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[silver parcel]

show your log, and crew

[steep laurel]

Meant it for the shot that we shouldn't see.

[silver parcel]

and these ae not the same as hurak, silent or gorn

[lyric haven]

Best I could do, they're tough. Unbuffed for 69, then threw the hail mary for 70. Them crits are a double edged sword. Swapped iso cascade in for crit dmg for the buff run.

[vernal olive]

janeway, suder and seska.

[silver parcel]

your problem is suder

and janeway

[sturdy basalt]

then show us with normal ship like schimitar t11 on 70

[vernal olive]

tried about 30 different crews. including all the ones pictured from other players

best ship is my negvar t7

[half hornet]

that's 5.5m hostiles.. really heroic

[vernal olive]

most recent try. no damage at all

[sturdy basalt]

janeway good try

[silver parcel]

t11

[civic geyser]

lol so glad I didn’t think about ops up

[lapis crystal]

Mine is higher tier but while Chang doesn't work well on G6Es my crew still worked. I show higher level hostiles too to balance out the higher tier ship.

[ivory prism]

To me its looking like the higher G6's (66-69) have their hostile bands out of line, seems like below that its manageable and above is too. We all know how good Scopley math can be at times

As a side note, what ever they've done to the refinery where it resets to the start of the store when you claim, is really irritating!!! check your code and go back to what it was!

[flat knoll]

best i could get is 3 kills

[brave ivy]

@lapis crystal your crew worked well for me, thanks

[tame cypress]

@lapis crystal i even killed 2 in 1 hull! thanks for that

[lapis crystal]

These do very little "standard damage", so Doc isn't useful. Also they seem to have so high Shred that Annorax is limited usefulness.

[wintry jackal]

If the aim is to make people increasingly frustrated with the game and encourage them to give it up, then they are on the right track.

[brave ivy]

Now if only the kill count for the daily worked... Still at 4 kills after destroying 20 ships

[maiden forum]

Could be partial

[tame cypress]

decided to give it a go with t5 vengeance. with tkermi crew i can do like 15 hostiles in 1 go.. so much better than fkr ship

[amber shadow]

outpost speed up is supposed to be sec 31 fac store yes???

[civic geyser]

#🛠-known-issues message

[weary mango]

yk its bad when people punching 3 levels above them need to start hitting vgers same level as them

[topaz root]

When will the junk content that has no basis in star trek stop?

[weary mango]

when they start earning billions i guess

[topaz root]

You know what the Excelsior and vger have in common? Nothing

[civic geyser]

I don’t understand the need for the change it was hard enough for a lot of people before now it’s just plain stupid

[topaz root]

Ridiculous money grab and the core of people playing have had enough i think

But scopley will keep doing what they do .... drain the cows out of all milk

[wintry wave]

Neelix and Tal not working on the V’Ger Orion. Anyone else having same results?

[topaz root]

Honestly surprised they haven't killed the game already

[flat knoll]

can you share what lower deck u used?

[bright girder]

Scopley you are making your game too difficult to play for most casual players, it is forcing them to look else where.

[vernal olive]

i used to play this game for fun and to relax. now it's just got stupid

[civic geyser]

Thinking that’s what they want

[topaz root]

I'm downloading royal kingdom.... seems better

[blissful wigeon]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> i know this will likely get missed in all the talk of crews, but will something be done about screens jumping back to the beginning after claiming, like in the faction store? It's making claiming everything really slow as need to scroll back down after every claim.

[lapis crystal]

Sure, this same below deck.
#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[flat knoll]

aha thanks

[vernal olive]

i wonder how many of us are just 1 terrible arc away from deleting the game and taking our money somewhere else

[topaz root]

Probably 75%

And that's conservative

Bad content ... videos with people nobody wants to see.... give me a break

[sharp egret]

Is it just me or they effectively broke challenge loop?

[topaz root]

Mine works and the claims get easier as you lvl the build

Its one of the few things working

[sharp egret]

You cannot even do small daliy

[topaz root]

You don't have to complete all the days to get the same rewards is the point

Granted not a great point but its a point

[candid vessel]

This arc is just so much fun. 🤮

[spiral furnace]

i took Gorkon as Cpt, and his buddies. Was easy as with Janeway before

[blissful swallow]

Ops 60. I can kill 7 67s, this crew

[covert reef]

This is an utter joke! This was with double buff, Cerritos and Titan! Yet another massive Scopay fail!

[blissful swallow]

Why would you have e picard over edata?

[sick coyote]

y u use anno

[covert reef]

At this point, not sure it will make a lot of difference. Been trying loads of combos, nothing works. This is the best result so far.

[blissful swallow]

I am just wondering. Because he does the same thing just 4x better

[sharp egret]

It does not really metter fight last 20+ rounds its even out

[blissful swallow]

Annorax gave me the best results. I'll switch him for edata see if it's better

[candid vessel]

I've used that exact crew all officers maxed, 4x stronger ship and only did 10% damage to a 69.

[olive crown]

This cheese is the only thing working for me. I've literally died every 8 minutes for the last 3.5 hours trying every crew listed here and in rev's discord. Since it's a Leslie cheese, I die every time, but I'll take it at this point. Metreon Cascade & Chrono Deflector if it matters.

[prisma phoenix]

Oh yay another hostile which you can’t kill

[tardy bluff]

Even the cheese crew wont' work for me... I give up.

Died more times than I can count and not a single kill

[sharp egret]

last month it was fun to find crew and tune it for my account. This is just mental

[covert reef]

Like I said, same outcome

[heady oxide]

Q- How to get people to not bother with dailies anymore...

A- provide hostiles that are impossible to beat unless you have spent money on the vengeance AND lock officers to lv70...

[tardy bluff]

De-motivated is my feeling

[civic geyser]

Tried that crew on a 67

[bright mesa]

Fact or fiction: Scopelys safe word when aggressively pegging the players is Visa

[blissful swallow]

Edata got me 3 more than annorax did. Thanks for the idea

[blissful swallow]

Quasi below? Wok carol?

[pine lava]

tried around 15 different crews now, with different FTs and other stuff like buffs. No chance to do a single kill. So, no chance to finish the V'Ger dailys. Thank you for that "great" update and arc.

[sharp egret]

This is actually okay. I bossted the ship

[soft lance]

Same for me no Chance

[sharp egret]

Im killing them in 1-2 rounds like this

[hidden locust]

if luck, if no luck 0 boosts

[ivory prism]

resorted to working my way up from the lvl 51's to do the event, no chancce of doing the daily today

[topaz root]

Fiction... when you say visa they hit harder

[opal turret]

Only this works for me on 69 aswell. Shame how greedy Scopley is to make a hostile what we cant kill just to pay more to be able to finish the weekly challange track...

[topaz root]

They also release the reach around

[covert reef]

Given up now, no point wasting time and effort fighting Scopay’s clown maths

[topaz root]

Find the best crew you have ... send your eviserator or disco and just keep sending

It took me a while

Half hull at a time just to say i did it

[ivory prism]

at the rate its going i would need to hit the same hostile 10 times to kill it, I have a little thing called a job and other things to do....... i got to hit 67's

[topaz root]

Understood just saying what I did

And it sucked

[opal turret]

I had to hit a single hostile 8 times to kill it on 69....

[strange flame]

The amount of dmg done from a lvl 65 to lvl 66 ship is more that double. Made sure I could handle the 3 others before I went op66 and was not expecting this. Tried 6 different crews recommended in here this morning and mad sure I double checked the below deck is ”correct” as well. Can’t kill a single one at lvl with max maxed cube or T9 Minerva and then I am a 0layer that are focusing on research and have most of the research trees maxed…..

[ivory prism]

Not worth the time or effort, i'm not pandering to bad mechanics from money grabbers, stopped buying the battlepass a few arcs ago as i dont think they've released anything worth congratulating

[topaz root]

I'll just say again..... not defending scopley because I hate them.... you will still get as far in the challenge track without killing the new reds

Take a breath and do what your good at.. . F scopley

[silent igloo]

I am the bug against the window of Orions lvl 70..

[opal meadow]

Me too

Logged off not worth my time

[opal meadow]

The challenge tokens we're missing from these dailies tho

[topaz root]

Build the new building. It will work itself out based on payout improvements

Play your game.... not scopleys game

[opal turret]

Funny to see the whole server dies on thier own ops level hostile.... I can say it was a great new hostile thanks scopley

[topaz root]

Its a marathon not a sprint

[civic geyser]

It’s a sprint to the exit

[opal meadow]

We've been a part of this marathon for years just to get punished with every new loop for being where we are

[topaz root]

There never was an exit for some of us..... bonds with other players... money spent... no way out

[opal meadow]

New ships that come out as g3-g5 ship is of no use to a 70 other than these refines

[topaz root]

I quit more than once.... you need to mean it or it doesn't count

[white chasm]

when all your friends stop playing also, the exit is easy to see

[topaz root]

There's always new friends

The ones you don't expect

What do I know I quit multiple times

[white chasm]

theres new friends in the next game too

[opal turret]

I just needed 35 tries and 1h20 mins to finish the todays orion thing...

[native pasture]

What Orion thing ??

Any redeem codes anyone ??

[silver parcel]

#⭐-official-announcements message

[weary orchid]

New Orion hostiles…. Back to the old Leslie crew, and wasting time doing 25 trips for the damage challenge 🤦‍♂️

[opal turret]

Well, Suder one of the worst thing you can use against orions...

[mortal canyon]

Yes but for weaker ships that don't have the hull to sustain Leslie extends the battle to 100 rounds so you burn them to death

[weary mango]

whats the below?

[pliant vapor]

After some tries this crew seems to work best for me so far (ghrush for range)

[mortal canyon]

Any time you design a feature that the majority of the player base needs to use Leslie for then you have failed.

Both for the players and the spending goals of your superiors

[sterile parcel]

Any assistance greatly received I can kill 3/4 of one 🤦

[silver parcel]

drop hugh foir starters

you don't want crit

tendi and mariner are wasted

seska doesn't help after you crit

[sterile parcel]

Cheers I’ll try that one next.

[dusky holly]

I get it that my T13 Krencha cannot kill one hostile even with Leslie crew on. And gotten used to being blown up all the time after ascending to 71. But is this 'small goal' really intentional. It basically requires to complete the big goal and more

[civic geyser]

I had better luck with this than that other crew for some reason

[midnight sleet]

I been using Leslie on my t11 and can kill a damage one sometimes...I mean I got 2 in about 10 tries 😅

It seems it's all rng , you can't stop your ship critting

[dusky holly]

Yep, you cannot. It's just so frustrating. While the big goal can be a stretch for what I care, I think the small goal should be achievable without sending your ship to roll a dice a dozen times

[leaden meadow]

you don't? ship barely deals dmg without crits

[dusky holly]

The crits will eat your shield mitigation real fast

[gray lintel]

I lost shield mitigation after round 1 and that was after stripping all crit chance by removing FC.
And same result I crit.
So shields are useless dead in 7 rounds burning does nothing
Hostile mitigates 95% of your iso damage and has over 100,000 apex barrier at start.

[leaden meadow]

yeah but they didn't bother to put that into numbers so it well could be decrease 0.1% crit dmg, 0.1% shield mitigation and 0.1% apex barrier ;p
Why not be more transparent

[gray lintel]

So yeah 100 hits for your daily damage goal. And 100 hulls for 0 kills

[sterile parcel]

I’ll try this cos at the moment nothing is working

[opal turret]

I finised todays daily with 35 tries and 1h20mins

Only leslie cheese crew worked on 69s

[gray lintel]

Because by time you get back someone sat around waiting to 1 tap your hostiles

Can't even get Leslie crew to work

My crit chance is just too high

[opal turret]

same, I do crits in every round without hugh so kinda hard now

[gray lintel]

There's is 0 way to reduce your own crit chance to 0 and ships have base 20%

[fickle sonnet]

And i gotta unslot khan and kirk FC, they add 20% 🫠

[gray lintel]

Yes only minority affected players ....IE all those 68 to a t6 g6 epic

[weary mango]

it depends imo

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-ready-gif-5011220

[weary mango]

if your crit chance is too high id say just put Hugh onso Ucrit more

[gray lintel]

I unspotted all my FC and still my shields were by passed in 3 shots

[queen jolt]

whats up day 2

[weary mango]

for me I crit literally every gun but not every shot so I just threw Hugh on so every shot would crit

[weary mango]

living hell is happening

[delicate thunder]

New hostiles are a joke, doesn't matter what crew i use

[gray lintel]

Just usual scopely not listening to feedback ramping up hostiles at 68 so those at ops 66,67 face totally different experience that ln 68 to 70

[leaden meadow]

only 90% chance of critting here without any crit officers. I don't feel like swapping around FC skills twice a week to get that to 70%

[gray lintel]

But sure everyone g7vplus it's easy

[ashen briar]

By now I'm 100% sure that they simply enjoy to annoy the hell out of us 🤷🏼‍♂️

[gray lintel]

It does says increases hostiles ability to shred apex barrier and reduces your shield mitigation for 5 rounds every time you crit hit it

[leaden meadow]

Scopely made Vger dailies harder for absolutely no reason and no extra gain.
It's starting to feel like a social experiment again

[gray lintel]

Try not doing a crit hit for 1 round lol

[hexed river]

What no extra gain? ;d they want to frustrate you enough two times a week, so you FINALY decide to buy out this ship

[woeful compass]

try not having crit chance above 90% without officers lol

tried different crews and 1 is the max I can kill lol

[ashen briar]

Soon they'll start to sell a 'solution' against that, wanna bet?

[hexed river]

Solution is a new ship

they already selling the "solution"

[gray lintel]

And top it off they reduced easy 1 silents to 1 day week and doubled down on Orion's so great challenge rewards are up, just can't get dailies done 2 days a week.

[hot needle]

These hostels suck nothing works

[leaden meadow]

jokes on them, as soon as I get 1bp for free, buying the ship feels like a complete waste
And I don't think the ship even helps against this right? it only has a bonus vs Vger fighters iirc

[hexed river]

it is scopely pattern - create a problem, name it a "feature" and sell the solution

[white chasm]

solution is the new CT you can already see in the ct screen

[gray lintel]

Just can't get the CT without doing challenge dailies

[white chasm]

Make problems to sell solutions, its the business model

[fickle sonnet]

Does nothing against these unless you research the sweeps. Also buff is meh

[wanton dove]

The sweep doesn’t work too, Ill call the vger ships and nothing counts 👉🏻👌🏾💩

[leaden meadow]

do you need the ship see the CT somewhere? I don't see it

[tiny ivy]

Ah this feels like the NX grind all over again 😄

[leaden meadow]

well I see it in the CT menu but no pulls anywhere

[white chasm]

itll be like godsend, buy in store only

[gray lintel]

What's crazy is you have 100% shred. And still hostile mitigates 2.5b of a a remaining 3b after mitigations

So how much apex barrier does it get boosted at start of combat 200k?

[stone steeple]

whats up today those overpower vger hostiles making people go crazy

[gray lintel]

Hostile runs at max normal mitigation, max iso defence and tonnes of apex barrier...

Top it all off it hits like a truck

And ignores shields

[leaden meadow]

and all the rest
My s31 GG alone has 100% shred (haven't maxed her yet), there's research etc for more shred, don't know what number I'm actually on

[gray lintel]

And you can only repair 70% of hull damage

[fickle sonnet]

You researched sweeps and hit the same lv hostiles?

[kindred echo]

New Orion hostiles are just ridiculous <@&509690795536941056> another needless nail in this games coffin

[gray lintel]

Vger space is just a parking garage of ships waiting for people to get a hostiles hull to 10%

So now 2 days a week can't do challenge track daily,....but pay out been increased....

[soft lance]

The only way to get killed the 71 atm for me. 10 times for the killing daily

[tiny ivy]

This one works best for me, suder is a funny idea though considering their massive apex they get from him

[gray lintel]

T16 cube exactly. Or maxed relativity. Has just enough starting hull that % repaired is enough

[sterile parcel]

I’ve tried all the crews listed and just no dice for me. Another Scopely disappointing change.

[gray lintel]

But sure the 0.001% of the community they have their advantage back so happy as larry

[agile bolt]

Yeah ive tried every single crew posted here atleast twice and most I ever did was 25% damage

[tiny ivy]

Leslie crews too?

[agile bolt]

Yep

[opaque crescent]

stfc summed up in one image

[stone steeple]

you did more than me i was lucky to get 2% on 69s

[tiny ivy]

Got a ss of your full crew ?

[willow gazelle]

is anyone else not getting scoring for killing the lower OP vgers?

[tranquil glen]

Probably they have prime research

[agile bolt]

Yes ik suder is banned but this crew did the best for me

[tiny ivy]

Chang instead of Moreau or suder. (Not sure about a better option for Paris since I don’t know your research level)

[agile bolt]

Tried that and it did worse

[wraith plover]

i think we're at the end of the game. they've run out of ideas and don't know how to create new hostiles. so they clamp officers and ban others. this is hugging nerf tracks for the rest of the game.

[agile bolt]

Nearly the same tho

[wraith plover]

banning a newish officer off hostiles... bruh. get a grip scopely.

[tiny ivy]

That’s odd for sure, do you have close to 100% crit chance and the exborg hull repair favours max?

[fickle sonnet]

So basically even without all the crit chance from FCs the ship crits enough to get 0 shield mitigation.... might aswell just go full crit then.... what a ridiculous design

[agile bolt]

I have maxed exborg repair stuff yeah, and I got my crit chance as low as I can get it but im still hitting some crits

[tiny ivy]

With Chang you want max crits tho

[sterile parcel]

This is just a joke. I can’t not crit. Bunch of 🤡 wrote this

[fickle sonnet]

I just wanna give that dam hostile the same crit chance i got. That would solve all the problems

[agile bolt]

Okay lemme try maxing crits out again then

[main turtle]

This worked for me very slowly. With titan and Cerritos buff I could kill about 6

[signal meadow]

I kill 1 with Leslie crew but I die at the same.time..what the he'll is that..I get victory and die

[agile bolt]

Just tried this and it works best out of everything

[main turtle]

I think messing with the below deck stuff may give better results but haven't tried much others yet

[silent igloo]

From Veil chat hope it works for Orions

[tiny ivy]

Etroi does nothing, pic Hugh should help more

[main turtle]

Ooo or maybe the one who does shred below deck?

[white chasm]

ive blown up my cube so many times tonight my wife just laughed and didnt even login

[agile bolt]

Thats the one thing I swapped out too

[opal meadow]

Did better with suder than Moreau

[tiny ivy]

Probably depends on research, same here

[tiny ivy]

Might work, but I think hull repair is more essential here

[opal meadow]

Yeah ik I need a ton of research done. Planned on spending next 2 months while ops cooked on research. Now g7 looks even further away

[main turtle]

Wait shouldn't etroi work on all hostiles?

[opal meadow]

Yes

[tiny ivy]

Yes, but they reduce your crit damage a lot

[opal meadow]

One guy in my veil said e-pic worked well for him. Wonder if her bridge ability would be helpful

[main turtle]

Oooo

[tiny ivy]

Epic works because of the massive iso damage

[warm venture]

welll that's the best I could manage so far.....

[opal meadow]

Js that might be helpful

[tiny ivy]

This was the closest I could get non cheese

[tiny ivy]

Not if you’re running QSD

[hidden python]

I would love to know what crew Scopely "tested" for each Ops lvl without a high lvl new building in the first place

[opal meadow]

I am not

[hidden python]

Leslie crew worked for me at Ops 70 but 10 repairs and 32k sigma trit repairs isn't going to be sustainable

[agile bolt]

Scopely test? What planet are you on lmao

[opal meadow]

Agony booth on kren but tantalus still on cube. Already tried swapping a couple around it's too expensive to keep doing

[lapis marten]

These Orion things really do hit hard. It’s like fighting the ops 70s when I was still in G5 🤣

Had some success with these two that might be worth trying. Below decks same on both. Using the cube so I ran with the Enaran execution post for burning to trigger iso stuff and the slipstream for its shield abilities

I’ve seen people using Leslie full synergy too

[opal meadow]

Naga cut that down to a few hundred per repair

[tiny ivy]

Use naga

[opal meadow]

Still it's a major pita

[hidden python]

Ohh true yeah, should get that to work

[sterile parcel]

The silent ones were bad enough. I sense the hand of mister tiger in this 🤦

[stone steeple]

same lol

[tiny ivy]

Mildly annoying, a major pita would be an event where you have to kill 100

[opal meadow]

See i could run almost 50 silents per hull. Gorn hirt me the worst

[tiny ivy]

Silents were the easiest lol

[opal meadow]

On the 70's

[gray lintel]

You mean damage daily

[tiny ivy]

That was done in 3 for me

[opal meadow]

Different lower. Mid to high 60's in my alliance said silents were worst

[tiny ivy]

I mean like the aggro event

[opal meadow]

70's are complete opposite tho

[tiny ivy]

Maybe officer tiers then🤔

[gray lintel]

Silents we get 1vday a week now,vorions we get twice a week.
Netvloss challenge daily points 350,
Leeway per week 275

So yeah FTP down from milestone 5 to milestone 4

And means only 5 pulls of excelsior bp instead of 7

[warm venture]

you mean downto 3.....with only 5 out of 7 doable days, you get 1375 points and the 4th needs 1400

[gray lintel]

And kiss goodvlbyevto rest of refinery IE upgrading building

[opal meadow]

At least one had max tucker and either suder or seska. Kren at t8 I needed seska but at 10 I kept shield so switched to suder

[sterile parcel]

My already diminished enjoyment of the game is ebbing away even more. Can’t see me bothering anymore. It’s too hard and 🩲

[gray lintel]

7x 275, was
Down to 5x 275+ 2x100

[tiny ivy]

Phlox was pretty crucial to me, had some issues even at t4

[gray lintel]

Damage daily is possible, kill one is hardest iglf not impossible

[gray lintel]

Hostile has 6.7% crit chance

[tiny ivy]

Did the mess up the scoring for the dance daily again?

[warm venture]

well for me its 5x275 now

[tiny ivy]

We’re talking about silents

[pearl frost]

Any suggestions? This is getting old really quickly...

[warm venture]

if you can still do the "easy" task to get at least the 2x100, you are lucky....1 need 100 hulls for that.....

[tiny ivy]

First crew, Hugh instead of wok Carol below

[opal meadow]

Carol*

Was about to type the same lol

[tiny ivy]

Time to take my reliant to krenim solos 🫠

[dusky holly]

I got the best result w combining both Moreau and Suder w Leslie. Likely because I use Krencha which has garbage firing pattern.

[opal meadow]

That i haven't tried

Either way I'll get the kill and die

[agile bolt]

Ts is worse RNG than The XIndi punch up

[tiny ivy]

Suder instead of Moreau?

[wide cloak]

Been running this on my Velox and seem to be trading with the 66 Orions. They die but so does my Velox.

[dusky holly]

Yeah, my kills were not consistent w other crews due to rng. With the Leslie-Moreau-Suder the result seems consistent

[meager kestrel]

pike instead of moraue with voyager below decks

[opal meadow]

U might run into issues cause of hhp til u get ur cube tiered

I would imagine 67's be pretty hard with a t14 cube

[agile bolt]

Yes all crew are maxed

[hidden python]

Naga below deck was a great shout, just 440 sigma trit repair each hostile 👌

[rough flower]

This game is really broken. Aggressively pay advisory.. prices where you can buy many many games with it and more fun..
I think because it's star trek we play this game only..

[tiny ivy]

Ouch ok, is your rela high enough to tank more?

[agile bolt]

Then this bs, is 100% rng lol

[agile bolt]

Nah, cube is highest hhp I got

Amazing how they made this arc 10x worse than the last lol

[tiny ivy]

Might be a pure power issue then, but at least it works a bit?

[opal meadow]

Ft?

[agile bolt]

Chrono and Metreon, tried Tant too but didnt make any dif

[pearl frost]

Tried that, got this...

[hidden python]

In their pursuit on making more challenging hostiles it's just getting stupid now. These are clearly only really doable without cheese by having the new building max'd for your Ops. I guarantee that's how they were designed.

[agile bolt]

Sure but I can do everything else in the game and hit well above my pay grade..

[tiny ivy]

How many rounds?

[pearl frost]

15

[opal meadow]

Not repairing enough

[tiny ivy]

Did you forget neelix or something? That doesn’t look like 15 rounds of burning

[opal meadow]

Burn hull repair favors maxed?

[tiny ivy]

I mean it was pretty clear for a while they want to make it harder/want you to have ships at your level

[pearl frost]

Yeah, he's there and he fired

[agile bolt]

Yeah sure but hard, not impossible. I can literally do everything else in the game at my level or well above it with no issue. Just this hostile lol

[meager kestrel]

Well we now know for sure, Leslie is being nerfed in Pt3

[agile bolt]

One single hostile

[rough flower]

No they only want to pay much more money. they don't think about the players

[pearl frost]

I've maxed the hull repair favours. PIC Hugh is T4, Leslie is T3

[tiny ivy]

Do you have the exborg hull repair and premium MU hull repair max?

[tiny ivy]

Guess you hit the slow down wall lol

[opal meadow]

Godsend would be huge. I'm missing like 50 shards

[tiny ivy]

Yeah it’s been prettty helpful thus far

[stone steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-what-is-it-confused-well-miriam-gif-15626797

[agile bolt]

No, they made a bs hostile lmao. Hence why half the community is having issues. Even good sized whales

[tiny ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-will-now-commence-seven-of-nine-jeri-ryan-star-trek-voyager-gif-23357754

[weary mango]

suder doesn't work on these

[pearl frost]

Yes the exB hull repair, Premium MU hull repair is 2/5

[tiny ivy]

He does, just extends the fight

[agile bolt]

If people can do every other function in the game with zero issue at or above their level except for the one single new hostile then its the hostiles issue. Not the rest of the game

[tiny ivy]

Ah that might be an issue then

[opal meadow]

He works just adds barrier

[weary mango]

aha

but U die after iirc

[opal meadow]

Yep

Only way I can kill these atm

[pearl frost]

So basically, I'm screwed and I should just give up on these bloody things.

[tiny ivy]

You can’t expect them to make hostiles on the same level as 3 months ago. Yes, this one is overtuned but it gives you a glimpse of what power you need for what’s to come

[left mulch]

no need to nerf him

[prisma phoenix]

Leslie Moreau Chang worked for me

[agile bolt]

Im talking even all the other Vger bs, I can kill above my level on all the others

[tiny ivy]

Suder instead of seska (or Moreau)

[prisma phoenix]

Suder doesn’t work

[tiny ivy]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[opal meadow]

Suder hull repair works

[hexed river]

not a single crew mentioned here works for anyone till you dont have EVERYTHING else maxed at ops 67 hitting 67++ hostiles

[steady berry]

What?

[left mulch]

it looks like a victory, but my ship is dead

[opal meadow]

Still counted as a win

[tiny ivy]

I can believe that, but it doesn’t change what power they’ll expect in the future. I remember when hurak came out how incredibly overpowered they were. The hostiles we have now are even stronger

[opal meadow]

Cause u lost all the hull Leslie repaired when the fight ended

[tiny ivy]

Just wanted to type that 😄

[left mulch]

Yeah but I meant: that is not sustainable

[pearl frost]

Challenging is one thing, smashing your head against a brick wall going nowhere is something else entirely. I'm not enjoying these hostiles

[gray lintel]

Worked for me ty

[mystic gust]

Did the hostiles killed with Leslie count for your daily?

[opal meadow]

Yes

2/10 now. Kinda lost interest in doing more

[tiny ivy]

With naga it kind of is, just not grindable

[left mulch]

I am so happy that I have a new building that will help me when it is level 60

[opal meadow]

2 yrs down the road

[lapis scarab]

A building where you need to do the dailies to get the building parts... 😄

[opal meadow]

Or a few grand 2day

[midnight sleet]

not sure the new building will do an ounce against these hostiles, at least not at 71

[prisma phoenix]

Yes they did

[opal meadow]

Damage will help end the fight quicker

[mystic gust]

Had to reboot the app to get the dailies counting 🙈

[left mulch]

well it should

[weary narwhal]

Why after I get to level 2 rep in Rogue faction can't get Stella bps? Have only 70/100 now

[woeful compass]

very very very small number

[hushed kite]

it doesn't, that's pebbles for high ops player with enough research, laughable even

[opal meadow]

Isolytic will help more than the actual damage

Pvp sorry

[opal turret]

If we start spamming #deleteorionhostilesFFS that would help? What everyone think? 😂

[meager kestrel]

ditch seska for moreau or pike

[midnight sleet]

Seriously with how little damage we do and can take from these guys a few 100 extra iso def or dmg wont even be noticable

[opal meadow]

He did already

[tired venture]

Hey fix the lag it is really bad again

[left mulch]

@woeful compass @hushed kite @midnight sleet I meant: yes it helps. I did not specify the amount, I merely wanted to point out that the building affects it - pointing to my first comment "I am so happy that I have a new building that will help me when it is level 60"

[pearl frost]

This was max fortified and cerritos boost. I'm giving up.

[trim wasp]

Without any buffs

[gray lintel]

Swap Chang for suder and you are golden

[pearl frost]

I've already tried that

[gray lintel]

No buffs necesary

[leaden meadow]

can do about 9-10 of the 67s with a similar cube with Chang S31 GG and Ent-E Data here, unbuffed
Have you tried that?

[left mulch]

i am not so sure about that

[opal turret]

you guys dosent read right?

[dusky holly]

That does not matter w Leslie crew. Its based on burning

[gray lintel]

What that's a debuff list

That's not a banned list

[opal turret]

With leslie + chang I finished daily. With sudder I died 10 in a row

[gray lintel]

They all still work

[opal turret]

without a scrach on the enemy

[trim wasp]

I’m doing with my kos’kari. Just try some others ships

Max fort

[dusky holly]

I completed the big daily w Leslie crew. The 'small daily' is a joke.

[opal turret]

with chang I completed both in 10 hostiles

[gray lintel]

Small daily is just load up with iso damage and iso cascade and just die a lot

[left mulch]

I am at the point where STFC can go and .......... itself with this superb gamedesign

[trim wasp]

Will try it👍

[dusky holly]

In 71 it seems that there is a small balance issue w this.

[gray lintel]

"We built a hard hostile"...Leslie....gate

[dusky holly]

As I read this the max you can do w one hostile is 8 pts

[half hornet]

hello, when is new arc coming ?

[heady oxide]

@dusky holly ive sent you a dm

Why ya'll fixed on leslie?

these hostiles need to be destroyed as quickly as possible.

[muted tartan]

These new hostiles are ludicrous. 2-3 hits to kill 1 hostile (71s) which gives 2-4 points per hit for damage task using epic 70 (T9). Scopely you need to review these hostiles unless your aim is to increase the number to players quitting the game/boycotting this loop. I get it’s a new loop & they are meant to be a challenge but making them near impossible is stupid. <@&509690795536941056>

[weary mango]

guess what 943% at lvl 60 won't be doing much for us anyways. it gets so diluted it's probably a 10-15% dmg boost😂

[gloomy parcel]

yeah ok i give up i tried everything

i cannot kill these hostiles, the other ones were perfectly fine but this?

this is ruining the game for me

[weary mango]

U can scroll up and see what crew other 71s are using. there's quite a few already

[civic geyser]

lol wonder how people this arc made quit

[main dove]

I have to say <@&509690795536941056> "Here's a new hostile hunting crew, you should all get it it's great" two arcs later "can't use the new officers we sold you" is in interesting strategy... #FreeSuder

[fickle sonnet]

You can still use him. And with leslie it doesnt matter anyway. Some even needed to use suder to beat the hostile

[vestal lava]

If you do any crits to these things at all, they start doing heinous damage

at OP71, I don't have an answer, need way bigger ship

[serene wraith]

For me, this allows a ‘win’ (well a Leslie win), but it counts. Also hit in a higher level than your ops - this means you don’t need to hit 10 hostiles for the daily (bonus for higher levels)

[vestal lava]

that's a 6 spot below deck, I got 4

[warm venture]

<@&509690795536941056> ok....something seems really broken here, because I only got 7/100 Points for this for the "easy" daily goal......

[heady oxide]

@vestal lava i've sent you a crew suggestion via dm

[heady oxide]

suder has been nerf'd

[latent saffron]

worked at 71, thanks !

[heady oxide]

sent thru a dm

[gray lintel]

Kill is a kill

[heady oxide]

many kills is better

[opal meadow]

Doesn't work for everyone tho

[heady oxide]

my cube is only 30bil

[minor aspen]

You're tiresome, Scopely... you call hostiles "Challenges" when they're simply unplayable... I'm going back to Diablo IV... a game with playable challenges

[opal meadow]

Most of us have been thru 20 different crews and this is the one that worked for us

[gray lintel]

Look at it's hull damage, divide by 1pt= for your ops and should equal 7

[heady oxide]

i don't have a vengance, and the firing pattern on the faction ships aren't doing it below t15

[opal meadow]

Ur research is also far ahead of mine

[warm venture]

he was not nerfed, he works normally, otherwise I would not have survived this fight.
Having him onboard just adds Apex barrier to the hostile...still I beat it, and yet it only gave 7 points for the supposidly "easy" challange

[opal meadow]

I got 9 per on the 70's

[warm venture]

so it is intended that one needs to kill 15 of these on your own ops level to complete the "easy" challange? while the "hard" one requires only 10 kills?

[gray lintel]

Well technically burning damage doesn't score

[main dove]

Is that only certain levels of them, it's not on the hostile description on a 68? 🤔

[gray lintel]

So it ends up way more

[opal meadow]

Each crit adds to their shield bypass

[warm venture]

who says that? The task is to deal damage, which is what I did, didn't I?

It says no where that only energy or kinetic or iso dmg scores....it says damage

[gray lintel]

Each crit you hit with it removed 10% off your shield mitigation per shot

[gray lintel]

So 3ccrits first weapon
Next time hostile fires you are at 50% shield mitigation

By end of r1 they bypass your shields

[half hornet]

so how you lower your crit chance ?

[opal meadow]

Just no crit officer

[gray lintel]

Mantis sting

[opal meadow]

Ur stuck with ur research where it is

[gray lintel]

But yeah I'm stuck at 70% +fc

Don't think we have any ship below 20%? That could survive

[main dove]

God I wish thier descriptions were more clear, talk about complicated confusing language 😂

[main dove]

They basically wanted to give these critical floor but realised we have all got the research to bypass that...

[gray lintel]

For some lower lvls they may be better off using their nx01 with Leslie crew

[opal meadow]

Not known for their math skills or communication skills 🤷‍♂️

[gray lintel]

Last time shield bypass, xindi....solution leslie

[sterile parcel]

Got 7 with this crew, max fort and Cerritos

[gray lintel]

Glad works for you

[half hornet]

since they manipulate the hostile with specific officers present, they should add officer that disables crit when present in combat vs that hostile

[fading portal]

what ship you use?

and FT/CT

[sterile parcel]

T11 ent d with metrion and chrono deflector

[opal meadow]

Agony booth and godsend would be optimal combo most likely

[obtuse sonnet]

T9 Minerva what crew should I use

[opal meadow]

Metreon adds crit chance which u don't want

[obtuse sonnet]

Or t14 cube

[opal meadow]

Apex barrier on both plus shred from godsend

[pale echo]

Commodore in my alliance dropped this for recommendations on V’Ger Orion crewing …

[granite snow]

None of them work at 66

[opal meadow]

Seska is pretty pointless

[pale echo]

Thank you for insight …

[gray lintel]

Really you going to crit at least once every round so may as well get it over with

[sterile parcel]

I’ll try removing it

[gray lintel]

You either kill it or you cant

[opal meadow]

If it's ur best hostile ft keep it

[granite snow]

Wish soneone had told me that before I wasted an hour this morning 😅 so hopefully ive saved someone some time

[gray lintel]

Slipstream works best

[opal meadow]

I still don't have that

Close but not yet

[fading portal]

those migth work for some .. but so far they are not working atm all for a large amount of ppl

[gray lintel]

One thing getting it then you have to lvl and tier up

[opal meadow]

Won't be an issue

[pale echo]

Sounds like not good for 66+ …

[wispy pebble]

Thats with max fort 🤦‍♂️

[opal meadow]

270k tier catalysts over 7 mil promatter

Only way I have killed them

[analog breach]

Suder makes them more powerful

[sterile parcel]

Removed metreon and added animus

[opal meadow]

Adds barrier yes but increases my hull repair

[umbral willow]

Well that is helpful...

[timber sail]

20 trips to the level 71 system for me... 🥲

[opal meadow]

Allows me to live long enough to do the damage needed to win

[sterile parcel]

Worse 🤦 this is an absolute joke and a waste of time and rss.

[opal meadow]

Tarkas might be good for all the extra iso

[granite snow]

Super expensive dailies now...glad these are only twice a week

Kill die return

[opal meadow]

Then metreon added the damage needed for you

[opal meadow]

Naga is huge. Saved me 30k+ sigma trit

[hexed river]

well.. the everything below 67 is pretty easy to do.. but starting from 67 its undoable if you are not maxed with everything

[granite snow]

Naga? 😅 im a wow girl so ive gone to fish pepple

[granite snow]

Im 66 😅 its doable but expensive

[hexed river]

Like i said, 67 is the starting point when things starting get messy

[granite snow]

Ohhhhhhh green lady thanks 🫣

[timber sail]

yeah Naga is the new MVP 😂

[granite snow]

https://tenor.com/view/kilz-naga-doto-doto1gif-war-gif-8192073

[timber sail]

and time of course...

[granite snow]

My nagas 🤣

[vestal lava]

at 71 these are just awful

the real effect is that this new adjustment of the loop is going to make the ftp to excelsior over 2 years long

[opal meadow]

Glad I didn't listen to all the people telling me to rush ops

I'm good at 70 for a while. At this rate this year will be painful without high tier ships

Or a vengeance

And my research finished

[wanton crow]

Is it intended that the new hostile ignore your shield?

[opal meadow]

Yes

[fading portal]

ok with every combo i have seen on here and tried them all and no win .. is the building the key factor here ... does it have to be at LVL 50 to beat these at all?

[wanton crow]

In german it says „decrease your damagemitigation“

[opal meadow]

Ah ok it's basically shield bypass like xindi have

Just multiplies with each crit u land

[vestal lava]

yeah I was taking 12 billion hull damage a round

[opal meadow]

Need to kill them fast. I don't have enough damage yet

[wanton crow]

Good to know, it also doesn’t say that in German 🙄

[opal meadow]

Lol

[forest basin]

It seems like there is someone in their team who is reprogramming correct program lines when it comes to maintenance and then we get bugs which aren't really bugs... I'm not sure but all this makes me think like that 🤔 I'm sorry but maybe it really is like that and that I'm posting my supposition here might just be helpful...

[wanton crow]

I just tried with the cube and no Hugh below, still managed to do 10 criticals in the first round, research is backstabbing

[opal meadow]

Same problem most are having. Especially with the premium dust research

Wok scotty will help depending on tier

[leaden meadow]

Best result for me atm, 14x67s at ops67

[hexed river]

Yeah, maxed cube ... im pretty sure it shouldnt be like that

[ashen kestrel]

promo code anyone have please?

[opal meadow]

What ops

[ashen kestrel]

39

[opal turret]

#⭐-official-announcements message

[opal meadow]

Nowhere close for me at 70

[ashen kestrel]

ty.. trolls will be trolls lol

[leaden meadow]

It's probably situationally
I tried a 69 and it whips me real good, think those are just insane

[fluid axle]

VGER2 promo code for above people

[muted sundial]

leslie - moreau - pike allows me to kill 1 x lvl 71 at a time with a T11 Ent-E - however only get 4-5 points a kill for the other daily task

[loud chasm]

yeah same, absolute slog fest, cant hate this company enought tbh

[vestal lava]

they playtest these features using max research, max artifact, max slipstrem

[opal meadow]

That worked on velox on the 67's

Done better with pve ft and ct ofc

Just had thaloron on it

[leaden meadow]

I'm pretty much maxed for current ops67 aside from premium mirror dust, the newer specialty ship research and paid only stuff, not sure I should be going ops now...

[opal meadow]

Yeah this has put a major delay on 71 for me

[leaden meadow]

GG is t4 and pic hugh too, all my other crews are maxed that I used

[opal meadow]

Gg still 3 for me. Almost 4

Pic hugh 4 as well

[loud chasm]

that might work below 70, but no with 71s

[ashen briar]

MACHINATIONS

[opal meadow]

500 more shards for t5 hugh

Like 30 or so for 4 on gg

[leaden meadow]

G7 is pretty badly designed, I won't be going there for as long as I can put it off

[opal meadow]

Glad I haven't yet

[glacial marten]

We

[opal meadow]

Need all research plus some surge done

[loud chasm]

it was honestly fine, before these orion bs hostiles came out. this is just completely overtuned BS

[opal meadow]

Couple hundred million sigma par to get to r&d at 71 for surge research tho

[granite snow]

Do you jump to fish people when people say naga? 😅

[opal meadow]

Why fish people and naga?

[hoary folio]

https://tenor.com/view/selkirk-channelcat-manitoba-you-know-it-dance-gif-24764520

[leaden meadow]

Well that's another crew preset slot taken up for 1/3 of just 1 loop. They can't keep doing this, I'm running out of slots

[granite snow]

These are a big feature in world of warcraft.
Nagas 😅

[hoary folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-toothless-lick-lips-how-to-train-your-dragon-cute-gif-17325663995735481496

[opal meadow]

Be why I didn't get it. Never played

[granite snow]

Yeah someone said naga earlier and I got confuddled 🫣

[opal meadow]

I was kinda lost the 1st time u said it but I'm used to it

Me

[leaden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-hello-there-hello-hi-toothless-gif-11969589576072755315

[strange flame]

Well Lesly as captain and I kill the Orions. BUT the balltelog shows that I killed it with barely no dmg on my cube. I get around 20% charge on the beam as well and then, boom dead and I am home in my base with a killed ship.

Get 1p for the kill and around 8-10p for the dmg

[slim sky]

It is because all the hull added during battle is taken away after it is over and you die.

[opal meadow]

What i got on 70's. 9 pts of damage for 1 kill

[leaden meadow]

Say goodbye to your sigma trit twice a week, even with Naga

[strange flame]

Thx, then I know

[opal meadow]

Naw probably skip at least one

If not both of these.

[slim sky]

Relativity cheaper on sigma and gets pretty big close to max.

[opal meadow]

Testing is one thing but this is just ridiculous for a daily

I'd say where they can put these but I'd get in trouble and put in timeout

[jagged kindle]

Can only kill one (due to Leslie), but with Delvios the repair is cheap.

[vestal lava]

what gets me is that this reduces the challenge track to 5 days a week for me, and the point I DO get I have to split between building parts and excelsior bp

[rough delta]

What's your BD effects?

[gray mesa]

I cannot get anywhere with the Orion hostiles using my cube and all the crews listed cube is 8b I’m ops 67 so hitting lvl67

[opal meadow]

I have the excelsior so don't have to worry about that part

But it's less i can spend on other things I do need

[tall igloo]

Fск scobi

[kindred echo]

And again complete silence from CM’s

[opal meadow]

They never around on arcfall

[pearl frost]

I've never been directly responded to by CMs, I don't expect this to change either

[opal meadow]

Be Thursday at earliest b4 they pop their heads in

[civic geyser]

Unless something major breaks

[trail pivot]

Unerwünschte Kommentare werden dann auch noch geblockt von dieser Firma! Einfach nur lol

[kindred echo]

Like the store 😆

[potent yew]

Man möge doch denen die die Einstellungen bei den V‘ger managen, doch bitte die Schleckereien für Ü18, respektive Ü21 bitte wegnehmen.

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-summoner-soul-hackers-soul-hackers2-ringo-onions-gif-24971871

[fading belfry]

thank you scopely for the mess you made of the faction store when collecting chests. you managed to make an already painful task even more painful. bravo. you really need to hire some decent programmers. seriously. seriously...

[night grove]

https://klipy.com/gifs/well-you-can-cram-it-with-walnuts-ugly-insult

scopely take your new hostile daily and ......

[void panther]

Anyone else alliance emerald chain get reset to lvl 1?

[left crypt]

yea, as ops 69 it completely impossible to kill a single orion - specially as a f2p

and doesn't help that Lorca's fist doesn't work either

[stone steeple]

you can get one but itll blow you up as well

[winged vector]

Jesus i wrote a lot what i think about those current ARC Events or those screwed up Vgor hostiles but in the end i believe it wouldn't had passed the filters so i hope that @queen jolt just tells the team that they "again" screwed up and they roll this stuff back and we get a compensation for todays Events and get all well along.

[loud chasm]

whos gonna bet they put lesley on the ban list next btw? 😄 cant have all these f2p plebs completing dailies after all

[neon kraken]

Gaila all over again

[spiral saddle]

@queen jolt Any chance we can get a slider for those?

[left crypt]

they should make s31gg super easy to get

if they are going to do this crap

[covert reef]

<@&509690795536941056> how can Scopay continue to fail so badly at EVERY arc launch. There is clearly no QA at any level. If there were, and I work in QA, these elemental mistakes would have been identified. When are we going to get any meaningful explanations, as so far the silence we have been faced with has been deafening!

[sullen solstice]

Nope. Even the Leslie crew won’t work.

[loud chasm]

that would presume its a mistake, and not just a deliberate middlefinger to the playerbase, as per usual

[left crypt]

yep same - just tried

[covert reef]

Fair point, not sure why I was surprised by this level of incompetence really, should have expected it.🤦🏻‍♂️

[weary mango]

what happened to the dev QNA

[left crypt]

yea, it is not like ss31gg is available to get and same with quasi

they assumed everyone maxed those 2

[weary mango]

I know a lot of times it's just random poo emotes but I kinda enjoyed the thought process behind what they do. there's some rlly good questions as well

and it's always good for Devs to directly hear from the community not just thru the CMS

like the only time they ever mentioned that the reliant was built to be a ship to get opc hunted was during dev QnA

[slow yacht]

It would be interesting to see Scopely post up what THEY think is the right crew/ship/tech etc combo…..and whether it’s a realistically available option for most players. Nothing I have tried works in any way whatsoever. Of course, those with a T11-ish Epic G6 ship seem fine, shame mine is T7. Maybe I should just spend more I guess.

[civic geyser]

Think they’d be scared to come on here

[left crypt]

the right crew would contain a maxed ss31gg

[loud chasm]

heres the thought process, how can we extract the most amount of money out of the players - there. no qna needed

[left crypt]

and a near max quasi - that they forgot to keep making available

and you need to do all your shred research

[weary mango]

ever since they. posted the PvP crew for veng I can't say I trust their crewing 🤣

[void panther]

Has anyone else alliance emerald chain reset to lvl 1?

[left crypt]

yep

emerald has been reset

[loud chasm]

ah yes, the infamous shred research that doesnt exist

[tough frigate]

@theaithlord It's clear that by adding paid events, those of us who didn't spend money were able to keep playing. Now they're even making daily events pay-to-win. It's clear this game is getting worse.

This game is destined to be pay-to-play. And most of us are already redundant. Every month there's new stuff, and in six months what you get will just create more work and won't even help with events.

What good is upgrading a ship from 6 months ago if there are no more events for that ship?

since the few benefits that their research provided are no longer useful for what needs to be done at the event

[left crypt]

and don't forget your maxed godsend

[winged vector]

It's a visual bug that has been around since years. Ignore it, it should be gone by tomorrow when the Dailies Reset (or sooner).

[twilit lintel]

this a new vger hostile?

[opal turret]

@queen jolt Mate, as you see everyone complaining about the new orion hostiles. Can you please report to the devs that they should tune them down a bit? Please

[winged vector]

Yes, it's called "Show me the money" Vgor.

[twilit lintel]

ugh

[leaden meadow]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[civic geyser]

Yep welcome to world of pain

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/nagato-gif-8067047135099207940

[leaden meadow]

I must've missed that 😮

[twilit lintel]

anyone come up with a crew yet?

[void panther]

Ty, was trying to see if it was a common issue that needed to be reported

[twilit lintel]

are or these based off that telescope

[left crypt]

if you don't have a t4 / t5 S31gg - just forget it

[civic geyser]

Could try some of those

[hearty mauve]

@queen jolt why only events up to Feb 8 for mid ops? where is the rest of the month?

[twilit lintel]

ty buddy

[civic geyser]

Don’t thank me yet 🤣 still might not be enough

[left crypt]

you should add the godsend to your chart

[tiny ivy]

those crews don't seem to be the best, haven't seen any good crew with seska

[inner aurora]

I would pull Seska for Harrison

Everyone forgets that guy

[indigo marlin]

<@&509690795536941056> I’m fairly sure the scoring for the new ‘easy’ daily is coded wrong, I have to throw 21B to get 1 point and I through 1.3T damage at it and got 1 point, could you check please

[twilit lintel]

who is that again lol

[civic geyser]

But guess I’m overpowering it

[tiny ivy]

you could do that with badgey lol

point is, by r2 seska is useless

[clever coral]

How do i kill those now?

[civic geyser]

Lucky it only went to round 4 then 😜

[topaz mesa]

they dont listen to the players.......

[tiny ivy]

leslie crews seem to be the best if you can't nuke em

[vestal lava]

@clever coral you aren't gonna kill that with that ship

you actually did better than most

[twilit lintel]

that moment u gotta double hit the new hostiles lol

[tiny ivy]

#🤝-help-each-other message something similar to this

[loud chasm]

thats a nice chart, does pike even works with gg and seska tho? his cap ability used to be very spcific to abilities that state at start of combat etc

[tiny ivy]

probably not chang on krench tho

[civic geyser]

Ben will be on soon

[pale echo]

FYI … I shared earlier and was told that crew suggestions don’t work 66+

[clever coral]

Crazy ... so scopely want us to buy mo4e packs or just stop playing as there is no point?

[civic geyser]

Wasn’t my chart was just sharing to try help

[civic geyser]

I tried a 67 and yes I’d agree not much help

[vestal lava]

I tried every crew on that at 71. a T9 Krencha just is not going to do it

guy in my alliance did it with a T4 vengeance

[tiny ivy]

a t16 cube can

[queen jolt]

hey peeps! I need your feedback about the new hostile. Please take a quick moment to fill out this short survey: https://forms.gle/qFmvwiozXvdaireL6

tanks

[vestal lava]

I tried a T16 cube, no go

[tiny ivy]

leslie suder chang with pic hugh neelix below?

[pale echo]

Couple crews from upper 60 folks in my alliance

[pale echo]

At 52 the Chang/S31 Georgiou/Sesksa cleaned the dailies in 10 shots

[civic geyser]

Found the Chang crew worse for me

[tiny ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-dogs-dog-tank-cute-funny-gif-9076583673138038533

[tiny ivy]

try hitting 67s with both

[civic geyser]

Tried a 67 didn’t end well

[inner aurora]

This was my best result on a quick test, I was using a slightly different crew that only would get 60% at a time earlier

[vestal lava]

@queen jolt thank you for coming into the fire pit. Survey completed

[leaden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tank-ww2-national-geographic-documentary-gif-78019388260210809

[hollow narwhal]

They literally just broke the loop for the people who don't what to buy their one trick pony ship.

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/15-gif-22980677

[vestal lava]

It's really, really bad

[timber sail]

Feedback form!! 😂

[inner aurora]

I know you can use Leslie, would rather not because of the other daily

[inner bloom]

So they can make it even harder next round

[loud chasm]

the cynic in me thinks, completing the survey to say what crew was used to complete it, will just lead to the crew being banned next....

[hidden python]

Clearly not tested in house to see if these were possible for the common player

[timber sail]

yeah I'm gonna go for "love the new hostiles, but they are a bit too easy..."

[split quarry]

Agreed

[tiny ivy]

i completed mine pretty easily, but i did a few test runs trying to brute force with iso damage first

[vestal lava]

as a new OP71, these were completely out of reach

[twilit lintel]

sadly that crew dont work for g5 happy

[tiny ivy]

i have seen a 71 do it with t16 cube, but yeah they're a tiny bit overtuned

[vestal lava]

they must have had maxed research my friend

[hollow narwhal]

Tiny bit my @#$

[tiny ivy]

gimme a sec to try, i'm a somewhat fresh 70

[ashen briar]

Sort of a survey about the new hostile…I mean, SERIOUSLY? Don't you read the room? Since hours players are giving their feedback here 🙄🫣

[vestal lava]

my T16 cube with agony booth and godsend was unable with any crew I have found, tested 8 combinations

[warm venture]

BTW: It had nothing to do with Burning..... the HHP of those hostiles is so small that defeating one gives you only 7 points for the daily
23B HHP / 3B = 7 Points for the kill

[tough frigate]

At what level? Because at level 70 or higher, no crew works. They all die, and you only get 1 point on the 100-point challenge.

[queen jolt]

initial feedback was already shared with the team. I just need some numbers/details for my report

[pale echo]

I’m at 52 … so lower from what I gather than most here

[hard bluff]

why just tell us the crew you tested it with . With an account that isn't worth 250k with everything possible maxed. you've given crew suggestions before.

[vestal lava]

@queen joltI volunteer for playtest

[meager kestrel]

i would fill out the survey, if you hadnt put google itself into slow mode with this discraceful change

[vestal lava]

any crew the Devs want to try

[cyan nimbus]

Thumbs down went from 30 to 2 just now. That's a first. New Orion ships blow for those in the 63-71 range.

[kindred echo]

How tone deaf are the CM’s a feedback form ! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[ashen briar]

Just tell them to hop on/in here and read it for themselves- e v e r y s i n g l e o n e.

[left crypt]

as an ops 69 it is completely impossible I just don't have enough sherd to do enough

[vestal lava]

I'd love to do a Discord screenshare with the dev team

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-cute-reading-read-gif-22889530

[loud chasm]

i can already see the justification for g7, its the premium area, so you are expected to shell out cash for primes, officers and maxed ships to complete dalies, just watch. i can already hear the bootlocking CCs 😄

[rough delta]

What's your BD?

[hidden python]

How about the Devs play the game themselves without all the primes and FCs with a normal tier ship at a given Ops lvl and see how they would approach them? Just a thought.

[timber sail]

In general I really like the V'ger idea - challenging hostiles are a good idea, but they have just made this one a bit too hard (particularly at some ops levels). Furthermore, it's yet more time consuming activities. Off set this stuff with g6 freebooters and bulk refines everywhere (faction store, alliance store etc.) and you've nailed it

[rough delta]

Mudd Chang Harrison

[dusky bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/planktons-army-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-i-can't-read-can’t-read-gif-15669249772939774248

[ashen briar]

This is the way! 🍻

[rough delta]

?

[past fox]

No boosts.

[civic geyser]

@tiny ivy so 66 is possible

[tiny ivy]

tested around a bit and most i could do was 20% damage. i did check and the 71 was with max fort

ok spoke to soon lol

[hasty quest]

why last survey asks my discord ID?

[vestal lava]

hopefully so they can ask you to do a screenshare

[civic geyser]

Id guess user name

[twilit lintel]

HAPPY

THAT CREW didnt work lol

[warm venture]

The requirements for the "easy" challenge are way too high..... lvl 68 hostiles have 23B health and you need to deal 3B dmg per point....you get max 7 points per hostiles that means you need to defeat 15 of them for the EASY task, while the HARD task requires 10 kills

[civic geyser]

Join the club with many others 🤣

[queen jolt]

so I can ping you if I need more info?

[scenic mulch]

Your people (aka the team) have all the numbers they can want. Thanks for trying to make them care though.

[warm venture]

They know your discord ID anyway since you are on this server 😅

[obtuse sonnet]

Max fortify and you should be able to get r done

[vestal lava]

@tiny ivy that cube is showing 28 billion power, mine is 22. must be some huge artifacts/research going on

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-neeson-i-will-find-you-taken-gif-5593626

[obtuse sonnet]

Wrong ship for battle triangle but more below decks for me

[tiny ivy]

(qsd is a jump of 2b or so) 22 is pretty low. Most t16 cubes should have 25b+ these days

[weary mango]

yea it was way back, they put some weird pve officers below with odo and probably 2 pvp officers and said it was good crewing 😂

[twilit lintel]

found the crew

with enough teaks below i can do it

tweaks

[hidden python]

I'm Ops 70 (just) and my T16 cube is 29b power, wouldn't say I have done anything special or got stuff F2P couldn't have by now

[tiny ivy]

(to be fair i have two extra FC slots due to winning packs, but that shouldn't change things too much)

[warm pivot]

hitting up almost impossible, but there is still room for the cube to grow so... i dont know... most players will hate em

[opal turret]

why you have nero on bridge if you have neelix below for 100% burn (I mean you should have)

[warm pivot]

and 67s

[tiny ivy]

so if you would head over to the toxic wastelands that is the feedback channels...

[obtuse sonnet]

My cube at t14 died lol for the 64s

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-gear-up-gif-12923195

[tough frigate]

Can you tell me why you can and I can't?

[hidden python]

Can always use the Enaran Execution Post for burn if you don't have the BD space

[night grove]

@queen jolt just let us punch down 1 or 2 levels for these challenge dailies !!!!!

[tiny ivy]

i think a hazmat suit would be better

[mortal canyon]

Apologies I really got into the feedback parts at the end and think I wrote an essay 😅

[twilit lintel]

i did

[warm pivot]

agility > protection, you dont wanna tank damage you wanna dodge ^^

[tough frigate]

How can you do this and I do nothing?

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[vague gull]

Feedback about the new hostile? You run a game server, just get someone to pull the stats. Most people I know in the late 60s or just hit 70 can’t even kill a single hostile

[hearty mauve]

beat me to it

[twilit lintel]

[hidden python]

Is he trying to be a Feral Druid Tank? 😆

[queen jolt]

Just saw it! appreciate your input buddy

[tiny ivy]

what's your BD?

[mortal canyon]

If you can get past the soft ranting I do eventually get to suggestions 😅🤣

[civic geyser]

Here’s a suggestion roll it back

[cyan nimbus]

I can kill 1 unbuffed and I have every artifact/ft/ct/officer maxed that you can for $20 a month. Slipstream and chrono deflector.

[vestal lava]

yeah, no juice for me

[fiery charm]

Lol, this survey is silly. I've died 20 times on the vger Orions and tried numerous combos.. I killed a single one with max fortify, fortify, Cerritos, a damage exo, and lorcas fist. That is not enough to do the challenge, and I can't fist 10 times a day.

[weary mango]

@queen jolt whats a discord ID 🤣

[hasty hemlock]

doesnt suder cause its apex barrier to kick in

[tough frigate]

Tell me yours. Because sweat doesn't work and it's harmful.

[queen jolt]

in your case its toodleloooo

[weary mango]

ohhhhhh

tot its some random number

[tiny ivy]

you basically just need to tank enough damage and repair enough hull to not die, then let neelix burn them to death

[weary mango]

@queen jolt sorry for the ping again 😅 , for the 'what crew did you use' do i include below decks?

[vestal lava]

it's gotta be the difference in ship power due to artifacts and research

[queen jolt]

yes ples

[weary mango]

alrightttt

[tiny ivy]

yeah, i feel like the hull repair favours and research need to be max with an extra bit of hull research

[main marten]

I'm not listing off every combination I tried and failed with. The game should be fun. beating my head against the wall for arbitraty restrictions is not fun

[vague gull]

Your survey is assuming people killed a hostile

[tiny ivy]

edata instead of seska for you

[loud chasm]

yes, agreed. im very close to quitting tbh, its just the same thing every month

[leaden meadow]

You need to enable developer mode and click the ... Icon on your profile, but only on a server or in pm, can't get it through settings menu itself

[weary mango]

o ive never seen that before

[weary mango]

@queen jolt last ping i swear 😂 , what if people didnt kill the hostile at all

[lofty snow]

you should be posting success crews, not fails 😄

[tough frigate]

But you have Suder equipped in the copilot position, and that's detrimental.

[tiny ivy]

get rid of quasi and take wok carol

[leaden meadow]

You can activate developer mode in discord settings > advanced
But username is probably enough for the survey

[vestal lava]

there's another 24 billion cube. There's gotta be a tone of research and artifacts between me atnd that 28 billion example

[civic geyser]

Cough * Ben *

[main marten]

I gave them username. I'm not doing more to figure out what they are asking for these dumb hostiles

[queen jolt]

say, you cant destroy the hostile yet?

[weary mango]

cool

[civic geyser]

Gonna be a lot of that on that survey 🤣

[tiny ivy]

not in this case. Yes, they do get massive apex barrier but you kill them with burn and not normal damage, so that's not important for this crew. Suder does increase your hull repair though which makes you survive longer

[jaunty holly]

@queen jolt I filled out the survey. I tried about 10 different crew combos last night. The demand for g7 is too great for the reward payout.

[flat knoll]

I have one feedback STOP TESTING game on max lvl dev accounts.

[twilit lintel]

lol

[main marten]

I CAN, but it isn't worth the repair bill to hit them 3-4 times each

[past fox]

try a FKR ship, whatever is your next best.

[weary mango]

now now we shouldnt be naming people even tho we all know who it would be

[hidden python]

Get Naga BD, makes it that bit cheaper 😅

[main marten]

or just add one more thing to the list of what I don't do... which brings one step closer to just not doing anything

[hasty hemlock]

is the suder crew just trolling

[ashen briar]

..as if the game today ain't annoying enough already 😡

[tiny ivy]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[jaunty holly]

@queen jolt you nerfed too many officers for g7 without us having replacements. Either remove the apex barrier, or make other officers that work. If you were gonna gimp all the officers, why push them to max level with the WoK arc.

[dusky holly]

@queen jolt , change (at least) the lvl 71-72 recon challenge dmg per point asap. Killing 10 hostiles will not complete that one. And killing 10 for sure is hard enough!

[hard bluff]

death crew. I can kill 1 but die doing it, got the daily done at least

[uncut nacelle]

I wrote it in the feedback but I think the main issue is the shield mitigation reduction aspect of this new hostile.

[hidden python]

What is all the drama, I don't even take dmg 👀 🎣

[naive escarp]

how do we get pattern buffers for the mission briefing sms that ends in a little over 1 day

[queen jolt]

noted on that buddy

[tiny ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-bait-clickbait-gif-7373851025472833661

[fiery dagger]

Anyone know where the actual outpost speedups come from? I've purchased the ability from the S31 faction store but can't see where to obtain them.
<@&509690795536941056> can you help?

[jaunty holly]

Try that on a 71

[weary mango]

heres an idea actually. ive played games where people get to test characters 1 month before they release on a beta server. these people then give feedback to the devs whether the char is too weak too strong too clunky etc. the devs then make changes following this feedback. this repeats about 6 times until the day the character releaases. i think this could be implemented. and no i dont want the streamers who suck up to scopely being the ones to test in the scenario this does get applied

[kind nexus]

Infact, it looks like you gained hhp 😂

[left crypt]

the leslie/m/suder crew worked

[vagrant meadow]

Cannot even launch survey to tell them how bad it is.

[weary mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theringer-pacers-the-ringer-last-dance-h4TTAa1Ehpew6PGhD5

[leaden meadow]

Right? I could probably do this with a realta, so easy

[tiny ivy]

obviously too easy then, make em harder!

[pine lava]

New ships, for new reasons, new crews for new reasons, changing FTs thousands of times, well, that what brings fun to a game. And just to say, i am not an F2P-Player, spent several K's for that, more and more, horrible game. Thx, for nothing Scopely.

[jaunty holly]

I spent 2 hours completing the damage done after I killed my 10. You wanna kill the game, its workng.

[pliant vapor]

I don't know Frantic. I must be doing something wrong because these 66's seem to damage me 👀

[weary mango]

well granted thats a rlly strong rot for 61

[loud chasm]

this is why i just dont think they give a lick about the players, just looking at the numbers for a minute you can figure out the math dont work. but they just make up a number and ship it, no thought given about the players

[ashen briar]

It's just a visual bug 😉😂

[jaunty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/fuddersngmi-fudders-ngmi-gif-27229416

[wanton dove]

Show below deck, and which vt/ ct

[muted tartan]

It’s has taken me 6-7 hours just to complete my challenge dailies. <@&509690795536941056> this needs to be reviewed asap

[weary mango]

its what the form is for

[kindred briar]

i posted whats working for me at 68 in the help eachother channel

[muted tartan]

I have completed that as well. Let’s just hope they’re listening. From what others are saying on my server politeness is in short supply

[gilded basalt]

This is a Joke. Trying all these different crew suggestion and Nope nothing but les Sigma Trit and anger is building yet again

[weary mango]

yea but considering a lot of the 71+ that cant finish it they're probably gonna have to listen

[wide cloak]

How do I find which server I'm on?

[jaunty holly]

Push every to g7, then remove all the officers they used to use then watch them all quit enmasse, that about sums these last 3 arcs up

[leaden meadow]

Agony Booth FT + Chrono Deflector CT but doesn't really matter. As long as you can survive it's Neelix that does all the work

[hidden python]

Huh it works against lvl 71 Orions as well but with more added shields 😆

[jaunty holly]

@queen jolt im game for making some aspect of the game harder, but the rewards have to be there, and i dont mean 10 trit and a officer shard

[leaden meadow]

I went very boom on a 70, dead by round7
Guess I can't outrepair the dmg

[past fox]

how many rounds?

[weary mango]

7

[hidden python]

Max Hugh, Max Suder, and max burning hull repair favour from burning and the premium dust research for hull repair max'd as well

Can't survive one round against a lvl 72 mind

[karmic estuary]

these arent programmed properly

i even just did the Omega NSEA .. and i still died and didnt revive lol

[leaden meadow]

I'm missing a few things like final level of premium mirror research, 1 tier on pichugh.
Let's hope they nerf em anyway before I have to max those out too and do 10 runs twice a week once I hit ops69

[karmic estuary]

i can kill 1 ops 68.. rinse repeat.. fun haha

SUDER adds a massive apex barrier ti says.. not sure why ppl are using him

[hidden python]

Its definitely not ideal for the majority thats for sure and I'd rather not have to burn disco juice to do 10 hostiles quickly

[split flicker]

Is the daily scoring anything for damage done yet for Orions?

[weary mango]

i went 8 🤣

[hidden python]

Apex barrier does nothing against 1% hull burn per round with burning active, just need to out heal the dmg dealt

[leaden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-can-i-say-mia-courtney-taylor-neon-i'm-the-best-gif-917860154105989801

[weary mango]

just missing 1 more tier on pic hugh

[karmic estuary]

i go 100 arounds with this

[weary mango]

i need an officer that decreases my crit chance on hostiles 😂

[nova shadow]

Im not opposed to hard hostiles, but just cheesing deaths with Leslie seems like the opposite of a challenge and more like doing your taxes.

[hidden python]

This is the way.... currently

[karmic estuary]

1 at a time.. need 20 to finish both challenges

[weary mango]

there was someone who put it vv nicely earlier today, if you've got almost the whole playerbase moving back to leslie to kill hostiles again then you've done smt wrong

[karmic estuary]

its the damn shields on these things

[weary mango]

they reduce your shields by i think around 25-30%. not entirely sure cuz wok carol is messing up my mental calcs

[fading sage]

Should i buy half of Prime Hull Breach Resilience or half of Prime Crit Floor

[weary mango]

but considering i crit 4 times on cube with carol on and they start ignoring my shield after i assume its around that much

[twilit lintel]

i sense a new ship coming soon for these new ships lol

[mortal elk]

Are you PVPing or going after Xindi?

[fading sage]

No Xindi problem

[mortal elk]

there's a few hostiles that throw breach around now as well I guess?

[fading sage]

It's for pvp only

3 rounds

[weary mango]

its 3 rounds cumulative iirc

so 3 rounds in you're reducing their crit dmg by 450%

[fading sage]

I was thinking about crit floor just in case Scopely decides to add another hostile with Crit Reduction like in Elite solo waves

[weary mango]

that is the more all rounder option

[fading sage]

Ah okay, im going for it

[weary mango]

im going the hull breach thing tho since im a big IST user

[soft glen]

Scopely, Stop Nerfing Officers!!!!!! Fix what's broken! Do Better.

[weary mango]

well technically they didnt nerf the officer 😂

they just made them harder to use

[soft glen]

They just need to stop it.

[kindred briar]

are we having fun yet?

[soft glen]

Nope

[karmic estuary]

copy the crew bove youll pass 68

[vestal lava]

@hidden python you haVE A 29 BILLION POWER CUBE. YOU HAVE A ton OF RESEARCH, ARTIFACTS, AND OTHER POWER ADDERS. mY CUBE IS 24

[kindred briar]

its in help eachother

[ashen briar]

Looks like a lot of 'fun', no doubt. 🫣

[leaden meadow]

No need to shout man

[vestal lava]

sorry caps lock

[loud chasm]

i bet the devs and managers are, laughing all the way to the bank

[nova shadow]

They about to patch in Leslie doesn't work against them and make them even harder.

[kindred briar]

badgey below did best marcus harrison s31gg was the only crew for 1hull 1 kill so far

[weary mango]

yes 😂

[weary mango]

u said it not me 🤣

[soft glen]

Always

[hidden python]

Only been getting them as fast as any other f2p could have done, I haven't paid for anything I have power wise on my cube

[twilit lintel]

yup seems like flashpoint ims 3 all over again lol

[leaden meadow]

That just looks like incursions but pve

[gilded basalt]

Nothing is working and chewed thru all my rss for buffs and what not

[soft glen]

Packs incoming

[kind nexus]

Something isn't adding up here 😂

[vestal lava]

@hidden python gotta be something, I am about halfway through G6 combat research, but your cube power is the highest I have seen at that tier

[main marten]

Sure, cause this has encouraged me to spend less than I did 😄

[soft glen]

Same

[kindred briar]

the best way i found so far was harrison on side i am hunting a crew to help my 71+ allies only 1 kill to go saving it for finding the cheater crew like demarco was to armadas

[gentle sable]

I'm level 69 and was looking forward to the day I hit level 70, now I just want to put up a 30d shield and play some other game, wtg scopely

[leaden meadow]

Mostly buildings/hull and shield health research, FC and FT/CT probably

[hidden python]

I am still missing alot though, I have seen bigger T16 cubes

[vestal lava]

yeah that's a lot more premium mirror research than I have

[kindred briar]

best luck so far

[leaden meadow]

Can you show us your buildings? My artifact and premium research is similar
And do you have 4 FC slots?

[grand sail]

Even with recommended crew I can’t kill these hostiles. Think I’m checking out of this arc

[hidden python]

Yeah 4 slots here, umm what buildings?

[vestal lava]

slipstream?

[leaden meadow]

Subspace relay, anything that increases hull or shield health really

[kind nexus]

At his stage, 2.5k from a max SSR building isn't doing anything for the power 😂

[long prism]

You Tube Time @everyone

Are you struggling to Kill the New V'Ger Orion Hostiles??

I got you covered - Todays Video We discuss how G5, G6 & G7 players have taken down these hostiles, which crews work and WHY they work are all explained here!

Please let me know in the comments should you have any questions or other suggestions!

Thanks all and enjoy!

https://youtu.be/egneSoZwKZQ

[warm hedge]

yeh it's trash

[night grove]

better be a massive comp chest for this awful new daily to compensate for players hemorraging rss, buffs, exo's trying to do it

[hidden python]

Sorry for the spam 😅

I think thats all of it

[loud chasm]

so the solution is to have a maxed cube or g6 epic on 71, got it

[twilit lintel]

with cherry buff LOL

[half hornet]

hello, does fleet admiral skill upgrade power contribute to score in BP events that require power from buildings&research ?

[gilded basalt]

Sing along.... This game is dumpsterfire and It Burns Burns Burns this dumpsterfire we go down down and flames get higher Ohhhh what a dumpsterfire

[weary mango]

the wave building i assume its 60?(maxed) and the building beside engine tech building, or the building to the right of the wave def building

[twilit lintel]

9 more to go

[weary mango]

oh yea i saw your wave building is 60 in the shipyard ss

[leaden meadow]

Oh an overview was fine too 😄 you didn't have to screenshot everything haha

[jade narwhal]

thx for making hostiles ill never kill scopely