Bandwidth Sharing FAQs + Troubleshooting

[empty hinge]

8 hours running got a container but no sgs

[midnight blaze]

do u guys have the same problem

my bw sharing ded

the balance/graph wont change

and sgs isnt running

[empty hinge]

we suffering from no sgs syndrome

[midnight blaze]

😭

[empty hinge]

did a restart and if this is not good enought to start i'm not getting sgs ever again

[gleaming shell]

no super gay syndrome :(

I want it back

(not really, I make nothing anyways)

(NVM I do, still extra profit)

[gleaming shell]

(nvm i dont, i have to babysit it every hour just for it to die for no reason)

[thorny imp]

sweden bandwidth is actually goated now

lets see how long it'll last this time.

Before it held for maybe 2 hours

Daisy gateway btw

[empty hinge]

💀 u guys are no t only getting sgs but jobs

[gleaming shell]

we got the same rf****

[empty hinge]

[gleaming shell]

we got the same gpu too

well 1650ti for me

[gleaming shell]

salad gods hat eus

[empty hinge]

ya i also have the ti version

[empty hinge]

💀 bro i think we should make a new salad id

[thorny imp]

1m chart in glasswire 👍

[gleaming shell]

averake uk-er

nvm bros the same person from earlier

[empty hinge]

you lucky peoples

[gleaming shell]

its so over

[thorny imp]

sweden is usually hell for bw jobs, this gotta be the first one in months

[empty hinge]

dont jinx it like this then

[empty hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-all-folks-the-end-its-over-gif-21774675

[thorny imp]

No >:) I got my moment to brag now

[gleaming shell]

cpu containers :(

[empty hinge]

good for you buddy enjoy until the good times last

[empty hinge]

atleast the cpu containers

[thorny imp]

seen too many UK-ers share their moments with like 2GB every min, time to enjoy my tenth of that'

[empty hinge]

time to restart salad bowl i guess

waiting for like 9 hours

[thorny imp]

i got mine on the helsinki librespeed server w/ 232/137 in speeds

[upbeat shuttle]

pfft

[thorny imp]

hold on lemme check

[upbeat shuttle]

i think i've hit double that before

[empty hinge]

🧐 wwait you guys gettting good server on librecrap

💀

[thorny imp]

with enough args in the ndm config, yeah

oh and like 8 restarts of salad bowl

[empty hinge]

💀 wait what

[empty hinge]

you got job after restarting these many times???

how long it took after the last restaert

[thorny imp]

prob 30min or so

[empty hinge]

you're the proof that restarting salad bowl and not getting jobs is a myth

[thorny imp]

heres my restarts for today

[empty hinge]

but you took breaks

i'm sometimes like 5 restaert in 5 mins

[thorny imp]

yeah, i have a life unlike some people here

[empty hinge]

cuz librecrap always gives the same server again and again

[empty hinge]

wdym huh

[thorny imp]

however i did restart a lot on the 26th because germany server was really bad

restarted it til i got helsinki

[empty hinge]

💀 but on 26th you didnt had a job

right?

[thorny imp]

had a small one that lasted for maybe 12 hours

paid out maybe 0.1 in total

[empty hinge]

i guess it was static pay then

💀 thanks for giving me hope now i go and restart haha

[thorny imp]

tbh if people just spend half the time following the standard of what people do and instead experiment as much as the ToS allows (not modifying shit) they'll get results

[empty hinge]

💀 trust me

they won't

[thorny imp]

worked for me and my friend in the netherlands

[empty hinge]

i've tried eerything

[thorny imp]

oh and my classmate

[empty hinge]

you guys did restart for several speed tests

its not standard ig

[thorny imp]

the standard is "oh dont restart salad bowl!!!1 it'll tank your sgs job rate!"

[empty hinge]

💀 ya

i guess that happening with me rn

[thorny imp]

but sgs really only needs a high librespeed test to work, then whatever the fuck that happens after sgs opens is NOT affected by librespeed

thats what i've noticed at least

[empty hinge]

ya me too

but getting sgs

nto about sgs job rates

sgs starting T_T

no sgs syndrome is real

[thorny imp]

trust me, i had the same issue til i just restarted enough times to get a good speed

then it's always started by itself after like 20-30 min

sgs that is.

[empty hinge]

🫡 okay brother lets seee then

[thorny imp]

it ofc depends on your speeds that you pay for

i pay for 500/500 but get around 200/150 on librespeed but it still works

[empty hinge]

💀 but the thing is this speed was enough like a week ago and from after that

ya librecrap never shows my speed

Hey! guys have something changed about the minimum requirments to start sgs?

[thorny imp]

.

[gleaming shell]

fr

ever since the ping issue on the only working server im able to use, its been always choosing the horrible server located in ohio that is so bad it sometimes goes below the speed requirements for bandwidth sharing

[empty hinge]

i guess its not salad its librecrap gods that are offended from us

[gleaming shell]

salad goda hate me too

sgs is literally rng here

[empty hinge]

💀 no container

[empty hinge]

and the fact that we never get a number that starts our sgs

lets see if this works or not

[gleaming shell]

maybe if actual nearby some isp sponsored speedtesting servers were used instead of slow barely even functional bs sponsored server we wouldnt have to deal with all this

[empty hinge]

but what can we do about this librecrap no bs policy

[gleaming shell]

they should change it to "only bul;lshit"

[empty hinge]

@gleaming shell

bro

bro

bro

[gleaming shell]

a

[empty hinge]

💀 the salad gods

[gleaming shell]

wtf

i wouldnt be able to get that no matter what

salad goda hat me

[empty hinge]

🫡 keep trying buddy

i guess as tht guy said it was really about getting one good test

no matter how many times you restart

[gleaming shell]

even if i do get a maxed out speed test, i cant get sgs

[empty hinge]

UK traffic?

[misty furnace]

what's sgs

[empty hinge]

dont know man

[midnight blaze]

💀

lets go

finally

😭

[latent breach]

I hate sgs

[lavish glen]

i love sgs

[empty hinge]

congrats bud congrats

[empty hinge]

ahh the static pay

which gateway i got henna

[latent breach]

holy libreshit

[frigid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[frigid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-eels-shrimple-ratio-its-as-shrimple-as-that-gif-26924682

[latent breach]

Any throughput?

[latent breach]

Better this time

[frigid reef]

krill issue?

my speeds are just fine (considering i have bw sharing running and vast using bw)

[latent breach]

Big breaking: Mods left using Salad

[frigid reef]

im testing other platforms nothing wrong with that

if the usecase is better for you then leave no one is telling anyone to stay

[latent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/you-havent-done-anything-wrong-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20791439

[thorny imp]

Vast?

[frigid reef]

another platform for more advanced users then salad, requires a dedicated machine for it and high uptime

[thorny imp]

I see, could you perhaps link it? I should have a thinkbox laying around my house somewhere

[frigid reef]

a thinkbox wont even be supported

[thorny imp]

[frigid reef]

vast.ai if you want to look into it though

[thorny imp]

Alrighty, thank you :)

[empty hinge]

yeah not much though

henna is just your sgs is on get the static only

[midnight blaze]

what's henna?

[latent breach]

A gateway

[empty hinge]

what's yours

btw does gateway changes ??

like i've seen sometimes it changes between henna and athelas

[latent breach]

Got 2 different gateways on 2 devices

2x static pay😂

[empty hinge]

🤣 lmaooo

good for you

but athelas not having jobs

quite rare

[latent breach]

I think none of the gateways are getting jobs now....coming from experience

[empty hinge]

😦

ahh

bad thign

[empty hinge]

btw bro is it really true that gateway switches by itself or it was just my luck

[latent breach]

Gateway switches automatically

[empty hinge]

just made my diwali better

haha

[latent breach]

Happy diwali

[empty hinge]

Happy diwali bud

got my sgs today morning

above cloud 9

[misty furnace]

happy halloween as well

[latent breach]

Happy Halloween🎃🎃

[misty furnace]

hey guys... libresh** is alive!

[gleaming shell]

(only on halloween)

[thorny imp]

sweden gateway has at least gotten bandwidth jobs for me now for roughly 27 hours, though its not fully stable with said jobs

[empty hinge]

finally they fixed it or is it that 1 in a thousand good runs

[gleaming shell]

very likely 1/1000 good runs

librespeed will never be good

[empty hinge]

🧐 but this does mean he should've got his sgs active seems like good result

[misty furnace]

Never(TM)

[empty hinge]

tf

[misty furnace]

I think salad has a personal vendetta against my IP

it has been 3 months now

[empty hinge]

ya then its personal

[misty furnace]

if you want to check, this site will always error out until I get sgs. if I get sgs, it will work again: https://metrics.cursedatom.dev/

[empty hinge]

my sgs used 300 mb in 24h and gave me 0.1$

[empty hinge]

will check this everyday

[misty furnace]

that's the US price for 100gb prob

[gleaming shell]

wtf like 30gb in the us makes that much

[empty hinge]

mine is just static pay no jobs

[gleaming shell]

artound 30-50

[gleaming shell]

also dont got that here

[misty furnace]

imagine static pay

[gleaming shell]

fr

[empty hinge]

💀 region has gone dry

@latent breach acording to this we've 3 gateways in our region you can use a third device too

[gleaming shell]

honeygain pays 20 cents per gb while salad pays like 0.003 to 0.004 here in the us 💀

[misty furnace]

or if I decide to drag/drop an sgs log in the folder so my site will work (or if--heaven forbid-- I actually fix my website)

[gleaming shell]

(though this without the cost of your ip address getting comepletely ducked)

[empty hinge]

so honeygain messes around with your ip?

[gleaming shell]

its rare but can happen

[empty hinge]

💀 is this the reason ifor no sgs there wwas an android device lying around so i connected it to wifi and left honeygain on

[gleaming shell]

idk what caused my ip fraud score so go so high this time tho

[empty hinge]

but it wasnt earning anything so i closed it

[empty hinge]

[gleaming shell]

normally you should be able to run salad with honeygain

[empty hinge]

but in my region honeygain is absolutely sh*t i would say

until you switch on content delivery

[gleaming shell]

honeygain in the us is pretty good

(earns more than salad for me)

[misty furnace]

so wait, is my dad in ohio or ireland?

[empty hinge]

ireland i would say

[empty hinge]

static pay goes brr

[tardy swan]

https://tenor.com/view/aerodynamics-airplane-cat-kinemaster-wtf-gif-22727783

this app is so peak

[latent breach]

I have been using Salad for about 10 months now, but I have never got the Wattle gateway

[empty hinge]

💀 feels sorry for you

[empty hinge]

i was thinking the same never got wattle

[empty hinge]

i had a job for full 10 minutes

[hollow vortex]

Get a new IP , I went 2 months , said ya know what , bet a new IP I get it instantly , no doubt everyday after no issues. Had no issues with IP rep either .

[empty hinge]

Just a question whats like problem with the ip if it has good ip fraud score and quality score

[misty furnace]

I literally can't get a new IP. I already called my ISP and they said no

[hollow vortex]

No idea, mine was good, over a year same IP and then boom 2 months nothing. Figure I'd try a new IP and bam . Worked like it use to. 🤷

[upbeat shuttle]

the incredibly awful logic of ipqualityscore

[misty furnace]

my ip score is 28, and that 28 is based off my ISP's overall rep

my school's ip is bad enough that you have to captcha to use google

[gleaming shell]

I make a free account: gives a limited number of requests and weird score
I make an account: gives another score but it's "basic blacklist checks only" so I need to pay an insane amount to see actual score

[gleaming shell]

I wonder if salad uses ipqs

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah

[gleaming shell]

(if they do, maybe they could have use that money for a ookla speedtest license)

[empty hinge]

💀 straight up facts

[upbeat shuttle]

no they probably use the free tier lol

[misty furnace]

the free tier is 5000 lookups per month

at least that's what my account shows

[upbeat shuttle]

they could probably work with that

[empty hinge]

considering the number of users its pretty less

[upbeat shuttle]

like 8k daily active users or whatever, and they didn't all just pop up out of nowhere

[gleaming shell]

Idek if the IP fraud score sites ar even trustworthy

[upbeat shuttle]

not at all

[gleaming shell]

Ipqs shows my IP fraud score as 100, then 20
Then I go on scamalytics and that shows my fraud score as 8 💀

[upbeat shuttle]

fraudsters swap out ips frequently

so why even bother

[misty furnace]

the other sites show mine as 0

[gleaming shell]

Scamalytics fluctuate so much

one day it could be 0, next day 90, third day 20, fourth day 2

[misty furnace]

yeah mine is good

[gleaming shell]

Ohh salad probs also use ipqs to ban accounts with "fraudulent email"

They have an email check too

[misty furnace]

that's more likely their use case

[gleaming shell]

Which is... Likely BS because I created my email in 2019, not 2017

Atleast

Still sucks that innocent users can't get unbanned from salad :(

[misty furnace]

imma check my email

mine also shows 8 years ago, but I created that email in 2015

also it has been seen in a data breach lmao

[gleaming shell]

Same

[jovial fiber]

wow 400MB in 5 min

it's at 60% of my connection

[misty furnace]

fire

[hollow vortex]

🤔

[empty hinge]

is there any way to change your sgs gateway

[lone solstice]

We don't use IPQS to ban users, and users not involved in fraudulent activities in Salad have nothing to fear

[lone solstice]

No, the gateway authorizes access to your account once the client requests your machine. You can't select a gateway since the client is the one that has to select your machine

[upbeat shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/reroll-artesianbuilds-gif-25031225

[empty hinge]

🫡 thanks for the information

[latent breach]

@empty hinge How's you bandwidth sharing going on?

[empty hinge]

henna gateway mostly static but made 0.5$ as for now in like 100 GB probably

hows yours with minimum static pay from 2 devices XD big brain

the seasonal job of henna

sometimes my sgs consumes so much data that it aint even visible in glass wire when i see the consumption in past 5 minutes

[gleaming shell]

oh nice to know

[misty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-skander-big-brother-gif-21303304

[tidal bough]

new canada gateway

4 in total now

located in chicago

[lavish glen]

whats the list of gateways

[gleaming shell]

bruh wtf

why didnt they make that a us gateway adksjnxcgl

that would be the gateway closest to me

we gor gaterways for other countries located in the us yet we still got the worst bandwidth ever

[lavish glen]

well hold on a minute

who told you that you deserve it

[gleaming shell]

I just want a new IP so I can get SGS man

[lavish glen]

maybe you need to answer for your crimes

have you thought of that

[gleaming shell]

never

[lavish glen]

you are sentenced to

[gleaming shell]

mm

[thorny imp]

call your ISP, i did that and they gave me a proper IP

had a datacenter ip for some reason before

[lavish glen]

he doesnt have a datacenter ip

its just that hes flagged as sus

[thorny imp]

ah

[misty furnace]

my isp just dgaf about me

I have called 3 times asking for a new ip, once because of a ddos attack. they still refuse.

I even got a new router and moved but still have the same IP

[thorny imp]

change isp?

if thats possible ofc

[misty furnace]

wish I could. they're the only isp in the area with more than 150mbit

[thorny imp]

:(

[misty furnace]

to add insult to injury, they also only offer the gigabit service at my address, but 2 houses down they have 5gbit. given that I only have access to 1gbit, the wavelength used for the fiber also makes it impossible for me to use a 3rd party router

[thorny imp]

i am suddenly very happy that the nordics have a 5g network and at least 1Gbit everywhere.

i think i have access to 10Gbit but i got no money nor hardware that can handle that

getting a 10Gbit nic isnt hard now that i think about it but its the cost of the speed that would be wayy to costly

I'll be fine with 500/500 for a while more 💀

[gleaming shell]

ok i thought my isp suck

[thorny imp]

mfw i just realised that you contributed to soopyv2

i thought i recognized your user from somewhere

[misty furnace]

yea

[thorny imp]

[misty furnace]

I used to play a ton of hypixel skyblock. the good days

I'm still an admin in the discord and sometimes give an announcement, just not often

[thorny imp]

ic

i believe i still use that mod to this day, even though its outdated.

1 sec lemme check my mod folder

ah yeah, i do

[misty furnace]

also something to note about the installer, it's definitely easy to add malware to. glad it's hosted on my github and collecting cobwebs rather than in someone else's github that could be modified

I'll dm details

[thorny imp]

oh? i mean i havent really updated my mods in like

forever

dont really play anymore

[empty hinge]

@latent breach should i restart the salad bowl in hopes of getting athelas

[misty furnace]

bad idea

imagine librespeed gives you bad results and you don't get sgs for weeks

[empty hinge]

ahhh

not doing that

if people are not earning much and complaining then who is redeeming all the paypal and steam balance cards XD

[latent breach]

You have henna running now?

[empty hinge]

yaa

[empty hinge]

💀 i was thinking of deploying my other laptop with only igpu for bw sharing is it eligible with igpu

[upbeat shuttle]

bandwidth sharing doesn't really have any hardware requirements

just a fast enough device to handle the network throughput

[latent breach]

Update from my end: It's mostly static pay, from 1 PM today I started using Salad on my other device.
So, 2 device 2x static pay

[empty hinge]

lets go lemme wipe the dust of that machine and see if it still turns on the intel pentium

mostly static a few minor jobs here and there

[upbeat shuttle]

well that's all a job. the flat low parts are static pay. the spikes are when bandwidth gets transferred + static pay.

[empty hinge]

thanks or the information

[empty hinge]

💀 a very weird doubt we've two community managers ( i've seen only 2 of em )
so many mods so many support assistants

but there's only one language mod

💀 bro knows something that we dont know

[latent breach]

Man finally.....

Don't know how long it will last

[frigid reef]

we have 9 language mods???

they just mostly stick to their channel or are also a mod/csa

[latent breach]

it freaking died

[misty furnace]

we have 2 community managers?

honestly only ever seen angaroo

[upbeat shuttle]

updated the gateways list

quite a few new ones

and two new countries maybe

plus portugal, according to a guy in the subreddit

[upbeat shuttle]

fucked up

i think my 2.5g card is dying 😩

it just completely cut out, couldn't even access any local ips

[misty furnace]

these containers bro

[gleaming shell]

idk if unplugging my router for 12 hours could give me a new ip

but i dont think i can do that

my brother isnt gonna survive without this internet

[tidal bough]

use your mobile hotspot and set the name and password as the same as your routers name and password

he'll never notice

[gleaming shell]

itll work until my hotspot gets throttled to 600kbps

[edgy mulch]

I live in Puerto Rico and I want to know. Can I bandwith share in my location?

[lavish glen]

you cannot

you can check in the pins

[edgy mulch]

Ok.

[edgy mulch]

Where are the pins?

[lavish glen]

top right

the pin icon

[edgy mulch]

I'm on mobile.

I'm new here.

[lavish glen]

@safe loom

[edgy mulch]

Sorry.

[safe loom]

what

[edgy mulch]

Where can I find the pinned comments on mobile?

[safe loom]

click on the channel name at the top

then i think its like settings or something

then pinned messages

[edgy mulch]

Thanks. I found it.

[tidal bough]

wtf why is it in the settings

no one will ever find that

[lavish glen]

its not

but it is like

nicely hidden

[upbeat shuttle]

no it is awfully hidden

discord should fire their mobile app devs and bring back a version from 2 years ago

[gleaming shell]

yeah for some reason, pinned messages are in "settings" for threads on the mobile app

like how are pinned messages settings?

[lavish glen]

you get what i meant

[latent breach]

India really got another gateway?

[gleaming shell]

10 gateways in the us
only one of them has some jobs

(maybe 9 if that one gateway is actually for canada)

[tidal bough]

very little traffic on that gateway

[lavish glen]

ur very little

[narrow tiger]

im following u

[lavish glen]

you want a hug or something

[narrow tiger]

[lavish glen]

i know no boundaries

i know no limits

be careful what you wish for

[narrow tiger]

wjat

[lavish glen]

ozua has made the mistake

and still

i have mercy

but you may not be so lucky

your fate is in your hands

I merely am the enforcer

I have only one duty

so do not blame me

[narrow tiger]

[lavish glen]

may the lord forgive me

ok im back

[latent breach]

Why is it that whenever I turn my laptop screen on, the bw sharing earning drops drastically. sgs goes on to use only 1/3rd of bandwidth it was using earlier...sometime the job itself dies.....
I just turned on the screen and the earning dropped like that... @onyx scarab

[upbeat shuttle]

maybe waking the screen up and other apps suddenly using CPU makes the CPU max out momentarily?

[empty hinge]

@latent breach which gateway?

[latent breach]

IN-1

[empty hinge]

henna?

cuz that's IN-1 ig

broooooooooo my pc switched off and T_T ffff it died in front of my eyes

[latent breach]

don't know.

but its athelas

It says "Bandwidth-SGS-IN"

Overall decent earning today....it's probably dying rn

[empty hinge]

fuk salad

uk it

bro my sgs started

and after a while i get a notification salad is degraded and sgs closed

for no effin reason i had only salad running on the pc

[latent breach]

Windows Security killed my sgs

[empty hinge]

💀 bro

you suffered from same problem right noww or like in the past

for the 11th time librecrap is giving me shitty test

[thorny imp]

run these settings and the problem will be solved.

should look like this when done.

[empty hinge]

💀ya

but

it has closed my sgs once

and now

it's

f'ed

bricked

librecrap

[thorny imp]

i've been having static pay for 2 days now :(

with small jumps sometimes

[empty hinge]

fuck this salad bowl until i get good librecrap test

i was happy with static

but get my sgs running

[thorny imp]

heres my 24h so far

[latent breach]

I just realized today that it was Windows secuirity itself

[empty hinge]

you guys got it started somehow

[empty hinge]

so you got it back on?

[latent breach]

It is still running...but not using bandwidth

[empty hinge]

ITS RUNNING means it can use bandwidth in future

[latent breach]

Hope so

[empty hinge]

but on my ened

this

libre

eff it

i'm done wwit this shit

just give me one good test

and get my sgs running

and eff it

[gleaming shell]

best librespeed experience:

[empty hinge]

🫡 the only thing i wanna say is ********** librespeeed

finally got mine but its the worst gateway

[empty hinge]

bro was tht theory true that gateways can change

?

[latent breach]

Yeah, absolutely.

Mine switches between athelas and henna

[misty furnace]

you can use a backslash ( \ ) to escape the * characters.

\*\*\*\*

****

[gleaming shell]

f word librespeed

[misty furnace]

which one

[latent breach]

but only when you restart salad bowl or restart salad or restart pc

[gleaming shell]

duck

[misty furnace]

ducking duck

[latent breach]

fourier transform

[gleaming shell]

"duck it"

[empty hinge]

nh i used **** these only

[empty hinge]

then getting sgs is a nightmare for me

gonna stick to henna for few days

[empty hinge]

then will do a switch and see if its worth it

[empty hinge]

////

lmao

[misty furnace]

\/\/\/\/

[empty hinge]

*******

crused atom

considering you;ve seen me crying too much about no sgs

noww i;ve sgs on a sh**y gateway should i restart or not

[misty furnace]

up to you

[empty hinge]

i wouldve been so f'in rich if i made the" up to you" type decisions

XD

[misty furnace]

"up to you bro"

[gleaming shell]

lol crused atom

[robust creek]

This night sgs died and never came back again yet

[idle quiver]

i am sure there are other services who give good amount in us

[misty furnace]

happened to me in august

it's never coming back

[robust creek]

pc did not reboot, internet kept working fine

it's salad's issue

[gleaming shell]

there are, 2 of them earn more than salad (most of the time)
however one of them can wreck your ip and the other one also kinda needs babysitting, not as much as salad but still requires babysitting

[thorny imp]

mine did the same from saturday night > sunday morning

i believe it cut randomly at like 5am

[gleaming shell]

happens to me too :(

it would run perfectly fine, no interruptions, actively sharing bandwidth in the middle of jobs with good network usage then all the sudden salad would stop it for no apparent reason, and most times i won't get another workload until I restart salad, but some times (now) it's gone for a prolonged time

Same thing goes with earnapp too except for gone for prolonged time, but that's not salad so thats another story

[robust creek]

in winter i have some power cuts because the house heater works with electricity and my father doesn't increase the voltage to save some $ in the bill so.. if sgs will come back and still earn 1-2$ a day, i will definitelly get an UPS

[gleaming shell]

i want a ups even though i have no use for one lol

theres no power cuts at where i live

[misty furnace]

I can change that

[gleaming shell]

rt

[robust creek]

sgs is back

[gleaming shell]

nice

\mine is so not back

(i might try unplugging my router for ~12 hours but idk if thatll work and i need a time to do that which is never since my brother will kill me if i unplug the router)

[robust creek]

why 12 hours tf

[gleaming shell]

my isp suck ass

i wanna try to get a new ip without having to call them

since my parents arent home, i dont have the isp info n stuff

[robust creek]

i directly have static ip without any chance of change it XD

[gleaming shell]

my isp requires customer to pay for a static ip, it adds an extra $5 to the internet bill every month

and its outside of their ddos protection

why tf does my isp have so little ips

[robust creek]

nono, with my isp, static ip is mandatory, no possibility to get dynamic, and idk why but even if you ask them to change ip, they won't do that... i had to wait 8 months for my ip to get cleaned again

i had honegain and other crap running

my ip was destroed

oioi

[gleaming shell]

dam

[robust creek]

i had* now not anymore obv

[gleaming shell]

i have a "dynamic ip" but i cant even change it easily

my ip rep is also ducked up

ipqs gives a super high fraud score for my ip, and i cant get sgs with it

[robust creek]

i have something like 28 score

before running any app back in 2021 it was 0 score

after running scamgain, earnapp etc it had 99

and kept being 99 for 8 months

[gleaming shell]

idek what caused my ip score to all the sudden go so bad

my first ever ip used to have a 89 fraud score, its back down to 0 now

[robust creek]

gg

no, my ip sadly never wenrt back to 0

prob because i have salad running anyways

or idk

[tame flicker]

Maybe your ip is used by multiple household and one of them did bad stuff

[gleaming shell]

well my brother does... go on sketchy sites to watch movies afaik

but im wondering if its also bc my ip is "cgnat"

[tame flicker]

Personally my isp give 1ip for 4household so you have only 1/4 of the port aviable

[robust creek]

my ip is static and completely private, no one else has it

[tame flicker]

Kinda annoying when you run game server and some of them doens't allow you to change port

[robust creek]

and i know it because doesn't have NAT

[gleaming shell]

im wondering if it could be others that also share my ip completely ruining my ip

and my isp dosent even support ipv6

[tame flicker]

Yep, this is a possibility, you can try to contact their support to see if it's the case

[gleaming shell]

i wish i could, sadly my parents arent home and they are the ones with the information

so i cant call my isp to give me a new ip :(

i could pay an extra 5 dollars per month for an ip address but noones gonna do that crap, the internet bill is already expensive enough here

[tame flicker]

I know that my isp I can request to have my ip only for me but it would mean that my mom need to log in and just talking about wifi give her ptsd due to the ethernet cable on the floor going to my computer ;-;

You should check on forums if they do shared ip or not

[empty hinge]

salad keeps killing the sgs is this something with salad
or issue on my end

[misty furnace]

not an issue typically. I think it's just the demand

[empty hinge]

but that's where static pay comes in play na

it just closed the sgs

happened twice in 24 h

and its not back yet

librecrap starts giving me some good speedtests and well lets see now

after 12 restarts i've got a lil good

[gleaming shell]

"after 12 restarts"

noone should have to do all this just to get an app working

[misty furnace]

me when I have this but still no sgs

[empty hinge]

well what can I say about librespeed

a very weird result but somehoww got sgs running

[errant plume]

Gave salad a try, had bandwith sharing enabled for 5-6 hours, however my IP now shows as this

should I be worried or is it fine?

[safe loom]

what does any of this mean brother

[safe loom]

ipqs is full of it

they show a fake result until you pay

they'll give you 5 points to fraud if your isp hasn't swapped the ip timezone to daylight saving or vice versa and you check the ip while connected

[tame flicker]

Simplified it's that my isp split ip into 4, so multiple house will have the same ip and in my case I have ports from 1k6 to 3k2 but you can log onto the isp website so send a request to have a ip only for you.

So someone else can have your ip and possibly do bad things with it

[safe loom]

thats cringe

i can have 4 ips per customer

static

[latent breach]

Are you sure that this was caused by Salad?

Cause, 5-6 hours of bandwidth sharing might not be the reason why your IPs fraud score jumped to 89.
To add, I guess it takes decent time for the score to update. It's not that you're running bandwidth sharing now, and the score will update in real-time.

[lavish glen]

oh you live in one of those broke countries

[lavish glen]

what happened is their isp would have to buy more ips and i think you know its not cheap

if u hadnt claimed a fuckton of ips early on ur cooked

[safe loom]

thats rough as gutss

[tame flicker]

I don't think that France is a broke country

[lavish glen]

???

what kind of cheap ass isp did you dig up

[tame flicker]

And if it make it cheaper I'm nor really for it, internet is already cheap I pay 40€/month for 1.5G down and 700mb up

[lavish glen]

????

thats expensive what kind of weird isp are you with

are you in a parallel universe

[tame flicker]

Went with "free"

I mean if you compare to other they are cheapers

[lavish glen]

this is some doctor who shit

what happened

where are you

[tame flicker]

maybe I'm in the metaverse

[lavish glen]

are you in mainland?

[tame flicker]

Yeah I'm in mainland france

[lavish glen]

where bro

[tame flicker]

In the 2nd or 3rd biggest city

[lavish glen]

im so lost

i dont like the large cities tbh

[tame flicker]

Don't have a choice, gotta follow my mom

[lavish glen]

show me where you got specifically 1.5gbps

for 40€

[tame flicker]

Let me search it

[lavish glen]

you should go live somewhere with less population when you can

its a lot better

??

is it this

[tame flicker]

https://www.free.fr/freebox/freebox-pop/

[lavish glen]

ok

[tame flicker]

Yep this one

I thought it was 40bucks

[lavish glen]

thats 5gbps and free is kinda bad

[tame flicker]

Na 5gbps max

[lavish glen]

if you dont have anything that can do 5gbps its kinda useless

[tame flicker]

I get 1.5g with is a very good amount compared to other

[lavish glen]

still theres a reason people avoid free

im going with SFR

[tame flicker]

The 5 gig is also kinda fake because they add the max of all ethernet port and wifi

Sfr don't have fiber where I live

[lavish glen]

they give people their own ip, and its not really more expensive

[tame flicker]

And I kinda prefer free way of managing their freebox

[lavish glen]

🤷

[tame flicker]

Just going inside to do port forwarding and VPN is much easier than orange and others

[lavish glen]

yeah but orange gives you your own ip

[tame flicker]

Yeah, I had that before but in my building a lot of people switch to free in 2years like there is only 2box with orange

Were I live free is the best, it depend a lot of that

[lavish glen]

ig

in my building bouygues was the one to install fiber

people choose random ones though

[tame flicker]

I used a wifi analyzer on my phone to check, you generally see much more result that are otherwise excluded due to range

[lavish glen]

they didnt update it yet

but it is here already

[tame flicker]

Nice for you

Way better than VDSL

My dad still has that and I hate it

20mbps max

[tame flicker]

Funfact, I have the same plate for orange saying that there is fiber but in reality no

Only free had when I moved in

[lavish glen]

i mean someone has to have it

ill go ask every isp

until someone gives me internet

[peak ginkgo]

OK

[cobalt gust]

ive earnt nothing and i see people talking about sgs client bbut ive never seen that with my salad 1.7

[misty furnace]

it's not a guaranteed thing, more like a luck of the draw

[cobalt gust]

i understadn however ive had it over a month and never seen it run. the only way ive earnt with my rig is through crypto mining

3070ti 5700x3d 32 giggs ram

[misty furnace]

I haven't had it in over 3 months. it is what it is

[cobalt gust]

ah i see i wondered if it was just me

[empty hinge]

nh everyone go through the period where they get no sgs

[cobalt gust]

also from the uk so not sure that will help

[latent breach]

When it comes to bandwidth sharing, UK people are the most lucky people

[cobalt gust]

Yeah so I'm wondering what's going on 😭😂

[errant plume]

I'm certain it is, given I've used up the same amount of data as I normally would have in the next 2-3 months

Plus the IPs for my other devices don't show as fraudulent, only the one where I started running salad (bandwith sharing)

If it was just container workloads I imagine it would be alright, aside from my ISP perhaps getting angry at the usage, but as much as I see salad trying to claim that bandwith sharing is "safe" (which may be the case) it still doesn't stop it from completely ruining your IP like it happens with Honeygain/any bandwith software of the sort

[latent breach]

How much internet has your sgs used in November?

[errant plume]

Just started chopping yesterday for the first time, its used close to 200gb in a single day w bandwith sharing enabled

and just that given I'm running an Rx 6800 so no container works for me

[latent breach]

Woah, woah, woah, woah, Woah, woah, woah, woah, Woah, woah, woah, woah, Woah, woah, woah, woah

[gleaming shell]

whys there a

[latent breach]

Windows snipping tool😅

[empty hinge]

i had those spikes too earned 0.5 in like 4 hours

[gleaming shell]

I had a 42-60 cent (I forgot which) earnings in 15 minutes before

Pretty sure my bandwidth was completely saturated from it

Man, the good old days when us bandwidth was atleast somewhat good

[gleaming shell]

It lasted a while so my 24h earnings were around 2.67 dollars

[safe loom]

looks like a city skyline

also looks like suddam husseins hiding spot

[cobalt gust]

Now that is advanced humor

Say hello to the new galaxy note 10

[cobalt gust]

Hi

[idle quiver]

😭😭

Us presidential election was fun to watch sadly the series is over

[lavish glen]

its ok

trump will entertain us

[upbeat shuttle]

or kill us

50/50

[safe loom]

how the fuck saddam hussein got anything to do with 2024 us presidential election

[idle quiver]

When did i say it has

[idle quiver]

Trump offers flight for immigrants and asylum seekers (backhome)

[lavish glen]

ok

[lavish glen]

take your meds

[civic fern]

...?

[safe loom]

why are you guys questioning me bruh

he responded to an image of saddam hussein with us election 😭

[lavish glen]

his message is unrelated

ur brain is clouded

[safe loom]

what do you mean brother

he replied and sent that message 😭

[misty furnace]

schizophenria

[idle quiver]

i was not talking about 9/11️⃣ man

i just reacted to that joke about that

2024 us presidential election is a totally diffrent thing afterall

[misty furnace]

what are you on about

[tight atlas]

h

[idle quiver]

both

[errant plume]

Is there anything that can be done to reduce the amount of times librespeed tests the network?
Its using more internet than sgs together

[misty furnace]

it is tested once every time you start your computer (or restart the saladbowl process). if that small usage is really an issue for you, then you should NOT be bandwidth sharing

[errant plume]

This is not true, I've seen usages of up to 20GB throughout the span of a few hours, with SGS only at like 3-4

You can clearly see them in task manager too, the upload&download spikes

I know it does so whenever you restart it, but I dont see why it has the need to be testing that frequently, to the point of using more than what I may be sharing

Not just complaining, but legitely curious if anything is going on or something can be done to prevent such unnecessary usage

[upbeat shuttle]

if salad is running librespeed at any point other than when saladbowl restarts or your pc restarts, that's a bug

[misty furnace]

you're experiencing issues, please message #official-support

in this case, you're the outlier for the rest of us, it only tests once.

[errant plume]

May have found the issue, so apparently whenever salad blocks the gpu (running a game or whatever) the speedtest runs once when its blocked, and again when its unblocked

I'm running a 6800 so not gona get any gpu workloads anyways, but idk why it does that

figured that given how many times I opened up Blender & other gpu heavy programs, it did that every single time (twice for each)

which is stupid, given I haven't touched salad at all, so its not just on restart apparently, but on the other hand, I feel like I could just disable the gpu there anyways and pray it doesn't continue to happen

[latent breach]

Can anybody here confirm whether henna gateway is getting any job or not?

[frigid reef]

https://people.mcdonalds.co.uk/job-search

[empty hinge]

nop

[errant plume]

got quite a big spike for bandwith sharing this morning, made around 13 cents

That was from a total of 44GB of data

out of curiosity, how much does salad pay per gb?

Rounding my numbers up it would be around 0.003$ per Gigabyte, which I've got no idea how "good" that is

From what I can read, both Honeygain (which I dislike) & pawns pay 0.20€ per GB, yet I'm unsure wether there is any difference here to justify such gap

I'd appreciate any insight on this from those that know more than me^^
Really just want to determine wether its worth keeping it on at those rates or not

[gleaming shell]

one sec gonna update my bandwidth earnings spreadsheet and answer that question

[errant plume]

ping me once uve done so, else I'l probably miss it

[gleaming shell]

btw you live in the us right?

those earnings look very us

[errant plume]

currently in the sad land of tea (UK)

[gleaming shell]

oh

[errant plume]

how so?

[gleaming shell]

oh bandwidth sharing is terrible in the us lol

[errant plume]

my calculations aren't wrong, this is 50gb and salad displays 15 cents, which turns out exactly to be 0.003$ per GB

[gleaming shell]

probably useless information since I live in the US, but the pay per gigabyte in the United states is approximately ~$0.0032 per gigabyte as of October 2024 ||(ive been recording my bandwidth earnings and data usage in a spreadsheet for over a year now, i do it as a joke now but also to see how bandwidth sharing has changed over time)||
||I calculated the pay per gigabyte by taking the total bandwidth sharing earnings for 25 days of october (since my sgs died after oct 25) and divided it by the total data usage and got 0.003239058159||

Unfortunately, Salads pay per gigabyte is very bad/low compared to other apps. However, salad shares a LOT more bandwidth than other apps, making it the reason why bandwidth sharing is still profitable. Other apps like Earnapp pay $1 per gigabyte compared to ~$0.0032 per gigabyte on salad, but they share a LOT less bandwidth than salad, talking about only a few hundred megabytes per day.

I'd say its worth keeping on since bandwidth sharing takes very little power, actually uses up unused bandwidth (you can decide if thats a good or bad thing), and its still extra profit.

whoops i accidentally pressed enter

[errant plume]

Happens,
but that is very useful information, so thank you for it!

I suppose there is still more you wana add, so I'l let you do that before I say anything else

[gleaming shell]

unfortunately it does seem like they reduced the pay per gb in the us :(

[gleaming shell]

i forgor

whoops wrong emoji

[errant plume]

lol

well, in that scenario I'm kinda unsure

Thing is unless you are running datacenter IPs, its NOT a good idea to be sharing such quanity of data per day (they will very quickly notice that there is something going on with the sheer amount of data)

I'd very much rather only run a few megabytes a day, where I know my ISP isn't gona get angry about it, to Terabytes every week only to get told off or cut completely

[gleaming shell]

I've personally havent experienced any issues with running bandwidth sharing yet, though im not sure if others have

[gleaming shell]

some people share multiple terabytes per day lol

[errant plume]

yeah well you can't do that with consumer ISP contracts

even if they say "unlimited" in every single TOS they will specify that this "unlimited" isnt actually unlimited but within reason

idk how things are in the US, but as far as I know from Spain/UK, that is the case

[gleaming shell]

literally my phone carrier

[gleaming shell]

damn

[errant plume]

its a shame because I do actually quite like the way Salad is laid out, and the several options it gives you, but at those rates its just so bad

[gleaming shell]

ye if you have a limited plan or your isp does that, i'd refrain from bandwidth sharing, or maybe stop bandwidth sharing once it uses up a cartain amount of data

[errant plume]

its not that my ISP does it, its every single ISP in Europe

[gleaming shell]

my old ISP had a limit of 1.5TB per month and will charge an extra $10 for overage fees
even though bandwidth sharing is HORRIBLE here in the us, it still uses up over 2TB every month

[errant plume]

I've yet to hear about one that lets normal consumers use datacenter-grade usages like that

[gleaming shell]

and obviously, earnings are NOT enough to pay the internet bills or the overage fees

as far as I know, bandwidth sharing is Intended to be run on residential IPs, but Ive gotten bandwidth sharing to also work on datacenter IPs which is weird

im wonder does salad like, even check users on what ip theyre using before giving bandwidth sharing workloads to them lol

[errant plume]

my obvious question is why are the rates so low?
is there any official statement about it?

[gleaming shell]

ye im also wondering why salad has a low pay per gigabyte but high bandwidth usage style

[errant plume]

like we aren't just talking about a few cents less, its a solid 60 times less than the others pay

[gleaming shell]

also dosent seem like theyve officially announced a pay per gb :(

[gleaming shell]

yeah

[errant plume]

0.003$ literally being around 65x that of 0.2

so there has to be a reason why its 65 times cheaper than others

[gleaming shell]

also i unfortunately dont know how much customers pay for bandwidth, salad has a pricing calculator for containers but not for bandwidth sharing

heres my best bandwidth sharing day, I earned $2.67 but salad used up over half a terabyte that one single day

if that were to be on my old ISP, that wouldve been over 1/3 of my entire month data allowance lol

but yeah unfortunately idk why salad has such a low ppg :(

[errant plume]

for now I think I'l just stick to GPU containers once I get access to a system at home with a proper Nvidia GPU

really dont know why salad pays so little for it but its just too much strain on the network for quarters of a cent

[gleaming shell]

do be careful though, some containers do use up a good amount of bandwidth, but most only use bandwidth when the workload downloads

[errant plume]

ya, some users warned me too, but at least that does pay somewhat better

[gleaming shell]

but yeah id say stick with containers if youre worried its going to conflict with your internet plan

outside of salad, i do want to trash about honeygains content delivery. Honeygain occasionally uses a good amount of bandwidth too due to content delivery, but the earnings are a static 14 cents per day from it :(

[errant plume]

If they decide to increase the price to something more understandable, even if that meant less GB of work then I'd def consider going back to it, but for now yeah tis clear as water

Honeygain sucks

[gleaming shell]

dosent matter if honeygain uses 3tb in a single day from cd, youll still earn the same amount as if you shared 2 bytes from cd

[gleaming shell]

ye it does lol

it ducked up my ip reputation before

[errant plume]

aside from it, salad, and pawns idk if there are any other services out there for bandwith sharing

IProyal is one but idk if you can still sell there

[gleaming shell]

Theres also Earnapp, but ive heard its HORRIBLE if youre not living in the US

so thats probably not an option for you sadly

I only trust the popular bandwidth sharing apps (im talking to you p---------e (literal fraud im pretty sure)) (censoring the app name so noone instals that crap)

[errant plume]

didn't get if thats bad or not

[gleaming shell]

(bad)

[errant plume]

I c

do hate that most platforms will have a high threshold, so that normal users wont ever reach it anyways after their IP gets completely screwed from running it

really I'm just doing all of this out of curiosity, earnings from any of this is quite literally pocket change but it still kinda amazes me what sort of things you can do

[upbeat shuttle]

I'm pretty sure most / all ISPs here in the UK are actually unlimited

and they shouldn't complain if you're using the service that you're paying for lol

you should be able to max out your connection 24/7 without a word from them

not our problem if they're being scummy and betting on most people not fully using the connection they're paying for

[errant plume]

yeah well thats the theory, but practice works different

if ur curious, were using Ask4, and I did read their terms as well as that of pretty much any other ISP I was interested in

and they all state the same when it comes to usage "we have the right to terminate your connection if we determine any suspicious high usage" or thing of the sort

and like it makes sense, you are paying for a consumer license, not a commercial or datacenter one, so its understandable theyre gona slap you for doing such.

I'd personally love to keep the bandwith sharing with Salad, unlike other sharing services, this one is rather nice.
But the very high volume & super low rates really kills it

at the current rates, you would share 1 Terabyte of data for 3$, which is kinda stupid

[gleaming shell]

Yeah 100+GB of data usage here in the us barely even scrapes like 30 cents :(

But atleast it doesn't screw your IP... Hopefully

[errant plume]

really curious to know the prices salad charges for it, but with these rates the profit margin has to be substantial

[upbeat shuttle]

with how little attention SGS has gotten from Salad, I'd have to guess there isn't too big of a margin

[errant plume]

well then mistery goes on where that 65x less rate goes to

[upbeat shuttle]

goes to benefit salad's customers i suppose

[errant plume]

perhaps, but looks like we wont know anyways

what we do know is that if any other provider is pricing at 0.20$ while salad is at 0.003, theres gota be something going on

[upbeat shuttle]

if bandwidth sharing had a massive margin, they wouldn't be using librespeed

[errant plume]

we aren't just talking about half, or even a quarter, its sixty blooming times less

[upbeat shuttle]

if salad charged those high rates, they'd have pretty much no customers

[errant plume]

there is margin to work with still

want to price them lower than anybody else? sure, put it at like 5 cents per GB

that would be the cheapest of them all, but a third of a cent is too little

furthermore residential IPs are sold for like, 1-2$ per GB (more if theyre dynamic and bla bla)

If these other services pay them at 20 cents, but sell them at those prices (which are globally average) then its still a solid margin

yet I don't get how things are setup for rates to be this low, either the customers are really getting the deal of their lives or salad is taking a huge margin

either way I'm glad to have sorted this out, cause for now I'l stick to containers

[upbeat shuttle]

I doubt it's the latter, probably just the former

(one of) Salad's first ever SGS customers are still using SGS after over two years now

[errant plume]

we cant know for sure, but ud expect it to be the latter, else it wouldn't be a good business practice.
but yeah, could also be a mixture of both

I'm not expecting anything to change, nor it was my intention anyways, but if sgs gets some love and is tweaked to fairer rates then I'm sure more peeps would def consider it

[jovial fiber]

probably because salad bandwidth is not mainly used for scraping but for streaming, which consume a lot of data
kinda impossible to pay 0.2$/GB imagine if you watch one movie (example : 3GB), it would mean that the platform streaming the content would pay at least 0.6$ to salad, for ONE movie with ONE user

other bw sharing app don't do content delivery, except honeygain which also seems to pay a lot less for that option
Honeygain content delivery pay you 6 credit / hour which equals to 0.006$ but for whatever amount you share so I would say Salad pay is better

[jovial fiber]

||packetshare?||

[misty furnace]

'tis correct.

Bandwidth sharing with salad is mostly for watching regional content on services like netflix and hulu.

[upbeat shuttle]

or triple that for a decent quality 4k movie :)

[jovial fiber]

1080p for life

[lavish glen]

honestly, 1080p for gaming doesnt feel like enough

i think 1440p is good

and 4k is too much

[jovial fiber]

you can only say that if you experienced better resolution

[lavish glen]

i never did

but im always feeling like i cant see enough in games

with 1080p

i want to see more detail but its not possible

[jovial fiber]

that's interresting, never thought about the details added by better resolution

[jovial fiber]

like in a useful way

[lavish glen]

yes it really is useful

and it looks nicer

it feels very clear

[jovial fiber]

time to buy 16k gaming monitor

[gleaming shell]

Yeah lol

Countless grammar and speeling mistakes on their website, super sketchy, and the seperate exe they use for the actual bandwidth sharing continues to run even after you uninstall the app

I tried it as a complete joke to see if they would even pay out, they didnt

[jovial fiber]

wtf, i'm happy I never installed it

[gleaming shell]

Feels like literal fraud

[jovial fiber]

i mean on trustpilot i think a lot of user are complaining of being banned for no reason no?

[gleaming shell]

If they wanna scam people atleast try to make it not sketchy and fix the 39389373 spelling mistakes on their site :skull

[jovial fiber]

lmao, someone was ip banned of paypal using it

bandwidth sharing is super sketchy in a whole

[gleaming shell]

ye

There's no actual good bandwidth sharing apps :(

[jovial fiber]

pawns is absurd as they let customer buy proxy with crypto and no kyc "for the sake of privacy"

[gleaming shell]

Honeygain bombs your IP, pawns earns super little, salad has horrendous pay per gb and requires babysitting and sometimes doesn't even work, packetstream earn very little too, packetshare is literal fraud, and the other apps aren't as popular so they're not as trustable

Earnapp is pretty good but only if you're in the us, even then that app requires a bit of babysitting too

But at the end of the day a real job overtakes all of these

[jovial fiber]

the most trustable are honeygain and earnapp i'd say, mainly for the clarity of the website for proxy customer, and they seem to have decent kyc procedure
although a reccuring problem with Honeygain (basically transmit phishing) make me think it's not as secure as they say

[gleaming shell]

I earn the most with earnapp atm

probably because america

[jovial fiber]

i don't like the fact that most of these app make direct ip connection

[gleaming shell]

I'm running honeygain and pawns again only bc my ip reputation is completely ducked, I'm waiting until I get a new IP again then I'll stop using those apps

[jovial fiber]

it's a scam (jk) why pay us 1$/GB and others 0.1$ i betrayed lol

[gleaming shell]

fr lol

[jovial fiber]

don't use pawns

[gleaming shell]

it suck

[jovial fiber]

and super sketchy

we need a nerd bw sharing platform where you vet yourself the domain you connect to and the project you want to run

[gleaming shell]

Honeygain content delivery is also scam

[jovial fiber]

yeah

it pays less than salad

[gleaming shell]

You can share like 30 terabytes if bandwidth from content delivery in a day and you'll still earn the same static 14 cents

content delivery sometimes uses up a good amount of bandwidth too, if honeygain paid for content delivery as a non static amount o would earn so much more

[jovial fiber]

i feel like all these platform are not worth it as you make like 1 cent a day and the payout threshold is super high

but i have only mobile data so maybe that explains why i get no traffic

[gleaming shell]

Honeygain has used up 70gb of bandwidth before, if CD wasn't static I would've earned a lot of dollars that day

But nope 14 cents

[jovial fiber]

lol

[gleaming shell]

Surprisingly I made more off other apps than salad

[jovial fiber]

salad you'd have pay you 0.2$

[gleaming shell]

With the cost of my IP rep that is

[jovial fiber]

wut

salad must suck hard in the us 💀

[gleaming shell]

I got like 80 cents yesterday from earnapp lol

Sadly honeygain demand has fallen

[jovial fiber]

wat, i share like less than 100MB a day max ;-;

does earnapp have like a trust factor where you share more as time passes or no ?

[jovial fiber]

i just used it today, shared 34MB in upload to honeygain server got paid for 17

also idk why but the credit i earned were multiplied by 10

[gleaming shell]

Don't think so, but afaik it only works on residential ip

[gleaming shell]

Bruh

[errant plume]

At the end of the day the argument remains the same

Similar services are paying more for less volume, independently of how good or bad the actual experience may be

I haven't tried honeygain content delivery and from what has been said I wont, but just because they pay on static or whatever doesn't make salad's rate look good either.
Fact remains that wether its movies, adult material, market analisis, whatever, salad is paying a super low rate of q third of a cent per GB

At the very least those others will separate works so that you can earn 0.2$ for proper jobs and then less for content delivery, but salad groups everything into the latter

[jovial fiber]

they could do that yeah

but most of the traffic is streaming

[gleaming shell]

salad after paying over 313x less than earnapp in the us

it uses like, very little

[errant plume]

damn

hits different when you realise that number is actually accurate

streaming or not, why are rates so low ;-;

[jovial fiber]

because it's for streaming, if salad did only scraping rate would be higher, if salad apply the same rate nobody would use it, imagine if you need to pay 2$ just to stream one movie

[jovial fiber]

salad earning tab : 2.256e-9

[errant plume]

your calculations, if any seem a bit sus but unless salad made some actual statements about it themselves then there isnt much we can do about it

[gleaming shell]

packetstream after charging $1 per gigabyte for customers but only paying bandwidth sharers $0.10 per gb

90 cent profit

[errant plume]

plus idk if you know how residential IPs work (which is what salad advertise on their website) they all go for high prices independently of what you use them for

[jovial fiber]

it's not sus, a movie is about 5GB so if salad pays you 0.2$ per GB it's 1$, if salad get said like 0.05$ margin per GB it would be 1.25$

[errant plume]

you just said 2$ before

plus you are just making these numbers up because again, we dont have actual data to see how much theyre actually charging for it

all we know is that rates are super low, wether for streaming or not

you don't have to agree with me, I'm just stating the facts, but to me its better to stick to containers until salad becomes a bit more transparent with it

[jovial fiber]

i just explain why salad can't charge as much as other platform

[errant plume]

yes but no, unless you were a dev yourself or had actual data to prove so, then its just a guess

[jovial fiber]

? salad is built to stream movies for streaming platform
imagine you are a user of the streaming platform
if you watch one movie 5GB it would cost 1$ if you are paid 0.2$/GB like other platform
nobody is willing to pay 1$ to watch a movie when they already pay a subscription
others bandwidth sharing platform sell data to companies for about 2$/GB and all their tools are for scraping purposes, there is no really alternative to salad at least that use residential ips
that's why salad can't pay you as much as other platform
all of that is facts, i know we don't know how much salad is charging the customer but it's probably not as much else it would be astronomically expensive for any company

I think I don't understand what you are trying to say sadly :/ sry

[errant plume]

that is fine

but you cannot say "imagine" and then say that is facts afterwards..

facts are things you know for certain, such as how monke and I calculated the actual rates

everything else is just a guess since we dont have the data, so although I do get the reasoning behind your explanation, it may be true, or it may not given you dont actually know the numbers or what really is going on there (only the devs to)

which is why in a way I'd wish salad were a bit more transparent with us on that regards (just as they do list rates for GPU containers) so that we can judge wether its worth doing or not

[jovial fiber]

that's just what i wanted!

[jovial fiber]

yeah that would be cool

i just feel that bandwidth communication sharing is kinda abandonned by salad

[errant plume]

does seem like so, very little transparency or info about it aside from just "have good internet and good luck with the rest"

do hoping they refine it a bit, still a great alternative to other services for sure

[gleaming shell]

salad does seem to focus more on containers though

they dont really mention anything about bandwidth sharing, and they dont even have a pricing calculator

[gleaming shell]

the bandwidth job distribution is weird too, some people go months without any bandwidth shareing

[jovial fiber]

as you need to contact sales team i think it's reserved for companies and more a price by case thing

[upbeat shuttle]

lol idk what bandwidth sharing would be like if we didn't have this thread

i worded that weirdly but you know what i mean

we'd have a fraction of the information and would have no idea what countries are actually supported, and all the different bits of knowledge about it

the announcement(s) that were made with a full list of supported countries (at the time) happened because we pushed for them

[jovial fiber]

now that you mention this it's true that we have no official information, although it's kinda the same for containers no ? I mean you need to go on salad website as a customer to see prices
Even though they are more transparent on containers

[jovial fiber]

but one person can delete this in one click

[gleaming shell]

Honestly wish bandwidth sharing was just as advertised as containers
When you go on salad.com the entire page is just about containers, nothing bandwidth related until you scroll all the way down and click on "salad gateway service" in the products

[jovial fiber]

it would be interesting to have stats about earning repartition between bw and containers

in fact

salad lacks a wiki with all the informations

(in an official way)

[jovial fiber]

they should add things to the help section

[misty furnace]

Let's make a wiki !

[jovial fiber]

nah

we need an official wiki

not a community one ;-;

even though both could be useful

[misty furnace]

a community wiki is better than none

[jovial fiber]

yeah

so people won't have to check the pins

man a page with all workloads stats would be so cool
like the number of available workload for each gpu, bandwidth workload running....

[upbeat shuttle]

that reminds me, i really hope they don't go ahead with putting sgs into containers

that'd just be making it to through another layer of unnecessary adapterism

and we all know how funky wsl's networking can be

it's fine as it is, Salad, LEAVE IT BE

crypto mining i can kinda understand though for av's, as long as they've tested there's no noticeable difference in performance!!

[jovial fiber]

just remove crypto mining, it's unprofitable anyway

[upbeat shuttle]

actually no, not even no noticeable difference, i want there to be no difference at all in performance. that'd be punishing the 98% of users that know how to whitelist something in their dumb antivirus

[upbeat shuttle]

some people have cheap or free electricity, or are kids and don't give a shit about what their parents have to pay

[jovial fiber]

yeah just reminded that, lucky people

i'd love to have a linux sgs though

[misty furnace]

I'll get to work on a google site version (proof of concept)

[misty furnace]

@jovial fiber https://sites.google.com/view/unofficial-salad-wiki/sgs random placeholder stuff

[visual grail]

Bageutte

[visual grail]

Calais(maybe small idk), Boredeaux, brest, orleans? There's quite a few dude, did I nail it though?

(sorry if wrong spelling)

[visual grail]

I forgor :skype_emoji:
No nitro 😔

[gleaming shell]

skoop

[jovial fiber]

Bordeaux....

[jovial fiber]

you should replace download more ram by https://downloadmorerem.com

[upbeat shuttle]

^^^^^

[jovial fiber]

how much is the static pay ?

0.001 $ /15 min ?

[tame flicker]

0.07$/day

[jovial fiber]

okay thanks

[visual grail]

ahh my bad 😔

[lavish glen]

i used to live near orleans

my best friend goes to the university there

[lavish glen]

i quickly passed through bordeaux at night once

it seemed nice