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thorn fjord
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Epic unlocks once you research Rare Hull, and it’s previous rare and uncommon researches

dull mason
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Don't do the Borg Solo's unless you have done the Borg TransLink research

solid kayak
last elk
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Anyone know where is the prime apex barrier In the store?

indigo tangle
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These Whale PvP events are absolute trash:

queen jolt
indigo tangle
wide steppe
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Pay to win scopely need money to spend on strippers and snow

indigo tangle
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No points for losing, though!

dull mason
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IS Scopley is suffering from

Cashastrophe...
LoL 🀣

dry valve
dull mason
mortal elk
thorn fjord
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It is if you get shot enough

mortal elk
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we've been doing 50 every day this month 😐

pine phoenix
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Why it's called heroic not quantum?
Get the job correct scopley

mortal elk
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(I'm bored too)

indigo tangle
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or just carte-blanche for griefers, in general.

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It's bad design, and it needs to be called out.

mortal elk
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if they're "griefers" you were being shot anyway

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if they aren't, then your ROE probably covers you...

pine phoenix
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Any server still fall for the dumb pvp scopley think it will sell packs?

dry valve
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Feed them kills somewhere else and sneak into the MU

mortal elk
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dunno, I was unshielded all night and didn't even get a speculative tap... 162 seem pretty sleepy now 🀣

delicate briar
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Wanted to ask, how do I get my hands on the multipurpose exocomp? as some people in my alliance have this and their exocomp factory is lower lvl than mine

delicate briar
delicate sun
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Scopes you need to make certain area in mirror universe pvp system . Pve is no go. Getting destroyed before I reach jump point

delicate briar
queen jolt
vale spoke
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The gorn BP event should be start today right ?

dry valve
# queen jolt

Way quicker than me, you must be a professional πŸ˜†πŸ––πŸ»

warm pivot
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is there a system in place that prevents players from opening up new alliances every hour to avoid getting marked?
if not than please DO! it is a hussle to think it is a neutral just to see the same rogue with yet another new tag every day.
making the whole marking system unneccesary in the first place

broken salmon
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Had this error a few times now

warm pivot
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@queen jolt

queen jolt
broken salmon
last elk
proven bolt
solid kayak
proven bolt
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Gorn at second reset, lol

warm pivot
vale spoke
proven bolt
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Half an hour. Should start when Cerritos events end

queen jolt
solid kayak
vale spoke
broken salmon
solid kayak
cyan nimbus
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When does the free to play Syndicate event begin for this month?

silver parcel
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🀣

cyan nimbus
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I always buy my battle pass after it starts...

dull mason
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Equal the playing field for Free two play player's, and release G Dock and H Docks

dusky cove
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To Whom It May Concern,

It is with boundless enthusiasm and absolutely no hint of sarcasm that I, a humble Ferengi, present this performance review of the Star Trek Fleet Command arc designers. The team's recent conclave to design the June Mirror Universe arc was nothing short of a tour de force in the annals of game development. Gather 'round, fellow Ferengi, and marvel at the sheer audacity and brilliance displayed in that hallowed meeting room.

The agenda was as clear as a Romulan cloaking device malfunction: address the incessant player feedback that harped on about the game being "player-unfriendly," "technical issues galore," and an overt focus on prying Latinum from players' wallets. Naturally, our visionary designers took this criticism and decided the only way forward was to dial all those issues up to eleven. Ingenious!

First on the list was the notorious "player-unfriendly" feedback. Our designers, in their infinite wisdom, concluded that players have had it too easy. The new June arc proudly ups the ante with even more soul-crushing grind. Players will now need to invest not 100, not 200, but an estimated 500 hours just to achieve the slightest semblance of progress. Truly, this will help weed out the faint-hearted, leaving only the most dedicated (or masochistic) players to bask in the glory of their accomplishments.

Next, the "technical issues." Ah, the charming bugs and glitches that make the game so... unpredictable. The design team, ever mindful of players' love for a bit of chaos, has ensured the June arc is rife with fresh, new bugs. Imagine the delight of players when their game crashes just as they’re about to complete a mission, or when rewards vanish into the ether. Such delightful unpredictability adds a thrilling layer to the gaming experience, reminiscent of a Ferengi attempting to outwit a Vulcan in a business deal.

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Monetization, the jewel in the crown of any Ferengi-approved enterprise, was given particular attention. Instead of reducing the reliance on microtransactions, the designers decided to expand it. Introducing a suite of new, essential items at exorbitant prices was pure genius. Clearly, only those who truly value their gaming experience (and have coffers deeper than the Grand Nagus himself) will fully appreciate this.

But wait, there's more! The pièce de résistance of the June Mirror Universe arc is the introduction of an astonishing array of new currencies. So many, in fact, that even the Grand Nagus would struggle to keep track of his Latinum amidst this bewildering assortment. Players can now spend hours deciphering which currency is needed for which item, ensuring a gameplay experience that is as complex as it is frustrating. Nothing says "player engagement" like a convoluted web of currencies, right?

The end result is a masterclass in how to ignore player feedback. By combining all the most hated aspects of previous months into one seamless, infuriating package, our designers have crafted an arc that will be remembered for ages. It's a bold statement, a clear message to players: "We hear you, and we choose to do the exact opposite!"

In conclusion, a standing ovation to our arc designers is in order. Their ability to transform criticism into an even more aggravating and costly gaming experience is nothing short of miraculous. We eagerly await the avalanche of praise and accolades from our dear players. Or perhaps, more realistically, we'll see just how much frustration the player base can endure before defecting to the Klingon Empire.

With Ferengi regards,

Grodnog, Third Tier Profit Analyst

dusky cove
split linden
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Is there a minimum level for an alliance member to get the Terrirotry season rewards

mortal elk
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Was gonna say... kudos for getting that out, and out first time without having to tweak it for the automod 🀣

indigo tangle
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What I'm saying is, it would not be anywhere near as badly designed, if, like in previous events, there was a PvP loss mechanic for equal points.

dusky cove
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the bad design is by design, not by accident. If it pushes peopel to frustration and spending it has achieved its goal

indigo tangle
fathom river
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My only critique of this is the use of "microtransaction". I think anything over $20 ceases to be "micro".

dusky cove
dusky cove
tough vapor
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<@&509690795536941056> Hey guys, when it comes to QoL, wouldn't it be great to implement the new advanced officer filter to the crew selecting menu of ships? Let's say next month or the following one?

cyan nimbus
queen jolt
dull mason
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Apex is so boring..

earnest raven
split linden
dull mason
dusky cove
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my post isn't THAT long πŸ˜…

dull mason
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I've seen shorter short stories LoL πŸ˜‚

dry valve
dull mason
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My second is months from being maxed

dry valve
dry valve
dull mason
burnt briar
dull mason
tidal turtle
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Sent in a ticket on ship stuck in rift. Anyone know an ETA on these things?

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Its been like an hour

warm pivot
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just hope that theyΒ΄ll fix it before weekend, otherwise you gotta wait till monday

dusky cove
simple wadi
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maybe new attempt to fix some bugs tba soon

solemn plaza
tropic wadi
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@queen jolt What is scopley position/statement on the cheating and data theft on server 17 by the alliance EMC?

dusky cove
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hmm the response time seems to be fairly good in my experience, which did you use?

dusky cove
tropic wadi
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@dusky cove The files has been released with information about the entire server. I want scopley statement on it.

burnt briar
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where is this said file

dusky cove
solemn plaza
solemn plaza
tropic wadi
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@dusky cove Scopley is violating their own policy

sinful osprey
# burnt briar where is this said file

for those not in the know, what is this file, what does it do? Inquiring minds demand answer. Also where can I find the discord drama for this server?

tropic wadi
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@sinful osprey it has every players id and login information for the entire server which EMC said was given voluntarily

dusky cove
foggy lark
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Does the game work yet?

sinful osprey
dusky cove
night frigate
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Because they are all paying Scopelys wages

solemn plaza
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Prime Data security research pack incoming

burnt briar
sinful osprey
dusky cove
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There are some posts and video's on the DJZ discord which give a ton more info regarding the issue but I'd ather not spend the tim to dig them up atm

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the screenshot I posted is just one I quickly found from months ago

burnt briar
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along with the breach server not prime

dusky cove
mellow spoke
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good day all

tropic wadi
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Also they would log in to accounts and drop the shields so the alliance could raid them for resources then blame the shield failure on scopley

proven bolt
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Could they access or force payments?

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But yeah, seems you could win every slb event by logging them into something else or burning their hoarded mats, etc

tropic wadi
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@proven bolt I dont have that particular information

pine phoenix
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That prime I buy πŸ˜‚
Shield strip prime 99€
Anti shield strip 99€
In one week scopley getting rid of the pesty f2p player
Like me πŸ˜‚

mortal elk
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Can't log in just with the playerid, you need to persuade cs to relink your login to that id first, and CS are already aware of the issue so proving that the playerid is yours has a higher bar on that server specifically from what I've been told the last time this came up

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Their infosec is... Interesting... In places 😬

sinful osprey
tropic wadi
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@mortal elk I just want a statement from scopley on what punishment or position they have on it.

mortal elk
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Oh, my understanding is that the ids were sitting nekkid on the api at one point...

solemn plaza
pine phoenix
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No oficial statement
It not existing

solemn plaza
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Only way you'll get a statement is by throwing the big "S" word around, but that won't get you anywhere in here.

tropic wadi
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@solemn plaza So scopley by their own TOS is in violation

pine phoenix
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Multi billion companies never admit anything like that
Maybe like FB the US Congress forces them

solemn plaza
dusky cove
tropic wadi
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@solemn plaza I am just trying to get a statement from scopley..I started here..I have other avenues to go thru..At least someone from scopley will see this and maybe get some sort of information..But thank you i will try the other communication sources.

tidal turtle
solemn plaza
# tropic wadi <@990715427602722936> I am just trying to get a statement from scopley..I starte...

No one from Scopely that's allowed to speak on behalf of scopely is going to see any of this.
The MODS/CMS/Devs will maybe see it but they can't do anything about it, and they're not allowed to speak on behalf of the whole company, the CMs get told what they can and can't say by someone else who's in the same position etc etc.

You're going to have to aim alot higher in the food chain to actually get any form of response from scopely, and even then I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you have the time and means to take things to the next step (Big "S" word)

tropic wadi
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@solemn plaza I think i said what i said as a final statement..I didnt know you required a response.

dusky cove
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A small side question, any idea if there'll be some pride events this month :)?

civic geyser
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🧐

marble ingot
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Thanks for changing the prereqs after having to trade in uncommon to get there

dusky cove
serene drum
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@heady moon what update I don't see any update in store..

proud verge
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Wondering the same thing

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Does he just mean restart and there is no downloadable update and it's just a cache refresh?

fierce fossil
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uhm can we have our dust back we used to get there? πŸ˜„

proud verge
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Seems just to be a restart

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Because the uncommons are now available

heady moon
proud verge
heady moon
proud verge
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I assume the thinking emoji means you don't know? Shruge

serene drum
proud verge
simple wadi
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Blablabla here some updates things still broke but hey new and updates packs to rescue

proud verge
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Bad wording, I think he just means restart to clear cache so you see the updated stuff

subtle vortex
# heady moon Glad we could get that change too.

Not sure you've understood his point. Some of us spent uncommon dust to trade down to common to get through the tree to the uncommon. That was unnecessary now you've opened up the tree. 🀦

wheat comet
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Yeah great change but messed over thousands of players and mats. Comp incoming or riots haha

verbal wraith
frank pike
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Players found a small benefit from trading down uncommon for now since that part of the tree was so far away for people looking at maximizing roi first, Scopely saw it, changed gears to punish those people by leaving them with a FOMO moment because now they are out of or low on uc dust.

fast grove
silver parcel
silver parcel
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That's the theme of this arc.

high crow
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@heady moon Ob any update on ascended keys?

frank pike
solemn plaza
heady moon
high crow
heady moon
pine phoenix
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🀣🀣🀣🀣
Can't add important emoji to announcement

solemn plaza
heady moon
solemn plaza
silver parcel
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When life gives you lemons, find someone whose life gives them vodka and have a party.

heady moon
solemn plaza
fast grove
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Yeah these mirror research tree changes are some bull crap

pine phoenix
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Where's comp chest ?

foggy lark
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When life gives you lemons... squeeze them into the eyes of the people that gave them to you until they give you the oranges you asked for in the first place...

fast grove
pine phoenix
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So in the pockets of CC πŸ˜‚

proven bolt
fast grove
solemn plaza
dull mason
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Car crash of an Arc πŸ’₯πŸ’₯

solemn plaza
fast grove
tough vapor
silver parcel
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I have been hit by a parked car before. It came out of no where.

jolly portal
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<@&509690795536941056> isnΒ΄t it time again to enable new officers via transport patterns? or is the new business model only pay more?

solemn plaza
woeful remnant
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wasnt warroom supposed to start 1 day ago?

silver parcel
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post poned

thorn slate
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war room is DoA... sadly

wheat comet
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Anyone know why multiphasic is hardly on things now?

silver parcel
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what do you mean?

thorn slate
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multiphasics are on everything, but if you buy from webstore or pc only...

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dont buy through apple or google devices... or your not getting em

wheat comet
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Ahhhhhhhhhh

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Well good to know going forward

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Thanks moose

heady moon
solemn plaza
solemn plaza
burnt briar
solemn plaza
pine phoenix
burnt briar
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i was answering his answer thru ur answer lol

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πŸ˜‚

solemn plaza
burnt briar
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i was being impossible lol

dusky cove
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the MU research change is nice though focusing on the hostil loot research still seems a good priority

solemn plaza
burnt briar
solemn plaza
solemn plaza
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Do they still make this.
I remember watching this as a kid lol

burnt briar
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im having canes for lunch on the boss lol

silver parcel
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Never heard of it, but want it

burnt briar
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its stupid fire

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flambe

burnt briar
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only place w/ better strips is publix

pine phoenix
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Without Scooby-Doo and totally woke

burnt briar
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its the sauce everybody goes for but i dont fw glorified mayonaisse

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the strips are fire w/o it

solid kayak
burnt briar
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a try is an unsuccessful attempt

burnt briar
simple wadi
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Result is same πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

burnt briar
flint ruin
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Is this arc almost over yet…? πŸ₯±

thorn slate
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Cant wait for part 2!

heady moon
burnt briar
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see even baby yoda be eatin canes

burnt briar
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o my bad its been that long of a drag out

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scopley created a time machine w/ this new arc lol

silver parcel
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Part 2 is the credit card bill beating us over the head

pine phoenix
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So excited
Can't wait to see part 2

burnt briar
thorn slate
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I feel like im the only one who likes this arc

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lol

burnt briar
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i got 20 invested in the bp thats it

pine phoenix
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In part 2 you need ad credit card info on loading screen

silver parcel
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I like the concept, the implimentation leaves a lot to be desired.

burnt briar
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πŸ˜‚

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isnt that the server w/ the crazy long roe thats posted online somewhere

thorn slate
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we have no server roe

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Each alliance has their own roe

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on another note.... mirror universe chars.... soo hope we get a mirror geordie from the comics

silver parcel
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Okay, that's cool

thorn slate
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or mirror troi...

silver parcel
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Wasn't impressed with the other ones

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But that one, /chefs kiss

burnt briar
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i bet @heady moon planned it to be as such

thorn slate
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theres some more... how about mirror wesley

silver parcel
thorn slate
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it'll be riker though... we know it'll be riker...

burnt briar
heady moon
burnt briar
silver parcel
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i can't remember, were there any other officers in the missions with animated portraits? they're the ones that get officers

solemn plaza
pine phoenix
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This arc made me on day one want to read this comics
Then this arc made me not care about this comics on same day

thorn slate
burnt briar
solemn plaza
dry valve
burnt briar
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this is oh after he took this position

dry valve
spare galleon
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Has anyone found a way to activate the mirror loot exo yet, or where to find it?

solemn plaza
spare galleon
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Well I'm certain I got one, although I'm obviously questioning that now. But I got two separate exos in the chest which surely means I got one of each (a mining one and a loot one) - but no sign of it! Also pretty sure one of them said 400% loot

flint ruin
silver parcel
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woo, 1200 dolamide, what prime to get

rose bluff
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my ship Stuck on warp in mirror-universe

solemn plaza
tidal turtle
# rose bluff

My ship was stuck coming from Archer. Got it back recently. Dont know if they have issue with Deneb or not. Just wondering now if I can get my Voucher refunded.

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Send in a CS ticket

dusky cove
solemn plaza
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To spend dust on research or to wait and see if OH comes back with anything.....

dry valve
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Sprinkle some magic dust on folks crit damage, efficiency smiciency

robust vigil
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hi

gray pawn
solid kayak
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dont begin what cant be stahped

solemn plaza
tough laurel
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This annoy alot. max 50 times per click. Cost me around an hour with swipe, click, swipe, click to donate my allianc to next Level. That shoult be removed. When i will donate 10k times than they should let me donate 10k times with one click. No Idea to who i should pass this...

strong nacelle
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@heady moon 8th time today the game locks up here…… Might be time to work on some β€œQuality”. If that word is foreign to the dev team I’d be happy to provide a link to the definition.

heady moon
little violet
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Its so fun wasting 4 minutesTraveling through the mirror verse....

silver parcel
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without a premium, there's like 14-15 minutes left on the clock by the time i get to the 60

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ridiculous that i have to spend 300 uncommon and like 500 common to get there

little violet
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Idk if I can take a 60

silver parcel
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3b power or so

little violet
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10b power

subtle vortex
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The travel system of the MU is the worst part of the arc (worse than the quantum events - hear me out) we will have to deal with that indefinitely. The events this arc will hopefully be consigned to this arc and history

dry valve
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I like sneaking about

little violet
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Why announce an eviscerator skin and not release it..

silver parcel
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Time needs to reset with each rift, they need to drop the cooldown on the vouchers to 22 hours

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it is released

bitter temple
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I too like to jump skip rifts and run, I like the mirror

silver parcel
little violet
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How bout making premium a guaranteed drop

solemn plaza
little violet
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Ive not pulled one premium ticket ever

warm pivot
little violet
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Not to me, but if they think so 🀷

warm pivot
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ata refresh boosters was similar

dull mason
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Any further clarification on why 115 had a bye bye week.
No incursion
And didn't even get to use, claim
Loot Exocomp.❔❔❔

silver parcel
little violet
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I have not got one loot exo from the refinery either

warm pivot
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maybe server merge?

little violet
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I got 10k common Keys tho .... Weeeeeeee

silver parcel
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If the next rotation had you up against a server that recently merged, they probably gave you a both a bye

tough laurel
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its coz they cant find a server who match i think

little violet
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#warpgate

silver parcel
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They need to work on their matchups

dull mason
silver parcel
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because the last couple have been ridiculous

warm pivot
little violet
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Loot crew on MU hostiles is garbage for loot..

dull mason
warm pivot
thorn slate
tough laurel
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Our highest Player is OPs 67 and they matched us pre last run with a server who has 3x max cubes with over 5bil power. this three ships beat alone our whole server

little violet
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@heady moon I have no eviscerator skin in m y store

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Nvm I see it now.. Of course $99 πŸ˜•

bitter temple
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nah nah, my friend. special price for you!

little violet
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$299.99?

tough laurel
bitter temple
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you a friend! i'll take 200 off, just for you

little violet
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THree easy payments... Of $499.99

fleet inlet
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Hey Guys, sorry for newb question - I have this icon - when I click it it takes me to the "offers" but i can't find anything to claim?

little violet
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Lol they got ya to buy the pack and not know how to claim lol

fleet inlet
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Aha! it didn't have the icon for something available until after I clicked that πŸ™‚ Thank you

tepid lotus
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Go to the Resources tab

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It's going to be one of the June Daily Reward packs

tough laurel
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Maybe its a free run. I had a 400 days brake. After i camed back to game ive got a free monthly pass

little violet
solemn plaza
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That moment you realize you have more points in the SLB than everyone else in the SLB combined πŸ‘€πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‡

little violet
warm pivot
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i planned on researching the pvp barrier today, but then i got the chance to not waste any more common dust, so i said, screw this one event ^^

solemn plaza
heavy ermine
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@heady moon Hi OH! I have a player in my alliance who was ops 39, upgraded to 40 for the Shattered Stations event, and then the event disappeared. He submitted a ticket, but I would think the event should have stayed if he had scored in it. I just wanted to make you aware if you were not already.

warm pivot
lethal coral
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Man I read the announcement and got all excited cause I'd be able to unlock more stuff but nothing changed πŸ™ƒ guess it only went up to where I already was at , just my luck πŸ˜†

heavy ermine
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I am just glad they didn't tempt me with that event at ops 56 LOL

warm pivot
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you got the option to waste materials on cube xD

solemn plaza
heavy ermine
indigo rain
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Hey! How about separated event brackets for G6 and G5, that would be nice.

silver parcel
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Hey, how about you don't cross post

indigo rain
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Jerks.

warm pivot
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dont know if that counts as cross posting, isnt it already mentioned everywhere by now? ^^

solemn plaza
indigo rain
hot canyon
boreal oasis
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need more minnows in the field of play

heady moon
solemn plaza
solemn plaza
hot canyon
solemn plaza
tough laurel
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Many active ppls here. Its 2.50am here. let me guess yall from US Server? 🀣

hot canyon
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No reason, at all, a handful of g6 players are getting 160 million points requiring me to spend, 1.6 mill g5 to place. That's just frigging stupid

tough laurel
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Hahaha European Server here. to be exactly Germany

little violet
tough laurel
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So i am not the only Nightactive here 🀣

dull mason
dull mason
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I can't remember what it tastes like 🀣

tough laurel
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it taste yummy 🀣

rich lion
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No self respecting German should lower themselves to posting USA beer gifs

tough laurel
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cant find german beer ones 🀣

rich lion
solemn plaza
tough laurel
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Thats not Germany. Thats Bavaria 🀣

solemn plaza
rich lion
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And if you clear your gutter that's what their coffee is like 🀣

tough laurel
silver parcel
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Oh this lag is just lovely.

solemn plaza
solemn plaza
silver parcel
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1st round in the wave, everyone was spinning in circles around their first target while the rest hit the station before they left combat

vital sand
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When they fix the game for PC, it's been over a week since every time I restart the game, and it is unstable even with good internet the game keeps giving connection problems, activating all notifications and leaving the settings in the general tab, as sound activates, deactivates the extended zoom, this is already becoming annoying and I already think it's a lack of respect towards the players, because to remove all the annoying notifications about new officers, new ships and everything else you lose almost 5 minutes, fix the bugs please

tepid lotus
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Yeah, the Wave Defense has been almost unplayable this week. I don't think I've gotten to 10 waves yet this week (lags out on everyone before getting near it).

exotic kraken
slim sierra
little violet
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been terrible for the last two day

robust coyote
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Why I can't see this channel from the listing and have to search for it and tagged under suggested channels ?

silver parcel
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browse channels

robust coyote
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Yeah jeez can't they make it easy to access instead of complicating it like the game πŸ˜†

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Thanks @silver parcel

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Scopely we thinks it's time to revise the 2k hostile in line with your newest addition of grinds since the 2k limit was introduced πŸ™

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#raisedailyhostilelimit

chilly cypress
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Zombie ship

earnest raven
mental gull
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Does only.pvp in the MU count for Apex barrier slb?

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Ya hostile limithas needed bumped up to 2500-3000?for awhile

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Someone let me know about the slb pls ^_^

silver parcel
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hostiles in the MU count if you got the research, pvp counts if you got the specific ship research, and hostiles outside the MU count if you got the prime

solemn plaza
full ruin
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Anyone hitting gorn and not getting its cargo?

silver parcel
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did you hit the 2k hostile limit

full ruin
#

My alliance said the same thing after I asked. I must have and not realize I did.

full ruin
silver parcel
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hour after daily goals

livid shell
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Lag

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What kind of internet connection do you have scopely ? 10Mbps ?? 🀬

full ruin
slow mica
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Lmao saw the caption and was like ain’t no one playing with that annoying ass sound and Music 🀣🀣🀣

tacit tundra
slow mica
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πŸ‘€πŸ€£πŸ«£

slim sierra
#

I spent way too many hours in that game

slow mica
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Lol

frigid owl
unkempt sundial
#

any idea when the next treasury might start, if they're sticking to the two a month schedule they started? Tuesday?

livid shell
#

There’s still a lag on APAC servers , I suppose scopely is sleeping ?

runic sable
#

Everything is so slow 😭

high lichen
#

hi wher to find wher all missions star,what systems

queen geyser
#

@high lichen try on stfc .space on missions

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you look for something in particular?

high lichen
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i find musr first resrch somthing

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must

heady oxide
#

Any other server being absolutely trashed by glitches and broken gameplay, or is it just 201?

queen geyser
#

mine, 178

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I barelly go to kill 30 hostiles in 15 minutes in mirror universe, the fight animation took around 5 sec, I did 2 armadas, speed them up, saw the animation and got nothing, no logs, no loot, no damage πŸ™‚

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so...everything works as intended

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15 sec*

heady oxide
#

<@&509690795536941056> what's the deal? who decided the earlier 'hotfix' was to become an actual towering inferno of gameplay hell?

queen geyser
#

it's the next level in diablo, after hell you get Inferno πŸ™‚

livid shell
#

After inferno you have scopely stfc

queen geyser
#

he he, bring it on

dull mason
queen geyser
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no, from 178 from the start

dull mason
queen geyser
#

πŸ™‚

livid shell
subtle vortex
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Don't worry it's quality lag. Not quantity lag πŸ˜‰

queen geyser
#

true

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today is a quality lag

dull mason
queen geyser
#

are you rotating, @dull mason ? don't get dizzy?

heady oxide
queen geyser
#

would be nice

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well have fun commanders, I will take a break until tonight, since the game works so well πŸ™‚

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c'ya

outer wedge
#

Whatβ€˜s the difference between Apex barrier and iso dmg?

livid shell
queen geyser
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apex barrier protects against all damage, iso damage is damage that it's not mitigated

queen geyser
#

well, at a very general level

twilit ingot
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Server lagging for anyone?

livid shell
main lance
vagrant holly
#

same on 178

sinful nest
#

@humble orbit @mortal elk , is there really nothing that can be done about game pricing? I feel that what causes people to not spend is the absorbent prices.

It would probably be more financially beneficial if they lowered prices. Any other mobile game makes a lot more profit with lower prices. I even learned that during my bachelor's degree classes in business management theory.

I mean it only works because the entire thing is supported by the backs of whales....if that business model ever falters, so will the game.

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Just out of concern for whale being (word play).

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@heady moon

pulsar portal
sinful nest
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It is, but it's up to them if they need the advice...

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Or even actually care

mortal elk
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They've lucked on a business approach that apparently works for them, I don't see any chance of it changing in the future - if only because they'd have a riot on their hands from the people who went before paying the higher rate

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If it stops working for them... I guess we'll see what happens, but so far πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

sinful nest
mortal elk
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I'm not on the inside, and if I was I wouldn't be allowed to say πŸ˜‚

sinful nest
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I hate to say it like that, but the pricing is obnoxious.

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I understand...

mortal elk
#

the pricing was like this before savvy though, tbf

sinful nest
#

True

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But I mean, if people decide collectively that they don't like an update, this game could crash quick.

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I would hate for that to happen, as would many players

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That isn't a good thing

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That's how unstable this business model is

mortal elk
#

doubt it'll be quick, we've had several car crashes of arcs in the past (Mantis sticks in my head as one of them), and frankly the spending does get addictive, it's really hard to step back and go "I can wait" once you're used to the accelerated progression of dropping a few packs a month πŸ˜‚

sinful nest
#

You would be surprised.

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I've seen games crash quickly over trivial things like that.

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But also playing with addictions only goes so far

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After the community gets tired of something the community dies...

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But I mean...there are a lot of retired people that play this game, so idk

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I just know it's very unstable at the moment.

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As have been many scopely games...

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It's not a good track record

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Like the one that nailed it was Yahtzee with friends

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Really good model

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This one....not so much

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But look at marvel strike force, looney toons...etc

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It's not great...

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There is a reason there are memes about scopely

pulsar portal
mortal elk
#

oh, events have definitely tightened up

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but "potential" sourcing is higher as well with boosted refineries I think would be the counter argument to that 😐

pulsar portal
#

that's said, we gonna see more inflated arcs driving silly packs and more crews so no one can catch up. Good strategy but does it work long time on franchise based games? I think not, some players will buy movie props and not game packs.... so no balance between constant growth and new players finding prices reasonable... I really hope the game last a few more years but hope is dangerous VS whales

sinful nest
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Yeah this game is doomed to fail if drastic changes don't occur.

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Like it is proven time and time again that greed does not equate wealth in the business sector.

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Just look at Enron.

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Need I say more?

sinful nest
#

Not saying scopely is Enron...but the greed is about the same from the player's perspectives

abstract zodiac
#

I have a teammate stuck in warp from mirror space. Clearing localization, uninstall, restarting app didn't work. Any suggestions @restive cargo <@&509691205798592532>

tough vapor
sinful nest
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I don't think it's necessarily dumb

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It's just feigning ignorance.

humble orbit
#

They are, without doubt, titans of the mobile games industry. They also have advanced degrees and generate profit that even the largest video game studios can only dream of. This works right now, and making a move to change it sounds extremely risky.

In theory, broadening your paying base sounds more stable. But I've also heard that the mobile games industry isn't the same as a standard product in a mom and pop store. Whales carry the weight here, and packs that target them make the most sense. Why sell them 5 small packs when 1 5x-sized one does the same thing? It's a better customer experience than buying tons of tiny packs.

abstract zodiac
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They have one

mortal elk
#

make sure to include 'stuck ship'

sinful nest
#

Just because you are titans doesn't mean you won't fail.

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This business model isn't meant for longevity

tough vapor
leaden meadow
sinful nest
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Like you hear the players frustration daily, yet you ignore it.

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Ignorance is not the key to success

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You can't ignore an issue and expect it to go away.

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You are slowly drowning players with this business model.

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Yet you refuse to see it.

tough vapor
leaden meadow
# sinful nest Ignorance is not the key to success

it's likely several higher ups don't care at this point
Scopely's owned by a different company that is supposed to "encourage the growth of the games industry" but is just looking to make profit short term before they sell off to a different investment company
They likely do not give a hoot about the average player, or any player for that matter

sinful nest
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I know they don't care.

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Look at the Looney Toons game.

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Like I hate being like that

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But it leaves me with no other conclusion

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I studied business at length in college and my girlfriend has owned a business. As have many of my family members. Price gouging is not the way to go.

leaden meadow
#

having several channels on this discord for player feedback is quite funny, as they either do nothing with it, or they flat out just don't read them.
The announcements on Discord make that very clear. Changes come from the whale discord complaints, not the 99% rest of players who are absolutely fed up with the constant stream of poo that releases

sinful nest
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And that is how the players feel

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Or they give it to the higher ups and our feedback is ignored.

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This isn't how a successful company shows care about their consumers.

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It's a business model that causes itself to slowly deteriate and die.

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Well most of the decisions are made by whales which in itself is stupid.

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They only make up a small population of the entire player base.

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Literally "backs of whales"

leaden meadow
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I used to spend between 20 - 100 euros a month. Eventually I realised it's pointless because the game isn't improving
If the game were to improve, I'd probably buy the battlepass again at least every month
But I haven't spent in over a year and the way things are going that's not going to change
It's not a lot of money, but there are so many people in my alliance that did a similar thing, that it probably costs them several millions in profit a month now spanning the entire playerbase

sinful nest
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I am not Captain Ahab.

sinful nest
#

And they can state that you don't need to spend, but that is a lie.

leaden meadow
sinful nest
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Heroic events require spendature.

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Yep, same.

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This game is obnoxiously high with game prices.

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Anyways I gtg to bed.

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Work tomorrow

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Broom out. 🧹

leaden meadow
#

night man

nova pilot
#

Hey all,. Question on scoplely store. On my pc version. I can see a pack. "Prime apex barrier pvp lol 2". But on my tablet. Google account. The pack is not showing?

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I should have said. In game store. Sry

late ermine
#

Anyone from apac facing hugh lag issues ?

runic sable
late ermine
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Apparently its been like that for atleast few hours now πŸ™„

tawdry oriole
#

πŸ˜…

late ermine
#

Seriously thats awful

wispy token
#

Eu or us servers like this
...emergency comms...promises of updates and comp chests...APAC....meh someone should look at it tomorrow...ours not theirs...what day is it there again ?

brave stag
tawdry oriole
#

I'm smashing this event.😈

quasi ember
#

fair bit of lag on apac 199 atm, has been gradually getting worse over the last 2 days. entire alliance has mentioned it.

queen jolt
# tawdry oriole

Nice, you're crushing it! What bracket is this, and which crew are you using? I assume you have the Prime Apex Barrier OR Mirror PIC?

sinful nest
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Well a solution to the spending issue would be making ships easier to obtain in game @humble orbit @mortal elk

That is a solution that could satisfy both sides.

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To come to a common ground so to speak. I don't just mean end of arc either, but always. I mean primes and everything else.

We as players need easy access to in game items without having to buy things, but not so easy that it pushes people away or makes the investors unhappy.

It is a well known common middle ground for most games with this kind of situation.

subtle vortex
#

πŸ‘† and did you make it through in one piece?

sinful nest
#

🧹

gray pawn
mortal elk
dull mason
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Euro servers still laggy

dull mason
queen jolt
minor furnace
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Ah. The wrappings of the holy duct

leaden meadow
#

Don't worry, everyone will get 1/3 of a galactic recruit pull as compensation
All fixed

dull mason
gentle elk
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yo How do i affiliate or smt my friend gave me a link and i downloaded the game and played to like level 25 or i got a ship and then he gave me 10$ i also want to invite ppl and get money

warm pivot
#

squeezed out all i could... 😊

silver parcel
quasi ember
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some big games are free to play and only sells cosmetics, no pay to win content. it's worked well for them.
they still rely on whales to bring in the money to keep operations going, but most people see pay to win and instantly say no thank you.
and i think paywalls and pay to win just doesn't have the longevity. it's brought in large amounts of money in the short term. but seems more and more are leaning away from spending and the whales are the only ones left for milking. which will end eventually, as the impact of 1 whale stopping it felt more than 1000's of free to play or small spenders.
TLDR it's a cash grab and nothing more. there's no actual star trek game here.
it's not something you could hold up and say proudly that you play and invite others to play.

gentle elk
silver parcel
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Had I not traded down to unlock some of the nodes before they changed it, would've probably finished it

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Probably a bunch of people in the same boat. Isn'tit lovely.

livid shell
#

….. and we still got the lag

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It’s been 12 hours

warm pivot
silver parcel
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yay, people discovered they could cheese the slb

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(barrier)

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Just watched a bunch of people gain billions

warm pivot
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i don`t know if it is cheese, those who won picard win the slb as well

minor furnace
#

faster with data

warm pivot
#

or they got the prime, or one of the skins

silver parcel
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Slamming a small ship into a big station is cheesing it

warm pivot
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i thought it was disabled in station combat?

silver parcel
#

for defense

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Not for offense

warm pivot
#

ahhh right...

karmic cedar
#

I can rine latinum

silver parcel
#

They've made some bad events before but that one was really really really poorly thought out.

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Was surprised, because they're usually better about separating the g5 from g6 in events scoring on different level hostiles/players like that. They screw players over with the spend events but they're usually better for these types of events. But this whole arc seems to be speed run on angering the most brackets they can.

warm pivot
#

but at least i think i managed to make one person spend minimum ^^

silver parcel
#

at least i owned the ship slb, haha

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with a freshly built monaveen

warm pivot
#

still waiting for my snipe chance there ^^

silver parcel
#

Bit annoyed that you can't use the premium dust on the sms

warm pivot
#

😈

lethal coral
silver parcel
warm pivot
#

did you overdo it? ^^

silver parcel
#

no

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well 30m ahead

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can do 100m more if need be

nova pilot
#

@silver parcel. Can you explain. Why the in game stores are different between in games store. Pc and through Google.

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All I have are Google play credits

silver parcel
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The webstore and on pc is to incentivize you, because they get the full amount where as purchases through ios and android, they get a cut.

nova pilot
#

So. No chance it will go to the in game Google app

warm pivot
#

yeah, the whole webstore was made because they wanna get rid of the greedy middle man, even providing extra multiphasics for the buyer to hook em

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and the daily mission key was another goody to lure players away from the greedy middle man

humble orbit
#

Webstore exclusives are a thing, but most everything eventually ends up on all the platforms.

nova pilot
#

Ty everyone

dry valve
nova pilot
#

I have Google credits from business purchases. He he

dry valve
#

Aha πŸ˜†πŸ‘πŸ»

silver parcel
#

i got my first extra build with a google credit freebie, a long time ago

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same with 2nd research

dry valve
#

Unfortunately job before this I had a substantial budget and card, that would of been fun πŸ€ͺ

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I can’t order a paperclip now πŸ˜†

unkempt sundial
#

if I have a second monaveen do I have to get this from an event store or something?

dull mason
dull mason
dry valve
unkempt sundial
#

parts were piling up and I was ops locked so I got a second one via territory services πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

dry valve
#

Save parts and wait till it’s not ops locked, you want it tiered asap for all those rss

burnt briar
livid shell
#

Can we have a cross over from Andromeda Tv series ? πŸ€”

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Scrappy can make more money with cross overs

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Instead of fixing the 🀬 Lag

burnt briar
#

πŸ˜‚

silver parcel
#

though i don't recall if they ever actually put it on there

unkempt sundial
#

figures. thank you

twilit lintel
#

@dull mason forgot to say yesterday

twilit lintel
silver parcel
#

give or take

twilit lintel
#

3-5?

muted cape
twilit lintel
#

anyone know if u get a mission at op 36?

muted cape
twilit lintel
#

that sucks man

#

wish i was rich

warm pivot
twilit lintel
#

i'll be op 560 by now

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60

muted cape
#

Most missions from upgrading ops are the main missions line, which usually include upgrading academic, shipyard, RD or ops and the odd scout new systems missions. There is also the Franklin-A missions if you have it πŸ€”. Which are ops locked missions

dull mason
warm pivot
#

40 is g4, better said 41/42... because you want to refine at least uncommon stuff and not just commons.
nobody should stop at 40!

west matrix
#

Anyone here who is 100%sure about this and can tell me how many points epic g4 materials generate during the officer recruit events that run almost every week over the weekend? Is it 150 per unit spent or 250?

twilit lintel
#

which op is darrk space i gotta unlock these paths getting tired of seeing the same system everyday lol

muted cape
#

They are still good lvls

dull mason
dry valve
dull mason
twilit lintel
#

and here are missions i cant even do

muted cape
warm pivot
dull mason
twilit lintel
muted cape
twilit lintel
#

i have no other missions

dull mason
dry valve
twilit lintel
dry valve
#

Cost, requirement .. look down

muted cape
twilit lintel
#

how long you been on here lol

dull mason
twilit lintel
#

and wuts ur op lvl lol

muted cape
twilit lintel
muted cape
dry valve
muted cape
twilit lintel
dry valve
muted cape
# twilit lintel you took a break or something?

When game first came out it was chaos no battlepass, no armadas, no shields if i remember correctly πŸ€”. Your strongest ship was the northstar, every alliance fighting for control of housing systems. πŸ˜‚ pure madness game was in playable, I quit and came back after armadas introduced.

I olay casually my goal is to enjoy controlling Star Trek stuff flying around those pixels πŸ˜‚. Idc about upgrading as fast as possible.

civic geyser
muted cape
placid maple
dull mason
karmic cedar
#

@karmic cedar

vapid onyx
#

Why is there no update larch for Android yet?

dull mason
#

⬆️ larch

warm pivot
#

just let it end πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«

solemn plaza
mortal elk
#

I'll just be happy to reach 15bn for a DD 🀣

warm pivot
#

it is just this one lock that prevents me from the next stage of my progressionplan. yeah, the next lock will wait later on as well. but it is just... boring xD

mortal elk
#

yeap

solemn plaza
#

And I'm here still slowly working towards G4 rare ships lol

warm pivot
#

and i`m already on 7 times the reputation per kill... still not enough xD

solemn plaza
solemn plaza
# queen jolt welcome back soap!

I came back at a good time and a really bad time.
Half way through an arc so the free BP elite was wasted.
But then the next arc had the event store so I picked up the Voyager and the Monaveen.
Hopefully the next event store has the NX.

bitter temple
#

my guess, nx-01 at holiday arc store

solemn plaza
bitter temple
#

or grind half.. they usually have the sales for half.. or less to grind for during the store

solemn plaza
#

I can't kill the hostiles you need to kill yet. Haven't got the exborg rep either yet to do the favour to be able to kill the hostiles. Have a long way to go.

bitter temple
#

Ya, folks have a tough go at the initial level 40 stuff. Especially if they rushed to it.

fast grove
#

Are we really doing Pride day again Scopley....

bitter temple
#

Some several note worthy characters from Trek would appreciate the day. Despite our differences, we have a common love of Star Trek. We can start there. Don't need all this other negativity. We have enough of it in this world.

fast grove
#

Scopley shouldn't be bringing politics in the game. They should treat it like helldivers

thorn fjord
#

When you make something apolitical your politics, that’s where you went wrong

fast grove
#

When you make something political apolitical that's where you are wrong

dull mason
#

Getting the latest Ship ⬆️

warm pivot
#

at least it is just a day and not a whole month anymore... i mean even mothers and fathers got a day, so yeah, a day can be permitted

fast grove
#

Scopley should make it pay only at least 🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣

neat saddle
#

Why do we celebrate Easter in STFC? They should keep politics out of games.

dull mason
warm pivot
dull mason
dull mason
#

Easter isn't political

fast grove
#

I say take it all out

dull mason
#

Chocolate eggs, are Ridiculous...

bitter temple
#

Than a zombie goes around and hides them!

warm pivot
#

since everybody decides their own reality, june is no longer a pride month

bitter temple
#

I'm a dinosaur!

queen jolt
#

I'm Simpauly simpauly

solemn plaza
bitter temple
#

how can you say something that looks like a planet... isn't a planet?!

solemn plaza
warm pivot
#

well with pluto iΒ΄m angry as well, my old planet memo trick sentence doesn`t work anymore

bitter temple
#

So Pluto is just another moon? A rebel one perhaps

warm pivot
#

a planetoid they say

queen jolt
#

4 extra builder tokens, where did you get that?

bitter temple
#

like a planet midget?

compact parrot
#

My Very Easy Method Just Sums Up Nine.............

queen jolt
#

wait it disappeared

solemn plaza
bitter temple
#

When you've lived long enough to see a planet come and go... next you'll tell me there are aliens

solemn plaza
warm pivot
#

whats a planet ^^

solemn plaza
warm pivot
bitter temple
solemn plaza
warm pivot
#

they got access to the internet, in a way they left

bitter temple
warm pivot
bitter temple
#

civilliazation reseting?! ooo noes

#

good thing we're all overweight, so at least we won't go hungry

solemn plaza
autumn escarp
#

is there a sourcing for phlox yet?

bitter temple
#

ya.. but you won't like it

solemn plaza
void minnow
bitter temple
#

welcome to the new age, the only way for dedicated sourcing is spend events.. an arc store, or a slow drip loop

dull mason
#

The euro servers are still waiting

warm pivot
#

for what?

foggy lark
#

When is ai gonna take over coding for scopely?

dull mason
bitter temple
#

when is scopes gonna sell ai Maia as a girl friend?

dull mason
#

How to beat and take top spots on battle barrier
Buy all Docks and auto hunt..

The End πŸ‘ŽπŸΌπŸ˜‘πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ

#

Give Free two play player's a path to get G and H Docks

foggy lark
bitter temple
#

well she'll be my ai.. so ya

solemn plaza
weak cosmos
#

If this is true then perhaps Apple Store and Google Play should be aware.

boreal oasis
#

i haven't enjoyed "new" content in months/years - i'm usually a 4+ months behind on all the new stuff

#

pay2play the new content, but free2play eventually just not compete

foggy lark
#

Lotsa typos in that post....

sinful nest
#

Yeah that seems very fabricated, no offense

inland gull
#

The highest density of players is ops 39 bracket. There’s an easy solution. Give a free prime that cuts all g3 mat requirements in half That you can research after having a g3 epic at tier 6.

sinful nest
#

Like scopely may be greedy, but that is not something they would do

#

Even they know that isn't smart

queen jolt
solemn plaza
sinful nest
weak cosmos
#

I understand the need to make money but they are greedy.

bitter temple
#

Can you f2p still and be somewhat effective sure. Can you f2p to g6+? .... pfffffffff At best f2p will be good at their level bracket.. a low one at that.. that's all

weak cosmos
solemn plaza
weak cosmos
#

Announcement probably crashed during upload 🀣

heavy ermine
#

Nah just retrieving...

queen jolt
#

shocking righttt lol

pine phoenix
#

In 2055 maybe

queen jolt
#

wait wait wait not totally f2p

solemn plaza
weak cosmos
queen jolt
bitter temple
#

g6 with lowish.. spending.. as in battle passes only.. maybe

heavy ermine
#

Smart $20 battle pass players should be at G6 or almost by now.

boreal oasis
#

lol, calling f2p casual now?

pine phoenix
#

So no f2p g6

solemn plaza
pine phoenix
#

Sad we getting same bugs f2p and p2w

bitter temple
#

just 200 more of those bps.. and someday you'll make it to g6

humble orbit
#

Nah, the queue artifact is p2w only. πŸ˜ƒ

warm pivot
# queen jolt wait wait wait not totally f2p

you gotta have the armadacores for the armadacenter or at least someone who bought them to get everyone into doing armadas... nobody can reach ops 51 completely without anyone spending

solemn plaza
# queen jolt good one soap

Can I atleast get the rewards for the lvl45-50 bracket for the Barriers slb. I'd be first place in that too but I'm only lvl44.

bitter temple
distant mica
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Am I missing something the ASM hostiles or do they have no point besides the research that buffs stats against just ….them?

sinful nest
pine phoenix
weak cosmos
dull mason
distant mica
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I do love the people who are like I’m f2p I only get the BP every new meme ship a few primes and a resource pack or two a month

dull mason
solemn plaza
sinful nest
distant mica
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Talking about f2p g6 πŸ˜… scopely got jokes

humble orbit
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The trick is to get employed by scopely, so the money you get paid was basically theirs. Totally counts.

solemn plaza
distant mica
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They probably pay their people in vaults of latinum

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But it’s an amazing value!

sinful nest
queen jolt
dull mason
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We need some compo Chests

livid shell
queen jolt
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sinful nest
dull mason
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@queen jolt
Why o'why can't I Swap
Uncommon Uranium for Rare or even Epic uranium...
It seems such an easy thing to set up
Also swap Fed ,ROM, and Klingon credits into Independent credits

bitter temple
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Or insist on playing stfc on a apple product

sinful nest
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It would defeat the purpose

dull mason
bitter temple
sinful nest
unique sluice
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Is there a way to hide events you don't want to see?

silver parcel
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I can see where this is going

lyric haven
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Right on queue πŸ˜”

dull mason
unique sluice
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I'm guessing that's a no

shy hamlet
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what event don't you want to see?

dull mason
pine phoenix
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All

livid shell
shy hamlet
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I think the quantum ones got moved into a folder already

unique sluice
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The pride events

woeful remnant
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will there be any chance of geting salvage feesha skin in store @humble orbit

sinful nest
livid shell
sinful nest
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And probably always will be πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

woeful remnant
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@queen jolt any chance of feesha salvage skin in store? the thing we want not getting and the thing we dont need spam in store

dull mason
sinful nest
silver parcel
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no dice

livid shell
dull mason
solemn plaza
dull mason
blissful swallow
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They just had us spend all our tokens for a slb. Now they want us to do sms's how!?!?

delicate tartan
dull mason
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Blue ticket event is a waste of TIME

blissful swallow
solemn plaza
blissful swallow
delicate tartan
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What I absolutely love is this. Put thus out at reset without the events to complete them

twilit jackal
unique sluice
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I dislike those events very much

bright goblet
warm pivot
tepid lotus
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Well, at least it isn't The Acolyte episode 3.

solemn plaza
nova pilot
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We have 3 people saying there taking time off from the game. 1 said they are going for deletion. Over the pride event.

silver parcel
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And nothing of value will be lost

unique sluice
unique sluice
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Pro pride people can be jerks when people have different opinions.

woeful remnant
inland gull