#💬-general-feedback | Star Trek Fleet Command | Page 152

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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It has poor mitigation

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and hull

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But they jacked the power via shields/weapons.

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Problem weapons don't matter if you can't go the rounds or you can't grind since hull always takes a hit.

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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I also believe the problem is people expecting it to be great at tier 4 against their exisitng t5/6 kumaris.

That is unrealistic. Level up the mayflower to same level and it will outperform.

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@potent cipher question... is there any plan to bring back the NS event? Couldn’t afford one last time, and I’m noticing that not having one is becoming a MAJOR disadvantage in almost every aspect of the game...

potent cipher Feb 28, 2019, 5:56 PM

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there is, very imminently so 😉

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Well I may just have to reduce my level of hate for the game devs... 😜

gentle ore Feb 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Hey @potent cipher will there be a possibilty to get, paying or not, ships like the Jelly? I don't need it anymore at my level, but I genuinely love the aesthetic

tawny thunder Feb 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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NS event please

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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monobrow, if crypto takes over, finances will go down the drain faster then with a crash at wall street

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@gentle ore, the jelly event just finished, I expect it to be back around the end of this month (Dominion event < level 18)

robust bramble Feb 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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@potent cipher it’s less than 24 hrs to the new event and there’s a coming soon as but no info. Why

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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@robust bramble I think they wanna keep you in suspense a little longer, and they are probably still working on the details

robust bramble Feb 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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@solemn coral they wanna make so much money off this game, news flash details ahead of time would have people spending more.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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@robust bramble and seeing you ask in here tells me that they succeeded 😃

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@robust bramble nothing is for free on this planet, even breathing costs money in the form of enviromental tax

robust bramble Feb 28, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I don’t even know why I ask anymore, nothing gets answered, support is a joke.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I am just a user, like you

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otherwise you'd see a different color on my text

robust bramble Feb 28, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I know dude venting out loud

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:34 PM

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it's in the works

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to improve things, doing my best to get some changes accomplished

potent cipher Feb 28, 2019, 6:35 PM

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and acknowledged ✅

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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jb kinda hooked me up with the support lead, and I think I will have a bunch of conversations with her

robust bramble Feb 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I really like what this game could be, but let’s face it. Star Wars rise to power comes out in March. EA is going to take a lot of players from scopley. If they don’t turn a new leaf

potent cipher Feb 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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actually our tech looked at your DB earlier on and found it pretty useful, to cross check with their own data, retrieve some repro steps and so forth! doing good here mate thanks!

dusty violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Want to get this out there, so I'll leave it here so maybe it gets added to the conversation at some point: Uncommon mats are one of the most contentious parts of progressing. Rather than increasing costs providing additional batches, has the team considered higher costs guaranteeing uncommon materials? The first batch is random, the 'double batch' option guarantees uncommon, and the 'triple batch' guarantees uncommon with a chance of rare.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 6:44 PM

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@potent cipher I know, georgie said so 😃

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@potent cipher wanna read it ? 😃

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@potent cipher Since you probably can access tickets, tagged as 20190227150706432-5cc31cf2727f0a1

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Ive mentioned it before @dusty violet
They already have x3 per individual refine on founders, so that is most likely to come next.

dusty violet Feb 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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What do you mean by x3 per individual? As in you can buy up to three batches per type (which is currently how it is) or you get x3 the returns on the founder compared to normal?

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Are you on founders?

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On release we get one refine per type every 10 hours. 6 overall in total oer 24 hours. Founders get three per type, 18 in 24 hours, x3 release rate

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Apparently some release servers have it too, but thats hearsay

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Those who only get 1 per type are screwed atm tho

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No way to upgrade unless u spend thousdands

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:00 PM

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@dusty violet founder servers/beta servers have an accelerated setting for some stuff, when we click refinery, we see only one button for each resource type, beta players see 3 for each

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lol @ @teal cloak nice nick 😉

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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You aren't referring to batch size just that they can refine 3 each time

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Scopily founder server has only 1 refine 😦

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:02 PM

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yes

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@teal cloak I am sure to have seen a screenshot showing 3 times the amount of buttons 😉

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Yes

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:03 PM

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he thought it was a bug 😛

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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They have 3 lots of buttons per resource, i.e 3x Crystal, 3x Gas etc.

Or did

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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game gave me officermaillot so i changed it 😉

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Unless this changed, but they have been playing a lot longer and are more advanced

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:04 PM

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yes digit founders has 3

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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so you are crazy like me and even from the same cheesy country ? 😛

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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But all im asking for is something offical that recognises this and says ours will come later, rather than the fuck all we get right now

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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no beer country 😃

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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heineken ain't beer, sorry

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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oh right same then lol

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Sparkling water with a wee bit of alcohol in it.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:06 PM

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if you drink a bottle of amstel, and piss in the bottle, you get heineken

teal cloak Feb 28, 2019, 7:06 PM

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tought you said cheese country lol

robust saffron Feb 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I am looking at store packages for station, ship and research packages seams to be made for all levels, instead of level appropriate. I am up high enough now, that I do not see a need for 2 star items in the packages, could use more 3 star, especially your $99 packages is not of value since the # of 3 star items is enough build 1 item now. I know you could do it, after all you make specially packages for certain research item there is now way we could get until much higher level like your 4* rare uncommon refined stuff? Heck it might even cause players to buy more if they were more situation for the player level instead of one that half the stuff is useless to the level you are at.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

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@teal cloak just like I figured out your origin based on your nick, you could have guessed the same on mine 😛

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I think all players would agree that there is a need for rebalance on all aspects

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attackability, economy, events and sales

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however, as long as enough players are 'fine' with it, spending up to thousands of bucks, it will not change soon

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they will, once they see a steady drop of income perhaps, but at the current rate, thats going to take quite some time

dusty violet Feb 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@carmine jay Definitely not on a founder server, but I've got 3 options: 1 batch for a standard cost, 2 batches for about 5x the cost, and 3 batches for much higher cost. No matter which option you choose, it triggers the cooldown.

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:12 PM

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and this is just one of many games scopely runs

robust saffron Feb 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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yup, like when you spend $100 bucks on a package, make the resources all in tokens, giving big dump and a few in tokens, means you become prey or you have to rush thru your upgrades and stay under shield the entire time you are over limit

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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you forget the target group of this game

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this game ain't intended for kids, despite the lack of presence of nudity

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sure, anyone can play it, but the theme is targeted at older people, who grew up with gene roddenberry's stuff

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ppl who have seen Star Trek Enterprise (The originals) live on tv when they got aired

robust saffron Feb 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I dont mind spending money, but I wont be wasteful, at level now that I will just grind out the 3 * items since even when you buy the $100 package you can only upgrade 1 ship compenent?, naw, will save it until they get smart

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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same here

dusty violet Feb 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Well I don't know about that. It heavily emphasizes the new movies, which are something teens and early 20's would definitely have seen.

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I think it speaks to multiple generations of fans.

robust saffron Feb 28, 2019, 7:19 PM

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young or old, still Trekies

solemn coral Feb 28, 2019, 7:20 PM

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sure, we all are gratefull to Gene's work, the guy that started the mobile revolution 😉

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:21 PM

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@dusty violet Are you on the same server as @nova sierra ? Phil, u still have 3 refiners per type, right?

dusty violet Feb 28, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Nope, Phil's server is miles ahead of mine. I didn't start playing until November at release, and this is my second server. To connect with a friend, we both had to re-roll accounts about two-weeks in.

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Ah right, but then u arent on founders?

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Oh sry, my bad, i misread

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And yes, my point is founders get the latest / greatest refining. Why would they do something different for anyone else? We will get that once the money stops rolling in from release

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@robust saffron Some of that has to do with level progression and pack availability. For instance the packs available for you are likely nerfed relative to my level. I think it would smart if they disallowed component upgrades based on level until you unlock appropriate pack.

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E.g. I get 10 rare offering and lower levels can far far less

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It think they helped that a little but putting guards on shipyards. But components on ships would be good as well.

frigid swan Feb 28, 2019, 7:50 PM

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They need a underdog buff for everyone outside the top 20 ! To many players just migrate to one super alliance it’s lame

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Our alliance was no2 for a long time on our server. It looks like we will soon be #1. It can be done. Just gotta work together.

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Well, cream rises to the top.

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People want to be part of the best

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Are you proposing a luxury tax?!?!

knotty crater Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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@nova sierra packs do change to offer more / better items, but all of them contain a countless number of useless items you no longer need once you hit lvl 20.

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I agree with that.

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But what if you want to fill your shipyard with loads of shitty ships?

knotty crater Feb 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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When you have to buy 2-3 packs just to upgrade one component on a ship for the 3* rss requirements and they give you 6-800 of the 2* you no longer use it's ridiculous

nova sierra Feb 28, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Well, its needed because it is packing and otherwise the 3* gets damaged.

knotty crater Feb 28, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Lol .. the only thing obvious is they are sure willing to take our money but won't use it to fix what's broke.

earnest plover Feb 28, 2019, 10:19 PM

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What a fraud...

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calm root Feb 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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lol

carmine jay Feb 28, 2019, 10:55 PM

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If I ever meet Barot IRL he’s getting a beating.

bitter wagon Mar 1, 2019, 12:06 AM

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@potent cipher it would be wonderful if battle reports were time-stamped.

charred ravine Mar 1, 2019, 12:56 AM

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This game has pissed me off, today I realised that i was about to purchase resources (trit) but not leap on progression(bp, uncommons, etc) like in the past but for the first time to be able to actually repair and play. WTF.

ivory ember Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 AM

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There is something seriously wrong with the pvp pairing

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lilac saffron Mar 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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these are the pvp brackets
Player Level: Level you can hit in PVP
13 and Under: ± 3
14: 11 - 17
15: 12 - 19
16: 13 - 21
17: 14 - 23
18: 15 - 25
19: 15 - 27
20: 16 - 29
21: 16 - 31
22: 17 - 33
23: 17 - 35
24: 18 - 37
25: 18 - 39
26: 19 - 41
27: 19 - 43
28: 20 - 45
29: 20 - 47
30: 21 - 49
31: 21 - 51
32: 22 - 53
33: 22 - 55
34: 23 - 57
35: 23 - 59
36: 24 - 61
credit to the hivemind and all contributors 😄

calm root Mar 1, 2019, 5:09 AM

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31 can be hit by 50??? Yikes

ivory ember Mar 1, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Ya, makes sense.. NOT! Take that lv26 can get those event ships and the lv19 cant even get a kehra. It is BS pairing logic at it’s finest!

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 5:23 AM

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@potent cipher this is stupid. No way to mine 1.5M g3 ore, and why would I for 3800 faction. A lot of these missions need re-working for the current mining abilities of players

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calm root Mar 1, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Lol that's nuts

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I've mined 4.5 million total resources in like 3 months, but that's a combination of everything let alone one type and g3

calm root Mar 1, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Only 4 more days toll Ops goes to 22! (Down from 6 days)

I'm guessing 24 is gonna take 10 days at this rate haha

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Though I would be okay with long building times but less expensive buildings

split mason Mar 1, 2019, 9:02 AM

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The devs seriously need to sort out when you lose a peace shield after you land on a occupied tile... it is a silly bug.

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And costly

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 9:19 AM

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why is that a bug @split mason - if you hit an occupied tile you're attacking someone, essentially you're not at peace any more

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simple answer - Never warp to mines

split mason Mar 1, 2019, 9:22 AM

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True. But surely simply boucing off would be better?

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It's when the tile is occupied after you warp to it. But yes, i hear what youre saying @nova sierra

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 9:25 AM

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bouncing would be one idea - but that would mean you could never take a miner off a tile. So player hogs tile forever just swaps ships constantly without any fear of being hit

split mason Mar 1, 2019, 9:32 AM

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All im on about is; if tile is unoccupied when you launch, the game should remember, and upon arrival if its then occupied (during flight), you should bounce. It really isnt hard mechanics..

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Normally, if you attack an occupied tile it asks you if you want to drop shield anyway...

hot karma Mar 1, 2019, 12:14 PM

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I would recommend a hold on event updates and fix the bugs. They keep doing event updates but don’t fix the backlog of bugs. Right now there is a bubble shield issue introduced by last update + other bugs. Please fix the issues! Then when stable do an event update. Keep doing the same thing is insanity!

dusk cape Mar 1, 2019, 1:17 PM

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@hot karma what issues have you heard of/experienced? People in my alliance have had problems with being attacked overnight whilst shield is up. They contact support and get told they attacked someone in the middle of the night so their shield dropped. Obviously we have a collection of sleep raiders...

hot karma Mar 1, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Empty node showing empty... but when button mine it looks like it drops your shield

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Had same issue... argued with scopely... they keep stating I drop the shield. Nothing like arguing with your customers

nocturne silo Mar 1, 2019, 1:25 PM

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It's not a bug, if you attack an occupied node with your miner your shield drops.

hot karma Mar 1, 2019, 1:25 PM

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I know that

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My shield dropped without interaction

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And I’m just showing another buggy ui

nocturne silo Mar 1, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Buggy for sure is yes

hot karma Mar 1, 2019, 1:26 PM

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No ship showing and mine button showing... but when selecting node you get shield drop!

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Warning lol

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They need to fix bugs get this stable... each event keeps introducing bugs... regression and they keep increasing bugs. Without fixing them in a timely fashion

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Make it stable... les buggy. Then when you get the hang introduce events

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I’m getting warp bugs where I constantly need to relaunch the game

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Ship gets stuck in warp

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Basic function of game...

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Yes I have reset turn off turn on. Clear location, reinstalled etc.

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These are just a few I’m experiencing I have seen many from alliance report also bubble issues..

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And we have coalitions and they are experiencing the same/similar issues

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@dusk cape I argued with scopely support about events...showed them issues. Didn’t get reimbursed resources etc. Others in alliance and coalition got@resources back lol

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 1:52 PM

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well, to show the level of bugs, I got a report last night, that when sending a miner to an empty node, that I saw land, the following morning that I attacked a ship, a much smaller envoy, lost the battle, but my shield was still active !!

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and miner still on the node

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If you think scopely are capable of fixing the bugs, you are clearly suffering from buyers regret, that makes you feel incapable of recognising the money you have spent has been thrown away

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with each update, we are getting more bugs, that are taking longer to be resolved

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if at all

hot karma Mar 1, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I fixed the issue above regarding empty mine that was going to remove my shield by doing a clear localization and iPhone restart lol I would recommend some type of cache/force refresh in the game routine. Looks like things don’t get forced out and game state/network code gets out of sync

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Miner on his way let’s see if it bring my peace shield down

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Or attack an invisible foe

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Incorrect still bugged

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After attacking empty node still nothing happening...

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[S:468245102 X:-313 Y:-107]

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Same old

tall wind Mar 1, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I'm a Commodore in the Firefly Aliance and our Admiral is inactive, contacted the devs a couple of times to see what they can do about it and they are not very helpful saying they can not demote him. So I'm sorting things but is there things that an Admiral can do that I can't? As today got asked about how quickly does the alliance reach its daily level and don't know what that is? Thanks.

lilac saffron Mar 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Do what i did and start a new alliance. Admiral gets to change tag names and both alliance posts and enter in alliance tournaments, whenever they start.
Alliance daily? Maybe the help requests daily missions? Most of our guys gets those done by lunch time

tall wind Mar 1, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Thanks Xandes, only problem we are at level 10 and starting again isn't really an option unless it really affects the alliance not having an active Admiral, which not entering into the alliance tournaments when they start might be an issue?

valid flame Mar 1, 2019, 5:27 PM

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You know what is fun about a mining event? Acres of broken damn mines.

charred ravine Mar 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Please start rotating servers to take in new players, ours is starting to look like a battlefield memorial... graves of abandoned bases in every system

pallid peak Mar 1, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@potent cipher any special offers in the store coming this weekend?

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@potent cipher it’s kind of silly to have a mining event with all the broken asteroids we can’t mine. Every server has hundreds of astroids that look like this. You can’t mine them, and you can’t even get details on them

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People have been complaining about this issue for two months and it hasn’t been fixed

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Because they cant fix these bugs !!

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 6:04 PM

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You would think with them making hundreds of millions of dollars off of this game, they could hire talent that could fix these things

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 6:06 PM

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😂😂😂

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True, although I think scopely may struggle there as well

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Technically scopely is the publisher. Digit made the game and codes it

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Digit is in Ireland

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@queen ridge Because they are focused purely on designing events to suck cash, as quickly as possible, before the whole game crashes

calm root Mar 1, 2019, 6:10 PM

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are these mining events supposed to help QA the broken nodes? cuz theres a ton out there which makes this event even more challenging haha

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Then sacj Digit, as they are completely hopeless, but whoever is responsible for fixing bugs, they clearly dont have a clue

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and Scopely has never absconded from the responsibility of supporting the game

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Just cant do it

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 6:10 PM

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You can’t sack digit, lol. They created the game, but I have a feeling scopely is a heavy investor in it

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https://www.digitgaming.com

DIGIT Game Studios

DIGIT is Ireland's largest game developer, home to an extremly talented multi-cultural team and creators of Star Trek Fleet Command.

upper cairn Mar 1, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Ive come close to hitting apparently empty nodes, only to find the attack button appearing

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

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@potent cipher lol, let us reject chests. I'm grinding fed faction and I got -2500 fed because of rom chest.

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I made it up. Just a minor annoyance if you incidentally got points

iron grail Mar 1, 2019, 7:17 PM

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^ this. what kind of reward comes with negative aspects.

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Admittedly I'm a little cranky from farming hostiles as well and I auto translated that to 8 ships down the tube that I hit

inner plaza Mar 1, 2019, 7:20 PM

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we have some guys who hardly got their 500 rep needed for dailys with quests

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now they lost 750 and cant get back to 500 😂

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Repeating it certainly got your message across

carmine jay Mar 1, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@pallid peak they will never disclose offers coming to the store else it discourages people to spend now.

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Holidays are good, financial qtr an year ends good.

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 9:21 PM

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@carmine jay we have someone on our server that we estimated has spent 40k+. He shot up to 38 in like 2 weeeks and has tier 9 g3 ships and a bunch of tier 9 faction ships

carmine jay Mar 1, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Tier 9 Faction!!! Holy moley....

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Crazy

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Id imagine way more than 40, when u consider a single t5 kvort laser is 10k euro, lol

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U sure they are t9 faction?

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That is insane on release

pallid peak Mar 1, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I know but I actually limit myself so if I spend now they aint gettin more lol

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I do appreciate the fact that he didnt at least tell me exactly that

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 10:07 PM

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My game reset and I lost everything . Is there a way to get it back?

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 10:07 PM

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@nova sierra did you re link it to Facebook?

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Not sure

inner plaza Mar 1, 2019, 10:08 PM

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u should contact support

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Or the iOS game Center? Or the google store ?

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As long as you linked it, you can recover it

nova sierra Mar 1, 2019, 10:16 PM

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T9 factions? Uncommon Rare or Epic? A T9 Rare costs the same as a family car

upper crown Mar 1, 2019, 10:46 PM

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So i mine my ass off for crystal so i can refine 3 batch’s cost 50000 and i get a whole 5 uncommon crystal wtf i can get that mist times with 3000 batch. I think thats bs

pale willow Mar 1, 2019, 10:49 PM

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And remember the motto folks, if it doesn’t make cash, it doesn’t get fixed.

queen ridge Mar 1, 2019, 10:49 PM

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It’s like mining irl. You mine and get mostly garbage rock and minerals and you must refine (purify) it

lost sluice Mar 1, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Ya'll need to ad advertisements to a server, and get rid of pay to win on that server completely. Po fucks like me need to stand a chance. I'll deal with the ads

dawn rock Mar 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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@lost sluice
Good idea. I am extremely disciplined when it comes to micro-transactions. I've never spent a single penny on free mobile games, and I never will. This is a good alternative for players like us. Non-pay-to-win servers with advertisements, that blocks the ability to buy items using real-world-currency. Maybe even add in a feature that allows you to "farm" loot boxes; loot boxes do not have to go away entirely... it just needs to be easier to purchase them with in-game currency. Players could actually be rewarded for putting many hours into the game, by giving them the ability to earn loot boxes, rather than just waiting for them to empty their wallets... 🖖

lost sluice Mar 1, 2019, 11:38 PM

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@dawn rock Agreed. I think that would be an excellent idea, because when you don't have the money to dump into it, you can get discouraged really easily when everyone else is pulling ahead of you so fast. I understand the need to make money on a game though too, but I think this may be a good compromise.

hushed swift Mar 1, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I can add this to the list to show Jb @dawn rock for when he gets back. It is an interesting idea indeed. Not sure how they would shift models between what it is now, to what you suggest but will definitely let them know. 😊

dawn rock Mar 1, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Sounds perfect, thanks. 👍

jolly pawn Mar 2, 2019, 12:17 AM

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I think the dropping of uncommon resources needs to be more balanced.. and why should 3, 15, 50 require the same refresh time. Except for refresh time 3 x 3k has the same drop numbers as 1x50k. My suggestion is do 3k drops times what ever number you put in with a refresh time based on total number. 50k res giving you 16 x 3k drops and a long refresh time. As is, uncommon drops are discouraging slows the game down a lot

dawn rock Mar 2, 2019, 12:22 AM

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@jolly pawn
Apparently, selecting the "2 Batches" or "3 Batches" options actually increases your chances of refining uncommon materials.
https://www.chaptercheats.com/qna/android/408283/Star-Trek-Fleet-Command-Answers.htm?qid=198572
https://www.mrguider.org/articles/star-trek-fleet-command-mining-tritanium-crystal-gas-ore-dilithium/ 🖖

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Star Trek Fleet Command Mining: Tritanium, Crystal, Gas, Ore, Dili...

If you are wondering how to mine tritanium, dilithium crystals, gas, ore in Star Trek Fleet Command, then we have got you covered and shared everything

obtuse plume Mar 2, 2019, 12:34 AM

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it's dumb the amount of things in the station that aren't accessible until level 50. that's the highest level in the game and most people will never get there. they aren't utilizing the game play well

fast gulch Mar 2, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Nah, bear Jew you gotta buy it!

bright gale Mar 2, 2019, 4:39 AM

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What about trading materials to other players?

lilac saffron Mar 2, 2019, 5:58 AM

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for now, not till lvl 50 to unlock market.

queen ridge Mar 2, 2019, 6:17 AM

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@lilac saffron there is no market. It is just set to level 50 so no one can unlock it. It is not even in the game yet

lilac saffron Mar 2, 2019, 6:17 AM

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i know, its a placeholder.

queen ridge Mar 2, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Yep. Every lvl 50 building is a dummy placeholder

sleek bluff Mar 2, 2019, 6:20 AM

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What's the best way to get ahold of a moderator of STFC? I literally had a player just bully another player into quitting the game, threatening to harass every player he was associated with. When confronted about it, the offending player laughed and said "it's hilarious" and there's nothing anyone can do about it (He is an extremely high level player w/o an Alliance).

This is the kind of thing that ruins a game, faster than anything else. I'm not usually one to cry about "cyber bullies" or some lame shit like that but this is the first scenario I've ever encountered where it was so blatantly intended to inflict harm on a player's joy.

lilac saffron Mar 2, 2019, 6:25 AM

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take screenshots of the convo and submit a report in the game. the mods can only pass on some info, the mods are nebt het and jb scopely

hushed swift Mar 2, 2019, 6:51 AM

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@sleek bluff please do submit a ticket with screenshots in game, as Xandes said. Bullying is not something Scopley tolerates but needs to see to do something about.

sleek bluff Mar 2, 2019, 6:52 AM

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I have already submitted a ticket with as many screengrabs of the conversation I had, with the player, in question, but the screen grabs are impartial due to the messages deleting themselves after a random interval.

hushed swift Mar 2, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Ok, so when you see it in chat, touch the name of the person and hit report, keep reporting them each instance.

sleek bluff Mar 2, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Will do.

keen ledge Mar 2, 2019, 6:58 AM

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our server is dead

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like dead dead

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 8:07 AM

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@sleek bluff there is no active moderation of ingame chats, the only thing you can do is report and block players

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@keen ledge like the target you refer to in your username ? 😃 anyways, I heard some servers already started to get merged, and they are coding interface options for support to be able to relocate players to other servers upon request too

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your nick and alliance tag makes me think about the phrase: Bow before me, for I am root!

hushed swift Mar 2, 2019, 9:10 AM

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@solemn coral who told you servers were being merged? The only merge that has ever happened was the beta and founders and we were told after that it would not happen again.

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 9:11 AM

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if they did it on the founder/beta's it might be a test to see if it is possible, and a statement like 'will never happen again' is simply false 😉

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if servers die out because users are fedup with the way being treated, they will have no other option then to merge servers in the future

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otherwise running a server with low amount of players is simply a waste of precious resources

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so, to answer your question: noone did, but it's a matter of pure logic it will/might happen again

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the server being emptied will probably be converted into a release server to accept new clients

hushed swift Mar 2, 2019, 9:15 AM

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It was in the Dev Q&A we had before the game opened so no, not false.

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 9:15 AM

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we'll see

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a lot was promised, and the promise was not kept 😉

hushed swift Mar 2, 2019, 9:16 AM

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And they arent servers, theyre instances.

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 9:16 AM

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I remember a facebook post from a beta player where he said devs promised something that would be available within 30 days, which was years ago

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yes, ec2 cloud instances, I am aware

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I still call them servers, despite them running in a virtual container 😉

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:05 AM

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nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 10:07 AM

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@solemn coral Well, as far as I am concerned I am reluctant to commit myself or others until we have some certitude that stuff is happening if we help (and this is what I said to CS as well)

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:08 AM

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I quote CS on that for the answer: I'm all in for making players happy while working smarter. We'll definitely check your Mantis periodically and the CMs can touch base with you over Discord then (what we're currently doing).

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Point being that if people see they report and something is ticking on what they do it can deter them from leaving, if they just report into a "black hole" like it's today with CS this will make things even worse and it will backfire, having the opposite effect

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:09 AM

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it's fresh and details have to be worked out

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Ok, let me discuss it with my alliance management and see how we can work on it; we've already discussed the idea of bug-hunting before

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I'll be back on this

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:11 AM

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sure

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we can always try, not even trying is failing already

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Still for now this frozen hostiles bug is a killer for everybody, lost already three people because of it

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@nova sierra about the pseudo code like challenge in order to trigger people to help you, is this feasonable ?

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@nova sierra in regards to the npc/mine bug for example, we would need to know stuff like, what info is kept about these objects, how are they updated etc

elder mason Mar 2, 2019, 10:16 AM

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officer abilities still odn't work right

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 10:18 AM

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known

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will work out a detailed report in regards to the mining rates

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time to drive around in the real world, bbl

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I live in nl, so flying is not allowed, and I rather spend the money on something better then speeding tickets 😉

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 10:57 AM

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while in the beningin...beenengining....be...months ago, we dreaded the server merge, now we look forward to it.
Our instance has reached the point where there is one mega coalition, no wars...and total boredom.
Players have started login in less often, or quiting outright due to the no-war status.
Sooo...is there a merge in the works, and will it use a power ballance?

zinc tusk Mar 2, 2019, 11:46 AM

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@solemn coral Another merge is on the cards

solemn coral Mar 2, 2019, 12:05 PM

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@nova sierra it will NOT solve the spamissue, as the one running them will adapt his code to play until the level he needs in order to send spam, hence why the current spambots have a power of 1035,, also I am made aware of mechanisms being coded in order to deal with such issues more efficiently, also made several proposals regarding this

earnest plover Mar 2, 2019, 1:27 PM

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@potent cipher

now how the hell am i supposed to know if I'm having progress or if i'm falling back.... (see klingon in pic) ???
To me it seems as i am stuck!!!!!

PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME <<<

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honestly this is a joke... no need for Q&A regarding a freaking mistake (its not even worth calling it a bug)

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keen ledge Mar 2, 2019, 2:29 PM

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@sleek bluff Im right here bro

keen ledge Mar 2, 2019, 2:57 PM

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@sleek bluff Your entire alliance has now been raided. Enjoy.

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@nova sierra at least you all get to play! On my server. I cannot mine for more than 5 minutes before some high level person comes by and nukes my miner.

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I uninstalled for the third time now. Doubt i will come back. It is just endless people just clear whole systems...just cause they can.

vague aspen Mar 2, 2019, 3:35 PM

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make certain mining systems prohibit 300k ships from destroying a 20k miner

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they wipe out a system and leaving without a scratch

plain aurora Mar 2, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Having mining events doesnt help anyone but the big guys that can clear a system and then they sit there and mine and keep clearing the little guys out

icy magnet Mar 2, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Hostiles are broken in my server and nodes don't work i reported it when it first started and haven't seen any fixes i would like to see some information why it's taking so long and more communication with the community.

nova sierra Mar 2, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Lots of people happy like always here with their game :-) keep it up guys!

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My only wish at this point in game, after all this pain and suffering been done it's this : I really hope peoples from whom I stole close to 40mil rss to not buy anymore packs. Maybe within few months of total drain and drop for sales the developers and the owners of the servers/game ... Peoples able to take better decisions will be " forced " to change the game into something playable and enjoyable.

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If eachone who spend moderated to nothing will take a stand and do anything they can for a game obviously like ... There will be some changes. If not things will be broken as they are now.

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@potent cipher support at its finest I send a ticket saying I can’t click the button to upgrade to ops lvl 36 it’s glitched it’s white and cannot be pressed , I then show another shot showing that it requires me to spend 1107 latinum to upgrade I then purchase it and it still not allow me to click the button it’s glitched , yes tried localisation first thing I did and support suggested , then they go on a tangent saying I haven’t used my resources or clicked the upgrade button , ummm hello that’s the support ticket the BUTTON is glitched it can’t be clicked it’s white not green and can’t be clicked , scripted response back click the button and it will work and closes ticket wtf

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Above whites out button , below example of working button

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And below this screen showing the purchase I needed to make which I did to upgrade then the button glitches out

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Guess what doesn’t work

zinc tusk Mar 3, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Good luck @thorny ridge been running the same ticket for nearly two months, break it down to picture books, same BS response, I'm sure if you couldn't purchase a pack it would be fixed quick.

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Prob is I’ve spent the lat cause I gave up on there scripted bs and guess what still doesn’t work lol

zinc tusk Mar 3, 2019, 4:50 AM

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More lat, game wants more and more.

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Yep scopely the never ending vacuum

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They don’t just suck u dry they suck your family and friends aswell

fiery sluice Mar 3, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Problem is it will say you need 3000 to upgrade but wont let you unless you have 3001 or more.so you pay the lat and you have the exact amount needed

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See if you can purchase more elsewhere

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 7:23 AM

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I have twice what’s needed

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It’s the fact the button is glitched and cannot be clicked

hushed swift Mar 3, 2019, 9:02 AM

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@thorny ridge I have also screenshot your issue and forwarded to it Jb so the minute he comes back, he will see it.

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Thanks support got back to they don’t get it they keep saying g just click the button

hushed swift Mar 3, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Well gotta hope JB can escalate it when he gets back.

thorny ridge Mar 3, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Yep I sent a detailed message with 8 screen shots and stepped out each issue and labeled screen shots and they still don’t understand last guy said it’s “how it’s intended “ lol to not progress they will quickly lose money if ppl spend to buy the items just to be told it won’t work as you can’t progress even with correct items

calm root Mar 3, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Could this section be reworded to either say "this is what they currently do" or even better "this is the bonus you'll get when you promote. I had thought it was the latter but was sorely disappointed

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calm root Mar 3, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Add more *3 rocks, I swear gas is never open

winged glen Mar 3, 2019, 3:36 PM

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At least you got tpring...i am 1 shard left since release

vernal crow Mar 3, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I seem to have been able to recreate the invisible mining glitch. For me, whenever my connection dropped and had to reload the game but did not force close the game, the glitch would appear.

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 4:06 PM

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@thorny ridge filed your 'locate' issue as https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=61, your convert issue seems to be part of the miscalculations several users reported already

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also put in that report that you where unable to explain it decently to them despite sending 8 shots, hope Support Lead will pick that up too

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@vernal crow define invisible mine

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 6:12 PM

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i think its when the node disappears but you're still mining, it's just a loading glitch, my game does it too. a tiny little star appears in its place

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 6:55 PM

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deplete mine, go off, see mine disappear, and sometimes later you see it active returned ?

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I think thats transaction related

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the code just updating the mine by generating a new one in its place with probably a new object id internally

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and the switch between delete and insert taking too long

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why not update ? 😛

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I did notice being nudged off from hiding under a mine this morning too

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but you can hide on mines you do get info about, but cannot really attach to

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still protected by the mine this way

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:00 PM

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i always get off, switch to galaxy view, locate miner and get right back on. it seems the refresh is the only necessary trigger for the respawn

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:00 PM

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and multiple ships can safely 'park' there

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@lilac saffron you simply sync, and thus get updated info 😉

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:02 PM

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they did that once to a player trying to hunt, literally 50+ players under the same node lmao

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:02 PM

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OMG

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wait a minute, if they delete and insert, they do it for accounting

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:02 PM

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it was like a rolling rolodex seeing all the names lol

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:02 PM

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depending on how extensive account logs are, that db might be huge

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again, why not simply let the mine exist as same objects where you simply update the counter and note it as restarted

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OnDeplete { if (!occupied) { addtimer <sleep time of mine> restartMine }}

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or even simpler: update mines set amount=<amount> where occupied=0 and amount=0 and last_occupied < now() - <interval>;

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:08 PM

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have you figured out why some nodes are dead? my guess is the timer is badly written or glitched

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I only can guess

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and thats serverside

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no way I can look into this

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:09 PM

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too bad they don't outsource the code so some players with qualifications can help out

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:10 PM

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I don't need that

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they could share it with me in pseudo code

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:11 PM

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i dont know all the mumbo jumbo lol i'd love to learn to code but alas lol

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:11 PM

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like, this is how it kinda works, the table kinda looks like this

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but, based on the fact that we get random reply failures on a lot, I think the issue goes a little deeper then the code

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it works, and it doesn't

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so I think they should look above the code

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:13 PM

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in front of the computer you mean? 😆

solemn coral Mar 3, 2019, 7:13 PM

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keep an eye on the db cluster and see if it can handle the load properly

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everything that fails randomly is bound to the same source for data, the data in the database

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and if it does not get the right answer, it spits errors, and our clients complain and crash

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I'd blame a ton of problem reports just on that

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I also suggested amazons ec2 firewall

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we generate a lot of hits

lilac saffron Mar 3, 2019, 7:19 PM

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my reverse engineering mind doesn't see the logic behind the failures, if thos nodes are tied to the same cluster for instructions, then shouldn't all nodes (node cluster A1) fail all over the server?

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i wonder if the nodes are individuall written and it's just human error that caused the failures and simply needs a rewrite of the counter/timer

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here in franchik there are 4 dead nodes and yet they animate the empty/respawn at the same time

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@solemn coral have you seen the linked nodes?

jolly wedge Mar 3, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Balance?

carmine jay Mar 3, 2019, 9:19 PM

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They have already said they are looking at pvp levels

jolly wedge Mar 3, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Haha funny

carmine jay Mar 3, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Wow, usually I need better material than that. Tonight is a good crowd 👍

pulsar ibex Mar 3, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Lol

river notch Mar 4, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Bullies are they looking @ that lol 😂

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worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 12:14 AM

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🤔

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calm root Mar 4, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Looks like they nudged it up again eh?

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 12:21 AM

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@worldly halo what was your ops level in first pic vs second pic?

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Did you go up in level? ^

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 12:23 AM

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@wicked jetty same level. I have not advanced from 24 till I maxed it all out... there is no special upgrade available me trying to convince me to purchase anything. I only see all $99 purchase options. #scam

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This was pre and post patch changes if I was a betting man. I have to dig back farther for a couple other screen shots to see how it’s progressed.

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 12:26 AM

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actually yea, did that first pack you linked have any of the tokens? when they released those they also buffed the contents of all the packs

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Nope. Looked back. No tokens. That’s when I noticed they redid how resources are distributed.

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I’m not a math major, but I get the feeling my prior $99 packs are now worth $75. 😂💰💰

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Aaand that's why people got refunds

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#FixTheEconomy but also unintentionally #NerfTheValue

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 12:59 AM

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they dumped the tokens?

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 1:01 AM

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@lilac saffron no... you mis read. It’s a before and after picture comparing Latinum rates, among other things, based on the $99 purchase in game.

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 1:04 AM

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you said no tokens. does the new pack contain any resource tokens?

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 1:06 AM

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@lilac saffron I said no tokens in reference to the before picture, the after picture has them, as it clearly shows. Scroll up a little further....

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 1:08 AM

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oooohhh my bad i didn't look at the pics clearly

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 1:08 AM

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😂👍🏼

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 1:08 AM

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lmao derped it again

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:45 AM

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@worldly halo thats not the only improvement, look at the rest, more uncommon as well

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 3:48 AM

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@solemn coral LoL my post wasn’t referring to “improvement”, it was directed at those who’d pay into it before the “change” and are out those extra resources. As someone pointed out so diligently earlier.... inflation is a bitch. 😂

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:48 AM

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the dutch surely know

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gov claims 2% more income , but at the other end they screw us over changing the tax rate on goods like food by 3%

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and actually, the TOS has a specific statement about pack changes

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 3:54 AM

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@solemn coral yes... they can change it at a whim and don’t give a shit if you know it changed - I’ve read their bs TOS

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Best meme I’ve seen posted yet. 😂

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solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:54 AM

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well, see it on the positive site, you got more for the same amount of bucks now

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 3:55 AM

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hmmmmm sure, if I spent money on the game. 🤣. A bit overpriced for my checking account.

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:56 AM

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to answer you meme: https://scarynet.org/outsider/obeyus.png

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 3:57 AM

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If we could only warp to a place that high.... it must be Eden!

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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so if I go to the grocery store and buy a box of cereal, then next week they are selling the same cereal in a larger size for the same price I got ripped off?

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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its based on a render bug 😛

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@wicked jetty see it like a box that shows (20% extra)

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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You’re missing my sarcasm.... 😆

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 3:59 AM

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well. considering the amount of resources it gets, it must be 😉

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the real whale in game is scopely 😛

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 4:00 AM

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@wicked jetty if it was an extra large box of honey Nut Cheerios... I probably wouldn’t complain

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 4:00 AM

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lol

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 4:01 AM

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dailies reset, bbl

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:13 AM

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@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> I had someone calling me racist names and threatening me in the galaxy chat last night. I would have thought a Star Trek game would be aggressive about banning people who display this kind of atrocious behavior...

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I’m a born and bread American btw (as if that makes a difference).

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This isn’t the first time racist behavior has been ignored in this game despite multiple people reporting it. I can’t imagine CBS would be okay with their brand being associated with a game that allows racist and anti-Semitic commentary without consequence.

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Do you have a policy you intend to explain and enforce on this topic or would you prefer I escalate the issue to CBS public relations?

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Pm that stuff to @potent cipher , they'll deal with him @narrow sequoia

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Thx!

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Np! Getting ganked is one thing, but verbal abuse is not cool

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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also send the screenshots to support and tell them what he's doing

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I did that... and reported the comments in the chat interface...

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Did that last time too... nothing happened.

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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ok hopefully jb can help more

humble dawn Mar 4, 2019, 4:21 AM

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They will usually just ask you to block them

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but good to report it through anyway so they're aware of the behavior.

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Well if that’s their answer I’ll happily go to CBS, Twitter, and whoever else can start a PR nightmare for them...

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I have a lot of screen shots of anti-Semitic comments too...

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Those will be popular with the press....

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Lol

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:37 AM

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I’m being nice enough to give them a chance to solve it first... again. In Today’s knee jerk reaction Internet era that’s not a courtesy that is often extended.

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 4:40 AM

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@narrow sequoia in game chat is non-moderated, all you can do is select the offending messages, click report, click on the offending users, block, and continue with your life and eat some yummie curry 😉

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and there is rage going on against scopely for years on several public media/social sites

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and they still exist, go figure

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Perhaps, but the fact that users can be reported for chat issues implies there is a policy and some kind of enforcement mechanism. It doesn’t have to be actively moderated for them to act or reports. Threatening violence is a crime; even online.

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 4:43 AM

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yes, the report will be dealth with, but due to the amount of reports, it might take a while

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if you also block the user, keep an eye on your ignore list, if you see the user suddenly displayed as deleted-<part of playerid>, the user has been removed permanently

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:46 AM

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CBS has gotten a black eye for their exec’s behavior lately... you think they want another PR scandal? I’m not going to go after Scopely... like you said; they don’t care. CBS has much more of a reputation and “household” brand to protect. They are know for aggressively censoring tv to be more family friendly. They will not want not of their well know brands associated with that kind of behavior.

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 4:46 AM

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CBS only licenses scopely to use the contents

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 4:48 AM

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They will have a “morality” clause in their contract they can use to revoke (in practice threaten to revoke) Scopely’s license to use the Star Trek name if they are damaging the brand and/or CBS’s reputation.

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It’s a typical clause in such a license agreement.

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CBS ‘s logo is on the game splash screen... and in game there is unmoderated racism, anti-semitism, and players threatening violence against others... media outcry has been built on far less.

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 5:05 AM

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@narrow sequoia good luck

narrow sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 5:06 AM

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It’s not ideal, but it’s better than just accepting that kind of behavior as normal or acceptable.

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 5:16 AM

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@potent cipher when did the numbers for alliance power change? This is a win but i only happened to notice... it also makes me wonder if there are other ninja updates...

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solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 6:03 AM

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much better indeed

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guess they are responding to the request to not round numbers too much

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 6:05 AM

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ooo nice, i hope they do the faction panel next

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it really bugs me that positive scores are rounded but the neg isnt????

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 6:06 AM

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yet

wicked jetty Mar 4, 2019, 6:07 AM

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no im hoping they remove the rounding from the positive score lol

ivory ember Mar 4, 2019, 6:22 AM

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@potent cipher the pvp match up is completely unfair.. here is an example, a lv29 hitting a lv20.. the higher level players pay $$$$ and use that to severely abuse the lower levels.. when the lower level players earn the resources to upgrade.. the higher level bullies come and raid bases for it.. there is not enough supply in shields for the amount of time it takes to protect resources while mining and refining the ever so RARE uncommon ... it is as if to succeed everyone has to be a p2p player.. and i am seeing more and more dead bases pop up (players quitting).. this has got to be fixed!

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solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 6:43 AM

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stop complaining krill 😉

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we are here to feed the whales! 😛

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and don't you mean p2w players ?

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offcourse thats their main goal, earn money

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 11:48 AM

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@potent cipher i agree with @ivory ember your screwed it up as always... but this time around even more
I've never seen such a bad balanced system ... this is embarssing

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how can u give those ship to ppl while other have neither the means not the unluck requerments to unlock it or even a slight lil chance of defence

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your own fault ppl are mass-complaining theire money back

gusty raptor Mar 4, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Is it me or are you making game unplayable on purpose? On my server half of the server bases cannot be attacked because there is no attack button??? And yet, your answer was: we know about it and working on solution. It seems you know about everything but doing nothing about that. Picture is just for example...

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solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@gusty raptor well I didn't knew about that one yet, thanks 😉 (https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=67)

queen ridge Mar 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

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@gusty raptor there no attack button if your ship is not in the same system as the base you’re attacking

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 1:03 PM

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misses the green home icon in the screenshot ....

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and since that player is level 22, I think he'd know already 😛

queen ridge Mar 4, 2019, 1:04 PM

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The home button doesn’t always show up when you’re outside of your system either

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And there’s a lot of people that I found that don’t know that. I found a lot of people on my own server who think attack button should show up no matter what

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 1:04 PM

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unless he is a baby whale 😉

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about to catch his first krill 😉

queen ridge Mar 4, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Not saying this isnt bug. Just making sure they actually have a ship in the same system as that base

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 1:06 PM

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agreed

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@gusty raptor is your base in the same system ?

queen ridge Mar 4, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I talked to a bunch of people who are over level 20 on my server who had no idea they were supposed attack using a combat triangle lol. Now that is pretty scary

gusty raptor Mar 4, 2019, 1:13 PM

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XD feel a little bit stupid now, got trolled by some alliance members about that "bug". Wasnt really looking before about stuff like that and when they mentioned it they hooked me up xD

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:29 PM

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WTF ... what kind of balance is this? Seriously... what i am supposed to do with this... this is no fun at all. Its pointless... just minutes away from uninstalling this game

neon dagger Mar 4, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Use a booster and save minutes lol

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:31 PM

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You're supposed to feed the whales. The sooner you realize, the sooner you either enjoy your little life or quit

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<- fellow cow here

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Yeah... i know the discussion... just dont get this maaaaassive range ...

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-3 + 3 would be more than enough as most ships have massive ranges as well ... is just really badly designed

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Yeah it's broke, but they've said it's not a high priority do just gotta die s bunch whole they 'take another look'

fiery sluice Mar 4, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Range is big because servers are small. People dont want to play farmville

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I do!

fiery sluice Mar 4, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Hayday might be for you then.

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:33 PM

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The range is just stupid

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:35 PM

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It is

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Ah well ... in half a year nobody is playing that crap anymore

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:35 PM

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They re looking at tightening it

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looking Tho. Not commited to doing anything about it just yet

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Yeah but to be honest... you spent ages to reach 20... just to figure out that you now even weaker compare to the gameplay before ... how does it work when i reach lvl26? Some 35 with his shinny 1,5mil ship is ripping my spines out just for fun....

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 1:39 PM

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@calm root I believe I’m on your server.... 😂

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:39 PM

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And when you loose the fun at all ... then it dosnt help that they have another look into maybe in a years time

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I think its a huge issue

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Don't look at the pvp range. It'll make you cry

sage shuttle Mar 4, 2019, 1:41 PM

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@gusty raptor you have to be in the same system to attack a base

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:41 PM

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@worldly halo Yeah? Which alliance are you?

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:42 PM

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the button would be grey.. but in screen its not there

worldly halo Mar 4, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@calm root I’m on a break - (Chuck)

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Ah cool cool. I've quit twice now, so maybe 3rd time is the charm? My life has been so much better just off doing my own thing and not trying to compete (except for mining events which I actually have a chance)

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:44 PM

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@potent cipher

once again ... tell me if and how much i increased Klingon reputation...

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@gusty raptor could you add the freaking Mining bug? which is kinda almost worst bug of all? why not listet

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:46 PM

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167k lat? Really!?!?!!?

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:48 PM

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queen ridge Mar 4, 2019, 1:49 PM

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@hollow tinsel I have just over 200k lat lol

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:49 PM

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it is frankly a lie ... it's all there is to it. and as long as ppl get lied to they will have the right to get theire money back. seems as apple and google agrees

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same goes for cutting down mining rate and saying .. the were just shown wrongly...

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:51 PM

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@jah there is even a third bug sometimes... the mining time on the ship tap is sometimes different to the mining time in the left panel ... happens quite often as well

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:51 PM

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not to mention it is known for half an year allready

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:52 PM

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My guess is the fucked up the calculations depend on the officers and there bonuses you have

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:54 PM

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scroll up...

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at least it is how it was supposed to be...
what kind of unneeded calculation was programm is unknown but its quite obviously that a mistake with operation rule was made

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Ah i see

lament trout Mar 4, 2019, 1:57 PM

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look at the difference in levels ... no way to defend against that crap.

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earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 1:58 PM

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screw the mining ships... what about the freaking bases... how are someone supposed to protect himself

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unless beeing 24/7 online popping more shields that one gets daily

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FUN GAME!!!!

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realy

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nothign strategic left in this game - well done @potent cipher

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 2:03 PM

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What i don't get ... do then actually play there own product? And do they actually sincerely think THIS is fun? That would be an interesting question for there round table

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 2:04 PM

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yes JB does play

hollow tinsel Mar 4, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Ah ok... well... i guess he is into mining then?

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 2:24 PM

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🤷

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he isn't making decisions on events

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Yeah a bunch of them do play, not sure how many. They re very aware of the same stuff were reporting

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 2:32 PM

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being CM and player of the game is hard 😉

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wouldn't surprise me if JB has a mini boxing ball on his desk in order to smash it to release some frustration 😉

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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calm root Mar 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Lol

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@solemn coral @potent cipher actual footage of JB at work

earnest plover Mar 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@potent cipher well seems to me that all this stuff aint worth answering.
Instead i guess...we go for the next event which will get even more thumbs down (but we dont care) and we allready now know that it will be even more screwed then last time cause of this inbalance...?

The only good part is that our Ramu-fraktion barly had more than 10 participants... so if u just give BP for the ships to all top 10 instead of top 1 the problem is kinda solved for 1/3 of the server ?!

Forgive me my sarcasm, it's all whats left

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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he's busy

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and sarcasm can be fun too

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you have to be sarcastic in such cases

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I had tuberculosis once, I laughed like hell while I was isolated in the hospital

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it helped me through

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Gotta have fun sometimes

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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so this game? peanuts!

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time to crack it's shell and get to the slimey insides

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no wait, thats an oister, not a peanut

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Base raiding... An alliance member @ lvl 24 found a juicy lvl 19 base full of resources and decided to raid it. He killed all the ships, neutralized the turrets, and started grabbing goodies. Others in our alliance tried to join in the fun, with some lvl 17 through 21 sending envoys to grab as much as we could. None of our ships survived against the disabled base.

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Now I'm not saying the base should be defenseless when it's cracked, but what's the point of making it beneficial to attack only when you have overwhelming advantage? Or are we meant to siphon off millions using a kehra with tiny cargo hold?

hushed swift Mar 4, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Do you know the disabled base strength after it was cracked @gaunt osprey

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I don't recall exactly, around 150k+

hushed swift Mar 4, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Unfortunately your envoys would need to be higher than the base strength after crack to do a faction mine. Envoys arent really built for that, North stars are or faction miners are. Sucks bananas, but.

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I normally need for an 800k base after crack round a 155 k antares or horizon to drain

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Or valkis, you get me

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 3:07 PM

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The way a "disabled" base works is just strange. Instant shield recharge, and turrets back online with 1hp and full attack power. Envoy has only one gun so it needs 3 full rounds of getting smacked by 3 turrets to knock them out.

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Meanwhile some jerk in a horizon can knock on my front door and unload everything I have with practically no warning

hushed swift Mar 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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You just reminded me to put up my shield. Ty

kindred sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Tell your alliance members to research the survey ship items.

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And max envoys (forntunates can’t loot)

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 3:10 PM

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I was one of the attackers, 21 vs 19, with maxed survey research and t6 envoy

kindred sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 3:10 PM

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I’ve looted many up to 320k listed station str with a max envoy and strong crew (about 50k listed power)

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Put in a good crew too*

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Those mining bonuses don’t help attacking a station.

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All three tiers of survey research maxed?

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Indeed, but not many other officers help either. I guess you need health boosts and enemy dmg reduction.

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Maxed as far as I can at 20-21

kindred sequoia Mar 4, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Also depends what the station has researched...

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Look at combat logs as well, there are times you’ll just get bad rolls (chain crust)

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Need to calculate odds if it’s closeish.

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Crits*

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I’m 23rd on my server (newer one) in resources raided and literally just got my horizon days ago. Have been using envoys a LOT for all my looting.

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Well my envoy isn't maxed and I don't have the resources to do it without raiding... Catch 22

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I checked the battle log, envoy knocked out 2 turrets, but the turrets fire 3 times per round with plenty of damage. I guess surviving a couple more shots from 3rd turret would have swayed it

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Do base turrets deal energy damage?

carmine jay Mar 4, 2019, 3:26 PM

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@potent cipher please can you put people out of their misery by responding to all the complaints about the lacklustre “bonuses” in game

Attack bonuses on the new faction ships being the prime example of this.

My view is that ALL bonuses are based on base stats, without crew, without tier upgrades etc.

Please can you confirm this is the case.

Thanks

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 4:05 PM

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yes they are @carmine jay -same with research buffs - based on base values . Thy always have been

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@potent cipher i have not received the alliance mining event rewards, although on the events tab it says i have received them

lilac saffron Mar 4, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Clear localizarion, and/or restart game

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Also make sure you are logged in

carmine jay Mar 4, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Cool, thanks @nova sierra i just see a lot of “disappointed” people expecting to 1 hit everything with their new shiny faction ships... perhaps it should be clearer for them. Its a lot of money afterall

wheat oak Mar 4, 2019, 4:19 PM

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They been spoiled by the Jellyfish effect

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 4:20 PM

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@nova sierra sometimes rewards take a while to be applied, wait 24hrs, if still nothing log a ticket with support

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wait til you do a research with 20% increase on something @carmine jay - the 20% increase is base level so generally about 1-3k in power . bit weird when you're upgrading something with 1m + in power lol

tough beacon Mar 4, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I am sure it is on purpose. When I repair a ship and I am out of a specific resource and I use latinum to make up the difference, logic should dictate that I have enough resource repair the ship instantly, but instead the needed resources are not fulfilled with my purchase and I am forced to wait for more resources to either generate or buy additional resources from a pack. Is Scopely skimming resources?

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Has anyone realized this?

solemn coral Mar 4, 2019, 4:49 PM

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hidden 'transaction fee' ?

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intergalactic taxes?

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 5:49 PM

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2nd day in a row with similar numbers

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So, lvl 35 refinery or big fluke

carmine jay Mar 4, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I started getting excited then saw level 35 Refinery .... i mean, estimated cost... 20k? @nova sierra

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Close, at rest now.

proper kiln Mar 4, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I have a serious suggestion to improve the game play....i would like to have the possibility to classify other alliances into friends (green), neutral (yellow) and at war (red). Having said this, it should be impossible to attack friends in the game...that would make the gameplay much better, avoid crashes at mining places, and will put diplo to a new level.

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Right now, all alli members need always to check the alli home page to see who can be attacked, and who not

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A system like that would be a milestone in this game

plain aurora Mar 4, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Being able to just set friends and who your at war with would be enough everyone else can stay the standard color

proper kiln Mar 4, 2019, 7:34 PM

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We are all grown up with green, yellow and red.....therefore my suggestion. Lila are you mates

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So everything will be in four colors, even the bases and ships

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And red are the computer animated ships anyway

velvet python Mar 4, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Just green for friends and yellow for at war then. Purple can remain neutral

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Ah but quest bosses are yellow

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 8:03 PM

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@proper kiln This has been suggested! https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=19

proper kiln Mar 4, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Yeah...because i am writing this since weeks in their questionairies

random bluff Mar 4, 2019, 8:53 PM

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This is something that needs to be fixed. Not even close to being fair. Either the number of attack lvls needs to be changed across the board or amount of power that can attack another. This shouldn't be allowed to happen.

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nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 8:54 PM

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^^^^^

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 8:56 PM

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would be nice. Level banding is being 'looked at'

gaunt osprey Mar 4, 2019, 9:41 PM

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I actually would like to see a wider level band in the specific case of ships on depleted nodes

gritty shoal Mar 4, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@random bluff Wait until you get to 21/22 and 30+ are hitting your base with 600k+ ships and your best defense ability is 400k or so. Then it really reeks of ridiculous. They are catering to their massive paying customers. Unfortunately, they have forgotten the basics of p2 speed up games... They need lambs to slaughter and the wolves are so far ahead its the reason servers had less than 100 people of each faction scoring cumulative points prizes

random bluff Mar 4, 2019, 9:53 PM

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@gritty shoal I know. But eventually, if all the free and semi free players quit the others eventually will to because they wont have anyone to make fun of. But hey...if someone is within 3 or 4 lvls with that power, then fine. But shouldnt be almost 10 higher. Or make it that it's with 3 for ships and say 5 for stations. Give people some type of fighting chance.

gritty shoal Mar 4, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@random bluff This is my point. There is such an imbalance because they have such a wide level range to hit down to, because they want/need to cater to the p2 speed up crowd, so they keep spending. If my server is any indication, the f2p folks are mostly gone because the progress blocks... The moderate spenders are quitting at an enormous rate because it's become bubble or get cleaned out and people don't want to have to manage a game 24/7, especially one that glitches with bubbles and notifications as this one does. They don't see it as a positive fun factor given the work involved and the constant need for attention. And finally even the power spenders are quitting at an alarming rate because those that still play and have rss, most are bubbled and move around a great deal trying to snag peanuts so they spend a great deal of time trying to find targets. Scopely in my opinion really missed the mark

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This is currently going on.. There are now 35 30+/500k + ships in a sector of people that their highest is 26. There is no fun factor.. We just bubble up and wait for them to go away

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@potent cipher This is precisely why your revenue is slowing down

indigo ivy Mar 4, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Hey look it’s dngr raiding everyone’s bases all day long leaving them with nothing

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Then people quitting

gritty shoal Mar 4, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Has nothing to do with DNGR actually @indigo ivy People can bubble to avoid it.. It's a lack of fun factor when you have people in 600k ships you can't even scratch but they basically own you. I get it.. People that pay should be ahead... But you have to give the lambs something to enjoy the slaughter to keep the game going

indigo ivy Mar 4, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I know trust me I know.

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The real problem is they have no incentive to attack or raid anyone their own level so all us lambs just get to suck on it

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 10:14 PM

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nice latinum cost for 270 parsteel and 45 dilitium and 12s build time

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 10:14 PM

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lol try in #👾-bug-reporting

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 10:15 PM

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it aint a bug, it's 100% wai 😁

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 10:15 PM

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preeeetty sure its a bug

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 10:16 PM

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well

hushed swift Mar 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Wtf? Haha @inner plaza

spark breach Mar 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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oh goodness, you know someone is going to fat finger that

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 10:22 PM

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lol

inner plaza Mar 4, 2019, 10:25 PM

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i almost did cuz i was building smth else already and wanted to get 1 building for daily

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and obv you don't expect that cost, almost clicked that button 😄

spark breach Mar 4, 2019, 10:26 PM

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😂 I'm glad you didn't!

random bluff Mar 4, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Agreed. I only stayed this long because I've made some good friends. I almost quit before that though and whats need to upgrade is getting insane...and I just got to lvl 19

gritty shoal Mar 4, 2019, 10:39 PM

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basically where a lot of us are and we are finding discord more fun

random bluff Mar 4, 2019, 10:43 PM

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that's very true, lol

gaunt lagoon Mar 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Fix the rates that uncommons drop

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 11:44 PM

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@gaunt lagoon Yeah definitely. Sounded like They re looking into the metrics around the refinery to make it more consistent

nova sierra Mar 4, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I Killed the nausican thief (level26) of the missions, now i have to fly to a level 60 system.... warp 40 level... yes... in 10 years... i’m level 19 and not able to complete a lot of missions due to this kind of stupidities in the game. There is a big issue in this game concerning balance... and that issue is growing with each update we receive...

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gaunt lagoon Mar 4, 2019, 11:47 PM

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@calm root that would be awesome.

calm root Mar 4, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Totally

hoary robin Mar 5, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Here is a fair fight. Come on Star Fleet dev team

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Or this. 10 different

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No wonder people quit

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 2:02 AM

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They are looking at tightening the level brackets fyi

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Well it shouldnt be that hard to find. Shall I buy them a telescope?

chrome thorn Mar 5, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Hey @potent cipher 5 minute peace shields aren’t activating. Just got attacked, won, but 5 minute never popped.

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 2:08 AM

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They are looking into that

chrome thorn Mar 5, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Cool.

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 2:56 AM

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also the 5 minute shields take 8 hours to refresh

wary bay Mar 5, 2019, 7:01 AM

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What is up with lvl 10-14 sitting on 3* nodes! Scopely needs to either add more nodes or restrict them from players who can't use it yet!

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 7:55 AM

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If brackets go more tight (eg. Lvl 26 can attack 10% below, etc) also the mining access should go up as said above.

tall helm Mar 5, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Agreed .

wary bay Mar 5, 2019, 8:13 AM

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I like the 10% attack, it would be much more fair than now!

carmine jay Mar 5, 2019, 8:48 AM

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This is a really good point actually @nova sierra

Maybe the cry babies will stop when they get 80% of G3 access taken away.

It’s risk / reward. They can’t have full access to G3 and just sit on zero mines all day @potent cipher

round shard Mar 5, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Half the reason I get hit empty on G3 is because I'm an easier target than the higher level players sitting on zero mines without fear.
Mine blocking is a separate problem to the attack levels but I agree it would have to be dealt with first to avoid making it worse.

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 10:16 AM

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There’s nobody who isnt easy target for a mediocre->strong research player with any decent ship, when mining. It is completely absurd to say lvl 29 wouldnt get hit while mining. It is whomever unless your galaxy has it under control as joint effort.

round shard Mar 5, 2019, 10:54 AM

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I'm just saying that a level 25 will go after a level 18 sooner than another level 25 if they want a mining spot. It's easier and there's less chance of effective retaliation. It makes sense.
It is absurd to say a 29 wouldn't get hit, which is why I didn't say it. They just wouldn't get hit whilst there were softer targets available and most targets are softer than a level 29. So they have much less to worry about.
Auto-recalling miners at 0 (or nudging them off nodes) would fix the mine blocking problem much more effectively than adding more soft targets for higher level players.
Until mine blocking is sorted, restricting attack ranges would be unfair on higher level players.

copper girder Mar 5, 2019, 10:56 AM

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we have implemented an agreement with all the major alliances in our server to not attack survey ships with no unprotected cargo, this allows everyone to mine in freedom. Spot have only been a problem during the mining event but almost everyone still respected the agreement on the server

cinder garden Mar 5, 2019, 11:17 AM

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The ability to nudge low levels you can't attack off mining nodes would be good too. It's absurd seeing a lvl9 mining g3 gas and having nothing you can do about it.

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 11:25 AM

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What annoys me is seeing lvl 17 or lower on an g3 roid i cannot kill ot nudge them off and they cant even refine what they mine until level 20. its very annoying

nocturne silo Mar 5, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@potent cipher Can you tell me why I am being chat banned because I used the name SupportDesk as a joke ? No warning, no just a ban?? Also I've reported players multiple or being racist and they are still there, seems I'm missing the point here??

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 11:29 AM

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@nocturne silo its cos you were reported most likely. we get so many lat spammers using terms like supportdesk, system etc they just get flagged and banned

nocturne silo Mar 5, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Yeah but we had like a racist on our server, got reported multiple times over and over again, he's still there doing his racist thing.

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A warning would have nice or block the name

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 11:35 AM

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@delicate sentinel why the game devs do not do something about account spamming? seems like the second ye ban a Free Lat spammer another one is created within seconds. Perhaps ye need to add in some form of bot account creation detection.

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or if the message is identical to the previous message prevent it from posting and auto report it

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another way would be force the account owner to get to ops lvl 3 before they can use GC

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most account bots wont do thaat far

white axle Mar 5, 2019, 11:50 AM

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not seen a latinium spammer on our server for ages but then havent seen any new players in my server for ages, a friend even tried to join the game kept making new accounts all the time and never once landed on my server after about 100 accounts he gave up and decided to play something else, but apparently the server isnt closed if you ask scopley

ornate scroll Mar 5, 2019, 11:57 AM

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My base was hit and destroyed by someone 7 levels higher than me. That's crazy and shouldn't be allowed

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Concerning lower levels on G3 nodes; my f2p alt base already had >500 Kling and Rom rep at ops lvl 18 and the dailies then require you to mine G3 even though I couldn't refine it. So no way I would say keep 18-19s off the G3.

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Concerning tightening pvp ranges; yes, needs to be addressed but a blanket +/- is not good. There's a lvl 34 ops at the top of one server, followed by a couple of 29-30s (only two of which are not in his alliance), then 28s. If you do a strict +/-4, that guy has about 3 players he can hit.

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Similar problem on most servers I would expect. The population curve gets very thin after lvl 28-ish

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:07 PM

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Yeah, finding a lvl14 on a G3 node is highly frustrating. Especially when you’re too high to attack them

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Need to get a lower alliance buddy to bump him

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Exactly

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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another big problem i see is all the goddam broken nodes. If the Devs just added 1mil ore/gas/crystals to all g2 nodes then they would only need to respawn once a day thus less chance for it to become a dud

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Eyyyyy @sage shuttle

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Sup

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Hey Minarion

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Also, the mining for nodes is too slow. 2K/hr Tritanium is disgusting. I could get that with my generators in 20mins

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Especially when things like the Kehra (which should be readily available at lvl20) takes 250K tritanium but my storage will go up to 100K and that’s it

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:11 PM

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lol wait til you get to lvl 24, my other account has been burning through par steel at a horredous rate

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:11 PM

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I got like 500K saved up

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:11 PM

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max warehouse is 1.5mil par ive used about 50mil in the last week

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Oh boi

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You know what they say, if you can’t store more. BUY THE REST

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:12 PM

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nah i steal it

limpid phoenix Mar 5, 2019, 12:13 PM

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I wish I could do that

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:13 PM

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even on the same server as you i steal it

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on that im only lvl 18 but i can easily take 15/16 lvl bases

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remember the vaults on 15/16 lvl bases are non existant

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 12:17 PM

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even with vaults, ppl where able to empty parts of it during raid

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:18 PM

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i iwsh the devs would add in a setting to set your preferred zoom level

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 12:18 PM

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thought about that too

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will file a suggestion ticket on my tracker

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@sage shuttle does https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=74 sound ok ?

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 12:36 PM

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yup looks good

slender comet Mar 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Hello @delicate sentinel welcome to the team and i hope you wont leave as fast as the Community Managers before you and that you can make a difference to the communication to the players. i really really hope it.
from my personal point of view, i am very unhappy with the kind of support scopely offers us ingame, if i contact em with a problem, i only get predefined copy and paste answers but no solution. im waiting now for almost 4 weeks for a solution of a problem but dont get any, a player from my Ally just got it in under 24 hours. thats a big big point you and all the others at Star Trek Fleet Command should work on.

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 1:23 PM

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@slender comet the communication issues with support are known and being worked on

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@slender comet while you folks will 'enjoy' the Q&A, I might have a convo with the support lead

queen ridge Mar 5, 2019, 1:29 PM

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@slender comet Reason why you get a copy pasted answer most of the time is the first time you submit a ticket and AI bot does all the talking

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@slender comet https://www.helpshift.com

That’s the company that handles the support tickets for the game. Personally I think it’s a mistake to use a company like that. Also they don’t have the proper tools to support the game properly

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slender comet Mar 5, 2019, 1:38 PM

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@delicate sentinel im communicating with the support for 4 weeks now, sometime the answer seems generated, sometimes it is personally typed. 😦

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 1:52 PM

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@slender comet depends on the agent handling the issue indeed, I don't like the fact that tickets are dealth with by random agents upon every reply

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the agent has to reread the entire ticket in order to know it's history, which takes a lot of time

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one of my suggestions would be to stick a ticket to a handler, and replies end up in that agents box

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since that agent is aware of the ticket, even if he handles thousands, the human brain is amazing

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also, what helped for me back then is state in the mail that you do not want a template answer

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since I made that clear to them, never got one again

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ofcourse it still will contain template answer parts, like the 'thank you for your contact' etc

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Yeah once you know their initial response being "did you clear your localization" "did you turn off and on" you can try those things first then let them know you did that already

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Just to help it along

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 1:58 PM

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and since you are then aware of the common 'solutions', you try those by default upon next ticket, and also mention in the ticket that you performed them

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also ALWAYS include your playerid already if you feel the issue is account related

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saves time, as thats stuff probably being asked in the follow up

delicate sentinel Mar 5, 2019, 1:58 PM

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@slender comet It depends on the severity of the matter. If it's a well known issue then macros will be made for ease and efficient work, if its a more specific issue then a more personalized answer will be given

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this in general is the best practice for all customer service in order to increase response rate whilst also holding a high quality bar

slender comet Mar 5, 2019, 1:59 PM

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would be nice if the support sees that its the 20th Message from me, that they handle it with a different priority. some tickets are done with 1 message, some after the second, but mine is open now for 4 weeks without any solution.

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@delicate sentinel that might be true, but mails are only quickly skimmed, history of ticket is not taken into account, and the agents decide to pull templates that look similar to the issue, but are not, just in order to remain within the SLA

delicate sentinel Mar 5, 2019, 2:01 PM

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This again is quite relative and will depend on the ticket / history / issue etc. I can understand that what I'm saying is super vague and annoying but it's the best I can give without concrete examples to follow up on

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:01 PM

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it's not, but it shows me you didn't have much tickets with support in the past 😉

slender comet Mar 5, 2019, 2:01 PM

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@delicate sentinel my problem is the well known 5min shield issue. My Ally-Mate got all his ress back instantly and all i get is the message that Scopely is working on it. i posted the screenshot of the supports message to my Mate and all i got was "we cant discuss any actions that the have done to other players"

delicate sentinel Mar 5, 2019, 2:02 PM

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I have xD I've worked in support for a few months because I needed to get an understanding how it works, fair to say I haven't done any for this company but it's something I will do since it's vital to the support of the community

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:02 PM

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yeah gnome, someone posted a reply on such a ticket, it was hilarious, the agent doing his math wrong by not taking date into account, being wrong by 24 hours regarding the regeneration time 😉

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM

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delicate sentinel Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM

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😐

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Friendly reminder of tracking faction progress is not fun.

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2000000+((40/240)*8000000)

delicate sentinel Mar 5, 2019, 2:03 PM

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yea :/

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:04 PM

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So I know I'm getting there. But, still, what a pain lol

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:04 PM

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@nova sierra yeah, I know ranking has changed, not showing rounded numbers anymore, they probably should apply that change in faction stats too

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Doesn't need to be exacting. But two decimal places would be nice

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Oddly enough it is exacting with negative factions

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:06 PM

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yes, I guess they forgot about abs()

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Also, on a side not, I was +300k Rom yesterday and completed 6 200k Fed missions

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and that is what happened.

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So beware if you are going two factions you may need to avoid missions and grind instead

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@solemn coral this aint abs, this is .toString(...)

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:10 PM

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nope, this is a math issue converting a number into 'human readable' output

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:10 PM

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formatting issue

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 2:10 PM

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It is a solved problem and they even do it all over the place. Just got lazy there

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:10 PM

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and abs must be the culprit, otherwise it would work with negative numbers as well

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what that code needs is negative = value < 0, value = abs(value), loop through the math determining it's string value, then output as (negative? '-':'').output_value

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:15 PM

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python {:.2f} gives you 2 decimal places, whatever the value. Certainly an equivalent in C++ or whatever they use

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:15 PM

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if it's a float or int yes

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but the number is converted to string, so it does not apply

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:16 PM

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would be silly to hold it as a string, no?

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:16 PM

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it's converted to string (3M in this case)

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:17 PM

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not necessarily one string. can be tw o concatenated. but we digress

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:17 PM

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for displaying purposes

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it's server side output, so I wouldn't know how they store it

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but I am sure it's a string object in the json

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:18 PM

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idiotic to store a counter as a pre-formatted string

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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why would you think its server sided output?

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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jason is just serialized objects. it's all string

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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pretty sure server gives you exact number

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and client makes it string

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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@wheat oak because the rank list output changed to no longer show shortened values and now returns the full int, since there was no client update prior to this change, it has to be serverside

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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yes. this does not require the server to store it as a string, just that it sends a formatted string to the clienr

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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never said that

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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ahhh sorry

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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different clients show different values

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german client has completely different formatting than english one e.g.

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one shows complete number, one shows formatted

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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heehee thankfully

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K for a thousand in English (which is weird in fact) and T or something for Tausend auf Deutsch?

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Taus perhaps

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French is probably K but could be "mille". Does yours say duizend?

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:24 PM

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no in german the ranking actually showed like 8,500.00 for 8.5k

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not sure if i remember this correctly tho

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didnt use german client for a while

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Faction figures say Tsd. in German

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:26 PM

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switched to german once, in order to verify a bug report

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:26 PM

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german client is completely messed up with completely wrong strings

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:26 PM

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and was glad to switch back to english

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:26 PM

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officers have wrong abilities etc

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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yeah, PvE chests are called PvP Truhe

inner plaza Mar 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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ye that too

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guess there arent any germans in their QA 😂

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=40

wheat oak Mar 5, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Surprising cos there're truck loads of Germans playing

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 2:28 PM

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the color of the associated image of the chest shows it's wrong 😉

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well, I figured it out when my german alli fella's had something like: whats a PvE chest? I don't see em!

tough beacon Mar 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I am level 26... ready to go to 27... I have a kumari and a mayflower that would each require to spend $700 per ship to get them to the next tier. So $1400 just to raise two ships one level. My plan is to work to 28 and that point I will be able to build the Saladin.... from all accounts that ship will cost $2000 to get to tier 4.
So if I do not pay $3400 which does include the money it would take to get my base to 28 then I will need to wait 3 years based on my current refining rates...
So you tell me is this game worth the money and time. I find the time and $ investment a little crazy. I am not F2P. Understand and appreciate the need to spend the money to keep the lights on. I just think that I have no recourse but to quit at this juncture unless something changes . To put this in perspective I could purchase a top tier console game and 60 new games for the same price. Help me justify this Scopely. I want really like this game, but I don’t care if you have millions of dollars. Is the content worth the investment?

carmine jay Mar 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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My attitude is to “spend when it provides value” which is why:

I stopped spending on crew past first epic
I stopped spending on ships past tier 4
I stopped spending on base past level 28

No value, no money. If everyone did this, things would change.

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Jelly was decent value (at launch)
NS decent value
Faction upgrade packs decent value

They can do it, its just drip fed is all

steep bronze Mar 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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my main thing is i dont mind spending but the amounts are just getting outrageous plus a lot of useless stuff in them as well. I'm not gonna spend 104 euro's on something where only half of it is usefull and the rest will rot in my inventory forever

fathom copper Mar 5, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@potent cipher seems like the droprate of G2 uncommen gone down again? Do you know anything about this?

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Jellyfish were everywhere in December. Hardly seem em anymore

neon dagger Mar 5, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I've just uninstalled the game at early level 23 with all ships and upgrades. Feeling betrayed by ingame bugs and zero customer support if you didn't spend above the magic threshold which is no doubt very high. Good luck to those of you still having fun playing and SCREW YOU SCOPELY douchebags for ruining a potentially good game

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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we will miss you

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 4:01 PM

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please donate your base to your alliance so that they may have a little help

tough beacon Mar 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I think they should diversify the pack content . Separate the g2 and g3 content . Give three price points for each with content specific to the value . Example would be...
G3 $100... G3 $50.... G3 $20
Also specific packs for upgrading different level of ship . Again so if I spend $100 to upgrade my ship form tier 3 to Tier 4 then all the content should be there to do so.
Anyway let me know your thoughts if you think this is realistic. I for one would spend more money if my purchase were a higher value added and specific to my purchase goal.

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 4:06 PM

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just allow converting lat into g3+ as well

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solved

tough beacon Mar 5, 2019, 4:06 PM

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That would be awesome VitaminTHC

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 4:07 PM

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https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=60 filed already

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I think that one is from the reddit post

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@neon dagger and I indeed still have fun in game despite the bugs that just provide me with an extra challenge

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Viagra ain't good for the blood pressure either, I suggest to switch to cialis 😉

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or kamagra

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viagra was invented for old people, so they don't roll out of bed during sleep

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 4:51 PM

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@neon dagger was it because of what we did?

neon dagger Mar 5, 2019, 5:00 PM

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@nova sierra no my friend nothing like that 😂 👍 I've come to this decision this weekend during the event when for the first time I expected some help from so-called support and only got sugarcoat and sweettalk instead. I realized the only future for f2p players is to feed the whales because the whole game is twisted to that end only... It's not fun for me in the long run and I have much better things to do in my life than waiting for a few uncommon ress to eventually give me 2% more strength. I'm not sure what's going on on your side but from the little I could see I'm really really glad to be out of this now 😁👍

nova sierra Mar 5, 2019, 5:00 PM

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😂😂😂

solemn coral Mar 5, 2019, 5:29 PM

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summarized, you failed to create enough patience to fight the paywall, made extra challenging by the supports replies and bugs in the game ?

marble bramble Mar 5, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Need more space in alliance announcements. Where we place information that is necessary for all to see.

analog ravine Mar 5, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@potent cipher is this considered “working as intended”?

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No officer or ship abilities doing anything?

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Pretty sure Officer abilities are bugged/being worked on atm

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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wow ... so maybe we should shorten it down

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WHAT exactly is working atm.....?

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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A lot of stuff

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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tell me

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hit it

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 7:44 PM

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lol, it's much easier to say what's not working/being worked on than what is working

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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i would even dare to say there is not one freaking aspect of the game which is working atm

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 7:45 PM

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lol, I definitely feel ya. But every software/game has its bugs, this game is no different

wicked jetty Mar 5, 2019, 7:46 PM

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There's a number of officers that don't work, but many do and several have been fixed

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:47 PM

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well if someone were thinking about the community and how someone is supposed to have fun spending time in the game it would be maybe not all to differenz from a beta

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but lemme ask you one thing - what is a lvl <25 supposed to do atm expect beeing food for someone with mayflower / d3 etc

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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run?

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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cant

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there is a limit to your tokens

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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base wise? shield up

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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yep

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THATS THE WHOLE GAME atm

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:51 PM

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drain all your resources so they get nothing

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:51 PM

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shielding and setting up clocks to remind u to renew shield

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how so? when ur cap is 1,5 mil steel and u need 3 mil for every freaing building?

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while there was a chance to def against jellys and NS - even though it was hard

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now its .. i dont have other words

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bullshit

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:53 PM

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there really isn't much more you can do until you gain mmore power to defend yourself

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:53 PM

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oh right? how am i supposed to get that?

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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patience and planning

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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i will have my kumari tomorrow and it will be as useles as a G2 ship 😂

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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@carmine jay what is your opinion on the d3 costing $200 to unlock and who knows how much more to upgrade to a reasonable tier? In terms of value, worth/not worth the money

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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dude there is no arguing here - its bullshit

lilac saffron Mar 5, 2019, 7:54 PM

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not worth it

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not arguing, i understand the problem, i've went through the sme thing till we got enough power to defend ourselves against the bullies

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Yeah only the top whales on my server have those ships. I would estimate under 5% of people that could purchase those ships did

wicked jetty Mar 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Join an alliance and raid people. Hive up and use realtas to keep attackers from moving

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Didnt seem like a good value at all especially compared to ns prices

earnest plover Mar 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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i love your optimism XD

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seems liek u yet have to see and understand

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@nova sierra sorry man respect for the effort but u guys kileld it.
I dont think our server will last very long anymore

carmine jay Mar 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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New mini faction ships 100% not worth buying over kumari unless u can get them to t5+ imo @pallid peak

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Ofc, if u dont have a kumari and are pay2win they are decent

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But for budget players, no way

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Yeah and Tier 5 would be over 1k

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I skipped and am happy I did

carmine jay Mar 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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We have a dude with a t6 D3 and its awesome. But its also, 2k?

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So yeah

pallid peak Mar 5, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Yup 2k could get me to 28 way more value there

neon dagger Mar 5, 2019, 9:18 PM

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@solemn coral I'm leaving for a mix of reasons. I emphasized here the most generic ones that apply to every one of us. My answer to @nova sierra above was in a different context and should have been in a pm instead (we're allies on the same server and there was major stuff going on there within the same time frame, so he legitimately wondered if there was a causality relationship with my quitting, which is not the case). I wouldn't say of any player above lv20 they lack patience 😉

grave moth Mar 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Really need to sort out the refining process for G2 mats. 50k takes a good while to grind out and the uncommon materials drops are just awful - regularly 5 or under. Total waste of time considering a tier 6 Talla requires between 180 and 350 uncommon ore for each upgrade part.

wicked jetty Mar 5, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@grave moth at that level push to ops 20 instead of continuing to upgrade your talla imo

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Also if grinding out 50k means you miss refines, do 15k to make sure you keep it on cooldown

grave moth Mar 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

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It takes an absolute age to grind out the mats for everything, not just the Talla. I was just using it as an example. I'm a consistent daily player and it's a total pain.

plain aurora Mar 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

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From what I have noticed the 3k refine is more efficient for getting uncommons vs the 15k or 50k. I have refined the same amount of each and I got more uncommons from the 3k then doing the others.

calm root Mar 5, 2019, 10:15 PM

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yeah I only do 3k, the game will take a while but I'd rather spend time waiting for uncommon vs waiting for mining (which is much more hazardous)

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if I get stuck at a building, like nothing left, then I'll consider using the larger batches

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but for *3 you're paying 10 as much and only getting 2 times as much reward, so burning tons of unrefined for quicker times

plain aurora Mar 5, 2019, 10:22 PM

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The refine rate for uncommons vs what all needs uncommons to upgrade is completely out of balance

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 10:24 PM

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im stuck waitng for 1 rare cyrstal so i can tier up my ns

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waiting months now

solar pulsar Mar 5, 2019, 10:26 PM

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@sage shuttle rare is tough. I've been seeing a rare refine once every 1-2 weeks

wicked jetty Mar 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I feel ya @sage shuttle ivs pulled rare gas and ore, no rare crystal 😭

sage shuttle Mar 5, 2019, 11:27 PM

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showroom hull health bonus, does it upgrade station hull or ship hull with each level

fiery sluice Mar 5, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I'm a 26 going to 27 now never refined a single rare crystal

solar pulsar Mar 5, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I;m maxed 26, waiting for cc27. I get rare maybe once a week

unkempt solstice Mar 5, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I feel multiple ships should be repaired making the game more efficient instead of only 1 where takes too long for repairing one at a time

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Bring back the token exchange!!!

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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and lower the amount required to exchange them

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so we krill can benefit from them too

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Or thin cows

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I like to identify as a cow that hasn't been fed. Krill are small and don't consist of much food for whales (Tho i see why one would refer to us as krill)

plush bay Mar 6, 2019, 2:07 AM

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My weekly post on the refining state of the union - Refining still sucks. Yield for time invested is extremely disproportionate for the requirements of the game. Lvl 30.

stable ruin Mar 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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3000 xp 489 lat

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24k xp 494lat

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How??

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Same ship?

lilac saffron Mar 6, 2019, 4:12 AM

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that.....is weird

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BUT.... i got a neat pic for ya'll

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📎 Screenshot_20190228-221917.png

covert sonnet Mar 6, 2019, 4:23 AM

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The ship XP for latinum is not worth it at all

lilac saffron Mar 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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its only worth it for the speed ups lol

covert sonnet Mar 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Pretty much

lilac saffron Mar 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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but only 100 lat at a time lol

gaunt lagoon Mar 6, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Trying to refine uncommon mats SUCKS. Stuck for weeks.

slender comet Mar 6, 2019, 9:35 AM

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@delicate sentinel is there a way to farm support reputation-points, i guess i already earned a level up and should get to the next Level of Support. Maybe someone competent that can actually help me and gives me answers i deserve 😃

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that support fraction is a wierd one

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 10:01 AM

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I must be at the "hostile" lvl...they say they will get back to me

slender comet Mar 6, 2019, 10:02 AM

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i got this

analog ravine Mar 6, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Typical Scopely response. They only missed saying “soon”

hollow vapor Mar 6, 2019, 1:02 PM

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@slender comet I would just resend the points you made with a slight spin on them quite often support changes their tune it is completely random what actions they will take

slender comet Mar 6, 2019, 1:14 PM

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hollow vapor Mar 6, 2019, 1:16 PM

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ahhh then you're stuffed in general I find talking to a brick wall and much more productive and useful use of my time compared to talking to support pretty sure the intelligence is higher too

delicate sentinel Mar 6, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Depends on what support tiered system you want

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xD

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 1:39 PM

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@delicate sentinel, great post, that is exactly how we want to know about changes

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any other updates besides that ?

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kinda silly to do a maintenance of 2 hours just for this

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Wahooo mining rates + officer abilities fix!

charred ravine Mar 6, 2019, 1:41 PM

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@delicate sentinel the 4/6 and 3/6 in the announcement mean what?

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Someone going nuts with date format mm/dd and dd/mm ?

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@delicate sentinel you di exactly the same thing noone wanted!!!!

charred ravine Mar 6, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@delicate sentinel And are the mining countdowns are now synchronised? Between the mine object view and the view on the main UI above the ship?

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Mining rate jargon, ok, great explanation. Hoping to see it work as described 😏

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 1:46 PM

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adding the % bonus of crew and ship is total bullshit. Sorry!
YOU ARE CUTTING DOWN RATES from what it shown today to what was mined! Means 200 Years of mining for an OPS

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dont need fortunetelling to see that a big bunch of ppl will quit cause they are stuck in progress

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just as an example. a tier 6 envoy shows up to 5k trit /h atm (incl. buffs).
After patch it will be 2-2,5k / h

opal solstice Mar 6, 2019, 1:54 PM

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@delicate sentinel In regards to the recent announcement:
This is all good and great that you're fixing things, and relaying how things are working... but an extra 4 parsteel per minute is nothing.. what should be done is something closer to (1200 * 200%) * 35%, which would bring it up to 3240 / h, or 54 per minute, that would make an actual impact from using officer and ship specific bonuses.

delicate sentinel Mar 6, 2019, 1:55 PM

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They are also doing some other changes to the servers (QOL)

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 1:55 PM

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i think we all agree that the crew and shiff buffs should effect the base-rates and there be multiplied instead of simple be added

delicate sentinel Mar 6, 2019, 1:55 PM

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but those are the game facing changes

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 1:56 PM

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very very sad story once again

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 1:56 PM

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@delicate sentinel Your first announcements will make a lot of people happy.

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 1:58 PM

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@nova sierra then u should fast do some screenshot from the mining rates now and compare them to the ones after patch

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esp if u combine ship+crew buff

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I will certainly do some testing.

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:08 PM

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just a reminder - for an avarge need of 1 mil trit u need more then wooping 400h straight farming - realistic thats about 2 months of work

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esp with steel mining / amount need it will be kinda broken

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as a lvl 24 player u need an avarage of 1 to 1,5 million steel for almost EVERY buildung more that your max-cap.
Means u need to fully mine or rob this amount.

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so roughtly about 3.000 hours of steel farming to get buildung for OPS 25

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:14 PM

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<-- fully mines atm

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How much is ops 25?

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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3,5 mil steel for upgrade to 25

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avarage cap 1,5 mil

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:15 PM

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academy 36 cost me 325mil par, how many mining hours??

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:16 PM

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dunno your mining rates for steel. i am sure u got a horizon or something better

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but i bet its a matter of years

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:16 PM

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1650% with horizon

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Itd take me like 10 days of mining to get 3.5 mil parasteel on current pre patch rates

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I just screen shotted my rates of all my ships against resources they are bonused to. I'll compare after the patch as well.

hollow vapor Mar 6, 2019, 2:18 PM

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16414 hours mining so give or take 2 years

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:18 PM

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@nova sierra 16.500 hours

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Lol

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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or 3-4hrs alone with a plush base 🤔

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Mining ftw!

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:20 PM

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i would prefer to mine, but it's a no brainer to raid instead

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:20 PM

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thank you !

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:20 PM

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you forgot Helvia!

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25% + synergy

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:20 PM

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i'll show how much it changes... xD

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cause with the changes of scopely.. the higher the ship the lesser crew effect

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:21 PM

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I'd like to see a bit more balance. Base raiding should be more profitable- but mining base resources should not be negligible either

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:21 PM

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so excited, i better not be disappointed.....

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:21 PM

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after patch (but also right now true mining rate unlike the shown) the bonus just get added to the mining rate

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simply 1650% + 50%

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your helvia might be leveled up and have higher bonus tho

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but 50% bonus make 0,03% change for you

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:23 PM

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no the captain maneuver doesn't increase with rank, only officer ability

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:23 PM

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ah wasnt sure about that - thanks for info

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eh sorry i lied

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3% change

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well at least more then 1% XD

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:25 PM

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woop woop

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:29 PM

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@delicate sentinel
mining should not be an easy way to avoid fighting. but at least a realisitic strategic option.....

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Yeah I agree, but it should take time. Just not months lol

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:30 PM

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could you imagine miners actually worth hitting for res? 😱

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:31 PM

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theres a few right now that arent bad

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Warp speed bonus, defensive bonus, cargohold/protected cargo etc

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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anyway... atm mining crew is wasted part of space / programming / potential .. waste of everything

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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i use helvia, domitia and klaa on my b'rel when i'm going miner whomping

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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yeah the speed bonus is nice , i agree ^^

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I'm not sure- I like intelligent risk/reward choices.

earnest plover Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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but the speed bonus wit hfull cargo aint working....

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:32 PM

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warp 13 and 25% impulse boost

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Like an example- one mining crew gives a huge defensive bonus, but then gimps your mining rate. Or on the other crew a significant rate bonus, but gimps defense

dry hedge Mar 6, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Not sure if this a bug or not, so gonna post here. Together with an alliance member we compared the dilithium vaults and the impact of dilithium protection research

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It seems that the vault is only displaying its original values before any research

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These screens are from 1 alliance member. His lvl25 protection will be 7700 with minimal research

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These are mie. Still 7700 protection but with much more research.

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Are we missing something or is there a bug here?

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I'm not sure the amount displayed on the structure details reflects the research

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Best way to confirm is get someone to zero your base completely and see the actual value

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Or find someone that is getting zeroed to check the protected amount remaining vs the amount they have displayed

little hare Mar 6, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@delicate sentinel : this is not how the miners should work! Look at the pop-up when you click on a mining spot it's ship's mining bonus + % bonus on top of that from a mining officer(s) - otherwise it's not worth investing into such officers!

dry hedge Mar 6, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@solar pulsar thx!

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Will do

little hare Mar 6, 2019, 2:41 PM

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@delicate sentinel : What with JellyFish and its Captain Maneuver - this doesn't work at all, does it?

solar pulsar Mar 6, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I would definitely be interested @dry hedge I would ask someone that I've raided to check for me, but for some reason they aren't friendly afterwards 😃

dry hedge Mar 6, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Hahaha, I have the same 😃

calm root Mar 6, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Lol

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That's like the torture dude in Princess Bride "How would you rate your pain"

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 2:56 PM

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You say you tested various Officer and ship buffs etc for mining and they were all correct. YET your timers are off still. Which means I have to come off a mine and back on to reset my timer. The mine will say Blah minutes until cargo is full yet the timer is at 00:00

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 2:57 PM

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the patch has not been deployed yet

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if the math on both client and serverside has been corrected to match, it should fix timers too

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the client did the math right, it's the server who did not

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Ok

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 3:01 PM

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so I hope this maintenance patch will also address this automatically since the math changed on server

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Is there anyone who has the 25% loading screen issue and couldnt access the game in a ”problem resolved” state?

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 4:20 PM

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yes, they even tried reinstall

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the only cruel solution left was factory reset

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not sure if he did that and succeeded

vocal hawk Mar 6, 2019, 4:24 PM

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This is directed to scopely and only scopely, so no 2 cents from people who don't work for them.... why is it that you're nowhere near transparent when it comes to events? You say here's an event where you need to build/upgrade modules in order to progress but you arbitrarily decide that certain structures don't count and don't tell people which ones until they write support...why is that? Do you enjoy frustrating people and making them wonder why they waste the time on these events/game? Not only have I but other members of my alliance have had to deal with this lack of transparency... just put it in the description of the event and be done. This is ludicrous.

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 4:45 PM

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@solemn coral well, I would call that a reason for refund if they cant fix it 😁

deft owl Mar 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Refund? I want a refund. My Leader is stuck at 27 unless you have $2000 to keep going you will be stuck too

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Warp engines cannot reach where he needs to get

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The items necessary to upgrade ships don’t exist

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Here I’ll post his post here

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Im level 28, though, but hey, got it fixed

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@solemn coral I logged out from everything I could up to itunes/gamecenter and removed the app & reinstalled. It comes back now bit by bit, is slow as hell and everything is ”new”, but it works atleast for now

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@delicate sentinel tell my warmest greetings to scopely support for the great advises 😃

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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so something in your gamecenter profile screwed things up ?

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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No idea

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(Scopley support didnt respond in 4 hours)

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The glitch started with a warp problem, that got a ship stuck in a warp

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I tried to clear localization, didnt help, killed app and tried to open and it was jammed

winged bronze Mar 6, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Feedback. Dont advertise sales is icon as sale mean a discount on a price. Scopely sales are just different packs at the same price. That's called limited time offer or special offer....again not a sale!!!

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And sometimes "sale icon" shows up but nothing in store just regular packs at same price

nova sierra Mar 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Yey, a Q&A with zero content. I would heavily suggest a panel where keenser discusess with @nova sierra and a couple other players like @solemn coral who actually can objectively choose whats important on player side and leave 5 minutes for the lipstick questions. Just a thought, @delicate sentinel

solemn coral Mar 6, 2019, 7:51 PM

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maybe next time

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I will try to get in touch with them on a private message base

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to keep things bit calmer