Bandwidth Sharing FAQs + Troubleshooting

[naive lava]

how does cpu usage have to do anything with the speeds i don't get it

[civic fern]

when you restart saladbowl, it causes to open a good amount of windows powershell processes (idk why)

[upbeat shuttle]

because transferring data requires cpu cycles

[naive lava]

i have an idea

[civic fern]

maybe that's a possible cause... but not on an amd ryzen 7 5800x

[naive lava]

lemme just check all the server ids in salad's librespeed testing each one of them

[upbeat shuttle]

oki

[naive lava]

🤔

[civic fern]

test with the italian ones first

[upbeat shuttle]

i brb

[civic fern]

anything different than Rome

bai ozua

thanks for the help

[naive lava]

idk ill see

[naive lava]

baii

[naive lava]

wait what

[civic fern]

if you fail, then try the Frankfurt one, which is guaranteed to work. ID 50

[civic fern]

yeee

[naive lava]

ok let's do this

oh and i just realised, my cpu is not being detected

sike

[civic fern]

Bologna and Bari IDs don't work

i give up, time to get frankfurt's id

[civic fern]

lol

yes, frankfurt works perfectly

thanks @upbeat shuttle :D

never thought of modifying the .yaml file

[naive lava]

ayo tf why is it asking me to login again when i restart salad bowl

nvm

[civic fern]

ayo?

also i just decided to plainly restart the pc rather than to just reset saladbowl

also, does bw sharing have some limit imposed on ping and jitter while testing?

[naive lava]

uh no

wait

ping yes

it should be <100 ms ideally

[civic fern]

because now that i pass the test... i have to wait for sgs to start up

hopefully it doesn't simply decide to not start

even when the test is now fine

[naive lava]

hmm

wait

THERE'S A BANGALORE SERVER???!

WHAA

[civic fern]

huh?

well, it is librespeed

so ig it exists...

waiting for sgs to appear

[frosty brook]

but it's ded

[naive lava]

what

[frosty brook]

yea

[civic fern]

Just like Bologna and Bari's servers

[frosty brook]

it is no working

[naive lava]

wtf

[civic fern]

those didn't work when i tested them out

[naive lava]

man i was so happy for a moment

[civic fern]

wot

[frosty brook]

disappointment

[naive lava]

bruh it's fked up

ill try again

the server

is not responding

cmonn

[civic fern]

which server

[naive lava]

bangalore, india

[civic fern]

if that doesn't work, try to get another server

yes, even ones of different countries if needed

i went with frankfurt cuz italy is just dead from the speedtesting pov

oh btw, what are your actual speeds?

[green lantern]

hey

is bw sharing not working for others in india as well?

why is it that i restarted salad and there is no new ndm log?

[civic fern]

new ndm log files get created after 30 seconds. if you keep restarting salad.bowl, the update might be in the same log

idk

[upbeat shuttle]

Note that you've gotta quit the Salad app, then end the saladbowl process in task manager

[flint galleon]

man uae is still not working 😦

[naive lava]

50 mbps both download and upload

[naive lava]

why is bangalore server behaving so weird

[upbeat shuttle]

[naive lava]

Bari, Italy is ded too

fk

Bologna hmmm

[neon blade]

apparently digital ocean stopped giving access to librespeed

[naive lava]

what is tht supposed to mean

[neon blade]

digital ocean is the server of bangalore

[naive lava]

ik

[neon blade]

the one you see in librespeed

[naive lava]

yesyes

[neon blade]

they stopped doing librespeed

thats why it doesnt work now

[naive lava]

then why is it still listed

._.

[neon blade]

nobody knows

[naive lava]

brehh

[neon blade]

i also tried it 2 months ago

perhaps they will return

someday

💀

[naive lava]

bologna ded too

sike

[neon blade]

wheres that

[jovial fiber]

yay finally i can do bandwidth sharing

[naive lava]

bologna, italy

im trying all of the servers rn

[naive lava]

ok

[civic fern]

i told u bari and bologna are dead

don't even try with rome, it doesn't work properly

[naive lava]

k noted

[naive lava]

frankfurt sux for me too

wtf where's the final upload rate

WAHT IS THIS SHITTY LIBRESPEDD

[green lantern]

same

[green lantern]

still no log file bruh

I quit salad and ended Salad bowl

and then ran salad and no ndm log

is it coz i changed the server or something?

@upbeat shuttle

[naive lava]

did u?

[green lantern]

to frankfurt

wait i set it to 50

which was frankfurt as much as i remember

[civic fern]

as for now i have no sgs

[naive lava]

just cross-check if u messed with the yaml file in a wrong way

[civic fern]

i have passed the test thpo

tho*

[naive lava]

bro

wtf

why is salad running 2 tests at once

[green lantern]

dino are you getting new log files?

[naive lava]

whyyy

WHYY

[naive lava]

yes?

[green lantern]

which tests?

[green lantern]

can you just send me your yaml

you are also in india

[naive lava]

ye

[naive lava]

why wassup

[green lantern]

yeah so can you send it please

[naive lava]

u can just send ur yaml ss here

[green lantern]

so that i do not have to change it and ill use yours coz its working

[green lantern]

ok

@naive lava

[naive lava]

💀

add " after 50

and remove " after --ipv4

[green lantern]

k thanks

[naive lava]

like this
"--ipv4 --server 50"

Helsinki, Finland (5) (Hetzner) is also ded

amazing

;-;

[zinc pollen]

U guys r manually selecting servers for sgs?

[naive lava]

selecting the best server available*

[zinc pollen]

For the speed test?

[naive lava]

obviously

to pass the bw sharing requirments

[zinc pollen]

Tell me

[naive lava]

?

what

[zinc pollen]

How to change the server

[naive lava]

How to force librespeed cli to use the server that works the best for you :
1 ) Go to https://librespeed.org/ and try different server, find the one where you get better speeds
2 ) Go to https://librespeed.org/backend-servers/servers.php and with the country, city and provider find the id associated to your server
3 ) Go in the salad workload-definitions folder on your pc ([Drive]:\ProgramData\Salad\workload-definitions) and open ndm.yaml with notepad, find the line : args: "--ipv4" and add --server with the id
You get something like : "--ipv4 --server 49" for id 49.
4 ) Save the file, if you have permission problem save it to another name (like ndm1.yaml), delete the old one, and rerename your new file to ndm.yaml.

[upbeat shuttle]

love the [Drive]

[zinc pollen]

This shld be pinned

[upbeat shuttle]

since you can't change salad's installation location

[naive lava]

eh

[upbeat shuttle]

I would include it in my troubleshooting guide, but it's in the grey area of being allowed, since it is modifying salad's files

[naive lava]

librespeed sux already, so who cares

[zinc pollen]

Some ppl keep different drive letters

[upbeat shuttle]

who uses a letter other than C for their boot drive?

find me one person

[naive lava]

fr

[upbeat shuttle]

and I'll find you a million others that stick to C

[glossy pasture]

me when dualbooting os

[naive lava]

lmao

[naive lava]

💀

[upbeat shuttle]

The drive you use will still locally be C unless if you've changed it

[green lantern]

@naive lava which server are you using?

id

[naive lava]

for me, the best server was amsterdam, netherlands

[upbeat shuttle]

and you'd be stupid to change it, since there are definitely poorly coded applications out there that are hard coded to use the C drive

[naive lava]

and rn, as im testing all of the servers, i still find amsterdam to be the best one

also id is 51

[naive lava]

but that doesn't still cross 10 mbps

[naive lava]

ooof

[civic fern]

i mean... you are modifying the server connection by making it static rather than based on ping

[green lantern]

ty

[civic fern]

that should be a thing by default if u ask me

[naive lava]

no they scare cuz u gonna boom their file

[naive lava]

np

[zinc pollen]

Yea I use C too

[naive lava]

sem

[upbeat shuttle]

There are many things that should be standard with salad

like being able to disable mining workloads

or an easy button to re-run the speed test

[civic fern]

like the auto-start removal

[glossy pasture]

btw, is it normal for sgs gateway to use bw? 🤔

[upbeat shuttle]

that too

[civic fern]

why isn't this a thing yet?

[upbeat shuttle]

auto start is miserable

[naive lava]

and no bs trust score

[zinc pollen]

This.

[civic fern]

the funny thing is that it was a thing before

[naive lava]

remove tht beach

[civic fern]

but now it isn't?

[naive lava]

exactly

[upbeat shuttle]

because apparently every single dev is busy on something else that they can't/won't talk about

[civic fern]

this won't age well...

[naive lava]

they said "they're gonna be adding more ways to customize it".......

im still waiting

[upbeat shuttle]

i hope that it doesn't age well

[naive lava]

on what? Things like target rewards? 💀

[civic fern]

they entirely removed cpu mining workloads though

[upbeat shuttle]

i hope that they actually release useful features rather than pointless gimmicks

[civic fern]

i... guess that's a W? half a W?

[naive lava]

yeh they did

[upbeat shuttle]

barely a W

[naive lava]

i have no issues with that tho

[upbeat shuttle]

they removed it because it was taking up too much of their time for how little it earned them

[naive lava]

yeh

[naive lava]

fr

[upbeat shuttle]

they care more about their revenue/time than people being able to earn more than 0

[naive lava]

[zinc pollen]

Since amd igpus are useless, the only options I have are cpu and bw

[civic fern]

but don't our gains directly impact THEIR gains?

sorry- but how does that work?

[naive lava]

same, but the thing is cpu containers are hella rare rn, and fk bw bro, librespeed be rickrolling me

[civic fern]

still no sgs-client yet

[upbeat shuttle]

CPU mining was the lowest earner so they cut it i guess

[civic fern]

but gpu mining is really not that good anymore

[naive lava]

wait so it wasn't because we were earning low, but it was because they were not satisfied with how much it was making them and thus removed it?

[upbeat shuttle]

yep

[civic fern]

since ethereum's... Proof of work?

was that it?

[upbeat shuttle]

basically

[naive lava]

what the actual

[upbeat shuttle]

I can check on the text wall they sent us to double check

[naive lava]

mhm

[civic fern]

huh

every corporation be like i guess

are there people who gpu mine anymore though?

i mean, if i see my gpu running the nvidia miner i just turn the gpu enable option off

[naive lava]

they do

a 4090 earns like 60 cents/day

[shrewd terrace]

Day 5 requesting salad to introdue bandwidth sharing in Romania(1 gbps ethernet).

[naive lava]

but many do seek for ways to disable gpu mining

[civic fern]

that's basically nothing

[naive lava]

since not all have a 4090

[civic fern]

i'm biased cuz i recall when a 1060 6GB was able to get 3$ a day by mining

but still, 60 cents a day for a 4090 is laughable

[naive lava]

ur requests mean nothing, all u can do is wait and pray

[civic fern]

+1

[upbeat shuttle]

'it earned less than what entry-level GPUs earned'
'energy costs made it unprofitable' YET THEY RUN A $1 A DAY JOB THAT MAXES OUT 3090'S AND 4090'S OH GOD THE HYPOCRISY
'people running CPU mining typically required more support' (no they didn't) 'and didn't stick around with salad for long'
'people disabled CPU sharing because they had to mine while waiting for CPU jobs' MAYBE GIVE US AN OPTION TO DISABLE MINING WORKLOADS THEN????
'when we explored introducing mining-specific controls, it led to even more confusion for new chefs' WHEN??

[zinc pollen]

[civic fern]

'when we explored introducing mining-specific controls, it led to even more confusion for new chefs' WHAAAAAAT

WHEN WAS IT

[shrewd terrace]

lol

[upbeat shuttle]

keep searching guys, we still haven't found WHEN THEY ASKED

[civic fern]

i have existed for 3 years in this server, and i don't recall them ever doing anything like that

[upbeat shuttle]

anyways I've given up on pursuing this with them

[naive lava]

tf

[civic fern]

yeah, it won't bring you anywhere

:c

i appreciate to know that at least someone else is as confused as i am

[zinc pollen]

U r not the only one

[civic fern]

if it wasn't for stuff like bandwidth sharing (which works 1/8th of the time), i most probably would've quit already

i only run cpu containers at this point

...and bw when it works

[upbeat shuttle]

same

the $1 a day 3090 job was a pretty big slap in the face

among all the other things

[civic fern]

i don't recall that, mostly because i have my 3060 so...

[naive lava]

uh now i don't even feel like testing the servers

[civic fern]

bw sharing is the most tame thing you could run

doesn't use lots of computer resources, just network... if it works properly :3

[naive lava]

from the 12 servers i tested till now, 4 are broken and the rest don't even cross 10 mbps

and always have >150 ms ping

[civic fern]

also yeah- can we talk about the default C drive?

[upbeat shuttle]

happiest librespeed user

[civic fern]

like- why?

[upbeat shuttle]

?

[civic fern]

why is it by default and you can't change that in any way?

[upbeat shuttle]

a and b were for floppy drives and whatever

c was for hard drives

[civic fern]

for salad's installation*

my bad

didn't specify

[upbeat shuttle]

because that'd require dev work to remove the hard coding to refer to the C drive

anything that requires any dev work is apparently too much to ask from them

[civic fern]

jeebus christ

and i don't think that salad bandwidth sharing can run in a vm right?

[naive lava]

should i continue? This is highest till now

[naive lava]

nope

[upbeat shuttle]

it indeed cannot

[naive lava]

should i?

[civic fern]

idrk

[naive lava]

ykw fk it

[upbeat shuttle]

https://github.com/librespeed/speedtest-cli#use-a-custom-backend-server-list interesting thing for anyone that's bored / out of servers

no idea how it works but it looks like it's possible to use speed test servers other than the ones they list

maybe even ookla's actually functional servers

[shrewd terrace]

im now doing bw sharing on 40-50 mbps

what would be the estimated earnings

[frosty brook]

@naive lava what is your isp?

[naive lava]

North East Data Network ig

[glossy pasture]

is the speed symmetrical?

[naive lava]

wdum

[glossy pasture]

same download and upload speed

[naive lava]

yes kinda

[glossy pasture]

nice triple 8

[naive lava]

yes

[jovial fiber]

can someone tell me what is the name of the sgs folder in workloads folder ?

[modern panther]

is called sgs

[jovial fiber]

the exact name

[modern panther]

i mean it has sgs in it

ok it has bandwidth-sgs in it

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[modern panther]

i can't give you a fucking exact name okay

[jovial fiber]

don't worry i found it

[jovial fiber]

bruh

calm down

[waxen pollen]

The rudeness wasn't called for there dude. You may want to check yourself before you reck yourself, or the mods can reck you if you choose that option too. 😂

[naive lava]

eh

they will do nothing to him

[neon blade]

you should take his words lightly, he tries to troll and be rude but he will help you

[pulsar arrow]

ong we love @onyx lava

shit

wrong

guy

[naive lava]

BandWidth-SGS-(Your country)

[pulsar arrow]

@modern panther

[naive lava]

wat

[waxen pollen]

thats no excuse to accept rudeness.

[neon blade]

one example is bandwidth-sgs-in

[naive lava]

yeup

[neon blade]

i know, he has received verbal warns and some mutes

if he continues to be rude you can inform the mods

[naive lava]

well uh, if he does it excessively then that's bad

[naive lava]

and this

[frosty brook]

hmm

[shrewd terrace]

cs’ favourite sticker:

[naive lava]

agreed

[onyx lava]

I love you too babe

[gleaming shell]

just liek everyone else
[Bandwidth-SGS-whatever the hell country youre in]

[in caps]

[without typos]

[i forgor]

[white knot]

arabia: ah shit here we go again

pov: arabia when u created artificial sun

[civic fern]

hello

[gleaming shell]

'

hi

[civic fern]

i've let the "new" bandwidth thing run but...

looking at the logs, i see a repeating pattern of a failed connection

2023-06-19 06:22:13.785 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"info","ts":1687148533.7855217,"caller":"logger/timed-logger.go:235","msg":"timed stats","BidirThroughput":0,"ErrorRate":0,"TTFB":0,"NGPCsQZ":0,"NGPCsConnected":0,"NRoutes":0,"NNodesWithRoutes":0,"NRoutesLeastLoad":0,"NRoutesGreatestLoaded":0,"NGracePeriodReconns":0,"NHappyPathDisconns":0,"NErrorPathDisconns":0}
2023-06-19 06:22:17.162 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"error","ts":1687148537.1623917,"caller":"ingress/api-client.go:141","msg":"Cannot connect: dial tcp 212.102.54.49:443: connectex: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.","stacktrace":"github.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGSServer\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:141\ngithub.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGS\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:497\nmain.main\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/cmd/sgs-client/main.go:47\nruntime.main\n\tC:/Program Files/Go/src/runtime/proc.go:250"}

[gleaming shell]

rip

[civic fern]

i am getting 1 cent every 15 minutes but it's because sgs is "passive"

i am doing no work whatsoever

[gleaming shell]

aggressive sgs when

[civic fern]

when it works 😳

[gleaming shell]

never make sgs angry

[gleaming shell]

in a bad way

it WILL leave you

[civic fern]

took me around an entire day before it actually tried to start

so yeah

i know

[gleaming shell]

are you in the uk

wait nvm

[civic fern]

.

[gleaming shell]

yeah i forgor lol

it

[civic fern]

lol

like, i don't think the problem is on my side

there's not much i can do about it

[opal galleon]

I love how many times my main is being pinged

[civic fern]

alt account?

[opal galleon]

Also the server trick doesn't work for most people

It's all luck based

[opal galleon]

i been termed

[civic fern]

oooh-

[opal galleon]

ye

[civic fern]

although, yeah, that was a godsent

it actually worked for me

[opal galleon]

I'm 14 though discord thinks otherwise

[opal galleon]

oh woow

nice

[civic fern]

yeee, thanks man

[opal galleon]

there's some stupid issue with my isp

so I can't get ndm logs properly, neither sgs

[opal galleon]

Np

[civic fern]

oh

well, that's a problem

[opal galleon]

yup, even reported to the salad email thing but they have ghosted me for like a month now

[civic fern]

i was wondering at this point if i am able to disable t-rex by modifying the .yaml files, but i don't think there's anything i can do there

[civic fern]

happens a lot, sadly

[opal galleon]

you could whitelist every folder but the one that contains trex

[civic fern]

(for gpu mining, i want containers without mining damnit)

[civic fern]

hmmmmm

[opal galleon]

In ur antivirus

That's what most people did

[civic fern]

but doesn't that get me in a loop of re-installing the t-rex miner?

[opal galleon]

nah, I don't think so

You should try it

[civic fern]

i'm trying, it just keeps either restarting or re-installing the miner

windows tells me that is a "potentially unwanted" software

but doesn't act right away

i have to issue the command

STOP IT

[uncut bluff]

I expected that to happen if you block a miner

[civic fern]

ok but GOD DAMNIT SALAD

GET THE HINT

sry caps but this shit is frustrating

[uncut bluff]

Please salad just add a damn disable miner button

[civic fern]

too much work

how can you develop a software that is specifically made for hardware sharing, and NOT allow users to choose HOW they want to share it?

[modern panther]

no

[green lantern]

have any of you people living in india started earning with bw sharing?

[modern panther]

what's india

[neon blade]

its a city in new york

[neon blade]

a lot of people actually

[green lantern]

yes inside the country of mumbai

very famous

[green lantern]

really?
i have not earned a single penny

[neon blade]

new york*

[neon blade]

same, i guess they are lucky

i was earning a lot 2 months ago with bandwidth

[green lantern]

i haven't earnt a single thing with cpu containers or bw in the past month

its been on everyday

what is your ping

[neon blade]

150ms

[neon blade]

so true!!!

[green lantern]

mine is 146

what is the default server?

i changed it to 51

[green lantern]

have you changed your librespeed one?

[neon blade]

no

[green lantern]

then can you please tell me the id from ndm?

[neon blade]

id?

what id

[civic fern]

id for a specific server ig

to change in the .yaml file

[neon blade]

oh wait i will give u the full list

[green lantern]

C:\ProgramData\Salad\workload-definitions

[neon blade]

?

[green lantern]

in that there is ndm.yaml file

[neon blade]

yeah

[green lantern]

there will be args ipv4 and id

can you send that id

[neon blade]

yeah

i dont have a id

because i dont manually select servers

[green lantern]

can you send an ss?

[neon blade]

no

[green lantern]

why

ahh ok ty

[civic fern]

wait wait

[green lantern]

yo wait where were the dashes

one last t ime

@neon blade

please

[civic fern]

imma re-forward this

can we get a mod to pin this message?

[green lantern]

ok thanks

[neon blade]

why did u need it?

answer me

[civic fern]

No

[modern panther]

No

[green lantern]

so that i could change mine back to how it was before

[neon blade]

i see

[green lantern]

Yeah! No i will not tell you

[green lantern]

i will not tell you

[green lantern]

already changed it

ping increased

imma restart my laptop

[dim wren]

ah yes inside the continent of delhi

*New Delhi

[green lantern]

yooo

51 ping

64 download

54 upload

not bad considering the server location

@neon blade try restarting and disabling all startup apps before that

it is really good

[civic fern]

hmm

should this be good in order to disable the miner without salad trying to download another one?

just so i can let the gpu be available in order to maybe obtain a gpu container

[neon blade]

i dont understand

[civic fern]

this is not bw sharing but we had a small convo before

[neon blade]

what do u mean by order

[civic fern]

wh-

[neon blade]

yes you should be able to obtain gpu containers with gpu miner blocked

if thats what you are asking

[civic fern]

yeah

what's wrong with the "in order to"?

[neon blade]

it just makes harder to understand

you could have said "can i get gpu containers with miner disabled"

[civic fern]

huh... you're right lol

it is easy to make stuff hard to understand

mb

[neon blade]

and btw i dont recommend this channel for purpose other than bandwidth

[civic fern]

ur right, but i had a small convo about disabling stuff before

this was just a smol follow-up

soreh

[neon blade]

its fine

[upbeat shuttle]

can't because it's in the grey area of being allowed, as it is modifying Salad's files, and if I officially endorse it that much then ericka or someone else might get mad

[civic fern]

Oooooooooh

Yeah, that makes sense

[tardy swan]

Stinky bandwidth sharing

[civic fern]

veri stinki

[hollow vortex]

It's open source , salad didn't create it. So how does salad own the code 🤔

[upbeat shuttle]

?

I'm on about the ndm.yaml file

which is made by salad

I know librespeed is open source

[hollow vortex]

Anyway salad dead af.

[upbeat shuttle]

-.-

[hollow vortex]

So I spent my day yesterday trying to figure out how to get an overflow , error to go away on a JavaScript graph 😭 no luck

[civic fern]

kinda fair... but .yaml files are specifically made to be more "humanly readable"

but i understand the problem

[hollow vortex]

Problem is salad don't care to change it. Either they're being cheap or just don't give a shit.

[tardy swan]

What’s with your toxicity

[hollow vortex]

No one's speaking to you.

[civic fern]

that literally confirms what he said lol

also, sorry @upbeat shuttle, do you know anything about this error on the beta sgs logs?

2023-06-19 06:22:13.785 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"info","ts":1687148533.7855217,"caller":"logger/timed-logger.go:235","msg":"timed stats","BidirThroughput":0,"ErrorRate":0,"TTFB":0,"NGPCsQZ":0,"NGPCsConnected":0,"NRoutes":0,"NNodesWithRoutes":0,"NRoutesLeastLoad":0,"NRoutesGreatestLoaded":0,"NGracePeriodReconns":0,"NHappyPathDisconns":0,"NErrorPathDisconns":0}
2023-06-19 06:22:17.162 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"error","ts":1687148537.1623917,"caller":"ingress/api-client.go:141","msg":"Cannot connect: dial tcp 212.102.54.49:443: connectex: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.","stacktrace":"github.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGSServer\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:141\ngithub.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGS\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:497\nmain.main\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/cmd/sgs-client/main.go:47\nruntime.main\n\tC:/Program Files/Go/src/runtime/proc.go:250"}

failed connection attempt, but it shouldn't be from my side (hopefully)

[upbeat shuttle]

mmm I have no idea

[civic fern]

also why is the github link reported in the error O.o

[hollow vortex]

It's a hiccup

[neon blade]

how can i make my ping less in ndm folders

[upbeat shuttle]

are you using ethernet or wifi?

[hollow vortex]

Make sure no one is using your internet at the time your running the test. And use Ethernet .

[neon blade]

ethernet

i hate librespeed

anyways

[upbeat shuttle]

hm

it's probably on librespeed' servers' end then

[neon blade]

my ping is high and thats the cause of my no earnings

159ms

[green lantern]

@upbeat shuttle salad wont work on atlasos?

[upbeat shuttle]

no idea

[neon blade]

huh it seems my ping is high on nuremberg servers

even in speedtest.net

[green lantern]

how high

[upbeat shuttle]

stripped down versions of Windows could be missing things that are required for container workloads, or Salad itself

[green lantern]

thats speedest

[green lantern]

uhhh good point
wsl might be disabled

imma have to check

alsoooo bw sharing is better if you use ethernet?

[neon blade]

thats the point

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah basically

[green lantern]

and it is like tough to get 2 container jobs but what about bw sharing jobs?

[green lantern]

imma connect my second atlas laptop to that

wait ozua one last thing

in atlasos when i ran salad my laptop immediately crashed with gpuz error

what should i do

if i turn it on it crashes

imma need to go into safe mode to fix it

but then if i install salad same problem

so what should i do

is gpuz needed for bw sharing?

[upbeat shuttle]

it's probably a good idea to have GPUz working

[green lantern]

ugh so imma just need to do trial and error

[civic fern]

yeah

[green lantern]

k

[civic fern]

Pro tip: if you can't have pure ethernet connection because you might be far away from your modem/router, i can suggest to buy 2 powerline adapters

[green lantern]

wait

[civic fern]

which is what i use and (luckily) it is way better than what wifi had to offer

[green lantern]

nvm

[pulsar arrow]

do you not lose your speed or get some sort of interference when you turn on something power intensive like a microwave

[upbeat shuttle]

I'd sure hope that those microwaves stay inside of the microwave

[tardy swan]

librestink

[modern panther]

librestinky

[civic fern]

nope

[hollow vortex]

appliances can introduce noise and electrical interference on the power lines, which can impact the performance of power line adapters

[civic fern]

...once again, nope, didn't notice any kind of loss during these moments

[hollow vortex]

Also, I would Avoid plugging the adapters and appliances into the same electrical circuit if possible.

[hollow vortex]

Run a program , for packet loss .

[safe loom]

based

did you know that some radiation leaks from the windows of the microwave

and that it fries your brain when you lstare at it

i learned that from my braindead teammates that stare at it daily

[lime sky]

thats false because the waves in them are micro which dosnt damange ur brain and the name microwave is bacause of the microwave inside getit

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-ok-he-pull-up-capybaras-car-meme-gif-25675731

[jovial fiber]

yay now waiting for sgs to appear

[calm viper]

Libre speed fix when

[jovial fiber]

never lol

[calm viper]

Fr

[opal galleon]

@green lantern bro what's ur isp

[safe loom]

broken or old microwaves leak non ionised radiation

[hollow vortex]

Won't cause brain damage . Smh

[shadow ivy]

is 10$ every day normal

or am i hacker

[neon blade]

thats above normal

[shadow ivy]

how good

like what is normal

[neon blade]

4 dollars a day?

[shadow ivy]

ok

how do i get lower earnings

[upbeat shuttle]

$4 isn't even normal

[neon blade]

its the avg earning of the bandwidth users

so i took 4 dollars as avg

[upbeat shuttle]

no

[green lantern]

jio

[upbeat shuttle]

that's the UK

not everyone is in the UK lol

[neon blade]

@shadow ivy you live in the uk right?

i heard that u do

or am i wrong

[opal galleon]

dude can you come dms please

[upbeat shuttle]

I assume they do, but they still didn't ask if that's normal in the UK

[opal galleon]

I need ur help

[green lantern]

it matters

[neon blade]

hmm

then what would you say the avg is?

1 dollar perhaps?

[opal galleon]

what matters? Please just check dms

[neon blade]

invite me to the gc too

im also a jio user

[opal galleon]

I'll dm you after

[neon blade]

hm i see everyone getting more than a dollar in #show-off-your-earnings except some users

i will take a dollar as an avg

@shadow ivy you are getting 10x the avg seen in #show-off-your-earnings

[shadow ivy]

cool

im ricH

[hollow vortex]

Not every UK user posts there earnings. So your average would be a guess .

[neon blade]

true

[shell temple]

Average in UK is prob about 5 dollars if u have half decent internet

[pulsar arrow]

ok

44tb

[jovial fiber]

YEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[modern panther]

wwhat

[jovial fiber]

i finally got sgs and it's running

[modern panther]

what if i ddos you

[jovial fiber]

try 😏 you'll see

[modern panther]

why the 😏

[jovial fiber]

honestly idk lol

so satisfying

[civic fern]

ggs

[civic fern]

how do you graph the usage of a software with that?

[pulsar arrow]

glasswire

[civic fern]

i know that is glasswire, thanks

i'm asking how

[pulsar arrow]

yes

you can uh

click on a menu

[civic fern]

also sorreh, that felt rude

[pulsar arrow]

on the left or something

[civic fern]

mb

[pulsar arrow]

it's ok

you can select individual apps on the graph itself

don't remember where exactly

[civic fern]

that left column is bothering me

[pulsar arrow]

obliterate the part of your monitor where it is

[civic fern]

:D

[jovial fiber]

wow gg

i lost my job 😦

[civic fern]

that's my entire history of Glasswire tho

not daily lol

this is today

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[civic fern]

it happens :3

also bw sharing in italy is fairly limited

it's pretty hard to get anything as for now

like, this is today's activity as for now

even spotify has more usage, and i haven't listened to any song yet

[green lantern]

@neon blade guess what! i was going to earn 1.2$ in 24 hours but overnight at the 11th hour my salad randomly paused while i was sleeping idk why

so i got only half of that aka 66 cents

and now i aint getting any more money

[neon blade]

sad, it paused for me a few months ago too

[green lantern]

this problem is so old

i have had it so many times and so many other people have too

[long relic]

Does anyone know if the gtx 650ti is compatible with salad?

[neon blade]

not it is not

its too old and weak

[long relic]

[neon blade]

im sorry,

tho your cpu might be supported

what is your cpu?

[long relic]

Amd Athlon 2core

[neon blade]

lemme match the specs real quick

[upbeat shuttle]

oof that's also quite weak and old

[neon blade]

does it support svm?

i guess it doesnt

[neon blade]

what model of athlon?

it seems that there are a lot of athlon's released

[long relic]

Idk all I know is that it's a 2 core clocked at 3000mhs

[neon blade]

open task manager>performance>cpu and send a screenshot

[neon blade]

it seems it does have virtualization but i dont think salad will detect it

you can still give it a try

and see if salad detects it

[upbeat shuttle]

Salad will probably detect it

it's more an issue of if they'll get any CPU container jobs at all

[neon blade]

thats true

[neon blade]

hm

you have bandwidth sharing

[gleaming shell]

Salad kinda hates old cpus
my 2008 pentium supports virtualization but salad dosent detect it

[neon blade]

i recommend disabling gpu and keeping only cpu and bandwidth on

[long relic]

Ok

[neon blade]

disable gpu by click resource preferences

[civic fern]

right... my laptop can't seem to get a container for cpu anymore

[gleaming shell]

It is kinda expected tho

As Noone wants a pentium e5300 and it's from 2008

2 cores 2.6ghz

[civic fern]

fair...

[gleaming shell]

At the same time the e5300 struggles to even run windows lol

[civic fern]

my laptop has a 2 cores 4 threads 2.3 ghz processor

:c

[gleaming shell]

Whar cpu

[civic fern]

Intel i3-6100U

[jovial fiber]

lol we had one last year but we give it to our grandpa ,-,

[pulsar arrow]

Grandpa gaming

[tardy swan]

Real

[civic fern]

wholesome

also fuck gpus, we go on wtih shared bandwidth now

(when it works)

[jovial fiber]

that's 100% better

i earned 0.2$ today with bandwich that's 1% of my lifetime earning lol

[pulsar arrow]

bandwich

[civic fern]

I was trying to start a gpu container, no success yet

Been waiting since this morning

Also, sgs has... Passive earnings?

I get 0.007$/15 minutes with nothing actually being shared

[pulsar arrow]

yes

Salad prob wants to keep the nodes from leaving due to insufficient nodes

insufficient jobs*

[civic fern]

Oh

Well, better for me ig

Especially since here there aren't a lot of jobs available

[jovial fiber]

i was wondering too

that's nice

[neon blade]

looks like a lower paying job to me

[weak river]

nope, they dropped testing earnings in India

and those who had job they lost it, and now they are also getting same amount

[neon blade]

i see

[weak river]

I think bw is ready for full release in India

[neon blade]

mmm

[shadow ivy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/949770235542634546/1108833957988016259/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

[leaden delta]

so new to this bandwidth sharing thing where is there traffic? Seems like I have none here in Denmark

[shell temple]

it depends on job availability

if there is no jobs, u wont get one

if nobody is requesting a bw job from salad then there is no bw to be shared

[leaden delta]

oh damm okay, but is anyone getting more jobs then somewhere else?

[pulsar arrow]

Britain is a hotspot for good jobs

you aren't able to switch regions without having an internet connection in the region, and no vpns won't work.

[tardy swan]

Britain is a hotspot for stabbings

[little saffron]

daum

[shrewd terrace]

No sgs

1month

No container

[gleaming shell]

damn

pain

[safe loom]

😱

[shadow scaffold]

buy salad sgs and use it for salad

[gleaming shell]

but salad and use it for salad

[woven sage]

umm my base went from .006 to .003

anyone know what the problem might be

[jovial fiber]

you just lost your job

be happy at least you have still one

[modern panther]

so ungrateful

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[woven sage]

i used to get .006 without a job

and now it just went to .003

[jovial fiber]

that's fluctuating

you can't really do anything

[civic fern]

yeah... disappointment

C

:c

[woven sage]

also how much does having ethernet over wifi affect the earnings

[upbeat shuttle]

a hard wired connection is always much more stable and often much faster than a wireless connection

[opal galleon]

They dropped test earnings for India, that's why it's lowered

[woven sage]

but how much does that affect the earnings

[naive lava]

the earnings go

[upbeat shuttle]

more speed = more data throughput = more earnings

[pulsar arrow]

I'm surprised my bw is still pegged at max on a Wednesday

[civic fern]

Lucky you, i'm begging for any workload rn lol

[green lantern]

same

i got one and would have gotten 1.2$ in 24 hours

but randomly at mid night it paused itself

haven't earned since

[pulsar arrow]

777gbs already

it was on max usage at night too

new potential customer perhaps

nope glasswire shows multiple akamai technologies clients with like 30+GBS of usage each and Aws(s) with like 1-2gbs

[hollow vortex]

Still waiting for parrell connections for the US cause the bw sucks .

[jovial fiber]

how much speed is used by the jobs on average ?

[pulsar arrow]

as much as it can

there is no limit

technically

the max speed comes down to your upload/download, whichever ones lower than the other

for example if your up is 75mbit and your down is 500-800 whatever, it'll use at most, 150-180mbit/s

in total

it depends on the job of course but that's the max, can't really tell the 'average' in this type of workload

[jovial fiber]

i was wondering because last job used barely 2mo/s

[pulsar arrow]

45tb

did record 1.2tb today damn

still going on so I guess it'll do one or two hundred more by midnight

[subtle condor]

same

[civic fern]

holy shit

lucky you :D

[modern panther]

scam

[civic fern]

no u

2023-06-22 08:55:58.378 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"error","ts":1687416958.3786504,"caller":"ingress/api-client.go:141","msg":"Cannot connect: dial tcp 212.102.54.49:443: connectex: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.","stacktrace":"github.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGSServer\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:141\ngithub.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGS\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:497\nmain.main\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/cmd/sgs-client/main.go:47\nruntime.main\n\tC:/Program Files/Go/src/runtime/proc.go:250"}
2023-06-22 08:55:59.686 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"info","ts":1687416959.686419,"caller":"logger/timed-logger.go:235","msg":"timed stats","BidirThroughput":0,"ErrorRate":0,"TTFB":0,"NGPCsQZ":0,"NGPCsConnected":0,"NRoutes":0,"NNodesWithRoutes":0,"NRoutesLeastLoad":0,"NRoutesGreatestLoaded":0,"NGracePeriodReconns":0,"NHappyPathDisconns":0,"NErrorPathDisconns":0}```

meanwhile i keep getting this error in the sgs logs

[modern panther]

try restating your comuter

[civic fern]

nope, didn't work

[modern panther]

ok

[civic fern]

I think it's a problem of Bandwidth-SGS-IT-2?

[pulsar arrow]

this is still running damn

never have I predicted that I'd get constant 24/7 earnings at my speeds

had*

[civic fern]

8$ per day

wow

[pulsar arrow]

truly

well I guess they decreased the cost per gb and more customers got on

[civic fern]

mmm, probably

although, it is nothing to scoff at

8$ per day by sharing your connection isn't bad at all

from my pov

[pulsar arrow]

imagine if my isp offered symmetrical speeds

[civic fern]

same...

[pulsar arrow]

I'd be looking at 20-25 USD a day if it was 500/500 instead of 500/75

[civic fern]

well, i have 100mbps in download and 20mbps in upload

so not that great

but still...

why can't it be symmetric? what's the problem?

if it can go down, it should be able to go up aswell right?

[pulsar arrow]

depends on the connection medium

if it's copper I don't think so

[civic fern]

hmm, you make a fair point there

[pulsar arrow]

I've got fiber

[civic fern]

forgot about copper lol

[pulsar arrow]

and it's assymterical

they won't make it symmetrical since it'll affect their business side of broadband

they make huge profits on those

[civic fern]

fair

i've heard of people with symmetrical speeds

lucky ppl

[hollow vortex]

I got symmetrical 🙂

[civic fern]

speeds?

this is gpu container clutching up

[hollow vortex]

600/600

35$ cheap . I can get 1 gig both ways for 55$

[civic fern]

daaaaaaaaamn 😳

[hollow vortex]

Yeppp

Too bad I can't get parrell connections. Cause the BW in US is trash.

[civic fern]

all you need are bandwidth jobs and you're able to repay the monthly fee... in a day-

ah

[hollow vortex]

Yeah lucky to get 20$ a month lol

Average 1.5 TB monthly

[pulsar arrow]

pay per gb is significantly lower in the us compared to the uk

[civic fern]

but still

[pulsar arrow]

ye I get what u mean

[civic fern]

600 up/down is absolutely nuts

[hollow vortex]

But other bw apps US pays the most. Cept salad. Weird.

[pulsar arrow]

probably low demand of geo locked content

[hollow vortex]

Low customers too.

Why they should allow parallel connections

Like MYstirum

[pulsar arrow]

well then that would result in some people with no jobs at all

[hollow vortex]

On there p2p you can have 50 parrell connections

[pulsar arrow]

does it pay well

[hollow vortex]

Much much bigger customer and user base

[pulsar arrow]

like more than a dollar a day

[hollow vortex]

Depends on your connection and location

[pulsar arrow]

hm

[hollow vortex]

It's crypto , you'd have to exchange for $

[civic fern]

oh

[hollow vortex]

I just stake my earnings .

[pulsar arrow]

yeah yikes, salads built for simplicity

[civic fern]

oh non

yeah

i guess that's why lots of people use salad

simplicity

[green lantern]

dang lucky

[jovial fiber]

still nothing...

people in my country have too good speeds ;-;

[little saffron]

uk wow

did die

?

but uk still best ?

[jovial fiber]

i think uk is the best atm

we all need to move to uk

[little saffron]

uk new gateway

???

@upbeat shuttle / @frigid reef

HOLY FUCK ITS DOING TAFFIC MUCH

[jovial fiber]

what

[upbeat shuttle]

man if only salad worked on my new ISP

[little saffron]

yep new gateway

[jovial fiber]

they need to stp with uk

[upbeat shuttle]

it's been months and I haven't made any progress

[little saffron]

write it down boyyys

xd

[little saffron]

i could sell you a ip (:

[upbeat shuttle]

ehh

[pulsar arrow]

a

[little saffron]

hm

why i get the 3rd gateway now

hmm

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[pulsar arrow]

46tb

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[gleaming shell]

2x my lifetime earnings, 1/4 of my xp

My god 8 dollars in 24 hours

I'm making 3 dollars in 30 days going lower

[woven sage]

300/300 sadly

[little saffron]

40 dollar a day 8 devices

[stiff wedge]

bewi shar

[waxen pollen]

Do second devices get lower priority or something?

[little saffron]

yep

[waxen pollen]

Well that's not very nice

would have been nice if they prioritise the one with the higher bandwidth first at least o.O

[little saffron]

just get more ips haha

[waxen pollen]

Not sure how. I have my own and the house broadband.

i guess i could go with another provider for an additional IP

I would do virgin business broadband that come with 10 IPs, 9 on the same subnet. But i don't believe that works.

[pulsar arrow]

Yeah because of the business IP addresses

[civic fern]

Hi

[weak river]

what is the purpose of this ipinfo? I got this multiple times since yesterday

[modern panther]

for ip info smh

[civic fern]

I mean... Pretty self explanatory

[weak river]

ikt, but I am getting this multiple times

see

is it normal?

[modern panther]

what do you think

[gleaming shell]

yeah

[weak river]

I think no, because I was not getting this before, and none of Indian chefs are getting this

[gleaming shell]

are you earning?

if you are it could be a more stable job i guess

not sure tho

[weak river]

yes, static/testing earning

[gleaming shell]

should be fine

[civic fern]

That should be good actually

Give it a lil bit for payout

[merry raft]

I AM NOT GETTING SGS SINCE 2 MONTHS 😭

[gleaming shell]

rip

[weak river]

okay

[merry raft]

HELPPP

MEEEE

[gleaming shell]

the no sgs insanity

[merry raft]

IF I WAS GETTING I CAN GET 5 DOLLAR +

[civic fern]

Most probably failed speedtest

[merry raft]

YES I GUESS

[gleaming shell]

what do the speeds show in your logs

librespeed is shit so it might choos a bad server or give you bad speeds

[merry raft]

upload speed is very bad but dowload is good

[gleaming shell]

e here

same*

[merry raft]

some my upload speed is 10+

mbs but i can't get sgs

[civic fern]

You are able to change which server to run the test on, maybe that would help

[gleaming shell]

for some reason that isnt working for me lol
its been happening with both of my alptops

laptops*

idk if salad patched it or if its just broken for me

[civic fern]

It did work for me, changed from automatically to Frankfurt

[civic fern]

Did u do it right?

[gleaming shell]

pretty sure i did

[civic fern]

Mmmmmm

[gleaming shell]

did whatever the steps were in the tutorial

it just dosent take the speedtest, and when i undo it it also still dosent take the speedtest and the only way to fix it is to reinstall salad

[civic fern]

Huh...

[gleaming shell]

but then you get the shittiest speedtests known to man

[civic fern]

What the hell-

[olive escarp]

wtf ive just lost all my jobs

past 24 hour $0

[civic fern]

This error...
2023-06-23 09:24:46.709 +02:00 [INF] {"level":"error","ts":1687505086.7088957,"caller":"ingress/api-client.go:141","msg":"Cannot connect: dial tcp 212.102.54.49:443: connectex: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond.","stacktrace":"github.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGSServer\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:141\ngithub.com/SaladTechnologies/sgs/pkg/ingress.ConnectToSGS\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/pkg/ingress/api-client.go:497\nmain.main\n\tC:/Users/ericn/Documents/Projects/salad-gateway-service/go/cmd/sgs-client/main.go:47\nruntime.main\n\tC:/Program Files/Go/src/runtime/proc.go:250"}

well, as long as i keep getting my passive income, it's fine ig

but i wish bw sharing was working fine rn

[pulsar arrow]

im pretty sure my internet is absolutely fine and doesnt just go out every now and then

but sgs just disconnects every few days

[civic fern]

just a little downtime compared to what you manage to share daily

[pulsar arrow]

it takes almost a whole day to get another job

[civic fern]

ah..

well, i've been with that connection error for days

all my gains are passive, even the gpu container

why release something that ain't working

[safe loom]

IT

ITALY ❤️

[safe loom]

have you sent a salad ticket about that?

[safe loom]

oh yeah