🌌-galaxy-chat

[late pawn]

@lapis seal did you not do the teaser video so you don't have to get torched for introducing more PVP?

[faint vessel]

oh no, scopely show the launch video to fuel the pitchforks

[shut fossil]

SCOPLY STOP DOING VIDEO, THAT STUFF ANNOYING JUST PULLING THE GAME UP!

[lapis seal]

I was there. Behind the TNG stand

[crude phoenix]

Can be pretty sure it favores big spendy whales just as the rest of the pvp system lol.

[warm shuttle]

I can't wait, as an ops53, to be in a pvp event against an ops 70

[late pawn]

The PVP levels are a joke.

[faint vessel]

i do pvp - as far as opc hunting. pointless otherwise

[warm flume]

@lapis seal did you gain weight and grow facial hair? God I hope not

[tardy yacht]

Loops on loops on loops yo

[lapis seal]

I have done one of those things. You choose which you think it is

[faint vessel]

still protecting the whales, not the lowers 😹

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/loopring-loop-i-love-loop-no-i-love-loop-gif-25243439

[keen cosmos]

A dangerous choice. I hope he chooses wisely.

[late pawn]

I'm guessing facial hair. But that's ok, it happens.

[slim sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/poison-ivy-poison-ivy-btas-poison-ivy-batman-the-animated-series-batman-the-animted-series-btas-gif-4015365420421273214

[void yoke]

The game wasn’t dying fast enough, so they are employing new measures to the psyops against the player base. Just how far, and how much, will folks put up with and spend. We shall see.

[tardy yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-bowser-milk-froot-loops-cereal-gif-27265476

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-through-this-one-more-time-agent-connelly-agent-bill-sphinx-south-park-s3e11-gif-21682666

[coarse phoenix]

They want you to spend money on monopoly go instead

[foggy lark]

Monopoly Go has surprisingly little lag....

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-arsenio-hall-semmi-coming-to-america-spitting-gif-885661656748894999

[trail plover]

Does scope not take care of you properly

[faint vessel]

is it run on a prehistoric database and unity?

[tardy yacht]

MS Access 2.0

[late pawn]

The Eclipse happened, and the world didn't end. I feel really cheated.

[trail plover]

Does anyone think twylor swift is bigger than the beatles

[faint vessel]

lag is still here though

[slim sierra]

I was watching closely for the aliens who were supposed to abduct us. Sad times.

[foggy lark]

Not by collective weight

[tardy yacht]

maybe in height

[warm shuttle]

Scopely will kill all the playerbase and be left with two extremes: the super low level ftp or the ultra whale

At the end they can have only one server for everyone

[faint vessel]

wishful thinking.... i was hoping for a big strapping klingon with two.....

[trail plover]

I mean ok lennon messed up for real and said they were bigger than jesus but they are a popular band

[foggy lark]

When they come...
I plan on selling out humanity for my own survival 😏

[faint vessel]

....cars !!

[late pawn]

Where is our free Scopely "Eclipse Gift" .. Seems like a missed opportunity to throw us a couple peanuts.

[slim sierra]

Humanity really deserves that.

[trail plover]

I dont think she's more popular than Jackson despite his behaviour she's a Good singer tho

[faint vessel]

i'd settle for a klingon without the cars.... 🙈 😹

[tardy yacht]

you mean an eclipse special pack at $99

[sharp owl]

Love how they keep ramming “pvp” down our throats. They’re not losing players fast enough?

[foggy lark]

Seems like tempting fate challenging the swifties though...

[late pawn]

ramming down our throats.. Is basically PVP in a nutshell anyways. Since it's almost always 56 against a 42, etc.

And with things being Ops Locked, it makes sure that the higher level Ops will ALWAYS have the advantage. (They won't always win, because people are stupid, but they always can.)

[trail plover]

Il just play some beatles songs, remind them of beatle mania

Watch them lose their minds

[finite otter]

Did you not see the preview? 😱

[trail plover]

We have clouds

[sharp owl]

That’s why I said “pvp”. No such thing as pvp in this game.

[trail plover]

They didn't understand the eclipse

[foggy lark]

All these reporters sound incredibly dim when they exclaim about how dark it is...

[keen cosmos]

Oh no @lapis seal you’ve gotta teach this guy 😝

[late pawn]

It's almost like the Game Developers are not actually in this chat.

[faint vessel]

oh no not another panic 🙈 😹

[late pawn]

Or most likely just ignore it.. But we can't say they just listen to the Whales either, because my understanding is that they aren't happy either. Maybe the PVP is actually what they want? But I can't see that.

Our 64 in our alliance seems to mostly hate it.

[warm shuttle]

They get bored when there's no pvp. How are you gonna show off how much you spent on your ships if the peasants can't even reach the systems you grind?

[trail plover]

You should open a ticket and contact support

[faint vessel]

maybe its a good thing they're sounding out opinions prior..... let hope they are watching

[late pawn]

Honestly, I'm all for PVP, just has to be PVP that makes sense.

[dusky cove]

Well at least this arc we know who we're asking to be fired if this is another utter disaster....

[trail plover]

Kirk wins no matter who he fights. That's the only pvp that makes sense

[tardy yacht]

I agree with that, most times it turns into a bully fest

[proven bolt]

It’s alliance milestone right? And takes into account raiding and opc hunting. I don’t see any problems

[tardy yacht]

games arent fun if there is no balance

[faint vessel]

i only looked at the promo video briefly.... rewards for opc hitting - which most do anyway

[warm shuttle]

I'm sure my 100M vorcha has a chance against anything a 60+ player brings to the table. We are in the same bracket, it will be great

[trail plover]

He could be in realta fighting 60 ship and I would be happy that he blew them out the sky

[late pawn]

There's nearly 0 skill in PVP currently. All about crew and time played.

[faint vessel]

seriously how much opc is available?

[heady moon]

Get where you're coming from, but there are some QoL improvements coming too. Think we'll be hearing more info about them in the not too distant future...

[proven bolt]

Our server has a lot of opc iso. Like, more than you can max refine

[trail plover]

Are they adding we fight them ourselves into the game

[late pawn]

The first real semi-"Skill based" thing is probably Waves, and they kinda royally screwed that one up.

[chilly cypress]

Will they Neff Freeman or leave PvP busted?

[faint vessel]

all this will do is make people use crappy ships overnight and not actively mine

[dusky cove]

I hope you're right, I'd love to be proven wrong but all I've been hearing from CC boils down to "well scopely 'heard' the community feedback and decided to go full steam ahead anyway"

[trail plover]

I selected the ship and taped the attack button and you are implying I used no skill

[proven bolt]

Could be server specific, not gonna argue that since our server has some farmers. But they will absolutely leave meridians with little pc all the time

[trail plover]

Smh

[solid plinth]

Pointless and unwanted PvP arc imho

[boreal oasis]

ngl, feels like another loop

[late pawn]

Lies, based on the love for incursions.. Everyone LOVES PVP............................

[trail plover]

I dunno what's going on

[chilly cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/suits-harvey-specter-the-lies-we-tell-ourselves-gabriel-macht-gif-14800190

[proven bolt]

My big concern is the amount of iso and base damage gonna flood the galaxy. Means big gets bigger, small means less

[heady moon]

From my interactions with some of the CC's they've been cautiously optimistic. I won't put words in their mouthes, but the preview we has went pretty well. I'm really interested to hear what you peeps think tomorrow when everything is out.

[finite otter]

You mean they're going to scramble to release some info to offset the negativity the first one caused.

[dusky cove]

I honestly can't think who thought "hmm guess what the playerbase wants? A PVP arc month to show just how pay to win STFC is" would be a good idea.....

[faint vessel]

similar to the constant mining events because the metrics show we love mining --- mining is a necessity

[solid plinth]

I’m 90% shielded during that

[heady moon]

Nope. They've been working on it for a while.

[late pawn]

Means you have to have played the game longer to win. Simple.

[proven bolt]

Or whale hard

[solid kayak]

the top 1% want it but want to be able to hit everyone like in territory

[heady moon]

I agree the PvP could be hit or miss, but I'm saying there are improvements coming too.

[trail plover]

Pvp is fun

[solid plinth]

2/3 months if I remember the metric right

[trail plover]

As long as you blocked the cry babysb

[late pawn]

Hopefully it's Level Restrictions.

[trail plover]

Insults come fast

[sand salmon]

War room : another way for big alliances and big players to scrap their feet on our face! Oh great! I was tired of being bullied by lv52+ players as a lv42. So promisiiiiing! #warroom

[sharp pelican]

Given the level of frustration with all of the extra loops scopely has been introducing it might have been better to lead with those than a feature that is obviously going to get half the playerbase pee’d off

[faint vessel]

or sold your eldest child and a kidney to scopely

[solid plinth]

It won’t be

[heady moon]

For this arc specifically, they've been planning some pretty good QoL stuff.

[late pawn]

10 Levels up, 10 Levels down. Would be pretty easy to give that a shot.

[finite otter]

Yeah, but aren't they basically krakens and above? Of course they're going to love it.

[heady moon]

Good point....

[proven bolt]

I don’t think we’ll ever see existing PvP bands change. Maybe future stretches, but not what’s already there. I am not a lawyer

[faint vessel]

for whom though? will simple things be gated behind syndicate? ie chest redemption?

[late pawn]

You shouldn't interact directly with the Credit Cards. Conflict of interest.

[coarse phoenix]

The playerbase has been begging for less loops and a new pvp loop is added

[heady moon]

Their accounts may be, but they still understand players at most ops. Think the CCs aren't quite that myopic.

[brisk mesa]

hit or miss? its so friggin out of balance theres no scale for it, its straight up pay to play

[high crow]

Obsidian its me any updates on server 94 g5 keys?

[swift moon]

Some of the CC's ARE that myopic.

[finite otter]

Exactly.

[solid plinth]

Yeah prime based probably. Like the launching of multiple armadas.
1 extra free for the player base would have been nice.
But straight to a prime was a poor QoL improvement

[dusky cove]

Here's a recording of CC looking for the scopely quality bar after the xindi arcs: https://www.southparkstudios.com/video-clips/cmm6o8/south-park-searching-for-the-bar

[faint vessel]

ooof language 🙈 😹

[vast topaz]

Quoting for future reference as I bet its a 100% straight up lie.

[heady moon]

Some. But not all. In my conversations they've been really good about talking about ops 30s and 40s. Not just 50s and 60s.

[proven bolt]

Omg, just please make sure assaults don’t come back

[late pawn]

To make live easy in STFC, you need to be a CC (That could be a Content Creator, or a Credit Card - you decide)... easy.

[heady moon]

Sorry you feel that way.

[frank loom]

The problem is you all might chase off most before any of us see these supposed quality of life improvements. This PvP arc may be the end of the road for many.

[faint vessel]

bet they dont get a mute

[trail plover]

Don't worry just kill everyone

[heady moon]

Lemme check!

[high crow]

Also do you onow when are they pairing sindicate with syndicate event? Because ecery time there are events the milestone syndicate comes after the world ne you get tons of syndicate exp

[late pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-declined-card-credit-card-declined-gif-17583783

[brisk mesa]

this sounds like Assaults 2.0

[sand salmon]

The brackets in pvp are just ridiculous; we can't win, no matter the crew.

[hot dove]

We all feel that way as its the same lies with every arc

[heady moon]

I agree that we should have gotten these QoL improvements sooner. But I'm still glad we're getting them. My plan is to continue to get QoL improvements with each arc. I think this one is a good start.

[coarse phoenix]

OH it's not we don't trust you, it's there is no reciprocation or respect for the player base.

Players want to play the game, and there are full chats listed with suggestions of QOL in the suggestion channels that are largely ignored.

May as well just remove them if scoeply isn't going to listen

[dusky cove]

Might have been wiser to showcase some of those (and ensure they work) since this preview just makes me go "yup, they're aiming to anger us again, should I just put up a month long shield and call it a miss/just finally acknowledge scopely isn't even trying to pretend anymore and uninstall the game?"

[trail plover]

Remmeber and tell people why you quit

[heady moon]

Brackets do need to be adjusted. Agreed.

[dull mason]

Give F2P a chance to get G and H Docks...
Asap...

[heady moon]

Ping me tomorrow in DM with your thoughts about the new arc. I'm interested to hear what you think.

[trail plover]

That the game and players were too hard for you

[brisk mesa]

theres no money in those

[trail plover]

And you would have won a medal but as of yet none exists for cowardice

[finite otter]

It's to give people hope that their voice matters when all that really does is their $$$.

[heady moon]

Hmmm... if only we were going to do that somehow....

[faint vessel]

they've set the bonfire....... matches are £99

[mild trout]

have the crybabies stopped bawling about the war room yet so the rest of us can actually discuss it

[late pawn]

99.99 packs that give basically garbage.. Are a pretty clear indicator that money is the key driver, not GAMEPLAY.

[faint vessel]

always better to showcase the crap, then the QOL will make up for it

[trail plover]

The xindi could use a break to be honest

[brisk mesa]

you mean the 5 pvpers here

[hasty hemlock]

there shouldve been an eclipse event today. missed opportunity

[proven bolt]

8. I have alts! (I don’t actually. No idea how anyone would want to mine…twice as much)

[trail plover]

I missed the eclipse too

[faint vessel]

maybe highlight the new tech along with a sneak preview/spoilers of the QoL improvements.

[trail plover]

No one said in chat

I gues fuel for the pvp event

[dusky cove]

When the arc runner decides assaults 2.0 (just with better rewards) is the feature they think'll be the most popular that they want to highlight can you really blame me for being skeptical? As I said I'd love to be proven wrong but this really doesn't inspire much cofnidence.

[faint vessel]

Wheres this years roadmap? 🤔

[trail plover]

Cofnidence

[rugged reef]

Where’s the quality over quantity?

[late pawn]

I still think my least favorite thing is Formadas and I like the rewards. They're just a pain in the ass to do.

[trail plover]

What's that @dusky cove

[late pawn]

Not enough slots in each leg, and you have to make sure there are enough people around... just a pain.

[finite otter]

We don't need a map. The cliff is right in front of us. 🤷

[proven bolt]

Agreed. You can’t do them solo, so you gotta get others

[faint vessel]

and the legs are still broken..... 😹

[trail plover]

What rewards do you win

[late pawn]

The Artifact rewards. Some of them are pretty nice.

[coarse phoenix]

Aren't like 1/3 of the formation systems glitched out?

[faint vessel]

it was a serious question, but i cant stop laughing

[trail plover]

Are you really ethan hawk?

[late pawn]

Mostly from the Premium Boxes, which means you have to START A leg for it to be worthwhile.

[dusky cove]

So...how many people are going to buy the war room pack to see if they can max it with 1 pack before scopely realizes it 😇 ?

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/end-homer-simpson-the-end-is-near-sign-guy-simpsons-gif-10822004

[high crow]

Obsidian any good news yet? Or my server 94 is gonna be a dead server lol.

[finite otter]

I gotcha. I'm just being a smart, er, aleck. Discouragement deflection. 🤣

[rugged reef]

So when everyone is trying to mine to progress and people keep killing them, scopely is probably expecting more people to pay to progress

[proven bolt]

If the end was near we’d have a bunch of things breaking and like 3 different start times for events

[rugged reef]

Because that’s never happened lol

[faint vessel]

haven't the events sync'd now? they have here 🤔

[proven bolt]

I had 3 different starts this morning. So I have to hold my syndicate pulls each day til the last one just in case

[late pawn]

obviously ROE will protect everyone! 🙂

[rugged reef]

My servers big alliance doesn’t even listen to each other let alone the rules

[late pawn]

I do remember before RoE where you had to park warships over your miner to keep from being an easy target. 😂

[trail plover]

What is roe?

[late pawn]

Yeah, RoE is flawed because it's a gentlemans rule.. Not anything in the game mechanics.

[faint vessel]

fish eggs

[late pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/roe-salmon-roe-salmon-salmon-guy-sushi-gif-13954960

[high crow]

I have an idea to prevent all war and thats a treaty pair each alliance and go to a system and start killing war ships that way both alliances score

[trail plover]

Are they going to protect people

[rugged reef]

Having the PvP brackets fixed ( @heady moon ) may just help with that, even in the slightest it would cut down the amount of times someone like idk a 41 would be slaughtered by ships with more powers than some alliances

[rugged reef]

Just from my experience

[faint vessel]

the pvp barriers are only there to protect the whales 😹

[rugged reef]

My point exactly

[trail plover]

The guys on my server are going to need repair and trit packs

[late pawn]

How does it protect them? They are untouchable.

[rugged reef]

They swing down, they never even scratch their paid for ships

[late pawn]

Ahh, you mean during events allowing them to not have to actually touch each others junk.. got it.

[hallow orbit]

if war room just means wild west, I see a lot of servers out there that will turn into ghost towns, I'm really hoping there is some sort of structure to the event or mechanic other than just "go blow up ships", I hate to say it sounds like just a mini server side incursion but that is kind of what it sounds like.

But if you wanna talk about event brackets, the 51-70 SLB bracket needs to go!

[pseudo gorge]

the whales need food they don't have to risk their ships for

[hallow orbit]

that being said, I'm curious enough to try it

[late pawn]

ALL Brackets are flawed. ALL PVP Level restrictions are flawed. Basically anything that CAN be fixed easily.. is Flawed.

[foggy lark]

Heard we're Finally getting Tuvix this arc 👀

[heady moon]

Totally understand the skepticism, but this isn't assaults 2.0. (Tho we really should at somepoint revisit assaults.) This is pvp that involves your alliance and not ASBs.

[proven bolt]

I thought I heard scoring for opc and raiding, so hopefully it scores in a way that doesn’t promote random hits. No loot don’t shoot seems pretty standard

[hallow orbit]

Yeah I cause a looooot of repair bills this weekend on guys 10 levels above me, that was fun watching Ent Ds explode repeatedly against my base lol

[rugged reef]

Miners are still PvP, people will@kill just to kill

[heady moon]

This is a really good point.

[foggy lark]

Scopley is more a film studio now than a video game company...

[brisk mesa]

fortunately all my mining its done

[proven bolt]

Maybe zero nodes, but limited milestones and hatred of forever wars hopefully confine it to territory capture or looting. They might give 10x scoring for loot or during capture, etc. I guess we’ll see

[rugged reef]

Each new update sends more people screaming away from the game

[finite otter]

I think they're referring to the reception of the addition, not the actual mechanics.

[faint vessel]

we used to be able to avoid the content creators begging for money, now we have scopely producing videos for youtube metrics and money. if the videos were of interest, i'd watch.... currently this isnt the case..... also if they werent so intrusive and preventing access to basic in game features .... ie help button. for the haters, yes i can click the button - but why the heck should I have to do this? it happens everytime i clear localisation/delete the cache.

[late pawn]

Territory is that area that I love to hate. The idea is great, but the extreme limitations mean the top alliances have 3*.. Everyone else, pick up crumbs.

[hallow orbit]

thats why I'm hoping theres some sort of structure to it, cause if not, well on our server most will see this as an excuse to just take the gloves off and cause mayhem

[high crow]

Guys just ask the other alliance to help each other and both can do the event without a war involve

[rugged reef]

They are actively rewarding PvP, people that like PvP won’t care about forever wars when they are ACTIVELY BEING REWARDED FOR IT 😂

[dusky cove]

Eh please dont revisit assaults, it's a bad idea with even worse execution, please just leave that idea in the past. I'll obviously give the arc a fair chance and I'd LOVE to be proven wrong but at this point I'm mainly seeing a lot of venues for drama and frustrated players. For many players it'll likely be "oh look, a month long of being cannon fodder, how 'fun'"

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/knocked-up-paul-rudd-ah-to-be-young-youthful-getting-old-gif-23575822

[hallow orbit]

God please no!

lol

[high crow]

Lol

[green ginkgo]

Looks like it is going to be open warfare. No point mining no point doing hostiles no point playing

[foggy lark]

Was assaults the galaxy wide pvp event that turned into a shieldorama?

[late pawn]

Man how worthless so much content is...

[brisk mesa]

no assault could have been great, but the halfassed it

[heady moon]

Understood. But I think that any improvements to comms is good. I think we're improving and are giving players more info earlier. Not perfect yet, but better.

[hallow orbit]

the whole starbase system was a flat fail, it never really turned into anythign anyone cared about beause it was so limited and had 0 interaction for anyone, assualts just fizzled out as well becasue of it

[late pawn]

I don't mind scopely doing videos. Go for it. Those 99.99 packs gotta pay for something.

[green ginkgo]

Pre warned to delete account now rather than waste time waiting fir the update

[high crow]

If you shorten the gap maybe it would be cool, 60 to 70 gap 50 to 60 and you cant go below that.

[brisk mesa]

i dont mind more content but i hate another ingame button to hit

[late pawn]

Starbases were a big worthless update, for sure.

[hot needle]

@heady moon am not going to lie im not looking forward to this months arc if its PvP based

[proven bolt]

First, I do appreciate the more communication. More info, earlier, all great. However, communication is two ways. The 3 months 3 loops ain’t great. So hopefully we’re heard on that front

[rugged reef]

Better comms has been something players have wanted for literal years now, but now that we are getting better comms the majority of players feel there’s a sharp decline in content, not exactly the trade off people wanted

[late pawn]

Eclipse has run it's course and doesn't provide enough outside of the loop to matter.

[hallow orbit]

I like the idea o fhe vidos, getting a preview of upcoming content and an explanation of some of the mechanics is somethign that has been sorely lacking for the last 2 years, even a 30 second "heres how it works" is better than "figure it out for yourselves"

[faint vessel]

improvement in comms is amazing, 2 steps forward.... 1 step back with the videos [intrusive, irrelevant and frustrating]

[late pawn]

Independent Space is worthless. ... They let areas and arcs die off, without ever touching them again.

[coarse phoenix]

When do we start getting that communication in game rather than discord?

[late pawn]

Cosmic Cleanup could level scale, and have more ships.. but nope.

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[dusky cove]

No word on how they'll fix the silent loop or make the xindi loop actually rewarding either

[rugged reef]

If they could just f’in make a trading post to turn old loot into new loot and get rid of old crap in our inventory, the game would probably revitalize

[rugged reef]

@heady moon free chicken, since it seems like you’re actually listening

[coarse phoenix]

We don't even get a notification for incursions, so now we're dropping a month long pvp event with no in game notice

[foggy lark]

A delete button or meat grinder for the tribbles would be helpful...

[heady moon]

Gotcha. And for what its worth, I appreciate you giving the arc a chance. And I do understand your hesitations with a PvP focused arc.

[faint vessel]

regional times in event announcements would be a good thing aswell. We used to get everything by UTC or times listed by region..... it doesnt happen anymore 😦
This is making the game so inaccessible for anyone not in the USA

[trail plover]

He can't llap either

[faint vessel]

why have the UTC game time when announcements aren't made based on this? Major communication fail

[heady moon]

Hey now. I think the video was great and giving players more info sooner is better.

[coarse phoenix]

More is not always better(quanity not quality)

[desert shale]

Maybe actually listen

[foggy lark]

More is quality...

[high crow]

The thing is the players with brains will be shielded always, so it would be impossible to hit someone.

[late pawn]

Yeah.. There should be an exchange.. " 100 X bps for 1 Y bp.." Would even be a start. They already do it with Officer Shards.

[dusky cove]

Past pvp based event runs made servers wastelands so I'm really surprised scopely thinks a month of this'll be popular for anybody but those who want to swing their credit cards around though

[trail plover]

What's the bigges pack of red bulls you can buy

[heady moon]

DM'd you

[foggy lark]

They have red bull kegs...

[valid warren]

I’m not commenting on the communication I’m commenting on quality. You know they have a bit of money from all the packs

[late pawn]

people swinging credit cards are the ONLY ones scopely cares about though.

[hot needle]

In this case it disappoints many players that don't like PvP

[faint vessel]

shame there wasn't any mention of the QoL updates though..... this is what scopely promised and what the punters want

[trail plover]

Scope should do red bull sponsors , jking it's usa. They would be sued for that

[heady moon]

Oh dude. I would love a trading post.

[civic geyser]

Meh yep that’s my ops lvl ! So I go run when I see a ops 54

[heady moon]

Hasn't been any mention yet....

[upbeat flax]

I don't know why everyone is suddenly complaining about PvP brackets, they have been actively protecting whales since they brought the cube out. If you even dare to punch up it gets weaker, but a whale smashes you with no issue

[foggy lark]

Pvp banding is way outta wack yo

[valid warren]

That was promised years ago but never fulfilled

[dusky cove]

I'm aware though if they keep encouraging people to quit the game like scopely has the past 3 months they won't have enough people to swat at with their credit cards

[faint vessel]

you mentioned QoL updates earlier

[heady moon]

Pinged you.

[trail plover]

Whales swim

In water

[indigo tangle]

I fear this will be a jumped the shark moment for many.

[desert shale]

This game shall go the way of the dodo

[late pawn]

with credit cards.

[trail plover]

It's good to protect whales

[foggy lark]

You can only hit down 11 levels and your attacker can hit down at least 19 at 54? Makes no sense

[rugged reef]

The simple things that make sense are over looked, the things that don’t make sense that scopely can milk are implemented, im tired of watching people leave the game and waiting for the game to die man

[heady moon]

Not the specifics. That's still coming.

[brisk mesa]

id settle for archiving in items and officers

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/2022-savethewhales-gif-24955459

[faint vessel]

i bet the player base would have been interested in a sneak peek with regards to that aswell

[heady moon]

I know they are. Its coming...

[late pawn]

CMs aren't authorized to give sneak peaks, that would make too much sense.

[faint vessel]

just a thought. i know i would, rather than a new building with goodness knows what else included

[candid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[faint vessel]

the live ops arc runner was though 😹

[brisk mesa]

lt will be hidden behind lvl 36 of syndicate, lol

[dusky cove]

Should we expect any fixes to the silent or xindi loops? The xindi loop is still a joke reward wise, we're 3 months further and we still have barely progress on favours, especially with the NX-01 draining UC and the chests having a depressing drop rate for rares.

[rugged reef]

You’re thinking too hard take a breather

[trail plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-yes-agreed-star-trek-kirk-gif-15202097

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/sheldon-bbt-hyperventilation-cant-breathe-gif-8676969

[civic geyser]

Guess with this new arc I best go ask in players helping players how to take out a lvl54

[late pawn]

If an Arc has already happened it will not see improvements. That's the Scopely way.

[foggy lark]

It's coming and it's gonna be amazing ... reminded of that South Park with George RR Martin... wish I could post a gif or meme from it... but don't want a ban

[rugged reef]

Spend a couple thousand and then realize you’ll never catch up and leave the game

[lusty marsh]

It's not a month though, it sounds permanent

[dusky cove]

Nah they'll often add/sell primes/officers/..... later to adjust things

[heady moon]

I can say that we are planing adjustments to the xindi armadas, which, I think should be the priority.

[flint ruin]

Does that mean they will be adjusted?

[faint vessel]

rage quit and rejoin within 2-3 weeks

[dusky cove]

Giving us 10 x as many launches would be a start 😅

[rugged reef]

Spend another couple hundred, rinse and repeat

[dusky cove]

urgh don't remind me, I'm expecting so much drama from it

[hallow orbit]

Trading post would sure be helpful for all these old bps that we can't use or to help out lower level players, I've got 100s of 1000s of 3* materials I'll never be able to burn up, why shouldn't I be able to help out lower levels by giving them stuff I can't use.

Moreover, we need a way to clear out the inventory or to "scrap" unwanted items, I have 3 years worth of useless tokens just collecting dust; the only ones that ever see any repeat use are the Borg war funds because that event is recurring, even if it is only quarterly, the Saint Patricks day events we get a new currency every year, same with Thanksgiving and Christmas etc, reusing the tokens letting those rollover wouldn't hurt because we rarely get any significant quantity of them and nothing in the stores is ever earth shattering enough that people would hoard them. At very least we need to be able to drop the unwanted stuff.

[foggy lark]

So that 70s can hit down to level 5*

[late pawn]

I used currency to get the Armada speed ups, and then realized they don't work well for me at Ops 44.. because I'm always waiting on people to show up .. They are meant for high level whales lol

[flint ruin]

Oh you sneaky devil…🤣

[faint vessel]

because the gift will mean loss of store packs, it'll unbalance the economy 🤔
imagine if every level 60+ gave away things.....

[rugged reef]

This. Just. This.

[heady moon]

Agreed! Sourcing is one of things that needs to be addressed.

[plush lark]

Scoply needs to add a bounty system to pvp. Like, the more you kill, the higher the bounty, and others chase ya down to cash it in

[dusky hinge]

How about a "back" button for when you make a mistake? One press per day.

[hallow orbit]

The players who are struggling the most aren't spenders to begin with lol

[plush lark]

Bonus points if it takes the "bounty" from the players base lol

[faint vessel]

that's their issue

[brisk mesa]

it funny ppl talk about how new star trek pushing agendas, this clip is clearly demoing behavior and has anyone ever watch dragnet, mass manipulation in law behavior, only way to be a coherent message across nation, lol

[heady moon]

From what I've heard, there is a conversation still going on about adjusting them. What I don't have is a timeline. Won't be this arc, but there is still a plan to adjust.

[finite otter]

And if they want Scopely to care about them they need to spend more, apparently.

[timber robin]

Needs to be zone specific for PVP as there are players who will just kill everyone because they spent more

[faint vessel]

its been the same for the last 5 years.... they're a business, not a charity

[rugged reef]

Now I’m gonna ask this out of cynicism because it must be asked, to lessen the brackets right?

[hallow orbit]

I disagree, arguably they're the smart ones lol

[late pawn]

Anecdotally my Support messages get answered a lot faster when I'm at least buying the BP, than when I didn't spend any money. Could just be them getting better at responding though.

[faint vessel]

i didnt say they werent smart. personally, i'm trying to spend as little as possible this time around

[dusky cove]

But the xindi loop itself is also a mess, it still remains a poor mans copy of the bajoran loop with far more grinding needed and far (s)lower payouts. Three months of double pulls later I'm still nowhere close to getting crit floor 5/5 despite also turning a ton of survey currency in. You can imagine my other favours aren't looking much better either. The silent loop is also still closed off to many players and I sure hope one of the QoL changes is only having the lower level reds spawning in silent systems from now on 😦

[rugged reef]

You’re funny “just them getting better” 😂

[hallow orbit]

True, telling them I'm not spending another penny generally gets me a response within the hour lol

[indigo tangle]

While I applaud and continue to applaud the sneak previews and better transparency towards new content:

Game design needs to start eating its own dogfood, and quickly, and stop designing by spreadsheet.

@heady moon - Has there been any progress towards a community-based UserVoice-type system to prioritize community feedback and content requests?

[finite otter]

That's just a weak argument. Plenty of people spend and are struggling. But Scopely doesn't care unless you spend enough to be a kraken.

[late pawn]

gotta assume it could happen.

[rugged reef]

I’ve assumed since I started playing, I’m done making an Azz of myself

[faint vessel]

they said years ago they prioritise the 1%.... its nothing new

[hallow orbit]

Eco said something about a player council, supposedly those members had already been selected and the system was being setup...4 months ago....nothing has been said about it since.

[late pawn]

I thought they already had a player council they ignored?

[rugged reef]

How much did they pay to get into the council?

[nova holly]

@drowsy parcel Hello
Can i get some of your time about something urgent?

[coarse phoenix]

Wasn't the player council the whale server?

[faint vessel]

TWD only got a player council when things got "sticky" for scopely

[hallow orbit]

lol good question, maybe its a council of 1?

[civic geyser]

More than bill gates has

[rugged reef]

SLB of how many packs you can buy?

[flint ruin]

“Improvement to comms” doesn’t mean “more talking on discord”…it means “meaningful changes in line with community feedback”.

An example would be the PvP banding…it’s not an “Improvement to comms” to be told “yeah that should be changed” and then nothing changes. That’s literally the opposite of improvement, lol.

So now that that community has been clear on PvP bands needing fixing (like, for years)…and the CM has agreed they need fixing…

…are they actually going to be fixed?

[heady moon]

Yeah.... but I still think the priority should be the xindi armadas first.

[hallow orbit]

chances are yeah its a whale group, based on the "feedback" they received on some events recently I would say thats probably accurate

[late pawn]

The irony of Scopely Pack Pricing is that they could make double or triple the money with a better pricing model.

[hallow orbit]

NO MORE ARMADAS!!!

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-evil-austin-powers-facebook-meme-gif-gif-23192880

[nova holly]

@heady moon can i get some help about something urgent? Lol

[rugged reef]

How much are you willing to pay?

[flint ruin]

That’s like bottom of the player experience priority list.

[indigo tangle]

This content was probably at the bottom end of the list of community wants, and somehow, it gets prioritized for implementation.

[timid mica]

Is there a trick to getting server transfers to work?
lvl 5, picking my server, ships recalled, it says it transfers, game re-loads and im back on OG server.

[nova holly]

Paid a lot already? 🤣

[brisk mesa]

i just did a ticket, on those bs unbeatable q hostiles, they respond quickly but said too bad, i said that why i dont spend anymore

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-my-beer-beer-beerfest-kreativcopy-oh-wait-gif-22291559

[heady moon]

Regarding the Xindi loop specifically?

[hallow orbit]

Keep in mind we're only seeing 1 piece of tomorrows puzzle

[faint vessel]

you know they'll add more now @hallow orbit

[hallow orbit]

lol

[coarse phoenix]

But it's only available to whales, which it makes it the top of scopelys priority list

[hallow orbit]

last count we had what, close to 40 different armada options now?

[rugged reef]

Pay more, they’ll get back to you later

[lone yew]

Well this arc announcement is going well for scopely

[dusky cove]

I disagree since the xindi loop is costing me, and many people like me, an absurd amount of time to keep running for very poor rewards. A lot of people can't even do the silent content or need to wait for hours for the highest level hostiles to respawn. There are easy fixes for this and it should be a higher priority than optional bonus sourcing which tbh could be solved easily by just doing the launches we get x4 for example so "fixing" the armadas shouldn't even take long.

[faint vessel]

when making suggestions its better to mention money or the thing you least want out of three choices

[indigo tangle]

All I see is a bigger Tritanium bill and a week of migraines.

[late pawn]

What do you mean unbeatable? I usually do all of the Q that I can for my Ship level, ops, officers.. etc. And then I just spend my bells each day for the daily. And don't attack anything, until I'm ready again

[brisk mesa]

i cant even hit ops lvl hostile to engage in the silent loop.

[heady moon]

I can try. Can you ping me?

[rugged reef]

Your pfp is pretty spot on for the roll out so far, and they haven’t even broken the game yet trying to implement it lmao

[brisk mesa]

i finished grade 2 and now i hit a hostile thats all crits after first gun, i cant last a round, players 3 or 4 ops higher barely beat it

[dusky cove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-pitchfork-riot-pitchforks-gif-13416816

[nova holly]

@heady moon sent you a PM message

[stray shard]

One of their other games, Marvel Strike Force, actually does this. They have the $99 packs, but then also $49.99, $19.99, $9.99, $4.99, $2.99, $1.99, $0.99 so they're no stranger.

[dusky cove]

Buy them now for only 100K lat each, tomorrow they'll cost 500k lat each due to short supply

[heady moon]

Silent hostiles are problematic, but I still think the xindi armadas should be the priority. Sourcing and rewards particularly.

[silver parcel]

yes

definitely

[hallow orbit]

Do you have a titan or cerritos? those boosts can help quite a bit on some of the tough to kill ones, I punched up today on 650m power ships at 150m power using both boosts.

[brisk mesa]

yes i did cerritos and exo buffs

[silver parcel]

one unc start a week, when you need 10 for your level to actually pull a box is bad. And only getting 200 rare directives per unc box, when you need 5000 rares to start one is even worse. And you need about 5 rares for your level to do a pull.

[hallow orbit]

Can you explain why? Theres very little on those xindi armada chests that can't be gotten so much faster with 1 or 2 regualr armadas or solos?

[dusky cove]

Do all launches and rewards x5 and it's likely fixed though vastly improving silents would also be very easy

[heady moon]

That's a good. Point, but I've heard way more feedback from players about the armadas than the silent hostiles. I'm open looking into what we can do for both. But I still think armadas need more improvement.

Gotta jump to a meeting.

[late pawn]

"Heard more feedback" because Whales are doing the Armadas

Level 35-55 can't touch them

[hallow orbit]

silent enemis sourcing for the artifacts should be the priority; even just adjusting the spawn rate of the hostiles to be like actian systems would be huge for people who can onyl kill the lower level hostiles.

[heady moon]

Ops 40s can...

[rugged reef]

@heady moon I genuinely hope that you’re taking notes of the things people are saying, I feel like Bek and Eco have been in these exact same situations before, but things still don’t seem to get better your communication matters but the devs need to change something now sooner than later

[heady moon]

Gotta jump to a meeting! Back in like 20!

[late pawn]

The Xindi Armadas? No. We can join in, sure.. But that's not nearly the same.

[proven bolt]

I had to stop doing silent hostiles today because the lower ones stopped spawning

[dusky cove]

Eh there was a lot of ruckus about silents, many people have just given up on them 🫤 . I've certainly seen the feedback on the armadas and I won't disagree they need to be tweaked but some fixes are very easy and can be done very fast.

[rugged reef]

Don’t worry the dumpster will still be on fire! 🙂

[silver parcel]

The issue is the whales aren't doing the armadas because even the whales recognize how bad it is at the moment

[brisk mesa]

but i cant even kill a hostile to collect a chest,

[late pawn]

The Xindi Armadas are not worth the effort, at all.

[faint vessel]

time to get in bed, the hospital drip painkillers are wearing off. i hope the tablets will work aswell

[humble orbit]

Same effort as FKR, and directives are f2p, even if slow. I don't see why you'd skip those.

[shy hamlet]

some people can do the silent loop without issues but no people can do the xindi armada loop without issues

[flint ruin]

Where in this channel have you heard players saying Xindi madas need to be a priority…?

[boreal oasis]

lol, i'm like 12 loops and 6 months from the xindi armadas

[humble orbit]

Hoard up a few weeks worth of directives, and alliance day there should get you progress with xindi armadas.

[dusky cove]

At ops 50 I get 250 launch credits a week so soon I can launch my first 😅

[late pawn]

lol

[silver parcel]

you can only horde 5 starts, 5 starts won't get you a pull if you're doing xindi armadas in your range

[finite otter]

But it's a smaller segment of the player base that has access to the Xindi armadas.

[late pawn]

Xindi armadas were poorly thought out.

[silver parcel]

and that's over a month for a start

and forget ever doing rares

[faint vessel]

it is a marketing company that couldn't communicate effectively lol

[humble orbit]

5 starts for each player in the group.

[high crow]

Obsisdian any news on Server 94 g5 keys?

[brisk mesa]

who plays that way, ive never seen it done.

[late pawn]

Poorly Thought Out is the name of Scopely's new Rock Band.

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laughing-cat-funny-gif-5670070

https://tenor.com/view/cat-guitar-gif-20719743

can I join?

[humble orbit]

My alliance will engage it the same way we treat expansion cubes: hoarding a bunch and splashing them all when there's momentum.

[faint vessel]

maybe that could be an idea for scopely - if they ever do charity staff events

[late pawn]

charity... lol

[rugged reef]

Someone ping me when hamsters back and the flames pick back up

[humble orbit]

There's a forced cadence of to use xindi armada starts though, letting your weekly claim decay, because you're at 5/5, seems like a waste.

[faint vessel]

state of the game, when their official discord is more interesting than the events ingame

they've literally done "hostile hunt" to death, and for the love of cheesus - no we dont want more mining

[flint ruin]

We used to do that in my alliance. But too many active players have left, and now most armadas go off half full, so we can’t do it anymore.

Activity level is way lower than it used to be.

[late pawn]

I have no issues with Hostile Hunt. The rewards suck, but it's super easy at least.

[faint vessel]

it's easy, but boring as heck

[late pawn]

Sure, but hostile hunt takes like 20 seconds. The Faction hunt is too grindy.

[faint vessel]

faction hunt at lower levels is peachy

[rugged reef]

Rip to our warriors fallen to scopelys greed and grinds

[late pawn]

I liked Faction Hunt when I had 2 hostile factions 🙂

[faint vessel]

25 mins each faction here 🙈 was about the same at ops 48

[hallow orbit]

Thats exactly it, people have given up on them, and most of the time its because they can't kill the higher level hostiles. I've tried to coordinate with the guys in my system bracket so that as I kill the 53s they can kill the 51s but its a stop gap measure and doesn't always work out

[late pawn]

It'd probably be that for me.. But Ops 44, and just getting my Kelvin up to high enough tier to hit higher level faction. Hostile is fast because I can hit level 49 Jem'h

[faint vessel]

9 hrs + to do this is boring however

[heady moon]

Ok this made me laugh.

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-returned-general-kirigan-ben-barnes-shadow-and-bone-im-back-gif-12199656944440281441

https://tenor.com/view/so-where-were-we-continue-carry-on-keep-going-gif-15626421

[rugged reef]

I’m here for you big ham

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-vacation-i-promise-ill-behave-rapunzel-gif-14253476

[humble orbit]

SH needs lower warp reqs. I want to try the harder set above me.

[slim sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-sandal-smack-beat-that-ass-come-here-im-gonna-hit-you-gif-16419086

[hallow orbit]

The only way our guys are getting pulls is sending voyagers to launch the 60s, thats not a solution thats a symptom of the problem; the level appropriate loot drops are unsustainable becasue you need a big to anchor it and guess who gets the largest proportion of the loot?

[heady moon]

What ops are you? I know that lower ops had a really hard time with the silent hostiles.

[proven bolt]

Would you be able to refine it?

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/subrote-star-trek-spock-harder-slap-gif-22007985

[silver parcel]

nailed it

[faint vessel]

😹

i blame jess !!

[late pawn]

Hopefully this meeting was about "How to listen to non-whales for a change."

[humble orbit]

Half of it, at least. The system still contains 57s. But I want to prepare for the next step up and knowing how I fare is useful information.

[late pawn]

I'm Ops 44, and can't kill any Silent's yet. Will try again after I tier the Kelvin at least 1 more time.

[heady moon]

That wasn't this meeting. But we did talk about you.

[late pawn]

Hopefully you mean me specifically! lol

[coarse phoenix]

The game is designed to suck your money, not to enjoy. The sooner you enlighten to this, the sooner you'll be at peace

[heady moon]

Yup. You specifically.

[silver parcel]

a 600m sanctus will get spanked by the ones over 57

[slim sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pair-of-kings-disney-disney-xd-as-seen-on-tv-merchandise-gif-20835821

[flint ruin]

Yep, that’s happening everywhere, and it’s the smart move given the state of things.

[hallow orbit]

Sadly its the only move.

[brisk mesa]

46

[flint ruin]

It’s a natural consequence of shifting the reward balance to the launch chest. I’ll happily send a ship to support a lower launching with whatever ship can reach + loot crew.

It does mean you’re screwed without at least a couple of bigs in your alliance, though…

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laughing-cat-funny-gif-5670070

[late pawn]

Formadas are nearly worthless without getting the Launch chest. Although that's kind of common with most of the Armadas. WAY more awards if they are the starter.

[heady moon]

And you're still having trouble in Aethera Nova? The level 41 system?

[heady moon]

And you're still having trouble in Aethera Nova? The level 41 system?

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-patrick-best-bad-influence-ever-gif-14172717

@slim sierra

[coarse phoenix]

Not everyone can afford $100 primes to make pve barely doable

[dusky cove]

yet the solution is easy, allow the previous tiers loot to be traded up at say a 4:1 ratio or whatever

[hallow orbit]

it would be a lot easier to swallow and accept if the directive pull was 1 per day the same way as bajoran faction, but these arne't solos so there is a bit of an inflated expectation about being able to run these things. which frankly is why we don't need more armadas lol

[late pawn]

I can crew up and see if I'm able to defeat. I'm still having trouble with Xindi 40 in Caelor, so I assume Silents will just destroy me.

[hallow orbit]

Yup, I've suggested that several times, or even to just remove the material grade on the loot drops entirely

[proven bolt]

Silent allows you to use crits. They are different beasts, so you may have a build that works. Phlox helps

[faint vessel]

or even the ferengi bank could charge a tax?

[silver parcel]

refinery should let you refine all the loot, regardless of your ops level

That's the main crux

[late pawn]

I do have Phlox. I'll give them a shot. Haven't gone back to them since launch tbh

[dusky cove]

yup plenty of ways to fix the silents but so far it's bee ignored

[heady moon]

That's a good point. I forgot about the ops locking that we do for the silent hostiles. Now understand that they should be a priority.

[coarse phoenix]

Because whale armadas (xindi) are the priority

[silver parcel]

can't use this

[hallow orbit]

crew wise Janeway, Doc, Tucker with cheerio boost has been the best performer so far I believe, I've seena lot of the lower 40s guys doing really well with Pike Moreau Phlox

[silver parcel]

despite the events basically forcing you to farm it

[dusky cove]

Yeah that's why I was pointing them out since the loot becomes obsolete once you tier up and if you can't beat the new tier then you're completely locked out.

[late pawn]

I'll try this. I don't have Tucker yet.

[heady moon]

Nevermind. At 46 you have to go to the Orinthus prime which is the 46 system

[proven bolt]

If you’ve got a strong enough augur, Severus crew works. But I’m ePicard eData, phlox

[late pawn]

I'm 44, the other guy is 46

[indigo tangle]

Do you make them in hamster size? 🤣

[heady moon]

Yup! Glad we had this conversation.

[proven bolt]

And 100% I use Cerritos

[brisk mesa]

unless im wrong i need rare parts drops from the 46s to collect a chest

[heady moon]

Sorry. At 44 you should be ok for the level 41 system...

[late pawn]

I'm about to try the 41 silents. Will see how badly I die.

[paper sand]

Bad influencer?👀😂🤣😂

[late pawn]

I still can't figure out the regular Xindi though, so maybe I'm an idiot. I've tried all suggested crews on my Kelvin, and it's still random on whether I do well or not. Sometimes I lose a ton of hull, other times less than a third. And still other times, I just die outright. No Crit crews.

[silver parcel]

delay favor, crit floor

[late pawn]

I have delay. Did not pay for Crit Floor yet.

[faint vessel]

bad influence? me ? 🤔 😹

[humble orbit]

Crit floor is also a favor.

[silver parcel]

you need both the delay favor and crit floor favor if you want to make any headway with the xindi

[proven bolt]

Xindi and crit are unfortunately largely rng. I had a day where my 12% natural crit chance would crit a third of the time

[silver parcel]

and no hugh until you max out the crit floor favor

[faint vessel]

hows things downunder mr scaley? 🫂

[silver parcel]

otherwise you're going to have a bad time

[paper sand]

I couldn't help it, I saw an opening & ran for it,Coach🖖😔🤣😂🤣

[late pawn]

Once I can afford the crit floor favor, I'll get it.

don't have enough credits

[quartz spoke]

@heady moon @humble orbit do u happen to know if the pvp aspect of the war room covers base raiding?

[humble orbit]

No idea, didn't pay that close of attention to everything mentioned.

[faint vessel]

choo chooo scaley 🙈 😹

[humble orbit]

I heard incursions, which was interesting, and I assumed robbing miners is in since that's the backbone of pvp. 😃

[dusky cove]

Thanks, I do prefer pointing out why I view things as a problem and solutions 🙂

[shy hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-relevant-mylittlepony-interests-gif-4506356

[humble orbit]

Base raiding is on the way out on my server for the most part. Seems so much rarer these days except during incursions.

[heady moon]

.Its appreciated. Being a CM, you tend to hear a lot about the latest issues like armadas. Getting reminders of things like the ops lock for silents is helpful!

[faint vessel]

oohh base raiding event similar to khans?? they could have server wide exos which speedup warp, as long as they dont muck it up for 4 months 🙈 😹

[boreal oasis]

f2p whip?

[brisk mesa]

@heady moon, here i just tried it,

[proven bolt]

I blame the advent of the Mona. Res seem to rain down now. I used to spend hours raiding a few billion. Now I pretty much just do incursions and see more in a day than I’d gotten in a year

[warm pivot]

looks familiar when i try it xD

[heavy osprey]

Wt…is that for a crew

[paper sand]

Had a rain bomb last week,8 inches in 24hours... Indian summer ended yesterday, 1st chilly autumn morning🖖😇

[humble orbit]

Makes sense, mine is giving too much rss. Makes me a juicy target during incursions, and I don't like that.

[brisk mesa]

silent hostile burn you

[heavy osprey]

Try pike, moreau, tucker/phloxx

[proven bolt]

Same. I can’t risk getting scooped even once. It would lose more points than I take in a dozen hits, so I gotten be wary now

[faint vessel]

ooooooh.... very moist....... you and them magpies...... ooof 8inches 🙈

[quartz spoke]

i mean base raiding is a form of pvp, just dont know if it is just ship vs ship or if ship vs base is included

[late pawn]

@heady moon

[paper sand]

I provide shelter from the storms🖖😎

[late pawn]

undertiered is mostly my problem currently.

[humble orbit]

Are you buffed in both runs?

[late pawn]

Exocomp: +200% Interceptor, +50% Damage, Cerritos Buff

[humble orbit]

Hugh BDA?

[lethal coral]

Not sure if it's been addressed/fixed yet but if not. Could we get a fix to the spawns of the lower level silents of each system first? Otherwise higher level players will just swarm 41s when that trade-up feature comes to the game.

[heady moon]

Don't think you want PMC against Silent hostiles. I THINK you want an iso crew but Im checking. Do you have Ent E Data?

[heavy osprey]

This is what i use against silent hostiles

[heady moon]

Yeah!

[indigo tangle]

Do you have Phlox?

[late pawn]

I don't have tucker. Is there a good replacement for Tucker?

[indigo tangle]

Try this.

TNG Picard [Captain]
TNG Beverly
Phlox or Trip Tucker

[heavy osprey]

Yes

[faint vessel]

khans event was fun; repair time reduced/warp was increased galaxy wide ....literally a raid event when the augments were launched

[proven bolt]

Phlox is waaaay better than Tucker

[brisk mesa]

lol, thats worse, i dont have 10 below slots and enty e

[heavy osprey]

You use what as bd officers?

[brisk mesa]

hold on i used the wrong officers, lol

[silver parcel]

pike moreau tucker, chen is bad in that combo, lol

[indigo tangle]

Use Hugh, Torres, and Doc/EMH underdeck.

This assumes you have the crit floor favor at 4/5 minimum. If not, Hugh is a liability.

[trail plover]

How do you fight the hammer class ships in waves and q trial

[late pawn]

I thought Crit Floor only mattered for Xindi not silent?

[indigo tangle]

You use a Nail... 🤣

[humble orbit]

You're thinking of xindi reptilians. These are SH.

[silver parcel]

if you mean the 700m power immortal battleships

you need a sanctus or another battle ship in the 500m range

[indigo tangle]

I thought the crit floor impacted SH also? Maybe not 🤔

[heavy osprey]

I am doing fine

[trail plover]

Hammer beats nail

[indigo tangle]

LOL, ok. I must've got confused with someone else 🤣

[proven bolt]

Silent don’t negate crits, so no impact there. They just crit 100% for 4 rounds and stack crit damage. And burn you

[graceful swift]

janeway/torres/doctor usually works best for the g4s

[late pawn]

Silents are still a no-go for me. Will try again after I tier up my Kelvin.

[proven bolt]

If you have a strong augur or Mona, try Severus with full synergy and Paris below decks.

[heavy osprey]

True

[late pawn]

I don't. I have a strong Ent.. but not strong enough for Silents.. And Kelvin. My Augur still needs 3 tiers, but I've kind of moved on.

[heavy osprey]

Your bd?

[proven bolt]

On Ent you can try Janeway/synergy/Kirk. Paris below decks, and support with Cerritos.

[late pawn]

I can try ent with that crew and full bd crew. Haven't in a bit.

[heavy osprey]

Data with a certain tier would also be helpful

Smth like this maybe

[proven bolt]

I did that and stacked Hugh, Tendi, all the damage crew and defense. Hopefully that gets you regular pulls

[humble orbit]

A strong ent sounds like a better plan than a T2 kelvin. Good luck.

[late pawn]

no Hugh yet. Would have had him with the Xlsb yesterday, but that was stacked against competing server .. couldn't get enough mats lol

[paper sand]

Dynamite beats rock?👀😂🤣😂

[late pawn]

Yeah, sometimes I get distracted by one having more power than the other.

[dusky cove]

Ah, fellow spacefarers, gather 'round as I regale you with tales of the latest baffling decision by the developers of Star Trek Fleet Command. As a seasoned Ferengi trader with an eye for profit and a tongue sharp enough to cut through duranium, I must say, I find myself scratching my lobes in disbelief at this latest addition: the War Room mechanic.

Now, let me set the scene for you. Imagine, if you will, a galaxy teeming with opportunities for trade, exploration, and diplomacy. A place where captains can roam the stars, forging alliances and building empires. Sounds like paradise, doesn't it? Well, hold onto your latinum bars, because the developers have decided to throw a spanner in the works with their latest update.

Enter the War Room, a feature so controversial it could make a Klingon diplomat balk. This new addition pits players against each other in a ruthless battle for supremacy. Gone are the days of peaceful coexistence and profitable trade agreements. Now, it's all about blasting your opponents into subspace dust and plundering their resources like a band of marauding pirates.

As a Ferengi, I've always believed in the power of negotiation over confrontation. After all, why fight when you can negotiate a mutually beneficial deal? But apparently, the developers didn't get the memo. Instead of expanding on the game's already rich trading mechanics, they've decided to focus on PvP content that most of the player base hates. Brilliant move, isn't it?

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm all for a bit of healthy competition now and then. But this War Room nonsense takes it to a whole new level. It's like the developers decided to throw a targ into a room full of tribbles and see what happens. Spoiler alert: it's chaos, pure chaos.

But hey, who am I to judge? Maybe there's a method to their madness. Perhaps they're trying to appeal to a different demographic, one that craves the adrenaline rush of battle more than the thrill of a lucrative trade deal. Or maybe they just enjoy watching their player base squirm as they try to make sense of this bewildering decision.

Regardless of the reasons behind it, one thing's for certain: the War Room mechanic has divided the player base like never before. Some applaud its inclusion, relishing the opportunity to test their mettle against other captains. Others, like myself, shake our heads in dismay, wondering why the developers would sabotage their own game in such a manner.

But fear not, fellow traders and explorers. Despite this setback, there's still plenty of profit to be made and adventures to be had in the vast reaches of space. So let's raise a glass of synthale to the brave souls who dare to venture into the War Room, and hope that one day, the developers come to their senses and remember what made Star Trek Fleet Command great in the first place: not senseless violence, but the spirit of cooperation and exploration that defines the Federation way.

[late pawn]

;tldr ... "I don't like the War Room, I think."

[humble orbit]

More like: chatGPT doesn't like a feature it's never tried, and basing the judgment off of incomplete information.

[broken flare]

😄

[late pawn]

sounds accurate enough. I, as a non-chatGPT human, don't know whether I will like war room either. But it is PVP, so the chances are slim.

[late elk]

I imagine it will be easy for alliances to just send warships to a system for an hour and everyone kill

For points

PvP is too easily gamed

But rev said usual OPC hunting and stuff would likely finish it…,,

So prob not even any need

[dusky cove]

it's more like "let's see what it generates now and how it holds up to what we'll see tomorrow". I could be pleasantly surprised though seeing previous pvp events and the past 3 arcs I don't expect to be.

[hot dove]

Exactly! Scopely have grand ideas for pvp and that it will drive sales, but players are too smart and will just cheese it for easy points.

[flat hill]

My money says it will be a sea of bubbles 😉

[proven bolt]

It’s a milestone, not a leaderboard. So probably just to support some life in dead servers

[flat hill]

Absolutely, find a friend, trade some kills and peace out

[late elk]

Ah well. More easy resources I won’t complain about

[bleak ruin]

More pvp introduced to farmville? Oh my stars. Thank you scopely!

[humble orbit]

Not betting it'll only be MSs. Pvp is exactly the kind of activity I'd expect to see a competitive SLB.

[late elk]

SMS treasury milestone with SLB alongside ?

Haha we’ll see 😆

[proven bolt]

*Feedback-Directive101Override channel reopens

[late pawn]

Janeway, Torres, Kirk, And a below deck of everyone I had.. Was able to get 4 kills. May have pulled 5 if I hadn't killed an Explorer hostile due to having no interceptor.

[dusky cove]

I'd be amazed if there wasn't a resource raided/hull damage or the like SLB, some assault ALB's woudn't surprise me either

[high crow]

Obsidian any news for g5 keys ons erver 94?. very much appreciate

[hot dove]

Wasnt there a hull damage one before that people just cheesed with Leslie and a sarco?

[dusky cove]

yup

[late elk]

Yeah

[proven bolt]

*Scopley arc runners begin furiously updating tomorrows slbs

[late elk]

I did that 😆

[opal meadow]

Guys I been attacked

Need help

[late elk]

Attack em back

[opal meadow]

How can I find someone

[late elk]

If they’re too big, run

You can’t. Except with voyager ship ability

[opal meadow]

It's level 13

[late elk]

Otherwise you gotta manually look

[opal meadow]

No 14

Also what's voyager

[late elk]

A ship you get later on

[opal meadow]

Voyager ship

[humble orbit]

Look in every system for a level 14 station, and click on it to see if it's the right one.

[opal meadow]

How do I obtain it

[late elk]

Just look around the early systems for his base

[late elk]

You can’t yet

lol

[humble orbit]

No you probably won't. Getting hit is part of the game. You were wanting to do the same thing yesterday.

Early on, it's difficult to find someone. It's better to just play the game, and outgrow them.

[bleak ruin]

Whats always baffled me in this community is the ppl complaining about pvp in a live time war game is a bit crazy imo. " Im going to become a postman" then files endless complaints to the post master for allowing dogs in peoples houses where i chose to work. Lmao nutso

[late elk]

SimplyiKhanic3391 has spoken!

https://tenor.com/view/god-is-good-all-the-time-gif-18210507414592999528

[dusk wraith]

100% pvp all day everyday when trying to do anything in game is stupid when a lvl 64 with a 4B power ship is hitting lvl 44 player with 2M power ships

#FixthePVPBrackets

[bleak ruin]

Im ops 45 and have no problems competing

Save plan prepare attack

[late pawn]

PVP isn't the problem.

But the way that its implemented overall, is.

[faint vessel]

the ones where players teamed up to cheat the leaderboards? 🤔 literally passing resources and dmg between themselves

[proven bolt]

It’s called strategy, Mark. It’s how smart players win the lb

[faint vessel]

if they cant win it by cash - they cheat lol

[proven bolt]

But yeah, it was pretty messed. I saw an alliancemate spend days working at it and his score got eclipsed in an hour by “collaborative efforts”

[boreal oasis]

there is very little in this game that requires you to pvp to get/achieve

[late pawn]

until now!

War Room incoming!

[proven bolt]

Is that an x-men crossover thing?

[pure yew]

i can tell you all are very new and didnt go through the day of "pvp"

where it was a ghost town

now it will be week of ghost town

[faint vessel]

pvp was killed by the amount of mining needed and roe

[rose shuttle]

👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻

[boreal oasis]

still waiting for any new iteration of TC

[faint vessel]

been playing almost 6 yrs and yup i remember that day

[late pawn]

to be fair.. Mining without RoE was the worst.

[faint vessel]

sorry to bring the mood down and mention roe 🙈

[late elk]

after a server merge, the new server we merged into doesnt do RoE because it "tells people how to play the game"

[faint vessel]

i'm definitely in for a whipping 🙈

[late elk]

so now we just have...basically whatever

I hated it at first but kinda on board with it now. It's kinda nice being able to do pretty much whatever you want

🤣

[late pawn]

Yeah, that's ridiculous. But I think RoE could be safely put into the game in a way that makes sense.

[slow isle]

https://tenor.com/view/strangelove-gif-4721969

[late pawn]

There are some on my server that would enjoy that, since they do it anyways. But just makes progress harder and slower for everyone and doesn't have to be.

[dusk wraith]

70-66, 65-61, 60-56, 55-51, 50-46, 45-41….etc #FixthePVPBrackets

[pure yew]

coincidence that servers with roe dont get merged as much

[late elk]

tell them that lmao

[pure yew]

[faint vessel]

imo, with the many instances ive been on - roe starts with good intentions. then the power hungry get involved and it literally turns into Q's court run by a council of karens

[pure yew]

whales dont fight each other

[late pawn]

Our ROE hasn't changed in years.

[half shell]

Great another loop another currency,

[faint vessel]

my last had judges and jury.... dealing out punishments. heaven only knows how scopely allow this - victimisation surely must go against the TOS?

[late elk]

cringe

[bitter temple]

hope scoring is based on survey damage.. cause miners about to get ripped apart

[faint vessel]

dont get me wrong, roe is good to a point.... but the only real rules in the game are the TOS

[pure yew]

tos isnt real

[hot dove]

Why fix brackets before a pvp arc when you can devote time to a ‘watch cringe video’ button

[half shell]

We've been at war on our server for 2 years straight roe is irrelevant, game is more fun without it anyway

[faint vessel]

yes i know, but its more legally binding than a court of karens 😹

[late pawn]

this is taking it too far. We just have the standard ROE.. if you're in an Alliance, you follow it or get kicked out. Otherwise, do whatever. Start your own alliance if you want.

[faint vessel]

it got to the point when the court of karens "banned" someone from joining an alliance for xyz days/months

[main quartz]

why do you think it's a war game?
Surely given the average time spent on activities in the game it would be classed as a mining simulator or a pve game, with pvp a distant 3rd.
arguably up until "potentially" this new arc, pvp has had minor impact on progression, apart from the indirect way it drives folks to buy packs.

[late pawn]

ha. Yeah, we've never had that. And Server 26 is pretty well established.

[faint vessel]

i wont say which instance it was. but its eu-based and about 4yrs old

even eu-139 wasnt that crazy....although we did have 3 different sets of roe at one time..... couldnt even fart without giving a 2 min warning

[late pawn]

Technically we have ROE set by each alliance.

[half shell]

No loot don't shoot. The end

Unless you got crosshairs

[late pawn]

And then if the commanders of those alliances have a disagreement, they can go pee on each other and determine if anyone cares.

[faint vessel]

the top 2 alliances did what they wanted separately -- then the onions minions had their own

[broken flare]

is it not?

[heady moon]

Not seeing any updates yet...

[late pawn]

Some of the stuff makes sense though.. Like not attacking in Token space except under certain conditions. If we had more access to tokens, then it's whatever. But they can get pretty limited.

@heady moon do they make you all play STFC, or like only if you're on a PIP.... as punishment.

[main quartz]

That's doesn't make it true that's just marketing. I'm curious to see if they have cracked the pvp problem. Or if this event like all previous ones will lead to 90% of the server turtling.

[dusk wraith]

roe is worthless on 76, we have a rouge alliance that clears token, upc, whatever they want. and it is run by a lvl 64

[heady moon]

I play. And I actually like the game. I understand a lot of the frustrations, but I play daily and in my down time.

[coarse phoenix]

How do you get downtime as the only CM? 😂

[late pawn]

I mean, I think regardless of how people sound on here, we actually LIKE the game, for the most part. 😉

[bitter temple]

watches Hammy closely to discover future game content

[broken flare]

yeah technical problems I agreed otherwise it is a warfare.

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/hiding-dont-talk-to-me-eating-my-lunch-abbott-elementary-abbott-elementary-gif-gif-25023219

[half shell]

Yo hammy is not eco lay off him

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-rest-for-the-wicked-huh-karlach-tiefling-no-time-for-sleep-gif-7183379736071449631

[bitter temple]

why's hammy super loading all his pvp crews?

[faint vessel]

oooh jesus wept, it's offering me beta again...

[heady moon]

I mean... theorectically, if I had downtime, I would play.

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-away-light-dark-charlies-angels-gif-16470786

[late elk]

scopely: here's a pvp event.
Players: If I cant do my dailies anymore, I'm out (literally saw in other channel)

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-laugh-laughing-lol-giggle-gif-5227250

[heady moon]

That's nice to hear! And I think that a lot of the frustration from players comes from the fact that they do like the game and are disappointed about some of the issues that occur.

[main quartz]

@heady moon please tell me Logan plays the game, that he had Leslie, and is aware of the Leslie cheese in pvp.

[bleak ruin]

Because folks banded together to make rules that exist outside the wargame? And pve progressions allows for better pvp. Yet you dont hear me telling yall to stop all the endless mining (pve)

[late elk]

they havent had an event that u can benefit from leslie in for ages

it's really, really, really not a big deal

[faint vessel]

and feeling historically that they're not heard or their ideas/feedback isnt taken on board let alone read

[late elk]

it is taken on board...and put into packs

[main quartz]

let not have the pvp event be a week long grind of two players slugging it our Sarco vs Sarco with Leslie as captain 😦

[heady moon]

Logan does play the game and was really helpful in bringing some of the QoL updates.

[coarse phoenix]

And yet nothing is done to fix the root issues, just dumping more content to cover up the core issues, which is the core issue

[half shell]

Have you seen ecos car? That's all you need to know about him

[faint vessel]

Austin Montego???

[late elk]

We need to see hammy's car

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-excited-let-me-see-gif-13624395

[heady moon]

I hope to change that. On the private server, I got pretty good at getting issues addressed. Maybe not overnight, but I've learned how to get issues fixed. Want to do the same here.

[main quartz]

players made those rules in response to the risk/reward structures Scopley design in game. So unless Scopely changes those dynamics there won't be a magic exodus of players from farmville to pvp.

[late elk]

im gonna save this

for later

🤭

[pure yew]

i love that grinding for progress for your own balance is called farmville

[faint vessel]

@heady moon cheers ears. this can only happen through the employees playing at various stages. maybe even cloning accounts of various levels, vs starting from scratch

[heady moon]

There should be some updates coming in a little bit that might help...

[pure yew]

else you should let your ships get blown up for the "grace of the game designed to make you spend" 🤣

[late elk]

🤣

[heady moon]

Fair. A lot of players on this server don't know me as well as the private server. I know I have to earn your trust.

[broken flare]

yeah Hammy is the best!

[heady moon]

That's not a nose pick! I was scratching my cheek!

[late elk]

Lol I know. I just love the pic

[frank loom]

Pre-pick

[late elk]

ROFL

[faint vessel]

you mean you're not really a hamster? post-flick maybe?

[pure yew]

• all the pvp officers are limited to spenders for the past 5 months

[frank loom]

I think I saw the pencil go up there too…

[late elk]

thats not true

[paper sand]

Got my humble support Hammy🖖😎... I like a straight shooter🖖😇

[late elk]

carol is in section 31 store

as are all the strike teams

[heady moon]

Agreed. I think I can represent players because I play so much.

[heady moon]

"pre-pick"?

[pure yew]

simpy forgot about how strike teams were implemented

🤣

[heady moon]

Post flick?!

[late elk]

he said last 5 months

xD

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pick-nose-what-up-hey-sup-gif-16489368

[heady moon]

It was a pen! And it didn't go anywhere!

[dusky cove]

One QoL update I'd love is refine/collect pulls. As ever more pulls/refines/.... get added to the game and collecting them gets slower it seems like I need 5-10 minutes a day just for that. Being able to toggle what to collect/buy and how often in a button would be great

[pure yew]

its all about that iso damage now 🤣

[faint vessel]

i stick with crayons..... iz safer. they taste mighty fine aswell

[coarse phoenix]

Do they fix the broken formation systems? Is this new arc gonna break waves(again)? Are silent hostiles gonna be reworked? Does CC on Saturdays get a rewards rework?

These are just some of the 1000s of questions/recommendations that the players have ASKED for and yet we get a pvp arc and a new building (and probably more primes).

[late elk]

i hope something does break

[heady moon]

I actually had a conversation with Rev about this very topic last week.

[late elk]

so we can get free elite tokens

🤣

[pure yew]

you dont have 500k elite tokens?

[paper sand]

Pre select crews?👀🤣😂

[late elk]

clearly im doing it wrong

[late pawn]

I don't know, everyone seems like the trusting bunch around here.

[pure yew]

hoarding is your friend

[faint vessel]

after going from zero comms to the lovely mr hamster.... it's been like night and day

[paper sand]

Unicorns & glittery rainbows

[half shell]

Garbage can Mc Toyota

@heady moon have a nice time on your vacation, I mean that sincerely.

[late elk]

The odd thing about scopely is that players are quite happy to be nickel and dimed if we also get good opportunities to unlock stuff over time etc. Like some balance. As DJ and Rev say, we know scopely gotta make money

but turning suggestions into packs is a prime (tm) example of how toxic the relationship has become in some respects - especially when event stores are the worst they’ve ever been

[faint vessel]

any unicorn icecream? 🤔 😹

[late pawn]

CMs are such good people that @lapis seal has it in Capital Letters that she is most definitely NOT A CM.

[heady moon]

Yup. Dunno if I've heard an update about formadas breaking or Silent Hostiles ( @dusky cove ) was really helpful in pointing out the latter still needs work. But I do know tht xindi armadas are being discussed.

A lot of players might not like a PvP arc, but I think there are others that do. And there are some improvements coming too.

[faint vessel]

i think she's missing it 🙈 😹

[rough wharf]

They starting an arc tomorrow?

[half shell]

Tbh she wasn't cm'ing when she was a cm

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-umm-wtf-da-fuq-wait-what-gif-18229906

[late elk]

DAVID

[heady moon]

Thanks! I'm actually kinda bummed and the timing I picked chose. I'm digging getting to know the peeps on Official and want to keep that momentum going.

[faint vessel]

do you think the community will ever be able to choose some of the events again ? @heady moon [

[late elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-david-annie-murphy-alexis-alexis-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20777206

[heady moon]

David and Alexa are my spirit animals.

[late elk]

Legit

And moira is my soul

😆

[dusky cove]

I think it's something a lot of players would appreciate since it takes up a lot of time that could be spent actually doing content 🙂

[main quartz]

You can't change the players that don't like pvp.
But there are a lot of us that would like pvp if it were more balanced. Going into a battle with a chance of winning, and changing up crews, doing research, building things to improve that is enjoyable. Splatting on the windshield of a player 10x you power, or who's spent $5000 on primes does make a fun experience. Which leads to less of us engaging.

[heady moon]

One of the big items we want to bring back is regular events here. I did Q&As and trivia on the private server and want to do more on Official.

[faint vessel]

i bet it'll get locked behind syndicate, just like the gift chests

[heady moon]

Would also love to see a "claim all" for ship upgrades if you have all the mats/parts.

[dusky cove]

I hope you've a nice vacation 🙂

[faint vessel]

we used to get the AMA's - they were quite interesting - as long as things were going well ingame.

we were also polled on what events we'd like to see as a community

[late pawn]

Primes should all be obtainable over time by putting in work. I'm ok with a window of exclusivity, but they need to be easier to get after a while

[dusky cove]

And it would be lovely if everything without a cooldown had a slider so for example we don't need to do 100x collect because we can only buy an item 1 by 1 in an event store when it has no cooldown

[pure yew]

they are it will just take you 20 years to get all of them eventually

🤣

[faint vessel]

sometimes the community get bored because they dont feel engaged in how the game progresses, random snap polls would be a great feature for the discord

[mild trout]

Can we fix the event timing, I don't think scopely realizes just how bothersome this is

[heady moon]

I hear you! There are player's windshields that I splatter on constantly if I leave my ships out too long. In the (distant) past we've added ships/crews that help to punch up, like the mantis, but PvP can still be pretty unbalanced.

[late elk]

It’s a p2w game

[faint vessel]

totally agree.... i remember having to tap the claim x1 button 85 times once, heck twice - had to do the same on my alt aswell

[late elk]

It’ll always be unbalanced

People need to accept that

But scopely could certainly help with brackets

[late pawn]

Doesn't mean we can't argue against it always being that way for everything.

[coarse phoenix]

Idc about balanced I just want the game to work

[late pawn]

You can actually make a lot more money when you work to balance P2W

[pure yew]

brackets hurts the top players and bores them so never happening

[late elk]

I mean more for events

[pure yew]

"i spent $600k and can only hit 5 people" lame

[coarse phoenix]

Now you got to treat stfc like a fulltime job to keep up with all the loops

[late pawn]

I guess being a 60 and hitting a 43 is fun for some people, but it's pretty lame / boring to me.

[faint vessel]

some days like today there is sweet "not much" to do, ,other days there is far too much todo - sometimes the events are "married" either. scopely never seem to find a happy medium

[hot dove]

“I spent $600k and i only want to hit people 10-15 lvls below me”. Super whales dont pvp other super whales.

[late pawn]

I want all events and loops to "matter" .. So people have to pick and choose which loops they do. A lot more variety in how people are built out after that.

[placid maple]

Guy did that in Diablo spent 100K to max only to find their was nothing to do in the game anymore think he sued for his money back 🤣

[faint vessel]

whale pvp costs them too much money lol

[late pawn]

What if Eclipse actually mattered again?! That would be neat.

[pure yew]

yeah alot of games are just focused on shareholder happiness not the hobby

[faint vessel]

maybe a disco that could summon/swap crew out? in lore there are crew transports and transwarp beaming...... or the disco-A could summon team mates ships? yup it'd mean lost sales from the prime, but the ability could be run by extra disco go-go juice [which you'd recoup the lost sales on]
the poor disco has truly been forgotten about apart from the IAP prime

[main quartz]

How about a choice.
Choice 1: The global event, the biggest rewards for winning, but also very good rewards for losing.
Choice 2: The lower league(s). A top 10 here give less rewards than losing the global, a top 5 is equal, top 3 is better.

Play with the numbers but basically the idea is that people who want to compete can choose a lower league with lower rewards, and compete for fun with a chance to win better.
If all you want is the rss, then go suicide vs the big guns.

[late pawn]

The Freebooter update was probably the best for "get rid of the grind"

[pure yew]

why im playing helldivers rn

[placid maple]

Freebooters only got rid of swarm grind. Still have FKR grind for the 40+ mats plus faction rep

[late elk]

I started up my time at sandrock again yesterday

😆😍

[pure yew]

can we get 1 year shields btw

i need em for something..

[late elk]

Just spend all your mats

Then it doesn’t matter

[paper sand]

& the cannon fodder now know there is no hope...not with multi tier primes costing thousands can there be any balance... f2p telephone only need new devices because games out grown last years capabilities since waves... wonder what the drop off will be after this patch ?🤔

[pine phoenix]

Seriously it's like scopley not listening the last 5 years to any feedback and is proud of it

[pure yew]

they got 4 billion

i wouldnt care either if i got 4 billion off addicts

[faint vessel]

what would you like them to do? continue to ignore this, or show positive steps that they are engaging with us and are slowly making improvements?

[pure yew]

• minus their probably 13 million in server costs

[pine phoenix]

What improved?

[paper sand]

Communication

[dusk wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-26089886

[pure yew]

oh nah obsidian has been great

[pine phoenix]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 the buy packs what now showing up in gc
Great communication

[faint vessel]

i said that all lvl1/2 systems were locked due to being overcapity to jess and eco... within 10 days the instance was fixed.... meaning i went from 100ish missions -2 months later at 750 missions. it's allowed me and others to naturally progress in game. i went from ops 15 to 26 in that time

[vast topaz]

they became sort of pointless though as every answer was "i'll check with devs" or "will get back to you on that" etc with ultimately no follow up. If you are going to do it again you need the knowledge to back up the questions asked on the spot

[pure yew]

but unfortunantly the arcs have been crap lol

[late pawn]

I was hoping for more with Enterprise. Love that series. It'll still be months before I can even think about Aquatics.

[pure yew]

got all the lower 50's begging for brackets in slbs ever since g6 came out

[late elk]

That’s all eco could ever say

‘Ill check’

😆

[pure yew]

wait thats actually a funny reminder

[coarse phoenix]

And they promoted him for it 🤷‍♂️

[paper sand]

🤣my titan is t1🤷‍♂️🤣😂🤣

[pure yew]

yall complain about brackets in slbs but pvp yall fear brackets

[late elk]

He works for them not us

[pure yew]

🤔

[late elk]

Who fears brackets?

People mentioned whales would hate it. That’s all I saw?

[late pawn]

I fear bracelets

[foggy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-friendship-day-friendship-day-friendshipday-friends-english-gif-13359343806295253342

[paper sand]

Rickets on the other hand...? At my age)😂🤣😂

[faint vessel]

or they could involve someone from liveops/product/dev who does know the answer. or maybe it could be an offline AMA - we submit a question on day 1 - it gets routed to the scopely staff with the knowledge.... worked on day 2.... day 3 the answers get posted [ maybe different timescales]

[pine phoenix]

He never was on our side, non of them are
He got promoted for keeping us quiet with sentence like, we will do better 🤣

[pure yew]

if the brackets were like they were in the lower 30-40's alot of different people would be winning officers which is negative income for scopely

so they extended levels to lessen winner numbers

[hot dove]

Biggest gaslighting cm we have ever had

[late elk]

I’d love to know who actuslly spends on slbs

Or how many players do

Bedsides whales who do whatever

Like do many people think oh I need that officer I’m gonna spend $400 of rss to get it

[pure yew]

when the brackets were smaller alot did its probably like less than 50 per server now

[late elk]

Which still would be useless in the 50s due to 60s lol

[late pawn]

There are no good packs to BUY resources. So seems like it would be silly to try real money spending. It just slows me down in other areas because I want to tier something and like "Oh, I should wait for an SLB for this... so I get a little more out of it, maybe."

[pure yew]

its just now they have to spend 1k to even hit top 10 now so less people are willing

[main quartz]

the psychology is I'm gonna spend $400 to get to my next ops/ship lvl target. The officer is an excuse to do it that week, rather than wait another week/month

[late elk]

Indeed they aren’t great

[pure yew]

and thats still one building

[late pawn]

I think the Events that make us wait to progress for fear of missing out when they pop up.. are extremely bad game design.

[pure yew]

our 66 had to spend $1200 just to upgrade one building btw

[main quartz]

or I'm gonna spend 200, then I'm invested so more likely to spend another 200 so my first is not wasted. Huge brackets which you know you can't win or even place in don't have the same incentive.

[faint vessel]

the game is built on FOMO - no one would rage spend anything otherwise

[late elk]

A guy in my alliance just bought like 10 packs to get to 60 from 59

[late pawn]

yeah, but this is backwards. Like I intentially don't tier my ships, level buildings etc. Because I know an event is coming up.

[warm shuttle]

Only 60s? My server has a 70, I can easily win as an ops 53, right? 🫠

[heady moon]

Actually, that's how I setup Q&As in the past. Players would submit questions in advance, I'd get some answers then we'd also have an ad hoc section where players can interact with the team. You can ask hard questions, but you'll have to be respectful.

[late pawn]

I don't want to do Q hostiles, because if I get to my Max for my current level... I won't have any when they suddenly throw in a Q event. If I level my forbidden tech, or collect my artifact, the events for those will pop up a day or two later.

[pure yew]

yeah 59 is ALOT of resources alot of people will be stuck there for atleast a year if they dont spend

[faint vessel]

good times. sounds so much more productive than how they've been ran here in the past. when reporting back could the Q&A answers be categorised ?

yes i'm a needy player 😹

[late elk]

Like how scopely respects players? ☺️

I think we can arrange that 🤭

[heady moon]

Gotta be nice or they won't come back and it will be business as usual. I think we can do better.

[coarse phoenix]

Can we review how feedback is established?

[bleak anchor]

@heady moon I sent you a DM when you get a chance to respond. Thank you!

[hot dove]

This was done with Panic and Eco, both refused to answer any questions, was always “i’ll check with the team”, or “i cant answer that right now”.
Then they refused to answer any question that they hadnt proof read.
Thats why they stopped, just became a waste of players time to even try and engage with them.

[pine phoenix]

You need to free yourself from the scop FOMO
I did it and game making more fun
Doesn't matter if you skip some events but become free to do what you want

[late elk]

And then CCs did engage with them in good faith

Scopely: here’s some packs

👀

But ah well why am I crying about toxic Mobile gaming practices

😆

[late pawn]

Should have an event that just collects what you've done from the last event. And shows your true place in the event.

[heady moon]

Its different when you ask a CM like myself than having a member of the team here. I don't know every aspect of the game, but members of GD or Liveops can speek in greater detail about their areas. You don't think it would help to bring them here?

[late elk]

Half the time the answers are obfuscatory anyway

[late pawn]

I see three "Devs" in the channel. Is that just for show?

[late elk]

If they engaged properly it might

[coarse phoenix]

I've never seen them say anything

[bleak anchor]

Just bring in Steve A'oki he knows all aspects of every part the game...says so in his commercial!

[pine phoenix]

Because that's not their real accounts

[heady moon]

Hmm. Good question. We do have devs that will jump in an chat with the community from time to time. But that probably hasn't happened very recently on Official...

[late elk]

The only dev I’ve ever seen speak is old man

Assuming he was an actual dev

[late pawn]

That's a little odd, I think. I get that's partly just how Discord works. But maybe they should only be marked as Devs if they're going to interact, I don't know. Maybe I'm just wrong.

[faint vessel]

aww bless OldMan is he still about? 🤔

[late elk]

Haven’t seen for ages

[faint vessel]

Leela was amazing, she's vanished aswell 😦

[heady moon]

Actually you bring up a good point. If they are visible, it should be for a reason. I'll see what I can do.

[late pawn]

Like @polar cliff even shows as Green. 🙂 So I'mma tag them.

[coarse phoenix]

And now the dev tag goes away 😂

[late elk]

Devs? What devs!? 😆

[faint vessel]

it could be very counterproductive for them to appear online when they're not. god knows how many inbox messages they get

[late elk]

Anyway it’s not the devs we need to talk to. It’s the business department 😆

[bitter temple]

Ok, so now we got ferangie.. and now klingon buildings. We need a Rom building!

[bleak anchor]

Devs as in Deviants? Yea we have loads here lol....as in developers....wishful thinking....the fact that you are here socializing @heady moon is far and away the most I've ever seen from an official account

[drowsy cypress]

Romulan building based on like, Espionage would be cool

[late pawn]

I've run a webgame, and been a dev, it's toxic to interact with the community in general. Everyone has an opinion or idea, and it becomes difficult to sift through good ones and try to talk the bad ones off the ledge. But there are ways to improve. And Scopely has the perfect vehicle to do it. Especially since people LOVE the IP.

[late elk]

https://tenor.com/view/whee-wow-wahoo-yah-yes-gif-523670879654954539

[pine phoenix]

I want hear what the quality department have to say or the testing department

[bleak anchor]

I agree with this, their targeted marketing scheme that keeps my packs at $100 because that's what I've bought before is insane

[late elk]

Testing department?

No no we don’t do that here

[coarse phoenix]

Is that the legendary private server I hear about?

[bleak anchor]

We are the crash test dummies

[heady moon]

Thanks. I want to be as visible as I can in chat. And I hope to help bring more of the team here to chat too...

[late pawn]

Yeah, the Game "Designers" not the actual "Developers" .. Which gets confused often.

[late elk]

I will say I’m 200% happy that scopely has added not one but now two prime currencies to loops

Getting ex borg up for dolamides has been my obsession for months now

😆

[bleak anchor]

Better to ask my question here then....I'm on the hunt for an "arena token" from the forgotten age....I'm wanting 100% explored rate on my systems and can't do it without Beta Paladoris and an Arena Token....any chance you could hook me up?

[late elk]

They are from a years ago arc

I believe

[late pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-money-gif-14124393094162907114

[bleak anchor]

Yupp that's why I have to ask to get one as it was before my time

[bleak anchor]

This dude likely got pink eye from this lol

[late elk]

Mine too and I’ve been here for like 3 years

[bleak anchor]

That bill has for sure been in a strippers booty

[bleak anchor]

~2 years for me

[bitter temple]

that's a new way to catch pink eye

[late pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-gif-5182109299625444068

[late elk]

@heady moon can I make one very earnest suggestion: can we please have more SLBs that require different mats sometimes with half decent rewards (even if just mats) (officer exp, building power).

[late pawn]

The sad thing is that Scopely really focuses on the Whales, but the whales will pay for anything. It's getting the casuals to spend the $5-10 a month or more that is where the REAL money is, when you have a large enough player base.

[late elk]

We don’t get them so much snymore

[valid warren]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-test-dummies-mmm-mmm-mmm-mmm-90s-music-mm-nom-nom-gif-16330968

[faint vessel]

surely the dev input to the community should only be when things are broken and they need help triaging? contact from the public at other times would surely be a distraction from their work? 🤔

[bitter temple]

I loved the Paklid event that required the spend but than gave us cool stuff. Would make a great way to offload surpluss and older materials

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/it-broke-broken-aladdin-robin-williams-funny-gif-14220248

[late pawn]

You definitely cannot base your direction of development on the community. But it doesn't hurt to listen for common complaints and adjust. Technically you never really need the actual DEVELOPERS here. You need the Business Analysts and some Game Designers.

[faint vessel]

least said soonest mended re: that system

[heady moon]

Coming from the private server, I don't think that's actually the case. While a lot of content is aimed at higher ops, a lot is targeted to ops 30s and 40s too.

[bleak anchor]

It's not broke I know whales who still have tokens to the system....there's just no way to get one now and I want my 100% systems explored dangit

[faint vessel]

and not much those lower than 30 😦 there seems to be a major disconnect from the arcs for those players... .

[late pawn]

It's not the targeting, it's the costs. $99.99 for many things. When I can go buy a Triple-A Game for $70. I get that some people will pay it, probably more than I think makes sense. But that's not the vast majority.

[heady moon]

Yeah. Maybe. But I think the focus on ops under 30 is streamlining the experience not targeting them with new content.

[late pawn]

The CHEAPEST thing is the $9.99 flash Battle Pass. And the ROI on that isn't great. The Best ROI is probably the $19.99 main BP and that's probably honestly $5 or $10 too much overall.

[bleak anchor]

Yea but what's the typical replay value of most triple A titles these days? Usually 1-2 play through and then it's GameStop bound for trade in

[drowsy cypress]

Yeah, the last few months the content for "30s and 40s" is only for people in that level range who have bought a lot of things, a free to play 40 can't kill Xindis or Silent Enemies or whatever

[heady moon]

Oh, you're talking about packs and not content.

[bitter temple]

You can't really compare a AAA one and done title with a live service game though

[faint vessel]

FOMO and to get them to progress? been playing this account for nearly 3 months, got to ops 26. ops 30 is still a long way off. the basic arc missions used to make me feel involved in the arc, even made me wanna try and get to the "juicy" stuff quicker. now i think - why bother, it's months away

[late pawn]

Yeah, overall tbh I think content has been fine. I generally enjoy all new content, even if it's not for ME yet.

[pure yew]

depends on the game AAA isnt much of a title anymore anyway due to those game studios focusing on microtransactions+ shareholder revenue

[drowsy cypress]

You can compare a AAA Live service game though, like you could have bought Overwatch or Valorant or something and be playing it with no additional cost 8 years later

[late pawn]

And Microtransactions are fine, when they're mostly cosmetic. Maybe a little bit performance enhancement.

[drowsy cypress]

Yeah, it's microtransactions vs actual direct Pay to Win

[heady moon]

I think thats a good perspective to have. It took me a while before I came around on the Voyager officers.