Who says they didnt.. like I said my android update was waiting for me...
#🏆-event-chat
granite zenith
viral sail
Same for me
uncut bridge
#appledroppedtheball
granite zenith
One reason I refuse to go with apple ever... they are notorious for delayed updates
wise ibex
did you ever developed an app?
you send an app/update to the store. they watch it. they send you an email its approved. you have to push the button and everybod can download it
so if scopely send the patch live before it was approved its their failure
such easy my friend
granite zenith
Not a failure for android users😉
wise ibex
i would say otherwise... when i remember that android nearly approves everything 😉
granite zenith
Yet my phone and game is working glitch free
full charm
also, android is 85% of the global smartphone market share. So, as soon as that patch is approved, it's no surprise that they flip the server switch assuming Apple will be only a few hours behind. It's been that way with every patch that requires an update...and we have this convesation every time.
dark badger
Why is everyone playing the blame game.. no one truly knows what happened... So blaming one platform or the other is utterly fruitless.
wise ibex
i blame the developers for beeing impatient
dark badger
How do we know Scopley did not call back the release? We don't... All we can control is the wait until it is finally put out for release and available to update.
full charm
it's the same way it works in every mobile game. server is flipped, clients are released, android comes first, apply follows (usually within a few hours), once a couple of days go by, to allow android rollout to complete (which can take days to get to all regional app stores), server "force update" switch is flipped and we're all the same again.
It's every patch that requires an update. Every time. Yet, here we chat, every time.
last iron
Scopely is ultimately responsible for when they release. It is their product. They released a product that 20% of their customers can’t use. That is bad business practice.
vast parcel
and?
last iron
It is Scopelys responsibility to their customers and no one else’s
stone grail
Yes but it's up to Apple when they approve the App
kind roost
Complainers always have the right to voice their displeasure by quitting the game
stone grail
Scopely may of submitted it later than they should, true
but from then it's a waiting game
dreamy hearth
Ummm My attack button just popped back up. I reset the app due to other issues I continue to have and now poof there it is.
last iron
It does not matter. Scopely is responsible for releasing a good product.
last iron
Yes I am.
stone grail
there's a technical reason why it's not there, nothing to do with a "good product"
kind roost
They DON'T have to do anything. We may believe they have bad business practices and that they might lose money; but they aren't beholden to anyone but their own stakeholders.
main rapids
The only thing I'm concerned with is that other players can get ahead of iOS users in the current ranked events, and iOS users are losing out on daily missions+timed milestones events.
kind roost
As an iOS user, I've still gotten my daily hostile kills done. It was harder than it should be; but it is still possible.
last iron
Your definition of a “good product” is different from mine.
vast parcel
nobody forces you to play it
stone grail
then don't say they haven't got one, if it's based on opinion and not fact @last iron
main rapids
@kind roost Idk how you did it, I'm not able to see any attack box since the update.
kind roost
@main rapids select a hostile. Then press the spot where the attack button should be (acting like its invisibl)
kind roost
its stupid and annoying. But at least it's playable.
I'd say try a different location
last iron
It is a fact that 20% of customers have difficulty using the product.
chilly island
Same I tried hitting invisible attack button and nothing.
stone grail
That's not a fact
you don't know the market share of this game between the platforms
dreamy hearth
@main rapids Try reloading your app now. I had restarted my app (no update from the app store or anything) and the hostile attack is now working fine. Try it.
kind roost
@last iron I am glad you are passionate about Scopely and want them to succeed. All you are effectively doing is driving more people away from the community. Your complaint has been repeated by many people.
chilly island
Tried it in 3 systems
stone grail
you're giving stats on smartphone OS market share
dreamy hearth
@chilly island Try reloading your app now. I had restarted my app (no update from the app store or anything) and the hostile attack is now working fine. Try it
last iron
How many people have been driven away, do you have any data or is that just an ‘opinion”
chilly island
@dreamy hearth yes it’s working now thank u
main rapids
Just reloading the app is basic really. No change. However I've uninstalled and reinstalled we'll see how that works
stone grail
i haven't said anything to warrant me providing stats @last iron
you're the one making claims
kind roost
@last iron I will leave now. Thats a hard data point. Repeating yourself over and over doesn't actually HELP do anything but make this environment more negative
dreamy hearth
👍 @chilly island Glad to hear it.
Trying to make the room more positive over here. Sorry I was a little negative earlier.
shrewd totem
dreamy hearth
🕯️
@twilit imp Does "we will be extending the Faction hunt event for another 24 hours" mean a true extension or are the resetting the event bringing everyone back to 0?
abstract gate
a reset would be nicer = more credits to win ... mhehehe
abstract gate
I'm guessing reset...anything else would be beyond their feeble capacity as a game company tbh
😄 hahahaha
rocky obsidian
So... they’re extending a hostile event when the ability to hit hostiles is broken? Yup, sounds like Scopely.
dreamy hearth
Yup Reset. That works for me. More stuff to get. 🙂
lean forge
Pretty sure we all would rather have the borg event...
frozen abyss
It's fine. I can use this extra bonus refinery and faction hunt to upgrade a couple of ships
hardy parcel
Another day of waiting is nothing. This game is a marathon not a sprint
dapper bloom
same
frozen abyss
I've been getting very close to weapon upgrades for my Bortas and Saladin, so this is good timing for me.
lean forge
¿por que no los dos? @merry fulcrum
merry fulcrum
Because they tend to occasionally mess up events
frozen abyss
Porque no es posible.
merry fulcrum
🤣😂
viral sail
Where's the borg event?
frozen abyss
It's in the future
Tomorrow at this point. That's what their announcement meant
Because the iOS update isn't released by the Apple Store, the event cannot happen for those players.
merry fulcrum
Check #⭐-official-announcements @viral sail
viral sail
The announcement said the faction event would be extended. They should have been explicit in saying the borg one was delayed
In the past, they extended events without cancelling others
merry fulcrum
Probably implied that it was pushed off
frozen abyss
Rule #1: Just because something has happened in the past doesn't mean it will happen in the future.
viral sail
I wish Scopely was better at communicating
merry fulcrum
Rule #2 history repeats itself
frozen abyss
And so does faction hunt, apparently
frozen abyss
Yeah. I'm good with it, for sure. I'm saving for the Intrepid and B'Rel
viral sail
I enjoy the faction hunt - if Scopely was better at communicating, I wouldn't waste time looking for something that wasn't there
merry fulcrum
frozen abyss
Seems legit, @merry fulcrum
merry fulcrum
viral sail
We'll be waiting a while, I guess!
merry fulcrum
Why faction hunt is fun
But hey, they've got long term plans from what you can see
viral sail
I'm at 40 Saladin blueprints. Probably won't want it anymore when I finally get all
frozen abyss
Trust me. You'll want it.
merry fulcrum
Lol, its a good ship, go grind it out
lean forge
Not saying I hate faction hunt at all. I just am curious to see what’s in the borg event store besides the officer
merry fulcrum
My t5 saladin can do each event in a single run
frozen abyss
Same with mine
merry fulcrum
Plus it's cheaper to repair than a bortas or centurion
viral sail
My t5 Centurion can do 2 events in a single run
merry fulcrum
What level are you killing?
I'm killing 34+, but usually I just sit there and continue to grind down all my hhp from about 1/2way
Even after I finish the event
Which allows me to get bps, from pve chests
dapper bloom
@merry fulcrum I do it in 2 run with my centurion
frozen abyss
crew is important, too
merry fulcrum
I've gotten 4 faction ship bps this event
dapper bloom
same
merry fulcrum
Gladius bp was the most useful bp drop
dapper bloom
I got 2 centurion bp and one bortas bp
viral sail
I'm killing 29-31
merry fulcrum
I need bortas bps
Lol, that's why
I'll do that this event, then ill get back to you 👍
viral sail
Of course - why would I kill higher levels?
viral sail
Don't need them
viral sail
The only faction I kill higher levels is Federation, to combine with dailies
merry fulcrum
Meh, you do you
I'm grinding for ship bps, and rnjesus, will help down the line if I start now
hardy parcel
Meh, don't use my sally
hazy storm
So when does the event start?
viral sail
The borg event? The official announcement in #⭐-official-announcements about the extension of faction hunt supposedly "implies" that the borg event is postponed
crimson walrus
Postponed until CrApple gets the update approved for iOS
last iron
iOS market share worldwide 22.85% https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/iphone/iphone-vs-android-market-share-3691861/
full charm
@last iron It's only 15% when you narrow to smartphones
23% is because iPad is such a popular device--particularly in retail use
last iron
I use IPad
near vector
However is first time after an update IOS version isnot yet available
dapper bloom
yeah, same
floral pike
@merry fulcrum what system do you recommend to grind Salladin BPs? I already have a Bortas and 17k Fed Credits .. so I just need some more to get my Sally ...
merry fulcrum
@floral pike I got all of mine from thama
Get around 40 chest before opening up, its delivers more consistent results
Since August, I got only 3 bps, 2 saladin bps, and 1 bortas bp, but then this event, I've gotten 4 bps, 1 gladius, 2 saladin, and 1 centurion
floral pike
Thank you sir ...
Thama has all types of ships ... surveys, battleships, interceptors ... anyone in specific? For my bortas would be better if i do surveys and/or battlerships due to battle triangle
floral hamlet
So the game is so broken on my server we cannot do the pop up hostile event cause you can't battle more then twice without issue. I heard about this issue earlier on iOS, but I'm an Android user
abstract gate
@floral hamlet did you update your game?
mortal warren
So is it true that the new Borg event is strictly 40+? Those are the rumors spreading around server 13
granite zenith
premium tokens... yes... it seems that the PREMIUM tokens are gonna be things you can receive if you pay the PREMIUM thus the word PREMIUM
floral hamlet
@abstract gate yeah fully updated and cleared localization.
I def have noticed in lvl 40+ hostiles there's fragments of grade four parts that they refine to get parts
abstract gate
Server lag is huge currently, a lot of people updating and getting into game. So try to restart it few more times. If it doesn't start to work, contact support in game.
Also some players report that restarting their phones/tablets helps
jaunty isle
Event and Present are shown yet - but No explanation or possibility to get the Things.
abstract gate
Apparently you need to earn 10 borg tokens to get the mission chain, where you earn those token... who knows?
Idk
odd cliff
Ahhh the Joy's of scopely my pet monkey can code better
visual trench
Where? , what? How?
carmine lily
No information whatsoever, are we meant to scour the galaxy manually to find these missions?
Or is this another $$$ thing
astral bobcat
Cant even buy them it seems.
wintry roost
Battle for glory event gives borg points... maybe start there
pseudo moss
where does the borg event start
carmine lily
New stuff keeps popping up, guess we gotta wait for it
neat plover
So I need to buy two of the $20 packs to unlock the premium Rewards?
abstract gate
dapper bloom
Soooooo! does borg event will be like mirror mirror event? seriously!
@abstract gate yep 💩
ionic wren
it s official?only if pay you can do the mission?
frozen abyss
no, there's no way to buy into the mission chain. You will have to complete an event for it.
ionic wren
ok
loud whale
dapper bloom
no @loud whale
agile silo
The mission is to buy packs it seems
sturdy hull
Battle for Glory Solo Event - smash hostiles...
drops the borg thingys to continue the rest of the borg event
seems they've made it a little bit easier compared to the recent events...
frozen abyss
There's no way to purchase the mission line. You will gain the event unlock things at some point soon, but they're not available yet that I can see. Just be patient, kill some reds for Battle for Glory, and enjoy the ride.
echo parrot
yes there is
if you buy the big borg points pack
you get immediately boosted to tier 5 where you get the mission tokens
@frozen abyss
vapid hill
RIght now it's $50 for the 10 borg keys in the ultra borg points pack to start missions.
frozen abyss
ah, ok. I see that now.
formal elk
Tier 5 rewards, Borg recon event
forest tapir
okay...probably been asked 100 times already but where do we get the keys to unlock the borg missions
@vapid hill could I get a screen shot of that please because my ultra borg points pack does not have that
formal elk
@forest tapir look at the post above yours 😀
pale kestrel
it's from here, @forest tapir
forest tapir
@pale kestrel okay, maybe I am simple, if I dont have any keys to start the missions how am I going to complete events?
pale kestrel
the battle for glory one
forest tapir
those only offer points not keys and I see nothing about converting/buying
pale kestrel
formal elk
Do Battle for Glory every day. Optionally acquire and rank the new Borg dude. Score 48k Borg pts. Collect Keys from T5 Borg Recon event. Start missions @forest tapir
rotund dome
Does everything have to be rolled out with out good instruction? It always has to be a guessing game....and a buying game
keen ledge
Step 1 - Do the BFG missions for Borg points - these collect points for Borg Reconnaissance event
Step 2 - Do these or other Borg missions for days
Step 3- Tier 5 of Borg Reconnaissance unlocks mission keys
Step 4 - Do missions
fading magnet
forest tapir
@keen ledge ty still doesnt make sense but at least I have steps now lol. One of these days scopley will get a launch correct
keen ledge
@fading magnet - please submit a ticket via in game system
torn timber
@fading magnet the pack name for the $50 borg points comes up as Ascher for me. That one shows as the $50 borg officer pack that you purchased
Nvm, the borg officer shows as Antonhek for me, don’t see the Aodaan pack
forest tapir
@pale kestrel @keen ledge alright I just decided to start killing things and it all makes sense now. ty for your patience.
keen ledge
@forest tapir - anytime! If it makes you feel better, I was confused at first too. 🤣
pale kestrel
same until someone mentioned the mission keys in the borg recon tier 5 reward
keen ledge
Repeating Borg Mission message
Step 1 - Do the BFG events for Borg points - these collect points for Borg Reconnaissance event (24 days long)
Step 2 - Do these or other Borg events for days
Step 3- Tier 5 of Borg Reconnaissance unlocks mission keys
Step 4 - Obtain mission chain from gifts section. Do missions. First starts automatically.
Or buy them. Start via gift section. First starts automatically.
astral bobcat
So, were do we spend our alliance trophys? 😁
lethal lotus
The gift section is not giving the 10 free missions keys. Is it not working correctly?
eager hill
@lethal lotus read 2 messages up
granite zenith
go up 3 messages
keen ledge
It is also in #557163704383438850
lethal lotus
I got it now. Thanks. Not sure why they had to make it this hard to understand. But I finally got it.
keen ledge
@lethal lotus - understand completely!
I was so confused, I had to make a process guide. 🤣
merry fiber
How do you get mission keys?
red gulch
Klingon Faction store missing Loyalty Pack ll
tall arch
Another Cash grab
granite zenith
loyalty packs are now i time only purchases with guaranteed items
has been this way since the last update
red gulch
@granite zenith are you referring to faction loyalty packs? They have timers
steep stream
Ok maybe stupid question....
Do we know for sure if you buy the pack with badges, you can get enough points for all 10 unlocks WITHOUT buying more borg points?
At what I just got for battle for glory, if that is 1 per day for 23 days, no way that gets enough for the 10th
supple tiger
No, you have to have two of each level reward token to open the exchange packs. So you have to go through the entire borg reconnaissance event plus get the pack for the 1-10 reward tokens
granite zenith
and the bfg will probably not be the only event during the 23 days
steep stream
Yeah, get that, do the math on 10th unlock in recon...
supple tiger
I mean you’d have to grind pretty crazy to get 200k borg points without spending additional money
granite zenith
you are basing your math on the assumtion that battle for glory will be the only event this month
supple tiger
True, but you’ll also have to do the tier up for the borg officer which of you don’t buy the pack for him (4 times) you’re relying on luck in the recruit exchange and even that’s not a lot of borg points for tiering someone up four levels. That’s a max of 20k points right there for a good deal of work and max of 3.2k for each bfg solo
astral bobcat
Anyone have the option to spend bfg currency?
granite zenith
not at this time...
steep stream
@granite zenith yeah, wish I could assume that the plan if you actively play is that you can do all 10 unlocks for the money, but... um.... scopely...
astral bobcat
Ok, thanks.
granite zenith
that is the plan... do your events every day... pay to skip events and/or to receive premium items...
steep stream
Could absolutely see it being intentionally impossible and just not telling us. So it's not 19.99, its 19.99+49.99 to get the most of your 19.99...
granite zenith
theres no assumption... they have told you flat out this is the way
steep stream
How so? Not sure we are talking about the same thing...
granite zenith
steep stream
My top recon is 225k borg points. If I buy the unlock, do we know for sure I can also get the top recon unlock to match the token I can buy?
granite zenith
the premium pack gives you one each of the tokens... each tier gives you one each of the tokens pregressively
each Premium reward requires 2 tokens
dusk linden
I've updated the app, bought the $50 pack and got the 10 mission keys from the event but I'm not seeing anything in the gift section but what's usually there.
steep stream
I could see it be "sorry, the plan was always that you could never get the top recon reward without buying a 49.99 pack to add an additional 50k borg points..."
@granite zenith you're not getting what I am saying. Yes, getting half the tokens are easy. Do we know grinding can get you ALL of the others?
granite zenith
that is not what they have stated that the new plan is... they have said that you can grind the event to completion... and that the new model of that they are going to is a pay to skip grinding, no longer a pay to win.
is comes down to this. either you trust em and grind or you dont... and if you dont, why bother playing
steep stream
Past experience would say trust with scopely is a dangerous thing...
granite zenith
well thats a choice you have to make.
steep stream
No actually I was hoping Panic or someone had clarified
But sounds like simple answer is don't buy now, decide towards the end
granite zenith
PanicToday at 9:55 AM
Thing is that as a F2P you get ALL the content as long as you grind
PanicToday at 9:55 AM
But if you pay you get a bit more with it
ashen wharf
but that is incorrect you cant unlock the event store at all
so you get nothing except the recon stuff however much you grind
so its not "ALL"
dapper bloom
And it’s not everyone who play or can play everyday
steep stream
All content =/= all rewards too....
I would just like to know, if I complete all the standard pve stuff for next 24 days, should I be able to get to MS10?
weary egret
The description says clear, special events, so wait and see what comes up next.
graceful shard
@steep stream I get 4200 points a day so after 24 days I would only get naturally to t7. So no without buying more borg points you won’t make it to 10
small flint
So...I’m more than a little confused to how to start borg missions
graceful shard
It also looks like I would@have to purchase all 3 packs for additional 90k points and finish all borg missions to get to number 10
I would say your better off just buying a 99 dollar pack
fervent folio
Unless when you get to T5 and unlock the missions the missions also award points
or they run other special events during the month
astral bobcat
Having t8+ be locked behind another purchase would be outright fraudulent.
granite zenith
you guys are still basing your math on the assumption that you will only earn 4200 points a day
you also get points for alliance events, you will get points for tiering the borg, and doing the missions as well... as wel as any other events
20k points from doing the missions when they unlock
astral bobcat
Yes, if you do all events i bet youll get ms10 long before the event is over.
granite zenith
20k points for tiering the borg
lethal quarry
Does anyone know how or where the A Voice in the Darkness mission begins?
granite zenith
civic sapphire
Does anyone have the mission rewards for borg mission ?
carmine lily
I love this! I absolutely love it! An event that can't be completed, a mission line that can't be started, An officer who does not drop in his special double recruit bonus, and a leaderboard that's rigged to favor alliances with more high level players. I've never gone from excited to dissapointed, angry, and bored this fast in my life. 🖕 Scopely!
hushed rock
@granite zenith I just read the faqs thing, thanks! So if I read it right you don't have to buy the packs in order to open the missions?
coarse holly
@carmine lily you must be new here
granite zenith
correct... doing the daily events will unlock all aspects of the reconnasence event... which in turn unlocks the missions and the officer
if you CHOOSE to pay in order to skip grinding the events you can... as well seperately you can CHOOSE to unlock the premium rewards in the event store
however doing all the events today will earn you 4200 borg credits... tier one is only 800 more credits
hushed rock
@granite zenith ahhhhhh, thanks so much, I really appreciate your help! 😘
granite zenith
the event can be completed in 23 days, the mission line can be started at tier 5, the officer does drop, a 2x chance is not a guarentee, even 2x pike didnt always drop for me, the leaderboard has always favored higher alliances, however your personal chance at getting credits is the same across the board for completeing the solo event
carmine lily
there are a lot of assumptions going on here that scopely is actually going to give us enough events with enough event currency to actually get the rewards or unlock the missions. If the Mirror Mirror event was any indication of how scopely runs these events I wouldn't hold yor breath on getting access without paying. We didn't even get a teaser this time, just the shaft.
granite zenith
and panic has plainly said this event is 100% grindable with no money
carmine lily
he said the same thing about mirror, but it was a lie.
candid monolith
Faq does not tell where the missions begin...
small sphinx
Yeah I can't even asking figure out how to start the event are there some place that you have to go to pick up the quest sorc what no instructions at whatsoever and on top of that greedy scopely what's more money as usual
candid monolith
I am lost..
granite zenith
the missions begin when you hit tier 5 of the reconnesance event... then you get the unlock keys
boreal geyser
Starts in Narendra
carmine lily
The missions begin when you pay $49.99+tax to unlock the 5th tier of the recon event.
granite zenith
you begin by doing your events every day until you hit tier 5 OR by choosing to skip the grind and buy points.
candid monolith
Thx.. silly me.. 🙈
carmine lily
roughly 12 days from now if you have faith.
granite zenith
you are assuming you can only earn 4200 points a day. the design is that the events we normally get like BFA will also give borg credits
its a 24 day event... its a marathon not a sprint
carmine lily
you CAN only get 4200 points a day, only BFG gives them and it gives 4200. Or there's cash.
unless you've saved up 2,000,000 ultra recruit tokens to try for that 0.001% chance of the new officer drop.
urban spire
Where can you spend the Epic Borg Reward Tokens? so far event store is only for Borg Premium Rewards 1-10
carmine lily
I'll give you one guess and you've already said the key word.
granite zenith
only bfg gives them today.... do you really expect 23straight days of bfg?
rapid sky
so if I get it right... to use event store you need to both grind AND buy a pack?
cause each item needs 2 tokens, pack only have 1 and event only have 1 of each
granite zenith
yes,,, its a PREMIUM event store
rapid sky
well it's not what Panic said yesterday lol... @abstract gate guess you were right 😂
to be fair, the amount of RSS/mats you get from the event store is massive for just 20$, but you also have to grind so let's see first how much of a grind it is to even get to the top ones
carmine lily
Forget the Borg, i'll take the 24 days of BFG at least it gives some decent rewards.
rapid sky
I doubt we gonna get 24 days of BFG
probably just normal events rotating and giving the borg thingies on top of normal rewards
granite zenith
and/or special Borg events
rapid sky
but at 4200/day, top reward is 225K so you need 53 days but it's only running for 23 🤷♂️
elder gyro
What are the nanopods for
granite zenith
promoting the borg
elder gyro
Really
granite zenith
yes
elder gyro
How tf we get them with out spending cash
rapid sky
there's also ind credits in the pack... if that's an indication of anything...
elder gyro
Really dumb move
rapid sky
so let's see... the borg mission chain unlocks at 48K points or 11+ days of events, but the event for completing those missions only runs for 9 more days
carmine lily
@rapid sky #557163704383438850 specificaly says BFG lasts 24 days. I know, I doubt it too, but that's what they wrote.
rapid sky
and let's not even talk about the officer shards...
@carmine lily nope, it says Borg Reconnaissance event (lasts 24 days long)
maybe I'm wrong and stuff like swarm sunday/ferengi monday will give those borg tokens on top of normal events
carmine lily
@rapid sky nope, it says Step 1 - Do the BFG events for Borg points (4,200 points each) - these collect points for Borg Reconnaissance event (lasts 24 days long)
rapid sky
well I think my version of it is more likely 😛
carmine lily
You're probably right, but taken as one statement, which it is, that's how i read it.
rapid sky
unless I'm missing something though, there's no way to even get to top rewards without spending extra cash (on top of the premium pack)
carmine lily
I made that assesment as well. exact same thing happened during the mirror event, could not get top rewards and the mission event timer ran out before you could acquire the materials to do it.
rapid sky
maybe I'm wrong and we're actually gonna get 24 days of events + also things like swarm sunday/ferengi monday give borg tokens and it's actually doable but somehow I doubt that
carmine lily
I'd prefer never to have mining events...ever. They always make the stupid mistake of adding a leaderboard to them which means nobody ever leaves a node. Stretches roe to the limit sometimes.
rapid sky
well I'm going on vacation for 1.5 weeks, was initially a bit annoyed as I wouldn't be able to grind borg events... but seeing how it's P2P I don't care anymore lol
granite zenith
no i was there when jess wrote that... it doesnt mean that the BFG is 24 days, it means that the events today can earn you 4200 points
rapid sky
I would have actually go ahead and bought the premium track thingie if they would have made it possible to get all the rewards
carmine lily
i'm kinda bored of it already, the whales are all gonna be discussing it and the rest of us will just avoid chat entirely because we can't be a part of it and by the time we get there it'll be old news and stale content because all the whales will have been running around with the new stuff for a week already.
granite zenith
while 750 people were asking every 30 seconds on how to start the missions
carmine lily
lol yeah, our AC blew up the same way.
granite zenith
i agree she needs to word it differently
doing the events every day, should (and i say should because i trust panic, but it is scopely) earn you more than enough tokens/points/credits whatever to unlock both the borg officer and the missions in enough time to complete them...
completing those two are 20k apiece
rapid sky
well you need 53 days at 4200/day, but there's only 23 days, so unless somehow they more than double out the borg points/day...
granite zenith
or the different events give more points, or we have multiple events like we have lately
rapid sky
or you have to suck it up and buy 2x50$ packs...
granite zenith
the reason she has the BFG listed is cause thats the question that was being asked today... Q:how do you get the missions, A: start by doing the bfg which will give you 4200points.
vestal wedge
thats more like it
rapid sky
actually you can't even do that.. limit is 1
granite zenith
step 2: do these or other borg events
because they dont have an event calendar as of yet
they being the Mods
rapid sky
so you can get 50K from the pack, another 80K from the mission chain (assuming you can actually complete it), and 96.6K from events, still not enough to get to the top reward at 225K
meager galleon
Even if we had an event calendar we can’t divulge 😔
granite zenith
but the main point is assuming that for the next 24 days you are doing either BFG or limited to 4200 points/day is a false assumption
meager galleon
I’d agree with that statement 🙂
granite zenith
in other news i finally broke 5m in rom faction
meager galleon
Having BfG for 24 days straight seems unlikely 🤷♂️
carmine lily
I'd tend to agree, it's far more likely that some future events will give LESS than 4200 points/day.
consistency has never been one of scopelys strong points.
weak garnet
How can i Start the borg Mission?
meager galleon
Please check #557163704383438850
carmine lily
this is going to be going on for at least 24 hours.
meager galleon
What is? Asking the same question 😊?
meager galleon
I’ve posted similar FAQ and info on our alliance discord so
Our AC just says “check Discord” 😈
carmine lily
Rule #1) If thou hast a question, thou shalt first refer to thine #faqs before asking aloud.
serene forum
are we able to finish this in 24d?
meager galleon
I believe that is the aim
serene forum
i did the math and we will stop at 146k points
meager galleon
That’s if you’re assuming that all future events during this arc run off the same point rewards
So your math time was wasted 😊
serene forum
it took 1 minute,so less then some people take
but lets wait and see if that is true about diferent points
carmine lily
don't forget there's points from the missions you eventually unlock as well as alliance leaderboard points.
serene forum
thats the reason that i asked if we will be able to finish
carmine lily
I'd say it's a definate maybe.
rapid sky
well missions unlock on day 11 or 12, mission event only have 9d to complete so 😂
serene forum
the first 10d of the mission rewards,for ftp people,its impossible
rapid sky
unless they double it up on swarm sunday/ferengi monday
serene forum
and im santa
rapid sky
but like everything scoeply we will be kept in the dark and have to guess/hope...
the best part will be we will get all those tokens which will stay in our inventory forever 😂
dense lantern
So, is it not possible to do the mission event without paying? Will take 11 days of battle event to get the tokens to unlock the missions, but the mission event will be over in just over 9 days?
serene forum
it probably restart after the 10d
i just hope it will be worth it after 12d waiting to start the missions
azure pecan
i’m assuming we have no way to know if the borg officer’s officer skill impacts the base ship stat or is cumulative with tpring and joaquin?
restive inlet
I have a question, if you finished step 1 from the borg reconnaissance, you get one! Reward token. But to get the first chest at the event store you need 2! You must buy to get the rewards from the event store, or did I miss something?
rare violet
Thats exactly how it works
rapid sky
@azure pecan probably adds to base values, exactly same as Joaquin as T'pring
they are all cumulative anyway
so say your base is 10K, you have 200% t'pring and Joaquin you get 250% extra or 35K
dapper drum
base values before any galaxy tech boost as well
shrewd totem
@restive inlet you dont have to buy packs.More events should come in those 24 days
restive inlet
@shrewd totem are you sure? 🤔
shrewd totem
The current Borg Season Arc will be running for 24 days total, there will be a multitude of different events cropping up through out the weeks with different reward structures.
If you participate in the events through out the course of the seasonal arc you will be able to unlock and complete the Borg Missions as well as acquire all the rewards from the events on offer.
Please note that Event Rewards and Store Rewards are separate things.
vestal wedge
he was asking about store rewards, and yes you have to buy a pack in order to use event store
restive inlet
Yes I’m asking about the event store because you need 2 reward token for one chest and the borg reconnaissance only gives one token...
granite zenith
yes the event store is a premium buy
with extra goodies...
you cannot get it with grinding only or with $$ only, but must do both
granite zenith
unless you want to pay to unlock the premium store, then yes,
restive inlet
They should do the half reward at the event store and you can get one chest for one token. I don‘t understand these logic 🤷♀️
granite zenith
its an optional PREMIUM bonus for paying to unlock it to get extra rewards
rapid sky
and the rest of us will just be stuck with useless items in our inventory 😂
to be fair as I said before, IF you can actually get to the top reward without buying any additional packs, it's great value for 20$
spiral forge
when the borg mission will start?
hardy parcel
Yeah you get the standard rewards but you can pay for more.
What I don't understand is the complaints.
You could get just as much from just buying a pack so it's not like they are getting anything special...
granite zenith
please please scroll up @spiral forge
abstract gate
Can’t access missions soon enough without paying-not a smart move
hardy parcel
Maybe. But you don't know that for sure
granite zenith
its a marathon 24 day event arc... not a race
abstract gate
I do
spiral forge
@granite zenith : i m kind of lazy and have already scroll up, but the info seems way up high😂
hardy parcel
No you don't, you've made an assumption based on current information. This is a 3 month event.
granite zenith
The current Borg Season Arc will be running for 24 days total, there will be a multitude of different events cropping up through out the weeks with different reward structures.
If you participate in the events through out the course of the seasonal arc you will be able to unlock and complete the Borg Missions as well as acquire all the rewards from the events on offer.
Please note that Event Rewards and Store Rewards are separate things
restive inlet
@spiral forge look at #557163704383438850
restive inlet
Btw you have no chance to get the rewards from the „an imminent threat“ without buying, or? 🤔 you need 12 days for the token to open the quest chain and the event only goes 9 days
granite zenith
you are assuming you can only get 4200 points every day... the events and reward totals may be alternating
you can only get 4200 points today... tomorrow could be different , or the next, or the next
eager hill
@granite zenith Your comment is as much of a speculation as others saying they won't be able to complete the borg recon event f2p. for short, we don't know for certain and knowing Scopely's greedy attitude I choose to be pessimistic.
eager hill
ok
granite zenith
tell ya what... if you do the events every day and dont make it by the end of the 24 days i'll admit I was wrong and you were right...
restive inlet
We will write in 24 days 😂
granite zenith
👍
dense lantern
The battle event is 12hr long, so you should be able to do this twice, so 8400 points per day?
If its repeated.
serene forum
if you are a ftp player you wont be able to the do imminent threat in the next 9d
restive inlet
No one battle for glory is 24h long. They started it later because of the update on the AppStore, that takes so long to goes online 😅🙈
@serene forum yes that’s right
serene forum
and only if they change the amounts of the rewards that you will finish borg reconnaissance event
restive inlet
👍🏻
serene forum
so,every ftp player needs to pray that this event isnt like the mirror event,where 2/3 of the missions were pay to play
restive inlet
The missions are f2p but the rewards aren‘t
serene forum
we will see about that
no ftp has started them yet
the mirror event was writen in the same way.
so,ill grind for 11d then ill see.if what they are saying is true
restive inlet
torn berry
Well we will find out within a couple days if f2p can complete the mission event
bronze laurel
Is the ”And you will know us part2” mission out yet or.....?
dapper drum
next month
abstract gate
floral trail
This Event is confusing as hell...
bronze laurel
Thanks again!👍🏻
stone grail
will it be a new mission key for each ark?
meager galleon
To be fair. It’s all in the in game news posts (the confusing parts)
floral trail
It just says to look at the events page. Pretty sure I cant unlock the missions until 48k points, which may take a while as a Ftp
I'm also not sure what the $20 pack offers in terms of actual useful rewards.
Its just really badly explained
vestal wedge
do some reading and check event store to see what rewards are offered
robust patio
Why do people feel the need to have everything explained to them step by step. All the answers are there if you look. There would be absolutely no challenge at all if everything was laid out for you.. step 1- kill X in A, step 2- Kill Y in B step 3 go to Z...
native vapor
abstract gate
Totally wrong. It should be Resistance IF futile
hollow oriole
we need a parody of the Borg that are emo - with some black eye liner and just shuffling around going 'Life is futile"
distant garnet
So it will take 6 days grind to open first mission and 27 days grind to get all rewards from the event. 27.....don't skip a day or a single event or your screwed. Toss your lives away folks.
weak copper
The BFG event doesn’t take long to complete
eager lava
its not exactly explained badly, the language is purposefully vague so they dont hafta come right out and say that youre gonna hafta cough up some money if you wanna play the new mission arcs in their entirety.
also, @weak copper is correct, it barely takes 15 minutes to clear the bfg event. the real question is whether or not enough of those events are gonna run to collect the 48,000 points needed
jolly mist
4200 point per daily bfg, needs 12 days if one does just solo bfg, plus any from alliance leaderboard and officer tier up event
distant garnet
bfg solo are 12 hour events, right? So you can do 2 in a day or did I get the event times wrong?
hybrid ibex
@distant garnet They are 24 hr events. They just started 6hrs late due to the update mess up yesterday.
floral trail
OK so do BFG event or spend money. . None of the packs in my store offer the 10 keys needed though. Profoundly confused.
stone grail
the key is in the 5th tier of recon event @floral trail
which you can instantly unlock using a pack in the store
floral trail
Ah ok... gotcha. . . I didnt explore the tiers as I presumed you would have to do the missions to get the points and without the missions how do you get the points..?
stone grail
by doing the BFG event
eventually after i think 12 days you will get to the tier needed
floral trail
Ah ok, thats assuming they have 12 days worth of BFG and not some half arsed armada event that no one can finish due to the slow refresh rate of armadas. . .
stone grail
Nah they will have it throughout, or some incarnation of event that produces the points
eager lava
225000points divided by 4200 points daily equals 53.5 days... each tier you will be 800 points short, you cant count on the alliance rewards because only the top 2 spots get enough points- 2 gets 800 and 1 gets 1000
That math only works out if, and thats a big if, if enough of the bfg events are even offered
hybrid ibex
To do the "imminent threat" event you need to have the missions, to get the missions you need to reach tier 5 on the "Borg Reconnaissance" event. Therefore as a free to play you will need to do the BFG for 10 days = 42k points, Have your alliance win the alliance event 4 times = 4k points and tier up the Borg officer once 2k points = 48k points total. Easy!
eager lava
you cant tier up the borg officer unless you have the borg officer, so you cant factor that into the equation
lawyered
floral trail
easy... or spend $50 😦
hybrid ibex
@eager lava you just finished an event that provided a lot of purple officer cards (I think I got over 9000) so there is lots of opportunity now to redeem them and get shards for the borg officer.
They even have a 2x officer chance on him
eager lava
already redeemed those, got shards for not the borg officer
hybrid ibex
Oh well. Thats the chance aspect of it for you. Theres always the store like Jim said above.
eager lava
random chance, even at 2x, is not opportunity
tawdry kindle
Yes, their way of offering packs for this specific borg event is elusive. Probly not even allowed by EU laws (no sarcasm here)
But how about stop complaining, and start playing 😋🍺
eager lava
you cant factor random chance into an equation for success
floral trail
I used all my tokens before he was available, I have no will power lol so hey.. maybe the mission ark gives him just have to get there first.
eager lava
i bet youre the kind of person who spends 50$ on lottery tickets, gets mad when you lose, goes out to the car briefly, then comes back and says - yeah, lemme get a buck sixety three on pump one, sorry its in pennies
@hybrid ibex
hybrid ibex
Oh God no. I dont gamble.
distant garnet
It's technically gambling if you think about it and lots of people are addicted to this game. They are feeding off peoples addictions to fill their pockets with cash.
eager lava
heh, im all caught up on all events, by the time i get off work theyll be available again
hybrid ibex
I just grind away.
distant garnet
don't think this company cares about you, they care about your wallet. That's it
unborn phoenix
Anyone know if BFG will go to 8hrs length later today? Or is it going to remain 24hrs?
hybrid ibex
I do horde stuff like tokens, officer xp, ship xp etc. I've played this game long enough to know that there will be an event that I will need them for.
If its 8hrs it will cut into their sales too much. My guess is it will be 24hrs and they might do a double event at the end to throw a bone to the free to play community but there is only an outside chance of that.
eager lava
if thats true, then you should also know how absurd it sounds when you suggest that upgrading an officer that you cant get via a guaranteed method is somehow part of a calculable formula
hardy parcel
Why are you assuming it's going to be the same event with the same points for 24 days?
hybrid ibex
Because it has never been anything else @hardy parcel except maybe once or twice a double event was thrown in.
hardy parcel
Lol. So you think bfg for 24 days? No chance.
hybrid ibex
But I agree that 24 days is too long. Theyve never done that before. It will change to something else after the current 10 day imminent threat event closes
floral trail
The alliance event runs for two days, so my bet is two days of BFG then either mining or armadas
hardy parcel
What they probably will do is add Borg points to every event for the next 24 days.
hybrid ibex
Maybe there will be a borg transwarp conduit with Jaylah, augment missions and the "early access" mirror mirror missions on the other end. 😂
hardy parcel
Now you are being unrealistic. You know full well we are getting a mil epic directives and a borg cube 🤣🤣
hardy parcel
🤣🤣
hybrid ibex
But seriously there will definitely be mining as the officer is a mining officer and there are "Active nano probes" as part of the top tier of rewards an the tool tip says they are obtained from refining "inert nano probes" so there is definitely mining coming soon. What the nano probes are used for who knows, probably the upgrade currency for the officers.
tidal locust
There will be different events through out the month not bfg all month. They already announced that
Nano probs are used for upgrading first level of borg officers
rapid sky
@hybrid ibex yep, you need both nanoprobes and IND credits to upgrade him
floral trail
They'll probably be new officers as well, Borg Queen maybe?
tidal locust
After first level you need nano and aug
rapid sky
good luck getting 20K of those to max him
tidal locust
There will be other officers already confirmed. No idea who
floral trail
Ugh Indy credits? Man I need to mine data again
hybrid ibex
dammit, I blew all my independent credits on upgrading Kahn. lol
floral trail
@hybrid ibex Same..
hybrid ibex
Independent credits are already too constrained. All my Augments can be upgraded but it will take me 2 years to get the credits.
kind roost
I should not be surprised about the number of people that want to be spoon fed in this game. It’s exhausting to see how many people ask ‘How do I get the new missions?’
rapid sky
also when maxed he only goes to 50% protected... so not really worth it
dapper nest
spent 30K ultra credits and got 11 borg officer shards yay
floral trail
50% protected is that all?
Not to mention the agro you need to go through to get him leveled, keys etc. TPring is 300% isnt she?
rapid sky
yep
ripe jolt
Is there a minimum level to compete in Battle of Glory Solo Event ?
stone grail
hm so you can't get full solo points even with mission chain, i'm presuming max points will be attainable without buying point booster packs
hardy parcel
Hmmm can we get the BFG recruit chest please? Got enough trophies already 🙏
languid cove
Looks like the Borg assimilated some Ferangi
latent tiger
Apologies if this has already been summarized, not trying to be condescending...
INCOMING TRANSMISSION
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
#1 Do Battle For Glory Event* (kill any reds) this rewards you with borg points which are needed for...
#2 Borg Recon event. This is a MONTH LONG EVENT so will unfold slowly. You can purchase borg points in the store to speed it up. When you get to tier 5 (48K Borg points) you will get the 10 BORG MISSION KEYS which you need for...
#3 BORG MISSION CHAIN which you can "purchase" in the store using the BORG MISSION KEYS from #2.
* The Borg Recon Event will also give you Premium rewards which you can't use UNLESS you purchase the Premium Unlock package in the store.
END TRANSMISSION
languid cove
But the only rewards that are good cost $20 to access even if you somehow complete the borg recon event, which is impossible
hardy parcel
Impossible today yeah. Why dont you hold off complaining until we actually know whether it is possible rather than just assuming?
stray tide
How do i use the active nanoprobe?
barren night
Those are used to upgrade 1 of 10
merry fulcrum
Do they replace credits of badges?
stone grail
needs independant credits by the looks of the packs
barren night
Seems to be an added step
stone grail
as if we didn't have enough issues promoting aug officers 😢
merry fulcrum
At least you can get credits as a free to play, now.... Can you get a lot of badges?
honest egret
Has anyone else noticed that the last stage of the battle for glory trophies aren't being added to alliance event total?
rapid sky
well he also needs a badge at level 15 like all other rares @merry fulcrum ...
languid cove
@hardy parcel well I was never able to do the mirror events so pretty sure scopely has decided not to put out new content without inserting a paywall
This time it’s $70
hardy parcel
Well we may still see the rest of the mirror event.
They never said when and it was only a short time ago.
languid cove
And I have got every single possible D’vor bp, I’m 103/120
hardy parcel
@languid cove and in 60 days you can have one then 🤷♂️
languid cove
I don’t know why you are defending them, but it’s weird. I’ve never seen a game so actively gouge a player base
hardy parcel
Don't get me wrong, they certainly do. But let's complain about stuff that is factually wrong rather than messing up our argument by complaining about stuff that isn't broke?
languid cove
I think having a giant event that requires AT MINIMUM $20 to take part in is broke. I’m all for the making money, but this is how you kill a game
hardy parcel
@languid cove again, no. You can take part with $0
languid cove
No you can’t, you need the $20 pack to get the rewards
rapid sky
you still get rewards even without the pack
you just can't use the event store
all the milestones give a token and some other goodies
hardy parcel
@languid cove no you don't, you need the pack to get EXTRA rewards.
Which is actually a really really common thing in mobile games.
eager lava
funny how the updates always break some vital part of the game, except for the store, i never hear about any problems with the purchasing portion of the game
languid cove
You can’t do imminent threat without first getting 48k borg things, you can only earn 42000 in the 10 days plus alliance rewards which 1st place every 2 days is....47,000
eager lava
for the last half a year weve been experiencing varying degrees of issues with being stuck in battle and no real solution being mentioned, yet when the refinery was puttin out like a drunken prom date they went out of their way to fix it by the next day
hardy parcel
@languid cove you are assuming you will get the same points every day. Let's complain after we have all the facts. ..
languid cove
If you don’t think it matters...I was going to put in $100 this week, I’m not doing that now.
hardy parcel
@eager lava not the next day. They fixed it within 20 minutes.
languid cove
Or is the only way to get enough to complain and they fix it?
It’s their game, they can fck it up if they want to. But unless you want to have every server with 200 whales and 0 other players they need to back off these tactics
eager lava
@hardy parcel oh, my mistake, its been a while back, and i actually did t even know about the issue until the news bulletin the following day, but it looks like youre on board with the point i made
hardy parcel
@eager lava it is a running joke now. 🙈
eager lava
heh, yeah, one they never come back from
hardy parcel
There was a beautiful vid on it. I'll see if I can find it. .
stone grail
the hitler scene one?
eager lava
but hey, at least computer users wont be missing out on those juicy speedups, and can finally use the keypad to enter the exact number they want to use, since apparently allot of people cant figure out how a slider works
rapid sky
the way I see it, you do normal events to get borg points which allows you to "participate" in the main event and at some point also do the missions and maybe even get the officer, so basically it's a side event like domination/replicator etc.
eager lava
@hardy parcel pm me the link if you find it
rapid sky
as for upgrade borg officer/finish the missions events, wouldn't be the first time they gated events behind a paywell, can't be bothered, just ignore them
languid cove
It is what it is, but I’m not putting money into a game that is acting like it’s dying. If they are seeing the numbers go down I would probably try and squeeze that orange harder too
stone grail
not sure it's acting like it's dying 🤔
i mean new content is being developed and released, not the signature of a dying game really is it?
hardy parcel
Nope, just business as usual for a mobile game.
Maybe the problem is trying to hold this to the same standards as a pc/console game?
languid cove
If they have to be more aggressive on obtaining revenue because of a smaller base of users. Not saying that’s happening, but it’s either that or flat out greed
They passed PC games months ago, no PC game takes $300 for one component on a ship. Shockingly I don’t even have a problem with that
hardy parcel
The gouging is pretty standard for this type of game unfortunately 😞
languid cove
They are going for a pretty high scale though. It’s not equivalent but candy crush is like $10 a month not $400
floral trail
I guess the jury is out, the new officer doesnt seem that great, and I am not sure what I 'get' from purchasing the packs other than earlier access to the missions, which I am not sure what they give. From a buyer point of view, I need to know what I am getting before I part with my hard earned latinum
rapid sky
well the 20$ you pay for the event store gives about 2/3 value of a 100$ pack... so that's an improvement if you can actually get all the rewards with only the one pack
languid cove
Which...is unlikely at this point
rapid sky
yep, that we have to wait and see
stone grail
you can get just under halfway after doing missions and getting initial £50 pack
the rest will have to be officer mission (if you buy / unlock him) or more BfG events
to obtain the 233k or so
rapid sky
the 50$ pack doesn't give you access to the event store
hybrid ibex
@languid cove you counted one too many alliance rewards in your calculation. You counted 5 but you will only have 4 usable alliance events in that time. You wont be able to use the last one to bring you to the 47k total for the event as the alliance event finishes at the same time as the Imminent threat event. If it follows the current scheduling. Plus you wouldnt have time to do the missions anyway if it finished a little earlier.
winged tulip
At rank 6+ there's also epic Borg reward tokens which i can't see where you hand in yet
floral trail
Its all very missleading and confusing. I get that I need to get 48k points to unlock the missions but then what. Its not clear from all the zillions of packs what they are peddling to me and how far it will get me. Even the 50 quid pack only gives you half the tokens you need to unlock the rewards from the event store so how do you get the others? Its like Scopely saying hey, give us some money and well like maybe give you some stuff
floral trail
maybe..
languid cove
@hybrid ibex I was actually trying to err on scopely’s side
winged tulip
Yeah I'd be a lot happier with all of this with an event schedule showing what points you can get and when - at the moment it's easy to assume that f2p will get boned missing out on half the events and missions
languid cove
@floral trail the $50 pack is helpful, but you need the $20 pack as well
stone grail
it's possible the pay2win will lose out too unless they do all the bfg rotations
hybrid ibex
Do you need all the packs?
stone grail
packs will only get you so far up the recon solo
winged tulip
Lets put aside the big client release saying Borg are here when there's no Borg ships we can attack or missions/events focused on actually killing them yet..
stone grail
90k borg points from the £50 pack and the 2 £18.99 ones combined
jaunty sonnet
Where can I spend epic Borg reward tokens?
abstract gate
at the end of the 3 month arc
jaunty sonnet
Ta
stone grail
is it end of 3 month or end of every month?
weak copper
Think it’s the end of the 3 months. Panic should really post a clear explainer so people can decide whether they want to purchase the packs or not
This is a completely new way of introducing new content into this game and most people are scratching their heads trying to understand it
hardy parcel
Just read the news and the announcement. It's all there. 🤷♂️
weak copper
See the discussion just above. People are explaining how they interpret it but no one seems to know for sure. They need to make it clearer. I think I understand it but Others seem to have different interpretations of particular aspects
cloud grail
Lmao folks trying to sort out what scopely has designed to be obfuscated
eager lava
its like going to the doctors... your premium paid up? cool, thatll get ya started, lets just run some tests, wait a while, run some more tests, wait a while, do some treatments, some more tests, and some more treatments, dont worry youll find out what it costs about six months after the fact, it takes the bean counters a while to add up all those nickel and dimes.... oh, also, not once will you be seen at your appointed time no matter how early you arrive every time
crimson walrus
@eager lava the Canadian in me doesn't understand this paying for tests 🤣
abstract gate
Would be nice to know what the epic tokens will unlock and wether its worth spending to get them
eager lava
@crimson walrus --the american in me is jealous of this
abstract gate
Would be nice to get any information at all...standard scopely tactic of exploiting peoples fear of missing out by deliberately staging events with apparently unobtainable milestones whilst simultaneously offering packs that make those milestones reachable
Their coders are garbage but their psychologists are top notch
3 months, money spent to get the epic tokens, then reward is a another bad officer or some uc res 🤔
Not sure why we cant see what we are working to win tbh at the end
@abstract gate read my last post and you've got your answer
eager lava
the reward isnt even the officer, its a 2x random chance of may e eventually getting the officer
any body get jaylah or pike yet?
abstract gate
Got the borg officer from recruit tokens 😂
Not got jayleh, i imagine got to wait for swarm missions to come back
Gl promoting him...independent credits
Tbh i dont like this borg dude. Prob wont use him
shrewd totem
Using him as cap in an Ent will be perfect
abstract gate
A third protected cargo officer is always nice, especially when it's officer ability not captain manoeuvre
Joe cargo as captain with t'pring and the borg is a helluva lot of protected lat if you're on a roe server
near vector
The borg is good at begin is like Joaquin plus another of his mates.
sour plover
whats the event today??
rapid sky
@abstract gate actually, he starts at 30% when a 2nd augment gives you 25%, so unless you're gonna promote him the difference is minimal
of course you could use him on a 2nd/3rd ship
near vector
I tried protected cargo switching borg with one of the mates is pratically identical
However another officer with protected cargo ability is really usefull
rapid sky
well that's probably the rounding up... 25% and 30% you don't know the exact amount of protected you have
near vector
We need now a borg with boost to warp range like scotty 🙂
rapid sky
so if you take for example a fully tiered envoy got 10200 as base, add joaquin it's 15300, add a 2nd augment it's 17850, add the borg one and it's 18350, probably both rounded to 18K
near vector
I think is rounded at thousand value so also if there're hundreds the real value is the same
forest fiber
Yes rounded to the nearest thousand
near vector
T'pring T2 + Joaquin + Borg on an envoy with 12k become 30k! (with galaxy ability T1)
abstract gate
Anyone know how the Borg officer bonus scales with promos?
dim topaz
@languid cove It depends on your level -- at Level 24, I can only get 31 1M Trit tokens from all Prem Rewards~
dull jackal
someone knows how to start the missions borj ?
wind plaza
Buy the mission keys
granite zenith
do events until milestone 5 in borg reconnoscence
wind plaza
Which will take 11 more days of finishing the borg daily
granite zenith
if your assumptive math is correct
but it is also a 23 day event... no need to rush
wind plaza
4200 a day, you need 48k to hit milestone 5
near vector
Usually there're 3 BFG a day if i remember well, only once then?
wind plaza
anyone else notice how scopely made the two other borg events that rely on you getting the keys which they set behind a wall of a min of 10 days or you spend money to end right before you can get them UNLESS you spend money?
sharp cairn
the event is designed to drive away players not willing to invest large amounts
granite zenith
completely disagree... it is designed to help the free to play players... prove me wrong... do your events every day then tell me it cant be done
languid cove
Well unless they give more than 4200...
wind plaza
I can tell you right now that unless you pay money you can not do the event An Imminent Threat
wind plaza
I don't have to. look at the numbers
granite zenith
you are assuming you can only earn 4200 a day...
languid cove
Well this is the second day and it’s 4200 again
ashen wharf
and maybe alliance every 2
granite zenith
ok... do you know what total the 3rd and 4th day are?
ashen wharf
the extra tiny bit for alliance
wind plaza
Do you?
granite zenith
do you really think that there is going to only be Battle for Glory for 24 days? C'mon
ashen wharf
every 2 days if your alliance gets top you get 5200
languid cove
Look, they fcked over the free people with the mirror stuff as well, this isn’t new
quiet patio
What abou the gold trophy things? We can’t spend them this time?
granite zenith
but this model of pay to skip grinding is... THIS is their trial... lets see if they can get it right? the way it stands, the only thing its costing you is the time to do the event, and you ARE doing events anyways right?
wind plaza
based on the money hungry tactics Scopely has used in the past, Yes. I think they are going to be the same values no matter what the event is.
granite zenith
you may be right, but do you lose anything by trying it?
sharp cairn
Time will tell Grayson. So far unless you get the $20 pack AND complete the missions to collect borg points, the premium rewards are not available to you. If you dont get those, obtaining the one of ten character and leveling him is a long shot. tied to another trackc of the event. You MIGHT get to play at least one of the missions after 11 days of grinding the hostiles. Not designed for free to play. Nope
wind plaza
pay to skip grind? Its pay to win. Even if you do the grind you CANT DO IT
granite zenith
so are you giving up without trying?
languid cove
This is a new p2p, pay to participate
ashen wharf
hes a hopless brown nose theres no conversating with him lol
granite zenith
cause if everyone gives up then the trial will surely fail
and ichbe is a hopeless troll 🤷
wind plaza
the only troll here seems to be you Nightwing
languid cove
This is the armada/mirror darkly model. If you don’t want to throw a hundo around you might as well log off
granite zenith
i will be the FIRST person to say if I cannot do it based purely on events, but I'm at least willing to try, to wait and see, and have a little faith
devout talon
I'm ok grinding it out without spending.
If you have time, you might not have the disposable income.
If I had money to spare, I'd be happy to skip the grind.
wind plaza
have faith in scopely? Have you not been playing?
languid cove
But they have done this before...why would you think this is different?
timid quiver
granite zenith
yes i have since month 2, and they have made massive improvements since the beginning
ashen wharf
the max you can get in the full 24 days is 100,800 if you get them everyday
- 8000 if you max the new borg officer + 20,000 completing the missions
granite zenith
and im willing to try because I do the events daily anyways, whats the difference, if i fail it cost me nothing, if i succeed then i gain everything
sharp cairn
Oh, I'll grind the hostiles and see where that gets me. Not giving these wombats at scopely more than a few bucks alongs the way through. $20 - I'll bite on a pack that makes sense. $50 - $100 NOPE
granite zenith
that all I as a player ask... try, heck save your money til later after you have more confidence. it says on the Giant TV that you can wait to unlock the premium pack
wind plaza
#Nightwing>Batman You are one of those people that just go on blind faith no matther how hard the evidence proves it wrong arn't you?
languid cove
Still thinks Iraq has WMDs
granite zenith
no but when someone says they are making a change i give them enough rope to hang themselves, especially when it costs me nothing in return
granite zenith
In game information
languid cove
A token plus a 20 lol
granite zenith
all im saying is wait and see, do the events... if im wrong.. all it cost me is the time i spent doing events i would be doing anyways
wind plaza
RIGHT THERE! It even says you can't redeem anything UNLESS you pay money
granite zenith
if you want the PREMIUM rewards which requires a PREMIUM, thus the word PREMIUM, the regular event rewards are distributed at each milestone... everyone can earn X... you can pay a fee to get x+y
granite zenith
they are trying something new... give it a chance
ashen wharf
but youll support it either way
languid cove
A new way to take your money...
languid cove
Also. The rewards are questionable at best
granite zenith
until im proven wrong, yes i will support it... and yes this is still a for profit business the end goal is still to make money
languid cove
granite zenith
then choose not to do the events, you have always had that choice
languid cove
For $70 anyway
granite zenith
but dont choose not to try, then complain that its behind a paywall
edgy yacht
This borg mission will take 10day to unlock to key. Inless you pay some money
ashen wharf
we have a right to complain
wind plaza
I find it comical that you keep saying prove me wrong. Scopely has proven you wrong durring every event and you still don't beleive it
ashen wharf
lmao
granite zenith
yet this is something new they are trying... let them try it...
wind plaza
The events themself may be new but its the same thing with a new face
ashen wharf
and guess what
granite zenith
then i will be proven wrong...
ashen wharf
mirror stuff still in your inventory
wind plaza
you already are
granite zenith
we will see
ashen wharf
🤣
wind plaza
we already have
blazing nymph
Is the Borg event bugged? I don't see any way to get the second token to get the rewards in the event store.
ashen wharf
lets give out tokens each tier that free to play cant use
for reasonss?
@blazing nymph you have to pay for the second token
wind plaza
@blazing nymph and even if you get the second token without paying you have to pay to use them
abstract gate
If event rewards stay on this trend maxing the main event will be impossible not even sure it's possible if you buy all the borg points packs available
ashen wharf
its possible o max if you pay
granite zenith
the key word is IF
ashen wharf
the immenent threat is only 8 days
wind plaza
no, the key word is PAY
abstract gate
90% of the playerbase won't be able to do the officer event as it needs 1000's of independent credits to tier him up
granite zenith
tell yall what... ill make you a deal... if im right yall have to be positive for a month, if i'm wrong then i'll quit the server
abstract gate
Cya
ashen wharf
they are literally splitting each borg officer up for people to pay for
🤣
suckers are easy
simple spear
Anyone else noticed that by the time you've earned enough points to complete the borg mission event, that event will be over?
ashen wharf
yep
wind plaza
Thats been the entire conversation
ashen wharf
noticed it yesterday
hardy parcel
Assuming the rewards are linear. Let's hope not.
ashen wharf
if the events were every 16 hours like we thought it would have been possible
simple spear
Even if you win top alliance every two days. Yeah it might change
ashen wharf
but only top alliances will get there "possibly"
abstract gate
If it was doable in the timeframe allotted they wouldn't have event point packs
hardy parcel
We will see.
Will you still get the missions?
Yep.
Will you still get event rewards?
Yep.
So what's to lose?
ashen wharf
um ?
simple spear
You won't get event rewards from the borg missions possibly
abstract gate
Without the 20k points from the mission event top milestone is not reachable
simple spear
🤷♂️
abstract gate
Also needed will be the 20k points from the officer event and that's nigh impossible unless you already have a stockpile of independent credits (you don't)
past flower
Just asking for clarification: is the current event store related to the Borg arc off limits to non paying players? Or is there a way to redeem these later on?
ashen wharf
yes it is off limits unless you pay
hardy parcel
@past flower you need a second set of tokens which you must buy if you want the ADDITIONAL rewards.
ashen wharf
abstract gate
Its 3 sets of events and afaik the tokens carry over so IF you max it 3 times as f2p you get to claim rewards 1.5 times
ashen wharf
thinking tokens carry over
and they wont change them to another type
have you not learned
lol
past flower
Ok, thanks for some clarification. Hopefully it will carry over.
abstract gate
So buying one unlock pack gets you 2 claims over the 3 cycles
hardy parcel
The point is this.
You all are blasting an event saying it is pay to play before we are even 1/10 of the way through it. You don't know what the next event is or how many points you will get.
So let's calm down and complain when we have all the FACTS.
abstract gate
Given scopely's penchant for withholding information we won't have all the facts until it's too late
smoky cosmos
How do you start this
cosmic sage
back out and scroll a bit to the right
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf it really doesn't. It says PREMIUM rewards.
You can still play and get the standard rewards.
@smoky cosmos complete other events to earn borg points once you have around 48k then you will receive a mission token to start the chain.
smoky cosmos
hybrid ibex
At the current rate of points availability assuming it continues then a free to play player wont get enough point to do the Imminent threat event
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf ok. Show me the words pay to play?
smoky cosmos
So I must first shoot a couple of days then I could start the missions
cosmic sage
yes
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf show me where you literally cannot do the milestones without paying.
I will wait.
hybrid ibex
11 to 12 days depending on how well your alliance does in the alliance events
hardy parcel
@hybrid ibex assume nothing
low heath
Event is 22 days, so sure there will be plenty of opportunities to collect more than enough to start f2p
hybrid ibex
@low heath but not the imminent threat event
ashen wharf
immeinent threat cant be done since it only has 8 days left
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf you are making an assumption. I want facts.
You said I cannot read. Go on show me where it says pay to play.
smoky cosmos
Oke solo shooting cost me 5 till 10 minutes then I have shoot 780 point
ashen wharf
if you arent in a top alliance you wont get enough points before imminent threat ends
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf where.
abstract gate
@hardy parcel using the facts available @ashen wharf is right
smoky cosmos
No I'm not in a top alliance
hardy parcel
You said literally pay to play.
cosmic sage
making an assumption about how the event pays out daily isn't a fact
hybrid ibex
If you are in top alliance you still cant get enough points @ashen wharf at least not without levelling up the new officer aswell
hardy parcel
@abstract gate again you are making an assumption. Based on FACTS you cannot complain until you know if it is possible or not. 🙈🙈
hybrid ibex
extrapolating based on all previous events is a valid methodology and in the absence of anything else is the only course of action.
ashen wharf
alright when we get to the final day of imminent threat
hardy parcel
You are extrapolating and assuming but that is not FACT.
cosmic sage
we only have the payouts for one event to extrapolate on
abstract gate
Never argue with idiots they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
hybrid ibex
@cosmic sage 3 now. 2 Battle for glory and 1 alliance event
ashen wharf
yeah 3
hardy parcel
2 out of 24 days
cosmic sage
the alliance event is still the same from yesterday
ashen wharf
were not talking about the 24 day one
hybrid ibex
another day to see how the 2 day cycle rolls over should give us more clarity
cosmic sage
but I mean different types of events
ashen wharf
imminent threat is not doable in 8 days
cosmic sage
of course the payouts for battle for glory are going to be the same
hardy parcel
@ashen wharf still waiting 🤣
hybrid ibex
@cosmic sage why thats just assuming
hardy parcel
You are assuming linear rewards.
hybrid ibex
they have done double reward events in the past.
cosmic sage
I'm assuming what?
hybrid ibex
you said of course they are the same. But why is it "of course"?
cosmic sage
why would you expect the payouts to be different for the same event
hybrid ibex
that would be an assumption
hardy parcel
Ok, you go back to complaining about something that may or may not happen.
I'll just go and enjoy the game 🤣🤣
abstract gate
And you guys appear to be assuming scopely is some kind of altruistic benefactor...they are scummy, greedy hacks
hybrid ibex
why wouldnt they be. Until it rolls around you dont know for sure
cosmic sage
it's not an assumption the event has already restarted
hybrid ibex
indeed it has started so your "of course" assumption was confirmed
ashen wharf
i just cant wait to prove that most wont even get to the missions by the time imminent threat ends
cosmic sage
so tell me again what i'm assuming?
hybrid ibex
If there is a BFG event tomorrow will the rewards be "of course" the same
ashen wharf
seya in 8 days ill probably screen shot it and bring it up anytime you say anything
low heath
The missions can all be done in less than an hour. So 8 days can yield the 48k needed to start if you complete the BFG and whats to come.
hybrid ibex
sounds like you have a little insight the rest of us dont have. Care to elaborate. Or at least hint a little more.
ashen wharf
if they are all bfg though
im betting data event is coming back
cant wait for that cluster f**
abstract gate
There will be armadas and probably mining too...24 days is lot for just bfg
hybrid ibex
no way will there be BFG for 24 days.
hybrid ibex
there'll be an epic armada ladder event or something thrown in. 😂
abstract gate
Although 24 days of bfg is fine by me, takes me 22mins including warp
I have the mission token, but no mission chest to unlock the missions, response I received from scopely customer support was vague and not specific to what I was showing them i.e. having mission token but no mission chest to start missions, anyone have a clue?
meager galleon
Random questions just to check.. have you updated your game? Have you scrolled all the way across the gifts tab Incase it’s at the end? Done some restarts ?
abstract gate
I've updated game, I'm on android so we got the update first and updated app, cleared cache, restarted phone and did the circle dance too lol - last chest to the right is still showing 30 day chest, no borg mission chest in sight.
hybrid ibex
ashen wharf
what someone told me where the first mission is
abstract gate
I don't think so, there's a chest to open I believe, at least from what I've seen in other photo's
hybrid ibex
Mission chain should be in the gifts sectikn
ashen wharf
the mission token is different from the mission chain
abstract gate
I have 10 borg mission keys and 1 mission token - still no chest
hybrid ibex
the screenshots shared by @abstract gate clearly show he has the 10 mission tokens but no chest in the gift section to start the missions
hybrid ibex
I think his problem is he has the keys but nowhere to put them
ashen wharf
yeh
might be bugged for a few might have to do the mission token first and it shows it?
i think the mission token is for a voice of darkness if im not mistaken
yeah
which is in naredra from what i was told
abstract gate
But the borg mission key is for the mission chest, and I have the borg mission key but no chest
ashen wharf
have you done the "A voice in the Darkness" mission maybe its bugged for you so you have to do that first
abstract gate
There's no (!) showing any mission there and I'm currently mining in that same system, with no highlight to show I should go anywhere
ashen wharf
yeah probably just gotta contact CS then
abstract gate
Where did you get the token? I didn't get that...
It's in the rewards for 48K points in the event
Hmm does it get used when you do the mission?
I wish I could answer that question LOL I haven't done anything or even received the chest to unlock the missions
ashen wharf
Probably have to find the mission location i thought it was in narendra..
Are you over level 25 btw
abstract gate
nope lvl 18
ashen wharf
Thats why..
stray tide
😂
fervent folio
Yeah, the news in-game for the event states clearly that the missions are recommended for 25+
abstract gate
scopely recommends lvl 25+ for the missions - not to gain access to the missions
I'm 35, I've done the milestone and opened the "gift" did all those missions
ashen wharf
Yeah but im pretty sure they locked it for 25 and over...
abstract gate
they would have said that, why even offer it in the event reward if they locked it for lvl 25?
Don't remember one called a voice in the darkness...no token in my inventory
ashen wharf
They do this alot iron lol
hybrid ibex
Recommended and mandatory are two different things. Its very dodgy to sell a pack in order to get access to missions you cant do.
abstract gate
☝️ exactly
stray tide
Only way to start the mission is to pay?
abstract gate
To be fair the pack doesn't explicitly state it's for unlocking the mission
hybrid ibex
only way to start the mission today is to pay.
@abstract gate but the launch doesnt say the missions are restricted by level. But they are.....
abstract gate
It's contents are conveniently enough to start the mission
plain crown
Or grind dailies to get enough Borg points to reach tier 5 of Borg recon event
stray tide
But the event is gone before you can grind points for it close
hybrid ibex
maybe maybe not. tomorrows events may have more points. Who knows.....
Theres always a pack you can purchase. Just make sure you pick the right one for what you want. If you want to do the missions its a "points pack" you need. the "premium rewards pack" does not get you the missions. The nano probe packs are officer focussed.
And as IronQaw discovered they will sell you a points pack but you wont be able to cash in the mission tokens until you are level 25. (if you are not already that is)
stray tide
Yes i know, i guess i just wait and see how fare i get and then put in some money, if needed
hybrid ibex
Very sensible. Wait a few days and see how it evolves and decide then what to spend on.
upper knot
Any idea if the battle for glory part is going to repeat every day or will that part get changed up?
abstract gate
Almost definitely will be rotated out for other events...24 days of bfg is lazy even by scopely's standards and that's a really low bar
eager lava
@abstract gate ---to be fair, when i started dating my girlfriend, i never explicitly stated that i wouldnt sleep with her sister or mother, but she insists that the implication that i wouldnt do that was clearly there and that she has avery right to be displeased with my behavior... shes just being an unreasonable jerk about the whole thing
why is everybody complaining about "the grind"... its 40 hostiles, i just cleared it in one run, about 21 minutes(which includes the 8 minutes travel to the system, not counting the trip home)
@lvl 24 its no trouble, so its kinda weird to see a bunch of high lvls in gc complaining about having to wreck 40 easy hostiles in a row
fathom shale
What are one of tens's abilitys? The description Makes No sense in my language...
nova valley
@fathom shale his officer ability is increasing your protected cargo limit. think of it as a borg enhancement to your cargo holds.
fathom shale
Thanks @nova valley but i tried that and the protected Cargo didnt Change...
nova valley
ohhhhhhh snap @fathom shale i need screenshots. PLEASEfor the love of god tell me that this BRAND SPANKING NEW officer isn't bugged LMAO
send me a screenshot of protected WITHOUT tpring and WITHOUT 1 of 10.
then send me SS of protected WITH ONLY 1 of 10.
then you can send it to me with both 1 of 10 and tpring.
fathom shale
Tried it again, seems Like He works alone, but Not together with Joaquin. Have to Recall Ships to try it with/Out tpring @nova valley
abstract gate
It's official, level 18's don't get access to borg mission chest. Scopely just replied to my message.
Clearly when they said "recommended for 25+" they meant MANDATORY
nova valley
@abstract gate i would like a screenshot of that as well.
i'm gathering EVERYTHING for the f2p path of the borg events. EVERYTHING. fill my PM/DM box. i want ANYTHING yoyu want to conbribute. ANYTHING you want to change
abstract gate
My second question was about the 2x ultra pulls for the borg being broken, I used 20k tokens and only got 13 shards out of 250, that's a 5.2% return for the borg officer, far from 2x pulls
nova valley
the 2x ONLY means that you have "double" the chance at pulling him... based on the orignal values.... sooooo if the original value was .025% lmao, then you can still double it. the 2x is a marketing gimmick, that really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
the more important part of this is that the screenshot DOES NOT specifically mention a level... where did you get the 25 thing?
abstract gate
I got that from the event message in game, it says "recommended level 25+" , could be a lower level, but scopely is tight lipped about what that level really is.... We'd need to check every level and see if they have the chest or not
nova valley
i saw the recommended thing in the news center. but we don't know that's a hard line. we need to figure out the exact cut off.
any level 19-22 that can help out?
midnight pelican
Scopely business is make the f2p route as convoluted as they can reasonably get away with so that people get impatient and spend money to get access so they don't have to go through all the BS of even trying to figure out the ridiculous f2p maze
abstract gate
Why scopely wouldn't just SAY clearly what level gets the chest is just weird, you can call it marketing, but if you went to an amusement park and when you paid the ticket you found out that you were too short to ride any of the rides, you'd demand your money back, they should have the limitation before participation clearly stated
crisp kernel
So at 4200 Borg points per day from glory or whatever comes tomorrow it will take 53 days to Max Borg recon. 43 days if your alliance places 1st every day and gets the 1k bonus points.