#Bruh

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fresh summit
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My thoughts on that:

  • I'd strongly recommend against getting a boot HDD for various obvious reasons that I shouldn't have to say.. Just get a decent 1tb NVME SSD, they're cheap enough nowadays anyways.
  • You might want to consider buying your CPU and motherboard used, maybe even the RAM. This is because the CPU is now 3 (almost 4) generations old at this point, so there's likely some pretty good deals in the used market for that, or similar specced CPUs.
  • Don't cheap out on your power supply. If that thing eats crud, it's gonna want to take down the rest of your system along with it. You can refer to the PSU tier list here if you're really stuck on what to choose; https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
  • That motherboard is probably good enough if you don't want any further expansion or storage - Though this does limit your RAM upgradeability. You might want to consider going for a motherboard with 4 DIMM slots, so you can get 2x16gb sticks 'today', then maybe get another 2x16gb sticks in the future, when container jobs inevitably start commonly gobbling up 24gb, even 32gb of RAM.
  • You should reconsider your case choice.. That case looks like it has really bad airflow, from looking at the front panel.

Less important notes:

  • You don't need super expensive fans, a couple of Arctic P12's (CO) should do the job good enough for a fraction of the price.
  • CPU cores / general CPU speed may actually matter in the future, though I guess the 10100F isn't a bad CPU.
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Also you should probably take a good couple of days to consider if it's actually worth building a PC just to run Salad on.
You should take a rough average earning rate for a 3090 with GPU container workloads, take out your electricity costs (whole system, including PSU inefficiencies) (unless if you actually get free electricity).
Divide the cost of the system by the daily profits (revenue minus expenses) that you'd be generating, and that's how many days of running (assuming no random drops in earnings, or bugs, or crashes) it'd take to ROI.

umbral kayak
umbral kayak
fresh summit
# umbral kayak 1. useless the PC will be used to only use salad. 2. No, I like boxes 3. The Psu...
  • The additional speed, reliability, responsiveness, etc. will also help out in loading container jobs faster. I also wouldn't be surprised if Salad were to casually stop people with HDDs as boot drives from receiving container workloads due to these facts.
  • I really hope you're not trolling.. Find a case with better airflow or your 3090 will overheat, and I hope I don't have to explain why that is a bad thing.
  • I wouldn't call a 650w Bronze PSU good nowadays. I know the wattage and efficiency rating doesn't solely determine if a PSU is good quality or not, but I would only go for at least a 750w 80+ Gold PSU. That level of quality should at least mean that it's a decent unit that won't explode.
  • 'What recommendation' for what? I gave quite a few pieces of advice 😅
umbral kayak
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Ok

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So

umbral kayak
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Additional notes:
If you recomend a thousand watt unit, I want to put more GPUs but,
I need a bigger and older (for getting cheaper) eatx consumer motherboard (or maybe a 2011 V3 motherboard...) and I need blower GPUs because of limited airflow for the extra gpus

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Or maybe going to water-cooled (best space, better theramls)

fresh summit
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I do have some personal biases, so these might not be the absolute best price to performance recommendations;

  • I personally like Crucial's lineup of NVME SSD's - Their P3+ and P5+ have fast speeds, but are also pretty affordable (in my region at least). Though it is a bit slower than the MSI Spatium.

  • I haven't kept up with cases lately, but there's many up-to-date articles out there that compare the 'best budget cases' (search this phrase). If it has a mesh, or otherwise perforated front panel, it's usually got good airflow.

  • My personal biases come in again for the PSU - I've only ever used Corsair's PSUs because they've never let me down, across the various PCs I've had / built with them inside. Corsair's RMx / HX lineups use higher quality parts, thus they're higher quality - You'd want to go for at least 850w if you're wanting to run a 4090, maybe even 1kw+. Of course you can also check out the PSU tier list I linked before.

  • I wouldn't recommend running multiple GPUs, nor getting a decade+ old motherboard just to run them. Salad doesn't currently support multiple GPUs for container workloads, and I honestly don't expect them to support it until at least 2025.
    There's just not enough people with multi-GPU setups for Salad to bother putting in all the development work to support those rare edge cases. You're much better going for one really powerful GPU, than multiple weaker GPUs.

umbral kayak
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  1. Ok, the cheapest motherboard with 4 ram slots (headroom for a 5090)
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Maybe this Psu should be fine?

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fresh summit
umbral kayak
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Or mini ITX build

fresh summit
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I'd recommend against that, since all ITX motherboards only have 2 RAM slots

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Maybe Micro ATX if you get a good airflow case, and if you don't have much physical space for the PC to be in

fresh summit
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I just had to make sure it wasn't gigabyte's model that had that explodey issue lol

umbral kayak
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Lol

idle marten
umbral kayak
umbral kayak
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@fresh summit this should be good?

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I changed to AMD becuse the CPU was cheaper and better, and I HATE Intel stock cooler mounting hardware

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And on Intel, I was forced to get a motherboard with RGB, I don't want

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I get more ram becuse DDR4 was getting more and more obsolete and maybe DDR4 will be overpriced as ddr3

fresh summit
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It looks like that GPU will have 1mm of clearance in that case, so you should probably either look for another GPU that's a bit shorter (probably not really possible), or for another case that's a lil bit bigger

umbral kayak
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Ok

fresh summit
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I'd probably recommend at least the 850w variant of that PSU, since 750w doesn't really give you much headroom to upgrade in the future. It's more cost and time efficient to get a good PSU now, rather than two 'good enough' PSUs

umbral kayak
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Well, that 4090 suck

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@fresh summit

fresh summit
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That GPU is a bit shorter, but there's still just 7mm of clearance between the right end of the GPU, and the front of the case

umbral kayak
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Still bad?

fresh summit
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Probably, yeah

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If you can't find a GPU that's suitable, you could just look for another similar case that's a bit bigger (wider)

umbral kayak
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There is the new case

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I want to chose the diy-pc case, but was cyan

digital crystal
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For the cpu I will take a amd, r7 5700x or 5800x

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For the case I will take a mining rig, if u want plug more card

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Maybe start on a base of a mining rig, but with a good storage, ram and cpu

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For the gpu, I don’t think a rtx 3x is good because the rent gpu market need recent card like rtx 4x (for salad), or quadro card (expensive but pay more like 30$ par h)

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A HDD for storage is really a bad idea, docker need really a fast storage

fresh summit
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*Salad doesn't currently support Quadro GPUs for GPU container workloads

fresh summit
fresh summit
umbral kayak
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A 3090ti generate the same of a 4090?

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The 3090ti is way cheaper

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@fresh summit

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Will overclock and better AIB card help getting more profits?

umbral kayak
fresh summit
umbral kayak
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ok

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4090

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no problems with my pc case?

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@fresh summit

idle marten
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64 gb ddr4 can get you better containers

umbral kayak
umbral kayak
umbral kayak
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@fresh summit is a better choice using be quiet dark power 13 750w?

zinc cypress
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that cpu and gpu combo will be very bottlenecked

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not a good idea

umbral kayak
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Bruh

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Wtf

umbral kayak
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Read the description

zinc cypress
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its like getting a 10 year old cpu and the newest gpu

umbral kayak
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Bruh

zinc cypress
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if containers are all then maybe get a 3060/70/80

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those generate a lot of money

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and for much less

umbral kayak
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Wtf

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@zinc cypress I don't need a CPU, becuse salad only requires a quad core

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A good quad core

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This maybe is a hexa core

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Containers only use GPU power

zinc cypress
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if its only for gpu containers the only real requirement is to run windows 10/11

umbral kayak
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Its for containers

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I need 64/128gb ram

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A good quad core

idle marten
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also noctua fans are silent

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without rgb

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they dont have collab with 4090 tho only noctua 4080

umbral kayak
fresh summit
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Noctua isn't the only company capable of building decent cooling products -.-

umbral kayak
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Please

fresh summit
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Some Arctic P12's and a well optimised fan curve will be more than good enough

umbral kayak
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@fresh summit do you recommend 64/128gb ram?

fresh summit
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64gb should be plenty

zinc cypress
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128gb is mad overkill

fresh summit
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so it's not 'like getting a 10 year old cpu and the newest gpu' then

zinc cypress
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?

umbral kayak
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The case that I shoose is good?

zinc cypress
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temps wont really affect profit

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unless you buy like a box with no mesh

umbral kayak
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I will avoid intel

zinc cypress
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you just need some airflow

fresh summit
zinc cypress
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yeah you just need some airflow?

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then it wont

umbral kayak
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For the gpu

zinc cypress
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my point is that you dont need noctuas or bequiet or phanteks fans with your mining build

umbral kayak
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I should put a Intel t CPU?

umbral kayak
zinc cypress
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contianers mb

zinc cypress
fresh summit
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You've just gotta think, the more things you buy, the longer it'll take before you ROI

zinc cypress
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you arent using the cpu really

umbral kayak
fresh summit
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Which begs the question, why not put a 4090 in your current pc?

umbral kayak
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I don't have a PC capable of this

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For a 4090

zinc cypress
fresh summit
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What specs does your current PC have?

zinc cypress
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cpu will not have much power draw

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the gpu is more of concern

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getting one of the 40 series will be better for effeciency than the 30 series

umbral kayak
zinc cypress
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why dont you just buy the gpu

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instead of building a new pc

umbral kayak
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Power Supply?

zinc cypress
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upgrad that too

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but not a whole pc

fresh summit
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Instead of building a PC just for Salad, why not just get a PC for yourself, and run Salad when you're not using it?

zinc cypress
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fr

umbral kayak
zinc cypress
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a pc dedicated to salad contianers would not be a very good long term investment

umbral kayak
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No need for a 4090

fresh summit
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I wouldn't dismiss this idea so hastily if I were you

umbral kayak
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U don't have a 4k monitor

fresh summit
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I mean I've got one, but it paid itself off back when mining was profitable

umbral kayak
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I will get some profits

zinc cypress
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🗿

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ok bye i have a life too

fresh summit
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There's also the fact that you may not even have GPU container jobs all the time

umbral kayak
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I will get 1800 dollars per year

fresh summit
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mmm I wouldn't be too sure about that, honestly

umbral kayak
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Selling computer upgrading them to their maximum and get monitised

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So I will get money

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Maybe I will build the pc when the 5090 comes

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I just want a profit machine for getting profits for free

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@fresh summit that's all?

idle marten
fresh summit
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Noctua isn't the only company capable of building silent cooling products -.-

umbral kayak
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I want to run it even on night

fresh summit
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My final recommendation would be to just replace your current PC with this new build, probably upgrading the CPU and motherboard a bit from your current list, and adding more NVME storage for games and whatnot.
Basically nobody has a second PC dedicated to Salad, for good reasons. They'd much rather have the powerful PC themselves, and run Salad on it while they're AFK or not gaming.

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You can even run your new main PC overnight :)

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From your current specs, it would be a very noticeable upgrade, assuming you play any games at all lol

idle marten
fresh summit
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Not something I'd really recommend..

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If the customer notices your GPU isn't performing as expected, they can very easily no longer run their jobs on your PC.

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And they'll likely know how your hardware is supposed to perform by comparing other similarly specced PCs, or just from Salad's own benchmarks ;)

umbral kayak
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Now

idle marten
fresh summit
umbral kayak
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I will get some money on future

marsh briar
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This is the dumbest idea possible

fresh summit
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Definitely not the dumbest idea that's been presented here heh

marsh briar
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There's another guy who is seriously considering buying 100 pcs

umbral kayak
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Fist build a gaming pc

umbral kayak
marsh briar
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salad

plush valve
umbral kayak
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BRUH

zinc cypress
umbral kayak
plush valve
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what

silk kestrel
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I literally had the same idea lol. Same GPU as well.

umbral kayak
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Why this is dumb

silk kestrel
umbral kayak
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Wtf

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@silk kestrel

silk kestrel
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💀💀

silk kestrel
umbral kayak
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I should put a PC case

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?

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I can store the PC on a IKEA

silk kestrel
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