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Yeah only they have exhausted all rare in the test environment š maybe they ran one or two to check the dpr and stuff š¤·
does mining exo work in mu?
No it doesn't but you can mine in high speed systems
do u know any?
Your nsea or selkie will mine atleast 2X faster in other spaces
dhi ban, yadow, beta paldorios
So what is the best crew for the vindicator
almost a week in and theres still no event calender :?
Good
starting to look like the last year of stfc before they pull the plug
first they chase everyone away then they pull the plug
Oh no šÆ what to do I'm 35 no wife no job live in the basement of my mom and dads house

seems i gotta be op 61 to do more research for T-d t-a lol
Don't forget research research and more research
wish scoley had button to upgrade all research that u can do lol
tihis mining tak is a joke
mu
it wouldn't work. just like the "research qol" they tried to add, it would get stuck on a prime you forgot to buy š¤£
still no fix for these ??? its already a week later
Did you purchase the "00m00s Warp Time Stuck Fix Prime"? Full unlock is only 10 installments of $99.99......
Thank you <@&509690795536941056> for making mining any RSS impossible on our server
Lol
wish nsea had nx01 ability and an ablity to travel to places the ship has been in the mu kinda like disco
bypassing the tokens
come on scopley, get the blumin event right, theres either no vanguards or no honor guards/ I need one lvl 50 honourguard to complete stage 3 but nothing
Is that the next survey ship release for mining the new resource?
our server has unlocked TWO new experiences! we now have the ability to leave messages unread even after we mark all read AND we now get to press Recall twice to leave Transogen Space
Scopley just wow I shake my head with all the stuff from this arc just wow
Ok quick question so Iām ops 56 and now have access to the crozier and since it will take me a while to gather the cores for the acc should I go ahead and get the crozier or just wait it out for the enterprise d at lvl 60
Donāt have have rom faction that high yet
then hop to it
get it mate, you gonna need her plus she makes your cube lvl up
The crozier ok then thanks
no
2+ years on this experience
*6 years and going with that bug
thankfully I took 1.5 years off the game to give them time to fix it
I picked up 4 different phone games during that time - average maintenance time ( with obligatory comp chest ) 15mins and average monthly error count 0
not really
iām missing a ship that couldāve allowed it to get up into the at least 100, millions by now
this game definitely contains the best ideas for gameplay, but can't believe the maintenance and error count continue to eat up so much of the gameplay
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Best crew as ops 60 against the hurak entity?
there is no easy answer to that, depends on what you have and what you hit
everything in g4 however might be easy with pm e data
I hope everyone is stocking up on transogen as soon nobody will be able to mine it
Use pike ⦠demarco and tolra
And usual armada below decks
@dusky cove what makes you say no one will be able to mine it
because of the process requiring a restart to see each threat in Transogen space
this is the success event which leads me to believe, though I could obviously be wrong, that not meeting it means the Haruk complete their invasion and we can't mine transogen
Alright thanks
I seem to be getting this issue where every time i redeem a faction chest or refinery chest. i cant close the window that pops up
since there are 4 events and 5 possible endings. 0 1 2 3 4 events finished, that leads me to another assumption.
0 all systems with hazard
1 G3 free from hazard
2 G3, G4 free
3 G3-G5 free
4 all free
I may have overlooked something but where did you read about 5 possible endings? I agree with "x events finished" but so far it just seems Hurak invasion repelled/failed to repell the invasion
how many stages of the IMS you finished can maybe determin the ending
Certainly possible and we'll know soon enough but so far it just seems successful/failed. I would this does tie into the complaint about a lack of communication/transparancy. That was better for awhile but since a few months they seem to have dropped the ball on that again
Telling us this will change the game forever then not even releasing a video to show what happens to the galaxy if you don't complete x/y is so stupid.
They have fumbled this mechanic so hard it's amazing to watch.
So how are we supposed to open epic chest when theres no armada talking about flash point?
Wow. This is truly one of the most terrible arcs in a long time. I am not sure if I could be less interested in arc specific content.
It would be good to know what the consequences are for not finishing. I doubt many servers will get there because stage 3 scoring and directive sourcing was so poor
Aug was worse tbh
That's like comparing two soggy š© sandwiches and arguing over the taste.
Zero servers will finish it
and the year is not over.. they did two horrible ones back to back and followed by this thing š
ugh the grind is real
And the fact that their "fix" for the non-appearing Rare anomalies appears to have broken the Epics too... š
That sends a strong message to scopely. They missed the mark on the events a bit š¤
Is this a memento for something we will never seee again?
It sounds like faction borders may change at least till the end of the month, then reset again for next month. No idea how that affects missions or hunting hurok.
they expected a certain pay 2 win attitude here.. seeing all the packs in the store
ppl dont pay for doable milestones
Does anyone know where the krenim are? Cause....can't finish the event.
They've run Wandering Warriors several times already, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back again.
I'm tired of these guys creating problems and then having the audacity to try to make you buy the solution. It's kind of like shooting someone and then offering them $100,000 for life saving surgery.
That was my understanding. I thought borders might change as the Klingons capture new systems, but donāt think it affects our ability to go there or mine. Otherwise the loop dies if we canāt engage with it until the next iteration. We will see in time I guess
Anything you buy should be towards enhancing the experience versus making it a necessary fix.
It's their business model, the whole game is built that way.
So Scopely can kiss my š¢y.
Next month we will get a miner that has a damage boost against Hurok and Suliban chasers.
There are some parts that are genuine enhancements that aren't Scopely-inflicted problems
The Northstar-A!!!!
What makes you believe they care? Anybody could have predicted this
So why I'm I getting all these notifications from scopely, that invasions is finishing .. I'm EU ... these things don't make sense
Thatās true. I wonāt pay for stuff that doesnāt have long term value either. If itās something like materials or directives then once theyāre gone, theyāre gone. At least with a ship, some FT or an artifact, it has value for more than a day or two at a time
@woven dune š¤£
Wish I was a 9 year veteran .. yes 9 .. did all the beta stuff in in 2015
But congratulations, Scopely. You've successfully created content that long-term players despise and refuse to engage. Your devious master plan is fully in motion.
šÆ
I didn't engage in last to arcs as they took nothing away ... I'm not engage in this one either, taking away weekend slb for crew is just money .. all that crew they want me to get is t4 or maxed ..
to be different they call it the south starš or more evil a West,East and South star one for each grade of it
I hope the introduces the same arc in August so I can enjoy my holidays
. Sarcasm offf
The issue isnāt this. Most gaming is putting a problem in front of a player and letting them figure out how to solve it. New arcs and months that do this in stfc have generally been fun and satisfying.
The issues are that this arc is:
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Broken content: happens often, but this arcās technical problems will literally stop players from progressing through it at all.
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Has poor rewards: Compared to last arc, where we got a great fleet commander and very useful rewards for the effort, these artifacts are nowhere near as valuable.
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Has a terrible time vs. reward ratio: If the rewards were a lot less than last month but the time/effort needed to get through it was far less as well, weād generally be ok with it. But they actually increased the time commitment needed. š¤Ŗ
Tldr: The juice is just not worth the squeeze.
Add Pelia and Wok joakin below, the hurak are very iso skewed
@solid sparrow personally I couldn't be bothered with the grind for fc khan.. I've got nowhere in my slots for another pvp fc .. maybe they should archive older fc , with the abilities they have to make room for more
ironically he's got only three pve skills, but those help immensely against new hostiles, both exiled augments and hurak/suliban
which ones?
apex barrier and shred and stacking crit damage
Sure, and if pvp also isnāt your thing, heāll be far less valuable as well. But the Augment favours are nice, and if you just want to single pull the com/unc/rare/epic stuff with fairly easy grind, unlock the reliant in due time and just eventually unlock the favours as they come, the time commitment will be very reasonable and the rewards will be good.
Thatās a good balance, and the option is there to do more (a lot more) to get it all sooner. Thatās actually a good design imo.
how am I supposed to complete this event? I rushed from ops 29 to 34 and now i am 95% maxed ops 34 and not even reached stage 3 in this event....
Rushing won't complete it
by logic i have spent a lot of g3 mats
By contrast, this month is forcing major grind into a very short tome period, will do it several times, has crazy high objectives to earn much less, and has broken mechanisms.
To each their own, but saying this arc is similarly bad to last arc is crazy to me. Last arc is what we should want more of, and this arc is legitimately the worst weāve had in a long time.
Iām not mad or raging. Just objectively reviewing things, this arc is bad. Real bad. š
Changing the spend event to a far, far worse model is unrelated to the actual arc content, but is just adding even more awful to the awful.
Build ship and do research not much to say
Ships too ?
G3 unc rare epic ? All
Build more G3 epics
Yup
i did d3 and maxed it, didnt push it much
nah d3, got only 60k faction credits not enough to get g3 epic yet
Plus the Enterprise is still better than the D4
yh saving for ent
Then you weren't ready
Any day thats like best ship for its grade xd
not only ops and buildings take g3 mats
but with maxed buildings and research i should be done w this event?
Build some more ops 26 or 28 ships thats what i used to do back in the day š
nope
And if you have lat to burn you can actually buy faction credits with latinum
They have good scraping value
Thereās so much efficiencies in the game now, the bottleneck in g3 is not mats as it was when we were there. Now itās speedups/lat and faction credits. Dude could probably max a g3 epic or three with the mats he has.
Makes spend event smsās rough for sure.
faction survey, and other faction ships
They are super cheap actually if you got g3 fkr favor which everyone should get
The event's not based where you are in a level. And it can't take into account the amounts of cost efficiency you have.
Doesn't that require arenas?
Yea wait arena not for below 40s ?
$, or accept you wont max this spend event.
If you're an ops pusher, then you'll want high amounts of build speed and building CE. But for events like this, it helps if you leave research CE neglected.
I mean most people never get to generally atleast in one go
When you get to a "camp point" like 60, all of your buildings are done and all of the mats are free to use. You can then spend all of the mats in expensive research, but high scoring for you.
What I don't like is why the scoring is different this time for g6 build a t10 nova yesterday then saw got 0 score checked scoring g5 don't count anymore 𤦠it was really odd
Then you didn't prepare properly if you werent ready to get your G3 epic right away
i am using voyager
The spend mat events aren't meant to be maxed every run
guildies told to rush
I went into g4 with t4 g3 epic ships because of how rough mat sourcing was back then. Now you can max your ships fairly easily.
The tradeoff is that you might earn less officer shards in spend events. Probably a really great tradeoff, especially with all the other ways to source officers these days.
You got a ops 28 or 32 fkr ship ?
Voyager is worse compared to the G3 Enterprise at your level
I saw a few g3 have multiple ent now days š
they useless
Nope thats how u mainly score in mats slb
Right? That was a mega whale back in the day. š
once i unlock ent will max it straight
And no bortas on ops 28 is best or sali
Even having 2 of the three was a tall order
scrapping currently mayflower for some g4 primes
I got all 3, but only finished maxing them around ops 46 or so lol
Well wasn't that hard for me but definitely not as easy as now š started playing 2 year 9ish month ago
You can gun through all of g3 in a couple months now. That was 12+ months at least when we went through it
Ahh. Yeah I went through it likely in 2021 or 2022
G4 is even more easy to push now with higher refinery payouts š¬ well g4 will face ship part problem tho ha ha
we will never see you again event fair thy well
That was running?
Thereās gonna be a ton of bad advice out there now, as itās ancient and obsolete. From a time with vastly different in-game economies.
With speciality ships you might not even need a g3 epic ship at allā¦
Honestly build a ops 28 ship sali or bortas that might help you complete the sms
no sniff wish it was
They got good scraping value and they are pretty good actually
I was gonna say
lol
Yea just build it š they give nice rewards when scraped
We used to build and scrap one for ops 34-35 to get all the primes
It will ofcourse its a monthly event
i need it now lol]
More than one atleast 2 to get the stella etc prime ha ha š
Iām tempted to start a new account and see how fast I can get to g5 adās a free to play
and they better not add transogen to the trade in LOL
Less than a year i think
Probably 7 to 8 months if you don't wanna get super strong for your ops
Yeah. I was thinking 6-8 months, but lat and speedups might be more of a bottleneck than we realize
Might not be since the lat pay it pretty good now ngl
@solid sparrow have relaint at good tier .. but so I have to have a 4th pvp fc to win battles ..on 5 spots .. no blocking anyone from pvp .. just wish I could do arenas.. never done one .. the times in EU doesn't work for me ,
What happened to the ahead of the curve? It appears like some of the events have been removed from it.
3 months ago overflow etc didn't even give 40k total now it gives 3 or 4 m
it sucks only gettin 80k lat aday from the achive i need more
It sounds like they checked all the boxes to turbo new players and old returning ones through to g5 asap
Better than what i had when i was 40ish š
Definitely
not sally tho?
Sally was the workhorse we used for everything
We honestly had maybe 10% of the mats that you do now
And efficiency no were even close enough š
But the true mega mats drip are in g4 right now they getting buckets
So building two g3 unc ships to get the primes was using enough mats that it set back your ops development a couple months. Was definitely worth it, but it was a tradeoff.
Today is a good time to shield, and rest, the Arc is a shambles
I dont even know if Iād bother with the Stella loop anymore in g3. Such small gains for time commitment
How do I stop this from popping up in the event claims every few minutes the event ended but it still keeps popping in the event claims to collect rewards after I finished all my milestones and collected it already
Your teammates are right though, keep pushing ops like crazy. Unless you really canāt kill stuff you need to kill to finish events, your goal should be to push ops nonstop.
Mind you that popped up after it ended
The rogue store is Rubbish,
Because you can only get one thing from the Armada credits
i play camping strat
Back when I was in g3, the research efficiencies there were essential to progress. Now they seem inconsequential, a small drop in the bucket compared to what you get elsewhere for 2% of the effort lol
following a bit revs guides
I've been L44 for 2/3 Arc's and what's ahead of me is painful grind
Rev is great, but he went through these levels ages ago when the economy was vastly different.
His old guides wont steer you wrong, but they wonāt be close to whats best for maximum growth today.
That said, maximum growth is also not everyoneās goal. If itās working for you and youāre having fun, thatās all that matters. š
3 lasted far too long, they should introduce4 a few levels early
i mean i like to max myself before going up again
tbh they should release new vids with current meta
for us new gamers
A basic rule of thumb to consider though, is that its far easier to backfill less valuable stuff from a higher ops than it is to do complete it at your current ops.
why u wanna bubble?
So have they announced why lower star materials are gone from the SLB or just silent nerfing in hoping we didnāt notice?
Iām at 13 shards of the new plump Klingonā¦soā¦10 flashpoint arcs to unlock is the expectation to unlock himā¦?
A research now that costs 5% of your lat to speed up and letās say 5% of your mats to click, will take 0.5% of each when you are 5 ops higher.
At higher ops you earn much more stuff, plus you unlock more efficiencies as you progress through content.
So if something is needed to progress, or is great like efficiencies, do it before you progress. But if its something small like a slight boost to mitigation or hull strength or whatever, you can backfill it for much cheaper later.
Silent nerfing just like no new officers in the SLB/SMS, no regular Syndicate event, etc. This is the arc of huge new grinds, no QoL updates, squeezing out the f2p, and impossible events/pulls. Edit: I guess mining xp could be considered a small QoL update.
Out of curiousity, with the mining xp for the miners now, does a 550% ship XP exocomp work on that as well? Or is that just for killing hostiles?
More upgrades to g4 refinery but shouldn't we upgrade g5 refinery?
Ship XP exos don't show up in the combat exocomp area.
It's all part of their push to get people to more spendy G5.
I give it a 50% chance of being a downgrade, and then Scopely acting like they don't understand.
Scopely gets math wrong a lot, and fails to run calculations for each level/tier.
They have not, and everyone has noticed. I donāt envy the team on here come Monday morning. š
These negative stealth changes and bounce for the weekend always work⦠for that weekend. Then the pitchforks and community outrage forces a review, compromise/reversal and finally a pledge to communicate and listen better next time (spoiler: they donāt š)
Am I the only one noticing the Ahead of the Curve? Or was that covered already and I missed it?
Shouldn't there be a weekly scoring for today? There's not.
Side note, it looks like 550% ship xp doesn't work on mining xp
NSEA event is up
I don't get that event. I have a daily SLB and a daily SMS that scores for that, just like yesterday.
I don't think the NSEA is for the weekly is it?
Anyone able to tell me how this gold rush event is started?
It always shows up an hour after reset for me. Something something daylight savings time. Yours may differ based on region/timezone.
Scopely doesn't understand DST.
Okay, would be the first time, I have never gotten that event.
Just says it applies to it, not that it applies to the weekly. I think the weekly is a leaderboard one isn't it? Where you have to score in the top 2 or 3?
Its swarm sunday for lower ops, no?
I don't have it either even though I have an NSEA
Swarm doesn't score anymore, that's what I get instead I guess.
Once your server finishes ims stage 3. Which isnāt likely to happen anywhere.
Didn't know swarm was still a thing, lol. Maybe they should refresh that too.
i got a protector, but i got swarm sunday ... glad scopely continue to diappoint, nothing changes
Basically, it looks like they have been pulling the weekly Ahead of the Curve scores out. The NSEA event mght be ops 45.
They're trying to tell you that you're squishy weak.
I'm at 41 so it must be 45
Or maybe its once your franklin-A is maxed? Not sure
It's not exborg, I've had that for a bit. Edit: its ops 45, found an old post announcing it.
so they're just leaving it at that, stage 3 is impossible, moving on? Who came up with these milestones?
Usually I finish the ahead of the curve very early, this time I won't finish it, and I have noticed very few events scoring for that.
I donāt think ahead of the curve changed at all, I finished it a few days ago
My guess is they are copied from earlier arcs.
has a single player in the entire game completed the stage 3 sms?
Swarm hasnāt scored for months, I donāt think it ever scored for ahead of the curve
How many days should there be without an ahead of the curve weekly scoring event?
I donāt recall if cosmic cleanup counts or not, I think it doesnāt so pre 45 2 days and post 45 just the one
Pretty much. Try not to let it bug you too much.
Between technical issues with the solos not spawning properly, sms/ims levels being way too high and rewards being out of whack with the effort, they need a serious retool for the next run.
Best to think of this as a beta test that revealed serious issues.
Maybe Scopely gives us a nice comp next week? Not a big deal either way, nobody is progressing faster than you as a result of this, the terrible events are equally bad for everyone.
They were there for sure, you may have missed them with everything else going on
Fair enough.
Yes, got very, very lucky on the flashpoint exchange pulls (and I started after the epics disappeared)
Iām usually in-game and not here chatting. Thats how bad this arc has been. š
No, I didn't. I'm not saying I didn't do them, I'm saying I couldn't find it in the events. And there isn't much going on for me, because the new material is not designed for my ops level.
Monday - mining
Tuesday - hostlies\q trials
Wednesday - Xindi + armada directives
Thursday - not sure if this has one actually
Friday - Hirogen
Saturday - cosmic cleanup
Those were all there this week
The events were there, the scoring was not.
Take a screenshot and make a support ticket imo. If you really donāt have them its possible something is borked.
There is supposed to be a weekly one everyday.
If you have them and they arenāt scoring in the meta thingy, definitely make a ticket.
I admittedly didnāt check because Iād finished I think by Tuesday but it would be highly unusual if the same event ran but somehow didnāt score ahead of the curve points
The events are there, I did the events, but they did not score, and the text that used to appear saying they did, is missing.
I check the events and cannot find ones with the weekly scoring text, though I find what looks like the normal events.
I even have daily SMS ones that do not score for the event. (in actuality, and by the description as well)
I have no way to go back and check, so Iāll just say I finished around the same day I always do and it felt pretty normal to me
Just saw a share of that new ship popping a 70 base. 450t ship vs 250t baseš„·š»
Even she couldn't complete sms 3
It's possible. There are certain ones that I usually use, might not be the same ones you do.
Yeah, thatās what we were all waiting for, the G4 refinery! What a joke
Should make it entertaining for the 7 people with Vengeances next incursion.
Maybe the 70's will start to learn shield discipline.
... Didn't we already do this g4 update a few months ago?
Now do G6.
yeah, we got one a while a ago, together with some other kind of bonus ref which allowed you to pull 100 chests or so
I completed stage 4
Is that Fueling The Fire SMS new? the announcement makes it sounds like an older event updated, never heard of it before though
where?
Another G4 boost 𤣠𤣠𤣠you guys are joking right?... RIGHT?
CM posting a sunday announcement about an updated refinery nobody asked for. Seems they trying to deflect from another š© weekend and another š© arc.
Maaaan and I still think the removal of the need of having a G3 epic or a Jelly for G4 was a big mistake for many players, these refinery updates make them probably rush even more.
I'd love to see this boosted refinery include ship parts, but I don't see that happening
I don't recall it. I assume it refers to lighting a fire under the G4's feet to get them to upgrade to G5 sooner.
That's a lotta commas.
And try to force them into spending more money... they dont want to create any new content for g4 and tring to get everyone out of it.
early G4 is already loaded as crazy, they pushed like 2 or 3 things to 42 and 45 I think, but ill prepared players suddenly have to do tons of things
it def doesn't need more stuff
Yeah, but if you only make content for G5's, the G4's will get unhappy.
true, that's an issue with how they design events
But, many quit late g4 early g5 because they feel they are being forced to spend to get anything out of content. Not saying its all bad, but those of us who've completed g4 and g5 its useless.
Should have gone to parts not mats, they've had massive g4 pulls for months now with 12, now upping it to 15 with more rewards?!?! Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
took me 9 months to do , 31 lvl to 63 with 2 battle passes only
i dont understand people staying in g3-g4-g5 forever for no reason
They def want you to spend, I feel that is also the reason they give you mats and not parts one levels your OPS and pushes you even higher
you are very bad at this game
When did the Mat spend for 61+ become spending G6 Only for credit? Lame.
You must have spent a tom or dont do research. Otherwise you ate a flat out liar. And probably suck at the game
What's your in-game name? I call bull
neither
RudeAwakening eu 167 defiant
Does this recent announcement include ship parts?
not on 167
try ValarMorghulis with greek O
Absolutely zero chance of that ever happening
max your assessment rank lol
yep I saw
Maxed arena rank with near zero spend does seem a bit unlikely.
But overall I do agree, its quite possible to progress fairly quickly with minimal/no spend.
game changed a lot over time
cannon had a lucky pull
you can go through the lower levels like a rocket ship
yes , ssr revenant made possible to jump levels like crazy
had a lucky pull of both the epic CTsš
"Don't do research" is partially the answer. Much of the research has very minimal value, and can be completed once you have finished the buildings and ships of that economy.
i have all epic ft from ATA
true , dont research much , got to g6 , research research speeds -efficiencys and then catching up is nothing
I did much of the g4 and g5 research needing mat spend after I was out of that economy.
Yeah. A g5 research that costs 50k lat to speed up is a decent amount of lat at ops 56. At ops 66 that's a tickle.
excactly
i did my g3 reasearches that i thought it was crazy when i was 35 lvl the time wanted at 56 lvl
If the research has the word 'efficiency' in it, get it done asap. Otherwise, that 50% mitigation boost to your interceptors vs. hostile battleships can probably wait lol
i was bad most of the time yes
but now that i reached g6 and spend an entire vault on researches i am good
Heck, even the g6 researches that want a bunch of unc mats to boost hull strength another 25%... My hull is boosted like 10,000% already. I'll probably do that when I'm in g7 and don't need the mats for anything else.
It feels unintuitive to not do everything you can at each ops level. Buts its about opportunity cost for that lat/speedups and materials.
when you are 60 its better to jump 61 and do the researches then as the rewards are soooo much better, you can speed through them
but now the g5 materials dont count towards weekend auctions when in G6... so... NO thanks
That's 100% true, and is true of all economies. Better to sit at ops 52-53 and catch up on g4 research you want done, than sit at 49 or 50 trying to do the same.
That said, this new arc is brutal for 61's. From awful event scaling to the awful spend event changes, it actually makes more sense to stay at 60 now. Hopefully they see how dumb that is and revert the change.
Looking like a well designed event, assuming it was the devs intention nobody at all completed it that is. I'm curious if they'll blame the players for "not rising to the challenge" during the Q&A or if they'll actually admit they screwed up.
Some recent changes made it so camping 60 can make sense again.
in addition the new priority 1 Ata will need sigma speedups and completely cripple your officergrowth now... so GG scopely, you killed the incentive to rise in Grade
60s have the same SMS milestones as 61
P1ATA has a lot of value you can extract when using cheap speedups.
apparently its gonna run again with adjusted scoring
Ahh. So just awful all around then. š¤£
Yeah, ATA1 has been brutal at g6 compared to what my g5 alliance mates are doing.
And how many people are going to be motivated to even attempt it? The IMS metrics are hardly the only issue with this new loop
Why do I keep misreading P1ATA as PITA... 
just relaying the info I got lol, not saying its any goodššš
If you aren't doing those, and zeroing out for auctions, then yeah, push 61. That's the better camp spot.
Not to mention the spend event changes š
that MAY be terrible advice at this point and time. Thanks to the genius decision to not let prior generation mats score, sitting at 60 may be the better path at this point, becaue you leap into g6 adn don't have anything to spend UNC for two levels.
Even halving all the numbers needed likely won't be enough
emphasis on MAY
the person responsible for all these decisions dedicated to screw 60s plans entering g6 really need a few smacks to the back of his head
Its gotta feel bad for the players who were at 60 and were all gung-ho to push into g6 this month.
The idea is cool, the execution, however, is just soooooo bad
It needs a complete rework numerically. They also have to fix the technical side so things actually spawn/work as they should. They have a lot of work to do. Historically, that's not a great starting point for this company...
š¤·āāļø If they fix it all and its worth it, cool, we'll do it. If not, well... not the first arc to flop and get relegated to obscurity. The really annoying thing is the premium mirror dust we can get is supposed to be a replacement source for the awul arena sourcing. Now we got two terrible sources of it. š
no its not, stop trying to defend it. they screwed up 5 times too much this arc release
so that makes it a bad idea?
for whole g6, yeah
they lost their abilit to think
maybe split it so 66+ cant anymore and those new in the grade still can?
no, scopely is not able to think anymore
Not following you. Also not seeing where he's defending it.
The idea has potential. In its current form its a complete flop. That doesn't mean it can't be changed to be something good.
they release instable stuff
have no idea of how many systems might be a good idea
dont anticipate armadas blocking their respawns
there is so much they didnt think about that i m tired of listing it up
I agree, but that doesn't make it a bad idea
what they did was halfassed implementation without anticipating consequences. thats not a good idea, thats negligent
We all agree on this. But this is all implementation. The idea behind it had merit, and still does. They just have a LOT they need to fix for this to be viable.
I like the idea of faction borders being able to change and other consequences, based on the choices made as a server
It's not a bad idea, but they would have to redo it all - without copying and pasting parts that are already in the game. There's no evidence they are ever going to stop doing that.
Seems like we're just hung up on verbiage. The 'idea' in this case is the concept of the arc. Long-term story building, events that alter the map, etc. The ideas surrounding how they implemented it have been truly awful lol
whenever people try to defend the indefenseable they start bickering over how something is said instead of acknoledging immense failure, i m sick of such behaviour as well
š¤·āāļø Seems like you just want to be angry. You do you bud. I won't stop you. š»
he's talkign about removing g5 mats from g6 playes on sms, is that the idea that has merit?
It's not just the implementation of this arc that's the problem. It is the way Scopley implements all new events, arcs, and other content that is the problem.
after days of grinding there is nor sourcing for armada mats
1less than one day left that is sad
don t think you won just because i m sick of how you approach failure that screams for consequences
I mean, he was responding to the arc issues, not the spend event. They are clearly two very different issues. Nobody in here is defending the spend event changes. They're awful, and I expect Monday to be a well-deserved pitchfork-wielding army of rage. š
Which they will either ignore or have some half arsed roll back with lower generation mats scoring even less
the issue is that there are too many issues this arc
I vote to have whoever made these decisions livestream them doing all the current events on an ops 62 F2P account
I'm not trying to 'win' my guy. We're all on the same side. This is our hobby and we just want to enjoy it.
The spend event changes are awful and need to be reversed. The way they snuck them in is inexcusable. I expect Monday here to be a disaster of their own making.
Maurits and I were talking about the arc though. And what changes could be made to make it actually work.
The "problem" is that this is meant to be a recurring event for the rest of the year. It's just a way worse saris 2.0 event
Why would they do that? it's not designed for extremes, and f2p 62 is certainly unusual enough to be extreme.
There should have been automated test runs available for weak, average, and strong accounts, at least every other ops level, preferably every ops level
and the how many times will it be that players suggest great solutions that scopely isnt able to anticipate in advance? the 25th?
Whoever decided to push for more mats buying by removing lower economy spend scoring will never have to justify their decision, or reflect on their thought process. Its why we have these issues again and again and again.
I'm an F2P ops 64, wouldn't say I'm an extreme. As to why: They made a lot of choices that really hurt low G6, I'd just like to see them livestream it and elaborate how much "fun" it is and how it fits into the "living universe" theme
Well, F2P unless you count buying the whip years ago
okay, they started the arc at ops 40, let's see it ran with an average ops 40 account
The living universe thing seems like a bad attempt to copy what helldivers is doing, without any of the actual planning, support, or infrastructure around that being included.
Just expect a new wave of packs that will disincentivize players more than the game is already doing.
Because for many, many months in a row the strategic choices of players were designed based on being able to spend previous economy mats when moving to a new economy. Wether that be ops 50 going to 51 and 52, 60 going to 61 and 62, etc. To change that on a whim, with no announcement, no player feedback, no ideas on how to mitigate that hammer blow to people making that jump, is just awful, awful implementation. Something they do time and time again.
Did DTI-gate need to be handled the way it was? Gaila-gate? They just make the same mistake again and again.
I honestly think someone thought G4 = 4x, G5 = 5x, G6= 6x. Because they did not take the time to review the actual game.
They're really not that kind of studio. They put it out there, unpolished if it needs to meet their fast expansion cadence, and iterate on fixes and improvements.
It does feel like Starbases all over again. Grand concept, that likely got watered down over and over from design to implementation, that what got left behind is not anywhere near what they envisioned when they started out. If all they do is try to adjust the milestones a bit and try to sell us a solution next month, this feature will join Starbases in obscurity.
Which is a pretty big problem for them if this is their content for the next six months lol
really an upgrade to g4 refinery, complete ignorance to its player base by scopely yet again !!!
I know. But somewhere between the gold standard of the industry and what they do, is a middle ground where they float obviously serious nerfs to players to a committee that can look at ways to implement them better than they currently do. This change came out of left field for no good reason.
Except they don't. If it isn't the newest content, it is typically ignored.
Even the newest content, they don't improve it really, they bandaid it enough to where it won't completely fail and then move on.
Anyway, gonna go spend 30 minutes doing pulls then close stfc for the day. š» for the chats everyone. Will be here on Monday with popcorn. š
It definitely seems like the new monthly tent pole event.
Yay, endless grinding alongside the endless grinds they added not too long ago, with new endless grinds to come.
Quality over Quantity!*
- Quality in Scopely terms means quality of roi on pack designs to solve the problems they created.
Are there any plans to improve WOK, now that the new arc is out?
that improvement still needs 70 days of exchanging stuff for reliant blueprints
What improvements would you like to see?
anyone know where broken treasury parts are in the items tabs?
MAterials
Are you kidding! With a revamp of my g4 refinery ill be able to upgrade my stati....er meant my ship.....uhm, nevermind........
ah fml been scrolling other for 5mins ty
A quicker chance to get the ship with more BP pulls
at least this time we dont have to approve the doublepull
I don't see any reason for them to change the bp drip--100d is standard now.
but candle, have you tried playing a new account? you reach ops 30 before you had enough saturdays to even get 1 ship from the galactic cleanup, meanwhile you are burdened with leaving battlepassevents because you got no vidar and therefor no possibility to kill probes
Massive Lag on 126
They run end of arc event stores every 2m now, and I'd expect new players to get a lot of bps from there. I would if I started over.
plus AT
New content during two arcs and forget them xD
Doubt I'll engage with the next hurak run, this is an absurd grind for low G6 and I hope whoever cooked it up has to grind out a tripple pull on a F2P account (I'm certainly not nuts enough to attempt it)
I need 9,5m stuff and I can't kill 60+ hurak hostiles, I have a Minerva t6
Scopely lost the way much time ago
- Put preview on the faction store items. The currency symbols are too similar for me to visually see the difference.
- I would like to see the surveys on a variable timer, but I can understand why others might not.
- has the disappearing champion been fixed?
- come up with something to spend the original faction currency on, something we can use on a recurring basis
- more options for lower ops to get the higher currencies
- organize the WOK currencies and put them all in the same place in a list so we can see them easily
- the faction store is hard for me to read and find items in, I don't have a suggestion for that
- the lower systems need duplicates also, imho
- use the augment exiles regularly in events in lower numbers, not nothing for a while and then a large number of them
- display the amount of currency you're trading down to that you currently have, not just how much of the higher currency you have available
I can work on some more, if you'd like š
I have a max G5E, only way I can grind that out in a reasonable timeframe is with 3 max forts (about 3,5-4 mil loot each run) to kill 62's
What crew do you use?
And then there's the question if we'll even be able to mine transogen once all servers fail the event
Sspike, sspock, harrison works best so far, other crews worked worse
Jane, Doc, Annorax worked worse
Similar setup here with the same entD. I swap sspock for S31 Georgiou though. I found that killing them in r1 was the best move, and got rid of lower deck officers that had late value.
Wrath of Khan Scotty is good. I just acquired him. And next is getting Strange New Worlds Scotty.
I don't have Joachim (grinding rep as we speak) and he does seem vital for these
45 probably won't happen.
67 seem like issues true of all their factions.
8 why?
9 I think won't be a problem now that the arc is over, ie. we won't have those heroic events anymore.
Thank you for all the event information. It really helped me. See yāall later.
What I'd like to see is for the bulk refinery to be expanded to the faction tab
Can you kill 62's with those without buffs?
I kill 64s with it.
The problem is less the crew, than the hazard. It's eating me alive and I had to push research a ton to do this.
But that's less of a problem if your target is 62s.
My harrison and S31 G are a lower tier and no Joachim so that's likely not help
Improvements for this arc I'd like to see:
- change the canister exchange - put ops 40 and 41 in the 3* so they don't have to start with the level 42 hostiles
- change the containment exchange to 3* for 40 and 41 - why we have guaranteed sigma speedups at 40 and 41 I cannot fathom
- move the full flashpoint to ops 42+ imho (ops 40 and 41 are not going to realistically be able to participate)
- adjust the flashpoint IMS stages so they can actually be done
- get the research out (this should have been out when it opened, imho)
- increase the number of mining nodes at least, there are too few for mining to be an event
- fix the mission text so it matches with the flashpoint events
Makala's/Boldly Go
- adjust the spend items to be reasonable for each ops level
- ensure each ops level gets content they can actually do, it's okay to make it difficult, not okay to ask a new ops 40 to participate in polys, for example
- review all text so it's more clear and precise
- display the total number of points available, as well as how many you need (helps with seeing if you're on track)
- categorize the tasks correctly (there's 5 days, there's 5 tasks, so why are they not one in each day)
- include links to the pay store, for those players who want to buy something to finish one of the tasks
a few things I have thought of for this arc
alright guys its time for some STFC ...jump in and chat with me at: https://www.twitch.tv/mj_hat
The best crew for these hostiles I have seen is pike, Moreau, e-data (or janeway), and a very high level Joachim below deck with McKoy, Paris, Hugh, vael, BLT, etc etc etc.
Just gave it a spin, only took half the hull of a 62
But even with that crew, you are not going to kill 62s unless you have at least a T9 G6 uncommon or an equivalent cube
The power jump is just too high, and they should've made the power jump up higher at 64 versus 62s
Joachim is key on all the reds as they do massive iso damage.
yeah that would've made this a lot more bearable, the 60 are a joke besides finding enough to kill, 62 are decent loot but an absurd power leap
What round did you reach, and what was the reason for your death?
They killed me in 1 round
Killing 62s is literally impossible for a G6 unless they have a T9 uncommon or an equivalent cube or better. I've managed to kill one and survive, and survive with 5% health. I'm speaking strictly of the interceptors. The revenge hostiles are easy
The two biggest issues are probably mitigation and iso def then.
Even with a T5 Joachim, a T5 McCoy, and a T5 Paris, it's still not enough
The 62s are just too hard unless you have a very high G6 uncommon or better
likely, hence me saying a T5 joachim feels mandatory
Bottom line, this is just like WOK with overpowered hostiles, and they will sell us a ship next month to make them easy
They frustrate us, annoy us, in hopes that we will shell out 100 bucks for the ship
You're also level 67 with a bunch more research than a lower g6. So that's really not applicable to us 61 to 65
Just posting it regarding to this:
I can't say from personal experience, but I have also been told by others that joachim is almost a requirement if you're trying the ones close to your ops level
OK I'll amend that to mid to lower G6 because it's the lower G6 people complaining
Upper G6 has no problems with most of these, but lower G6 gets completely screwed
My ship isn't even outclassing it. I'm one of the weakest 67s in the game.
but there are a few researches that make it easier for higher ops as they work on all factionships and not just g6+
I mean, I think your G3 ent coulld also do stop a G4 players G4 epic can't š
It's great that you can do it, but considering there's tons of people complaining about this, it's clearly a problem
Is that Harrison 100%?
I wonder if that's due to the ent-d/triangle because my maxed out rot just gets one shot killed
Like dead in the first round on a level 62
That and Ent has 6 shots rnd1 vs Rot only having 4
Out of curiosity, mind trying that without Joachim? Just want to check I'm not getting my hopes up once I finish grinding him out
What FT/CT are you using? I had to swap to a stronger set: Metreon/Chrono.
Yep that's the same FC CT I use.
Joachim is super handy. Max Joachim and your Iso mitigation is in the high 80% to low/mid 90%
Maybe Godsend is better now that I look at it.
I think thats the CT he was using not sure tbh.
Metron cascada and godsend, Metreon isn't quite maxed as I'm struggling with the final Q enemies
PMC + FC Janeway
For Q trials.
Or this mirror, that I'm pretty fond of for pve.
Yeah tried that crew and FC janeway stuff with max fort and cerritos but banging my head against the current enemy
Which enemy you got. Some of them are a pita.
Hiā¦. In makāala crisol on day 3 in solo armadasā¦. Can please anyone tell me which armadas are? Becausa i tryed to do solo borg armadas and didnāt get any scoreā¦. thank youā¦
A 237,9B interceptor "klingon strike force"
The relativity solo armadas
Which system are theyā¦. Thank you
Osbor etc but I'm assuming you do mean the "borg type solo armadas"
This is what happens to me when i tried your crew @humble orbit
Tried my ent-d. Dead in 1 round on a 62 as well
Some key differences I notice:
No entD
You're using officers outside of my all-in on round 1 gun 1 strategy in the lower deck. I might crew differently with a rot, I'd need to examine how it shoots.
What's your Ld crew?
is that a max wok mccoy? š¤Ŗ
Mine is T4, one of my prized pieces lately. I've wanted a second Paris for ages, and finally got one.
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So more shield damage and seeing how you're several ops higher you also have more research so if it hurts you it'll likely wreck me, especially in combo with some other officers being a tier higher too
yeah, if you reach the mitigation with both of em plus the insane g6 officerstats research š
It's probably not research, mine is junk. It's probably artifacts and officers.
i m pretty proud of my officer progression as well, but even i struggle to make 62 farmable without buffs
I have a bunch of artifacts I can't upgrade until I get my gallery to 64
missing a few quasi shards, but he doesnt want to appear in the officer choice bundles ^^
Bt the way Candle, don't assume you can confirm if we can still mine transogen if we fail to stop the invasion?
I ended up trying: SNW Pike - Moreau - Harrison. LD: Kim - Torres - Paris - Bones - Joakim - Chapel - Saavik. Lets me kill the 62's.
Same idea, enough dmg to kill in round 1, then boost mitigation everywhere else.
just 3 more pulls š
Definitely dependent on research, artifacts, crew level, etc.
No idea on trans. But it does look like that is a consequence we're all going to experience.
I really pitty OH and Pauly if that ends up being the case
huraks wrath... scripted eventfailing xD
Any guesses when we can source the S31 officers ? For people who didnt play or just missed them on the S31 arc
In the GS31 refinery atm.
Point 8 is silly to try and enforce.
Point 5 seems way too long a time period. Could make it for July and re-evaluate every month. No idea what will come out between now and end of Sept. But I'd vote for no 5 or 8. Or E. either tbh. OPC is OPC.
Way too many alliances on my server that would never go along with 4. either.
damn, way more creds than i've been able to achieve
Nearly exactly the same except you're protecting warships for some reason. Don't, they know what they are.
won 1st place in mining slb, took me a good portion of sleep thou..
Both are way too complicated.
So scopley decided screw players and laughing at us
did anyone get their interceptor parts compo chest they said would be coming.
just imagine how many players screw themselves over... since we're making blanket statements with no backup
489/17,12k on stage 3 š
Absolutely ridiculous milestones
common is pretty hard to ged rid of at some pointš
All you need for roe isā¦
The following are protected:
1- Non-zero node, upc surveys
2- Ships in active armada circles
3- Token space
That is way too complicated
i agree , i play in a farmer server , they are pushing for pvp reduction over the years like maniacs
Rules of Engagement
The current rules of engagement.
Territory Takeovers
Only alliances actively enrolled in a takeover for a territory may partake. People are forbidden to jump to respective alliances to help in takeovers (during and prior)
The player must be in respective alliance for 7 days before they can partake.
During incursion events, it is not allowed to contest any takeover in a system that is already owned by an alliance.
Default Mining rules: (1/3)
NLNS applies to survey ships on a mining node.
No warning time required before attacking an OPC mining ship.
Mining ships can be attacked on a node without loot if they are no longer actively mining (i.e., the node is zero or the mining shipsā cargo is full.)
Specialist ships are only protected on their respective nodes (D'Vor on Latinum, Discovery on Mycellium, Botany Bay on Data, Meridian on Isogen, Feesha on Concentrated Latinum, Voyager on Anomaly Samples etc.) any other miner on specialist nodes is free to clear without warning if no free mines.
Evidence that an attack is compliant to RoE must be provided upon request.
Default Mining rules: (2/3)
G4 and C-Lat in Warp 56+:
NLNS: Applies
Warning time: None -- Zero mine
G5 & G6 in Warp 185+:
NLNS: Applies
Warning time: 10 minutes -- Zero Mine
G4 ship requirements
Protected ship:
A single Nova, G5, G4 faction miner, T8 horizon, or G3 faction miner level 20 and above per player per system as long as:
The miner mentioned above must be crewed with a mining officer that is actively boosting the speed of the resource being mined, whereas the below deck abilities does not count per the crew requirements.
G5 ship requirements
Protected ship:
A single Nova, G5, G4 faction miner, or a G3 faction miner level 40 and above per player per system as long as:
The miner mentioned above must be crewed with a mining officer that is actively boosting the speed of the resource being mined, whereas the below deck abilities does not count per the crew requirements.
G6 ship requirements
Protected ship:
A single Selkie or G6 faction miner per player per system as long as:
The miner mentioned above must be crewed with a mining officer that is actively boosting the speed of the resource being mined, whereas the below deck abilities does not count per the crew requirements.
For G4, G5 and G6 nodes:
One miner per system per person in case there are no free mines.
Default Mining rules: (3/3)
Token systems:
Protected ship:
A single D'Vor on latinum node per player per system.
A single horizon, faction miner, Nova or Selkie on a non-latinum node per player per system. G6 miner requirements apply to token G6.
NLNS: Does not apply, overflow is protected while actively mining.
Warning time: 10 minutes -- Zero Mine / Full cargo
Open space hits ok. The following exceptions are protected:
All ships in Xindi space
All ships in Freebooter space
All ships in Gorn space
Vidar in Borg space
Franklin in Swarm space
Stella in Exchange space
Mantis in actian space
Monaveen in Monaveen space
Reliant in Augment Exile space
Etc... (For example other specialty ships in their respective systems)
Rules for Armadas and damaged armadas
All Solo and Group armada participants are protected from being shot and/or debuffed.
Launching an already set armada and then speeding up the countdown timer to kill it before the alliance whom was first to set the armada, is considered as stealing and is not allowed.
Damaged Armadas anywhere (that your alliance did not fail): A minimum of 5 min wait time from when the damaged armada was found.
That is ridiculously complex in my opinion
God help that server if it ever merged with my server. We'd slaughter them over those rules
Roe needs to be simple or people wonāt follow/understand it.
Too many muppets on our server, if we make it short people always try to go "well this specific circumstance wasn't explicitly mentioned"
My server has some simple rules
0 node = killed, OPCL = killed, idle warships= killed. Token space = OPCL is protected, but 0 node killed. Idle hostile farming = protected unless OPCL.
And no one is going to read a freaking BOOK just to know was is legal to hit or not.
While in short it should bown to "speciality ships are protected, NLNS, use appropriate miners, token space is protected"
so best to say, pve and farm no killing, that's the easiest
stopped reading when i saw the whole thing while looking at it š¤£
To be honest, if I were on that server, and someone suggested that list, I'd probably follow them around and kill them repeatedly
Complicated ROEs are for snowflakes.
OPC = free game unless Token system. There simplest ROE ever
We've had worse suggestion, but they didn't get through. I don't mind some more concrete roe to keep work off of the roe officers when it comes to grey zones, but that's just too much
My server actually completely abolished server wide roe 5 years ago. So each alliance has its own which usually is identical to the others, but war breaks out now and then over subtle differences
i feel like US servers are less diplomatic in general, so doesn't surprise me
My server used to be very diplomatic. I actually led a council of alliances that enforced ROE for the first year our server was. But then a bunch of gigantic whales got on the server and just obliterated that alliance
usually eu whales do kind of follow roe, because most don't see the point in killing stuff for fun
In essence it's short, we just needed to elaborate because people went "derp, we dun know what a speciality ship is", "what is a mining ship?",....
Unfortunately my server has a few people (about 5) that feel the opposite. They just love going around killing things even if they get no benefit from it. They are obsessed with the PWD leaderboard which gives you absolutely nothing for being number one
They are kos, but they don't care because they pay to win everything
yeah if you're strong enough you can do what you want. dead ships won't bother you anymore
trolled, people derped intentionally... derping their station and ships for a few weeks helps
Luckily they aren't the top top people on my server. So they get killed enough, but not enough to where it harms their gameplay because they just open their wallet
Sadly those muppets mainly drop their pants during incursions
war and kos, leave station just kill everything you see
Question about the new hunters in token space.
They work the same as normal hunters right, being if someone else kills them, they stop spawning for you?
As my miner was just killed by a hunter, in a system which i have been mining in for 3 days
did you reset the node?
7M Cargo
that doesn't answer the question, did you reset the node just before that?
or kill any autotails somewhere else?
Agree with majority opinion.
Server currently follows RoE (majority of it), is several years old, and the more complicated it is the more annoying it is which makes people who are often reasonable when things are given binary choices loose their collective stuffing pretty quickly.
The worst part honestly is the crewing section .
Crewing should never, ever matter, especially with the new away teams missions, plus all the token space and mining that happens.
Plus why should anyone police how quickly someone mines, outside of ship specific nodes.
it says in the bottom corner, i was killed 4 hours ago, i cant remember when i last reset the node, but yes, anytime i get a notifaction to say its done, i hop on a reset.
and, no, no auto gridning today
Resetting the node, doesn't reset the hunter, My hunter was frozen.
this happened to at least two other people on my server, both of them reset the node just before that, one of them killed a frozen tail in yarda too
so if it's not one of those things, it may be random or have another cause
That's a legacy part we're talking about scrapping, it dates back from the days before away teams and when officers mattered more
What do you have bd? I just canāt manage a 62 in 1 round
The goal was to load damage onto shields and kill the target in r1 gun1. Stretching the fight tended to make me lose more. Metreon and Chrono.
wok mccoy and tom paris seems like overkill, if you're not at 100% shield bypass then wok scotty might be better
I wish it was overkill, but it's not enough. I tested a variant today, triple mitigation officers with sspock, that could hit the cap.
3 officers for mitigation sounds like a waste though, I agree. Some PM crew might be better right off the bat.
mbenga captain ftw
Maybe pelia, sounds interesting.
what about someone like chang to delay their weapons
i thought you quit m8
I only quit some things, but I didnāt quit STFC
Just reset 5 miners all in different system and one of them just got attacked by a hunter.
hmmmm
didn't have time to do the recall glitch?
You shouldnt have to once its frozen already, this is a new thing
Thanks, I get the logic, I have similar crew. How do you manage the crit chance? Cerritos boost?
That's not buffed.
that seems to be the issue then
Always go to round 2 even on the 62s
Hugh is a ramping officer, he's not part of the strategy since he has no value on r1g1.
try sam kirk instead of GG maybe
If you can, another dps officer to bridge the shortage. Do you have a battle report ss?
and quasi suder or etroi below instead of hugh
#ā-official-announcements message
This doesn't apply to ship parts, I bet
where are your crits?
FT/CT?
Metreon and deflector
Good question š
I usually rely on hugh for those
Fc lorca- lorcas strike
Fc sloane- hostile stakeout
Fc Khan- Inferior adversaries
Fc kirk- Khan!!!
also level up your cascade and do some research if possible
I have researched maxed up to g5, progressing through g6 but i donāt think any of them gives more crit
also upgrade the orb of the emissary
if you have the crit chance research max and all of those things levelled you get 100% without hugh
I grinding 86m loot for this garbage?
works amazingly good at new hostiles for some reason
Seska keeps your shield recharged
Only works well if you are losing shield
Sounds like a good plan since these deplete shields fast.
Iāll see how high can push them with what I have, I have been going slowly through as Iām fully f2p
Those are f2p boosts.
Yes, ... 220 if you want a triple
most of that is a slow drip through vindi/waves/Incursios, but f2p stuff
only khan is a hard grind atm
That was my triple
They were promoted.. that is scopely's way
promote the incompetent!
Honestly I think it's pretty fun, could use some tuning though
the IMS are completely unrealistic
need to be reduced by at least 80%
or directives x5
oops this doesn't work on Cube š¦
What do you mean, I'm sure nearly all....well surely a large majority... No? Well most...a good part? Try again you say?...a few? Oh no server is close at all? Certainly that's the players fault /s
it's lower g6, i think 61-65
it also doesn't help they deleted all the epics except low level ones
which are worth 4 points
but really it should be like 1 point for using a rare directive, 10 points for killing a rare, 4 points for using epic dirs, 40 points for killing an epic
Eh without that it wasn't happening, this is just a worse version of the sarris event which is nearly impressive in its own right.
I need to farm more sigma speeds š
Mirror universe is calling....
even if you do finish the event- for the effort required the group rewards are trash
the actual armada pulls themselves are decent
but the server rewards are meh
30 whole building parts for 7500 currency!1!one
the new epic shards I guess are half decent
I wonder how they'll manage to make this arc even worse next month
Well, they could always pull a WOK and double the requirements. š¤£
They already quadrupled the requirement here..
Nah that's boring, I was thinking more along the lines of perhaps tying meeting IMS to being able to finish the battlepass
Aaagh!... oh that might require new code, so it won't happen.
Someone's about to get promoted to arc runner
They don't care about new code. They wont even test it first. Just leave it in broken or not
Nah part of the innovative living universe, as a side effect it will delete the battlepass but that'll get fixed....at some point....
They'd have to write it though, I don't think there's anywhere to copy it from.
Expect in a month or two that all new officer shards in battlepasses will be exchanged to Officer Depot tokens in order to better paywall officers
Wouldn't require new code, just make battlepass points part of the IMS rewards so if you don't finish it you can't finish the pass
I'm trying to convince any employees that the idea isn't worth their effort. š¤£
Perhaps if a server fails to finish a second invasion in a row the Hurak also conquer territory space so all alliances lose their territory buffs....
They'll do this if they actually want to kill the game completely
-looks at the past few arcs- would you be surprised? I'll be nice though and say that getting the battlepass won't be tied to the IMS, instead it'll just be tied to the engage event so you will need to finish all possible tasks to get the points
Is there any servers that actually completed this garbage new arc IMS's?
None are even close
Thats what I figured we came to a standstill when we realized we needed 13.5k entities killed š¤£
And keep in mind that even if somehow that did happen I doubt there'd be enough refines left to finish stage 4
At this point I'm almost hoping (though it would be a damn poor choice) that scopely intended us to fail
I am mainly concerned about the unfinishable mission now stuck in my log
Archive is your friend
Yeah but deep down you know its still there š¤£
If it becomes a problem, Scopely will autocomplete it for us.
Am i missing something with the new refineries or is it just basically a second artifact gallery?
The transogen one? Yeah, allows you to speed through a bunch of artifacts + the new exocomps
3rd type of artifact second gallery
And the FKR jump drives
That's basically all it is with a few other minor things. It's pretty underwhelming
Idk if I can consider it a gallery second refinery.. I guess
That's why I've not been working hard to mine the new stuff
Well, the nice thing is that it's not as RNG based on a lot of that stuff.
what is the daily drip for this?
Its in that new refinery under rare artifacts
Yes
16/day for moderate cost, 32/day for instant rare transogen shortage
Oooh or how about this fun idea seeing how they love F2P players: You can only get shards for next months speciality ship if your server finishes stage 4 and only until the next invasion where you need to win again or you can't pull shards again. Bonus points if failing the invasion also shuts down the new ships refinery to motivate the paying players too.
No, it unlocks something
we will see soon i guess
call me spoiled but 50% extra doesnt sound so impactful anymore at this point... its nice yeah, but no longer THE thing ^^
add cascade to that and i say wow again ^^
Its honestly one of the biggest problems with the arc; the rewards just aren't very good. Even if they fix all of the glaring issues, this would STILL be very meh. 50% Isolytic? That's a tier 1 though, right? So maybe like 150% at max? Oh, no.... its 5% at tier 1 lol.
"Wer den Cent nicht ehrt, ist den Euro nicht wert"
lets not talk about money as this is a topic that shouldnt be discussed here.
It would also hold a lot more interest for those catching up, if all the good ones worth catching up on weren't all piled into the rare batch. At least half of the old ones in the rare bucket should've been made uncommon, to let people actually pull them. Who's going to pull an old artifact when the only sourcing for the new ones need all the rare you get...
I was hoping for emergency rations this arc
i dont think they even are able to source more than the usual 1200 rations... and this amount isnt nearly enought for the show they pulled
All the feedback I have given has gone into their scrap bin... Then hammy wanted me to type up real feedback ... Ya, okay
they redifined murphys law and managed to let things go wrong they didnt even need to touch
<@&509690795536941056> why is mirror uhura not in the event store and still locked behind the arena nightmare, I will never recruit her if she does not become available outside of the still birth of arenas!
to give you a reason for Arenas would be my guess
No one is finishing stage 4
Me either
they took something bad, and some how made it worse, and sold it to us as a 6 month arc.
whats even more messed up is when you watch the video and how happy those devs were to introduce this dogturd to us
Sounds like we get a refinery that will actually refine! Probably just until one of the programmers paste a fix of some kind and break it.
I havenāt been paying enough attention specifically to the crit chance skills, maxed the ones on Lorca, Sloan and Kirk and now I manage fine in round 1, thank you and @humble orbit
Why do the not have a weekend community manager
I donāt think it pays good enough. Like they pay their programming team.
Thatās what I believe happened to a certain list that went missing recently
Need a little help in the event planning team, these milestones are a little erm ridiculous
I think they are all got sacked or went on holiday
That would excuse the state of this event at least š
Happy France day French
Or they are all working on the line or the cube (look them up they mad expensive and almost unnecessary
)
𤣠don't worry we have to do it 2 more times this arc š¤·
Or not do it 2 more times this arc should I say
OH MAN! We're 2/3rds of the way to the first reward tier!
I wanna know who the designer was.
You still have 16 hours plenty of time š
I want to know who needs publically ridiculed XD
What is up with milestone 6 of the battlepass
!!
At 60 I get 6* uncommon ship parts for everything except interceptors
finally it wont last long
it goes fast with G5 ships
My member at 57 (started arc at 56) got a little chunk of 6* interceptor parts as well as some 5* parts
It was a mistake
G3 got G4 and G4 got g5
Can't post tickets here. They will remove the screenshot
Where am I supposed to send it where they won't sweep it under the rug again
To a mod in pm when they ask for it š
Really all they will ask for is the ticket number
I have to wait for a mod to ask me to solve a problem their horrible support team member caused?
Unfortunately, yes
Man getting help around here is more of a job than just doing without smh
My field trainings have been broken for roughly 7 or 8 months with countless tickets sent in for months
This discord not really designed for help for tickets, but mods or cm's can help
It's their official discord
I know.. I get it
Other than the support bot it's the only other place I've been able to get a hold of anyone for stuff
I tried emailing the email they have for their support and that was even less helpful than handing someone without hands a pair of gloves š¤¦
Did you use your scopely ID or your dads?
Cause they will look at that instead of the gamer tag.
Whats āGold Rushā?
Why not? Money is the reason for the existence of this slot machine, lol.
not meaning an surface level discussion...
i said that after he mentioned "not worth the euro" but in a sense it IS worthless xD
Surely being stingy will increase engagement
New content and setting an absolute bonkers price for hostile grinding to directives and you don't even guarantee the payout of directives? Cool.
My dad's it wasn't my ticket sent in I just helped him put the ticket in
If the game errors before it logs the transaction, they will never see proof and you're SOL
Nothing here has any monetary or physical value whatsoever, for sure.
Back to Diabloā¦have fun!
wonder where i could find rare at
ops 54
Five, E-Pic, Rachel, a few others. Any loot officers that don't specify specific loot
or your mean rare splicers?
55-60 exiles
Corvus will get there I am sure, but my alliance mate was hitting 56 with a g5 epic 𤷠her is tier 7ish I think
hmm
pretty sure they designed the systems around the ship levels
52 is probably low end G6 uncommon and 54 is probably a tier 6 ish one
should have rare on 52+
so a tier 4 corvus should hit?
maybe.. idk
3
I was already ops 67 when this arc dropped
almost 70
speedups i take it to make it down that low lo.
Yeah that is going to slow simmer a long while
No just alliance helps
Yeah not happening
Going to catch my docks and turrets up while that slow simmers
kinda speedups are those lol
Sigma
hmm
61+
yeah good im 53
so they introduce you to sigma easily.. They all are 1day buildings till about ops 64
ops is an exception of course
wonder what u gonna do when ur 70 and missions done
what does that 70 mission even do?
Or do you mean my goal to hit 70?
Ha, till next month...
G7 is coming soonish.. Even if you don't think so
If I am getting there with only $20 passes.. Yes, it is coming soon
They just released a legendary G6 ship...
I forget is Gold Rush SMS4 or IMS4?
IMS 4
I doubt many server got there since SMS 3 was armadas and IMS 3 wasn't lined up
oh that's not getting done any time soon then
no servers have made it to IMS4 or even close
my server was #1 last I looked and not even 25% of the way done with IMS3
also the SMS3 and IMS3 wasn't even the problem they made the points way too high
and the epics are despawned which are worth 4 points
but you have to basically spend $$$ for epic dirs is their gameplan apparently
$100 = 12 epics = 48 IMS points
the event is literally impossible to complete with rares
IMS is more than just your server I think
nope
IMS is your server only
https://stfc.pro/flashpoint here's the leaderboard, the EU server passed us again but 701 still in #2
Top server: Tucker (219.55 pts). Updated: Mon Jul 14 2025 00:18:13 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time).
nobody has finished even 25% of the 3rd IMS
and since the 4th IMS likely needs 2 days worth of refines to finish you need like 24+ hours left to finish it probably
hahahahahahahahahaha
I'm still expecting comp for this waste of time 3dirs was nothing
That is funny as heck to me.. Such a successful event for scopely setting the bar well above and beyond what could be done
maybe give like the top3 servers the reward they would've gotten for finishing or even the top10
but yeah the IMS goals need to be decreased by at least 80%
Yep.
Canāt speak for other servers, but for my serverā¦that plan is not working, lol. Itās just making a lot of people tune it out completely.
Arena 2.0.
I mean I am doing the SMS at least and the single pulls on the rare armadas
but I've just completely tuned out the IMS
they broke epic armadas when they 'fixed' rares now there are only the lowest level epics
so g5 and g6 players can't get loot for the epic pull
its broke why all of the severs stopped doing them
Is there an alternate way to get help for a stuck ship? Iāve been waiting 15 hours now.
yup me too lol but would like a refund for the broken game
if other players can see it, have them kill it
I had a glitch where mine was in a system but couldn't move or warp
someone killing the ship fixed it
if it's stuck in warp though nope support has to fix... i've never had a ship perma stuck in warp tho restarting always fixes for me
The ships and officers required for hitting level appropriate armadas are too much
They canāt see it.
then no choice but to wait for ticket
Yeah. That sucks. I wanted to raid again tonight.
did they check both the system you were in and your station's system?
Itās been broken since launch. You still spent. This is on you, buddy, lolā¦you knew what you were buyingā¦
if they haven't done your ticket by then
can soemone point me to the right system with the new epic armadas in this arc?
They responded an hour after I put the help ticket in but I was asleep. Now I canāt get a hold of the guy that responded and it wonāt kick me over to a support agent that is actually on duty
If I had a new issue today, Iād be totally screwed. š
@flint ruindid not spend a penny lol
With how lucrative g4 economy has gotten its easier now than ever to get to g5 ftp
Getting to g6 is quite a different story
64 ftp right here. Itās easy to get to g6.
But with strict goals and the hindsight to look ahead instead of the moment it could probably be done by more than just the one guy who's 60+
I'm currently ops 60 and the mats coming in are insanely too slow for me to be ready for g6 but that was part of the stuff I set aside for later on my way from 53 to 56
an active alliance with no drama can get you to 70 fast
unfortunately not. not as fast as 50-60
just ignore the scopley stuff
Not on newer servers
And piggy backing off someone else's success isn't a reliable strategy
true
boop.. Finished this today
nice
I still have work to do myself. Good work
Mirror grinding for speed ups lol
Been getting a couple 15hrs in 68 FKR systems while I get the daily speedups
Those slowly add up
Isn't hero the final lock
Either way congrats rep is quite the grind
My 3 are all at dignitary
I bumped em up a lot with the dti claim for getting it's building to 60
Once you get to 61 you get an insane amount of g5 Mats in the Choice Rewards.
No reason not to go into g6. The only really painful thing about g6 is the lack of Sigma Speedups but if you can grind pretty high into the MU even those arenāt really an excuse not to make the jump.
Mats donāāt really hold my progress in G6 its a lack of Lat and Sigma Speedups that are holding me back.
Mats will become a problem when you actually start building ships that use Sigma etc. On top of that right now they have deliberately made the game much worse for people in the 60-64 ops range. Going into G6 now is just asking to get kicked in the nuts
Iām at 60ā¦sitting on a mountain of mats with no buildings left to push and research mostly done. Ship parts are what hold me backā¦need two more tiers on epic to make the jump.
That said, Iām unlikely to continue to 61. Thereās no real point.
Ohā¦Iām F2P.
Iām Ops 62 and about to be 63 next week and have had zero issues with Mats.
Again when you start building up your G6 warships and they suck you dry on sig trit it will be different
imo if you skip g6 unc mats wont be much issue till your g6 rare, rss as well. building it however all the way up to t9 for the cube will be where mat and trit issue comes in
You are in a good spot to where you can coast along comfortably for now. I mean the new ops 60 hostiles are 25b power.
Yeah I have Slipstream and have almost maxed out my Dādrexā¦.gonna skip the g6 Uncommons for now.
Scopely should have redesigned the G6 ships years ago to make them actually stand out. The fact they are as trash as they are is really silly
and now they are doing the rotarran all over again with Vengeance. Same type of insane firing patterns, same buffs can be used etc
Oh Iām already totally coasting, lol. Skipping tons of stuff - I donāt even look at new content until they give us the specialty ships for free. Collecting tokensā¦when I have enough to clear out all token mining twice a day for two monthsā¦Iāll drop alliance tag and rouge out the rest of my time.
Yeah well if Vengeance is a sign of things to come in g7 I think the g7 ships will be much better
its a follow up to fc khans skills i think
thats if they properly balance them. Rotarran should mean the G6 ships are amazing
also rip to any whale that went krencha lol. it became powercrept
31 trillion Iso Damage crit from a T15 Vengeance
whose? i wanna see it š
whats the power on a maxed vengence
thats maxed?
T15 of 18
Yeah itās a wicked shipā¦..has a wicked firing pattern, out DPRās a Krencha, and from what Iāve been told its better than a Max Cube at t3
what determines a good firing pattern
i dont think i actually understoof it before lol
shots per round
so whats a good no. of shots per round for g6 ship
can we do it?! YES WE CAN'T!
this is the "best" of the G6 epics
If you look at the chart its basically guaranteed to get 8 shots a round just off the Phasers
takes 5 rounds to match on the krencha
why would anyone build a krench when cube exists lol
Have to build them to get that cube nasty
Depends on what you're doing. A big, heavy, early shot like Quvsompek's was exploited with a freeman crew to kill ships in pvp before the other side could get a shot off.
The shot was so large, and amplified from freeman, that it was killing ships from a generation later.
ah yea quv was annoying against my corvus, didnt do much. needed sanctus to actually be able to kill it
If your ship takes awhile to get going, with no early shots, then you're going to take a lot of hull damage before you can finish them off even if you're bigger.
Hopefully more thought will be put into more balanced firing patterns going forward. I know they need some diversity but then you get issues like the Rotarran that punches way too high
scimitar might be good if it was able to use something like the tribunes ability
or at least thats what i think
yeah. I mean krencha takes 8 rounds of combat to equal the fire pattern of vengeance in 1 round. not even gonna point out what 8 rounds of vengeance looks like
maxed V vs maxed K, K prob dies in 5 or smt rounds with that much dmg
How long have you been ops 60
From what I have heard from people on the VIP Serverā¦ā¦Scopely realized the design of the g6 ships was bad and will hopefully rectify it with the g7 ships.
And also scrap g4 epics for parts
The ent A can nearly max an ent D in one go ship parts wise depending on your efficiency
it yours is rlly good it can max 2-3 with just parts. mats is another problem
And the iss jellyfish are a good free way to fuel the ent a to max
Thats the problem. People have known the G6 problem from Day 1 basically. They could have fixed it 2 years ago and had a balanced playing structure all this time.
i might build more g4 epics just to level my other stuff
