💬-events-feedback

[dark horizon]

Many won’t .. so that makes it not all

Read the fine print

[umbral mist]

With what? That they know many won't have fun?

[dark horizon]

I take it control is a lawyer

[halcyon fiber]

you cant cater to all, we already have 95% PVE Events

[brisk oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-wonderful-life-james-stewart-stanrd2020-gif-19235038

Teacher says every time Eco get s a 💩 emoji with his announcements, his bonus goes up.

[umbral mist]

Again your words have nothing to do with what I wrote

[hybrid marsh]

No more incursion well then we need a sms event for kill 10 lv 1 hostile get 20000000rare gas of every type. And 200000000 uc, and 2000000epic. And then the same for each crystal and ore.

[lyric lily]

If a constructive discussion can't be had; please stay out of each others feedback posts.
This channel is for everyone to leave feedback and disagreeing can also be expressed via emotes or leaving your own feedback.
Please, be respective of each other fella's.

[dark horizon]

So here’s an option that will determine and allow fun for all. For each PvP event have an pve event with exact same rewards. You can chose only one. And people can’t score in the pvp event except against someone else that chose the pvp event.

[languid tinsel]

"To all Commanders on the servers with an Infinite Incursions event currently running, we will be sending out rewards for some of the events that are being stopped short."
Rewards should be sent out to all that participated in the Incursion prep events this weekend also, not just live incursion servers... rss were spent twords an event that is no longer

[lyric lily]

@dark horizon Please mind the hostility in your posts; I've deleted the offending message. Again, please remain respectful towards other groups of players regardless of how you feel.

[dark horizon]

It was supposed to be a joke. But ok

[hybrid marsh]

I still think my idea is the best option to replace all losses

[hot bluff]

Many of us spent a ton of time prepping, strategizing, etc., etc. There should be some compensation. I want a space pony! 🐎

[halcyon turtle]

@wanton copper Obviously I'm not APAC but one of the things I think should be considered. You provided with the aptly named Cowards Refuge/Petaq pack a means of not being involved in the Incursion event.

However, if a player must still participate in Battlepass events which means they must serve ships up as fodder to the enemy server or miss out on Battlepass rewards/overflow rewards then it is not an OPT out.

Therefore with the battlepass - either this should be adjusted to account for incursion days with no BP event on the day of the incursion. Or, a chest with the full BP points for the day of the incursion should be given to players whether they complete the event or not.

This would give players not interested in Infinite Incursions (which considering the best comment I saw about this from an APAC player no less was "This is A Call To Arms Redux" - note a call to arms was almost universally hated by the players) a means of getting out of it.

And I say that as someone who looked forward to mixing it up with 157 on Wednesday

[lucid idol]

zero complaints about the compensation chest though! gg scopely

[sick mural]

@wanton copper can you please make the event brackets 30-33 and 34-36 and 37-39

[halcyon turtle]

TBH players 34 - 38 are pretty damn even - same access to the same ships

it's 39s who have the advantage

[toxic sinew]

But but I just made 39…..

That said, I agree

[sick mural]

a year ago?

[toxic sinew]

Last month

[sick mural]

with the new economics people spend less time camping at 39 but its still a thing..

[vagrant topaz]

Being level 29 I have no problem with the brackets

[sick mural]

dont go past 34 is all i can tell you

[narrow yoke]

real question: why is it so many bugs with just this game? Every other game i play is smooth and never any issues.

is it like, ran by interns?

[shell kettle]

Pvp in this game = who has the biggest wallet. The end. How is that fun? (unless you're the one spending 10k USD a month)

[halcyon turtle]

It's because it's being updated with new content every single month. Take Diablo Immortal (ok it's month 2) the battlepass is just more of the same events as month 1 the only difference is the rewards and that they unlocked a dungeon no one F2P can do yet.

Scopely release what is effectively a full DLC each and every month. That's a lot of work for a lot of people to do. I'm not shilling for them - I think I kind of very vocally gave them something to consider in this room tonight. But I understand it from the perspective of someone who worked at one stage as a freelance video game developer (quest design/writing)

[shrewd shale]

I m realty very disappointed and discouraged by this event .
We did a lot of preparation.
Made sure to be available

Event canceled and to appease to us a free gift of 10 shards new Pike and one ratevarnsda and some faction credits?

This is how we are rewarded?

[narrow yoke]

👆 is why everyone should be refunded

not all of us can make the reschedule so the effort we put in to planning it (porting, unneccesarily upgrading ships, blowing mats...) was wasted. but hey, here's 100 free parsteel

[toxic sinew]

On the scale of scopely gift chests, this wasn’t that bad

[narrow yoke]

thats all well and good but its been advertised and promoted for weeks. was there no way to beta test these features??

it feels like every month, WE are the guinea pigs

[shrewd shale]

It is not an adequate compensation, considering our efforts.

[halcyon turtle]

Not on this scale. You'd need 10,000 players to do that

and simulation of it working isn't the same as it actually working

I will credit Eco and Old Man with being fairly open that this was in part a test run

If there was a delay between say 20 servers getting content and the rest of the game getting said content then YES it could be "Beta tested" by a big enough community. However, we had this before... photon tokens and everyone hounded Scopely to give it now

How would players feel if 20 servers were 3 arcs ahead of you with all the bugs

but when you get the same content they got 3 months ago it's been refined?

how would players on those test servers feel?

[narrow yoke]

what's the point of the beta program then? and are you saying there are not multiple test servers?

[halcyon turtle]

there likely is multiple test bed servers that's not the point. We consider the APAC server region to be small. There's how many players in APAC? how many thousands of players?

You simply cannot test to that capacity

you either have an advanced beta test server group like I said of 20 servers (8 EU, 8 US, 4 APAC) that get all content months in advance of everyone else or you go with it live to the playerbase all at once

how would players feel if everything new coming out was known 3 months in advance?

no surprises, or mystery

no more hints from Rev or DJz

because why would they hint?

they'd simply get an account on an advance group server

[sacred light]

While I agree to most of what you write, I guess that scoring issues etc. are not depending on the amount of concurrent users. This seems to be a problem within the game mechanics.

[vagrant topaz]

All the prep spent, lat mats ect to get the tokens…

[halcyon turtle]

unknown to be honest, could be anything causing that. It theorectically could be the paired servers having a logging issue due to access/retrieval requests

could be a different issue

[primal hare]

Not to sound ungrateful for the gift chest but it's not even close to compensating for all the extra rss and Latinum that was spent in preparation for the event.

[narrow yoke]

releasing something that is not tested is beyond comprehension.

[halcyon turtle]

I don't know enough specifics about how it's established to speculate really on what caused that. I would suggest that is a @hollow violet specialism

[halcyon turtle]

the content will have been tested

[narrow yoke]

there were already indications of bugs within cross-server play with the XSLBs... so knowing that, why not fax it out before amp'ing everybody up for a pvp event?

[calm knot]

You guys received any comp gifts for the lag yet?

[halcyon turtle]

but testing with 100/200/300 scopely employees accessing 2 servers in the same geographical location isn't going to provide the same results as shoving thousands of players based on servers that could be in different geographical locations together

[sacred light]

Agree - I am not a programmer or anything near it. But I surely hope the next try will also start in APAC again… 😬

[primal hare]

Nope

[narrow yoke]

is this a server capability issue or a server programming issue? either way, invest some money into upgrading the servers or hiring better ppl.

top 5 google play game. theres money.

[sacred light]

There is not one server - this game is hosted on AWS (so… „cloud“)

[narrow yoke]

i understand that.

[sacred light]

So it is certainly a programming issue, not a capability problem (as AWS merely provides the infra)

[weak condor]

Yes…. But no.
This is a database bottleneck issue.

[halcyon turtle]

which would be what my gut feeling would say access/retrieval requests swamping the server dbs

there would have been an absolute tsunami of requests going through in the live situation

there's also this key point to remember when talking about testers: Testers don't play games like people who've been playing the game for 3 years or more do

we do things on muscle memory or instinct that testers rarely do

[weak condor]

Bar some extremely high end databases (sap Hana for example, basically things designed for big data), every db has a mechanism to prevent swamping. Basically if two clients do the same query at about the same time (milliseconds apart) the DB protects itself by only replying once since the duplicate query is probably an erroneous one.

[halcyon turtle]

like you put 300 testers in to an event and they're going to spread out and prolifigate through a server in it's entirity. However, you put the same situation in the hands of experienced players of the game - they're going to go for META

[halcyon turtle]

but eventually that can fail - a stack overflow and the resultant slow decline until it collapses and crashes

[weak condor]

And that’s where the AWS comes in - it funnels db queries through the game server, so from the DB’s POV it’s the same query, even tho it came from two clients it gets put forward by the same game server.

Ofc ICE, the difficulty with incursions is that it’s clients speaking with two game servers in parallel each speaking with two databases. So instead of N to 1 to 1 incursions is 2N to 2 to 2.

[mighty star]

You analyzed the traffic? or is this a guess?

[sacred light]

Well… that should have been considered at the design phase… and yes - this event is immensely complex from a comms and access point of view. But then again, it is not the first MMO on the planet…

[hybrid marsh]

As is said before a event session with enough of 234&5* mats in the amounts I suggested might come close to compensation. And
Make it easy like kill 10 lv 1 hostiles. To be fair as you already took at least that much from players.

[halcyon turtle]

your plane hasn't landed yet. How much is the wifi costing you?

[weak condor]

It’s an assumption based on being a dev for similar architectures 😅

[mighty star]

Why would I care - Company pays

[halcyon turtle]

which means that the bottlenecking comes about even sooner than it does when we're dealing with just 1 game server

[halcyon turtle]

I love the devil may care attitude 😂

[weak condor]

A hellovalot sooner since every client - per definition when speaking with two servers in parallel - generates twice the traffic, so twice the DB queries.

[weak condor]

And because the scoring is also a part - those two DB’s need to talk to each other as well 🙈

[hybrid marsh]

I don't see lost mats

I don't see lost res

Or any thing actually used

[weak condor]

They can’t refund that since they can’t track that.

[mighty star]

You imply that a server has indeed separated compute and separated cache+DB. Not necessarily the case.

[hybrid marsh]

So we spent on nothing built ships we didn't need for a event that don't exist.

And get nothing back

[weak condor]

True, but do you really think that IF they knew the difference and IF they have the correct infra we’d have these frankly ridiculous issues?
I mean, it’s scopes we’re talking about here. (No offense meant btw)

I mean, I even take the assumption they did it properly and run DB on a separate AWS then the compute. For all 8 know they’re the same system.

[mighty star]

I am also in this area (nothing to do with gaming) - and I see the difference dependent on what level the engineers are. Business guys often look at salary as a gating function. Totally wrong. A great engineer can be easily 10x the value of a mediocre one.

[vernal isle]

What people aren’t seeing here is, among all the issues that were getting a “it’ll be fixed on the fly” response, there was really one reason the event got pulled. Infinite raiding. People were finding out they could raid bases within their own server and gain resources while the raided base never lost resources.
Biggest players on the servers today were cracking and raiding each other with amalgams and quickly increasing their stockpiles needed for completely ridiculous builds and researches later.

That’s what eventually brought down the event. Can’t have players messing around with not needing packs for trillions of par costs.

[halcyon turtle]

@weak condor / @mighty star I mean my knowledge of game design comes from a storyline and quest design point of view I'm effectively a writer. But small team meant we all had an understanding of the database we operated on. That with my general knowledge of IT gives me insight in to this side of things but eventually I'm gonna get lost if we continue down this rabbit hole

[weak condor]

Can I type yet?

Hmm, previous message can’t get through.

[hybrid marsh]

Here's what I see. SCOPLEY just peed on us called it rain. When we complained they spit a drop of water on the ground snd said wash your self off. You stink. But we're happy to pee on you again.

[sick mural]

or perhaps not include the S word

[weak condor]

Oh 😅

Im just happy my name isn’t Walter, which for some reason is a censored word in game chat.

[mighty star]

OK, let me say something positive. I would expect that STFC worldwide represents an insane amount of load (we have that as a fact). To keep a service of that load within Uptime and performance SLAs wont be easy. Assuming that total customer count is still growing, then engineers might be at a point where they need to rearchitect certain services. All this with a relatively short planned maintenance window (not best industry - which would be zero downtime, but nevertheless short)

[halcyon turtle]

potentially due to "Walter Mitty"?

[sick mural]

on my alliance server i had to block the word noob

and the tr? commands because someone keeps turning on auto translate on everything he says

[weak condor]

Could be. Still, Walter is unhappy 🤣

[mighty star]

But all those functional defects are not acceptable. Scaling issues are better to justify

[halcyon turtle]

so as I understand it - (this is me helping non-technical minded folks out too) you're saying that with the short update windows between each arc they simply don't have the time required to do a proper re-design of how some of the database structure works. They'd need to close the game for what the players may call an unacceptable period of time?

[mighty star]

You can rearchitect with zero downtime. Amazon for instance has published articles about how to achieve that

[weak condor]

My hunch would be the issue isn’t the database structure, it’s the database itself. Which database, how it’s setup, what the bandwidth is etc.

[trail shale]

How much pollution from unused data cough event currency cough.....

[vernal isle]

And all the hoarding they now encourage as pretty much mandatory for anyone to get rewards with anymore.
But hey, just think, next month we will get another currency or five.

[weak condor]

Thats relatively little, comparatively speaking. It’s not a query which needs to run millions of times a minute, like hundreds of ships in a system interacting.

[trail shale]

True, but the database size from all the unused stuff probably isn't helping either.

Trimming fat like that is basic optimization

[weak condor]

We actually broke the system a few times by having too much ships in a system 😂

[compact cobalt]

I was wondering if your ISO rankings fall back to 0 if you participate in the Event?

[trail shale]

That I %100 believe. We almost had something similar with our last major server war

Framerate was soo bad I thought it was the graphic novel edition 😆

[weak condor]

On ours even takeovers sometimes are unplayable.

[halcyon turtle]

people should bear in mind - that the positional data in a system is a DB table too

[vagrant topaz]

They are running on AWS. It’s not that resources aren’t available, it’s that scopely doesn’t want to pay for it. AWS has all kinds of features that can make TC’s and incursions run smoothly.

[halcyon turtle]

tracking your movement is a DB process

so even before we start adding combat in

[ship id] - moves to grid location [X],[Y] - from grid location [X],[Y]

[weak condor]

I know that, that’s why I’m quite sure the db’s are the bottleneck

[halcyon turtle]

I was sharing that for people who aren't as clued up about how this works as yourself or @mighty star

So you put 300 ships in a system which I believe is still the cap on a system tracking that data is huge

[vagrant topaz]

A DB process on AWS. They are running DynamoDB for non-transactional processes (leaderboards etc), and hopefully Aurora global tables for transactional ones. These things scaly very rapidly and transparently but I doubt scopely is willing to paid for that.

[weak condor]

Probably - but imho Aurora’s inherent flaw is that in essence it’s SQL tech. Sap Hana for big data would be a better option in this use case.

Mind you it’s not about the response time when you compare both.
It just tends to take longer to build and fire off a SQL or Postgres query compared to a Hana one…

[grave rose]

I haven’t had great experiences with dynamodb and large loads from multiple users 😂

Pretty much the same results as seen

[weak condor]

Yeah. DynamoDB tends to get all gooey and sticky, even to the point of a whiteout when multiple users dump large loads.

I probably should have rephrased that

[vagrant topaz]

Latency is not only database related. It’s also a matter of infrastructure. For example you have placement groups for different instances. I am not sure how scopely designed that but anytime I would do an incursion I would use a cluster placement group, basically putting the instances on the same rack. That’s 10 Gbps of bandwidth between instances. Next to that they could use ELastic fiber adapter (EFA) for network traffic. It’s designed for high performance computing. My bet is that scopely is still using regular ENI. There are all kinds of tricks to boost performance but I don’t believe scopely is actively pursuing that.

[high aurora]

@wanton copper While I am certain it's a blow to you folks that Incursions was not able to continue, I will say that running Cosmic Cleanup and Para Bellum in it's place tomorrow is a very nice touch. We need to give you folks credit for thinking on your feet and providing something you know people like and enjoy in place of something that was anticipated.

[weak condor]

I do think we can all agree the issues the game currently faces are due to the backend infrastructure - whatever (speculation aside) it may be.
With these limitations, I would dare to offer a professional opinion that as long as their backend doesn’t undergo a severe upgrade, incursions are technically impossible.

[mighty star]

So you are thanking them that you can do cosmic cleanup tomorrow?

[high aurora]

As opposed to nothing or a broken event, yes

[vagrant topaz]

Agreed. But it’s very poor planning on scopely’s side in so many ways. Not just on infrastructure level but also in terms of testing. They hyped the incursions so much and the disappointment is a catastrophe. They could have seen this coming miles away.

[mighty star]

Offering you a position in Marketing

[high aurora]

There comes a point in time where you have to provide something positive. They know they screwed up, we know they screwed up. There are people behind the code. Let's not completely crap on them and give them a chance to reflect on it's failure and allow us to enjoy something that works.

[weak condor]

I know the complexities all too well - think high speed high volume personalised data printing where you need to feed 5gb a second to each CMYK printhead, of which the printer has a few each - and evidently you need to create each page on the fly based on big data on a server somewhere 😂

[mighty star]

You are right brother. 😘

[weak condor]

Well, contrary to some other channels here, we’re not crapping on them here. We’re trying to offer counsel on where the issues might be, each from our own area of expertise. We know the complexity involved.
We faced the same problems scopes has to figure out.
Some of us solved those.
We’re attempting to be constructive, not negative.

[vagrant topaz]

I feel like fundamentally it’s not just about server performance/ design but something more profound. They keep running into issues that could have been detected at the test phase already. Even for performance issues you could do some basic calculations before start developing anything to see if it’s feasible to run an incursion. Scopely keeps bumping their head.

[weak condor]

You don’t even need many people.
Just build a test system on some VMs running locally on underpowered systems.
That gives you an idea of which load the system breaks under.

[orchid tapir]

201 faced 188 for Infinite Incursions. That was a terrible matchup. One server recently had a 39 level cap raised while the other sent level 60 players to engage. These matchups should be revised.

[weak condor]

Auch 🤦‍♂️

[vernal heath]

@wanton copper another cosmic cleanup? Maybe run the borg event?? It’s been ages!!!

[lethal zodiac]

It was a terrible match up, and also a terrible event time for the region. Short events need to be available for the majority to participate, I think the start times and duration of these events need to be revised before being run again. It was a disappointing event, but more disappointing that I lost 3 hours of sleep competing only for the event to be pulled after I placed top ten in two leaderboards

[cerulean torrent]

If they have a cap of 300 ships in a system then surely they should have stress tested up to that limit for incursions, assuming integration and user testing was completed. I remember how slow things were in contested TCs on 151, surely someone at Scopely thought about it?

[lethal zodiac]

Honestly lag was not really an issue for me, probably because everyone was in bed 😂

I was surprised the performance was actually quite good given the wizardry in transferring servers

[weak condor]

Key reason they pulled it was probably a certain infinite raid bug 😂

[cerulean torrent]

Tbh Scopely are about 10 years behind the other realm invasion/server v server games. 😆

[mighty star]

When people are in bed, they have better latency? 😱 . Nobody ever told me that trick

[next ocean]

So the trick is to always play in a bed 🛏️?

[grave rose]

When this was announced most of the player base was calling out server loads and scoring issues…. All known… not sure how anyone at Scopley dev is able to not see this. This is where the anger is coming from. Issues that have not been addressed, band-aided or just ignored by content creation and marketing forcing dev to ignore the backlog in favor of keeping the money machine running

[tender gale]

July 12-13 - We realize you just burned tons of armada papers for our recent Incursion: Building Bonds event. But you loved it so much, we want you to do it more!

July 14-15 - We also realize you just burned all your mats and rss on Fleet Prep and HGWorf/Khan auction. But you know you love it, so we're giving you another spend event!

July 16-17 - Please see July 12-13. History likes to repeat. On auto-loop. Did we mention these were INFINITE incursions?

[vagrant topaz]

In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive (also known as "Starfleet General Order 1", "General Order 1", and the "non-interference directive") is a guiding principle of Starfleet that prohibits its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilizations

What i saw of Incursions last night was the total opposite of this.

[mighty star]

You mean to say that server 200 is underdeveloped, not yet discovered warp, is it?

[vagrant topaz]

Huh?

This type of event may be better suited to a Klingon arc...not a Federation one where peace is their goal

[mighty star]

The prime directive is limited to civilizations that have not discovered warp yet. That means you are saying that the server you were paired with is primitive. Which I would consider an insult 😂

I found that funny

[vagrant topaz]

Ummm....ok

[mighty star]

But I believe that is not what you meant to say. You are missing the narrative. I mean are we just fighting because we never spoke with each other, so we are easily manipulated to fight. That is a fair question

[vagrant topaz]

Im not fighting. Just tryin to understand 😂

Now i do since you explained it

[mighty star]

Best approach to start a war is to kill of all communication. Now thanks to separated servers we did not talk much in the past. In our servers case, Scopely though underestimated how quick we are in creating ties.

[vagrant topaz]

End of the day, we are all here out of love for ST and gaming

[mighty star]

Exactly

[vagrant topaz]

Incursions need MAJOR tweaks before being run again.
Scopely is slowly killing both of those for me

[mighty star]

Personally instead of cross server pvp events, I would have been already happy with the introduction of cross server worm holes through which someone can fly with a ship, such as the discovery. Would have given me much more

Given the player dynamics - I bet with you that this would have let to plenty of new player strategies and situations. STFC's strength was to create an empty canvas and let the server communities turn into something worth preserving. With Infinite Incursion my impression is that scopely forces us to act in a certain way, limiting our creativity

[vagrant topaz]

I just find they way they went about it...the scoring, sheilds being mucked around etc. Was totally the wrong approach for a Federation Arc.

[mighty star]

I agree. And there is zero rationale. I mean why do the shields not work?

[vagrant topaz]

Exactly. Same mechanic in place for over 3 years, and they go mess with it

Honestly feels like they are just spinning a big wheel for ideas this year.

Or using the same RNG as refinery/event rewards😂😂

[vivid mason]

The player POV in stfc is not Starfleet's.

[vagrant topaz]

How many Rom/Klingon arc have you seen??
How many Starfleet ships available vs Others??😂😂

[mighty star]

Yes annoying. Why does Federation have to dominate the universe?

And even when we say Federation - where is Vulcan culture a.s.o.

[vagrant topaz]

The fact they put an Invasion pvp event during a Fed arc, makes no sense to me is all

[mighty star]

Federation fighting the Federation.

Just sad

[subtle gorge]

@wanton copper Does Scopely know the 5 part SNW special missions aren’t counting completion? I did todays mission drop in the holodeck, they pay out but don’t update the event progress.

[vagrant topaz]

Usially waiting works

[umbral mist]

Did you notice the missions were called "Network Theory" and are not one of the mission sets listed in the event? I'm thinking that may be the reason this time, rather than than a scoring issue

[mighty star]

Yep, that is why I did not pick that mission up.

Also not thought through by scopely. They should mark missions that you are being expected to do from others

[umbral mist]

For me, I expect myself to do every mission... In the early days missions were what got me to play and do stuff... Now not so much, not sure why I play beyond wasting time and chatting with people I've gotten to know....

[small narwhal]

There’s sufficient diodes to get that as well as the other two that should score.

I was wondering earlier why we apparently got 50 extra

[mighty star]

2 or so arcs ago, I picked up a mission and that was a fatal mistake - did not allow me to max the - finish mission milestone event. I learned from that

[mighty star]

Diodes appear to remain valid beyond an arc?

Wonder how many currencies we have at this point 😂

[vagrant topaz]

Enuff

[mighty star]

Windows 2.0 introduced the trash can for throwing stuff you dont want. Scopely is not yet on Windows 2.0 level

[small narwhal]

At least month to month for snw, but they handed out enough this month for the “extra” side mission as well

[mighty star]

I'll wait - Those who hurry - often lose in this game

[small narwhal]

I admit I thought it was for the event as well and didn’t check until after finishing them 😂

[vagrant topaz]

With this incursion disaster you hope that something good comes out of it. Hopefully someone in the scopely office got REALLY mad, started yelling angrily, threw hamburgers against the wall, threatened to fire everyone if this keeps going like this. Either that or everybody just shrugged their shoulders and said “too bad, next time better”.

Time will tell.

[vagrant topaz]

You think it’s the devs? All management 😉 they’re not gonna fire themselves obviously

[vagrant topaz]

Does it make sense to refer to devs in my post? I don’t think so.

[vagrant topaz]

I don’t know, it’s generally management that fires people, like devs. Who else? 🤷‍♂️

That’s why I described these two scenario’s.

Yes and you were so very funny

I wasn’t trying to be funny. Lay off your ego.

Lol, what does my ego have to do with it?

Your need to correct me or mock me.

And that’s not funny. That’s childish

Sorry to hurt your ego

Oh I don’t need to mock you. You do a perfect job of that yourself as your posts don’t make any sense. But painting a picture involving threats to people’s jobs is just pretty darn rude. Bye now 👋

Right. Thanks for your useless contribution throughout this conversation. Close the door on your way out.

[unique hound]

Making sure the Alliance knows. 😂

[deft pier]

It was a fun idea.. getting to see another universe.
it was a shame it didnt work out well for a bunch of us..

But trial & error is always a thing..
All we can do to help, is to give constructive criticism or reports of what happened..
Cant fix something of dont know its a problem..

Someone above suggested a beta server.. that sounds like a good idea..
Let players port there to test out things..

[polar berry]

Mate, it's not that hard to simulate load without requiring additional players...

Pretty sure it has got to do something with that 400+ job openings they have on linkedin alone. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

[rancid glen]

I just woke up, where can i read the reports on what happened to make it go so horribly wrong?

[weak condor]

In short, lag, bugs - the most important bug being when raiding a base the rss in the base didn’t go down. The miners took full cargo, but the bases gave infinite rss.
Some people stuck on the wrong server without the possibility to go home.
(Summarising, ofc)

[rancid fractal]

I like the idea of invasion, and if you ever get it working, a weekend would be a much better day.

[rain pike]

sad sad sad.... deplete our directives for armadas, force us to use alot of RSS and Ore Crystal and gas for an event that gets cancelled only to follow it up with another event called fatal frontier that uses the exact same thing!?!?!??!?! I knew you guys were money-first thru infinity, but this is ridiculous. Oh and thanks for the cowards gift a well as the we royally screwed up, but ain't giving you nothing of great value in return. Maybe that should be the name of your next gift to us, "we want only your money, even though we suck at QA...Go Cyberpunk 2078!!!"... ... .... Be Better!

[empty star]

Messaged support saying after 100+ hostiles hit that my score didn't increase in HH SLB. Was told score was correct 3 DAYS LATER. Absolute bs how i can go 150+ ships without gaining any points

Then they had the cheek to close the conversation straight after

Absolute shambles of a CS team

[rain pike]

but are you surprised?

[misty pollen]

Hi,
Why is ‘Complete New Missions’ event only for L34+?

[empty star]

Nope

[misty pollen]

I didnt even realise there was a new mission until a L34 pointed it out to me.

[small narwhal]

There’s level cutoffs for complete missions events pretty much every month. The missions so far while they are recommended for 34+ are easy enough that even mid 20s should be able to do them though.

[fluid linden]

They could done this event a 1 month long 3 times a year, have a central tc zone with on either side normal space zones where each server port into (only those that want to participate, you port back and forth as much as you want to) that way they can stagger the amount of servers who have incursion event running at the same time, your home server carry’s on running as per usual with normal event but with takeovers suspended so that way it acts as a rest period for 1 month but then also gives everyone an incentive to get better zones during the 2 months you are back from incursion. In the incursion server you then have that one month period to run pvp events and the like and takeover battles towards the grand prize of the central 3* system that pay out winning server buffs for the following 2 months which make you want to participate…. This way the planning would be much more tactical. Do you each start at opposite sides and aim to meet for the final takeover battle or do be bold and start takeovers near each other and try to cut off the opposing side to take the 3* zone uncontested, if one server is stronger than the other with an obvious winner that’s still not a problem as the weaker server can go after the other 1* and 2* zones so that at the end of incursion each zone that each server has control of has a boost that they keep for the following 2 months so this way you have options and incentives, do you go for the 3* zone or do you maybe go for more of the lower zones for more and different type boosts…

[rain pike]

Stop it... you A_muppet. They might get ideas like yours and screw it up. i mean they've only known since... i dont know... FOREVER that lag is an issue, awards not being posted [insert issues identified in Scamly's last post here], etc etc etc. You suggestion of spreading the event out over time is great, just need to make the rewards commensurate to the amount of work to get them...just sayin😂

[fluid linden]

Even something simple like having the mines mining rate in the normal incursion space 5xfaster with a 3 day bonus refinery just before the end of incursion event but to only those who spent the whole month in incursion space to give the incentive to port over and participate

[manic estuary]

Making a building amalgam ms is usual scopely garbage

[nimble dragon]

Just gimme pike and una and we’ll call it even.

[heavy escarp]

@wanton copper no BP event today?

[polar berry]

Yup, same here.

[sonic perch]

Anyone seeing a Battlepass event for today yet?

[gloomy cedar]

Same here no BP event

[polar berry]

Nope 124 is without BP Event.

[high aurora]

So close Scopely….so close…..

[hybrid marsh]

You now have to buy packs to complete battle pass

[polar berry]

I was already wondering how they could mess up things even further...

[hybrid marsh]

It's not free to play

It's we want you $$$$

[sonic perch]

Just showed up on 9

[polar berry]

Hmm... apparently there's certain things I can't say here. How about you fire management of the company and we will waive the 'apologetic'-chest for once?

[hybrid marsh]

There's your ftp event if we ever get around to making it work....

[heavy escarp]

Better late than never

[hidden vessel]

got a question of the group has the incursion been canceled?

[toxic sinew]

YEs. Check the announcments

[hidden vessel]

thanks

[dense tapir]

Cosmic Cleanup - please put amalgam bps back in the store. It appears that once you have one it suddenly disappears. I had already starting spending tokens for a second one when this change was implemented.

[white bramble]

You have reached max collection for the time being. It will reset on a timer

Limit 13

[dense tapir]

The last 2 cosmics they were not there either

[white bramble]

Hmmm 🤔 I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed how the limit 13 works and once you claim all 13 it never shows up. I’ll ask 😊🖖

[dense tapir]

Thanks @white bramble - I had collected 46 bps via cosmic prior to this change and was looking forward to the second one

[subtle oracle]

deer fleet coomand team please put option to link player ID and account Id to the scopely account store webpage that way we can quickley link accounts with have mistake sawped for another account in stead of going tought this and that q to get account back to wear it should be. all so it will let us sine in and out of pc mobile easer

ops wrong place pleas move to feed back

[hexed barn]

I am very grateful that there are no incursions and hope to never see them. Thanks !

[white bramble]

They are delayed. Not removed

[spring pike]

Stop with all the armada events. Fix the game. For me you can cancel the arc. Pause the grandiose events run something mundane, faction hunt etc but get the game fixed and don't restart the grand plans until the game is stable. Your turning players away. If you just stop and fix the broken code those that have stayed are more likely to spend. Atm I've absolutely no desire to fund this game. Armada events all the while to try to force people to buy packs is NOT the way to keep customers. But I promise you this, I'll be buying £100 packs every week if you sort the game out!!

A very dis satisfied customer.

[vagrant topaz]

Fix game tired of wasting money on junk im going back to xboox series x and ps5 games to buy

Oh yeah more 50.00 30.00 20.00 packs tired of 99.99 only

[idle hazel]

@wanton copper <@&509691205798592532> i completely understand the filler events (armada event) based on the issues....but...we have a armada event and live ops removed the galatic armada pack? Marketing 101....create the need....then market the product. The need has been created...please have live ops put the galatic armada pack back in the store. Thanks in advance

[ionic trout]

Fix the game...new content is only to exacerbate the problem.

[high aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[manic estuary]

I'm only showing the old bp event no new one

[oblique ore]

I dont understand, why you incease the difficulty level for the snw event again. First it was last week 7 points for each hostile, what is already boring enough. Then yersterday 5 and now 3. Its tomorrow then 1? For this poor reward i had to kill 150 hostiles. Sorry no. I have better things to do with my time. If you want that the player buy the officers, make them cheaper and do not try to force them with boring events. By the way, this is a PvP / PvE game. What you try here, is only pay to win...
@wanton copper

[vagrant topaz]

How is grinding 150 hostiles of any level pay to win?

[oblique ore]

do you find grinding exiting? i am not. Its endless boring. Sorry i dont grind 150 hostiles for fun a day. Buts its only my personal opinion and i resepect if you have another.

[vagrant topaz]

Well it’s indeed your personal opinion and you are entitled to it, but an event that requires effort but is doable on lvl 1 hostiles is about the opposite of p2w

Worth of rewards notwithstanding

[white bramble]

Just 150? That’s not that bad. I do about 90 for most events

[vagrant topaz]

Yeah I know 😅 just borg grind, swarm and faction dailies put you there

[regal oxide]

Might be wrong but is there not usually an event along side this???

[white bramble]

If you have done the other one 10x then you will never see it again

[regal oxide]

Ah ok…..cheers

[solid lodge]

I keep getting all these events that have Una as someone to boost points yet has there been any way to actually get her at this point?

[grave rose]

Not unless you pay

[solid lodge]

But she has never appeared in my store, otherwise i would have unlocked her that way.

[grave rose]

Wow just noticed it’s only Ortegas and Uhura guess not

Won’t give them a dime for that anyways… barely can force myself to pay for BP nowadays used to spend at least $150 a month but with the bugs pvp balancing not for a while now until that’s all corrected

[quiet surge]

planned to stream todays events and we got a mining event and kill swarm witch took 5 min

witch didnt include using spok witch you would use in this event

[hybrid marsh]

All top 50 lv 39+ a lv 36( which I am) can't even get a 10% chance of competing if they spent $40000000000000000 on just that event.

Rigged event

[lament cipher]

I save up my away team xp for these events. I’m f2p and I’m in the top 10

[quiet surge]

whats that brown stuff on his helmet?

[near talon]

This game should be changed to farmvile. The server wars was going to finally make this game interesting again with players actually coming back to play. But then you had all the babies on here crying because they don't want to pvp all we did this year was farm and amardas! Its why so many servers are dying and hard.

Can you not listen to all the babies here and actually make the game interesting and do the pvp

Ps also can you invest in some decent servers to stop all this bs lag

[quiet surge]

Farmvile was p cool

[vagrant topaz]

Ehm… it got postponed because there were issues, not because anyone didn’t like the event.

[trail shale]

It got scrubbed because of issues.

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-silence-you-funny-foul-silence-shut-up-shut-up-clown-gif-23928870

[near talon]

Yes server has issue but that many people complaining 100% had something to do with it

[knotty bolt]

@wanton copper Can next month be a month where we don't have any new content and Scopely just focus on fixing as many bugs as possible such as lag, coding issues and the other problems that have been identified in the game? Please

[high aurora]

@wanton copper We'd love for you folks to break down the ticketed events by date again for the remainder of the month...pretty please

[minor oxide]

They were going through with it and Scopely showed once again that they can’t code and can’t test before going live. 0% to do with any whining 🍷

[proven hill]

Sheesh.... reality's calling, you're not keeping the couch after the divorce.

[vagrant topaz]

Missing half cerritos event

[edgy elk]

@wanton copper Can you please take a month to skip new content and fix the game? That would be very nice.

[eternal lintel]

Yes, please!!! Rerun a previous arc (lots of us have started playing since things like Separatists, Outlaw, Discovery, etc. ran) or popular events from more recent arcs. Or Borg. Use content you know WORKS, and take the time to fix all the stuff that chronically doesn’t. I’d rather have a rerun of some previous events, than new material that’s just an exercise in frustration.

[toxic sinew]

It can even all be a holodeck simulation, so it doesn’t mess up the overarching storyline

[strong anvil]

Where do you start the mission blood and honor

[gilded warren]

Re incursions point !! Server a was to invade server b then vica versa . Heard server b was able cross over to server a on incoming event. If its not as explained your feeding bs to all.

[eternal lintel]

Right. Plenty of ways to have fun w/ it. What's not fun is today. Not much in the way of events, hit the hostile cap and can't grind, no missions to do, so all that's left is mining. Joy.

[vagrant topaz]

What’s the point here? That you can invade either way irrespective of events? That’s long been known and confirmed (announced) by scopely

[brazen chasm]

Infinite Excursions.

You need to fix the lag. I think that's the sticking point here. Not sure what that is about exactly, but it needs sorting.

When you get that fixed, I suggest grouping the servers into 7, most populated to least populated regardless of location. Then randomise the opponent's within each group.

Then run excursions over a week, starting with the smallest server group to largest servers, which will help give time to wrinkle out any problems.

Each time Infinite Excursions runs, start the week on a different day, so it doesn't always run on the same day each time, thus giving opportunities to players who work at weekends and so on.

It's a great idea, and I think we were all looking forward to it, but most of us didn't have any illusions that there wouldn't be problems with lag, or some mechanic not being properly coded with scoring or some such the first time round.

And neither should you be. We've been telling you for a while now, it's time to fix that lag. Once and for all.

[noble citrus]

Save your away traits thats the only way worth scoring and what those folks in the top are pulling those numbers with

[viscid phoenix]

Unless you’re a massive hoarder or have unlimited funds, it’s best not to concern yourself too much with events like that, regardless of your Ops level

[eternal lintel]

SNW is some of the best Trek that’s been on TV in years. In Scopely’s defense, they didn’t have much access to the material when they had to design the game. That said, it would be a disservice to the game if officers like SNW Mbenga, Nurse Chappell, and Hemmer didn’t make it into the game, at least as lower deck officers. And pleeeeeaaasse bring an Enterprise skin and some of the amazing ships from the series!

[vagrant topaz]

This doesn’t seem to be the last SNW month

[manic estuary]

So is para bellum going to actually happen tomorrow?

[vagrant topaz]

Why wouldn’t it?

[manic estuary]

Because we already had one but I certainly hope you're right!

[eternal lintel]

I hope not!! So much potential still!

[vagrant topaz]

The one we had was extra

[vagrant topaz]

The show is absolutely stellar. Except episode 8(?) that was just weird 😂

[eternal lintel]

Which episode?

[vagrant topaz]

It’s hard to not give any spoilers and point to it accurately 😂

[eternal lintel]

Fairy tale?

[manic estuary]

All events showing "retrieving" even after restart

[high aurora]

I think we could really use a few more leaderboards……

[round bolt]

Guess todays challenges are shrug emoji 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt widget]

@round bolt its things like this that show scopely's competency. It's not like all the content creators have been mocking scopely for failures related to events for months... oh wait 😄

[elder fulcrum]

let's Retrive!

[unkempt widget]

https://tenor.com/view/enhance-gif-10953787

[polar berry]

Golden retrieving.

https://tenor.com/view/hello-dog-gif-19235451

[vestal gyro]

Totally normal dog

[round bolt]

Years ago Twitter needed to re-code their entire platform from Ruby on Rails to something more robust. I think we’re seeing a similar situation here.

[burnt willow]

Typical

[trail adder]

Can’t tell what to do , all events “RETRIEVING”! Ugh!

[elfin flicker]

US server

[unkempt widget]

@round bolt yeeeeeeep!

[elder fulcrum]

inept!

[fast shoal]

Events failing to load today just proves Rev's point from a couple days ago, it's really time to take a month or two off from new content and just fix\re-architect the underlying code that keeps breaking before it takes the whole game down

[vapid ocean]

Is Scopley capable of launching fully working events? Just once?
Asking for a friend

[high aurora]

#blameAWS

[edgy elk]

@wanton copper ecoThis is why the players had 0 faith that Incursions would work. Please fix the game.

[unkempt widget]

naaa, this is just shoddy work not aws

[hidden needle]

WORST ARC EVER!

[shy dome]

Show the events! All say retrieving

[elfin flicker]

Im gonna sto0 spending money on this game

[river merlin]

they would just increase the terrible rng if they tried

[worn shadow]

You people should be used to this now! Come back in a hour or 2.. 😤

[austere vigil]

This is my favorite event so far

[strong anchor]

Wow, Scopely, you’ve already ❌ gutted power gain from upgrading defense platforms so that they count as much as a parsteel generator. And yet in events you still continue to ❌ give half points for construction of defense platforms.

You really really really don’t want us to upgrade our base defenses. This is so disheartening

[worn shadow]

Alliance Help and Contribution

[pseudo stump]

Per the notes there is supposed to be a cipher event today. Not seeing it on server 52

[sage pecan]

Trait XP spending is not registering for Fatal Frontier..... @wanton copper

[hot bluff]

3 SLB's for avatars, really? okay, whatever

[hidden needle]

Like I said worst arc ever

[austere vigil]

I know 😉

[worn shadow]

Avatars will enhance your ship power someday.. LOL

[austere vigil]

Check the FortiGate, scopely. 🤣

[elder fulcrum]

If you don't have a decent battleship this Explorer HH event is just abomination.

[worn shadow]

Restarted the game and it is working now

[pseudo stump]

It doesn’t say trait xp will score

[sage pecan]

Mine did for a a minute, along with a lot of retrieving... perhaps just a display issue.

[pseudo stump]

Oh, yeah probably a display issue. Gain power events usually don’t score with trait xp

[fallow fox]

Revenge hostiles are not counting for the recruit Ortegas event. How many times are we going to have this issue this month?

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper Syndicate XP event player range is Operations levels 12-29?

[maiden patio]

Not on this sever, I’m up against everyone I’m lvl 29, please can we have more notification on events and calendar updated accordingly.

[tribal nimbus]

complete new missions, still havent seen the 3 side missions drop, time is running out where are they

[fierce belfry]

You pick them up in the holodeck.

I get that this will probably be a $5 lockbox again, but please do away with the 1* and 2*. I'm ops 36.

[twin whale]

Why is it an Interceptor pack, AGAIN?

[candid scaffold]

@wanton copper is it possible that on 1 day of a month all Events are working ? everyday the same issues.

[patent river]

Clearly that's a bounty hunter... /s

[candid scaffold]

explorer are explorer. then it should be clarified at the discription

[patent river]

Also maybe diff of passive vs active

We know what you were doin...

[candid scaffold]

and what i am doing ?

[young dragon]

Treasury rewards Lockbox.. anyone see anything wrong with this picture? @wanton copper ?

[white bramble]

What’s missing?

[high aurora]

It's interceptor focussed again?

[young dragon]

It's like the late night fast food establishment.. match the food with the picture

[white bramble]

Name is above picture

As it’s always been

[young dragon]

lolz. In my defence. I've had wine

[high aurora]

Would have probably gotten it this month if it was explorer focussed

[young dragon]

Gas for me in the pack (compared to the 13k Crystal above) is just over 7k. but G4 parts wise, yes it's all interceptors. nothing else. Surely there could be an option to choose here?

[wanton pewter]

5 SLBs all running simultaneously, just stop please 🙏

[young dragon]

I've given up with materials spend. If it isn't in my resource plan, not doing it

[heavy escarp]

Love that there is a "webstore Barclay recruit pack" in the multiphasic exchange, yet Barclay isn't one of the listed officer chances.

[wanton copper]

Hi Bron, just wanted to ask if this issue is still there after resetting the game?

[toxic sinew]

I had to reset twice to clear it up.

[quick pivot]

@wanton copper stop rolling out new stuff have a full on officers event and some old arcs for like two months and get this game fixed

[cerulean torrent]

This hostile hunt battleship vs explorer event is so boring. 🤦‍♂️

[vagrant topaz]

Yes I meant that one

[undone idol]

@wanton copper was scoring changed for this iteration of Hostile Hunt. Auto grinding has not scored today.
If it has then explanations as to why would be appreciated. The description does not say ATTACK and this is a QOL regression

[gilded warren]

Was boring 1st time battleships vs explorers i grinded then no interest now

[unkempt talon]

wait tomorrow will be interceptor V Battleships

[thin temple]

Concerning the treasury event, I also think we should be able to get the key for free when we get the points.

[tribal nimbus]

I have been watchhing the holodeck for them, they have not dropped

[mint cobalt]

I’d like to file a police report. Una Chin-Riley has gone missing. Any information on her whereabouts is appreciated.

[eternal lintel]

Please lift the 2000 hostile cap during grinding leaderboards like heavy hitter! Only 8 hours into that slb and I’ve already hit the cap. Yes, I know hostiles after that will still score for the event, but it’s super frustrating to keep hitting Borg probes, swarms, eclipse hostiles, etc. and not get cargo we desperately need from those hostiles for our ships!

[sterile yew]

Am I crazy or did the strange event token cost on the boxes go up? I swear at the start of the event it was 100 tokens and now I see 400 tokens per chest. Anyone else confirm?

[vagrant topaz]

It has always been 400. They haven't released much of it via events yet. Just from the music event

[sterile yew]

Okay thanks. I swear I had notifications saying I could buy the boxed with the 200 I had

[edgy elk]

Initially, I tried resetting the game several times without any changes. After a couple of hours the issue cleared.

[elfin lodge]

These new events where you have to kill a certain typ of ship with a certain type of ship looks very bad designed…

1. not every player build every ship, i am now ops49 and need crazy amout of point, i can never archiev…
2. very unfair for klingons, killing battleships is the most difficult thing, because of kinetic and enery dmg, so the effect of pmc or pmt is limited.
   Now take a ops49 klingon… the best interceptor he has access is a d4… the event is just undoable…

Very very bad design

[vagrant topaz]

If you dont have one of each at ops49....your doing something wrong

[elfin lodge]

How? So dual faction is a must? Or how is it possible to have 3 different shiptypes? I dont know any player who has alle 3 types of ships at g4 range

And if you skip the lvl50 epic, what everyone so far did on my Server, you only have access to 2 shiptypes even 50+

[swift linden]

THIS THIS THIS!!! The cap is BS anyway.. just fix it already

i actually think the event's arent'that bad at all. You choose ships, that has repercussions in every game. including events such as this.
Just grind through it. Not every event has to be completable in 5 minutes...

[tight pine]

Just take more than one ship and lower the hostiles lvl you are hitting. Ops 41 here and my d4 is only t2. That one and my sally did complete the event in around 15 minutes of hitting reds.

[elfin lodge]

If i lower the hostile lvl, i have to kill over 2000 hostiles, this cannot be the goal… only because of „wrong“ faction and bad game design?

Explorer->interceptor - easy, franklin A can do the job, independent of faction…
Battleship->explorer - quite easy, because pmc is too strong on this combo…
Interceptor->battleship - only doable if you have a decent interceptor, what is impossible for some faction…. Thats a very very very bad Design

Its like the old cloak event, where federation couldn’t take part because of no cloak…

[tight pine]

Are you single faction klingon? And to pour salt into the wound: ops 49 has a higher point number for the last milestone than ops 50 (from STFC.space) 🙈😅

[elfin lodge]

No, but i skiped the ops42 ship… but same issue for every klingon player… and i dont know any player who has g4 faction ships of 2 fraction… just too expensive

Most on server are romulan… they have pillum, frankA and augur… and can do all 3 events very very easy… its just not fair to design an event like this, if you have huge differences because of pmc in killenn different hostiles…

[elfin lodge]

Maybe this is the issue… if milestones are lower, grind would be an option… but ops49 milestones are way too high to grind with a d4…

[tight pine]

Looking at the numbers it is insane. Especially if you can’t run full SNW Pike crew. But do be fair: there are always extreme cases where events are brutal. Yours looks to be exactly that.

[elfin lodge]

Of corse i cant run the snw crew to get extra points, because the officer you need, you get from that broken event 🤣

[tight pine]

😅😅🤣🤣

[eternal lintel]

I understand they want a way to prevent people from using bots to grind. But for a lot of other players, grinding is one of the fun/relaxing parts of the game. Regardless, it’s dumb to run an event scored on how much critical damage you can do while grinding, and then limit how much we can grind.

[swift linden]

Exactly.. And if bots are the problem then they should go after that in a different way

[swift linden]

That does seem a bit much...

[swift linden]

Also, didn't they sort of admit that the cap was implemented to stop people from growing in rep to fast for the new ships because they weren't really ready? Well, they are now... so cut the cap please

[eternal lintel]

Or limit faction hostiles but not others like Borg probes, swarms, eclipse, etc., from which we need the cargo to build up our ships. Or drop the cap during events. I don't care. But it's dumb to run an event that's counter to the game mechanic.

[icy marsh]

Am I doing something wrong? I put Ortega's on left side officer, kill regular hostiles with a saladin and don't get anything. The description says however "OR kill a hostile with Ortega's"

[vagrant topaz]

It's poorly worded. Only a battleship vs explorers works

[elfin sentinel]

Is it Scopely's intent to not be allowed to autogrind the battleship vs explorer event? I only get points if I initiate the attack.

[vagrant topaz]

Again. Poorly worded

[undone idol]

You mean incorrectly worded if it’s the case. And of course no timely response from anyone about it

[vagrant topaz]

Thx grammar police for the tag 😆

[icy marsh]

i just reset my officers, moved them around and back. and now my saladin is getting points from kill anything. so...yeah its actually not restricted. just buggy

managed to finish the event with my saladin

[vagrant topaz]

Ah was it the left slot/right slot problem from last time?

[icy marsh]

i don't know, i started left, didn't work.. then i just reset a couple of times and seemed to work after

whatever, just buggy

[grave rose]

Home planets of the Goldens
Bring us your tennis balls 🎾

Just saying folks may have more faith in your ability to execute new things if obvious items like this were not the standard

[violet pulsar]

Hey, <@&509690795536941056>, feedback as rumours are circulating of Incursions being rescheduled for Monday: as an admiral, please don't do this to us on less than five days notice.

We had to get players to move bases ahead of the previous schedule because being in TC didn't make sense. Then we had to get players to move back to TC because Incursions was postponed.

Having to chase players to get these things done is a fair amount of time and energy for command teams who would very much like to have something left to play the game. Having to get people to move again just as we're finishing the previous second round of moves in a week, it's all very dig a hole, then fill in a hole, then repeat that again, all in a pretty short span.

We're at the height of summer, players are coming and going for vacation, trying to keep up with the game. Events that require extensive coordination require lead time. Please be thoughtful.

[patent river]

Whens the incursion prep? You got 18th thru 20th for it. 9th and 10th for prep... already off to a great start

[white bramble]

Huh?

[patent river]

In game announcement

[violet pulsar]

I think the answer is: prep already happened, it's only the invasions that have been rescheduled.

[white bramble]

Yep 👍🏻

[novel totem]

Make 1 or 2 of the systems beyond penumbra also level 40.

[violet pulsar]

Can't blame me for suggesting thoughtful. Can't blame me for not being the slightest bit surprised that it's not playing out like that.

[proven trench]

Or even 42/44

[wanton copper]

Really appreciate the feedback and I'm sorry that we weren't able to give quite as much time as you requested. We know many people are itching to try our Infinite Incursions and we wanted to find a balance for giving enough time to prep for the event and also not delay the release for everyone.

[woven swan]

Hahaha.

[gaunt torrent]

No one wants Incursion It's a waist of game time

[light trout]

I think it's safe to say that there are plenty of us out there that believe it would be far better to delay it indefinitely and instead focus on fixing all the broken things in the game. New content can wait.

Also, if you're for sure going to run them in 4 days, does that mean the second run will start on the previously scheduled time frame as well?

[reef verge]

This incursion idea would work pretty well I think, if PvP brackets were balanced properly.

I can't wait for the servers with a lot of G5 rare/epic's to just absolutely napalm an entire server either with only a few of them, or entirely without them.

[light trout]

Having it run during Battle Pass events, or during something like Latinum Rush, is just ridiculous. In the case of the Battle Pass, people paid good money to get those rewards, but Incursions will make it near impossible to complete that days event unless it was something like a Domination or Unity event. Grinding or mining will be next to impossible to do during something like Incursions. I also agree with you that the PvP banding is just ridiculous. While there are some tactics for dealing with overpowered ships that attack you, the average player doesn't know those tricks and simply gets wiped out by a ship that is orders of magnitude higher than they are. The only one that's fun for is the one with the overpowered ship in that scenario.

[reef verge]

not just ships, bases.

I'm getting my popcorn ready. It's going to be hilarious.

[gaunt torrent]

I find it funny how Eco talks about listing to feedback .... the feedback has been from the beginning that most players DO NOT want the Incursion event ... so Eco listens and Scopely runs a broken event that NO ONE wants... way to listen to the players Eco

[strong anchor]

Suddenly nothing is scoring points

Just started a few min ago

Or stopped, I should say. No Uhura points. No HH points.

[astral talon]

There’s been a lag spike in the past bit. My cloak credit took 5 mins to register

[rare dust]

No points for killing Swarms

[strong anchor]

Restarted game. No change

Ok finally got points to complete HH Uhura effect. But no points in the meta

[heavy escarp]

Someone please explain why Ortegas on the bridge scores bonus points for swarm kills. It's a wasted slot as her ability has nothing to do with killing interceptors.

[strong anchor]

Be glad you’re scoring points at all

[tribal nimbus]

same problem no points for swarm with ortega in bridge slot

[unreal osprey]

I'm not getting points for collecting ore and I paid for the ticketed event.

Also, my treasury is full and am not seeing the desealer rod pack in the store.

[indigo oracle]

@eco eventpoint stopped scoring on 163

[unreal osprey]

Same on server 56

[tribal nimbus]

84 is a nogo as well

[junior bluff]

not just for events, also dailies

[indigo oracle]

@wanton copper

[dense thorn]

My miner with 285K of G4 ore is going to beat the event scoring home. It's a 10min warp for me.

[sleek scroll]

Sever 14 all events have stopped scoring.

[gilded ocean]

Same on 65😑 awesome day for event scoring to stop when we have multiple hours of hostile grinding required for events

[gaunt torrent]

Nothing is working now just imagine how bad it's going to be with the Incursion event

[visual holly]

we dont have to imgine, people have already experienced it

[junior bluff]

also meaning we are losing the rewards for dailies as I wont be online to collect them when they come back online

[visual holly]

things seem lagged by multiple minutes if not longer and no way to tell if everything is getting counted

[tribal nimbus]

rewards for events as well for some

[heavy escarp]

I LOVE LAG!

[dense thorn]

Ok. Received points. Took 15 minutes to come through

[hasty python]

Points not calculating on battlepass

More lag

How can they say incursions are on when lag still exists for basic events … Jesus

[misty relic]

Nice job Scopely - whatever you clowns just did made daily events stop registering kills. I'm sure incursions will go just fine 🤣

[cerulean torrent]

@wanton copper points are lagging by around 15 minutes on EU 151. 🤦‍♂️

[gilded ocean]

Just the announcement of incursions broke the servers 😂

[royal cobalt]

I am very unhappy about the addition of Fatal Frontier at the last minute and the notification being only in discord and at the last minute. I was alliance hopping and was unexpectedly caught out. Now I am disqualified from all events. I already put in a ticket about this but I doubt anything would be done.

This month has been the worst. Lag. Rescheduled to work around a cancelled incursion. No ALBs until one was added without notice.

[sand flare]

Scopely for the win....

[vernal isle]

“It isn’t right until it’s Scopely Right”™️

[little plover]

@wanton copper How about fix the current bugs before making more

[tribal nimbus]

More free chests otw?

[eager garnet]

@wanton copper of i remember correctly,when incursion happening.. there wass incursion sms event too. Its said,i can get point even i lose pvp.
But, there's no points at all if i got killed. I tried different ships,still nothing🤦 and i just can get points when i kill the invaders,which is rarely. Because u pair my server against older server. Aaand scopely want to run that incurseion again,awesome. Im gonna hide again.

[crimson lake]

This game is such a cluster.... y'all keep throwing money at it... totally laughable.

[crimson lake]

Spent faction credit on officers... got nothing. I love this game, not.

[queen kindle]

They only count when used to promote officers. Buying recruit tokens from the faction stores doesn't score

[vagrant topaz]

all this would have not been necessary without the nonsensical shield suppression mechanic

[knotty bolt]

I agree. A shield should stay up regardless of your station's location. It should only come down if you the player engage in pvp and only then otherwise you run the risk of having coding issues like they did the first time.

[tame barn]

I realise this might be a novel idea but how about working on stability, consistency and reliability before adding more load in the form of events?

You have a captive audience, history proves people keep throwing money at this game

How about using some to make sure alerts work and you don't get dropped every few minutes?

I'd rather that than a one day event that will likely aggravate existing issues.

Even organising the events tab so it's not a mess of some events in folders, some not so you can find them.

BTW the on screen mission tracker is redundant, it would be more useful tracking dailies or events.

[vagrant topaz]

This is ridiculous. Not everyone builds every ship of every tier and maxes it before levelling up; basically for being “efficient” you get the finger. At least include is as a multiplier for it or something so we can chew 49s like in Cosmic Cleanup or something, or bridge officers that we’re actually likely to have.

[hidden needle]

Did the Amalgam Event DJ reported get nixed? <@&509691205798592532>

[queen kindle]

Not scheduled to run til tomorrow.

[vague mantle]

Can't wait for incursion myself. It's exciting to see another server.

I want new peeps to kill

[mighty star]

Armada XSLB: Not thought through point system, as it ignores individual power - only combined team power matters. Therefore the event favors most powerful alliances. It is therefore not a XSLB - Change it for next time 🙏

[wispy knot]

Anyone else finish the 5 Holodeck Missions and only have 15/25 pts for the Complete New Missions event?

[vagrant topaz]

you should be at 20/25 by now

[mighty star]

You mean this?

Not complaining in this case

[queen kindle]

Did you level to 50 recently?

[wispy knot]

Nope only lvl 38, in my alliance some have 20/25 and others 15/25

Looks like I should be able to get to 20/25 Fear Itself part 3 just showed up after a few reboots

[queen kindle]

There are two events of Complete New Missions, one for sub 50 and another for the higher ops players. They have different requirements so the 50+ players have a higher score potential during different time periods.

[mighty star]

I leveled from 49 to 51 in one hour recently 🤣

[thick locust]

? is there a event for completing the missions if ur below 50? noone in my alliance have that event

[queen kindle]

Yes, one of the ones shown a few lines above.

What server, and level are you?

[thick locust]

115 ops 25. i see that the event in news is ops 34+ but i have gotten missions from the holodeck for this arc

[queen kindle]

That's not unusual then.

[thick locust]

nah if the only missions that get an event is the 34+ it seems right

[distant bay]

These Syndicate Advancement brackets are bad. If it's by level, which I don't believe it is, I'm a 45 and the top of my bracket is 52s-57s. If it's by Syndicate level, I started at lvl 19 and I know at least one of the leaders in my bracket started at lvl 23. That's way too wide of a bracket...

[trim gazelle]

Treasury contents should be level relevant, and items actually used in-game. As a level 29 player, the contents are laughable. If these were 3* materials, this would have been an easy sale.

[vagrant topaz]

If you haven’t spent, your treasury isn’t great.

That’s just the way it is.

The 1* parts even feature on good treasury lockboxes, I wouldn’t focus on that.

[trim gazelle]

I've spent more than I'd like admit

[vagrant topaz]

How much is your treasury unlock?

[thin temple]

This treasury unlock thing is bogus. Why is it even a thing if we have to buy the key to open it. My suggestion is that if you get the points then the key 🔑 should be given. $99 for a treasury unlock only is horrible

[vagrant topaz]

It’s a pack, that’s marginally better value, and you get one free every six months.

In fact, marginally is unfair.

It’s loads better value than the equivalent pack.

[thin temple]

Yeah. Sorry thought it was an event.

[vagrant topaz]

Yeah, I think expectations could have been set better around it

But when you consider it to be just a better value pack, it makes more sense.

[vagrant topaz]

Well, in every announcement communication regarding it words as purchase and store were mentioned…

[vagrant topaz]

For parts of it, agreed. Early days it didn’t come across that way though, only the CCs were pushing the “paid” line

[vagrant topaz]

https://www.startrekfleetcommand.com/2022/03/15/patch-40-1-release-notes/ here’s the initial early day announcement 🙈

Good point well made.

However looking at the feature without reading the patch notes I can imagine that people would think it’s a grind-then-free thing. Even though it’s waaaay too good to be true. It’s probably exactly what they went for

[trim gazelle]

27.99

[vagrant topaz]

Yeah, if it was expensive it would have 3*.

Short of the additional queues, there ain’t much worth bothering with that isn’t the €100 packs

[dark pine]

Can we stop these XSLB events? The server we are paired with is much bigger and older than us, it’s pointless. There’s no competition and it’s basically funnelling rewards to them we can’t hope to get

[violet pulsar]

Agreed, shield suppression really upsets way too many things, and it’s not a one-time cost.

Scopely think people really want to vandalise another server because that’s peak pay-to-win, I think they keep missing that quality of life improvements need higher priority than new shiny, where this isn’t shiny for me. Whatever, your opinion is like, your opinion, man.

But screwing with existing mechanics for opt-outs? If you need to force people into it, a light is already flashing on that the premise isn’t so shiny for the vast majority of the player base.

[left marlin]

Scopely, why do you always have to be such a cheapskate when it comes to the lower tiers of rewards for any sort of Leaderboard? We need 800 Triumph Tokens for just one Triumph Token Chest. Just one pull!! Why can’t that be the minimum reward for the bottom most tier of a Leaderboard? Is it really gonna break the game? The majority of players still won’t get squat cuz they won’t finish in the top 25 or 50 or whatever for their bracket. For many of those who finished in the bottom tiers, those one or two hundred Triumph Tokens is all they’re likely to get from LB events. So then they’re gonna have no extra pulls from Triumph Chest to show for even trying to compete and ofc yet another useless currency to clutter up their Inventory. Show some common decency and sense Scopely! Make it so the minimum you get for placing in a LB is at least enough for one pull of a Token Chest. I don’t think that’s asking for too much. Thank you🖖

[misty pollen]

Daily hostiles cap makes me sad Scopley. 21 scouts before I noticed I wasn’t getting anything. 😢

It’s always Heavy Hitter when I hit the cap. Maybe you could raise it for those events that specifically encourage us to hit as many hostiles as possible?

Or give us an indicator when we hit the cap. Anyway, no point in me playing anymore tonight as last couple of hours was a bust. Sad times 😭

[gilded warren]

Thats ridiculous no chests

[worn needle]

Weird

[worn needle]

Maybe you should report as bug

[undone idol]

It’s not just the lower tier, top 5 of the final frontier slb only got 1/2 a chests worth. It’s ridiculous.

[timber maple]

Do non FKR Armada directives (like Eclipse) count for the FF : xSLB?

[iron pivot]

the fkr is the clue

[dapper fjord]

Nope. Only regular directives count.

[vagrant topaz]

It’s not a bug, there is a hostile grind limit of 2000 per day

[autumn wadi]

Anyone who finished top 50 in the qualifier not get the XSLB? (and vice versa)?

[eternal lintel]

Agreed - 1) raise or remove the cap during grind events, and 2) give us some kind of counter in our game display to let us see daily hostiles killed

[cosmic slate]

SWARMS are not working for either dailies or Recruit Uhura. Nor is the recruit SLB. @solemn turtle , @queen kindle @valid phoenix

[visual holly]

Event scoring is lagging 20 minutes at least right before events are ending and you think incursions are ready????? Really?

[trail shale]

"working as intended"

[undone raptor]

its amazing how hard scopely tries to make ppl stop playing the game.. how can they mess up events all the time... it wouldnt be a problem if that happened only once every cpl months but thats just embarassing

almost 24h into the xslb and still no event

great work

[cosmic slate]

Pretty sure it will be an Epic fail.

[steel lotus]

Even after fixing the event I still haven't been able to participate 🙃 how is this fair?

[undone raptor]

got the same response after 14h and no event 😂

[steel lotus]

Yeah a lot of my guys have it and don't and I'm like bruh armardas are my favorite and I can't even get a reward for the event😭😂

[undone raptor]

its really sad when you see the rewards for it.. thanks a lot scopely

maybe stop trying so hard to make ppl spend money and fix the game first

or have ppl with more than 2 braincells managing stuff.. idk what the issue is

[jagged trout]

@steel lotus got the exact same message

[steel lotus]

😦

Disappointed tbh

[languid ice]

Same here

[sage steeple]

I placed top 50 in the preceding event, and because they added in so many extras, I am at like 190th place 😂

What a clown show.

[icy marsh]

I really don't get the point of an event like build amalgram but then don't give me any oportunities to actually earn amalgram bp. Did they just expect me to be holding a nearly full set of amalgram ready to build just waiting for this event??

[halcyon fiber]

so according to the amalgam event, we dont have to upgrade any ships in the future incase some stupid event pops up

even better, dont build the ship at all

[vagrant topaz]

Sure you can build it - oops, meant to tag Kiri

It’s an SLB after all

[icy marsh]

It's not a slb. It's just a build and upgrade

[vagrant topaz]

Ah I see. My ops lvl doesn’t have that event, only the SLB

[brisk palm]

I'm punished now for upgrading mine :<

I need Rom too

the refine cooldown is three days too, so unless you had a stockpile saved for a unannounced event or an open wallet this ones a wash

[icy marsh]

It's a dumb setup. If you didn't have it...you build it and can't make the cooldown to hit the 2nd milestone.

If you did have it...why wouldn't it already be upgraded aside from lucky timing? This event makes no sense

[brisk palm]

a week long event with a heads up and it could work

only for those with one though

with the weekly cosmic clean up its easer to obtain however you can't do that in the two days for the event lol

[icy marsh]

Add in a weeklong plus run of cosmic cleanup to boot

[brisk palm]

every day lol

so you can have a chance of building one in that week lol

that would be 56 bps if they did it everyday

lol

[dark pine]

Why oh why was there a swarm kill event yesterday instead of today, I thought the intention was too reduce screen time? Makes no sense

[brisk palm]

swarm everyday

[white bramble]

Do people not do swarm daily’s every day? 👀

Or most days

[brisk palm]

swarm everyday

[undone raptor]

some dont know how to combine dailies and sms/events🤷🏻‍♂️

[white bramble]

I didn’t know this 😬

[dark pine]

Kind of funny that like 99% of the daily game content reflects like 1% of Star Trek canon.

[grave rose]

Just wanna thank APAC for being crash test dummies again! 😂 your sacrifice is appreciated

[steel lotus]

😂 facts

[white bramble]

Tbf they are the smallest region. EU and US have loads of servers 😬

[steel lotus]

If that's the case than us and eu will be terrible lag

[arctic crater]

Someone needs to stop writing stupid event suggestions on post-it notes and leaving them on the scopoly staff fridge!

[mighty star]

What means “server transfer server 0” ? Only entry in the ranking with that tag

[noble citrus]

So why is he in first and I'm in second?

[eternal lintel]

Because STFC doesn’t have a fair way of resolving ties 😡

[noble citrus]

Well that seems ridiculous...

[white bramble]

It’s either random or he scored after you

[noble citrus]

He scored after me

Which...all the more reason I should be first if anything

Sooooo i potentially lose out on 25 epic shards forrrrrrr...reasons?

[queen kindle]

The reason is that you're tied and the system assigns a winner randomly for ties. You can avoid this by not being tied.

[noble citrus]

Great answer 👍

[hot bluff]

Held off building my amalgam last week because you added a build sms, but missed it was ops 31 to 35 only. So basically it is the "screw you for not spending $$ when we wanted you to" event 😡

[frail bridge]

Even better I maybe two weeks off from having all the prints there's no way I'm spending $100 for 100 prints for some that I already have almost built stupid event they should have made it so you could have gotten some prints during the event somehow or have had smaller packs I don't think hardly anybody's going to complete that

@earnest harness why make. Events that cannot be completed with our spending. Especially you know so many people are probably super close to actually building it without a smaller packs would have been better than full unlock for 100. Don't you make the game playable for people that actually want to enjoy the game than just blow money especially with inflation going up and hunt money coming harder to come by

[patent river]

Disco event score is lagging? Currently not scoring.

[cedar sentinel]

BP points for borg probes not scoring

[halcyon turtle]

@wanton copper Server EU-156 is now over 20 mins of scoring lag in all events. I know you guys did a lot to work on incursions but if a single XSLB has led to this much lag, then what hope is there for incursions actually running successfully in both the APAC and US server region?

I want to have faith and positivity but let's face it, I can't when the overwhelming evidence indicates no matter what has been done in the past week the issues aren't resolved

[ivory heart]

Same on US servers @halcyon turtle

[knotty bolt]

@wanton copper Events not scoring on server 31. Please fix lag.

[iron pivot]

@wanton copper server195 event scoring is lagging

[tame barn]

Events aren't scoring - really filling me with confidence for Infinite Incursions

[vagrant topaz]

@Eco 193 scoring for dailies and events is lagging by up to 1 hour

[tawny hedge]

Server 83 extreme scoring lag

[iron pivot]

you had confidence in the first place? They can't even produce meaningful pvp with territory

[vagrant topaz]

Lately the best thing about this game has been logging out

[tame barn]

I started in deficit and now have even less

[iron pivot]

i don't need to log out - the game decides that i've played for my allotted 10 mins and dumps me to desktop

[vital dome]

24 hour PC exclusive crate isn't showing up either on top of event scoring not working. Daily missions are not scoring either so I can't get my loyalty coin 😭

[lyric quiver]

Points not registering server 8, lag

[frail bridge]

Swarms not counting for points

[strong anchor]

Lag right now?

[vagrant topaz]

More like a Strike. Lag at least works

[knotty bolt]

Forget about doing Incursions until Lag is fixed!!!

[steel lotus]

Same problem

[strong anchor]

Can’t keep servers running on a sleepy Sunday afternoon, probably not ready for multiple cross-server pvp events

[vagrant topaz]

Swarm dailies and both events done...no points registered yet

[strong anchor]

Dailies not updating

[steel lotus]

Not to mention the lack of cross server armarda event that was "fixed" but over a day later still nothing

[sonic robin]

How big of a disaster do you lot imagine the incursion events will be seeing how poorly the servers handled X-SLB servers or even just normal events the past few weeks?

[queen kindle]

In many ways the first run was successful, and now they get another shot at doing it right. We'll see how well it turns out very shortly.

[gilded warren]

Been daily which not normal

[sonic robin]

....I'm sorry but I'm unsure if we're playing the same game Cand1e

Even X-SLB had server 130 severely lagging with a large amount of disconnects, UI errors and at times over an hour of scoring lag

[queen kindle]

There were lots of problems, but if you only focused on them then you'll have missed the things that worked.

[gilded warren]

So many stuff ups worst arc ever

Qa testing stip continual non events thats the game at the moment

Stop

[sonic robin]

Yeah sorry but if my work computer has a BSOD every five minutes I won't be going "well at least my screen still turns on", I'd be asking the IT department if there was a botched update

[rapid arch]

we're the qa testers

[knotty bolt]

@queen kindle Of course we focus on the problems that never get fixed. That's what they Scopely need to know about and they need to fix them.

[gilded warren]

The players are and the mugs

[river merlin]

imagine if your car had malfunctions

oh wait theres lemon law for that

[ripe sierra]

I burned thru days of speedups to push thru a research to complete Fleet Development event. Coming up on a half hour with ZERO POINTS

[patent river]

Points for disco are comin thru...15 to 20 mins later...

[queen kindle]

I've seen reports of lag taking up over 45min to score.

[ripe sierra]

Theres never lag in taking rss tho

[trail shale]

45m? Man... tomorrow's gonna go great. Incursions kills on Monday will finally count come tuesday....

[queen kindle]

Tomorrow's the magic day, in the meantime, head over to #🕵-server-discord-links2 and see if your server needs to be added. Send me a perma link if so!

[gilded warren]

As were had covid, someone at scopely could log in remotely, check the status.
I am apac servwr, and zero confidence that tommorrow will run smoothly

[sonic robin]

Indeed and yet in the upcoming days scopely wants to unleash events which've been largely untested and will put a large amount of additional stress on the servers. Surely you can see why many of us are worried seeing scopely's abysmal quality assurance track record?

[queen kindle]

Absolutely, but rarely have they ever pulled an event like this for another go at it. They had a week, and we'll get to see the results very shortly.

[steel lotus]

US 87 https://discord.gg/AdGSw7TkwD

[sonic robin]

Is scopely aware of and actually doing anything about the feedback of subpar arcs coupled with the too frequent server issues? This event seems very counterintuitive and frankly risky seeing it could be another prime example of player feedback being ignored with results only scopely seems to be surprised about.

[gilded warren]

Btw thank you candle i realise your trying to help, so dont shoot the messenger people

[cosmic mirage]

@queen kindle From what I can see, the issue isn't that people are failing to notice the good stuff. It's that the good stuff isn't making much improvement on base quality of life, and the bad stuff is having a massive effect. Functioning in game without timely responses is like trying to function in life with a sense impaired; sure, you can get stuff done, but you can't tell if it's doing what you need it to, so you overextend yourself and the recovery is harder, or you overestimate your progress and don't realize you failed until it's too late to fix it. With a lot of people, particularly your Explorer-types, being at best uninterested in this event to begin with and at worst outright opposed to it, that turns it from "sure, whatever, I'll just turtle up and skip a day" into "the straw that broke the camel's back."

If I'm already feeling like I've just gone from being able to see in detail to having janky depth perception and most of the world being reduced to blurs of color, that's the last day I'm going to want to try to even be in the same building as a big wild party full of strangers, you know?

[sonic robin]

I'm aware wally, I'm just perplexed they're pushing this event through when the servers have been grinding to a halt so often lately even taking their desire to sell incursion packs into account

[gilded warren]

Spend money no ty...rl more important

Been many players knew incursions be chaos and voiced, there displeasure yet were still getting incursions mark 2

[strong anchor]

Moral: Do not leave any LB scoring to the last minute!

[latent steppe]

Where are the missions for this arc?? I haven't seen them and neither have other members of my alliance

[queen kindle]

Inside the holodeck.

[latent steppe]

Thanks, why don't they tell us that? 🙈🙈

[gilded warren]

No great red marker to tell you there the missions

[queen kindle]

Not yet, but maybe soon?

[gilded warren]

Remove them please, makes game more confusing when nothing there

[sonic robin]

Wasn't scrapping stations to upgrade an alliance starbase comparable to the stella mechanic next?

[queen kindle]

Once they get them working right we'll be notified for all the important things and perhaps glad that the teething is finished

I'd be on board with that idea, starting fresh with all this knowledge and experience would be fun

[hasty python]

Bugs bugs … no points are showing up. Already bad news for incursions if this can’t work on attacking swarms

Anyone feel like making a Las Vegas wager that incursions will fail again. 😎

[vagrant topaz]

Ok. 3 hours and still no daily points. This is Useless Scopely.

[crimson lake]

this game is useless.

[trim gazelle]

Is this entire event missing for everyone else?

[gilded warren]

Server 200 has it, scoring questionable

[steel lotus]

The fatal frontier event after the initial alb has been bugged, multiple people were supposed to get the next event the xslb(armarda) but have not.

Those who placed top 50 have not gotten it completely and those who placed outside top 50 have it.

Me personally have waited over 24 hours for this event that was "fixed" have not received it even though I qualified.

Some my alliance mates have it and some don't

[somber hinge]

you mean "once they throw it live", dont you? Getting it working is obviously no criteria.

same with server maintanance/improvements. worked out very well..

[broken lodge]

My Allinace no 18, no new event

[knotty bolt]

@wanton copper Here is a great idea leave shields alone for the Incursion events. The reason why it failed last time was because of coding errors and someone's bad idea to suppress shields. Game mechanics are simple a shield is a shield it stays up until timer runs out or the player attacks another player. Simple concept. If you suppress shields again there will be coding errors again because you are giving it an invalid command.

[steel lotus]

Sucks 🙃

[amber tinsel]

And the monkey named Scopeless has mounted to football to commence copulation...

Is that clean enough?

For what is actually happening?

[left marlin]

For goodness sake Scopely, no more Armada Leaderboards until you buff spawn rates for Deep Space Armadas to at least match those of lower space!! All you’re doing is frustrating the heck out of players on all the mature servers (ie: the ones that have collectively spent the most money)!! Again you’re disincentivizing players from buying Armada packs. This is probably the only part of STFC where it seems like Scopely has little interest in extracting as much money as possible from the players lol

[high aurora]

@wanton copper If things do not go well with launching incursions today, I would suggest the following: Forget shield suppression. Shield suppression itself puts more strain on the server as the server has that much more data to check and compute and cross check etc. It also funnels non-participants into fewer zones, causing potential increased lag. It seems that most of the failures last time all were around the shield suppression mechanic and the lag (raiding, scoring etc). It would be a shame for all of the hard work to be wasted due to this one mechanic which only serves to force people to move or forces them to participate. Let people stay where they are and not shield if they want to participate. Problem mostly solved 🙂

[north ledge]

@wanton copper I have seen that some other players have in store pack with Upgrade Amalgam (parts for Amalgam) based on tier of their Amalgam ship. As a lvl 38 player with T4 Amalgam, the only thing I can buy is Amalgam Complete Unlock pack, which is not that useful since I already have one. It seems strange as not offering the pack makes people unable to spend on it and give you money...
Based on that Amalgam pack, and the visible trend that game is trying to push people faster into 40's, was it ever considered to make packs specifically for upgrading the G3 Epic ships? That player who has Enterprise T4 would be able to buy for example Enterprise Upgrade - T4 pack which would have in it exactly the amount of resources and materials needed for upgrading Enterprise from T4 to T5, perhaps only buyable once for each tier per ship on account similar to the Prime research packs that also disappear after they are bought once? It may look like it would give a lot of resources but.. this is not G5, this is not G4, this is just a G3 ship that is needed to be able to progress to the G4 uncommon and rare ships..

[dapper fjord]

I would like to say that scopely is being completely unreasonable in the ops 36-39 bracket for fatal Frontier armada xslb. There are people who can go to deep space and score big points but there are people in the same bracket that cannot go to deep space and score big points. It's unbalanced in my honest opinion.

[heavy escarp]

Oh boy another cypher!

[astral coral]

@wanton copper Incursion have failed to start. No button and shields are still active

Button event just appeared. All good

And shields just dropped. Thanks for the quick fixes

[sonic robin]

when do we get the last holodeck mission for the monthly?

[white bramble]

Some point between now and event end

[sonic robin]

Seems a bit silly to not just drop them at the same time

[heavy escarp]

No second clue for Cypher and first clue point didn't count toward meta in the progression. Likely lag, but anyone else?

[little plover]

Horrendous lag on 195 server totally unplayable

[boreal dirge]

Amazing lag on 196 durijng incursions

mining event for battle pass during incursions genius

[toxic sinew]

Mining battlepass tends to line up with Lat Rush days. On non-incursion weeks, it's nice to have them synced.

[astral coral]

Anyone else not seeing scoring updates for Incursions open pvp system? 195

[queen kindle]

What level are you? what server are you from? on? and can you post a pic of a battle status report from your inbox?

[astral coral]

195, Yoruba open system. Ops 41. Losses not counting, only wins.

In the All Out Defense event

[olive depot]

Seriously? I have the amalgam T2, no spare parts to buy in store and have an sms event to build obtain and build an amalgam - do I need two of these things?

[little plover]

@eco invading players the base auto repair bug is still happening........ Some easy bases can't be cracked ...

[queen kindle]

Can't edit in a tag.

[north ledge]

I believe the SMS is only for players 31-35? For me, there is only SLB, which only scores for upgrading parts and tiering:

[toxic sinew]

@wanton copper

[north ledge]

So unlocking another Amalgam would not do anything for the SLB, and the upgrade pack is not available:

[hidden needle]

Do we really need another SLB that comes down to who spends the most money

[wanton copper]

Could you give more info on this? Such as a screenshot of the base?

You can DM me please

[icy marsh]

Why is augur not a ship to kill? I died to one and got zero points. Wtf

[gleaming cosmos]

Losses aren’t counting for points

[icy marsh]

Is that intentional or another scopely programming expertise?

[gleaming cosmos]

Not working. As intended

[north ledge]

I am not planning to buy the pack. But. If others have the option to buy such a pack, I would like to have same option and then I can decide if I want to buy it or not. As it is now, I do not have the option, so if I wanted to spend to get Rom (whom I already unlocked and he is amazing officer to raid with), I would not be able to compete with those that have the option.

[wanton copper]

Are we sure this person isn't auto repairing? This is the only report I've seen of this

[hidden needle]

To my understanding no one has the option to buy Amalgam upgrade parts.... I know its not available at my lvl or on my server. Have you heard differently?

[digital forge]

It is available to those level 39 and up on our server. I am ops 37 and dont see it, but alliance mates that are 39 have the option.

[hidden needle]

Interesting... do those with the ability to buy parts already have an amalgam or did they just get one cos of this event?

[digital forge]

They had one already

As did I, which is why it was strange to level lock those upgrade parts to such a high ops level. Scopely usually wants money 🙂

[north ledge]

That would explain it, as the screenshot is from ops 42 player:

[hidden needle]

Maybe it has something to do with the current tier of your amalgam?

Just speculating... but that is an unfair avantage

[north ledge]

However, why are people with ops 39 who can buy the pack in same bracket as 38 that cannot buy the pack? 😄

[digital forge]

Not sure, we have folks with different tiers that see the pack. Yeah, 37 is in the same bracket as 39 and cannot see the pack. Strange

[hidden needle]

@queen kindle can one of the moderators send this up so it is looked into please

[queen kindle]

I escalated that yesterday, but will note it again.

[hidden needle]

thanks a bunch u rock

[olive depot]

I have both - I’m 33

Point is some said can buy parts in store - not on my store tho - can only buy full unlock package

[queen kindle]

What tiers are your amalgams and what level are you?

[digital forge]

I do not see the upgrade pack either. I am ops 37 and my amalgam is T4

[queen kindle]

Is that the only amalgam you own?

@digital forge

[north ledge]

Ops 38, amalgam T4

[digital forge]

Yes one amalgam. I had it before the SLB started

[queen kindle]

Thanks, just forwarding information.

[toxic sinew]

For reference, I do have a pack available (Amalgam upgrade parts - T4). Ops 39, Amalgam Tier 3. Don't know if that helps track things down.

And yes, only the 1 amalgam.

[digital forge]

Thanks Thog, I think it does as it appears to be simply ops level locked since your amalgam tier isnt above ours.

Strange thing to ops level lock that when folks are in the same SLB. Not that I would place anyway 🙂

[toxic sinew]

Might be amalgam tier locked since mine is only tier 3

[digital forge]

Kev sees the pack and his is T6

[toxic sinew]

I'm guessing his pack is parts - t8 or something.

[digital forge]

Maybe Tier 4 is just "special" 🙂

[toxic sinew]

Does it start needing 4* mats after T4? If so, I can see the next upgrade pack not being available until ops 40

[digital forge]

No it doesnt.

[meager cave]

Not until T6 according to https://stfc.space

[steep osprey]

Cam I just feedback that whoever designed this event should probably have a full lobotomy?

This is perhaps the worst event in history

And that's saying something with the track record of this game

[queen kindle]

I've heard back, and as you've surmised, the amalgam upgrade packs are available for your tiers, though ops level is also used in their availability. If you need upgrade parts and they aren't available, then you'll need to level until they are. @digital forge

[digital forge]

Um, can you give them feedback that I should not be in the SLB with ops 39 folks then? I cannot complete at all.

Its silly to have an SLB where you are guaranteed to lose.

[queen kindle]

That's feedback you can leave directly with Eco. In general though, it's normal for some players in your segment to have advantages.

[digital forge]

I get that, but this advantage is that I cannot even attempt to place.

[north ledge]

I know you are a messenger so I am not going to complain, just.. what JimPl wrote. It feels wrong that people are mixed in same bracket. Kinda like the XSLB for armadas where I as lvl 38 had the advantage as 36-39 was bracket, but only 38-39 can go to DS.

[digital forge]

Even with money, lol

[queen kindle]

This would be an availability advantage, if they were to spend, but you also can spend to catch up and then on the same packs

[toxic sinew]

Brackets for both events and pvp are an ongoing point of complaint for many (maybe most) of us who aren't spenders.

[digital forge]

Its a poorly planned SLB, simple as that. I know you are just the messenger, but there is no logical reason for that pack to be level locked where it is for this specific event. It should at least be locked along a bracket and not within :). Even a spender is actually locked out of winning this one unless they spend THOUSANDS to rush 37 to 39 in one day to even start competing in the SLB. I digress though.

[hollow flicker]

its almost like scopely is punishing players for not spending money, funny aint it....

[digital forge]

Thanks for being the messenger though, its a rough calling!

[digital forge]

Actually they lost money on this one, folks at ops 37 and 38 would have surely bought update packs if they were available. I was considering getting one.

The move discouraged spending, to be honest.

[hollow flicker]

i can see that point of view

[strong anchor]

Extreme lag on 54 in the past few minutes

[autumn wadi]

I like how Scopely admitted that 188 vs 201 was a massive mismatch, but just put us up against them again on the second attempt.

[dark pine]

@wanton copper appreciate the message about server mismatches, but our server is vs one over a year older. We get destroyed each XSLB, how is intended to be a fair contest? ( eu 186 vs eu 164)

[wanton copper]

Let me ask about this

[pale steeple]

@wanton copper how long should it take for chest to fix the cypher event take yo be delivered?

[wanton copper]

They're being addressed as we speak!

If you submitted a ticket please DM me the ticket number

[pale steeple]

I have not yet. Should I?

[wanton copper]

If you've restarted your game and didn't receive a chest in the gift section, please submit a ticket and DM me the ticket number!

[broken glade]

This incursions thing is the closest I’ve ever come to just throwing in the towel. 1) making it opt out, 2)doing it in the middle of a battle pass, 3) matching with a server full of players 10 levels greater than even our highest. What a blatant pander to the whales who got bored picking over the carcasses of their server. Way to go turning off everyone else…..

[sonic robin]

They want people to impulse spend to fight the whales

[broken glade]

There’s nothing you can impulse spend to defend against a fleet of 50’s rampaging through the systems. So many people just giving up because of this, I really hope it’s worth it Scopley…. :slow clap:

[autumn wadi]

Unclickable hostiles from the other server?

[wanton copper]

Is this all hostiles or just this one?

[gilded warren]

Its memory gulp by the game, clear your device memory

[wanton copper]

I just tried and could click on enemies just fine

[magic star]

Regarding the Cipher event, anyone still locked on phase 1?

I've restarted my game countless times

[high loom]

Yarp.

[wanton copper]

Send a ticket to customer support

[magic star]

will do

[autumn wadi]

It's a ghost. Same hostile shows up in every system I look at.

[gilded warren]

Its in your device memory until you reset memory will keep seeing it

[wanton copper]

Oh that's weird

Did you try restarting Corpse

[gilded warren]

See pink squares in a system memory as well

[magic star]

that happens to me every now and then, restart my client and it's done

[autumn wadi]

Restart (pc client) cleared the ghost.

[wanton copper]

Great to hear

er, read

[gilded warren]

@wanton copper if whoever wants this is fine. Incursions.
My problem is the never ending snafus which seems a daily event instead once a week,month

Events not working never ending grind no plus to reduce grind

[stone quarry]

Cypher event not working after 1st Cypher is completed. <@&509691205798592532>

[lethal zodiac]

I’m not receiving All Out Defence SMS points

[lethal zodiac]

It worked for me

[stone quarry]

@lethal zodiac good for you I should mention this is on Server 29

[copper granite]

This Incursion event is pretty awful, it's not PvP, it's massive ships wiping out miners, during a mining BP event no less. Gonna shield up, come back tomorrow. Fingers crossed we don't lose any players from this, we already lose too many.

[autumn wadi]

Gotta provide bait for the whales.

Krill even.

[copper granite]

Pretty sad. I guess that's the numbers of it all, they just be worth much more than the casuals. Hope you stay alive acorpse!

[stable ivy]

you forget, if there is no way for them to have fun, you don't have any

[autumn wadi]

Our server is on offense atm. This means the invaders get no rewards from killing us on our own server, if I understand correctly. (except normal OPC stuff etc). That doesn't appear to be stopping them though, they're still on our server, probably because precious few of us are invading theirs. And because they are FAR higher level than us, we're effectively being blocked from doing the RoA event.

Content!

[white bramble]

Yep they don’t score for the 6h events but they do score for the 24h one

[copper granite]

It feels more like someone found an exploit, like in WoW when they figure out how to massacre everyone in the towns. Highlights how bad the PvP is in general, with the massive unbalance between player levels and who can smack what.
Am sure will be back tomorrow in a better mood, but right now am thinking of reinstalling other games to plug away on. But not Raid, jesus, never that again..

[autumn wadi]

I played Shop Titans before this. At least that was friendly competition with the big spenders, not grinding your boots into someone's neck. 🤷

[indigo lily]

Same

[worn shadow]

Incursion should be a weekend event!!!

[umbral mist]

Incursions should be a nonexistent event

[stable ivy]

Incurtions would have been fine if they had left the sheild mechanincs ALONE

[unkempt pumice]

The Incursions SMS doesn’t work if the servers aren’t properly matched and if there aren’t enough players in the same Ops bracket with the right ships on both servers.

Ops 50+ players on 188 right now pretty much can’t do the SMS because there aren’t any 50+ on 201, and the 40+ with ships that qualify don’t have the warp range to reach the designated PvP system @wanton copper

[scarlet parrot]

Invading players need to be forced back to their server when they're on defense, otherwise neither server has a "safe" time to get their dailies done.
If people start failing to complete the BP after spending to get it, or start failing to complete the heroic overflow despite playing every day, it's going to drive engagement way down. Why work my ass off for the month to get the BP done if I'm going to be blocked on incursion day and ruin the whole thing?
So, yes, if we're stuck with this Incursions thing, at least auto-move invading players back to their home server at the end of their invasion phase. Otherwise it's not really "invading" and "defending", it's just "lol guys let's port over and grief another server".

[icy marsh]

Nobody goes to the designated pvp system. What the hell am I supposed to do to finish this event

And at earlier, dying doesn't give any points like it's supposed to

[patent river]

Rather than forcing incursion on an entire server. Maybe having those events and focused pvp in TC or a certain area of the galaxy. Those that want to score would go and participate. Keep the chaos focused. Now we gotta face a "Purge" every month. For "forced fun".

The disco pvp in TC was fun. A ship and a place. If you wanted to compete, sweet. If you didn't have the ship nor didn't want to participate..you had some other event to do.

[astral coral]

I mean, the Defend event can be completed with just a Disco in the designated system. And you should get more points if you are killed by a bigger ship. But occasionally the points don't register

[patent river]

I get it, whales want to feel superior and kill in Mass. What's the krills incentive to go out and be slaughtered? Do I gotta see how much I can mine before I get caught? Do I get extra points for playing hide n seek in a 20+ systems? If it's just points for death...I guess just repair and send ships out till I'm done. Entertain the whale with wack a mole.

[icy marsh]

I did that. Twice. Zero poinrs

[patent river]

Maybe the answer is for the incursion there's some kind of greed factor in play. Like all nodes for the event mine at a faster capacity. Maybe it's hostiles in a select system that only drop a currency in order to grab a chest in the event store.

[icy marsh]

That's definitely the problem. Low level people have low incentive to participate becuse less than 1% of people they'll encounter will be killable.

How much fun do I have running away from lvl 40+ people? Not much so far

[patent river]

Give points for dmg to a whale? Whale hunting bounty? Low lvls are gonna die. There's just no point.

I get being out classed by superior crews or even out researched. Maybe I damage my opponents. Maybe I win 1 n 4 battles. If I know there's zero way possible to either score or win. Why do I bother?

[glossy wasp]

Same for me, restarted app, checked store for app update, checked gift tab several times, stuck after completing 3.1

[queen kindle]

You'll need to contact CS if you've already restarted and checked for gifts without it working.

[glossy wasp]

Did ~1hr after the original post about the gift, waiting to hear back, thanks

[quaint grail]

Good luck! I got a ticket closed without investigation on the first try, and the second try CS said I already collected the box despite the screenshots I sent showing stuck at 3.1.

[olive depot]

@wanton copper having just read the announcement about the ‘success’ and ‘fairness’ of incursions in AP , I had a little chuckle to myself. So it is considered 188 vs 201 is fair?? 188 has heavyweights ops 45 to ops 54 (I don’t think I’ve seen bigger yet) whilst the highest ops level in 201 is ops44 and there’s only a handful of them. As for success? Seems there’s still a long way to go before this is a success!! But Scopley can keep telling themselves that!!

[olive depot]

Exactly - points don’t register! So getting killed for nothing is oh so exciting apparently (according to Scopley)

[icy marsh]

And don't forget, you need to get killed like...a dozen times. Ooh exciting right

[olive depot]

Yeah - I’m delighted & honoured to waste repair speed ups, just to be killed by whales every time all so I can complete an sms

[livid prawn]

Should still be some ROE during Incusions at least for mining so you can complete the mining events and Dailies.

[stable ivy]

war mining mode

[autumn wadi]

Even if your own server has an inter-alliance incursion ROE, you'll still get targetted for no gain by the invading server.

I imagine what we're seeing now is what the game was like before people started implementing their own ROE. AKA basically unfun for anyone but the biggest.

[livid prawn]

Agree. Game has gone to 💩 with Incursion event when you can’t mine for dailies or Events without getting killed UPC.

[astral coral]

Every time I tried to find a specific case of scoring not working to send to @wanton copper, the event would trigger and I'd complete the event. There is another variable missing in the scoring, it could be level based because of the large range of players in the same system.

I know there was a specific instance where I killed a player below or equal to me that did not score. And I also know of specific instances when my ENT(Ops 41) killed a Valdore that I scored. I also know that DISCO vs DISCO rarely if ever scored.

[stable ivy]

scopley

[steel lotus]

@wanton copper hi there, just checking in to see if any news on fatal frontiers xlsb event? Still pretty upset I missed this event as armardas are one of my favorite aspects of the game.

I worked hard to qualify and it's depressing to miss it due to game malfunction and never saw the event pop up even after I was told it was fixed.

Any update would be greatly appreciated 🙏 🥺

[autumn wadi]

To clarify, their accountant, I imagine.

[gleaming cosmos]

@wanton copper looks like incursion glitches are showing up already. I believe this shows a player, who probably has another account on server 89, as an invader on server 57

[arctic crater]

there was a lv57 i came across i believe. either way, when you have a 23mil, lv50 ship parked outside your base because one of their lower level players (a lv39) was being targeted in defence to try and stop them raiding, it was simply laughable to see it just casually hanging around.

[gritty bobcat]

@wanton copper, perhaps one unintended side effect is alliance leaderboards for events are now showing alliances from the other server.

so 201 SLB Lat Rush has 188 alliances in it and I imagine vice versa.

Further feedback, if servers like 201 are going to be paired with 188 there is going to have to be handicapping in place. Elsewise you might as well not run the server leaderboard and just give 188 the rewards at the start every time this comes around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicapping

[vagrant topaz]

A lot of 188 are already handicapped enough, as they can’t finish the Incursion Offense/Defensive Ops solo events due to lack of high level 201 players 🤣

[autumn wadi]

Oh no, there's not enough near-mature fur seals for 188 to get full credit for their sealclubbing. 😆

[graceful gulch]

I’ve been trying all day to update the App, but it simply won’t update. I cannot play unless I update. What a bummer.

[green orchid]

I have to agree that it's unfair that 188 and 201 were matched together. Highest player Ops in 188 is lvl 60.

I am personally lvl 37 and the strength of ops 37 in 201 is vastly different to 188. I managed to flatten a 201 lvl 37 station with all ships home in 1 hit. In 188 it takes at least 3 hits...

The event milestones are almost impossible to achieve with such a vast power and ops level difference. @wanton copper what is being done where these massive power disparities exist, making the events impossible to complete?

To be fair, I have not sat unshielded in the same system for as long as I have been today for months 😅

[olive depot]

Im often unshielded for hours on end - rarely have base attacked (ops33) - we have so many ‘smalls’ ops 6 - 30 it’s unreal compared to the older servers

201 is so young - we have no chance of winning vs 188

[green orchid]

In 188, if shields are down for more than 30 minutes, you are almost guaranteed to be raided...

[arctic crater]

Let’s pause 188’s game play for 1 year to give us in 201 a chance to build up a glimmer of hope to develop and compete lol

[green orchid]

Meanwhile, I will camp in 201 and claim all rss from unshielded bases

[dense gate]

In the Master Surveyor event, are the 1* and 3* isogen point totals switched?

[autumn wadi]

Nah 1* mines slower for some reason 🤷

[dusky flint]

201 will be a winner then - No incursion

[fresh pawn]

There should be more consideration on when Incursions get schedualed. Weekdays are a bad idea and for the first time since the battlepass came out I considered briefly just not playing today.

[rigid slate]

Who did the matchmakering? 188 vs 201... Is a joke, just shows the Devs had no experience an anything but cashshops

[fresh pawn]

I'm sure others mentioned this but, I work, I am in meetings all day and cant actively mine. Placing an incursion and master surveyor on the same day was a horrible idea

[rigid slate]

Let's put a 3 yr old server against a 18 month old server... A server which has multiple lvl55+ vsing a server that just passed the lvl39 cap 6 weeks prior

[fresh pawn]

Also for incursions it alters the server economy

If I get hit on 193 by someone, I can hit back. In an incursion I cant find my attacker to recover RSS

it removes millions or billions of RSS from a server

[rigid slate]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pissed-mad-angry-annoyed-gif-4691438

[cunning chasm]

What I hate here most is Lack of info, there is still nothing in event store for incursion event, event though you can BUY currency for it, no info about rewards, and no info about specific Timing for Defense/Offense slots. Not to mention what we know we have to dig for in discord instead of getting all info in-game. Majority of players even don't use discord.

[mossy viper]

incursion event should be dumped in the waste . majority of most gamers dont want such event

[hot bridge]

I like the idea of it. And would love to see it happen properly. But… latency is my biggest concern.. but I’m EU so I’ve no idea how it is for APAC just now

[mossy viper]

most of our players will not participate on the event , they will put a large schild on and make a free day from the game

[vagrant topaz]

Thats my plan @mossy viper

[mossy viper]

i will see what happens on 20.07.

[mossy viper]

me too

[vagrant topaz]

Probs wont even bother with dailies now, catch up on you tube instead 😂

I enjoy pvp as much as the next guy...but meh...

[mossy viper]

i m a pure pve player and a old star trek fan but scope makes a wargame to get u money

[vagrant topaz]

100%

[mossy viper]

and incursions is just that . a money maschine

[vagrant topaz]

Even real war/conflict has rules all must abide by.
Incursions is just a whale event so they can finally use those big shiny ships to smash under cargo surveys

Anyway....better things to catch up on. Peace out y'all

[fresh frost]

tried it yet?

[tight pine]

Lol. Somebody whose name could be read as War Prayer doesn’t like PvP? Kinda misleading there 🙈😅

[mossy viper]

its a nickname i have from a other scyfi tv series

i will try it when it starts at my EU server on Wednessday

[autumn wadi]

Worst thing is, we called attention to this before the first abortive attempt at incursions. They acknowledged it. And didn't do squat. Weaponised incompetence.

[olive depot]

@wanton copper still a fabulous event this incursions - so get your ship destroyed countless times to finish both defense and attack incursion sms plus - kill a maxed centurion with a maxed sally on attack incursion and get ZERO points - yeah that figures

[fresh pawn]

Ugh... my ships that just finished warping, not mining or active in anyway are being wiped out, it is only frustrating nothing fun about this

[mental monolith]

@wanton copper @warped sierra @versed forum @hollow violet due to huge disparity between server 188 and 201 especially for the 40+ players is completely unfair to both sides. 201 only got allowed access to 40+ a few weeks ago and only have a handful of players over ops40 compared to the 300 odd from server 188. This has resulted in most of the 40-50 players from not being able to complete the solo milestones from the incursion attack and defence events. Even more unfair is that not a single player from from server 188 that is ops51-60s can’t even score a single point in their brackets as there are no players on the opposing server.
This has resulted in most of the players missing out on these rewards.

I fell that this needs to be taken back to scopley coordinators to discuss the events,rewards,pairings a lot further

[fresh frost]

I can see what they've done, to try an incentivise the big guys to shoot only the big guys... but yeah, they either need to make the scoring global (so there's nothing you can't get points from), or they need to massage the pairings better so the disparity isn't so large.

APAC will unfortunately be an issue there, as there are so few of you to pick from

[mental monolith]

And I get that and don’t disagree with the brackets and different systems that allow the scoring. But when solo milestones are supposed to be achievable by everyone by participating that is the issue.

[fresh frost]

Just in case it's not clear... I was agreeing with you 😄

[autumn wadi]

Instead of launching such a monstrous mismatch that results in few people actually enjoying the event on either side, they should have maybe shelved it as a bad idea when literally everyone started screaming at them. But you can't listen to the customer, they might start thinking they can have a say in how your product develops. Instead you just operate like microsoft.

Like, this guy shows up. What the actual heck are we supposed to do against this?

[mossy viper]

i never understand why u did not make a big territory on every server where u can do PVP events like this incursion . why need the whole server participate if the majority not wants to pvp or raid ?

[queen kindle]

Rob him when he sleeps, you'd contribute a ton of pts that way.

[fresh pawn]

At least put the PVP event on a day people can monitor their mining dailies, a work day where we cant play all the time.....

Ive been hit like 6 times, and cant complete the BP event

[autumn wadi]

I'm from 201. We could literally get EVERY SHIP on our entire server and not crack that base.

[fresh pawn]

there is no one on my server mining ore in a 3* system.... on a mining BP event, this event broke the game

[sour nebula]

How very sad this event is scopely. I have to give it to you though, we can always count on you to use the proverbial pineapple on us, the player base. I'm level 37, facing off against level 53 players, with ships 5 times my strength. 👏 , using ships I'm years from even procuring. TOP JOB 🤏

[fresh pawn]

Exactly, why can a lvl 46 attack a 33? they are orders of magnitude more powerfull

[sour nebula]

How exactly were the servers 'matched'? An explanation, one would conclude that it was never going to be fair, and the rewards were always going to given to the servers who spend the most.

[white bramble]

What needs changing?

[vagrant topaz]

No miner hits or remove mining from BP event, the ability to mine at all is virtually impossible

Wrong ships in scoring brackets

Lag

Not being able to view battle log after you leave server

[white bramble]

Thanks for explaining. When Eco comes on he can get a clearer picture of what needs changing 🖖

[sour nebula]

Yeah, lets have an event that makes the rest of the events running basically impossible to finish unless you are retired and have all the time in the world.

[vagrant topaz]

Having both GC's would be extremely useful

Being able to globally talk to only your server alliances would help

I dont see any benefit in seeing the GC of the server you move to

We were winning comfortably but are likely to lose because a Whale's 3B base was broken because he forgot to shield and lost 1T of RSS, IMO there should be a cap, our whole server loses because of one persons neglect

[sour nebula]

Shield or share.

[vagrant topaz]

When its a personal loss thats different

[sour nebula]

everything that happens to an individual is personal.

[vagrant topaz]

Personal becomes the whole server

[sour nebula]

I agree with what you are saying about this event, but if someone 'forgot' to shield, I dont have much sympathy as raiding is apart of the core mechanics of this game. And, is always present.

[vagrant topaz]

I get ya, but raiding normally reflects on the player, so its pretty much tough, but its out of the hands of the rest of the server, our Incursion pretty much ended 5 hours ago because it was unrecoverable

[mental monolith]

And while that is in our top tier, that is not the biggest player on our server.

[mossy viper]

raiding is esential part of the game cause scopely wants that so, it never was a core perspective of what star trek means to many older players from the next generation/DS9 Era like me (im 42 years old). yes global conflicts are always in star trek but not steal or war itself.

[torpid herald]

I agree, how stupid is that - I can't even mine 2* in systems under level 20 without being killed by the invading server (level 37's killing my level 25 miner.... )

[solid wharf]

1... Incursions should be run in between battlepasses not during
2.. Mining events with incursions is just ridiculous and who ever had that brain fart needs to be slapped across the face with a dead salmon.

@wanton copper ☝️ food for thought

[mild glacier]

@wanton copper when you were considering event “fairness” between servers in different regions, did you also consider the same between US servers? Players on the west coast tend to have huge event time bonuses over those on the east coast. For example these 6 hour incursions happen literally during the entire workday and commute for the east coast, meaning huge numbers of players won’t be able to participate in half of the event. That means whatever server invades first basically gets screwed because they have very few available players. Please consider changing event times to not run on west coast time. Thank you.

[solid wharf]

The incursion started at midnight here 🤦‍♂️

[reef verge]

If they considered "fairness" - they would've fixed the PvP brackets before they launched these.