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and lvl 26 reg hostile is 20 points. 96 kills total to reach my max number of points required
lvl 28 is 20 points
no system provides enough miners to even try and compensate for the requirements to make it easy
miners?
easy kills not on the triangle
yea. ill stick to red triangles they are plentiful
Only 300 level 28 kills to make at level 24 π
only
Or 1900 level 27
with waht lvl ships?
Uhm mine are 133 NS and 109 vaklas
ouch
So not powerfull enough
you are gonna struggle more than me
Have to kill 450 lvl30
F-k you devs. I literally don't have the resources or repair time to kill enough ships (let alone the high level 20 point ships). I already can't accomplish faction dailies for the same reason. Just goes to show this game is geared towards the p2w crowd who can drop a few hundred buying and upgrading ships. I've bought a few packs in the past before i knew what a greedy pos company this was but no more.
Just checked i need 10 million trit , 1.5 million dill, 2000 3* envoy parts and a lot of gas to upgrade my 130k NS
quit the ns while u still can lol
So based on my server i would say never gonna happen
not worth it
its only use is to open up far out systems
or to die when going augment space
Well kumari is way off tbh
i thought it was....
ns is good higher you tier and its repair costs are minimal compared to other ships
Why canβt i pay for the uncommon with latinum
cos thats the way its designed
if it was all available to be done with lat ships would be easily built quickly
And people would keep playing the game
Currently it is two slow
its freaky seeing a lvl 19 with a 55k jelly as it is
That could be solved by linking upgrade to base levels
true
And also the other way around
but means missons would have to be lowered
im sitting on a dozen kill missons with 300k enemy ships
with only a 179k kumari...not possible
the games stagnated for most non payers right now
And nobody to raid it from
well as from today no i cant either
They should multiple warehouse and vault by 10
And let the generator be more part of the generating of resources
the generator should be continuos...
no cap
refine rates sould be increased by least 10% or more
make it more sensible
revert the pvp lvls back
least the non payers stand a little better chance of suceeding
They should limit the higher pvp levels
Why can a level 33 with a 500k enterprise **** my base
Not even a dent in the ship with my maxed defense
Donβt come here with the βyou can shieldβ
Well, you can. Also a lvl 33 can't have an enterprise π
lol true
lvl 33 shouldnt be able to poach under lvl 26?
or is that still not the case
Is the event gir lvl5-14 already active?
we wont know until she's unlocked, confirmed yesterday that it's working as intended
Ouch, working as intended.
I think their timeline is a bit off since, at least in my server, the Franklin events didnβt start til today.
Pry helps their bottom line to shorten the build event or have it closer to the swarm attacking events so that more feel pressured to buy the Franklin.
You will probably have extra time
Maybe we will have a bonus refinery like in AoW part 2
I doubt we'll get extra time
Kill certain amount of swarms to have a bonus refinery
@charred prawn if your event started late then yes.You should have an extra time.Also what does time in events show now?
6d22h so a day short
Nope.That is correct time
check the times above and what APAC got that's 8 days
It is also 6h 22mins in APAC
yeh but you started a day early
all of ours started today
They always test in APAC first
they don't give APAC longer events though like they have here
Not 2-3 for all people...
He is point is APAC got it 1 day earlier
People get shot off mines during war..
Some peoples ships need UC to be efficient at the level they're at
I hate to think how many speed ups I'd burn through to do it in 2-3 days
mining should be no problem but the PVE no chance
@charred prawn how powerful is your ships and what lvl are you?
310k at 29
26 vally and Kumari are at approx 200k each.. ops27 has 3d left and I'm now saving UC for next Kumari upgrades
Your ship power is a little low
@thin heart dont upgrade your ops during an event
The UC requirements for research, builds and ships is outrageous
@charred prawn how many 32s you can kill in a trip?
Ohh yea.Sorry
Not hitting 28 until I have all sala BPs haha
and if I wanna keep advancing every single research and building now takes uncommon
@charred prawn you get 30 points each trip?So 2 lvl 32 kill?
nah 400 to 500 points 20-25 so 17 full repairs of 4 hours
I can do the PvE over 7 days if I'm smart about it..
The mining is my worry.. 45k g3 per day during an alliance war
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I'm gonna mine trit also though as suggested
@thin heart mine trit for 3 days with 3 envoys
Yeah on it already.. ππΌthanks
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800k in 3 days with 3 envoys is 90k a day
@charred prawn so you need 15 trips to complete event?
its the same reqs as 28 and I doubt many 28s are running around with a 300k+ ship
nah about 17
It can be done in a week
event is 7200 points
not saying it can't just pointing out 2-3 days is not which is what phil said
15 hours of mining a day for 3 days π
@uneven dove mining is easy
2-3 days at a leisurely pace it isn't
So every 2,5 hours i need to empty ship to prevent it getting killed
You can complete it in 72 hours(68 hours for repairs) withour sleeping
I have a job todo
@uneven dove you wont get killed if you are on a trit node in deep space(25k nodes)
that's kinda exactly my point it isn't 2-3 days at a leisurely pace
Nope 7 days is a push.. when you take away work, sleep, life and study
@uneven dove no rules?
yeh some servers are utterly brutal
@uneven dove most of our players dont hit for oc trit,par and dil
We are Lucky 80% agrees not to kill empty miners
But I do when I am in a war
Why 3mins?
I donβt mind spending 2 weeks to get the Franklin on a normal pace
To see if player is online or not.Or to give enough time to refresh it after the 0 node notification @abstract gate
But 2 events in 7 days of which 1 is undoable because i apperently should have leveled my ships more
3mins is tight lol
For which i would need resources you cannot raid as there is no one to raid it from
I should say notification doesnt work most of the time
0 = 0 on hour servers
A message must be send but can be after
Sniping not forbidden
@uneven dove surely you can kill a couple of levels up for the points might be slow but should get you there
We agreed that 3 min warning will be enough to refresh the node
I need to kill 300 level 28, 1000 level 27, 3000 level 26 or 6000 level 24/25
How much can you kill in one trip from each lvl?
should be doable with a tier 3 valk then
I think 5-6 per round
I can kill 10 28s with 150k vahk.So if you have a 150k vahk,then 2 trips a day is enough
No only 110
Then kill low lvls
yeh it's possible but will burn a lot of time
that's a massive time investment
It is like the killing sheep in world of warcraft
Stupid missions
Not giving pleasure
The BB was better
Easy to get, difficult to level
Lets hope you can get 45 more bps from missions(if they add any new one)
Otherwise you have spend hours a day to finish it
It isnt a problem for me,because I dont sleep to refresh my node
@shrewd totem you can kill lvl 28 swarm at 600k with a 150k vahklas?
You dont need to kill swarms
Also I have a 230k kum,but still I kill normal hostiles
26+ swarms are impossible without Franklin
@shrewd totem i didnt tealize it was just hostiles. I should have paid more attention. Thanks.
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How many 28 hostiles by using NS?
I give them the time it takes me to fly to a node haha.. then bye bye
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@uneven dove I dont think you have a way to finish PvE event with these ships in an affordable time
I agree π
@uneven dove can you do the new dailies? Maybe you can upgrade your ships with that bonus trit and dil
How about 20?
Will do now
Okay.It will help you to have enough trit to upgrade your ships.Also save your rss for kumari
@uneven dove Have you tried finding factionless hostiles? And if you did, on a NS hit anything else than an interceptor
@median slate it is 7200 for 28-29s
@median slate I can do 1200 points by killing faction 30s in one go, believe me I wish I stayed 27 :)
I finished BFG in one go in xerexs.. all 1500 or however much points it was
BFG was the easiest event
At 24-27 yep
I think it was 9k for final milestone at lvl 25
So is it just me or were these event mission poorly planned or participation drastically underestimated
@tranquil harness just you
@shrewd totemthanks just checking
I can't get into the systems
Ohh if you meant missions,then yea you arent the only one
They just went live on our server yesterday
@median slate it's over a week, 450 NPCs... that's 65/day, not so bad
I'd rather that than 360 lvl 32s I have to do...
@rapid sky me too.. With a 260k kumari. πΈ
i'd rather 360 32 because you get faction bp then π
The Grind... the ginnnnnnddddddddddd... iiiittttt nnnneeevvveeerrrrr eeeeennnnnddddsssssssssss
@tranquil harness you should be able to now
you can also get them from 30/31s...
31s then.. they are so much easier to kill than 32s π
you can actually see faction enemies use other ships starting with 31 π
Spocey's again out of decency, hitting lvl 32 hstiles to get 20pts... I can't do more then 7/8 fight wih my kumar
Fuck you scop'
@sudden haven post your crew
Swap to cadet uhura captain, cadet kirk or instr spock, and grace chen
Now i try with thisbut it's a disaster
actually Livis might be a good replacement for Kirk/Spock
I can kill more 32s with him π
Ok i gonnatry, thx for the tips
What is it meaning "grade chen" ? I'm Not so familiar with english
Sorry, grace Chen, name was misspelled
Is the x25 boost working for franklin?
Maxed tier 3 itβs still hitting at 10k a hit
Ah ok. Thx
@dull pagoda Rev reckons it's actually a 2.4x boost not 24x
Oh so itβs worthless. Thank you
Itβll never be as powerful as an ns or vahk but if you max it out itβll be close but only against swarm
well ship's ability improve at tier/level up
I mean itβs 80k now tier 4 but itβs nothing to write home about
At t5 its saying 38 x damage
out of shipyard it's probably useless for anyone with a decent vakhlas
Itβll never beat a lvl26
@tame inlet also leveled up to 25?
Yep
130k....t5....cant kill a lvl26 swarm
Yep....2 packs to build...upgrade pack....mod pack lol
I expected a bit more
Ill need over a million modulators to get to t6
yeah so far the swarm dailies are pretty underwhelming anyway
you will need 1.2-1.6m per section later π
so not going to spend any money on it
and surprise you can kill half a lvl35 swarm ship at t8 π
what did you all choose between help jaylah to fight the swarm alone or ask the deferation for help?
well help her gives recruit shards, get the fed gives G2 mats, what would you choose? π
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Well my vaklas does 1 24 swarm, the second kills it
My NS does a bit more 3-4 ππ
well unless you're below level 20
hm. still would take the recruit. the t2 mats aren't that much. you get those after a day of refinery. but recruit tokens take way longer
well, maybe, if it was G3 it wouldn't have been an easy decision to make
So how do you kill a level 32 swarm that is 1.4 mill power with a ship that is 295K? This just doesnβt look like an event anyone can do. Stupid crap they always make the events too difficult to compete.
same as you kill a 2.6M seperatist boss with a 400K ship
It doesnβt work at all. BS.
you can kill about 8 32s with t8 franklin
First, make sure your Franklin is fully leveled so it does max damage. Then make sure your crew isn't butt
thats to much ur asking for @halcyon briar
How many packages did you bought to have tier 8
Does anyone know how the required Event Scores are calculated? We got lvl 26 Players that require between 2250 and 9000 points for the PVE max reward.
9k pts at 26/27 is 450 30s
Yeah, but why is the required score (insanely) different?
@low berry dunno at least 4 packs or so a mate in my ally
so is the general consensus that the Franklin is underwhelming, the daily rewards are so so, and the grind is awful?
basically franklin is worse than bb
@abstract gate because hostiles get exponentially harder into higher levels
the difference between a level 30 and level 32 non-faction hostile is pretty nuts. I wish I hadn't gone to level 28.
almost double in strength π
also the lack of level 32 non-faction hostiles hurts
yep, there's that as well
in last BFG I just went and killed faction ones anyway because xerexs was buggy/full etc.
ugh, this sucks. the lower level people in my alliance are saying "yup, completed the PVE event already!"
blech
must be the really low levels then?
Or strong for their level
yeah but 24-27 is still killing 100s of NPCs
sure it's doable if you started when the event went out and didn't put your phone away lol
then again, rewards are better for higher levels, franklin bps is just a small bonus on the side
and hey, I have a week to complete it whenever I have time π
I'll need 19 runs with my Kumi π¦
Yea, decent uncommons lol
@pastel python but see the positive side. chance of dropping faction bp
well whatever you get from the chests is usually pretty decent
officer XP, some relo tokens, horizon BPs
some well needed 3* IC parts for my sally π
If I can stick exclusively to lvl 32-33 battleships, about 7 runs for me. But usually I've got to kill some 34s or traders too depending on the system I'm in
Since only the rom system feeds me those battleships and my fed rep is already 1m higher than rom ππ
well for me 31s are the problem... they aren't as efficient π
Lol
I can kill 19 lvl32s in one run with Livis in the 3rd seat
Yea ive been doing these events in lvl 33 systems since I got my Saladin, id rather inefficiency kill 34s for 20 points than inefficiently kill 31s
need to double check again spock or kirk but pretty sure they are less effective
well there's 3 systems in klingon space with non-faction BS
What I need is a fed system with lvl 32-34 battleships
So I can grind that rep down a little, getting dangerously close to 5m
I can do the lvl 33 system with explorers, but halves my kills per repair
do they really have to be 33 though?
I would think even lower levels traders would be more efficient to lower rep than higher level BS
lvl35 bs is -544, 33 is -342, 31 tarder is -816
lol
well on my Vakhlas against 28 I used bosses crew... it was more efficient
not kirk,spock,uhura...or the energy wappen crew....cadett uhura, chen, teacher spock?
I'm guessing it's more a factor of ratio between your ship and what you kill
Yea, cadet crew If your Franklin is strong enough to "farm" them
Kirk spock if you're trying to kill one's much stronger
or Nero/Kumak if your shield anyway doesn't get depleted
since explorers have high shield π
yeah t'laan/Nero/Kumak(cpt)
it works well since they have a lot of hull and no shield, similar to the bosses
Yea
hmmm, enterprise...or cadett uhura, teacher spock, chen or tlaan?
Chen does nothing vs them
So definitely tlaan in either case
Which level swarm and how strong is your Franklin?
Interceptors are kinetic yeah, Chen does nothing
have t8
ok, seems that cadett uhura, teacher spock and tlan are better then kirk,spock, uhura?
Unless you are trying to kill a level 35 swarm probably yes
need 34, but i test 32
I've been doing Nero/Livis/Chen on my Kumari for hostile farming
actually Nero/Vemet/Chen
vemet is useless
Livis & Chen are decent, Nero for hostile farming is an interesting choice
works well against explorers
well I'd say try cadet Uhura in the captain seat instead of Nero and compare
also depends on what hostiles though π
Chenβs officer ability does nothing to the swarm but her captain ability is good if sheβs in the chair.
how many mission kills required, going for 160 now
Wait wait wait.... Only the pve gives 45 franklin bp's.... Where's the rest?
240 @sharp ibex for the first mission string. The second so far only requires modulators.... About 10k total... So far...
@tiny dagger the mining one
π€£π€£π€£π€£ I KEPT LOOKING AT THE BUILD THE FRANKLIN AS THE MINING! ....i feel dumb now.... π£
Thanks @halcyon briar
np
I for one quite like this new update, it gives the community what they asked for. Another base resource income stream, a ship that you can get as f2p, upgrades possible through effort but those that want to pay can skip the grind.
anyone got a screenshot of the event timetable/schedule?
yup. ty
Anyone have a list of the hostile ship level range for each player level ie as a 31 I get points from 30-34+
that would mean actually communicating with players well scopley doesnt have time for that π
even number + 1 vs even number +4 for 20pts
so lvl20/21 needs to kill 24 for 20pts
@verbal flame
That makes sense thx
The amount of points needed at lvl 27 is dumb. Someone at lvl 29 need less points to finish...why scopely why
at level 28 I have to kill level 32 ships. it's really painful.
I'll have to go roughly 24-32 times for my Kumari.
since there aren't too many systems with non-faction level 32 ships
I have to kill 450 lvl 30s to hit 9000 points
Doubt it'll make u feel better, but lvl 26 people need 9000 points and hve to kill 450 level 30 ships too
Lvl 28.. Have to kill. Lvl 32 and have to reach 7200 points π.. Need to repair kumari after every 8-9 ships. πΈ
Amorgin has posted a complete walkthrough of The Swarm missions in 2 parts:
- Part 1: https://youtu.be/1GVsN1OW_RE
- Part 2: https://youtu.be/94WJjc3ueFw
If you are looking for more The Swarm information, then there are dedicated channels at LCARS:
#the-swarm - general information (discussions, screenshots, events, etc)
#swarm-missions - screenshots of all of the missions available
#ship-build-requirements - T1 to T9 Franklin ship build requirements
If you are looking for The Swarm system information, or the new PVP attack ranges by level, then ask the LCARS bot is the Access Terminal channels.
If you are not a member of LCARS, then click on the invite below: https://discord.gg/HwyxQ2S
And that is why the event once again is for those who pay, many leave and abandon the game because of this type of injustice.
Only pay to win
Wins!
No free to play no win anything
@oblique hatch The Franklin is free-to-play achievable ... not through missions, but instead by doing the events
I continue in the missions and only empty the resources of the players
But being able to do the swarm dailyβs that have been added, only one can be done due to the power level of the ship needed not many have.
We've done all the missions ... scroll up, there's a two-part video and LCARS has all of the screenshots of the missions
If you want to give event feedback, Scopely have a channel for that: #π¬-events-feedback
If you have a better idea, then post here : #π-suggestions
They never listen or answer Bro is effort in vain I will be putting the catch here
Not true ... they changed the PVP levels based on feedback ... they made the Franklin F2P based on feedback ... We've seen mining rates, building upgrades, and lots more changed based on feedback ...
Keep it constructive and they will listen
And while?
I mean just don't say it sucks ... show why and how it could be better, within reason ... remember, they're not a charity, they're a business, they're there to make money.
To cry to another part hehe
I think that for players who do not buy almost real money in these events should put good deals I use pesos not dollars in the region ask to be the offers since I would not stop eating to buy a new ship that is illogical
This is the wrong place for suggestions ... post where they're listening π
@quick sand do u know how to get special warp parts for Franklin?
For T2, itβs in the event i saw it, but for t3,t4 so on?
The guys over at LCARS#the-swarm channel were discussing it ... depends on your OPs level
Hey how come at 27 I news to score 9k for event but at 29 its only 7200k
@oblique hatch You know the event doesn't require you to kill swarm, yes? You just have to kill level 24 ships, any type
And even if the Talla is your strongest ship you're working against the combat triangle because swarm are interceptors. Use your Turas
Or until someone explains well
@alpine yoke for Spanish-speaking players is very badly translated that's why the big confusion but thanks to you now I understand better
I understand, Scopely has a lot of issues in English so I very much doubt they did a good job translating either
Now I just need to eliminate 525 level 22 ships that are the ones reached by my level of ships
100 per day
Gracias bro
Yeah it's about the same for me. I can do about 50 in a run before needing repairs, but my ship level is a bit above normal for my OPs level I think. It's doable though
de nada
π π
Am i missing something here, but the amount of modulators needed to upgrade vs the amount provided is WAY unbalanced. How exactly are we to uograde the ship so it becomes useful?
dolla dolla billz ya
Great job making another bs attainable ship for those f2p people, yay scoply!
@latent roost The grind is real . . .
Your retention plan is great.
hey.. .after this week's events.. if we have left over swarm biominerals... do we can to redeem them after this event?
or they get stuck in inventory til the next event that uses them
Anyone know if theres a 3rd swarm mission chain, or just two?
Kind of anticlimactic if just two
What power level was your Franklin when it could start to take down level 28s?
So I have a quick question. The Biomineral event starts tomorrow but the only place I have gotten them other than missions is in dailies?
Are the swarms not going to drop them? I destroyed over 100 today and never saw one biomineral
Like the description says it is only obtainable from the daylies (and quests)
And most of us already completed all the quests lol
Timing is awesome !!!
So i need to kill 200 ships for one refinement every 4 days
To get 100k of a rss?
Even mining is more easy
our alliance leader saw the event and informed us not to do the dailies until the event started. hopefully the other alliances didnt get the message.
Anybody else find that the uss franklin ship ability isnt working?
I dont think it multiplies anything and thats the only reason to want this bs ship
its also a good swimmer
Looking for Swarm Missions and steps? See the link at the Wiki >> https://star-trek-fleet-command.fandom.com/wiki/The_Swarm
more than just the Mission names... π
@uneven dove It's to waste everyone's time and get people to pay real money for blueprints for a worthless ship that sounds like others have reported doesn't even work, just to get 100K RSS once every day or so.
If you can't get teir 4 in all the events don't bother
Tbh, a 500k ship for $300 isnβt a bad deal relatively speaking
I donβt have one but on paper it seems like you can use it for quiet a bit of things <op28
@abstract gate assume there will be more events coming where you'll be able to get BPs if you can't max out the current events, but events are easy enough to do
@sour plaza it's not 300$ for a 500K ship, you'll need more than that, still it will be much cheaper than getting even a T1 faction ship to those numbers, the real question is how does it perform compared to MF/Cent
the franklin has such a low base attack power, i wouldn't imagine it does very well
it goes up when tiered
wow that's pretty bad
how is it at soaking damage?
Half, want to try against other ships. As a bench for me to work on.
care to post battle logs?
nope, I guess the peashooters in the franklin says it all π
and 100% spock is just not enough to keep the shield up
Nope, I tried with a new lineup on swarm, got promising results, my Tlaan and blue guy aint maxed though.
how much damage you doing per round?
odd setup for swarm man
go for the classic hostile crew cadet uhura as cpt, cadet kirk + tlaan
@thick pine did that too, slightly less effect. Bear in mind my officers arenβt maxed so I get different results.
@charred prawn I posted log just above, scroll up.
yeh was talking against the swarm I don't think the bonus is working as written
actually, either morale or burning would do better if you're trying to kill a single hostile
but keep t'laan in both cases
so either Kirk+Spock or Kumak+Nero
actually I guess decius is also an option
so Kirk/Spock/T'laan or Kumak/Nero/T'laan or Decius/Nero/T'laan
how many rounds ?
probably a lot π
over 30 i think
Previous report from above
oh just 11 , that was quick lol
And close
hrm yeah I expected it to be longer, so no decius π
but even 100% spock should probably be able to keep enough shield up to win
better ^^
yep, but since it's still 11 rounds... probably better instr. spock in the 3rd seat
or even Nero
no benefit from Kirk
+15% more dmg? ain;t that gr8?
not if it doesn't make the battle shorter
pea shooter pls :d
how much hull they have to begin with @warped stag
keep uhura as cpt
Yup
yeah so each round nero burns you get 180K hull damage... that's huge
that's nice lol
Hmm burning crew
I just reached operation 17 to do this event, but I can only see the mining one not the "kill" event. Anyone have any clue why not?
@rapid sky you seem to be sure that the Burning proc removes hull hit points. How do you know?
In the current pve event I have to kill9k hostiles but 28s and 29s have to kill7200 why I get more
testing @hard tartan
put Nero on a low level ship and go hit a ship with high hull
it works nicely on the separatist bosses because they have pea shooters the first 3 rounds so you get a decent chance of burning before you die π
And then you eyeball the total amount of hull damage taken from the combat overview screen, and compare it to the sum of all hull damages from the combat log?
yes
you don't really have to do it if you use a high hull target as it's immediately visible that a fortunate can't get 35K hull damage done π
@warped stag I tried vakhlas against lvl26, I get 11 with Uhura/Tlaan/Spock and 13 with Uhura/Tlaan/Nero
Nero burn makes the battle shorter by 2-3 rounds
and that's on a 500K hull NPCs
And how many tries did you do with each setup? And was the ship attack bonus the same? 11 vs 13 rounds lies within normal variance.
why does data not count in mining events? It is a resource or material
true, but put their amount at 1 or 2 points
You could lower the points you geht from it
at least then you wouldnt have everyone trying to get 3* and there would be an additional option
i mean dil is only worth 5 points and it takes longer than any rss to mine. dil should be 10 points minimum
I mine 4k/h t3 which gets 10 points, my BB can mine twice AS fast right now
So 1-5 points for data would be good
1-5 pointes for data would be good?? π
A somewhat beefed BB swallows a 30k node in like 15min or so, so probly you have forgotten a coma somewhere... ππ
If at any time they should implement that data would be counting towards a mining event, it should be way less than 1 point, like 0.1 point perhaps, tops....π
i swallow the 50k node in 15mins
Ah right... Forgot that the mining bonus is lvl based and not Tier based xD
my BB is hightier but lowlvl
I'd still love for data to be 1pt
@rapid sky Interesting. Tried a North Star with Kirk+Spock+Nero against a lvl 28 swarm.
Swarm hit points: 798720
Total hull damage listed in the combat log: 601084
Combat rounds: 33
Nero procs: 15 (30 combat log lines mentioning Nero, but the combat log always shows 2 identical lines for each proc)
So about 25% of the total damage was not listed in the combat log. That averages to 6k damage per round. That's not enough to be useful on a strong ship (compared to, say, a 20%+ damage buff from Carol), but it certainly makes me wonder what else we don't know about the combat mechanics.
well I can mine data at over 100K/hr, I think max is around 200K/hr so even at 1 point it's too much π
Why? Why is 1pt too much when 25+ have to otherwise mine g3 for like 10 hours a day for 7 days. That is just insanity
@hard tartan since it appears to be 1 or 2% hull damage, it works best for NPCs with very high hull and little to no shield, the bosses have 3.5M hull which is why it works so well against them, less against swarm ships and even less against normal NPCs
and yes other officers might produce better results, I don't have Carol to try
@hollow oriole at 25 you need 2.4M points don't you?
so if you mine data at 120Kish/hr (you should be able to get your BB to the same level as me, and I haven't taken it as far as it goes before rare pluto is needed) that would be 20hrs instead of those 70 π
and it's actually less than 60 in a single fully-tiered envoy with the correct crew
I think it's 4370/hr, so roughly 55hrs
and you have 3 docks π
I don't see an issue. A 19 in our alliance already finished the mining event because he only needed to mine 500k pts
And mining ability doesn't change between lvl 16 with envoy and 26 with horizon, but event point requirement is 5x higher
well as your level goes higher you upgrade your envoy and can get a 2nd one, the rewards at 19 is much lower to those at 25
Level adjusted reward means horse sht when it's an event for unique BPs
the amounts are stupid. im 23 and need 2 mil. The amounts shouldnt be set at ridiculous numbers just because you are a higher level. 20+ should be set at 1m.
Thank you John. Exactly
it's a normal mining event with bonus of BPs on the side...
you have 1 week to finish it
I can't build a ship that can mine 2x faster every 2 levels
ill finish it but it shouldnt be so high
well the increase isn't x2 every 2 levels...
22-23 - 2M
24-25 2.4M
26-27 2.9M
28-29 3.6M
reg mining event fine, but one you tie to an event and for a ship you will need should be lower
its to enable f2p people to get a ship
they want us to buy. I would be inclined to spend more if they threw us a bone from time to time
of course they want you to buy, but you don't have to
they did say it would be a grind if you did want it free
it's the same normal mining event and you have 7 days instead of 3 to complete, when in reality you need less than 2...
having the option to obtain something for free but grind for it shouldn't be looked at negatively, if you want it quicker, pay for it
i'm all for the old scopely bash, don't get me wrong, but i don't see anything wrong with the methods of obtaining the franklin
@random : you ve tried nero as captain, cadet uhara and tlaan on the side? Or cadet Uhara as captain (but in that case burning things wont occur)?
people wanted it for free, now they moan it's too much work
@rapid sky
im not being negative, i am saying if they threw us a bone from time to time I would be inclined to spend more. But they dont. Other games learned the best way to get people to spend is to occasionally make things easy to get
you want it quick, but don't want to work for it, but don't want to pay either, hmm
your missing the point. Im not just talking about the franklin im talking in general.
More people would spend on this game if they did more for the players. Im not saying give everything away. But how about something from time to time.
you were specifically talking about the franklin though
@spiral forge uhura as captain, burning is Nero's officer ability
originally yes
right, well i hadn't realised you went more general
in that case, yeah screw em π
i switched, lol
my mind is going three different directions
not enough coffee to focus
i have never played a mobile game for this long
but i like it. they just need to reward the ppl that are still here. I mean the alliance rewards for pack purchases are an insult
drop $50 and they give your alliance a 5 min speed up
@rapid sky ; i cant get it, nero officer hability is 25% chance of burning, and his captain maneuver does increase damage. Is means that the burning thing is working even without using nero captain maneuver?
lots of us have been fighting since beta server lol
they listen, but don't make the BEST changes
@spiral forge correct
that 50 bucks is for you not your alliance
the speed up to the alliance is a lil bonus
it adds up a bit when a lot more buy packs
yeah like when my top alliance gunner comes online and buy 5-10 packs at a time
it's like x-mass in July
lol
@raw zenith i dont think the amount to mine is ridicolous.
I am ops 24 habe to mine 2,4 mio points, and habe already mined 1,5 mio
the mining events really do suck
lol you have mined more than me
@velvet dawn yea. im stuck on mining trit bc all 3* are taken
good rewards, but a pain to get
every high power is on a 3*
I sit in 2 t3
i dont think its fair that some have to mine 3 mil
i have to mine 4.5mil -,-
i've mined 2.5mil at the moment
helps having a faction miner on the right mine π
Faction miner... A loooong way to go...
looooong way to get one for m π
@rapid sky : woah, that's an info. And is it the same for morale and hull breach?
lol i got all the bps for it at 28, and then they brought out the shipyard requirements on me
@spiral forge no clue π
Does anyone see this "Swirly Art" they said the swarm systems would have?
@raw zenith xD
oh, the space clouds.
at least scopely are a bit better at communicating with us
digram never really communicated with us, back on beta
@hoary carbon looks @ news ingame ... Nope
were you on the beta server?
No.
I meant it AS a joke cause they updatet the news with zero content :)
nope, the other posts are all empty too
someone fat fingered the wrong key
News in game was for Carol reenablement. Text Disappeared for all announce though π
@abstract gate broke it all π
fixed now π
thanks phil
How am I supposed to complete 6 events at the same time? <@&509691205798592532>
Instead of putting them at the same time.3 at a time would be okay
told ya, wayne enterprises makes hostile takeover of scopely
Donβt worry I feel you. Being 32 the events for killing swarms are a bit much unless I instantly buy packs to tier up my franklin.
My 600k reg faction ships can only kill 5ish 32s which net 1 point.
βShip Blueprintsβ. Aka 5 Intrepid prints regardless of which faction you are. Awesome.
ππ»ππ»
@modest oyster why u need to kill swarms for points
How to get those warp coils and such through gameplay for the Franklin, which are displayed in the β¬110 pack?
Cuz Iβve completed all available swarm missions, yet no coils and such in my inventory...
Will they come as rewards for them upcoming solo events?
Also, if above, what if one is missing out on an event; how to acquire them coils and such?
@twilit imp
they are awarded in the Franklin upgrade missions
what are rewards for swarm kill solo event?
Ah, so after you build the Franklin itself you mean @abstract gate
Thanks ππΎ
yw π
So the bio material event is starting soon for the alliance. How exactly do you earn biomaterial???
@steel viper swarm dailys
Some missions too
If you haven't already done em all ofc lol
That it? So if you did the missions, the alliance is SOL.
Now you're gettin' it π
Aye i got 50xlvl15...simples then 20xlvl30 and 10xlvl32...nopes
@modest oyster is it possible to share screenshots from rewards
Leaderboard with first place awards
Second place and third for leaderboard
Solo Linear Heroic (Iβm 32)
yaay so ppl with the ship already can get the first 10 spots ^^
Rewards tier for heroic linear solo for the top 3 (omitted 4th cuz whatever)
Solo Linear βNormalβ again Iβm 32
Rewards for top 3 rungs
@modest oyster awesome thanks
No uncommon crystal? Boo
Guy in my fleet has a T8 frank and canβt kill 35s
So unsure how I would want to kill 375 32s for heroic linear in a 24 hour window. After dropping 300 dollars for 3x upgrade packs.
No thanks Iβll keep my money and skip.
@thick pine most folks on leaderboard are also throwing reg ships at hostiles
Franklin will be more effective but no one is stopping anyone from suiciding 26,28,32 faction ships at these things
yeah ppl will throw what they have for top spots !
at lvl 28 with 235k vahklas and 275k kumari i'm pretty much levelled out of the pve event and 2 of the 3 dailies
would take all day to complete this event
all day, every day
@modest oyster USA the right crew to kill the swarms easier
'merica
Can someone with a T1-T4 USS Franklin send me their farming stats compared to the ships they have on hand. I want to compare the tiers and farming stats. That way I can provide constructive data. Specifically, you have to be OK building a spreadsheet showing number of hostiles farmed and aggregate repair costs.
Not as concerned with higher tiers because those folks probably have faction ships and can throw their weight around anway
I'm halfway to T4. Would that help?
captn - it looks like that franklin does not have any special bonus againsz swarm ships. my t5 granklin is loosing agains lvl 32 swarm ships
Yes, that would be helpful.
Dunker, it definitely has something
The calculations are not bugged. But may be underpowered relative to ships on hand.
So, I'm trying to gain perspective from players on what they are using for alternatives.
I'm getting 12x practical initial damage against Swarm ships vs standard Hostiles of the same level
E.g. I have a T7 Centurion and it outperforms a T4 Franklin versus I have a T6 NS and it out performs a T3 Franklin.
Yeah, the calculation is from base and not after research
So it is additive stacking
Which is fine. But it may be underpowered for it to be useful
And yeah, I don't expect a T4 Frank to kill a 32.
This NS outperforms that Franklin
why do day write that franklin will multiply with 412?
That NS can kill 5 level 24s and breaks on the 6th, The Franklin can't kill 1 (but gets close)
Die DMG is multiplied
You need t8-t9 for lvl 32
Your defens and HP in your NS is way higher.
And only the DMG oft the Franklin is boosted
Yes, but even with the 12x actual damage boost, you'd think that would make up for the difference in HP and Def to even kill 1
You can obtain the new ship by completing both events fully. However, I would recommend buying the pack that gives 45 bp, but only one. The rest can be obtained from the events pretty easily, assuming you actively try to complete the milestones.
As being lvl 28, yes I should have T7 Franklin but how can I get in one day?
Upgrading to t3 asks 52k frequency module
Can u imagine t7 what it will ask?
And swarms they donβt drop too much, i can kill only 24-26,
With t4 saladin and bortas
Each they can kill 25 every turn
but to be fair, it's the same as it was with Botany Bay.
It's entirely possible to get it F2P but if you want to rush and be on top, spend money.
You either have patience or you spend, that's just the way it's designed
To be fair you could complete augment dailies even without a tiered up BB, could be a level difference (I was 24 then, 28 now)
I've finished the hostile part for BP today, I'll finish mining tomorrow.
It means I'll get the crumbles of this round of event and have it upgraded for the next round
Thatβs true @rapid sky
All without spending a cent
I have an event that asks me to kill 150 lvl 28 swarm ships, I can kill 3, maybe 4
or 15 lvl30 which I can't kill at all
But as far as I can see, especially heroic event canβt be done without Franklin
Then it means that they used the same system as the Augment event, but tuned it out to force people to spend more
:p
I need to do 8-9 trips with a kum to finsh these 2 new events.And it is impossible within a day without speed ups
@shrewd totem to be honest that sounds reasonable
9Γ2.5=22.5 hours
of course you will have to spend speedups, that's part of the process π
I need 50 trips... that's just insane
I can do it with speed ups,because I need trit and unc
Wow.50 trips with faction ship?
and that's on top the 3-4 trips I should do to kill the 32s to get the Franklin π
I have a sally but it's still a baby, so Vakhlas is probably my best bet
They should have give Franklin in the missions
but even if I could increase to 6 per trip, it's still 25 trips/day...
Is it not possible to finish the build@event with the single warp component given?
so yeah, for me the only way to participate in the 'heroic' event is $$$, buy the franklin and spend probably 200-300 more to upgrade it
and that's not going to happen, sorry....
Or spend lots of speed ups and time
well I don't think I'll have enough speedups and lat to do it
even at 25 trips per day, 3hrs repair each time
75Γ15
but rn it's 50, so 150 hours of speedups per day...
My t4 cent can kill 1 32..
@shrewd totem well that doesn't include 3-4 trips for normal dailies and PvE event, but yeah it's ridiculous π
In the Heroic event, for lvl 28/29, itβs required to kill 150 lvl 28 swarms or 15 lvl 30, which is beyond impossible. It should be somewhere between 50-75 or less please @twilit imp <@&509690795536941056>
Has anyone PvPβd with a stronger version of the Franklin? Is it specific to swarms or can it actually be a usable explorer? I have a 300k vahklas but never use it until recently.
and it's 30 lat for the 3hr repair one, so actually slightly cheaper but still
Yep.Still impossible
(and not to mention RSS π )
I can't recall what my vakhlas costs to repair but I think it's roundabout 80K trit, so 4M trit/day
Anyone else missing faction rep daily events? Multiple people from server 15 are missing them.
man the even hostiles are too strong for me and im lvl 28 i cannot kill the 30's and can only kill 2 28s at a time
Rss are renewable. Iβm just wondering how it performs outside of swarming battles
I get 600K+600K+480K+240K for the heroic event
I got mine Libert and Iβm server 15. Sorry I know that doesnβt help
Low for your lvl
Wanted to tier up Sally and thought I might as well get a bunch of modulators too? Two ships for one? Anyone do that?
Where did the faction daily event go? @twilit imp ...gonna tag <@&509691205798592532> too as panic never responds
@rapid sky I get 1.8m trit from both events
Sorry, first wronge chat
The current Schwarm Event is a joke, the requirements are again much too high.
I am lvl 28 and am supposed to kill a swarm ship that is twice as strong as my ships at Lvl 28. So I have to build or buy the Franklin.
Do not buy this ship!
I bought the ship with extension, spent more than 200β¬ and still can't kill an lvl. 28 swarm ship. My ship is level 5 and Lvl. 25 max. The next level costs again 100β¬ because you need millions of frequency modulators
@abstract gate did you get other events ? i dont seem to have any events (apart from those related to swarm) - so station/officer/research/ship xp
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> What happened to these events? They didnβt reset as they should.
No regular daily events either, like them ship/base/research/officer ones...
Nope, those are gone too
Probably because we have 6 events now
They want us to focus on these new events
Is there a max event variable somewhere that needs changing π
I have forwarded the missing events to the team, waiting for an answer
thanks @barren night
ππΎ
Thanks hal
Thanks
Thanks @barren night π
assumings its not "working as intended"?
All daily have been suspended to focus efforts on the Franklin event.
@barren night like what I said
Psychic
Batman knows everything
That was quick π
Suspended for how long, the whole duration of the Franklin event?
WHat is my Real name?
@Panic Are all of the threat from beyond daily events level specific. I have killed a couple swarms but got no points. Two of them do not specify a specific level for the swarm.
@barren night Hal
Hmm, close π
@barren night , suspended for how long; for the duration of the Franklin event?
That is what it sounds like, when I get a date of return, i will let you guys know and get it put in the Faqs section
some feedback <@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> it would have been nice to be notified before hand that dailies were suspended, and how long they are suspended for. There is a news channel, it should have been added there. I think people would be less mad if they knew before hand.
Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer @barren night
this is a discussion channel, not a news channel
hence why it is called '#events-discussion'
@sharp ibex Yea, but strangley enough, it's where they get their news π
there is a news channel in game
it should be there
or why is there a news channel
it is used on and off.
For updates to when my next strip show is?
be glad it's used !
Letβs be nice to the moderators π. They do hard work for the love of the game.
scopely ain't sufferering from a disease like lepra, that if they offer you a finger, you are allowed to take the entire arm
Just stopped by to say I want my rep events back. Thanks for reading π
Hey, someone watched my latest video π
<@&509691205798592532> is there another way to get biominerals other than swarm dailies?
@barren night purple ain't your color, stick to red ! π
Missions @graceful shard
@fickle chasm in the media section
#EVENTS_FOR_BATTLESHIPS
#REFUND_BORTAS
Probably done them already tho
<@&509691205798592532> what if I beat all@the missions already
Do I get punished for that?
@crude jetty stop spamming , just for that the next event will be for explorers
Like the rest of us
@graceful shard I am going to assume, yes, as most of the people have
Well that is less than optimal
I have 2500 biominerals sitting in my inventory but only 210 counted
Seems broken to me
Is that intended Phil?
@twilit imp the events are too hard for most players
lvl 30s for me is too hard some of my team have to hit 32s and they cannot kill them
need to get the franklin i presume @modern estuary
@barren night , the heroic event a bit overpowered I think...
1 point for a lvl30 bee, and 10 points for a lvl32 bee.
Need 150 points in total...
Am a lvl31 myself. Franklin nowhere near able to handle them, neither me centurion (not without 50 ish full health repairs)...
@lament prawn i have it its crap
2 at the moment but some of my team have it already at tier 6/7 and it still wont kill lvl 32s
@tawdry kindle That has been noticed and hopefully being addressed
Threat from beyond event should have different tiers for player levels. No way can lower level players compete with higher ones
ππΎ
rewards arent worth that kind of headache then
They laid it all out in a pretty chart and it is in the news. If you want to kill 30s, you need to have it at T8. If you want to kill 32s, you need to have it at T9.
@modern estuary
and tier 9 will cost you 1000 bucks
yeh but it does not factor in player level
worth it for 5 interpid bp right?
What does that even mean?
what power centurion will kill 1 lvl 30?
why run an event when most players have not had time to level it up to tier 9
yeh utter money grab
Want to do the event at high levels? Spend money.
most player dont think the franklin is worth spending dollars on, tbh id rather spend my money on my faction ships
Well, then this event isn't for those players
yeh but they cancelled all the other events
What other events?
Daily rep events...
Just sayin, want folks to spend millions in rss to upgrade a ship, outside of the normal expenditures for upgrades and research... then completely remove the reward system for doing so
You mean the daily events that require the same ship that the new events require that you don't want to pay for?
Thatβs like a soul source of faction creds outside of dailies.
Makes no sense to suspend the faction rep dailies, they take zero attention away from the franklin events. You just build one building and do one research and they're done..
Before I ram my 308k centurion into a lvl 30 swarm, can any predict the outcome?
@barren night 375 points Heroic needs 38 swarm clusters lvl 35 to be killed I ask how ?? Franklin Tier 9 will kill it am I right that means this is only for those who pay 600 euros??
Oh those events...
If thereβs a technical limitation to suspend the faction dailies, Iβd get it. Other than that... tough sell for me to understand it
They are running two events. One is easy for F2P, one is hard for P2W. They aren't running a damn charity.
What more do you want? You get all the same content for free. Just not as much of it.
@All battleships user : destroy all explorer for this event, it's an hidden event
LOL wut? If anyone actaully believes that I will be very disappointed in the gullability of mankind.
@low berry In essence, yes. The heroic event is for people that pay a bunch of money. The rest of us get the regular event. It has similar rewards though at lower quantities. And it is super easy btw. I already knocked it out.
the heroic event is possible without the ship
i am about to hit the third rewrad mark - i dont have the new ship
Again 308k, centurion, lvl 30 swarms, predictions?
You either have some kick ass ships or you are burning repair speedups like a mofo
@hushed belfry My money is on a dead Centurion.
you can kill one, maybe 2.
π
burning repair speed ups ofc but its still possilbe
i wont be going for hte top tier
but the refinary is so bad
I sent a 300K D3 at a 28 swarm and it didn't go well.
i need the uncommon ha
I hear you
@abstract gate not the thing. Problem is Tier 8 should kill few of them and it donβt
i can kill 5 ish 28's
So no progress there
what power?
342k
I don't have any decent explorers so I'm sitting this one out.
ok
lucky I guess that the centurion gets the advantage of hte triangle
right now I'm just smashing 19's with my northstar and up to 28th in ranked..
lol
good call
i take their hostile
have a second ship ready to take mine when I know I am on the last kill
I don't have that kind of trit to burn.
And now I can't steal it from lower level players any more π¦
yeah I lost my 20 mil trit when my courtesy shield didn't work...
look for this :d
That is the real travesty with this update. The updated PVP levels.
<@&509691205798592532> give levels beyond 30 some time to progress and Heroic should give now at least 5 points for level 32 swarm
Or cut down half the points
They just keep coming ha
lol
not sure about going for top level - that prob doesn't seem worth it
People on my server seem to be much better at cleaning up after themselves, unfortunately
No freeloading for me.
follow them till they die π
Oooh yeah! bagged myself a couple badly damaged. Thanks @idle stump
π
If I could just get one 30....
might be able to do the same trick
I really need a beefy explorer...
Yup new event counter not working for either swarm killing or swarm damaging
Donβt understand the Heroic Version what ship you have to have to kill 35 swarm someone any idea ??
A level 35 swarm? Better have a faction explorer or the Franklin tiered way up
Open the news in game. One of the news items lays out what tier your Franklin should be to handle swarm at your ops level.
To kill 35s? The chart doesn't go that high. Sucks to be you.
T9 is for 32.
Tier 8 Franklin will easily handle 35 swarm