#💬-general-feedback | Star Trek Fleet Command | Page 142

vagrant creek Dec 7, 2018, 5:48 AM

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Mingey i was being sarcastic 😃

fathom copper Dec 7, 2018, 6:01 AM

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lvl 24 Parstell vault 3.8 mil parstell to build storage capacity is around 1.5 mil, are those ppl retarded or dum as fk

visual basin Dec 7, 2018, 6:14 AM

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@crude kindle What are you going on about? What fix?

median sun Dec 7, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Is there not a way we can make an official complaint note to play store and App Store, to disable purchase for this game? I mean they keep ripping newcomers to the game that think that we, the community are just trolls, further more add to the complaint, that we require a FULL refund of all purchases, since there is no updates, and no response from support crews other then automated msg. This shit only happens in 2018, respect for gaming world has fallen to an ultra low. Shall we make a petition page

vagrant creek Dec 7, 2018, 7:49 AM

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Call them directly, like a few people if u are after a refund

hushed swift Dec 7, 2018, 8:18 AM

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@nova sierra so, its friday for us, Im assuming the equalisation will be tomorrow morning?

vagrant creek Dec 7, 2018, 8:31 AM

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Thinking positive thoughts my lady mistress?

hushed swift Dec 7, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Roflmfao. Yeah nah. Slowly my hope is falling asunder.

vagrant creek Dec 7, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Try stay positive, i wish there were more players like you and your husband.

hushed swift Dec 7, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Daww. Mush.

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 9:55 AM

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@median sun I completely agree... Hence I have started marking 5 star ratings on the stores as spam and recommending all the 1 star ratings...

All these noobs accusing the pre-Alpha testers of being trolls need protection from the con job... I feel for sad for them... Expecting a fair game only to be ripped off blind...

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Meh. The game review went from 3.9 to 4.4 since I started. But it's only become way bugged out in that time. It does seem suspect but I do think a few people legit like the game.

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 10:12 AM

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That happened overnight on release day... For months beforehand it was going down... Then boom... it goes up as the bugs get more game breaking...

Whilst I admit there will be those who are enjoying the early levels, the game is fun then, but you still get the bugs and no game with this many bugs gets more than a 4 star rating from most players... Leading those 5 stars to mostly be from the dev department and spambots sent by them...

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Overall attitude on founder servers is one of anger, frustration and abandonment. Zero communication from scopely regarding when or even IF we will receive updated galaxy map to match that of global release servers or if there will be any form of compensation for being held back in such a blatant cash grab. I'm not even going to get into the current round of bugs plaguing us...

potent cipher Dec 7, 2018, 11:22 AM

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as announced the server update will take place

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 11:23 AM

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When? The heat death of our sun will take place too...will update at least be before that?

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Soon

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Or in the coming weeks

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Abstract answers is all you'll get

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 11:31 AM

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I believe Sol will be a giant black hole before we get the update... @potent cipher The founders are losing all hope...

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 11:33 AM

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Nah Sol is too small to form a black hole it will become a white dwarf...the anger from founders however has enough mass to form a singularity

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I still believe that something impossible is more possible than Scopely fixing the mess they created and making pvp fair, enjoyable or challenging...

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 12:33 PM

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And when asked for specific eta nothing but crickets from scopely again. Vague assurances is all we've got since the migration debacle no actual action or feedback. How you can't see that this is alienating your playerbase is beyond me @potent cipher

fathom copper Dec 7, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Anyone know when amada update will be online?

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days or weeks

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Hahahaha

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 12:42 PM

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I'm gonna go with years...

green patio Dec 7, 2018, 12:46 PM

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@fathom copper it's only a concept at this stage so doubt you'll see Armada within 6 months

fathom copper Dec 7, 2018, 12:47 PM

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come on those ppl are fast to update😂

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heard somewhere in here it was weeks, and thats a week ago or so, but lets see

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Armadas... I have seen "coming soon" for 4 months... So maybe 2020 we will see the bug ridden implementation of it...

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Hey @nova sierra Put a fire under the devs... The tide of angry players is growing fast...

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 12:54 PM

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I'll try and turn up the head for you @naive yoke

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Thankyou... @nova sierra

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Dont try but do 😂

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That feels more Star Wars than Star Trek....

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Really should rename me to yoda 😂😂

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Rename you to Yoda they should hmmm

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😂😂😂

maiden kite Dec 7, 2018, 1:28 PM

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@potent cipher @nova sierra @nova sierra one wonders why it seems to be such an insurmountable problem for the devs to simply update the beta servers to the same as the global launch servers. Since they are already running that system it should be an extremely easy process. How many weeks have we been waiting now???????

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 1:29 PM

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To long

supple bluff Dec 7, 2018, 1:29 PM

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@maiden kite
Someone reformatted the thumb drive.

maiden kite Dec 7, 2018, 1:39 PM

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Yup, the devs are using lime wire to share their files with each other lmao. Gave all their computers aids.

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 1:48 PM

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Bahahahahaha good one @maiden kite

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It's good to see so much content in the official-announcement thread... Glad to be so well informed...

maiden kite Dec 7, 2018, 3:06 PM

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I mean if they didn’t use the official announcement thread to keep us informed of all the work they are doing to fix this shite fest we’d probably be really pissed off and think the devs were a lazy bunch of cash grabbers who didn’t give a damn about the players. So it’s such a good thing that we can see they’re listening to all our concerns and actually taking action on them. sarcasm font

visual basin Dec 7, 2018, 4:35 PM

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If they can update the game to include events across all servers then they most certainly can update to change those servers and implement pvp change within those same servers.... its not a question of they can or can't but simply they don't want to.

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imho.

earnest comet Dec 7, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I wish they told me I started on the beta server.. I would rather have waited for the main server (where my friends ended up).

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 5:38 PM

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nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 6:18 PM

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@earnest comet there’s hundreds of servers. You’d never match up with your friends

earnest comet Dec 7, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Any facts to back that up? Doubt it’s hundreds of servers for this game, but moving people that know each other to the same server should be a possibility. Thought I saw a commercial say “play with your friends” too (might have been me dreaming)

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I have 12 friends playing. Each one is on a different server

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And each server has about 1000 people and there’s a good 50k playing it

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So you’d need 50 servers at least .. so ok not 100s lol

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But even 50 is too many to hope to play with friends

earnest comet Dec 7, 2018, 6:26 PM

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A number like that was claimed by another company in a similar game and they had 8 servers I believe. Not saying it’s impossible (and 50 servers would explain the lack of control)

nova sierra Dec 7, 2018, 6:27 PM

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And if they allow transfers, servers get unbalanced. So I dunno how they will do it. Probably for people under lvl 10

naive yoke Dec 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

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I doubt 50k are playing it... More likely that many accounts have been created, the numbers of active players on the founders server has dropped each week...

We were supposedly full and couldn't accept new players, but as old players drop out therr have been newbies stuck in the founders server with all the angry founders and all the glitches...

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 2:48 AM

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It seems they have a regional "so many players per instance, then make a new instance" setup.

naive yoke Dec 8, 2018, 3:28 AM

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@flat ivy and by new instance, they get the latest build of the game... Hence you can't switch servers like so many other games...

It also explains why the devs take so long to fix bugs, that many different versions will make any bug hard to track the source of and fix...

remote temple Dec 8, 2018, 3:48 AM

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I heard that to move to another server we had to download our profile and save it onto a floppy disk (no USB or CD accepted by scopely) and post that floppy disk to scopely head office in the post and they will copy and paste the profile to a different server.

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 4:07 AM

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@remote temple
More likely the issue they're having is theirs no central id per account.
More likely it's per server, and anything else is assigned when you first load the game and it connects to the currently available instance.

So tracking how many active players there are and dealing with players swapping servers is a headache because they can't just change a variable like (1 is now 4)
More likely a bunch of things like "account number", "in-game name", "alliance name" and other things aren't checked against others in different servers for duplicates, so merging could be currently disastrous.

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Usually that kind of issue comes up when a game is designed as a single server game, and they do a workaround to make it a multiple server game.

Works in the short term, but long term it falls on its head until they fix it properly, which is my guess what's happened.

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They probably took a small page from WoW, but confused it a bit.

Too many players on a server causes bottlenecking on resources. So to fix it, you introduce a player cap per server.
Works with a set number of servers. Not quite ideal if you automate the process as much as they seem to have done.
not being able to select a server, or allow players to move servers makes this issue even more noticeable.

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@nova sierra
Ideally, I'd suggest making an in-game process that allows migrating the current active account to a set number of selectable servers.

You'll see how many players are active per server.
You'll be able to open more servers as needed.
People can organise and actually play with their friends.
The newest server or "lowest average active user" server can be used as the default server for new users, and also gives the option to move if needed for future organisation.
Cross server alliance events.
Cross all server alliance/solo events.

Theirs many notable games in the top 20 in this kind of game's genre with that ideal setup.

That, plus resource/time balancing as usual, fixed warp speeds, and an actual storyline.

Those seem like the bare minimum that need to be done.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:09 AM

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If you see other chat it appears all servers are playing different versions of the game, with completely different variables on ships, etc. So the ability to ever be able to change servers is highly unlikely

naive yoke Dec 8, 2018, 5:09 AM

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Unless they do the smart thing and fix it to the same version across all servers...

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:10 AM

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If they could fix 1 version it would be a start 🙄

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:10 AM

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@green patio
Version of the game should be the same.
Different servers can have different variables separate from game version.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Different maps, different ship abilities, different costs for upgrades ....

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Yup. From data mining, those are all server sided variables.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Yeah but if i take my Kehra to another system their all screwed

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So they won't ever allow it

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:13 AM

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You'd be taking your account template to another server.
Actual stats would adjust to the new server's variables.

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Base position on a new map could be the biggest issue

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Well that's a whole new ball game and considering how well the templates functioned last time I'd be surprised to see them attempt that again

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:14 AM

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And your power Vs others is a balancing thing.
Bound to happen with older players Vs newer players.

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Hence the level Vs level lockouts.
I'd see them making it more closer to 2-3 levels like it is on my server.

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I'm lvl 19 and can't hit lvl 14 and below.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:16 AM

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They'd need to move my base because if they nerfed ships too suit other server i wouldn't be able to reach it

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Yeah, I saw the warp speed reductions.
Base location issues is definitely an issue.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:16 AM

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The lvl vs lvl is one thing the same across all servers

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Can you attack any level of miners and bases?

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(15+ for bases)

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:17 AM

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I'm 24 and can only hit 6 down, its lvl 30+ that get 10 down

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It progresses

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:18 AM

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They'll probably dull that a bit too.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:18 AM

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They seem pretty pleased with it ... it's a challenge apparently

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Or just make it a static +-5.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:18 AM

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That's what we had pre launch

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:19 AM

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That doesn't seem like a challenge.
Locks virtually everybody out of the game until the highest player levels out of reach.

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(me on my server currently)

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:20 AM

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They'll just extend your range, but eventually you'll have drained 80% of people and the server will just die off
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flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Yeah. Hence why I've just stopped hitting others.

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And they've stopped hitting my miners with 30k jellys.

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 5:22 AM

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I think that will be the last gift they get from founding server, how long does it take for everyone to just give up .... the full life cycle of a server

flat ivy Dec 8, 2018, 5:22 AM

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"balanced"

nova sierra Dec 8, 2018, 3:15 PM

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I think of lot of people have allready stopped playing in my server

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 3:28 PM

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I really would prefer portrait mode rather than landscape. Is it possible to add this option? My phone is too big / my hands are too small for landscape 😉

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 4:54 PM

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so you put 3,000 unrefined ore, gas, whatever into the refinery and you get ...20-30 refined out? .....when you need 100-300 to upgrade just one aspect of one ship?

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is there something I'm missing here?

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because the refine time is 9 hours?

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for 20, 30 maybe 60 max

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:55 PM

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ye

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 4:56 PM

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and what does 2 batches for 15,000 give? (I'm almost afraid to ask)

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:56 PM

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well double the amount

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but you pay 5 times the amount

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 4:57 PM

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that's what I was afraid of... 5x input for 2x output

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that math doesn't add up

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unless you're a farmer irl or something ....lol

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Isn't it increasing as your refinery goes up in lvl?

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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no

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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I'm getting 100 refined

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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haven't really had to do refining until this piont

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point

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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you still pay 5 times

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for 2 times the output

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Is it cause I'm special

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:58 PM

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that youre not understanding it? Kappa

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 4:59 PM

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It's not hard to understand :)

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 4:59 PM

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so to be clear, 3000 in = less than 60 or maybe 100 out at higher level?

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 4:59 PM

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you have a goldfish as profile picture after all

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 5:00 PM

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and this seems to be something we really can't get except through mining?

zealous star Dec 8, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Yeah

visual basin Dec 8, 2018, 5:04 PM

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oh hell no

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later

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Thanks for the honesty, truly

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GL folks

coarse creek Dec 8, 2018, 8:55 PM

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Gotta agree, the refining is insane, and that's not even talking about uncommon refined materials which, as far as I can tell you get approximately. . . .never. It's ridiculous.

naive yoke Dec 8, 2018, 9:09 PM

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@coarse creek yup... taken me over a month for 150 g3 ore...

exotic vine Dec 8, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Refining 101. Or how to spend several random rolls a day hoping for the rare as frak 3* uncommon types to drop. When you upgrade to Operations 24 it should display ”Welcome to hell.”

dusty hedge Dec 8, 2018, 10:50 PM

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And they have the audacity to call it "interesting and challenging". Morons.

How is mining "challenging and interesting"

At least when I dig on my garden and plant veges, that is interesting.

Our server is pretty much dead now. But I think that is the plan.

Keep getting newbies who are prepared to spend a hundred or so, and then get pissed off when they get to circa lvl 20ish and leave.

Create new server image. Recruit newbies. Profit. Rinse/repeat.

If anyone from old server 1,2 really thinks things will get better next week then I've got a brand new unicorn for sale too....

patent niche Dec 8, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Is it used?

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Cos once they're used they're useless... not even recyclable...

viral pier Dec 8, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I am trying to get my money back, these morons of scopely

dusty hedge Dec 8, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Did that weeks ago. Apple refunded everything without question

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 11:14 PM

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rly?

dusty hedge Dec 8, 2018, 11:18 PM

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@shell epoch . Yep. I outlined my concerns, they went away for maybe 2 minutes and came back and said “all refunded”. Money is back in my CC now

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Interesting

naive garden Dec 8, 2018, 11:37 PM

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color is spelled wrong in that meme

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 11:47 PM

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no kappa

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US and UK spelling

green patio Dec 8, 2018, 11:55 PM

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@shell epoch actually it's US vs rest of the English speaking world spelling, but .....

shell epoch Dec 8, 2018, 11:57 PM

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most adopted UK i guess

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early colonies might have something to do with it

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partly why south africa speaks some broken dutch

fathom copper Dec 9, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Ad lvl 24 i need to build parstell vault, i can protect 14k more parstell and the building cost 3.8 million perstell, i have never been raided, so why the fu ck do i need this building for hits insane ammount off Parstell, how can somebody be so retarded to make a game like this.

nova sierra Dec 9, 2018, 9:55 AM

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It’s so if you are raided, you have some basic stuff to repair ships and resume mining/pvp

viral pier Dec 9, 2018, 10:12 AM

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Hello all, today i made an 2nd official complaint to scopely with beglium consumer organization Test aankoop,
I now asked to get involved with legal advice from an attorney, probably they will ask to have more players involved against a complaint at scopely, because of all the money players invested and not been able to play
as a normal game
if your are interested in joining this complaint , please contact me
through Discord ,with details Real life and the money wasted on this Alpha game

gloomy oasis Dec 9, 2018, 10:26 AM

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@viral pier i get you're pissed but how is this."feedback"?

nova sierra Dec 9, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Clear feedback to me. He is pissed at the unfinished quality, lack of support and the fact that we bought stuff only to have it all taken away.

naive yoke Dec 9, 2018, 1:46 PM

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@gloomy oasis It is feedback on how horribly Ferengi the design of the game is...

I mean I know the current US leader is a Ferengi before enhancements are done to make them look more appealing to the eyes...

But as they themselves have shown... That is no way to run a business...

gloomy oasis Dec 9, 2018, 2:29 PM

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Fuck me then... i thought feedback means specific issues so that the devs can fucking do something about it...

Not feelings and calls to class action lawsuits...

But hey maybe they'll do something about our feelings in the next patch and we can all become borg or something.

Clear feedback: the event is unbalanced. The last step takes too many points making it unreachable by normal means.

What he did: i feel unsatisfied about gameplay compared to what i paid so i'm starting a class action lawsuit... who wants in?

I mean i'm not happy with some issues too... but that's fucking not feedback.

naive yoke Dec 9, 2018, 2:45 PM

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If you paid more than you can pay for the latest AAA game you would do the same...

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Standards are standards...

nova sierra Dec 9, 2018, 2:50 PM

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Feedback should make the devs and execs sit up and take notice...hopefully mission accomplished

gloomy oasis Dec 9, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Ok... i'mma shut up before i say something i'll regret.

zealous star Dec 9, 2018, 8:48 PM

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The game could be a bit more self-balancing, say diminishing return when hitting ships way below your power rating?

flat ivy Dec 9, 2018, 9:32 PM

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That's not their idea of "challenging an interesting experience".

exotic vine Dec 9, 2018, 9:35 PM

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The “challenging and interesting experience” is waiting for someone else to slap you around with their wallet epeen.

vast basin Dec 9, 2018, 10:20 PM

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There's always a bigger fish

vagrant creek Dec 10, 2018, 12:21 AM

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Doesnt it make u curious and wanting more? Lol

naive garden Dec 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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its like you all have never played mobile games

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any lawsuit will be a waste of money with anything won going to the lawyers

green patio Dec 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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@naive garden I agree, the smarter play would be to inform cbs of the damage to star trek brand ( if you had issues).

naive garden Dec 10, 2018, 12:54 AM

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lol doubt thatd get far either

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timelines game exist and is way worse then this one

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if ya want refunds, ya should plead to apple/google

naive yoke Dec 10, 2018, 12:58 AM

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@<@&509690795536941056> I must commend Angel from support... Handled my ticket today perfectly... 👌

naive garden Dec 10, 2018, 12:59 AM

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😮

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so are you less disgusted now?

green patio Dec 10, 2018, 1:31 AM

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@naive yoke now that support knows who you are don't expect to hear from Angels again 😂 😂 😂

hallow scarab Dec 10, 2018, 1:46 AM

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It would be really nice if there was a quest marker at systems so we knew where to go and pick up quests we can actually complete.

flat ivy Dec 10, 2018, 2:28 AM

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<@&509690795536941056>
@nova sierra
Ideally, I'd suggest making an in-game process that allows migrating the current active account to a set number of selectable servers.

You'll see how many players are active per server.
You'll be able to open more servers as needed.
People can organise and actually play with their friends.
The newest server or "lowest average active user" server can be used as the default server for new users, and also gives the option to move if needed for future organisation.
Cross server alliance events.
Cross all server alliance/solo events.

Theirs many notable games in the top 20 in this kind of game's genre with that ideal setup.

That, plus resource/time balancing as usual, fixed warp speeds, and an actual storyline.

Those seem like the bare minimum that need to be done.
Reposting until a response is given.
Repost #2

naive yoke Dec 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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@green patio yeah I didn't expect that... I am very happy to have got the first response and follow up with the same support staff member...

<@&509690795536941056> the company should promote them to a position where they can bring the standard up to the standard they set...

maiden kite Dec 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Just did some rough maths. Need about 50mill tri to move up from level 29 to 30. Not including any ship repairs or ship upgrades. That just to get four building levelled up.

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@potent cipher the above is what you’ve got to look forward to lol. Sad isn’t it?

maiden kite Dec 10, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I mean I know you guys want the gameplay to be challenging but by my maths, let’s see, 50mil divided by the largest tri mine capacity of 60k gives me 8,333.33 So those mines take roughly a day and a half to mine it to empty so..... someone help out here. What’s a day and a half times 8,333.33 head desk that’s how many days it’s gunna take me to level up one level. Assuming I don’t actually need my two mining ships to mine a tonne of g3 at the same time “cries”

green patio Dec 10, 2018, 4:50 AM

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@maiden kite that's only 25 years 🤐

supple bluff Dec 10, 2018, 4:50 AM

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@maiden kite
It's actually about 34 YEARS.

What is it you do not understand about Scopeley's desire to make the game "challenging"?

@potent cipher

maiden kite Dec 10, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Schweet 😃 in 34 years I can go up a level yay, you jotting all this down @potent cipher lol lol

crude kindle Dec 10, 2018, 5:08 AM

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I have no doubt repairs and mining is working exactly as intended...they just wont admit they intended to fuck up our shit to be sure all the compensated res they dished out gets wasted.

supple bluff Dec 10, 2018, 6:36 AM

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@maiden kite
Make sure you put the game login and password in your will. Your great great great great grandchildren may want to get to level 50.

maiden kite Dec 10, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Nah I don’t hate my kids that much. Why would I subject them to this crap. They’ve got to get good jobs so I get an awesome nursing home. They won’t have time to keep mining 24/7

tough path Dec 10, 2018, 6:07 PM

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I have something to say about BabaDookie in this game. I have blocked him 2 days ago and apparently people told me I am still being insulted PERSONALLY, and I WAS THE ONE WHO IS BULLYING HIM. I didn’t say anything personal other than pointing out his rude behavior is unacceptable. If this game continues to not sanction players that give personal insults to more than 5 people regularly, I will see to it that this game gets reported to both app stores to be rated PG and be placed under investigation.

tough path Dec 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

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<@&509690795536941056> does this game sanction inappropriate behavior?

nova sierra Dec 10, 2018, 6:53 PM

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<@&509690795536941056> like on our Server a Admiral of an Alliance renamed himself to "Adolf Hitler" and his Allianve to "SS", nice Game you have here ^^

nova sierra Dec 10, 2018, 7:12 PM

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<@&509690795536941056> so you all can put in all these new events but no bug fixes ?

nova sierra Dec 10, 2018, 7:33 PM

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@nova sierra he did crawl back when he was called out about it

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Maybe a less obvious one, on my server there is this player called "paul bernardo". He joined my first fleet TOR (for toronto) and was like I am a celebrity in Toronto. Paul Bernardo is a pretty notorious murder rapist in Canada but you guys might not know internationally. So if you are banning that Hitler guy might wana purge paul too.

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They didnt banned him, tjats the point

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Throuh 1000000 possible Name Changes izs clear things like that happens, tjats why you are in the most Games only able to Change Name a single Time, to avoid thid

nova sierra Dec 10, 2018, 9:48 PM

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its not even that they should ban them

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why isnt there some filter to prevent people from nameing themselves hitler

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or rude stuff

flat ivy Dec 10, 2018, 11:16 PM

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If you want to see why filters can be good, but bad at the same time, go play a game called "hackers online".
Filters don't stop people who want to cause chaos.

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Was a moderator in that game for over a year..

shell epoch Dec 10, 2018, 11:21 PM

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pliz

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r6 siege best filters

zinc basin Dec 11, 2018, 5:27 AM

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It would be nice not having to repair a ship twice. another alliance members and I have had this happen a few times

viscid dove Dec 11, 2018, 5:55 AM

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@<@&509690795536941056> Good morning people. I know there's many stuff in this game which needs to be fixed or tweaked, but, for me, I really like this game. It has huge potential and at this time good stuff. It is fun how you can work together as an alliance to be at war or something. And there are many game mechanics I like, except everything needs some tweaks. Keep working and keep relaxing. There can't be a good result with pressure 🖖. Over and out.

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

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@viscid dove 🖖

keen quiver Dec 11, 2018, 6:03 AM

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@viscid dove well said mate.

vast basin Dec 11, 2018, 8:18 AM

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So according to @viscid dove everything is good but everything needs to change. Let's see how he deals with his home system becoming undiscovered, half the mines crapping out and the ones that do work sending you to other mines

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To name a few

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 9:21 AM

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@potent cipher @nova sierra

So after being raided by a cowardly level 32, I am level 23, I went on the offensive against their alliance and used all of the game mechanics I can... I can safely say the PvP needs a complete overhaul...

Sure I was able to notch up wins against the level 32 with 1 ship through timing and having plenty of shielding due to my stance against the PvP allowing them to pile up... And the use of 2 ships which were stuck in battle as decoys for the level 32 to attack for me to get my wins... And other than that I can hit miners... Which is against my natural instinct... A warrior needs a challenge...

But a lot of players are quitting the game due to this coward using the game mechanics to make all of the resources a level 23 player needs to upgrade their Ops in 10 minutes... 9 people from one alliance alone have left due to this one level 32 player... My alliance has rallied around me... Not all are as lucky as me...

I have a lot of data on the PvP element of this game over the past few days, and have sent in multiple tickets due to ships being stuck in battle, so I feel I can safely say...

The PvP is garbage... The update needs to restrict higher level players from pushing lower level players out of the game...

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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thanks for that report, appreciate it

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note we amended the 5+/- pvp attack criteria recently, and I see quite a few press on this new formula not cutting it in full. it can always be adjusted further down the line as we deep dive in the game data and gather community input

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so cheers for the notes!

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 9:35 AM

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@potent cipher thanks for the reply...

Was that was the patch in November? The current limit allows 10 levels lower for over level 30...

The old 5+/- was slightly better... But that gets really unbalanced around level 18... Where I now know that level 18s are easy prey for a level 23... As easy as taking out a single level 32 miner...

As the multipliers go up further the disparity just gets worse... So the band should narrow... over 30s should be 1+/-...

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 9:37 AM

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it's now a more dynamic formula, covered it a coipel times on chat, support can share further details upon you enquiring

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 9:40 AM

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My suggestion would be to base it on ship strength... Not ops... But I look forward to what the update brings... I just felt this really needs the most attention... We want to encourage lower level players to play and level up... Not leave because of the actions of the few...

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 9:41 AM

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well noted sir!

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Ahem... Madam... ;)

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But thankyou @potent cipher

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 9:48 AM

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oh, apologies. 😃

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 10:30 AM

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@potent cipher the amended version is the issue, if you can simply roll it back to the +5/-5 from before 97.3% of complaints will go away .... simples

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 10:33 AM

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@potent cipher roll back the mining rates to digprm s1 rates while you're at it

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 10:37 AM

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would be nice to get a poll up to probe that

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 10:38 AM

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Do it .... here ? Or give us a link ..... @potent cipher

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 10:38 AM

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can do yeah, just ashamed to do a strawpoll ahah

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https://strawpoll.com/7e4phrkf

STFC - PvP Formula - Strawpoll.com

Vote now: STFC - PvP Formula - I liked better the old +5 / -5 level rule, The new dynamic formula is better or ... Whats your opinion?

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^

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 10:43 AM

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Already 100% in favor of old rule !! 😇

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 10:50 AM

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let's keep them coming, not quite the critical mass for statistical relevance here but yeah

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feel free to pass it around your mates

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 10:55 AM

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@potent cipher if it actually ends up at 97.3% I'm changing my name to "figjam" 😂 😂

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 10:57 AM

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had to look that up... aussie stuff 😉

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:02 AM

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😂😂 didn't realize it wasn't universal

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:03 AM

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If the choice is between the post mid November patch and pre patch...

Pre-patch 5+/- will win easily... Only those who profit from the suffering of players who leave the game under the current dynamic would vote for the current unbalanced set up...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:04 AM

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91.67% so far 🤔

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Oh look... A space whale has voted... 1 vote for the garbage new dynamic...

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@potent cipher if those are the only choices...

Scrap PvP entirely...

The new dynamic system is just dynamic at pushing players off the servers...

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 11:06 AM

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PvP can't flourish until people can mine enough to repair ships

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:08 AM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher Even if they sped up the mining rates to 50 times the September rates... It still wouldnt be enough to stop the space whales from ruining the game and taking what was mined in a day within 10 minutes...

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 11:11 AM

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That's why it all needs to be implemented together, fix pvp mining and repairing with the same update. It actually worked really well for people on the digprm version before the merge. Miners had res worth hitting, a 300k ship cost 80k tri to repair, which an envoy could mine in half a day

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Oh I agree... In comparison to the new "dynamics" what we were playing in September was awesome...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Lets roll it all back and have some fun again .....

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Yeah... 99% of complaints would dry up...

@potent cipher The Founders have spoken...

The September version of the game was better... Roll it back and get feedback on that version with the latest map...

The new dynamics are garbage...

Send that to the devs...

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@potent cipher Just to be 100% clear...

I have data from the "new dynamic pvp system" and it needs a complete overhaul it is that rubbish and unbalanced...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:31 AM

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@naive yoke stop spamming people won't be able to find the vote

https://strawpoll.com/7e4phrkf

STFC - PvP Formula - Strawpoll.com

Vote now: STFC - PvP Formula - I liked better the old +5 / -5 level rule, The new dynamic formula is better or ... Whats your opinion?

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😉

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:33 AM

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Spam the vote instead ;)

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:33 AM

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@potent cipher maybe you can organize a "Votes" channel here ?

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 11:33 AM

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guys, it's fine to disagree on things, but lets keep it civilised and respectful on divergent opinions :p

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yeah i dont have the rights to do much, as a mere mod D:

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if we have a growing need for these, will do - liking the good old polls here

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:34 AM

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@potent cipher all good, founder and I are in same alliance ...

Might take you a while to get the Aussie pisstake culture

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:35 AM

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@potent cipher I have been civil, there is no petty stuff here... We just were not on the same page...

I am making sure it is clear the new pvp mechanics are terrible and needs to be dealt with... As it is one of the major reasons people are leaving the game...

The new dynamic of pvp is not good for the game... and we should all want what is best for the game...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:36 AM

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@potent cipher see now you made him start spamming again 😉

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:36 AM

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@green patio *her

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Her*

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hehe

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Lol

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@@green patio stop spamming people won't be able to find the vote ;)

https://strawpoll.com/7e4phrkf

STFC - PvP Formula - Strawpoll.com

Vote now: STFC - PvP Formula - I liked better the old +5 / -5 level rule, The new dynamic formula is better or ... Whats your opinion?

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 11:37 AM

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let's chill with this poll shall we 😉

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pass it on to your crew, let volume speak :p

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thanks!

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Oh I have made sure GC knows, and Twitcher has been passing it around to alliances...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:38 AM

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@naive yoke oh yeah apologies ma'am, i just use "he" as a gender non specific term on internet .... no catfish that way :)

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Lol

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 11:47 AM

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@potent cipher to be fair, it is the first real action ive seen from anything posted in this discord .... so excuse us for getting a little exuberant 😊

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 11:48 AM

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that's fair 😃

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 11:59 AM

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@potent cipher

What a stupid poll. How can anyone who has no idea what the "new dynamic formula" is, cast a valid vote?

📎 Screenshot_20181211-215819.jpg

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 12:09 PM

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@supple bluff very good point... Also skews a bias towards the new dynamics...

As people want change they will think this means change from the current dynamic @potent cipher

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:10 PM

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@supple bluff the "new dynamic" is current system where lvl 30s can rape everyone, the other is old system where if you built your defensive positions you were reasonably safe at any level and never going to lose millions of rss in one hit

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:13 PM

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@green patio
I actually do know what the "new" fucked up system is. My point is that the amount of thought that went into the wording of that poll is symptomatic of how Scopely do everything.... Half arsed and ill informed and biased!

Scopely also have no idea of the concept of geometric progression... A L30 hitting a L25 is NOTHING like a L20 hitting a L15 or a L40 hitting a L35.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Well he probably has to follow company guidelines, but at least he instigated some action 😉

maiden kite Dec 11, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Lmao I refuse to vote because pvp is completely irrelevant if you can’t ever afford to fix your ships.

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:20 PM

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.... A mining we will go
A mining we will go
Hey ho the dairy oh
A mining we will go...

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:21 PM

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@maiden kite yes but, they've already acknowledged the repair costs are an issue ... but everything I've seen from support suggests the "new and improved" dynamic pvp system is what everyone wants

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 12:23 PM

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The poll says otherwise... very loudly... even with it's inbuilt bias to the garbage dynamic version...

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:25 PM

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PVP POLL.
Vote 1 for +-5 irrespective of attacker level.
Vote 2 for +-5 that reduces to +-1 at higher ship power levels of the attacker.
Vote 3 for whatever the current crap is.

maiden kite Dec 11, 2018, 12:27 PM

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@green patio I simply refuse to give them any further things to deal with until they fix the first problem. They apparently can’t manage having all servers on the same rates so wouldn’t want to confuse the work experience kid anymore. I’ll believe it’s worthwhile trying to get other things fixed once they actually manage to fix something for the first time. Until then they aren’t worth my time

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:30 PM

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@maiden kite I don't actually expect they'll "fix" anything, i just wanted to get the point across.

I lost 1.5m rss in 1 hit from a mining vessel to someone 8 lvl higher and the response from support was "it's a visual error " and "everything is working as intended"

I still don't comprehend, but ....

maiden kite Dec 11, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Yup I wouldn’t even bother with support, completely and utterly useless. Plus they’ve been proven to tell outright lies a few times now. They’ve admitted they’re all trainees and they obviously have zero knowledge or experience of the game itself. May as well complain to your toaster. Same response plus the bonus of hot bread.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:34 PM

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To me a mining vessel (survey?) Is like the least of attacking ships ? So if a 300k strength mining vessel can zero a 350k strength station .... what is the point ?

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Oh don't worry the toaster got a serious working over 😉

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Hasn't replied to me since

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 12:35 PM

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can't beat the semi melted butter on the second slice 😋

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Yeah I just get burnt now on every setting ....

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Oh, that's just like this game 😉

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:41 PM

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@maiden kite
This game is toast.

maiden kite Dec 11, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Lmao, nah toast is yummy and useful. Nutritional value etc etc. it’s got way more positives than this game. And I don’t really like toast lol. I’m more of an English muffin chick. Maybe if Scopely smeared jam all over the game it might be worth something

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 12:45 PM

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yeah i hear the input on that new formula and wording on the poll

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but there is no way to simply phrase it...

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clearly is for specific audience that has experienced both.

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and only indicational value

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:47 PM

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@potent cipher
I admire your tenacity and actually think you are probably a bonza bloke.

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 12:47 PM

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while i do not get the reference, i'm grateful, I guess 😉

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again some aussie lingo, ahaha

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:47 PM

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You need to learn Strine JB

maiden kite Dec 11, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Lots of useful sayings like knucking futts. Heaps of ripper swear words. Which you’ll need working for Scopely lmao

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Playing "Scopely Discord" is actually more fun than playing STFC.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:52 PM

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@potent cipher don't listen to those flamin' galahs, she'll be right cobber, just take into account the vote is heavily skewed in favour of the dynamic and it'll all be bonza mate 👍

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True blue 😉

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:53 PM

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@green patio
The poll is as useful as a dead dingoes donga.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:55 PM

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We'd probably have better luck taking a baby camping at the foot of the rock .....

supple bluff Dec 11, 2018, 12:57 PM

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The guys that write the code are as useful as a glass door on a dunny,

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Maybe we should send some redbacks over 😉

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Fair suck of the sauce 😂 😂 😂

azure holly Dec 11, 2018, 12:59 PM

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@potent cipher Maybe this will help ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDb_WsAt_Z0

YouTube

hijosh

How to speak Australian : Abbreviate Everything

We are a lazy nation... Watch Part 2 here! https://youtu.be/rw7Fbc0sSDE http://facebook.com/hijosh http://instagram.com/hijosh http://twitter.com/hijosh http...

▶ Play video

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@green patio Krikie, givaguyago!

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 1:03 PM

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@azure holly yep basically, @potent cipher add an O or an EE (ie in a pinch) to the end of every second word, interspersed with a few farks or farqueues and she'll be right mate

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Watch "Austen Tayshus - Australiana (Official Uncensored Version)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/StcXGhuliRk

Advanced class only

YouTube

The 12th Man

Austen Tayshus - Australiana (Official Uncensored Version)

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bronze oracle Dec 11, 2018, 1:06 PM

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and we call our mates ***** and ***** mates

steady flare Dec 11, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Does anyone know if there should be a store offer for researching prime hulls? It's way early in the research tree, and needs 3* Uncommon refined ore. I've not even seen 3* ore mining nodes so far.

azure holly Dec 11, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Something to listen to while we wait for the update ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds0mNAaNBzo

YouTube

The Mario King

Bucko and champs: Aussie Jingle Bells

here's a little something for Christmas guys its the aussie version of jingle bells from bucko and champs Enjoy :)

▶ Play video

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 1:14 PM

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@steady flare sorry but might be better to wait a while to raise your issue, appears the Aussies have seized control of this chat ...

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Anyone got some relevant Rodney Rude ?

steady flare Dec 11, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Thanks @green patio , just figured i'd throw it out there while it's on my mind.

azure holly Dec 11, 2018, 1:17 PM

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@green patio Will this do? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Zuo2JtTdY

YouTube

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bronze oracle Dec 11, 2018, 1:17 PM

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trivia for you. rodney rude was born and went to school in my town. Bathurst is proud lol

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Watch "KEVIN BLOODY WILSON Hey Santa Claus" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/af7LwnA913g

YouTube

Kevin Bloody Wilson

KEVIN BLOODY WILSON Hey Santa Claus

KEV’S 2018 NEW ZEALAND Tour is one sale now! FIND ALL OF KEV'S CDs & DVDs AT: www.kevinbloodywilson.com find KEV on iTunes https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist...

▶ Play video

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I think this one will break down the language barrier ....

Watch "Rodney Rude Insults part 1" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/wn_MVtN4s9I

YouTube

Jamie Richards

Rodney Rude Insults part 1

rodney rudes best insults part 1

▶ Play video

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@potent cipher how'd you go ? Understand half of it ? 😀

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 1:31 PM

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was rough

vagrant creek Dec 11, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Youll be an honoray aussie in no time jb, just make sure you know the slang etc and you will be fine lol

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 1:47 PM

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At least you getting paid to listen to it 😀

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 1:55 PM

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@potent cipher why do I get missions at lv 20 that end in going to sol with no way to get to sol for ages?

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You all nerfed warp in the new servers but didn’t adjust the missions so they go to places we can’t

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📎 image0.png

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This same ship on the founder server has warp 56

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@potent cipher we are stuck Not being able to hardly do anything because our warp is limited @nova sierra

vagrant creek Dec 11, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Lol what the.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 2:33 PM

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@vagrant creek did you miss that conversation ? 😂 😂 😂

vagrant creek Dec 11, 2018, 2:34 PM

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No but i didnt see examples til now... wow

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 2:41 PM

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@nova sierra and I swapped screen shots a couple days ago, I'm interested to see if new maps mean we get their warp rate

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@potent cipher 91.3% 😀

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Is there a time limit on the vote ?

potent cipher Dec 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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nope, just a casual vote to gather insights

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 3:12 PM

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@potent cipher some more insight...

I have quickly jumped on another server via my other halves device... to check out the map and what else I could before the update, I love the new map btw...

I also checked out the top 2 players...

#1 level 25... 1 pvp hit...
#2 level 24... 8 pvp hits... pvp ratio 4...

This would be one of the latest builds of the game... So it has to have the "dynamic" pvp...

What this shows is leveling up takes a group effort from your alliance developing Non-Aggression-Pacts with other alliances so that players can mine and enjoy the game...

Hence most people who want the game to flourish and not be scatterred with motionless ships, like this server is, will take diplomacy over pvp...

As they realise that raiding pushes people out of the game... And if there aren't enough players, the servers get shut down... Therefore doesn't benefit anyone...

exotic vine Dec 11, 2018, 3:15 PM

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@naive yoke Beyond Lv24 raiding is the only way to progress. Mining is simply too slow, you don’t produce enough resources and you can only store a fraction of what you actually need.

green patio Dec 11, 2018, 3:17 PM

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So the key is nobody should improve defense stations any more than is absolutely necessary, otherwise we lose too much tritanium

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 3:23 PM

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@green patio And we absolutely got no answer to our question @potent cipher

naive yoke Dec 11, 2018, 4:49 PM

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@nova sierra Scopely only wants money... They probably print off our feedback just to throw it in the bin...

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 7:19 PM

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@franklin#8588 tap on their name and you can report them. Or send a message to Customer Service with the player's name - it will help us find the issue.

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@nova sierra I have tried searching that user... they must have some deviation of the name - let me know if you spot what it is.

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@nova sierra hey, sorry just getting to this. The individuals who work on events are not the same people who work on bugs, but I understand your point.

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@nova sierra As I said in another channel, I will try and get an answer on the warp question for you tomorrow - sorry I missed those I had to ask today.

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@nova sierra thanks!

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 7:26 PM

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lvl 24 dilithium proction cost 5.1 mil parstell, storage is 1.5 mil.... p2w progress somebody need to tell the ppl behind this game that they need to balance those building upgrades. The building is more or less useless.

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Sadly a game with a great potential is handled so poorly

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 7:31 PM

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@fathom copper the frustrating thing is they were 80% there with digprm version, with proper bux fixes and fully thought out rebalancing they could have made this an unbelievably brilliant game. They wanted to slow down progress so they throttled resource production and increased costs at the same time having a double whammy effect and completely overshot the mark

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 7:37 PM

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I have been plyying online games for many years like others here, i have also tested a lot off games from Alpha or beta, i have never seen anything handled as poorly as this game. Worst thing is that a lot off ppl supported the game with cash and got shit back

tulip mulch Dec 11, 2018, 7:40 PM

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@nova sierra about this answer « @nova sierra hey, sorry just getting to this. The individuals who work on events are not the same people who work on bugs, but I understand your point. » couldn’t you exchange the teams 😜

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 7:40 PM

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I got refunded after the first beta shut down and I was reset. Invested a bit in the relaunch but nowhere near some who got way less than me in the migration to scopely version

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They should have refunded everyone and then given them basic templates to start with based on ops level reached. Kept the mining rates (or at least 50% reduction to start) and left the repairs so at least people could raid/mine/repair at a pace that was enjoyable

gloomy oasis Dec 11, 2018, 7:45 PM

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@nova sierra can something be made about faction rewards? We don't wanna see +2 we want to see what we get....

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 7:47 PM

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It's officer xp and tokens

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Its pretty simple dont lauch a game that only are finish up to lvl 15 or around. Make some raids, event an more content overall. You dont need to have a lot off experience to understand that, but apparently those ppl are useless or worse

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Maybe just simple thief's

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Surely the best way to get people to spend money is to get them to complete in an arms race with rivals and have fun while doing so

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@fathom copper I would agree with that, but if a company has no further budget for development, they have to launch it in order to make money and continue

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Unfortunately a lot of developers these days don’t properly get funding for their development

gloomy oasis Dec 11, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Any game needs balancing and tweeking.

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No build will meet the expectations from the get go... but with time we'll get there.

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At least this is my opinion.

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 7:53 PM

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This company have top 200 cash making games on google play

gloomy oasis Dec 11, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Hell who remembers league of legends season 1 clown fiesta?

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 7:54 PM

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think the walking dead game they make is close to top 100

gloomy oasis Dec 11, 2018, 7:54 PM

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It took 2 years to make it a decent game and 3 more to kill it a bit. =))

fathom copper Dec 11, 2018, 8:04 PM

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what wonders me most is that some ppl keep spending, even that ppl over lvl 23 can tell that the game is unplayable after 23

nova sierra Dec 11, 2018, 8:17 PM

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@nova sierra what do you need to find the User?

naive yoke Dec 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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GET REFUNDS...!!!

TAKE WHATEVER LEGAL MEASURES YOU SEE FIT!!!

DO NOT BOTHER SENDING FEEDBACK...

NO ONE LISTENS...

THE PVP IS GARBAGE...

I AM HAPPY TO KEEP TAKING PMs ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS TO WHY I THINK IT IS GARBAGE....

THANKYOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE...

gloomy oasis Dec 12, 2018, 7:48 AM

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@naive yoke no offense but you're lucky i'm not a mod or you would be taking a 24 hour time out to think about your spam. ^_^

naive yoke Dec 12, 2018, 8:14 AM

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@gloomy oasis @nova sierra told me to stay loud about important issues...

All good, no offense taken... The more noise about me and pvp the better XD

vagrant creek Dec 12, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Arent u on the new beta test server? Pvp is nerfed for high levels

naive yoke Dec 12, 2018, 9:47 AM

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@vagrant creek too busy looking over the map...

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All those unexplored systems...

vagrant creek Dec 12, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Trit and g3 as far as the eyes can see

supple bluff Dec 12, 2018, 9:50 AM

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... And most of them 59k

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... And PVE on L24 drop 100% chests now of which 24% are 24 hour speed ups.

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... Don't know how long that will last for though.

tepid robin Dec 12, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Going way back up thread, you guys need to respond to innapropriate players. We have a sociopath spamming GC constantly, the level of abuse is high (though not extreme) and some players are constantly changing their name and alliance to create as much mayhem as possible.

bronze oracle Dec 12, 2018, 2:08 PM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher @nova sierra well i'm not really happy with having my kehra reduced from 79 warp range to 27 and all mission progress reduced to zero., all the trit and dil mined for drilling missions gone!

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Yes billy ... more nerfing ... but repair costs are now cheaper ...

bronze oracle Dec 12, 2018, 2:11 PM

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well thats a bonus

manic sundial Dec 12, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I'm not that high but is it really compared to the much lower warp range

maiden kite Dec 12, 2018, 2:18 PM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher WTF?!?! Not only are the mine capacities basically the same, now my ships can’t even reach them. Are Scopely seriously this stupid? Level 29 and don’t have warp level required to mine g3. How is it possible that Scopely managed to fuck the game up even more?!?!

vagrant creek Dec 12, 2018, 2:23 PM

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What she said

lavish prism Dec 12, 2018, 2:26 PM

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@maiden kite Voss (20), Davidul (20) and Francihk (20) have G3 mines.

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It is within warp 13.

potent cipher Dec 12, 2018, 2:28 PM

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it's significant rebalancing indeed. while warp range have been readjusted. new clusters of systems have been added to the top end of the neutral space.

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you also should get a courtesy reolcation token so you can adjust

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i hear the warp adjustement will take some getting use to, we'll monitor this closely

bronze oracle Dec 12, 2018, 2:30 PM

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@potent cipher . as trump say's "its very sad"

📎 Screenshot_20181213-012912_Star_Trek_Fleet_Command.jpg

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:34 PM

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@potent cipher I had to relocate twice before I could move out of my system...

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@bronze oracle @potent cipher All progress lost for active missions ... mining missions take forever, now even longer! I have raised a ticket asking this to be fixed or manually completed

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 2:38 PM

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I mined all that i need for assistance mision and in the second part they told me to give them 25k(25.000)... Admin told me it is write wrong they ask 250k :))) that s the reason i can t finsh that

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:))all that i mined must tu give them 👎

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Back

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👉 👌

bronze oracle Dec 12, 2018, 2:44 PM

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@azure holly i've raised a docket about them just now

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:47 PM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher Please help me understand why we can't recruit Hadley?

potent cipher Dec 12, 2018, 2:50 PM

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hmm?

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could you expand on this?

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:52 PM

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noone on the "founding" server can recruit him ...

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 2:52 PM

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📎 unknown.png

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:53 PM

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He is one of 2 cruical officers to extend warp

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 2:53 PM

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this guy, drops nowhere to be found

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📎 unknown.png

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:53 PM

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@nova sierra thanks ... you beat me to the screenshot 😉

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He's a real unicorn!

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 2:54 PM

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@azure holly I remember when they changed his text from range to speed, don't expect him to have the same effect here

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 2:55 PM

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him & cadet scotty were needed to extend reach into the upper systems

green patio Dec 12, 2018, 3:08 PM

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@potent cipher repair costs have decreased but repair times have increased by approximately 30% on a full ship (100k Kehra)

Time was supposed to decrease not increase

green patio Dec 12, 2018, 3:46 PM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher Despite having a clear path between these two systems why do ships take the long way around ?

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📎 Screenshot_20181213-004206_Star_Trek_Fleet_Command.jpg

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 3:47 PM

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@green patio Haven't you seen those road signs that say Scenic route?

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there are a couple in this game

green patio Dec 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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I get some when there's a higher lvl system in the way but this one is just dumb

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 3:48 PM

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@green patio I totally agree ... some have been there for over 6 months and never fixed even though reported!

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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if they make it take longer you play longer = meh logic

green patio Dec 12, 2018, 3:50 PM

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When the new systems are added with the old bugs you know they're onto a winner

supple bluff Dec 12, 2018, 4:00 PM

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@green patio
Skopely ships don't have GPS.

dense oak Dec 12, 2018, 6:03 PM

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We have already committed much time, enthusiasm and some of us money. How will the early supporters be compensated for their loyalty when they see their efforts being diluted by dramatically decreased cost for many things (the decrease is a good thing of course). How not to feel conned again by Scopely

manic sundial Dec 12, 2018, 6:33 PM

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What can we do about players who are spamming GC?, multiple reported them already but didn't do anything

potent cipher Dec 12, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Block them

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reach out tosupport to escalate rough cases

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we have more coming up both back end tools for us to act on, and front end to prevent those

manic sundial Dec 12, 2018, 6:46 PM

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does blocking them also removed the chats he's typing, like we can't see them anymore

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 6:49 PM

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@nova sierra let me get this straight, you make founders wait over a month to get updated servers that match global release servers and our compensation for this disgusting delay is one puny relocation token? How high were the devs when they decided that would go down well?

unreal inlet Dec 12, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Couldn’t you use the Euclidean distance in your program to fix this issue Developers??

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And another question why do some planets turn really red ?

gloomy oasis Dec 12, 2018, 6:58 PM

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@manic sundial yes it does. Not retroactively but still.

manic sundial Dec 12, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Thanks @gloomy oasis will do that then

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and Thanks @potent cipher for more information

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 7:46 PM

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So if I am getting this right:

Founderservers were in a beta stage without anyone knowing about it, with high amouts of pay to play included.
In the merge all lost building lvls ships without the proper compensation from devs for what they lost, wich highly likely was bought via in game purchase.
Founderservers remained in a beta stage for over a month after the official release, only knowing about it cause of creating new accounts and discord chats.
By updating the founderservers to the cutrent gamestate, there is a reset with warp and therfore players cant acces systems with theire top tier ships, wich were most likley upgraded via in app purchase.

So if I am getting this right, we payed for variouse in app stuff and "lost" ( got tacken away) what we bought from us?

upper parcel Dec 12, 2018, 7:47 PM

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@unreal inlet Planets turn red to indicate recent PvP activity.

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 7:52 PM

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warp adjustment will take "some getting used to" the only way Im getting the res to do anything now is to smash players 10 levels below me. Well done devs

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have a pile of missions I was in the middle of that have reset and now I cant reach... wtaf.

idle cradle Dec 12, 2018, 8:03 PM

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no way... money refund only; its days after

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or warp returned

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I want what I paid for

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that simple

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all these new laws regarding in app purchases

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what it outlines, and the 'details' of the ship before upgrades

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DAYS after selling 100's of 1000's of packs

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Does scopely reeeally think it can act that badly

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it will be inundated with complaints

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enough to break the internet

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Boycott - and at least stop spending people! keep the complaints/ tickets rolling

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Problem is most of the players are not on this discord server… We need to go in the game and get everybody to join here

idle cradle Dec 12, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I like everyone else who spent and had a plan and so on...

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yes.. well, that does not matter

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it's the 'official server'

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so this is where I prefer to post it 😛

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'General'

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 8:13 PM

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That’s kind of what I just said. Point is most of the people playing the games are not connected to this discord server and don’t know what’s going on

idle cradle Dec 12, 2018, 8:13 PM

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ofc

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I just wanted to post it here, and if they don't know, then they don't spend at all..

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

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nope, just let other know 'ingame' to bombard them with support tickets

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discord is not as important

warm wolf Dec 12, 2018, 8:17 PM

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no, in game, there was not change for most of the players

idle cradle Dec 12, 2018, 8:17 PM

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bb

warm wolf Dec 12, 2018, 8:17 PM

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most of the players had been playing on this universe since the beginning

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it's only the founders that had these high warp ranges for longer

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warp ranges that allowed G2 ships to go into end of G3 space

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all the other players just assumed that it is normal that the areas they are able to go to relate to the ships they owned

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 8:22 PM

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now g3 ships cant hit g3 space...

warm wolf Dec 12, 2018, 8:29 PM

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no? What's your highest warp range, atm?

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 8:30 PM

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@nova sierra That’s the problem we have on the release servers… We can’t get components and blueprints because our grade 3 ships cannot reach Grade three space

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The idiots nerfed the warp range, but did not adjust the rest of the universe LOL and the missions

warm wolf Dec 12, 2018, 8:31 PM

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even with a base Khera I can easily get to level 20 systems, and a little higher
I believe 24 was the max I saw.

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 8:32 PM

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T9 Gladius can get to max warp of 60

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before update that was 100

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Khera can’t even get to Andorea

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I do have a concern, the bonuses from miner crew and ships is not appropriately applying their bonus stats. We have been spending resources and hours of gameplay mining and grinding over false information. There needs to be a fix and restitution for all players that have spent money to not acquire the displayed bonuses. That is very disheartening and can be considered false advertisement. Please let me know what to expect for compensation!

hushed swift Dec 12, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I don’t understand why Scopley did it this way. Founders server had no mines and really bad repair costs, effectively killing our server. Newbie servers had shite warp range but more mines and systems. Why would you nerf us to oblivion, instead of raising their warp ranges to make the newbies happy and just give us the mines, systems and mining rates that make sense? It would of made both sides happy and people wouldn’t be quitting / demanding refunds today. Such a simple answer would of made this game so much better. After all that’s happened, after so many people stuck it out... you chose the wrong path.

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@nova sierra ^^

quiet drum Dec 12, 2018, 9:17 PM

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@hushed swift it seems like @nova sierra is trying to push us Founders out

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It's the only thing that explains why we keep getting screwed

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Could also ben thé high warp rates we're adjusted to make sure we don't get missions in lvl 40 systems while we hardly van beat npc in lvl 27 systems

quiet drum Dec 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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@potent cipher @nova sierra have money from the founders now that want us to spend more to get back what we already had before the update

exotic vine Dec 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Who’s Coral Griffin?

nova sierra Dec 12, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Why do u ask?

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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Progress on mission, broken it is. Mined resources for tasks, reset. Try harder you must. OR players, will you lose!

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Nerfing the range of our ships, a foolish blunder. Mistakes, you have made. Fix them, you must.

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:36 PM

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@vapid venture Scopely Customer Service said it did not happen, so apparently it is an illusion for all founding players

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Mastered the mind trick, they must have. But my ships can no longer reach systems where I have tasks partly completed. Smell their Bantha pudu, i can!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:38 PM

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so this "famous update" is a downgrade?

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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A kick in the teeth, it is. Progress we made, removed. Resources we mined, gone. Money we might have spent on their game, spent elsewhere, it shall be!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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we havent had the "up"grade yet

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Up, down and sideways ... best of all, customer service is unaware ofthe upgrade and refuse to help

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Don't even get me started on my missing SPOCK!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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so quit the game ?

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oh dear

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im getting flashbacks 😛

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I'm hearing players on the founding server are giving up!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Fartasia , one of my members might be family of you ? 😛

upper parcel Dec 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

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How does one determine which server they're on?

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:40 PM

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u just guess 😛

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ive heard im on the beta server .. lol not sure tho

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

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What are the top alliances in your server, Mayday?

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

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FOH is nr1

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Beta has STAR, BEST and JEDI at the top

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

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@stone oriole who is the #1 alliance on the founding server?

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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no idea who is the foundding server even 😛

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so where the hell am i 😂

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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ROG/HOM/SAUS/SWRD

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we are "the originals"

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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FOH-BEB-TS-AI-BAD

vapid venture Dec 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Maybe, more than one beta server?

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:43 PM

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doesnt matter what u call ur server, theyre all F'ED UP 😛

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:43 PM

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there is, but there is only 1 ALPHA/BETA server ... Been active since 2017!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:44 PM

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wow

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no im from the server that existed in september 2018 i heard

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so since 2017 this game is like this ?

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and ur still playing ??????????????????????

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u must have alot of faith in them 😛

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Before Nov 1, it was fun but buggy ... We merge with another server that was not that old and they nerfed us.... then launch came and went and we saw no changes, then last night we were upgraded to the release servers and nerfed even more ... both times were screwed up .... first time royally, this time not as bad...

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:46 PM

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yea we also merged with another server

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and it took them 2-3 days

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and still crappy as fok

upper parcel Dec 12, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Definitely on a different server then. Our top alliances are SC, TTS, and USMC

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:47 PM

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so what was supposed to take a few hours the first time, took 2 days, this time what was supposed to be upder 4 hours, I gave up waiting a 6!

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:47 PM

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warp on ships decreased and warp time increased

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yaaay

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damn

gloomy oasis Dec 12, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Theres also another founder server started on nov 1
... with ordo /brh /borg.

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:47 PM

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that is not a founding server

stone oriole Dec 12, 2018, 10:48 PM

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killing me softly ... with their stupidity

gloomy oasis Dec 12, 2018, 10:48 PM

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For purposes of upgrades it is.

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:48 PM

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I bet they did not see this ... https://fleetcommandupdate.com/

Star Trek: Fleet Command

Available Now

gloomy oasis Dec 12, 2018, 10:49 PM

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Meanie... we are founders tooo.... generation 2. ^_^

azure holly Dec 12, 2018, 10:53 PM

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This was our merge announcement that was shown on the above website... what was supposed to be a bonus turned into a partial repair bill to fix their screw up!

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woeful lintel Dec 12, 2018, 11:11 PM

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yeah, i'm from a server that started a few weeks before release, but we didn't get the post-release systems and whatnot

exotic vine Dec 12, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Live long, prosper and keep dolling out the cash! lol

maiden kite Dec 13, 2018, 12:43 AM

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@potent cipher @nova sierra hopefully some constructive feedback. I think the new update for us beta server peeps isn’t terrible. The nerfing of warp ranges is irritating but at least now I can mine all three g3 rss and tri. With the reduction in tri costs for building I can at least seem myself leveling up in a month or two. Still very slow but at least it’s not 34 years worth now. I do have a serious question though. Can one of you pm me with a contact person I can send an email to who will actually understand what I’m asking about. I refuse to deal with support tickets anymore as the customer service reps have no idea what they are doing and I do actually have a legitimate query I would very much like an outcome for from someone who understands the game. But yeah, I don’t hate it and at least I have a reason to play again. Some of the research etc actually makes sense now.

naive yoke Dec 13, 2018, 2:40 AM

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It really should not of got to this point... If our feedback was put priority number 1 there would not be these issues...

The 3 biggest complaints I see...

PVP
Warp distance
Resource economy, be it in the form of mining, repair bills, ship downtime, costs to upgrade, lack of reources, size of mines, lack of warp range to find said mines, g3 refine rates, or even the monetary cost of packs in game...

@nova sierra a lot of frustration could be saved if the feedback was priority number 1...

I know it was the aim of the update, but as we discussed, many players feel they have not been listened to since mid November... Which is when I started giving feedback about the garbage new dynamic pvp @potent cipher...

As for all the founders currently complaining about warp range... I think it is pretty obvious that warp range will be part of the Galaxy research... Why not just include the warp range reseach in the update to keep people happy?

Ari ari ari... ve teri meri ek Jindadi... 🖖 🤘
For those who do not understand...
Ari ari ari, besides all our differences... we are one... 🖖 🤘

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 2:54 AM

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HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? 700 3* refined?? My refinery can only do 1750 at lvl 24.... resulting in like 5 refined per day. This needs a serious rebalance! @potent cipher @nova sierra

Plus there’s no way I can mine 3.2M parsteel. The best I can mine is about 4000/hr.

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I’d raid by anyone with a lv 19+ base has 300k defense with no way to attack it

green patio Dec 13, 2018, 2:56 AM

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@nova sierra nice to see they've reduced that, it was 1000 common and 200 uncommon for ops 24 before

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 2:56 AM

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This is for ops 25 heheh

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@green patio even reduced, it’s still absurd

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It wouldn’t be so bad if I could refine more than 1 batch

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Someone here told me i could do that at 24.. but nope...can’t

green patio Dec 13, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Yes 😂 😂 and makes the Vahklas redundant as you need uncommon ore for that too ....

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Bunch of damn idiots planned all this

green patio Dec 13, 2018, 2:58 AM

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We've been trying to tell them that for months 😉

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 2:59 AM

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This will take me 6 months to hit 25

empty scarab Dec 13, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Since you had to spend to reach 24, just open the wallet again

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 3:01 AM

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@empty scarab I refuse to pay 100$ for ONE BUILDING

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The game needs serious rebalancing

empty scarab Dec 13, 2018, 3:02 AM

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I fully agree

solemn heath Dec 13, 2018, 3:18 AM

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What the fuck. My cost to upgrade to ops 25 was 250 uncommon

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Today

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I think it’s time to talk to Apple about refunds. This is bullshit.

empty scarab Dec 13, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Get it while you can lol

exotic vine Dec 13, 2018, 3:20 AM

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@nova sierra You can buy the 3* common with latinum. Ditto for the parsteel. Not ideal, but you have a better chance of saving 100 latinum a day than you do refining 3-4 3* uncommon. The 700x 3* common isn’t the problem. It’s the 80x 3* uncommon,.,

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 3:21 AM

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@exotic vine ya already bought the 3* for 152 lat. it’s still stupid I’m limited to 1 batch of 1750/day

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The refinery needs tweaking big time

exotic vine Dec 13, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Apparently the Refinery expands at Lv26. Not that this helps either of us, as I’m in the same boat as you are (only with 30/80 3* uncommon).

solemn heath Dec 13, 2018, 3:31 AM

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After you upgrade ops 25, you hit the same problem for the research 25 (this time it’s 250 uncommon gas)

tropic crypt Dec 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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How much is 3.2M par steel in latinum? 😂

solemn heath Dec 13, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Email to apple support is sent. We’ll see what they do about it

exotic vine Dec 13, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Um, somewhere around 800 latinum I think.

green patio Dec 13, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I'm focusing on getting the parts for my 3rd Envoy, that way I'll be able to fully maximize my enjoyment of this mining game ............. 🙄

onyx bay Dec 13, 2018, 5:10 AM

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I complained to apple as the ship pack didn’t make it clear that the ship parts being “sold” were 1 *. You had to click on each emblem to see what it was. I felt it deceptive, Apple agreed, and immediately refunded my payment. Scopely support “apologized for the confusion” but didn’t offer my money back. So yah, go to Apple.

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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@onyx bay yeah but then scopely will probably ban you for refunding via Apple

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Most f2p games ban players who refund via Apple or google.

unreal inlet Dec 13, 2018, 5:38 AM

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My refinery does ~80 a day refining 15k of material. 700 doesn’t seem bad

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 6:13 AM

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@unreal inlet when your limited to 1 batch of 1750 it it

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Is

eternal atlas Dec 13, 2018, 6:34 AM

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I'm SO FED UP with my PMs disappearing after 15 minutes.

Thanks for listening

azure holly Dec 13, 2018, 6:48 AM

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@eternal atlas go to the alliance that they belong to, look up player, tap name, then tap chat and it is back.... The other way is if you see them talk in gc

eternal atlas Dec 13, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Today I sent 52 PMs to my own alliance

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And an hours later after a few back and fourths. They were all gone

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I just wanted to see who NEVER replied. But I feel like thats impossible lol

azure holly Dec 13, 2018, 6:54 AM

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If they reply, they appear... Our alliance is larger so I know what it is like to do it

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But same principle applies

unreal inlet Dec 13, 2018, 7:18 AM

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@nova sierra really ? Must be a bug with your account then. That’s a shame i usually hit 15k and get around 40 or 60

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 7:19 AM

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@unreal inlet I’m on a post release server. Dunno if the rules are different

unreal inlet Dec 13, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Maybe that’s why

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 7:24 AM

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So is it better to use 15k ore and get 2 batch at each time or take your time and press 1 bach for 3k at a time, for it seems that i dont get more uncommen but only get to use more ore for less uncommon?

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 8:08 AM

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With 15k and 50k, you sacrifice efficiency for speed. Basically you pay more for a "rush order".

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 8:30 AM

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@nova sierra @unreal inlet you re both talking about different material. G2 allows three options, 3k, 15k and 50k. G3 only 1 of 1750.

paper pike Dec 13, 2018, 1:02 PM

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*** Please report all additional feedback in #🔥-memes-no-talking as this update seems to be one ***

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 1:43 PM

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@nova sierra Even grade 3 is supposed to allow more options at some point

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Still one batch at refinery lvl 25 though

stone oriole Dec 13, 2018, 3:29 PM

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@potent cipher why O PLEASE TELL ME WHY dont u fix the existing problems instead of ADDING CRAPPY stuff and taking away officers, warp ranges ???????????????????????????????

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didnt enough players quit already that u need to push others to quit the game ?

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this just proves again that u are not listening/caring about what people tell you

teal cloak Dec 13, 2018, 3:47 PM

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so many new mines so can we get some new players too?

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 3:52 PM

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@stone oriole G3 was added tot low lvl systems. Don't Panic, with new systems and mines we ll have enough for a while

teal cloak Dec 13, 2018, 3:55 PM

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but i cant even access lixar a g2 place 😄

stone oriole Dec 13, 2018, 3:59 PM

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@nova sierra that still doesnt balance the game tho

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They should focus on the refinery

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Nope, they should focus on improvement mining rates and repair costs

stone oriole Dec 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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I just refined and didnt even get 1 uncommon g2/g3 rss

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these mines are ridiculous

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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At least players could afford to battle each other in a war oriented game

stone oriole Dec 13, 2018, 4:01 PM

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...

teal cloak Dec 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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i get about 1 uncommon batch a week or something like that :p

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still havent since i reached level 23

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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i could make you sick with my inventory screenshot

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shall i?

teal cloak Dec 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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already seen it before

stone oriole Dec 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

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nah its ok

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no need to push me more into quitting 😉

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 4:04 PM

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awww ok so

carmine jay Dec 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Can anyone confirm the pvp levels? I.e I know at level 16 it is +5 up (i.e a level 22 cannot attack me) bit is it +5 at level 20? 30? Any info would be really helpful, thanks

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 4:24 PM

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No idea

manic sundial Dec 13, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Maybe @potent cipher @nova sierra do some fixes &tweaks first before adding things like the packs and stuff

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 4:25 PM

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@stone oriole @potent cipher was hinting at something coming thé next days. Or was that this update @potent cipher ?

green patio Dec 13, 2018, 4:28 PM

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@carmine jay posted somewhere else in this discord today ... search

feral apex Dec 13, 2018, 5:41 PM

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@potent cipher @@nova sierra
No positive changes as far as I can see. We didn't ask for an absurd number of extra mines, the low amount of mines forced us to build coalitions. This crazy amount of mines will cause Farmville. So you removed a big part of fun there.
The amount of resources it takes to upgrade buildings have been somewhat reduced, the cost of upgrading a ship not at all, while the chances of refining g3 uncommon have not been increased... So nothing has been done about the frustration of the antagonizing slow progress.
The enormous reduction of warp range is just absurd!!!
There are hardly any new missions, which you claim to have created, apart from starting your open missions from zero.
We still cannot upgrade any building or ship fast enough without throwing serious cash at it. Which incredibly reinforces the perception of us being cash cows and nothing more...
My first conclusions these last 2 hours is that the pay wall is still as high as it ever was...

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@potent cipher @nova sierra @everyone
No positive changes as far as I can see. We didn't ask for an absurd number of extra mines, the low amount of mines forced us to build coalitions. This crazy amount of mines will cause Farmville. So you removed a big part of fun there.
The amount of resources it takes to upgrade buildings have been somewhat reduced, the cost of upgrading a ship not at all, while the chances of refining g3 uncommon have not been increased... So nothing has been done about the frustration of the antagonizing slow progress.
The enormous reduction of warp range is just absurd!!!
There are hardly any new missions, which you claim to have created, apart from starting your open missions from zero.
We still cannot upgrade any building or ship fast enough without throwing serious cash at it. Which incredibly reinforces the perception of us being cash cows and nothing more...
My first conclusions these last 2 hours is that the pay wall is still as high as it ever was...

manic sundial Dec 13, 2018, 6:03 PM

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I agree about the paywall, the game is out 1 month(and some days) but they already put up packs like its nothing, like the Jelly and also the officer packs, and the jelly seemed a big succes becuase alot of player bought it and paid there way through all the levels, too bad, this game is a harder p2win then Timelines

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But as long people keeps buying packs, upgrades and progress further with real cash nothing will change, that's actually where you can make a change, unfortunately nobody listens

exotic vine Dec 13, 2018, 6:38 PM

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If anything, the paywall has been increased substantially with the warp range nerf. Now you need Faction ships to progress. You simply cannot get to these missions any other way.

feral apex Dec 13, 2018, 6:49 PM

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🇨 🇦 🇱 🇱 ♦ 🇹 🇴 ♦ 🇦 🇨 🇹 🇮 🇴 🇳
CALL TO ALL: LET US STOP BUYING PACKS AS A SIGN OF PROTEST 🖖

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 7:29 PM

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@scopely in general..
I have now a list of 26 quests and I can only reach 4 with my warp 22 range.. And the ones I can access ARE TOO FUCKING HIGH ! CONGRATULATIONS FOR ANOTHER MAJOR FUCK_UP!

dusty violet Dec 13, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Haven't reached the massive paywall. Exactly what is holding back progression? Can you not get the faction ships without a purchase?

flat ivy Dec 13, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@dusty violet
You dont progress at a reasonable pace from 19 onwards, as G2/3/4 mats and requirements need "uncommon", which have a really, really low drop rate when refining.

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You either pay to buy mats, or spend from what some have said, weeks and weeks trying to gain something like 300-500 uncommon, only to upgrade one building to lvl 20.

fathom copper Dec 13, 2018, 7:52 PM

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More mines after update are you ppl retarded or?

nova sierra Dec 13, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Can someone explone to me why my brothers server has lower prices than mine?

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His upbove, mine below

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Im on one of the founder server and he is on the new.

spark flower Dec 13, 2018, 8:26 PM

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There is also a difference between Apple pricing tiers and Google pricing tiers

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Apple gets more money than Google on the Apps and In-app purchases prices

fathom copper Dec 13, 2018, 8:28 PM

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@nova sierra just dont use any money on this game

wraith sluice Dec 13, 2018, 9:34 PM

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So all those upgraded g2 zones, and new g2 zones... Altho i cant seem to find any new g2 crystal zones

wraith sluice Dec 13, 2018, 9:51 PM

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They need to actually finish the game, everything above lvl 30 is dead empty space. But since ppl cant see it, they cant see that they havent finished making all the zones.

dusty violet Dec 13, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Well yeah...this was an early access release. I don't believe they ever stated this was the final build for full release.

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The state of things are to be expected at this point in it's development.

maiden kite Dec 13, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Lmao no it wasn’t. The games been in beta for most of the year. Then it had it’s global release. Supposedly as a full working game lol

azure holly Dec 13, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Actually, first Alpha/beta was in 2017 in Ireland... then closed for 6 months, and play was reset and the 2nd Beta begun mid 2018, the "founding server", was in a closed beta to Irish, Romanian, and Australian players...

iron tapir Dec 14, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I am loving the game so far even with the Bugs and the fixes that didnt fix the bugs. When will there be another way to play the game? Some of the players, like myself, would like to see it on Stream perhaps another platform so we can place from iMac or PC. Any idea on that happening?

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 AM

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@iron tapir I’m guessing you haven’t hit level 20 or the beginning of the massive paywall yet.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 4:03 AM

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@exotic vine I’m 25. I’m just going nice and slow

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You don’t have to pay past 20 if you’re not in a rush

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:20 AM

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There isn’t much of a choice but to go slow after 24, because refining uncommon is a biblical event...

livid vapor Dec 14, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Anyone know how to get a refund from Apple from the game??
I really do enjoy the gaem, yes it's got it bugs but I'm happy playing through those,

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Phone iTunes customer support?

livid vapor Dec 14, 2018, 4:39 AM

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but what has really pissed me off was I had only just spent money buying the $89.99 ship pack to upgrade my ship to get to the level it was, yes i still have the strength, but with the worp that has been cut, I can't get to any of the systems i would like too.
2 ships warp, cut by half, one had 44, now 22, the other had 40, now 20.
And i can understand why they did it yes, and i can carry on from where we are now and just adapt my playing for it.

but another thing that has pissed me is the reset of the missions in my list.
I have a few mining ones, 1 was to mine 250,000 Tritanium, i had reached approx 120-130,000 of that now I have to start all over.
and the other mission 100,000 Dilithium which was very hard to mine becasue had very few spots to do it, also I had mined about 50,000. and have to start all over again

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yea I might have to and try and get all the money back I've spent on the game, or at least the last couple, because what I spent it on has not benefitted me at all, because they've basically taken it all away.

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Being on the founding server it's like we finally get back to a place where we are making headway after the whole Merger fiasco, then going through the global release, we start making headway, then this happens and it screws us all up again.

Let me just say, I totally understand the VERY HARD work that goes into this, and i know it is extremely hard to be under this much pressure with everything that has happened and a very annoyed (to put it lightly) player base to try and please and win over again.

Because I can understand that trying to get the balance back is never going to happen with the difference between higher and lower players.
@potent cipher

remote temple Dec 14, 2018, 5:01 AM

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@livid vapor balance COULD be achieved, by basically freezing out the founding server players (at the point where it will take 7 lifetimes to gather enough rss to upgrade a ship or station). During which time the new players are slowly but surely leveling up and when it gets to the point that most of the new players are level 25+ then there will be another magical update in which all the hi level upgrades will be reduced again and make it achievable by all...
So basically they put the handbrake on us til the noobs can catch up... well thats my conspiracy theory.... so let me just take my foil hat off again now 😃

livid vapor Dec 14, 2018, 5:09 AM

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lol @remote temple it certainly seems that way,
like yes i do think there needs to be the balance given, but more dropping some of the cost and availability of resources and materials, which they have done to an extent, but i haven't had alot of time to figure out what has been fixed and what has not, but from what i have read have had the same issues,
but i do agree that alot of this is players expectations too, where being able to level up quicker to get higher, instead of playing with where they are at.
there are actually lots of games I have played that thing take time, i even have some that you have to wait 2 days cos i'm at a level that needs it, unless you want to pay for it. which is the reason alot of these games exist, not for players enjoyment, but as a money maker,
but they fail o realise that they will make no money if they keep stuffing around their player base.

naive garden Dec 14, 2018, 5:24 AM

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in lords mobile, im at a point shit takes 2-4 weeks or more. but they do have other things to keep you engaged. this game will get there

true wraith Dec 14, 2018, 5:58 AM

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@potent cipher So scopely didn’t live up to their promise this time either (yesterday’s update on the founders servers)... promised us the same game mechanics as on the new servers - but we still can’t really attack other players bases. We still have almost exactly the same old insane difference in base vs ships power. And there still no difference in attacking a base with 1 or 100 ships. Simply doesn’t make any sense...

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 6:59 AM

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@potent cipher
Can't level up to 20.
Server I'm on is so active, I can't get enough parsteel in storage because the minimum for upgrading is 246.8k, max I can have in storage after upgrading everything to 19 is 220k, and my miners aren't even making it to mines before being blown up by people with 45k+ ships.
How am I soppose to progress?

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Can't upgrade ships due to miners being blown up. Completely balanced.

tepid robin Dec 14, 2018, 8:46 AM

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Yeah. We tried attacking a starbase today. Literally wasting our time. The base we attacked has been abandoned for weeks and we still can't make more than a few paint scratches. It's absurd.

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 8:54 AM

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@tepid robin what power is it?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:04 AM

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@flat ivy have your alliance form a hive and take over a system. Kill anyone else who enters your system. It’s much easier to mine when people learn your alliance defends that system

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That’s what we do. Few people enter that system anymore

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:05 AM

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@nova sierra
One player's bought many packs to make his jelly 2/3× higher than everybody else.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:07 AM

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@flat ivy they can’t be in every system every day. Pick a hive location where they usually don’t hunt. Someplace out of the way. What level is this person ?

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:08 AM

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19, same as me.
My base defence is over 200k without ships, so he can't actually take anything, but he's online when I am, so there isn't a lot I can do

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He's paid for the ship.. like, his base is under 115k naked

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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At 19, you can send your 2* miner deep into fed, rom, or Klingon space to mine

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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His jelly can follow. :/

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Send it far where he won’t look

jolly dawn Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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That’s what we did. Took over a small system with tritanium and parsteel and we protect our members mining

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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He can’t find you every day

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:10 AM

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I also need ore for ops 20, and he camps there.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Where’s there?

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There’s TONS of systems with ore

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Currently doska.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Go far away to Klingon or romulan to mine it

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3* ore and crystal there

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:13 AM

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2*

green patio Dec 14, 2018, 9:13 AM

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@flat ivy avoid mining in the hub systems and go to satellite systems

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:13 AM

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Oh 2 is easier

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:14 AM

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Anything lower than warp 20, and the rest of his alliance takes my stuff out with 25-30k jellys.

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It's over 20 where I'm trying to hide, but he finds me every time.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Sorenle in rom space has 2*

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:16 AM

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That's camped. Tried there.

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I've got lists of places to go, but the opposing top alliance is very active. Like the one I'm in.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Are they the top alliance?

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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No. But total power doesn't match average strongest ships.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Usually the strongest people have better ships. My ships beat jellies hands down.

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Jellies are only good until about lvl 22

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Then 3* are better

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:19 AM

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I'm around 360k power, and have nothing over 25k due to jelly packs swarming the server

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:20 AM

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My alliance keeps that in check. Our alliance has 20M power and we blow up those jelly farmers. We raid bases not miners.

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For the most part

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:21 AM

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My alliance is almost 6m power, Vs theirs with less than 4m.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:21 AM

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Form a federation with the top alliances.

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Band together and reign in the farmers.

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I’m in a federation of 3 alliances. We control a whole star cluster.

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Try to organize that if you can

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If a few alliances stick together , you can end that farming

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@nova sierra can you actually turn a profit raiding bases with the repair costs?

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@nova sierra hell yes We raid bases from people who buy packs. 12-20M res per base.

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:24 AM

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@nova sierra
Theirs been a bit of a...um.. huge argument between the two top alliances..

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Was a ceasefire, but one side didn't follow it, and ended up a big catfight..

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nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Repair costs are like 11k per repair on my 3* and I rake in millions of trit and dilithium per base

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:25 AM

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Might not seem like much to you.. but like.. it's early..

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:26 AM

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My server is only 2 weeks old

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That’s my server after 12 days

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Awch..

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:26 AM

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flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:27 AM

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Third place in our alliance leaderboard is less than 500k.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Our server is the whale server

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80% of the players shell out bucks there

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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I'm pretty sure everybody in our two alliances shells out a little. But not heaps.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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@flat ivy try to help solve that argument and try to band together. That’s about the best thing you can do.

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Awesome.

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Go for the common enemy

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Anyway zzzz time

flat ivy Dec 14, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Okie. Night

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 PM

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On my server we have two players that are harassing and bullying other people. In global chat people are complaining about them, they respond to global chat saying that they don't care... What can we do here? Community on my server is getting upset. In the last 2 hours they destroyes my miners 10 times, I do get the game and PvP and stuff but this is getting out of hand

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Only 2 players, you should be so lucky... Pretty sure if they’re just shooting your ships that doesn’t constitute bullying or harassment.

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@strange merlin The PVP is disgusting... Like others I have been forced to try and get the top alliances to have a ceasefire with me just to not be raided by the space whale trolls that inhabit the darkest sectors of space...

So far it has been working, the more eyes helping each other the better... Once you get to level 18 you are just a resource slave for the big whales...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:32 PM

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As I see they jump into system and blast everyones miners. And 20 minutes later again, and again and again. They don't attach ships, they attack defencless miners and most of the time miner don't have any loot, they destroy miner "just for fun"

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:32 PM

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I wonder if you’re on my server. Who’s the offending alliance?

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I don't think the alliance is to blame, it is the individuals, they are both from a different alliance

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again, he destroyed my miner again...

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and they are both lvl 14 and you would think they plan going lvl 15 but nope, the community would blow theyr stations off the map

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:38 PM

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So bait them and kill their ships.

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:39 PM

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I am actually doing that right now, but it wont change a bit, They will repair their ships and return to terror miners

manic sundial Dec 14, 2018, 4:41 PM

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let me guess they have a jelly

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:41 PM

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one does, the other has a talla, and I can take on talla but not jelly

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:42 PM

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@strange merlin yup happens everywhere, it gets worse when you reach level 18 and your base can be raided by a miner... Taking millions of resources within and hour...

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Those who want to mine are punished...

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Because of the slow rates, and being easy targets...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Don't get me wrong, but pissing community off constantly again and again is not in a spirit of Star Trak. I do get PvP and it is OK but THIS is getting out of hand, this is anarchy and you can't touch then until they go lvl 15 and they are not gonna go lvl 15 any time soon

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Yeah, it starts off bad... and just gets worse 😰

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Devs have to be smarter than this, two individual players are gonna make 100 players quit

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Level 30s who raid only mine to goad their targets into a revenge hit, just so they can send in a miner and take 1-2m of resources in one hit...

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1 individual has done worse than that since the start of November alone...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Ok, attacking miners with loot, I get that, but the miners have no loot, it is all still in the protected cargo, they are not getting any loot, just pissing people off

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:47 PM

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i was part of the pre alpha testers

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Yup attacking empty miners for a loot box...

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it's a waste of repair costs if you do it too often...

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And dont get a box...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:48 PM

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I don't know... they are harassing people and global chat is angry... devs have to do something

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I agree

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Same in my server

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:49 PM

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😦

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:50 PM

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The PVP changed in mid November to a harsher one... Called new dynamic pvp... this is the mess it has created...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:51 PM

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There has to be a cooldown timer or something, they can't be allowed to kill my miners 10 times in 1 hour

exotic vine Dec 14, 2018, 4:52 PM

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I guess when enough players get pissed off enough they’ll finally drop some 💵 on a few packs so they can stand up to these bullies. Sounds like something Scopely would endorse.

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Whole galaxies have to give up on their individual alliance beefs just to stand up to a handful of players... Just so they can mine without being raided....

So much of the game has been nerfed since September... It just makes it too hard for the average player to progress... Then these raiders come along and zero them... Just disgusting...

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Thanks for the chat guys, I guess it is what it is for now..... :/ Untill people start leaving the game and devs find a way to ban harassment. As I said some PvP is fine, but killing my miners 10 times in 1 hour is just not acceptable it is embarrassing for the game and for the Star Trek brand

naive yoke Dec 14, 2018, 4:56 PM

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All we can do is continue to make noise about it... Die hard Trekkies die hard... 🖖

strange merlin Dec 14, 2018, 4:57 PM

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🖖

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Apple just refunded me my $2000 for this game and is considering removing it from the App Store as they don’t allow alpha/beta software.

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Was it the first time you’ve attempted to refund on anything?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 7:41 PM

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@carmine jay first time for major purchases like this yes

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But I’ve refunded b4 when a nephew bangedd up charges

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 7:42 PM

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K, I’ve had a similar propel before (Star Wars galaxies at launch) but I have been told by apple the generally they only do a full refund once per acccount

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*problem

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And out of interest, what level did 2k get you? 😃

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Founder though?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 7:43 PM

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25 almost 26. No started 2 weeks ago

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Ah k, thanks

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Well, be prepared they may close your account

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But I’m assuming you are done anyway?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Idc if they do. I’ll keep playing till they do/if they do

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 7:45 PM

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Yeah, fair enough

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What was/is your major gripe about the game?

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And what did you tell apple?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 7:45 PM

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Going from 26-27 would cost like 800$ screw that. W/o paying that’d take a year

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Told Apple the truth. Officers broken. Pvp broken. Listed everything

carmine jay Dec 14, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Well, sorry to hear that. It’s definitely worth checking out discord’s and reddit before heavily investing these days

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I was a heavy game of war player so I knew what to expect. Agee things should work tho. Not acceptable

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Last question 😂.. which serve are you on? (Highest power alliance )

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*server

shell epoch Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 PM

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2k

dusty hedge Dec 14, 2018, 8:11 PM

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For all those whose mission progress was reset. Customer service response is basically "tough shit". I hope the game gets pulled by Apple. @nova sierra

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"Changing the game to provide the best Star Trek experience ". @potent cipher your CSR's make me want to vomit...

odd wasp Dec 14, 2018, 8:24 PM

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Sent a ticket to get my rare uhura back, they basically told me I lied and that I had never unlocked her... already leveled to lvl 5 a lot stronger then the other rare unlocked crew...

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Sent them proof back that I had her as captain on my Jelly... see how that goes

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But getting sic of this...

dusty hedge Dec 14, 2018, 8:26 PM

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30 day shield for me from tonight. Come back for a brief look then. No point wasting any more time on this turd. It's now simply a mining game. Nothing else.

manic sundial Dec 14, 2018, 8:34 PM

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@nova sierra nice, that will show them

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@odd wasp When did you created this ticket?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 8:40 PM

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I hope they get the message to fix crap

manic sundial Dec 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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depends how big the playerbase is

odd wasp Dec 14, 2018, 8:46 PM

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@manic sundial This very morning, and got reply right now, and sent my reply at once

manic sundial Dec 14, 2018, 8:47 PM

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okay, well scopely said they will return back and will give your uhura back

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let's see if i can find it

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It was about the shards right @odd wasp

odd wasp Dec 14, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Yes it was @manic sundial

manic sundial Dec 14, 2018, 9:07 PM

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okay

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there's been a slight misunderstanding from required shards to unlock her. it's now adressed. Support will reach out again to solve accordingly

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this is what scopely said in the bug-reporting thread

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#👾-bug-reporting

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 10:51 PM

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@dusty hedge look familiar? Typical Scopely copy paste answer...

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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They should auto complete those missions for you

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Don't worry, I have asked yet again!

dusty hedge Dec 14, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Haha! Lol. Fucken unbelievable!!!

dusty hedge Dec 14, 2018, 11:17 PM

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@potent cipher this kind of rubbish, that @azure holly and me received is why we have zero faith in your CSR's. It's just a waste of time dealing with them tbh.

To say it is fair and all players are "swept of their feet" is simply a bullshit reply.

A lot of people have spent weeks (and some, money) to get to certain points in the missions.

And your CSR's just brush it off with generic replies when it is all lost?? You want feedback?? Fix shit like this!!

livid vapor Dec 14, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Yea like I lost months of mining for both of these missions, I was about 3/4s the way through both of these, now to only have to start again

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@potent cipher

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And also lost access to Uhura

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odd berry Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 PM

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i have acces but just cant upgrade her anymore

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also i have trouble compleeting this mission. This could have been fixed alraidy. simce update yestoday.

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azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 PM

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That last screenshot @odd berry looks all too familiar... Been looking for a month on how to complete it...

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dusty hedge Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 PM

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For lolz, send it to CSR's again to receive the cut/copy message again! 😂😂

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 PM

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@odd berry support will complete lost Horizons for you

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@azure holly

odd berry Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 PM

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i am waiting for 28 hours now on uhura now @nova sierra support is realy tereble

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 PM

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@odd berry it took them 36 to complete it for me

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 PM

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36 minutes, hours, days?

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Hrs

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 PM

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I've had them take over 3 weeks and 14 different staff before I could get one problem solved in the past...

gloomy oasis Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 PM

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I think it depends on the volume of ticket* requests they get.

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And the last few days with the updates... i think 2-4 days for a ticket is likely.

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Maybe... or phillipines more likely.

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 PM

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I hear that one guy is still waiting for an answer and he's been waiting for over 6 weeks and they're citing "please be patient, we have not forgotten about you..." BS

gloomy oasis Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 PM

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👋

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I am in the same boat. Waiting for an update on the missing private messages.

azure holly Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 PM

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The McScrooge department, not customer service...

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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If you delete and reinstall the game private messages should come back

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@gloomy oasis

gloomy oasis Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Believe me they do not. ^_^

nova sierra Dec 14, 2018, 11:57 PM

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That’s weird. The server is supposed to have a copy. They are probably lost for good then

gloomy oasis Dec 15, 2018, 12:03 AM

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Not if i click the person i was talking to ^_^

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It's more.like they are invisible. ^_^ than deleted.

azure holly Dec 15, 2018, 12:43 AM

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They're still there ... if they're in an alliance, then view the alliance members , tap their name, and tap chat ... presto, you will see the chat

gloomy oasis Dec 15, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Yea.... but i am recruiter/ leader on two alliances. On.. both having 30-40 convoes... at any time.

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There comes a pioint where it's simpler to just go hi... do you have discord?

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Point*

shell epoch Dec 15, 2018, 1:16 AM

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sounds like alot

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do you breath during it?

dim prawn Dec 15, 2018, 1:23 AM

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@gloomy oasis I reported the PM bug over 3 weeks ago and have re-sent a reminder recently. They are 'working on it', like with everything else.

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Also it sounds like your servers need to set up a joint discord between the top alliances.

gloomy oasis Dec 15, 2018, 1:25 AM

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We have a discord for anyone who wants to join. ^_^ we ended up with people from like 5 servers.

dim prawn Dec 15, 2018, 1:26 AM

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I would suggest limiting it to officers from top 5 or top 10 alliances only

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Depending on server maturity

gloomy oasis Dec 15, 2018, 1:26 AM

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Also... first time i send that bug report was 3'rd of nov. ^_^

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Ohhh i think we have like 200 people on the server. ^_^

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Maybe 300. ^_^

dim prawn Dec 15, 2018, 1:28 AM

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If you have 50 people in your alliance on a server of 300, I can't imagine you would need anything outside AC and GC lol

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Better to find your own way to make the game entertaining and work around bugs right now, because waiting and hoping for Scopely to fix things in a timely manner is pointless.

manic sundial Dec 15, 2018, 2:02 AM

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omg bought a €21,99 pack and it immediately goes up to €54,99, and the €21,99 ship pack is gone last time I bought a pack, bunch of money grabbers

naive yoke Dec 15, 2018, 2:57 AM

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@manic sundial worst payment system ever... So classist...

manic sundial Dec 15, 2018, 3:06 AM

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This just shows they want you to pay more

prime ridge Dec 15, 2018, 4:27 AM

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@potent cipher are refineries working correctly that charge 5X ore for only 2X refines? That has to be a bug right?

compact whale Dec 15, 2018, 5:36 AM

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No sneaker it’s designed like it. Old server used to be 16 x cost for double bath

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 5:37 AM

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This is simply your choice as whether you sacrifice efficiency for higher production or not.

carmine jay Dec 15, 2018, 6:45 AM

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@prime ridge yeah, i busted my balls the first few days doing 50k refinines thinking its best, but it definitely is not. Scam is a strong word but thats how i feel about refining after wasting 3x50 to get 8 uncommon,

Just do the 3k refine every 10 hrs.

prime ridge Dec 15, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Why would they even think that was right. I was holding it’s just a little big and they would fix it later

carmine jay Dec 15, 2018, 7:00 AM

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Well, at early levels you can only refine once every 10 hours. You are basically paying that (massive) premium for the pleasure of refining twice (15k) or three times (50k) in same period, i thought 15 and 50k had better rng for uncommom, but it doesnt. I do feel robbed on that one.

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But it was only a couple of days of my life, lol

green patio Dec 15, 2018, 7:02 AM

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It's in line with all other features in the game, there just to fuck you over .... if you find something that doesn't please report it on here so they can remove it in the next update

odd wasp Dec 15, 2018, 11:30 AM

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@manic sundial several in my alliance has got the shards they need for Uhura back, I have gotten no response at all from scopely. I scencing shitface-factor here...

vagrant creek Dec 15, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Refines been good to me lately, hitting 18x g3 gas and 9x ore every time..

supple bluff Dec 15, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Read between the lines of this copy and paste reply from Scopely Customer nonSupport.

Why do ALL servers have to have the same warp parameters UNLESS the long term plan is to merge servers @potent cipher and @nova sierra

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Here is an analagy for you @potent cipher and @@nova sierra

You buy a car. Let's call it a PICARD. Over a two year period you add certain options to your PICARD including a modification that makes it go twice the distance on a tank of fuel. You get these options awarded to you by doing certain tasks that the dealership sets. Then one day you take it to the dealer for servicing. Without any notice to you, the dealer removes ALL the options using the excuse "We needed to make your Picard the same as all the other Picards.

How would you feel?

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Like I should have bought a Skywalker?

compact whale Dec 15, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Refine results definitely improve as the refinery level goes up

vagrant creek Dec 15, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Astril ive been rolling 18x gas and ore lately

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 2:43 PM

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@supple bluff maybe to make sure everyone has thé same? So noone can complain, as for instance on thé different maps... Thé reduced warp Came with that map.

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 4:14 PM

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A few days after update I can‘t help myself, but it‘s completely boring now. Mining, mining, mining....
No new missions, nothing to do, just send ships every 4 hours to another mine...

Shame on Devs 😡

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 5:03 PM

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@nova sierra What did you do before?

exotic vine Dec 15, 2018, 5:06 PM

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Probably mining...

nova sierra Dec 15, 2018, 5:14 PM

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6ths day of 3* refining. Zero uncommon. Stupid.

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When you need 40 for ONE ship component , that’s broken

regal sleet Dec 15, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Need to upgrade refinery, seems there’s better results for uncommon as the level goes up.

exotic vine Dec 15, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Yeah, I hear it gets better at Refinery 26. Except you can’t get there without the uncommon materials. Catch-22 and working as intended.💰

naive yoke Dec 15, 2018, 7:40 PM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher

The PVP system is broken...

Unless the level 32 is a xenophobic misogynistic asshole you are just food for the space whales...

I mean its a little challenging rooting out all the racists, but it's not really a challenge at all because their intelligence levels aren't much better than the average sheep...

naive yoke Dec 15, 2018, 10:48 PM

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A couple of high level players joined the troll... finding out that my station is bait for the troll in the process... left at the protected limit... Just so I can keep hitting a level 32 without bother...

naive yoke Dec 15, 2018, 11:54 PM

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I mean it's entertaining me and a lot of people with debts the troll has to pay... But for those who do not share my sense of humour or have not done anything it would be very annoying....

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:35 AM

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Refinery is definitely the biggest complaint I see people have. There shouldn't be a 10 hour timer on it. Maybe 1-3 hours, but not 10. It already takes 1.6 hours just to get 3k 2 star materials, and 4.4 hours to get 3k 3 star materials. That's not including time spent traveling to/from location, and having to do it multiple times since you're likely to get attacked. Having it cost 15k instead of 6-10k for 2 batches is stupid as well. I can understand maybe cost it an extra batch worth or so, but not 3 extra batches. That means 22.2 hours for 15k 3 star and 8.3 hours for 2 star. All of this isn't even talking about how you need to do it for 3 different types, so really 66.6 hours for 3 star and 24.9 hours for 2 star. Should I even delve into the ratios of what you OUT of refining the ore? 15k 2 star usually results in about 120-160 uncommon refined (a 93.75:1 ratio). For ONE of my Talla's T3 upgrades, I need 575 2* uncommon ore. That's about 54k ore at the 93.75:1 ratio, or 30 hours of constantly mining (again, not including time spent going to/from, repair times due to being pvp'd, etc)

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:44 AM

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And the Jelly is a paperweight when fully upgraded compared to a 40k Vahklas...

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:44 AM

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sec, addressing that

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2nd being the PvP system and how P2W heavily affects it. Normaly P2W wouldn't be so bad, but with the recent jelly event that's what is causing so much annoyance with p2w. Normally for you to have such a high powered ship, you would have to have a lot of your buildings upgraded which would put you into an area where the jelly would be such a pain in the dick to players. It's ONLY obtainable via f2p by higher level players, since the missions that give jellyfish shards have via high power NPCs in them. I'm a level 14 (and have a high power level compared to other f2p lvl 14s) and I still can't defeat the 18k power NPC that I have to kill that would give me ONE jellyfish shard for completing the mission. Making such a ship purchasable at such a low level gave a STUPID advantage over other people who couldn't or didn't want to pay for it. I saw level 9 and 10s flying around with it, and they had it at ~20k power. That's almost 10x the power level of the ships I remember having at that level

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Had to post it in separate messages cause it was too long lol

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Basically: Yes the jellyfish is a paperweight when fully upgraded compared to a Vahklas... but what level do you have to be to have a Vahklas, and what level do you have to be to have a jellyfish?

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You need AT LEAST a shipyard 23 for a Vahklas. That means a 23 Operations, so you'd be at least level 23. Meanwhile, people were getting the jellyfish as early as (if not earlier than) level 9. That's not right.

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 2:52 AM

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at such high lvls you just cant progress anymore

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im at 23 and have no way of getting further

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Mainly because of the refinery, from what I understand. The ratio is very unfair, especially considering the amount of time required in between each batch

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 2:53 AM

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not even that

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parsteel and tritanium are just so hard to get

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i cant raid stations since the lowest i can raid is 17

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and they have like 100k+ defenses

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while i can only carry like 15k every time i attack

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my kehra is only 65k strength too

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:54 AM

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For non-refinery resources (parsteel, trit, dilit), I always farm NPCs

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 2:54 AM

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and no fking way my envoy does it

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ye i have the most npc dmg of my entire server

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I can get 8320 trit in like 20 or 30 mins by killing level 11-13 NPCs :p

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 2:56 AM

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i need like 50k per upgrade

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Which yea at 23 probably isn't much, but there's I imagine the NPCs drop more (probably not at a fair ratio though) at a higher level

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 2:56 AM

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and 400k for the ships

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parsteel i need millions of

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i cant kill npc around my lvl

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the cost to repair is too high

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my ships been staying docked for a while

manic sundial Dec 16, 2018, 3:11 AM

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I really understand microtransactions in a game, but some games, especially this one has a high paywall, you want proper progress, pay your way through it, there is already someone with 1M power on my (new/release)server, and ofc he did this by paying his way through

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 3:20 AM

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But with most of them, they get increased to a level where they don't affect many people... really only other P2W players. Jellyfish on the other hand... very very stupid event

sick gorge Dec 16, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Why?

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I got mine without even having to pay anything.

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 5:02 AM

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What level were you when you got it?

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@sick gorge

tepid robin Dec 16, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Refinery doesn't help, and it should be a simple priority to fix imo. However, I think making the miners a bit tougher would go a long way to improving general gameplay. If a ship has to return to base after hitting one or two miners then the whole problem with dozens of players sweeping the galaxy will slow down considerably. This is by far the biggest problem in the game. The poor refining rates compounds the problem., Fixing refining will only make it better for miner harvesting and we can't have that without making miner harvesting a lot harder.

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IRL if miners were being hit this hard, they'd be using hardcore armour and shields. It honestly shouldn't be easy to hit miners. The rewards are too good. There should be a cost for that, time wise as well as resources. In real life if your mine is going to get over-under by raiders every two hours you're going to invest heavily in defense. And the cost of your product will be extremely high. This part of the game is quite frankly, absurd and if you can nerf warp ranges that easily you can double the defense of envoys and fortunates with the next update, which I recommend you do very soon before you lose all the new players who are trialing this game out over Christmas.

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It's a matter of urgency for you @potent cipher . If you don't want this game to fail you need to address these things urgently:

Miner defense
Refining rates
Obnoxious behaviour in chat
Prohibitively increasing rates of transactions
Reduce the effectiveness of Starbase defenses.

This last is important. An alliance should be able to take down a starbase of equivalent level without too much effort. As of now it takes an alliance of 5 to 6 to even consider taking down a starbase. We know, because we've had literally one destroyed in our server in the last month, and it wiped out everyone so hard they're reluctant to gang up and do it again. I don't understand this at all. Sure, they shouldn't be easy peasy, but it shouldn't cost thousands of dollars to achieve. It isn't even forever anyway.

formal patrol Dec 16, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Eh a higher protected cargo for miners would be a better way to do it imo

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and that's coming from me... I farm miners who have resources I can gain :p

tepid robin Dec 16, 2018, 5:53 AM

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That wouldn't stop the sociopaths who hit miners for fun. What you need is better defenses

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Nothing wrong with refining lol

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shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 6:57 AM

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what lvl is your OP

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 7:00 AM

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24 but refinery is 23

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Thanks to all these stupid building reqs

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Build like six buildings before upgrade, tis a stupid system

tepid robin Dec 16, 2018, 7:17 AM

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You're lucky. In my server the difficulty is getting resources back to base. We don't even know how bad refining is because we simply don't have enough to refine at decent rates.

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Didn't help that the server update stole all my dilithium and tritanium to zero so I don't have any of that either.

sick gorge Dec 16, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Wait, there are different servers?

shell epoch Dec 16, 2018, 7:32 AM

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i have not gotten uncommon for 20 days straight

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 7:46 AM

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Rory there are several

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Guess im just lucky then 😦

hot glen Dec 16, 2018, 9:03 AM

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Srsly... your refinery is 23 and you get 21 uncommon from 1 batch ?!

fathom copper Dec 16, 2018, 9:04 AM

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drop rate on chest are a joke

hot glen Dec 16, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Well my refinery is 23 and my oc is 24. But highest uncommon yield I can get from 1 chest is 7... so wtf...

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So there are 2 options then, either they run multiple builds on diffrent servers still and use us as labrats still or @vagrant creek isnt telling the truth

sterile sentinel Dec 16, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Did I just see 4 rare crystals @hot glen 🤤

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Oh, that's just the refining chance...all good lol

hot glen Dec 16, 2018, 9:17 AM

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lol

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 10:10 AM

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@hot glen he prob has thé options tot do 12k batches or he shows thé result of refining 2* material when u show 3* refining odds

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I think it s thé second option

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 10:12 AM

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Ss clearly shows 3 not 2 lol

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U should see what my alliance member had

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Rare gas is 3*, yes... My baf

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Still, weird result

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I refined 18 uncommon G3 ore with 12k batch today

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Level 27

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 10:15 AM

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That s normal

hot glen Dec 16, 2018, 10:15 AM

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But point is he said the refinery is lvl 23, same as mine 😛

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 10:15 AM

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I had 18 uncommon Ore today, lvl 26 ops and 25 refinery

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Using a 12k batch u can get that result at that lvl 27

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 10:17 AM

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Luck be with me lately, hopin next batch is good

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Youd all be jealous of my g3 stash lol

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Doubtfull @vagrant creek

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Wel the ones complaining bout not being able to mine it lol

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 11:24 AM

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True that @vagrant creek . I m now at thé Point i start tot get thé stuff i need

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Nearly reached mill raw g3 gas, few hundred k crys n ore lol

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Dont have to mine apart from daily goals and trit n par

carmine jay Dec 16, 2018, 11:33 AM

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@vagrant creek which refining option would you recommender for a noob? Just do the single?

green patio Dec 16, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Yes

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 11:42 AM

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Yes

carmine jay Dec 16, 2018, 12:23 PM

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Thx

nova sierra Dec 16, 2018, 1:11 PM

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@hot glen Kitiara is a scopely apologist and a troll. Just block her and the conversation flows so much better.👌

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:19 PM

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How is it trolling just because i proved you wrong several times?

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You say everything they do is a cash grab apparenly its impossible tp get enough uncommons to level up but several people besides myself are doing it.. guess theyre also trolls and scopely apologists ayy

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But yeah keep insulting me and disrespecting the game devs and support staff, if u hate things u can always quit lol

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Ill just keep playing the game, mining and refining, upgrading and having fun

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:28 PM

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@nova sierra kit is just someone who wants the best for the game... Its ok to still have hope... But I know how easy it to see anything remotely positive about this game as anything but shilling...

But he comes from an honest perspective...

Just more optimistic than you or I...

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:29 PM

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And yet everytime they do something dys doesnt like its a blatant cash grab

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Oh no they didnt do an officer event for three days... cash grab

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Warp is nerfed... cash grab

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:30 PM

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People have a right to be angry... I mean they obviously got a Ferengi to design the pricing system lol

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Im not arguing that moc

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Yeah I know anger can get you to places you shouldn't... rarely does it work out well...

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:31 PM

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But getting called an apologist just because i have proved him wrong on things he said and im a troll? Lol..

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Ive helped out many people here btw, what help has he provided?

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:32 PM

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It will happen... Just gotta let it slide... Scopelys support is non existant... helping people is a political nightmare as a result... @nova sierra @potent cipher

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:33 PM

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Ive also spent a great deal time conversing with lead cs reps etc, passing along bugs, suggustions on improvements etc

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Same here... Only to be fobbed off... And I have experience on both sides of the gaming industry... So I know where you are coming from...

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:35 PM

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I genuinely feel sorry as someone who used to work in a cs role myself having to cop constant abuse while the few helpful people are drowned out or called shills must be rough

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:35 PM

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I agree... But it isn't like Scopely trained them enough to deal with BETA problems and development plans...

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:36 PM

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@vagrant creek you're fine, these people are sometimes whiners who just want someone to listen to them.

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:36 PM

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You can thank the people flooding hundreds of tickets and getting lost or assigned to the newly hired personnel for that moc

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:36 PM

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A simple road map or dev plan would save a lot of arguing...

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:37 PM

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I disagree with that, MOC.

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:37 PM

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All these complaints about warp range wouldn't exist for example...

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Doesn't matter what they give you when you're determined to be upset.

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:38 PM

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I got some excellent emails from them actually but why bother sharing when im called a liar, a troll and a shill?

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Oh there will always be a mix of hate born from hate and general frustration with the process... Some people are happy to build something, others just want it all now or nothing at all... can't please em all..

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Exactly. And you are one of those people who will never be pleased.

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Dont share them... keep conversing with the excellent support you have found instead of those on here...

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You will get more work for the good of the game done...

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:40 PM

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That was my intention

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:40 PM

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@vagrant creek for what it's worth, I've appreciated your contributions here.

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Thank u spacedoggo

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While i was angry about the warp myself, making all servers same makes sense

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:41 PM

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It does, though I do wish they had been more careful to warn people.

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:41 PM

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Lot easier for updates etc but they could put some thought into fixing missions etc first

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:42 PM

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True, but I think this was a good priority to have, tbh. The mines and systems are great to have, and have reduced the number of times I've died lately.

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:42 PM

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@woeful lintel I know I have annoyed ya in the past... By I am a mere frustrated trekkie...

I agree with you, there needs to be a balance, hence I have called for moderation to put an end to the petty arguing over opinions... But alas, we haven't seen that yet...

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:43 PM

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I think they did hint it but jb doesnt seem like hes is exactly informed on whatever is happening.. no offense meant btw

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:43 PM

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I know what you mean, I just find it hard to deal with constant negativity with a focus on the past.

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Nah, I don't think he is. But that's ok, because I'm pretty sure his primary job is to try to keep us in line and act as a go between.

vagrant creek Dec 16, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Exactly

naive yoke Dec 16, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Yeah Q2 seems to be more connected and on the ball...

woeful lintel Dec 16, 2018, 2:44 PM

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He has gotten some good info for us, and I worked out the formula for what level can attack what.

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I think Q2 has more playing experience.

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JB will get there, I'm sure.