Tricky, I did ops to 32 first, then did refinery 31/32 on same day
#💬-general-feedback
torn wadi
ok. if i give up on my dream of tiering kvort d3 bortas this year i might be able to get refinery done quick. im sitting on a good bit of everything except ore. gonna think about that another day.
carmine jay
Way I see it, progress is the refinery. Its why I get so mad about it and always prioritise it
torn wadi
true. i dont really need better ships right now
carmine jay
If an ops level or refinery level is achievable and you can still do dailies and events at that level, u should be doing it
Ops 33 will be my max for my ship i think
torn wadi
guess ill wait for a double station event and burn some uncommons/rares.
how much has your alliance raided?
torn wadi
nice. 9.2 B
carmine jay
Nice, u must be one of the big new servers.
torn wadi
I have 1.5 B personal and am #2
carmine jay
Our server is fairly friendly... ish
torn wadi
Ours is .... not lol
carmine jay
Nice. Im too nice, I had first kvort but didnt push raiding early on
We are trying to give the server a nice environment for everyone, mining rules etc
We still raid ofc, but its fairly mellow
torn wadi
Thats nice of you. Raiding was kind of the whole game for me until the galaxy started drying up
Our first whale on the server (who has given up on the game) did big raids early so everyone kind of eat or be eaten
I am nice outside of raiding, i dont hit anyones ships for any of the usual justifications (over protected, 0 node, etc..) i only hit people that hit me.
but rss is rss
Now i mostly do faction grinding except the rare occasion someone with rss doesnt bubble (more likely i guess they probably did bubble but it bugged, who knows?)
carmine jay
Yeah, that sounds fair.
Anyway, im going to go dream about a world where refining doesnt suck. I try not to come on this discord much anymore as it just makes me angry, so take it easy, 👍
nova sierra
@plush bay It tiers to T9 just component progression weakens becsuse they buffed the middle tiers. Itll always be weaker than rare or epics. Once you get that high your biggest boosts are in tiering
plush bay
@nova sierra thanks man. Yeah I get it. But I can’t tier vs cost. I’m at 8 loaded. Next level shows anywhere from 0-2%
Just curious if that was all by design. Sounds like it was but 700k or thereabouts is it
Actually like 650k power
nova sierra
It was designed that way to give players a boost in the middle tier but not change the tier 9 cap
swift hemlock
Repair times are still stupidly long. Shorten them. There is no reason to have long repair times as other highly successful games have found out already. Ex. Clash of Clan's released patches to shorten army building times.
undone hatch
Dear @near lodgely , because you are not refunding resources if the get lost because of a bug of the game. I will not buy any more stuff out of you store. As a costumer I would appreciate that if I spent money I would get a (nearly) bug free product. And if there is a bug, like the “5 or 10 minute shield doesn’t work ” and I am loosing resources (in that case money). Sorry but as a customer you leave me no other choice. Hopefully more people will change their in-store buying behavior.
Sincerely, a very disappointed ex-“money-spender”
nova sierra
Scopely: are you planning to fully frustrate your players by making them wait for 2.5h for a simple repair of a Kumari? Sorry guys, this kills every fun and is totally inacceptable!! Change it to Khan-Repair times and it is fine. Everything else is just targeted frustration of players!
wary jay
Well apparently scopely doesn't care about players! When you have bullies such as players that are 8 levels higher with ships that are 4 times stronger that my station with ships that hit, is VERY unbalanced, tried emailing g about it but get the BS response that "oh we know the battle system is currently unbalanced, and we will fix it soon. " Shame on you Scopely! Hope Google Play removes your game soon since you are losing money and posting Google off now.
grim grove
@tepid nimbus can you help I’m got a glitch where I hit a base and pop it but after my ship won’t take res. Iv spoken to the devs and they say they don’t know how long it will take to sort out and that I can always spend money and buy res! I heard you the person to get things done lol my gamer tag is simo4265.
nova sierra
@grim grove Hey there Simo! What you're referring to I believe is the 'ship cargo bug' or 'envoy bug' as it's more commonly known.
This requires of the attacker that they can fill their entire cargo for the attack to continue; so when you can no longer attack it with envoys, you can use fortunates and other lower cargo ships until they stop working as well.
This is not an issue that can be fixed manually on a per player basis - but will require a server side/global fix instead.
nova sierra
@delicate sentinel Hi Panic, I know it has been said before, and is probably one of the largest disparities in the game, but is anything going to be done about the uncommon g3 resources? Just in my case, I would need 478 uncommon g3 ore ro upgrade my Kumari, Vahklas and Ops. The kumari is for tier 4 to 5, Vahklas 5 to 6 and ops to level 26. I would have to purchase $600 in upgrade packs or wait 60 days on the refinery’s poor output. If mining and refining is the way to go, then on the daily requirements can those go from being just g3 gas to any g3 rss? We got more uncommon with the g2 materials, why such a stranglehold on g3? I honestly can’t figure out how other players advanced past lvl 25 without dropping a lot of cash. This is probably my biggest complaint since all advanced research and building requires more and more uncommon. I understand making a buck, but this is robbery.
carmine jay
@nova sierra sorry bud. They know and are artificially holding back the refinery for their own gains. Do not expect to see progress. Sorry, but just being realistic.
And yes, all players past level 25 have dropped a ton of cash on uncommons, another reason why we wont see significant progress. But the main reason is uncommons are making them a huge pile of money
lost sun
There are still spinning nodes after the maintenance.
gentle goblet
@nova sierra focus on one of those ships, plus the PvE event gives you 12 per day. and if UC ore is all you're after get the "100% ship hull" package, you get 150 for 50$...
neon parrot
with your latest update for the news bulletin, all base tags are gone system wide...why???
languid heart
@neon parrot you need to buy a special pack to see them again 😜
nova sierra
@carmine jay @gentle goblet thanks. I appreciate it. I have to try. They had a double refinery event and it helped but those don’t come back frequent enough. I would be happy with refinery options like refine into common or refine into uncommon, etc. that way you could be guaranteed an outcome rather than the random output generator.
raven fossil
This could be a great game if all the bugs were fixed. Also, why don’t you offer uncommon materials in the store for a decent price. If you buy large packages you still don’t get enough materials to expand your station to higher levels
slender comet
@delicate sentinel @tepid nimbus im sorry but the newest update is again a step backwards. sure there are some improvements but how can simple things, that worked nearly perfect before, getting so wrecked? the system view is totally damaged, have to zoom in extremely to see the lvls of the stations, sometimes a name moves with my camera, sometime the stationnames dont gets displayed, the performance in totaly is slower than before and so on. i dont to sound harsh, but does scopely test the updates before launch? im sure they do but how long and intesive do they test? i still like the game somehow but since month i am afraid of every update that gets released
sage shuttle
Allow players buy uncommon/rare materials for Latinum. from the store. People will still buy packs for the latinum so you will still make money selling packs. But it would be a huge help for players that just need that one or two rares to complete a ship upgrade or station upgrade
hasty plover
@sage shuttle @delicate sentinel That makes great sense, considering the description of latinum says that it is for rare items.
onyx vector
Scopely,
The repair time issue is a joke with you being the only ones laughing. I have blown through my stockpile of repair speed-ups (& then latinum) just to do my dailies & participate in the Battle for Glory event (which I have stopped participating in. Expenditure of resources outweighs the rewards). Many of us “paid” to have our repair times reduced yet we are receiving no gain. Why isn’t Scopely giving us a free chest of speed-ups every day to offset the poor programming? The answer is because you know that you are encouraging more spending by letting this issue ride.
While I understand & support a gaming company making money I stopped spending money on this game weeks ago. You have zero accountability and do not stand behind your product. If I had known that the 4 level disparity attack limit would disappear and higher level players players would be able to punch down 10 levels (with ships that have a power rating higher than that of my whole, cumulative power rating) I would never have spent any money. My twins, who have tons of App Store gift cards keep trying to download the game. I happily deny their request weekly.
jolly meteor
There really should be a way to get enemy faction credits without having to actually purchase them. If you choose a faction side, you are screwed to upgrade any of its officers that you get unless you purchase a pack.
open mountain
All events are biased towards higher leveled players. When are they going to be evened out? Plus, mining events suck. Can't get any mining done. Make events that don't have everyone and their sister sitting on nodes.
arctic wren
Ive said it before an I'll say it again make multiple events running at same time to spread the feild. Mining, hostile hunting, race to 20 or whatever other events. If multiple events r running u can pick which ones u want to participate in an not everyone on Server is trying for same events
dense canyon
@arctic wren That sounds like too much strategy and choice. Breaindead people might have trouble choosing what to do. Kinda goes against the 'single path to progress', 'no skill required', 'credit card to win' design 😄
tame sphinx
@delicate sentinel After watching my play for the week following the repair time increase and how it changed, I have observed that I have been hitting far weaker players much, much more often than before. I try to avoid damage because of the massive repair times and so I hunt those who have no chance to defeat me at all.
Was it the intent of the architects to set strong players against the weakest they can hit instead of fighting those nearer their own strength? Because that is what I am seeing happen.
raven fossil
I agree that mining events are horrible. You cannot mine for long without getting kicked off by a big player. Could be a great game if managed right.
acoustic zenith
@tame sphinx of course it is... they don't care about anyone who doesn't spend a fortune. If they get fed up and quit, no loss to Scopely.
tame sphinx
Were I in charge of game balance, I would strive to achieve the opposite effect. More people increases competition and enriches gameplay. I hate accidentally causing a player to quit.
spiral cradle
All the complaints have been listed so why waste time putting them down again . I’m to the point with the game where I am disappointed in myself for wasting so much time and energy in this dumpster fire
ocean furnace
So there's this bug that keeps happening. When I'm in hostile territory it shows my ship in one location, and then instantly it teleported across the system and in battle with a hostile fighter... then I have to wait 2 hours to try again. Or I spend cash and waste it to glitches.
nova sierra
@gentle goblet I wanted to mention it before I forgot again. You said in your post to get the research pack with the 100% Hull boost. I’m sure you knew, but those are only offered once. They are for prime research and there are 6 of them. You have to use them for the intended Research or you don’t get the materials until lvl 40. I have one left for prime efficiency, and it is specific to rate g4 crystal.
craggy egret
What we need is something like a peace shield for miners. Even 1 minute shield would be helpful. As it stands now it is just a long chain of folks getting repeatedly knocked off mines, many don't even get to mine 1 resource unit before getting smashed.
If you're going to have mining events, give us enough mines to work with so that when they inevitably break there are still some to use. As it stands right now there are entire systems with either NO working mines, or only ONE! G3 mining is literally just one big battle over the 5 or so working mines in the galaxy............strike that, just got word that it's now down to 4 working nodes in the entire galaxy. By the end of the day it will likely be zero and then everyone puts down the game for the weekend and half probably wont come back.
nova sierra
Need to get the word out to players to not use vemet,over pain of getting Kos for x days
We did that in 011
craggy egret
it's not vemet, any combat over a mine can cause the break, and with insane amounts of miner smashing over the same very small number of mines, they're getting broken at a much faster rate than usual
nova sierra
Yeah.. they're making mining toxic for everyone.. double the nodes etc..
But they won't
craggy egret
It's whale season at the mines! i'm giving tours, admission is 50uncommon g3 or 150 uncommon g2!
wanton crypt
many players including myself asked for fairplay and gameplay balancing against bullying by high levelled powerful players, buggy nodes to be fixed since day 1, cheaters to be banned by server authentication, ship size scaling to be more accurate when viewed at the drydock.
Scopely response:
rolled out an ugly invasive billboard in our bases when a small simple tab at the side of the hud would do.
craggy egret
It's a pay-to-win game, game balance is a thing of the past developers just don't understand it anymore because they want to make that quick chinese buck. These games die...fast. You either try to enjoy it the best you can, because it will always be broken...always, Or you pay to be an internet bully. Either way you end up largely unsatisfied with the experience and some executive somewhere gets rich.
west sluice
Good day. The latest changes in the game were terrible. You have removed the database level without maximizing convergence. The whole game will now be hung. But we look like a plasma. Turn back what was. On our server, all players are dissatisfied. Turn back.
mellow dragon
Ah yes, I can see many uses for that 2* Ore at level 25 😑
nova sierra
@hasty plover latinum is for ship repairs not rate items
hasty plover
@nova sierra
wicked jetty
you cant buy uncommon 2* or uncommon 3* or rare 3* with latinum
and for the love of god dont buy the latinum only pack
nova sierra
@Khan ask anyone who plays the game, they are using lat for repairs since the awesome repair time change.
hasty plover
@wicked jetty I'm not stupid. Won't buy that pack.
@nova sierra I play the game, I'm a level 31 and leader of a top alliance. I know what I can use it for and what I cant. And what I can't use it for is rare items as it says RIGHT THERE IN THE DESCRIPTION>
nova sierra
Well obviously you are missing my point, @hasty plover
hasty plover
@nova sierra I'm not stupid. I know what it is marketed for and what people are forced to use it for. You seem not to grasp why people want to be able to use it for rare rss when it is clearly marketed for such
nova sierra
@hasty plover alright big fella dont have a tantrum
gentle goblet
@nova sierra actually I already bought the 100% ship hull package couple of months ago and I still see it, so it doesn't seem like you can only get them once.
@mellow dragon lol, btw any chance you can post a screenshot of the normal G3 refining options you get? I'm wondering if it's worth while speeding it up for the bonus refinery
mellow dragon
@gentle goblet not sure what you mean. But I’ve already refined this morning so it’s on a cool down. Can still only do 1750 & 12K. If that’s what you mean?
gentle goblet
no, I mean what does it say it will give you... so at lvl24 refinery I think you get either 3/4/10 UC and 1/2/4 rare
and that's supposed to increase with refinery level, but don't know if every level
so basically a screenshot before you click the 1750/12K 😉
mellow dragon
Alright I’ll do it later and tag you. 8h 30m wait though haha
gentle goblet
lol well there's still 2 days until bonus refinery, currently upgrading the shipyard... many thanks in advance @mellow dragon 😃
fickle raven
Dear developers, please tell me, what genius came up with your quests? I want to glorify his name for centuries! 🤣
tame sphinx
Paying exorbitant amounts for something doesn't seem very Romulan to me. A Romulan would rather pay that much to assassinate the fool brazen enough to demand that bribe. It would be better spent.
fickle raven
I'm just talking about the amount of dilithium. This amount can be collected forever. Thank You, developers!!! 🤑
tame sphinx
There's a 20M dilithium quest later. Lol
carmine jay
The 1.5 Billion partseel quest is my personal favourite.
nova sierra
The Reddit AMA has an answered question pertaining to missions that offer low rewards at high costs. They have recently assigned a developer to specifically evaluate every mission and adjust the scale accordingly.
fickle raven
finally 👍
cinder garden
Yep i'd like the option to change my mind on quests too, or at least to see what the cost is for each option as well as the rewards. Beneath the ice quest the rewards have hidden themselves again, but at some point i chose to bribe the guards to smuggle garan past them, and i'm now never ever going to complete it as it's going to cost me 4m dil.
merry oriole
What is wrong with ship/base labels since patch?
craggy void
@merry oriole You to huh?
merry oriole
Yup, hard to find silly empty miner killers' bases :)
craggy egret
Why has the warp charge timer increased? It used to be 4 seconds which was way to long to begin with when trying to flee an incoming attack, now it's another 4 seconds on top of that original 4 seconds! It's getting a lot of miners and resources hunters killed.
civic slate
@craggy egret I don’t think it actually changed. I believe that is a graphical alteration, but the warp charge timer is still four seconds. I know earlier today I was able to escape an attack by hitting the button and even though the graphics did not show me warping away yet as soon as my timer was over I was safe
craggy egret
It's not a graphical issue, it's actually 8 seconds now, my alliance has been testing it all day, literally everyone has been having the same issue and investigating it.
I've actually been raiding overloaded miners and noticing the glitch sever wide. Miners that normally would have gotten away from me have been frozen in place long enough for me to hit them.
civic slate
@craggy egret confirmed. I just tested it in open space and you are correct. What is weird is that if you are on a node, as soon as you hit the recall but you cannot be touched. You don’t even have to wait the original four seconds. You can wait till someone is right on top of you and hit the button and you’re gone. Interesting little glitch there. Report it in #👾-bug-reporting
craggy egret
I did
I don't know, I've been hitting miners and i see the warp graphic go off, but i can still hit them up to 4 seconds later.
they send me angry messages about attacking at warp.
tiny cloud
It would be useful if you could have a ‘just for you’ pack that includes epic Kirk shards, at least 500 uncommon 3*, at least 20 rare 3*, 5 mill dilithium and some parsteel and tritanium please ..
kind kestrel
I would actually be prepared to throw $30 their way at the moment but not for this. I need 10m trit not one upgrade worth of parsteel and 2 star material
gentle goblet
@tiny cloud well then it will probably cost like a 1000$ 😄
tiny cloud
It still wouldn’t last that long. But it would keep a lot of people on board
bold sentinel
@civic slate needs formally logging
empty shell
@tepid nimbus @delicate sentinel Please but PLEASE revamp 10 min and 4 h chest rewards ... 200 , 500 or 1000 parsteel at higher level is nothing .. ruins game experience. If possible make it level dependant .. so we get at least 20 k 50 k 100 k of it .. or something else .. also latinum 5 latinum .. more i get dropped from one hostile run... put 30 60 100 latinum in there...
Also maybe some character shards ,,, at low drop rates ... some faction tokens or ultra tokens
civic slate
@bold sentinel what?
civic slate
Lol please report it in #👾-bug-reporting and tag panic andbmyseld.
bold sentinel
😁
vague wagon
This games going to shit all this time to wait for ships to repair and so little recieved n speed ups for everyone...
I luv this game but geeze some help with players ship's repairs would be very helpful😠
hallow pumice
@vague wagon you can always buy them 😁
vague wagon
😂😂😂 not worth it...
marsh nebula
<@&509690795536941056> I see the help button is now constantly on. Can you pretty please disable it if there is nobody to help out? It creates extra, unneeded screenclutter. At least let us choose if we want it active all the time or not.
hallow pumice
Well I get people to help out with my stuff
craggy egret
@marsh nebula help button is not on all the time, but it does get stuck fairly often, try restarting the game.
craggy egret
@marble bramble please don't post the same question in every channel.
acoustic zenith
Ok. Is anyone else getting naffed off with lvl 14 and below ships sitting on 3* nodes. I know it's probably 2nd accounts but it should be restricted as lvl 14 has no need for 3* for many levels.
2* maybe but NOT 3* Just so those rich big players can monopolise them.
civic slate
This blows my mind. You guys do all realize that there’s an ALLIANCE event. That awards 10points for g3. And 2 points for g2? Yes. I’m one of those admirals that tells the 14-19 that I have to park your butts on g3 for this event. When you DO turn 20 you’re gonna have boatloads if a head start . But no one is gonna tell me I can’t play the event BY ITS DESIGN cause you’re annoyed. If the ally gets points, my members contribute to the ally. It blows my mind how many people I have to explain this to. Just cause they’re a 17 they’re not supposed to help their alliance win? Lmao please.
civic turret
contacted support about all the post update issues I am having... request ignored. typical.
stone agate
First let me start by saying how much I really enjoy playing this game! Star Trek is what made me become a fan of sci-fi, I've been watching Star Trek since 84 when they were doing reruns of the original series and even then I was captivated. when I heard this game was coming out I put in a request to be notified as soon as it was released because this was supposed to be the next greatest gaming genre in the franchise, and in my opinion did not fail to deliver I even talked the game up so much that I got my girl who knows nothing of sci-fi to start playing( she's hey level 17 Fleet commodore) in the hopes that we would be on the same server unfortunately that wasn't the case and we moved on and dealt with it. but now I'm hearing word of servers being merged and some of them being shut down that kind of worries me I'm finding a lot of dead fleets on the server that I'm on fleets that the Admirals are still Level 10's or 14's. fleets that people don't even communicate in, this worries me not just as a game player but also as a brand new Fleet Admiral. I've also heard talks that nobody new is being accepted to the server that I play on this also worries. I'm a blue-collar man just like people who program this game, and the people that play this game. I don't make much, but what I can afford I put into this game. I even sold my console because I play more of this game, I would really hate to lose the opportunity play this game before I have realized my goal. Having a top-tier fleet and a hanger full of Starfleet vessels. Well that's my rant and thanks again for allowing all of us in the universe the opportunity to relive some of our childhood. May the Stars be your guide and the wind fill your sails live long and prosper!
carmine jay
You sold your console for 80 uncommon Jim? Man, this makes me feel so sad. Legit.
cosmic pagoda
I just got hit by an ops 32 horizon, I'm at ops 24. Thank God the auto bubble worked, for once. Even with two ships home I was a one hit kill and lost 500k trit, 40k dil. That's only about a weeks worth of resources, including mining. The level limits needs to be adjusted, ASAP, this is an impossible state to grow.
carmine jay
You HAVE to be under a shield to protect your resources, that is the only way. My ally mate can take 1.6M per hit,
If you are choosing to pvp yourself and have no shield, then thats your choice.
PVE and stay under shield or lose your resources.
Btw, Ops 32 can hit down to ops 22
storm hornet
@cosmic pagoda I can take 1.6M per hit. I consider it mean as hell so I don't do it unless we're at war or against someone who commonly aggresses my alliance though, but that's just me. Shield. Shield, shield, shield.
wary jay
@cosmic pagoda I agree I just got hit by someone that was 7 levels higher than me. I understand that sheilds protect but having someone that I cant hit back because of a flipping level gap is stupid!
carmine jay
That it may be, but they chose to increase it, so until they decrease it, gotta shield.
torn wadi
I can only take 1.3M per hit 😦 Have shards for Stonn though so maybe that will get me 1.6M
And when i thought there were people outside my alliance that could potentially one-shot me i would bubble to take a piss, as everyone has said, a bubble is your only protection.
Only thing that sucks is the bubbles are buggy like everything else in th egame
rough dagger
Thank you for making the repair times so long as to be utterly unfun. It's making it easy to contemplate walking away
ebon thistle
@civic slate if you want to sit lv 14s on 3* mines then scopley should make it where we can attack them to get them off , its not fair at all that they cant get touched by us and get a free pass from everyone above 16 so they can sit there none stop without having to worry at all about being hit ...you want it fair game for events then they need to make it fair for everyone else to and make it where level doesnt matter on mines, i have no problems with 14's mining 3* if i can remove them if i need it
heavy star
Certain ships only and at a certain power level so it at least gives the 14s a chance to defend themselves.
ebon thistle
nope they want to mine 3* they should suffer the consequences , the free pass needs to be removed , its not like i can go make an alt and hope it ends up on the same server just so i can knock them off it , its silly cause now the big alliances are hiring 14's just to sit on mines during minning events cause the only 14's are new playerss that just joined the server when they reopened it , so everyone else is way past the lv bracket and cant touch them .
its a cheap tactic , its works but its stupid
heavy star
Sometimes the 14s are only working their dailies. On my server they often work together. Trading out one 14 for another so they don’t take up too many nodes no matter what alliance they are in. Maybe there should be a couple of systems where the 20s and up mine in chaos while the 14-19’s have their own 3* new systems where only they can access.
civic slate
@ebon thistle 17’s and below can hit a 14. So they are completely able to be knocked off. That’s why alliances need to be balanced. And not all full of level 30+ spenders. We keep 3-4 members at 17 or below. People think it’s crazy cause we’re a highly ranked alliance. But my 15’s and 14’s are my huckleberry. And they can be attacked. But most alliances have ignored the younger players. This is their price.
scenic crest
How about fixing these damn spinning nodes?
formal oasis
Has anyone noticed ever since the repair times got ‘fixed’ that the drops quality and drop rates from dots has plummeted?
ebon thistle
@civic slate sure if your server still has people that are 17 works out great , however since my server just reopened to new people , we have none , other than the new people which have pretty much banded together in their own little alliances because for now they cant get touched , once they level up then they will find out how rough it can be cause we remember and pay backs can be bad. but it doesnt change the fact that its a bad system in place that allows lv 14s to sit on 3* mines for an whole event unable to be knocked off because none of us can attack them. Its a brillant tactic for an alliance to use send out a bunch of 14's take every node they can , but its also a crap tactic for just that reason its exploiting the pvp brackets to farm higher content. if you want it fair open up all attacks on mines no matter the level then see how well those 14's do
im also a advocate for system wide level equalizing , to where no matter what your level every ship in that system is equalized for fair pvp , if you enter a 24 system , all ships are equalized to lv 24 power levels , same in 32;s ect ect but would only effect pvp that way they dont even have to fix the pvp brackets
civic slate
Lmao listen to yourself? You’re practically making the argument as to why they SHOULDN’T be hit. Lol that’s WHY there’s a cap on PvP. Otherwise a young player could never possibly develop. They’ve changed the faction dailies. I have a 14 in my alliance that gets faction dailies. To mine. G3. Not you or anyone else is gonna tell me he doesn’t deserve to complete his dailies just like the rest of us. The fact that he CAN contribute to his alliance in and of itself evens the playing field. You’re talking about “fair?” Them taking the nodes is the only way they CAN compete in a mining event. They don’t have horizons. Or faction miners. All they have are fortunates. So not being able to be hit is the leveling compensation for all of our bigger ships and superior firepower.
ebon thistle
no i made the argument that they should be hit cause they are sitting on higher content nodes ....
civic slate
Eek. So as a 28 when I go to 29. All my ships should be the same power as all the other 29’s?
ebon thistle
but hey what ever
no you would still have all the perks from your crews and stuff but a level say 32 dropping down into a lv 20 system to terrorize 20's would have their ships equalized for that system level , they would still have the perks from their crews ect
which would give them the advantage , but you wouldnt have a level 32 going in a system clearing an entire level 20ish system
which is exactly what is happening hell on my server you have lv 35's clearing whole sell , across the entire area killing everyone with out having to repair , thats not PVP
as a 24 i have no chance against the lv36's that can and do attack me daily
civic slate
Motivation to keep growing and build up? Lol I can’t take the 39 that rolls around my system. But I keep working so I can at least try to fend them off haha
Not trying to be a smart Alec. I do get your situation. But I think a simple PvP level cap fixes all that. Much simpler. 5+- simple.
ebon thistle
its why my server was reopended to new people cause so many quit from being crushed everyday which empty bases in every system
no its motivation to quit , cause Growing requires thousands of dollars
and the refine rates and economy sucks
5+ is still to high of a gap , a 24 average ship is about 200K , a 29 has faction ships and can be around 500 to 600K
but hey they need the high gaps or the whales have no one to attack
but even that can be fixed by speeding up RSS gains and making the leveling faster and not forever just to get one item for your ships
refinary is the major bottle neck before the bonus opened up today i hadnt got a single uncommon in a week and the last time i got one i only got 3 when i still need 270 just to get to the next tier
but you can buy ....yes i can buy a pack that comes with 80 of the 270 for 100$ so in order for me to get enough i would have to make a car payment just to get 1 tier which puts me no where near close to be able to defend myself against the 36's by the way
timber sable
@civic slateif I see a 14 holding a 3* node outside of lvl 20 space, I just send 17s at him and then hold the node. We have a 14 on our server who refuses to level up because he doesnt want to get raided and pvp and would hold a node for days in a heavily populated system with only 3 nodes. Been 14 for months. No reason to play farmville and keep resources from people who actually needed
hasty plover
@delicate sentinel Can you guys please throw away this garbage android client update from last week and put the old one back out there? It's slow, buggy, tags don't show up, sometimes it's an acid trip watching all the bases floating around on my screen when zooming in and out. When I zoom in, my team colors disappear with tags and everyone looks like enemies. Enemies and Reds glitch locations, hard as hell to attack anything in motion anymore. I'm playing on an 8 core 6GB samsung phone with nothing else running. Wow. Fix this.
@ebon thistle Scopely's greed is working as-intended.
gentle goblet
@timber sable there will always be selfish people who cares about nothing but themselves, it doesn't mean that the rest shouldn't be allowed to mine in peace, if your server has EMK/ROE rules, they should apply just the same to a lvl14 as they apply to lvl20 or 25
cosmic knoll
@ebon thistle if a 8-14 sits on a g3, they have brains, which beats wallet almost every time. also using a more powerful ship to beat on a less powerful ship is CHEAP ... just because you do it, makes it NOT cheap? spend and spend ... keep spending, your wallet will never allow you to beat that lvl 8 who has brains.
@timber sable thats how mining works ... a little guy gets a node, is replaced by a more powerful guy, who in turn gets replaced by another more powerful guy, until it reaches the top of the food chain.
but there exists people too stupid to understand thats how it works.
the thing about mining is that theres no rules. therefore smart people are collecting the most heavily contested rss before the wallet warriors can smack them ... all i see here is people crying and wiping away the tears with dollar bills ... unfortunately dollar bills dont help beat off a lvl8 from a g3 ... the important star trek lesson here: money is meaningless. you got taught something you should already know as a trek fan
full python
Hmmm..sounds like Captain Obvious has had his hat handed to him a lot by players on his server. If you want to have a "fair" game you might have to go somewhere else because STFC is clearly a pay to play game. Just because someone has the ability to pay for better ships or crews they are not allowed to use them? Or they have to play to your rules because you are so smart that you don't pay into the game? I bet you are one of those guys who sends nasty messages to stronger players that kick you off mines. Which in turn causes them to hunt and kill you more often..lol. Also, in case you are wondering..I pay for packages now and again and love taking mines from weaker players. Why?...because I can..muwahhhhh!
cosmic knoll
👏 thankyou for supporting me @full python i have paid for a jelly, its mining g3 ... i have paid, i am playing because i can use my jelly to mine. im not a nasty player who sends nasty messages, but i have recieved a LOT for being lvl 14 and mining g3 in a jelly. i wont troll and say : why? because i can. i use the g3 for faction dailies.
full python
Wow..I wish you were on my server. Completely different atmosphere. We barely allow envoys on lvl 3 nodes..if we saw a jelly mining we would probably think it was sime sort of glitch. Good for you..but god help you if servers ever merge.
cosmic knoll
not really mate, server merging wont jeapodise my g3 extraction in the slightest. all the players will be too high to hit me. and theres quite a few of us 'low' miners collecting g3
full python
Maybe
wheat oak
@cosmic knoll Perfectly agree that lower levels should be able to mine G3 like anyone else for their faction dailies. But c'mon, in a Jelly (or talla or whatever can get to a G3 node)?
PS Same goes for highers, sitting on nodes with B'Rels
cosmic knoll
the issue is the wallet warriors on my server, they have decided there is NO rules.. if there was an agreement to not hit miners unless zero node or over stock, then the number of players following my lead (mining at low lvl) would be less to non existant .. because there wouldnt be a need to do it
therefore my server deserves to be camped by lvl 8+ on g3
to teach wallet warriors that not everything can be solved with cash (on my server, the rich bully the rest, reserving as many nodes for their own, hence no mining agreements which would stop them 'owning' the server like they do)
full python
We do not allow any mining with PVP ships and have a rule that allowa Northstars to mine over their cargo limit. The issue our server has is that the people whonhave the ability to spend seem to be out numbering the people who do not. So why would we accomodate such a small percentage if players on such an important part of the game. It just doesn't make sense for us..at least to the level you guys are suggesting. It seems that everyone demonizes the paying players rather than thanking them for keeping this game afloat.
If our server abided by Captains rules we would need to rename the game Star Trek Farmville Command
wheat oak
@cosmic knoll Sounds like you inherited a nasty bunch of players. We have ROE and a discord server for handling disputes over miner attacks which don't follow the ROE
cosmic knoll
@full python not demonising, i paid too. just my server seems to be the nastiest one out here ... where the pay players are so nasty, they wont do any mining agreement at all, so the consequence of their greed is 'us' low level miners
full python
My bad..I tend to get off topic sometimes
Are there a lot of powerful alliances on your server..and a council of some sort on discord where all of the teams interact and vote on issues?
Just so you know what I am dealing with in my server..I am level 33 with 3.5mil in power and I get my ass handed to me daily.
We have a lot closing in on lvl 40 and it seems that everyone has an enterprise..but me😥
carmine jay
All I can I say is, thank God im not on your server!
wheat oak
Yeah, our top 20 is:
1 x 35
2 x 34
6 x 32
2 x 31
4 x 30
5 x 29
full python
Steve..is that from your power leaderboard?
wheat oak
Yup. From 6 alliances, the majority being from 2 - ours and the ex-top ally
timber sable
@gentle goblet anyone is free to mine anywhere they want, no matter their level, as long as I dont want the node.. then they have to go
gentle goblet
lol and what makes you special?
hallow pumice
Absolutely nothing!!
carmine jay
Feedback - Your absolutely trash refinery rates will be the end of this game.
misty bluff
Nice job on the refine bonus did triple batches each time not a single rare drop. Keep tweaking your refine rates morons. Or just admit they are deliberately low to force people to buy packs. At least nut up and admit your intentions
keen bobcat
@misty bluff I had a some on one this morning and my very last one this afternoon so 2 out of 3 was good. Did single batches of Crystal and ore and had some on both and triple on gas and had some there as well
misty bluff
Ill i got each time was the minimum you could get. Triple refines each time like i said and was getting around 20 unc each time
hasty plover
You guys bitch and complain about wallet warriors, but any time you need protection you run to them. When you try to level up to protect your friends and your alliance from bigger players, scopely throws a number of obstacles at you to keep you from getting there in a free method. So stop bitching about the wallet warriors and start bitching about the 100% rigged (not broken) economy and the outrageous price of packs that are individually useless.
While your at it start bitching about transparency in upgrade paths for stations and ships. see how screwed you are before you even go down a path of picking a ship to upgrade.
ebon thistle
@hasty plover i have no problems with Wallet warriors , they fund the game , what i have problems with is Wallet warriors using their power to system sweep and kill everyone every hour on the hour for no Gain , with no one that can protect you and even our higher players cant protect. They leave alliances right before major minning events so they dont have to play under ROE , they crush everyone except the one alliance they left. Then you have the top 2 players on the server who arent part of any alliance except their own , their own stated goal is to burn the server down and make people quit. So yes ill complain about those wallet warriors because their entire goal is to burn it all and make people quit. But its not just their fault its Scopleys fault for allowing such a large PVP bracket that a 36 can crush allt he 24's when the 24's have no chance what so ever in defending themselfs. But but if they tighten the brackets then the wallet warriors will have no one to fight ....if one shooting 24's to 30's is fighting in the first place.....no this too is scopleys fault ..the leveling is so ridiculously slow due to a piss poor economy system and a even worse Refinary that it takes FOREEEEEEEVER to level unless of course you open your wallet , which is why the level 34/ 35/36 of my server have stopped leveling and just increasing their ships , cause if they level they have no one to attack, there is a big hole between 25 and 30 where their is hardly anyone cause everyone is either f2p 24 and below or wallet 30 and above. once that level 36 levels to 37 they are in that no man zone with very few targets to hit.
fathom copper
Made this pretty simple suggestion on reddit, it should be easy to develop into the game. An benefit both f2p and dolphins/whales https://www.reddit.com/r/STFC_Official/comments/brexu6/faction_of_traders/
ebon thistle
they could really speed up leveling , improve the economy and fix the refinery so that people even the F2P can actually level at a decent pace , narrowing the pvp bracket wouldn't be as bad and the over all system would be more fair. But then you would end up with the same problem another game i play is having where now the whales are complaining they dont have a big enough edge and cant crush everyone . in my other game the Dolphins can defend themselfs and even win against whales if they actually know how to play.
hasty plover
@ebon thistle That's not even wallet warriors. That's just assholes majorly griefing and Scopely letting it happen. If they dropped the price of packs, everyone can have an opportunity to protect themselves and If Scopely would trim up the PVP ladders that would help greatly. I'm a 31 and lead the best alliance on my server and even I think the pvp ranges are too deep, but scopely will keep it that way because the heavy pay players will get bored if they cannot attack lower levels or defend their team mates against lower levels. The basic economy has to be addressed. The refinery has to be addressed and scopely needs to drop the price of the packs. That's all there is to it.
ebon thistle
@hasty plover then we agree you just said the same thing i did 😃
rough dagger
This just in. The long repair times are still making the gameplay impossible. Watching repair times count down isn't gameplay
ebon thistle
@hasty plover im in full agreement with you the economy and refinary need fixs and the packs need a major reduction in prices to get people like me ...the dolphin to spend , if the prices werent so rediculusly high i would actually spend money , but 70% of my packs are 100$ the rest are 49$ with nothing but junk in them and 1x 20$ ...doesnt help that the 100$ packs dont even give you enough RSS to even tier 1 level , so in order for me to tier my current ship 1 level i would have to make a car payment to barely go up in power. its wwwwwwwwwwwwwayyyy over priced and in reverse of what it should be , majority of the packs should fall within the 20 to 49$ range , with a lot at the 20$ price 1 or 2 major packs in the 100$ range , hell the game is so rigged major researches like Prime repair is locked in a 100$ pack which is garbage considering the major long repair times that literally have people playing for 10 mins then not playing for the rest of the day.
rough dagger
The 100$ packs don't even let you upgrade more than one COMPONENT let alone a tier
ebon thistle
thats what i said
which is why i said it would take a car payment
the 100$ packs dont even give enough 3* to level one item , the 100$ packs i have give 80 3* uncommons , you need 90 for my tier level to upgrade one weapon let alone the 3 , currently to tier my ship i need 270 Uncommons thats 4x 100$ packs or a car payment
which is why i stopped spending cause if a tier5 ship cost 400 then i dont want to know what a tier 6, 7, 8 cost
torn wadi
Stuff is crazy expensive. Heres what i dont get. My server (think the same as captain obvious) has 1 major alliance, no council, no anything like that. I think the 4 or 5 second tier alliances all have NAPs and such but are irrelevant. Many people think there "Should" be the miner rules about 0 node, over protected, etc... so they go sniping the whales miners with their biggest warships, that can just barely kill the miner, let alone any other whale ship. So i think they enjoy being "swept" as people have posted about here
And to the point about tier 6 7 8 ships if you wanted to immediately buy a tier 6 probably couple thousand dollars. I stopped spending before getting there and now play for free
Its not worth that - when enough people decide same and revenue drops, scopely will have to adjust prices
misty bluff
Just wait until you need about a hundred rares to complete one component or a building
misty bluff
Im not but i know a couple i stopped at ops 28
torn wadi
i stopped spending at ops 28 - took about 3 months to get there - took about 4 months to get from 28 to 32 where i am now without spending
misty bluff
I stoped spending at ops 22 or so wasted 2k on this nonsense. But its also the reason im still playing because of the money i wasted on this mess of a game
torn wadi
ha ha, same same, but i wasted more and stopped later.
misty bluff
I would have kept goi g most likely my server was dead by jan. We were down to under 400 active players. Ursed s opely for months because its been closed forever. At least they just opened it up again a couple days ago
torn wadi
What is really going to suck is when them breaking repair times catches up to me. I had maintained on LAT and Speedups for months being a free player. this last breakage of the repairs means im bleeding them. this game is not playable having to wait for repairs
misty bluff
Now our gc is bombarded by people asking where to find lvl 3 npcs lol
torn wadi
What server you on. Mine just reopened but my guess was we were close to 1000 active players before that
misty bluff
Not sure pre release one. Canada brazil and mexico i think. Im rockzo on it lead alliance PVP now called REAL
torn wadi
ok, not mine. PAX is lead alliance, thats what im in. it opened in noverberish last year
misty bluff
Im the boogeyman everyone hates lol
Same i joined about 2 weeks before it closed in november last year
ebon thistle
my server opened up last week for new players to join but i think its closed again
torn wadi
i was the boogeyman at one time. then i got bored of that play style. now i grind faction.
misty bluff
Possibly i heard each server can support 3k players
torn wadi
but when the morons kill my miners because of some crazt miner rules that dont exist i go off
misty bluff
I dont play by those rules. The only exception is we wont hit empty miners. Everything else fair game.
No nap no allies everyone is a target
torn wadi
thats how we are, but no Empty miner rule either. Personally i do my own mining and leave people alone except revenge. They ask for enough revenge that im still in top ten power destroyed without doing anything but revenge killing. i dont understand it
misty bluff
My server its funny. I'll clean a base loot millions in rss nobody cares, but kill their miner watch out they're cursing you and every family member you have and wanting to kill everyone of them. Always makes me laugh
gentle goblet
Lol if you loot millions from them it's their fault for not protecting it 😂
torn wadi
exactly Doc Roc, that cracks me up too
im #2 looter (1.5 Billion) and get no hate for that
well, not much. lol
but kill some tiny disposable ships and watch the tears flow
misty bluff
Yeah we ran out of rss on my server. The core 9 founders of our alliance hold about half of the servers remaining loot. Cant spend it though because we need unc mats, big shock there. We're #1 in raids and 4 of us are top 5 raiders.
It does crack me up when people complain about getting raided. Let me think: mine trit, par and dil for the next 2 yrs or raid what i need in about 2 hrs. I tell them to blame scopely for the broken economy.
torn wadi
Yeah, when they adjust the mining rate to about 20 million a minute like you can do with a t4 faction miner, then well talk about not raiding
I think most rss on our server went back to scopely. lol. my leaderboard number is 1.5 billion, which means ive actuall raided 3 billion. i just built out everything level 32 and did all the research (was at 1.2 billion on hand before that) have spent down to 260 million, mostly tri and dil.
im sure a bunch in tokens too, but ive always eventually spent what ive raided.
spark vale
@misty bluff does your server care about RoE? on mine, hitting a miner on a mine that is not opc and not 0 is not cool. ppl get kicked out of alliances if they misbehave habitually on these simple rules. I can go to bed knowing my miner will go opc and then someone will get the overcap payment for keeping mines available for all.
misty bluff
Most do. My alliance doesnt willingly hit miners for fun just retaliation hits or if all nodes are full we will kill someone for a node
@spark vale⬆️
We dont follow the server majority. We have our rules that we follow if people dont like it they are more than willing to try and stop us
torn wadi
Same. lol. the attempts to stop have never met with much success
woven ledge
Why is this still happening for 3* mines?
timber sable
Welp.. no point in this @delicate sentinel
wheat oak
just means that the upgrade adds less than 1.82k to the total attack @timber sable. what does it show if you hit the "i" button on the weapon pop--up?
timber sable
Oh I'm aware, the thing is that the one below it added 4% for the exact same cost.
wheat oak
exact same weapon type and damage?
timber sable
Yessir
All 3 are the same but the top 2 provide far less damage increase, but the same cost
timber sable
unique glen
@timber sable i can't comment on any of that, except to say I wish I could raid your base 😂
timber sable
Lol, you're not the only one. But most on my server dont even try anymore. I have a reputation of baiting people out of millions of RSS just to instant repair. Watching then drain themselves is hilarious
unique glen
Oh man, that's kills me, figuratively but literally for my ship, when that happens 😂
hallow pumice
The Mk5, can't wait for the mk19 to be added
fiery sluice
Centurions 3rd weapon is different than the first two even though named the same. It only does about 60% of the damage of the first two and fires twice every 3 rounds
It having a bigger damage boost makes sense. How small a boost on the first two is what's dumb
wicked jetty
@timber sable all 3 are not the same, the bottom one is the cents big gun
timber sable
I understand the top 2 offer less damage, my issue is the same cost for all 3.
worn turtle
<@&509690795536941056> I appreciate the step in the right direction that Customer Service is going, but I will say an email detailing the reason as well as a more definitive time the ban ends would be appreciated. Least I'm not V1olat1on1 this time without warning or response.
Also which is it am I banned or am I suspended for 24 hours?
nova sierra
@worn turtle. What did you put your name as?
worn turtle
Actually I believe I found the time I'm banned till in the bottom right corner 05/23/2019 01:11:06. Is that GMT or my local time? Disregard that's the time my client was loaded in GMT... Derp
hot sandal
The new higher limits on dailies suck. Especially for little guys trying to mine. And customer service does as well lol
storm hornet
@hot sandal if you find you are having trouble doing your dailies, go kill your own faction for a while to drop your rep tier back down. Once you drop the rep tier your dailies will be more manageable again.
hot sandal
Um no
wheat oak
and.... ?
nova sierra
The uncommons u give and what i need is laughable! 500 uncommons for tier4 on kumari? And i get 6 per day at refinery???? What is wrong with u!!!??? Do u want levls 25 to quit?
ashen magnet
@nova sierra They do. A lot of level 25 from my alliance quit, because the paywall is too high, not worth it. Also, the amount of TIME we are expected to spend ingame is ridiculous. Most people do have a real life.
nova sierra
I dont get what they want...the ones paying will just play alone?
worthy isle
sharp ruin
I mainly just want ranking for events extended so more get rewards
I dont do 90% of events cause its only top 10 or most 3 star nodes taken and viciously guarded
When the events super easy mining
cinder garden
Apologies for the caps but YES I FECKIN KNOW MY CARGO BAY IS FULL.
I'm sure as hell not recalling every 10 mob kills when i've got another 390 to go..
civic slate
@cinder garden 😂 you're so right; i can't even see my clan chat caseut that thing is going off CONSTANTLY
dawn nexus
@cinder garden One of your ships had reached max cargo!
gentle goblet
It gets out of hand very quickly since those elites gives thousands of steel ;/
austere olive
$200 for a faction ship. your greed is insane
neon ledge
If you don't fix the repair times I've reversing every purchase I've made in this game.
dispute with paypal, dispute with AMEX as required.
somber viper
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> @tepid nimbus @nova sierra , I know you are all busy with the event but please look in to reducing the points to 200/210 for the Daily Rewards, this is actually hammering your high level players. If you are waiting on Uncommon RSS and have Researched/Upgraded all requirements for your current level, it is impossible to hit the 240 points. These are loyalty points as it suggests, players should not be penalised for not being able to complete all their daily goals due research times/lack of speed ups or waiting for Resoures from their refinery's. The fact your players log in every day is loyalty, it should not be loyalty for using the store everyday. Many of your players through through no fault of their own can not hit the 240 target now . Do the right thing here! thanks
gentle goblet
@somber viper it's possible (only?) when you are dual-factioned
somber viper
@gentle goblet I am only single factioned unfortunately. I myself and many others are not 😄 Im Klingon all the way
woeful gate
@somber viper this is why I put off my fed rep for an entire month to fix klingon rep and had to thousands of hostiles to fix it. It is worth it if you're not so deep down the hole that it would take an eternity to fix. I was - 80k, I could have done it quicker but got bored a lot doing so.
somber viper
@woeful gate I’m -900k ROM and -700k FED, this is going to be painful 😖
woeful gate
Oh dear, no idea how bad it will be for you then haha.
People kept telling me to do it even when I was only - 15k or so, but I ignored them till I realised wait I kinda have to do this I'm gonna fuck myself long term if I don't.
gentle goblet
ouch, I realized it pretty early, I think it was like -10 or -15K
heavy star
I just finished fixing my factions. I wasn't too bad off but still took a good month of nothing but killing klingons. I did it while we had the Khan repair "event"
rough dagger
Repair rates still suck. Times are 4× longer than they need to be
lunar crown
What is up with the notifications when actively playing?!? I was actively playing and apparently got attacked 3 times and had rss stolen without knowing anything until the 3rd attack.
storm hornet
@lunar crown even the in game notifications are horribly plagued by bugs
The only way to reliably know if you're being attacked is to always have a ship in station
Then you will see that your ship is dead
and you'll know your station is under attack
mossy steeple
One of the first rules of this game is to respect other players. Why are players not being banned for insults like these? Is it something you can start doing?
nova sierra
@mossy steeple Wow. The lengths people go to out their rage. Please report to in-game CS - they should be able to act.
mossy steeple
You mean that report tab? I tried that, but don't think it works. Hence why I posted here.
nova sierra
You can file a ticket through Settings -> FAQ, instructions are there.
mossy steeple
Oh perfect. Will give that a go. Cheers
wicked jetty
It absolutely works @mossy steeple many on my server have gotten temp bans for stuff like that
mossy steeple
Good to hear. Just to be clear I am not insulting players to get these messages. I just don't follow the server ROE set by other players and the get cancer comment was from a base raid.
nova sierra
That said, I'm fully aware of [DEVS] active participation in breaking nodes on the server and griefing. It doesn't excuse any such behavior like this - but it might help if you considered other people's experiences too. Who knows, may even gain some friends? 😄
mossy steeple
I am always polite back, maybe blow a kiss, send flowers and maybe a girls name here and there
Most empties I kill are out of lazyness and not just me being annoying. Takes so long to check every ship for cargo.
I don't spend all my online time attacking everything I see. I am not a full on annoyance to the galaxy
nova sierra
Well you also choose who you ally yourself with. And again given the fact that I'm fully aware of said practices whilst not even being part of that specific server does say something about your reputation.
mossy steeple
Lol interesting you don't play with us and yet heard of us. I won't get into the details of why I don't follow the players ROE. But it's not just to be annoying or that I am an angry teen.
Thanks for the info guys. Appreciate it.
nova sierra
Well using exploits to break the nodes is against the ToS so obviously we're gathering reports and keeping track of who is doing what. 😉
But anyhow, those messages crossed the line and in-game CS should take care of it. Goodnight. 👍
steep field
What's this about Devs breaking nodes. The Dirty EVil Sods....
mossy steeple
I'd say it's in the name, but we have changed names so many times I forget the tags and name
steep field
FYI... I can neither confirm or deny if I have broken any nodes. I can however confirm that I have been killed by some unruly game players. They simply won't follow roe. For some reason they don't like me using vemet as captain... But I like to use him. He saves my miner from a needless bloody death.
mossy steeple
What's break nodes? I just assumed that was attacking empties
steep field
Apparently one of the crew have a known bug
And the Devs (developers... Also evil) can't fix bugs.
mossy steeple
All the bugs and players in those areas get mentioned on GC.
nova sierra
Don't worry, people continue to change names all the time. Be it in-game username, alliance names and even discord.
We don't need names though and have been tracking for long enough to ensure everyone involved will be treated equally and accordingly.
Now really though guys, goodnight. 👋
steep field
John. How do I make reports. I've had worse than being called a p...k
mossy steeple
Lol good. Punish glitcher and insulting players to the max. Please! I paid so much into this game
Read up. They covered that just after my first post
Look there
steep field
Oh. Gimme a sec. I just saw us being mentioned... It's good to see us famous though
mossy steeple
:)
steep field
Oh right. I did that. Nothing ever happened
I also use the report button too
... anyway. Back to mining with vemet... My strongest crewman
😉👍
steep field
I think I just witnessed a data protection Breach and an unproven accusation above <@&509690795536941056>
I have a data release .. nothing within it could possibly prove that I have broken any node... ... So I find the above comment libelous...
nova sierra
Well that makes sense. Because you say you didn't.. right? So there wouldn't be.
Besides, all I said was that I'm aware of [DEVS] reputation. That you're in [DEVS] doesn't mean I'm accusing you individually.
As I've also said, we're gathering reports and keeping track of who is doing what.
We in this context, are mods. We have no legal contract with you personally nor are we able to view any of your information ourselves.
Please don't PM me again tonight - I've already said goodnight and would really like that sweet sweet sleep. 😄
twilit slate
When will you look at changing this, i constantly miss out on the last reward (and therefore the loyalty token) either by 5 as shown here (it used to be you needed to reach 240) or i don't reach the second last tier since i either do not have any research or buildings to do or completing in the timeframe or i cannot hit the high level hostiles due to the ship strength i have to hit and also there not being any of those level hostiles in the system for me to hit to begin with.
I have logged on daily and played for hours and what do i get for my playing loyalty - absolutely nothing.
You should rename it from loyalty token, as it is not rewarding loyalty at all.
Since introducing these tokens i have only been able to reach that reward twice, and since i now do not have any research to complete until i can level my ops again (sometime in the next decade) and the last few buildings take days (and don't actually get the 500 power creep anyway) this is a fruitless exercise and one you have placed well outside the reach for quite a number of players.
@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> ⬆
hushed swift
@twilit slate I will forward that to the devs.
Weekends the Cms arent normally online
twilit slate
Thanks @hushed swift
swift hemlock
All bloody day. Only STFC having connection issues and has to restart 50 freaking times. None of my other online games YouTube or anything having any problems. Just STFC.
Now I'm watching Netflix with no issues. Streaming video.
solar summit
Please... for the love of god give us the option to turn off alerts such as "your cargo is full" or event ones. It doesn’t shut up when you’re grinding hostiles and makes it so I can’t see if I have a pm or something in alliance chat. Alert me once but non stop for the cargo one is out of control
twilit slate
@swift hemlock restarting the game should get the dailies back.
swift hemlock
CANCEL FREAKIN RECALL OR WARP BUTTON. Never in Star Trek did they say they cant stop warping and turn around.
@twilit slate yep. Reset a dozen times today. Thanks. Its more connectivity using app thats driving me nuts. 😁
twilit slate
What country are you in
slow vector
The "one of your ships has reached cargo capacity" message needs to be cut down drastically, you get like 3 of that message for every action of a ship that's full. My ship has been destroyed and repairing for 10 minutes and I'm still getting those messages as the system tries to catch up
nova sierra
The repeating cargo capacity message also makes it impossible to view chat, or your dailies while it's continuously flashing. Very annoying.
opaque vine
reasons: 1 can not do dailies are asked to kill way to difficult opponenrs 2 refinery still only give less than 10 uc each per day and all things I can build need hundreds 3 can not do mining do to other players killing all miners 4 can not take nearly no players have res and high repair times 5 events what a joke I am asked to make 90m points that's killing 2100 NPC ships when all others also try to do that ..so can also not do event .....so refund my purchases or I must asked my credit card company to do it
lean dirge
Glitches stopping me opening chests, using faction store and refining anything. Please sort it out
steep field
Glitches costing me extra Res to repair my dead miners ... Captain Vemet is not amused
hallow pumice
Nice notification, it's not like 1/entire server can get it, and it's not like lower levels can't get it
twilit slate
Hi @hushed swift, further to yesterday's info...
Yesterday was a very good "dailies" achievement (but 5 short), this is where I sit the most (or the one just under it on a really bad day) and as you can see by my screentime for the past 7 days, I am loyal, but I am not rewarded for this whatsoever - I am almost punished for having nothing to build or research in the timeframe and my inability to hit the high end ships (or the rss for repairs if i try)
@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> 🔼🔼
hushed swift
@twilit slate have forwarded this as well. 😘
twilit slate
Thanks
nova sierra
@twilit slate a lot on our server had a simular thing, weve encouraged all of then to work on a second faction (not easy). But once you have 2 factions hitting the dialies is possible. But trust me if you only have 2 faction at the moment, working on getting good rep with a second is going to be hard
twilit slate
I will be doing exactly that @nova sierra, i have 17 more bps for the valkis, then I will grind back a second faction. But since you are only meant to select and build on one, the goals are really not achievable and the loyalty reward isn't for loyalty at all.
frank stag
Separate the locate and recall buttons or at least give one a standout color
gaunt osprey
What is the latinum exchange rate on 3* ore? I have one ship part that was 110 lat for 63, and another that wants 140 lat for 350
wicked jetty
You get a discount per unit over 100 common I believe
wanton nymph
Need a way to cancel warp... So frustrating when you hit recall by mistake and it's 20min each way 👊
ashen magnet
the popup system is annoying. Especially this one. I KNOW. Stop reminding me. I am not stupid.
lilac saffron
I get it 10 times per attack....
nova sierra
@ashen magnet one of your ships has reached cargo capacity. 🤣 we all feel this pain, wish this could be turned off to
half lion
exactly how many mining nodes have to be broken before they fix it, or at the very least do server maintenance? I mean, is there a % requirement before they care about this? Pretty irritating to have 6+ broken nodes in a system during a mining event. Good way to piss off your customers.
craggy egret
They claim to run a "fixing" program every time they do maintenance but they don't seem to be aware that their "fixing" program doesn't work.
craggy egret
They're not getting fixed on my server. only 1 fix has ever happened and all the same nodes were broken again within a day.
half lion
the pace at which they get broken again is the issue. They either need to solve what is causing it, or do maintenance 3+ times a week.
would be nice if they had a program that could identify broken nodes and reset them without requiring a server shutdown.
nimble trellis
I have a general concern with the notification system of the game. When I was attacked earlier discussed in #🌌-galaxy-chat , I wasn’t notified at the first attack and so far my base was raided before the final time, that’s when I was notified. The last attack really actually got me the chills that the game is not right with the notifications system.
half lion
In my experience, if you want regular notifications then you need to reboot the app every 30 min. Same goes for help requests, mission progress updates, and chat.
The moment I reboot the app, I get a flood of help requests pop up, pages of alliance chat, and all my mission/event progress updates.
after a certain point all those things stop updating and notifications sometimes do as well. Not sure why it happens, but a reboot solves it.
solemn coral
with a reboot, you simply get a fresh copy of your initial values
maybe they only send 'delta'/changed values on updates to save traffic
but the issue also might be that clients make a lot of requests
it's quite some transactions those servers need to handle
woeful gate
With latinum being the universal currency in the St universe you'd think you could use it in exchange for anything but nope, scopely added single units of uncommon to most base parts at lvl 25 to stop us using lat for instant upgrades.
bold sentinel
@nimble trellis
At the ama they said that the notification service doesn't have any resources essentially
So it doesn't always work
glad magnet
With repair times so long now after the Khan event I find myself having time between repairs (over an hour), to play other games. Go see #🔥-memes-no-talking
pale wyvern
To be honest with this even going on i have been getting common crystals it would be a great idea if we could trade the crystals & other materials in for the uncommon materials for upgrades.
nimble trellis
Hm
chrome quest
Buying missing resources with latinum
Requesting help every 8 hours in alliance for ship materials etc.
Even officers, uncommon materials etc Max help 30-60 a day
woven ledge
The XP.shown on the main screen is more than what is shown on a crew screen. Why is that?
cloud falcon
@delicate sentinel are you guys going to release the market anytime soon? So we can share our rss with fellow members
neon ledge
Where is the fix for the repair times? If you don't intend to fix this I'm disputing $500 of purchases.
woven ledge
Why is the game showing me an upgrade option but there is no upgrade option?
floral talon
@woven ledge looks like you can drop Ship XP into your Kehra which the system counts as an upgrade.
solemn coral
no
he does not have enough xp, he needs 2266 and only has 499, so thats not the case
thats a sync issue
@neon ledge they are intending to fix it, but don't expect the fix within the next 144 hours
and stop threatening with requests for refund, they don't care, everyone tries to use this threat
be glad and just do it then
but don't bother us with us
solemn coral
uhm no, blocking you is not an option as mod
the only acceptable blocks against you would be kick or ban, which I do not see a reason for
neon ledge
Its ridiculous to have someone on a forum tell you what you must say or not say.
solemn coral
it's redicilous to threaten with actions just coz you willingly spent money into a game that when you checked its reputation is known to not work 100%, and then go for a refund
neon ledge
While you are at it scopely, try fixing your economy. You are bleeding players.
solemn coral
I am NOT part of scopely, I am a moderator who has an influencer contract with them, but I am not their employee
we moderators are players just like you, we also put time and in some cases money into the game
but we don't go whine around, threatening with stuff in order to try to force to get things done
and actually, did you read the terms of service ?
requesting refunds is actually against the TOS of the game itself
if you buy something now, the game also tells you that what you bought is non refundable
you agree to that
meaning you wave away your rights to request a refund
pale wyvern
I really think it would help players when they are leveling up through the game if we could trade in a certain amount of common crystals to get uncommon crystal, it would be a good idea if players could trade in game so higher level players would help the lower level players.
floral talon
@solemn coral in his first image it shows he has 2266 cubes to level from 13 to 14 which is why I believe the system is indicating he has an “upgrade” available.
Oops nvm I see up top that he only has 499. Weird, so many glitches
solemn coral
@pale wyvern thats the purpose of the currently still in development being Market Place
pale wyvern
I am just giving my honest opinion on what could be improved. That's all
solemn coral
and I am just giving you the answer to your question. That's all 😉
however, uncommon and rare will be probably kept salespack only
packs are for those without patience
otherwise you'd already be able to use latinum to exchange for missing
lofty hawk
What is going on with premium recruit chests? i have opened nine ten box tabs and every one was nothing but xp and not much at that.
nova sierra
Wie kann es bitte sein wenn man alle aufgaben erfüllt dann nicht die volle Punkte bekommt ich kann nicht immer 5std am Stück online bleiben man muss schlafen und arbeiten also macht euch über diesen Schwachsinn Gedanken 👿👿👿
Und als no paygamer kann man das Klingonen event vergessen da man nicht genug kraft hat 😈😈😈👿👿👿
craggy egret
So the marketplace will be useless. Good know, won't look forward to it then.
sturdy edge
Untill a few weeks a go I could see under the building an research progress bars how many helps I had gotten. Now this is gone. Will this be reinstated?
solemn coral
@craggy egret just coz you hoped you could use it to quicker gain access to uncommon/rare which will probably not happen is no reason to call it completly useless
sturdy edge
@solemn coral Any prognosis when the market will get available?
solemn coral
nee (no for the non-dutchies)
now it's time for digital lunch in the form of a bunch of hostiles till maintenance
@sturdy edge reggea is trouwens mn buurman
ingame
sturdy edge
Lol, klein wereldje.
nova sierra
I think this speaks for everyone hopefully, thanks for making a great game idea , BUT Seriously with the amount of money Scopley has made from there Games we thought you guys would of fixed bugs and issues and at least be able to update the game without making more issues. It's like a glitch fest everytime we receive an update , to fix the glitches from the previous update. And so on and on . Get it together guys . Might actually get you more paying customers.
Really really eally poor Scopely. YOU SHOULD HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME
ancient lance
Scopely trying to fix a chain reaction, they fixing one bug and it coming two or three new problems.
keen quiver
We should get a boost pack for the inconvenience. To show good faith lmao
undone tree
tawdry musk
Whilst many issues repair times are costing players a fortune which seems to be swept under the carpet along with rewards not being shown along with uncommon issues along with everything else 🔥😡 a bit poor usually people test and learn from mistakes 🤣🤣
mossy gust
Not that anyone with any sense would take @solemn coral’s comment that by accepting the game’s TOS you “waive your right to a refund”, but just thought I’d remind ppl that domestic and EU consumer rights laws trump corporate TOS. If the product you buy is not “fit for purpose”, you are entitled to restitution. That includes digital items.
still mason
😆 So, I saw general feed back, bug reporting, events feedback, and ideas and suggestions... where do I file #GetPuctNopely? Should that be under ideas and suggestions?
static violet
Scopely is as much a liar as he is incompetent... It's really sad. No update as indicated and the thousands of bugs are still there. The least you can do when you announce an update failure and everyone puts up a shield for it is to keep your word!
static violet
hallow pumice
We already have a icon that shows that a ship has reached max cargo capacity, don't need to make it say at the top that a ship has reached max cargo capacity
hasty plover
@delicate sentinel Is there any plans to allow us to level up John Harrison or other Section 31 crew? I got the crew but no way to increase their capability.
inland steeple
@delicate sentinel Could scopely see it in their hearts to extend this player's shield on server 20? VHH player GodKingOdissious had a heart attack and everyone joined together to protect his base in case his shield went down. When I asked, the prognosis is unknown.
Could the scopely gods gift this player a 3-day or 7-day shield while he recovers?
tame sphinx
This event that is just ending has been great. Almost I forgive the insane repair times - almost. 😉
craggy egret
@solemn coral It's not just me that was hoping that, it's pretty widespread...in fact the only reason people even talk about the market. Virtually no one says "the refinery never gives me any common resources" or "I wish I could trade for common refines". I do agree that it may not be "completely useless" however if we can trade parsteel, tritanium, and dilithium. That would actually be a huge help.
dense canyon
How am I supposed to go spy into another aliance to get their locations? Who though this is a good idea?? And why this 8h restriction in the first place?
craggy egret
@dense canyon It wasn't changed to prevent you from easily spying on alliances, it was changed because large numbers of people were exploiting alliance helps.
dense canyon
@craggy egret Then fix helps, not restrict aliance leaving. Like wtf.
craggy egret
This is common in most games, bugs that players can benefit from are very rapidly fixed while bugs that are detrimental to gameplay take ages.
sage shuttle
stop spying grow a pair and fight them instead
i find when alliance need to use spies they are weak and have poor leadership and even poorer battle commanders in this game. battle in this game is pretty simple, find a war target and kill it. yes spies work for games like eve online but those games are so much more complex than this game is
craggy egret
Smart alliances set to invite only so people can't just pop in at will and see all their base locations.
neon ledge
Agree with Unmade and I'm sure others. This last event has been great. Almost makes repair times forgivable.
molten sequoia
Well i think the game needs a spot in the alliance tab to tell when people were last active to help clan management
and a real exchange
@tame sphinx and look its unmade 😛
cunning carbon
Agreed. The Alliance tab needs a few tools along with last active for alliance management. I'd like to enjoy playing more then playing STFC : Spreadsheet Commander
dense summit
Please take out the notification "One of your ships has reached cargo capacity."!!!!
gentle goblet
@dense canyon @craggy egret lol that's such a stupid fix, if indeed it's done to fix the help "exploit", there's enough alliances around to hop until the cooldown ends...
dense canyon
@sage shuttle lol you thrashing spying? It's the smart thing to do. Saves time. If you need to find some base that is in public alliance, my alliance hops into the enemy one and in 5mins is done. I guess your strong alliacne with great leadership clicks for hours around the map 😂
sage shuttle
@dense canyon anyone that joins public alliances are usually new players or players with little or no rss worth stealing
dense canyon
@sage shuttle with private there are usually no problems. People in such alliances behave or are kicked out. The public ones are full of various scoundrel, that sometimes deserves beating. The ress is not why you attack.
vivid fox
@delicate sentinel, it has been put here many times and ways. I hope that a more tactful presentation will@prove helpful.
There is considerable discontent in the Player community with a wide range of what is and isn’t being done for improving STFC. The reoccurrence of fixed bugs with them bringing friends leaves players in significant doubt as to the competence of the Dev, QA, & other teams in the supply chain. It has been disappointing to see fix patches rolled out to cripple significant regions of the world. Now a partial fix is announced and scheduled to have it canceled shortly before it was to go live adds worse to already bad. Whatever revealed the problem, was it not present until start time? Is this being taken as a learning experience?
Scopely is deeply distrusted, seen as a money grab regardless of the fitness for use of the products purchased. Money flows into Scopely not out to players who didn’t get what they paid for. There needs to be a makeover to address issues that predate you and continue. Focus on providing a good product and complaints will become a dull roar, if that.
Hope this helps. <@&509691205798592532>, please assist in getting this where it needs to go.
nova sierra
@vivid fox Thanks for taking the time to write that and remaining as constructive as possible. Wish all feedback was formulated this way.
Words can't shed a company of its reputation; only actions can.
I'm sure they're trying their best to improve more and more, as evident by the new CM - new communication platforms (Reddit, in-game) and at the very least clearly showing they know which issues hurt most - even if the fixes aren't always successful.
Please trust that a lot of things depend on this game and that a lot is happening behind the curtains to ensure its success.
It's hard to remain hopeful at times - but it's what we have to keep helping each other with to ensure we get the game we all want so bad.
Thanks again for the feedback, I'm sure if @delicate sentinel has anything to add to this - he will.
🖖
No,the damn repairs are not forgivible...ffs
still mason
Agreed
I know no less than 30 paying players who dropped this game because of scopely's horsefuckery...
dense canyon
Scopely knows they have a playerbase of people that do not mind grind. Such people are usually patient and can endure some abuse. If you notice, most of the Scopely rhetoric is: We are working on it, thanks for being patient, no refund but thanks for understanding, trust that a lot is happening behind curtains, it's comming soon(tm), etc. Objectively from the facts so far this is not the case, what you do and how can be compared with other developers. You lost all trust, you are not fooling nobody. Some actions you made are inexusable.
eager stratus
@dense canyon I played marvel contest of champions for over 4 years, you wanna talk about a grind? You literally had to spend every living moment in their arena, non stop fighting to earn a champ.
Literally people would setup 2 hour alarms when they slept until.their champs refreshed to grind again in the arena.
Now that's a grind and when I compare it to this I'm like ...
😏
Not to mention getting tagged by your alliance members to move every hour so they could move, that was exhausting
dense canyon
@eager stratus a little grinding if the rewards are worth it is no problem, but when you become a puppet of the game, having to setup alarms and wake up at night to progress, there is something wrong. It's like gambling addiction. The problem starts when a company takes advantage of these people, charges them insane amounts of money for a momentary relief that moves them into even deeper grind. Such company if doing so should be most caring about people that are trapped. But if on top of that it shaits on people's heads with manipulative empty promises, that's super brutal level of toxic and abuse.
eager stratus
Definitely some gamers are much more intense than others
hallow pumice
No game should ever cut into my sleep time
Unless I choose to let it do so, aka staying up later to play for fun
And I only do that for console games, not to get up to slap up another shield, because my shield went down during the night
This game I have to hop on, do a grind, start repairs reset nodes, start new builds, get officer recruit tokens, and get off and wait for repairs to finish, then rinse repeat, add something fun to make me want to keep on playing while waiting for repairs if your going to make them long and costly
eager stratus
You make such a great point
I think there is something to be said of this type of game, it's ok to have long build times or repair times if the gamer has something to do in between
swift hemlock
YouTube works. Netflix works. STFC can't get a bloody connection. Wtf?
hallow pumice
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>⬆️
hushed swift
@swift hemlock youve linked your game to play store or gamecenter?
If so, uninstall, restart device, reinstall.
swift hemlock
Google play
I have on 2 devices.
Ok. I try that now. Maybe corrupted file? @hushed swift thanks.
hushed swift
Let me know please. @swift hemlock
hallow pumice
Also the new survey isn't meant for free to plays, I put that in and it wouldn't let me continue 😁guess ik what that means
azure sphinx
@delicate sentinel , sharing from general discussion. I didnt see this tag before. :)
this is feedback of a friend:
She leveled up 15 and the very next morning when she woke up, she saw her base was attacked and she lost all Dilithium.
This was the breaking point of her being really unhappy with the game, thinking she might delete the game.
Why? In her words: "It is just not fun! Too many bullies. Not enough mining spots...to be honest, unless you spend money every day, it is a shit game.
Nah, greed. They (you the game support and creators) dont care.
Developers are wankers.
Level caps-only same levels should be able to attack and as you level up the game should take the high people away. Make them move their base. Or it is just a bullies game.
lv 14 no attack is crap as well. As you work for a good couple of weeks to get everything done and as soon as you go 15, raided...so what's the point."
The day after that, she was attacked by majortom player 25 TIMES. And after that, constantly attacked or bullied.
To be honest with you, I do not think you guys really care about any feedback you get. You fix things that are bearable in the game and have not even touched the surface of fixing what really bothers many users across the galaxy.
-overcapacity cargo attacking should be disabled or disable the fact that someone can see how much cargo you have. And enable the fact that if you get attacked by player, there can be a 3 to 1 chance, you can get all of his cargo as well, whether you lose or win the fight.
-when hunting for resources-player's hunted cargo should also be protected. Some players attack you just to steal your cargo after you spent 30-60 mins hunting around. Noone likes freeloaders, slackers and lazy people. Make them work!
-as you level up, the attacking range of players widens. Shrink it! Or just same levels can attack each other or for all levels the same rule. Only one level below and one level above can attack you.
-players who are too lazy, on purpose, when one time zone is sleeping and another time zones wakes up, they go around and start killing all miners in the system. Also, some wake up an hour before everyone else does and go around, kill miners, because they are too lazy to put their time and effort into doing what the rest of us have to do.
I have even seen a player who killed all miners in the system for fun and to show off and brag in Galaxy Chat. DISABLE that.
Either create a function that when you deplete a mine, you get automatically pushed out of the mine OR
a player can only kill one miner every hour, only same player (miner) every 2 hours.
-Enable that player can deplete one mine once BUT cannot return to the same mine for an hour.
Also enable that he is protected for 1 hour of mining BUT then can be PUSHED OUT of the mine-NOT KILLED.
Miners on 0 mine get killed TOO MANY times.
Enable being pushed of the mine by player if the mine is less than 50 and greater than 1 and pushed out at 0.
(I have spoken to players and some wish PvP was just disabled).
This way everyone gets a fair share of resources every day. And can make a progress in the game.
-change the color to see quickly who your teammates are. Purple really is not the best color to contrast blue.
(And if you are so hung up on making this game a milking cow, then those who pay for the game, times of such protections are split in half.) Also, players who are payees, should be colored yellowish/gold color and not the same as free players of blue color. Let us see who they are, because paying for the game is just not the same. For a free player it is cheating. It is ok, if they want to cheat the game this way. Good for you. We just want to see the difference.
-CREATE MORE MINES. You know where. Especially G3 gas, ore, crystals. For those of us who have to gather it at lower level, we cannot because higher levels sit on it, either all day or fight among themselves to have it and by the time we, lower levels get there, someone of higher level has already taken it.
Honestly! What the heck?!?!.
-Create a tab ticket for reporting players who bully, harassase and abuse-of course with screenshots attaching as proof. If you think this crap is not real, no, it is real. I have two mental cases blocked due to this- BrigiteMacron and WilHuffTarkin. One (third one) was actually mature enough to apologize thanks to leader of the group and the player himself was a man enough.
-Option to report player who is bad sport.-kills your miner and other ships numerous times(3-5 times in a row) just because he has mental issues. And if you don't believe, observe the GC and bullcrap conversations that goes on in there. Even though some are adults (18+), they act like 5 year old spoiled children.
Attacker never plans on mining. Just destroying and fleeing away.
-create a point marker (just like the yellow one) to see where the unopened missions are, given that I have already visited the system. We waste enough time with this game, putting up with nonsense above.
We really do not need to waste any more time to search around where we have already been, where those unopened missions are. It is extremely tedious.
-Make red hostiles from lv 11+ on, active. If they come in your vicinity of 1-2 seconds or go over your ship, they attack you.
Fix inbox. What is it good for if we cant use it.
Fix Mines that do not work??!?! for weeks same mines have not been working.
-create a friend list. Many of us are friends with friends from other alliances. It would be nice to add them somewhere so I dont have to scroll through alliance lists all the time, just to find one name. Not to mention, sometimes a friend cannot be found because the list only goes down to 100.
IMPROVE CONVERSION RATE for gas and ore. I mine 15k of each resource, just to get common gas out of it with 2 batches when I clearly need more uncommon resource as it is needed more and more. What the heck. With all overcapping, undercapping and senseless killing and destroying and little penis syndrome players going on...what the hell?!?!. Do you realize how much time we waste???
ENABLE that alliances can join. If they join their AC chat is joined. If they separate, they are separated for 2 weeks before they can join again. There are some great people I would love to join with as an alliance.
I sincerely think these are good suggestions but it all depends on you if you implement them to really improve the game. If you really want to improve it. to create balance and give us the control of the game.
Otherwise it really is a great breeding platform for psychiatrists to find themselves some new clients for their business. The mental issues of some people is unbelievable.
And does not resemble origins of Star Trek at all.
That is my honest feedback via website...
lavish prism
@azure sphinx First. Let me ask about your friend. 1.) Did she fully upgrade defense platform to level 15 and research what is available for Defense platform? 2.) Did she use peace shield? 3.) Have she try to relocate her base to other system?
4.) Did she try to at least docked one ship to defend the base while she is offline?
azure sphinx
@lavish prism it is now a thing of a past. I am sure she was advised on all fronts because she was in a really good, helpful, friendly alliance. I think she underestimated the chances of attack and forgot put up shields. I dont know exactly how much she had researched but she said she researched all she could. She did after she got hit another 2 or 3 times yes. I dont know. I think so. But she went offline for some time and now we barely are in touch. If she even plays anymore. The difference between when she was chatty and now is significant. I reckon she lost lots of interest for playing. But her experience is an evidence to unfixed things this game has, which happens to many of us when we try to progress.
lavish prism
ah alright.
digital oar
solid nacelle
I can't purchase any packs in game because "One of your ships has reached cargo capacity." The crappy notification banner is blocking revenue generation for Scopely.
digital oar
Seriously how does a lower power ship beat a ship counter to the games Rock Paper Scissors. Wtf Scopely
gentle goblet
same way you kill stronger NPCs?
wise urchin
@digital oar it's all about the crew, the other person has the critical hit crew on
nova sierra
Dear scopely, i don't know who your productmanager is, but you should fire him.
Just imagine : as a lvl 22 you are killed by a lvl 30. What would you think? Oh, no problem... I invest 1000 bucks and kill him? Well, due to the experience with your packages even 1000 bucks would not be sufficient to step 5 levels.
So, one would think : nope. Then I won't invest any more money.
Believe me: i know this thinking from many players around lvl 20.
I know you earn a lot of money... But you are doing two big mistakes - just from my and many players Point of view - the lvl vs lvl is not properly adjusted. You might buy packages for 100bucks to step a complete Level... But the packages right now do not offer that. So, many Players quit because of no chance to compete with players of 8 lvls above them. Not worth investing.
So, as a productmanager it should be his duty to change some things to earn even more money on the long term. You should offer more packackes for less money (what you already started) and stop frustrating players tooo much. Frustration is good to convinced Players to buy packages...but too much frustration convinces players either to stop playing or minimum to stop buying.
So an advice from 17 players i asked : adjust Level vs Level. Most of them stopped buying. 12 of them are thinking about quit the game. 3 more dont care....
Anyway, i was asked to tell that to you.
Do what you think is appropriate with it.
Best regards.
hallow pumice
@digital oar mind posting the battle logs?
nova sierra
This feedback comment is for the star trek fleet command support. Something needs to be done with ship repair speeds. I'm in a top ten alliance and the repair speeds are ridiculously slow. A player should not have to wait over an hour for a ship to repair . This clearly makes defendmg our bases and waring with other alliances real difficult to defend or launch an adequate attack and defense. Also the travel times going from one galaxy to the next is way to slow these issues with repair times and travel times need to be speeeded up. This would make the game more of a competitive game. As its stands, your repairing speeds and travel times really need to be sped up. As they are way to slow and are a major disappointment to the ganersxon this system....
digital oar
@hallow pumice sorry it’s to far back
@wise urchin it’s not like I have a shit crew
What’s the point if a lower powered ship can defeat Rock Paper Scissors
hallow pumice
I'm thinking he got crits with the sally
digital oar
Why even have Rock Paper Scissors
hallow pumice
Sally's crits are usually off the roof and do a lot of damage
digital oar
Great then the battleship will get wrecked
Or a lower powered explorer
But 100k less power and going against Rock Paper Scissors
heavy delta
Or in your case, a higher power explorer
heavy delta
I can’t even play the game anymore lmao, it crashes every 2 mins
heavy delta
For two months straight I got nothing but common out of the standard refinery
hallow pumice
Nope it's not balanced
storm hornet
@digital oar the ship balance on this game is laughable. It needs to be fixed. Your right, that's an insane loss.
tribal lodge
There hasn't been any fix to the spinning nodes in Astrida, Nelve or several others as you announced. As a matter of Fact, there are even more now. The balance to cost for everything is way off as well. Players are being screwed at the rapid rate.
fallow pumice
I was just attacked by Birdee from UGK in an unprovoked hit and run attack breaking the Accord and I wasn’t over or on a Zero Node.
fading wasp
@fallow pumice please post this to our alliance discord channel.
twilit slate
So after waiting 4 days for a building to complete, it doesn't even make the 500 creep daily. ALL buildings should have a minimum power creep of 500, otherwise what is the point of that daily task? Waiting all that time and only getting 400/500 is spitting in our faces Scopely.
@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056>
still mason
@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> Here's a 🍍 any questions as to where it goes just watch "little nicky" with Adam Sandler. I'm done with this game and will not be back. All because of Support... or lack there of.. #NoRefund #NoCompensation #NoResolutiob #NotSurprised #ByeFelicia
pulsar finch
@azure sphinx probably the worst ideas ever... without paygamers there would be no game. From what I have seen some players are just playing it so dumb: it is all about cost and rewards. If your base is packed with resources use a shield... some people are just asking for it.
@digital oar At first glance this really looks like an impossible outcome. And we all know the Saladin is overpowerd and will hopefully be rebalanced. That said officer really do count a lot especially if one crew is maxed and one crew is one tier down. A maxed critical hit crew on Saladin is hard to crack. The other thing who got the first shot? And did the fight last an uneven number of rounds?
And lvl 32 is another milestone lvl...
And just from the screen I would not put up bones against interceptors they fire too few rounds for him to get effective. Bones is great against battleships and for attacking stations
azure sphinx
@pulsar finch hm,hehehe...I would say, you need to look into how business really works. If they taught you that you make a malfunctioning product or service and people will pay for it, then I really feel for you my friend. They taught you wrong. That is not how the business world works. Every entrepreneur who started from scratch will tell you, 1st you invest ridiculous amount of time into your development. And then you either invest your own money into it (and twice as much time, again) or you find investors. Customers will not pay for your errors, you will. First you create a game, for free, then you test it-for free,...perhaps you will have to pay testers to test your game. You are very fortunate if they do it for free(which is what is happening here) and when it works well...you get paid. Not other way around buddy. And if it has glitches and you get paid, you can be very thankful that is the case. Because people will not tolerate your errors for very long. 😉
@near lodgely can be very thankful that people are actually buying within the game. IF they are not, they are very greedy and care only that is making money now and not that it will be making longterm income. And longterm income comes with making the game balanced for all.
Considering you had nothing constructive to say, for everyone's good, all I can say...
Take care. 😃
astral wadi
Undo the alliance cool down. This sucks
sand cliff
@astral wadi Completely agree
chrome thorn
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> Any word on that "switching server" or "inviting to join server" option?
I mean, we did go to the moon and back, so it can't really be THAT difficult .... right?
void breach
Moon landing was fake 🤣😂
hallow pumice
@void breach it was faked, on the moon
wicked jetty
Dern those Hollywood bean counters realizing that shooting on the moon was the cheapest option!
dusky bison
Found a broken mine already that was working a couple hours ago. Keep trying, Scopely! LOL
pulsar finch
@azure sphinx pretty high horse you sit on... And From my point of view Gaming industry has worked differently for at least 10 years now. Just look at star citizen as an example of people spending money on a game that does not even exist but that is not the point I think your suggestions make for a pretty boring game. A game I would not like playing.
Payers are cheaters what a mind blowing statement...
People who raid and go on pirate tours are just working their angle of the game you do not have to like it or them but they are not lazy or anything else they just play the game.
Do not get me wrong this game has its flaws but overall for such a huge game in its first year it is pretty good already it needs a bit of balancing yes, a few more things to do and different approaches to success but I am confident we will see some huge changes along the way.
digital oar
@pulsar finch I had promoted Kirk/Spock/Bones all 3000.
@pulsar finch do I HAVE to use Uhura to kill a lower powered interceptor on the power wheel? If you said I do I might virtually slap you.
hasty plover
Did something change with the new client? People cannot rejoin an alliance they've left for 8 hours?
bold sentinel
Yes
To stop people abusing helps and events
Seems people complaining are the ones doing it ? 😆😆
hasty plover
Um no. Stupid assumption though. We have a protocol on our server where if someone on our team is getting looted at close proximity and defense is nearly impossible, usually because of this sh#t client, then we have to boot the player being looted, reclaim their resources, and help them get it back at a later time. Now they cannot rejoin for 8 hours and will miss out on alliance goodies from events. Woulda been nice to know this sh$t ahead of time, We would have tried to hold out protecting for longer.
As far as the abuse goes it's theory. Not an alliance I know of has practiced it because it would drive their officers insane.
nova sierra
Sadly it's a valid assumption and your protocol is that in the vast minority. But it is what it is.
bold sentinel
Theory my arse
swift phoenix
I know "abusing" help requests happens, however, being told that this new change had happened, instead of having to work it out for ourselves would have been useful
hasty plover
Scopely being transparent? You are asking waaaay too much.
@bold sentinel Say what you want, but most people have better things to do and as usual instead of Scopely fixing a problem they silently caused more. Can't fix stupid but you can sure get hit with it every time there is an update.
@nova sierra It's a smart protocol. Would you let 100mn resources go to an enemy to let them beef up and kill you, or retain it within your alliance? The answer is pretty simple.
green patio
@hasty plover let it go to an enemy, it's quicker to recover that way .... but I get some alliances are still into cannibalism, I believe there are still some earth societies that practice it.
For most civilised people though it is seen as poor form.
hasty plover
@green patio That's stupid.
green patio
@hasty plover ok, well I respect your reasoning
hasty plover
I know. It sounds terrible but better than handing the enemy the resources to kill ya with.
green patio
If your enemy doesn't grow who will you feed off at higher levels ? I guess you just need to boot one of your own anytime the pack needs extra resources ... not the kind of group I'm interested in joining 👍
bold sentinel
It was rife on our server, leaving and rejoining for helps, some people don't have better things to do..
Hence there's been quite a few big players allianceless for 8 hours 😆😁
azure sphinx
So, I was in a system with 2 ships. I send them to another system. 3 mins travel. Ok. As I watch them arrive, one few seconds away from the mine, I move to another system to check out something. I come back, I see one ship on the mine and the one that was few seconds from the mine, has now 2-3 mins to go. Still?!?. Then I click on the ship, designate a target near the mine, ANOTHER 3 mins to go. Can someone explain this mess?!?!
#IwishIrecordedThisCrap
@Emily.Scopely#0477 please tell them to fix things like that. Start to @delicate sentinel (hehe).
Another thing, lv8 mining g3 gas. ?!?! What for if you cant use it until you are lv20. Moreover, we tried to kick him of the mine as it was 0. After one try, being killed. We couldn't kick him anymore. glitched. As if he was not there, although he was. Priya 22.
I recommend you implement my comment from above-about mining-to be pushed out.
merry crescent
@nova sierra I agree, am level 19 can't attack a level 14 player but can get slaughtered by a level 24 player. Lost loads of assets, due to a bug that didn't give a shield after first attack!
fickle raven
Hi. Developers, instead of fixing real bugs, you just break the game. You did the worst that was possible - you entered a delay of 8 hours to enter the alliance after the exit. Why did you do it? 🤔
carmine jay
Why Is this a problem for you? No more free speedups?
I have not left an alliance for 6 months, no problems here.
fickle raven
@carmine jay Hi. And this too 😃
carmine jay
😬
Joking aside, it will likely cause some free to play to quit. Which means less plankton for whales to eat i guess.
But Scopely dont want free to play 😬
No money, no pew pew
fickle raven
You're absolutely right. That's why I ask why they kill the game? And they cut the branch on which they themselves sit. They expect more gold to come in, but the effect may be reversed.
Just with such times of construction and research, the game will turn into a turtle war.
Some stupid hangar on level 22 - 2 days. 100 points in power. This is nonsense 😩
gentle goblet
@fickle raven I've been playing just fine as a F2P now at level 26, never saw a need to hop between alliances to get extra helps
fickle raven
@gentle goblet Between alliances - not need to. In ours own Alliance need to 😃
still mason
Yep the game sure is broken... just like scopely support... trash just straight trash. Glad I jumped off that sinking ship. They will always have their loot box addicts I guess. And as long as they have people who don't care how shitty it is throwing money to them they are not gonna fix a thing that is important to players.
Hell I told them how they could keep me on and they just shoved the "we don't care" attitude right in my face.
So I'm on to bigger and better things
Having mo fun and no stress
burnt finch
Any chance of adding 1hr shields into the alliance store for say 5credits.that would be good.and on the subject of shields.a 10 shield would be nice option aswell @rigid vapor could you look into this please
hallow pumice
@green patio he's on my server, he'd rather still be the top dog pvp alliance than rahter be a sport about it with others
green patio
🙄
dense canyon
@bold sentinel @nova sierra @carmine jay why not able to rejoin alliance is a problem? Because you can't return when you go spy into enemy public one to get people's locations. Private aliances have rules and kick scoundrel out, but in public ones it's where the worst kind of players hide. And why the rejoining ban is stupid? Because it doens't solve anything. I can found infinite aliances and move all players or move between several existing and receive however many helps I like. They fixed nothing. Instead of actually fixing it they just made a stupid restriction.
rough dagger
I love being able to have fun once every 2+ hours. Repair times still suck
nova sierra
@dense canyon To make possible impossible is a lot of work. To make it such a hassle that is no longer worth the investment, is not.
You are free to found infinite alliances and move people around if you'd like, it's your life after all. But a lot of people who are even remotely connected with their allies won't do that.
Therefor the biggest portion of this issue is resolved with this change.
dense canyon
Like I said, you don't have to move all aliances, you can just be a nomad going through like 3 of them, not that big of a hassle. On a completely different note: why you want proactive people on sever to finish things fast: because it creates positive dynamic in the server. People need more ress, need go to raid more, having to do things makes the game fun. If you build ops and have to wait 7 days now wihtout anything to do inbetween, you go play different game. The "fix" serves as another filter to push non-paying players out of the game. Aren't there enough of these in the game?
The maintanance was supposed to fix spinning nodes. That is what was in release notes. But it made rejoining alliances restricted and nodes didn't fix. Still spinning nodes.
nova sierra
@dense canyon If you want to be a nomad, there's ups and downs to that. You're free to. ^^
Please report any still spinning nodes in #👾-bug-reporting
And ensure you're on the latest update when doing so, please. 👍
dense canyon
@nova sierra I don't, but I want to be able to quickly find someone's location
@nova sierra why do you think you need to report spinning nodes? So they can manually "fix" them, I guess reset them somehow in each maintanance. But so far they did not fix the root cause why they go bad. And they probably never will from the incompetence we observe so far.
bold sentinel
It's an exploit essentially that has been closed
No tears here
Please tell me there are not more spinning mines
nova sierra
@dense canyon We need reports of spinning nodes to identify the root causes. That's plural. 1 of such things was fixed recently, if there are more; they need to investigate.
dense canyon
@bold sentinel I am not complaining that exploit has been close, I am complaining about the method they choosed. It restricts what shouldn't been restricted. They could fix it correcly that you cannot receive more than 1 help from any player on the server. That would be a good fix. Not this one.
nova sierra
@dense canyon There's a constant balance that needs to be done as for time/effort/results. There are more things than just this that require attention. They can't do everything in perfection because other aspects would suffer.
bold sentinel
Fair enough @dense canyon
@nova sierra is very helpful
Shame he doesn't work for scopely 😆
dense canyon
@nova sierra I coulnd't care less about internal struggles as a customer. There is a product and there is a price the company charges. If the product is not good and price is high, it doesn't matter why they cannot do it.
nova sierra
@bold sentinel I like my position more than Panic's. I'm able to speak freely and yet get to see both sides of each situation.
This helps mediate things. Plus I'm not on the clock, so I can get into details as much or as little as I like - unlike in-game CS for example. 😛
@dense canyon Good thing then that it's a F2P game. You can decide if they've made a good enough game for you to make a purchase in or not. 😉
dense canyon
@nova sierra Exactly. And my feedback to them is they are not making a good enough job to deserve (any more of) my money.
nova sierra
But trust me, in my time as Host/Manager at McD's - I've kicked out plenty of paying customers who just couldn't keep themselves in check.
It's important to stay reasonable, constructive and most of all; reach a state of mutual understanding.
It can't be all of us always in the right and Scopely in the wrong.
The game is still relatively new. Give 'm a break every now and then 😛
That's cool; you're not making a real good argument with the points you're making but that's an opinion like yours and we have to respect each other in that. 👍
Anyhow, time for a meal. Hope I could clear things up for you. 👋
🖖
chrome thorn
@delicate sentinel there's probably about 10-15 dead accounts scattered around your servers. We tried again to join up in the same server and couldn't manage it. How many exists for East Coast United States?
Just curious to know if Scopely doesn't want new players to join mature servers.
rough dagger
Repair times that are hours long are not reasonable
bold sentinel
They don't care
torn wadi
they do care, they like it. latinum grab
they reduced repair costs (thanks a lot, those rss come out of bases for free) and jacked up repair times. You cant raid speedups or lat, gotta buy it
hallow pumice
@dense canyon because you don't need to stoop so low to find someone, you can look for it, much harder, but a honest way to do it, be a klingon with honor, even when In battle with a shameless one
@torn wadi enter the realta, with parasteel repairs, and instant repair times, she'll get the job done asap
torn wadi
lol, yeah. great ship
dense canyon
@hallow pumice There is no honor in working in more difficult and stupid way. And on top of that there are also Romulans in this game, spying fits them even more.
lilac saffron
Anybody else hear the @nova sierra voice when reading? Lol
nova sierra
Please state the nature of your moderation emergency.
Nothing? Good. Time for bed. 😂 goodnight 👋
violet crow
Hi a friend can’t login to the game. What should they do?
nimble trellis
So most of the game is having an “overwhelming dislike”. The game literally send my ship back a few seconds back once it literally arrives to one destination (To simplify, delayed response time).
Also, I do take notice on multiple crashes over the game. And I do not know what’s the issue.
craggy egret
Please stop having hostile fighters spawn right on top of us the moment we enter a system! With the long warp times and even longer repair times it's extremely infuriating.
And why do they have to be 3x more powerful than any other ship of their level?
nova sierra
Quit with the overt money grubbing events,and repair times..
nova sierra
If the game is pissing you off more than it’s entertaining you... JUST QUIT!! Hell, that’s what most people seem to be doing anyway. Only people really sticking around are those that have put a car (or small house) worth of money into it, and those (like me, though even I’m losing patience) who still stupidly believe Scopely actually gives a dang and might actually fix this into a truly playable game. They want money. As much as they can get as fast as they can get it. And as long as there’s obsessive gamers that will pay more for a mobile game that I did for my BMW... they’ll be able to keep doing it that way. So again, either learn to enjoy the game as it is, or quit. Those really are the only options anyone has.
mystic dock
This shit needs to stop if it continues I’m quitting this garbage ass game
Last 5 refines giving this crap 🖕
sick prism
My only feedback here is that I gonna chargeback their asses...
Never seen such a disorderly and crap quality support as that of Scopely; never the same person answering, hence all different kind of answers, yet none making any sense or on topic...
The fact Scopely not acknowledging they fucked up yet again on that so called “fix” from May the 14th and support playing dummy when you try to communicate with them about it, was the final push for me.
No more Scopely software for me ever again. Plus gonna chargeback whatever my timeframe with Apple still allows me
Thank you very much Scopely for all the frustrations, broken products again and again, and your brick wall support...
acoustic zenith
They're a waste of space.
gaunt osprey
The latinum exchange rate for G3 materials is discontinuous and unfair below 100 units of material. Buying 99 units costs 3x the cost of 101 units.
hybrid elm
Just saying, change the skin of the klingn fighter, it's to similar with others and can't see it's a fighter
hybrid elm
4th time i've crashed my kumari on these fucking fighters
sturdy edge
Why is 3* uc gas so hard to come by? About 10 times refining 2 batches at a time and only once got 6 uc??
Refining the crystal and ore give a lot more uc. How is this possible?
neon parrot
system down??? eastern us??? 1041PM edt....system locked out....what gives???
royal wyvern
This keeps happening whether on WiFi or cell.
Not my connection.
System issue?
Lost a ship targeted by an enemy when I couldn’t get in. Early it kept locking at 60% load.
fast egret
Connection issue for me. Cannot bring up any dialog in the game if connected
celest mica
Ok whos amex black got decline!?!
royal wyvern
LOL
royal wyvern
Appears to be fixed.
craggy egret
It was a game issue, seems to have happened to everyone.
distant ivy
Still not working for me
cobalt moth
Feedback: fix your servers
thin turtle
They need to fix this glitching lagging issue it's getting ridiculous to keep exiting the game and going back to try and get system to fix itsself
tame sphinx
Holy cow the Saladin is OP - and doesn't make any sense. Since when were the Federation the ones to put giant cannons on their ships and shoot first?
Shooting first is a Romulan trait - they are the masters of the sucker punch.
Even with both triangles in my favor, a Saladin still nukes my Centurion. One shot and my shield is down - so my main damage mitigation ability is gone.
One wonders if the ship designers have ever actually watched Star Trek.
There is a reason why the Defiant in DS9 was such a big deal, or the dreadnought in Into Darkness had to be kept a secret.
Both of those ships violated Federation martial philosophy.
nocturne latch
As a centurion owner i can confirm it sucks against saladin 😦
Wish i had known this months ago before choosing roms
tame sphinx
Everything sucks against a Saladin - it isn't just the ship theoretically designed to kill it. The Saladin is OP to the point of breaking the game.
If any ship should get an insanely powerful first attack, it is the Gladius. I don't have it yet, but I bet it doesn't have anything comparable to the Saladin's big guns.
Again, one wonders if the guy coming up with the ship stats has ever even watched Star Trek.
To make the Centurion even more nonsensical - its most powerful weapon doesn't even fire until round 3 of combat. Fixing it to fire in round 1 would go a long way toward fixing the ship.
carmine jay
Hey @gaunt osprey have you / can you scale that chart into the thousands? And do you have one for buying parsteel too? 👍
cunning kernel
Players, take screenshots of the research you do before and after. Example: cost reduction of RSS when upgrading ships, you will possibly see no difference, I didn't when doing "Klingon ship structure" RSS needed are the same pre and post.
Stop wasting your money on this game.
Collect what information/ proof you can to take scopley to court/small claims to get your money back.
ruby plume
Who can help me with my problem with stuck ship to ask scoply to speed it up ?
gaunt osprey
@monobrow I'm not sure scaling further would be more informative unless you're seeing a different exchange rate than 0.4 beyond 100 units of G3. I'm a lowly lvl 24 and I only have data points I've seen first hand.
I'll try to get some graphs for other resources, but I haven't needed to buy the basics lately. 3* ship parts for latinum appear to follow a single curve that drops from about 2:1 to roughly 1:1
carmine jay
Thanks Beard, ill run some numbers - at some point 😬
storm hornet
<@&509690795536941056> just go ahead and remove the refinery from the game please. There is ZERO POINT to anyone spending any time mining and refining.
Almost 750 data samples from levels 26-36.
On average 2.22 UC per refine batch
PATHETIC. Insulting.
gentle goblet
@storm hornet and what about commons? 😃
wicked jetty
I find myself spending lat on 3* commons all the freaking time. It's kind of annoying that the refinery doesn't even give enough of that lol
carmine jay
Great and also infuriating to see these numbers in the flesh @storm hornet . Thanks for doing this
Hopefully it will create the change we need
Raise this daily till they respond imo
gentle goblet
@wicked jetty I had enough commons until now, I ran out of common crystals for the horizon lol
But my point was more about the refinery also provising that... not only uc and rare
carmine jay
Oh and @storm hornet , assume that is x2 option?
storm hornet
@carmine jay this is mostly 2x and 3x refines, with very few 1x, though hit seems doing a 3x doesn't improve your chances at loot, it just gives you 1 extra chance with really terrible odds.
@gentle goblet we are keeping common data as well, but not everyone kept it so I excluded it from the report.
faint gate
@storm hornet data driven, great job! I would be interested if @delicate sentinel and Scopely want to fix it as it would reduce the incentive to pay for packs. I’m assuming that your statement that refining is a waste of time means that you pay to get these resources?
Scopely I would really like to see that you move to a subscription model where players can pay monthly subscriptions to get regular or daily resource packs delivered.
storm hornet
It takes thousands of UC to upgrade 1 part on a decent faction ship. At 2.22 UC/refine, it will never happen unless you pay.
At really high levels it takes 100s of rares, which you only get at the rate of 0.09/refine
It's completely impossible to progress using mining and refining, they just need to delete those activities from the game IMO
They're just wastes of time
fallen epoch
You all keep saying your going to fix the game and make the game better for everyone who plays. Well where is it, I haven't seen you do s***. Yeah you keep making it worse.
Oh and get rid of all these f***ing dead accounts.
dense canyon
It's a paywall. The problem with it is that the price of game increases the more you progress, so by paying and progressing you are screwing yourself. It's like a car that when you drive it the gas for it gets more expensive.
ebon thistle
@dense canyon its like a car cause in order to progress even at lower levels you have to make a full car payment
hallow pumice
Diesal car during 2008
ebon thistle
in order for me to go up one tier on my ship will cost me 400$ i pay 350$ a month on my car lol
ebon thistle
for 400$ i would expect my ship to be maxxed out lol and yes my car in cheaper per month then it is to buy 1 tier for a ship in the game
and that 400$ its not for tier 8 its just to buy 3 items for tier 5 increase
i dont want to know how much tier 6, 7, and 8 would cost , id most likely have to sell my house to afford it
hallow pumice
Lol, scopely is soooooo expecting us to all be rich people who don't have anyone/anything to spend money on
ebon thistle
yep ..they expecting the F2P to quit while they milk all the whales till the servers get shut down
cant wait for congress to pass the microtransaction bill will shut down all these games
gentle goblet
@storm hornet I actually stopped mining 1.5 weeks ago, the events give a lot of UC and I have over 150K raw of each so I just refine in single batches for now
tame sphinx
The daily rewards are the reason to mine - not whatever scraps the refinery produces. If you want UC, the daily quests give far more than the refinery ever has.
nova sierra
@storm hornet dude, you rock..
sharp axle
Im stuck at L30 with everything on station upgraded because the L30-L31 Ops upgrade requires 50 3*rare ore, can we get some guaranteed returns from the refinery, even if its just 1 rare per double refine,
I have spent quite a bit, but having to buy 7x 99.99 packs just for the rare seems slightly ridiculous
gentle goblet
@sharp axle the pack for prime protection gives like 70 or 80 rares for 20$ or so... if you have it in the shop (it's almost all the way at the end for me)
rustic phoenix
@delicate sentinel does the report button do anything? There is a player on our server who constantly uses vile language laden with abusive sexual terminology and this has been going on for weeks. Multiple players hit the report button but again he’s at it right now. Samu3lAdams
sharp axle
@gentle goblet the prime protection pack was bought and USED to do the prime protections.....you can only get it once
gentle goblet
well I get the prime hull one again even though I bought it in the past
sharp axle
have you researched prime hulls tho?
gentle goblet
yes
sharp axle
well i've never seen anything i've bought that was for these specific researchs come up again, and tbh i dont think they would be intended to keep appearing expecially as some of them do indeed have lots of rares
or perhaps i just outpriced myself and only see the 99.99 packs
hushed swift
@rustic phoenix Im going to pm you
gentle goblet
dunno, just saying it's worth having a look again 😃
autumn rock
Why is the bank inside station only available at level 50? It should be made available earlier to help safeguard resources.
sharp axle
because if you made it earlier, people would use it and not get raided for so many resources and end up spending less to recover
after all, why you think the packs do not contain ONLY tokens anyway
its to make you a target
loud meteor
@storm hornet nice statistics above. It’s a suggestion, can you make it based on each category such as crys, ore, gas. I believe rates for unc/rare ore > gas > crys (deadly rare)
azure sphinx
I sent BOTH of my ships on a mine. One lands, one was ONE system away from arriving and few seconds later, the ship is HOME.
@Emily.S#0477, @delicate sentinel , ...that is messed up. This now happens every time after last update.
And why does ECS move across the system (within) like a snail.
storm hornet
@loud meteor the stats are kept separately based on rss type. I aggregated them for ease of reporting. I'll post them later.
loud meteor
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azure sphinx
Even if its unavailable, it would be great to know how much resources I have remaining
Instead of waiting 9 hours to find out! 😒
dawn nexus
@azure sphinx goto your Materials inventory shows you there...
sturdy edge
@storm hornet very nicely done with your statistics. It comfirms what Ivwas experiencing over the last week. At lvl 24 the 3* UC (especially gas at the moment) is a real problem e.g. bottleneck which takes the fun completely out of the gamr
frank stag
Sounds like a programmed obstacle...
storm hornet
@loud meteor Here are the breakdowns by resource type. As you can see when you get to many samples it's basically the same regardless of the resource type. That people think it makes a difference is just because of the nature of RNG and small numbers.
Keep in mind there are 3x more samples in the grand totals one (the aggregate of all resource types), so those numbers are more accurate than these.
That being said, they're all still in the same neighborhood.
gentle goblet
@storm hornet thanks, while the grand totals are similar there are differences on a per level basis (take lvl34 as an example where you get twice more ore)
storm hornet
Level 34 is not a good example, there are only 14 samples taken
gentle goblet
I know :)
storm hornet
So you can't look at that and think it's representative of the actual 34 experience
gentle goblet
But it's there nonetheless, and it does match my "feeling" about it for the lower 20s
storm hornet
The larger the number of samples, the more accurate the numbers are. When there are only a few samples the numbers are random.
It does seem that in general there are slighly more resources as levels increase.
However there are orders of magnitude more REQUIRED for progression at higher levels.
So in reality there are far fewer granted than needed at higher levels.
gentle goblet
Anyway the bigger problem is not the RNG but rather that the base numbers don't increase nearly enough for the higher levels
storm hornet
Well a 34% screw you for clicking the button you get ZERO result even at level 36 is a big problem IMO.
gentle goblet
Lvl26 I can get 3/5/11 UCs, vs. 3/4/10 at 24-25
storm hornet
Agree the base chances need to be bumped WAY UP
There is zero reason for anyone to do any 3* mining/refining with these rates
azure sphinx
Why the HELL is my ship warping when all I did was locate her outside the mine ?!??!! Does this happen to anyone else? 😞
storm hornet
@azure sphinx I've noticed that sometimes I warp ship A to a system. It waits 10 minutes and tells me it has arrived. I then locate ship A and try to move it to a different point in the same system. The 10 minute warp starts over again.
It's super annoying.
flat notch
Reporting another glitch I can't recall my ship it's trying to warp somewhere and the count down is froze. WTF
azure sphinx
https://scopely.com/about/
@storm hornet that is insane. It is very annoying. It started after this last update they did.
I don't know who nominated scopely for being innovative. I wonder if they know anything about user experience they are having.
They are failing greatly at getting things fixed.
The only reason why I am staying is because of some great people I connected with. Other than that, at the moment, this game does not deserve a penny.
But when they make it solid, I will happily give 50gbp, maybe.
@dire perch well done at publishing this. I hope more people do it. So that they start believing. The mental issues of some people is unreal. They have difficulty coping in real life, so they come online to harass and abuse. It is unbelievable.
echo siren
@dire perch that screenshot was removed after the player that posted it and the player involved both reconciled in the GC of the server they’re on.
dire perch
@echo siren I saw he said he was sorry.Big deal ..He is sorry because everyone in server got after him. He should be banned from the game.There is no room for that type of hate.What he said was disgusting.
echo siren
I didn’t say it wasn’t disgusting @dire perch I said they reconciled. Max left the game shortly after.
hushed swift
@dire perch I have escalated that message, and removed it from here as children play this game. Thankyou for the pm. 😊
azure sphinx
@hushed swift to be honest with you, you should have left it on. That is exactly why-because of children. So they can see clearly and straightforward what is not tolerated. With being deleted...we are back at square one. As if nothing happened. ccc...
hushed swift
I for one do not want children reading that rubbish and Im sure the other mods and Panic would agree. Its for the Support to sort out. Things need to change so that people who act this way in games are banned. We are definitely not back at square one as the devs are aware.
Feel free to tag a CM though.
nova sierra
Yeah I do the same when messages are too offensive; it's saved on the internal escalation and removed from public channels.
No worries, it happened and will have consequences.
Children rarely do as told anyhow and have to experience things first hand to understand the severity of their actions. 😅
azure sphinx
I don't want them reading any more than you do but sometimes you have to make a clear example and stick it in front of their face with a strict warning so they remember. That is how they learn, and fairly quick I might say. Better than most adults sometimes, once they get "slapped". If Phoenix didnt point it out, this Max dude would still be spreading his hatred attitude. Exposing is the solution. With that being said, developers seem to have a very slow awareness. I reported several players with their awful mouth and all I got was-we cant tell you what we did and who the player is. I already knew who the players are. I just wanted to know have you taken any action. Oh, actually i remember one from support telling me they have no counter actions designed against bullies and harassment.
And what a surprise...those players are still actively playing.
So, I would say, they need to get a move on. Because some just don't stop until they end up here-on this page.
I don't know who or what CM is but feel free to tag him or screenshot my message. This stuff is sometimes confusing to me. I just want to play the game with others who appreciate the actual game and not senseless killing sprees cause they are bored.
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nova sierra
I can help out with that. <@&509690795536941056>
Let's agree to disagree on what's considered best practice since we simply have our instructions as mods.
These things are not taken lightly, I assure you and we're both on it to ensure it gets the attention it deserves internally.
storm hornet
FWIW our server is pretty aggressive about combatting hate speech, racism, sexism and other shitisms.
We have server wide KOS lists and we publicly post SS of chats like was posted here.
It's not 100% effective, some people just don't learn, or don't care.
But it is definitely beneficial. Often times as soon as the offending player learns that the server doesn't like that behavior and there are real consequences for trolling, they apologize and stop.
When they do we give them a second chance to see if their behavior really changes -- and so far every time (I think) it has changed for the better.
It would be nice if the game had some sort of policing mechanism like this so the players didn't have to be the ones to do it.
craggy egret
Unfortunately the only policing system in place is an extremely poor censorship. Sometimes it's hard to hold a real conversation because normal words are censored out, likely due to foreign language differences (common words in english may be insults in other languages.) The censorship is almost universally riduculed and despised. It seems a large number of mobile games use this same ridiculous censorship algorithm and it's just sad.
I actually prefer the players doing their own policing rather than having to deal with stupid things like poor text censorship.
timid shale
Can someone explain this logic to me. I can’t hit a Level 18 player (I’m @ 26). But this is okay. I have 10% of his strength???????
storm hornet
IMO all levels should be able to kill ALL surveyors regardless of level
It's super annoying seeing low level people on a mine that you need, and having to call in a lower level buddy to clear the node.
Not just surveyors. If someone is mining in a warship, there should be no minimum level there either.
Nodes should be PVP areas without regard to level or strength
Bases, I agree having some restrictions keeping the uber high levels from griefing the lower levels is useful.
languid heart
A kind of overkill, use a 1mil enterprise to kill a 100k horizon, guy probably needs to compensate for something 🤔😉😂
azure sphinx
And are Scopely developers and management working on implementing any logic into conversion ratio for resources <@&509690795536941056> ? raw versus converted common and uncommon resources? Because right now I don't see any logic whatosever. And every game I played so far has some kind of ratio.
gentle goblet
the numbers you can get show up in the refinery, then it's pretty much an RNG which of the possibilities you get
keen bobcat
@azure sphinx I've had no uncommon for a week doing 2 batches each twice a day gets me 18 common each time
azure sphinx
@keen bobcat hm, crazy! That is what I am talking about. We mine like madmen and get random returns. There is no logical ratio. I wouldnt care if it was 100:1 or 500:1 or whatever, just something. And not some random crap. I have had common returns for weeks, with very few uncommon return. And what I need is lots of uncommon. Shocking.
@gentle goblet yea, thats what bothers people. Possibility. Which can mean you possibly get 0 or possibly 40. In the meanwhile you deal with fighting over mines, bullies, raids, senseless killing crap... There is a huge lack of consistency here-with mining.
This is not like Star Trek we all know, at all. Just saying.
gentle goblet
@azure sphinx yeah I pretty much stopped mining for the last 1.5 week as the events just gives much better UC rewards 😄
going through my 150K stack of raw materials one batch at a time
vale falcon
Please for the love of good move the event update notification somewhere else away from buttons, chat! It's so frustrating
torn wadi
@timid shale @languid heart i think the lesson here is the little dude shouldnt piss off the guy with 1 million enterprise
He probably killed dudes miner with a tiny kumi and thought it was funny af, then cries about this
see it all the time
languid heart
Probely you right, or big enterprise guy was running on killing spree because of pd ranking
torn wadi
could be, where i come from the guys with the biggest ships are the most benign, they just want to play their game and do faction stuff. But they dont take kindly to little miners snipers killing their stuff.
Top 3 Power are not even in top 10 PD.
But little guys like to run around barely killing miners with their strongest ship, then cry when their alliance gets burned to the ground
languid heart
This things escalate very easy, one miners gets killed that guy kill other because of same alli tag and the wheels of violence going round and round
torn wadi
yeah, its what makes it fun.
lunar crown
So since notification do not work at all, neither do sheilds, and apparently I got magically attacked, as my station hull was already fully cracked in the first attack.... is someone going to give me back the millions in rss that I lost? Or should I just vow to never spend a penny as it's too buggy to trust that it wont be stolen from me the moment I actually purchase it?
torn wadi
no one will give you back rss, scopely stopped doing that.
lunar crown
... ya... and they want me to spend money on buying some? Good luck with that! I'm actually surprised it doesn't run afoul of theft laws, that you can purchase something, and someone can immediately steal it from you! Looks like digital theft has not caught up with the law yet?!?
torn wadi
well i mean theft is a large part of the game
red path
hallow pumice
Remember as a free to play, I lose resources, but for pay to win, you lose money
burnt sable
Can yous at least wait on sending these push messages until 6:00 am, and not 5:50 am please?
azure sphinx
#⭐-official-announcements is a clear answer we don't care what MUST be fixed. We will improve what we want to improve and don't a rats as about your feedback. Ccc... My ships still travels double to triple time to the mine for me @delicate sentinel . Arrives to the kine and lands home 🤣😂. Not to mention everything else that ppl point out that must be improved.
dense canyon
@azure sphinx that's obvious they don't care, it was when they updated the rss icons. Also obvious it's only manipulative talks how much they care, only excuses why they can't do it and how much they want to, lol. They need cool looking game, that's what sells, like packaging of store items. The game gets more and more expensive as you progress, it's unsustainable game design for longetivity. Without progress there are only events the game can offer.
hollow vapor
by the time it comes out it will have been a month between updates and that very poor attempt is the best they can do
neat jolt
Hey scopely when we said we wanted the dead mining nodes fixed that meant we wanted them to work not remove them. How will removing them help them work. ?
humble heath
maybe they are removed for maintenance
maiden cliff
Can the developers please raise the uncommon drop rate. It takes weeks to upgrade a ship.... with constant farming and refinery
nova sierra
@maiden cliff Keep your eye on for events. They often reward you with some. Especially unique events like the Seperatists one not too long ago.
maiden cliff
yeah, but how often are they? i managed to upgrde 1 ship lst event. 2 more to go... takes weeks literally
i need 553 uncommon ore, i get 5-20 per day...
calm flare
There is no way that I can see to tie how much power will be increased by completing research and buildings. This makes it impossible to tell if completing something will grant the power you need to complete a milestone in the dailies or the events.
keen bobcat
@maiden cliffwish I got 5 per day I have my had any uncommon from the refinery for 2 weeks
left flume
Hi guys, is possible change server?
heavy star
Not yet
rustic sigil
Why are the new upcoming updates focused on the store when there are still, unfixed game breaking bugs. This game has been bugged since day one. Fix them, never mind updating Ng the UI of the store 🙄
azure sphinx
@nova sierra @maiden cliff ...or ZERO per day.
rough dagger
@Panic you realize the 30th of may was 5 days ago right?
maiden cliff
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paper urchin
I'm not spending any more money!
languid heart
Don't say that loud, they scopely close your account for that 😜
paper urchin
LoL, they should make it where I shouldn't have to unless there's something special I want. Either I pay to play or get pissed and leave 🤷🏻♂️
languid heart
I didn't pay a cent (lv26, 263k ship)you just need patience and a good alliance
languid heart
If you want progress faster then pay, only scopely is so greedy on this that even 300 per month don't really bring you forward
wicked jetty
@azure sphinx I'm sorry but alliance controls and visibility are a highly requested (and needed) improvement to alliance management
torn wadi
I would disagree, fix the bugs. If youre playing youre seeing what your alliance peeps are doing
analog torrent
I don’t understand why you implement new features, instead on focusing on fixing bugs 😞
Major bugs like lack of notifications when base is attacked should have high priority. Also there is a very low maturity from my point of view in development process, when you implement new bugs and reintroduce old once every time you release updates
ornate topaz
@delicate sentinel Ok so everyone agrees that the refinery is not yielding enough refined resources. My question and suggestion is why can’t the duration of cool down be reduced as the level of the refinery is increased with the level of the building and the level of the user. A small percentage like 10 percent when above level 20 and stopping at a certain maximum time example 3 or 4 hours or less. Meaning at each level above level 20 the time will reduce about 5 to 10 percent of the total time from 10 hours and stop when it is at 3 hours. Giving a chance to refine more frequently and accumulate the items needed for levels that require a lot more special resources to upgrade and do research.
desert monolith
@analog torrent If you look under General Discussion about 10:15am today Panic says they are also going to be releasing a big patch the same day that should fix most of the bugs. Release notes fer the patch should be out tomorrow, these are just fer the client update. Patch should be the 11th.
Wait until after that, then we can complain about what was or was not fixed.
analog torrent
Lets hope so... Experience from releases earlier is still the same. Lack of quality in development process. It is a shame because I love the game
torn wadi
Yes, the updates have been "fixing all bugs" for a long time now
languid heart
Gajar are you new here, panic and scopely told us many times that next patch fix that or this, never happened so you really think that the new "cooler looks" not going to break more and the patches what's coming to fix the "cooler looks" even more
icy tiger
Where can i post a emk report?
nova sierra
<@&509690795536941056> it’d be nice to have a 24-48 hr break in between events
torn wadi
mining event is the break
languid heart
Exactly
nova sierra
Hardly a break. People go crazy during them
storm hornet
<@&509690795536941056> there price to upgrade faction miners is insane. As a level 36, I get 159 UC crystal per $100. It takes 4,000 UC crystal to upgrade from T5.3 to T6. At 4.4 UC/day on average from mining/refining (the entire point of upgrading this miner), that's almost 3 years of mining. This is absolute stupidity.
hallow pumice
@storm hornet pay to win at its finest
trim scroll
Level 18 station could get wipped out by a level 25? Ridiculous
carmine jay
But @storm hornet , surely you understand now that we are not meant to achieve this through the refinery? Its all about buying packs mate.
No spendy, no miney.
nova sierra
Is it really necessary to be insulted? Do i have to take that? Oy because he is three levels above me?
Can Support please do something? Or wrong channel?
@nova sierra Please submit the screenshots to in-game support via ticket.
They'll be able to act the quickest.
keen bobcat
@nova sierra you can report him in game tap the message and click report. Also do as @nova sierra says and click block on him as well so he can't message you again
nova sierra
Sorry, I dont trust the in game report Ing anymore. Told two times there about a delay bug in notifying attacks on my base. Both times i lost a lot of ressources only because i was informed too late.... NO reactions from Support. So, i don't trust the Support anymore.
Anyway i blocked him...
Also anyway : i invested a lot in this game... Loosing ressources.. OK. No reaction from Support : inacceptable.
So probably i will leave the game anyway... If no Action from Support within next 24 hours...
But : Thanks for your reactions here. It has brought back a little trust.
sage sun
The way the game support is sucks. I lost millions of resources because I just did not get any attack warning. Support said they’d look into it but I take that as a screw you. “Maybe he will calm down and forget about it or at least a buffer for us to tell him no later”. Kinda thinking is my idea that they are using. Scopely is really frustrating so I feel your pain @[geru] piet70#7842
Scopely doesn’t seem to understand the level of frustration the players have
I mean seriously, if you go and look at the reddit. It’s a bunch of people complaining about the same issues Scopely has yet to address them and, as far as I can tell, isn’t going to. Their lack of communication is disgusting. They have a discord, Reddit, and support channels where communication is at a bare minimum. So far Scopely looks like they want the game to make a quick buck and then drop it.
But, I still enjoy the game and still play because of it.
deep jasper
Is it just me or has there been a change in the amount of Latinum you get in the 10 minutes and 4 hour daily awards
sick juniper
Totally frustrated with lack of support. I have had a frozen ship for over 5 days without even an acknowledgement from support other than the auto reply message. Totally unprofessional, ridiculous really, good thing I didn’t blow all the money o. A D4 like I was planning.
strong shard
All for trashing scopely customer service, as it is atrocious and offensive in their canned copy paste responses about remaining patient, but on to more constructive feedback... There needs to be improved methods of obtaining ship parts and common 3* resources. Yes, uncommon is a huge barrier as well and a whole other problem, but I've blown through thousands of lat just buying additional ship parts and common minerals trying to keep up with ship upgrades and research as well. Its time they add a "break down" feature where you can salvage old ships for common goods.
rough dagger
Repair timers at all levels are still too damn high. Watching ships repair is the antithesis of fun. No ship, no matter the level should take more than 1 hour to repair
Also please allow repairs at all available docks simultaneously
gentle goblet
so I'm not saying I wouldn't like shorter repair times, but where are your speedups?
fallen epoch
Wish you guys would actually fix this game instead of making it worse by adding more content. Fix what you have then worry about adding things to the game.
indigo badge
Why dont station peace shields prevent you from being attacked? Is that the point?
wicked jetty
@indigo badge they prevent your station from being attacked
indigo badge
Then why did my station get attacked while I had shields up
unreal aspen
Possible hackers.
strong shard
Not hackers, buggy game
nova sierra
As the repair times have now been 'normalised' and the backlash isn't great. If there isn't any intention on changing these and lowering now kahn repairs have gone. How about allowing your dry docks to simutanesouly repair? It makes very little sense from an emersive perspective that ya flashy space station has multiple dry docks yet your lazy engineers will only work on one ship at a time. I think if the repair times are staying the same the ability to have your ships all repairing at once after being attacked etc. Would seriously improve playability 👍
strong shard
I wouldn't say repair times have been fixed, as I'll start a repair that has a time of 2 hours 37 minutes, then once repair actually starts it jumps to 2 hours 42 minutes, but I haven't seen anyone from Scopely respond to anyone today so I'll just continue talking to a wall
storm hornet
@strong shard they don't ever respond so don't hold your breath. Re the repair times I believe they confirmed it's working as intended and there is a bug in the client that miscalculates the repair time. The actual time it takes to repair is what they want so you have to buy speedups.
carmine jay
Repair times suck, but the cost changes were very much needed. My hope is that over time, the time comes down too
wicked jetty
I think being able to do multiple repairs at once would be a good compromise
wicked jetty
@dense canyon have you considered just being respectful instead of whatever you just vomited out?
dense canyon
@wicked jetty and have you? funny you are not respectful mentioning asperger's tantrum. Kinda hypocritical
wicked jetty
Good point! Did not realize the origin of that word. Updated ;)
carmine jay
Google says “retard” is an offensive term, just FYI.
https://g.co/kgs/58wMuz
“As a noun, it is considered a dated, offensive and pejorative term when used to refer to a person who has a mental disability”
dense canyon
Of course it is offensive, but I would call for banning when someone threatens to kill your family, find you, etc. That is the severity that should be banned. IMHO.
Prosecution for "nothing" and censorship of human emotion is a slippery slope.
rough dagger
Oh look another day of , I looked away for 2 seconds and have to wait for hours for my ship to repair. SO NOT FUN
nova sierra
Hi there ... since Lvl 21 ( I'm actually Lvl 22) I can't Mining 3 * Ressorces on Following Galaxies : Willenia, Tejat, Nabok, Davidul, Niawillen, Afritalis, Voss and Priya. Why because all Hi Leveller 24 - 29 are Mining there. And last but not least there are many Lvl 14 Players there and they are mining too, but because of the Level Different no one can attack these Players. That makes me very angry !!!
junior pelican
I’m currently lvl 26 and have 72/90 blueprints for the NS are there going to be events that allow those of us that have lvl’d past the Rare ships a chance to finish collecting the Blueprints, even though we don’t really need them it would be nice to collect the ships
brittle quarry
@delicate sentinel ... about the update on faction missions: what with the people who already done many missions but didn’t get rewarded as much? Shouldn’t get something too? And about missions: how about making them more and archivable? Just got one where I should donate 45M to a group. I mean seriously?
45M Tritanium
indigo ingot
Would there be any retroactive award of faction tokens from previously completed missions after the patch increase?
rotund tangle
@delicate sentinel why change the BB mining rates, it already is pretty ridiculous on 30K/50K nodes with fully level BB and Augment crew. The problem really is it's protected capacity as it's a 10-15 Min warp to and from those locations and you still have to contend with hostiles. All you're doing now is making it so I fill up faster and have to spend more time warping... I'm not sure how this solves anything. To impove it try increasing the warp speed on the BB and/or providing it an expanded protected capacity for data resources specifically.
pale wyvern
It would be a good idea if they made all the generators produce around the same amount, my parasteel is just over 3k the tritanium isn't even at 500 all are leveled the same.
south scaffold
It also would be nice to have data mining part of the mining events, would spread out people more. During the updates, can you please fix the missions/daily rewards indicator number: 1- so you can hide it, 2- so that any residual numbers from previous day uncollected go away- the “push notification” stays up with no way to wipe it out if you missed a faction daily collect or something
supple lintel
Mining is so dull.
astral shoal
@delicate sentinel Any chance we can have the faction quests reset so those of us that have completed them can get some of the new and improved rewards?
merry furnace
@delicate sentinel @weak marten The combining of the crates into one in the refinery is a crock
The refined rates are horrible and seem less than before. I feel like we are getting robbed and there is no way to prove it. I don't like the new system at all.
sage sun
Why is Ummm censored
craggy egret
probably because it's an insult in some other language
ornate hedge
Well this is depressing! Needs 4* rare gas. I can't refine it and I can't buy it. 😱😢😭
craggy egret
Can we please get a cleanup of the entire galaxy so that the systems will spawn properly leveled hostiles again? everything is still a mess from the faction hunt and everyone is too drained to do anything about it which is making dailies even tougher.
nova sierra
@strong shard @storm hornet We have asked people to report that through screenshots with a ticket to support, but take a look at it after the update on Tuesday, the 11th and see what happens. My repair times were correct today.
errr
there we go
swift hemlock
33k a day decoded. A little steep isn't it. I also have dailies to finish and a job in RL. 33k decoded a day added on is a little excessive.
@craggy egret I'd like to go to a lvl # system and actually find hostiles that lvl. Try to find a lot of lvl 28 roms. LoL
nova sierra
I struggle with that as well
wicked jetty
teir your botanys, goes quick on deeper nodes
radiant sail
Ferengi87 unfair player
nova sierra
Is this a joke? In a single mission it asks for 7.5mil trit AND 1.5mil raw g3 ore all for 145 rom credits and 11k officer xp.... <@&509690795536941056> I sincerely hope this is one of the missions being addressed in next patch.
hushed swift
@nova sierra We hope so too! All those missions are noodles with the current mining rates/sizes
nova sierra
Not to mention bonus refining sucking up any reserves we may have built up
More aggravated by 2 ridiculous donations in one mission though
hushed swift
I let those missions sit cos no way in fluff am I giving up that much stuff for a bribe or otherwise
nova sierra
We'll see how they buff the rewards on the 11th...until then it's a hard pass from me
digital oar
Any news on Gladius buff? It should not be loosing to same power Saladin. It’s also still weaker in power at same tier as Intrepid and B’rel.
still mason
Hi, scopely once again told me they can't refund my money, nor compensate me. #ImOut #Nopely can #GetPhuct....
boreal gyro
Crazy requirement jump. Made to make me spend more money to be able to complete my Federation dailies.
primal lake
On our server, grief players hitting empty miners repeatedly on 3* nodes are causing people to quit in droves. Please put a timer on grief players who are simply hitting empty miners on nodes.
frank adder
or better miners have a shield while under cargo 😄 and some grace period after it goes over
vanishing chat history is annoying... can't even see with whom I talked few hours ago
and battle log filled with hostile attacks also is silly...
and on scan screen how can I tell who is the ship captain? when I manage it, it's all clear one on the left... middle captain and another one on the right
so which is captain on enemy's ship? the one one the left or right?
nova sierra
@nova sierra i need to give 45 million tritanium for a klingon mission... That 1,5 million raw ore is actually doable (i did it)
granite torrent
@delicate sentinel nobody likes mining event, especially not 2 mining events in one weekend
nova sierra
Hi, my names Nobody and I love mining events. More please @delicate sentinel
digital oar
I’m not even mining
Forget it
On another note. @delicate sentinel Can we please get a in game friends list?
median grove
@solemn coral Please Put a PVP toggle in game like in WOW
faint gate
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> The game is essentially a rat race to the top. I’m ok with that in principal. But once you get to the top then what? And what happens if the top coalesce into a single all powerful alliance? In WoW we would always say that while you could be Uber geared, RNG was the great equalizer as RNG does not care if you are #1 or last place. What RNG like controls are in place to prevent top alliances and their players from pushing everyone else around on the server or dictating policy? Seems like there should be a way for alliances to pool their resources or some way to affect some type of RNG into the game. Otherwise pay to play will always have a combat advantage over free to play when outside of a free to plays shielded station. Unless your holding back end game content to allow other players to catch up. Just curious because if I was at end game, apart from running amuck through the galaxy what content do end game players have to focus on? Cause it seems to me that they are just focused on making lower level players mining lives a miserable experience.
sick moon
2 bill dil for completing a daily 😂😂 that’s gold haha
true barn
Just annoyed at the daily goal completion notification that doesn’t go away for several days
distant kraken
@surreal condor Irl death threats were made in GC
surreal condor
@distant kraken - please PM me screenshots and player ID (so we know what server) or server number.
Also submit a ticket.
craggy egret
what are the odds that the service team is in Asia and using a translator and that's why the joke wasn't picked up on?
I'm guessing they didn't even notice what the issue in your screenshot was.
tame sphinx
If they are going to demand bribes like that - I should get the option to pay to have the guy assassinated instead. Does anyone think the Tal Shiar would put up with that junk for a moment?
If they really wanted to make it fun, give me the option to make it look like an "accident" or to decorate the town square with the body. These are Romulans, for the love of Gene - they are supposed to be cruel.
fast gulch
Bend over and spell run.@ornate hedge
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> lower the costs of everything or set a decent limit on cost before you price yourself out of customers.
tame sphinx
I know I keep saying this - but repair times being the love child of a rabid squirrel and an obese porcupine means I just spent the past hour nuking envoys with my faction ship because that is the only way I wouldn't take damage while I wait for another ship to repair.
I'm sure the poor fools who can't yet field a Horizon just love that.
rough dagger
Yup repair times are still way too high
summer cave
doesnt matter tho, as long as the money guys and execs get their bonuses, they will run the game into the ground and not give a shit
server im on is dying, i can find at least a couple g3 nodes open at any time i glance around, day or night. impossible to find any bases to raid, either 100k tri or its a 30+ with 50m tri
hallow pumice
@craggy egretthey're Indian text support in topeka kansas
bold sentinel
Nn @craggy egret they are bots, not Indian. Asians don't need translators generally, they speak good English
azure sphinx
@delicate sentinel so mines are fixed now yea? And ship travel?
wheat wigeon
Hi, anyone know where I can report inappropriate alliance names?
edgy tiger
The refinery is a sodding joke, how the hell are you meant to build anything with the sodding material requirements if the refinery never actually drops them? I know you guys want to gouge us for every penny we have, but come on actually give us something for our time and money invested in this game. Actually start making the refinery making more than common all the time (4 days and counting for anything more than common anything), and how about production rates for trit etc that actually reflect the amounts required rather than the dribble they actually produce?