#🏆-event-chat
novel hollow
fervent folio
if I get one shot, even with fully upgraded platforms, what good are they?
novel hollow
that's a level 20 RSS raided on our server...
fervent folio
ooh, I cost him a bit more in repairs.....he took all my stuff
shield or share, it's the only defense
eager lava
the power of platforms are comprable to what your level is, and the level of the attacker. @23 with the 23-25 crowd the platforms are worth having, you can pull the ole fixeroo... if youre 23 and one of those lame 32's comes along, those defense platforms are worthless
shields are the only guaranteed defense
if your platforms are fendin off up to level 42, then youre probably in your high thirties, so your advice is fairly worthless
fervent folio
because a 50 still gonna one-shot you
no matter how good your platforms are, you still gonna get cracked if you are not on, if you are on, yeah, I guess you can sit there repairing, or you can just relo or bubble up
so if you are not on, platforms do nothing, as even someone your level can take you out in multiple hits
if you are on, there are a plethora of ways to deal with them
so the platforms are pointless
at any level
well yeah, but having them upgraded just to the point needed to level OPs is enough to keep miners out
or having a ship or two home
either way, doesn't matter, play how you want, I'll save my platforms for Dom events
Others can continue to complain they have no way to complete them because they did stuff like level Platforms outside of a Dom event
that's the whole point I'm making, since we are here in the Event Channel. I'm not saying never upgrade them. Obviously you have to to level OPs and stuff, but don't upgrade them past what you need unless there is a Dom Event.
Commanding a Fleet and Logistics sound a lot like the same exact thing to me
how would you Command a Fleet without Managing Logistics?
maybe it's just because my job requires me to understand Logistics that I feel that way though
then you'd be a Captain not an Admiral
The Admiral signs the standing orders that dictate that stuff
he's in charge of it and gives final say in changes to the plans
novel hollow
if i was the admiral i'd tell those engineers to improve the performance and outlay of those generators and warehouses
warm crown
I still can't tell how many points would it awards for the Dom event.
jaunty crypt
3000 power by 20 for building, is 60000 points
sleek lark
Domination is the worst event possible the rewards are minuscule and you are better saving your turrets for an actual SLB station event
dapper drum
unless he has mats and speedups he will have to compete against others who save it
do em when you need to otherwise save them
fervent folio
@sleek lark for LB yeah, but if you want to complete the SMS for Battle Pass points....
warm crown
Is there a formula for calculating how many points for certain buildings?
hexed gorge
Scopley multiplied by new event = bugs
indigo perch
They misspelled "Tribble-maker"
flint kettle
So. Those f'd over by Scopely early launch of the event and not getting the border. Are we still getting it or not? As, for me, I reached 64 researches and had done 11 pre-event.
Scopely support told me I got a compensation chest. Which was pretty pathetic 🤷♂️ Asking for a friend ofc.
flint kettle
With Scopely I rather trust thus forum than their support/announcements 👀 😘
granite zenith
Due to issues with players completing part of the Outlaw research tree before the event commenced, we will compensate commanders who would have completed milestones of the Elite research event with their proper rewards, including the avatar frame where appropriate. We will be providing any missed prizes as a claimable chest in the Gifts tab. Eligible commanders will receive corresponding compensation within the week of the 20th of July.
in #⭐-official-announcements
reading is fundamental
shrewd totem
With Scopely I rather trust thus forum than their support/announcements 👀 😘
@flint kettle announcements is WITHIN this forum......🤣
flint kettle
@flint kettle announcements is WITHIN this forum......🤣
@shrewd totem double checking 🤷♂️ 😂
Cant a man vent his frustrations. Cmoon. 😂
mental yoke
Are the daily research events for spending mats gone? We were only getting those for quite a while and now they have only been the complete research ones.
prisma geode
@mental yoke has to be something to do with the new outlaw tech tree. Just a guess.
tall valley
@gaunt yacht I didn't see the Quantum Assault event, I just saw "Retrieving..."
gaunt yacht
Well that's good, cus it's not happening anyway
tall valley
😉
spice cove
Am I reading "Ship Component Efficiency" correctly in that it's a cost reduction for anything under the Materials tab?
nova valley
@spice cove that’s the way I read it. Yes. But remember. It’s on base and will always round. 5% reduction on a 10k gas shield for example would net you back 500. Plus I’ve also been told it’s a rebate. So have to have it up front and then be refunded.
granite zenith
Because some people are masochists?
spice cove
It's probably not even a 5% reduction, but 1 / (1.05)
Still, that's a pretty solid bonus
shrewd totem
Yes Base/(X%+1)
robust vapor
Yeah, and it's diminishing returns with any other research you have with that bonus too.
So the first 5% saves you 4.8%, the next 5% saves you 4.3%, the next 5% saves you 3.9%, etc.
So if for example you have 15% reduction from pure crystal and 15% crystal reduction for klingon, an extra 5% reduction should be 2.8% real additional reduction @nova valley
Also I hate how we describe it as a rebate, that masks that real underlying problem that Scopely need to address imo 😂
balmy verge
Anyone know if the Armadas events the next two days are Rogue only (my suspicion) or any Armada (my wish come true)
tawdry kindle
Borg armadas 👀🙄
shrewd totem
Boringmadas *
tawdry kindle
That too 😋
sonic swan
So mission says scrap the stella I scrapped it now it says build the stella and it won't let me 🙈
shrewd totem
Wait for scrapping to finish
sonic swan
It has
shrewd totem
Then go to fac store and redeem the Stella token you got
sonic swan
Ty 😊👍
marsh stump
Question: Is the armada event tomorrow Rogue armadas only?
rough swallow
Is there something that explains the Stella scrapping thing. Is there a limit times scrapped? What is the point of scrapping? Does the research only go on ship when it is rebuilt?
granite zenith
scrapping is the only way other than buying packs to get the stella particles needed for most researches
rough swallow
Each scrap gives full bp to build? Also does it have to be a certain lv to scrap? Or tier?
Does research auto go onto ship? Or do you have to build to get them to activate?
Like I stated they really need and explanation page on the ship
frigid cipher
Anyone else having issues with Stella loot bonus on armadas? As in not getting it
nova valley
@rough swallow https://www.talkingtrekstfc.online/e/build-max-scrap-repeat-your-detailed-guide-to-stella/
granite zenith
@rough swallow
- yes... when done scrapping you get a token which you redeem in the faction store to get 100% of blue prints
- You can scrap at any level, however the higher the level the more stella particles you get back
- As with all ship research, you will have to Dock the ship to get the improvements
- the link works just fine... its a podcast... press play
quasi token
Does the A different breed event disappear if you go from Ops 26 to 27? Even if you made progress in the event?
robust patio
Yesterday, there was a glitch where a number of missions completed on their own and were replaced by the next missions in that string. Problem is, one of the missions that disappeared was the new mission. I and others in my alliance had got to the mission of having to scrap Stella, I haven't scrapped it yet however the string has completely disappeared now. I cannot see any announcement about this and am worried it may effect the rest of this string. Anyone have any info regarding this?
tired creek
I too had that glitch which let me hand in a mission but it was an old mission. Now I'm not sure if that bugged a future Stella mission or not 😁
polar belfry
Ok, besides event, what exactly is the benefit of scrapping the stella
shrewd totem
You get stuff to do outlaw research
polar belfry
@shrewd totem Does it get stronger or anything like that with each scrappin? Is it possible to up the creds with the armada loot and Hi Battsy
shrewd totem
👋🏻 it gets stronger by doing research and for research you need Stella particles and to get them you need to scrap Stella
Credits from armadas increase when you level it up,use 5of10 or a research called highway robbery
sharp ibex
finally, unc gas in the mission rewards
noble oar
Shame the research doesn't massively boost the exp it gets for killing eclipse hostiles
heavy cradle
@shrewd totem - that seems like a very fitting name for things in this research tree, seeing the costs of the items 🤣
abstract gate
It's the dumbest hamster wheel they've come up with so far tbh...it'll be nothing but a side project at best for me. There's little to nothing in this new content that helps to advance my current goals and I'm not seeing any real long term payoff either.
It's just a sinkhole for lat, speed ups, ship xp and rss
dapper drum
but indy creds
and you get a 5th faction to max out
think of all that money you had nothing to spend on that you do now!
abstract gate
I have no money atm and that's still twice as much as I plan to ever spend on this game.
Btw, has anyone visited the locked systems yet and if so what's there? I'm assuming it's the epic armadas as I've not seen any in accessible rogue systems
meager galleon
The main up side to the current content is the Research tree
Which you don’t have to rush
But I agree, the content is nothing new and it’s a side mission per say 🙂
abstract gate
There's some uc reduction research but nothing that screams "must have now!"
meager galleon
Some of the later researches are very key to certain ops lvls 🙂
robust vapor
I'm not convinced yet..
eager hill
@abstract gate some of those research are worth it though. the mats reduction, indi credit inctease, pvp damage(this one can be a horrible for f2p)
abstract gate
It's not enough to distract me from my existing goals...just a side project along with vidar
robust vapor
I know less is less, but don't forget that there's diminishing returns on those reductions too.
I was looking at the repair costs reduction and thinking about those huge repair bills, and how both new research might work out much less than some might expect..
abstract gate
I'll plug away at it but at my pace not scopely's mandated pace
heavy cradle
the repair reduction and warp speed increases are amazing already. the crystal reduction will help in the 30s from what I've heard.
the extra hhp boosts later in the bottom tree will be handy, too
amber pebble
Armarda with a 7 min countdown
upper yoke
So the Eclipse Armadas going to respawn every 24 hours?
tepid agate
Badges? Did someone say they wanted Badges?
tepid agate
seems like that was all the mob wanted last few weeks
dapper drum
I got so many free badges I don't know what to do with them
oh wait this is STFC nm
I have none
need tons
sometimes I forget scopely isn't normal
and the problem isn't them either 🤷
its all those that bit the bait early on and showed them how much they could make
warped stag
I see rare Muddmaradas, only rare. What’s happened to the uncommon?
dapper drum
you need prime uncommon pack
dapper drum
gotta kill the rares taking up the spawn spots
abstract gate
Lag Event in full swing on S29.
Not sure what rewards are.
Must.... keep.... pewing....
@warped stag Yeah, the spawns to rares do not seem to match the rares people have.
Probably part of the Lag Event. 😉
warped stag
@dapper drum yeah, I’ll wait for someone else to do that.
hexed lark
Done 37 researches and have no mats and no f in speed ups left. Talk about forcing Pay2Play.
This event is complete be!!!
ebon galleon
This one you need to build it
hexed lark
Bs*
glossy fog
Omg scopely, improve the armada refresh rate massively
What is the point of an event which is based on numbers of the things being done , when they take so long to refresh!
last hamlet
is it just me or does the armada event rewards be *** ? I dont even bother to buy 100€ pack to do that event to get just few uncommons. Get real scopely.
hexed lark
<@&509691205798592532> mod Exchange systems are not respawning armadas on my server. Systems are empty.
Server 26
dire veldt
Refresh the system view by going to galaxy map and back to system view?
hexed lark
Yep
last hamlet
and this lates event patch also introduced again pve vicual bug and also eternal loops
nice job scopely
hexed lark
<@&509691205798592532> after system refresh, restart and cache clearing...
3 in whole system. For last 15 min.
velvet crypt
300% bonus of stella is not working
hallow ember
Nice to see that the badges event only shows up if you are level 27. I mean, it's not like the rest of us need them or anything too.
icy trout
Any help here.. the Stella scrapping says scrap at level 10. So you must upgrade all the components... shield.. weapons etc and don’t tier up but scrap at that point? We are so confused with the comma around this.
radiant flicker
Someone has prime stella efficiency? Does it work ? So tier 2 stella will need 263 instead of 525 uranium?
abstract gate
Yes tier once, lvl it to 10 then scrap
primal aspen
Absolutely no reason to buy the armada pack for the eclipse armadas since they do not respawn fast enough. Looks like another wasted even that I cannot complete because I cannot start one without killing off the team who started it 0.5 seconds before me...
granite zenith
so... kill off the team that started ,5 sec before you
hexed lark
<@&509691205798592532> How do they think it's right to charge money for missions for me to find out I have to spend another $140 to do research for the f in ship????????
shrewd totem
What?
lyric saddle
The game glitched and cost me Jellyfish blueprints and they still won't get back to me after three CS reports. Go figure.
hexed lark
Did 37 researches out of mats and can t do my missions now....
hexed gorge
Anyway to speed up scrapping a ship?
hexed lark
They screwed this huge! I will not be buying battle pass nectar due to this crap.
*next arc
hexed lark
I am frozen at mission set 2 no mats to do anymore research to open Stella. They made research requirement way too high.
I did 37 and not near opening Stella.
shrewd totem
It was pretty easy for me🤷♂️
What level are you? At lvl27+ it shouldnt be that hard
hexed lark
31
Spent all I had and speed ups now frozen and I paid to play these fricken missions.
shrewd totem
🤔 can I see your research tree?
I only needed to do 1-2 of each research before Stella research to unlock it
shrewd totem
🤔
novel hollow
hmm well shit i don't remember breakast maybe i'm wrong
hexed lark
Have no mats to continue research yet I paid for missions. They plan on refunding for This?
novel hollow
yeah you have to do all 3 int, exp, bs bartering to unlock pult bargaining II level 2
shrewd totem
You can do the missions later,they arent going anywhere
hexed lark
Point is this should not have happened to someone paying for a pass!!!
novel hollow
hexed lark
Point is this should not have happened to someone paying for a pass!!!
novel hollow
pass doesn't equal research management it equals better stuff for you later
severe bridge
@hexed lark probably happened bc you paid and wanted to rush something that takes a little time and effort
shrewd totem
Also not having rss/unc to do research isnt really Scopely's fault
novel hollow
I want to register my complaint that Scopely is allowing people to complete missions later i paid to complete my missions early and damnit those who didn't are getting the same rewards.
shrewd totem
👀
severe bridge
pretty sure the missions can be on your own timeline?
shrewd totem
I want compensation! Because I didnt get auto mission complete bug!
novel hollow
i mean 10 more days for Stella progression... damit .... or the badges
hexed lark
Is so when they have known for how long the refinery is a rip off!
shrewd totem
You really need to calm down because the thing you are complaining about is pointless
hexed lark
Not exual exchange to mining done. What we get in return is not worth the time mining.
shrewd totem
You paid to get these missions which doesnt mean you are going to be able to do them right now,you can do them later,they arent going anywhere
novel hollow
so Khan seems useless on the Mudd madas not dealing enough damage for him to really pay off plus the low crit rate of the stella...
shrewd totem
5of10/Kirk/Spock prob will be best crew for Stella
cobalt flare
Can someone expand upon what Prime Rogue Credit research does for you (,other than coming with lots of dilithium)?
novel hollow
Seems like it gives you better rewards for all the items in the Rogue Faction store...
@shrewd totem am i reading the Official announcement correctly that the dummies who started research early (like me) and completed 70 researches (that was exhausting) shouldn't look for their pack until the Earliest Monday the 20th?
novel hollow
ya so between 20 - 26th at 12:00 Midnight Scopely standard time ...
shrewd totem
Yep hopefully
icy sapphire
Has anyone tested a good combo for Mudd on his ship? I don’t seem to find a combo that is worth the effort 😖
prisma geode
Mudd needs buddies, he has no buddies to help him yet.
covert surge
@twilit imp scraped the Stella said I would receive rebuild token and didn't get one
teal jackal
Did it finish scrapping?
Try to collect your BPs from the faction store.
Otherwise you need to send a ticket to support.
@prisma geode they need to add Mudd's women
covert surge
Yea it finished it. I'll throw a ticket in
shrewd totem
Check your outlaw fac store first
gleaming quail
Has anyone experienced this? Got the stella a day early, done (or thought i had) the second set of missions before getting the ship to level 10, now I don’t have the breakdown mission for scrapping the stella. Alliance members who got the stella today and got it to level 10 and completed the missions have the breakdown mission. Several alliance members who got the stella early reporting the same thing
cobalt flare
@novel hollow , I mean, yeah, it should double rewards, I guess (100%). But how would we know? And all awards in the Rogue store? Does anyone know in detail what it really does?
hybrid sigil
Are we to scrap stella a second time at lvl ten again or go higher lvl?
cobalt flare
Let me ask differently: what exactly counts as a 'Rogue Credit Bundle'?
shrewd totem
@cobalt flare increases these credits in outlaw fac store
hexed lark
Seems something is broken on armada payouts. Been sitting at 1173 for 5 armadas Now?
I have also restarted and the like. It is NOT that.
robust vapor
@hexed lark have you recalled?
cobalt flare
@shrewd totem thanks!
ancient meadow
Yea there is something wrong with the armadas. Canceling automatically and such
silent fiber
Am I correct that 144K particles can be obtained for hundreds of scrappings? Means years and decades? And can be bypassed just for 100 Euro?
I understand that paying players should have advantages. Ok, 2 research paths instead of one path f2p. But allow paying players to get for a fee things that can be obtained in decades by f2p? Someone can say "imbalanced", I can use "amoral"... Even prime officers can be obtained for free for a reasonable amount of time
dapper drum
lol decades
you know the more you tier it and level it the more it gives
and prime officers once your shipyard is levelled enough can be gained for free in matter of a day
abstract gate
At 100 particles per scrap and scrapping every day that's only about 3years...as stated the higher it's lvl the more you get. Realistically that represents a few months at most of dedicated f2p grinding
meager galleon
100 Particles per tier, Uranium cooldown is limiting Factor mostly
abstract gate
And I don't think we've seen what's in the rare eclipse armada credit boxes yet or the epics. Put away the pitchforks for now
The uranium cd can be manipulated a bit with well timed rep ups
meager galleon
Only on early rep lvls
eager shore
Wow, WTF is with these UNC mats requirements for research just to build the Stella?
I can't even build the thing because I'm not going to get the research done fast enough, because I'm waiting on the refinery for UNC gas.
abstract gate
What you're forgetting is a f2p has no use for that many particles straight off the bat. See above for reasons (hint it's the lack of uc's)
Captain tight pants up there could be gifted 144k particles and he'd still be fkd
silent fiber
@abstract gate but at least you need not to pay uranium continuously... I scrapped it at t3 and now have cool down for uranium and can only tier to t2 for the next 2 days
junior ingot
I have mine at tier 2 ready to tier to 3, should I scrap at level 10 or tier it and level to 15 before scrapping?
abstract gate
Whatever I'm out, there's no pleasing some people. It's a dumb fkg hamster wheel with minimal payoff, just go at your own pace and thank the whales that fund the game for you
silent fiber
@junior ingot just remember - it will return at tier1 lvl1 after you rebuild it. If you don't really need Stella particles for research - I suggest not to scrap it or scrap at lower tiers, where you don't spend much uranium
urban spire
What rabbit hole does this take us down...
abstract gate
106days...🤣
strange karma
does the stella get more powerful each time you scrap and rebuild ?
split sequoia
jaunty sonnet
Anyone figured out a good crew for Stella armuddas yet?
And the ratio for Stella rather than normal ships?
winged tulip
We found 29 is easily doable with all stellas, 31 took about half hull with a mix of t1 and t3 stellas, 33 we did 4 stellas one centurion, all stellas died and centurion survived with practically no health lost.
junior ingot
@silent fiber
Thanks
dapper drum
tier 1 stella can take out a lvl 40 epic armada
but a kehra is all the ship you ever need
dapper drum
nobody knows that!
also the rares are not following their normal level pattern either
so why I'm thinking the epics might be 40 and not 39
dim zephyr
@dapper drum do u rate the Kehra highly?
river ingot
If im reading this right the only reason to scrap stella is to get particles for research and the higger u tier b4 scrapping gives more particles. No other benefit. Correct?
ashen wharf
Yes
It doesn't get stronger every scrap it gets stronger via research
The old bait and switch
Gets the poor saps every time
crisp cloud
Scrapping is also part of a mission series.
dapper drum
@dim zephyr the kehra is all the ship you will ever need
if you ever watched legends of tomorrow you will get the reference 🤣
neon badge
Shoulda posted this earlier, scopely support wants me to time travel to report bugs
sage kelp
I dont seem to have the breakdown mission, any idea what is wrong?
Also tried to search for breakdown but that is a very popular word on this discord 🤣🤣
neon badge
Try searching scopely sucks, your phone will explode
wispy obsidian
How many times are we supposed to scrap the Stella?
blazing crow
Has anyone experienced this? Got the stella a day early, done (or thought i had) the second set of missions before getting the ship to level 10, now I don’t have the breakdown mission for scrapping the stella. Alliance members who got the stella today and got it to level 10 and completed the missions have the breakdown mission. Several alliance members who got the stella early reporting the same thing
@gleaming quail I got mine a day early too, my problem is I can't scrap the Stella now at ops level 28
shrewd totem
How many times are we supposed to scrap the Stella?
@wispy obsidian as much as you want
You scrap it to get Stella particles and more particles means more research so how much research do you want to do?
neon badge
Just remember the chest with parts is on a 2 day timer
wispy obsidian
Thx and is there a mission that requires her to be scrapped? Cause I haven’t even done the second set of missions yet
neon badge
So don't blow your load upgrading to like 25 and then sit at lvl5 for 48 hours
wispy obsidian
Lol I did that already lesson learned
shrewd totem
@wispy obsidian I have seen 1 mission asking from you to scrap a lvl10 Stella
wispy obsidian
Oh man guess I better start doing them, I got to wait 48hrs now
gleaming quail
@blazing crow im ops 35 and itll let me scrap it, but there should be a mission for it yet my second set disappeared after it said i needed to wait until lvl10 before doing so
shrewd totem
@blazing crow remove Stella from your dock,you cant scrap ships you are using
neon badge
I'm screenshotting every step of the scrap mission, I have a feeling i might need it
You know for when it does glitch, and scopely responds to my ticket in a week....
granite zenith
🙄
eager hill
@wispy obsidian you need to max and scrap it 293 times to max all relevant research for it, if that was what you meant to ask.
tribal elbow
@neon badge You can reproduce that bug if you go through multiple ''req not met go to next research''
thin zephyr
Well... pike for armadas? 👀🙈
eager hill
pike+gaila is a viable setup for armada. not as good vs muddarmadas though.
torpid light
Would happily drop £20 for some more armada directives, shame I am only offered the £99 pack. Scopely misses out again.
meager galleon
@eager hill actually much better on outlaw armadas
They have higher Crit chance and Crit damage over normal armadas
Can be very handy having anti Crit player
eager hill
they do have 20% crit chance, but reducing crit damage from 200% down to 90-95% isn't ideal. And if we were to crew 2 ships with gaila that just doesn't cut it. you will need good dps to kill them before 100 rounds' defeat.
meager galleon
One will do
eager hill
better to stick to kirk+spock+khan to survive few more rounds. would be near same damage reduction if that 5th ship survives few more rounds to fodder. Plus khan means more dps all those surviving rounds. But yeah no clear winner here. just preference
inland hamlet
What I never understand is people doing new Armadas with normal ships.
5 lvl 1 Stella's can hit a lvl 30
And all those get 300% loot.
Build your Stella lvl it to 5 run Armadas... Get tonnes of stuff, scrap it, repeat tomorrow.
Tomorrow built it lvl it to 10 run armadas
Scrap it
3rd day build it lvl to 15 run Armadas scrap it.
4th day build to lvl 20 run armadas scrap.
Repeat to whatever your uranium and rep lvl is now
By doing it in normal ships you are reducing rewards.
meager galleon
Aslong as you got the credits to buy the uranium on cooldown it’s w/e
inland hamlet
Hence no components on day 1
eager hill
@inland hamlet can do higher level armadas for quick solo event completion.
meager galleon
Alliances are also playing for ALB and low Armadas don’t cut it with limited Dirs
inland hamlet
Alb also includes 1 point per normal hostile whereas each armada is 7 mins
How many low hostiles can you kill in 7 mins compared to arnadas
Also Stella use allows higher Armadas and quick cheap tepairs
eager hill
we mainly do lvl 40 ones. so that is 3-4k or 9k-10k points per run for same amount of directives.
inland hamlet
Also since solo is damage based Stella does more damage
granite zenith
I think the point is... everyone has different methods...
inland hamlet
Like ss above we won by skin of our teeth we all won 480 coin
, 5 Stella's could do same all survive and take home 1500
meager galleon
What use is the coin if you ur Uranium is on Cd anyway and you can get a reasonable amount of the top lvl armadas with normal ships
While also increasing standing in ALB and SLB much more
meager galleon
Rep chest is off normal hostiles. I have 380K of those credits from farming the previous event before Stella was available f2p
inland hamlet
Uranium has 3d cooldown
fervent folio
there usually is an optimal path, but not everyone always follows the optimal path and it's still pretty new content so many may not have figured out the optimal path either
inland hamlet
1500 per armada v 480nper armada, which saves directives
eager hill
he means nthe heist loot chest. that one also has 3 day cooldown. same story there
fervent folio
but basically, just becaue you choose to follow what you believe to be the optimal path does not mean what other people are doing is wrong. You play your way, let them play theirs
eager hill
yeah and bt the time you advance to next outlaw rep, these events will be done.
inland hamlet
Sorry I much prefer running 3 Armadas, rather than 9
And 9 Armadas average cost of repairs... Massive v minimal with stella
meager galleon
I guess you’re ignoring ALB and SLB then 🙂
But first place on ALB Is just under 1B steel for me so
inland hamlet
Nope solo requires 3 Armadas at lvl 30 a day
meager galleon
I’ll be fighting for that with everyone else
inland hamlet
Scrapping and building is main time cost and main points
meager galleon
Stella is very long game if you’re playing f2p. Trying to min max some credit income off armadas when you can make do without the Stella extra income right now is short sighted to me
inland hamlet
How many Armadas do you need for 20k points
Points for lvl 5 scraps is 480k
Points for lvl 20 scraps is 570k
meager galleon
ALB stands for Alliance Leader Board
inland hamlet
That's not including Armadas run
meager galleon
inland hamlet
Alb includes killing hostiles 1 point
meager galleon
You go with 6 man and win vs a lvl 40 Unc or Rare (which our alliance does)
And you get 6x 630 or 6x1190 points for the alliance board
inland hamlet
So you could kill 10j lvl 1 hostiles that's 10kbpoints
Each takes 7 min x directives
meager galleon
I think you’re way off with your math
inland hamlet
Look at first button on left
Any hostile =1 point
Armada takes 100 directives and 7 mins
meager galleon
11,340 Hostiles you’re saying that 6 people would have to kill just to break even with a 40 rare for that board
That takes 7 minutes and can run multiple each day
inland hamlet
But how many rare directives do you have
meager galleon
Nobody is going to compete in ALB via hostile kills
inland hamlet
OK put it this way I am lvl 24, I can't build or scrap a stella
meager galleon
Plenty in our alliance can open about 4-6 each I think from previous events
inland hamlet
Yes I have this alb
4 to 6 rares from packs you buy
Ax unc each person has is 340
Without buying packs
meager galleon
No not from packs
inland hamlet
The average uncommon gives 0 rare directivrs
meager galleon
I literally just said from events (the ones that ran prior to armadas have dirs as rewards)
inland hamlet
So you can run 4 to 6 rares per day as an alliance
And about 30 uncommon with spawn rates and competition
meager galleon
No, that’s each player on average having access to start
inland hamlet
But Armadas are limited..
meager galleon
Anyway I’m gonna cease talking on this topic, you do you and farm some extra credits
inland hamlet
You will have more directives than Armadas you can run
All was saying is Stella's ate better to run the Armadas than normal ships
meager galleon
And I strongly disagree
fervent folio
you are also ignoring the fact that one could have a second ship off grinding hostiles while doing the Armada
so more points for ALB
dapper drum
unless you have spent you are not doing anything above lvl 35
unless you are going in with g3 epics or g4's
but to that pike comment he wasn't running gaila he was out hitting hostiles so was PMC
not PXG
and gaila with pike at 60% synergy is -80% damage reduction on crit
so 200k becomes 40k
and the 33+ crits are hitting around 500k so that becomes under 100k which is way weaker then a non crit
south arrow
So scopley chests out again only a chance for one badge in the event store how cheap can you be
novel hollow
Who’s the X in PXG?
dapper drum
any other shakedown
you just need them for synergy
use PXG on the weakest ship in the armada
its active the entire round wether they die or not
novel hollow
Ok I’ll keep that in mind. Is KIrk Spock Gaila is worthwhile?
dapper drum
no
don't use gaila on a good setup
if you have to use a regen crew use a stack for 3rd
either penetration,damage or crit
and gaila without pike is only 50%
its pointless makes a crit do normal damage thats all
novel hollow
K
Makes sense reaffirms a couple of things. Why decious and Nero as caps vs KS + Nero or decious? No use in too many morales?
fervent folio
No use in any more than one Morale if I am not mistaken, same with Hull Breach
dapper drum
no you need morale for your own ship
don't fall for the visual glitches in battle log
breech and burn is on the armada
morale is on your own ship
running 2 or more gorkon is best
as breech doesn't always last its fullest
so always having an active breech combined with khan and decius maximizes your DPR
if you have atleast 2 that will survive to the final rounds using gorkon you can have 2 more using carol instead of gorkon and the 5th as the crit destroyer
5 sally's at 1.2m can take out a lvl 35 uncommon regular armada
lvl 32 rare and 30 epic
start running same crew synergies on 37+ uncommon just need to bring bigger ships
just remember the blood sacrifice has to be PXG
novel hollow
ROGER that, thanks @dapper drum
dapper drum
still would recommend g3 epic or better or near max g3 rares atleast 2 if you are going above lvl 35 uncommon/rare and 33 epic
not only is their health higher, their defense and penetration is nuts
g3 uncommons just can't get their damage through and when they get hit their defense is shredded
queen quest
does stella have a scrap limit?
weak jackal
Nope
dapper drum
there is strategy too it
build it up enough that you can build it up a bit again after rebuilding it without having to wait for uranium cooldown
just don't waste uranium on components if you can't make the next tier
queen quest
but there is no way to permanently cripple growth or anything?
dapper drum
no
queen quest
k, one of my guys was freaking out becuase someone told him he messed up by scrapping before max
queen quest
i told him i though thtere was no scrap limit, he probably just wasted a bit of his own time
dapper drum
unless you have the money to drop on uranium no points going for max it will only mean you have to use more speedups and rss sooner on techs
queen quest
thanks, that will put him at ease
drowsy viper
Heist boxes aren’t recommended that early, right?
Better to put all credits into uranium?
dapper drum
creds help with buying the needed tech parts
and rep but if you are killing enough armadas it doesn't matter
crisp fable
When it says if you have Elite Battle pass you get two side missions, but in the event store... Aren't these 'side' missions, missions we have already done earlier???
Also I had surgery and I have not been totally with it... I have 139800 / 152000 to get to milestone 10 to start the Stella. To make it all the way to the last milestone, is it time for me to bite the bullet and buy the $20 or $50 battle pass package if I want to get going and have some more resources to do the Stella thing and get current on the event?
granite zenith
- no they are new missions
- that is a personal decision do you want to pay to have the stella now... or wait a couple of days
as for being behind... the only thing you are really gonna be behind on is the progression event, power and ship wise, since we have to scrap it multiple times, you really wont be behind in that regard
abstract gate
This should really be a two month arc. There is too much to learn. We have to depend on alliance members to finish it with decent rewards.
You can’t expect everyone to get it and they expect everyone to be able to hit it well so as an alliance we all can. That doesn’t work with real life.
crisp fable
@granite zenith do you think I am too far late to finish without a purchase?
Also, scrapping this ship to get it again... Does tier and level matter for this particular odd portion of this whole thing?
drifting garnet
After you scrap the Stella, How do you get the Stella back?
granite zenith
there has traditionally been a few events that you can miss before purchasing points becomes necessary... I did buy the points because i wanted the stella on day 1... but that was a personal choice @crisp fable
Tier and Level matters for the amount of stella particles that you receive from the scrap... when you complete the scrap, you get a token, that in the Rogue Faction store can be instantly redeemed for 100 bps
the higher the level, the more particles and the more time it takes to scrap... however as rep has to be earned by everyone (no buying rep) the highest ANYONE can get it at this time is Tier 4...
oblique mica
Any tips on stella crew vs amarda?
using PMC for exchange hostiles seems best for me
dapper drum
gaila as capt going solo
oblique mica
k, and kirk/spock or others better?
abstract gate
I use Spock/Kirk(c)/Uhura with a balanced A/H/D.
strange atlas
@twilit imp any update on the next Jelly event?
exotic schooner
Whats a good crew for jelly for a starting player thats at lvl 17
clear iris
Hi, how do we get alpha particles?
abstract gate
@clear iris if you click on one it will tell you. For now it’s thus either research or purchasing them in the € store
clear iris
@clear iris if you click on one it will tell you. For now it’s thus either research or purchasing them in the € store
@abstract gate thats my problem, i bought it so cant answer when one of my alliance mate is asking me. So it’s unlocked by the first research tree then?
abstract gate
More specifically, you get one for researching anarchist weaponry, and one for eclipse defences
clear iris
But thx, I’ll tell him to click on it
abstract gate
Just those two for now
abstract gate
Erm. Not for nothing, but I keep getting epic directives and there ain't no epic exchange armadas, and I have yet to get any rare directives from the uncommons.
Is this some kind of "buy a pack to get rares so you can get useful stuff" deal?
@abstract gate you could win the rare directives in the roguish ways leaderboard burst
That or packs is all so far I think
The epics are in the locked systems (guessing but it makes sense), so at scoundrel rep you can buy warp tokens to go there and fight epics...my guess would be that the pve boxes there give rare directives possibly uc too (all just guess work but it makes sense by scopely's standards)
tropic juniper
Casing the Joint Event is a real grind. Armada Respawn rate too slow, too many rares, credits too slow to obtain.
For the previous borg event the balance was right, lots of uncommon armadas, rares in separate system. Enough credits to compete the event too. Why change it?
abstract gate
Armadas respawn almost instantly...
tropic juniper
Just looked in Exchange Alpha on my server. There are 4 targets in there. Maybe something wrong with that system
abstract gate
Possibly...on my server they respawn in 5-10secs...they do flip from rare to uc though...can become an issue if not enough people are doing rares
edgy heron
Is it worth upgrading any Stella components after tiering before scrapping?
abstract gate
No
Scrap at a clean tier with max lvl's for that tier...any additional upgrades are a waste of plutonium
novel hollow
Definitely not instant spawns on our server either.
They were nice enough to put some in hann though.
ashen grove
Anyone know yet if there will be a F2P way to get more alpha particles?
Like will we be able to unlock both paths in outlaw research without having to buy a pack?
granite zenith
yes...when you reach scoundrel and research Eclipse defenses, you will get an alpha particle to go backwards, and a beta particle to go forward
abstract gate
People are losing directives on s29 because they're starting armadas thinking no one else is on them when the lag is keeping the flags from being shown.
Given that Scopely is SELLING directives...
fleet dove
I’m not gonna buy those
hollow goblet
No Jelly event again Scopely. FFS.
lucid scaffold
Where to find a list of rogue missions
silent kayak
target practice,,,, DEVS... PLEASE!!!!! figure out something different than taking a beating for a chance on getting your base blasted in half.... ARE YOU FREAKING COMATOSE OVER THERE DEVS?????🤨 🧐
quasi token
Will the A dark breed event disappear when you go to Ops 27? If you still need points to complete the first Milestone?
high widget
Enough is enough with this bullshit target practice event, Scopely. We get it. The FU to those of us who never bought a jelly is loud and clear.
olive rover
Ahem
tall bluff
PvP would be great if you could warp to the system. Need zeta tokens too. When is the next event for zeta tokens for "All" customers to play?
eager lava
the target practice event has always been lame. just once would be cool to have it be phin, talla tarus
the rest of us over here warpin to the pvp systems, meanwhile, ragnar is teleporting or somethin... maybe the array from voyager is pullin him there
silent kayak
like waffleking said... this is SCOPLEY's way of telling us little people we should spend MONEY or else!!!!
eager lava
eh, if youre too much past lvl20-22 the jelly is obsolete, unless you have an overwhelming urge to wreck phindras and tallas with it, in which case, the target practice is your favorite event
silent kayak
Ahem
@olive rover nice that you have all epic crew there... most of us are not so well spent as you are
shrewd totem
You dont need to spend to have that crew
novel hollow
that's two crews he's given ya
silent kayak
You dont need to spend to have that crew
@shrewd totem that remark is incredibly lame on your part
shrewd totem
🤔
novel hollow
BS your remark of calling someone with crews a spender is kind of lame too
let me take out the KINDA ---
eager lava
be interested to know what ops level that jelly was snipe...because that is absolutely a factor
novel hollow
looks like a 4 too me... for the first ops level
olive rover
44
shrewd totem
2nd one looks like 40+
silent kayak
I do not spend on such things... I make do... until I get hit with the supreme lame-o's who think the money spent on jelly's was a great move on thier part.
olive rover
44 for first one and 46 for second
eager lava
nice
novel hollow
i don't have a Jelly, i'm on 43 hours of shield or I'd go kill a few ships ... cannon fodder it is .
nova sierra
question re: scrapping stella...
If you tier up to say t5, but stay stay at lvl 10.. do you still get the better scraps?
eager lava
heh, i have a jelly, but these target practice events aint woth the repairs, 2-1/2 minutes flight time just to land in the middle of a group of lvl36's racing to be the first to wreck it? pff, thats not cost effective. i just have my coffee while sending my phin and talla on autopilot until i get those sweet sweet zeta tokens
novel hollow
No you have to Tier and Level
nova sierra
ty
shrewd totem
Level is more important
novel hollow
and don't tier too much or you won't have any uranium left when you build the second
nova sierra
i'm on my 6th
nova sierra
5th?
shrewd totem
How did you get rare uranium?
nova sierra
6th ship, not tier
shrewd totem
Ah😅
dapper drum
doesn't matter if you show the morons winning crews they will still complain because they don't have the jelly
nice iteration though with bones and mirek
late round damage must been insane
subtle ocean
I used a suggested crew from this page:
shrewd totem
Nice
subtle ocean
I can share several more now - going back to one of those systems just to kill people for the fun of it. event was done a while ago. just killed a 110k in power. going back to try on a loney 114k one.
fervent folio
well, that worked, was upgrading a building to 23 anyway, so neat I guess
just odd, I would have expected encouragement to move up to 25 for the Vi'Dar....which I am considering, just a lot of research to catch up on for 23 still
polar belfry
Who goes good with Mudd on officers
shrewd totem
I wouldnt recommend using Mudd
His officer ability is nice but useless because when your shield depletes you only survive a few battles.
His cap ability isnt that effective without any synergy or multiple Mudd in an armada
polar belfry
@shrewd totem Thank you Battsy... Thats what I thought.
rugged zenith
@subtle ocean it only works when your officers are vastly better than the jelly officers. This pvp event sucks
random tide
@shrewd totem if you decide to solo exchange armadas. Say the 4 mil level 29 uncommon ones, wouldn't mudd be a very good capt? Because they fire what, 8 times? So the 8th hit would be 70% damage reduction. Haven't tried it, but just curious. That would be quite the damage reduction when soloing.
shrewd totem
I havent done that much testing with new armadas sadly so no idea
If they really fire that much,would be worthy for a try. Maybe Mudd+5+6
random tide
I thought about it on my drive. Yesterday I was reading logs to see how long my stella lasted and I realized these armadas fire alot. But I was doing bigger ones. Since mudd is mostly meant to be used alone, then soloing the 29s for uncommon credits might be worth while if the lower level armadas fire as much as some of the medium power ones. And would greatly increase my credit production. Just shower thoughts tho
Would be curious what @loud solar and/or @nova valley think.
granite zenith
@nova valley would tell you this was covered in the last two podcasts
random tide
Ah. Not caught up. Last one i listened to was the one with panic
dapper drum
you can just solo 31's with a g3 uncommon
don't even need mudd
just stack shield and attack
unless you have tiered up your stella to 4 or higher you won't be gaining much more loot
rugged zenith
The Stella is garbage
random tide
I cant solo 31s
And its about maxing credits for what I can do. 29s I can solo and if 8 can get 300% credits, then I'm gonna do that. Cuz it maximizes my credits per directives used
sullen veldt
There are not enough exchanges to do armadas against - spawn times need to be sped up - imho
high widget
@olive rover Tried both sets of those first two crews at smaller strength spreads. Died horribly. Guessing a ops 36 maybe has those officers leveled a bit higher than an ops 28...
olive rover
My Krell is maxed and Kang and Char are 800%(T4)
nova valley
Just playing a little bit of catch-up here real quick. 27 is easily soloed. But as we are discovering over the last few days entire teams of Stellas seem to be the way to go. However one non-Stella ship screws it up for everybody. Because the power distribution will be off. If everybody runs a Stella and for the most part equal shares are going to be given and then the Stella ship bonus pays out really well for everybody.
My team has been able to run five man stella teams against 33‘s and down. Paying out on average of 1000 to 1500 credits per person depending on research
On a 31
Stella is not garbage as long as she’s used properly. Which at this point is a very singular purpose. But if you want to research which in my opinion is definitely worth it, and the Stella is the only way to it
Or paying
granite zenith
even $$ only gets you so far... some of the good research is rep locked
@sullen veldt they are instant respwawns... until lag kicks in... how much faster do you want them to get?? 🤣
potent temple
My team has been able to run five man stella teams against 33‘s and down. Paying out on average of 1000 to 1500 credits per person depending on research
@nova valley hi! What tier are the Stella’s? And minimum research level? Thanks
random tide
And what officers
nova valley
So I personally run 5,6,khan on my level 20 stella. But several of my team would be at level 5, or even 15. My research is low. And we can still tackle a 33. However. We have one guy on our team and when he leads, we can do a 6 man 35. But his research is 55/160. So he’s up there. Without him tho I stick to 33’s.
@potent temple @random tide as far as the rest. Most are running morale with a damage officer. So Kirk spock khan. Kirk spock Decius. Kirk spock carol. Etc
nova valley
She reduces crits right?
random tide
10-4
potent temple
@nova valley thank you I’ll get a team together and try 👍
random tide
I dont have khan and my kirk spock is low
dapper drum
if you can't go for shield stacking go for DPR
nova valley
I’ve heard that she is effective even dating back to borgmadas. But I never adopted. Mainly cause I also want 5’s loot bonus on top of Stella, 5’s mitigation is 600% with 6, who is also an armada officer. So it works for me. But it’s a unique combo.
dapper drum
100% spock isn't going to help much, the eclipse armadas hit frequent
so atleast help out in the start and do as much damage as you can
those with 400/750 spock and khan/decius will finish the job
raw oasis
So let me get this straight, the first “a different breed” event was only spending uncommon and rare mats in buildings, was impossible to do and reach any milestone.
Now the second “a different breed” event is any 3* common and uncommon mat on buildings and it’s twice as hard?????
Wth scopely!??!
uncut salmon
Can anyone tell me if I purchase the elite key pass will I get all the goodies from the already completed steps?
Thank you.
abstract gate
@uncut salmon yes
kind spire
Hello everyone! Does anyone know the PROPER scrapping of the Stella? I’ve scrapped mine 2x already and got it to tier 3, but it doesn’t seem stronger than it was at tier 2 after the last scrap.
I don’t understand what I’m doing wrong 😅
pseudo rover
Stella doesn't become stronger by scrapping but each scrap provides you the resources to do research to make it stronger.
kind spire
And regarding eclipse armadas.. not bragging but.... no stella needed. But with stellas, the overall damage taken by the big boy is less, and your repair cost is way lower from a Stella than say a Saladin or Intrepid.
@john, so do I need to keep scrapping it at higher levels?
pseudo rover
As long as you have research that needs Stella Particles, probably yes
kind spire
First scrap was lvl 10, and second scrap was also at level 10. I meant should I bring it higher before breaking down again?
pseudo rover
And Stella is recommended later because of its ability, which increases armada resources dropped aka gives you more value for your directives.
That depends on how much uranium you have to 'waste'. Some don't. Some do. Check the scrapyard every 5 levels and see if the costs/rewards are worth it to you.
kind spire
Thanks a lot for your tips mate! Appreciate it!
pseudo rover
Sure thing! 😄 🖖
inland hemlock
So basically I can keep scrapping and scrapping it at lvl 5 without spending a single uranium just for the 100 particles right?
earnest citrus
Yes, but with the 12h or so scrapping time before you can build it again
long slate
How do you acquire rare uranium?
raw oasis
“A different breed” 2nd time around sucks twice as much, seems appropriate.
earnest citrus
@long slate From the Rogue Faction Store, at Scoundrel I think
gloomy radish
I can't find any rare uranium, either.
Here's my store, which is where I'm supposed to be able to buy it.
What am I missing?
prisma geode
Your faction level isn’t high enough to unlock rare uranium
@gloomy radish Scopely is going to make you wait
Similar to how the augment store worked
gloomy radish
@prisma geode I thought of that, but figured I'd at least see it grayed out. Do you know what level it unlocks at?
prisma geode
No
weak copper
@gloomy radish think it’s been mentioned that no one can get it higher than t4 at the moment because no one can get rare uranium
gloomy radish
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the responses.
rocky obsidian
I’m so sick of this. I got screwed out of any uncommon in this refinery run and still can’t build the Stella. It’s so silly to require this much uncommon to build a ship with one purpose that spends half its time in the scrapper.
I paid for the extra battle pass and I’m still bottlenecked. I guess I didn’t pay enough for $copely 😡
royal horizon
Need 6k particles for next research, only get 380 to scrap, doesnt make sense to scrap, haven't scrapped at all
granite zenith
yes... its a grind... in an mmo... who woulda thought
tawny olive
Thought you weren't going to remove Khan from the Swarms fricking lame...
eager lava
is khan shards in the swarm event rewards a level 28 and up thing or somethin? i keep seein people complain how khan aint there no more and ive never seen those shards in the swarm rewards...
timid meadow
Why there is again a swarms event without Khan as reward? I have to kill 263 lvl32 swarms to get 6m trit... Scopely please dont make the game worse and give us the Khan reward back!
granite zenith
🙄 it was announced that shards would not be in the swarms during the battlepass over a week ago
and yes
eager lava
makes no sense to het khan shards in the swarm rewards anyway, he had nothing to do with that storyline, one would think his shards would be rewards for data mining and other augment type events...
granite zenith
its actually very simple... Khan, being the most powerful card stats upon promotion was always meant to be limited.... and it was by ind credits... now that indy credits are becoming more frequent... they need another way to limit it... i get the mindset
spark wedge
I’m a level 28, how do I get another alpha particle? I have a feeling the answer is buy it or up to level 30/31...
timid meadow
@spark wedge when u click on the Alpha particle it shows u which research have to be researched to get it for free
granite zenith
eclipse defenses gets your second alpha, as well as your first beta for free... so you have to grind rep to scoundrel
or buy it 🤷♂️
and yes there are some ops requirements as well as rep requirements
spark wedge
Yeah I was afraid of that. Saw that level 31 pre-req but I’m not pushing up just for that
granite zenith
you can wait... the tree isn't going anywhere
spark wedge
Yeah, just an impatient bastard haha
dapper drum
only reason to keep scrapping it so early is for the event points
higher the tier more stella particles you get more points as well
if wasn't an event I would just keep tiering it up while I work on current techs I can do
abstract gate
Based on what I read above, I have to ask. At Scoundrel do you get to buy an alpha particle?
dapper drum
you get token needed to eclipse defenses
rapid axle
I want to know when Scopely is going to fix the Shield Event with this PVP event?
Just lost 400 Mill Steel cause of the defect in code
inland hamlet
@rapid axle why just send a ship to the system and wait for som9ne to try to kill it
rapid axle
@inland hamlet I left my Jelly in the PvP and had to run to grocery store with an 8 hour shield on my base and had it killed and my shield dropped
shut hull
Hey when is the next jelly event going to be (to get baby jelly parts)
hoary carbon
anyone know when the iss jelly event will be on?
yes i know it's every month, just don't remember when it was on last
olive rover
It was in the middle of the month the past few months
Like second or third weekend
But who knows, maybe Scopley is changing up the event since for most servers from launch are heavily saturated now for potential people
Maybe they'll launch an ops event for once.... 😂
lapis forum
Any info on the 3-day Apex Rogue event?
void bone
Why is it not registering that im on rank 23 for the race to armada event infact im doing rank 24 5hrs away
clever hound
Will there be a outlaw 3?
robust vapor
Probably, but nothing confirmed AFAIK. I reckon give it a couple of weeks after this one and we'll see another one
flint kettle
So it's the 20th. Where's that promised chest with border from previous event as they said. 👀
heavy edge
They said the WEEK of 20'th. Still 6 days 🙂
autumn ether
I’d guess that arc 3 would release Sehsa, Ro Mudd, and Eurydice
hexed gorge
Or server vs server raiding
dapper drum
already got 40k ultra tokens saved up for that special recruit chest
warped stag
I would save for a future arc, if the leaked officers are anything to go by.
winged tulip
I'm not spending ultra shards till they add borg officers to the 'normal' ultra pack. The specials don't have the full unlock chance, and they're not good enough to be worth missing that..
abstract gate
@void bone you will need to complete that station build and then it will register you have already achieved ops 23 and complete the event
void bone
Im completed 24 and it didnt register
abstract gate
Try a quick build it did it for me when i completed just a standard base upgrade,
cursive sonnet
Do we think there’ll be a repeat of ‘no solo milestones in lat rush’ again today? No uncommons at all was very disappointing last Monday
vast quail
Solo milestones were moved to the master surveyor
cursive sonnet
Yes, and gave nothing like the rewards the solo lat rush does
ebon galleon
Check #⚡-mod-announcements . They indicated that this week we will have lat solo next to master surveyor
So 2 solo’s to complete 🙂
cursive sonnet
Ah yes, thanks I’d forgotten that 😁
ebon galleon
😊👍
crisp fable
The Missions: Person of Interest & A Long Way Home Pt 1... Are these missions "NEW" new? I know that in the event store they are labelled Outlaw Ii Side Missions, but the names sound crazy familiar like they are repeats. Are my wires just crossed?
flint veldt
«The Trouble with Tribbles»
solar abyss
What's the deal with this "Apex Outlaw" event? Is it PVE? PVP? Mining? Anyone know?
abstract gate
All we know it’s an alliance milestone event
Like COW is. Whether it’s pvp pve mining or whatever, we’ll know in 31 minutes
solar abyss
Thank-you!
abstract gate
My guess is it isn't "like" CoW...it just IS CoW with different rewards
solar abyss
LoL that would be typical.
abstract gate
I have no faith in scopely to innovate when the option to just reskin existing content is right there...innovation costs $'s, reskins make $'s
flint osprey
To be fair, the new outlaw research tree and the new stella mechanic did take a fair amount of innovation. Credit should go where credit is due
south arrow
And more data mining just what every single plays has been asking for 🤣
analog yarrow
No ALB?
abstract gate
Just the one day!
south arrow
So even one day sucks also crap rewards
odd whale
the 3 days apex outlaw is the ALB
cursive sonnet
So looks like each of our players can contribute 100 points to the alliance today, we can’t average 10k points a day (no alliance on our server has more than about 75 players) so how are we going to be able to complete this?
patent pulsar
So we earn points by getting Outlaw Event Trophies, but the events don't give us any..
icy panther
odd whale
They did say this is the warm up, so we start getting more tomorrow?
patent pulsar
The event is only 3 days. I hope they turn their brains on soon.
outer ore
Has anyone tiered up Botany Bay? Is it providing points towards Apex Spy? The event states upgrading provides points, but there is no amount identified.
knotty birch
So why do we not get Apex research medals to complete stuff like Chop Shop and other things that require them?
odd whale
Apparently it says no point for tiering, only for spending plutonium and build bb
royal vigil
Ya why no points for teiring???
abstract gate
@cursive sonnet different days give different points. In Total a player can get 1k points. Clearly detailed in in-game news
royal vigil
That's horrible it says building/upgrading... Tiering is part of upgrading is it not???
knotty birch
<@&509691205798592532> how do we get Apex research medals? The graphic for the alliance event shows them but there are none that can be earned as prizes?
abstract gate
@knotty birch alliance store
shrewd totem
Alliance store
abstract gate
You will need 30 people to complete all three events to finish the AMS
dense lantern
I thought there were going to be two solo milestone events, to make up for last week? I only have master surveyor and LB events for mining.
meager galleon
The solo Lat rush milestone isn’t in the folder this time
odd whale
Well cause....scopely~
meager galleon
It is there though
dense lantern
Nevermind, i see it, thanks
tight holly
@abstract gate could you screen shot the bit about max 1,000 points per player please - I can't find
abstract gate
Day 1 data mining is 5 tokens
Day 2 hostiles is 15 tokens
Day 3 armadas is 30 tokens
Aka 50 tokens aka 1000 points
Or event trophies they call them
tight holly
Thanks
meager galleon
This is a little confusing and convoluted - complete the solo mile stones then goto your Alliance store and see ->
knotty birch
@abstract gate @shrewd totem thanks - see it now. Finding where stuff is these days is like playing where’s Waldo
meager galleon
Exchange those to get credit in the Alliance portion
odd whale
Hmmm it seems the amount of medals for exchange are different. Is it based on ops level? I'm 31 and each chest gives only 43
knotty birch
👍
hazy storm
@twilit imp data nodes are broken or causing folks to attack other half way across the system.
Scopely has shit all frack up.
abstract gate
You can finish the event within half an hour, just wait a couple of hours
meager galleon
Ignore me earlier 🙂
full charm
does anyone know the cooldown on that purchase?
velvet panther
No cooldown on the "Apex | Research Medals" purchase. At Ops 24 it's only 20 medals per chest.
full charm
no cooldown, that's awesome. thanks!
nova valley
so there's a couple of assumption. first, let's ASSUME that every player on your team is 27+. cause the rate of trophy acquisition is higher for 27+
so on day 1, a player can get 5. on day 2, he can get 15. on day 3 he can get 30.
so that's a total of 50 that one player CAN obtain.
each trophy is worth 20 points. so that one player can be responsible for 1000 points of the AMS.
so you'd only need 30 players of 27+ doing 100% participation, and you can max the ALB
NOW, that being said. i don't think anyone could finish in one day. the rate of trophy acquisition increases for each of the 3 days.
it's more of aCoW type event.
if you have more than 30 actives, that's a faster completion. if you have players under ops 27, that's a slower rate. but again. this event is EASILY completable.
pin it.
young pilot
@patent pulsar Scopley just fixed the trophy type in the alliance event (use to say Outlaw Event Trophy):
delicate estuary
nova sierra
small data nodes still suck, don't care what anyone says
young pilot
Yes, yes they do. Not sure on the design intent on that. There is nothing to gain from any aspect of it other than frustrated players.
inner ginkgo
Just turned my 5 trophies and didn’t get any apex research medals. Maybe hold onto them for a bit hopefully they get back to me.
novel hollow
if you don't care what anyone says then do they care for what you say?
jaunty sonnet
<@&509691205798592532> is there a cool down on the apex medals in the alliance store? If I buy a pack today will it be three days before I can get more?
barren night
No there isn’t
jaunty sonnet
Ta
torpid light
Shame you can’t see member participation for the alliance outlaw event.
inner ginkgo
Got my research medals now, thanks tech support. 😆
rugged zenith
Please for the love of everyone increase the size of the data nodes. This event is truly awful.
urban fjord
Would anyone be able to tell me how much battles are left to give out before the event ends this week,currently 190k need 256k
urban fjord
Ok no worries just hope I can get enough to finish it by Sunday
nova valley
but today alone they're awarding 8k, and there's 7 event days left... and this is one of the LOWEST paying days we've had since it started.
so i think you'll be fine.
if it makes you feel any better, i'm at 204k, and i've only missed one day. so i'm right there with ya. but i ain't sweating it.
urban fjord
👍👍
full charm
214k is perfect attendence right now.
echo dune
Swarm sunday week yesterday, I went from ops 31 to 32 and got an extra swarm Sunday 375 pointer to do on the Monday. Hence I think extra 10k points.
nova valley
oh nice.
dusk spruce
So lvl 29 vs a lvl 38 for the apex event. Same points requirement to get 5 badges. Turn in the 5 badges for apex medals though and lvl 29 gets 43 and lvl 38 gets 125. Kinda bogus
viral sail
My read of the Apex event: Scopely wants me to kick all players below level 20 and all casual players from my alliance. Given that what keeps many of us playing is the community, and that newer players are the future of the game, no amount of rewards will make me do that.
shrewd totem
It is actually opposite
They want you to recruit more people and your current alliance mates to get stronger
viral sail
People below level 20 cannot contribute to the event
shrewd totem
Why?
viral sail
It says in the news panel
granite zenith
🤷♂️
alliances change as they grow... you either change with them, or you get left behind
nova valley
this event is not designed for <20 that's true.
but not many folks SHOULD be <20. you can be ops 20 in 30 days from level 1 now. so it shoudln't be toooooo difficult.
it does appear that apex medals are scaled in the alliance store. still investigating. however, it also appears SO ARE the solo milestones in which you EARN the trophies so there's your thing @dusk spruce
viral sail
@granite zenith I have 71 players in my alliance. Of those,
- about 40-45 play every day and compete in events.
- 3 are below level 20 and cannot contribute.
- 6 are inactive
- the rest are casual players who play on weekends or as their schedule allows
shrewd totem
You only need 30 actives to finish alliance event
nova valley
Ops 36.
granite zenith
if you have 45 players you are golden...
viral sail
Are you sure about the math there?
granite zenith
see DJ's pinned math
shrewd totem
And for those who cant do it right now,tell them to get stronger for the future ones
novel hollow
Same as Ops 30 @nova valley
granite zenith
well pinned in the other room
plush rivet
Odd, but where is the Apex Outlaw event posted at here?
shrewd totem
Scroll down
nova valley
trophies? or actual points? cause i was told (awaiting a screenshot) that an ops 24 has to only score 75k points.
shrewd totem
You mean in this discord?@plush rivet
nova valley
@plush rivet you're literally on the article. scroll down and continue reading.
granite zenith
novel hollow
nova valley
@novel hollow you're ops 30 right?
novel hollow
yes sir
nova valley
ok, marking that down. thank you. looking for banding.
any level 26 here?
and a 27.
maybe that's the break
plush rivet
@nova valley im trying to post it to my discord its why I am looking for the announcement here
viral sail
@nova valley @granite zenith OK, so the number of trophies per day increases. Are you sure? I must have missed that if it was in the description
nova valley
i'm not aware that it's here @plush rivet
yes, 100% sure. it's in the news center @viral sail
shrewd totem
@viral sail READ THE NEWS
nova valley
novel hollow
Caps lol 😂
viral sail
Thanks!
shrewd totem
Caps lol 😂
@novel hollow
nova valley
looking for volunteers to show me apex spy at ops 26 and 27 please! and heck, 28 and 29 too while we're at it
abstract gate
@plush rivet put your finger in the circle and move it in the direction of the arrow. You can do it.
nova valley
AND 39 ,and 40 too.
novel hollow
cosmic lintel
Ops 29
granite zenith
viral sail
I stand corrected 🙂
fading hedge
pale cobalt
Unless the amount of trophy's goes up for tomorrow's event no alliance on my server can complete it 30k in 3 days means we need an alliance of 100 members all completing their solo events biggest alliance on my server can only have 74 members max
keen ledge
@pale cobalt according to the in game announcement, the number of trophies goes up each day
pale cobalt
I missed that part 😂 thanks 👍
thin bloom
Is it intended that at lvl 21 you do not get the 100 eclipse heist tokens from the apex outlaw alliance event? It's listed in the description, but not at the 30k points rewards.
granite zenith
@pale cobalt Reading IS Fundamental
nova valley
also, pinned messages.
restive inlet
Did someone know, if I go to ops 32 if the chest with the apew research medals do a upgrade?
nova valley
@restive inlet i'm trying to solve that now. ops 30 i think is the closest cutof. i do not think you'll get a change at 32. but i can't confirm it yet
BUT i'd love it if you can help me. send me a screenshot of your current trophy redemption, AND your solo milestones for apex spy please.
restive inlet
Really sad, at 31 only 43 medals at 32 100 for 5 token
nova valley
AH, ok, so you HAVE confirmed another break.
please show me your apex spy milestones.
nova valley
not EVERYONE needs 370k data. but the breakpoints don't match.
the data scales also, but not WITH the trophies.
lol
abstract gate
They’re never gonna fix the data node size are they?
abstract gate
I don’t... I almost never have a solid hour and a half plus to just sit foxes to the screen resetting nodes every 12 seconds...
granite zenith
now i have a free day
restive inlet
@nova valley so Nobody knows if the medals will change if we go to a higher ops?
abstract gate
And I sure as hell don’t have it on a Monday
nova valley
well.... they would. but we don't know what the breakpoints are. so i can't promise they stay the same at 32.
abstract gate
At least give me ten or fifteen minutes of mining time between resets. Time to look up, deal with the RL stuff that doesn’t magically go away because I need to mine
restive inlet
@granite zenith yes i know, but often the things will be the same if you level up during a event
Like the battle pass etc.
granite zenith
and break points are usually on the evens... so id say a 80/20 chance it will go up
event rewards are locked at the beginning of an event yes... but that is a store, not a reward
granite zenith
that is truely the only way to know
warped stag
Ops 38
ebon galleon
Ops41
granite zenith
@nova valley 👆
nova valley
@restive inlet I’m willing to bet that it would increase if you go up in ops now. Stores have always scaled in real time. Events do not.
ebon galleon
Ops41 apex spy
nova valley
This is not an event conversion. It’s a store. I bet it scales.
In real time that is.
So @restive inlet don’t shoot me if I’m wrong. But I bet if you upgrade ops it will reset to the higher conversion in real time.
restive inlet
Let’s try 😄
shrewd totem
Yeah it might
nova valley
I would consider this scopelys new race to ops. An incentive to upgrade ops to get better payouts.
It’s subtle. But that’s what I’m gonna take from it.
restive inlet
Yes you are right, but a race to ops event was a long time ago and not seen since months
shrewd totem
Low levels(lvl20-23,lvl24-27) still get it
nova valley
yeah thats what i'm saying. in a subtle form, this is the "encouraging nod" scopel is giving to players to upgrade their ops to get a higher medal payout.
restive inlet
Did level up during event?
nova valley
heres what we have so far:
Short list. (modified)
20 - ?? -8
26 - ?? -20
?? - 31 -43
32-35 -100
36-39 - 125
40-45 - 150
46+. - 175
The 46+ is confirmed up to 47, not sure if it changes again after that.
can we get some upper 20's to help us narrow this down?
viral sail
@restive inlet No. I was just showing so you could compare with what you have
celest cloud
Ops 25 = 20 per chest
cursive solar
Anyone get that ‘frame’ from the outlaw elite research event yet?? I got a comp chest today but no frame??
wraith notch
I just got it
nova valley
narrowing it down.
cursive solar
I’ve been given everything BUT the frame and I even sent screenshots showing I had the 70 points before event ended! Getting really fed up with Scopely bs!
nova valley
short list. (modified)
20 - ?? -8
25-27 -20
28 - 31 -43
32-35 -100
36-39 - 125
40-45 - 150
46+. - 175
The 46+ is confirmed up to 47, not sure if it changes again after that.
looking for players 24 and under to finsih the chart. thank you!
@fading hedge can you show me your trophy to medal conversion in your alliance store please?
charred shadow
@gaunt yacht I’m told that there was no frame in the comp chest
indigo crystal
@gaunt yacht where is this months jelly event?????
shrewd totem
@charred shadow there is if you are qualified
charred shadow
I only started when the event started, got my 70 done
This is someone else in my alliance who started before. Back reading it looks like there are others
shrewd totem
If he did 70 or higher research before event ended or if he was lvl27 and did 68 research,should have gotten it
charred shadow
He did the 70 and is level 29
shrewd totem
If he didnt get the compensation and thinks he should have,then need to contact support
charred shadow
He got everything but the frame
cursive solar
I for sure did 70 points before event ended, and still no FRAME! What a joke.
cursive solar
You mean support through the game?
shrewd totem
Yeah
cursive solar
Ya, it was MS3
charred shadow
Anyways, doesn’t appear to be a one off
shrewd totem
CS can check it and give you proper rewards. Just send a ticket about the issue
charred shadow
So it looks like they gave the wrong comp to some people
cursive solar
I even sent screenshots through support showing I had 70 points like a week and a half ago
I’ll resend everything I guess
olive kite
How do we finish this new event? At today's rate, we'll need 100 players to complete every day. This is impossible in all the ways.
Scopely cannot do basic math.
cursive solar
Scopely apparently can’t do anything right.
nova valley
uh oh? am i the troll? LOL
excellent @restive inlet
@olive kite if you blocked me then thats your own loss. i'm a fountain of knowledge encased in a protective sarcastic cocoon.
HAHAHAHA ahhhh yes. she did block me.
super delicious hahahahaha
merry fulcrum
@restive inlet I've still got 43
olive kite
It's asking for trophies, not medals. You still got 5 trophies.
nova valley
someone copy and paste this for her.... 🤣
restive inlet
@merry fulcrum I leveled up ops from 31 to 32
nova valley
so there's a couple of assumption. first, let's ASSUME that every player on your team is 27+. cause the rate of trophy acquisition is higher for 27+
so on day 1, a player can get 5. on day 2, he can get 15. on day 3 he can get 30.
so that's a total of 50 that one player CAN obtain.
each trophy is worth 20 points. so that one player can be responsible for 1000 points of the AMS.
so you'd only need 30 players of 27+ doing 100% participation, and you can max the ALB
NOW, that being said. i don't think anyone could finish in one day. the rate of trophy acquisition increases for each of the 3 days.
it's more of aCoW type event.
if you have more than 30 actives, that's a faster completion. if you have players under ops 27, that's a slower rate. but again. this event is EASILY completable.
merry fulcrum
...... Why is there such a major difference between ops 31 and 32?
restive inlet
Don’t know that’s because i speed up to ops 32 😉
granite zenith
Spinach?
merry fulcrum
I just literally hit ops 31 yesterday lol
nova valley
i'm going with the whole scopely is encouraging an ops upgrade @merry fulcrum lol
@granite zenith please copy and paste my message on the math and tag @olive kite in it.
make sure she knows it's my math. apparently i'm a troll who cannot do math. LMAO
granite zenith
@olive kite
DJ says his math is goooood
so there's a couple of assumption. first, let's ASSUME that every player on your team is 27+. cause the rate of trophy acquisition is higher for 27+
so on day 1, a player can get 5. on day 2, he can get 15. on day 3 he can get 30.
so that's a total of 50 that one player CAN obtain.
each trophy is worth 20 points. so that one player can be responsible for 1000 points of the AMS.
so you'd only need 30 players of 27+ doing 100% participation, and you can max the ALB
NOW, that being said. i don't think anyone could finish in one day. the rate of trophy acquisition increases for each of the 3 days.
it's more of aCoW type event.
if you have more than 30 actives, that's a faster completion. if you have players under ops 27, that's a slower rate. but again. this event is EASILY completable.
sincerely and mathematically yours,
UltimatTrollz
nova valley
now sign it with my signature.....
sincerely and mathematically yours,
UltimatTrollz
granite zenith
heavy cradle
So I was watching @loud solar on this new event, and I noticed something. When he goes into the alliance store, he can get 125 apex research tokens for 5 rogue credits. When I go into the same store area I can get.... [drumroll please]... 43.
nova valley
yeup yeup.
Here is the list of ops levels and the number of apex medals you can redeem in exchnage for 5 trophies during this 72 hour apex event. This is a real time store, so if you upgrade ops, you WILL get the higher payout if you have waited to spend your trophies. 31 and ready for 32? push the ops button and get 100 instead of 43. IT'S TRUE IT'S TRUE
20- ?? -8
25-27 -20
28 - 31 -43
32-35 -100
36-39 - 125
40-45 - 150
46+. - 175
The 46+ is confirmed up to 47, not sure if it changes again after that.
looking for players 24 and under to finsih the chart. thank you!
@heavy cradle
loud solar
Thanks DJ!
warm cobalt
Anybody else feel hoodwinked by the requirements increas for the second round of "A different breed"?
I built out a spreadsheet for how I was going to be able to complete both rounds and get 100 bps, but then the second round the requirements more than doubled
heavy cradle
thanks DJ, good data to know. It seems like to me at freshly minted 28 it's better to get that sweet sweet uncommon gas than the research tokens this round.
I'd need to spend 1 to just get a single round of the one apex upgrade, and while more warp is awesome, I just don't see the value in doing that vs the uncommons that I'm always begging for.
nova valley
that's what's awesome about it! you get to chooooooooooooose!
thin bloom
@nova valley Ops 21 also gets 8
torpid light
Is there any reason why you would choose to get resources instead of the apex research medals?
heavy cradle
@torpid light - the only apex research I can do is the increased warp speed until ops 31. at 43 research credits per token, not sure it's worth it.
vs getting more uncommons than I normally see in some weeks in the refinery.
torpid light
Ok thanks. Not sure of the value of 43 of these but guessing I will need much more to have any use maybe.
heavy cradle
need 75 for the first tier of the research in the outlaw tree.
granite zenith
Here is the thing to remember... they plan on making this a monthly event... so get what you need at your level
torpid light
Ok, just seen that. Should look first lol. But extra warp speed is quite attract so may still go ahead.
And if I can earn 50 tokens over the 3 days, then I then get 430 apex tokens which seems fairly decent,
heavy cradle
430 apex tokens should get you the first several levels. I'm just looking at the 530 uncommon gas I need for my MayFlower next tier and going "anyone got any more of that ... gas?"
torpid light
Lol, the resources is tempting but I like the shiny new things.
heavy cradle
you can get to tier 3, with 140 left over for next time to get tier 4.
torpid light
Cool, cheers for that.
heavy cradle
75, 95, 120, 150 for the first 4 tiers
glossy narwhal
@nova valley I assume that the amount of uncommon you get for your trophies goes up with ops level as well? Or just the apex tokens?
shrewd totem
Yes it should
heavy cradle
@nova valley - being told 20 points per pack at ops 24.
(asking friends)
@glossy narwhal - I get 28 uncommon and 4 rare at ops 28 in the packs.
glossy narwhal
It's 30 uncommon, 5 rare at ops 31
abstract gate
Sorry. One more question. I’m sitting at 193k battle pass points. Not sure if I’m going to have time to finish today’s event. Think there’s going to be enough points in the rest of the battle pass for me to finish it?
heavy cradle
there should be Deen
abstract gate
Cool ty
heavy cradle
I'm at 206k, although I've skipped the 6k from the pvp events ( I didn't want to relocate to be able to get my ships to the pvp areas). Not including today there are 6 events left for points. Only master surveyor has been 8k, swarm is 15k (for example).
some of them have been over 20k.