MS for the missions.
wicked arrow
I dunno then. You must have been blessed by Scopely. Either way it doesn't help the rest of us
dapper drum
i did give romulan jesus a reach around that morning
wicked arrow
Doesn't matter though. Game is pay-to-play anyways.
jaunty sonnet
<@&509691205798592532> Does Harry Mudd count as an outlaw officer for the purposes of tiering him up and getting pts in the ‘Assemble your Crew’ event?
solemn shard
meager galleon
I believe Joe is correct - I don’t know about tiering him up specifically but shards don’t count for sure
If I had Mudd I’d test for you 😛
raw owl
Can anyone at OPS 22 or 23 confirm if your event store has epic officer shards or ship blueprints other than the Franklin or Northstar?
raw owl
@abstract gate thanks. Is that at ops 23?
abstract gate
pretty sure I had D'Vor already at 22
Not sure about the shards
4 additional things showed up after I moving to 23
not sure which ones 😄
raw owl
Awesome, thanks. I'm at 21, almost 22, now and was considering whether I should push hard for 23 before end of the event to spend my heist loot.
Sounds like the answer is a yes, at least if I want the D'vor.
hexed gorge
D'vor is limited to 60 shards
jaunty sonnet
Shards dont count from him either
@solemn shard that I knew as it specifically states Eurydice shards not epic shards. The upgrade bit says epic outlaw shards and I wondered if he counted
blazing falcon
A question for those who did not buy additional points for the battle pass, but completed all the events: do you manage to take the keys for the last quest (40 keys) before the end of the "Going out with a bang" event, or, like me, will not have enough 6k points?
Before, if a player completed all the events with battle pass points, he had at least a day to complete the quests and close the event for them. Now apparently scopely wants more money.
P.S. I argue on the assumption that the domination event always goes on for two days and tomorrow they will give as many points as today.
pale cobalt
I have completed all events and have 227,000 points so if it is domination again giving 23,000 pts I will be 6,000 points short of milestone 18
narrow crypt
As above - assuming Domination is same as today - will be 6000 points short of mission unlock... unless they run a PVP with 6000 points reward tomorrow as well.
dapper drum
first arc was a pay to finish as well
those who were in alliances that placed in some ALB's though got enough extra to unlock and finish the missions in time
this time its scopely fishing 🤷
narrow crypt
First Arc of Borg was Pay to complete... everything else has been free to complete since.
pale cobalt
It being pay to complete wouldn't bother me if it was made clear from the start that it was pay to complete
narrow crypt
I actually suspect it's more likely to be an error... We all know maths is a bit shaky in the game...
worthy apex
So which “genius” at Scopely decided that you need to spend multiple eclipse warp tokens to complete the third mission chain?! 😡😡😡
abstract gate
@worthy apex how many? given 22h reset this would be helpful to know if there is still any point in grinding one...
@worthy apex does it require going to multiple systems. or the same one twice?
(if so, i can leave my ship there i guess)
worthy apex
@abstract gate so far 2, in different systems.
I have to wait until tomorrow to find out if there’s more.
abstract gate
omg. the levels of evil these ppl go to... not only have they make it pay to finish. but if you decide to pay late, it is impossible to finish anyway
when you find out. can you please tag me in your answer, @worthy apex
worthy apex
@abstract gate although I’ve been wondering if the first one was a mistake/bug. The dialogue leading upto it suggested that you were going to a different system but then the location was in Van Cleef.
lone ember
What the?!
nova valley
first arc was a pay to finish as well
@dapper drum this is incorrect. Oddly enough they ANNOUNCRD it would be pay to finish but they changed it due to outcry. There has never been a pay requirement for the mission completion event. Until possibly now.
robust vapor
That's what I thought too, though it's possible that we were just in better Alliances @nova valley as the first arc was also I think the only one where battlepass points were also earned through Alliance events? Would explain why some of us got it no issues and others insist otherwise 🤔
abstract gate
I just don’t get why it’s a problem for people. It’s an extra reward for buying a pack (and a very meagre one at that)
quasi token
@abstract gate I agree. Scopely puts so many bait events paired with packs out there and hope people bite. They know some will have FOMO. You just have to learn that not all events are to be completed f2p and look at what the rewards really give vs the cost of spending.
ashen wharf
im just laughing because i know there will be another side ship created to stop you from progressing again
narrow crypt
So which “genius” at Scopely decided that you need to spend multiple eclipse warp tokens to complete the third mission chain?! 😡😡😡
@worthy apex : so we're screwed either way... if they do release a PvP with BP points tomorrow - it doesn't matter - unless you have those tokens... which so far I haven't got any of - because they're oh so Meh.
cobalt flare
Anyone think it might be a typo in the event description? Should be 11 days, not 1 day.
urban lotus
Is there even a meta reward for it or are people getting mad over not getting ~15k event tokens?
abstract gate
Hello is it me your looking for
Does anyone have any idea on Today's events please
quick sand
@abstract gate
abstract gate
Yes indeed that is so specific. Lol
abstract gate
Bs, no other developer treats their customers this way, not even EA and they suck. Lack of communication motivated by greed will be the downfall of this game.
EA Sports
Players have made many different feature requests but the common theme we all return to is we want to be properly informed about what is happening. These vague calendars are worse than useless to us. It doesn't seem to occur to scopely that some f2p are only f2p because they lack the pertinent information to make informed purchases.
vital pawn
Eyy chill 💩
raw zenith
Events should be the same today as main event runs 2 days and the secondary one has another day on the lb
abstract gate
Not really my point and you know it.
raw zenith
I was responding to @abstract gate
abstract gate
@raw zenith TY
raw zenith
👍
south arrow
So the only way to finish this event is buying a pack what a rip off scopley
cyan kettle
@south arrow I was about to say the same thing. 6k short to finish the Going out with a Bang. It would have been good to know that up front
subtle crow
What a twist :p
deep steeple
I think scopely messed up and forgot to launch a pvp event at the weekend which would of given us the needed points.
dapper drum
cyan kettle
@deep steeple you are probably right
dapper drum
did not see that coming scopely at all 😏
thorn veldt
Quite a few higher level players have quit recently on my server. Great job scopely 👍
granite dragon
👎 boo to not being able to do the event despite doing everything diligently
The event should be extended
dapper drum
you want the loot get the card out the boot
deep steeple
Would be nice to get an official response..
dapper drum
😂
your optimism is great
we all play this game knowing how bad scopely is at managing it for players enjoyment
cyan kettle
@granite dragon I'd wager that they had the same event timer on the Going Out With A Bang mission as the one from part 2, but when they did the battle pass for part 3, they pushed out the mission keys too far
naive kiln
So is it on purpose that to to finish Going out with a Bang you have to buy elite points? cause i did EVERYTHING every day and im 6K short today
fallow cobalt
They do so many things right, which makes this all the more disappointing......And at a time where so many are angry about how ridiculous the Jelly event is......i only hope this is just a mistake, i mean it must be, right??
hallow pelican
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
south arrow
The pint is they’re getting worse every event
stoic fractal
This mission event that cannot be completed is another great result from scopeless
hallow pelican
Really?
cyan kettle
@fallow cobalt don't get me started on the iss jellyfish event. when level 40+ players get upgrades that are 10 times the material cost of level 30s players they can crush us every time quickly
stoic fractal
ops Scopely = scopeless
south arrow
Then we have the straight out lies in research we have a research that can increase warp Trang’s it stays you need ops 40 but what they don’t tell you is you don’t get the missions for the particles you need until ops 42
blazing falcon
it turns out that there is partly no sense from the premium part of the battle pass (except for resources and materials). the quest for 80 keys will not help in any way in completing the event?🤔
dapper drum
still get to read the storyline they came up with for the missions though later
not a complete loss 🤣
sleek urchin
So going out with a bang event is impossible without paying money then???????
slim aurora
How are we supposed to finish Out with A Bang by tomorrow reset? The daily events, to get the keys are not available until tomorrow. I paid for elite battle pass, and have finished all events. So am i supposed to spend more money to finish out with a bang?
dapper drum
this has been covered already
fallow cobalt
Nah, its a mistake, no way they would do this on purpose.....nuh uh, no way.......But if its not a mistake this could well be one of the very worst things theyve ever done to us, and its something that will take a long time to be forgotten i fear.
dapper drum
you buy the points
subtle slate
they did this during one of the Borg arcs too
subtle slate
but the last few arcs you've been able to complete the event without buying
dapper drum
paywalls on officers through LB events and limited rare store appearances
knotty birch
@fallow cobalt since a number of us have been asking the question for a few days now and not received an answer I fear it is not a mistake but wholly deliberate greed. Maybe <@&509690795536941056> can let us know?
jaunty sonnet
So I’ve just done today’s dominion only to discover that I’m 6k points from the next tier of the battle pass so clearly the last two missions for heist loot you have to pay for.
dapper drum
lol nope no one looks up
jaunty sonnet
dapper drum
buy the rest of the points
jaunty sonnet
Have not missed a single point to date.
dapper drum
this was discussed last 2 days and been known
serene raptor
Urgh. New lows
subtle slate
instead of trolling, why don't you share the results of that discussion then
dapper drum
you will not finish going out with a bang without buying points
subtle slate
most of us dont' have time to search through the thousands of posts that are put on here
jaunty sonnet
Con
flat plinth
This is stupid and lame.
sleek urchin
Had to pay to get the pass to get the missions to do that event anyway and now it's "f@#* you, pay me" scopley keeps asking for our opinion in these surveys trying to figure out why the game is dying. The answer is they're a bunch of greedy tw#ts
dapper drum
lol the last 15 minutes has been this every 30 to 60 seconds someone posting an SS or asking when it was just answered above their post
deep steeple
I still belive it was a mistake..get ready for compensation chest..
dapper drum
🤣
that optimism @deep steeple
if you want to know who the real troll is here
its scopely
made everyone bust ass for weeks thinking they would finish going out with a bang
granite dragon
There will be a fair amount of backlash from this, pretty appalling thing to sneakily do if not a mistake. In the borg arc they atleast said it clearly I believe
full charm
please don't buy the rest of the points thinking you'll finish. scroll up. there are two or three outlaw warp tokens required and those have a 22h cool down. So, unless you already have the tokens, you still can't finish.
fallow cobalt
@nova valley Only you can save us brave champion, now get on your noble steed ffs and podcast the f outa this ffs arghhhhh (please )
waxen galleon
So, purchasing the elite pass, not missing any of the event goals, and I will be 6k points and miss out on the mission event that ends tomorrow unless I make another purchase?
full charm
I see. Either chain will finish the event. But, only one requires the tokens?
dapper drum
yeah
nova valley
@nova valley Only you can save us brave champion, now get on your noble steed ffs and podcast the f outa this ffs arghhhhh (please )
@fallow cobalt hahahahahahaha, i'll send it up.
granite dragon
This issue is Something some folks would really appreciate the opinion of the <@&509691611903426561> ( sorry if this is a wrong use , my first time using this as I am quite unhappy )
dapper drum
same opinion as everyone else
nova valley
but they're only gonna address it if it's in error. if this was by design, then it will likely stay in place.
dapper drum
scopely is donkeyho
granite dragon
I will let them talk thanks.
cunning knot
que? what i miss
delicate estuary
Some of us can't even buy the last bit of points, so double fail
cunning knot
if its about the missions im gonna do a video today
dapper drum
😂
about not getting the keys needed to complete mission event
even after todays event
winged tulip
I can supply a few invectives for your video if you like.. money grabbing barstewards
hollow turtle
So f’ing lame.
wintry roost
6K short if even if you have received all your event rewards...
wraith roost
tell m 💩 nowonshall 😉
granite dragon
And making a ruckus seems to be the best way rather than getting some official response
cunning knot
no worries @granite dragon this one i dont mind being tagged in
knotty birch
They can fix this very easily in 2 ways - extend the mission event by a day, or run a short pvp event with 6k points today.
wintry roost
Or both
serene fjord
Or they could just provide no official response at all
wintry roost
Likely
cyan kettle
@serene fjord that's most likely since we've been talking about this for at least three days and nothing
granite dragon
They can fix this very easily in 2 ways - extend the mission event by a day, or run a short pvp event with 6k points today.
@knotty birch I think extending by a day would be great . Comp chest or otherwise is a separate topic
dapper drum
I want them to add another 6k today
so those that don't have 2 outlaw tw cells saved up can whine some more 😈
wispy karma
They need to do something for certain
dapper drum
scopely is great at making money and making us feel miserable, but I do enjoy the drama it brings
its almost a fair trade off
blazing falcon
if they made this intentionally - just tell us about it.
wintry roost
Some transparency is appreciated
dapper drum
◼️
tawny coyote
Great I purchase the elite battle pass and because scopely can not be fair now I’m going to loss at both opportunity of mission token.
delicate estuary
They did the same thing on and off with the Borg Arc. told us with the first that we'd have to spend but F2p could do it, had a mixed bag of them since
cunning knot
someone give me a video title for this
full charm
Heist Loot Heist
hallow pelican
@cunning knot The big squeeze
fallow cobalt
Star Trek: What The Heck!?!?!
cunning knot
Going Out with a Bang? What the Heck?
hallow pelican
@cunning knot 👌👌
full charm
Going Out With a Whimper
fallow cobalt
Im so angry i might watch it twice!!!
cunning knot
🙂 remember i try to be constructive in videos but im def angry
i was alittle load in this video lol
wraith roost
constructive anger is also constructive 😉
hollow turtle
But hey everyone we get a frame at end if we complete the battle pass! 😂🤣 whiiiipeeeeee!!!!
hallow pelican
Going out with a bang - on the EVE of disaster...
granite dragon
someone give me a video title for this
@cunning knot Out with a fizzle ! Not a bang !
exotic plover
Also note you will need enough rogue faction to get 2 warp tokens to complete the missions...another reason the time should be extended....
full charm
(unless you bought the premium battle pass, then you can just do Descendancy)
tawdry vapor
Going out with a whimper...
exotic plover
The Janeway Protocol
nova valley
they can't extend the event a day. it's either gonna have to be a new sub event with the 6k points, OR a comp chest.
at this point. i think a comp chest is easier, and better EVEN FOR US. because if they do give a sub event, they have to build it and code it. then deploy it. and remember, we have to FINISH THOSE missions before timer runs out. wil give some folks only a few hours to do it.
a comp chest is more fair, and broad. just give any player with 6k shortage 16k heist loot. easy fix @cunning knot
quick sand
@nova valley so they got the calc wrong... is that what you're saying?
nova valley
oh i dunno if that's what happened. i'm just saying, it's 6k short. it's impossible to finish without paying.
fallow cobalt
That would work nicely Mr DJ 🙂
knotty birch
If they got the calc wrong that explains a lot about their coding issues!
nova valley
WHICH is the first time since borg arc 1 that this has happened. and EVEN in borg arc 1, they FIXED it, during the event.
quick sand
🤔
nova valley
if you recall, it was the other way. in borg arc 1, they SAID it was gonna be a payers event. but then it ended up being done fr free.
in borg arc 2, 3, 4, and outlaw 1, and 2. the mission completion event have always been able to be completed for free.
robust saddle
The items they want to fix seems to vary... they've mentioned before they can't edit events on the fly but we've seen them cancel before if in error and start a new one
tawdry vapor
They should just gift eveyone the 6k now... easiest way to fix it
quick sand
Going out with a bang needs a time extension
dapper drum
and they also need 2 outlaw tw cells
to do the mission
so I really hope they give the extra 6k points so we can get more drama 😈
abstract gate
"Fix" you're assuming it's broken and not an intentional fomo abuse to milk us
quick sand
short by 2 milestones
cunning knot
only 1 milestone short here @quick sand
full charm
@dapper drum those are not needed in Descendancy which also finishes the event.
quick sand
I haven't missed anything
robust saddle
How many points do you have?
waxen sedge
Today's points are not refreshing right away, give it a minute fartasia.
quick sand
227K
cyan kettle
I had to exit the game and restart fresh several times right after the event/daily reset
dapper drum
@full charm one of them you need the TW cells, and the one you don't I think is the 80 key one later milestone
cunning knot
@quick sand u had to miss something, i havent bought pts
quick sand
nope
dapper drum
ooh nm they give both if you have the elite pack
nova valley
no.
quick sand
I've bought the elite pack
nova valley
lmao
full charm
@dapper drum same milestone. just on the premium side
nova valley
LISTEN lol
dapper drum
same milestone so if you bought elite pass you can finish going out with a bang if you get 6k points today
sucks that will be alot less whining then from those who didn't buy elite pass
nova valley
those two missions come from the same chain.
@quick sand can you confirm please?
nope i'm a liar.
dapper drum
the elite pass gives you the mission that doesn't need TW cells @nova valley
quick sand
I'm up to date with the missions
robust saddle
Wait, do some of you count elite battle pass stuff as a separate milestone?
coz i dont...
nova valley
yes. you're all right. i missed what you ewre saying.
robust saddle
@quick sand I dunno what to tell you then... it's weird coz you should be at 250k points going F2P with just the elite pass purchased.
hollow turtle
I’m at 250 and haven’t purchased a thing so far in this arc.
cunning knot
did u do todays dom @quick sand ?
knotty birch
I’m at 250 as well, completed everything.
abstract gate
You've missed a domination event somewhere fartasia
waxen sedge
Refresh your game fartasia, it didn't give me the domination points right away either.
quick sand
that maybe it ... DOM ...
waxen sedge
Or the ship xp one
robust saddle
Domination was stupidly laggy today too
sharp hawk
Without buy points and done f2p all events points adds up to 250.000.
Still misses 6.000 for be able to f2p the mission event
sharp hawk
Scoply math sayin buy points?
pale cobalt
Today’s domination done 6k short
shrewd light
Looks like eve echos may be getting some new players 🤣
full charm
With Panic out of the office, is there anyone to hear the disturbance in the force happening?
knotty birch
They already have on our server today alone!
nova valley
so, long story short. even the f2p mission, the imposter, cannot complete without buying points.
even if you wnated the TOP TIER of "going out with a bang" then you always had to buy the battlepass because the dependency mission wa in the elite section. so you always had to spend 20 bucks on that, but then to be short on points, you had to spend ANOTHER 20....
knotty birch
For lots of people, this has pissed them off and they’re going to pay a low monthly fee to get full access to a great game.
cunning knot
abstract gate
Radio silence from scopely as usual...if they do "fix" this they'll wait until the fomo sales spike has died down
meager galleon
Very fast nowon
cunning knot
lol i mispelled actual lol
strong aurora
Crickets
tidal bison
Oh yay, not just me then 🤣
abstract gate
Anger is a helluva motivator @meager galleon
tidal bison
Didnt think I'd missed one
strong aurora
looks like the event was intended to be a pay event
meager galleon
Anger over this game seems like a lot of wasted energy
nova valley
sooooooooooooooooooo..... not to throw gas on the fire. where is the 20 heist loot pack?
tidal bison
ScOpElY cOuNtInG
nova valley
i wanted to compare to see if that 20 buy would be better than the heist loot we're gonna miss in the milestones.
merry fulcrum
Actaul 😀
abstract gate
ScOpElY cOuNtInG
@tidal bison there's one too many o's in that
strong aurora
well honesty from @meager galleon is a good thing, but not going to make your user base happy.
full charm
@cunning knot the issue isn't that Descendancy was required. Either The Impostor or Descendancy would finish Going Out With A Bang. The issue is that you can't get to either mission without buying Battle Pass points. It's even worse.
ashen wharf
They will give you 2k heist loot as compensation
abstract gate
Yep, spent 20 bucks on elite pass? F u spend 20 more if you want the full arc completed...stop letting accountants design content
meager galleon
Full Arc?
It’s one event that has some heist loot on it. I don’t believe it stops anyone completing the arc
full charm
No. But, Heist Loot became a lot more valuable when it was removed from non-Gauntlet events for 3 days out of each week.
meager galleon
And I might be wrong but that Frame for completing all Outlaw Arc is likely awarded for getting to the last milestone on each Arc
hollow turtle
So what’s this EVE game all about?
shrewd light
Space
ashen wharf
same as this space, blowing people up ,wars , mining, alot of lore if you are willing to read
abstract gate
It's part of the arc and contributes towards the overall rewards, getting gouged an extra 20 bucks to complete it is out of order and you know it.@meager galleon
ashen wharf
Dj - eve does it have any lore made me laugh
meager galleon
I don’t know anything, I think the missions are lacklustre
hollow turtle
Ok. Thanks I’ll take a look.
meager galleon
I have no interest in buying a pack just to get some more heist loot, if I wanted that I’d just buy the heist pack.
abstract gate
Jesus, and I'm the one that gets called a scopely shill...
ashen wharf
Its very technical so you will get confused at the beginning
meager galleon
You do? You’re the biggest complainer on this Discord lol
ashen wharf
And its player controlled market
meager galleon
Who ever calls you a Scopely shill doesn’t read your posts
stoic fractal
my only concern, @meager galleon , is that scopely continue to ask via survey if it is clear if you can reach rewards... and they develop the new pass to make it clear... and then they added the numbers... and now they mess up everything again with this ... next survey, vote 1 on clarity... back home
full charm
@meager galleon Points Pack is $20, Heist Loot pack is $100. So...
ebon galleon
Kaution, did you write your usual review on reddit?
meager galleon
Not yet, was gonna wait closer to Arc finish as a full review on all 3
But transparency on this particular pain point needs to be a thing, if it’s designed to be a “early access” to missions thing where you need to spend like they designed it on the Borg one it needs to be made clear. But that that rate they should should probably make them stand alone and not tied to the Battlepass in anyway
nova valley
@meager galleon Points Pack is $20, Heist Loot pack is $100. So...
@full charm yes, but there WAS a 20 heist loot pack. it's gone now.
meager galleon
If it’s a mistake then I believe they will rectify it after
tawdry minnow
So “ going out with a bang “ ends in 23 hours , yet I stil have 10 days to unlock them ! Nice going scopely 🤣 👋🏻
knotty birch
@meager galleon I doubt this was a mistake unless all the feedback and warnings given on here the last 2-3 days have not been fed back to Scopely?
meager galleon
Still have to figure out the full extent of these Gauntlet events and how they function @ebon galleon
abstract gate
Still there...divide by 10 to get rough $ £ or €
strong aurora
i guess im going out with a whimper
meager galleon
I think you have your answer then @knotty birch
ebon galleon
@meager galleon good point. First event was fun. We had a real close finish in the top10. Everyone competing and hsving fun. Second event was weird.
full charm
Is anyone even monitoring this mess right now with Panic out?
meager galleon
Yeah our top 5 was super close through out as well
knotty birch
@meager galleon it would have been nice as a customer to have an actual answer than having to imply one from a complete lack of feedback as usual.
ebon galleon
I hope third event will be better than second
nova valley
There was yes..sec
@abstract gate THANK YOU that's what i was after. the satchel. it was 20 bucks. and it contained MORE heist loot than the top two milestones of the going out with a bang. it woudla been better, but now it's magically gone. this is aggravating.
quick sand
still there for me ...
meager galleon
Wouldn’t be surprised if the £20 disappeared if you bought the £20 battle pass
You have the battle pass fart ?
quick sand
yes
meager galleon
There goes that theory
ebon galleon
I never even saw those packs. Even before the battle pass
quick sand
lol
full charm
same options I have
nova valley
saw it*
cause IF you were gonna be forced to buy points. then the satchel woulda been better ANYWAY cause it offered more heist loot.
then you just forfiet the loot in the gonig out wit ha bang event.
and een that doesn't sit well with me.
abstract gate
Weird...I have all of them still
quick sand
meager galleon
Those Aussie dollars Fart 😅
full charm
Seriously, this is made so much worse by Heist Loot also being removed from non-Guantlet events for the majority of the community 3 days out of every week.
nova valley
i did spend a metric ton on the jelly event.
meager galleon
nova valley
lol so maybeeeeee it's based on spending, regardless ofw hat you buy
meager galleon
I have bought the £100 Heist pack once and have the £20 Battlepass
And I’m a Dolphin spender so
So I don’t know why it’s not there for some
quick sand
nova valley
farty still has em all.
full charm
perhaps it's the server's economy maturing... 😛
quick sand
Yep
stoic fractal
available packs are not the same for each player
glossy vault
Omg we can't do this event f2p bc scopley did not give enough points for mission key milestone! Seriously livid right meow!
meager galleon
First time hearing of this @glossy vault
full charm
breaking news 😛
meager galleon
Sorry, my sarcasm probably not wanted there 🙈
glossy vault
I just woke up busted tail to get to the missions and this..
Lol
Seriously though..we are supposed to be able to complete these events f2p right?.. I have gotten all my points every day since this event started.. what is scopely saying to this?!
full charm
maybe scroll up. It's been the only topic for 90 minutes
serene fjord
They are saying nothing
They are ignoring it
Hoping it goes away. And hoping we don’t go away.
pale cobalt
There was not anymore
thorn veldt
And I’m a Dolphin spender so
@meager galleon
What's a dolphin spender ?
knotty birch
@glossy vault a number of us have raised this issue for a couple of days now and not one single answer from any of the moderators or the community manager. Nothing. No feedback. Just the middle finger to their customers. They wonder why people are leaving this game in droves.
glossy vault
For real.... they could.. just give us a gift in gifts tab with the points needed..
raw zenith
@thorn veldt a dolphin spender is a baby whale 🤣
meager galleon
Smaller than a whale
glossy vault
Wouldn't that be a guppie spender? I'm more of a minnow spender😹
thorn veldt
I foresee a tuna ban
glossy vault
But.. i do play 18hrs a day..roughly.. just that ...this game is like a job but we are made to pay...for...not getting what we need?
I want to enjoy my progression through missions and events, not be disappointed
raw zenith
i just do events I can and ignore ones i cannot
slow progression mode for me
but at times it speeds up depending on upgrades and ability to do more events
restive skiff
I just think it’s ridiculous that even with the battle pass that event is not completable. Why am I buying these again?
raw zenith
well battlepass is for extra goodies only
said extra goodies being great
i like them
fierce shard
They mixed up t17 and 18 on battle pass but to afraid to admit it😂
ashen wharf
You all asked for battlepasses
😂🤣
They used to not cost anything
But You asked for them so no complaints
mirror mirror would also like to have a word
You also asked for avatars/ frames now they are the focus for winning these arcs
raw zenith
battle passes were not introduced until borg
ashen wharf
Mirror mirror was when they asked in the survey if you would like to continue these kind of things
So no it started with mirror mirror
And we still have no mirror mirror content
yeah they are usually like progression based not the top tier item
full charm
It's the closest thing to Star Trek Barbie that this game can offer.
ashen wharf
^ agreed
People complain about mining "farmville" but then go spending thousands of dollars for a avatar
Its the funniest thing i've seen
In any community
full charm
If you didn't play TF2 for hats, you've seen nothing 🙂
ashen wharf
I mean you can earn those grinding you cant do that here
full charm
That was just insanity
I've never been into the Barbie aspect of any game, really. But the needing to spend $20 on points if you want to finish the event and get the Heist Loot that they also removed from all non-Gauntlet events for 3 days out of every week... That's frustrating.
pale cobalt
Heist loot being removed for the 3 days doesn't bother me because that was made clear early on "if you don't qualify for the next round of the gauntlet event you won't be able to gain any heist loot during the gauntlet event" and it wouldn't bother me if the Going out with a bang event is pay to complete if it was made clear from the start that, that's what it is
full charm
Exactly. But, instead a pattern of being able to complete the Arc-equivalent of that event for free was established.
pale cobalt
For each round of the Gauntlet event we can't get any heist loot
full charm
And, actually, it was never stated that there would be no Heist Loot outside of the Gauntlet event. It was just stated that the Guantlet rewards would include Heist Loot. So, I assumed that it would be a bonus.
pale cobalt
It was mentioned in game in the notices Heist loot wouldn't be available if you are knocked out of the gauntlet event during those events
winged tulip
But even in the gauntlet we got one days worth of heist loot over a 3 day event, definitely not worth the effort. Next 2 events are going to be p2w leaderboards anyway, I'll skip it next time.
languid cove
It’s pretty ridiculous. I’ve had to look at that event junking up my screen for 20 days and I won’t be able to complete it
They could have easily thrown 20k in the elite pass to give you the ability to finish it. What a joke
young pike
Why do they always do this to themselves. They established something to later on change it so that players get angry. No gift us the rewards and be done with it.
glossy vault
Let us do the events.. i was so excited for today and meow I am still LIVID that we cannot complete this without $
young pike
Autocompleted the event for everyone
glossy vault
They can't do math..what do they need money for?😹
young pike
The week a competing game is released you make your player base angry. That’s perfect timing 🤣
glossy vault
I'll go for a ride in that Bentley..but I want/need these points.. this is absurd. Huge fail.
young pike
He at least learned from past mistakes
glossy vault
I'm sure data will lend his emotion chip.. maybe the borg queen can seduce scopley into having some accountability for their mistakes and give them some skin..
young pike
Here is the biggest problem with all of it. They do something that everyone likes and we are happy. Then they turn around and change it to squeeze a few more dollars and the discord has to explode in order for them to reverse course. WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO FIGHT WITH YOU. Make us happy and we might spend a little more. Make us angry and what reason do we have to give you $1.00
remote ginkgo
Anybody else notice that in Rouge rescue mission you only get about 80% of points for killing Hostiles
knotty birch
It’s not that they do this type of crap it’s the total and utter disregard and disrespect for the player base by not giving us any feedback. Two or three days now this issue has been raised and not one word from anybody. Nothing.
autumn talon
anybody else completed every Battlepass event missions & only reached Battlepass Level 17 so can't finish "Going Out With A Bang" because the timer will run out
meager galleon
Who what where
obtuse forge
They thought they'd be able to get a few extra dollars out of us. Instead they lost a huge amount... Who in their right mind will keep spending on this when they obviously think we're idiots?
candid goblet
Any idea when next round of Guantlett is?
alpine plover
So Scopely thinks we are stupid. That's great
full charm
@candid goblet it's shown on the calendar. It's every Fri-Sun this month.
candid goblet
That’s great
alpine plover
Obvious cash grabs make feel like we are being taken advantage of @dire veldt .
dire veldt
The bestest of best friends 💙
alpine plover
I saw you typing so I tagged you for funsies
dire veldt
Afaik the mission events were always intended to be an extra little bonus for the players who purchased points, there was issues in previous arcs that swarm event gave more points than they were supposed to so f2p were able to complete
full charm
There has only ever been one arc, across all arc seasons, where payment was required to complete the arc event. And that was the first borg arc.
and, it was stated from the beginning that it would be that way. Incidentally, there was also a bug in that arc that made the arc event able to be completed without buying the points.
dire veldt
Yeah, I made the #⚡-mod-announcements that time, never ever ever again😂
Sooooo many angry pms 😂
alpine plover
@dire veldt By "fixing" the unintended points without calling out the change makes the player base feel as though they are getting baited and switched. Fixes/changes like this should be communicated upfront to avoid misunderstanding
dire veldt
Communication is key 💯
warped stag
meager galleon
You mean this Phil ?
I don’t recall you making this, seems to be a user that doesn’t exist 😁
warped stag
👀
merry fulcrum
👀
dire veldt
7 lives remaining, I'll be ok 👍 😂
hexed gorge
edgy dagger
Extend Going Out with a Bang event. Complaints pouring in that despite doing all offered events, ppl are still 6k+ points short of getting missions to complete. Ends in 20hrs, extend it.
sleek lark
They will extend the event by 24 hrs then only give 5 k points as a reward leaving you 1k short 😈😈😈 mwahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
full charm
nah, would rather just get the Heist Loot. That way folks that bought into it could still get some sort of bonus, but others would still get what was expected.
and, apparently, at 40 it's more than just heist loot. It's also parts.
thorny palm
I was gonna ask but it looks like I'll just join the dog pile.
1 Day short on points, even though we did all the events? Not cool Scopley, not cool.
urban lotus
Plus apparently the mission requires tokens that you're timed on buying, WHOOPS
viscid lynx
yes I paid the $20.00 started to play the mission it ask for a token to go in Van Cleef I got one next mission ask for a token to go in Mitchum there is a 20 hour cool down know i will not finsh th event in time want my money back
alpine plover
I bought the battle pass and I have gotten all of the points...
languid cove
I’m just mad it junked up my events screen for 18 days and isn’t possible to complete
alpine plover
Feel baited and switched
languid cove
And the rewards are also garbage, the extra $20 isn’t worth it anyway. This is an unforced scopely error. Making people mad for the hope of a few more bucks without actually providing anything
hexed gorge
It's like a vicious cycle on here
Complain about event because its p2w
Pay anyway to complete event
Moan about rewards
Promise never to pay again
Repeat
granite zenith
do the other mission if you have the battle pass
@dapper drum he means... the extra mission counts to complete the event
patent hamlet
Even if you go and buy points to hit the mark, missions require you to go to all 3 outlaw transwarp cells systems. So most people can't go there
serene fjord
I would basically be satisfied if they would make any sort of announcement. Anything.
patent hamlet
Just testing if they'll delete this 😂
serene fjord
I would accept “we just want your money...kinda hoping you fell for it”
keen ledge
@patent hamlet - Yes, we will. It violates #509679626763632642 on this Discord.
patent hamlet
@patent hamlet - Yes, we will. It violates #509679626763632642 on this Discord.
@keen ledge
Then why do that to players
keen ledge
Why do what? I am a volunteer moderator who just moderates Discord and Reddit. I don't work for Scopely.
patent hamlet
I know, not going at you. Scopely treats us like garbage, and we put food on their table. It's not fair
keen ledge
And you are free to express that so long as it doesn't violate the rules. I think we all get tired of the constant paywalls.
patent hamlet
They are Going to go Out With A Bang at some point, hope it comes sooner rather than later
pale cobalt
wanton horizon
When is next stella scrap event?
pale cobalt
I think that's heist preparation which should be tomorrow if that's the right one
dry flicker
question : is the "Going out with a bang" event that has 17 hour left tied to the tier 18 outlaw eclipse reward (40xaugust outlaw mission key)?
pale cobalt
Yes it is
dry flicker
so if miss 1 event you are not able to do it ? i am currently at tier 17 250/256k!
dry flicker
I already have the battlepass...they want us to buy the hiest loot as well! wow! talk about greedy
pale cobalt
Yeah I know not worth an extra 20 for 16k heist loot
dry flicker
thank you for the info, at least now my OCD can take a nap
pale cobalt
Yeah mine too lol
wise sundial
ffs 246 800
cobalt flare
Going out with a bust.
idle aspen
Is anyone else having an issue with shards gained through heist tokens not counting toward crew building events?
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> ^
merry reef
Yep I never got the banner once I did
keen ledge
@idle aspen - The commons don't count toward the event.
idle aspen
@keen ledge thanks, I just reread everything a moment ago... Working and playing = high frequency of user error 🙃
median roost
Soooo.....I’ve done all of the events and 6k short of Battle Pass 18 to get the items to unlock the missions for “Going Out With A Bang”....but GOWAB I s going to time out before we get enough points to unlock.
WTF? Really?!
narrow crypt
Yep, Scopelyed... Again.
slate panther
Maybe at the beginning this little tidbit of information should have been shared!
It’s an event designed to grab money from 40+ players. It would seem they get a nice chunk of g4 parts, along with the heist tokens that others get.
For me, all I lose out on is 16k ish heist tokens... no big loss
wispy karma
earnest river
"working as intended" 😂
urban crown
🤑
earnest river
obtuse forge
I've played a lot of games and never seen a company with such a poor treatment of its customers. It's almost as if they want to annoy us. We push back, but they seem to be hell bent on trying again and again.
abstract gate
@wispy karma She states that the battle pass can't be completed f2p. That is even worse.
orchid halo
@young pike im really confused at this assumption that eve is a competing game
The average player base for this game is like in the 40s
We’re not going to spend our time squinting at our screens trying to play some space action game
Guys like me play because of its slow pace, star trek ip and bc its easy to play on the go without being glued to it
Youre all just pissed off that maybe some people will spend $20 to get 16k tokens...this doesnt affect you in any way...or in other words, youre pissed off that you wont get stuff for free?
You will still get the mission and the content. The only thing missing is the extra tokens
ashen wharf
eve is literally the same where you can stop playing and do something else there is no base shielding etc just watching over your ship for maybe 20 minutes to mine a node. Has over 100 ships ready and way better communicative dev team that talk directly to discord users. Pvp that is to be blunt actual pvp
You can go to your home station in eve and not worry about your planetary miners being destroyed wake up and collect your goods restart them then get back on after work. Its not a stay up the longest hitting the same thing over and over again
wispy karma
Eve echoes is awful......I played the Chinese game which is exactly the same ...Second Galaxy .....it’s the worst space sim ever
ashen wharf
Better then this by miles
wispy karma
Nope....wait till you get a month into it
ashen wharf
only thing that this game has is the star trek brand
majority of the game lore is wrong but you all dont say much
Ships are usually incorrectly labeled
Crashes almost 4 times a day
Ive yet to have my game crash since i started
And pvp is just based on how much money you have put into it
I commend scopely for their ability to get the star trek suckers into it though
hexed gorge
So don't play it then
ashen wharf
When did i say i wasnt going to play?
Im just not spending lol
ive built over 10 ships in 1 week on eve compared to 1 ship part on this
hexed gorge
Which is fine, I'm f2p, mid 30ops and enjoy it
ashen wharf
its also 1 week old so you saying its bad proves you are afraid that it will compete with this lol
hexed gorge
No I'm saying if you wanna play eve, then play that, if you wanna play stfc then play that. If you have time for both good for you
ashen wharf
Im just comparing gameplay and i prefer something where i actively progress in
Which eve is doing for me
Stfc is way to slow and boring and just focused on revenue of the company
abstract gate
Hell in eve you progress just by being online...in stfc 38 to 39 took me 4 months of grinding my ass off 5-16hrs/day
abstract gate
It's a serious contender for my free time rn...already gone f2p in stfc due to scoplely's shenanigans, quitting ain't no big thing from there
ashen wharf
Like i would love to see stfc succeed but their current focus will lose
In comparison
abstract gate
Only downloaded it and played to tech4 so far just to see what it's like...not unimpressed
Better graphics, more involving game play, apparently linear progression....
ashen wharf
The timers on everything honestly ruin everything for me here
And mining on eve isnt 2-4 hours for garbage 2-4 hours can get you an entire ship
And multiple other things
abstract gate
Will probably finish this arc, zero my warehouses as best I can then take a break.
ashen wharf
Thats my plan also lol
abstract gate
Got enough raw lat and g3 to last a month, just quick logins to keep the account active and build a reserve of refined mats in case I return (probably won't)
The slow pace of stfc as f2p isn't an issue for me, the time per day required at my lvl isn't either...the deal breaker is scopely's treatment of us as customers. Lack of clarity, vague and misleading information, total disregard of anyone not in the top tier of spenders....I could go on but suffice to say they show no indication of changing their approach to marketing this game so I'm out.
tawny coyote
@abstract gate I can agree more with what you said. I’m in the game because of the friend I made. We have a discord channel which we share information. In the game at time we spend more time talking than playing. Most of my team do their dailies and that about it, maybe some PVP at time but minimal. The game is price out to the average player. Just to get blue print for a D4 for me right now since I already have some is like $400. That to me is crazy. Now with this paid to complete mission is another way to me that show scopely want this game only for whales, and I add I was one of the players that paid the $20 for the elite pass. So is not like I don’t spend money. Plus some of the mission instead of actually rewarding players for been active participants, no now scopely ask you to give them millions in resources either steel, or tritanium. To me that’s not rewarding player, that another way for scopely to continue to ask player to give money. I hope scopely change, I hope they reconsider and extend the time so we can all complete the mission. I hope they stop complicating the game. Instead of keep adding thing to the game. Invest a couple of month and actually fix thing. I reported to customer support about a sector were once you completely zero a node the node then banished, that was month ago. But after month the problem is still there.
tame inlet
It may be against the grain, but no way im getting my blood pressure up over a few tokens.Its a tiny reward , I still get to do the missions just a day or 2 later.
abstract gate
It's not the tokens, it's the way they are nickel and diming us and exploiting fomo by withholding information. If they were upfront about the mission event being p2-do there would be far less uproar rn...if they were upfront about any of their shady af monetization we'd be fine with it (we'd have quit by now but we'd be fine with it ).
winged tulip
Agreed. I don't really care that i'm missing out on a bit of heist loot as it's awful value for money if i were to buy a points pack just to get it. But leaving it ambiguous for 2 weeks while everyone speculates over whether it's completeable, without saying a word, and then leaving it 6k short on the last day, is just awful.
cosmic ferry
Bad design is what bothers me.. not the 16.8k of purple stuff.. It makes this game look like amateur go instead professional game studio work. If you weren't able to think this much ahead and organize for f2p people to score 3/4 steps before time goes off then no point in arguing that developer team is carefully doing their job. Sorry but that is how it looks like.
We are sorry chest that follows screw ups like this makes game look even less professional. Alright. thanks and bye.
raw zenith
it seems it was intentional and not to be completed by f2p. Some events just cannot be.
cosmic ferry
Yeah I get final tier should be p2p , but you get 40 free mission tokens today.
Why are they free of you aren't able to utilize them on 3rd round to get to 3/4 on the event? I get and support that 4th step is paying one. I understand that. But this way it looks like step 3&4 are paying ones, and 40 mission tokens you receive as free can't be utilized in this event. This is mistake by planning team I am sure. I am as well sure Scopely will say it is WAI but come on... it isn't really is it ..
raw zenith
well there are always mission keys that are free for people. Its mission that drives story and gives people something to do. Just because f2p cannot get them in time for event doesnt mean they shouldnt be offered.
waxen sedge
Imo, I still think it was a screw up too. The full complete for the paid bonus mission suggests that was the benefit to people spending. Hopefully we eventually hear one way or the other.
cosmic ferry
I agree on that J.Clark 100%... Anyway as game is recycling events , just painting them in different colors... Augments, Borg now Mudd Outlaws, all basics are same just different characters .. so I am loosing motivation to play the game lately. Just wanted to say that I expected more from Scopely after almost 2 years now.
Except Arcs which are good addition to the game there are no new game mods since Armadas
raw zenith
I am not a fan of the reskinning. COW was a nice new event.
cosmic ferry
👍 Agreed as well
raw zenith
but swarm, borg and outlaws is just a reskin of separatist
cosmic ferry
Exactly. If we wuld talk about any other franchise other than Start Trek (OR SW) I would quit the game already long time ago.
raw zenith
Borg hostiles should have been added to every system, not just specific ones. Since when do the Borg concentrate in one area?
cosmic ferry
There are Endless possibilities like PvE Raids , Fleet Armadas with 50 spots, PvP Armadas even PvP sandbox arenas that could be introduced as new game mods.... Then some weekly mission event and so on...
Spot on J.Clark... Don't let me start with Star Trek lore vs STFC ... lol
Anyways my 2 cents ... now back to the beach 😎
wintry roost
Why are they free of you aren't able to utilize them on 3rd round to get to 3/4 on the event? I get and support that 4th step is paying one. I understand that. But this way it looks like step 3&4 are paying ones, and 40 mission tokens you receive as free can't be utilized in this event. This is mistake by planning team I am sure. I am as well sure Scopely will say it is WAI but come on... it isn't really is it ..
@cosmic ferry if you even checked the reward section you would have noticed that the 3rd mission chain completion gives 15 points, whereas you only need 10 to complete after mission 1 and 2...
Picture taken this morning.....
weak copper
That’s giving you 5 points to bring your total to 15. It’s not giving you 15 points.
native basin
I’m ftp. I’ll be getting the 40 today or tomorrow by playing through the pass
It is possible to do
cosmic ferry
Typo prolly.
Or missions names are linked to points you achieve by completeing it.
It is only 16 k purple stuff so it isn't so important
weak copper
Deleted last comment. I see what you mean now. But you will only get 5 points I believe
cosmic ferry
What bothers me are little finesses . I think so too @weak copper
wintry roost
@weak copper Milestone rewards at: 5 points, 10 points 15 points and last one at 20 points.
That you can gain more points than required is the usual handling with Scopely
issue remaining is the lack of time...
Hence intentional that ftp was able to finish event
cosmic ferry
Yeah... So even if you paid for full rewards you still need to pay for points to achieve top score in that event. Which is legal ofc... but misleading as hell. Now back to beach , again 😄
wintry roost
@cosmic ferry even ftp able to get all rewards in “going out with a bang” if the timer would not run down to early
cosmic ferry
Yes .. you are prolly right ... shame it went the other way..
wintry roost
It likely to be going out without a bang.....
wispy coyote
How is this acceptable? The battle pass is required to get all of the Outlaw missions...and now to complete an event you are required to pay an additional $20 for points?
It's "not an error" as Brock so succinctly put it here. To be perfectly clear, this single event, "Going out with a bang" requires $40 to be able to complete, minimum.
raw zenith
The battlepass is for extra goodies only. It promises nothing else other than that, and that depends on you completing all milestones.
wintry roost
It's "not an error" as Brock so succinctly put it here. To be perfectly clear, this single event, "Going out with a bang" requires $40 to be able to complete, minimum.
@wispy coyote get your facts correct... it apparently does require spending but only the 20USD pack or in EU the 22EUR pack
wispy coyote
And to be able to complete Going out with a bang, J.Clark, you have to buy the battle pass.
To buy the battle pass was $20
wintry roost
And to be able to complete Going out with a band, J.Clark, you have to buy the battle pass.
@wispy coyote wrong, scroll up and read again
raw zenith
well....some things can only be completed by spenders. Game has to make money. Without spenders no new content, etc.
winged tulip
Think something is off with the amount of new (not recycled) content vs the amount of spenders - i saw the jelly LB on my server..
wispy coyote
Oh, right right. The imposter is 15 points, not 5. So, you can complete it with only buying points, not the battle pass
@wintry roost I'm assuming this makes it ok
raw zenith
jelly event was this past weekend wasnt it?
wispy coyote
Yes, Clark
raw zenith
Im not 36 yet so it doesnt show up
knotty birch
@raw zenith paying should always been about getting things earlier not for the purpose of some getting and others not.
raw zenith
cool
umm no @knotty birch paying should allow for exclusive content
thats how games work
wintry roost
@wispy coyote that’s not what I am stating.. that is for everyone himself to decide... but to have everyone form a honest opinion we need to stick to the facts.
raw zenith
console games giving out specific weapons and outfits only to those that pre-buy, etc.
cant get them later on
all games do this.
people that pay money into this game should be given exclusive rewards,
wispy coyote
@raw zenith add an additional 5k-ish of the tokens and you've got an ops 40 "extra rewards" for paying $20.
Nothing here is "unique"
And the total 16-17k heist loot won't buy anything special either.
raw zenith
yea, im not that worried about not completing the gowab event
wispy coyote
Early Access in other games typically gives unique items, buffs or access. Not run of the milk "rewards"
@wintry roost I understand. I misread the point reward for the 3rd mission as 5 vs 15.
raw zenith
i think the thing for some whales is not necessarily the reward but the completionist angle. "I completed everything"
which i understand
wispy coyote
🤷 Sure...give them a unique portrait then
SOMETHING unique. Anything. Would have made this at least a bit understandable
south arrow
That mission you already have to pay to finish now they want us to pay twice to finish the mission that’s why people are pisssed at
warped stag
If you wish to complete it today yes, pay. You can still do the missions, just not the mission event.
raw zenith
well you cannot complete it today unless you have those warp tokens already
south arrow
You have to buy the premium rewards to get the last mission
Then you have to buy a points pack
raw zenith
someone said you have to have 2-3 warp tokens
south arrow
Like everyone said screwed over by scopley and it’s not the first time
raw zenith
you do not have to have decendancy to complete the mission
only have to complete imposter, but unless you have warp tokens prob not possible
and youre not screwed over, its apparently a pay event for final tiers
raw zenith
nope. 20 points total to complete. First two tiers give 10 points, imposter gives 15. 10+15=25
south arrow
Yep fat fingers lol
raw zenith
I recognize that mobile games have two branches, f2p and p2w. Some events will be p2w. Without spenders there is no game for the f2p. I accepted a long time ago that not all events will be achievable by me.
It is what it is.
Without spenders no f2p.
south arrow
I’m a spender at level 41 with a jelly so I know that’s and I’m mad
So don’t say it’s only for spenders
raw zenith
well it appears completion of this event was targeted at spenders.
south arrow
And is completely stupid every event scopley tries to get more and more money with less value and it kept getting worse
raw zenith
well I always leave it to the player to look at the packs and rewards. If it is something you value and are ok with spending the money do so, but if you look at it and dont see the gain, then dont buy it
south arrow
That’s why I have stopped spending 🤣
raw zenith
i think the battlepass is good value, about the only thing i will buy
winter leaf
Battle pass is a good value, for sure - not too upset missing on heist loot, not a ton anywho.
south arrow
Same here only good value in the game
winter leaf
That’s relative, if I had more disposable income I’m sure I’d spend more - but slightly more expensive than a mmo subscription @ 20/mo but given the time i spend here, it’s cheaper than a ps4 game a month.
Surprised they don’t have a up front pack monthly’s at a discount, 1 year at $1000 vs 1200 (a savings of $200) kinda stuff.
strange flint
I’ll admit, I didn’t read the channels to check if there was already an answer for this... but what’s up with this event and the timing seemingly off or something?
Is this a bug scopley is working on or something?
strange flint
Ok, I’m gathering I’m not the only one to notice that it seems like you have to buy something extra to get something that should already be included. Smh.
hexed gorge
🤣🤣🤣
heavy cradle
@loud solar even made a video on it!
loud solar
heavy cradle
I'm still trying to figure out why I don't have the event. I'm guessing it wasn't even offered at under ops29
strange flint
If that’s not a bug then that is really lame!
raw zenith
dont think its a bug. think its a paid event
tawny coyote
@strange flint is not a bug. The problem is that scopely want you to paid if you want to complete the last two event and get points.
raw zenith
i have no issue with it being a paid event
abstract gate
Saying the battle pass is good value is like thanking your mugger for taking your wallet and leaving your phone.
tawny coyote
I do because I already purchase the elite battle pass and now they want to ask player to paid to complete events.
raw zenith
battle pass is for extra goodies only
strange flint
The battle pass should have come with a HUGE asterisk.
abstract gate
Compared to the other rip off packs you would...if it was the only store item you'd tell scopes to go f themselves in the f'ing f
raw zenith
no it shouldn't. its self explanatory
tawny coyote
They should be up front clear and not let player think they will be able to finish events.
raw zenith
battlepass is only thing i buy
dapper drum
you all got trolled by scopely
raw zenith
battlepass did not promise or even hint you could complete events
dapper drum
they made you think if you put the effort in you could finish all events
tawny coyote
In previous event player finish every event if they were able to complete each day events.
abstract gate
Yup, classic bait and switch
raw zenith
battlepass is extra items for reaching milestones. Like in every other arc
dapper drum
not always @tawny coyote
strange flint
Yeah, there is nothing that is upfront or clear about the event being an additional pay to win thing.
dapper drum
nothing stating it isn't either?
tawny coyote
This is my first time I was not able to finish an event.
dapper drum
you missed some good swarm and early borg arc events then
because they were pay to complete
with same timing
strange flint
The event should just have a big $ on the card to indicate more money required if they wanted to be upfront.
dapper drum
close to being able to do it but just shy
raw zenith
everyone worked up over one event. Did you all complete the Acquire mudd event?
tawny coyote
@strange flint Yes they should have said at the beginning that you would have to paid to finish the last two section.
raw zenith
if not, you havent completed all events
abstract gate
It's hilarious how the mods keep trying to defend a clear bait and switch aimed blatantly at exploiting fomo for a few extra bucks
dapper drum
the mods are not defending anything
raw zenith
how is it bait and switch? Im not defending it, i just dont care big difference
dapper drum
just stating blatantly obvious
tawny coyote
Maybe because they have the hold pictures they don’t how is not obvious to other.
granite zenith
I think the issue is that in Borg Arc one, this came up, and we were told it was P2P, and then they made an error or, changed their minds and it was F2p, and remained that way for 5 arcs. I think that creates a level of expectation for the community, P2P and F2P that the mission event would be able to be completed without spending any money.
raw zenith
i accept that not every event can be done without $
dapper drum
this is scopely
you keep playing knowing this is how they run the game
I would even prefer EA to run STFC but meh we can't all get what we want
raw zenith
you do not have to complete every event. if you want to you have to assume some $$ will be involved at some point
winter leaf
This minor event just gives loot,right? It ain’t fancy - like getting bent about a trit token, meh.
raw zenith
yep
tawny coyote
Yes but it should be clear which part of the event you have to pay and which you can do by completing events.
strange flint
My mind is still comparing this to Eve Echos... which has stunning graphics, doesn’t crash on my iOS devices, and doesn’t appear to require getting a home equity loan to be able to afford playing. 🔥
raw zenith
not yet lol
tawny coyote
I didn’t see any information that said if you want to finish mission event you need to purchase point.
dapper drum
you can still complete the missions and get to read their storyline
abstract gate
Whatever, I'm done after this arc. I'd say I'm taking my money elsewhere but I stopped spending a while ago. Shove your whale milking farm sideways scopely I'm out and happier for it
dapper drum
not like you don't get to do the missions anymore
you just lose out on last 2 tiers of the mission event
granite zenith
I think its more about changing tactics, with no prior warning... I have no issues with a pay to play event, i take issue with a formerly free to play event being changed to pay to play.
winter leaf
I can understand the change mid stride, but taking game mechanics for granted is entitled at best.
abstract gate
@granite zenith you mean a bait and switch? Yeah odd how mods don't understand what that is
winter leaf
It isn’t a bait & switch, cause you weren’t sold anything.
raw zenith
or maybe we understand that its their game and not every arc will be the same or have the same mechanics
ebon galleon
Scopely’s bigger issue is their lack of on time communication and information. If all info is clear cut communicated before arc start, it would be a much different discussion I think
raw zenith
just because you could do it in Borg arc doesnt mean you can in all subsequent arcs
granite zenith
not calling it bait and switch. that is offering something at a price, and then not having it and offering something else of lesser value in its place.
everything offered for a price was delivered at that price
granite zenith
but, there is expected mechanics...
if i have to raise the price of beer this month, i can do it without warning or telling anyone,
but if i want to keep my customers, I will tell them in advance