If he spams enough, they will kick him
#💬-events-feedback
marsh osprey
tender moat
@unborn stone they told me to be loud...
stoic gorge
Can you repeat that please
tender moat
@stoic gorge ok
@[RPH] Kitiara ok
GET REFUNDS...!!!
TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!
DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...
NO ONE LISTENS...
THE PVP IS GARBAGE...
I AM HAPPY TO KEEP TAKING PMs ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS TO WHY I THINK IT IS GARBAGE THANKYOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE...
vagrant topaz
@tacit linden @unborn stone Totally agree. Thanks for the feedback.
tacit linden
The player base is excited about the game and its a decent product at launch. Thats rare. Dont start this thing off with bait and switching your newfound customers.
vagrant topaz
the last time they saw that the players were unhappy they closed the game for about 6 months ... after that we all starte from zero.
That was in 2017
i was very happy with the game then @vagrant topaz much better than what it is now
it was much better balanced, if someone steal your resources you could recover within 2 hours of play from the wailing minima necessary to continue
Wailing=marauders google translate 🤔 i don t know what is wailing
glad vector
@vagrant topaz looks like they forgot to reduce repair times in the update
hybrid prawn
unborn stone
I specifically asked about warp ranges being nerfed yesterday. Multiple times, in fact. Primarily because ships in the release had drastically-reduces warp ranges. And repair duration - not just costs.
warm monolith
Repair time has not changed. If they were reducing it they failed the game
On the server I play on it would be great to have mining events instead of repeating the same ones over and over
tender moat
@ornate trellis @vagrant topaz Race to level 20 event?
1 day 19h?
Wtf?
That will take a year for level 10s with all the nerfing and raiding...
Tell the Devs they need to take a maths class...
unborn stone
Go away Chaos. Preferably far, far away...
ornate mica
@tender moat
Wrong. @ornate trellis Make playing the game for 2 hours a day one of the tasks of every Skopely Support person. Create some empathy.
unborn stone
To work for a company like Scopely you need to have the least amount of ethics possible - which contravenes having any kind of empathy whatsoever.
STFC is one of worst (if not the worst) bait-and-switch schemes yet dumped on the unsuspecting consumer. The track record for this company is so horrendous that it defies belief.
ornate mica
@unborn stone
Rumour has it that an international law firm are preparing a class action case.
unborn stone
tender moat
@ornate mica I was trying to be nice... lol
Oh and yes I am the one attacking Tulip and making it run from alliance to alliance bribing them with all the resources they stole...
Are you on that server as well?
hasty glen
@tender moat I believe it was a week long event when it started. Nonetheless yea, the events are clearly catering to P2W players. For the ship/officer events it seems like it checks how much ship/officer XP you have saved up, and almost doubles it for the max reward (which is often the only one worth a damn)
vagrant topaz
So you reduce the cost of promoting officers but keep event goals the same...sneaky little backdoor cash grab there. Well played you greedy little Ferengi
stoic gorge
How is everything they do a "cash grab?" Not all of us spend money and still manage to progress, albeit slower lately.. not spent a cent and im 90% towards levelling again, estimate another four days til start ops 25 upgrade
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz even before thé reduction u couldn't do all thé events without buying packs. Ik just save stuff and do An event now and then
I d hope they Bring back thé single hostile hunt. That was fun
@vagrant topaz yeah that's pretty much how I've been doing it but with the reduced promotion cost it's gonna go from one event every 2-3 weeks to maybe 3 events a year...that's just insane.
vagrant topaz
i wonder will we see a pvp event soon now they have reduced repair costs....
stoic gorge
Maybe!
sterile snow
howd you get the resources to get to a lvl OP?
trim cape
raid steal kill miners
past vine
alternatively, grind the grind.
vagrant topaz
On topic!?!!
Current op23 event
Lvl ur OP from 20 to 23 in 3 days
Say wahaaaat.
OP 23 alone (from22) is 4 days 5h to upgrade.
I have no probb that it's hard or almost impossible to manage an event without spending lathium or speedups or even irl cash. But this is outrageous. Only chance to get it done one shud have started the upgrade be4 the event started. And then im only talking about OP from 22 to 23. From 20 to 23 its........... Tbh I have no words for this stupidity.
WHAT did u think there?
Let's make the event so impossible that ppl get so pissed off they quit? I don't think that's the best way to make money. It is money u wanna make isn't?
Keep up the good work (irony).
past vine
i enjoyed the level from 10 to 20 event. it popped up when i was level 13 or something. so i couldn't claim the points for upgrading to level 12 xDD
trim cape
@vagrant topaz i agree with u but no one has to complete it. youre not forced to spent unless u want to complete it.
vagrant topaz
@trim cape as I see it it has nothing to do with if I have to.
It's about If I wanted to its impossible. At least without serious amount of cash. Do u even know whats needed to lvl up beside the OP between lv 20-23. It's shipyard it's docks it's turrets it's RnD and so on. If I didn't have a work and freinds and tbh a life I wud do the math on it just to show some figures. But it isn't needed.
Any one with a tiny brain wud realize it's not even a close call if u cud manage this event on the 3 days time given. So again. I don't have anything against hard events. But this type of event is just lame.
trim cape
@vagrant topaz yes i know what it takes i am lvl 23 and this wassent posible without spending.
Event like this goos to fast just last week we had 10-20 ops now to lvl 23 alraidy only peeple that spent big monney have just made it at 23. Make a event of killing most hostiles makes more sence tbh.
vagrant topaz
They ll repeat it, no worries
vagrant topaz
Who cares if they will repeat it. I posted cus it's a scam to make an event that is so impossible to finish, without shitloads of cash. DOH
glad vector
Finished both in about 7 mins .... slow warp 🙄
Didn't spend a cent either .... @vagrant topaz
Really killing a lvl 25 hostile isn't that hard 🤔
sterile snow
thats only if you alrdy reached the OP lvl
vagrant topaz
Wow going mad at how hard it is to get to lvl 23 ... wait til you see how hard it is to get to 32 !
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz i promise u I'll be mad at any event that is constructed like this 1. No Mather what lv or goal it has. Even tho it's a pay to win/lvl/advance/survive/almost anything game. There should at least a minor/microscope chance to get a event done.
tribal python
There is though. For anyone that was at Ops 20, and has been actively playing and acquiring speed ups (which I get all the time) you can easily get to 23 in three days.
Now, if you are not even close to Ops 20, or if you blow through every speed up with reckless abandon, then you are not going to make it.
vagrant topaz
I just hope they continue the trend up to lv33
vagrant topaz
Dont worry about the level 23 operations event, it disappeared for the ones who finished it today in time.
candid heath
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> Next time there is an event involving dailies, it would be great if the the event could start at the same time as reset, and not when everyone has already completed their dailies and will now miss out on those tokens others who did not complete their dailies already will receive.
topaz burrow
^
inland plover
Because of that every member in DSE should receive 10 tokens for appreciation. non biased here. I'm 😎
vagrant topaz
I would hope when the daily goals are reset in 8 hours that there will be more than 5 standard tokens available per day, because 5 spins a day at this wheel would be the biggest joke of an event, ever 😂
fiery ridge
Working on 3 in 10 odds of getting a super holiday token (generous odds), 100 pulls to get one shot at the top box. Even if you got ten pills a day, you are looking at ten days for a top level pull.
fiery ridge
Yep. I tilted the odds so you won 3 out of 10 pulls just to make the math easier. And that 3 would be super generous.
candid heath
@vagrant topaz the "rush to ops 23" event (with a 3 day time limit, after everyone just killed themselves getting to ops 20 24 hrs earlier for the "rush to ops 20" event) is by far the biggest joke of an event for non-founder players
fiery ridge
It is important we all share the same level of pain and frustration. 😃
vagrant topaz
@candid heath Game is completely broken after level 25 so I don’t know why they’re trying to rush people to 23
candid heath
@vagrant topaz exactly lol
RUSH !!!.....to not being able to use 3* ships and faction ships due to lack of resources!
iron latch
One of my 1m alliance m8s can't progress the kehra past tier 5 bcs cant seem to get rare crystal from the refinery and there literally is no other way... So its up to RnG now. Can't buy it in packs either (which is defo a good thing) but you start to get the idea... You rush past lv 23 events yet there's nothing to do there :/
fiery ridge
Plus, the level of the refinery determines if you get rare crustal or not.
sterile snow
i still cant get uncommon from refinery
iron latch
@sterile snow up to RnG unfortunately. Last time i had luck i got 45 uncommons from a 15K batch lol
sterile snow
must be 1% for me?
fiery ridge
What level is your refinery?
sterile snow
23
fiery ridge
Geez... even I get some at 19. I thought it starts at 15. Don’t buy any lottery tickets.
sterile snow
well i have been using them as much as i can and literally never got any uncommon
im slightly getting sick of it now
amber loom
Greetings
The SHT PACK (where is the I?)
For $129.99 the main draw is 700 super holiday Tokens
Spending 700 tokens will get you
20 Chests.
Statistically Speaking of the 20 chests you will on Average
8 Chests being 0718 Shards - 40%
5 Chests being G3 Comman Materials - 25%
4 Chests Being Urtha Shards - 20%
3 Chests Being Uncommon Materials - 15%
The maximum amount of shards per chest for Urtha is 20. Assuming you get all 4 chests to be 20 shards that is 80 shards.
80 shards is enough to promote her from level one to level 2 and have 26 shards into level 2.
This is optimal, a few will get more than this due to statisical variation, but most will get less.
So really you are paying 129.99 for a chance to promote Urtha.. and some latinum. These are the facts, spend as you will.
Scopley, I would like to know where you get your value markers from? 😦
fiery ridge
The bottom of their cognac glasses?
amber loom
Result from using 700 tokens to open silver packages
Out of a Maximum of 42000 (14000 tokens[20x] possible shards, 5025 where recieved (1625 tokens)
so the chance drops range around 20-29%
elder laurel
YO YO YO YO!
ARE WE ALL JUST NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW I LOST OUT ON MY 24H KIRK CHEST FOR THIS HOLIDAY BULLSHIT?!?!1
simple goblet
this holiday gambling event is illegal as hell where I live
amber loom
and got no event rewards
elder laurel
this holiday shit is dumb AF
amber loom
yes this game in in violation of the anti gamilbing online rules i think in EU
simple goblet
it's a violation of them in most of the US, too
amber loom
ahh lol
gritty crag
I am speechless, how much shit can they develop, when there are a lot off content that need to be worked on. Properly the worst money i ever spend on a game, is the money i spend on this game🙃
tribal python
You don't spend on many mobile games then if you think this is the worst. The Jellyfish pack, for $50, literally gave you an entire ship that is capable of defeating everything in it's tier with ease. That's almost unheard of in terms of money-to-value for mobile games. Most of the time, $50 gives you a partially unlocked unit or feature. Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes is a great example. It's $200+ to both unlock a new character and get them adequately promoted to the tier necessary to be useful. Spending only $50 would at best unlock the unit, but it would be too weak to use it for story, raids, events, or PvP in most cases. I've never played a mobile game that let you do as much with $50 as this one has. I still haven't even come close to burning through the resources that came included in the pack, and the ship was ready to rock right out of the box.
gritty crag
I dont spend on a lot off games no, this is like number 4 or 5 in google play, and it is the last. I have been palying swogh for 15 months, and i can play it for years. I dont spend anymore, and i can stay on top in Arena without spending, not saying that the team behind is not retarded they are, bot its becuse they hunger for cash, they are not creating a bad game just unbalanced so ppl spend, Revan is a perfect example, they know what they do, and do it only to get ppl to spend. I get 800-1000 crystals every day, i spend them wisely, so i dont need spend money to unlock. Problem with the ppl behind this game, they are just furhtermore 100% useless, when it come to game development. Something as simple as a raid is not in the game, i mean two raids one mid lvl and one high lvl thats it, the game would be so much better, if rewards was balanced
Just wait until you get lvl 22+ you will see how fare you get with 50 usd.
tribal python
I think you are missing my point. We aren't discussing what you can accomplish without spending, because that is a hard comparison to make with a game that's been out a matter of weeks versus a game that's been out for years. The comparison is return on investment, what you get for each dollar spent. Fleet Command offered a pack for $50 that gave you a strong unit, complete with the purchase, with no other strings attached. Galaxy of Heroes gives you a 2 or 3 star unit, incapable to doing much of anything.
And of course raids aren't in this game...they weren't in Galaxy of Heroes at launch either. That was a fair amount of time into live development.
vagrant topaz
I have played several big games from the scratch. None of the global launches have been this glitchy in the beginning.
I can live up with low content and slow development, but the constant glitches, neverending faults in gameplay, dead-end progress goals, non-working items and devs lack of intrest to actually communicate regarding the problems will drive all the potential players to quit (except the beta testers of course). And addition to that, the regular Joe who spends 100-200€ month will need to spend double to triple to make it through the game up to any reasonable level and after that it costs huge amounts of cash to have steady upkeep.
gritty crag
I get your point, Jelly is good and its worth it to around lvl 20, but as i say lets talk again when you get lvl 22+. They even lowered the cost on building a lot, so now yo acutely have a chance to build after lvl 22. When i upgraded lvl 24 ops the amount off g3 uncommen ore was 200, now lvl 25 is 80. Raids are content this game has close to no content after lvl 20, so ofc they should made raids a priority. Latterly thinking you are on off the ppl they hired to play the game and talk shit.....
vagrant topaz
The problem is if the material is next to impossible to get by grinding, there will be so few players when the server maturity is around level 30, that it is nonsense to bother spending any cash. And usually when people stop spending, the devs cut costs and development stops. This has been seen way too many times.
There should be very intriguing and generous prizes until people are 25ish. Not meaning easy tasks but things that people actually can reach, not impossible mission walls and power gaps.
tribal python
EP, I wish they were paying me to play. You should wish that too...who wouldn't want that for a job? No, I'm not being paid...it's gone the other direction, and I've paid them. And this game is nowhere near perfect. My argument is just that I've spent money on a lot of mobile games. Thousands on Galaxy of Heroes because I enjoy the Star Wars IP. But never once did I get as much enjoyment out of a single purchase in that game than I did with the Jellyfish here. It was nice to just have the entire unit with one, small purchase and then not have that unit require me to do much of anything else. Galaxy of Heroes made it feel bad, because it took a lot more than simply spending the money to get any unit to a place of usefulness. You had to unlock the character AND continue to buy packs to get it to 6 or 7 stars. Then you had to level it, and gear it, and after a shit ton of effort you could finally slot it into a squad. I commend this game for not putting me through all that nonsense just to have fun with a purchase.
And I never expected it to carry me indefinitely, anymore than I expect that from other games. Galaxy of Heroes is well known for nerfing characters or releasing superior ones that invalidate prior purchases, so it's really no different.
uneven relic
Yup totally agree with you @tribal python
People need to understand that basically every game, no basically 95% of all mobile games are the same concept, you can play for free, or to help boost your progress you need to by packs, I’ve been playing clash of clans for years basically since it first came out and it’s exactly the same. Can wait for the time to build and research, or you can pay to get it faster, and as you het higher levels, thing in game cost more resources and more time. So I don’t know why people complain about the same concept of this game,
YES I agree there are plenty of bugs and kinks to work out, give them time and it will happen, and the game will get better, even Clash of Clans when it first came out was buggy as, but it’s still going and going well.
cobalt sparrow
@uneven relic Yes, I remember the elixir glitch with Clash from Sept 2013. I started playing 8 weeks after app release. SiLeNTxClaN
uneven relic
Oh yea that one was a pain lol 😂 and I kinda haven’t played the last couple years, kinda just started to jump back into it again 😃 as a kind of in between ST and Clans 😉
ornate mica
@uneven relic
It's a bit different when you HAVE been slogging away for weeks and Scopely just take it all away from you. Such as 500k rss mined for a particular mission and warp range so you can't even get back TO the mission.
uneven relic
yeah I know, I've been playing from one of the original 'Founder' servers. and yeah our missions were rest to zero, I had one mission to 250k Tritanium I was 3/4 way through and it was rest back to zero nearly 2 months work, and 100k Dilithium which I hace mined about nearly 50k of that, also reset back to zero, but you know, it's like, we have to choose our battles, they can't fix that so oh well, i'll just start again 😃 I am for the most part an optimist, so like yes it's a pain, and annoying, but can't be fixed, so just move on.
vagrant topaz
When clash of clans came out, it was low in content but very stable and very few if any progress errors. On top of that supercell was with very well trained community managers and customer service 24/7. It was soft launched as finalized product with future update plan and milestones when things happen. That’s why it generates such a huge revenue, as people are actually willing to pay for it, as it just works. Not everybody are happy ever, but people can’t complain about stupid errors and lack of dev competence in coc like in fleet command.
The problem here isnt bad content, but actual errors and bugs in gameplay and progress, that are just a result of bad programming and bad project management. They should definitely NOT sell anything, except ask for donations and pay generous lithanium packs or something like that, as this product is NOT ok, not nearly finished and not nearly ready.
What comes to events, they should all be very easy so people could progress to the levels that work and let people decide if they are willing to stay supporting the game or not.
river minnow
@vagrant topaz i agree, i can't play even for more than 30 minutes without errors and bugs they mostly happen in pvp e pve that is one of most important parts. yesterday i have to delete and download again 3 times because of errors that makes impossible to play, they should at least say its in beta, because of course it is not finished i hope they fix it before eve launch or i don't know who will play it besides the fanatic fans of star trek
i like a lot star trek but not enough to play a game that doesn't work
ornate mica
This is a new low, even for Scopely.
Mine 25k Tritanium.
Donate 25k Tritanium.
NO REWARDS!
cinder estuary
You haven’t got to the mine 250k version?
ornate mica
@cinder estuary
Actually, yes. Doing them for the SECOND time as Scopely reset my progress to ZERO mined even though I had almost completed each of these plus one other for 500k parsteel that was the third step in a mission that I cannot even start again because these geniuses halved my warp range!
And you wonder why I am Disgruntled @vagrant topaz
cinder estuary
And guess where all that mined rss go?
sterile snow
to the donation youll be giving afterwrds?
gritty crag
Its only a matter off time before the servers will be closed
sleek zealot
@gritty crag Six Hundred Thousand people (including me) say you are full of shit. Go play something else.
candid verge
Monobrew has a infinite wallet and you can't discuss anything with him regarding cash
sleek zealot
@candid verge dont worry @candid verge , you sure showed them with your 50 euro chargeback. GG
candid verge
Go pay more money cow
gritty crag
I havent talked to anyone that think the game is ready for realese. What i say is i dont think they will develop the game much further, when there are no ppl left to spend. You can farm around 50 Jelly shards but it takes 75 to craft
When i figured out the game was a big scam i asked for a refund but apparently it was to late, because it was after the server merge, that ended out pretty bad.
flat ingot
It's still interesting to see that after the euphoria of the global launch for new players, negative reviews tend to take over the positive reviews. it shows a trend that they must take into consideration. To be continued ...
dusk glade
Scopely seem to be having a fair bit of strife everywhere. A quick google last night showed walking dead and wwe players pursuing legal action against them for the same reasons people are pissed off here. Content paid for then removed etc. Lots of comments by devs who’ve quit the company too. Apparently their focus is on devs doing everything except actually developing games. Heaps of people complaining how they release a game for quick cash from new players then never bother fixing or updating it. Guess they just buy the work of others and market it for quick cash. I was actually surprised by how many pissed off players there are across all the Scopely games. The walking dead guys even organised a player strike which apparently hurt their bottom line a bit. Given the attention they are drawing to themselves from Apple and google plus their reputation dragging in the dirt I’d say Scopely days as a gaming company are nearly over.
Timelines is advertising heavily again and that Star Wars game is just around the corner. Fleet command will be a ghost town when that comes out. Hopefully not too many people donate cash to them for this train wreck in the meantime.
The saddest part is that they could so easily fix this game. But they just don’t care at all. It’s clear now that they have zero intention of fixing it. They’ve had feedback from us on the beta servers for over six months with no fixes. Same story with their other games. Empty promises and pandering words is all we’ll see from them. I’d like to be wrong but history bears it out.
vagrant topaz
@dusk glade i know thé walking dead game, played that for two years. Gotta Point out there s never been a player strike in that game. Lots of talk but nothing solid.
That game is actually quite playable, some major issues in thé past with cheating and bugs that gave some players advantages but nothing gamebreaking.
Very vocal game community in its negativity though. I used to follow thé forums but stopped
dusk glade
I read something about Scopely getting trouble over selling a random chance powerup for a character that never worked or something and players going on a spending strike over it.
vagrant topaz
Not by my knowledge unless it happened in thé last 6 months
I m just cruising in this game. See where it is going... I hope somewhere Else tegen nowhere
tender birch
All they need to do is increase the mining rates and volumes......then bring back PvP events
For starters anyways
vagrant topaz
Among other things...
dusk glade
Exactly.........but they won’t.
vagrant topaz
You van not be sure of that! Psychic Powers?
To use walking dead again, game at start was boring as hell. They only started tot put in content gradually
ornate mica
@EnterpriseNL#9741
So... Minobrow's wallet size in inversely proportional to his intellect?
lone turret
@ornate mica
Yes.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz the latest "cosmic carnage" event is flawed some players getting more trophies than others so unfair advantage as the solo event are timed and give a certain amount of trophies so there is no possible way i can compete with nor catch up nor getting into the reward tiers that some just walked into for doing the same work i did, plus i was on position 5 and got knocked to 6 by a person who has the same about or points as me surely as i achieved that amount first that's my position until im surpassed not matched
spiral venture
Spent an hour and a half killing appropriate level hostiles, my solo score keeps going up, but I get one whole trophy. Not worth the grind
green wyvern
What @vagrant topaz said
vagrant topaz
event is 7 days ill be 1.4k the others that get more points at 3.5k oh yeah i can see me wining that, ive been pushed from 5th to 17th in less than an hour all players with 500 point but i only got 200 thanks lads way to make it fair and most importantly of all fun
green wyvern
Its rigged for the pay 2 win model
Again, don’t blame the guys paying
I blame Scopely
You keep doing these events to get money out of people and these daily events with rewards are a joke
And you don’t even get a significant jump in prizes as you level up ur ops
sleek zealot
Ok, so its rigged. How about you aim for the highest reward possible in your bracket instead?
green wyvern
I did
I only got 200 points
I should be at 250
Based on the game announcement
vagrant topaz
im lvl 27 should be 500 but only 200 lol
merry marlin
Me too, I am lvl 27 but only 200, but it says 500?
balmy grove
Rigged on not a p2w model at all rigged on p2w means f2p have a chance if they work way harder and spend way more time trying still this is a pay only model which severely hurts them since f2p players lack any chance of winning at all. I'm kinda a moderate spender myself and see the flaws you'll drive your whole f2p player base away which means 95% of the game population and then there is nothing for the p2w players in the end.
KEEP IT UP SCOPLEY AND U WONT HAVE A PLAYER BASE@
vagrant topaz
On our server we have one lvl 29 being able tonscore 500 per event. There s one lvl 28 who s able to score 250 by my knowledge. I m a 27 and van only get 200 doe every event... Some how they fairness of this escapes me 😂
sleek zealot
On our server we a level 22 with 230 points.... how is that possible? @vagrant topaz @ornate trellis
vagrant topaz
There s already been two events and points from a third?
sleek zealot
I understood them to be dailies.. it started yesterday.. shouldnt max be 200 points for someone in 20-23 range?
@vagrant topaz
sleek zealot
Balls, ok. Thanks
vagrant topaz
100% rigged in favour of p2w players...however at lvl24 I'm getting 900k parsteel every 6hrs for the solo rewards plus g3 uncommon ore...will I win the leaderboard? Hell no might place somewhere in the middle or lower third but I'm cool with that. Solo event has meant I can pull my envoys from parsteel duty and stockpile g3 instead and I'm ok with that.
IT s also good for my faction rep... 295k noW, up 15k from yesterday
Im hunting non faction ships...more kills/repair...any system with 25-26 battleships (non faction)? @vagrant topaz
Don't see much point rushing faction rep when credits don't keep pace.
True @vagrant topaz
I knew one system with non faction battleships but it was converted...
I ll check
Hunting in k'amia just inside Klingon space atm but that's 23-25 and the 23's don't give points...frustrating to have to spawn force every few mins...need 24-26
@vagrant topaz nasturta 26 in rol space has pakked smugglers battleships
uneven relic
Huber in Romulan is a level 24 system and doesn’t have Faction ships
Cillers Level 25 has Suliban Cabal
vagrant topaz
Looking specifically for battleships...gives my kehra the most kills/repair
Nasturta 26 is thé place you go then
uneven relic
Ahh right 😃
vagrant topaz
Benzar smugglers, my bad, not pakled
Ill check it out next event cycle cheers @vagrant topaz
You re welcome @vagrant topaz happy to help
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz come to thé party in nasturta!
Tried it...not efficient only the 26's are doable with any efficiency and the 160k patrols make it awkward to do whilst taking care of the kids...back to k'amia for me lol
deft sorrel
just upgraded to level 24 for event.. big mistake dont make the same mistake unless you can kill 200 level 24 hostiles lol 😦
sleek zealot
Sorry, what? To get the 250 points you need to kill 200 l24 hostiles?
deft sorrel
yet but its 200 points and i didnt get the 5m tritanium gift level 24 players got before the event
i guess i could ask support for the 5m tritanium...
sleek zealot
5M titanium? What?
deft sorrel
g3 ships are expensive to repair
sleek zealot
Sure, but tell me more about the 5M gift 😬
deft sorrel
i think @vagrant topaz mentioned it oh but hes level 27 not 24 my mistake
sleek zealot
5M for christmas gift is possible i guess for a 27
stoic gorge
Could always hit a hundred 26s instead lol
Also nobody under level 27 got the trit afaik... i would loved it too 😦
vagrant topaz
I actually got thé gift twice
sleek zealot
The 5M trit? What level are u?
vagrant topaz
27
sleek zealot
Nice
pale hinge
You really screwed if you level 17 though. You either get 25 or 50 trophies... any guesses what I am getting at 17? 😡
It’s most likely a typo but seriously...
delicate merlin
I’m getting 25 at 17 wish it was 50
uneven relic
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis a suggestion for the Cosmic Solo event would be it would be great to have Tritanium and Dilithium also as the Tier prizes for the hostiles instead of just Parsteel.
vagrant topaz
Anyone know if switching alliances will make ya lose progress
mint dock
When can you join an alliance?
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz switching alliances doesn't go anything to your progress
vagrant topaz
Just wish they would fix the application of rewards..mine ain't right still
vagrant topaz
With all the whale pandering going on lately I'm surprised Greenpeace isn't blockading your offices...
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz this is a business. And whether you like it or not, the whales finance you and your free game. So... my suggestion is stop worrying about what you haven’t got, and focus on what you have and make the best of it.
vagrant topaz
Oooh unsolicited advice thanks I'll file it with my emails from the Nigerian Prince
vagrant topaz
Free players = mooch imo. No game will cater to the free crowd
vagrant topaz
<--not f2p just fyi. Also not an idiot with more money than sense.
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz you should not be so quick to criticise people you don’t know nor their financial situation. Some people spend a few hundred on night out and all they get is a headache. Live and let live.
And most people who have this money to spend are far from idiots. Just have a lot of disposable income. For some time > money.
vagrant topaz
I know people that spent $200,000 on a car
Why when you can buy a nice one for 25,000… Or 15,000… My point is no one should be criticized how they spend their hard earned money
Some people enjoy spending $5000 on a game… More power to them
At least the car is real and has a resale value too...dropping a weeks wages on pixels is...curious at best
I've put money into this game too, more than I feel it's worth if I'm honest but the level of spending I've seen for a bug ridden unfinished poorly supported ip like this is truly staggering.
I could throw $3000 on this game , if I chose, and that would only be 1/10 of my monthly income
There’s a lot of people on my server who make good money in my alliance. More than half of the people in my alliance probably make over $150,000 a year
Yay for you and your piles of money...
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz How to be a millionaire.. step 1. Quit your job. 2. Start your own business. 3. Profit
Else, stop moaning 👍
vagrant topaz
Stop typing monobrow i already blocked you
sleek zealot
Then you are missing out on real advice. Still, its likely wasted on you anyway so will return the favour,
mint dock
I’d be genuinely interested to know what the devs set as a benchmark for the amount you’d be reasonably expected to spend each month to make good steady progress. I mean I buy the occasional pack , but I won’t go mad and if the game is set up in such a way that you’d die of boredom from grinding mats unless you spent say 300 a month on it, that’s a different story.
sleek zealot
@mint dock i think you could reasonably be free to play up until level 18. But when 19 comes, if you cant get to 300k base defence, you are going to get emptied by the bigger players.
I did max 18 to level 23 by buying 4 ultra packs and then had a much stronger defence. I think if you want to get out of the early game that is the minimum, ideally spent all at once but you could also do it over a number of weeks / months if you shield regularly.
This is definitely not f2p friendly but its possible, just take it slow and max all the way to 18 or youll get punished.
mint dock
@sleek zealot ah so you’ve spent a little more than I have so far, but I’ve got to lvl20 ok and I’m maxing out builds before levelling up. The buildings don’t seem too bad, nor does research. It’s the ships that are a complete killer. Saying that, I guess I have time to refine a lot of 3* stuff before I will need it for anything other than the Kehra.
sleek zealot
You will find refining for 3* pretty nasty atm... you might get lucky, but the main reason I went to 26 was for the 2x refine option. Was a similar cost, but I also had around 20M of raided resources, so youll prob need to add a couple more packs. Between 4-8 to get to 26...
at 26 tho,,, you can chill, lol
25-26 was brutal...
Pretty much every building needs to be level 25
Oh and ships is where scopely make their money from whales. Example at t4 (approx 100k power) the Vahklas needs 140 rare gas per (each!) weapon upgrade.
There are 3 per Tier and you get 60 per ultra pack, so for just 3 weapons you need to buy 7 ultra weapon packs.
And most of the other stuff in the pack you dont even need at that stage, i mean, 1200 2* battle parts? Err
That said, the game is great, and i did see the “value” in the station upgrades, but £700 for 3 weapon upgrades. Nah. Not value imo
mint dock
@sleek zealot yeah that kinda of price is insane. I guess with the exception of a small handful of players who will buy at that, everyone else is gonna be in the same boat which makes me wonder how quickly the player base will fall away in the high 20s
deft sorrel
In the first quarter of 2018, the company’s titles generated $81.45 per paying customer per month. (“Walking Dead” players spend an average of $125 per month in the game.)
sleek zealot
It will fall away significantly, then server(s) will merge and those remaining will have an awesome game imo
90% will quit imo
Itll take at least 6 months to sort out probably
mint dock
I suspect most of the ones who remain will be PvP fans, rather than playing for exploring and building.
potent nacelle
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis Why oh why are we still getting Holiday Tokens in our final Daily Quest Chest and not Alliance Tokens? Why are we getting things we cannot use? (that is slightly rhetorical).
ornate trellis
Ty for heads up, known and will be removed
vagrant topaz
Exactly that - thanks @ornate trellis
vagrant topaz
Removed and replaced with what?
ornate trellis
simply removed for now. note that seasonal currencies will always come and go, depending on events scheduled
delicate moss
JB... any new year special packs coming?
ornate trellis
i don't have the visbility on this just yet, will defer to Q2 and when everyone back on deck in just a few days 😃
vagrant topaz
@ornate trellis @vagrant topaz any news on thé lvl 27 not getting 500 gold alliance trophies where 28 and 29s do? Isn't as advertised. I m missing out on a lot of stuff and like to get what was intended to be given
worldly flower
Why are we still getting holiday tokens?
mint dock
Save then for next year
vagrant topaz
@JB.Scopely @Q2 any news on thé lvl 27 not getting 500 gold alliance trophies where 28 and 29s do? Isn't as advertised. I m missing out on a lot of stuff and like to get what was intended to be given.
I did all thé events, save one, up till now. I m only 4th in the solo leaderboard... I should be first or second with thé correct Points.
And you make matters worse, i m missing out on a lot of uncommon crystal it seems. Lvl 28 get 25 of that apparently with thé correct milestones while i as a lvl 27 with thé wrong milestones get none!
Will this be rectified? Support has just answered they are waiting on info from the team.
vagrant topaz
Seconded as a lvl 24 only getting 200 of the 250 advertised (Also lower milestones I assume)
sleek zealot
Also only getting 200 points at level 26
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz That should have been solved. If you haven't received your missing Trophies contact Customer Support.
No, not solved @vagrant topaz
This is our solo leaderboard.
I should have 13500 trophies for completing 27 of thé 28 solo events
And then there s thé difference in thé milestones for each of those event... I missed out on a lot of stuff, parsteel, tritanium, some uncommon G3 ore and most important 675 uncommon G3 crystal (27*25).
All lvl 27 should have been in thé same bracket as 28 and 29 but we all got stuck with thé 24-26 bracket.
These are thé milestones i got (haven't gotbthe first one)
And these are those for lvl 28 and higher
Will i get 300*27 trophies and thé difference in milestones?
vagrant topaz
@q2 here's the response I have from support so far.
Sent them a screen of your above reply to Magicelf too.
Each response has taken 2+ days and told me nothing, I am assuming @vagrant topaz is in the same boat.
We ll get there, eventually
Yes, had to wait a long time... Hopefully we ll get what we are entitled to
vagrant topaz
Also this was their question before the response posted above...do they not have access to detailed logs of our activity? @vagrant topaz
vagrant topaz
Less than an hour on the event cycle, how will our tickets be resolved after the fact? Will support call me a liar again and refuse to compensate me as they have done for virtually every ticket submitted (except missing uhura)? Given their usual response time I have zero hope my ticket will be handled with any expediency.
Screenshot everything and be a persistent pain in the ass
I ve got good hopes it ll be solved. We prob Will get stuff afterwards
Have done exactly that in the past, still got nowhere and took weeks to get there. The biggest problem with support is their uneven approach to who they help and how they do it. 2 identical tickets get treated 2 vastly different ways. After the migration debacle literally stole hundreds of kronors worth of paid content I was told to deal with it and gtfo. Others were compensated with thousands of rss and even in a few cases goddamn faction ships.
Unfortunately you are 100% right, CS is woefully inconsistent. Fortunately I was one of the luckier ones in the post migration handouts. Others had weeks of battling in vain including our alliance founder who has basically quit the game as a result
Many quit as a result of that shitshow. I was damm close and longer give scopely access to my wallet.
vagrant topaz
They won’t fix you during the event, or it’d change the leaderboards. That’s what they told me
More than they told me...
@vagrant topaz was never expecting that
New alliance event now
pulsar raven
@vagrant topaz Couple of our alliance members did not get the alliance reward
mint dock
New event being a way of giving free bonus stuff to the highest paying team 😂
Like all events I guess......
plush sierra
So only the top 10 alliances got rewards from Cosmic Carnage? And only top 100 individuals? That is a real good way to make people regret even bothering
Oh well back to working on my time turner so I can figure out how to fit 4 station upgrades into a 24 hour period when I have a single upgrade that is over 24 hours.
hardy forum
There's an alliance event?
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz Any update on the missing event rewards for cosmic carnage? This delay is once again holding up my progress which in turn is affecting my alliance's ranking in the new power up event.
tribal python
@plush sierra Finding your way into a top 10 alliance is super easy at this point. So many of them have open spots or inactive members that you almost have to intentionally NOT progress at a halfway decent pace to find yourself eligible to be a member. My advice would be to look into moving up, and you'll see both better event rewards and a higher frequency of alliance bonuses for your fellow members purchasing packs. Those 15min speed ups start really adding up when multiple members of your alliance are buying packs.
iron latch
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis are you guys going to add the daily hostility mission back? It seems to not appear anymore or is the weekly event now the replacement? Kind of really enjoyed that one.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz Gonna ask if you have a ticket open on that one.
Should @merry marlin do thé same? @vagrant topaz
That player also missed on some event milestones and rewards. But i don't know if he has an open ticket or not. He did contact support.
Assuming they both do, I would say to wait for a response (if they don't I would say open one). @vagrant topaz @merry marlin
merry marlin
@vagrant topaz I Open a Ticket
vagrant topaz
Here's my open ticket note the date... @vagrant topaz
Ticket is still open and unresolved at this point.
open lava
flat beacon
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis Scopely devs/GMs may want to reconsider the length of your PvP event to 2 to 3 days if your goal is to retain players to feed to the payers. I would venture a guess that 2/3rd of your players will be paralyzed in progress and ability to even effectively play the game while this event is going on. 7 days is pretty extreme. Server councils are being held to try to contain some of the carnage in an effort to do your job to retain people but we know once the bloodbath starts, it's hard to reign it in. Just some food for thought for ya.
jagged cypress
I agree with @flat beacon a poorly planed and executed PVP event will cause a mass exodus of players form the game. It is a quick way to loose a lot of potential paying customers that are not interested in PVP. I would hope that PVP event would be an opt in event only. But from what I have seen so far with this game I doubt it.
vagrant topaz
@jagged cypress what do you mean by opt-in in this case?
tardy osprey
@flat beacon LOL @vagrant topaz, @ornate trellis and scopely could not possibly care less
people unwilling to spend money will quit
which they do NOT care about
and people who need to spend money to survive the event will spend it hand over fist
which is all they care about
your sentiment is correct and decent, which is why it will be completely ignored
$copely is just a loose collection of greedy pigs
flat beacon
@tardy osprey I agree with your notion that this is a money grab and rightfully the makers of this app should cater to those that pay. Part of the business model that sustains that revenue stream are the F2P guppies that keep those that do pay entertained. Very few people will moderately spend to be run over by big spender without some source of entertainment. Statistically those moderate spenders while spending less per player are cumulatively spending more than the high end spenders. It’s a revenue stream that keeps the game funded with the high end people being the upper managements bonuses per say. If you kill your moderate spending income source you effective kill the game. By essentially encouraging the paralyzing of the f2p player for such a long length of time you discourage the use of the app thereby removing the bottom of the food chain and the ecosystem collapses.
tardy osprey
agreed @flat beacon in general but i think they just lack the will or competence to successfully execute development of this game
which leads me to think htis is just an elaborate pump-and-dump scheme
jagged cypress
@vagrant topaz opt in could be many ways but needs to clearly be communicated. I have not been in a PVP event yet in this game so I am not sure how they work, but a few examples could be
- Alliance Admiral accepts event pulling whole Alliance into it
2)or a player attacks another players Destroyer, Exploer or Intercepter (survey craft excluded)
3)restrict event to specific areas of space, allowing for avoidance and the ablitiy for players to retreat to lick there wounds an recover.
vagrant topaz
Pvp zones would solve a lot of the issues players have with random ganking by higher lvl's chasing the leaderboards.
vagrant topaz
I presume players who want to opt out would save up their peace shields for the next few days and use them during the event
sleek zealot
Yeah, thats what weve told the lower guys in our alliance
@vagrant topaz have they ran similar events on founders or pre release? Anything you can tell us about format? Kill ships, bases, raided?
vagrant topaz
Last PvP event was all about Hull point damage inflicted, higher the level player the more points you got. Mining takes a back seat for the duration and you don't put ships out you can't afford to lose
sleek zealot
Oooh, Hull damage,... interesting..
And you get credit even if you lose the battle suppose? Or do you need to win?
vagrant topaz
Even if you lose, that was how it worked in the past though. It was very easy to pick a buddy, smash some battleships off each others base and reach the points needed for the daily trophies to qualify for the ranking event to finish off the 4th day
Yes you die get credit for lost battles
It was a drag... We had three full dat events on our server. Didnt bother afyer thé first.
It was a mess though, players who maxed the 3 qualification days didn't get the event for the 4th day and others who didn't complete at all did, I expect it will be overhauled this time around
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz why is it hull points?
The only true measure of damage inflicted to other players
vagrant topaz
Thanks for the thoughts on the events guys!
@vagrant topaz any clues as to the format of scoring for the upcoming pvp event? 😉
@vagrant topaz Don't have anything on that for you at the moment Phil. 🖖
will you have some info 'soon' 😂
astral plover
@vagrant topaz is there anything in the pipeline as to being able to upgrade 1* ship tokens to 2* etc??
elder laurel
Hull damage. Are you for real,...
fiery beacon
@astral plover @vagrant topaz I'd also like to see this, the ratios could be 20:1 but it would allow ppl to make use of useless tokens
hoary osprey
It doesn't feel right to see @vagrant topaz say he doesn't have anything for us for an event starting in a few days.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz did your colleague ( @ornate trellis ) quit? 🤔 anyway, are there any plans to make these event prizes worth of effort anytime soon?
restive smelt
How dare you say that. ^_^
Still around just this game isn't the main game for jb + holidays. ^_^
vagrant topaz
Are you JB
restive smelt
Nope... i was the leader of ORDO.( the alliance that jb is a part of... ^_^ )
vagrant topaz
🖖
vagrant topaz
Cool
ornate trellis
Hey folks, I didn't 😃
just not primarily working on STFC, but happy to be around still, and potentially help at times 🙌
sleek zealot
Hey @ornate trellis fair enough you have moved on....but if STFC isnt your primary concern, whos is it? As the best communities need attention and im sure @vagrant topaz needs the help...
ornate trellis
he definitely does and that's why i try to lend a hand here, when i can afford it
so while i've gone a bit in lurking mode, i'm still very much monitoring and passing on pressing stuff
sleek zealot
Ok cool, how is the next update going? Anything u can share with us?
ornate trellis
leaving that one to Q2 when is up
vagrant topaz
What other titles does Scopely have?
Or what other work than this game? Lol
@hoary osprey I will have more news on Events going forward.
@astral plover @fiery beacon I am not aware of anything on this currently.
@sleek zealot Hope to have news for you soon. Oh, and STFC it is my primary concern. 😃
Hi dnd. 😃
@vagrant topaz do you have any insight regarding the side events prizes, why are they so low that there’s nobody willing to do them? Even f2p players say they are too much work for nothing
Would be easy to ”fix” and get ppl more involved.
The Daily Events? I don't have any further insights, but I will take it to the team. Thanks for bringing it up.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz yep daily, weekly, monthly...
lofty rain
Why do you advertise your events with pics mentioning "UTC" while the start/end times are not even appearing on them?
sand moss
UTC = GMT or ZULU TIME, then just add your time difference from that
vagrant topaz
@sand moss i think the point was there was no time given, 10/01 UTC started over 10hours ago
vagrant topaz
thats for maintenancem the other guy was talking about this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477826021987581952/532660933198217216/unknown.png
compact condor
That's starts directly after previous ends. Theres basically a countdown
restive smelt
@vagrant topazmy bad.... lazy scrolling. ^_^
astral plover
This pre event event is pants.. ive upgraded all my ships to max level.. i can't gain anything from it unless you imorove the drop rate of uncommon ore/crystal/gas from thw refinery so that i can tier up my ship, to allow me to use the exp i have on my ships...
split flint
use on other ships in your hangar
tropic folio
@astral plover you can farm blueprints and build some older ship to claim it
astral plover
U mean waste my scarcely aquired ship exp on a ship im never gonna use.. nah im good thanks.. but cheers for ur input..
split flint
thats what i did, and also used Latinum too
tropic folio
@astral plover it depends on what you have excess of.
I almost never use ship xp - much easier to farm it out of hostiles
and get bonus chests and resourcess
astral plover
Me too, im not sure why exp gained from attacking ships doesnt count
Its just another scam for them to get u to buy packs
split flint
i am never doing that
cinder oak
Am I correct in assuming that during this Galactic Warfare event the first ships to fall will be miners like ECS Fortunate? I think this type of ship is an easy kill for most of the players. Probably during this event nobody will mine anything.
When it comes to PvP I personally attack only miners with more than 300 unprotected cargo, and bases not properly defended that have at least several thousands of resources to loot.
thick raven
You are too good for this game
astral plover
This event is just going to give those PTW people justification for attacking anything that moves within level..
And since at level 25 u can attack as low as level 18 the power balance means that its not even a close fight..
jagged cypress
I posted this in #🏆-event-chat but will post it here as well
My contructive review of the Event:
- If your going to suggest Peace Shields they should protect your ship outside the base (all other rules for peace shields come into play)
- Survey ships should have been excluded, this would allow for non-participants in the event to continue to play the next two days. Leave the battle to the Inteceptors, Battleships & Explorers
- Level Attacked should impact trophies not the player level, this would encourage more equal battles instead of bottom feeding
thick raven
This is a stupid event. It favours people who threw a lot of money at the game and frustrates everyone else. A way to kill the game.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz for the new Event it would be better to count only kill if the opponent hast same or higher Level
jagged cypress
@astral plover or even better, how about this one?
thick raven
That‘s ridiculous
jagged cypress
not that I mind my survey ship getting taken out... I expected it.. but it is a good example of the carnage over the next two days
thick raven
@vagrant topaz why is a high level ship favoured over any other level? They can kill everything snd get the easiest points for it. This is BS
granite gate
If they balanced the game, and it became a fair game for everyone, this gives some p2w less satisfaction and discourage them to spend money on such games! This shop aint cheap, Lets face the truth, most of those who pay, they want to own the server! And the first and only reason to make games is to make money! Once they make no money they will shutdown the game. Their system works and people pay and the devs are happy at the current state of the game. Thus if you want a fair game monthly subscription games is the only way to go.
boreal obsidian
guys... are you even trying to reach players???? this event is at its best @ max 5 players
get the numbers straight please.....
99% of ppl on our server couldnt even spent so much exp on crew....even if they had this kind of exp
astral plover
Yes but if u spend £49.99 you get 100k officer exp and if you spend that you are rewarded with 100k parsteel......
boreal obsidian
and spend on what crew....?
thick raven
@granite gate when people stop playing because they find out thy can‘t win anything if thy don‘t spend 100s of dollar, Scopely won‘t make as much money as they are hoping for.
boreal obsidian
i remeber old event... i got like first place x 4 times a day... cause i just didnt sleep. and got me what? nothing cause i started game 1 day later and a lvl20 player get twice the medals as a lvl 18 🙈 #hardworkpaysoff......
why dont we just compare how much money we got in our wallets? 😄 this is far more interesting game 😄
thick raven
Should be a feature next to the level. Lv24/1255$ spent.
astral plover
In Galactic Warfare Solo Milestone PvP Events, your level will determine how many trophies you can acquire:
• Lvl 10 - 12 = 1 trophy per round
• Lvl 13 - 15 = 4 trophies per round
• Lvl 16 - 17 = 12 trophies per round
• Lvl 18 - 19 = 30 trophies per round
• Lvl 20 - 24 = 65 trophies per round
• Lvl 25 - 27 = 105 trophies per round
• Lvl 28 - 29 = 140 trophies per round
• Lvl 30 - 32 = 160 trophies per round
• Lvl 33 + = 170 trophies per round
I really dont understand how this is going to work.. surely if i can only win 30 trophies and everyone above me can earn more they will win??
thick raven
Exactly
That‘s what this discussion is about. It is unfair and only benefits people buying their way up
boreal obsidian
imagin this: 1 lvl 30 player wins 1 solo event and gets 160 trophies... as a lvl 15 you would have to win 40 solo events.. which i guess wont be there .. cause 7x4 = max 24 solo events during that week event
tropic folio
@thick raven And point is what? It's exactly what they are trying to do - stimulate people who are buying their way up
boreal obsidian
and be first of what...nothing? 😃
tropic folio
@boreal obsidian you have new servers popping up constantly for that
boreal obsidian
gz on trowing money out of window... I'll go to the pub.. better drink that money XD
thick raven
There is no reason why a higher level player should get more points for something that is easier for them as for others
boreal obsidian
@tropic folio i saw that... a high lvler on a server where all othere where lvl 1-5
thick raven
Just for some people. Most have a feeling for that when it is pure greed and they close the app and find another game to play
boreal obsidian
gj and have fun... doing nothing? XD
give the ppl some kind of feeling satisfaction of accomplishment...
tropic folio
@thick raven you're still here 😃
thick raven
Not for the weekend
tropic folio
I know, I'm cynical, but this event just brings it out in me 😃
thick raven
That‘s because I don‘t really care 😜
boreal obsidian
@thick raven oooh someone got plans... 😃
thick raven
@boreal obsidian yeah ... you know... real life and s.hit
boreal obsidian
traitor 😂
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz scoring system is kinda screwed up... I van only score by killing 28+ and there s only a handfull of those around... Meanwhile, a 24 can kill my miners forum easy Points...
trim cape
yeah suck to be a buying player this time boehou what about other times u score nr1 easyly without any compatitors @vagrant topaz
quick bramble
Event really really bad so disappointed. The idea for the event is bad. The rewards are bad. Wow who actually thought this through lol
trim cape
Scoply earns money thats there goal cause u need to repair mutch more
vagrant topaz
@trim cape how do u presume to judge thé way i play?
hollow lintel
I am in the top alliance in our server and the rewards are not worth anything to over half our players. The rewards are just horrible, officers no one uses, 2* refined material who anyone over 22 dont use anymore
trim cape
there is no way there is just a few high lvl if u aint buying packs @vagrant topaz
vagrant topaz
There s about 4-5 lvl 28 on my server, 1 29 and 1 30
deft sorrel
the 30 one has to kill 30... 😄
trim cape
same on my server but this event actualy help lower player this time normaly they just get spanked as meatballs
vagrant topaz
@deft sorrel guess adama is not happy...
deft sorrel
yeah but he can still kill to get alliance points
trim cape
its not that i like the event but if the game keeps killing lower lvls they will likely stop playing and higher peeple have more rewards still its not only if u buy u will be nr1 this time but still u could repair faster if u do and u have to hunt peeple moere than lowerlevels
deft sorrel
1 point for pvp kill
vagrant topaz
Ah yes...
trim osprey
@vagrant topaz you all need to coordinate among each other and meet at certain time/location 🍻🖖
tawdry wagon
Well this event has Instantally killed the server. No ships to be seen anywhere expect those with op jellys.. Well done on killing the game for a week
vagrant topaz
@trim osprey on that already :-)
quick bramble
.
Totally agree with zyoher.
Zypher*
They killed the game for 2 days LOL
No one going to be doing anything
Log in research build and refine resources and log out
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis STUPID event. 1) ships at bases don’t count 2) no one is mining so nothing to kill!
So alliances are equipping 1* ships to let alliances slaughter them then switch.
Congrats, a totally broken, irrelevant event.
If ships at bases counted, the event would have been golden
Also I’m lv 27 and while I can kill a lv 19, I get NO credit!
The event says I must kill 24+. How stupid. The event doesn’t match the pvp range. It’s limited to +-3 levels. LAME beyond reasoning
potent fractal
@vagrant topaz agreed. Our alliance saying the same thing. Very little thought put into event and how it could be manipulated.
Each event feels like an attempt to make you feel underpowered so you feed the cash shop. Events should be fun and fair!
Huge group of loyal fans, but loyalty runs thing when the devs don't listen and connect with fan base.
minor glen
I’ll admit, I was looking forward to this. Until, I seen the details, and, honestly the crap rewards. Too much res spent for such little reward.
gray ravine
This PvP event is extremely flawed. Alliance members are able to attack one another and cheat their way to win the event!
tawdry wagon
The game is way to young for PvP events anyway. PvP events should be when it's mature and there is more of a level playing field
compact condor
that depends on the server, but yes
past vine
some people on my server are temporarily leaving their alliances so they can fight with people in their alliance.
hasty glen
It's basically a "no mining for 48 hours" event
jagged cypress
Sounds like we need an alliance cooldown too..
leave you can't come back for X time, join you dont get perks for X time an excluded from current events
hasty glen
I mean before was bad enough on other servers, with people constantly attacking miners for "teh lulz" (usually p2w players it seemed), but now? Everyone has a reason to attack miners even though the miners aren't risking anything
minor glen
@vagrant topaz this is what the event has done....
mild juniper
@vagrant topaz EVENT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. Sorry for the ping, but legit players are legit HURTING by this cheat/ exploit, worst event launched so far.... People on my server are actually quitting the game and have said they 'Regret' spending money on this game.... NOT GOOD PR AT ALL.
The team needs to get in front of this and address the issues ASAP
We can't do anything against this WITHOUT cheating ourselves.....
DON'T MAKE US ALL CHEAT THE GAME,.......
trim cape
same on my server some just take out in planned manner. @vagrant topaz
alliances trading kills so they get higher ranking its calles statpadding in othergames
in other words exploiting
mild juniper
It's worse than that
Players can leave an alliance - use their miners - with only one officer on board and allow their alliance to grind points... when the player then rejoins they have the exact same point they left with. With the other player then doing the same thing and repeat.
mild juniper
Legit destroyed ..... @vagrant topaz
chilly path
This pvp event is fucked up. A lvl 28 can slaughter a lvl 21 ship and get a single point. But a lvl 21 kills a lvl 19 and gets nothing. How does this make any sense at all.
jagged delta
I was one of the idiots that moved to 20 the day before the game, so almost nothing I can get points from outside miner swapping
modest elm
This Cosmic carnage event is really not what it is suppose to be. What happens now is friendly alliances swapping kills no real battles take place anywhere. Sorry but the event is a miss and not a hit
vagrant topaz
Honestly if they changed the event to be based on power destroyed and scaled the required power destroyed by op level it would fix this event totally
low geode
Or just exclude some ships like the fortunate.
Then people won’t be trading blows or if they do it will be costly
cerulean glacier
That wouldn't even matter, we've got people in our system trading anything up to the phindra, because they paid to win so hard that they never needed to upgrade it
celest oracle
@mild juniper if players are quitting because of the event and the way it’s designed so be it quit away...the real reason for quitting should be the useless rewards LOL g2 uncommons for solo...haven’t used g2 uncommons for 4 levels...and the officers (station defence) complete poop rewards.
I have to kill lvl 24-28s I can count them with my finger that’s how many players I have to kill outside my alliance.
mild juniper
Thats just solo event the one im pissed with is the exploit farm of the main event
Im not trying to compete against those screwing the system
If you leave an alliance you shouldn't be able to be farmed for points and rejoin with all your previous points
It was designed VERY wrong
vagrant topaz
Yep an ally leaving returning ban time should have been in place be4 the event started. But it wasn't so nothing to be angry about. And using of cheaper ships isn't any wrong either. And a result from a bad balanced game RSS/repair.
hasty hemlock
@vagrant topaz suggestion for future pvp events. Scale points by ship type killed - 3* = 4 points, 2* = 2 points, 3* or 2* survey = 1 point, 1* ships = no points
Much more fair than scaling by ops level
celest oracle
@mild juniper scopely won’t be able to do anything about that...they can’t prove it. We have a sub alliance, unless we mention it to the galaxy that this is our sub alliance who would know...
It’s the same as agreeing with the enemy to trade kills for points and rewards. Which is what is happening
It’s merely a different tactic or approach at getting your points...
hasty hemlock
Honestly though the biggest issue is the alliance event awarding a point per kill instead of just going off trophies like the previous pve event
celest oracle
Pretty sure it’s a trophy event rugged
Oh it’s trophy + pvp wins...so it’s not capped
hasty hemlock
Yep
celest oracle
I get why they did this thought it would give smaller alliances a fighting chance lol
Basically the alliance that plays the most has the opportunity to win.
But realistically a group of two players can win the alliance event by trading kills all day
So it’s flawed
vagrant topaz
Hmm small ally have almost none chance. Big ally with big guns get so much more points from solo its almost impossible to beat
hasty hemlock
Yea
hasty hemlock
Like straight trophy is flawed as long as they award more points based on ops level but only have 1 bracket of competition
frail agate
All this event seems to have done is make every ship run for home. Each system is as quiet as a grave. No one is mining. Usually busy systems are dormant. Next time you run this event exclude survey ships. At least then ppl can mine.
low geode
Wasn’t that their intention? To give everyone a few days off. Why else would they be giving 3 day peace shields in the event leading up to this one?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523973998783234051/532666189437206550/image0.png
Says right there “as the heat of battle blazes on you can use a peace shield to protect yourself from the chaos”
west veldt
No chaos in my server, just people hiding or wandering the empty stars.
sand moss
don't get any points for basing someone, no need for peace shields imo
vagrant topaz
If u kill the ships there, it should
fringe bane
Can we all agree this is a horrible event and just end it NOW. Why drag this out?
delicate merlin
I love the event it’s opened mining in not popular area perfect
river nexus
welp, there you go, they changed the event.
fringe bane
@river nexus I don’t see it. What’s changing?
river nexus
@fringe bane at least for my server, it's 1pt/pvp kill regardless of level now
fringe bane
🤣 Can we use Speed Ups to end the event quicker? Asking for a few thousand friends.
river nexus
lmao, I wish...I've run out of gas and ore to refine!
hasty hemlock
@vagrant topaz thank you for changing the solo event to straight 1 pt 1 kill, much less tedious now
delicate merlin
My envoy just came back with 7k ore good mining while everyone is exploiting the event
vagrant topaz
@delicate merlin maybe you should announce that in your server chat? Not sure if someone gives af
tired aurora
How about some real rewards I'm not spending cash on repairs for 8 uncommon g3 let's up it to 20/25 per 4 hrs and then maybe
delicate merlin
@vagrant topaz I did and then sent out another miner at 4 k with him lol when they normally come back with less than a k I’m stoked now
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz
At L14, a player now has to get 60 PvP wins to get four Alliance Silver Trophies. BUT for the Alliance event, those 4 alliance trophies are worth 3 points each and each PvP kill is also worth a point, so, effectively the 60 individual PvP wins gives the player's alliance 72 points for the Alliance event.
However for a L24 player it is still only 60 PvP wins, but they get 40 alliance silver trophies! Those 40 alliance trophies are worth 3 points each and each PvP kill is also worth a point, so, effectively the 60 individual PvP wins gives their alliance 180 points for the Alliance event. SO, for the same effort, a PvP win ON AN OPPONENT AT ANY LEVEL gives 72 points for a L14 player but 180 points for a L24 player. How is that "balanced"?
timber delta
Balancing was not part of the plan.
tired aurora
Welcome to the desperate for cash event...game is dying writing is on the wall
ornate mica
@timber delta ... there was a plan???
timber delta
@ornate mica yeah, annoy everyone, get as much cash as possible in a few weeks and than let the game die.
ornate mica
@timber delta ... seems that way.
tired aurora
CBS is already going a different direction with trek so what's stopping them from pulling the license from scopley
timber delta
@ornate mica they are experienced in doing so. See TWD. Also heard that STFC makes 5 million $ a week.
That is a lot for not doing anything.
tired aurora
They dont have the player base for 5mil a week
vagrant topaz
Well , on my server, there's at LEAST 100 people that have spent 3K-6K in the last month
That's 300k-600k right there
and bet there are 10-20 servers
ornate mica
What sort of idiot spends $US6000 on this???
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica People who are already Lv 28-30 on my server have spent 6k
people who also make a LOT of money spend that much
@ornate mica anyone who is 1M power or more, on the newer servers, has spent at LEAST 2K
tired aurora
I know 4 guys in mine all 28 and above but they didnt spend 4k more like 1k
ornate mica
People who are bullies and failures in real life pay that much money just to "be important". Very sad!
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora you must be on an older server
tired aurora
Lmao nope brand new
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica no it has nothing to do with bullies or failures
@tired aurora if it's brand new, they aren't being honest, cuz I know what I spent
tired aurora
I'm almost 600k only spend 300.00
vagrant topaz
1.5M = about 3K right now
tired aurora
I'm friends with them lmao
vagrant topaz
2M = 6K total
ornate mica
I'm 1.1m power ... spent $US 10!!!
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica you must be on an OLD server
@ornate mica if people went from new to 1.5M in < 1 month, it's 3K
well 6 weeks
ornate mica
They have more money than sense, I guess.
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica my alliance has a lot of lawyers, DRs, surgeons, etc
and they make 100k-400k/yr
tired aurora
It's all on how u play
vagrant topaz
so 6k is nothing to them
ornate mica
Spending ANYTHING on a game that is going down the gurgler is just plain crazy,
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica dont think it will. they will eventually fix it up
the game runs from paying people... scopley doesn't care about free players
tired aurora
I leveled up from 14 to 19 in two weeks no money spent...spent the 300.00 to get past the pay wall at 19 and havbt spent since
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz ... many of us have been saying that since August ... then since November ... then since December ... ... ...
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica until it was released, they had little to no dev team
They just hirred 15 new devs right b4 xmas
and that will take time for them to code and fix stuff
unkempt juniper
Yet without free players p2w players have noone to dominate or bully so they get bored and leave. A fremium service needs the free as much as the premium
vagrant topaz
@unkempt juniper all the free players are too low for me too attack
ornate mica
AND since its release THEY broke crew mining buffs and have not been able to fix it .. some great development team there, I must say,.
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica oh I dont think they are broken. I think they are DISABLED on purpose tbh
The more people are starved.. the more they wlil shell out $$$
tired aurora
Game is designed to let f2p guys catch up level up take forever after a certain level
vagrant topaz
and now suddenly there's a NEW mining ship coming? why didn't they fix the old ones? answer: they want you to pay for it
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz ... I actually agree with you. It is manipulation bordering on consumer criminality ... at least, in Australia it would be.
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora thats true... I'm lv 27.. and I wont hit 28 for a couple months
by then a Lot of the free players will be Lv 22-23 and can be hit by me
tired aurora
Plus if your patient at lvl 20 you can max your kehra
vagrant topaz
No.. u cant max it
at tier 5 it requires rare 3*
and no one gets rare unless the refinery is at LEAST lv 25
tired aurora
Umm cash lol
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora u sure you're not an a founder server? cuz only they get those packs
and you can't buy rares with latinum
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz ... I know we have butted heads before, but, believe me, on my server at L24 I can refine RARE G3 rss.
tired aurora
Nope canadian
vagrant topaz
@ornate mica they can.. it's just RARE they can
@ornate mica but you're on an older server which is not in "hard mode"
ornate mica
No ... it's in BLOODY IMPOSSIBLE MODE!!!
tired aurora
I've got 300 rare atm and tier 6 kehra at lvl 22 pretty I can get uncommon
ornate mica
Anyway ... nice chatting ... I now have to get back to my mining and refining.
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora then that's a beta/pre release server hehe
"new" servers came out Dec 1
tired aurora
Yup
vagrant topaz
and they are in SUPER hard mode
we can't buy rares, you can't get refined rare until L25.. even then it's like a 1% chance
and if you're LUCKY , even at lv 27, you get like 10 uncommons per WEEK
tired aurora
I find it easy...just gotta do want the devs dont want u to do
vagrant topaz
it's STUPID
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora yeah but we can't max them on my server which sucks
I bet it's a TIME thing
as time goes on , they make the servers "easier"
so people don't quit
Probably in 2-3 months, my server will be like yours
tired aurora
Lol problem with my server is we have one group all 1mil plus guys in one alliance it's almost game breaking
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora I'm in the top alliance on mine and 1/2 of us are 1M... we gathered the whales right off the bat
tired aurora
Yeah well these guys have a 30 mil power advantage lmao
fair cedar
@vagrant topaz just to inform you, from a player on a founding server. The only way to get rare is refining, it IS NOT available in any pack to buy.
We are in the same boat as all the others.
vagrant topaz
@fair cedar I was wondering about that.. but someone here is saying they can buy it
tired aurora
Not true in mine anyway...if u have at least one uncommon thing or rare u can fill it with latnuim
vagrant topaz
TBH I want to see screenshots of Rare 3* in the store packs so we can pressure scopely
fair cedar
Nope. There is one $80 research pack that you can buy 75 rare ore, but that is it.
vagrant topaz
@fair cedar probably a prime research pack
fair cedar
No crystal or gas
tired aurora
People do it all the time on my server
vagrant topaz
and nothing else.. and if people spent those packs on anything else, they are SCREWED
sleek zealot
@fair cedar @vagrant topaz .... rare is available to buy at later levels. @vagrant topaz confirmed it the other day, opens at either 30 or 33, we arent sure which as phil only started buying packs at 34 😬
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealot I figured it might, but people are claiming they can buy it at LV25 in this room
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora TBH I want to see screenshots of buying 3* uncoimmon and rares with lat .. because if thats the case, we need to pressure scopely
(keep in mind, prime packs do NOT count as they are only for that particular prime research)
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz possible on the older servers, phil is on alph/beta whatever its called. He still only gets 100 uncommon with those mega packs. Not even a full weapon upgrade. Things have to change
I dont mind spending, but im not an idiot. 😬
vagrant topaz
and if people spent it on other stuff, they are SCREWED out of that prime research for a LONG time
@sleek zealot I get 80,60,60.. 60,80,60.. or 60,60,80 uncommons in my 99$ packs
it's absurd... plus it's flooded with useless 2* crap
tired aurora
sleek zealot
Yeah, same. 26 rn, will be 27 in a few days
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora thats a PRIME pack
tired aurora
I CAN only get crystal atm
sleek zealot
Im just taking it slow
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora that's ONLY make for prime research.
you're not tupposed to use it for anything else
tired aurora
Lol u can buy it as much as u want
vagrant topaz
@tired aurora well that's not a normal pack.. that's a prime research graphic on it
and those are supposed to be highly limited
tired aurora
Nope unlimited
vagrant topaz
Scopely is going to have a huge backlash if they are giving that to u unlimited
tired aurora
We have guys with maxxed ships a lvl 25
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis why can Lv 25s on a server buy this stuff, where as on mine, we are stuck with GARBAGE packs that are useless?
now im going to HOUND them every day until they give an answer
tired aurora
Unless there hacking they got 230k plus kehras before lvl 26
tired aurora
That's the exchange rate
vagrant topaz
it could be they will show up on our server in a few months
tired aurora
Not sure my man I just know those kehras r real
No other to get them there that quickly
vagrant topaz
NOw watch that be a bug and scopely removes those packs
tired aurora
Well I know there dealing will apk hacks up here atm
Already flagged like 4 guys nothing was done
vagrant topaz
oh i know, you can get a hacked apk that lets you buy packs for free
I think there's 2 on my server doing it, and all I get is "we will look into it"
tired aurora
Lmao
Theres a lvl 33 that doesnt cheat know him well good guy gets his fed ship wrecked by kehras all the time always one of those 4 guys
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis @vagrant topaz
We does this server get to purchase rares when most others can not?
sleek zealot
Wow, that is a lot of rare! A bit scary to think something needs that much when I can refine 1 a year, lol
vagrant topaz
You should check wat kind of rares it is
I suspect the 300 are g4 rares
And this is a screenshot from a speciazlized package. Designed to upgrade a PRIME research
Such as PRIME piercing...
G4 rares are useless (for now) except for those specific PRIME researches
@vagrant topaz that’s what I thought, but the person says that pack is unlimited on their server
sleek zealot
Actually yeah, @tired aurora please click on the rare, show us if G3 or G4.
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealot @vagrant topaz @vagrant topaz that s a single purchase prime research pack that has g4 rare material in it
There s 3 or 4 of those
Different ones that is
sleek zealot
@tired aurora swore blind it was 3* and unlimited.. hoping he will show us
But yeah, thats what we think it is also @vagrant topaz
small sorrel
This is a prime research pack you can only purchase one of those.
sleek zealot
Ok, thanks @small sorrel
vagrant topaz
Yep. Well no one will believe @tired aurora anymore.
vagrant topaz
It would be quite insane, of they offered a g3 rare x 300 package on one server but not the others :)
vagrant topaz
Keep in mind also that as far as I can tell, the packs that you can buy at any given time are highly dependent on what packs you have previously purchased. You will only see some packs if you've purchased the corresponding lower-level pack. Plus some of the specific packs won't show up unless you're at a point where you can use them. That's just my own observation, but it might help explain some of the discrepancies between what folks are seeing in their 'offers' tab
viral harbor
@vagrant topaz @vagrant topaz I have bought a lot of packs and that is just not the case. People 20 levels below me have the exact same options.
vagrant topaz
Ahhh, yeah, that's why I heavily qualified that statement. 😃 All I know is that I don't see the same packs that my other Alliance members see, and the packs change everytime I make a purchase.
Just thought it might help explain some of the differences, but no drama if not.
compact condor
as soon as you start paying the packs change
long pike
I was told that if you don't buy anything for a week the smaller packs will show up again. I don't know that firsthand.
balmy nymph
Thank you for changing the event
empty vector
Well I have all the primes done thru buying, and now packs are garbage, sometimes I get 2 packs for the same price and the same type of pack but with huge differences
Like 500 Latinum and 20 more uncommon in one pack then the other
I have screenshots of it, but it is quite a bit, so not sure if I should spam it here
Also same as yesterday people who bought the special event pack were getting 75 mil tritanium
Today it is 7 mil
sleek zealot
Did they actually get 75 mil tho. Or it just said 75
I saw the 75 mil pack. Didnt buy it
I also now see it says 7
Would be interesting if it gave 75
empty vector
I am not sure, I stopped spending as the amount to level up is stupid
Specially when every building needs uncommon
I know 1 guy on the server I am is 31, think he spent like over 20 k so far
vagrant topaz
Lame
regal hinge
Please do NOT let survey ship kills count towards this galactic warfare event, this has stopped all mining everywhere. This is the worst event ever in my opinion
vast spire
Better rewards for this type of event would be nice too... Considering the time spent on it it's really crap prizes even if your team is in top 5.
untold stratus
These events should include -10 points when attacking survey ships. Go earn your points fighting active battleships not weak mining ships.
delicate merlin
I’m a little upset they changed the solo event to a 1 for 1 cause with levels it gave the smaller players a chance to shine over the big whales and now they can just hit everything and gain points, so you basically killed every little alliance and gave the rewards to all the super cheaters
hasty hemlock
I disagree, I'm lvl 18 and finding targets to score points off was a serious chore without a jelly before the 1 to 1 change
vagrant topaz
@delicate merlin and so can you
Now it is equal grinding for everyone
Except the alliance trophys arent
toxic aspen
Event still sucks though. 100K ships taking out 8K mining ships is stupid. If they want a PvP event they should at least make it a challenge, not just how many survey ships can you rack up.
compact condor
not all servers suck that much, I see tons of Survey vessels mining on mine
vagrant topaz
Maybe next time, call this event "Galactic shutdown".
It sounds correct: a small area of the galaxy is fighting over nothing, all think they are winning and the rest is closed for business.
clever dawn
I have been mining consistently for the last 2 days, except for the opening hours, and since this is the case I stopped hitting miners again
timid turtle
wow my server is practically dead in comparison
crude swift
next axle
My alliance is over 31.8k with just under 3 hours left and we wish it was over tbh.
We are 20k ahead of the 2nd place alliance
vagrant topaz
Ok nice, interesting to see that almost every server is at the same Points in the Top3
Top 1*
nova siren
All go ideas and suggestion please my post need you
compact condor
Nice exploit 😂
cobalt cargo
Not at all. Played the way it was intended. Kill other alliances
compact condor
The exploit is that too
cobalt cargo
If pvp is hitting other players and you call it an exploit, then I guess yes.
compact condor
Well the exploit where player on purpose fly their weakest ships is still pvp.
cobalt cargo
The event is hit other players. Does not say how to hit them. There was no ship requirement I read. Only certain lvls, then changed to all lvl you could hit
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis New event rewards look great, but can we get something other than 3* Uncommon Ore next time please. This is twice in a row. Gas preferred, but makes most sense just to cycle through them, thanks! 👍
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealot i was just about to come here and ask how the f someone designed the rewards?
Its pure nonsense. Enormous grinding and if you want anything decent from the boxes, the rss cost for repairing is huge
fallen jewel
I haven't gotten my rewards from the Alliance event.
sleek zealot
@vagrant topaz im faction farming daily anyway, so anything is a bonus tbh.
compact condor
Can we get working rewards? New crew bonus doesn't work (shocker, none of the crew works)
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealot i get 75 uncommon crystal for milestone 2...
Lvl 28 though
So light ben different for lower lvls
G3 uncommon crystal, checked it twice
gritty crag
What event is that? i get 60 uncommen but that is G2 lvl 25
gray pine
real minnow
@vagrant topaz what do you mean by milestone 2 please? I'm level 27 and face the same problem everyday. Refining often gives nothing in refined materials G3 (gaz, ore , crystal)
gray pine
26lvl
gritty crag
25 the same Red
G3 is the money maker for scopely, worst is that you can´t buy with latinum, have like 13k and it is close to useless
vagrant topaz
@real minnow thé milestone at 165 points
Max.milestone is for me 4m parsteel and 15 uncommon G3 ore, don't know amount of Common
Milestones in ascending order, 75, 165, 300+ and 660.
For a lvl 28
I wonder why at lvl 27 we still have G2 ressources as rewards ...
Especially when I see that at lvl 28 you have 75 uncommon G3 refined crystals that I don't see a piece
vagrant topaz
Same rewards for lvl 27
sleek zealot
Kk, thx
real minnow
that's so badly designed. You can get 75 G3 crystal refined when you're level 28 plus the 15 g3 refined ore. As for me level 27, all that I can get as refined material is 9 g3 refined ore
gray pine
why on level 26 and 27 resources G2? @vagrant topaz
real minnow
@vagrant topaz do you have refinery 28 and, if so, what did it require to be buiit please? (uncommon g3 materials)
vagrant topaz
Don't know yet, Cant build it yet, need a shipyard 28 first and still need 70 uncommon G3 crystal for that
last tiger
@vagrant topaz notice the #2 is common gas and not uncommon? Typical!! I need uncommon gas to lvl my RnD to 28
next axle
Think their is some uncommon gas in other daily events, not much but it all adds up
upbeat oasis
I'm 28, can't complete the event with ease, same happens to the rest of high level players.
It's been 1 week that I can't complete dailies up to last chest cause it's too hard, same happen with some events.
I don't think it's very hard to make events we all can complete, it's not fair that a lower level can kill about 80 ships before repairing and I can only kill like 20 because my ships need a ton of rss to be upgraded, so I can not complete the event.
All events are the same, I'm happy that lower level players can complete them and get the rewards but I should be able to complete them too
vagrant topaz
I m a lvl 28 as Well, no problem doing it... I atk lvl 28 Battleship with a 130k power kehra and van kill a good amount before repair. My two envoys and one horizon are on trit mine duty for repair purposes
I lose some trit in thé process, hut plan on seeking out inactive bases to Rob clean
vagrant topaz
@upbeat oasis you should not be level 28 if you are not able to kill same level or a bit lower hostiles without big loss
You have rushed your level too high which is in many games called as fluff power
(I’m level 25 and I can kill level 28 without major loss)
@vagrant topaz almost all events are cost negative for Tri and Dil for all level players, the events team needs to look at the effort required and repair costs that go with them to get to at least a cost neutral scenario.
Otherwise you are just trading your time Tri and and Dil for parsteel and a small amount of G3 materials
vagrant topaz
These events are way too exhausting and time consuming & resource negative as said above. I don’t mind hard & difficult & rss consuming events, but they payout needs to be good. The smaller the level the better the pay.
rancid cedar
@vagrant topaz you get it. Grats.
vagrant topaz
@rancid cedar eventually I would like to see this game as a pvp one, sooner the smaller level players achieve bigger levels, the better the combat is.
rancid cedar
This game is pvp...u just have to choose to do it. You also have to be a deuche to do it without provication. Choice eh? Be a deuche canoe or not?. Rewards limited for the latter.
restive smelt
What lower levels get 80 SHIPS before repairing? Sheesh.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz @pure ginkgo this event is missing and not active… All we are getting is the solo version… No alliance event and no leaderboard
deft sorrel
and why do i have to kill level 24+ hostiles as level 24 player and a level 22 player gets points for level 20 hostiles?
compact condor
cause you get way better rewards (I would hope)
deft sorrel
no you dont
7 vs 9 uncommon g3 ore IIRC
dont upgrade beyond level 23 untill you have a 100k schip i wish i could downgrade same problem last ore event 😦
upbeat oasis
@vagrant topaz @vagrant topaz My ships are 130k, 125k and 122k, one of each class, all my buildings are almost 28 and all my research is up to date. When I can kill maybe 15-25 level 28 ships (Non faction) before going to a 1h15m repair without help and a lower level player from my guild can get 107 points in one run, I'm sorry, I don't think it's fair. Both dailies and most events are harder to complete the higher you get, forcing you to spend if you want to finish them, that makes them not fair when u get high
They should tweak the events and rewards so everyone has same chances to win
I could finish the event but it would be very time consuming and the only rewards I truly need are the rank 2
I was just pointing that the amount of time it takes for me to complete is MUCH MORE high than the amount of time a lower player takes, and being honest, nobody wants to be that much time playing to complete, at least I don't.
chilly path
Still haven’t gotten my pvp prizes yet...
vagrant topaz
@upbeat oasis im level 25 (well just went to operations 26) and I could do my ships easily to 115-120k. With doing research I can do at level 26, they’ll increase quite a bit over yours. If your research is up to date, you are doing something wrong.
Otherwise I agree with you, but I still prefer lower level playes to get better chances, so they can narrow the gap between higher level players faster.
These events are currently very bad pointless joke, so any improvement is welcome.
acoustic vigil
Y’all are getting blessed with that 75 3* uc crystal. Honestly I don’t think they meant to give that much y’all should stop posting screenshots. During last event the 99$ galactic pack was giving me 75m trit and nobody else had more then 9m in theirs. I bought two got 150m. I posted screenshot on discord. Went later to buy 2 more was fixed to 9mil
There is no way they meant to give 75uc 3* crystal. Specially as the second reward and the main reward is less uc gas. Think about it..
That’s 150 in 2 days that’s 200$ y’all getting blessed
Hopefully they leave it cuz I’m jumping from 26 to 28 tonight
last tiger
That's from lowest to highest. It's cheaper to just kill till I get the 2nd tier bonus
Or the 75 g3 uc chrystals
165 pts
I need g3 uc gas
😒
uneven relic
It's funy how they can fix things like that quick smart, but others have been broken for months.
And I didn't realise there was supposed to be an alliance event combined with the Solo, as on our server its the same, Only the Solo, and no Alliance Portion.
@vagrant topaz any answer to this, should we have the Alliance version also?? because the last 2 days we haven't had an alliance one, only the Solo Hostile.
acoustic vigil
@last tiger y post it lol u saw what happen to my 75m trit pack lol
vagrant topaz
@acoustic vigil it s intended to ben that much. Last pve event, thé 6 hours events paid lvl 28 and up 25 of those crystals Every time
They wouldnt make thé same mistake twice. Reason why escapes me
acoustic vigil
Lol yeah but you would think 75 uc crystals would least be 3rd or max prize. But max prize is 12 uc gas. Come on bro u know this isn’t right. I’m happy they doing it cuz I’m on route to 28 but u can look and tell something’s funny lol
@vagrant topaz
They put 75m trit in that pack lol. I bought two. Not cuz the 75 but just cuz. I posted a screenshot lol they changed it to 9m
vagrant topaz
Max is 15 uncommon ore for me. Amount are weird, yes. But from memory crystal wasn't needed in large amounts before and is now. Costs tot upgrade building we're reduced some time ago bit not upgrades to ships. And that s where most crystal is needed
Lucky you then @acoustic vigil
acoustic vigil
All I’m saying is they’ve made so many mistakes that’s all I wouldn’t be surprised if they fix it. Hope they don’t
vagrant topaz
We ll sez
vagrant topaz
@acoustic vigil post a pic of the 9m one I wanna see
acoustic vigil
I do the raiding buddy
vagrant topaz
So ur top
acoustic vigil
Nah I’m like #7 or 8 in power
celest oracle
vagrant topaz
Got in a car accident yesterday gotta pay those bills
My credit card will be hurting
vagrant topaz
@uneven relic You should have seen it. Don't know why it was missing for you specifically.
median oxide
Why does Hadley not show up for the top 3 ranks for the current alliance event?
median oxide
would be nice if the top three ranks for winning the alliance event were able to get Hadley. Have to catch them all.
compact condor
Agreed
gritty crag
@vagrant topaz are you going to do something about the bugged rewards for lvl 28? lower lvl will never be able to close the gab to this.
Atm ad lvl 25 i get like 20 uncommen G3 in 30 days
The event is 7 days giving them 525 for free i get approx 240 in a year so i am looking ad more then 2 years GG
gray pine
This is not a bug, but a weak reward for levels 25-27, since it is not clear why there are resources G2 in the award @vagrant topaz
uneven relic
Yea @vagrant topaz we haven’t had the Alliance event showing since the end of the PVP event, only our Solo event, it’s only just shown up now.
wicked star
@clone
This alliance event sucks! There is not syhnorizaied points count. You hit 3 above your level you get less points then you hit a level 15 hostile.. What a shit event. Shame on you devs!
sand turtle
Can the Devs pleas explain the non logical erratic points being given for hostile killing, it makes no sense at all and is completely frustrating.
hasty hemlock
It's 1 point for each point of damage done to hostile. The scoreboard pop-up updates when you kill something. So if your alliance racks up several kills in between each of yours the score will appear inflated
sand turtle
That helps explain if that is what is happening, thank you
hasty hemlock
Yw, you can notice it if your chain killing hostiles the number stays fairly consistent based on level, but have a pause and the next one seems very inflated
wicked star
@hasty hemlock I disagree. Killing for example level 26 hostile should not get you less points killing a level 1 hostile who gives 100k. And yes one as a streak system, but even with breaks is not constant. People where hitting much lover hostiles then they level and got more of people who where attacking much higher ones getting less points. It's disgusting and not fair. People constantly repairing thinking hitting much stronger hostiles will bring more points. We tried all kind of diffrent tactics, but there was no pattern...
hasty hemlock
Idk what to tell you. I get less points hitting an 18 than I do a 19 for the alliance event. I stick to 18s because they score the same on the solo event for me
If you mean they can rack up a higher score because they can take out many more enemies before they have to repair then I guess I get it? But the difficulty curve is exponental in this game so it's inevitable
thorn glen
How can you deal more damage than shield and hulls of target? Is there over kill dmg being reported and tallied?
sacred scarab
@wicked star You're misunderstanding what you're seeing. You're seeing the collective points increase of your alliance every time you get an update. You are NOT seeing the points you're getting for your kill, which is why it constantly goes up and down based on what other people in your alliance are doing. If you made an alliance with just you in it you could get an accurate point count for each kill. As is, damage only seemed to be counted against hull so hull health of your target seemed to match up with points gained pretty well for me
uneven relic
And the alliance event is missing again...
The new round should’ve started, but it’s not there.
vagrant topaz
@uneven relic i know how u feel
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz again I didn't receive the award from latest event shud been 25 Hadley.
And I haven't got the carnigie event reward either.
Why do u keep pushing these event with bugged awards IF u even receive them.
uneven relic
Yup same, I didn’t recieve the shards either, also for Hendorff, I should have recieved 5, we got 17th, which is weird because the winner window says we got 16th, but still the same prize, but didn’t get the Officer shards.
sterile jolt
@vagrant topaz thanks for the recent events, only one suggestion maybe mix the rewards up a little bit. The Hostile pve one lots of my guys smashed through it but the repair costs in Trit with back to back events means they now have millions of Parasteel and next to no Trit, mix up the rewards to give a balance? 😄
vagrant topaz
They will be thankful for the parsteel around lvl24 trust me...also makes a good baserape buffer
sterile jolt
agreed but a little mix up throw some trit in maybe the mid tier reward helps the lower levels. On my server the vast majority are not lvl 24+ yet 😄
uneven relic
Also what’s happened to getting Ship XP from hitting hostiles?? Used to get it added to your Ship XP inventory if you’ve maxed you ship level, but not anymore. I did all 3 tiers and my Ship XP in my items hasn’t changed at all.
tropic folio
@uneven relic When did it do that? I farmed tons of xp starting with the previous hotile event in Dec and already since then the only way I got in the inventory is from drops or awards.
restive smelt
@tropic folio thwt's the way i knew it worked too.
jagged delta
You only get XP if your ship is tiered up and needs to go up a level. If you are max level for tier, the xp is lost.
vagrant topaz
Scopely should make it so that events are immune to obsessive behavior in my opinion. Using that solo portion with a limited amount of points to count toward the alliance portion of the event, like you did in past events, would be much better and also promote activity from every members instead of being carried by a few players only.
An activity counter for alliance members would also be priceless.
tawny wedge
Would be nice if we get bonus rewards for alliances reaching points like 100k, 250k, 500k, 1 million and so on. As not every alliance can compete for ranks.
fiery trench
I didnt get the alliance event rewards!
misty token
Officer should level up if assigned to a ship
uneven relic
Yea it think it might have been since the grand opening it stopped maybe, im on a Secpnd tier server, so, it used to be like that I think since they’ve been slowly changing us to be like the rest a lot of things we have been used too are no longer, but i find it hard to get the ship XP, like even for the event it has the ship events for using the Ship XP, they should change it to include if you use your ship and it gains XP also, because that’s the only way to do it for me right now, as I don’t have enough Ship XP to level my ships, the only way is through hitting hostiles
But the only way is the very small amounts in boxes and rewards, unlike the 600k Officer XP that I get everywhere, I can’t use it fast enough, even attacking hostiles I get more Officer XP in the loot boxes, then Ship XP
How else can we get Ship XP.
tropic folio
@uneven relic you can buy it with Latinum or in the ship pack 😃 Which is what they want you to do :)))
uneven relic
Yea exactly it’s stupid, I buy lots of other stuff, why not make at least a few things easy,
tropic folio
easy things - that's a different game
uneven relic
Also had a Oh Fuck moment, I went to use my Premium Recruit token on a crate, get an error message that it could not go through, and lose my tokens, they didn’t get returned to my token stash @vagrant topaz
tropic folio
uneven relic
😂😂😂😂 yup 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
fossil mica
@uneven relic it does actually open and give you the tokens, you just won't know what you got unless you knew your quantities beforehand
plush sierra
I don't know if it has been mentioned before but for the current hostile Alliance Leaderboard event, there is to much of a gap as you increase OPS level. I was on LVL 15 and could get 2 points for a lvl 16 hostile and 3 pts for a lvl 17. Then I leveled up OPS to LVL 16. Now lvl 16 AND 17 hostiles only give 1 point. The ops increase did not do much to impact the power of my ships so I am at a significant disadvantage by leveling up. You can't have a global event if different players are playing it with different rulers measuring their performance.
magic vapor
Agree @plush sierra , I was 23 yesterday and could get points from 18, now at lvl 24, can only get points starting at lvl 24 hostiles, that's a harsh transition
vale tangle
Also, the event "special bundle" gives less of every item than the same priced "normal" ship bundle... Is this a typo?
vagrant topaz
LOL
Thats actually really funny
you know whats even more funny
is that it says its 50% off
vagrant topaz
Alliance leaderboard event : the event duration is too short so some players in specific timezones can’t participate. A longer duration would do it.
vagrant topaz
But there's a need for a participation limit for all players though! Otherwise scores will be terribly skewed if some alliances have players with obsessive tendencies 😩
coarse zealot
It would be nice if events tracked individual performance on an alliance level, so people can see their points in comparison to the rest of those in the alliance and so officers can track activity.
Quick code with an added tab on the event tracker would do the trick
vagrant topaz
@coarse zealot agree
brazen chasm
Obsessive Tendencies. That's a great name for an alliance!
hoary osprey
OCD declares war on ADD
worthy osprey
Let's take bets on who wins...
brave hazel
@hoary osprey and @worthy osprey - OCD is too focused on proper alignments of their player's ships and are too busy to fire a shot and ADD has started playing Farmville, no now it's Candycrush, or Facebook... I give up.
green relic
Look! A squirrel!
rancid cedar
@vagrant topaz not really mate. Re alliance event, it being based on dmg dealt, takes all of 20min with 1 ship hitting lvl28s to 30s to get +3m points. That said, for solo event i get 1 point for lvl27 and 4 for lvl30+. Given the cost to repair, achieving the 660 points for solo is extremely counterproductive at my level vs rewards.
vagrant topaz
@rancid cedar They will still need to think of something though, because killing hostiles for so many hours is the best way to burn out they players. If they keep doing these half-assed grinding events for a quick variety fix, it won't end well. Even shamelessly copying fun events from other games would be better than just grinding ones. Tomorrow's update seems to be a lot of good work though, so I'm staying hopeful!
rancid cedar
@vagrant topaz yeah. Was deployed on our server last night. Havent had much of a chance today to play but mining is def better. I did lose some ship power...have not figured out why as yet. Refining went from 3 to 2 of each g3 but rate and size of nodes improved. A bit of a pointless 'fix' tbh as refining reduced by 1 third. The new mining ship is of little to no benefit to ppl with horizons or faction miners already. Maybe in another 6 months we'll get a middle and the start of some kind of end game.
cold grail
I wish to add a compliment though. I am playing and Enjoy the game
vagrant topaz
mining is harder now, sooooooooooooo many broken nodes
lots of ppl fighting over the few working nodes
restive smelt
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis don't mean to be a little bitch.... but what about us f2p players? I've been waiting for a whole month to get the dominion event and have the missing 25 shards for my jelly from the event. And while i appreciate the 3*rss at level 19 there's nothing i can do with them anyway until level 20+ shouldn't the cap for the event have been at least 20? Seems like 18 is a random number.
delicate merlin
☝🏻what this guy said, I’m not whole f2p And want to be able to earn the jelly
potent fractal
Anyone else not getting spock pack option?
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz I thought I'd be able to farm the jellyfish for free from a couple of the jelly events but apparently anyone over 18 won't have access to the jellyfish parts for event rewards?
Why can you farm all other content for free but not these rare event BP? Besides the obvious (it makes scopely lots of money being a rare and timed sales offer) does making the ship take months to unlock for free sound unreasonable?
What lvl are you @potent fractal
potent fractal
19
tawdry wagon
I think they messed up badly. Should have had all events active for everyone
fiery beacon
Your too high a lvl, you won't have it show up in shop unless your below 18 @potent fractal
potent fractal
Wtf sense does that make
tawdry wagon
After lol 17 you no longer use officers so wont need officer cards...... NOT!
potent fractal
I can see jelly event for second time, but not new spock offer... Odd
fiery beacon
They only just enabled ppl above 18 to see the sale because we complained about being cut off from the jelly event.
But they didn't add jelly parts as a reward for the Dom event @potent fractal
potent fractal
@fiery beacon 😢🤣😂🖖 not surprised at this point
pseudo glen
No Spock anything or any new missions for new ship..lvl 20
fiery beacon
What's really dumb is if they just had a pack that was 25 jelly parts for £5 I'd buy it. 😂
vagrant topaz
Hey
fiery beacon
Just to have the ship for my collection.
vagrant topaz
Can someone tell me where g3 crystal is
potent fractal
Enthra
vagrant topaz
Where’s that
fiery beacon
Limit the pack to only be available for ppl over lvl 18
vagrant topaz
Not true
potent fractal
Klingon will be place for Crystal needs
fiery beacon
@vagrant topazdo you not have access to the wiki or something?
vagrant topaz
I have access to the jelly pack
fiery beacon
😂
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz I know, so does everyone
vagrant topaz
So then what is this pack about 18+
restive smelt
@vagrant topaz we are talking about dominion event 17and under it gives jelly parts. 18+ gives 3* rss
vagrant topaz
What’s 3* rss
vagrant topaz
He
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz because they just made it available again to ppl above lvl 18
vagrant topaz
Why would you buy it at lvl18+? You get kehra at 20 a far superior ship and free...
delicate merlin
Ship collector
restive smelt
@vagrant topaz from 18 to 20 it's a few days if now weeks for f2p plauers.
cursive yacht
