many people on my server love this event cuz they see it as a chance to actually beat the high level players. it's possible if they aren't smart with their crews.
#🏆-event-chat
hollow fossil
the last event i saw the warning go out over global for the pirate allaince to leave the systems before the big whales got there with their iss jellys, cause they spent HOURS just sitting there killing everything and they were not in the 3 specified ships.
at least this time i did see them in the correct ships, so something sunk in
carmine lily
exactly. they just need to be taught a lesson. fighting back works.
drowsy viper
In our server the top #1 is a nice guy that hates bullies, so no chance something like this would happen without him jumping in and killing the other whales
hollow fossil
lucky
drowsy viper
Yes. But he’s getting bored with the game, so I’m afraid if he leaves, the other whales that are dickish, will go rampant
hollow fossil
Yea, i can understand the bored part. But that IS one of the side effects of blowing though the grind
drowsy viper
Yep
carmine lily
we gathered together multiple alliances to deal with bullies. had over half the server involved in a war at one point.
hollow fossil
funny thing is for a server wide pvp event a couple of server side limiters to let everyone enjoy it a bit without the hairpulling would do wonders.
and would only be the specified systems and only for the dursation of the event. kinda like dueling in some respects
and lore wise would be like how they did that one wargames episode in TNG
carmine lily
i think the event as it is is quite fun. the one time they opened it up to any ship anywhere it was an absolute disaster and a large majority of the server just chose to pull everything in and take the day off. keeping it limited to certain ships in certain systems is the most balance this game has ever had.
unique parrot
I think it’s fun too... when I’m finished I try to help others by just parking event ships there. That way those who don’t start early still have some targets
rocky hill
Any word on whether thr rare exhancge armadas will swap back to uncommons at some point?
inland hamlet
Yes when you kill then
50 50 chance
Pain is like you say lower one's been killed and flipped, so whales moved higher only unc left ones they can't do.
abstract gate
Everyone has flipped to rares on my server, so no one can do any. #greatmechanic
trail citrus
Hate hate hate the PvP event. The rules are ridiculous, nobody shows up except if I go I inevitably cant hit a level 20 since I am 25 but a level 35 jellyfish can attack me !?!? Wtf? We should have more choice of opponents, more incentive for players, and not have to lose station shield since it is NOT the same
jaunty sonnet
Quick question for the roguish ways event. Does any research in the rogue section count towards this?
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pseudo rover
For the regular one yes, for the elite only specific ones.
tall bluff
Why does the Outlaw Research Special package show Alpha Particles in the picture yet none are in the package. Took some ss of Both Research packages to prove the misleading and debatable offers.
pseudo rover
Same things occur elsewhere in the game. I suppose it's just re-use of assets and making them future proof.
For example: Khan is on the recruit image for the Augment Recruit yet he's not in that pack either.
jaunty sonnet
@pseudo rover I have completed three but one hasn’t registered for it.
@tall bluff It is called click baiting and is a well used thing in media mate
Sucks like hell though
pseudo rover
@jaunty sonnet I'd raise that with CS to see if you can get that rectified. Event holds no special mention so they should all be accounted for.
jaunty sonnet
Okay. Thanks mate
pseudo rover
Sure thing man 🖖
scarlet bloom
Okay the PVP event is a joke. I have a Talla that has a max range of 19 and need a range of 22 to reach the nearest site. I have a maxed-out Phindra with a max range of 16 and my other two Phindras fare no better.
pseudo rover
Use Scotty or try to locate your base a bit closer ^^
scarlet bloom
pseudo rover
Or upgrade ^^
pseudo rover
Cadet Scotty is another +5 warp, is that sufficient for one of them?
robust vapor
You're not as close as you can get..
inland hamlet
T3 phin with scotty plus 4 is enough
robust vapor
The actual range required to get there looks to be only warp 16, you're in a higher warp system, this us why you need more range. Move into one of the nearby neutral systems @scarlet bloom
covert lark
Why does Swarm event have ultra recruit tokens instead of Khan shards?
I thought they werent going to be changed
warm cove
Yeah I was wondering that as well. I was so excited to finally get Khan today
granite zenith
read the announcements
cursive sonnet
Ok so you announced ultra tokens for the swarms if it was for the battle pass, but why can’t you do that during the week and not swarm Sunday? I’m sure you ran a separate hostile hunt on swarm Sunday in arc 1, you’ve denied me khan shards yet again😡
warm cove
That is so fked up.
shrewd totem
#readingishard
sudden ledge
Yet another way to take something away from us. 500 ultra tokens instead of the shards is complete crap
devout holly
@twilit imp if you are going to keep putting these PVP events into the game why can you not put the Jelly Fish BP's back in the game too so those of us that wasn't around when it came out can have a chance?
shrewd totem
You can still kill Jellies with Talla or even with a phindra
halcyon patio
You can still kill Jellies with Talla or even with a phindra
@shrewd totem not if you are ftp
shrewd totem
Depends on your luck
shrewd totem
How strong is your Krell or Mirek?
mossy bramble
Though I still agree PvP event is pointless and a drag
devout holly
my 60k talla isn't taking out 99k to 120k jellies
mossy bramble
Seems there is a select few who like it though
halcyon patio
but not the one from a lvl40 player
mossy bramble
Where are rev deuce and DJ to raise hell about khan shards though?
halcyon patio
better to use phundra on tallas
shrewd totem
my 60k talla isn't taking out 99k to 120k jellies
@devout holly it CAN
Well you can kill 5-10 Jellies per trip with that crew so not sure if hunting Tallas with Phindra will be more beneficial
halcyon patio
jelly can't catch it 🙂
shrewd totem
Yeah but still less points per trip
halcyon patio
5-10 120k jelly? then I'm doing something realy wrong
shrewd totem
Show me your crew and below deck stats
devout holly
i dont have marcus
halcyon patio
ships out for swarm now
shrewd totem
@devout holly then use Yuki
If you need help with crew,just post in here and a lot of people can help you@halcyon patio
devout holly
i am using yuki, krell and mirek
shrewd totem
If you have decent below decks and they are decent rank then killing 100-120k Jellies with 60k Talla is possible
halcyon patio
will post stats later but yuki can't beat a max spock (talla->jelly)
sudden ledge
@twilit imp can we have a real survey on who wants 500 ultra tokens or the khan shards? This is one of the lamest moves yet.
shrewd totem
Not everyone uses Spock on their Jellies. There are always people with some weird combos
halcyon patio
then might be doable. I was talking about kirk/max spock
shrewd totem
Marcus or Yuki is extra. Main power comes from Mirek and Krell so wont be a big deal if opponent has Max Spock
@halcyon patio use Marcus as cap+Krell+Mirek since you are worried about Yuki not working against Max Spock and increase your below deck DEFENSE stats as much as you can
jaunty sonnet
Do you get points in lat rush for stealing latinum from the ship in space or just from the ship on the mine?
halcyon patio
I did event really quick with phindra. some lower players come with talla and vemet. easy 6 points for me. don't like talla, too slow and many big jelly around
torn timber
So can we talk about how Outlaw Swarm Sunday gives fewer rewards than just ONE of the faction hunt events at 5x’s the effort of doing all 3 faction hunt?
jaunty sonnet
@halcyon patio or use Bones as captain
shrewd totem
Yeah that would also work^
Especially if your Mirek/Krell is low
Do you get points in lat rush for stealing latinum from the ship in space or just from the ship on the mine?
@jaunty sonnet both,doesnt matter as long as you steal it
jaunty sonnet
60k Talla + Yuki, Krell and Mirek still beats a 120k Jelly even with decent Kirk and Spock combo
Noice
abstract gate
Jesus...are we still having this conversation? You've had since borg finalé to figure it out...learn faster or just take your 45 losses and gtfo
halcyon patio
@abstract gate actualy I did event in 3 runs with phindra 🙂
buoyant cloud
Yesterday had a nice event, did two rounds with talla+phindra and my talla took out 3 jellies, although only one had high health 😜
abstract gate
Is there any way for a level 25 complete the different Breed mission to get the Vi dar? Or is it totally Impossible?
💰 💰 💰 💰
timber vault
Good luck trying that today. Everyone seems to be using the ISS jelly today. I went up against a 117k damaged one with my 124k jelly and was killed. How is that fair.
These events are so we can use our weaker ships that never get used day to day.
Our for lower players just entering the PvP world.
abstract gate
The event is a joke...if it was really pvp you'd only score for wins...not that real pvp exists in this game
knotty birch
@abstract gate some people love to ignore advice and just argue it’s all still impossible!
peak saffron
Why did they take khan away as a reward for threat from beyond? 😡
abstract gate
Is there any way for a level 25 complete the different Breed mission to get the Vi dar? Or is it totally Impossible?
@abstract gate @twilit imp
You won't get an answer and quoting yourself and tagging panic is just gonna annoy the mods
Is it possible? Technically, yes. If you have the rss and speed ups to finish it in time or the cash to throw away it's possible...if you don't it's not.
Chances are if you're asking the question then you have neither the rss or the cash (or the will to waste it).
torpid light
Any chance of a buy jellyfish option for higher levels?
The baby jellyfish, not the L39 one
distant smelt
Scopely is currently accepting deeds to property and first born children......lol.
earnest citrus
@torpid light Not at the moment, no
humble siren
Can scopely include a bonus refinery in tomorrow's ferengi Monday? Would be great 😬
mossy saddle
Is there any way for a level 25 complete the different Breed mission to get the Vi dar? Or is it totally Impossible?
@abstract gate
We've been asking this question for a few days and Panic has remained silent on it. I've even asked CS directly and got a "we'll pass the feedback on!" and the conversation ended on me.
One thing I'm doing is only aiming for milestone one as the event will restart when this one finishes. Gives me 2-3 days to start recouping my rss and speedup.
hollow fossil
@mossy saddle Keep in mind, if your ops 26, the first mile stone will be 50 BP's
so leveling ops to 26 and sitting is also a good idea to consider
mossy saddle
Mine was 50BP at 25, I'm sure. I upped to 26 to complete the first milestone.
mossy saddle
Which hopefully means I'll achieve the ship. If not, I have a LOT of research to be doing to fix the rush.
hollow fossil
lol, you an me both
mossy saddle
Just wish someone would acknowledge the frustration. They were all over it when people felt they deserved compensation for making a decision to do research KNOWING the battle pass and new events were coming 😂
abstract gate
@abstract gate
We've been asking this question for a few days and Panic has remained silent on it. I've even asked CS directly and got a "we'll pass the feedback on!" and the conversation ended on me.
One thing I'm doing is only aiming for milestone one as the event will restart when this one finishes. Gives me 2-3 days to start recouping my rss and speedup.
@mossy saddle yeahhh same thing... I was getting exvited and started to upgrade all the station hoping that some of the upgrades and speed Ups would get me the vidar ... But only now i did the math and it does not add up. I have now 1970 with all the upgrades that i did and it requires Over 5400 for HALF of the ship ...
drowsy viper
14 win and 6 losses, with lvl 35 Talla and Krell and Mirek T1. I couldn’t win with full health maxed jellies, but I could win against half life or not maxed. Finally the event is a bit fun!
dapper drum
even tier 1 the tall should be hitting 30k damage with those 2
and if you have marcus as well it will help with those using kirk/spock combo
need to get as much defense as you can into the talla little 4 slots
or is it 5?
no has to be 4 jelly is 5
heavy cradle
@timber vault
As a note - the baby jelly is considered an alliance ship for the purposes of crew abilites. Can use it to your advantage...
safe orbit
@mossy saddle yeahhh same thing... I was getting exvited and started to upgrade all the station hoping that some of the upgrades and speed Ups would get me the vidar ... But only now i did the math and it does not add up. I have now 1970 with all the upgrades that i did and it requires Over 5400 for HALF of the ship ...
@abstract gate yeah same here. I sent a message to in game support pointing out that it was impossible and they said they will past the feedback on. Would be nice to get some sort of acknowledgement that this is an issue and will be sorted before the next event so that we can achieve it.
vital hinge
Does anyone know if you can complete the rogue ways elite event at level 27? I'm close to finishing but I'm starting to get locked out of research because it's requiring level 28 buildings.
karmic valve
I looked it up. you cannot reach 70 in the event at ops 27, only 68 points. You have to be ops 28 to complete all 70 pts unless you go the prime route.
According to info in LCARS at least.
@vital hinge
vital hinge
@karmic valve wow... that is such a terrible move...
lapis harbor
This sucks no shards for Sunday swarms and a bunch of aug bp for ships I don’t even want instead of officer shards
wanton cloud
@vital hinge there is a way, level up to 28 😛
karmic valve
Yea. Even more speed ups and resources plus upping my swarms reqs.
wanton cloud
didn't say it was a good option
karmic valve
Indeed.
wanton cloud
you can counter the jellyfish easily with the right crew on the talla @silent kayak
that was in the #👾-bug-reporting channel, someone thought it's a bug
crew is everything
eager hill
"consider slitting wrists" 🤣🤣 you are taking it too seriously buddy
random tide
"Flaunting the money they spend" you mean the ship you could get for like 40 usd? Guess I'm a baller 🤣
If spending 40 for a ship is alot. Nobody tell him how much any of the epics cost
random tide
Its available on my level 14 alt. But I never look at the price. But yeah, its something cheap
rain badger
I thought removing Khan from the Swarm rewards was cancelled after the Shitstrom, now he is gone, what happened?
pseudo rover
@rain badger Just for this arc. See latest #⭐-official-announcements
rain badger
are the rewards the same as were supposed generally? seriuosly 250 ultra tokens for the final level of heroic?
450 in total for heroic for killing 263 L32 swarms?
pure cargo
I have been upgrading my station like mad but don't get points to get the vidar blueprints prizes, so frustrated
oblique mica
Any guidance on whether to pick the top or bottom outlaw research branch when doing Anarchist Weaponary?
scenic cloud
@oblique mica I see the experts do top first.
floral trail
Top first, i.e. weapons. Only because it lets you research crystal efficiency which is the bane of many
Can someone explain what the benefit is in leveling then scrapping the Stella. I can't see any benefit at all, or maybe I am missing something?
hollow arch
u ll scrap the stella to get stella particule which is required to launch higher research
the higher the level of the stella the higher stella particule u get.
floral trail
Ah ok, so its only for the advanced research tree?
eager hill
though you will need to max and scrap stella 292 times to max all those researches 🤣
hollow arch
but you will have to do a lot of research before you hit this requirement of stella particules
and get you r credit card burning
floral trail
I am at the point where I need 200 particles so I would need to build and scrap it. Interesting still looking at lcars I only need to farm uranium from the rogue store
hollow arch
@floral trail yes higher level and or deeper in the tree
floral trail
Seems dumb to me having to scrap it every so often. I could do with a second just to scrap one while I use the other
raw oasis
@twilit imp anything being done about how it’s impossible to complete any milestone on the “a different breed” event for lvl 24-25’s? I want a vidar and have been waiting for over 4 months and it’s not possible to complete the event and receive any BPs. Need this fixed for us to access and complete missions in borg space please!
raw oasis
Or if anyone can answer that for me seeing as how no one ever responds...
heavy cradle
It seems like there are tuning issues on several of the new events @floral trail . I've personally run into the issue at 27 that there are exactly 70 items you can do in the outlaw tree. I had a couple done prior to event start (I couldn't have known that there would only be 70 possible for me).
Luckily support has said they are going to credit folks. Hopefully there will be some love on that different breed event, too.
abstract gate
Problem is that they don't just comp missed rewards, they fully comp the events so not only do the eager beavers get compensation for being impatient they also get a shot at up to double the rewards us sensible, patient people don't.
shrewd totem
That isnt true....
Can you read that? MISSED
People wont get stuff if they already completed event. They will compensate those who missed rewards due to doing research early
#readingishard
abstract gate
When they comped the 4pt event people were saying they got the comp chest even though they maxed the event...yeah reading is hard 🖕
neon parcel
abstract gate
Yep..reading everything is hard...apparently
delicate estuary
You know, at first read I was like "So Sunday will still be normal, since for every arc before this they had standard Swarm+points even in Sunday, as well as after their midweek Ultra rewards", but this really feels like Scopely is trying to retrain us to just accept Ultra as the normal Sunday rewards.
So instead of keeping the promise to keep the rewards the same, they drop 3 weeks of the lesser rewards
abstract gate
@delicate estuary and the same now for lat Monday
solemn berry
@raw oasis @twilit imp I just got "A Different Breed" at 23, and the event only lasts a single day for me. No way to complete without spending a ton of cash. Probably intended to be that way.
delicate estuary
@abstract gate Ouch. Yeah that's a significant chunk less rewarding
simple spear
Thanks for removing the solo milestones with uncommon for lat rush. Definitely a step in the right direction 🙄
abstract gate
Wtf? Wheres my sme?
simple spear
Gone. No ore for you. Just tritanium
unique lodge
Garbage
floral trail
Well that sucks, I am already sat on 200m Tri that I cant use due to lack of uncommons
unique lodge
Must have been too much progression lately, taking away the refined mats
delicate estuary
@unique lodge "You've gotten too used to excellent rewards, we've given you techs to help decrease refinery needs, so we're going to nerf payouts way harder"
floral trail
If only the refinery wasn't so garbage
unique lodge
“Given”. For only $300USD you can get even more common refined mats...
delicate estuary
I meant the Outlaw techs, not the primes
abstract gate
I have over 1bn trit ffs...lat Mondays are my parsteel bank
unique lodge
Oh yeah those...
vague narwhal
Trit only for mining event... Thanks Scopely 😒😒
unique lodge
Where’s the reds, what’s the deal?
abstract gate
They've throttled the parsteel rewards this arc...only hostile hunt has it so far and that was just one day...what's up with that @twilit imp ? Why are scopely suddenly being cheap with the parsteel?
pseudo rover
@twilit abyss I really hope that's not going to be in full caps again.
twilit abyss
scopely where is our latinium rush event whith parstell reward, stop stole our reward !!!
its better ?
twilit abyss
they want our $$$
verbal lichen
Probably just a bug, hopefully we will get an update soon. Nothing to do but mine and wait, like any other Monday. 😄
unique lodge
Batman said it’s intentional
keen ledge
It is not a bug.
We have master surveyor instead of lat rush solo MS. But we have relayed feedback about the reward disparity.
abstract gate
That it's utter 🐂 💩 ?
unique lodge
Rdy to throw
abstract gate
I literally only bother with lat Monday for the parsteel
verbal lichen
Dang, wish they would inform us of these changes, especially when week after week they have been the same. Well, time to get the pitchforks.
abstract gate
@verbal lichen yeah that’s the most annoying part. Panic took the time to write a whole paragraph to inform us about swarm event rewards being nerfed, he could’ve informed us about this too
unique lodge
I don’t mind getting recruit instead of khan, I do mind missing refined materials
Officer recruit creds are ultimately more valuable, if you save them for the events
abstract gate
The uc's are nice but the parsteel is our lifeblood
verbal lichen
TBH, panic may have not even been aware of the change. I bet there is different teams doing different things, and broken lines of communication within Scopley. Just look at how well they know their player base.....
dense lantern
Ok, so anyone else had issues with pre mining G2 ore and it not counting towards the event when coming off the node?
unique lodge
I don’t blame moderators for stuff like this, sounds like they’re addressing it, that’s their job in my view, community relations
dense lantern
And also, why no lat rush solo milestone...
unique lodge
Now they just need to twist harder 😝
abstract gate
They've run mega miner parallel with ferengi mining before so it'll be interesting to see what 🐂 💩 excuse they vomit out of panic's keyboard
keen ledge
We've relayed the feedback specific to rewards.
It is not going unheard. Just unfortunately all the mod team can do.
abstract gate
Heard and ignored are not mutually exclusive
keen ledge
What they do with the feedback is not something the mods control.
But we did make sure it was shared with the team.
meager galleon
Jess dun good 😊
abstract gate
Your post on reddit was good too @meager galleon ....they straight up deleted that. Faith in scopely is at an all time low rn and it's been treading water since pre-release tbh
carmine lily
Don’t worry, we will get the solo milestones in a couple hours. Now that everyone has blown the reserves they’ve been slow mining since Saturday
meager galleon
My post had its flaws and I understand why it was taken down 🙂
Anyway
Hopefully this Arc gets better
So far the slow burn has been a little too slow. I’ve killed a handful of Eclipse traders, done zero Armadas (saving dirs for the event) and just done some research
Been super slow and not super engaging so far.
Would be cool if they could wrap a heist scenario into those missions (aka do a specific armada somehow)
crisp jasper
Why? We heard you like khan. We'll give you back khan next time, but then we'll go back to no khan. Oh, you want lat rush too? We'll give it to you next week, but then we'll take it away again. I don't understand this at all...
late schooner
Has ‘a different breed’ been discussed here yet? It’s kind of rough that to get the last 50 bps of vidar I had a week to level from 23-6 to event have an opportunity to complete it. Seems that bc it’s a lvl 25 ship it would be nice to be able to unlock it at 25
carmine lily
This new arc feels super pointless so far. I like the characters and the story, but what’s the motivation to work the faction at all? There’s no officer shards or anything worthwhile really in either the faction store or the new territory. Even the new ship is single purpose, but for what? After the arc is over what use will it be? There doesn’t seem to be any reason to grind this at all outside of the event. Poor planning.
abstract gate
So people who didn't prepare for events get compensation...we prepared for lat Monday so where's our compensation?
nova sierra
the storyline in the first set of missions was pretty good I thought, but it's been too long between that set and the next one
jaunty sonnet
What compensation and for what reason?
abstract gate
@carmine lily the recycling mechanic is the only way to advance the new research...it's dumb af tbh but apparently that's the hook
crisp jasper
I want to be compensated for all the time I have to spend here complaining! 🙂
meager galleon
Technically there is no event calendar or guarantees of events
So no compensation for nothing that was promised
crisp jasper
That's definitely one of my big complaints
winged tulip
Technically there was an event calendar for the burst research events, with times they couldn't get right
nova sierra
I want to complain about how much @crisp jasper complains about complaining
abstract gate
@jaunty sonnet idiots that blew their wad early on research got compensation so...why not compensate this, it's equally stupid
jaunty sonnet
No @abstract gate if the event hadn’t been delayed the players doing the research should get compensation but what has gone on the means compensation is due now for other reasons?
No solo lat rush - oh no!
abstract gate
Yes other reseans...of an equally stupid nature
jaunty sonnet
Which are...?
crisp jasper
Nobody needs compensation. We do need much better communication and much better event co-ordination
worthy gull
@keen ledge thx for the announcement. One question... Does this mean they intend to run Master Surveyor next week on the same day?
solid badger
Need higher yield on Cr slot machine
worthy gull
If so, can we get the event schedule?
jaunty sonnet
I didn’t need compensation for the research event I just needed my research to have counted towards the event. Should have been simple to do
keen ledge
@worthy gull - team said they will coexist next week, so sounds like both next Monday
worthy gull
Thx
Since the team already knows that... Any chance we can know what else is planned between now and then?
meager galleon
Unless you wear a tinfoil hat
keen ledge
Hey! It's a fashion statement.
worthy gull
@meager galleon i was talking about the battle pass events
keen ledge
Oh... you meant other people. 😉
meager galleon
gentle gate
Today’s lat events are 💩
worthy gull
The Dev team clearly has it scheduled, but they're hiding it from the players
meager galleon
Walt was so good in Fringe
keen ledge
He was
meager galleon
Truely one of the best characters and acting performances
jaunty sonnet
Fringe was freaking awesome
heavy cradle
walter was amazing
novel hollow
@meager galleon need revs pic for there
worthy gull
except when they get caught revealing one nugget in an announcement
keen ledge
I watched another show with him recently in which he played a bad guy
And I just couldn't accept it
jaunty sonnet
Alter-Walter was great too
heavy cradle
walternate, geesh
novel hollow
But yes then we’d lose Walt
jaunty sonnet
Shows his ability to play two different personalities interacting with each other
I prefer Alter-Walter
@heavy cradle
meager galleon
@worthy gull Literally just revealed because Jess raised it with event team who came back with that
jaunty sonnet
But back to my original question - why is someone asking for compensation for those that didn’t plan for lat rush?
worthy gull
Oh, agreed
meager galleon
Shhhh @jaunty sonnet
worthy gull
But we've asked for the schedule in the past and in the past, it's always been stated that there is no schedule
worthy gull
Now they slipped up and revealed that there is a schedule
meager galleon
There is the basis of a schedule Ofcourse but nothing we are privy to beyond what the players are as well
jaunty sonnet
Of course there was always a schedule they just didn’t want to share it
keen ledge
Of course they have a plan
heavy cradle
at least a schedule for next monday 😂
tired glade
So it’s lowered weekly events to compensate with the extra stuff we get from the arc 😂
keen ledge
No, we deny that we see it, which is true
I have always assumed they have to plan at least a few days
Or else the splash screen couldn't exist
worthy gull
Oh, I agree
But had to take Scopley at face value when they say that one doesn't exist
Esp with the number of bugs that show up 🤣
It really does feel like someone walks in at 9am and decides to release a package at 11:55am
keen ledge
I assume there are concerns about 1) last minute changes and how that would impact players and 2) what happens when people can prep for every event?
worthy gull
Right
keen ledge
I see the pros and cons to publishing something detailed, tbh.
worthy gull
They don't want to be on the hook for you know.. Actually delivering something 🤣
nova sierra
what's wrong with prepping?
worthy gull
Nothing
But Scopley is giving themselves an out.. In case that day's event isn't ready
So they queue up a diff package that is ready
nova sierra
we already get screwed on the fickleness of the refinery... at least let us plan for weekly events
keen ledge
Other players who can't prep for some reason would feel like they were at a disadvantage.
And would come here and yell at the mods.
worthy gull
And since they don't publish the calendar, we're none the wiser
heavy cradle
you mods get yelled at, regardless
keen ledge
worthy gull
If it were published like the splash screen, then no one has an excuse
And more importantly.... It saves players
From headaches like blowing all your purple recruit tokens the day before they release the brand new officer recruit daily event
Not that I'm bitter or anything....
heavy cradle
or completing a couple of outlaw research items before the event, only to learn that there are only exactly the number needed to complete it available to you?
worthy gull
Right
meager galleon
I have 41K Ultras saved up
tired glade
It just seems obvious the reasons to reduce them is to limit the weekly rss given out. It’s not like the Monday event and Sunday event have only been around a short period of time.
meager galleon
Expecting an officer but I think I’m gonna get disappointed
heavy cradle
I can see why to not do it, it allows the developers flexibility. But having the players know things like that a little ahead of time would give out tons in well being.
But the requirements up front to make sure everything is ready well ahead of time would be pretty huge.
tired glade
@meager galleon I swear I saw a vid of Rev open a bunch and not get one full pull 😂
But can’t recall if it was 20k or more
worthy gull
But seriously.... Thx @keen ledge for passing on our feedback. That's all we can ask of you and the moderator team
heavy cradle
also - we've got a ton of events running right now. I'm sure they were trying to make it where we didn't have "too many", too.
tired glade
It’s still the same event but lowered rewards basically
abstract gate
Sick of the shifting goalposts and constant rug pulls...this is the last arc I drop 20 bucks on, shove your elite rewards sideways you bunch of grifting expletive deleted
crisp jasper
Yeah - it would be shame if scopely let players be rewarded adequately for their play. They might accidentally start enjoying the game
tired glade
Anyways me complaining or pointing out things won’t make a difference at this point
Yeah I didn’t collect my rewards from the arc for two days until I finished my ops 36 but only got ops 35 rewards 😭
I went by a comment in the q&a that said we would get the higher rewards if we levelled but a few days after I heard on a YouTube video it being said if you participate in the event it locks in at that ops rewards
🤷♂️
tawdry cape
I can only imagine the thoughts that go into this. “I wonder what the players will say when we lower the rewards for the event? I’m sure they won’t mind.” “Oh wait. They did mind. Let’s apologize and put it back the way it was. Next week.” Repeat for every event always.
abstract gate
Nothing says sorry quite like a bonus refinery...
steep torrent
So myself and several other lvl 27's in our alliance discovered today we are going to end up 2 research short of being able to complete the Roguish Ways - Elite. We can only do 68 of the 70 required. What gives with that?
eager lava
same reason they e never answered why there arent whales only and free play only servers... whales dont enjoy battleing other whales because its too even a match and ends up being "expensive"... they get their jollies punchin down and in effort to keep the spenders spending thats just how its gonna be, so either laugh at how those losers spend their time and money, or download a different game.
doesnt hafta be new rougue research, that is a carefully crafted ploy to chump people into rushing their ops level, which increases the amount of bases the bums at 41 and up can raid in one hit
steep torrent
Other sections of research counts towards the alliance leaderboard but not the Elite solo. I have done two in the Galaxy tree and neither counted towards the Elite total. Still sitting at 68 of 70.
umbral cargo
On desperate measures event it has not let me complete part 6 any ideas
abstract gate
Points 6-10 are from the next mission chain obtainable from the battle pass milestones, unless you bought points you don't have it yet
@umbral cargo When you finish today's mining event if you haven't bought any battle pass points you should have this much to go.
heavy cradle
@steep torrent - There should be 70 points total available, but it does require you to get all the mats from the faction store for Anarchist weaponry
novel hollow
Is there an ops research blockage?
heavy cradle
for the elite event? Yes. Several of the researches have a requirement of r&d 28 on them at the final points.
for 27 there are exactly 70 items you can complete prior to M10 and the final Stella Blueprints. That includes Anarchist Weaponry.
keen ledge
Do I get Zerg then?
meager galleon
Protoss are superior so
meager galleon
Surprised you don’t prefer Protoss either, logical etc
meager galleon
proud solar
Sooo, if I'm reading this right, they not bringing khan back(till after the events, "for the duration of battlepass"(if at all) but Ferengi monday is coming back because they forgot about how important para is.... 🤔
abstract gate
Until they decide something different yeah...I'm done trying to keep up with scopely's 🐂 💩 tbh...fk the events anyway you want guys, this arc is the last 20€ you'll see from me.
abstract gate
I will hold my judgement, but so far khan shards being removed during the arc then lat solo milestones, that uncommon ore and rare and partseel... yes we enjoy the battle pass... yes many buy it when they may not spend.
If however the numbers are being crunched and reducing 'standard' rewards we get each week are being removed, dont make me get the calculator out and start deducting that off battle pass rewards and think .. hey this is getting worse
mystic zealot
Are there any more research burst events left? Missed them all so far, times seem wrong
eager hill
we got to give credit to scopely though. They stretch their playerbase's tolerance to put up with bs to the limit, just to find that sweet spot of rss/mat bottleneck. Every little bit of frustration counts a win in scopely's book i guess. A bit more, and maybe some more non spender can join the list of regretting spenders 🤣👏
mystic zealot
👍 thanks
inland hamlet
And still a different breed not compensated...
But hey 28s got compensation x2. Plus fact get 5 burst on top of 2 research,
A different breed is basicly ops rush but at ops 24 it's impossible as, station upgrades needed v mats used to construct buildings does not equal 3450 let alone 8350
But hey 27 and below also don't get Khan mara shards anyway
Or ultras
Also events geared to lvl 27 players...
warped stag
@meager galleon @keen ledge Raynor FTW!
inland hamlet
Why no real events for lower lvls cos ops rush just on station buildings at ops 24 when need all gens and vaults to upgrade shipyard, hangar doesn't provide points either.
And event started late, so what was started in the intervening period didn't count either, but compensated 27 plus who started research early
meager galleon
Raynor be a chump
inland hamlet
But fine they all have vidar so doesn't matter the newer servers...
Only people able to even get vidar from different breed spent all speedups plus 6k lat and still short on points, as points don't reflects mats available to be used at each ops lvl
knotty birch
<@&509691205798592532> - I don’t have a lat rush event at all, no solo leaderboard or Alliance lat rush. I have restarted and cleared localisation.
shrewd totem
Read the announcement.....
teal jackal
@knotty birch you need to send a ticket to support.
knotty birch
@shrewd totem it’s not one milestone replacing the other - o just don’t have the solo leaderboard event or the alliance event. I stopped mining and gave up nodes so it’s screwed up my solo leaderboard and alliance event.
keen ledge
The whole "bucket" is missing? (that's what I call the event containers)
warped stag
Bucket, I like the sound of that.
knotty birch
Yes no lat Monday bucket
steep torrent
@heavy cradle And the last one I have to do is the Anarchist Weaponry which I should be able to complete tomorrow. But with that I am still one short. I don't think I got credit for the Stella Research.
keen ledge
Do you have the daily events bucket?
warped stag
Doesn’t look like it, only completed events.
keen ledge
That is really odd.
meager galleon
I usually see that on immediate login, and then I go out and back in and stuff populates correctly
knotty birch
Yeah I know right. I finished the Master Surveyor straight away with preloads and gave up my nodes / stopped mining. I normally place top 5 solo and my alliance normally wins - not this week.
@meager galleon - I have logged out and cleared localisation. No change.
keen ledge
Can you PM me your PlayerID please?
knotty birch
Yeah sure - standby
ancient meadow
is it just me or are teh servers laggy as all get up today?
keen ledge
I had one small hiccup with a 10 minute chest, but nothing significant.
fleet parcel
Hey do we know if at the last phase of outlaws we are getting a event store like borg arc?
south cedar
Posted in #🤝-help-each-other also: I was not able to play arc 1 and now aug space is locked. How do I unlock it, or am I out of luck?
fleet parcel
For aug space u just need to unlock the Botany Bay and for that it’s just a series of quests..
south cedar
I've had the BB for a long time, unlocked all the way to Yarda. Come back after a break, and it's all locked...
fleet parcel
Guessing that is a glitch or bug.. just send a in game ticket hopefully they can get ya some help.
south cedar
Getting help on #🤝-help-each-other - Stupid me saw the new entry points and thought the old was gone...
mossy saddle
@inland hamlet they won't respond re the vi'dar. They haven't for the last week. But a few people cry about the mining event or how they stupidly did research and didn't think and they have a "solution" within an hour.
earnest hornet
We have had both on our server 129
shrewd totem
@knotty birch check now
knotty birch
Ok will do
Ok got them all now @shrewd totem so not sure what ya’ll did! Anyway my event is screwed now as is my alliance contribution as I haven’t been mining and gave up my nodes including a lat super node 😢
earnest hornet
meager galleon
knotty birch
@keen ledge whatever it was, thanks for fixing. Just on the endless pointless unrewarding trail with CS about my rewards for a screwed up event.
dapper drum
yeah but for RoA it was only LB's
old crystal
Question for Scoplay.
Race to Op 20- I am lvl20 now. I want the Kirk shards. If I lvl up will I still get the rewards, or am I just out of luck?
dapper drum
SOL
hasty lintel
Do we know what the Apex Outlaw event is?
teal jackal
Spoiler alert: Spend money.
wanton cloud
you can choose to spend money or not, name calling over something that was not at all meant to be offensive is not going to get you anywhere except banned 
eager hill
@silent kayak you really need help buddy. No need to be so aggressive over someone's views about some game 🤣
keen ledge
No shaming, Texas.
modest oyster
Apex is listed as AMS so it’s just like COW
Guess makes it fair to all alliances to get a shot vs ALB.
hollow fossil
and for those that don't know AMS is ?
wanton cloud
Alliance Milestone
hollow fossil
ty
silent kayak
@keen ledge please pass on my desire to see less of the forced PVP nonsense to earn points for the Pass. I have to leave my base exposed and the events unit selection team seem to be hooked on the idea that everyone owns a paid for, overpowered ship. Its is grossly unbalanced for the event it is used in/
granite zenith
🙄
silent kayak
and as far as shaming goes... caution everyone that merely suggesting that someone should go kill themselves, is a criminal act in some states. FYI!
wanton cloud
@silent kayak what exactly does that last statement have to do with anything? who suggested that?
robust vapor
I would be curious to see that legislation and case law supporting it 🤔
But as has been said and demonstrated repeatedly, you can kill those overpowered jellyfish by using the right officers. Obviously there is an advantage to having the right officers and badges to spend on them, but even I've killed a couple with my Talla and I don't PvP 🤷♂️ I even lost to a baby Phindra 😂 crew is the make it break, not having the jellyfish 👍
You can also complete the event by being studied my attacked only, I've done it a couple of times, and then send my weakest ships in specifically for people that need the points.
neon vale
Am I missing something, or is the second half of this Outlaws mission event unreachable?
I only see 50 more keys and the remaining missions are 100 or more.
wanton cloud
the stella mission is 50 keys
it moves around in the event store section so it's easy to miss
the side missions are only for people who buy the elite battle pass though
which gives 300 more keys
eager hill
Texas's last post 2-3 days ago was a rant about how jelly was p2w ship and it is better to "slit his wrist than play this game". I suggested he shouldn't be bothered enough to think too much of a game that much. Supposedly he thinks my suggestion was harmful 🤣
and the quoted sentence is his own!!
his post was removed by a mod ofc
wanton cloud
yeah i went back and checked that and realized he was the one that said it 
neon vale
Thanks DJ. I see it now.
wintry tulip
Is there ever going to be a chance at getting the rest of the BPs for the jellyfish considering its grouped in with acceptable ships for pvp events? I've been at 39bps for some time now from missions and looks like this is as far as I'll get.
wanton cloud
once you get past level 18, it is unobtainable
except maybe if it goes in the store
wintry tulip
That's what I've heard but sure doesnt seem right to have an event with clearly dominant ship and yet not offer it in any way
wanton cloud
it's not clearly dominant if you have the right crew though
wintry tulip
I've missed 2 trains then. Server 29 the jellys run the show every time
wanton cloud
well then you might might want to look at 3 officers in particular, yuki, krell, and mirek, they all have abilities that directly counter the jellyfish, but there are a few combinations that can counter the jelly, even on the talla
wintry tulip
Hmm
dapper drum
remove all jellyfish from the game!
wanton cloud
marcus does shield penetration, and is the same group as yuki
wintry tulip
I'll have to play around with it a bit more next round through.
Nice DarkPrince. Honestly more of a surprise someone hasnt slapped a pricetag on the bps yet
dapper drum
20$
hollow fossil
They did, but they also put a Dumb level upper limit on them
dapper drum
is all the jellyfish costs when it was for sale in the lower levels
at level 18 it switches to the northstar
so either buy it before 18 or stay level 17 until you can complete enough events to get it for free
icy trout
This is rediculous my hard to get 70... when all are 1,... except if you purchase a prime
Why is it not running through the month...
merry fulcrum
It's not really meant for free to plays but it's easier if you're a higher level because of speed ups and refinery drop rates, plus more lat
dapper drum
yeah I finished mine days ago
merry fulcrum
I'm just not doing it anymore I got 48 done but I don't see a justification in spending 200+ uc on fighting dirty
That research doenst help much
abstract gate
The funniest part is the prime that gives 70pts is utterly worthless to a large portion of the playerbase 😂 scopely are basically suggesting you pay 100€ to complete 1 event
dapper drum
prime augment is the best prime there ever was! almost rivals the vault of latinum
abstract gate
Bankrupt your lat and speed ups reserve (not to mention your uc's) OR flash the cash for a 100% pointless prime
old crystal
I'm going to repost my question from earlier.
Race to Op 20- I am lvl20 now. I want the Kirk shards. If I lvl up will I still get the rewards, or am I just out of luck?
I've had one actual response to this question, and I was told to build. I've already built and researched everything.
regal horizon
I’m having an issue where I am completing the new researches but I’m not getting credits towards my Roguish Ways -Elite event? I’ve been stuck at 51/70 for at least three researches that I completed. Anyone else have this problem??
regal horizon
@pseudo rover thank you for the help, sorry I missed that. You are right, I was trying to complete one not listed. 👍
dapper drum
yep fine print matters with scopely, but only if its non player beneficial
kind olive
I feel like I’m missing something.. There are 350 more available mission keys in battle pass, I currently have 0 remaining since I. Did the main mission line.... but you need to spend 400 more mission keys to do the remaining side missions.... ... where are the remaining 50 mission keys?
pseudo ibex
I was wondering if it is better to hold off on our muddarmada credits for the stella, or would be better to run a couple to collect enough rep to level up in the faction and be ready to tier the stella up much more when it is built
pseudo rover
The value play is to wait and use your Stella for the % boosted resources dropped.
thin bloom
I'm going to repost my question from earlier.
Race to Op 20- I am lvl20 now. I want the Kirk shards. If I lvl up will I still get the rewards, or am I just out of luck?
@old crystal If you can, upgrade any building to lvl20 and it will complete the event
crystal dagger
@kind olive you only Need 350 keys from now. 50 for « practice makes Perfect » 100 for « a long way from Home pt1 » and 200 for « Person of interest »
hexed gorge
Of which 300 are only available from the elite battle pass
gusty glen
I feel like I’m missing something.. There are 350 more available mission keys in battle pass, I currently have 0 remaining since I. Did the main mission line.... but you need to spend 400 more mission keys to do the remaining side missions.... ... where are the remaining 50 mission keys?
@kind olive You only need to spend 350 more. Pay careful attention to the mission names because I have found if I view one and back out it switches the order of the mission packs so you may have viewed the 100 key pack twice!!! It caught me out too lol
This is what you should still have:
wintry gorge
Lmao true, I got baited too 😂
dapper drum
event store has always been like that
the first item is always last until you view one then it moves to its true position
gusty glen
#scopelylogic 😂
hazy aspen
Anyone know which building s to upgrade to unlock vidar blueprints?
old crystal
@thin bloom ALL building already at level 20.
ALL BUILDINGS are ALREADY built and at lvl 20...
thin bloom
In that case you're out of luck I guess.
shrewd totem
Yeah sadly
dapper drum
good luck next time, thanks for playing please play again
silent kayak
@silent kayak what exactly does that last statement have to do with anything? who suggested that?
@wanton cloud the person who I blocked. that is the problem with chats like this....people post in the moment and they have very short memories of what they post.
Anyone know which building s to upgrade to unlock vidar blueprints?
@hazy aspen none....they are a buy option.
crude beacon
quick sand
@crude beacon these buildings:
Dilithium Vault
Dilithium Warehouse
Refinery
Armada Control Center
Parsteel Warehouse
Parsteel Vault
Operations
Tritanium Warehouse
Tritanium Vault
From what I can tell this "a different breed" event has been a total failure. Very few seem to be able to complete it even starting from a clean base and building everything.
abstract gate
Problem is at that lvl they had to have planned for this 2 months ago to have a chance
Hard to do with no f@#$ing calendar
Idd, trash tactics from a trash company
shrewd totem
How can you possibly plan when then is no info about whats coming. That's a ridiculous suggestion.
@median slate they already should know there is going to be another ops rush event for them at the end of this month IF they looked at the in game news
abstract gate
Lol still impossible to plan for when the prep time needed for these events is measured in months not days...your argument is dumber than the event
shrewd totem
They announced swarm thing,would know if you read #⭐-official-announcements
Burst events times fixed after some time
We CAN still get regular swarm Sunday during Battle pass if there is another event with battle pass points
raw oasis
@shrewd totem the “a different breed” event was a total joke for anyone like myself who is lvl 24. It was impossible to attain and there isn’t enough buildings to upgrade to spend materials on unless you go up 4, yes 4, lvls.
I’m not rushing up 4 lvls so I can get destroyed on my dailies and just for half the BPs needed for a ship that should be available all the time because it’s required to complete missions in game
@shrewd totem I upgraded from a clean lvl 24 base to every thing in it being a lvl 25. Spent a ridiculous amount of speed ups and latinum to do so in the required 7 day time frame and it wasn’t enough to reach even the first milestone.
abstract gate
Ah, see you obviously didn't plan well enough...apparently
raw oasis
Ya cause who could have known you needed 10m latinum to achieve an event milestone 😂🤦🏼♂️
Event : Total Failure
abstract gate
Ya know, with the few hours prep time you had maxing the event and then the next should be super easy. All you need to do is plan ahead like batman says...event isn't broken we are for thinking it is...
raw oasis
Oh of course it was possible. Nothing is impossible when you buy 100 packs a day for 7 days to complete the event on time right?
abstract gate
Now you're getting it 👍 😂
raw oasis
Oh my bad I’ll go cash in my retirement savings for half the vidar bps
unique lodge
For your $1000 we give you... a bottle of water, good job!
That’s Scopely reward logic
abstract gate
Apparently that = planning ahead in scopely's book
raw oasis
I AM thirsty.... 🧐
unique lodge
Just keep paying, just keep paying
raw oasis
I’d like to see the numbers of player that were like myself, lvl 24 with a clean base to upgrade at event start, that were able to even reCh the first milestone.
abstract gate
Gonna go away now...talking about that event makes me angry enough to say something bannable and I don't even have to do that pos event
raw oasis
😂
unique lodge
Their events aren’t designed to reward the players, they’re designed to force pack purchases
Their entire game is like a casino/drug addiction model
raw oasis
I don’t think even the top spenders could have spent enough on this one
unique lodge
Give em a taste n make em buy
clever socket
Well they saved me money, I was going to buy one pack to win the final burst event and when it never showed yesterday at around 4pm as per the in game news, I didn't
And now reading here I see they moved all the times around and didnt communicate it and now I wont buy that pack
So thanks for saving me 100 scopely
indigo perch
Yep, wallet closed for duration of this event. Maybe it will cure me and I'll stop spending all together. Dolphins, not whales turn the bottom line black. There are 100x more of us. Ignore me at your own peril.
abstract gate
@clever socket The ingame news stated July, 13th at 8am CET (EU) as the final burst event. Which we got.
They had trouble with the first 2 and added one after the second on the same day, but rest was as planned.
But things could clearly be better. 😅
clever socket
@clever socket The ingame news stated July, 13th at 8am CET (EU) as the final burst event. Which we got.
They had trouble with the first 2 and added one after the second on the same day, but rest was as planned.
But things could clearly be better. 😅
@abstract gate Haha, I accidentally scrolled sideways and down with my eyes it seems and read the US lol. Well i saved myself 100 then. Maybe my subconsicence was telling me something
Yep, wallet closed for duration of this event. Maybe it will cure me and I'll stop spending all together. Dolphins, not whales turn the bottom line black. There are 100x more of us. Ignore me at your own peril.
@indigo perch yup, £19 elite pass is enough for me on this, anything else is a money grab and I'll skip on by and see how far I can get for free
abstract gate
Probably 🤣 @clever socket
heavy cradle
I forgot who mentioned yesterday that the elite ladder is completed busted for ops27, but they are right.
there are only 68 possible researches, based on the list of items you get credit for.
abstract gate
You may have to do uncredited research to unlock the other 2
heavy cradle
no
abstract gate
Dunno if further research is lvl gated..at 38 I don't see that info
heavy cradle
the "other 2" you could do are uncredited.
it's level gated, @abstract gate
Outlaw Mechanics 10, requires R&D 28. locks out Fighting Dirty 9 & 10, which locks out 8 other research
also locks out Lightweight engines 5
abstract gate
Ah...that's 💩
heavy cradle
I already had gone "all in" and rushed my ops 28, but yeah. Stella Research and beyond do not count.
queen quest
Will Vidar be the reward again for the Ops Rush event on the 18th?
drowsy viper
@heavy cradle you have to get outlaws credits and buy research credits in Rogue Store to do “post-Stella” research
Top or bottom
You have to rush because you need two days of farming to get enough rogue credits to buy the research credits in rogue store
Ah! And you need to buy the lackey token in rogue store too...
shrewd totem
Will Vidar be the reward again for the Ops Rush event on the 18th?
@queen quest probably
mental yoke
So convoluted. Some might say: clear as mudd 🌚
drowsy viper
It’s crazy complicated the new rogue store
heavy cradle
@drowsy viper - I've already done that research (and farming). The point is, it doesn't count for the event.
and with only the listed researches, you are stuck at 68 points at ops 27
drowsy viper
Post stella research doesn’t count?
heavy cradle
correcet
heavy cradle
stella research itself, as well as anything after that, do not count
drowsy viper
More dirty than Mudd
heavy cradle
hopefully this is being taken into account for the compensation next week.
drowsy viper
@heavy cradle you’re aware that R&D requires one def platform at lvl 28 so cuts your chances at a station SLB?
shrewd totem
I forgot who mentioned yesterday that the elite ladder is completed busted for ops27, but they are right.
@heavy cradle already reported it to Devs by John
Nobody has raised this concern before
@drowsy viper many raised this earlier
drowsy viper
Nice, well done there BatMan!
Best strategy would be to count Stella research and Anarchist Weaponry or to reward people with R&D at 27 that did 68 researches. @shrewd totem could you be sure it’s mentioned that it’s the R&D building blocking the research and not Ops level?
shrewd totem
You need R&D 28 and for that you need ops 28. So impossible to do at lvl27
heavy cradle
best strategy at this point is to credit anyone at ops 27 with 68 researches as complete.
shrewd totem
That is up to them to decide,nothing we can do
heavy cradle
I'm sure if it's been raised to the devs they are wokring on a solution.
shrewd totem
Yep
drowsy viper
abstract gate
Surely a lvl27 not being able to finish elite research is just bad planning on their part...just like not being able to complete a single milestone in a different breed event is bad planning from the lvl24s
drowsy viper
@heavy cradle if you rush ops you won’t be rewarded then
floral trail
Their solution is for level 27 players to buy packs to update their ops
drowsy viper
Packs are not the problem
The problem is that R&D 28 requires def platform A lvl 28, and def platforms are a strategic update
heavy cradle
you'd have to finish ops, academy, dry dock B, defense platform B (not A), then R&D
to unlock the final few researches required
drowsy viper
Yep
That’s why saying it’s blocked by Ops is partial information
It’s blocked by R&D building. I think the easiest solution would be to count Stella Research and Anarchist Weaponry
Or to lower the bar at 68 for those without R&D at 28
heavy cradle
event is already in flight, I don't think they can change the requirements. At this point folks that are ops27 are going to just have to rely on the compensation next week
drowsy viper
Well I’m not going to whine about it if I don’t. I’ll raise a ticket and if I don’t get compensation then I’ll move on. It’d be unfair to give to others and not to me, but nothing in this game is fair anymore
lilac pumice
Are you kidding me!?! The next event to earn points to get the Stella is to upgrade and use the Stella!?!
wanton cloud
no it isn't?
it's domination
the stella events have nothing to do with the battle pass points
lilac pumice
amber gull
I enjoy seeing events that I cannot participate in 😮
wanton cloud
what can't you participate in?
amber gull
Need bps for stella
pseudo rover
The event lasts for nearly 2 weeks. There will be time to progress.
amber gull
I can still kill eclipses but it cost a ton
lilac pumice
So just buy more packs so you can upgrade your stuff even more cause you've spent everything on upgrading your Outlaws Research...
wanton cloud
?
clear the coast does NOT require the stella...
and it's damage delt, not # killed
i completed domination in 1 minute by upgrading a single officer one level, no need to spend money
rapid axle
Okay maybe it is me, but not fully understanding the Clear the Coast event
wanton cloud
deal damage to eclipse hostiles, that's it
shrewd totem
You dont need a big ship to do damage or kill those hostiles
lilac pumice
How can anyone increase their power to earn more Battle Pass points when they've already spent everything they have (including speedups) to increace their Outlaw Research?
rapid axle
Why have a NS on the image?
wanton cloud
@lilac pumice like i said, i litterally upgraded 1 officer, 1 level
and done
i know you're not as high level as me, and maybe don't have an officer that needs that much xp, but i'm sure you can find several officers to put xp into
or build an envoy, upgrade and level it up
fervent folio
I'm 23 and same thing, Bluehura went from 18 to 19 and bam, Dom done
lilac pumice
I'm recalling my ships now to see who I can upgrade... I'm guessing I'll get a couple of thousand power. Certainly not 400+ thousand.
fervent folio
it isn't just power, you get points for OXP spent
lilac pumice
After, I'll see about what ships I can build.
That's a good tip. 👍
fervent folio
lilac pumice
So got 222,400 doing the two officers I could. Better than nothing. Now to look into ships...
craggy bane
Where is the ISS Jellyfish event for July ??????
shrewd totem
Who said there will be one?
wanton cloud
@lilac pumice i mean there are always other officers too
not just the ones on your ship
lilac pumice
All my other officers are maxed.
For the shards I have.
craggy bane
There has been a Jellyfish event monthly since April after I made above level 35.
shrewd totem
Really!?😮
There has been a Jellyfish event monthly since April after I made above level 35.
@craggy bane doesnt mean there WILL be one every month in the future
Also that isnt true
There has been 1-2 months without Jelly event since April
craggy bane
I participated in April and May and won one in June... on our server. There was no gap. My alliance has two top players saving for this month event. Doing no upgrades, etc to save for the 2-4M points to win a ship.
shrewd totem
Then save more
jagged inlet
You guys are lucky, some of us are stuck behind a badge wall and can’t spend XP on officers.
shrewd totem
No one knows exact dates of those events
craggy bane
Well, like clock work... May and June started on 14 and 13 to end by 16th. May was 2 days long and June was 3 days...
lilac pumice
Hmm... after doing up a bunch of ships I had left over, I still need 175,500. Not bad.
@jagged inlet I'm not even at the point of using badges. LOL
jagged inlet
Ships are max xp for me at the moment. Got a nice research to finish but waiting on an daily event that will payout for the points generated.
quasi token
So no new A different breed event to get the outstanding BP for the vidar if you started at Ops 24. Why only give half and then no new event?
merry fulcrum
Like the new event where you get dil and uc gas, don't think I've seen one before
lilac pumice
Holly cow!!!
shrewd totem
Well at least we are getting more badges for free now since they added them to battle pass
celest cloud
So no new A different breed event to get the outstanding BP for the vidar if you started at Ops 24. Why only give half and then no new event?
@quasi token
According to the schedule it is due in 4 days time.
quasi token
@celest cloud thanks
indigo perch
Leave it to scopley to make a "getaway vehicle " the slowest boat in the galaxy....smh....
shrewd totem
It is a battleship.....
Also it gets faster than any ship in the game if you max it
Impulse speed goes up when you upgrade it
raw oasis
How many players got anything from the “a different breed” event? Bet no one completed it without spending $1000’s of real cash
What a failure of an event
hexed yarrow
Hey scopely the Stella/Armada event is broken did 8-10 eclipse Armada's and not a single point
fervent folio
if people did spend to win then it's not a failure. Events for whales are ok, they keep the game running for the rest of us
raw oasis
Events are not for whales, events are to keep people interested in playing so they do will eventually want to invest in a game that they like. When an event is so heavily geared toward those that spend it shouldn’t be for a reward, as in a ship like the vidar that is needed, that all the whales already have. Little people and FTP should be able to achieve that goal@fervent folio
fervent folio
some events are for whales and that's ok
pseudo rover
@hexed yarrow Be sure to use a Stella.
fervent folio
not every event can be for everyone
and we can get the ship, for free, as part of the battle pass, just a bit later than whales
it's ok for there to be events designed for whales to get stuff a little sooner
hexed yarrow
@pseudo rover thanks yeah I just realised that was coming to retract my post
raw oasis
@fervent folio the reward for the event I’m talking about was vidar. Something everyone already has except new people who have no other way to get it
Why would the reward for an event geared to whales be for a vidar?
fervent folio
also, if i am not mistaken, a fresh 23 who used speed-ups could have completed that event pushing to 25, so if you were 23 and had half the bp, you could get the other half by pushing to 25
indigo perch
@shrewd totem old west names, bank robbing, etc....then the robbers pick a mule over a stallion for a getaway? Not buying it .... it's just more lack of attention to detail....
fervent folio
in my case, if i had pushed to 25 I would have enough bp to build 2 Vi'Dar's when I got to 25
which is entirely pointless as well
raw oasis
The event only gave 50/100 bps needed so that’s not possible
fervent folio
I have 150 bps, so yeah it is
Because Borg Arc 1 gave 100 and Borg Arc 2 gave 50
re-read what I said...if you had half the bp
my guess would be another half will be available from the Event Store and the end of Outlaws
so you could have gotten half here, then another half then
pseudo rover
Stay respectful my dudes. 🖖
fervent folio
or perhaps they will make half available for purchase next time an Event that needs the Vi-Dar is run
raw oasis
So someone who has zero bps, like me, and had a fresh lvl 24 base and upgraded everything to lvl 25 wasn’t even enough to get 25bps. Why would I spend all speed ups and latinum to get 25 or 50 bps which is only half way there and kill my chance at doing any dailies.
fervent folio
but yeah, you are just being whiny, so gonna block you before I get myself in trouble responding to you
remote ginkgo
I started event as a 26 and just bought July rewards pack and finished event, I had a bunch of speed up saved and used lat. only bad thing was I had to upgrade to level 28 ops which I won’t collect for a month or so
raw oasis
Sure worked for 26, 24’s didn’t have enough buildings to spend the mats on to complete it
remote ginkgo
I had just enough buildings to save upgrade fo 28 till this morning
indigo perch
@pseudo rover hey I'm just pointing AND laughing, let an old man have his fun...
fervent folio
point is, not every event can be designed just for you
if you can't complete it or the rewards are not worth it for you, don't do it
orchid halo
fervent folio
there will be other ways to acquire the Vi'Dar in the future. If you are not even 25 yet, why does it bother you?
low berry
Wait you get 10k for building and scrapping stellas and 150-200 points per armada ??
So what is the sense in doing armadas
frail ice
so you have to destroy the armadas with stella to get points, or will any ship do?
uneven wave
@shrewd totem why isn't it adding loot from armadas to what we already have? Killed 2 armadas and my uncommon exchange loot didn't change at all
onyx rock
so now at the moment only when you buy you get the stella?
shrewd totem
Recall your ship
@onyx rock yes but F2P will be able to get it in a few days if you do battle pass events
onyx rock
I do the events and also paid for the battle pass
stone grail
So you'll get it in a few days
shrewd totem
You need to buy point packs if you want to get Stella right now
uneven wave
Not the codes, the uncommon exchange loot
fervent folio
yeah, check your cargo....
onyx rock
can not find in the battle pass... so I will get the missing 50bp with event?
shrewd totem
@onyx rock milestone 10
stone grail
Both sets of bps are in the battle pass
fervent folio
Check Milestone 10
fervent folio
you got half from Milestone 5 already, the other half are in 10
onyx rock
I am around half way with the points to milestone 10
viral sail
Does anyone here have an opinion or advice on the best way to spend the exchange armada credits? Is it better to spend on parts for the Stella (which I don't have yet) or on the credits+rep? I'm a free player, so looking for the best bang for my virtual bucks
fervent folio
yup, that;s where most people that did not buy points but have completed all events are
stone grail
Id get the rep
shrewd totem
@viral sail I would go with unc parts
shrewd totem
You can get rep from events and other chest but not the parts
viral sail
Good point - do you know if the parts get better or worse value as your rep increases? I'm currently Abettor
viral sail
So maybe I should save them for when I get to the next reputation tier...
uneven wave
Thanks guys, now at trouble maker rep
ruby moss
Are eclipse armadas bugged from giving points for the event? Don't three and zero points towards Stella progression LB
shrewd totem
You need to use Stella
viral sail
Thanks, @shrewd totem - way better value at trouble maker
viral sail
I need about 900 reputation to get there, I'll save my credits
@shrewd totem would you mind taking a screenshot of your Exchange Heist Loot in the faction store? I want to compare to mine to see if increases value as well
shrewd totem
That ss was from DJ's discord channel
viral sail
Ah
shrewd totem
Graphics room
viral sail
Thanks
sonic swan
If we do the armardas without the stella do we still get the credits for it
shrewd totem
Armada credits?yes,points for event? No
sonic swan
Ok ty @shrewd totem
solar abyss
The Armada events that start Thursday, does anyone know if that will be for killing new Rogue armadas only? Or any armada?
inland hamlet
Event has started on 27 plus can see it as requires you to build and use stella
solar abyss
Starts Thursday for server 21. Wondering if I should be saving the new rogue armada directives..
drowsy viper
I’m sure events are planned weeks ahead, but there’s no chance we get a “Stella Progression” milestone event? It would be quite nice to incentivise the normal player base to scrap Stella and rebuild it, as LB is reserved to people who bought Stella mostly...
And it’s not worth atm to buy it
If you want people to “try” the new mechanic, they will if they need it to to reach a milestone
I mean is not like we “need” this type of event, it’s more that I think will help player base to get used to new mechanic
tawny owl
What’s minimum level scrap yard to scrap Stella
plucky ermine
Can we have clear the coast everyday pls?
tawny hinge
The "Stella Progresstion" event is a farce. Just Buyers.
viral sail
My vote: every time Scopely makes a boo-boo, instead of a compensation chest, I want a Clear the Coast 🙂
nova valley
@tawny owl scrapyard 27 I believe.
@tawny hinge how ya figure? You cannot buy uranium. You cannot speed up a scrap. It’s literally about as even a pace as you can be.
It’s also 13 days. So plan it out that your builds and scraps end at times that work for you so you don’t waste time.
viral sail
@nova valley I think his point is that free players cannot get the Stella yet
So right now paying players only
tawny hinge
Haha i still need 30k points on the BP to build the Stella. This will be i think 3 days. I will never never reach up 3 complete days
This cant work
And i didnt miss any points on the BP
fervent folio
wait a minute here, hold the boat, you mean people that paid get access to something earlier than those that don't? What nonsense is this?!?!?!
warped stag
Same, I will see the Stella in 2/3 days. Let those p2p have their fun.
shrewd totem
2 probably
steady narwhal
@fervent folio lol who would think
indigo perch
P2p are.stuck too. Have to get stella to lvl 10 then scrap to continue mission.
shrewd totem
23k from tomorrow's domination then another 7kish from whatever comes next
warped stag
I have a lvl 15 floating around my server already. Why spend mat on it when you need to scrap it for a mission?
shrewd totem
To get more particles?
shrewd totem
And more points in the lb event
tawny owl
Does look like its best to scrap Stella at higher tiers to max next build
warped stag
Aaah, ok. I’m not there yet @shrewd totem need to have the stella first.
tawny owl
Get 29k Stella particles at max level
warped stag
Good to know👍.
tawny owl
steady narwhal
is this the armada event that was suposed to start thursday?
neat garden
my rare exchange credits are not showing in my inventory. anyone else got that?
neat garden
oh yeah. silly me. thanks
abstract gate
Impossible to get the 70 Point With lv27 
i spend over 20k latinum
I hate this unplanned sh*t
restive inlet
Is there a level cap? Go to ops 28?
restive inlet
🙈 sad only 2 points more...
abstract gate
The next Science Upgrade need OPS lv28. And for that i dont have the ress or booster
pseudo rover
@abstract gate This has been raised to LiveOPS for review, with any luck - this'll not be the end of it.
abstract gate
Ty
royal horizon
What's the best crew for stella?
fervent folio
depends on what you are doing with it, as with any ship
novel hollow
You should be able to do the anarchist weaponry with the unlocks from the store, may take some grinding
royal horizon
Is Khan's new crew boost the stella? On the armada or hostiles
novel hollow
heavy cradle
whoever came up with this elite ladder event is a sadist.
I've gone through so much uncommon gas to finish this thing. Blew everything to go R&D 28 to get the last 2 researches (since you can't do it at 27). Got some crazy lucky rolls, and then hit this wall.
ashen wharf
heavy cradle
kinda hoping that we can get a bit more clarification on what folks without R&D 28 can expect with the compensation thing. I've gotten way too invested in this particular event at this point, but I've done my all 68 I can, and honestly at this point it's negatively impacting my game experience to the nth degree.
left yoke
This event cycle has been a fustercluck even my scopely standards
bitter aurora
in the battlepass milestone 10 you get 50 mission keys, you need 100, is this correct.
winged tulip
Think you need the elite pass to get all the mission keys
abstract gate
This Event is Not playable for lv27
bitter aurora
yes but there's only 350, you need 400
winged tulip
Hmmm I don’t know then 🤔
bitter aurora
maybe its a typo
winged tulip
Anyone know what you need to get the Lackey Token? I got it in a pack, but need to know what was needed for it without pack.
Maybe Chopper. Will have to wait and see
bitter aurora
its for one of the new researchs
winged tulip
Yeah needed for the Augment Favour. I need to know what you need to buy it in the faction store
bitter aurora
sorry don't know
winged tulip
No worries, cheers anyway
robust vapor
@bitter aurora the items in the event store are in the wrong order when you open it, and then it reorders them once you go back to the list. Check again, but pay close attention to the names.
winged tulip
Anyone else know?
robust vapor
@winged tulip there are three badge looking purchase items at the end of the faction store, one of them should need the lackey token of I remember rightly.
winged tulip
Mate got screwed over by the lvl28 trap. Trying to see if he can get the lackey token to complete augment favour so he can finish the Elite event
I bought the pack with the lackey token in it from the real shop so I can’t see the token in the faction store anymore
robust vapor
I don't think that's one of the counted research, he can check which research counts towards it in the event, but it's only the first section of the research tree.
winged tulip
It does count. It gives you all 70 points for the event. That’s how I completed it.
@robust vapor Do you still have the Lackey Token in the rogue faction store?
nova valley
@lavish meteor it’s not a typo and it’s not 400. Fortunately the events jump their position. Lmao
So when you look at one and look at another you’re actually looking at same one.
bitter aurora
last one practice makes perfect was 100 points, until i reopened it now 50
thanks for help
nova valley
Np
robust vapor
@winged tulip sorry, was in the car. The one that gives you 70 points is prime augment favour, which doesn't need the token that I can tell?
nova valley
Correct. That’s an actual prime. The lackey token opens up anarchist weaponry .
robust vapor
Yeah, I was just checking that on LCARS 😅
winged tulip
D’oh! My mistake. Sorry and cheers
cursive solar
Has anyone that started their research before Elite event received their ‘frame’ yet? Just wondering cause I haven’t even though I have over 70 research points. (Without buying the prime)
heavy cradle
You will get it as compensation next week merc. Wont be fixed during the event cycle
cursive solar
Great! Thanks for the reply 😃🖖🏻
winged tulip
Anyone who has done the Augment Favour research, are you actually seeing a benefit? I don’t think I am.
trail nova
Is there away you can get more bp’s for the Stella, I saw in some video’s they had more then 100 bp’s for Stella 😕
winged tulip
When you scrap the Stella it gives you more bps to rebuild it
Sounds like it'd be great if you could get 2 stellas, then you can be scrapping one while using the other..
trail nova
I understand that when you scrap it u get new bp’s but how do you go over that 100 bp’s 😕
Like rwagg42 says would be great to upgrade one and scrap another 😅
heavy edge
@trail nova When you scrap Stella, you got a special token. You use this token in Renegat store and this token give you 100 Bp to build another Stella. That's what i understood
trail nova
@heavy edge yes me to but how do you get 200 bp’s 😅
heavy edge
I don't know 🙂 Perhaps we can loot BP as for other vessels ?
heavy cradle
70 outlaw research completed. That includes having to finish my ops upgrade to 28, Academy, dry dock, turret, and R&D. Tons of lucky draws on chests for the over 1,200 uncommon gas needed. Now to wait for the compensation box next week sigh
inland hamlet
You can't get more than 100 bp unless you were a content creator who got a full ship early to show us how it worked.
Yes they content creators can in theory build 2, they are limited by scopely to 1 as per their agreements.
south arrow
Why do you want even one of them 🤣
inland hamlet
@south arrow OK you don't do the outlaw research tree
@south arrow why want a vidar?
If no Stella, no outlaw research or rep, same as no vidar no Borg benefits.
No bb no augment officers or data so have fun.
Why do events?
south arrow
Don’t like the vidar either don’t use it often
The new Research doesn’t increase defences or anything else much
fervent folio
You can use the Vi'Dar to get Inert nanoprobes which can be turned in to Independent Credits. Not many other ways to get those. Very useful when you have independent Officers that need promoting to have a path to get those besides Augment Factin Store
and yeah, there are some great researches in the Outlaw Tree
lot's of cost efficiency upgrades, and repair cost upgrade for G4, which while that may be a long way off will be great when you get there
robust vapor
Depends. If it's based on the same reduction formula and stacks with existing then it wouldn't really be much of a reduction 🤔
pseudo rover
@abstract gate I'm delighted to inform you that you can look forward to receiving the final milestone rewards at OPS27 if you've gotten to atleast 68 points.
inland hamlet
@pseudo rover great so 27 plus get compensated twice but a different breed 23, 24 where not enough g3 buildings event impossible get 0 response.
And your repeating these events in 3d so how can lvl 27 complete this elite event again?
pseudo rover
You aren't eligable for the Roguish Ways Elite event at that OPS level I believe?
It's a research event as well, so I'm not sure what buildings have to do with this.
inland hamlet
No but a different breed started late, milestones changed and milestones were impossible due to at ops 24 g2 needed to build not g3, and at 24 prereq buildings with no mats needed b4 mat buildings.
A different breed was vidar event for lvls 23 to 27, that required to build station buildings only with g3 mats
pseudo rover
Can you send me some screenshots of the event details and the predicament?
trail nymph
Can someone tell me why level 14 has that tick next to it....is this indicating that’s as far as I can get with what events are left?
peak cave
You should see this at 14
desert sun
After reading the comments here, I still don't understand the point in scrapping the Stella if you are just going to lose out on materials.
granite zenith
you need the stella partilce to complete research... unless you plan on buying it
inland hamlet
@pseudo rover posted a ticket 5 days ago with all details, and there's many people posted similar
desert sun
So buy or scrap? Yikes, was hoping it would be something cooler, but guess I expected too much from Scopely.
abstract gate
@pseudo rover That would be Great. The recive will be After the Event ends. Right?
Actually it is still showing 70 points
pseudo rover
@abstract gate They won't adjust the current requirements because it won't retroactively check who has met the criteria after you do so it'll be after, how long after - I don't know.
abstract gate
Thank you very much
indigo perch
How many times are we supposed to scrap and rebuild? (Per original intent)
inland hamlet
Well about 500 times at max lvl to reach last research in tree
At ops 45
I. E. Ongoing...
abstract gate
Do you have to max it each time? levels 35 to 45 are a grind. I'm OK if you get less Tril and Dil back for maxin git lower level, just wondering if it has to be maxed to get the highest research
lilac pumice
Increase power again eh? Well after yesterday I won't be able to do this.
honest cradle
Power gain events should be removed from the rotation, just garbage to get players to spend more money and hold back free players to big to make the milestones. @twilit imp
jaunty sonnet
<@&509691205798592532> 2 questions. What does this do and how much uranium does it take to upgrade to tier two Stella?
honest cradle
As a free player in the 30s I get screwed every single power gain event, it is completely impossible unless you spend weeks saving mats for 1 day event only to have the event repeated the next day
At this point it’s very obvious that it’s a money grab and scopely as a company is getting greedy at the expense of its players
I don’t see any other way to look at it
indigo perch
Stella is still a mule.
manic stag
@pseudo rover any idea when us lvl 27s might get the final reward for the elite event?
pseudo rover
That I do not
honest cradle
@pale wind all ships maxed all officers upgradable need creds
tidal pagoda
@here I'm going to push for level 23 so I can go for the Vidar BP's in the 'A Different Breed' event that starts on 18th July (the repeat of the one everyone hated soooo much - spending Mats on buildings). There is another event, 'Race to Ops 23' which starts at the same time. If I am 22 when they start, so that I can claim the win for Race To Ops 23, will the Different Breed appear when I level???
honest cradle
No you always spend more than you get you just lose
velvet crypt
not possible for f2p to unlock m10 today?
honest cradle
The g3 you get isn’t worth the rss you put i I’ve tried you’re better off waiting for the shitty refinery pulls
What lvl are you
Well you are luckier than most, my alliance hates power gain as much as I do
waxen sedge
@jaunty sonnet It cuts in half the amount of uranium you need for each stella ship component. This doesn't show in the upgrade menu, it just only removes half from your inventory when you do the upgrade. Which means you probably need to have the full amount to initiate it. It's 525 uncommon uranium to get to tier 2, half that with the prime.
velvet crypt
oh boy, scopely made this outlaw content to get rid of f2p... im in a 90% f2p ally and all are now frustrated...no more speedups and resources because all spent for the events. now nothing left for todays domination event. and in addition no more rss and speed-ups for normal progression..
jaunty sonnet
Thanks guys - I’ve seen it now
dapper drum
@velvet crypt have you tried looking in the store, plenty of rss/mats and speedups there
inland hamlet
Yes on 100 quid a tine
But ftp =free to play all events are p2p= pay to play. To even get first milestone.
And all events so far have been impossible to get max reward for sub 28 players. Because of mechanics
And where lvl 27 have Stella armada event.
Under 27 should have hostile event but no event exists.
Fact that battle pass not even completed Stella bp unlock yet till tomorrow, armada event will have been running for 48hrs por pack buyers.
Giving them advantage making it impossible to conpete
velvet crypt
coffin nail... if they spoil the game even more for f2p they will quit. and when the whales dont have poor f2p to raid and kill they will get bored and also quit... -> game dead
novel hollow
All events takes sacrifice of some rss or mats... if everyone could do every event every time wouldn’t it give you nothing to strive for?
dapper drum
thats what pay to win is all about
eager lava
if everyone could compete in every event everytime, everyone would have a great time trying to win... when id.iots sit around talkin about how cool the spending events are, thats what gives people nothing to stive for
novel hollow
What’s a spending event??
dapper drum
most rewards aren't even that great worth the amount people spend
novel hollow
Domination is a planning event
eager lava
heh, domination is a plannin to spend event
i always keep a couple mil officer xp on hand for when they pop up
fervent folio
I've never spent to complete Dom and actually like them as I do not promote or level any Officers unless there is a Dom Event
It's nice to have an event that takes a couple clicks and done, no aditional work
fervent folio
yup
eager lava
its hilarious watching people spend 5,10,20 mil of whatever type of xp, or upgrades to hit the top of the leaderboard just to get a couple hundred lat and 480 ultra tokens😂😂😂heh all that and cant even pull one office chest
fervent folio
yeah, i don't go for the LBs, just the SMS
eager lava
@dapper drum you mispronounced chumpchange for lazy players, but whatevz
fervent folio
and to those complaining, let me ask you, how long have you been playing? How long has this style of event been around? How many Officers did you promote or level outside of this style of Event?
Cause if you've been playing a while and seen these types of events over and over you should know to not Spend OXP when one of these events is not running.
It's called "planning ahead" and is something this game takes a lot of
novel hollow
Win all the daily events
waxen sedge
You could tier a north star at 20 to 8 or 9 and do the five levels, that would be 5 million
eager lava
its pretty easy to get 5 mil points at level 20, or any level... xp just one level of a northstar will get you an easy million or more points, level/ promote a couple officers, it ads up quick
fervent folio
or, maybe he upgraded defense platforms
eager lava
i know people who build ships for the sole purpose of spending xp on em during these events
fervent folio
I know people who don't upgrade Defense Platforms until there is an Event and then use Speed-Ups on them
eager lava
i agree fiz, there are too many cool ships past lvl 20, bein a big fish in a small pond would get old pretty fast
thats not a bad plan, with so many ships out there that can one hit a base, those defense platforms are worthless until these events come along
fervent folio
yeah, platforms are totally pointless when as a 23 32s can one-shot me even if they are fully upgraded and I have all ships home
the only defense is a bubble, nothing else even matters
eager lava
heh, i remember at level 20 when 1200 lat seemed like a fortune!!!!