🏆-event-chat

[bright smelt]

That’s what I’m reading since hours. Ppl are pretty unhappy about all this. Ppl got dragged into this even if they dont want to participate in pvp. It’s not that fair

[ashen wharf]

most servers have lunatics feel bad for yall

[indigo heron]

is there a cooldown for this?

[fiery compass]

22 hours

[indigo heron]

thanks 👌🏻

[green forum]

Anyone know how to collect Tarka’s weapon?

[dreamy patio]

you don't yet

[green forum]

😑

[iron lynx]

Easiest event to cheese in a while.

[wary merlin]

@here basing so many events on pure free for all pvp is going to cost alot of lower players... when they can't even do dailies without getting killed .. already had a cpl of ours throw in the towel.. @pseudo rune

[leaden geyser]

The level 59 was waiting for me to go to the mission point, only 500m, nbd, just a bug on his windshield

At this rate I’ll finish the mission after the event ends

[lapis sparrow]

Good thing we cant do any events since its pvp galaxy wide #dopely

[nocturne cave]

u have weeks to finish the missions

[leaden geyser]

That’s not the selling point you think it is 🤣

[twin verge]

🤣Use a cloak.

[twin verge]

It's not. Nobody wants to play with a baby any way. Always hurt.

You will be fine.

[wary merlin]

I don't mine pvp.. I just spend more on real life . Just a comment that needs to be made for all to ENJOY the game.

[eager yew]

Wow, this pvp event is making it difficult to get normal gameplay done. I hope this is not really the new norm scopley, if you lose your krill the whales will have to go elsewhere to get their food

[covert onyx]

Why name calling? Doesn't make sense

[river shale]

and I know my 150$-ish a month didn't make me a whale, but i'm not going to voluntarily be krill over and over and over... I like to think 150 gets me at least flounder or manatee status

the only people who've attacked me today have been 18 levels above me...

[little flint]

Event is easily manipulated. 2 alliances get together and spam small ships at each other. People with Alts easily climb the leaderboard since they can just spam attack their main account.

[ashen wharf]

he’s a grumpy toddler probably hungry dont mind em

[nocturne cave]

its not manipulation. its pvp in its rawest form. the pvp is not just ships clashing .. its making sure other ppl dont score by giving them nothing and taking everything.

[idle bobcat]

Stupidest event and building thus far.

[trim copper]

Anyone know how to become a whale in about 13 seconds to keep up with this arc? Anyone?

[lapis drift]

Mastercard. It’s everywhere you wanna be

Just keep swiping till it’s smokin

[trim copper]

But I don't wanna 😂

[lapis drift]

😂

[ashen wharf]

i just did it ordered food

weird

[abstract gate]

Create a Gofundme

[ashen wharf]

it wont go to the game so weird

almost like my brain tells me to be intelligent and not purchase pixels worth nothing

[nocturne cave]

all u need is a realta and a partner. aka the cheese. other then that run and hide and give them nothing

[rocky hornet]

Good job ScOpElY for barely putting thought into a pvp event that can easily turn it a non-pvp event. I mean, you almost did it. But now alliances are gaming the system and just trading swaps with cheap ships.
Fantastic!
visible sarcasm

[nocturne cave]

no pvp event in a game with broken pvp mechanics will ever be perceived well

[rocky hornet]

Make anything lower than G3 not count. Boom! Done! Fixed!
Send me my check and make sure people know it was my idea.

[foggy cliff]

Or make it g3 vs G3’s g4 vs gv4 and so on so you don’t have 10 bil borg cubes flying around blowing everything up?

Resulting in folks doing realta wars to complete

But that’ll never happen cuz crap has to roll down hill

[alpine snow]

Well this was sold by CCs as an alliance participation thing that wouldn't require those who dont like pvp to do much. But then day one you put a pvp sms in there, so of course people are going to cheese it.

[covert onyx]

Maybe sell a kidney? Donating plasma is slow going

[trim copper]

Well I DO have 2 so... 🤔

[covert onyx]

Problem solved lol 😂

[sacred eagle]

thanks scopley. I just lost 5 players. dropped tags and quit. these are guys been playing since day one. great job.

[brittle siren]

Free for all pvp is just a bad idea…who thought this was a good thing to do? Fire them..

[lapis drift]

Tbh, i don’t think they care. As long as daddy war bucks keeps shoveling money in their pockets, they are golden.

[oak matrix]

how low can scopely go? first they announced 5 missions in news of arc launched.. made the completed missions 500pts.. shows the missions listed there.. and then we can't find the missions in the holodeck only to get a reply from support desk that it's an ops 38 mission? what's wrong with scopely ?
@cosmic steeple

[winged trellis]

for the pvp event, do you score points from killing warships that are in the base?

[fiery compass]

heard a no on that earlier

[winged trellis]

okay thanks!

[foggy cliff]

PvP slb no, war room yes

[thin coral]

Worst design update thus far. Can they find a worst update to top this one?

[formal moon]

Almost all the content releases are meant to engage the older community with scopely (ops40+) to keep them around to spend more money.

[oak matrix]

i knkw but it's in complete mission sms shows 100pt.. and they published its 34+

support doesnt even know? and says its a 38+ mission?

[formal moon]

@cosmic steeple another one for you to bubble up

[neat ruin]

I wonder how much more we can complain until they realize this pvp event is a mistake

[proven pendant]

Where do I find Tarka's isolytic weapon?

[grizzled mulch]

Likely the Store. Not out yet, tho

[ashen wharf]

best way is to put up 7 day shields and let it die off

[grizzled mulch]

I like how confident you are that they’re not going to run another one next week 😄

[ashen wharf]

oh i mean everytime it runs of course

dont let them get your activity its how they sell to their shareholders

[grizzled mulch]

Just how many 7-day shields do you have? 🤣

[ashen wharf]

36 i think i buy one once a month

pure vacation time

[grizzled mulch]

lol. Well, you’re good through December then 😄

[ashen wharf]

if i could stack them i would be gone for atleast 2-3 years

🤣

trying to find a way to use all my resources tbh i have better games to enjoy

warhammer at the end of the year

black myth wu kong

[untold wyvern]

I guess if you do your dailies you will always have shields up :p

[ashen wharf]

and its only $70 each

i just do dailies pretty much then log off

not worth my time here

[opal mantle]

Is there any sneaky reason to NOT upgrade the war room as far as I can?

[feral barn]

No! Just the opposite get it as high as you can

[spring estuary]

Is this Warchest sms going to run every week? Me and a ton of others don't want a 24/7 pvp game.

[feral barn]

As of now that's the plan, but the customer feedback today may alter it to some extent. We can hope.

[desert laurel]

It's not once a week. Leave feedback on the event, including how often you want it in the future, and it might be taken into consideration.

[feral barn]

Woot that's not what we were hearing from the youtubers, it was it resets every week. Good to hear though. Cause as it is now we will loose a lot of alliance members since they can't complete dailies or events in the time they have to game. Due to the top alliances marking everyone enemy to score in the war room missions.

[tulip gate]

Over 900 years in the future from where this SNW 2 Arc is

[sharp rock]

I thought I’d seen eco clarify that the current events that are up won’t run weekly but that the new war room feature was designed to run on a continuous loop. Might have read wrong.

[desert laurel]

It's scheduled twice this month.

[spring estuary]

One other thing, with the update, Iwe can't look into some faction store chests anymore. For example, I can't see how much Xindi scrap I have and how much I need to grind to open the chest

after it has been claimed for the day

[feral barn]

Candle your talking about the gorn venom mission, what about the war room missions? Those are every week right?

[desert laurel]

SS the event you mean?

[cunning radish]

he means the war room

[feral barn]

The building missions themselves

[cunning radish]

?

the event to BUILD the war room?

[feral barn]

To fill up the bar. Ever week.

[cunning radish]

so the war chest

[feral barn]

Roger. Which is scoring through like 4 missions

[cunning radish]

?

the war chest has no missions

[feral barn]

These are missions just like killing hostiles for the vault

[cunning radish]

that's not a mission

and killing hostiles for vaults are missions either

It's event scoring mechanics

[feral barn]

Semantics. To score you do the assigned task, thus a mission or goal. But however you want to word it.

[cunning radish]

Not sure if english is your first language or not, but calling them a mission doesn't make sense

But yes

seems it doesnt run every week

[heavy edge]

@eco said yesterday it will not be every week

[bleak python]

Thanks for your utterly worthless patronizing input.

[upbeat flame]

For borg hostiles, which ship and crew do you use? Thanks!

Sorry Gorn hostiles I meant!

[gray ravine]

Why can't I claim keys? Anyone else have this issue?

[desert laurel]

You must participate to earn the rewards. I'd try to perform a scoring action.

[potent anchor]

Feedback for you: don't run this awful event ever again. The reasons are obvious. I slept on my thoughts from yesterday and I'm quitting. I don't play a Star Trek based game as a 'war' game. I'm sure something like 10% of the players keep scopely in business and if this is what they want, that's fine for the business. I've paid hard earned money into the game and despite all the ridiculous bugs and mess ups, have largely enjoyed it because of the people I've played with. Not because of the events, very few have been well thought through or delivered.

[brave jetty]

Should be power destroyed ..not total kills..kills are skewed by killing and swapping ships kills with another player…realtas suiciding into a bigger enemy ship should not let you win the ecent

[wraith dome]

Anyone know of a cooldown period for the war chest yet?

[tardy dune]

Almost impossible to play. Signed off early because it was useless. Signed back in at 11:30 est to get 15 35 or higher hostiles to complete my dailies. I made it by 5 min. People were camped in almost every system. You can't compete with players 16 lvls above you with an impulse crew on. usually have dailies done in the afternoon.

[somber cedar]

@cosmic steeple some feedback for you on the new arc quality of life changes:

1. the increased amounts in the ex borg store for things like actian venom, extremely positive and actually will use these now
2. hiding the purchase option behind a view intermediate screen is a the wrong way to go. Every morning I click 200 buttons in stfc to collect all my stuff, this adds to that burden and intermediate screens are slow sometimes as well. In ex-borg especially it now hides the purchase price, so you need to click through lots more to see what you want to buy.

Please please please, make an option for all faction areas, refineries, alliance store etc, for us to add a button to a master click button, to do all our block standard refines with one click...it would give me back 15 minutes to 20 minutes a day to actually play

[worthy gazelle]

So that's when scopely decided to vacate all servers of f2p players and just focusses on paying PvP admirers....

[crude musk]

Maybe just make one server for all the hardcore PvP players, put them together and leave the rest of us alone?

[prisma oak]

Worst Arc in my 5 years STFC! If Scopley wants players to leave this game they are on the right track! I am ops 55 and wanted to take this Arc to go up, but with this unregulated pvp not sure if I even want to keep.playing this game. Thanks Scopley and Arc runner for ruining all the fun!

[mellow chasm]

Scopely can always top the worst things.

[stuck kite]

The worst update yet. Multiple days of PvP without designated systems? Why is Scopely repeating a known disaster on an even bigger scale.
Not to mention the faction shop disaster so that you now need a spreadsheet to compare your options

[cunning radish]

I’m loving it so far. Each to their own I suppose

[hard oxide]

What's up with all the extra clicks in every shop. What a waste of time and effort.

[low badger]

Really Scopeley Alliance Markers give different points. I am against this. It make no sense. 🙈

[drifting bridge]

This is supposed to be a mobile game, if I can’t log in and get my freebooter dailies done whilst I’m on the toilet, what’s the point?

Seriously though, stopping casual players getting events/loops done when they want is not a good way to retain players. Got whales camping in event systems, ain’t no way I’m hitting 50+ ships to do dailies anymore. On the assumption there will be at least one cardassian bp event on simultaneously with a purge this month, 0 chance of getting the overflow completed as well.

[versed stirrup]

Hi does it count for ALB killing explorers/interceptors/battleships on a station attack?

[dreamy patio]

no

[stable cedar]

What’s the code for the online store gift? 😁

[dreamy patio]

JGAL

[stable cedar]

Thanks

[worldly willow]

This event and the war room are both awful for casual players. I personally don't mind PVP but we have alliances going crazy and people aren't getting dailies done. We're either going to have to get stricter ROE which nobody wants or Scopely can learn what all other MMO's learnt in the early 2000's and have PVP zones

[long eagle]

Do anyone experience problem with claiming war keys? Button is grayed out and it’s says you can’t claim it till next cycle?

[dreamy patio]

is your game updated?

[long eagle]

Yes

[dreamy patio]

did your alliance finish it before you built it?

[long eagle]

Have really no idea.

Points are full but can’t be claimed. I have build my room yesterday evening so there is a chance they finished before that

Oké nvrm. Just got attacked again and it did unlock

[frosty kettle]

The PvP game is very poorly designed. I ops 42 players . I have no chance against players with ops 48+. Galaxy wide pvp means they shoot me down and I have no chance. Great feature for bullies. Disaster for pve and miners.no new discussion. Solutions are known and tested. Realta wars and special pvp systems. It is very disappointing and a sign of a lack of respect for this group of players that bad ideas have now been realised again. The fourth month in a row that I've heard of people everywhere getting fed up and quitting. Sad.

[cunning radish]

its perfectly designed - to make u spend to go bigger

its not designed for balance

lol

[jolly sun]

No event will change that tho, you’ve just discovered a basic game mechanism

[drifting spruce]

Can’t find the gorn sectors. Where are they?

[versed osprey]

they look like this

[past latch]

Any 133 system we’re using for pvp event?

[versed osprey]

you probably got your own dc server for that

[past latch]

lol wrong server

[novel spruce]

I am shielding for a week, the PvP band are stupid smashed by ships 10x the power daily grinding not possible, daily task ships getting attacked, doing missions using miners. If the set up doesn’t change i like others will be deleting game or base. I think 50% of my ally will end up doing the same. @pseudo rune

PVP zone and decent PvP bands as we’ve just got all the massive ships hitting the small ones for cheap lazy points any real challenge they all run away. Anything that means you have a choice it is why i actually like incursions I choose to join in or shield.

[next tendon]

@novel spruce pvp is not bad. but it is poorly designed as happened with raids that made them last 24 hours and then reduced the time for people to do daily ones. this event would have to be 12 hours

[lavish moth]

The smaller level players in my alliance are complaining the same thing. Has to be only for same level or three higher players to have a meaning of game.

Doesn't effect me as much as one of the top 50 in power of my server

[next tendon]

Besides, all the events are focusing on level 50+ players. so all levels below level 49 do nothing. nor can they end events for lack of power against what

[lavish moth]

Agreed

A truly Sad event for normal players

[next tendon]

It's no use putting a level 41 hostile and a level 41 can't kill it. I am level 57 and I have to kill levels 49 to be able to do them well and I have to invest more than an hour.

[lavish moth]

Very true

basically the event would allow me to clean all ships on server. Avoiding ROE as it is an event. What fun is this for anyone but the jerks that laugh

[next tendon]

our servet started very crazy arc. but we quickly agreed to make fun of not attacking certain systems that are used for daily use... but that is not a solution.

[lavish moth]

no its a customer solution and the server has to many Jerks that wouldn't care

It's a pain as an admin for me. The surveyor's kills getting points is a cheap shot as i can kill all miners no matter the level. No challenge at all. Surveyor's are surely setup for mining not PvP !!

[next tendon]

summarizing. This pvp event should not last more than 20 hours. There would have to be a bonus to kill in certain systems so that it is profitable for people to go to those systems instead of searching for others
and would have to be limited by ship level ranges. . At the same time I complain that they don't give points for mining companies but for stealing the oc from Latino and ISO. the two materials that must be mined daily

summary. an event for us to fight each other and people spend money to gain power. What we don't spend will end up scarring us.

[lavish moth]

yes a systems assignment would be the best for this PvP

or system type even is fine

[frosty kettle]

You need new ways for PvP. Maybe weapons or research for smaller players against much stronger players. WarpCoreBreak, Blackout, or something that only targets stronger players. So that you can also hurt them and they have a harder time tormenting other smaller players. Then battles would be more open again, only players with knowledge can be successful. Real pvp with risk for both sides😂

[novel spruce]

Thge band is terrible and like the other pvp events give players a choice or they will leave and already are.

[novel spruce]

more equal fights and ring fenced systems it is pretty simple I love incursions and a good old fashoined scrap I dont like being forced in to non-stop

[exotic hemlock]

only proven issue with that is; players will rush to do the new event --- once done, will never be seen again -- leaving others to rely on trading kills to complete the event.

[glacial kernel]

I suggested an exocomp that lasts an hour and only activated against much higher ops players when attacked your ship overloads warp core destroying your ship and theirs would make it a Russian roulette for high tier players punching down cause attacking a lower level might actually cost them something

[worthy plaza]

wow....seriously, amazing chest for a ops 51 player. 115k parsteel? how will i ever spend this thing?

[exotic glade]

Click the ! and see what you get when you reach next milestone in the war room, 269k!

[patent flume]

When your war room lvl 51 the rewards will be more rewarding

They increase as you upgrade the building

[versed osprey]

takes years to get there

[tacit fern]

What's the point in giving us an event we have no hope of completing at lvl 40, ive maxed ships all exocomps on decent isolydic crew and research and didn't make a dent in the Gorn hunter lvl 40, absolute joke. No wonder ppl leaving this game in droves and on top of that an all system pvp event so we can't even do the missions, as soon as u warp in your obliterated by someone with a 100mill power ship. Again an absolute farce.

[limber tide]

SCOPLEY doesn't care about what the players think. All the care about is the $$$.

[ancient light]

First they alienated the 30"s by introducing waves, now they are alienating the 40's with this new event. Unless your spending enough to be in the $copley click, your opinion does not matter.... spend or leave

[tacit fern]

True, I don't spend anything on this, used to tonstart with but nomore no longer worth it.

[oblique dock]

@everyone Event Guide for April 2024 - The month of PVP events (but a lot more too!)
https://youtu.be/udwyZNWcrI8
What events are coming up, here we tell all and when to be spending your valuable currencies and when to safe! some good strategies enclosed!!! So please share with your Teams 🙂

Copy of my crude Calendar is pinned in the Lewb Live chat on our Discord !

[jolly sun]

Cough cough save this arc ☝️

[hidden zinc]

Donde consigo la misión cinta roja? Soy lv 44 y no me sale por ningún lado y sin ella no puedo completar el evento de misiones del pase

[worthy condor]

Only thing Scopely did with pvp event is show f2p the finger.

[patent flume]

All they did was make PvP rewarding. PvP is not new it's a core mechanic of the game. Outside events theirs less PvP as not rewarding.

All scopely did wrong was alienate alliances by giving a scoring mechanic for hitting enemy alliances.

[ancient light]

Thats every event lol

[lapis drift]

Está en el Holodeck.

[narrow violet]

What crew you using ?

[prime gulch]

What crew did you use?

[patent flume]

👀 I'm curios also now, what crew did you use ? 🤣

[prime gulch]

If you have them use ent Picard, ent data and janeway…only isolytic damage scores

[tacit fern]

Have e picard and Data with troi as I don't gave any others, pic and data at mid lvl, troi 1st lvl also with 7 below deck as I've not got Hugh or any other that would help below decks.

[prime gulch]

Go with breach, burn and morale below deck…mine aren’t high tier either but I did okay…isolytic research will clearly help though

[glossy glacier]

Use janeaway captain with doc and data on deck, oh wait you didn’t put you have Jane my bad

[tacit fern]

I'm going through my research like wildfire as I'm wanting to try complete event b4 it ends today, dont have doc or janeway.

[glossy glacier]

That crew gets me 5-6 kills no exo on a 10.8m ent at level 40

[coarse cradle]

@pseudo rune I'm getting complaints from half my alliance that they will quit this game if this pvp event continues to be a regular thing. It is terribly designed. Just to echo some of the complaints here, it's only whales killing those ten times lower than their strength, camping mission points so you can't even complete the missions unless using a miner to do so. Texas Space now becomes obsolete because you can't autogrind there anymore. This event needs some redesigning and fast.

[worthy condor]

F2p cannot compete in pvp. Most of the other events they can. Scopely are forgetting most of the player base are f2p and is every bit as essential as the whales for the game to survive

[warm tartan]

Message I sent to my people: Scopely made this event for the same reason they do Incursions, to take resources out of this game. Doing so drives people to buy packs. So this is just a way for them to make money. Do your dailies as quick as possible and them pop a shield and go spend time with family.

[velvet phoenix]

It can be done easily, arrange kill exchanges
And yes it's one of the dumbes idea scopley put on in long time
Squish the last cent from whales before close the game

[gritty sentinel]

@cosmic steeple

got an idea for some fixes:

• Pick specific systems to be "war" systems. Similarly to how "Yoruba" is for specific events.
• The system picked is for certain level ranges. 38-42, 43-45, 46-49, etc.
• Kills IN the specific systems award the current "max" kill point value. Any kills outside of those systems awards 1% of the max. (e.g. 1,000 pts in the system, 10 points outside of it) AND death/losses get the current max. So if you kill an enemy outside those "war" systems, you help THEM more than you help yourself.
• This discourages killing outside those systems as it makes the time/effort not worth it.

OR

• Adjust PvP ranges. My 16M K'Tinga doesn't need to get smacked by a 600M Sanctus. What is the point? I'd never win, I wont even take off 2% of his shield health. But I get a repair bill and a trip home.

OR

• Make the points given to the warchest reflect the lvl of player hit. Fine, a person 20+ my lvl can hit me, but they get 1-5% of the points they should had they hit someone in their power range.
• You already do this for hostiles, level ranges worth certain points. do the same. If you punch UP, you get a bonus. hit your lvl, get a flat amount. punch down, get less points, etc.

This event needs some serious redesigning to make it effective. You are just alienating anyone sub OPs 50. I'm more likely to put up some shields and walk away for a week than I am to buy a pack, and I assume most others would do the same.

[grim crater]

I'm f2p. Plenty lurking around, use buffs, cloaks, kill overloaded miners. Lots of bonus in war room.

[velvet phoenix]

See all last arcs , they so listing to any feedback
Guess we have to thx the cc for all the great content this year too

[elfin ermine]

Yes.PvP is a mechanic in the game, but it isn’t a core mechanic. For a core mechanic it must be balanced, fair and the level range shouldn’t spread to much in which you can attack and can be attacked.

STFC builds up on PVE … so every new ship increase your strength massively. That isn’t good for a PvP system as a base.

[cunning radish]

A core mechanic has nothing to do with ‘balance’

That’s extremely erroneous lol

[dusky pelican]

Might just be time to update the pvp brackets finally and not have a g5 player be able to hit a g3

[velvet phoenix]

Never going to happen

[eternal cedar]

OH CMON SCOPELY. Another incursion in less than a month.

[balmy verge]

Anyone else seeing ships “slide” into a system but that doesn’t really “exist” (ie, can’t be targeted) in said system?

I’ve been “chased” by friends, enemies, clusters of ships … none of them actually there but who appear nonetheless.

Is this a side effect of War Room? Generation of zombie 🧟 vessels?

[dreamy patio]

ghost ships, there's an update available, see if that fixes it for you

[cunning radish]

They’re every month

?

[eternal cedar]

There is usually 5 - 6 weeks between them. Not 4

[velvet phoenix]

And what gets broken if I update?

[balmy verge]

No update for me

[dreamy patio]

close out the launcher

[balmy verge]

I’m on iPad

[dreamy patio]

I said pc

[cunning radish]

It’s a day. What’s it matter

[wispy pike]

Another month without an officer unlock for the elite BP and little value overall in the elite track. Soon I'll even stop getting that if it's the new trend.

[hidden zinc]

@lapis drift revisada holedeck y no está sólo me salieron 4 misiones a cambio de diodos las restantes son con patrones y tampoco la tengo en misiones pendientes

Entiendo que han puesto un evento de 5 misiones para jugadores altos , en mi caso solo me salen 4 y a jugadores 38 le salen 4 y solo pueden hacer 3 pues le piden acceder a sistema DS y por su lv no pueden acceder a él

[lapis drift]

El mío está ahí. Asegúrate de no haberlo conseguido ya.

[lapis drift]

Soy un de 46 años. Tal vez por eso lo tengo.

[hidden zinc]

Gracias RED , comprobado solo me salió 4 misiones esa no la tengo ni en pendientes ni archivadas

[lapis drift]

De nada. Puede que aparezca más tarde

[nocturne cave]

im amazed ppl still have time to pvp with all the loops

[nocturne cave]

seems about some servers have permanent incursions now.

[flint star]

the real gameplay is pve if you ask me pvp is somthing devs add when they are out of ideas

[patent flume]

F2P can compete in PVP 🤣 if you cannot then your doing something wrong. P2P get things faster their not at all better in anyway F2P can defeat any P2P super easy, even those whales

[flint star]

i simply dont like pvp thats it

[patent flume]

Plus PvP event is simply get one player to sit outside station in a Realta and you smash it indefinitely boom a F2P becoming rank 1 easily

These PvP events requires no power or skill, just life hacks 😂 take out the cheese and cheese it

[narrow violet]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-it-bender-futurama-gif-5319722

[raw sun]

Well if scopele wants to make this game unplayable they can play with themselves then. Word choice intentional

[errant iron]

One of the most absurd assertions I've ever seen. I've spent relatively very little and completely wipe the floor with true f2p-ers. Just like how the actual whales completely wipe the floor with me. F2p can only realistically compete with people within a few levels of them usually and only if they do all the grind loops every day and refuse to ops up until they're absolutely sure they're ready. If they don't have the right officers like Freeman or the strike teams, they stand very little chance unless their target doesn't have them either.

[patent flume]

😂😂😂😂😂

You clearly doing something wrong then

F2P can easily beat P2P and also freeman crew is not solid SNW ST can easily demolish freeman

[hexed gorge]

2b Vs 20m yeah seems right

[patent flume]

Like I said difference between F2P and p2p is P2P get stuff faster.

[patent flume]

That has nothing to do with being f2p or p2p, that's just a player with no skill against a skilled player

You can get very high pure F2P ops

[hexed gorge]

Show me a f2p with a 2b ship

[patent flume]

Sure yeh because I have a list of all F2P players in my pockets 😂

It just sounds like your constantly getting attacked by whales 😷 P2P can lose just as easily as F2P players

[glacial kernel]

Let’s see a Ss of any 20 mill ship against a 100 mill ship winning no possible where is the skill?

Not the pvp that’s the problem it’s the ranges of power in the same bracket

[woeful prairie]

Not going to be popular here, but I like the Arc so far. I love the simple Gorn Loop and the rewards, I love the War Room. Maybe the PvP events could of been done a bit better but overall....I like it.

[patent flume]

20mil can easily kill 100m, power means nothing it all comes down to crews, research, buffs etc

[narrow violet]

I agree compared to the SILENT loop, gorn is pretty good and easy

[glacial kernel]

Seriously I can be hit by ships well over 100 mill with less than 10 mill no amount off buffs, crew or anything available will give a win again no skill involved

[hexed gorge]

I like the loop, I like the PvP aspect, but they need to tighten up the lvl brackets for PvP. I'm running round with a 130m ship hitting 20-50m as that's what I've been incentivised to do. But it's not right

[narrow violet]

Here is an example the player was ops 54, your right all goes down to crew when attacking this was against a PVE crew so pretty easy did have to tap twice

[patent flume]

Could you rephrase that your 10mil can kill 100mil? Or your getting wiped by 100mil ?

[foggy knoll]

This game is no longer playable

[still crag]

There are a lot of systems for nothing. Why not concentrate the pvp event there? For good loot.

[narrow violet]

Took 50%. Power isn’t everything

[glacial kernel]

I’ve been hit by players with ships well over 100 mill my biggest ship isn’t even 9 mill

[still crag]

There would be systems for all. Example. If the system is lvl 40 then over and under five lvl .

[glacial kernel]

Ok now crew the big ship for pvp as it is a pvp event and post

[patent flume]

So? That's just because of the bad PvP range, am ops 67 can kill and ops 44 that's not P2P Vs F2P example that's just an overpowered player killing little players

(yes ops 67 is a P2P player but not the point)

[narrow violet]

freeman ain’t that good

[arctic knoll]

The Gorn rewards are good and the war room has potential, but the PVP needs to some restriction and the bands really need to be fixed

[glacial kernel]

Crews can make a difference but when the power gap is over 100 mill I got better chances of being hit by lightning or winning the lotto

[narrow violet]

Give me a second I will got a 100 difference SS from an ally

@glacial kernel

124m power difference the lower power won

[glacial kernel]

Ok make one an auger

Or D4 or ent

[narrow violet]

Why?

That wouldn’t be an example of P2P just higher ops hitting down to g3

[glacial kernel]

I appreciate what your showing but don’t have freeman and best ships are g3 under 10 mill

[narrow violet]

Augur g3 vs valdore g4

That players was ops 46 I was 44

[glacial kernel]

That was my point without the pvp crews it’s not feasible

And I’m only ops 36

[narrow violet]

If you get SNW ST use with your augur you will be able to punch up easily. Just don’t expect 10+ ops punch up unless enemy has bad setup

[lapis drift]

Well someone didn’t do their research 😅

[glacial kernel]

Punching up was never the problem but the difference in power due to ops pvp officers and research the pvp does have an element of strategy in crewing but when that gap becomes so huge players can hit you with no threat it’s not skill

[narrow violet]

It just shows freeman is beatable, everyone think she killed the other crews. I have freeman but only ever use SNW ST on my augur (I’m ops 46). Augur is cheap for PvP

[nocturne cave]

a 100 mill ship is prop a tier higher in the ship tree. no way ur beating that ;p not with the 1 round pvp meta

[ruby gull]

Purge month, how many will each server lose? 25%

[errant cedar]

The Warchest rewards are very disappointing and very low for the involvement to obtain them. At OPS 64, it's embarassing and I have leveled my war room to lvl 21 already. And it is only giving a couple million in Para, Tri, Dith and ta thoudand for the G6 materials. Those numbers should be in the billions, ten thousands. just saying.

[velvet phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/do-this-and-you-will-be-greatly-rewarded-randy-marsh-south-park-do-it-i-have-a-reward-gif-21989636

[autumn hinge]

That's the big issue, all this encouragement for PVP, making people miserable, starting server wide wars, and for what?

[fallen coral]

Who did you use as below decks?

[wind fog]

No surprise the rewards suck. The incursion rewards are terrible compared to the time and effort.

[worthy condor]

At L49 I can do everything right I ain't going to win against L60 +

[velvet phoenix]

But but but the ex borg got a very very very useful addition 🤣

[next tendon]

With this arc they are going to end the game on my server, we have about 900 players, at most, I think there are about 300 total active players. And in just one day of the arc, 15 already said goodbye.
And the most curious thing of all is that 10 of them are those who spend money in the game. But everything spent does not serve them the following month and with this arc all the investments in Texas xindi. It doesn't help them to spend €300 on a ship and upgrade it to be able to kill hostiles better and now they can't use it because of the event. 🤣🤣🤣

If what they want is for people to stop playing this time they are showing off. People are already tired of having to invest in something new every month. so now I can't use any.
On my server there are two alliances that group together almost all assets and levels 53+. They clearly have about 25 times more points than the 3rd in the ranking with what all the other alliances are thinking, the players leave the game and kill each other between the 180 of those two alliances

[nocturne cave]

f2p lacks every prime that a spender will get their hands on. also no pvp ft's , enough slots for fleet commanders and their synd is prob very low.

[jolly jackal]

hey everyone, for the ARC SLB, it says if u place 1st u get 100k points.. does this refer to normal everyday SLBs or only the ARC SLBs? coz i got 1st place in a normal SLB but didnt get any points.. just wondering

[narrow violet]

Can’t rem sorry this was taken ages ago

[idle barn]

If they keep this arc, making a server war, I'm done with the game myself. We chose to make 84 a self style play alliance and now we have no choice. This game has enough problems with glitches. With the forced war mentality that scopely has created, thinking people will spend more because of this, I think they are pushing a lot of us out of the game. It's bad enough that a level 60 can attack a level 40, now they give the whales incentives to get them to attack more of us. You guys are ruining the game. Thanks but no thanks for me.

[next tendon]

There are certainly those who make a territory event when several lvl 65s enter with 2000 m ships in a takeover and kill everyone. Explain to me how to make the event points

78 players without sending a ship to the territory and without finishing the event

[patent flume]

When the war room meets your lvl it will be better. Cannot complain just yet have to see what the ops 64 war room looks like at lvl 64

[narrow violet]

Compared to a Kehra BP form PvP chests this is awesome reward

Might be useless at low levels but still better then old ship bps

[next tendon]

@patent flume It is clear that at level 64 you would not leave anything alive in order to get the reward. but remember the big fish die of hunger if there are no small fish. and this bow will amaze the small fish

[patent flume]

Well considering it's a shared milestone being ops 64 means nothing 😂 also you can just hit a few feeshas opc and the war room milestones complete instantly

[next tendon]

@patent flume The war room is not shared and is the best prize of this arc

[narrow violet]

The milestone scoring is shared

Only the rewards are individual

[next tendon]

@narrow violet The war room box is not shared, it is per player level. and it is individual

and lasts 7 days

[narrow violet]

Read my comments the milestone is shared the rewards are not

[next tendon]

and start again

[heavy solar]

Oh? So when did all the primes get f2p path?

[patent flume]

Most primed have F2P path just gotta wait along time

[scarlet dock]

Before fixing the pvp mechanics they decide its a good idea to create a more forced pvp environment. Fixing the actual issues with pvp before making pvp a more common theme in the game would have been so much more well received. Many of us play plenty of pvp games, STFC in its current arrangement is not engaging pvp content.

Make the brackets mean something, make every engagement risky with an unknown outcome, and do what every other decent pvp game does and make pvp arenas and areas where people actual crew up to battle eachother. The current format is simply for griefing. Many of us would love to do some real pvp in this game, but the game is not designed with that in mind. You could do so much better to get more positive engagement in the pvp aspect, and it honestly would not take much... <@&509690795536941056>

[narrow violet]

@next tendon the scoring is shared like I said. The rewards are not

The milestone on the left is a shared scored between your alliance

A player could get just 1 kill and get the full rewards as their alliance completed milestones

It’s also mentioned this in the war room video

[next tendon]

@narrow violetI repeat you . As you say, no rewards. So what would you do with that building at level 64 and giving yourself a lot of resources. not leave anyone alive. It is designed only for the big ones, this is not pvp

[narrow violet]

No idea what you mean and why you keep bring up ops 64?

Lvl 64 player could literally get 1 kill and let their alliance do the rest and the lvl 64 player would still get full rewards

[next tendon]

I'm not complaining about the prizes. I'm complaining that this doesn't allow you to use all the other investments in the game like Xindi Voyager Mantis and other special ships since they are objectives and don't let you

@narrow violet

[narrow violet]

The buffs? Using a buff isn’t PvP

PvP is ship vs ship

[next tendon]

@narrow violetthe prize of the brave war box as you level up the building. and a level 64 has a lot of resources for those boxes. compared to a lvl 45

so 64 will not leave anyone alive

[narrow violet]

🤦‍♀️ you have lost me the cost of the chest is the same for every ops lvl

[next tendon]

@narrow violet y el premio es el mismo?

[narrow violet]

Ops 64 doesn’t have to kill anyone to get the rewards. They can kill just 1 player and still get them

[next tendon]

and the prize is the same? No. That's why I say that at a higher level, people will be more aggressive in this event, killing everyone.

[narrow violet]

The prize per ops is not the same

Every ops has the own rewards, but the milestone is the same for every ops

As it’s an alliance milestone not a player milestone

The rewards are player rewards

[next tendon]

Well, an alliance with players of maximum level 45. and another with players of minimum level 55. Do you think that the small alliance would do something? not just hide ships so they don't get killed

[narrow violet]

Like I mentioned once milestone completed which is super easy just hit a few feeshas opc. Then you don’t have to kill anyone for a week

Killing doesn’t change the rewards

Upgrading the building changes the rewards

[next tendon]

@narrow violet leave it alone. You talk about one thing and I talk about another, I'm talking about how a lvl 64 should not be able to kill a 45 or a level 10 in territory. and you only have to kill one

[narrow violet]

You keep changing the subject, my original point was at early lvl building the rewards would be low.

Killing players has got nothing to do with that

[next tendon]

On my server, the large alliance in the first 30 minutes cleaned the entire server and had 30k points, the second only 120 points.

[narrow violet]

The rewards don’t change per kills you do

[narrow violet]

Your talking about something else again

You cannot see other alliances war rooms so what you talking about now?

[next tendon]

@narrow violet I'm not talking about anything else, I'm talking about the same thing from the beginning. but you do not understand me

[narrow violet]

You no what I don’t care anymore, you tried to prove me wrong but failed then you keep changing the subject. So I give up trying to explain that the rewards in war room only change per building lvl and the milestones are an alliance shared score and the rewards are a player reward only based on the building lvl and your ops

[narrow violet]

I’m talking about war room your talking about other alliances scoring points?

I am not talking about any events whatsoever

[next tendon]

I think there is a PvP event that is ranking. or not? Well, I explained the points of an alliance in 30 minutes of play. compared to the following alliance so that you understand that an open PvP He doesn't let the kids do daily activities or anything at events.

[narrow violet]

The PvP event and war room are two different things

The PvP events don’t score towards war room, the war room stuff counts towards war room which is listed if you click the “!” Inside the building

[next tendon]

Well, a low-level alliance does nothing in either of the two when it is crushed by the big one and they cannot even continue with daily for those two things.

[narrow violet]

Once more I was talking about the war room building not PvP events

Low alliances don’t need power to score in war room, they just gotta hit an opc miner

[next tendon]

j if they count. Dead enemy counts for both.

pvp event how many enemy dead. and in the war room he counts dead enemy.

[sweet kiln]

does base raiding count materials for war room?

[narrow violet]

That’s only way to score for war room. This is not an event, this is a new weekly activity

[next tendon]

@narrow violet whatever you say is worth it. The pvp event is perfect as is. that's what you want to hear

[narrow violet]

Any alliance can do it even a 1 player alliance at ops 30

[narrow violet]

Once more I was not talking bout the PvP event

I was talking about the rewards increase as you upgrade the building

[patent flume]

👀 can a brick wall talk to a brick wall 🤣 neither of you are talking about the same thing and both arguing 😂

[next tendon]

@patent flume My entire conversation is because of this comment. now you understand what you want

@narrow violet

@patent flume I was just commenting on what you said. I don't know why the topic got diverted. I use a translator . the same was for that

[patent flume]

My comment was the same thing it doesn't matter your ops the milestone in war is shared by alliance. I am ops 39 got one kill and was able to collect full rewards from war room as my alliance completed the milestone already

[next tendon]

@patent flume and I said that when a 64 has the building at level 64 it will give him a lot of resources and then he will not leave anyone alive to collect it

[patent flume]

Looking at other players the only difference in rewards was the mats mine had G3 where others had G4 or G5. The par trot Dil was the same across the board

[cobalt dew]

fix the ghost ships! ... sheesh they're everywhere still

[patent flume]

A lot of resources yes but he only needs 1 kill to collect it if his alliance has completed the milestones

[next tendon]

@patent flume Yes, I know that. but you think it will only kill one.

will kill to get also in pvp event

[patent flume]

If in s140 🤣 they don't need rewards they kill just because they can

[worthy plaza]

jelly...cardy...fed...sheesh, like shooting fish in a barrel. did someone in event design just really really hate PvE players?

[next tendon]

@worthy plaza 🤣🤣🤣 cambiaron con este evento el formato total del juego.

[stable crow]

there's an update available for all platforms, seems to fix it.(except maybe ones bogged down by Apple approval)

[hot palm]

sooooo, server wide pvp event where everyone is unhappy but then force EVERYONE with decent ops range to hunt way too many of the same cardassians in the ONE system we have for it? Yeah, nicely done!

[last hemlock]

Scopely needs to start gifting out battle pass points if they’re going to keep giving us events that can’t be completed during forced PvP

[cobalt dew]

Just saw the update... will see if that works... yesterday they were saying "we fixed it just restart your game" ...

[stable crow]

yesterday they said that restarting the game would fix the issue temporarily, and that a lasting fix would be released today.

[velvet phoenix]

3 different grinding events, best arc runner ever
Disney would love to give him a job too

[woeful prairie]

Scopley I think you need to provide water to your players. Most are dehydrated from all the crying about a PvP event that’s going on for a few days. It’s not that bad folks. Oh Scopley is forcing me to do stuff….im a victim……poor me. 😂😂😂

[teal iris]

Add high-level PvP rules to your server's RoE. Scopely didn't create any RoE, everything up to this point has been up to each server to determine how to handle things.

[near radish]

Redeem code JGAL for 5 m’banga shards for those who hadn’t seen it yet

[leaden geyser]

That's not a real solution as it requires people to adhere to ROE and how do you enforce that? I have a hard time believing that those who are mission point sniping will cooperate. The simple fact is that the rules of the game have changed, almost a breech in contract if you will. I'm not against PvP but would prefer it to be voluntary and would prefer that the odds be even. What's the point of a PvP event if everyone you encounter is punching down 100x?

Our server got into a routine last night, where one system was a PvP system. You go there, expect to be attacked, that's the contract and so what happened is that people, me included, were sending low-level ships to get blown up by high-level players. I'm not mad, because that was the unwritten agreement

[neat ruin]

Please tell me this event is ending in 3 days and never coming back because now even my miners are getting hit

[twin bear]

Did they stop selling points packs to force people to do the Cardassian Hostile Hunt 🤔 usually I just get a pack and skip it 🤣

[nocturne cave]

this will go on for ever. the war room will make sure of that

[teal iris]

There will always be rogues that don't follow RoE, it shouldn't deter the majority from trying to come up with a plan. It sounds like your server has the right idea in trying to control the chaos a bit. My server is doing the same, in trying to setup a system for PvP.

[leaden geyser]

Still, this is something that was forced upon us and is dependent upon everyone cooperating. Not great for people who have been enjoying the game for what it was and just want to have fun

I'd be happy if they did something similar to the incursion shielding, where PvP only scores in systems of a certain level. It will suck because you have to be careful where you go, but at least you know there are systems where you're less likely to get attacked

[teal iris]

Agreed. There has also been a suggestion of PvP brackets based on power level or narrowing the OPS gap (say a 39 can only hit down to a 32, instead of the high 20s).

[quiet patio]

I don’t get it. The demarcation line events were… one event?

[teal iris]

The arc goes until May 28

[bronze loom]

@cosmic steeple I moved alliances moments after reset yesterday to be with a more pvp fun group. It appears that my warroom is locked to my previous alliance. Any idea if that is permanent or just for this week? I know I am stuck for the mission key Alb and any other albs until the timer runs out but I don't see any way of know how it works for an alliance tied building.

[stable crow]

it's on Tuesday and Thursday.
check the event schedule in #💫-event-information message

[leaden geyser]

Also a good idea.

[ashen wharf]

the gal to do cardassians the day after arc release

they clearly hate this community 🤣

[crystal stream]

@pseudo rune please change the war room warchest to not include points for miners outside tc takeovers. You just make it an galaxy wide pvpfest permanently as people can say they are working on their watchest. That is 2500 kills every week. 358 a day.

[patent flume]

Where are you getting those figures from? Current milestone is 50m go and steal 50m lat or c lat and it's done easily. Also only opc miners count. They get hit anyways

[narrow violet]

Or 50m materials or isogen

[narrow violet]

It’s also an alliance milestone, if you did kills only you don’t need 2500 kills yourself my alliance has 61 members so that’s 40 kills each a week 5 a day (rounded up) 😂 it’s not many. We did ours by hitting opc miners milestone completed in first hour or so

[cosmic steeple]

Sould be able to ping support and they can help.

[paper venture]

Anyone else coming up 100 points short on the new missions sms? I done all I have and 100 points short.

[fiery compass]

if you're ops 34-37 there's a mission that you should have access to that required deep space access; when that's fixed it'll be back and you'll be able to finish the SMS

[paper venture]

Oh brilliant Scopley #quality. Thanks though.

[errant cedar]

It blows chunks

[humble moon]

I've spent more time complaining on Discord than playing the game, so there's that I guess.

[grizzled mulch]

@cosmic steeple I’m sure you’ve gotten this many times already, but please pass along that not a single G5 or G6 player (minnow, dolphin, or whale) on my server is happy about the War Room chest. We”re mostly pretty insulted by the amounts. Absolute trash, even once our WR’s are caught up to our Ops. (EDIT: Definitely not the Klingon version of the Treasury)

[crystal stream]

It is not about being able to finish, it is about preventing the worst elements of the game using it to justify just hitting miners and saying it is for this event. My server has some of the most toxic players on it. This is all the justification they need to do whatever they want.

[narrow violet]

My server toxic players don’t need a reason they kill for zero rewards just to brag 🤦‍♀️ I wonder if their is such a thing as a peaceful farmer server 😂

[jolly sun]

That would be in a EU server, even during our blood sport …miners, token space, armadas are off limits

[grizzled mulch]

US56 is pretty close, and we wreck during Incursions. One big mostly-happy family

[narrow violet]

This is what servers need to do join forces as one to wreck another server

Incursions might be competitive then 😂

[crystal stream]

The best thing about incursions is the loot exo and speeding up the grinds. Raiding is a joke now unless you catch a whale or titan.

I have aaidnit before, make the bade raid limited to the max cargo displayed, so for amalgam, the over loot is lost points. Then bigger mining ships score more points. And let mining and pve count too. This will give those that don't want pvp something to do to help besides throw up a shield and come back in a day.

[jolly sun]

Enter the multiverse

[dire fossil]

The War-Chest Keys, anyone know if you get to hoard them or must they be used in a certain amount of time?

[scenic parcel]

This game has turned into a cake and arxe party. Too much new content too quick. The business model is obvious. Get them to spend £1000s because people with lives or who are scholars will just spend it to progress. Please stop with the new content, get rid of the 2000 bugs you have in your backlog and let us enjoy the game

[spice berry]

Way to go Scopely.... these last changes turning it into a whales pirating smalls pvp shooter are pretty disgusting. This is no fun. Uninstalling.

[scenic parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[hollow dome]

https://tenor.com/view/gokublack-dbs-gif-23032992

[scenic parcel]

I wonder if Scopely know what a bug cap is?

[bronze loom]

How do I ping support?

[hollow dome]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-gif-13161012535429590073

[scenic parcel]

Lady A. Click on your avatar, go to settings, then legal and help then look bottom right of your screen and click on the speach bubble.

It's AI so be ready with screen shots

and what the issue was.

[minor bough]

It's official. I hate the war room . Can't even hardly do basic tasks without dying from much higher players.

[scenic parcel]

Don't expect a quick response unless it's a known issue

Hey Bronze. I'm in 105. I've found some lower level players and just gone out to a system where no one would be and let them hit me. There are other players out there like that.

Use the chat as much as you can

A lot of whales will be happy to help you.

[thorn star]

Congratulations Scopely for making so many people quit the game over your new Arc 👏

[scenic parcel]

Just buddy up.

Time for an old man's nap. Catch you all later.

[leaden gale]

Terrible

[leaden geyser]

Travels 5 minutes to get to a system, gets immediately attacked and destoyed. Awesome job guys.

[weary flint]

So, if the aim was to make the event area in the game as confusing as possible, then scopely has done a great job.👍

[languid gulch]

#⭐-official-announcements message

When community manager hates the ar so much even they go on vacation LMAO

[leaden geyser]

I’ve been party to some bungled feature updates so I have some sympathy for him

[feral barn]

Mudd you need a full radar Scan before arcdrop and empty one after. Lol

[tough forge]

F2P players just started getting their Monaveens, yay great! A week later pvp event comes out so they can’t use what they were designed for, auto farming. wtg Scopely.

[patent flume]

Monaveen is designed for PvP also go to field training last milestone you have to deal 1B iso damage to players using the monaveen

[narrow violet]

Great for PvP 💪 using a battleship crew SNW ST

[tough forge]

1 milestone and lots of better ships for pvp

[pastel flower]

💩

[ornate geyser]

Oh that reminds me…time to clear Delta of Moana farmers…

[somber carbon]

For PVP events, as they were created, the community is on strike: from now on they will not spend even a single euro in favor of Scopely.

[undone garnet]

Apex tomorrow is going to be a 💩 storm.

[thorn star]

We have a had about 25 to 30 quit the game already I'm sure more to come

[cobalt totem]

And 23-28 of those will be back within a week

I doubt the average rage quitter knows how to properly put their addiction and emotions into perspective 😉

[teal iris]

Indeed. They will check back to see if anything is different

[sage mango]

especially since there's only more crap out there and no real good star trek games

[teal copper]

I hate this pvp event need to keep these events to selected systems

[teal iris]

Many servers are agreeing to do just that.

[maiden flint]

These pvp events are very annoying and causing me to not even enjoy playing anymore. Can’t get dailies or events done with out getting 20+ times. Please please stop these kind of events where pvp is galaxy wide. Limit to only certain systems as in the past.

[teal copper]

But there are many being jerks here just trying to gind out xindi scraps and the new systems and i keep getting people who are 4 or 5 time my power hitting me

[maiden flint]

Agree

[teal copper]

They need to make all token space no hit and any gind it out system

[lapis sparrow]

Unbelievable what dopely is doing. Make sure cant do events dailies or territory defence. Whats next? Mandatory pay to play?

[gray ravine]

PVP in this game is far too unbalanced to make unrestricted PVP events. This is the last straw for me. I'm out

[cobalt totem]

See you next week

[crystal stream]

@eco, for the war room and pvp events, especially since you are pushing klingons and fighting with honor, how about you all make miners, that have no opc (or zero node) lose pvp points for miner kills. That way it limits fights to warships.

[winged agate]

95% of players this Arc be: https://tenor.com/view/lower-decks-borg-star-trek-gif-18037966

got my point for the alb, ignoring the rest

[somber carbon]

Miners do not score PVP points

[winged agate]

they do count as wins for the war room event

whether active or not.

[pearl bluff]

where can i initiate the mission chain: Slay It Again, Sam?

[dreamy patio]

it was pulled from the holodeck for lower level players, it will be returned before the event is over

[pearl bluff]

where did they mention that mission was being pulled for the time being??

[dreamy patio]

It wasn't mentioned publicly, we were told to inform you that it's being worked on.

[pearl bluff]

ok

[umbral glen]

I guess auto grinding with the monaveen is no more? With this war room is the game now fully pvp?

[pearl bluff]

dont know as i dont have the monaveen yet myself

[quasi mountain]

Great job forcing half of every server into barely playing @spiral current

[umbral glen]

Well being mostly f2p if the game has changed to full pvp I guess after 5 years I'll have to find another game to play.

[pearl bluff]

the server that im on is not fully pvp yet

[umbral glen]

That's going to be rough as I like this game but if the pvp is going to hinder my growth why play it.

[peak cairn]

It’s up to your server to figure that out. Things like ROE have always been up to players to decide.

[umbral glen]

All servers have bad apples lol

[pearl bluff]

agreed

[lapis harbor]

You know as an admiral I’m getting really tired of hearing how people are wanting to quit because of this utterly stupid arc

[umbral glen]

Perhaps that's what scopely wants, nothing but people that pay to play I don't pay because the amount of items you get aren't worth it to me for the price. Plus the game has so many frustrating glitches.

[lapis harbor]

This arc SUCKS!!!!!!

[umbral glen]

Agreed

I'm confused with the war room is the game now pure pvp? Or is the pvp for just this arc?

[lapis harbor]

But hey glad you get to go on vacation 👍🤣

[cobalt totem]

Why would you think the game is now pure PvP?

[leaden geyser]

They are merging servers which may indicate a high attrition rate. Less people playing who spend money would be more profitable, so who knows

[umbral glen]

That's what I'm asking is it now a pvp game or just this arc? For the week? War room has me confused.

[lilac musk]

I’m confused why you think this hasn’t always been a PvP game?

[acoustic bear]

There are gonna be pvp events during this arc. For sure there are multiple ways to make points for the war room@umbral glen

[lilac musk]

Just because player make ways to get around conflict doesn’t mean the game isn’t what it’s meant to be

[acoustic bear]

Lol

[umbral glen]

Not being able to auto grind in the automated shipyard or for xp keep getting hit now where as before on my server people pretty much left your auto grinders alone.

I know it's always been pvp but has scopely decided to push for more pvp.

[leaden geyser]

Yes. My miner keeps getting blown up. I thought miners didn’t count towards the score

[acoustic bear]

Any opc amount counts in the war room.

[leaden geyser]

If there’s no opc then no score, so they’re just being a jerk

[dreamy patio]

every ship kill is 20k points on the war room

crystal/gas/ore/iso is 1 point per opc

[leaden geyser]

And if you aren’t opc?

[dreamy patio]

20k points per ship, regardless of cargo

[acoustic bear]

Miners are 20k?? Oh wow plus there is a multiplier for territory

[dreamy patio]

surveys are exempt from the slb and alb event, but they count for the war room

[leaden geyser]

So…mining isn’t safe, great job

[acoustic bear]

Lol I didn't know that haha! They are so lucky Im on probation.

[novel prism]

The annoying thing, to me, is the change in the TD meta as a result; an uncontested td is now all surveys just sitting there staring at each other... such a waste of what could have been such an opportunity for pvp... localizing it to territory, for example, would have worked soooo much better...

[cobalt totem]

Scopely has always been pushing for more PvP. This isn’t the first server - wide PvP event.

Get together with your server and make some agreements on where to focus PvP (designate systems) if it’s impacting you so much

[river obsidian]

there's no motivation for that. RoE work for miners as everyone needs to mine and mining ships are comparatively squishy. But for other ships, a whale can protect their PVE crewed ship with a PVP crewed ship for missions and dailies while also sweeping through any lower levels trying to do the same

[umbral glen]

We already do that but there's always the bad apples around just sucks to have to babysit in the automated shipyard instead of letting it grind offline

[cobalt totem]

Just brainstorming here: how about a rule where ships auto farming are to be left untouched?

[cobalt totem]

Bad apples are bad apples, no matter what scopely does…

[leaden geyser]

How about scopley just fix what they broke?

[river obsidian]

what's the motivation? bigger players have no need to acquiesce to such rules

[umbral glen]

Trying to get admirals together on agreeing automated shipyard is out for pvp benefits everyone

[keen mist]

Kill their coattail riders then, they always have some.

[river obsidian]

which generates more pvp. Whichever way you look at it, the ones who benefit are the ones who enjoy PVP - especially the whales - at the expense of those who want to do missions and dailies and not trigger the next server war

[keen mist]

The more alliances you can get on your side the better, but yes not everybody will like it. What's the alternative, take it? Quit?

[pearl bluff]

or wait for the whales to log off then do the missions and dailies

[keen mist]

Unless you're on a hellscape server, low pop but high numbers of dongs.

[river obsidian]

the point is, while there was nothing preventing people from being anti-social and attacking other players for the sake of it, there wasn't anything motivating them either. They got no reward from it other than whatever kicks they get out of exerting their power over weaker players. Now, there is a reward, and given the power disparity, such inclined players can one-shot other ships without incurring any damage or costs to themselves.

seems like some players are deciding to quit, or at least shield up and see how it plays out. I'm currently doing my dailies and missions when most of the server sleeps (it's 4:20am here now)

[keen mist]

Just another frustration in a long line of frustrations, trying to get you to spend or quit.

[river obsidian]

Scopely might discover sooner or later that the whales depend on the vast numbers of other players to keep their game fun

[pearl bluff]

ive already completed all of the events, missions, & dailies that i can for the day, popped a 7-day shield yesterday to ride out the initial chaos of the new arc, before i decide whether or not i want to run pvp ops

[river obsidian]

I'm holding out on the current battle pass unlock. No point spending more money on the game if the server's going to go down in flames

[leaden geyser]

Quitting sounds good, I’ve done it before

[storm narwhal]

This hairbrained idea is going to lose a number of players who aren't into pvp.

[keen mist]

I tried to quit but I just quit tryin'

[nocturne cave]

warrroom is just pvp that scores. so yes its pretty bad

[torn crescent]

Are there any other Gorn systems lower than 51? Can’t even scratch them. This making everything exponentially more difficult has me now not even buying the BP. That’s is zero dollars for Scopely.

[fiery compass]

40,43,46,49, just to the right of lower rom DS.

[torn crescent]

Thank you.

[twin verge]

unless they are hunting you it's hardly an inconvenience

[pearl bluff]

true, unless you are actively being targeted the dont worry about pvp. i would like to know if there are gorn systems for players below ops 40

[fiery compass]

the lowest gorn system that i'm aware of is the L40 system (with Gorn Hunters that have Isomatter; there's technically unrelated Gorn hostiles elsewhere)

[leaden geyser]

Everyone is actively being targeted, so we’re forced to worry about it

[pearl bluff]

i wasnt being targeted today when i was running around killing hostiles and completing missions/events but im not delusional either

[leaden geyser]

I was. Almost immediately

Had my miner, not opc, destroyed multiple times, dude cleared the entire system

You know how you send a ship into hostile faction space and then you forget about it and a faction enforcer destroys you? That’s the game now

[abstract gate]

Already have 3 players in my alliance thinking of quitting game. Lower 30s ops and keep getting targeted by much bigger players. Good job scopely. Just a slap in face to those who have worked hard for years on a game they found enjoyable and made new friends along the way

https://tenor.com/view/some-just-want-watch-world-burn-gif-18269093

[clever dove]

So are the new grinding loop shorteners going to be in the research tree? Cuz I don’t see them 👀 I only see the ones that were already there for swarm🤷🏻‍♀️

[craggy cave]

They enhanced the ones in ex Borg store if you’re talking about the qol improvements

[brave jetty]

Have 4 missions completed..which one am I missing

[pearl bluff]

Slay It Again Sam is being delayed for some reason

[brave jetty]

Ok thanks

[proud wing]

It was there, but removed temporarily, for adjustment.

[vestal goblet]

Ah. OK, that's why there have been whales hanging out in odd places.

[indigo heron]

it's not. it's for ops38+ they'll probably send 100pts autocompletion to everyone who has 500pt sms target for complete new missions

[dreamy patio]

It was pulled to be fixed, will be back before the event ends

[indigo heron]

then it's back

[dreamy patio]

it never left for higher ops players

it was removed for lower ops to be fixed, and will be returned

[brittle mulch]

1 member from our alliance quit the game yesterday and 2 put up 7-day shields and "will see" after that

[frank kettle]

I’ve been knocking out dailies and setting a 24. Gets easier to not log on the more you don’t. If the game doesn’t adjust back I’ll quit.

[reef heart]

7 day shield is useless because war room event seems a permanent event: 1 credit to unlock related research and we need 100 credits

It's better to start to learn how to play as we played more than 4 years ago, choosing and changing system to do dailies

[frank kettle]

Maybe. I’ve been playing since Covid. For me, I like to play the game the way it’s been. I don’t want to play this new way. The only reason I haven’t quit yet is because of how much money I’ve spent over the years. So I get that some like this new, but I don’t and a lot of others don’t. So for now, I’m just waiting to see if they go back, if the adjust events to compromise or if they chose to stay this course. If it’s the latter, then this just won’t be the game for me anymore. All good things eventually end. It is what it is.

[trail igloo]

Im complete opposite of where you are. Seems no matter which direction scopely goes players leave. Almost as if thats by design.🤔

[lapis drift]

A lot of people don’t like it. IMO, the war room was introduced to frustrate lower ops players into spending to get bigger. Lower ops will get tired of players several ops higher hitting them, they will spend to lvl up. It’s not working out that way. They are quitting instead.

[thorny pawn]

man so many are gaming this stupid event with realta parties 🤣

[lapis drift]

Tried that. Whales come in and wipe everyone out with their billion power ships. Why? Because they can

[empty ridge]

and then you repair it instantly because it's a realta. sad every pvp event is defeated by a realta party

[thorny pawn]

they do scatter when a whale shows up to a different system. the whale only gets a couple of kills. I was watching one and those realtas scatter fast. 🤣

[lapis drift]

Yeah that’ll work. They just sit there and wait for you to come back. I’m not going to spend hours repairing a ship that gets blown up as soon as I enter a system.

[thorny pawn]

just more proof that a lot of the guys that build these arcs and create these events don't play the game. they have no clue at all

[empty ridge]

if it's taking you hours to finish the sms in a realta party I'm not sure what to say, I finished the event in about 20 minutes blowing up stellas

[lapis drift]

I’m not doing the event because I think it’s stupid. Like I don’t do incursions either.

[thorny pawn]

I completed the sms pretty quickly. I don't care anything about the slb and my alliance doesn''t care anything about the alb. no one is interested in pushing realtas around all day 🤣

[empty ridge]

that's cool, don't make up lies about it then, the event is not hard to complete

[lapis drift]

Lower ops here can’t do it. They come in gc asking for help. So you can show that up comment your brown penny ( if you don’t know what that means I’ll explain it to you)

[empty ridge]

you get points in the sms for losing a battle, and the slb is bracketed by ops level. they're fine

[lapis drift]

He’s an ops 25 looking for help with the event.

[severe hedge]

I hate this new arc!

[empty ridge]

there's a ton of events that aren't available at all below ops 35ish, and the "war room challenge" is an alliance score, he doesn't have to do anything at all

[ancient light]

How much are you getting for being the $copley parrot? lol

[empty ridge]

just annoying that people have been complaining in here for 48 hours straight that the game is unplayable when the event isn't even hard, and they refuse to even try

[spice nimbus]

Yes you can do the pvp easy but you can't really do much of anything else

[raw laurel]

Getting crushed by whales isn’t “doing PvP”

[spice nimbus]

Exactly

Scoplay says you don't have to participate so I should be able to opt out so I can actually play the parts of the game I like without being hit

[proud wing]

I don’t think they consider “being steamrollered whilst being passive” to be participation, participation is “actively engaging in PvP as an attacker”.

[teal iris]

So....why not try a different server?

[glacial kernel]

Not aware of a way to do that unless ops 12 or under did I miss something

[ancient light]

same issue across servers

[glacial kernel]

I was pretty sure that was the case but wanted to make sure ty

[jolly sun]

I’m slightly in awe and scared at the same moment

[teal iris]

Unless you've visited every server, that's a broad statement. (Spoiler alert - it isn't true)

[teal iris]

You'd have to restart on a new server to check it out. You can go back to your "main" account anytime as long as you don't overwrite it with your scopely account

[finite cypress]

For scopely, this is a balanced battle. Of course it is.

[glacial kernel]

more fair than a 120 mill ship against a 9-10 mill ship

[jolly sun]

Fly with another expendable, speed fitted ship to intercept attackers

Hostile grind with friends some pve and some pvp

There is a whole heap of tactics you could try

[leaden geyser]

Good morning, how many times has your ship been destroyed this morning? I'm up to at least 3 within the last half hour YAY!

[leaden geyser]

Aside from the server-wide free-for-all most of my battles look like this

[glacial kernel]

Power doesn’t necessarily mean much considering I’ve seen battle logs of players winning against players over 100 mill

[leaden geyser]

You're right. Getting your ship destroyed by adversaries 100x more powerful than you isn't hard at all

[reef heart]

I am a low player, I have not spent, I am not spending and I will not spend money and I was happy, I am happy and I will be happy to play this war room/PvP event. very few high level players hit me because I know how to avoid them even if they are targeting me. The problem is if low players know how to avoid after 4 years of hostiles

[leaden geyser]

Yes, but you didn't have to before the new arc and you shouldn't have to now, which is the point everyone is trying to make

[jolly sun]

Unfortunately it takes two to tango

[crimson yacht]

On our server there are certain alliances camping out systems where you have to complete your non-pvp events, so this event is a big fail for qol.

[trail igloo]

Funny all the pve content released in that past 1yr the only complaints from PVPers really was "fix the loops too much and not efficient for all", and in all that time 1 very potentially fun and good PVP event comes out and the Pve community melts down. Lmao thats great. Keep up the good work scopely, let them feel the opposite side of the argument. No more farmville. Woohooo

[dreamy patio]

If that was the only complaint you saw, you haven't been paying attention

[trail igloo]

Oh its more for sure but hey lets stir stuff up. 😂

[jolly sun]

Take it maybe the very top ones, if not that sounds like a perfect spot to counter them

What we did feast on those griefing the smaller players, more PD for us😆

[glacial kernel]

The complaint isn’t the pvp it’s the inability for many to even complete dailies without getting dusted constantly

[trail igloo]

War with words it what all they ever want. So here i am. I cant kill ships till merger so i came to fight with words

[teal iris]

Sounds more like a server problem. I'm guessing your server has a bunch of a-holes already.

[trail igloo]

You guys got it lucky then. My server is having "designated zones" for the event which os absolutely bs

[leaden geyser]

Or missions, or farming, or anything

[ancient light]

considering You a the only person to state otherwise I find your statement false. If your server is all unicorns and rainbows, what server is it, I will come check out your server of bliss

[jolly sun]

We agreed no miners, no token and no armadas.. everything else is game on

[teal iris]

Server 100. You can check the RoE from #🕵-server-discord-links2 . Hop into the server discord and see the discussions taking place

[leaden geyser]

Until the event is about to end then game on to be at the top of the SLB

[trail igloo]

*sarcasm Why players feel they need to rewrite what scopely designs is beyond me.

[jolly sun]

Naaa people cheesing 1st places

Really easy too

[leaden geyser]

I don't know what that means

[jolly sun]

Two people with the correct diplomacy status and sit and spam Realtas .. “cheesing” the win

You can use Feesha, meridians

Whole heap of ways to sly the score 😆

[leaden geyser]

Including clearing a system of miners

[jolly sun]

The time you’ve done that flying about, Mr Cheese is winning

[leaden geyser]

I still have no idea what any of that means

[jolly sun]

I’m sure if a post a step by step guide, I’m Hami’s first ban 🤣

[leaden geyser]

Fair enough

[glacial kernel]

Personally just think the pvp needs a lot of work and the game is not advertised as a pvp only game

[leaden geyser]

Seriously, it's like you're playing checkers and then suddenly it's a chess game without warning

[glacial kernel]

So events that exclude many from that part of the game is a valid concern

[jolly sun]

We should have a central goal, we all working towards and PvP, etc is the side shoot of it .. maybe then everyone wouldn’t hate us so much 😅

[serene helm]

Yeah not sure that’s what scopley wanted these cheese 🧀

[leaden geyser]

I am not opposed to PvP play. What I am opposed to is PvP taking over every aspect of the game and the power imbalance of PvP. If it was voluntary I'd be all for it, this is more like conscription

[jolly sun]

They in our server chat offering their cheese services 😂

[serene helm]

Maybe scopley can offer a cheese prime

[leaden geyser]

There's no skill involved with PvP it's just whales with 100m power ships punching down. Aside from the sadistic satisfaction of hunting weaker prey, there is no honor in this, which is ironic, given it's based on the Klingon culture that places honor above all else

[trail igloo]

What part of roe on your server protects your warships in non token space? On my server you can get hit anytime aywhere but token/swarm in a warship. There is no event no "conscription", its just daily life here.

[leaden geyser]

only $999.99

[trail igloo]

Its a warship ie War

[jolly sun]

Well if not done go grab your free 5* crit damage prime, will need a Voyager or Feesha

[glacial kernel]

A Klingon sees dying in battle as a glorious death so what honor would they seeing in fighting an opponent that has no chance of offering a honorable glorious death

[leaden geyser]

Most players tend to live and let live. You have some jerks who do whatever they want, but for the most part they leave you alone. I've had my ships destroyed more in the last 2 days then probably in the last month or so

[trail igloo]

Lol yeah its a mix here, used to be alot more pvp like that now server considers it a "pickle move" although legal in Roe

[serene helm]

Wonder how many have pvped on this event but not during incursions

[leaden geyser]

I have people who apologize for destorying my 0 node or opl miners and I'm like "yeah I' was sleeping, it's cool"

[leaden geyser]

I hate incursion too, but at least I can just shield up and wait it out

[trail igloo]

Oh man not me. Im glad i dont have to wait a month anymore for real pvp.

[leaden geyser]

And how many hundreds of millions of power level are your ships?

[trail igloo]

Hahah my biggest currently. 27 mil Kelvin

[leaden geyser]

2x my biggest ship. I'm less than 10 BPs short of the Kelvin

[trail igloo]

Noice its a great ship i love mine. I recommend not going past T6-7 as thats all youll need to get you to your 46 rare. And mats become more of a problem as does ships parts

[leaden geyser]

Which is the reason why it took me forever to max out my Enterprise 🤣

Those 3* unccomon Gas were annoying to get

[glacial kernel]

My best is my ent at barely 9 mill lol

[trail igloo]

It takes time and planning as mostly ftp " anyone under $100 monthly" falls here imo

[leaden geyser]

In one of our recent incursions there was a dude on the opposing team with a 1 billion power borg cube who was just wiping through everyone. Yeah, we lost that one

[ancient light]

Real pvp... the only "pvp" I ever see is people attacking players doing dailies... nothing like going after a PVE crew with a PVP crew on a ship that's 5-15 op levels higher... Ahhh the glory of the battle... Paleeeease...

[trail igloo]

See "pickle move" comment above.

[leaden geyser]

Or people who see you farming and wait until your defenses are low

The biggest issue with pvp is it requires 0 skill and strategy

Just a big-a ship

[trail igloo]

Stealing opc off warships is viable imo but hitting them empty working dailies is "pickle move". Piracy should always be welcome, else why have opc or upc conditions to begin with? Instead no killing players lol

Thats entirely incorrect

[ancient light]

Not true, officer crewing and ship type plays a major roll... just spend to get them

[trail igloo]

Ive had no issues killing much bigger ships or ops because A: Wrong crew , B: skipped important research
C: went against weapong triangle

[leaden geyser]

When you're 100m taking on a 10m ship how much does it matter who's on the crew?

[trail igloo]

Also dissaggre. Just won archer tucker phlox t2 last event. Spent zero $$

[leaden geyser]

How far are you punching up?

What crew can I use in my 12m Enterprise to take on the 100m talios?

[trail igloo]

Hmm 53 ops , my kelvin 27mil his Katinga 48mil poorly crewed.

But i hit lots and lots of squishy 49s, and if he spent correctly none of those factors wouldve mattered. Whale just means bigger, doesnt mean good at the game

[proud wing]

A couple of mortgages and some organ sales?

[ancient light]

Then state that in your comment - you made a blanket statement - emphasize that your talking about someone 15 ops level higher then you. I have beaten higher level ships and ops because they didn't have good crewing. And yes I am taking war ships not miners 🙂

[leaden geyser]

Waiting for scopley to introduce a credit card that earns points towards common refined gas

[proud wing]

Common? It’s called the Feesha isn’t it?

[ancient light]

disagree as well - you didnt win those events without spending..

[leaden geyser]

If you look at my previous comments they are primarily about how PvP has turned into whales punching down

It's sort of my theme

[ancient light]

sorry missed that l ol

[leaden geyser]

No worries

I would love PvP that leverages strategy and skill. That would be amazing. But so far it's just me having my floaters hit while I'm in the bathroom

[ancient light]

No stopping, no looking, no peeing!!! I'm out, have fun all and now a message from our sponsor: Shut up and spend!

[molten elm]

Imagine a PvP specific system where all primes were null and void. And officer abilities that weren’t over amplified and there was some skill to killing your opponent…. Imagine

[leaden geyser]

Yay! my floater got hit again

[glacial kernel]

No someone was just being courteous and flushed

[leaden geyser]

To be honest, I'd love to have a round-based, strategy and skill, level of PvP play. Not unlike the Real-time-arena in Marvel Strikeforce, where you can target parts of the ship and use skill. Apply Spock's skill to this or target the photon torpedos. Granted RTA quickly became just who had the larger of the latest and greatest team atm and people stopped using it so much that scopley moved it as far away from the main viewable area as possible

[leaden geyser]

I set that up, didn't I 🤣

[glacial kernel]

Couldn’t help myself needed a laugh

[leaden geyser]

And who could blame you

This is how much I hate this new arc, I've spent more time complaining about it on Discord than I have playing the game this morning 🤣 anyways I should do some work. Live long and prosper

[serene helm]

Probably more people have actually gone outside into the real world than play

[raw laurel]

“Turned into”?
It’s ALWAYS been punching down.

[stable crow]

maybe what could work as fun pvp is a mix between territory capture and wave defences.

you get matched with someone roughly your power level, you make a selection of ships and crews to bring(balance between warships and support ships)
your temporary stations get stuck to opposing edges of the system.
and you try to score points by getting more ships on the few nodes in the center, while trying to fight off the other player's ships.

strategy is in your pvp ship/crew choices, your support ships, your node sitters, and how you get past the other player to get ships on nodes.
during the fight your repair costs and repair time are lowered significantly, so you can easily and quickly get your ships back into the battle.

[finite cypress]

, That would never work, because you would randomly have whales fight whales and that would make the whales angry. Because they only have fun killing lower level players. And Scopely knows perfectly well that then they wouldn't take out their credit card.

[stable crow]

maybe they'd learn that fighting a worthy opponent is actually more fun.
and if not, it still leaves a place where everyone else can have fun doing challenging pvp.

and that can result in non-whales actually investing in broadening their pvp abilities with an occasional purchase of a ship refit, prime, or forbidden tech.

[glacial kernel]

Problem is most that have the massive ships love them but not the repairs thus hitting those that can’t damage you saves their resources

[stable crow]

missed the part where my idea includes a massive repair time and cost reduction?

[finite cypress]

Scopely is only interested in the players who put in money. The rest of us are not the objective of this company.

[tough forge]

Unbalanced, no strategy involved, totally negative gameplay game since arc launch. I will try and give it a month but if the Scopely strategy is gonna be to implement garbage PvP events then it will be time to find something else. The feeling is echoed amongst most of our alliance members.

[undone garnet]

Everyone looking forward to APEX armadas today?

[finite cypress]

An online game that does not have clear and concise official rules, forcing the players to invent the "roe" non-mandatory rules, already demonstrates the little commitment they have to the game and the players.

[trail igloo]

Actually its scopley "plants" players that introduce and suggest the Roe to new servers. Promotes better wars #fact

They even show em how to setup their server discord and link it for access directly to scopely sites

[finite cypress]

As you said, they are suggestions, they are not rules, therefore players can ignore them. and they do it, since scopely puts events so that they can skip them and with total impunity

As Spock would say, where's the logic?

[trail igloo]

Roe violaters that dont adress or remedy their errors are voted on by a senate and marked rogue on the server. Most quit or fix things fast when that happens.

[lapis drift]

No actually we “rogues” as people like to call us don’t. Scopely does not have an appointed roe. We follow the scopely TOS only. Most of use in the alliance I am in went rogue due to the self appointed dictators telling us how we should play our game. “Do as we say not as we do” demands. I used to be a roe abiding citizen. We don’t bow to the self server appointed gods.

[bitter snow]

tinfoil hat brigade over here 🤣

Having seen it a few times on new servers - the guys pushing ROE are generally people who either quit their old server or got chased off it, or just want to form the newbies in their own image of what perfect ROE should look like 😄

They also tend towards the whaley end, because they're the most invested in spending time in and around the game (for whatever reason)

[trail igloo]

Of course this is where
It is now and our roe evolved. I think the intent was to not have ppl perma kos players for little to no reason, honestly not sure. I can tell you id personally love it we did Tos rules only, but our entire universe would go into apocalyptic meltdown. Lmao

[teal iris]

Didn't mean to clown you. Dog jumped up on me while I was hovering on it. Must be BHRondeau's favorite emoji.

[trail igloo]

😆

@pseudo rune None of todays events reset. Battlepass is still Master Surveyor and shows 23hr timer

[clever dove]

Was wondering is slay it again Sam mission only available to ops 38+? My teammate is ops 36 and doesn’t seem to have that mission available to claim. This would leave them 100 points short of completing the mission

[raw laurel]

Well, if people wouldn’t be clownish, I’d have no reason to use it, would I? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[teal iris]

Do you also judge who is sane vs insane?

[trail igloo]

Well first of all you designation of who or what is clowinsh is open for debate. I merely stated how things are on my server, " not how i made them or want them ". So to which is your clown reffering?

[raw laurel]

Sometimes. Are you volunteering?

[teal iris]

Sure, why not

[serene helm]

The insane ones that are still playing 🤣

[trail igloo]

@raw laurel

[covert onyx]

You calling them Gods reminds me of this guy on the server I play on. Are you din from server 34 lol

[lapis drift]

Lmao no. 49. We have a whole god complex alliance here.

[covert onyx]

Lol ok was just wondering I'm in one of the top 10 alliance on that server and he calls us Gods for what he thinks of as us trying to control everything. We abide by the roe that was voted on and take actions on members that violation it in are alliance

[lapis drift]

We had a server voted on roe. Then the god complex alliance formed and decided not to follow it anymore. Most still follow it but their lap dogs decided to create their own.

[covert onyx]

Yeah with that kind of thing I can understand why yall would rebel. The rule for the not for me things doesn't fly

[lapis drift]

I had my own alliance. I decided to take in the “rogues”. They were playing by the rules following roe and playing nice. It was demanded I boot them or be marked KOS. I refused so I was marked. Now we are a server labeled rogue alliance. Now instead of 2 rogues, they now have 7

[covert frigate]

Anyone know when this month's Comp-Chest will be given out?

[carmine lily]

What’s with all the extra green triangles running about? New update just got pushed out and now these guys are everywhere!

[fleet gorge]

I have spent $ on this game in the past. Makes me a customer, I refuse to spend until scopely gives an adequate responce to the out of balance pvp, going against their own promise of fair and competitive, and until they enforce TOS. Since scopely has given no response, the response to be taken is they do not care about my money so they get none of it. People in game, not all but many, are hitting miners and armadas because scopely refused to fix the pvp gap. Most are not enjoying these events or the war room. Many rususe to waste resources to someone 27 levels above them. It is sad because this is a good game with potential to be great. If only scopely would listen to players that haven't dropped $250k in 5 years. There are a lot of spenders I know who know almost nothing of star trek other than it has been on TV.

[fickle imp]

is there a way to see whos contibuting to the war room chest in your alliance

[idle wasp]

How long is this awful pvp arc going to be? … it’s totally ruined this game imo … only thing I see at the moment is shielded bases and a lack of people online playing …

[keen mist]

Cloaked ships

[pale rain]

They broke cloaking again

[rough ridge]

Ok... just a simple poll... war room. 😊 for yes and 🙁 for no...or 😶 for unsure. Let scopely know how you feel directly.

[severe violet]

So I'm guessing without the nx. You can't compete in the slb.

[ebon wigeon]

Which 1?

[severe violet]

Iso damage

[ebon wigeon]

probably, even 3x on gorn don't give as many pts as hirogen

Aquatics having stupid high hhp means they would be best to hit but limited by tokens

[plush condor]

I was trying to figure out what people are hitting too. I am in 2nd with 400B pts, but the guy in 1st has 20T points. I don’t have the NX or tokens to try aquatics but haven’t been able to find a near suitable way to get the points.

[severe violet]

Best I can do is mantis. I get like 6 billion hitting 47s. I'll try 48s next. Idk

[crystal stream]

This entire month is going to be dedicated to spenders and money. I doubt a single ftp or low spender will win any of them.

[trail torrent]

They never do....

[blazing furnace]

Last month I didn't participate in any on the slbs because I couldn't. At least this past one I was able to participate without spending 💰. So for me this month is already better than last

[ebon wigeon]

Not completely true but is almost impossible these days

[plush condor]

Best my Mantis does on 49s, what crew are you using? Texas Space seems the best. I suspect Xindi Aquatics are mega points though.

[severe violet]

Pichard bev edata. My edata is t4

[versed stirrup]

How do I score high on Khitomer Accord Violations SLB?

[plush condor]

That’s what we’re talking about above

[versed stirrup]

I see people gaining 1-2T in no time

[ebon wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-luck-gif-13394498

[ancient meadow]

Oh look. Another pvp event.

[narrow quail]

Please an honest question looking for an honest answer from scoply….please tell me how under what circumstances can a 500 million power ship stand a chance against a 1.8 billion power ship. And a follow up…if my assumption the answer is it can’t….how then is it a PVP battle if the outcome is already predetermined? If this is how you are going to base the gameplay on then I’m sorry but I think you are going to lose in the long run. But let’s leave my opinion out of this. Please answer the above questions.

[tawdry heron]

Feedback from one of our biggest spenders in alliance about this month's arc events.

It feels like work email when you open the events tab and all the sub folders

[grizzled mulch]

The outcome is more or less determined, yes, but it’s PvP because it’s two players. One or both can choose not to engage, and often that choice “wins.” The 500M player can also seek out other 500M players… or 50M players, or…
Plenty of folks on my server manage to never PvP. They just keep an eye on the system(s) they’re in and leave if it looks dicey

[ashen wharf]

sure but lemme guess you play for 7+ hours a day on a mobile game watching

[shell river]

Just want to say this PVP event is garbage. I don’t pvp I enjoy just doing missions. I can’t and will NOT play during.

[grizzled saddle]

the pvp event is easy to get around if you make a deal with another player

[grizzled mulch]

No, you just watch while you’re playing. Events take 30-45 mins, maybe an hour, each day 🤷‍♂️

[undone pebble]

@grizzled mulch you do understand the irony in your answer as he try to explain that the pvp is too literal in a game company basing a lot more on chances.. eg critical hits, mitigate. He I think is implying he don't get a chance to seek another on his level before he go boom cause some idiot think the event mean he must be a ninkinpoop

[narrow quail]

Please explain the selection I can make in the the that says I choose not to engage. And your suggestions that I just go and pick on 50 million power ships suggest not PvP but just simple bullying smh. Anyway let me know how I can activate the I don’t wish to participate function.

[grizzled mulch]

You leave the system when they enter. I mean, is that not obvious? I do it all the time. Sure, I get ganked by cloaked ships from time to time, but I’d say 90% of lop-sided engagements like that are ones I choose not to engage in. Don’t tell me you just sit there and let them attack you? As for 50M, don’t punch down then. Go find folks at your Ops. 🤷‍♂️

This is all so shockingly obvious to me. Do ppl really decide to just stay in the system when the OP G6 who likes to fight rolls in?

[narrow quail]

Omg…..why didn’t i think of that. Great advice thanks you really must know lots about this game….really. Such wisdom

[grizzled mulch]

You’re the one who asked the question with a shockingly obvious answer 🤷‍♂️

[narrow quail]

And you’re the one whi comes in with the useless answers

[grizzled mulch]

PvP is terrible in this game. It’s never been balanced, and it’s worse now. I hate it. Still, I manage. Been managing for 3+ (4?! Ug) years now.

[grizzled mulch]

No, that was an extremely useful answer. Like I said, you’re the one who couldn’t see it coming (apparently much like the G6 warping into your system with you on their mind)

The other obvious answer is find another game. No one thinks this one is even remotely balanced (EDIT: or pro-player)

[undone pebble]

as I said before. many have given input here. if every other aspect was smooth eg no bugs, missing event rewards, glitches, lag oh god lag,,,, I suppose most players would have been calmer. Man, even the event tab thing looks untidy. 18hrs here.. 49days here... 2hrs here.... it's all over... quality went out the door in every element I stated above. poorly implemented event.

[grizzled mulch]

Agreed. That said, it’s Scopely. By this point, do we honestly expect better? (Realistically, I mean. I wish for better each day, but I’ve stopped expecting it. Unfortunate, but true)

[ashen wharf]

i wish for worse

[rough linden]

ISO damage slb is so easily cheesed with the nx-01. Flawed design.

[cunning radish]

Players are never calm

[ashen wharf]

eh not really they know payers want an advantage

as f2p dont have nx

[rough linden]

Can I be free to complain?

[ashen wharf]

of course they dont care though

everything is for the payers and high spenders to win been like this for half a decade

[finite cypress]

Until the day comes when only Paying players remain. However, since they will have no one to attack, they will end up leaving it too And this game will become one of many others that closed due to the greed of the creators, the life cycle of games with micropayments

[silver solstice]

The arc lasts the next 3 weeks as they always do. But there is going to be at least 1 more part probably 2. And the war room resets every 7 days so good likelihood the killings will continue.

And ... The beatings shall continue until morale improves 😃

[finite cypress]

If the war room resets every 7 days, that means it will work alongside all the events that happen each month Ruining all the events from today on, what a future

[silver solstice]

Well, Scopely did say they wanted to push the pvp aspect of the game, so it is what it is.

I do think with the amount of complaints though that eventually they may run it down to 1 week a month similar to incursions and the treasury. We shall see. I don't mind killing other players ships so it doesn't bother me at all.

[eager hedge]

I can't mine or do armadas. It's giving much higher lvl players an excuses to just run through and kill everything. I'm probably gonna call it quits here. I think the longest my surveyor has lasted is about 20 minutes. It isn't fun at this point.

[ashen wharf]

it is one week

[dusk dock]

Honest answer? They don't care! They want you to buy the packs.

[finite cypress]

The raid event is only one day, so it doesn't influence the arc events, however. This is a week, so no matter where you put it, it will always end up influencing the arc event, hindering players from completing it or No

[mental yoke]

I had planned on a couple of packs when I hit ops 46. With what they have been rolling out in 2024 those packs will never get bought now. My next action is likely account deletion if this direction continues. Been here since the beginning , but this is looking like the end for me.

[brisk sluice]

No, it’s every week

[ashen wharf]

the blog says its one week its just the war events for this arc are all month

[finite cypress]

Have you read the official announcement? The "Emblems of Honor" War Room can be acquired by opening your Warchest regularly - Be sure to open it every week it is active to level up your War Room. That means that at least once a month there will be a week of said event to upload the war room

[ashen wharf]

the war room is open

doesnt mean the events are every week

[civic frigate]

sooo.

them seals of ko'tal

where do one find the nodes..?

asking for a friend of course lol

[ashen wharf]

what

its not something you mine

[civic frigate]

the seals of ko'tal it says in the warchest it unlocks a node..?

says it unlocks exclusive research nodes

[ashen wharf]

oh

[civic frigate]

im assuming in the research trees but specifically which ones

[ashen wharf]

combat tree

[civic frigate]

o makes sense lol

[ashen wharf]

they need to stop naming things incorrectly and call them research pods

or something

[ionic grove]

The seals unlock reseaechs !!!! War Romm is the source. And events there are weekly, as said on the videos and launch notes !!!

[finite cypress]

He's in combat research. He's called a Tactical Warmonger. But you need at least 200. So be patient.🥹

[finite cypress]

In each event you can only get two stamps. And you need 200. So you have to do 100 events to unlock the initial research

[silver solstice]

The way it current is, there won't be a time in any given month when you aren't subject to being smoked by other players looking to score points to fill up the war room. So in summary, yes this will affect your events all the time. But that's the game.

Maybe your server will get tired of all the killing and decide to enact some measurements to allow peace for some players aka roe rules, I would be against such mandates.

Folks on my server so far have pretty much avoided hitting in systems where there aren't many alternatives such as the cardassian event yesterday. But how long that lasts and if it does remains to be seen. I know it would take a very long time grinding out card reds in the smaller systems even 45s.

[carmine olive]

Nothing "micro" about the payments in this game

[untold vortex]

I still wonder where they learned math, Fereginar, Quark teaching.

[leaden geyser]

This is fine

[mint idol]

Folks on my server just quitting

It’s like the rogue have been given permission to just do as they please in the name of the event and people are hoping out…even high paying ones….

[ornate geyser]

Supposedly they’re already backtracking and now it’s very other week.

They’ll be looking at their analytics…we’ll know how bad the numbers are by how much they decrease the frequency…

[leaden geyser]

I didn’t play all afternoon

[inland galleon]

Frequency needs to be zero. We have incursions that got dropped to 1 day a month that players mostly bubble up. We don't need any more than that

[zinc tundra]

I'm playing 10% of what I was before arc started. Spending more time on discord than game. Many who haven't quit yet are.

[leaden geyser]

Me too, complaining on discord about this bungled event is more fun than the event itself

Outside of the free-for-all the majority of players who attack me out gun me 100-to-1. I have zero wins in that regard.

[severe edge]

our long time friends are quitting because of this garbage

[zinc tundra]

I have 0 pvp wins, only 2 losses...and a bunch of PvE kills...yet my ranking bounces between 100 to 150. Today's new PvP gorn event I am in the 30s. Shows how many people are just turtled up

[severe edge]

unless you paid for freeman theres no point in pvping people even your own level

[iron lynx]

Embrace alt spamming to cheese war chests , slbs and albs

[muted island]

I've been playing since early 2020. I'm OPs 57 (just tiered up last weekend), and I'm the Admiral of my alliance. I'm what many would consider a dolphin in this game. I spend a ton of money, but not nearly as much as the real whales. When this arc dropped and I saw the mechanic and the events, I said "Peace. Out." I transferred the Admiralty to my Co-Admiral who helped me build our alliance into one of the most consistent alliances. I was the highest ranked 56 on our server, and the second ranked 57 at the time of arc drop. I said my good byes to the family I created in my alliance, and I haven't played since, nor will I. Scopely went too far for too long and I'm done. They haven't followed their promised roadmap of Quality over Quantity at all, and everything is designed to milk the players dry of all their money and nothing else. Bugs persist in perpetuity, players quit, grinds get added over and over again, and Scopely simply doesn't care.

[narrow walrus]

Who's bright idea to Create a slb with a mix of ship rarity? My 53 ship isn't getting close to what 56 ship owners are doing. Event number 15 to pass so far 3 days in

[molten sigil]

It’s not even that, if you didn’t buy an nx01 you’re not gonna compete

[narrow walrus]

AHH good shout. I forgot about that

[ashen wharf]

shouldnt chase slbs if you arent willing to dish out cash for pixels and hours of your day for pixels

main goal of 2024 is pure cash money

and seeing that theres like 2 or 3 new. level 70’s they got about $400,000 off each

[cunning radish]

They always had permission to do what they wanted

Players don’t need anyone else’s permission to do stuff in the game

[desert laurel]

The heroes that managed to bind whales to roe the first time might be tapped again for the even harder task of shaping future pvp runs like this into something your server would better enjoy. This looks like it might be a regular addition to the game, maybe not in this exact iteration each time, but definitely more pvp. Effort to improve the experience could be worth it.

[opal zephyr]

Anyone figured out how to unlock taraks isolytic damage?

[rocky wing]

It isn't yet in the store. It will be paid purchase

[opal zephyr]

Of course it is, scopley's play

[novel prism]

and don't get me started on this crap isolytic event, that rewards anyone who doesn't do the aquatics loop, and so have plenty of tokens to burn to rack up trillions of points, and anyone who does doesn't have the tokens sitting around, because they actually played the arc hoping it would get better, and therefore can't possibly compete, get screwed over... garbage event design, yet again.

[crude bolt]

Something is wrong when this type of mismatch is allowed to happen. Now all legitamised by the new pvp rubbish. Something needs to happen.
Add to that 4 hour repair time absolute crap.

[novel prism]

This is just the bands as they are currently designed.... gotta give the whales live targets and all, for all the money they pour into scopely coffers

[crude bolt]

Give them there own server then.

[novel prism]

they already have it... their own superdupersecret (discord) server, where they get their behinds kissed properly

[crude bolt]

ships should only be able to attack another ship +/- 5% maybe

[novel prism]

never going to happen. Scopely likes the whale money, and whales like live targets

[crude bolt]

well there may not be that many live targets in the future as people get jack of it

[neat ruin]

I heard this pvp event is permanent because there is a war room?

[novel prism]

been 5 years of history that says otherwise

[novel prism]

Yes, just gives whales more of an excuse; a death bell if you asked me.

[neat ruin]

Maybe it’s time for me to quit

[untold wyvern]

With all the recent server mergers and more server mergers coming up as they're being actively discussed now , i would say he has a point, server mergers constantly means game is dwindling and people are getting fed up.

[novel prism]

I agree. I just don't think Scopely cares, and I sure as heck don't think the whales do either.

If the whales cared, there would be a banding limit built into RoE to limit range of targets

[untold wyvern]

But if the whales want to act like cry babies to get everything how they want, then fine, they can play the game alone with their fragile ego's.

[novel prism]

if Scopely cared the bands wouldn't even be as they are

so... the game is on it's last legs, and it is greed and stupidity on the part of Whales and Scopely that did it

[untold wyvern]

Personally i'm just gonna camp at low OPS levels for as long as possible to have some fun out of it.

[stuck nimbus]

This event is exclusively designed for the whales to win, it’s totally bully tactics and total bs for the regular players, I understand Scopleys need to satisfy their big spenders, but all of us smaller and FTP players are very unhappy about this arc!

This arc will cause a lot of people to quit this game and post negative reviews on social media

[acoustic bear]

This arc has been fun so far to me lol

I'm a little sardine having fun with it.

[neat ruin]

Not will, it already did

The design of this event is just flaw

[acoustic bear]

Lol from the way people talk I guess my server is way less toxic than most haha!

[cunning radish]

as a f2p or lower spender, most events require saving

[stuck nimbus]

Mine has Rev Duece on the whales team

[acoustic bear]

So kill him lol

[stuck nimbus]

We do whenever possible

[acoustic bear]

I just wack people around my level. And try to have fun with it. I lose as much as I win. But that's just me I guess trying to not take it to seriously.

We been doing our server pvp with realta,s lol so free to fix

[neat ruin]

Then you are lucky, I got my ship hits by someone 20 levels higher than me while I’m doing hostile events

Oh typo it’s 30 levels

[acoustic bear]

There are gonna be growing pains with this new game mechanic but all the alliances need to get together just like they did at the beginning. Same as creating roe you can create some g2 pvp areas and get to it!

[neat ruin]

This event forced everyone to throw roe away. Usually my server is really good at roe

They had no choice if they want to score pts

[acoustic bear]

It didn't force anyone to throw roe away they chose to. There always a better way to do it.

[novel prism]

Scopely has hated RoE since the inception and we all know it.

This event was designed to encourage throwing away RoE.

Scopely was greedy and whales were dumb enough to fall for it.

[acoustic bear]

Lol I'm no roe advocate haha! I'm just saying we are getting it done with roe intact.

[neat ruin]

If you have everyone not exercising the event and go blow up everyone of course it would be fine, but if your server has lots of alliance and players all it takes is one or two alliance

Especially when it is a whale alliance

[acoustic bear]

My server is old I'm a teeny guy at 49 we have whale alliances etc.

[neat ruin]

49 is teeny……

I guess if you are all high level enough it won’t hurt you as much

[acoustic bear]

Yeah the bulk of my server is 40 plus.

[neat ruin]

Imagine someone envoy is stronger than your strongest ship

[dreamy patio]

dun dun, dun dun, dun dun

[acoustic bear]

Run away! Lol

I already send a guard ship to cover my hostile grinding ship. Been doing it for 2 years lol I may have a unique outlook on this new pvp stuff haha!

[cobalt totem]

If you’d been here since inception you’d remember we have had many periods of turbulence of “how to fit these events in our ROE?”

Like those numerous times in the past, it will fit, if need be ROE a bit adjusted / evolved, and that’s it.

[rocky elm]

Dear Scopely, why do you hate roe? Why do you insist on undoing months of work and discussions between hundreds of people all around the globe to get to a workable roe system?
Hundreds of your paying customers worked tirelessly to create rules ahi how ensured everyone would have a great time in your game, and would stay as your customer. We did the job you failed to do - create a framework which makes the game bearable.
And then you come out with an event specifically designed to kill off roe. Why? Isn’t this eternal grind, the over abundance of events, the uninspired complex loops and hoops we need to jump through to get a new ship enough? Do you really want us to leave? Because we will - and your servers will be nothing but ghost towns with a few whales and no other players for them to show off their expensive ships to.
P2w only works if they have f2p food - and right now this pvp event is nothing more then the straw which will break the camel’s back. Kind regards, Bad fart - admiral of 136, player since the beta phase months before release.

[lilac musk]

To be fair if you love ROE so much you aren’t a customer they really want anyways because you most probably don’t spend much. The whales don’t need ROE so it’s there for the smaller players mostly

[rocky elm]

1000 people spending 10 bucks a week is better then 10 people spending 1000 bucks a week, because the first engages a lot more spending potential and has a much higher net promoter score…
But I agree - I (and most other « we occasionally spend a few bucks » players) aren’t the customers Scopely wants - but we are those that scopely needs. Because without us, those 10 will leave.

[grim crater]

People talk about whales all the time, but it's the army constantly putting 10 dollars in the fruit machine. The real addict's who need their fix, who don't keep tabs on their spending. If stfc wasn't here, it's those people who'd be down the bookies. You want those people as it's constant money vs a few spending large sums. The fruit machine players are your bread and butter. Scopely doesn't add much to the game and the fruit machine players seem desperate to keep pounding the slots with money, unwilling to realise the game has no end and will require more as you level. I bet many who put in 10 dollars a week are now level 40 plus, sinking in 20, 30 or more dollars a week. Hooked.

[twin verge]

Adapt and overcome.

[inland hamlet]

Scopely never designed roe or designs any content based on player constructs.

But ofc we could reduce the pve content if you like.

Let's reduce the free stuff from pve to levels of free stuff from pvp.
Instead of increasing free stuff from pvp.
If that happened you'd only have 12 events this month over 20 days.
You'd be moaning it's boring

[limpid stone]

hi there could anybody tell me on which ops lavl i could open gallactic recruits im on ops 17 and i dont have them i have the token but no chance to open gallactic recruits

[rigid jolt]

I love this war chest addition. 4 hits in token space & I'm done lol. Finally an event for us rogues.🫠😍

[ancient light]

They make sure the comments are all turned off on advertisements specifically because the horrible reviews.

[glacial kernel]

I laughed when I read the review on the App Store

Had to back out and make sure I didn’t click the wrong game

[ancient light]

You clearly dont get it either - No free to play means nothing for P2W players to do.... end result, they will quit as well. However to dive deeper into your statement, we have all seen dozens of 55 and up players quit the game because they too are tired of all the garbage $copley comes out with.

[lilac musk]

You don’t get it. They don’t care. They haven’t for 5 years yet you hang on to the tiny bits of dopamine they drip feed you every month

You can keep posting all the business cases you want in hopes they will but that’s worked out so well so far 😂

[ancient light]

Everyone is tired of changing everything (playstyle and ROEs) because of another bad money grab by $copley. That is why everyone is quitting, that is why servers are being merged AGAIN, that is why dozens of p2w players are quitting as well.

[trail igloo]

Actually scopley players suggest and help guide new servers to setup Roe. Fact

Even help them get their new server discord linked to scopley/stfc

[raw laurel]

What “10 dollars”? nothing in the store is that cheap.

[lilac musk]

True. This game doesn’t do micro transactions it does macro transactions

[trail igloo]

And most likely those "players" you see leave and setup discord on new servers is most likely an employee moving on to spread the chaos to a new batch of victims c

[inland hamlet]

You could've just lost once

[grizzled mulch]

What are you talking about? I saw you mention losing once for the war chest in another comment. Not seeing what you’re seeing.

[inland hamlet]

Did you not click the I button in center to see scoring?

[grizzled mulch]

What event are you talking about out that is done with one PvP loss?

[grizzled mulch]

War Chest takes 50M for us to unlock. One loss is 10000

[rigid jolt]

Losing once only scores 10k points lol

[grizzled mulch]

Easiest way is really to just raid iso in territory 🤷‍♂️

[rigid jolt]

even easier to raid token space.

[grizzled mulch]

That is true. Our server puts token off-limits, so we just lean on PvP or OPC iso

[inland hamlet]

So how many losses for 50 man alliance, in a week

[grizzled mulch]

5,000

[rigid jolt]

Even enemy is off limits? Dang your server is too nice

[grizzled mulch]

No, when it’s war “There is no ROE… only Zu’ul.” 😄

[inland hamlet]

Put it this way average alliance finished it in less than 4 hrs with a realta v realta organised battle

[rigid jolt]

Cheating isn't the way mate.

[grizzled mulch]

Yeah, that’s a good approach. Raid iso in territory, raid bases, etc. Getting it through PvP wins/losses is probably the hardest way

[inland hamlet]

You just get the whales to police it

Bases don't count

Only opc iso counts

[grizzled mulch]

Eh, “cheating” seems a bit strong there. For an ALB/SLB, I’m more inclined to agree

[inland hamlet]

And opc is not against roe

Warships are not protected

[rigid jolt]

This is why the raid leaderboards don't reflect an honest effort anymore. Because guys organise and share

Scopley should get rid of it

[grizzled mulch]

Silly me. Thought raiding counted

[inland hamlet]

It's not cheating if game allows it right..
Just as game allows a 61 to kill a 16 in tc space.
It allows you to communicate and arrange fun and testing

[ancient light]

True but it is the only way for the little guy to compete, or even complete events in some cases.

[grizzled mulch]

True, but it feels like cheating “in spirit” at least. But yes, it’s using a game mechanic, so within the rules

[inland hamlet]

Who says you have to do as scopely suggests?

[rigid jolt]

I disagree. Plenty of real players who don't cheat are losing their ranks to cheaters

Yes the game allows it

[grizzled mulch]

That part is true. There need to be better systems for smaller players

[rigid jolt]

Doesn't make it right

[inland hamlet]

Umm they not players if they don't know how to play the game

Seriously you are one of those doing iso event hitting gorn right, not other ships?

[rigid jolt]

Honestly if you think cheat raiding is cool , then by all means do it.

[inland hamlet]

So not hitting xindi aquatics with Nx01, borg solomadas, or any other hostile that scores more

[inland hamlet]

Raiding doesn't score lol

[rigid jolt]

I know. I'm talking about the raid leaderboard

Off topic

[inland hamlet]

Kill explorer, battleship or interceptor or ship not actively mining

[inland hamlet]

Lol that's incursions lol