💬-general-feedback

[grave quest]

it was recognized as having a fair balance between pay to win and f2p tasks. loved? maybe in IRS 😜😂 But it was mostly fair!! that is the difference and it is a huge one

[old walrus]

I just keep having that clip of the President/GM's video over and over in my head.. "We hear you, we will do better....." 😄 I didn't realize that he was mocking us at the time!

[foggy elm]

Well... The mods are here since they are taking down posts yet staying silent.

[ebon merlin]

with the killing of the alliance tournament it is the next step into leaving the game for many player , this arc succs everywhere , Cota gone, Officer requiering deleted , battle pass nerfed, lesslie killed ... If you don t have things that make fun, why play it ??

[timid topaz]

just a quick SS from my alliance chat for your edification STFC

[plush geyser]

primes, officers, ships mats and unlocks for free. We loved it

[final kiln]

Oh no, I meant lower ops players. They mostly don't like it because so few of the tasks are doable at that level.

[silk loom]

No not "universally liked" Scopely hated that they created an event players could master without spending. So they'll take it away and make it cost $100 dollar packs galore.

[plush geyser]

im F2p and maxed my points every time as of late.

[lofty musk]

What they fail to realize is there are people who do spend monthly but not like a whale. When you squeeze those people they don’t convert to whales they stop spending entirely. Thats who’s making up the bulk of the player base.

[plush geyser]

enough ways to score with no money. now all the big tasks are just buy this, buy that

[fathom hamlet]

100% Agree with you, Scopely 100% does not care about any of it

[timid topaz]

@lofty musk Yup I used to get a battle pass for the choice rewards to get better rss but now its not going to happen in fact I doubt I will spend a single penny more on this game

[grave quest]

to be fair, mods are here to make sure the local rules are followed and not to be the mouth pieces of brokely. that’s hams job and i guess he is awol

[tacit bobcat]

Say it's ptw without saying it's ptw...

[plush geyser]

I've been temped by the BP with choice tokens, now i dont see any point

[eternal plover]

They know the game is failing...they're just trying to squeeze every cent they can before it crashes and burns

[mental minnow]

can you give us a specific date when the going out of business sales starts?

[quick gale]

Goodbye everyone, fed up of this rubbish. Making events so f2p cannot complete is not good so I will just delete now. How have I survived this long

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-holmes-now-firm-grasp-obvious-gif-25345453

[rare vale]

Have you not seen the AT? Today is that day.

[lofty patio]

The next ones from our ally have quit the game
Seems that is the policy, cause we rest dhould bring tbem back

[analog crystal]

Not really sure if it is particularly helpful to turn a tone deaf ear to legitimate concern.

What is your job here, again?

[timber root]

I'm generally supportive of you CMs because that's honestly an awful job, but if all you can do is troll the community you need to stop.

[timid topaz]

just put this in our alliace chat cant wait to see what the replys are perhaps we could move en block lol

[silk loom]

And you as a community manager are just full of jokes that just make the distaste in players mouths even worse.

Maybe it's time you step down and find something else to do instead of adding insult to injury to your player base.

[narrow loom]

8 reroll tokens/day;... It used to be 12 AND got more from 10k tasks...
I know you need to make money, but diluting the 10k tasks that f2p can do while making them harder to get the f2p ones to come up...
And you want players to stay engaged and participating...
This is a legitmaate question I have, and not a troll... Are you TRYING to make the game fail?

[worn gull]

This is not a good look. At all.

[alpine condor]

<@&509690795536941056> you are trying desperately to get players that quit to come back… better idea, quit throwing garbage content at the current players to make them leave. It’s easier to keep players here than it is to get people tired of your BS to come back.

[static hornet]

I miss @tidal notch 🙁

[round finch]

the scopely business model for years has been attracting new players, not so much with retaining current ones

[muted shuttle]

Have you quit as well.

[quaint granite]

Seriously? Is this how you react to players?

[coarse kite]

I think it is time to just accept this for what is is, there is no way whoever is in charge is this stupid. This has to be intentual to kill this game for contract reasons or whatever. They lost too many of the big spenders and now they want to move on.

[timid topaz]

@raw fiber I hope your actually on the phone to scopley with "hey you guys really messed up you gotta get in here and look at the discord its BAAAAADDDDDD!"

[loud hare]

100%….i haven’t spent in the last two arcs, and I wont so long as performance and stability sucks…and i wont spend so long as Scopley is nerfing all the f2p content. Guess i will be a forever 71

[sinful idol]

Pathetic response, imagine not caring that the people responsible for you even having a job because we play this game and pay for everything are about to quit the game entirely. Incredible. "original message deleted", screenshots live forever.

[raw fiber]

We are actively sharing your inputs to the team

[astral grail]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-gif-24824538

[worn gull]

What they did to Incursions and AT plus a freaking Academy arc? Three strikes in a damned row.

[last bay]

Does anybody know what the name of the system you start in is called

[pearl monolith]

Obviously not quick enough 🤦‍♂️

[plush geyser]

yes sir, you were right all the poors hate the event. Yes, profits are still up, i'll keep trolling sir, bye

[vague grotto]

Maybe want to look at the trustpilot reviews too, there building up

[static hornet]

System Housing: quit and save yourself money, run, run as fast as you can

[worn gull]

@raw fiber we won't forget this. Resign.

[raw fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-the-only-thing-that-matters-to-me-lucifer-morningstar-tom-ellis-lucifer-i-care-for-you-gif-18407070

[sinful idol]

We're not gonna act like this didn't happen.

[final kiln]

Why aren't they listening though? I genuinely do not understand how they can make SO MANY horrible decisions in a row 🙁

[mossy sparrow]

What the actual lord are these tasks . Scopely really lost their little 🧠 ..

[last bay]

Money isn’t a problem for me

[silk loom]

The game is failing because of their actions... And they don't see it, or maybe they do and have zero moral compass and will keep selling packs up to the last minute of the game.

[plush geyser]

i knew as soon as i hear DJz talking about how "bad" AT is now, scopely was planning to really REALLY ruin it

[marsh cobalt]

Schaufelt nur weiter an eurem eigenen Grab

[last bay]

Can somebody tell me what the starting system is?

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/act-like-it-shea-brennan-sam-elliott-1883-act-like-one-gif-24361648

[last bay]

I hate having to wait a couple days to restart because I traveled too far away and clicked the wrong button

[raw fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/حضن-بو-gif-873756486592965272

[fossil sable]

Wow. You have officially ruined my favorite part of the game… the AT. Good going, Scopely.

[last bay]

What exactly are they doing that screwing a lot of people over

[static hornet]

Please stop sharing gifs, everyone is disappointed enough with the changes, they don't blame the community managers for it but gifs like that are a middle finger to the people who trust you to be their voice of reason to the fat cats in charge.

As soon as you lose respect from the community, you cannot manage the community.

I think you're genuinely helpful and know this is tough right now but please don't make it worse 😅

[last bay]

Sorry, I haven’t been online in a long time

[alpine condor]

There you go, continuing to prove why your player base is fleeing in droves. If you can’t provide actual feedback then you should just continue to ignore us entirely

[last bay]

So I don’t really know what’s going on can somebody fill me in?

[torpid shard]

Id rather trust actual lucifer then scopley

[weary elm]

https://tenor.com/view/tone-deaf-tonedeaf-funny-gold-suit-tonedeaftm-youtube-neomikey-gif-5684772289727215309

[brisk ibex]

Way way way to much to easily cover,

[last bay]

I take it. The game is going through some major changes.

[devout dragon]

No wonder everyone is leaving

[runic patrol]

Scopley honestly, are you determined to kill your own games honestly?

[astral grail]

Give us a Handout how to finish the new and old stuff (10k/20k task) without spending money and no one will complain anymore. but so, its a farce and there is nothing you can say...

[analog crystal]

<@&509690795536941056> @raw fiber

I know he deleted his post, but don't worry, I've saved it for future reference.

[solar solar]

Positive reviews written by AI or the Devs

[torpid shard]

How many we hear yous can he provide. A little bit of lite hearted comedy is all he has left

[silk loom]

They automatically lose respect because they continue to be yes men for poor management instead of resigning with a moral compass.

[wise quest]

The game is pretty fun in G3 now because almost all of the artificial walls are gone and they don't have to put up with the new p2w content

[quaint granite]

But of course you are 👀

[keen escarp]

He just acknowledged that he and his company completely don't care about the players.

[timber root]

Saved too, under simpauly_quits.png 😄

[torpid shard]

If your a therapist you could make a fortune here

[silk loom]

I have a screenshot of it too. Might just put in a ticket with Scopely in the game for it too.

[analog crystal]

You sure about that? You seem more like you're sitting back thumbing your navel while the game burns down.

[weary elm]

My response to this post

[bronze igloo]

It’s a dumpster fire but there is TnT down at the bottom that hasn’t caught yet and they keep pouring gasoline in

[last bay]

If I was a therapist, I wouldn’t be playing these kind of games lol

[alpine condor]

Tbh, at this point <@&509690795536941056> should take the tournament down, admit they screwed up, and show that they here is instead @raw fiber would rather troll more players into quitting. Great job guys

[ancient stratus]

10 and 20k are pay 2 play

[mint ember]

<@&509690795536941056> will Scopley every publish a FULL list of what tasks are available in the Alliance Tournaments or is it going to be kept a secret, for players to do the hard work and get the list?

[last bay]

Wow, these are some terrible comments

[marsh cobalt]

F2P = Forced 2 Pay

[gloomy rain]

They've could have just made the 20k pay to play and left everything else the same. The whales would've taken the 20k easily.

[last bay]

This game must’ve really gone downhill while I’ve been away

[astral grail]

so this is a real farce🤣🤣🤣 100€ not enough to finish just 1 task? its cheaper to buy the primes what no one will do who didn't it at the release🤣

[mossy sparrow]

In this case they can sit there i would not even try to bother with this new garbage AT

[livid thunder]

Congratulations. Scopely want only Money, the Community is not important. i don`t know what you doing, but this game is trash after a lot updates. Who cares about fan, important is the money. @raw fiber Sorry, but the Players need to wake up and stop Buying Packs! Who buy something is lost now

[astral grail]

Maybe scopely want close the game? this is the way^^

[raw fiber]

We get the sentiment is high. Again, feedback has already been shared with the team. We’ll post an update as soon as we have news.

[grave quest]

@raw fiber really bad taste. and don’t forget the internet is forever.

[livid thunder]

@raw fiber The team is thinking = Money money money

[torpid shard]

So ignore the event and get on with normal game activities 😁

[sand talon]

by phrasing it 'sentiment is high' you prove otherwise 🙂

[coral dagger]

Don't worry guys they're looking into it

[raw fiber]

im doing other sms

[scarlet fjord]

They be deleting posts ?

[quaint granite]

I won´t be holding my breath

[static hornet]

Save yourself frustration, stay away from it 😅

[ancient stratus]

Remember quantity over quality. Sorry quality of a quantity.( Quality) = how much you have to pay over (quantity) how much you get

[astral grail]

they do since ever, nothing new

[round finch]

I will say this. There's been a lot of stuff thrown at the CMs. They have a hard job. Either their employer hates them or the players do. Unfortunately I feel like it's both currently. They can't wave a magic wand and fix the problems

[last bay]

I might go back to playing infinite langrage

[tender ravine]

btw what was it in the last update video ? we will make it more enjoyable and rewarding for smaller players ... so thats aint true 🤡

[raw fiber]

dont hold your breath lol, I'll ping you when we have news

[grave quest]

this needs to be addressed now with groveling apologies. again, see my earlier post. you guys have pushed the player base waaaaaaaayyy to far this time.

[vale scroll]

Just Feedback? Sounds like the team need removing tbh

[hardy path]

@@raw fiberAll what comes with updates , for events , for grinde for everythink..... makes the game from week to week more expencive .... and allready.... scopley create more bugs .

[mint ember]

Carefully Roo. The mods don't like Scopley.......... Oh it got taken down

[last bay]

I’m hearing a lot of bad reviews right now. Anything good to add to those?

[devout dragon]

Known issues ……………………… Alliance Tournaments successfully ruined for all

[errant brook]

Time for another Conor McGreed lies to the community video.

[sand talon]

'game is easy to delete'

[solar solar]

It’s been 6 years hoping for feedback and improvements

[warm saffron]

We can't even use rerolls anymore to help the sub ops 61 players get good tasks to help our alliances to be competitive. We get 8 tries a day each, I used 4 and get paid tasks in the 10k to replace the ones I rerolled.

[kind rampart]

Atleast Tournaments follows the Theme of the month by being overpriced, underpaying and way to hostile towards players

[karmic bobcat]

It seems @raw fiber drew the short straw and got to take the thrashing

[last bay]

The game is easy to delete huh that sounds like a simple solution, but not one that will fix it overall

[astral grail]

in my view at the moment there is only one way, delete all this dum "updates" ypu bring out, bring back all old stuff. Bring back old tournement and just add new stuff, bring back battle pass overflow and not hide it behind a pay wall, bring back leslie, bring back bonus daily container, bring back choice Token!!!!!!!!

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/printer-shredder-gif-10519066

How that feedback is being shared based on the last 5 years

[worn gull]

He volunteered himself for the bashing.

[timber root]

Not the entire team, just management and whichever economist/psychologist is designing the game around transactions. Just keep the devs (again, the grunts that do actual work), fire all the managers, and let the community drive the direction of the game

[static hornet]

@raw fiber genuine question, please answer as a PLAYER not an EMPLOYEE... Do you think the game is fun right now?

[last bay]

And I kind of like Star Trek I grew up watching that stuff with my grandfather

[carmine yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-16356106285349646826

[bronze igloo]

The bar is set super low here, we just want things to work, events that don’t screw us over and some value for our time

[last bay]

So unofficially are you just rage baiting us

[mint ember]

Nothing new. Too many wetwipes

[mild thicket]

I feel sorry for you @raw fiber having to deal with this, but the company you work for takes nothing but advantage of the communities good will and tolerance. Scopely is done nothing but show it's toxic greed to the community and show how little it really cares for it's players.

Not very starfleet.

[storm oracle]

I think they scan it first and delete it digital also

[static hornet]

I don't expect a reply 😮‍💨

[last bay]

Hey, at least they started out as angels can’t believe they turned into such demons over the course of two years

[torpid shard]

15 rerolls and 1 non paid 10k task 🙄 stepping away from the event now 😒

[warm saffron]

My alliance worked very hard to get players to ops 61 for the Alliance tournament 10k tasks so we could be competitive. Just like most alliances in the game. I don't think we will get 1/3 the points we used to get.

[devout stump]

any comments from the moderators saying - yeah, we hear you?

[quaint granite]

I´m not being very confident about this. Recent events has degraded this game badly and only option is to return things the way the were. Oh and btw. fix the bloody lag and bugs

[quick gale]

Account deletion form sent. Stick that where your £99.99 doesn’t shine <@&509690795536941056>

[mild thicket]

They aren't allowed to comment, they receive strict instructions not to

[torpid shard]

Lots bless them

[alpine condor]

They didn’t have a gif for that

[potent pike]

At the rate you are going Scopely, you will have next to a zero player base by the end of the year. Please stop giving us the finger and make the game fun again!

[last bay]

They’re probably told not to do that so they don’t ruin their image. That’s some real corruptness right there.

[static hornet]

If you believe any company are angels you are naive. Every single company runs on money, they will put money before employees, before fans, they'll bleed every last penny from customers if they have to

[scarlet fjord]

I don’t tend to hang out in discord cause I rather play the game. But after seeing what the AT store was and what you would have to spend I came straight here to check out the comments… most excitement in this game I have had in a while is coming to the comment section

[torpid shard]

End of the month you mean?

[last bay]

Well, the ultimate goal is to make money that’s true for any business

[ancient stratus]

A 1/3 more like 1/10

[last bay]

But you don’t make new customers doing this kind of stuff

[timber root]

Can't make any money without customers though ...

[fluid mist]

been in hiding since the 21st barely talks at all I don't even consider him a cm anymore considering he is never here to do his job. Arsenic is here 4x more than hammey and he isn't paid by scopley lol

[keen loom]

Yea they so. People blindly spend until it’s too late. Scopley only cares about the blind spend period.

[rare vale]

The thing is, they would make so much more money if they listened to feedback. People would be willing to spend if the game was fun, fair, and affordable. It's not a hard concept. So many great games make money hand over fist while also doing those things... I dare say because of those things.

[potent pike]

Sure, but there needs to be a balance and Scopely has decided that we either pony up some 💰 or go play someone else's game

[near forum]

New AT is a mess

• no reroll tokens from 10/20k tasks
• the pay only task list grew so big hard to find grindable ones with limited rerolls
• premium tasks only pay pay pay

[weary elm]

But they could be professional and tell players that their feed back is being shared instead of further antagonizing people with posts like this:

[last bay]

So I guess we’re not worth talking to now man this is getting out of hand

[pliant otter]

Way to not read the room, you want players to return but demand more revenue from your existing customers? You still don’t get Econ 101, offer a lower price and sell on volume. Packs should be $20 not $100. You also don’t understand competition, there are lots of choices for video game entertainment and yours is way expensive for what it is.

[sterile sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-3-never-spend-more-for-an-acquisition-than-you-have-to-star-trek-ferengi-rules-of-acquisition-gif-3366244648771230149

[last bay]

I think it’s time for some new leadership

[tacit bobcat]

Look what was done to the series fanbase. Par for the course

[static hornet]

Don't forget they like to do the promotions like "get to X level in 30 days for $50" things and hope you spend money to get to that level or get hooked and spend more

It's pretty smart marketing, but relies entirely on there being a game worth playing

[last bay]

I feel bad for him too. He probably wanted to work for the good of the game he had no idea what he was getting into

[solar solar]

They will shut down this channel before admitting they were wrong. 5 min slow mode will get a booster

[worn gull]

A lot of people stopped feeling bad for him after this.

[last bay]

It’s funny that you should say that because if they shut down the channel, then I’m sure a lot of people will stop playing this game and that cost them a lot of money and all they care about is money

[mild thicket]

This guy actually said this.... and a couple months later, here we are again:

[solar solar]

And what do you think is currently happening

[last bay]

So wait, are they trying to shut down the game?

[fluid mist]

my guess it's one that involves being on hands and or knees

[astral grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

[cyan isle]

Your new Credit Card tournament suck. There is nothing to do with alliances competing anymore. Just spend money.

[tacit bobcat]

He needs to fire himself

[scarlet fjord]

Oh! I finally get this post! The dude that’s supposed to be representing scopley throws a gif like that… got it 👍

[timber root]

This guy needs to resign or be fired, under his leadership they've consistantly been "missing the mark"

[ancient stratus]

I said on day 1 of the arc they lost a lot of players. Next bunch they will lose in this arc and the next lot is trying to hold on and see if there is a light at the end of the tunnel but it is a train on the other side of the tunnel coming fast nearer

[static hornet]

Not just feedback, there are a lot of us who would be willing to actually fix the game for free if they published parts of the code they were struggling with

Imagine having a solid, smooth experience? Crazy thoughts

[torpid shard]

Flashpoint was better then the new incursion & at and they pulled that fairly quickly .... heck even sarris was better and thats been permanently cancelled
5 min cooldown again....🙄

[solid spoke]

I know it does not help much as they have shown us the community means nothing but just go review bomb android and iOS and hopefully stop new people giving them a cent more

[solar solar]

Who is this mark character? Maybe Scopely should find him and re-hire him

[hardy path]

@raw fiber I need to Add, im also hold a level 72 Acc and as one of the frist Ever STFC streamers after my Friend Jason Vneck ...... and yes we are also live in moment with the discord feed, i get more and more questions. 1. whz the Hell the creators of this content .....tell the comunnity before we make battlepass and At like this FTP player and smaller player can grow up faster...... was only 1 guy have a look to the milestones in the free pass? a free tresor 3 times a year was to mutch 1 must be engouth? --------------2. building hard bugs.... that players use if them see it and after create a skript in hours ..... how can reset the resarch and everthink else was done i this time..... also with the fail that round about 25% of the players lost more mats , ressoureces and stuff this research was needed. My admiral now wanne quit the game to by your script bug and no answer for his ticket. ........ and then you tell us for be fair for all other players...... never ever..... if your fair and honestly you tell us them get stuff for free... ...but you do it in a fiu hours...... who long we now waiting for warp bugs, the cube wave bug, cube and gs31 surges bugs....... reapier bug.....und need more???? If player would cound ----- scopley make it for the PLAYERS and not for there Offshorebankacc

[mint ember]

Now that's silly thinking. Why would they want a smooth running game? Look at the interaction about AT they getting on it.

[south cedar]

Ok, I'm done with this stupid Alliance Tournament. Can spend my time with better things to do, e.g. cleaning my windows.

[errant girder]

Hey all I am looking for a new game to play since STFC is in it death throes. Anybody got any suggestions for a good cheap game?

[mild thicket]

Windrose

[cold summit]

Way to go Scopely!!! You truly have outdone yourself and made this game an absolute trash!!!!

[icy patio]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vulture-4--k01KQWJH60AB9SS8Z2VGEPST6AW

[sleek glacier]

I'm confused year of hell has finished right???

[worn gull]

Slow mode enabled. Bahahahahaha

[lofty musk]

At least on the iOS App Store, folks should go in and mark the reviews that are factual as being “helpful” to get them to the top of the review aggregator.

[winged jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-gif-24824538

[last bay]

I think they just banned me for five minutes that or they extended the waiting time to be able to chat, they must really not like to talk to me right now for some reason I didn’t even say anything bad if anything, I’m just asking questions

[kindred flower]

I have Archived my Account.
Fun playing with everyone

[sharp zealot]

@raw fiber

[cyan isle]

They’re renaming alliance tournaments. To credit card tournaments

[timber root]

Meanwhile Discord is offering a "quest" to play NTE, which I know is a full on gacha game, but at this point seems a better way to spend my gaming time than playing STFC with my friends.

[hot geyser]

if you are putting a task out that you have to spend to complete make sure there isn’t a timer on the pack. how ignorant do you have to be to make a task completely unbeatable

[high narwhal]

So lvl 60 and below don't need private ciphers to play the damn stupid battle pass then. Obviously were far too insignificant to play that.

[half moth]

CoDMobile

[devout stump]

division 3 is coming out

[steel ridge]

Please bring the borg event back. If you plan on retiring or, announce it so we can spend our currency

[rugged dove]

This change in the alliance tournament is a disaster. And is only showing the players how much Scopely doesn’t care for them.

[raw fiber]

Hey Kalter, I usually lurk on your stream 👀 I hear you, man. We know the known issues especially long standing one has been a big point of frustration, I can assure you that we are working on it and they’re not being ignored.

[lethal bridge]

And what is with: you can only play if you pay?

[bronze mortar]

How unexpected that g6 and g7 players are quitting the game rather then spending more and more money

[grave quest]

i hope you all really understand how ignored unseen and even attacked we all seem to be feeling! At this point, very little less than management talking to us directly and and immediate 180 defgree turn can stop this. i say this out of love for stfc and not just complaining. !!

[lofty musk]

Scopely only cares about the premium consumer now like most other companies now who realize their products are quickly becoming unattainable. Thats why laundry soap is being locked behind cabinets now.

[silk loom]

Couple months later? You mean over a year ago, and it just gets worse every single arc...

[vale scroll]

Yes they're hoping that g3-g5 players are an untapped income source waiting to be fleeced.

[timber root]

I'm sorry but we simply can't believe anything coming out of Scopely at the moment, Scopely simply has a way too long track record of blatantly lying to us, whatever little trust was left is utterly broken. Scopely needs to prove it's changing with actions, not with words.

[empty walrus]

Can you post a list at least of the possible tasks

[median wolf]

Here's the only feedback you need for anything going forward.

Games are meant to be played.

Scopely seem to have misheard played as paid.

[royal quiver]

@droctxt

[lapis wyvern]

Complaining here doesn't help when the company doesn't give a crap. 1 Star reviews might get some attention if done in mass.

[steel ridge]

@raw fiber Did they retire the borg event? If they are planning too can you put in word to bring it back once and announce it so we can spend our currency please

[coral dagger]

Lots of looking into things going on, might I humbly suggest we move on to the finding step

[hot geyser]

agreed, all this new BS they have been coming out with and them trying to falsely ban me. think it’s time to hit the road. not gonna sit here and be lied to and then them trying to get rid of someone who wanted to try and play more

[tardy sky]

"Working as intended"

[woeful nymph]

What was Eco's famous line? "I'll get back to you on that"

[raw fiber]

We’ll continue to push for clearer comms and update on this issue -- as we have them, sir admiral

[languid quartz]

I heard of inflation, but doubling the cost of officer badges?

[silk loom]

Greed corrupts morals.. And this game accells at one thing, greed...

[sharp zealot]

he answerded on twitch

[analog crystal]

Clearer comms? I don't know, your deleted post was pretty clear:

"We don't give a damn about you."

[grave quest]

honestly, if the game played well, if it was t so greedy, if the economy was drastically better, if it was t pay to win or even pay to participate, i’d have no issues paying a monthly subscription like i do for gta+. however, id never do it for a game this fundamentally broken and to a company this intent on abusing players.

[raw fiber]

😵‍💫 i can't hop on the stream yet, I'll rewatch laterrr

[raw fiber]

The inputs have already been forwarded to the right team, so it may take some time for them to review and come back with updatesss 🫡

[manic star]

if you don’t want people who spend a little every month playing your game, just whack a subscription on it and tell the rest of us to go away. If you think lots of small amounts of money are worthwhile, maybe stop screwing us all with evwry change. Just an idea.

[quick coral]

Wait... you mean $100 per purchase isn't small?

scoffs in richness (not really, I am f2p here)

[timber root]

The teams don't actually need to update anything, they need to rollback everything: rollback AT, rollback Leslie, rollback choice tokens, rollback the battlepass, rollback the entire patch. I'd honestly lose 2 weeks worth of gameplay results (resources, mats, etc) than keep the game in this state.

[coral dagger]

Visual representation of them looking into things

[woeful nymph]

I just find it mind boggling the amount of L's and misses that have happened in the last few months. Whatever group is allowing this stuff to roll out needs to re-evaluate their decision making and double check that they are living in the same reality as the player base.

[kind rampart]

With how bad these Changes are recieved by the Community please just stop Tournament for now, issue a big comp chest for everyone, Then talk to Content Creators and Players on how to improve AT or revert back to the last Version of it

[real talon]

This games run by "Faze" management lol

[errant girder]

https://tenor.com/view/potter-mash-horse-hockey-gif-9953589 This entire arc and AT

[lethal bridge]

So it is send directly to the spam folder at Scopely and immediately deleted. There is no other way to understand the lack of response from Scopely.

[grave quest]

given the severity of what is going on, i’d think they’d want to say SOMETHING ASAP. But as always, it’s head in sand. remember, this isn’t just AT! This has been a fundamental choice over the past weeks and months to hurt and abuse the player base for short term profit.

[sour hamlet]

Just asking for a friend: is this month the new way forward, the „game we deserve“? Because if it is, I might have to watch the video on how to delete an account. I mean, my friend should watch it

[silk loom]

Unless the highest level management and board of directors are getting the feedback, you're forwarding to the wrong people.

And why isn't it compulsory for management to actually be here reading this as part of their job? Insulating themselves from reality is why we're here in the first place.

[vale scroll]

This is all intentional, and the expected response. It has to be, there is absolutely no way they weren't expecting this reaction.

[manic star]

I’m sure our feedback is taken very seriously by the accountant who has product management strategy responsibility. There is clearly big money in the 100 top players, more than in all the rest of us.

[west sun]

Yeah, this is pure trash. No thank you.

[icy patio]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bird-vulture-6--k01KQWKTYP2S4ZS6GQMCRRRQNZC

[analog crystal]

I'd love to hear what "inputs have been forwarded."

Was it an accurate representation of the sentiment? Or is it some BS sugar-coated corporate speak of "some customer dissatisfaction"?

[lunar silo]

This is the last straw, you took an event that was actually working and broke it in favor of an elite few who will foolishly pay to win.. I'm thinking its time to look for a different star trek game to play

[real talon]

If the games in a good state people will spend, if it's in the states it's in now games done for

[worn gull]

Top spender on our server (by far, wasn't close) quit the other day.

[last current]

And Scamplay can't figure out why players are leaving and refuse to spend? This BS 150 to 1 exchange for AT refreshes? Fail on every level and the same low standard Scamplay is setting.

[raw fiber]

your accurate words

[dense wharf]

Scopely, can you change the name of your new refresh credits to this? Its more accurate.

[gritty stirrup]

💩 Aliance Tornament

[tropic crown]

More like they don’t care and figure people will spend anyways.

[grave quest]

@raw fiber i hope all of this is making it back to overlords. as i said, this has been a long time brewing, its just the flood gates are finally breaking.

[old seal]

This game is getting rinsed for any money they can extract before pulling the plug. I'll be surprised if it is still here by Christmas.

[obsidian pendant]

bullschit.. you cant change annymore.. 1,2 mill gone?

[raw fiber]

yes sir

[icy patio]

i have 0 interest in participating in events where the only way to 100% is to swipe a credit card... Used to be able to spend time and compete with p2w, now time isn't even something you can give enough of, it has to be money or you're out of luck.

[smoky thistle]

the "undo" button might be the best bet tbh, this is....bad

[rugged nacelle]

“There’s no need, obviously, to be public. There’s no need to produce any kind of short term results, and to point the company in a very successful kind of trajectory” - Jose Ferriera CEO

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/scopely-game-company-revenue-15-billion-monopoly-go-1236525621/

[vocal plover]

Quite happy to have called it on this one

[analog crystal]

I've got some accurate words for you...

The game is broken. Basic mechanics are consistently broken (officer abilities, lag, combat, ship repairs, etc.)

Content is not adequately tested. Every rollout for the past 2 months (arguably longer) has been plagued by everything from balance issues, to poor difficulty scaling. Even the art has created controversy.

After the fallout from a previous failed launch, the players were promised a more transparent and choice-based game experience. You took that away by removing choice rewards and redesigning officer depot tokens. We lost 75% of our potential material gains (substantially more for f2p). And the one consistent mechanism for getting the officers we need to shape our gameplay was converted into a gamble.

The emphasis on spending mechanics only serves to disenfranchise a significant portion of the community.

Let's be abundantly clear, this game is trash. The only reason most of us still play is because of the people we play with. If they start leaving in droves, then there is no more reason to invest time, or especially money, into this game.

[raw fiber]

yes, thanks for this!

[river knoll]

<@&509690795536941056> is the paragon store gone? I’m not seeing it and didn’t spend anything I earns this weekend because well….life

[last current]

The choice tokens from BP are also gone. We used the mat turn in during AT to complete the 10k tasks, same as exchanging artifact tokens. Both gone and no longer an option to score AT points. Purposefully removing functional mechanisms that work shows how little Scamplay thinks of players or the actual game experience.... This is actually funny now watching Scamplay destroy their income stream......

[clear echo]

It would appear that this month's money grab is every event possible. Though on a plus side the server hasn't crashed (as we are mainly logging out and doing something else)

Though one thing all these poorly planned and truly obvious money grab update this month (and last month) has done have got all our spenders talking to each other about a full server wide boycott

[vocal tinsel]

The game is broken and trash! The last update is the most hated update ever. Nothing good was in there. People are here because of the people... If the gate opens, people will leave in mass and you can't do anything about it. You are very close to a breaking point. Get your stuff together

[woeful nymph]

AT's got a ColonoScopely

[warm dirge]

DS9 arc - quite ok, Voyager arc - same. even the augment arc last year was quite acceptable. but since then... everything is lagged. you click on a hostile, ship goes where the hostile was, when it was clicked, arrives, nothing there. corrects course, chases the hostile on the new trajectory. makes kirshara bug after the 2nd hostile in the queue consistently. then the veil. takes 10-15s to load the system. same behaviour for hostiles, just slower. don't even know if this can be fixed, as everything is registered against a database, that seems to be the main reason for the lag. stuff became too bloated and instead of streamlining, new stuff is added on top

[mild spruce]

Anyone talking about the broken desealing rod buffs?

[icy patio]

every conversation in my alliance chat is about how much people want to quit...

[keen loom]

People wondered why compensation for last week was held. It was the calm before the storm.

Scopley knew this AT wasn’t going to go over well, and wanted compensation for last week to be a distraction.

Nope.

[rugged dove]

Anyone that spends on this alliance tournament event is telling all other players that they don’t care about them and agree with scopely. . A spend boycott should be started immediately.

[mild thicket]

🚨 NEW UPDATE: FREE-TO-PLAY EXPERIENCE IMPROVED! 🚨

At Scopely, we deeply dislike our free-to-play players. In fact, we dislike you so much that we’ve made several exciting changes to ruin your gameplay journey:

✨ Longer Wait Times!
Why rush greatness? Building upgrades now take even longer, giving you more time to reflect on your life choices.

💎 More “Opportunities” to Spend!
We’ve added helpful pop-ups every 12 seconds to remind you how much better things could be if you weren’t stubborn.

🧱 New Paywall Technology™
Our engineers have worked tirelessly to ensure that just as you start enjoying yourself, you’ll encounter a gently sloped… vertical wall.

🎯 Matchmaking Improvements!
You’ll now be matched with players who have spent roughly the GDP of a small nation. Growth is about aspiration, remember you mean nothing to us.

🎁 Daily Rewards Revamp!
Log in every day for 30 days to earn a reward that would have been useful 6 months ago!

• Scopely

[analog crystal]

This is hardly a comprehensive list. I could write a thesis-length treatise, if it means one of the decision makers would listen and take NECESSARY ACTION. I've no shortage of content, thanks to Scopely's ineptitude.

[languid quartz]

If you truly cared about the game, everyone would harder in their jobs so they can buy their fair share of packs. NOT 🤣

[wet tusk]

bring out the boss so we actually talk to someone that could make significant changes...

[raw fiber]

this is okay for now (I'll add it on my report) but if I can send you a dm so I can get back to you

[coral dagger]

So it's like this yeah, I'm spending more time considering what I want my 5 minute messages to be than I am anything actually in game, which I have completely written off at this point. That's the true and accurate state of the game. Pass it on.

[shut hornet]

<@&509690795536941056> I know we are all up in arms over alliance tournament right now but is there any update on solo wave starts comp for ops 45-60? 61+ got it because they were removed/nerfed from the WDBP, but 45-60 WDBP also had solo wave starts every four tiers last month and now they are missing. @tidal notch was "looking into it" as of last night.

[wooden spire]

I think the boss made his decision months ago: monetise like crazy and then shut down the game. I expect it works out better financially than trying to fix a game that needs to be re-coded from the beginning.

[keen loom]

Except that’s against discord rules ><

[mild spruce]

If my math is correct , it will take almost 12 months to open a vault without spending any money

[tropic crown]

It’s way past that now. You abused player patience for years now. You nerfed just about every that was a benefit to the players. You refuse to fix bugs, lag or do a claim all for faction stores. The greed here is next level everything you done this arc seems designed to get people to quit and from what I see in game it’s working! Radio silence won’t make the anger go away. We have lost multiple people in my fleet and multiple more have put up 7 days shields and are likely to quit. So we don’t want to hear things are being talked about, that ships has sailed. We don’t trust Scopley to do anything to make the problems better. Just while ago you took the whole game offline to fix a bug that benfited the players but ignore bugs that hurts players for years! It’s been years since we were promised quality over quantity and that was a straight up lie.

[mild thicket]

They did several months ago, we listened, he spoke and made promises, but his actions proved him to be a liar.

[hollow laurel]

⚰️ This “update” was the third nail in the coffin in a very short time that you've let slip by. Have you already drawn up redundancy plans for your staff?

[silent blaze]

<@&509690795536941056> this game is horrible. Tournament is awful. The buck stops now. No more money or time for this garbage game...

[cyan isle]

They will fix a bug that that benefits players with in minutes. And claim it for the integrity of the game. Then ignore bots. I guess for the integrity of the game? But they Ignore bugs that are actually destroying the integrity of the game. They are liars

[white shadow]

#freethetourny

[rich cypress]

I quit at the beginning of this trash arc. So glad I finally made a good decision.
What is sad is that this could be a fun , profit generating game and SCOPELY - (not digit) ruined it. They threw their cash cow into the meat grinder . I will never play another Scopely game and neither will my friends or family.
Thanks for destroying STFC 👍

[analog crystal]

I'm more than happy to talk, using any method, to anyone who will listen.

[raw fiber]

thank you buddy!

[river knoll]

An alliance mate just told the the paragon store closed after just 48 hours after the spend event concluded. Some of us have lives and families and can’t live on this game and so could we please open it back up? Or have I lost all that currency? <@&509690795536941056>

[empty walrus]

Can somebody clarify if the aquire G4 uncommon material task been removed? @finite mural

[gloomy rain]

It's not tested because they stopped caring and are trying to squeeze every single dollar out of us.

[wooden spire]

No GM (even Conor, I’m sure) would allow this amount of discontent from players and loss of accounts if he hadn’t already decided when the shutdown phase was happening… think about it critically.

This is the death spiral and it’s no accident. Incompetency and greed may have led to this point, but the end is planned.

[finite mural]

the acquire mats tasks are still there

[tender arch]

I did one today.

[old seal]

The absolute joke is that they want players to "invest" in the game. Obviously wasting time and money on in-game is what this delusion of investment is. This obviously includes players who want to give themselves a warm fuzzy feeling they are not throwing money away into a pixel and zero ownership to sell. Investment= owning something to sell inorder to make a profit. This is for Scopely NOT for players.

[finite mural]

They are just flooded with the acquire paid tasks

So hard to find anything

[vocal reef]

@tidal notch The AT task "acquire 1500 uncommon Commander skill points" no longer awards completion if you use the refinery to acquire the skill points? Why is that? Scopely certainly does not need to add another pay to win event/task.

[languid quartz]

I hope the STFC team kept their resumes updated

[finite mural]

That task has always been a paid pack, or level the command center and has never had anything to do with the refinery

[glossy jungle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxyD9cfiaS0

[icy patio]

been considering it now more than ever

[white shadow]

I think it is safe to say that people are done talking because nothing happens.

[sinful idol]

Things are pretty bad when Rev is promoting archiving / deleting 👆🏻

[karmic bobcat]

Without being accusatory or rude lets think about this: MACO Bellhopper event: I need 3400 points, I get 25 points for each q trial I start and 100 points for winning that rounds. By rough estimate I would need to complete 30 Q trials (and be successful). How is that even feasible? If the event is not to be completed, then why is there even a prize listed that cant be attained?

[grave quest]

same because something’s gotta give.

[vestal pebble]

Why did they remove strike team officers(below deck) from at store?

[mild thicket]

#improvements

[iron grove]

So they can add useless officers 😂

[languid quartz]

what is this new AT store currency? and which tasks award it (I assume the 20k ones)

[uneven vault]

You've said what I was thinking... this looks like an exit strategy... recoup and cut losses. If it isn't an exit strategy from STFC then what type of "strategy" is it? It isn't quality focused, it isn't customer focus, it is definitely not an improvement strategy. You've lost almost all of the player good will, it has to be intentional, what type of credible company behaves like this.

[shut hornet]

<@&509690795536941056> I know we are all up in arms over alliance tournament right now but is there any update on solo wave starts comp for ops 45-60? 61+ got it because they were removed/nerfed from the WDBP, but 45-60 WDBP also had solo wave starts every four tiers last month and now they are missing. @tidal notch was "looking into it" as of last night.

[slate grotto]

@raw fiber sent you a dm. It’s nice but direct. Please read it

[vale scroll]

This could simply be incompetence, we all know income targets weren't met with G7 and this feels like a desperate attempt to grab money other ways, to the detriment of the player base.

[vocal reef]

Thank you for your response but I regret to inform you that I have always been able to complete that one with the refinery up until today. 🤬

[finite mural]

You're mistaken

It has never been through the refinery

[mossy acorn]

good grief, Fleet Command: These Tournament changes would have been hard enough even with Choice Rewards

Just give them back to us next month, please? So we can better choose our progression. So we can do one more task (out of however many that you have dilluted them with).

Throw us a bone.

I'm heartsick for my alliancemates/servermates who are walking away from the game b/c you placed so much change on us this month that isn't in the players' favor

[past vine]

I just hope that some day we hear the full story about why the decision makers at Scopely chose to absolutely destroy their game and drive away their customers as fast as possible.

Was it a contest between two executives to see who could completely ruin STFC as an asset and choke off its revenue stream the fastest? Did they take turns trying to one-up eachother every month for biggest game-destroying change? Or did they just get tired of burning piles of cash and now they can only get enjoyment from burning down their own company?

[grave quest]

this is how bluntly i want to be told that brokely is shutting down stfc. just rip off the bandaide. don’t let it be a slow lingering painful death. just give it to us straight.

[sinful idol]

Not only did you botch AT but you also increased the cost for badges in AT store? 3300 each now? They used to be like 1100/1200 each.

[worn gull]

Deleting messages they don't like isn't helping.

[simple pumice]

Oh and I see the orignial message has been deleted lol

[mild thicket]

I'd encourage everyone to goto their mobile app store and give this game their honest review and rating.

[rugged sand]

Please make public the day by day player spending on the last 3 AT’s. I really want to see if this improved revenue.

[mental minnow]

CREDIBLE? ——- none

[crisp tusk]

<@&509690795536941056> the shambles that is the new Alliance tournament has finally done it for me, I find no joy whatsoever in playing this game anymore, I’m ops 72 been playing for years but you don’t listen to feedback and every change just makes the game worse
I’ve put a long shield on and if nothing has changed in a couple of weeks I’ll shut the account down
You seem intent on destroying what used to be a great game

[frank beacon]

30 mins daily claim
Event reset not playable
Hostile hunt 1
Hostile hunt 2
Hostile hunt 3
Battle pas 1
Battle pas 2
Battle pas 3
Ahead of curve
Arc specific sms 1
Arc specific sms 2
Arc specific sms 3
Mining fraction
Mining specific resources
Keep up with specific ship 1
Keep up with specific ship 2
Keep up with specific ship 3
Challenger track
Daily goals
Mission key
Spinning wheel
Ship isn’t allowed in current state
System not showing
Ship repair lag
More content added 1
More content added 2
More content added 3
Remove of choice rewards
Remove of officer depot tokens
Remove of old AT

And that every day

[final plinth]

🤮 This sums it up - pretty much.

[grizzled topaz]

this is like the game no mans sky but reverse 😂

[candid wren]

with the removal of choice rewards there is little to no chance to upgrade my ships at lv 63 and i get about 68 6* mats on a 4 chest pull and need 93k to upgrade 1 ship module

[molten cedar]

I dont even have words for the any of the absolutely player hating tactics of scopely anymore...

[umbral gull]

Another event just like incursions I will no longer take part in lol I was good for at least 1k a tourney but not anymore bruh

[solar sun]

Alliance Tournament.....

[spare hedge]

another event down the drain. that's almost a year of crap so far

[vestal pebble]

Scopely having pay only content in tournaments store won't give you thumbs up

[sterile sierra]

Nova space Armada

[lilac badger]

i lost 775 refreshes down to 50 refreshes!!! and my kids account lost 12k down to less than 1 refresh!!!! it is absolutely ridiculous!!! what a middle finger eh!!

[spark kestrel]

This new AT is complete BS 🤬

[wet tusk]

Underworld — 20:04
They did several months ago, we listened, he spoke and made promises, but his actions proved him to be a liar.
then bring him out again and again and again so he has to stand to his broken promises...

[static hornet]

Who's Amanda? 👀

Edit: not fair you can't change it 😤

[turbid osprey]

The alliance tournament changes is a massive cash grab in the dumbest way possible

[honest moat]

I've managed to enjoy playing the game through all the ups and many downs, until now. This past month Scopely has fast forwarded the ongoing trend of making the game unlikeable and unplayable. Not an easy task when you have a license to make Star Trek content. How does this even happen? this is.... Illogical. The game is no longer fun to play. Such a shame...

[sterile sierra]

Yes I can

[white shadow]

I'll translate so the overlords can understand...you big mean... players big mad... players no likey game no more.

[rigid badger]

This AT is the last drop!!!
This game is now unplayable with all the errors and lags and with scopely adding even more things that can only be achieved by paying for them, I’ve lost all the joy playing it.

I’ll play until the end of this arc but just because I already payed for the BP, and it is also the time I need to transfer the leadership of my alliance to someone else, but then this is it:

After almost 6 years playing it and spending enormous amounts of cash into it, I’m quitting!!!

Thanks Scopely for hiring so many incompetent people that were able to completely crash a game that had all it needed to be a success!!!

PS:
my wife is thanking you all, I will now have more time and money available to spend with her 🥰🥰🥰

[warm dirge]

this is a bit ambigous. it should be "players no pay anymore"

[full gate]

$200 tasks???? RIDICULOUS. This game is a cluster of F's right down to the devs and GM and company.

[modest mirage]

try assassins creed various games and really good fun also none of this extortionate stupid rip off prices like here, just main game to pay and thats about it. a few add ons but cheap ones

[cloud saffron]

guess a Picture says more then 1000 Words 😄

[vestal pebble]

What? They now give credits for tasks based on alliance rank, is this a new change?

[frosty plover]

This is amazing lol (Community dislikes game and changes yet still plays)

[honest flicker]

Here is my general interpretation of the past months:

1. Scopely is owned by the Saudi government's Public Investment Fund. While Scopely is officially "autonomous," any subsidiary company answers to the parent organization for financial profit margins.

2. STFC has been experiencing some big monetization changes this year, as we all know (I don't need to list them all here).

3. STFC must not be meeting profit margin goals, given how much spend pressure (and new/return player recruiting) we have been witnessing.

4. Following item 3, STFC must be getting parent organization pressure to "fix" the profit margin problem by the next quarterly earnings report, and there is an implied "or else..."

5. Ultimately STFC is likely under a whole chain of profit pressure running all the way up to the Saudi PIF.

This is NOT to excuse any of the things STFC/Scopely has done in their attempts to improve the bottom line. It is simply to consider where all the pressure we have seen is likely originating from. As such I blame the whole organization structure above them, not just the STFC leadership.

[honest moat]

Scopely has lost sight of the most important part of making a game. It has to Be Fun !!!!! the game is no longer fun. It was fun and now it's not.

[cosmic idol]

Eat 💩 Scopely! You won't get any more money from me until you've reverted all these horrible anti-player changes. Every last one of them.

[sterile sierra]

This is a greed fire sale. Make as much money as you can before making more selling the assets of the company off. They are not stupidly doing this. They have a plan.

[rare vale]

It's not the game we dislike, it the bad choices and lack of player empathy the devs have which we dislike. It's ruined an otherwise good game.

[white shadow]

What did everyone expect from scopely since they are owned by the same people who own EA. All they care about is their quarterly reports. They'll do what they do with all these games. Milk it for everything they can and then toss it to the wayside.

[cloud saffron]

JSUT MADE MY DAY, but some of the clowns are very creepy 😄

[dapper seal]

hey just in case nobody told you yet - the new tournament is blatant anti-player.

and because i likely need to spell that out for you: that is bad and you should feel bad

[balmy dew]

Wonder if what i herd about scoply trying to tank the game to get out of a contract is true

[icy patio]

notice how the difference between player and payer is one l... scopely is taking the l.

[tropic crown]

They could have not agreed to be bought. It will on Scopley.

[karmic bobcat]

There is really no use in being rude about it. It only causes the "powers that be" to tune out. Comments need to be constructive no matter how upset we are. To be completely honest I would accept if the game was shut down for a week if the result was a real repair of the problems in the game. Ultimately I know the workers want to get paid, but a sliding scale is in place: more problems lead to less money and more satisfaction leads to more income. I realize there is a point where the best results occur, but frankly as long as the money continues to come in there isnt a real NEED to fix the problems.

[carmine yew]

1 year later everything went down the toilet

[final plinth]

I don't even comprehend how you are locking FT like godsend (which is quite old now) and was sold for 50 USD in the shop recently behind EPIC tokens which require purchases of packs

[serene idol]

Bad performance since 6 month. Small steps if we were not able to log in. Last Updates: Pay, Pay Pay. POerformance down. Last Wave defence one of my ships were locked for 2.5 waves. As long as you do not fix the lag. not a single cent for you! Even if you arrange a meeting with P. Stewart.

[winged osprey]

This is possibly the worst design decision regarding this event I could think of. No forethought at all.

You guys needed to scrap the alliance tournament task and reward system and implement a new one. That’s all you guys had to do

[full gate]

$200 tasks???? RIDICULOUS. This game is a cluster of F's right down to the devs and GM and company. They killed AT... KILLED it...

[tropic crown]

While I am not trying to be rude I hate to tell you being polite and patient didn’t work.

[remote quartz]

SCOPELY = the biggest joke on earth!!

[boreal flame]

isnt it kind of obvious right now this is true?

[white shadow]

After five years and a significant amount of money I've spent I don't have to be constructive or nice for that matter. I've given my time, effort and RSS just to get (insert bad word) every time I turn around. They don't like what I have to say then they know what they can do.

[fluid mist]

I'm sure many of us either are doing this or have a timeframe of when we will do this is things don't change. I knows whales that might decide to continue playing this game but even they have said if things don't settle down or if too many ftp's leave we have less targets and refuse to hit each other it would cost too much. When ya have whales saying this outside of your v.i.p. server to members in there alliance or in galaxy chat ya know it's a powder keg just waiting to explode scopley and yes this message started as reference to your post and ended with an at scopley rant rofl.

[vestal pebble]

In my alliance G5 players can't trade in their old rerolls tokens, is this true for everyone?

[molten egret]

They finally created an update that pushed me out of the game. Just dropped my shield sent my location to my alliance, left it, and uninstalled the game.

[winged osprey]

I think it’s wild. We’re seeing all these big giant companies watch as everyone becomes more and more disgruntled at the way they think they can get water from stone. And only after failing like this might they figure out that they need to be overall user friendly.

Microsoft has implemented a team to fully look at and stop putting in new features and look at improvements overall instead.

This is what we’re asking for. We’re tired of being wrung up and given nothing in return

[woven geode]

Effectively the Task board is locked for most Alliances with the changes in rerolls. So few rerolls(unless you buy more) means the board stays static. You can't help your alliance by doing rerolls in order to help your alliance mates. If people won't do, can't do or refuse to pay the task change very slowly at best. Which means less participation not more, less dollars not more. Pretty sure I know the goal was revenue generation but they overreached and further disengaged with players. The writing is on the wall......the end is near.

[dull kelp]

BCH away from just deleting this game. Every update game gets worse.

[grave quest]

this may all be true and likely is. but you don’t raise your profit margins by lowering quality, ignoring player / spender feedback, and going full pay to participate while alienating your base. it’s like clenching your fist around sand. it’s going to slip through fingers and make things worse until it’s a spiraling “devil” circle. and that is where we are now. this is what we have been warning about for MONTHS but we have not been taken seriously (looking at one of revs latest streams where he says we’re being sensational) We’ve seen the writing on the wall. This has now gotten so bad that so many players are either deleting their accounts or archiving them pointing to the gas lines starting on fire where this is concerned. they had time to fix it. they had time to change course. now i really honestly fear it’s all too late. and now brokely needs to decide whether they keep they fix the ship or if they let it flounder. but this cannot continue.

[torpid kelp]

Am I the only one who has this luck again?

[woeful nymph]

Ultimately Scopely's assumption that people who paid for things before will keep paying for them moving forward no matter what Scopely rolls out is going to cause us to stop spending. We spend because we like the content, not because Scopely tells us we have too. Keep it up and your revenue will dry up faster than you think it will

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/deadhorse-lol-gif-4927979

[vivid frigate]

what they don't see is: People are much more willing to pay for a working game instead for a game which breaks more every day

[dapper seal]

playing stfc is futile, ftfy

[vale scroll]

They want their $4.9b back (from this AT by the looks of things)

[mellow cave]

Too many letters.
Playing is futile as carbo said lol

[cinder shadow]

alright, so scopely did it again... they killed cota; now they killed tournament...

[balmy dew]

good job on driving away most your players.. game seems to get buggier and 💩 with each update

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/fogo-more-star-wars-gif-13624709056817377234

[woeful nymph]

Multi tiered prime. Tier 1 is pitchforks, Tier 2 is torches, Tier 3 you unlock the ability to throw the pitchforks., Tier 4 you unlock the ability to throw the Torches, and tier 5 you gain the ability to release the mob with an 8 hr cooldown.

[full gate]

strongly considering quitting over this AT change and all the months and months of failing code and lag and glitches... I think I'm done with this cluster of F's game made by greedy careless cluster designers. I now hate this game but not as much as I hate the staff and company.

[rigid spruce]

So the last couple of updates before this arc have been bad, poorly executed and bug ridden. Then you choose to introduce an arc based on the least popular Trek ever which is even more bug ridden. You have ruined incursions with the last change (and completely botched its implementation the month before). You have reverted Battle Pass pulls to make them less useful for players, and words fail me with what you have done to the alliance tournaments. This is poor beyond belief. Compensation for all the downtime and bugs has been poor. You should be ashamed of what you have produced the last few months. No more new content and desperate cash grabs until you fix the damn game please.

[white shadow]

Mmm.....now that's money well spent.

[dry nest]

Alliance Tournaments are officially gash now

[dapper seal]

oooh, i think we all should go watch event horizon instead of playing now

[real badge]

R i P Alliance Tournament

[graceful belfry]

Because i was stup🥺 enough to buy it 😂😂😂

[twin tendon]

academy arc living up to the series big time
like most trek fans was insulted by academy so this arc do to stfc players
shame on the stfc team for not fix any bug and waste time on new content what is absolute garbage and what worse change working events to garbage
every single one from the dev team should apolegise to players
but we know stfc team will not
they love make players suffer

[rugged sand]

@twin tendon

[junior sierra]

And we thought last year was the year of hell 🔥

[winged osprey]

What sucks is that I was usually okay to buy the BP but this BP tier system just made me realize how bad it could get. As well you did this BS with the AT that makes no sense. It’s brain dead decision making by someone high up who should be replaced.

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-games-delete-gif-22183983

[slow river]

https://tenor.com/view/just-get-in-the-coffin-gif-24008491

[chilly shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-stella-rae-horrible-no-good-so-bad-gif-20251858

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-garbage-bubbadub-bubbadubcomedy-gif-27016323

[swift snow]

I’m kind of done spending… as a lvl 72 I’ve spent too much, definitely not as much as others but still too much. This new alliance tournament revamp has really been a joy killer.

[woven geode]

Ironically they run an event "Invite players back" and follow that with a "drive players away" event. To me inviting a previous player back to Scopely/STFC is like inviting someone to a restaurant where they got food poisoning.🤮🤢😷

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-cheetor-uninstall-that-uninstall-beast-wars-gif-22084452

[tawdry moat]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-gif-5182109299625444068

[grand bison]

Is it just me...or did they actually work on the repair lag? I can actually repair a ship without waiting every klick 😄 I mean seems like they did at least one thing right

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/complete-trash-so-far-riggs-this-is-trash-just-pure-garbage-riggs-gaming-gif-23567631

[remote flume]

This is so real. Scopely continues to kill the game with each new arc and then wonders why people are quitting in droves.

[hybrid vapor]

They killed incursions,,, they killed the ally tournament…. They the fun …. this i not a game anymore .. It's just become a platform to squeeze money out of players with minimal investment…. STFC is dead… i will stop spend money….

[steady plover]

I was going to get the battlepass and 1 or maybe 2 £100 packs today. Not anymore.

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burn-letitburn-gif-11493949

[tawdry moat]

They’re slowly taking whatever we had for free, in a desperate attempt to make players spend. Won’t work, only thing that will happen is this

[lean notch]

My thought when I logged in today was - I'm think I'm just going to quit

[severe oar]

we can say what we like - SCOPLEY DO NOT CARE. We dont spend enough to register on thier radar

[rugged sand]

Who actually thought 15000 to 1 exchange rate was a good idea? Even Karl Marx would have said Nah fam

[inner comet]

they hate it when people dont complain hard enough so gotta pull stuff like that

[somber sparrow]

If the idea is to pull all the fun out of the game and drive players away....
Great job!!! Home run!!

[vale scroll]

its 15 to 1 in rerolls, not 15000...

[junior lava]

Well at least they can delete my feedback;)

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-trash-throw-pure-trash-gif-12136968495432027285 @rigid vapor

[bleak gale]

broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo please just give me 20 theres ligit no way fro me to clear out this 80 like its gonna bother me 12k=80 but please just the 20 this is bouta bother me***

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/solid-waste-garbage-trash-dump-site-gif-16581864

[alpine condor]

https://tenor.com/view/hitchhikersguidetothegalaxy-dolphin-so-long-thanks-for-all-the-fish-gif-19528108

[rugged sand]

It’s 15000 for 100 or 150 to 1. We both aren’t matching well today.

[warm saffron]

Maybe we should all put up a 7 day shield and not log in for a week and nobody spend any more money.

[cosmic anvil]

Clear to me why the server mergers were indefinitely delayed - $copely counts that there won’t be players left to merge

[rocky wedge]

So here is my perspective. I have gamed for over 40 years and seen alot of games with the associated leadership and development teams. I came to STFC because I love the Star Trek 'universe'. I have been in the game 10 months and spent $5k. My discretionary income allows me to do that. However, while I would have been happy to keep spending if the game had been even in a 'reasonable' state, I will not be spending another cent on the game and the reasons for this are simple. Firstly, I will not give my money to an organisation that shows by its repeated actions significant and increasing disrespect for its player base over a prolonged period of time. The second reason is that this game is broken. The cumulative impact of bugs, lag, poor loop/arc design choices (such as the current AT Tournament changes) have hit a critical mass where playing the game is a lot less enjoyable. I will change my play style to log in and do the bare minimum primarily supporting my alliance on events for 4-6 months to see if Scopely are able to get things back on track. If not I will simply move on fully to other games, and I am completely relaxed about that, if that is the outcome. What is unfortunate is that with different leadership and design decisions this game could have been great and made a lot more money than the current path it is on will create.

[tidal shale]

Yeah I've said that myself in the last 2 or 3 years they don't ever get back on track

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-garbage-derrick-acosta-mega64-rubbish-worthless-gif-17269909

[vernal wolf]

very kindly expressed

[ionic spear]

https://tenor.com/view/addiction-disease-gif-9730943

[bleak gale]

MAN id love to see how many i have lol

[timber root]

https://klipy.com/gifs/save-your-money-gucci-mane-1--k01KQWVMN40686F2JXV8R6DSVDD

[gloomy rain]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-on-you-linda-partridge-magnolia-you-should-know-better-how-could-you-gif-1417292628904816957

[fresh cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[unreal jolt]

<@&509690795536941056> Scopely have killed Incursions, COTA and now AT's... this is honestly worse than everything that got thrown at us last year. This is the true Year of Hell... Absolutely disgraceful state of game

[thorny ruin]

<@&509690795536941056> is there something that can be done about the refresh token to sigma refresh token conversion rate
For 15k refresh tokens I got only 100 sigma tokens and it cost 100 to re-roll

[vital pawn]

The shards of an officer that they will nerf in the next event, and that I'll never get past t2 isn't the feel good they think it is

[spark rain]

050526

Subject: Feedback on Alliance Tournament and Overall Game Experience

Dear STFC Team,

I am writing to you not only regarding the current Alliance Tournament, but the overall state of the game.

The issue is no longer a single event.
It is the combination of multiple factors that are increasingly frustrating players across the board:

• A high number of bugs and technical issues
• Unreliable or inconsistent game mechanics
• Complex and confusing event structures
• A growing lack of clarity and transparency in how events work

The current Alliance Tournament is just one example of a broader problem.

The event system has become so complicated that many players struggle to understand it.
And frankly, it sometimes feels as if even the developers themselves are having difficulty maintaining or correcting it.

As a result:

• Motivation within alliances is dropping
• Long-time players are considering leaving the game
• The focus is shifting away from enjoyment toward frustration

This is not about difficulty – players accept challenges.
But complexity without clarity leads to disengagement.

What we need is:

• Simpler, clearer event structures
• More reliable mechanics
• Faster and more transparent bug fixes
• A stronger focus on gameplay experience instead of monetization pressure

We are not writing this out of anger, but out of concern.
Many of us have invested a lot of time into this game and into our communities.

But at the moment, the direction is causing more frustration than enjoyment.

We hope you take this feedback seriously.

Best regards
KHAN Alliance Leadership

[dapper seal]

"After evaluating player feedback, we found that the conversion rate was indeed too generous. Going forwards, you will receive 100 Sigma reroll tokens for every 25,000 reroll tokens spent. Unfortunately, due to a newly introduced minor bug, your will have to exchange them 5,000 at a time. we apologize for the inconvenience."

[grave quest]

In the words of Graf von Krolok,

So bald euer nächstes Jahrtausend beginnt,
ist der einzige Gott, dem [Scopely] dient,
Die unstillbare Gier.

[fresh cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/you-what-wtf-disgusted-repulsed-reaction-gif-9521897686579036997

[vocal plover]

RIP STFC. It was a good run. Great times. Let it die

[cyan isle]

I had 720 rerolls converted to 40. Enjoy the middle finger they gave us

[vale scroll]

My point was that 15000 represented 15 refreshes, now it's 1 from the exchange.

Thus, 15 - 1 exchange rate

[rugged sand]

This is the purest example of Scopely math. We all knew there was a problem, but…

[full gate]

Anyone else have some good suggestions for a new game? This one is no longer fun. Everyday is a new nightmare.
Suggestions welcome. Let get some new games suggested and walk away from the trash.

[timber root]

Literally any other game. Even good old Star Trek Online is better than this.

[dapper seal]

Go Buy "Adorable Adventures" on steam and spend two to three hours detoxing yourself by running around a nature park as a baby boar. yes, i'm serious

[severe oar]

time to dust off the Xbox..........

[muted hamlet]

I am still deciding whether to quit the game. I have already decided I am not touching this nonsense fake excuse for an alliance tournament. Not even a task. It's a worthless waste of my time. Great job, guys!! You're on a heckuva roll this month.

[full gate]

Thinking about EVE online maybe. Is it any good?

[hybrid vapor]

The Dead Horse Theory

The basic rule of management is: "When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount."However, in business and government, many other strategies are often tried, such as

Buying a stronger whip.
Changing riders.Appointing a committee to study the horse.
Visiting other countries to see how they ride dead horses.
Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
Re-classifying the dead horse as "living impaired.
"Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
Harnessing several dead
horses together to increase speed.
Providing additional funding and/or training to increase the dead horse's performance.
Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse's performance.
Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead, and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.

Look like the strategie paper from the scopely management😅

[boreal flame]

burnig your money and watching it is the better option instead of paying greedopely

[full gate]

I might try Diablo 4. I heard they are greedy but not as bad Suckopely

[exotic field]

Feedback: maybe stop messing with the game you bloody dodos. Stop trying to "improve" things that were fine ( like AT, Officer depot tokens) and start fixing things that are broken..I would list the broken parts but there is whole channel dedicated to them in known issues

[dapper seal]

i highly recommend you go for path of exile (1 if you like going fast, 2 if you hate being fast and want dodge rolls instead of proper movement skills) instead.

[unreal jolt]

Should straight up just add the whole game to the known issues channel at this point 😜

[timber root]

@full gate Both Eve Online and Diablo 4 are good, though not for everyone. Both are a lot less greed-driven than STFC. Not that it's a high bar to clear 🤣

[vocal hill]

New DLC story is awesome honestly. And you don't have to spend besides buying the base game + expansions in order to progress.

[hybrid vapor]

I think its time to switch back
to PS5 and play doom or god of war… this games cost less then a stfc packages … make fun… an works without bugs…

[drowsy inlet]

God of war...great game

[timber root]

<@&509690795536941056> Currently for 100€ I can get: Clair Obscur Expedition 33 (last year's GOTY and honestly one of the best games ever), Crimson Desert (very strong contender for this year's GOTY), Far Far West (very, very fun game) and Hollow Knight Silksong.

Yes, ALL of these, not just one. For the price of one your (insert rude word I think very strongly about that starts with an S but can't post without being banned for 3 days) lousy packs.

That's your competition and your competition is winning. HARD.

[muted hamlet]

Any similarish mobile multiplayer type games? This game checks a lot of boxes for me lifestyle wise, which is why it's hard to jump off

[quick coral]

For $15 you can get the Henry Stickman Collection on Steam for a bunch of wacky crazy simple games that will leave you wanting to play them over and over to uncover all the different outcomes. More enjoyment for less cost.

[severe oar]

and I bet you cannot afford the "Bridge Jumping Pack".........

[frank stag]

Scopley: You just went through a big push trying to get players back by giving incentives to active players. I take that as an admission that you see the plyers leaving and it affecting your revenue. So my question is why? You have not fixed game stability and are dead set on making changes that drive even more away.... are you hoping for a loss so you get a tax break? New AT is just another example

[vivid nebula]

If this game was a sick animal you’d put it down, for the love of god do the same to this game

[full gate]

STFC is no longer fun. Aggravating and frustrating and it's the buggy lag, glitches, nerfing things I paid for, things not scoring/working. I have just had enough. Most frustrating of all is the Scopely company and greed.

[boreal flame]

When even Haywire doenst want to spend money on the game, you really messed up scopely. 😄

[vocal hill]

I just looked up the costs and Diablo 4 is on sale on Steam until May 19th. You can get the base game plus the 2 expansions for $69.99

If you prefer to use their launcher (Battle.net) the bundle of all 3 is also $69.99

There are a couple premium packages that will give you fun cosmetics for like 20 or 30 bucks more.

Unlike this game they've actually listened to their player base and made a ton of QOL changes since the game dropped and continue to do so every season.

[boreal flame]

playing the diablo 4 season right now its absolutly fantastic

[muted hamlet]

Not sure what that is. But money isn't really the issue as much as mobile playability for me.

[timber root]

EVE Echoes, Infinite Lagrange, Second Galaxy. Got no experience with any of those though so cannot recommend any honestly 😉

[lusty roost]

Why is it that whenever Scopley changes something about the game it is always for the worst and detriment to the players? Battle passes that appear then disappear, Armada nodes that break and wont let you start them, kisharas that just decide its time to take a break and do nothing. How many of those players you had us try to convince to come back to this buggy money muggy pile of crap do nyou expect to retain with how you are running it?
We now have a $1000 AT event you want us to spend on....good Luck with that

[grave quest]

i’m honestly thinking of putting what i would have spent here into getting pragmata. I heard it referred to as a “dad-game” 😂

[cyan isle]

The ka’shara ticks me off. It’s false advertising. Especially when they ask for 100 bucks for it. It doesn’t work. They’re ripping people off selling broken goods. And won’t fix it

[golden violet]

https://tenor.com/view/coffin-dance-gif-18050258

[spiral ledge]

Thank you for voicing this. I’ve been playing for 7 years. This game has helped me through some rough patches in my life, especially the passing of my mother and father. The members in my alliance had been there for me to just vent and be welcomed. I love the style of playing and growth of ships this game offers. I would spend $100-$600 a month if the game/items fell in the path of what my goals were to obtain.
Over the last 4-5 months my spending reduced to under $100 a month and now the last 2 months it’s been ZERO spending. My money is worth more in my pocket than supporting a company that disrespects its customers/players.
The lack of accountability, care and respect to the players is abysmal. Scoply has proven more then anything that the words they tell us mean nothing and treat us like we’re stupid and have short term memory loss to the promises they present to us.
We don’t forget, how can we when it’s month after month of horrible gameplay due to all the issues, let alone the enormous amount of content that requires monetization.
Scoply, I want to spend money on the game. I really do. But I must first respect myself before I give you money. Treat your players - ALL players with respect. We’re your customers for goodness sake. Do the right thing and you’ll earn my money again.

Sorry for the rant y’all. 🙏🏼

[fluid mist]

and to think thats just very recent games if you take games from 7-8years ago stfc age you could get way more for less and still have 99% less bugs than stfc and still getting updates to those games too rofl

[thin stump]

Why does Scopely continually try to aggravate its player base? This AT change, forcing people to spend in order to complete 20k tasks and making 10k tasks harder to find, is beyond insane. GJ Scopely, burn the world!

[vital pawn]

Two videos with Becks isn't gonna turn this around. Yikes

[lusty roost]

I have a proposal for next months Arc....Starship Troopers!
No new content, no new ships, no new buildings, no new currency...
The entire Arc is about** killing bugs** so we might actually want to play new content that may need tweaking cause all the other things work as intended.

[errant brook]

STFC is in harvest mode - they will squeeze all money out they can get and switch over to maintenance when they dont hit their sales anymore.

It's a dead horse.

[storm oracle]

Seems we lost 3 70+ Players with the new Arc, amazing Scopeley

[opaque steeple]

Pretty sure they just hit maintenance with this arc 🙂

Killed every spender in my alliance.

[gusty bone]

As a long term player, I’m disappointed in the recent direction of the game's economy. While I’ve always been happy to support the game financially, the "squeeze" has become too aggressive.

The Problem: Strategic play is being replaced by spending requirements (specifically in Alliance Tournaments).

Resource Throttling: Stripping out choice rewards and Officer tokens to force spending is hurting player morale.

The Limit: My budget is £20/month. Previously, this felt rewarding; now, it feels like it barely moves the needle.

The game is losing the "fun factor" because it feels like every system is now designed to bleed the player dry rather than reward engagement.

[foggy elm]

Perhaps extricate GM Conor from his undisclosed location and address the player population? Haven't heard nor seen a peep from him in months.

[fluid mist]

don't be sorry you're allowed your opinion even if they decide to try to silence you due to the discards t.o.s.

As for how much each person spends per month playing this game 0$ or 5k doesn't make a difference where scopley seems to fail to realize if a person pays to get something right away or a person decides to grind 16hrs a day 7 days a week for 6-9months to get the same thing both people should be valued for the money and the time they spent on the game showing the investors that you have a product that draws activity. Yet scopley has decided that its the money that means more and all of the players who spend hours and hour and hours on this game doesn't equate to the same level of value. That's fine maybe these players will slow down or stop and then we'll see how scopley can explain to the board why they went from 250k active daily players to 2k (whales/spenders) or 1-2% of the whole playerbase

[errant brook]

then we might have the shutdown in 2027. Hopefully conor get's fired.

[spiral ledge]

Oh I couldn’t agree more! Reason I apologized for the rant is because I got off from a 3 day Discord band due to me voicing my opinion. Scoply didn’t like that. But I’m back lol

[lunar ocean]

Scopely is officially the most anti-consumer company in gaming history. Also they hate America... and every other country besides Saudi Arabia. I got banned for "bypassing the filter" before, but now Scopely's logo is basically a middle finger.

I dread the day this expands to Pokémon GO.

[brittle tundra]

I’m closing down both accounts! Good luck everyone 👋🏻

[maiden flicker]

Big congrats to Scopely, you may have successfully killed your game 😂. Shocked they haven’t gone belly up at this point.

[sick bone]

Scopley's mastermind at work what can we break this time and make the customers pay more for playing our bugged out lagged out game, I know let's make them buy a battle pass to earn the compensation rewards for us breaking everything."

[ebon pewter]

Should reverse the new account scrapping released this arc.

[mild thicket]

Should reverse this entire arc.

While the mechanics of the arc are sound, the rewards, the nerfs, the lies is just too much

[clever snow]

Gz Scopy, you kill next event - AT.

[full gate]

-Removed cota
-Removed choice rewards
-Removed choices for officer depot tokens
-Killed Leslie, nerfed more officers
-bugged gs31 beam they wont fix
-bugged Kishara they wont fix
-scrapping time is basically a joke.... 2 years to scrap all my duplicate ships..
-$200 AT tasks? No fricken way
-constant bugs
-events not scoring
-everyday is a new bug or another punitive decision made by Suckopely
-dreading turning on the game to see what new nightmare changes or bugs there are.
-greed, greed, more greed
-laughable compensation packages
-diminishing rewards

I don't see the game progressing in a positive direction and any money spent will be a lost investment when the game gets shut down. What a fool I was to put in ANY money. I have a huge case of Schadenfreude and the only cure for that is to WALK AWAY.

I was a whale or maybe a large dolphin. Some months I might spend $2000. at least $1000/month minimum. What a waste. I could be a whale in six different games with that money and have a lot less frustration. I am quitting. I will do ,minimums for a while to see if things change but I don't have high hopes. A RADICAL change is needed. I won't be spending until I see it. Realistically, I am already looking for new games to play. I give it a month or two before I archive my account and walk away.

[vocal pollen]

WTF??? Alliance tournament is dead for me. I think any additional word on this topic is a waste.

[manic pier]

I'm an ops 70 player I'm not having fun anymore after seeing this AT the choice for me to leave this game is constantly on my mind

[tidal shale]

I walked away a week ago and just watching the dumpster fire from afar. It's actually kind of nice

[fierce heron]

To not hear, what players are saying, although the players pay their checks, is definitely insane and they do not deserve other than being unemployed in short time.

[tawdry coral]

Incursion ☠️
Alliance tournament ☠️

I spent a heck of a lot more before they pushed you to spend for everything. I'm ops 70.5, and have little interest in further spending without considerable, player-friendly changes.

The sad thing is they know and have reiterated our concerns quite eloquently. To continue to make things worse is a willful choice.

You cannot convince me they're not trying to tank the game at this point.

[sharp swan]

Same here

[patent nest]

I’ve decided not to spend any more on this game, just playing for free

[twilit oar]

Another thing ruined by scopemy pushing for the cash rather than creating something you'd be happy to spend your money on. Im done now. Gonna give the game one last go and be done of these things keep happening.

[sacred pawn]

well done on the fantastic release of more 💩

[tidal shale]

🤣🤣🤣 I'm sure there's a lot of tough times with those finances

[civic quest]

Dear Scopely/Digit and <@&509690795536941056>

In April, I just hit 4 years since returning to STFC. Every month since I've purchased the $20 BP Elite track, bonus BPs and probably averaged ~$200-$300 in monthly spend in this game. Even through the frustrations of this extremely buggy, horrible anti-consumer gameplay with insanely overpriced content...I've continued to play (and purchase) because I enjoy the core gameplay and community here in STFC.

However, I only spent ~$60 last month. This month? For the first time, you will not get a single penny from this player. Not even the $20 Elite BP!

You dont know how (or refuse) to fix your lag issues and the core "tick" system that most likely the root of server/client networking issues. Instead of fixing, you nerf impulse speed in arenas, ignore beaming lag with Cube/GS31, ignore Cube tracking in systems (arenas & PVE grinding), constantly introducing new bugs, reintroducing old bugs, breaking officer buffs or completely nerfing out right (#FreeLeslie). Overly monetized Alliance Tournaments, introduce new and repetitive grinds without quickly allowing players to archive older content. So much potential in the Independent Archives building.

I want you as a company to make money, but the level of greed and monetization would make a Ferengi blush. When you have no more customers, you have no more game.

My limit is nearing, I feel this community's limit is nearing and it's sad to think this game is nearing the end with how it being run into the ground.

[rotund tulip]

Everyone is complaining about the changes to the AT, but what good are these credits in the end if there's nothing worthwhile to buy? Its just sad. I feel like they try to sell us old stuff as brand new.

[graceful cedar]

Well, alliance tournament has been floating in the toilet for a few months now, they finally flushed it. We are witnessing the death of STFC in real time.

[austere geode]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-month-middle-yIxNOXEMpqkqA

[empty dawn]

People probably didn't even get to the Tournament Store because they didn't get past the massive task limitations in first place.

Imagine seeing you can barely do any task, you have very limited task rerolls and you have to deal with the massive f'kups Scopely implemented in the last 2 patches. I'm not even bothered/worried about the Tournament Store at this point

[silk loom]

You didn't go far enough you should include Paramount in the "not a penny" attitude and write them about it. Scopely is actually soiling the whole Star Trek franchise and Paramount with their actions.

[hollow torrent]

Hey Scopely, time for another player survey where we tell you how frustrated we all are with the 💩 that the game is turning into that you’ll then totally ignore because let’s face it, you’re only interested in fleecing whales now. The last two arcs have been nothing but a blatant cash grab, the game is going down the pan faster and faster.
Nerf any more in game things and it’s just about dead. Oh, and bring back the choice tokens so we can actually do some of the tournament events!!!

[fluid mist]

ya I have 260k of old currency and nothing worthwhile to spend it on except officer badges and they tripled the cost and reduced the trades for those as well so I say to myself nope won't even spend that currency A.T. is dead and thats the last nail in stfc coffin on what was keeping me around. Now its just me alliance and many of us are saying we just gonna ride until they maintenance the game and I'm sure we ain't the only ones on my server as well as many others. Scopley wanted to make money so badly they killed a game and community that was throwing money at them already even though theyade mistakes. They decided to change the last few things they did for the better and that was what they shouldn't have done oh well they'll learn for the next project or continue to make the same mistakes.

[civic quest]

You make a great point because I'd recently heard that with the new Paramount/Skydance acquisition that they are squeezing current license holders for higher licensing fees. Was the reason the developers of the Star Trek: Resurgence game was delisted from all game platforms...they couldn't pay the new fees that were being demanded.

[keen loom]

No no no. I want my Delorean. Back 2 The Future!

[balmy shadow]

No way, the train at the end of the 3rd movie!

[vapid robin]

Next arc should be an Orville crossover since the sarris invasion one got ignored to death
Happy arbor day 😉

[flint oriole]

I would like to express my appreciation for the change to the Alliance icon while a tournament is occurring. I often forget to participate, and that is a very good visual reminder.

[meager hollow]

I got no better feedback to give you guys, than what can be seen in this image below - losing players steadily over the last month

[cyan isle]

They took away server merge. They took away Leslie. They took away alliance tournaments. They took away choice tokens. They took away the fun in the game.

[tawdry coral]

What really stinks is that this is a genuinely fun gaming community. We might have our squabbles and not get along with a few peeps, but overall.. the community is a far cry above many other gaming communities as far as support, friendship, team work etc. It is a real shame to watch the community dwindle because of greed.

[coral dagger]

I've seen communities in other games devolve into Catfish Simulator

[hollow torrent]

Scopely, have your ears spontaneously combusted yet?

[full gate]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-junk-luke-skywalker-gif-13888501

[tawdry coral]

Same 😅

[cyan isle]

Scopley. Let me give you some marketing advice. You drive away all the low spenders. And f2p. There’s no one for the whales to wanna gobble up if they all quit.……….

[grizzled topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509688840282308608/1501262523008024749/aqza9u.png?ex=69fb6f2d&is=69fa1dad&hm=42e64c3d6454407e657c44c9aebd5d6b2f74d877a235ab4d0cc63d4295c9cb6d&

[stiff latch]

They have definitely nerfed the heck out of this event. It almost makes me not want to do it. If I didn't need 16 Command Badges and 4 Engineering badges I probably wouldn't.

[lilac oar]

Would someone please explain how the math works in the MACO Overtime event?????

[tawdry coral]

It also bears saying, dolphins and whales are highly social creatures. Take away their friends and communities and they really have no reason to throw cash at the game other than to be lonely at the top.

As players we've gamed with for years drop, it definitely takes a toll on morale. My partners in shenanigans make the grinds bearable. Our alliances are what make the game fun. Founding members quitting or silent quitting because the game is unplayable and predatory has hurt their bottom line as well.

[silk loom]

Especially after they narrowed the range of player level you can hit. Without low and ftp the whales will get bored and go spend their money where it is truly appreciated.

[grizzled topaz]

so 20 badges with the new prices of the badges and the reduced payout for tasks it will probably only take you 3-4 alliance tournaments to get them good luck

[vital pawn]

Maybe I got this crazy idea, but just maybe, maybe only engaging with players on your vip discord is causing a skewed priority focus

[lilac oar]

Am i missing something? 755.5K points to Complete MACO Overtime event. You get 1 point per minute of speedups or repairs used. (Carry the 1.......) Thats 12,591.7 hours of speedups and repairs you need to complete the event. Did Scopely forget how to use a calculator?

[dense wharf]

@tazman3417 paramount put out Academy, they are also terrible for Star Trek.

[runic patrol]

Yes

[timber root]

More feedback on AT <@&509690795536941056> ... At this point it seems like our entire alliance (85 people) is on the verge of quitting ...

[neon atlas]

That's a very G-rated version compared to what I've seen 😆

[stiff latch]

You're probably right. You know the really sad part about all of this is. Individual player rewards got nerfed but alliance rewards got better. This translates into Scopely not having to lift a finger, the alliance will pressure the individual players into completing tasks for the good of the alliance. It's already happened to me since pointing out that individual player rewards got nerfed.

[radiant terrace]

It’s been bad here. Now i think the whole server is on the verge of quitting, including me. Tournament was the only thing left that i looked forward to

[silk loom]

You now get a reminder because it will cost you $200 dollars to complete a 20k task.

[lofty totem]

I just feel really sad, I have enjoyed the game, our alliance and my friends. It looks like it is all coming to an end. I really enjoyed the game and regularly bought packs, not a whale, more dolphin like, but it doesn't bring me the joy it did.

[tawdry coral]

A bit like watching a good friend pass.

[silk loom]

I've already informed my alliance that I'm not participating at all in tournaments.

[radiant sand]

<@&509690795536941056> - Multiple people in my alliance are talking about quitting because of ruining tournaments. One of our whales doesn't want to spend right now because of all the bugs this release, and the tournament disaster. I'm not a whale, but I've bought multiple $100 packs. I've just locked my wallet until tournaments is fixed. I went from doing all 10K tasks, to struggling to do anything. Between removing choice tokens and nerfing rerolls nothing I can do.
I've NEVER seen my alliance chat so negative as I have with Arc 90.
Tournaments were my monthly highlight for all the freebies I got, and it it gone

[coral dagger]

We're -6 members in the last week and at least 4 more openly talking about quitting right now

[vivid ginkgo]

we should all just reviewbomb the game. worked for other games as well

[lilac oar]

I stopped spending about three bald faced lies ago. (3 Years) Scopley needs to learn that we are the customer. If they want coustomers they have to treat them like they matter.

[dense wharf]

https://youtu.be/a4-LldCwsNY?si=Gb_A2pEFIA_DgiHN

Scopely needs to listen to this video.

[lean crypt]

Burn it all down!

[slate tartan]

It feels like that, but it’s usually less about a company trying to “mess with” players and more about how free-to-play live service games are designed to operate.

Scopely runs Star Trek Fleet Command as a live service, which means the game is constantly updated—not just for fun, but to keep engagement and revenue flowing. That creates a few tensions with the playerbase:

1. Monetization drives design
   Updates often introduce new systems, currencies, or progression layers. These are usually built to encourage spending (or at least more playtime). Even if most players say they don’t want them, they can still increase revenue from a smaller group of paying players (“whales”), which heavily influences decisions.

2. Data over forum feedback
   Developers don’t rely only on what players say on Reddit/Discord. They look at internal data: retention, spending, activity. Sometimes that data suggests a change is “successful” even if vocal players dislike it.

3. Content treadmill problem
   If nothing changes, players get bored and leave. So updates keep coming—new arcs, mechanics, events—even if not all of them land well. Standing still is actually riskier for them than pushing unpopular updates.

4. Different player segments want different things
   Hardcore players, casual players, and spenders all want different experiences. An update that frustrates one group might be aimed at another.

5. Licensing pressure
   Because it’s a Star Trek game, there’s also pressure to keep adding themed content (new ships, characters, story arcs), which can lead to feature creep.

⸻

The honest downside:
Games like this can drift into feeling grindy or pay-heavy, and developers sometimes underestimate how frustrating certain changes are until backlash hits.

The honest upside:
Without frequent updates and monetization, a game like this often wouldn’t stay online or get new content at all.

[mental yew]

Please, please please, fix the issue before changing things that work.

So many people quitting or just going inactive as all the fun is being sucked out the game.

I used to enjoy incursion now with timing I may get one or two hours to play and it’s been destroyed.

I used to go hard on tournament now that appears to have been destroyed.

And alliance chat is still not working! It’s a social game! The loss of that social interaction is hurting the game more than anything else.

I logged in this morning and as chat wasn’t working and nothing I could do in tournament just logged out again.

[clever wadi]

I’m thinking about quoting the game now as AT was the only thing keeping me on and I’m not a big spender I do buy bp each month and I have bought a few ships too I think messing with Alliance Tournaments is the only thing that was worth waiting for.

[brazen patrol]

At least 5 of our alliance's members have announced they're quitting since monday, all ops65-72
3 more are openly strongly considering it
And I haven't even counted myself in those numbers

You really really really went too far with killing events, creating a pay2play arc and whatever else you changed to actively disgust your playerbase.
Our server was supposed to merge but I don't think after the merge you'd have half a server population as active players.
STFC is truly dead.
And we've been screaming why for months

[steel ridge]

@finite mural any idea when borg event will come back? Players still own currency in it so if we're going to retire it be good to announce and bring it back once

[twin tendon]

you forget the real reason players are upset
the not fixed bugs , the lag what get worse every day , the not existing stability of the game , the insulting lies from the stfc team
so you defo one of the team trying lieto players game need be broken and greedy or no game
no one buy the story

[hollow torrent]

Exactly the same here, have asked if anyone wants my admirals’ chair, but at the rate things are going, it’s going to be pick someone at random to promote then hit the air lock

[hollow sundial]

This game is dying. The communities that make the game what it is are on life support - this game that I have enjoyed played (for the most part) for the last 7 years feels like the end is drawing near. The current course Scopely is taking is suicide for the future of this game. Is this intentional, are they trying to kill the game off? It sure feels that way as I cannot find any other logical explanation for any of what we have seen so far in 2026.

I’ve come to realise that the game is now beyond me these days both in time required to make a decent dent in the daily load and the money it demands you to invest just to be able to participate in the new content, let alone progress. And this is coming from an ops 71 player.

The result is I’ve gone from being a light but regular spender of maybe £200-£400 per month (BP and few packs each month) to being a complete non-spender. As of Patch 89. There are many others like me out there too. I no longer stress about not doing all the events and due to time constraints that RL places on my game time, there are some days where I miss an event or two entirely… the bottom line is that I have stopped caring!

Scopely’s insanity and greed has effectively turned small spenders into non-spenders and they now solely rely on the big spenders to survive. However, I understand simple economics and I’m certain that the games revenue will be falling through the floor. 5,000 casual spenders at £200 p/m is far more to them than 500 players shelling out £1000 p/m as an example. Basic economics!

The new content is becoming more and more ‘aggressive’ in its £££ demands and that when you know things are getting more dicey behind the scenes for Scopely worryingly. When the walls are closing in, you behave desperately and irrationally and you stop listening to reason.

It is with regret that I now hold the view that this games days are numbered 😔

[grave quest]

this is a very fair and truthful. the issue we are having now is not “we don’t want to spend” it’s “we don’t want to spend on something so fundamentally broken” no one here should expect a bug free experience. as you correctly point out, it’s the nature of the beast. what i can’t stand is the blatant contempt we are being shown over months. lesliegate, at, choice tokens, less value / more paying for battle pass, impossible to win hostiles and arcs (unless you paid out the bottom for certain officers to be maxed or got that latest CT), and so on… Sphere - useless. excel - almost useless…. it’s reached a point that enough is enough. scopely needs to decide to let the ship sink or make sweeping changes to keep her afloat.

[tawdry coral]

I have no problem spending.

I have a problem spending freely with little or no progress, and then they just nerf the progress in the next update.

I have a problem spending when that's the only way to compete, or complete arcs.

I have a problem spending when the game crashes multiple times a day (10+ if you are trying to turn in officer shards, chests, etc), and features that are so bugged they actively make the game harder (looking at you, kirshara, in waves).

Spending isn't the issue. I didn't get to 70 f2p.

[cloud kiln]

I think they have finally broken the game. 🥳

[slate tartan]

I understand what you saying the point is that absolutly … no one at Scopley reads these discords. And certainly not the managers who decide things in game . They look at datasheets . So we can all blow up on discord and I do sometimes also to let out the steam … but the only people who are a tad connected towards Scopley … are the moderators and they only really care to ban a person if he or she uploads a picture of the company what they wil suspect won’t be like by Scopley ….

[sand talon]

Thank you for helping so many players finally get their lives back today 🖤

[clever wadi]

Is scopely being serious last month they was asking us to send people who left the game to come back and now they have done this so the people who did come back will be quitting again and it’s pointless venting on here as the so called community managers don’t read them if they did I’m sure they would comment to pass our anger on to them. There are still officers that don’t work bugs in the game which they cba fixing and the only good thing about it is alliance tournaments which they made a spending mechanic makes my blood boil

[supple drum]

I really am quite irritated by the changes to alliance tournament. Please just turn it back to the way it was. At least it was enjoyable. This is pretty miserable. My alliance finally made it to master league but so many of our members can’t find tasks to do and are just ignoring it. There are too few rerolls and it ruins the whole thing. This was a real big misstep. I really try to be optimistic with this game but this is really testing my patience. I think this may be one of those mistakes that you could just take it back and make people happy or you can stick with it and really make people mad and get people to quit.

[rain burrow]

The other day, I paraphrased something a person said in AC... Because it seems to fit the situation, I'm going to repost it, with my own addition based on today's AT:

"The more I'm asked to do, the less I want to do anything. The more I'm asked to spend, the less willing I am to spend anything."

[wide solstice]

After looking at the updated list of 10k and 20k tasks there are still free to play tasks on both not many but some it's the rerolls that's the pain, just scrap the rerolls and let us reroll for free quick and easy way to fix this problem

[sinful idol]

I'd pay money to know how many people have left / archived / deleted this game today. <@&509690795536941056> was this your goal?

[hollow tide]

I don't agree with your view. OK running a live service. But Running a bar is a live service too. If I would run a bar like scopely I would now being asking money for the time my customers sit on their chair. Asking money for them to use the loo. Money for the music and still run around to slap them in the face if I catch them laughing or enjoying them self.

[thin stump]

How about that Borg Sphere? Spend $300.00 to use it for 30min/week. Use it for PvP? EL OH EL, not with that 30min laser cooldown.

$300.00 for Exelcsior? LOLUMAD. It's a 10min a night ship that collects dust outside.

$200.00 for Vindicator? I'm still laughing 2yrs laters at the fools trying to max that dead ship.

$200.00 for Academy? Those jokes still writing itself. I'm going to introduce a slug slow duo and a boring grind for tokens that need to be converted to another token to be redeemed for a specific token. I'm going to token your token with my token.

Alliance Tournament? Well that's a $1,000.00/mo enema if you want that Scopely cleanse.

Now jump through the hoops and give my $50.00 for that joke of a battle pass.

[vale scroll]

I blame the first player who actually paid $99.99 for an in game item! There has been nothing but greed since that day. If the top packs were all 19,99, i would have bought nearly of them over the years i've been playing, but alas bought none as they're overpriced.

[sweet pivot]

I’d give the feedback that the last few patches get a failing grade, but honestly that still feels too generous for the toxic dumpster fire they are.

[grave quest]

anyone who came back to this outhouse show is for sure leaving and never coming back again. but to be fair, it’s not like we had anything good to say to get people to return anyway. i look forward to some stats on how no one actually returned anyway. 😂

[keen escarp]

Man, this is so true. Any of those games beat all Scopely attempts in gaming by far. There is not even an ounce of competition here. 🤣

[drowsy inlet]

not that scopley cares but lost (2) players in my alliance today as well...both high high 60s. this isn't counting the several others ops 61+ that have basically checked out these past few weeks in my alliance as well. they play but barely, dailies only some easy events.

[vivid knoll]

I'm disappointed.

[vast summit]

Scopley has destroyed alliance tournaments because of greed. It was one of the best fun events - now gone! 😔

[orchid timber]

The fact that basically the entire community is incensed because they've been repeatedly slapped in the face this month...and the jokers at scopely haven't uttered one peep about all their intended changes? Well...that actually speaks volumes.

[empty dawn]

Alliance Tournament cancelled yet?

Is the last arc in update 90 being cancelled too?

[frozen delta]

I, for one, would like to say a big thank-you to Scopely. I am glad to see all the poor people quit, as the Lord of my manor the peasant stench was unbearable. If anything, Scopely should charge even more money for everything! Have a fee to log in, a fee to claim any kind of chest, a fee to initiate any kind of ship action. Why not a tax to unload mining ships at our base? Scopely, you are thinking too small! Push harder! We must eliminate all the people from this game who are too cheap to spend a paltry several thousand a month.

[worn wave]

$copely you are trying to kill your own game... and we can't figure out why?

[tawdry coral]

Good Lord ..what have you done? 😮‍💨 Don't put that in their brains lol

[frank stag]

@frozen delta this is the one post Scopley will use in meeting to prove that people love the change

[snow fractal]

Scopley said they wanted to improve game play etc with our feedback. The reality is that their real intention was always $. You can have all the feedback in the world, focus groups or whatever but if you’re not honest about what you want…. This is what you get!!!

[pulsar jasper]

I spent months strategizing a path to catch up with my alliance mates that included Away Teams research to maximize officer shards and selecting the right officers (among other paths.) I was so excited to use the Tourney Points I have been saving on upgrade (c,s,e) badges to upgrade 5 more Elite officers and unlock the next round of goals…

The cost of the commander badges went up over 2x so those of us behind the 70s have to do more than double the work to get what they got because we played too slow. I can’t play certain days of the week for work and family reason, so miss most badge events.

WHY were we punished for creating a plan to use the tourneys to get our badges as compared to the fixed day events? What was the logic and who benefitted from this change? So now months of saving and goal setting is just gone in a poof.

[prime arrow]

I’d argue nobody benefited, but Scopely THOUGHT they’d benefit.

[keen loom]

Huh. Looks like by all accounts Scopley won the day! Way to go Scopley! Most attrition in a single day since launch!!

[orchid timber]

Hey Scopely... On the plus side, you still have time to destroy Pokemon Go! 🤣

[hollow torrent]

<@&509690795536941056> I have a suggestion for Scopely…. Take down Alliance Tournament immediately, despatch it to bin 13, send out full points to compensate everyone for wasting our time, and then next month, reinstate Alliance Tournament in it’s original unadulterated form. A sincere apology for fowling it up and a promise not to neuter it again would also be nice. I won’t be holding my breath obviously, blue is not my colour.

[tardy compass]

Uh, general feedback: stop trying to juice spending by trying to force us to level up faster, or to buy packs to participate. It makes people like me spend less, not more.

If you want to juice spending, try making the game better. Start with faction store bulk claim.

[tawdry coral]

Ironically, I quit that one first 😂

[snow fractal]

Wait I got it… tomorrow we wake up with a new news bulletin….”We heard your feedback about the alliance tournament and understand your frustration this afternoon all players will receive 200 additional sigma refresh credits under gifts in daily claims” 🤣

[fallow flume]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-next-generation-first-contact-picard-rage-gif-927914652863628298

[golden violet]

https://tenor.com/view/xpnrrr-gif-19350973

[sweet knot]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-snw-spock-kirk-angry-gif-18234022086265407214

[tawdry coral]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-next-generation-tng-the-greatest-generation-tgg-gif-22596810

[tiny panther]

So the Ferngi strike again, Alliance tournament = money grab

[coral dagger]

Where Dauntless Parts in Ferengi Store

[sinful socket]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-have-that-kind-of-money-hope-mccrea-annette-otoole-virgin-river-i-dont-have-money-gif-16546729

[lofty musk]

4 people who are 70+ left the game today on my server. Long time players and spenders, should be a huge wake up call to scopely.

[restive sky]

Obviously Scopely knows the game is reaching the end of life, why else would they keep wasting time on short term money grabs instead of the long term health of the games and fix the sluggish and buggy state of the game.

[untold laurel]

The game now is just an experiment to find out who can take the most torture. Not sure who “wins”.

[sweet knot]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-39-dont-tell-customers-more-than-they-need-to-know-star-trek-ferengi-gif-5593066833486158308

[tiny panther]

I have been playing this game since 2019. I have spent more money than I would like to admit spending on this game. Though I did not mind spending $20 on battle pass, it help contribute to the game.. I know I have spent on larger packs too. I am willing to spend money on things that I see value in. At this point I do not see any value in STFC, it looks like Scopely is trying to push the players away with the lack of resolving issues, pushing forward these huge money grab events. I will not spend any more money on this game in its current state. It is sad to see it go this way. I have people that I have enjoyed getting to know over the past 7 years, people I will miss. I am so turned off by Scopely and STFC. I am watching so many other players who feel the same way I do.

[lapis crystal]

Over the last few weeks weve had so many changes in the game with little information and its a shock to the system. Add into the mix that most features are broken, some have been for years, and it is incendiary. We're creatures of habit, and while things do need to change and evolve to stay relevant; this is too much, too fast and too broken. The information we recieved before was very limited, so there isn't anyway to plan or prepare. We are thrown into chaos with broken content, no information and lackluster communication.

The hard truth for players is that money has to be made, this game does not continue if it doesn't turn a profit. A lot of talk is happening about whether the aim is to force a shutdown, but lets be real; if they wanted to shut it down they wouldn't still be paying people to create new arcs, content, interactions etc. It would be maintenance and then lights out. There has to be (amongst other things) a focus in any business model to make money; we do not have a game otherwise. Making money isnt bad, regardless of what you think of the content (a conversation in of itself); it is still being invested in, there is still hope.

Now to scopely/devs/GM - your product needs to be worth the price you attach. Currently, it isnt. You've been in panic survival mode since spending dropped and are pumping more and more purchase driven content into the game to bump up spending, instead of trying to find out how to make a better more valuable product. There are so many ways you could do this; small focus groups on each server from G3+ based on playing time, for example. Spend a bit of time talking to them, find out what their experience is and learn from it. What are the actual issues, where needs focus, where doesnt; who needs what realistically. The player base would most likely find it easier to accept the money drive if the game was worth the price point, it would be easier to be forgiving and patient when things dont go according to plan at launch if they felt valued and listened to.

[bold marlin]

I’d offer constructive feedback but people far more eloquent and more knowledgeable about the game, certainly more knowledgeable than Scopely at least, have done so in the past and are routinely ignored, so I shall not waste my time.

All these moves have done have further cement my choice since the ‘quality over quantity’ lie, and lets be clear it was a lie, to never give money to you ever again. You simply don’t deserve it and I wouldn’t trust with scissors any one that does give you money. They’re clearly in need of help.

[onyx sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/greed-gif-112274260317000307

[lapis crystal]

The latest trigger point for the player base meltdown is Alliance Tournament 2.0...

Yes, AT was original described and rolled out as; F2P scores low while P2P scores big. If this is an aim to return to the big points being behind a pay wall, there was a way to do that without further pushing the players away; keep AT as it was and introduce the new 20k "sigma" tasks. Both sides of the coin would have gotten what they wanted. The way its been done instead punishes F2P by excluding them, again its not necessarily about making money that is causing the anger; its the way you're doing it.

Every choice that's been made to protect the bottom line has been at the expense of the average player. This is where the push back comes from. It isnt about "you shouldnt make money", its the mentality of punishing the average player for finding ways to exist and be competetive while remaining locked on the free side of the pay wall. Every method that players find to succeed without spending is a way that has been allowed, for a long time. It is not right to punish us for what you allowed and created, because thats what it is; punishment. You arent just/only doing something to try and increase spending, you're also simultaneously removing the only methods F2P has to actually manage in this game.

Any other business that consistently provides a broken, high price product would be out of business pretty quickly; this game has an extremely loyal and dedicated player base, stop abusing it and start utilising it. There is a very symbiotic relationship here; the game doesnt exist without profit, the profit doesnt exist without the player base, the player base doesnt exist without the game.

Look after your players and they will look after your bottom line for you. You're not Ferengi's, are you? 😅

[lofty musk]

Basically it’s too many big changes trying to squeeze more out of players without any explanation

[pulsar jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-sad-panda-peetie-south-park-crying-disappointed-gif-21544015

[near forum]

Dont worry they brick player base in a few more months then shut it down so they can focus on new games

[weary elm]

its the opposite of our feedback

[errant girder]

You need a glass of wine to turn that frown upside down.

[vital pawn]

I say this as someone who didn't think the last incursions was awful... huge miss on the armadas but the other stuff engaged the entire servers, not just a few whales beating up farms... There was somethng to build on... But this tournament has absolutely no redeeming value. I swear the cost of a badge went up too... just hamfisted greed.

[pulsar jasper]

You know I am a beer drinker!! Everyone on stfc does 🙂

[weary elm]

Incursions for my server and the opposition was boring! It was so hard to find PvP. At least Base raiding attracted PvP (before the change) because points were on the line.

[obtuse pollen]

Aight. I commented elsewhere that I enjoyed the tournaments. I take that back 110%. This new tournament is a joke. All the bugs introduced over the last month is horrible. The incursion changes was the dumbest thing I've seen. It's like Scopely saw the remaining few fun things that kept me wanting to play this game, took them out back, and shot them like old yeller.

The suggestion? Revert the game back to what it was 3 months ago. It had good events, things that mostly.. Well sometimes worked, and it was enjoyable.

[vital pawn]

We've had the opposite problem. Every server we play, it's like the best 20 people and everyone drops a 3 day... finding anyone who isn't primed up or 65+ was impossible for like 5-6 in a row. We know top alliances threatened KOS for anyone who came out to fight... It's been awful for someone at 60 for half a year to get fights that weren't too high or just beating up smalls (before the range adjustement). YMMV is fair

[thin stump]

You know it's bad when they got to turn the dial up on slowmode lol

[scarlet fjord]

When you talk about making money I get your point of view that they need to make money. If you want to go that route charge everyone a monthly subscription then. WOW and Final fantasy has been doing it forever they have been out forever. Those companies are worth billions.The way scopley approach’s making money for a game is on a whole different level… I’m sure majority of people would agreed to doing a monthly subscription apposed to having a “free game” and you dump money to make yourself stronger faster… there not suffering on the sheer amount of money they make every month from all of us. The point of view of them making money is really misconstrued.

[tiny panther]

a monthly fee would be a good method. Though Scopey has advertised this game as Free. They may have trouble attracting new players. The could go like WOW where your 1st 20 levels are free then subscribe.

[smoky thistle]

Please just give us back the old tourney and I'll buy a big ol' pack. Promisepromise

[candid wren]

bring back choice rewards that's the best way foe ftp playes to get the 6* mats

[oak hawk]

How do I archive my account?

[tiny panther]

Choice rewards helped players to pay too. It was a great part of the game.

[scarlet fjord]

“Old battlepass “ was 20 bucks so charge us 20 bucks a month… still charge for packs/ specialty ships… I can justify that due to not wanting to grind for a new ship… charge less like 50 bucks and I’m sure more will be up to spending money

[lilac oar]

Once upon a time there were events that made teams work together to compete and be engaged. Like latinum Rush, the rewards weren't that great and it was more about bragging rights than anything. But now your playing with the whales and have no chance of being competative. Today spelled the end of AT with the nonsense changes. And the MACO overtime event is insane. 37 Q trials.....the list goes on. Bugs galore and nothing but crickets and a growing list of lies from the gang at Scopely. I guess its time to go fishing more often.

[cyan isle]

You guys should run a feedback survey and ask 1 question. “Are you happier today than yesterday in stfc”. Wouldn’t even have to hire a survey company

[tawdry coral]

I might even be swayed. I usually did get something during tourney lol

[lofty musk]

Why would Scopely run a feedback survey when whales told them these changes suck and the response was “we don’t care”?

[weary elm]

Our smaller players are encouraged to participate and its awesome watching them raid while Bigs cant hit them....which is much harder now after the PvP lvl adjustments. Our lower lvls cant hit the bigger bases we were cracking.

[cyan isle]

Because scopley hasn’t learned shrimp feed the whales?…

[gaunt wolf]

just noticed the WD battlepass got nerfed big time. I wouldn't buy that thing now even if it was $5

[fickle stone]

Scopley the only company actually dislikes its customers.

I was not a big spender, a couple hundred a month. You have taken so much joy out of the game I think I should find a better place to spend my money. The absolute disrespect you all show us is unbelievable….

[remote sun]

A boycott or some other unified stand should be organized.

[rotund meteor]

I noticed the Recall Program got pulled. I wonder why...

[vale scroll]

Same, I bought the odd battlepass when I was having fun on the game, and it would still be fine if it was just the 1 battlepass, primes and a few booster packs as optional spends for players to get ahead.

Instead we now have multiple passes, and every single event purposely designed just to make money. And that's where any immersion or fun in the game vanished.

I hate to say it, but some of the better content i enjoyed during my many years on this game has now been archived. Most of this recent stuff is average at best.

[vestal pebble]

New here?

[lost zinc]

Anyone else waiting for Nintendo to sue? 👍😅

[grizzled topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-jedi-master-star-wars-another-happy-landing-landing-gif-17180367

[digital vault]

🥤 ⛓️‍💥 🐫 ◀️

[river zinc]

Hello

They want feedback

they cant accept feedback

[rotund meteor]

They want receipts of purchases as feedback. Not words

[burnt torrent]

My receipts will be on ho for the future they took one of the best things they designed in the game for alliances to have fun and grow f2p and p2p players and destroyed it with crazy mission paywalls even worse anyone that was using all there respins regularly for the alliance are low on respins without paying for them after the last couple weeks I’m thinking might be time to move on and from what I’ve heard from others many are thinking the same thing and they aren’t the f2p kinda people

[rose ruin]

Good morning,

You think AT is being revamped and you're looking forward to new challenges, and then Scopely pulls this off. It was completely predictable. I'm speechless. It was all for the community, just maximizing profits and making life even harder for people in-game. Let them pay. Scopely, you just never learn. The more of this crap you pull, the more players quit. After this disaster, several members of our alliance quit again. Understandable. Shame on you.

[river zinc]

So yall realize this stupid update to Alliance tourneys, I will not be buying the elite BP cause theres absolutly no point, great work on saving me money. You can check your monthly spends on what I used to buy, and compair it to now.. Happy marketing to whoever made this game worse for even regular payers.. Hire someone that knows how to market and not anger your regular players...

[wary comet]

I know of plenty of whales that are ready to quit over the latest rollout. Change it back. Punishing your f2p players are only going to hurt your pockets. Our discord communities are the reason that some of us still play but people are ready to quit quit now even so.

[river zinc]

After this roll out theres no such thing as free to play lol

[wary comet]

A lot of us are boycotting spending a dime just to spite this rollout. It’s garbage and gross.

[river zinc]

For the first time in about a year Im not going to buy the elite BP anymore as its useless

[tiny panther]

for the last several years, that clear desktop section of this monitor has been filled with STFC. that small section on the right for discord. I have closed the game. I have 9 days left on my 14 day shield. I have a lot of 7 day shields. This is how I feel about the game right now.

[wary comet]

If I wasn’t in leadership I wouldn’t even log into the game tbh. But I love the alliance I’m in and some others as well.

Thankfully some of my alliance mates and I play other games together so it wouldn’t be the end of the world if I left stfc, tho it would be a shame. But there are other games out there not made by nopely.

[rose ruin]

It's just a waste of time now. They've completely ruined this thing. I've just used up 30 shields. Back to World of Warcraft. At least I get my money's worth there. What's going on here is shameful. Not even all the money in the world could buy this.

[tiny panther]

I am with you on that. I am a commodore in my alliance, I love the people the only reason I am still around. Though how long can I beat my head against the wall? I need to take care of myself too.

[wary comet]

My current struggle and many others as well, I imagine. Thank goodness for discord. I just asked if anyone quits to still chat there cos at least discord is free 😂

[silk loom]

They need to see 100% drop.. That will get their attention as well as results.

[umbral gull]

You guys seriously couldn't keep the rerolls as a reward after completing a 10k or 20k task? I've never met such a greedy terrible developer in my entire life

[wary comet]

Honestly I think what’s equally aggregeous to the AT is changing the broken rods. it already was a slow grind to get those treasury rewards…

[umbral gull]

If anyone that plays this game is buying these rerolls I want you to punch yourself in the face with my virtual fist please

[river zinc]

a Newby that thought they could make them another buck?

[tiny panther]

a simple solution to that is for as many people as possible to pop a 7 day shield. and coast for those 7 days.

[umbral gull]

Seriously scopely just hire a PERSON THAT PLAYS THIS GAME to sit in on meetings and direct where the teams should work, happy gamers equals more money

[wary comet]

That would be logical, something they can’t comprehend. They need a Vulcan.

[river zinc]

I love the idea of a 7 day shield and ghost hahahaha

[umbral gull]

I'm available for 3 months to fix this game with your team, just send me a message, would take a week

[burnt torrent]

5 yrs and the one thing they did that kinda impressed me they have now destroyed … golf clap …. Sad sad day scopely

[wary comet]

They just keep band aiding the problem. First it was losing spenders due to bugs. And instead of fixing the bugs, they make the game more expensive WITH THE SAME BUGS. Delete the rollout and hire a decent coder. Problem solved (mostly)

[stray thunder]

Scopely introduced G5 scrapping AND Account this Arc!

[rose ruin]

We can talk all we want here. Scopely couldn't care less. It's a done deal. It's a waste of time.

[tiny panther]

We have been asking for 5* recycling, and they have given it to us with one 7 day exo, not knowing how to get more and with a 35/ 61/ 96 day scrap time. This is a slap in the face.

[steel ridge]

<@&509690795536941056>

1 whole ship xp for this huh.... that's pretty generous

[rose ruin]

@tidal notch You are Online .... THE COMMUNITY is very Angry !!!!

[weary elm]

This is how I feel about this game right now: https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1HzAcXhu8X/

[umbral gull]

The ship MADE FOR WAVE DEFENSE, is not able to beam the academy wave defense hostiles, holy crap I hate you developers

Did you guys wanna sell us a ship that can beam the acadamy hostiles? I'm willing to pay another 609 bucks cause I know that's all that really matters

I have a line of credit ready guys, just fix the game

[cunning pelican]

Did you all notice they also increased most of the 10k's by double and the cost is higher in some areas in the store also the quantity is lower.

[umbral gull]

I've never seen a player base more ready to give thousands of dollars of money to a game that is so broken. Please just invite me to meetings so I can tell you guys what to fix

[final kiln]

"You need to buy this breakfast sandwich for $99.99" - Scopely probably

[umbral gull]

People would spend money on emotes but they're only given to ops 30 and under, like why??????? Genuinely scratching my head now

[viral hill]

You lot need a reality check. This game has now reached the point of ridiculousness. Played since 2019, ops 66, and it’s possibly the worst six months of gaming since I joined.

[cunning pelican]

Buy my pack for 99.99 it's a shaking finger saying naughty naughty. ☝️

[umbral gull]

I've been playing for a year and I'm in for roughly 40k. Imagine someone willing to shell out that kidn of money and the game is so broken

Never forget this is f2p

I'm not even close to a super whale, feel bad for the guys who are in for over 200k

[atomic nest]

Frankly, I am angry and beyond frustrated with how things have been handled by Scopely as of late. The 2026 STFC roadmap video that was showcased at the beginning of the year had me hopeful and excited that Scopely was focused on player quality of life issues and new content.

Thus far, none of that has come to pass. What should have been a revival of STFC for players has turned into a morass of incompetence, disrespect and greed by Scopely towards its playerbase. I think I'm done or very close to being done with STFC; there is simply no redeeming qualities to this game/Scopely when I and thousands of others feel so betrayed and used.

[umbral gull]

I feel bad for hammy being the middle man still

[weary elm]

At least he doesnt respond to customers like his coworker simpauly. Too bad Scopely employees apparently dont play the game or care about their customers. Because if they did, maybe they might understand where we are coming from and help players like arsenic_touch, who is a fellow player and volunteer mod.

[viral hill]

I have a fleet of G5s ready to scrap, Sompek is 50d scrap. What a joke.

[neon atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[umbral gull]

This made me giggle thank you

Scopely please, i can make you millions of dollars, just invite me to a meeting. I can show you the way to pleasing gamers

[tardy sky]

You know what the next step will be now that they've successfully managed to push half the playerbase to the point of quitting? Prime Account Archiving

[umbral gull]

I have 3 months off guys, just lemme know when

[weary elm]

OMG, I was just thinking the same thing!

[sage wadi]

I have no trust in them, that prime sure would be bugged.

[umbral gull]

Also the chance for pulling officer experience from the academy wave pull is really a hey gamers we don't care about you

Like devs, imagine if every single pull was appealing to people..how hard is it to do this. I just got 250k officer exp from an academy wave pull. Like what

[sage wadi]

Spend it wisely

[umbral gull]

I will make sure to save that exp, thanks csus

[nocturne pond]

https://tenor.com/view/winning-move-play-wargame-wargames-gif-11986955664532117564

[vast field]

Maxed officers give xp right?

[umbral gull]

I could be driving a new car for 40k USD but instead I'm in a discord asking for developers to give us a fair shake, and getting ZERO response from anyone on scopely side

[wild hearth]

I was just introduced to Scopley's new anthem - "Someone Who Cares" by "I Am Roze", on YT (wonderfully explicit lyrics)

[steady bluff]

Don't forget Leslie's nerf, and any other nerf there could have been.
Also they removed solos entries for wave defense pass and the replacement (duo) it's just one entry.

Also not so long ago they removed the CoTA just to now run similar events in a row, but even harder and with less rewards.

And im still waiting for the galaxy rush, spend so much rss just to get half primes.

I hope I'm not missing anything, but if there is something good and free still around (not gonna give examples), we better be saying goodbye 👋 as they are probably next

[vast field]

Regardless, the player experience is worsening at dizzying speed. But we need to wake up their managers and shareholders and the people that sign off on future work. Not the devs, the devs are probably over worked, stressed and forced in a corner to conply

[umbral gull]

I strongly believe this discord is just to remove tickets from their system

[vast field]

That ticket system is just going to be a metric, support engineers who need to solve X tickets a month and a manager that looks at the total number and says, goodjob all

[wild hearth]

their ticket system is built to make you not create tickets for their system

[umbral gull]

Nobody pays attention to anything we say other than the people like hammy who make sure people don't get out of line, but it's not like him or the other mods can do much

[nocturne pond]

To be fair the CMs aren’t the decision makers or programmers. But since they interact with us they get all the torches and pitchforks.

[umbral gull]

I'm willing to give this company thousands of dollars but this game is broken

[nocturne pond]

Not paying any more until the game is fun again. Doubt that’s anytime soon.

[umbral gull]

If I've said anything out of line feel free to tell me but what the hell man

[vast field]

Well that does make you one of the people the decision makers listen too. Drop them a message on LinkedIn 😂

[tardy sky]

Maxed common/uncommons give xp, rare/epics give TPs

[umbral gull]

Imagine the next arc it's captain kirk and he's like hey everyone I'm here to fix the lag, and then when you complete the quest he fixes the lag

[vast field]

#goals

[nocturne pond]

No if they introduce a lag fix it will be a 12 level prime.

[umbral gull]

I'll buy it, 5977 players would buy it INSTANTLY

[vast field]

Right enough banter, i think we all got the point across to the CMs and they for sure handed the feedback to their management, who for sure threw it all in the trash bin.

Love you all (including the cms), stay safe and have a great day with or without STFC (or maybe despite of😂 😬)

[umbral gull]

Right in the trash bin

[weary elm]

but it would still break/not work (like the GS-31 beam, Kirshara artifact, dauntless, wave defense, etc)

[umbral gull]

Scopely please, I'm willing to tell you how to make MILLIONS of dollars, just msg me bro

[slender ledge]

Nobody from Scopely here

[umbral gull]

I've never been so vocal in this discord

I only want to help

[timber root]

Step 1: stop being so greedy
Step 2: lower packs' prices to improve price/value ratio and so players don't have to choose between electricity bill and a pack
Step 3: go back to step 1

[vast field]

I wasn't joking about LinkedIn 😂 DIGIT gaming ireland was the company on the start screen for a long time, they are part of scopely now.. but im sure you can find a few LinkedIn profiles

[umbral gull]

The fact that I'm in for 40k and i haven't been invited to the super whale discord really says a lot

[umbral gull]

Lemme know who I need to msg bruh

[vast field]

Ain't go no time for a serious search.. but its someone on this employee list😂
DIGIT, a Scopely Studio | LinkedIn https://share.google/tVpao4MxorhDrjTP9

[umbral gull]

I just traded 30k of stock I'm willing to give scopely if they fix the game, rev deuce is a really big positive influence so I'm hoping he gets behind this

@finite mural

[slender ledge]

Don't. You will get more satisfaction from burning them.

[umbral gull]

Did hammy quit or change his name? He usually chimes in by now to calm me down

[slender ledge]

Scopely is grid locked into their long series of bad decisions and how they have to limit player progression (because players cannot progress too fast, as they run out of content to play) and the money addiction they have as they need to show double digit growth to the owners.

Scopely know the problems they have.

They just don't know how to get out of it.

[umbral gull]

They have still failed to realize the content is other players

[slender ledge]

There is no pack for that. And you 30k, while it is a nice bundle of cash, is just a drop in the ocean for them. You have to add a ' behind that number to make it count.

[umbral gull]

I'm willing to give a total of 70k, I think that's a solid amount no?

Please never forget this is promoted as a f2p game

[slender ledge]

That's like a couple of days worth of tokens for their coding LLM, at most

[umbral gull]

They really haven't realized that the content is other players

[acoustic sequoia]

well good job scopely 3 g7 spenders archived their accounts today from my alliance with how junk this arc has been and the money grab that is the AT that came out today. If your idea was to get people to quit the game your doing a marvelous job

[umbral gull]

This might shock most of you but this discord is just a place to chat things and nothing ever happens

[acoustic sequoia]

yeah but it feels better to say it somewhere than your own head

[umbral gull]

Make a ticket and say it, it's what they don't want

[somber orchid]

Funny thing is that they are responding to reviews on iOS , that they are working on to improve things sadly that’s not reflecting in game

[acoustic sequoia]

thats nothing new. case in point the video from the main overlord saying they were gonna improve things and then just keep making it worse

[umbral gull]

Don't worry guys rev deuce is really positive about the changes, it's all not a big deal

[acoustic sequoia]

..........

[umbral gull]

Not one mod able to answer anything, pretty amazing

Okay you guys, you got it, I'll spend my life savings so you can consider how to make a new arc that is a copy paste of wave defense in the meantime

Visa needed me to confirm that xsolla was indeed a normal purchase. I told them don't worry, they are the greatest game devs of all time

[timber root]

You do realize mods & CMs are US-based and it's the middle of the night for them, right ?

[umbral gull]

Man imagine if they had mods that operated at all times, like if they had millions of dollars at their disposal to make that happen

[timber root]

I'd rather imagine that we had a functionning game without such an eggregious spending scheme ...

[umbral gull]

I'm good for at least 70k spending , imagine all the other tools like me that are way over

[timber root]

Honestly if you've got that kind of cash spending it on a game, any game, is a bad idea. Take 10K out of that stash, build the fattest gaming pc you can, keep what's left of it to buy games for the next 10 years. Invest the other 60k in your local economy. I heard the defense industry is booming (pun intended) these days 😄

[umbral gull]

I started spending into black desert online and eve online instead lately, I used to think they were greedy but Jesus Christ did this game teach me a lesson

They don't even care if you are hacking or botting in this game tbh, as long As you spend

[timber root]

I highly recommend Crimson Desert. It's seriously awesome, playing it right now

[umbral gull]

Been really enjoying crimson desert

All of these chats will be buried by random nonsense in 1 day from now and nothing will ever change, never forget. Don't worry everyone I'm here to spend 30 thousand dollars to ensure you can all click more triangles

@weak marten

[timber root]

Well, if I'm bored enough I might just end up writing my own triangle clicking simulator. Shouldn't be too hard with AI these days 😛

[umbral gull]

Your best video was telling everyone how to archive their accounts by far

[umbral gull]

I'll give you 300 bucks right now

Imagine making a ship in a game you developed that is just for wave defense. Then making future content not able to be beamed by that same ship that is a wave defense mechanic. How more brain dead can you get

My mind is blown, over the simplest of mechanics

This whole discord is a spot for people to chat whatever they feel and nobody cares and nothing ever comes from it, as long as you dont get super out of line, it's the abyss

[tardy sky]

This meltdown is nearly as good as that Japanese bloke in APAC veil chat the other day

[hearty breach]

isn't there an update soon

[solar solar]

Still no response from scopley, still no acknowledgement of their tremendous balls up. No official “we’re looking into it” no accountability or acceptance of the anger they have causes to their customers. Heads should roll for whoever designed this arc and changed the battle pass and AT

[tranquil grail]

just wait for the quarterly board meeting. Things will shake up... likely not for better but they will change

[solar solar]

CM’s chatting to Dev’s

[tranquil grail]

there's 0% chance revenue is not down over the last 2 months.

[acoustic sequoia]

its like they dont get it. they aren't creating new whales with pushing more stuff they are just making the ones that already are leave the game along with everybody else.

[tranquil grail]

The revenue decline over the last two months is on me.
The team made a strategic bet that we could update progression, refresh monetization, and introduce new cooperative systems while also continuing to patch long-standing technical debt. That bet was directionally defensible, but operationally overextended. We created a perception problem that became a revenue problem.

Players did not reject the idea of new Battle Pass structures, alliance content, or Starfleet Academy progression in isolation. They rejected the combination of higher monetization pressure, broken launch execution, reduced objective reward value, and unresolved daily friction. When a player has to dismiss repeated offers, fight lag, wait through emergency maintenance, lose Battle Pass progress, and then read that a key workaround officer is being capped, the conclusion is obvious: "They are asking for more while delivering less." That is the revenue story.

Not market softness. Not IP fatigue. Not seasonal variance. Trust compression.

The immediate plan should be recovery before expansion:

• Freeze additional monetization complexity for one arc.
• Overcompensate Battle Pass and Leslie-affected players visibly.
• Publish a concrete QoL burn-down list with dates, not themes.
• Restore at least one removed or diminished value mechanic players can immediately feel.
• Separate “new paid progression” from “bug-fix releases” so players stop associating every patch with a new bill.

Treat community anger as leading-indicator revenue data, not noise.

The good news is that the player base is not apathetic. The posts are angry because people still care. The bad news is that caring players are now openly coordinating the mental move from "I’m frustrated" to "I’m done spending" to "I’m leaving."

That is the line we crossed.

Want to send this to Conner <@&509690795536941056>

[umbral thistle]

They will read that and go 'o lets put one thing back and everything will be ok' the accumulation of bad decisions/and the consistent lack of fixes to anything meaningful cannot be forgotten

[weak grove]

where is this paragon officer exchange gone? i still have token i need to spend

[finite mural]

will be back next week

[timber root]

Very well put, but they need to restore all removed/diminished value mechanics (AT tasks & rerolls, choice tokens, battlepasses and a few others I don't remember from the top of my head), just one or two won't do at this very low trust point.

[tranquil grail]

I'd stand behind rerolls BUT then they need a linear value for all tasks - both tournament points AND credits

[gaunt tartan]

Improvements to their bottom line, though highly questionable as they will loose more spenders than gain on extra pack sales. I was very unhappy with whole Academy arc and really angry for tournament and related changes. No syndicate BP to increase Syndicate level and one task in AT, no choice exchange to complete tasks in AT. New rerol changes are BS, pretty much useless, it was pretty much one of 20 to 50 rerols for good task before, now its more like you are lucky get one in dozen ATs.

Game become tiresome grind, all greed and no fun. This is my 2nd strike for Scopely, I am halting all my purchases and seriously considering quitting or at least archiving account for minimum of half year to see if there will be positive change before leaving permanently.

[tranquil grail]

0% chance revenue is not down across the board the last 2 months

we have to continue to speak with our wallets. The game IS fun. The value for spending just got kneecapped

[gaunt tartan]

you consider several hours of mining, 8+ hours of grinding and tasks that requires you to kill several thousands of hostiles (per task) as fun? Maybe occasionally but not daily. Scopely promised improvements, but its getting opposite way, I didn't see any improvements in past few months, only more bugs, more lag, more grinding.

[tranquil grail]

If you're not enjoying the core gameplay mechanics this becomes a different discussion than the one I'm proposing. I enjoy the game. Kill 533 swarm hostiles today because I grabbed a bad task without thinking. It doesn't make me angry at the game or game runners, it's just a grind. I've ground harder for less.

I reject loudly the objective reduction in value to paid features. That is where I have to speak with my wallet.

[gaunt tartan]

problem is since last time Scopely did quality of life improvements, amount of grind increased multiple times. And BTW whats your OPS level?

[cosmic coral]

Same for me, 7 day shield went on yesterday then I'm pretty sure I'll quit the game, installed Star Trek Online last night and enjoyed playing that for a few hours, think that will be my new game for a while now. (I know it's old 😂).

[tranquil grail]

Grind is grind to me. I spent hours grinding text-based MOBs in MUDs. Galactic Empires, Everquest, WoW, ST:O, etc. My ops level doesn't impact my viewpoint of the object reduction in value to existing monetary structures. Once you increase the price of a stamp you can justify all sorts of snowballed price impacts. This is the problem.

also 51, in about 93 days since I started actually playing. I've been around the stfc cc space for years though.

[gaunt tartan]

yeah there are some people on our server considering another go on STO as well. Or try SWTOR again.

[gaunt tartan]

On ops69+ amount of grind increase significantly, pretty much all stuff take more time. OPS 50-60 was pretty easy in comparison.

[tranquil grail]

I helped key over 50 players for MC and Ony in wow classic. I know a grind. I dont mind a grind. If you can't enjoy the grind in a game it might not be the best game for you.

Still pulling away from the conversation I'm trying to have. Objective monetary value. Removing choice. Reducing player agency.

[gaunt tartan]

There is big difference, in WOW or any other MMO, you were not expected grind up your 2nd job just to complete daily tasks.

[tranquil grail]

eh, you lose me at being upset about a grind. I understand this is your perspective and appreicate it tho. It just strays from what I'm trying to land at and I worry it could be detrimental to the game. I'm willing to put in the effort to grind 533 hostiles just to complete a task I accepted. Grinds are part of the game.

[grave quest]

i’m with you. the game is grind. that is fine. it can get overwhelming but that is when we need to remember we do not have to do everything at once. the issue is greed, it’s them arbitrarily deciding to take away value, not fix problems causing crashes and unplayable conditions. it’s forced toxic and predatory monetization. it’s a string of calls that make players feel they are being abused. grind? yeah nah.

[unborn raven]

@finite mural @tidal notch @raw fiber V'ger tasks are retrieving

[gaunt tartan]

533 hostiles is easy, Take look at latest Scopely take on Academy hostiles, if you are 70 you are able kill 61 and limited amount of 62 hostiles, unless you are 70 for like 6-12 months and already maxed epic or got vengeance to like 200b. I would need to kill 9500 L61 academy hostiles for single refine. And believe me I know grind, I have nearly thousands hours on SWTOR in steam, way more before it was migrated to steam, I spent thousands of hours in EQ2, WOW, SW galaxies and many more MMOs. Scopely just taking it to another level.

[tranquil grail]

and, please don't take me as dismissive. If the game had provided you with a level of expectation for time investment vs reward that's equivalent to monetary cost. So if it now takes 4 hours to complete a task it previously took 2 to complete Im all in on the same reduction in objective value convo there

but then the task/reward would have to be equal. As os objectively proven with the battle pass value

[boreal flame]

Did they fix anything or is the game still a greedparty?

[gaunt tartan]

I dont take you as dismissive, just explaining my side of issues with scopely as relatively recent PS 70 player. If looking at time scopely added Exborg, you could complete all dailies and most of events within 2 hours, now its more like quadrupled not even counting mirror, transogen mining in.

[tranquil grail]

Aye there's a ton of loops now. I'm always out of something for a pull 😄 I'm not qualified to speak much on it but, I will say, I enjoy all the new loops I have as I've progressed ops but if I don't do a pull for a day or three that's ok. I'll get to it when I have time. I think it's fair to have to sometimes decide "do i wanna run a dungeon w the boys or do I want to finish my dailies?" type thing

but, if the same daily suddenly gave 20% less value in return.. well i'm gonna suddenly be, at least, 40% 😡

[gaunt tartan]

well its combination, effort for tasks increases while value per effort drops, plus you need more of stuff as you level up.

[tranquil grail]

some of that is natural. Level 60-61 is always easier than 69-70 and usually exponentially so. Dnd set the standard there i think. though it should be more of a wave in game design

[gaunt tartan]

This is prime example of ridiculous, minimum refine take like moth of high effort, limited by tokens, maximum refine is maybe for people with maxed Vengeance and even then would take an effort.

[lethal bridge]

<@&509690795536941056> some updates from Scopely would be nice. Till yet we get only silence as every time.

[stuck swift]

In the AT, they took away the credits you'd get for completing a 5k task killing swarms/roms/whichever, and now the same time consuming task doesn't give any credits. That BS.

[light sierra]

<@&509690795536941056> will you at least acknowledge there is an alliance chat issue? For starters?

[tranquil grail]

533 hostiles it took me to get no credits. 😄 lesson learned tho

[tranquil grail]

curiosity cause idr if it happend before i installed it or not but do you use the community mod? It has been happening frequently to me lately tho

[finite mural]

those never gave credits

[stuck swift]

I have no idea what you're talking about, but it happened a couple tournaments ago.

[tranquil grail]

wrong reply sorry haha

[stuck swift]

Yeah they did because I wouldn't have spent hours trying to kill myself getting all the points needed for nothing.

[finite mural]

no they didn't, you're mistaken

[tranquil grail]

I meant to ask you haha

[haughty sail]

AT tasks without any credits are an insult to the players, old ones or new ones doesn't matter. They should NEVER be there, every task should have some tiny bit of personal progress too.

[stuck swift]

I remember looking through the tasks one day to see where the breaking point was as to what task you had to take in order to get credits. The breaking point was 5k. Any tasks below that amount didn't give you credits anything above that amount did.

[tranquil grail]

tbf i think chat said Arsenic is right, indirectly. today in DJz stream it came up. I just had never bothered to actually look before

[gaunt tartan]

you are getting two different credits, second ones from tasks 20k and above.

[finite mural]

these are the 5k kill tasks, they never gave tournament credits, just points

[stuck swift]

I have never done a 20K task in the year I've been playing, and in fact never had even seen a 20K task until this tournament right now.

[gaunt tartan]

yes its new and pretty much unrealistic without heavy $$$

[stuck swift]

Yes. I've seen what you need to get it. Ludicrous AND insulting!

[stuck swift]

They don't now!

[finite mural]

they never did

[timber root]

and that's why they always sucked and noone ever did them 🤷

[gaunt tartan]

And BTW guys, grandma died on weekend, wife's father got reported metastasis all over body 2 days later so my tolerance to Scopely BS is pretty low at moment with my angry level through the roof.

[sonic burrow]

Sorry to hear that, try and stay strong 💪

[tranquil grail]

dms are open if you need em. Just friend add me cause i have this server restricted cause of teh bots

nn!

[drowsy topaz]

Care to share that list with the rest of the class?

[timber root]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pr90y3NFBCX3jbT_vY3Jk7X9us5oX8RV9tR3Jk8v4nM/edit?gid=1703742634#gid=1703742634

[drowsy topaz]

Thank you - much appreciated

[opal orchid]

Would love to see in known issues - Scopely ruining the game.

[scenic osprey]

Does anyone else have the problem where the Alliance chat keeps freezing, and you can't read or type anything? I've been having this happen on and off for the past three days—I have to keep reloading the game, which is really, really annoying.

[vivid nebula]

Yep they won’t acknowledge it’s an issue

[scenic osprey]

no is no problem . if someone want help or do new Waves he can give me smoke signal ^^ OMG

[marsh tide]

Really hard to tell there is so little activity in Our AC wouldn’t notice

[undone igloo]

<@&509690795536941056> what happened to the compensation for the mess last week?

[silk prairie]

They do what usually do. Not the CMs themselves, but those above. They gather more fkups so all can be compensated with 1 chest. Containing 350 parsteel, 1 ahvix bp, 299 lat.

[marsh tide]

They waited for the response to the new AT so they could try to convince us whatever they may give us is for BP problems is for AT problems at least they are trying to be efficient somewhere

[tranquil pelican]

I concur, my mum had a stroke last week, drilled a hole in her head to relieve cranium preasure, ...,she took her 1st walk today...stfc cannot bring me down today🖖😇

[fluid mist]

oh I sent a ss of that over to a Nintendo thread my cousin is on don't worry rofl

[timber root]

It's been an ongoing issue for years, one of the many they can't be arsed to fix ... Seeing them you'd think designing a working chat system is extremely hard. It isn't.

[tranquil pelican]

Slow mode still enabled ... says a lot ... problem is, only $copel3y employees reading this is volenteer mods ... viterol is wasted on these stalwarts herding cats, th3y aint to blame....if you really stinging, send your thougbts to paramount & explain the damage to the franchise...oh yeah...thats right🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[marsh tide]

Damage to paramount wasn’t done by this game but all the content in this game is from what caused that damage

[fluid mist]

hammy has sent a total of 5 messages in this channel since the 21st of April pretty sure he been told to say nothing and interact with no one since this bonfire started back at that date. Even when discord says he's online he doesn't say anything we get nothing back from people who is supposed to be the bridge to scopley even simpauly only started to message us yesterday since the 21st it's a joke for communication.

[twin tendon]

watch out or they mute you for not praise and celebrate academy arc changes to game

[fluid mist]

that'd mean they'd actually be doing something right now which we all know they ain't since they've been awol since the 21st. a handful of messages between 2 cm's to anyone in this discord in the past 15 days that equal out to let's be generous and exaggerate that they sent 20 which yes isn't true they sent way less. In 15 days that many messages by people who is supposed to be our communication between scopley and us when they have been seen online soo many times is unbelievably low and tells you everything about what is happening right now.

[analog plank]

Not only is the change to AT ruining 1 good spot for the game the lack of opportunities to score is painful.
I understand you feeling you need to change the 10k tasks - but then fix the others which could spur engagement (xindi for ops 62+?, 5k and 8k tasks which give no store loot?)
It’s OK to run a monkey event which gives good will and good engagement with good prizes. If that’s the loss which spurs other spending it’s actually a net win… this month is just unfortunate

[rare radish]

Alliance tournament feedback - ops 60 mainly f2p - without choice rewards the material tasks are very hard to complete - syndicate pass used to help the syndicate task But the biggest issue is rerolls - on old tournament I could reroll. 20+ times and not get a decent 10k task but at least some players in the alliance could help - now the limited rerolls and more ptp tasks have made this ridiculous - and yes you can do a low task for points and no store credits but that grind will be a big one as the hostiles stop at l60 in a lot of them - why have there not been changes to make these go to ops eg80 to still allow these tasks to be done by higher f2p players - the shame of this is there’s so nice primes/ Ft / etc in the store eg godsend I’m 4 shards off that so would be nice to get it - this has made at least 3 of our higher players put a shield on and pondering if this is the time to leave the game - please scopley- look at some of the feedback and offer some thoughts

[spark rain]

050526

Dear STFC Support Team,

I am writing today not because of a single bug or one isolated issue, but because of the overall state of the game and the growing frustration within the community.

The frustration among many long-term players has now reached a point where people openly discuss quitting the game. And this no longer affects only individual players, but entire alliances and leadership teams.

The current Alliance Tournament is only one visible symptom of a much larger problem.

Many players increasingly feel that:

• events are becoming overly complicated,
• progression systems are difficult to understand,
• long-term planning is no longer possible,
• and more and more content is designed primarily around spending money.

Many players no longer even know:

• which events are truly important,
• which currencies actually matter,
• or what they should prioritize.

At the same time, the game constantly changes established systems:

• removal of Choice Tokens
• changes to Depot Tokens
• changes to Officer Depot Tokens
• redesign of the Alliance Tournament
• nerfs to officers and mechanics (such as Leslie)
• changed milestone requirements
• altered point systems
• removal or replacement of events without sufficient transparency

As a result, many players feel that long-term planning and preparation are being punished.

One of the most commonly discussed issues is now the so-called “Leveling Paradox”:
Players are encouraged or pressured to level up,
but once they do, new content often becomes nearly unplayable unless large amounts of money are spent.

The monetization pressure is increasingly being perceived as excessive:

• more and more heroic events,
• constantly increasing milestone requirements,
• paid progression systems,
• and rewards that often no longer provide meaningful value.

As a Level 72 player, for example:
Why am I still receiving large amounts of 3★ and 4★ materials from chests?
These materials are completely useless to me.

The same applies to Transport Patterns:
I currently own nearly 29 million Transport Patterns,
and the number increases every day,
because I mostly receive tokens for officers I already fully own.

This creates the feeling that rewards are visually inflated,
but provide very little actual value for veteran players.

In addition, there are the ongoing technical problems:

• lag during event resets,
• delayed score tracking,
• slow menus,
• refinery issues,
• unstable Incursions,
• Wave Defense problems,
• performance issues during Surges,
• and long-standing bugs that remain unresolved for months.

At the same time, new features regularly introduce additional bugs.

Another major issue is communication.

Many players would likely accept difficult changes
if the long-term vision behind them were explained clearly.
Right now, many updates feel random and disconnected.

Support is also increasingly viewed critically:
Players regularly report tickets being closed without resolution,
and many problems are only addressed after intervention from Content Creators or significant public pressure.

The result is clear:

• Motivation is dropping dramatically.
• Veteran players openly discuss quitting.
• Alliances increasingly struggle to maintain participation and morale.

And this is the most important point:
Players are not asking for an easier game.
They are asking for:

• stability,
• transparency,
• meaningful rewards,
• predictability,
• and a game that feels enjoyable again instead of constantly exhausting.

Many of us have invested years into this game and into our communities.
That is exactly why the current direction feels so disappointing.

I sincerely hope this feedback is not only read,
but seriously forwarded to the teams responsible for the future direction of the game.

Best regards,
EnNak
KHAN Alliance

[little solar]

Geez, incredible poor month which culminated that the alliance I am in has lost 7 players since yesterday when these new AT started and all those said the same: “enough of this”
Loosing 7 players level 66 - 72 in the timeframe of 18 hours is extremely painful… Good job on also ruining alliances

[tranquil pelican]

We want Connor! Explain this cluster duck & put your cards on the table! Why? & how does this fix what???, ... excatly???

[devout dragon]

I’m voting with my credit card and no longer buying packs or passes and if they keep this level of blatant greed and ignorance to their customers I’ll vote by stopping playing and another pay to play G7 player disappears. I understand they want to make money but this recent change is absolutely pure greed and shows no connection to people playing their game. Pity as I love the community and the game but this has to end even if it’s just another person turning off. LLAP 🖖🏼

[tranquil pelican]

Perhaps you misunderstood, ... the "why ,what & how"... was the key to the question, ...🙏😇

[silk prairie]

Cant wait for another video of his guilty and sad face. Promising stuff that wont happen

[tranquil pelican]

Or to put it another way " Luuuucy! You gots some 'splaining to doooo!!! ( in Ricky Ricrdo's voice) google it👀🖖😇😂🤣😂

[keen loom]

Shocking. So much negative feedback and silence from Scopley.

Love seeing another example of how customers are ignored - but a perceived exploit was addressed within minutes.

[grave quest]

your mistake is to think WE are the customers. we aren’t. the investors of the company are and we are the cogs of the atm.

[storm oracle]

Scopeley right now
https://tenor.com/view/haha-gif-6815166390687140758

[keen loom]

Ain’t no ATM action happening here. Nor will there be ever without some balance brought to the game.

[tranquil pelican]

Oh ... so this is how you fix inflation... stop spending? Such an ecconomist👀🤣😂🤣

[grave quest]

<@&509690795536941056> you know what would be great right now? ANY sign of life from scopely as well as ANY acknowledgement of the community rage. They cannot be permitted to just keep their head in the sand!

[hybrid urchin]

sure would be nice if i could just hit a delete button on all of these that i have zero use for

[slim panther]

So it’s you that’s causing the lag with your stockpiling. Just spend them and release us from the slowness 😂

[nocturne pond]

@spark rain - Good post and well written summary of the trends upsetting us all.

I would add one to your list of changes to established systems.

Devaluation of the main Battle Pass. Not only did they remove the Choice system which limits our flexibility… but the net rewards in materials is down significantly.

As an ops 71, with a primary need for G6 rare mats for my epic G6 ships and vengeance, I chose G6 rare as my primary metric.

For a fair comparison, I calculated the old Choice Value based on the Free + Elite track while choosing a split of materials that matches the ratio the current BP rewards. For the new BP, my value includes Free, Elite and Mythic plus I included the new daily login rewards (also free).

Bottom line. Under the new system, if I continue to spend for the Elite BP (20 bucks), I am getting 8.9k G6 rare versus the 12.4K I got in the old BP. That’s 28.2% LESS rare G6 materials.

If I decided to pay $50 (2.5x more) for the Mythic pass, I get 10.4k rare G6. That’s still 15.8% LESS than the old BPs 12.4k.

That’s just my personal impact as a spender who needs rare. But the F2P totals are down even more. Further, the F2P now get 270 less treasury rods a month slowing their progress more.

So all players are getting properly hosed here.

My hope is Scopely returns the free and elite paths to the old rates AND restores choice tokens. Further, the Mythic path should give even more on top of the Elite track that, and at 2.5x the price it should give at least 2.5 the value of that old Elite pass.

Until scopely makes that change I see two choices. Don’t spend. Or, don’t play.

https://tenor.com/view/winning-move-play-wargame-wargames-gif-11986955664532117564

[inner garden]

hmm. I just Awoke. Is waking up bannable? heard some stuff last bit. Xopely gone all greedy?

[wild hearth]

Play and don't spend - give them nothing but continue to put load on the servers

[sour shale]

Why spend them when you jsut get more.... just like useless parts for ships you maxed 3 years ago. Stop with the Frequency Modulators!!!!!!!!

[inner garden]

Wow. some much to read though

[fading robin]

Maybe we should all go to our respective app stores and put our feelings down in reviews. That way others will be warned and Scopely might actually decide their player base is worth listening to.

Just a thought because they aren’t listening to us here.

[inner garden]

Player Base worth listening to It is at least a concept

a concept of a plan

[hoary saffron]

All this negative feedback I can contribute a positive... I am so glad Scopely does not make my PC games I am playing. Really thankfull for that.

[nocturne pond]

The two things that makes this fun are advancing and playing with my team. These changes make advancing slower, and my team is all as ticked off as I am.

The actual game content is boring and redundant.

So the options are play F2P or simply don’t play.

[inner garden]

If ye don;t ply then aht be here>

[hybrid urchin]

i have been saying we need the ability to clean our inventory of all this dead content and it would help on lag but they seem to think it would not help as it would be very small of a change but they seem to forget that if it was 1 person ... sure it would not do much but if thousands could do a cleanup ... it would be a big différance

[inner garden]

Bye

[weak grove]

https://www.savvygames.com/contact

you wanna complain about scopely? go to their bosses :D

[inner garden]

is there 86 by 47 reasons why>

math

When I say Trumo must Dye, he has no grey hair

Take that to yer cleaner

or hair stylist

[vital sequoia]

Quite well said. Overlords, please take note and take better actions.

[inner garden]

I am not for here. Peace : )

Landru is of the body

Landru knows all

[mint wind]

Well done Scopley your incredibly poor content and blatant money grabbing has finished my time with this game.
A player since 7-12-18. 👋

[inner garden]

Landru knows yer woes

[weak grove]

yeah we experienced the last months how exceptionally well that worked and how much their boss we are. rather write to their real bosses and apply pressure from above

[inner garden]

All melpd with scopily Landur to know the path of Origen

All hallowed are the Ori
Thos the follow the path ate to be enlightened.

little mispellings

[sinful socket]

Hallowed are the Ori, overweight are their enlightened followers.

[inner garden]

heh. someone knows SG-!

[sinful socket]

I loved season 10.

[inner garden]

: )

SG-1 usually gets bruch past by most

[faint sage]

Does it now?

I think you'll find Babylon 5 is FAR more overlooked than the Stargate Franchise.

[inner garden]

I've watched everyone. even into Atlantis and Unierse. Still annoyied Universe was a cliff hanger

[faint sage]

SGU was not well handled. People expected more of SG1 and Atlantis, but got Stargate: The Soap Opera.

[mint wind]

I’m working my way through it now, it’s pretty bad…

[faint sage]

Bad? You heretic!

[mossy acorn]

From what I can see, in one of the top alliances in my Master's League bracket-

• the severe reduction in board refreshes + the dilution of 10k tasks (with the introduction of new tasks) has not prevented some from completing three of the 10k tasks free-to-play. The people who can complete the 10k tasks are (1) supremely patient and (2) have all the time in the world to stare at a blue board all day long until their task shows up.

• players who do not have all the time in the world simply disengage.

So-

We've replaced a beloved game mechanic with an updated version that provokes people to either stop engaging out of spite or stare at a blue board all day out of spite.

and is that what Fleet Command considers fun game design?

[bold marlin]

And couldn’t give a flying proverbial.

Well, at least Scopely have saved me the effort of deciding what parts of the game to avoid to safe my sanity and give me some of my life back.

AT is dead to me now. I won’t bother saving up the resources I needed for the FTP tasks. I’ll just continue to chip away at the FTP edges.

I’ve been able to go to level 51 for about 6 months now and I’ve not had the need, desire nor reason to do so. I’m just happy collecting the refineries, steadily maxing out my Epic ships and happily not rewarding Scopely’s ineptitude with my cash.

[quaint sun]

fix your product. then sell it. if it does not work you can't sell it. ... fix your product. stop the push for "bringing back friends" you kicked out.

[crimson elk]

It affected their bottom line. I mean why else would they address it.

[nocturne pond]

https://tenor.com/view/winning-move-play-wargame-wargames-gif-11986955664532117564

[bold marlin]

Yeah, why would we invite our fiends back to this car-crash? If anything we’re doing them a favour by not inviting them. Real friends look out for each other.

[rose ruin]

It's time for the STFC Com to take to the barricades.

[storm oracle]

They don't care at all

[ancient cave]

Why does the Outposts take over 2 hours to finish one takeover? 5 min between each run is ridiculous. Is there some research that lessens this time other than the speedups? Seems like too long spent for not much reward.

[wise wadi]

Be stupid , don't even listen to what we say. They have literally ruined this game in the last 6 months.Stupid fools. I think their plan is to make everybody quit, so they don't have to pay or get sued.There's no way they could be this stupid

The tournament is junk now

Scopley is junk. Take away , chat , see how fast this game ends.

[sudden anchor]

I'm still annoyed at this changes, i'm forced to use my emergency field rations that i keep for G6💩 💩

[atomic nest]

No, we have EA and Ubisoft for that.

[sudden anchor]

6 months are too long, the worse changes are within this 2 months

[final python]

every positive QoL change/good event over the past 18 months, has been reversed in the past 2 months. it's sad.

[karmic meadow]

Discord is a really amazing thing... it can show you all sorts of stuff like how many msgs have put in this channel since I last looked... $Dang scopley almost 1k msgs in the last 21 hours...Maybe its time to admit you messed up with all your recent changes...

[unreal geyser]

I like how you can generally tell how the community feels about an update based on the length of slow mode. The fact that it's set for one minute currently means that we are all THOROUGHLY ticked.

[scarlet fjord]

I understand that the alliance tournament was essentially supposed to be like this where the spenders benefit more and reward them for it. But damn how do you go from a system that everyone seems to like when the AT comes around where you get some good rewards for saving and playing smart for the past what? 1-2 years? Do a full circle and cut the legs out from everyone.
I really hope most big spenders don’t go nuts on and max out there AT score to help show this is a bad move

[azure spruce]

I really, REALLY hope we see that, but I am, sadly, not confident.

[azure spruce]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you need to double check your math.

72 hostiles × 5 minute spawn timer = 360 minutes, a.k.a. six hours, not two.

But worry not! They added Outpost Speedups to the Section 31 store! They... reduce the time... needed to fire the initial assault... on the outpost. They do nothing about the 5-minute spawn timer. Thanks, Scopely.

Someone should be fired (out of a cannon) for the design of Outposts.

(The cannon should be aimed at whoever came up with the outpost "speedups".)

[keen escarp]

Thanks a lot <@&509690795536941056>! My ops 71 account was deleted in less than 7 days. At least, you guys are finally capable of doing something. Too bad it is not the same for fixing bugs and delivering player focused good content.

[sick flame]

Another thing is those of us who scored 30k on the first day did so because we had enough old rerolls to convert to sigma rerolls needed for finding doable 10k tasks. Once we run out of the old rerolls, we’ll be in the same boat with those who simply disengaged. Looking at the tasks list wont help if nobody is rerolling them, we’ll just be staring at the same undoable tasks

[somber orchid]

Basically doing enough to keep my alliance in our league

[bleak fjord]

Definitely ready to hang it up. Who ever has been making decisions for the games direction needs counseling or just listening to the players might help. The last few months have been terrible, nothing like it has been or how it was designed. May be the game has run its course and they are grasping at straws? The updates are the worst, each comes with at least one downtime to fix errors that should never happen. Regardless I’m not interested in the current format at all so will be taking a break. Ultimately I don’t see anything as far as game play/course getting better so guessing I’m just done with the game.

[tardy patrol]

I have never come here to complain before, but you all killed Alliance Tournaments with the recent update. It used to be my favorite event, even after you made it harder the first time. But now I have yet to find a task I can do and have far less refreshes to use. 😭 And scrolling up, I see my comment will totally get lost in the sea of complaints!

[austere reef]

Guessing that these guys learn the wrong lessons from things players ACTUALLY applaud, I won’t be surprised when they consider this sincerely rather than as sarcasm.

[hoary sierra]

I have been playing for around two years. Currently ops 68 and for what it’s worth, in the top 3 percent for the ops level based on power. Not the best metric but it’s what’s available.

This arc has defeated me in a way no arc has since I started. There is something terribly wrong with how you design hostiles. It’s not just this arc, but people continue to struggle with the Orion hostiles from V’ger, at specific levels, and it’s the same level range for both. Certain levels struggled with the hostiles in flashpoints last year.

If you can’t kill hostiles near your ops level, the grind is effectively impossible. Without the loot from the hostiles you can’t get the materials to do the pull to upgrade the building. It’s literally impossible to event interact with the loop suddenly. My building is still level 1 and while you gave out the mats to get a handful of levels, it’s not enough to actually assist. Most players in certain level ranges are basically unable to even start working on the new content.

It’s like you’re expecting player power gains to fit some smooth line, but that’s not how research, and ships work in the game. A 69 is a long way off of what is available at 70, it might be one level but they are barely comparable in what they can accomplish.

This is all made worse by how little resources a G6 gets compared to how much is needed to tier up faction ships and upgrade buildings. The G6 rares are decent ships, but maxing one makes no sense in the overall game, rushing to 70 and building an epic is just more economical and helps more with the issues above. You have screwed up the entire progression and removing choice tokens, lowering resources from the battlepass, reducing resources from field rations, and likely more. Is making G6 a terrible experience that you are incentivized to rush through to get to 70.

[azure spruce]

Yeah, I'm concerned about that post. They will definitely take inspiration from it and nothing else.

[wise quest]

Remember when Rev suggested a multi armada start and they made it into a multi-level prime? They manage to take the best ideas and make them awful