miside-mods-discussion

[plain crescent]

It's not a sprite but purely an image

Im sure we already can change them

Just use replace_2D command

[errant bane]

ooooh

[mortal grotto]

Is there a way to get Mita models if we want to use them for mods in other games/apps? Or we do we have to skin her ourselves 😳

[twilit tartan]

https://github.com/AXiX-official/Studio

idk about usage rights tho you'll want to look into that

[brittle sierra]

\

[plain crescent]

Ohhh niceeee but it's conflicted with player

Gonna fix that and push the condition to replace 2DMita on the menu

[swift dove]

yo does anyonew know how to get mods for miside

[plain crescent]

Yes, they're uploaded in nexus, you can find the installation tutorial in pinned message

[swift dove]

okay thanks

[plain crescent]

Oh so that's why it's conflicted

[spare current]

Idk why but I think the mods will go freaky in few days

[plain crescent]

Yo why does my miku flyin

[plain crescent]

Huh, changing the main menu music causing this

What a unique bug

[twilit tartan]

wacky

[plain crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-caine-tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-gif-3444169324217077735

Ain't no sht, changing the main menu music somewhat messes the camera animation.
Gonna find a way to patch this

Man feels like UAL .11.x is specifically made for miku mod because of me

[twilit tartan]

well miku mod has everything you could ever put in a mod

[plain crescent]

Fr

Man look at this, its over 400 lines and i still want to keep going

[soft remnant]

fruits basket was heat

[plain crescent]

||Miku mod is going to have its own original song thanks to sazuko||

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-hatsune-miku-miku-deco27-miku-deco-27-gif-9348149510767155290

[twilit tartan]

🔥

[plain crescent]

Huh, funny the texture still duplicating instead of replacing

[stark badger]

I don’t know have any way replace texture2D or Sprite
I think just replace Image field sprite
Or spriteRenemder field sprite

[plain crescent]

But i saw Rist doing it, am i tripping or something

[stark badger]

[twilit tartan]

https://youtu.be/5C71bqlW4a4

[tight bolt]

uhhhhhhhhhh

am I doin smth wrong????

just followed the guide

[solemn crane]

guys is that because the hair clip has a lot of polygons?

[plain crescent]

it seems like backface culling

Does the face normal is correct?

[solemn crane]

not sure
my friend made this model, but he has also never used blender before

[plain crescent]

Why does it look like that in blender

Are you using some kind of modifier

Solidify maybe?

[solemn crane]

idk what he used... i can ask him when he wakes up
is there a simple way to fix it?

[plain crescent]

Hmmm just check the modifier tab on that mesh

Apply all modifiers except for armature

[solemn crane]

there is only armature modifier

[plain crescent]

Weird

[smoky olive]

I tested only first chapter

[plain crescent]

Ohh rist, feeling better already?

But yeah it doesn't work in any chapter for me

@soft remnant

https://github.com/AXiX-official/Studio

[smoky olive]

I feel better but i slept bad

[plain crescent]

[plain crescent]

Well i noticed that the texture is also patched while we're on the main menu

So when i enter a scene, the game just creates a new one

Need to look deeper for this i guess

[prime whale]

could someone do a nurse mod?

[solemn crane]

if each shoe has 3 vertex groups, should i create the same groups on my custom shoes and weight paint them manually? is it possible to do manually but correctly?

[plain crescent]

Weight transfer would be nice at that point

[soft remnant]

i dont think elden ring models are the best to try and extract

[solemn crane]

am i doing right?

[soft remnant]

this might be doable who knows

https://tenor.com/view/malenia-elden-ring-gif-15668696199053318624

actually looks scary some type of torture method or something

@plain crescent i have a question how have they made the mouth move if there is no shape keys on this model

[plain crescent]

Well not all models use shape key

Some of them use bones and save the motion as 'shape key'

Or maybe you just ripped them wrong

[soft remnant]

is there a way to check whatever you said here

[plain crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-killua-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-anime-gif-19439787

[soft remnant]

this is absurd

i cant see shi

[plain crescent]

You can hide the bones while moving it tho

Turn off this button

[soft remnant]

the more you know

[plain crescent]

@smoky olive Finally, turns out we're just registering the first texture2D, somehow the game created a new texture instance, so.. just take the new one to the dictionary

[solemn crane]

well i guess no

[plain crescent]

I think i have sent a weight transfer tutorial to this channel , lemme find them

[soft remnant]

here

as i said a made my own notes to porting the models so this video is in it

[plain crescent]

@solemn crane

[plain crescent]

Damnn GG's

[solemn crane]

arigatougozaimasu

[soft remnant]

your welcome

[plain crescent]

hehehehe with this, i can finally finish the mod

Just need to replace the rest of the texture

[soft remnant]

at this point by you releasing this mod your gonna change how mods are created in this game by alot

your releasing the templates of everything

so more people are just gonna do it

your the adam here

father of creation

[plain crescent]

Nahh, rist is the true god. Im just his prophet, fixing bugs and stuff

[soft remnant]

both of you a deitys

ahh now i see what these bones were the phase 2 attack

https://tenor.com/view/malenia-blade-of-miquella-rot-gif-2565306858270158461

[harsh ridge]

YES! Awesome stuff, I'm so stoked for the release

[soft remnant]

yeah phase 2 locked in

WAIT I FORGOT THE WING

this weight painting cant have been done by hand

its to perfect and its the same for all of the flower pedals

[plain crescent]

Well hello miku

[soft remnant]

yeah this is gonna be game changing brother

[plain crescent]

Well you can change the entire house by this

Not just pictures

I wonder what kind of unique mods will use this

[harsh ridge]

I've brewed so many ideas for re-texturing. To see it'll finally be possible in-game is surreal. At least without having to patch files.

[soft remnant]

@plain crescent i figured it out they did it a bit different instead of using shape keys they actually used bones to move the mouth

[plain crescent]

That's exactly what I'm saying

Dayumm the whole MV is basically mila picture

[soft remnant]

i didnt understand when u said it mb

[stark badger]

how do yo do that
UAL? or photo edit

[soft remnant]

photo edit looks like just texture

unless im fckn dumb

[plain crescent]

I'm using gimp to edit the texture, then i use UAL to replace the game texture with that one

[soft remnant]

im so fckn dumb bro

im not saying anything again

[stark badger]

Head Surgery

[plain crescent]

[stark badger]

[stark badger]

[plain crescent]

My friend M.K told me to download project sekai

[glossy wren]

i should put raging wolf armorset as mc just to go along with this lol

[hearty zodiac]

This is my favorite chat in the whole discord server.

[stark badger]

UAL

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177852959820890224/1184984343978975262/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif

[soft remnant]

@plain crescent is the mod out?????????????

[plain crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-no-nope-no-way-nuh-uh-gif-3745354090474979607

I'm still need to remake some of the texture

omw

[misty hound]

I've literally delayed buying the game until this mod released

Big fan of Miku (My wife)

[plain crescent]

Bet, this mod is darn replacing every mita aspect

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-washing-machine-gif-4863029126409914383

[plain crescent]

Do you know any lore related to mikudayo to put in chibi mita description?

[misty hound]

Just put that she's homicidal or something

[plain crescent]

I want to put the disappearance of Hatsune Miku lore for ghost mita, because back then miku really disappeared, she gone from the internet

[misty hound]

On the run from the authorities perhaps

[plain crescent]

But idk for the rest

Oh how abt that sushi mikudayo video

https://tenor.com/view/mikudayo-gif-21765192

She never gets to eat any sushi and now she's mad in the game

[misty hound]

I think for Mikudayo anything works as long as it's her being a danger to society

[plain crescent]

What? Don't tell me you're a miku fan now?

[soft remnant]

nah teto i like more

[plain crescent]

Truee i originally wanted to port tetoo

But she's lacking clothes

https://tenor.com/view/teto-pearto-kasane-teto-kasane-pearto-pear-gif-11680387938503628261

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-eater-anime-smile-evil-gif-11383363

still my main simp is for malenia

and im about to sink 80+ hours into beating unalloyed malenia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsMBxuGD2fs

im so fcked

[soft remnant]

all of these are just for facial expressions do you have any clue why they would have done it this way instead of shape keys? @plain crescent

[plain crescent]

I believe they use something like this

Since regular shape keys are not flexible enough and they can be conflicted to each other

[soft remnant]

i see

they really put a lot of work into elden ring man

its to beautiful

[stark badger]

Maybe you can replace cursor miku

[soft remnant]

NO WAY BRO

bro is mikuifying the game

[plain crescent]

Yup i will

[soft remnant]

bro i dont even remember where those cursors are used

ahh you can add custom lighting that is indeed cool

[plain crescent]

They are used in the main menu bro

[thin basalt]

@quasi creek @lost bridge Добрый день, у меня возник вопрос. А если я хочу создать свой мод, и добавить туда оригинальную озвучку (актеров озвучки из орг игры) то это вообще можно сделать? Или вы заключили какие-либо контракты на этот счет, (авторские права и тд.)

[plain crescent]

Welp her electronic still glowing which make her looks cool

[soft remnant]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

its been a while mb

[lost bridge]

просто мод? наверное ок

[thin basalt]

Глобальный мод, нацеленный на сюжет и игровой процесс (а не переозвучка орг или скин) . Ну размер серьезный, но не больше оригинальной мисайд.

[smoky olive]

https://tenor.com/view/rezero-natsukisubaru-subaru-returnbydeath-gif-19396459

[plain crescent]

Phase 2, audioclip replacement

[smoky olive]

We have an example fron main menu

[plain crescent]

Yup im using that

Combined with your always looping sprite replacement

💀

Tbh i kinda hate the looping process, but this is the only way i think

[smoky olive]

You're right it should be looped only for Novel chapter, remove the success variable i guess

[plain crescent]

Well for my audio replacement, the loop is ended when the object is dissapeard

Maybe we can do the same for sprite

But this gonna kill super low end pc for sure

can't wait to see ppl complaining my mod

[smoky olive]

I expect you audioclips loading will take about 5 minutes

[plain crescent]

well im using loaded audio so its only load in the boot process

The rest are just CPU consuming

[smoky olive]

Crab_rave.ogg is a bad example because it is full uncut version

I guess 10 seconds long audioclip will take about 300-500ms

[plain crescent]

Welp

[smoky olive]

Btw we should add some license to our repo on github

So that people won't have any problems with laws

In theory at least

[plain crescent]

Totally agree, but which lisence should we use?

[smoky olive]

[plain crescent]

ohh this one seems nice

[smoky olive]

Oh so Texture2D.LoadImage works without forcing

And you're right about restoremeshbackupcoroutine it has no sense since we have synchronious menu

[plain crescent]

But it still has some anomalies

Sometimes the backup works but sometimes it's not

Sometimes skinned appendix doesn't get deleted

I'm not sure whyyy

[plain crescent]

Nah tbh i think it should loop anywhere, just make sure the sprite really there active in the scrne, so it's not looping for emptyness

Since sprite is used for animated texture

wait maybe we can use sprite to support animated texture on skinned renderer

I wan't to port her hair if we support animated texture

[pulsar whale]

me when UVScroll

[plain crescent]

True it's totally uv scroll lmaoo

[plain crescent]

Man i love UAL

I hope more ppl will love ual once they see what miku mods can do.

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-love-typing-gif-3102556653957850961

[misty hound]

Miside but if it was good

[plain crescent]

This mod is going to have an original miku song for the main menu and that cappie game

Totally original and use miku voicebank

[misty hound]

I added a note on your profile as "Miku Mod Guy" You're doing god's work

[plain crescent]

Thanks to sazuko, a lot, he's a producer, you guys should check his channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8rOEWCJ-vA

[plain crescent]

Hahahahahah wtf

[misty hound]

Sure thing brother

[vale sedge]

How do I try SoSide mod, I dont really understand the download part... Where do I drag the downloaded files?

[placid stump]

modders, create neko arc mita mod, and my life is yours

[stark badger]

Seem have mesh can easy use UAL Maybe

[thin basalt]

Если что-то поменяеться то сообщите.

[unreal light]

respectable people, who can help me draw a skin for a target in Ukrainian, please, even if you are from the USA, you can help me, I just don't know how to draw very well, I will be very glad for your help❤️❤️

уважаемые люди кто может помочь нарисовать скин на миту в укр столе пожалуйста дажи если вы с РУС то сможете мне помочь я просто вопше не умею толком рисовать буду очень рад вашей помоши❤️❤️

[unreal light]

was it possible to pass?

[stark badger]

I just use google search Neco Arc one hours ago
Instgram popup Neco Arc

[vagrant anvil]

difficult to deal with even outside of the game

[stark badger]

Does current need to manual copy paste addons_config?

[twilit tartan]

nope just keep it in the mod's folder

[stark badger]

Thanks

Have problem cause i mix Pre version file and Release version file

[pulsar whale]

pay up..

[stark badger]

sometime it will duplicate

[twilit tartan]

burinyuuu

[stark badger]

[placid stump]

doing gods work my friend, :']

[stark badger]

When Enable it and Restart Game
It will have two GameObject
need to disable it and Restart Game to Fix

i See Bao Don't have this problem
i think i use create_skinned_appendix
Bao only use replace Mesh

[covert shoal]

yo wsp, I'm trying to download mods but something is going wrong, like when I start the game(I alr moved the "Miside Custom Models Loader" files to BeplnEx plugins file) it shows a large red text on cmd. Someone know how to fix it?

[stark badger]

EllenTail Also have problem
i think is code problem

[covert shoal]

oh

any Ideas of how to fix it?

Maybe it's because of 3.1 version of Miside Custom Models Loader

[stark badger]

https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/258?tab=files

[placid stump]

man you are a legend

[stark badger]

I remember someone post a link don’t ask

[stark badger]

https://dontasktoask.com/

Large Red Text

[covert shoal]

bruh

[twilit tartan]

does the mod say to use custom model loader or universal asset loader

[covert shoal]

custom model loader

[stark badger]

That large red text say what

[covert shoal]

I alr tryied to put UnityEngine.TextRenderingModule.dll but it says I need permission

Idk if I doxed my self

[stark badger]

What's your BepinEx Version

if old version try use Bleeding Edge builds

https://builds.bepinex.dev/projects/bepinex_be

[covert shoal]

6.0

I downloaded it from here: https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/57

[plain crescent]

Yes this is the anomalies

Sometimes it's duplicates sometimes it's not

I need to investigate further

[granite spade]

hi guys, I wanted to know if there is a way to enable the christmas theme. when I searched on the internet people were talking about how to disable it by changing the system date. do I have to download an older version or change a game file, or is changing the date the only way to do it? thanks in advance

[prime whale]

could someone do a nurse outfit?

[plain crescent]

You can do it yourself ngl it's easy
See the pinned message for the tutorial

Or look for Custom Models Loader, you can just slap the outfit and it'll be done in like 50 second

[plain crescent]

Download UniversalAssetLoader
https://github.com/Rist8/MiSide-UniversalAssetLoader/releases/latest

That alone has a bunch of build in mods

Some of them are the ability of enabling Halloween and Christmas mode with just one click inside the game

[granite spade]

ah thank you, I had deleted it when I tried installing some custom models

[sinful raven]

Hello guys, i tried using mods to change mita's outfit but when i started the game it didnt apear, i try then to delete the mods but now i cant see the other mita's oficial outfits :c

[river finch]

L

[prime whale]

how do i use the loader

[prime whale]

i tried to do it and can't figure it out

[plain crescent]

Be more specific

[prime whale]

im missing the assimp.dll file i think

so how to i make a outfit

[solemn crane]

check pinned messages
there is a tutorial how to make custom model

[covert shoal]

Hey, I got this error while opening MiSide with BepInEx and Custom Model Loader(I setted up everything correctly):

Unhandled exception. System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'Il2Cppmscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'. O sistema nÆo pode encontrar o arquivo especificado.
File name: 'Il2Cppmscorlib, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'
at BepInEx.Unity.IL2CPP.IL2CPPChainloader.OnInvokeMethod(IntPtr method, IntPtr obj, IntPtr parameters, IntPtr exc)

Does smn know something abt it?

[prime whale]

could someone make a nurse with gloves and nurse cap i cant figure out how to do it

[solemn crane]

i transferred the weight, but here is what I see in the game
is it because the shoes have a lot of polygons?

[plain crescent]

Damn the polygon is crazy

You better need to use a decimate modifier to reduce the polygon

[solemn crane]

does the game have a limit for polygons?

[plain crescent]

No, I don't believe so, but the polygon is too crazy for any game

Your mod will be less optimized below yandere dev

[prime whale]

i cant figure out how to make it please help

[solemn crane]

is this quantity fine?

[solemn crane]

Aoba made a tutorial how to make custom model
Did you watch it?

[solemn crane]

Thanks it works

[prime whale]

i did but i still did not understand it

could someone do it for me i dont get it

[solemn crane]

If you want to create a model from scratch, you need to know how to use Blender. If you just want to load an already existing model into the game, it's quite feasible to do even without Blender experience. It won't be easy if you're doing it for the first time, but the tutorial covers everything you need to know

[prime whale]

there is not way you can do it?

but make it so it is seperate addons

[left willow]

chat

[plain crescent]

It worked? Dayum that means the game has vertices limit

[prime whale]

something like this but red latex gloves or black option to choose

[plain crescent]

Dayum, I think the limit is on RAM size since UAL needs to load the vertices in some variables

Nice discovery

[prime whale]

i cant figure out the blender

[plain crescent]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61205007/is-there-maximum-number-of-meshes-in-unity

Dayumm the maximum vertices per object is 65535

This is indeed an interesting number

[prime whale]

could some one do this as a addon for mita

[plain crescent]

Man, no offense but you should try yourself first, take your time to learn blender

[thorny stone]

Jordan ?

[plain crescent]

I don't think anyone cares enough to do them without getting paid

[plain crescent]

Just try and tell your progress in this channel, we can help if you have a problem

[solemn crane]

I think so
I just searched for ‘free shoes fbx’

[solemn crane]

shoes had 300k polys lol

[thorny stone]

Player with jordan

[plain crescent]

Damn

[soft remnant]

well its difficult because of how amazing the model is

im actually learning alot just by fiddling around with stuff on the model

ingame malenia is to easy for me because i would have beat her around 7 times however unalloyed malenia is another story im having trouble with her and ALOT

[tribal flax]

What mod should i get?

[soft remnant]

anyone u want brother

[tribal flax]

Aight

[soft remnant]

interesting 2 malenias

yeah second and first phase

i dont really get why there is 2 because the second phase one has everything from first phase aswell

maybe one is for the cutscene? who knows

[echo ridge]

is the game mono or il2cpp??

[soft remnant]

il2

[echo ridge]

thank you!

[echo ridge]

i cannot get unity explorer to work, do you know the fix or anything, the latest.

can someone please, help me. fr. just rq, im already at the files and everything, just need someone to watch my screen and guide or something, nothing online is useful

[soft remnant]

watch my video https://youtu.be/yrMyIN0HwOU?si=DithL9mEL2xEsyoB

[echo ridge]

i might have done it now

[echo ridge]

launching, did i have to launch first before putting explorer in the plugins??

[soft remnant]

what is explorer

are you using custom model loader?

[echo ridge]

unity explorer

its still not working T_T

[soft remnant]

i think your using a different mod engine

[plain crescent]

Use this one, it's supported to the newer version of unity
https://github.com/yukieiji/UnityExplorer

You can use BepInEx or melonloader

[soft remnant]

what is this

[echo ridge]

i tried this one im pretty sure

this is whats in rn

@plain crescent

[soft remnant]

BRO WHAT IS THIS SKELETON

this has to be cutscenes or something now way

why tf is there like 200 bones

[plain crescent]

I'm 100% sure that one is working

I'm using that one

[echo ridge]

i was using x86......

i finally have it running, but then this lol

@plain crescent anything popping out about the errors?

[soft remnant]

hes busy rn doing stuff

[echo ridge]

oh

sorry

[soft remnant]

hell be back in a lil bit

[brisk prawn]

Soside doesn't work :(

[eager bolt]

hey does anybody have good vrms for desktop mate

[echo ridge]

says im basically missing patches? or is that not whats causing it... hm... wish someone else had this error to know haha

ok, its not patchers or anything, its literally those 2 errors at the bottom, tried to resolve by changing from zeros, but still missing class fields

alr, while i wait, ill continue playing ig

ping me when you can help please!

[stark badger]

Time to use Dnspy Debug Step to Over Step Into

[solemn crane]

I hope you don't want to put this into miside

[soft remnant]

no i was just ripping apart elden ring for fun

if i wanted to put that into miside ill be better of creating the game from scratch

[stark badger]

Build as AssetBundle Put into game as a scene

Scene Size Large than MiSide

[soft remnant]

bro if i export this and send it to you will you do it?

[stark badger]

No

[soft remnant]

ight

[stark badger]

https://tenor.com/view/titan-aot-gif-25340182

[soft remnant]

yeah i tried extracting the map and its all just

no clue why

30,000 of them

[stark badger]

[plain crescent]

Man i really need to optimize the asset replacement command

[soft remnant]

u needa make it actually hard

osu mania type shi

im trina do a 7* or smt

[soft remnant]

is the voice different here?

[pulsar whale]

it is miku voice yes

[soft remnant]

i thought i was tripping

how have u even made that?

[plain crescent]

Well sazuko doing all of the audio work

It's having a frame shuttering on Ryzen 7, can't wait to see the performance on cerelon device .
Definitely need a way to remove the looping process

[solemn crane]

guys I have 2 questions

the first: is it because of my potato laptop or, as you already said it's normal for ual

[plain crescent]

Yes that is intentional, we make it that way to improve performance, without the delayed loading process, the maneken world will totally burn your laptop

And i never seen any other tools that can patch all of the maneken

[solemn crane]

the second: why when I start the game, it doesn’t change the hair (sometimes it just add the custom hair above Mita’s hair), but when I off and on the mod again in the menu, it works fine

[plain crescent]

Yeah somehow the mesh is null

But as i remembered it correctly, rist patch it in the 0.11.2 beta version

[solemn crane]

oh nice thanks

[amber thunder]

that's just how fromsoft is\

lots of models are just duped

should check the dlc enemies

[soft remnant]

dont have the dlc on pc

i usually play on xbox

[amber thunder]

they're duped from the main game 1:1 and sometimes have like an extra animation or 2

[soft remnant]

i see

[amber thunder]

and ye, blender doesn't support fbx imports, there's a plugin for that you can get, if you want a proper export from the game i suggest using "aquamodeltool"

[soft remnant]

Yeah I got all that

[soft remnant]

Blender does support fbx wym

[amber thunder]

not that good

i can send you the plugin in a sec. you can see for yourself

[soft remnant]

It converted it all exported from smith box used witchy then aqua then blender

I dont understand what ur saying blender supports fbx fine

[solemn crane]

and i also noticed, that you guys fixed the interactive white outline on Mita (i really appreciate it), but that problem still remains on other Mitas (cap and kind) with custom meshes
is it possible to fix it in addons_config?

[glossy wren]

pretty sure that's the case

[amber thunder]

i mean, you saw the skeleton you imported, the default blender import can be serviceable depending on your use case but the amount of people that complained to shadowth (aquamodeltool dev) about issues that blender causes with it's default fbx support is quite a lot.
i guess the best you can do is just make the bones render as sticks

[soft remnant]

Well for what im gonna do with the model the bones on malenia are useless

I’m gonna switch them out anyway

[amber thunder]

then yeah, you probably won't need it

[soft remnant]

What would you even reuse malenia bones for anyway? Just Elden ring mods?

[amber thunder]

transfer weights maybe idk

[glossy wren]

you could use the original weights and transfer it onto the miside bones using weight paint mix, although that probably would take too long

[amber thunder]

posing and stuff too

[soft remnant]

Can u show me what ur talking about with this fbx stuff I still don’t understand fully

So ur telling me these aren’t malenia bones used in game?

There is leaf bones there so ignore them

[glossy wren]

that looks a whole lot different than mine

[soft remnant]

Show

[glossy wren]

although to be fair i'm using an outdated tools

[soft remnant]

Show ur skeleton

[glossy wren]

the model is mirrored, and i imported it as an smd

i'm using bloodborne_model_v3 to convert the flver files

[amber thunder]

oof ancient stuff

[glossy wren]

i probably could've used a flver editor to extract it as dae

[soft remnant]

So ur guys are Elden modders?

[amber thunder]

ye, i was just randomly checking the chat and got malenia jumpscared

[glossy wren]

i've modded mostly armor sets in but i did modded jevil from deltarune as malenia as an inside joke

[soft remnant]

cool i have been looking for people to chat with about this stuff i couldnt find a elden mod community

[soft remnant]

lol

[amber thunder]

i was like "what is the aonia doing here" and scrolled to see you wanting to rig her model

[glossy wren]

there's ?ServerName? discord server

[amber thunder]

ye

very funny name

[soft remnant]

im gonna speed run elden on my pc to get to malenia cause i wanna beat unalloyed malenia

im gonna do it if its the last thing i do

[glossy wren]

i still can't even dodge waterfowl dance normally

[amber thunder]

let me send you an invite real quick cuz this is getting more into ER than miside lol

[glossy wren]

fair point

[soft remnant]

i have beat base malenia so many times to the point where i 1 try every run and it gets boring then i found unalloyed

[amber thunder]

invite sent

[soft remnant]

bet

[glossy wren]

also are you modding malenia in as mita?

[amber thunder]

welp, i don't wanna derail the chat more than i already did so feel free to hit me up in dms if you ever need anything fromsoft related

[soft remnant]

100%

[soft remnant]

well i thought it would be a cool idea, however i was just fiddling around in the game files because i have played this shi since release and only recently got a pc so i have been wanting to do this for ages

[glossy wren]

i see, if you do end up putting malenia in as mita, i'm putting in the raging wolf armor set as the mc just to go along with it lol

[soft remnant]

bet

idk how im gonna do it because the cape wont have bones

[amber pewter]

legit surprised i haven't seen unsavory mods yet

[glossy wren]

what do you mean by that

[twilit tartan]

you just have to enable them

[amber pewter]

nsfw lmao

[glossy wren]

it already exists, just turn off the filter on nexusmod

[amber pewter]

i don't have it on wtf, don't tell me im just not logged in.. man, well idk what i was expecting

[pulsar whale]

yeah, nexus hides them if you're not logged in

[amber pewter]

the devs reaction to these mods coming put within 10 minutes of the game being out

[glossy wren]

i'm puttin mamsnrbhr chehfde in th e gam

[pulsar whale]

hm

that model is easy to port in it seems

bones are very simple

[twilit tartan]

very similar to mita's rig

[pulsar whale]

no, not mita's rig

rather, MC's rig

[glossy wren]

i made the rig myself and already posed it into the mc pose already

it's just valve biped rig

[hushed hearth]

wow

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-the-next-step-for-immigration-immigration-alien-locked-in-alien-locked-in-gif-7143551599349454414

@glossy wren do you know why me and rayans bones are so big when importing malenia into blender

[glossy wren]

you're using octahedral for the viewport model, switch it to stick so they look a bit more cleaned up

[soft remnant]

yeah but the bones are still insanely long

i changed it to these bones so you could see

[glossy wren]

that's kinda just how fbx import is i'm pretty sure

they're small on mine because it's smd

[soft remnant]

but i have another model where its not tiny and looks normal

ignore leaf bones

so the massive bones arent something to worry about?

[glossy wren]

probably?

[soft remnant]

shiii

how have u gotten urs to smd

[glossy wren]

bloodborne_model_v3.exe

literally ancient tool

[soft remnant]

bro i still needa play bloodborne

bought it havent touched it

[glossy wren]

this

just drag and drop flver into it and you'll get an smd

if you want the tool, i'll send it

[soft remnant]

nah no need

[glossy wren]

gotcha

[soft remnant]

gonna switch out the bones prob anyway

i wanna try porting this model into miside and black ops 2 zombies

ill match the model to mita for future me

this fur part seems oddly low quality

yeah wtf

one of the many mystery's along with this model following the butterfly's that looks ridiculous

[smoky olive]

We used to have 64 bits for more than 65535 vertices before, but then i just used default 32 bits for everything

[hearty zodiac]

Hey Rist, how's it going tonight?

[plain crescent]

Ohhh i see, welp 32 bit is better for user memory's

using higher number for WaitForSeconds definitely kinda help the performance but this doesn't completely remove the shutter

And seems like i cant just use SetData directly to replace the sample on AudioClip

[hearty zodiac]

Looks smooth to me, also nice job with the miku mod!

[plain crescent]

It's having a frame shuttering once a few frame

[smoky olive]

I totally forgot about that

[smoky olive]

It's all fine and also it's morning for me

[hearty zodiac]

Whoops

[smoky olive]

Maybe try force use method?

[plain crescent]

Yeah i haven't tried that.
Kinda hopeless because i get an error that tells me the source audioclip does not match with the target audioclip

[smoky olive]

[stark badger]

Next Feature Dance Game Circle Base on music adjust

[plain crescent]

You mean like a guitar hero's custom song?

That's trash af

[stark badger]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotou-bocchi-headbanging-freebird-gif-14674263934850047198

[smoky olive]

I remember someone already did this

[plain crescent]

Man i kinda hate Unity

[soft remnant]

always have always will

https://tenor.com/view/goku-black-zamasu-homies-gif-22339187

[stark badger]

It Call twice

[plain crescent]

The scene changed so it's expected

[stark badger]

[hushed hearth]

give our some useful tools with C#

[plain crescent]

Tho idk why they're duplicating sometimes in the main menu

[stark badger]

Change Scene

[dark crane]

anyone got the Ayaka mod?

[plain crescent]

And the duplicates don't get registered to the renderer dictionary, prob because of the identical name

Bruh probably i should release a lite version of my miku mod that doesn't contain audioclip replacement

[stark badger]

i commet this line fix problem

Need to Research

[plain crescent]

FindMita is basically searching for all mita animator , without them, mita's won't get patched

[stark badger]

But still have modify skin

[plain crescent]

Oh?

[stark badger]

in menu

[plain crescent]

What the heck

[stark badger]

not commet will have two gameobject
commet will only one gameobject

[soft remnant]

major problem the hand proportions do no fit mitas hand at all so the thumb looks so cooked

actuall i know a fix

edit mode for the win

[plain crescent]

I think FindMita is called on bootup by the logOnClick, but still called by onSceneChanged anyway

Yup that's exactly the problem

Thank god this isn't a backup system failure

[stark badger]

[plain crescent]

@stark badger thanks for pointing this out

[stark badger]

Change Skin restart game will auto apply
Does this is bug or feature?

[soft remnant]

feature

[plain crescent]

You mean miside skin? Like the vampire and Christmas one?

Or does you mean "Why does the mod still apply after restarting the game?"?

[stark badger]

When i equip this
Restart game it's will still this skin or it will reset to origin mita?

[plain crescent]

Oh yeah, that's a feature, a lot of ppl requesting this feature

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-the-next-step-for-immigration-immigration-alien-locked-in-alien-locked-in-gif-7143551599349454414

[plain crescent]

Man i give up with AudioClip.SetData, I'll just gonna bonk the yield time

[stark badger]

[smoky olive]

SetData isn't static, is it?

[plain crescent]

No they aren't

[stark badger]

So solution is commet this line?

[plain crescent]

No, I'm adding some check conditions on startup

To avoid calling FindMita twice

[stark badger]

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale with the current model im using its a fbx and the bones dont have L and R on the end of the names so is there i was to automatically make it so opposite bones auto have L and R on end of the name otherwise i have to rename so many bones it isnt even funny

[plain crescent]

I thought it was my backup system being schizo, turns out the mesh just duplicated

Oh hey the audiosource just get destroyed after finishing the game

[stark badger]

Maybe Dance game end event Destory

[plain crescent]

Wait how can i force them? I didn't find any documentation on unity scripting api

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-hatsune-miku-fortnite-emote-gif-1508156851947867078

[tulip herald]

demogorgon mita when

[soft remnant]

tf is that

[plain crescent]

NEGIII

[keen gorge]

Does anyone know which version of asset studio works to view MiSide files?

[plain crescent]

Replaced the cat with hellokitty www

[next pawn]

btw, is there any specific method for rigging the eyes?
They don't have their own vertex group and just assigning the eye mesh to the eye bones yields rather unpleasant results

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254669393955258399/1271450023325995119/togif-3.gif

[plain crescent]

https://github.com/AXiX-official/Studio

[soft remnant]

wym bro

mita has eye vertexes

[next pawn]

this is what I mean 💀

[soft remnant]

u have lost vertexes or something brother

[soft remnant]

where did u get this model?

[next pawn]

Nexusmods, the example .zip

[soft remnant]

nah bro u gotta extract it urself or ask someone reliable

cant trust that shi bro

[next pawn]

so
now, another issue is that when I did assign the eyes to the bones, it did this:

I feel like it might be related to how the eyes themseves are handled, but idk
(also, don't mind the shaders, it's a test model ww)

[soft remnant]

you apply transform and transforms to delta?

[next pawn]

...on the individual bones?
'cause I 've applied the scale and rotation on the main armature itself, so I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.

[soft remnant]

ctrl a

apply transforms

then ctrl a again then apply transforms to deltas

[next pawn]

alright, did that.
Ctrl+A on the armature, applied transforms, then CTRL+A, applied all transforms to Deltas

I'll set the new model up rq and come back with the result

[soft remnant]

bet

[pulsar whale]

me when the image is using CML

[soft remnant]

are you serious?

[pulsar whale]

its obvious

[soft remnant]

ahh yes because of shader

[next pawn]

nope, same result
they rotate correctly now, but they still have the weird offset, hmmmmmm

[soft remnant]

brother im gonna give you a life changing hack

dont try and use cml

yo

nah didnt get it from there

persona 4 the worst one to

3 the best

4 is the worst

just so boring

[pulsar whale]

https://tenor.com/view/false-persona-4-adachi-gif-8291619742761507310

[plain crescent]

Dayumm what should we do abt this

[pulsar whale]

me when xmas and vamp has different skeelton

[plain crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-dog-sims-hug-gif-22144580

[next pawn]

right, so has anyone else here experienced the eye meshes on their models being offset like this?

[finite flare]

@plain crescent god finally I don't have to pester you in dms

[plain crescent]

OOHH NICE

[soft remnant]

no because ur using cml

it loads shi differently to UAL

[next pawn]

is that like, an export thing or smth?
tried searching it up in regards to Unity stuff, and it only spit out machine learning-related answers

[soft remnant]

can you show me your Plugins folder

go to plugins

and show whats in there

[next pawn]

ah
could'a said that was Custom Model Loader
the overall model import is similar to the Universal Asset Loader tho, right?

[soft remnant]

no

if you want you model to work and look legit make it for Universal

[soft remnant]

AHHH sorry

[smoky olive]

All force methods are in ReflectionForcer.cs in Utils folder

[finite flare]

the lights are dimming for some reason

[soft remnant]

This is my model when i used Custom Model Loader to import it

This is my model when i used Universal Asset Loader to import it

Custom Model Loader is just a easy way out and its quality is no where near Universal

[plain crescent]

Aww mannn i feel dumb, i haven't opened that folder

[plain crescent]

This is probably because of some parameters,
Using _MainColor should be enough

[finite flare]

SetColor _MainColor (1,0.2,0,1) 1
SetFloat _PointLightSVD 1
SetFloat _PointSpotlightIntensity 60

[plain crescent]

Yeah don't use PointLightsvd and pointlightintensity

Main color is enough, just use higher emissions value

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale what do i do about this predicament these last 2 finger dont match at all

and the finger are added on weird because its a metal arm

[plain crescent]

Tho self lit should help

[finite flare]

selflit

[plain crescent]

We def should play with every params and documenting it lmao

But i'm too lazy

[finite flare]

well I will at least try the self lit

@plain crescent is there a way to remove the shader params

they don't get removed if you offload the mod

[plain crescent]

Oh good question

Well if they're skinned appendix, they'll get resets

But if you're replacing the mesh, yeah this is kinda the problem

[finite flare]

self lit does nothing

rip

[finite flare]

why would I not use it if the original has it, that's my question

[plain crescent]

Oh yeah they should get resets after changing the scene, for example: loading a checkpoint

[plain crescent]

No, the original core doesn't use PointLightsvd parameter, but they are the PointLight itself

Kinda hard to explain ngl

[finite flare]

the name tells me all

so dw

[plain crescent]

@ rist

I LOOOVE Il2Cpp

[finite flare]

🤣

[finite flare]

well if I don't use pointlightSVD, then it displays different vs the menu

[plain crescent]

I'm only using these parameter and the glow seems the same between scene

[finite flare]

I swear it has to do something with me being on linux and it running through proton

I reload and it's like your behaviour

[smoky olive]

There must be an explicit conversion

Or you can convert it manually

[plain crescent]

var il2CppCopyData = new Il2CppInterop.Runtime.InteropTypes.Arrays.Il2CppStructArray<float>(copyData.Length);
        for (int i = 0; i < copyData.Length; i++)
        {
            il2CppCopyData[i] = copyData[i];
        }

        Reflection.ForceUseMethod(loadedAudio[audioKey], "SetData", il2CppCopyData, 0);

Let's see if this works

Guess not

Welp im dead

[smoky olive]

F

[smoky olive]

Then it's problem with GetData

[plain crescent]

Damnnn rist you're right, are you some kind of furtune tellers or what

Get data resulting 0 value for all the index

Wonder why

[smoky olive]

Because it's from compressed .ogg format i guess

[plain crescent]

Lets try wav

[smoky olive]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AudioClip.GetData.html

[smoky olive]

We don't support it at the moment

You can try same thing as for textures, save compressed raw data to use it in this function

Not sure if it will work though

[plain crescent]

With the ogg? Or the wav version?

[smoky olive]

Ogg

[plain crescent]

Alr

[finite flare]

real nice

[smoky olive]

It works there with audioData so you can save the audioData an use it same way

[finite flare]

@smoky olive

replacing cappie head fails sometimes

[plain crescent]

Damn right

[smoky olive]

Logs are 144p for me

[finite flare]

this better?

[plain crescent]

I wonder why index error console is straight up opaque

Hard to see lmaooo

[finite flare]

because of wine 😦

[smoky olive]

Null mesh

[finite flare]

how is it null

[smoky olive]

Idk

[smoky olive]

[finite flare]

kind gets replaced fine so

[plain crescent]

Rist is there a possibility of race condition?

[smoky olive]

Coroutines can't have it in theory

But i might be that cappie has unstable loading time or smth like that

[finite flare]

replace_tex Mita Hair CoreMita\Hairs !Kind !Cap !Future !Dreamer !Know !Chibi !ShortHairs
replace_mesh Mita Hair CoreMita\CoreMitaHair CoreMitaHair !Kind !Cap !Future !Dreamer !Know !Chibi !ShortHairs

no idea

probably just loaded wrong

[plain crescent]

Damn loadedRawAudio gonna burn ppl RAM

[smoky olive]

Use compression as for textures

Convertion to byte[] will be easy, just multiply the values of float[] by 128 and after decompression divide them by 128

[plain crescent]

IT WORKED

MY GOSH

[finite flare]

[Error : Unity] Not allowed to access vertices on mesh 'Hair' (isReadable is false; Read/Write must be enabled in import settings)
[Error : Unity] Not allowed to access vertices on mesh 'Hair' (isReadable is false; Read/Write must be enabled in import settings)
@smoky olive

[plain crescent]

It worked, the audioclip does change 100%
But the whole game is muted now wtf

[finite flare]

replace_tex Mita Head CoreMita\Body !Chibi !Tiny !Little !Maneken !Creepy !Broke !Core !CreepyMita

not excluding mila, but he does not get replaced

resize_mesh Mita Body 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita Head 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita Hair 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow 0.93 Mila Glasses

[plain crescent]

Oh nvm, it's worked now, i just fked up the frequency.

Gonna push the proper changes tomorrow, I'm dead for now

Damn with this i can change the entire game song without any lags

@junior heron

[finite flare]

no idea why she is broken like this, I exclude !CreepyMita and !Creepy

[smoky olive]

Show me your full config

[next pawn]

okay
doing the new setup, and for some reason it's spitting out this error, despite the bone being present
(or should the name match exactly, 1:1?)

but the textures sure do load

[smoky olive]

Well i'm not an expert but shouldn't armature be the root of the hierarchy, i mean why do you have these Mita and MitaPerson Mita?

[finite flare]

your armature should beign with Hips, not armature or mitaperson

[next pawn]

Okay, doing so just snapped the neck by 90 degrees, even after fixing the rotation in blender to match the updated reference provided by Adachi

plus, it's now somehow complaining about BangHair1 1, despite that bone clearly being present in both the updated reference and the modded model
but, this doesn't prevent the hair from loading, and instead messes with the body

[finite flare]

is BangHair 1 1 in the weight list

[next pawn]

yes, on both models, as they were split off from one to work with the texture atlases properly

[finite flare]

show me the error code from console

[next pawn]

not to mention, it worked with Custom Model Loader, so the bone's there, and it's working

[finite flare]

oh wait

I remember

you can't have body and hair bones in the same mesh otherwise it doesn't work

need to make hair and body seperate meshes

2 armatures, one with hair, one without, and replacing, head, body and hair / hairs

[next pawn]

they already are separate - so, maybe you mean that I should also remove the vertex groups?

[finite flare]

yes

that's what I have in my model as well

bones seperate as well

[next pawn]

hair, separate
shape keys, removed
end result, exactly the same

[pulsar whale]

BangHair

i rember

[finite flare]

me too lmao

[next pawn]

so I doubt that could actually be the problem ngl 💀
also, what's up with the neck snapping, anyway? Is that a common thing?

[pulsar whale]

what did you used for neck? Neck1 or Neck2?

[finite flare]

so body armature (bones) and mesh don't have any mentions of bang hair 1 1?

[next pawn]

both, with their own shapekeys
it also seems like a bit of a wider issue now that the whole model loads

[finite flare]

[next pawn]

I'd imagine that's because, now that the outside reference from MitaPerson is gone, the whole mesh gets rotated, all without rotating the armature it belongs to

so we get Miss-Noodly-Arms here

we creating a whole new kind of body horror with this one 🗣️ 🔥

[pulsar whale]

Did you used the template from my video?

Or did you just straight up used the ripped armature?

[next pawn]

I've cross-referenced it with yours, names and offsets did seem to match

and it does seem to work, after some fiddling - just gotta fix the hair

and then remesh the eyebrows, eyelashes and hair, or somehow force the game to recognize texture transparency or smth 💀

...another thing is that the blendshapes seem to be broken now, despite working in Blender, but that's also probably a case of them being duplicated on the other meshes

or maybe not, oh no

what makes it even more strange is that, cross-referencing the pinned list, it's the exact same amount, and even in the exact same order

[finite flare]

head is seperate?

[next pawn]

aye, head's separate

there are 4 parts being loaded - body, pantyhose(which is like, leg extras), head and hair

[finite flare]

try to load just the head

to test the shapekeys

[next pawn]

nope
although, one thing I am doing is unloading every part of the Mita model before loading the modded meshes - maybe that's messing with it somehow?

[finite flare]

you need to remove them after loading

*CoreMitaFIX
replace_mesh Mita Head CoreMita\CoreMitaHead CoreMitaHead !Chibi
replace_tex Mita Head CoreMita\Body !Chibi
replace_tex Mita Hair CoreMita\Hairs !Kind !Cap !Future !Dreamer !Know !Chibi
replace_mesh Mita Hair CoreMita\CoreMitaHair CoreMitaHair !Kind !Cap !Future !Dreamer !Know !Chibi
replace_mesh Mita Hairs CoreMita\CoreMitaHair CoreMitaHair !Kind !Cap !Future !Dreamer !Know !Chibi
replace_mesh Mita Body CoreMita\CoreMitaBody CoreMitaBody !Chibi
replace_tex Mita Body CoreMita\Body !Chibi
create_skinned_appendix Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow Body !Chibi
create_skinned_appendix Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow Head !Chibi
replace_tex Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow CoreMita\Body !Chibi
replace_tex Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow CoreMita\Body !Chibi
replace_mesh Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow CoreMita\CoreMitaBodyGlow CoreMitaBodyGlow !Chibi
replace_mesh Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow CoreMita\CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow !Chibi
shader_params Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow CoreMita\BodyShader all !Chibi
shader_params Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow CoreMita\EyeShader all !Chibi
resize_mesh Mita Body 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita Head 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita Hair 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita CoreMitaBodyGlow 0.93 Mila Glasses
resize_mesh Mita CoreMitaHeadEyeGlow 0.93 Mila Glasses
remove Mita Sweater
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Skirt
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Clothes

something like this

[next pawn]

yep, moved the removal to after the mesh replacement, but it's still spitting out the same error

[finite flare]

which version of UAL are you using

[next pawn]

updated to latest now, which seems to have changed things around
so now the command needs to be restructured again

[finite flare]

can you send your config

[next pawn]

here's the whole thing

[finite flare]

can you just post it like that?

[next pawn]

*Jadie Lectra
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Skirt
remove Mita Hair
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Body
remove Mita Head
remove Mita Sweater
create_skinned_appendix Mita Jadie Body
replace_mesh Mita Jadie JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieBody
replace_tex Mita Jadie JadieLectra\Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadieHairAP Hair
replace_mesh Mita JadieHairAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieHair
replace_tex Mita JadieHairAP JadieLectra\Hair
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadieHeadAP Head
replace_mesh Mita JadieHeadAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieHead
replace_tex Mita JadieHeadAP JadieLectra\Head
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadiePantyhoseAP Pantyhose
replace_mesh Mita JadiePantyhoseAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadiePantyhose
replace_tex Mita JadiePantyhoseAP JadieLectra\Pantyhose
//remove Mita Attribute
//remove Mita Shoes
//remove Mita Skirt
//remove Mita Hair
//remove Mita Pantyhose
//remove Mita Body
//remove Mita Head
//remove Mita Sweater
-remove Mita Jadie
-remove Mita JadieHairAP
-remove Mita JadieHeadAP
-remove Mita JadiePantyhoseAP
-remove Mita Attribute
-remove Mita Body
-remove Mita Head
-remove Mita Pantyhose
-remove Mita Shoes
-remove Mita Skirt
-recover Mita Attribute
-recover Mita Shoes
-recover Mita Skirt
-recover Mita Hair
-recover Mita Pantyhose
-recover Mita Body
-recover Mita Head
-recover Mita Sweater

[smoky olive]

we didn't change syntax of old commands at all

[finite flare]

*Jadie Lectra
create_skinned_appendix Mita Jadie Body
replace_mesh Mita Jadie JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieBody
replace_tex Mita Jadie JadieLectra\Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadieHairAP Hair
replace_mesh Mita JadieHairAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieHair
replace_tex Mita JadieHairAP JadieLectra\Hair
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadieHeadAP Head
replace_mesh Mita JadieHeadAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadieHead
replace_tex Mita JadieHeadAP JadieLectra\Head
create_skinned_appendix Mita JadiePantyhoseAP Pantyhose
replace_mesh Mita JadiePantyhoseAP JadieLectra\JadieMod JadiePantyhose
replace_tex Mita JadiePantyhoseAP JadieLectra\Pantyhose
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Skirt
remove Mita Hair
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Body
remove Mita Head
remove Mita Sweater

[next pawn]

still, despite the command being the same, it loads differently
so it doesn't take a genius to see that something's changed

[finite flare]

like this is enough

[next pawn]

I suppose
(kinda weird that it didn't work like that for me first try tho)
in any case, the only issues that remain are rigging, which can easily be solved by just fiddling around with Blender
(and then maybe I could touch the whole thing up with shader parameters)

either way, thanks y'all

oh yeah, and the blendshapes do work now, so that's nice too

[finite flare]

if you want glowing stuff on your character

lmk I can help

since I managed to this

[vast crescent]

Guys i got a question miside devs love miside mods?

[granite spade]

they have made a few channels regarding mods so I think they do

[vast crescent]

Oh cool

First comunity i seen love the mods

[twin cedar]

@index
Is it possible to make succubus Mita's eyes glow?

[finite flare]

yes

[forest karma]

yo can someone turn this vtuber into a miside mod? https://x.com/Kumachi_alamode/status/1882646614562779611

kumachi 🧸🧁 (@Kumachi_alamode) on X

ehe ;3

X · Jan 24, 2025, 4:28 AM

[upper egret]

Unrelated if anyone has seen any good mods on nexus, DM them to me please. NOT NSFW.

[solemn crane]

If she has a published model available, you can do it using the tutorial in the pinned messages

[forest karma]

Okie

[twilit tartan]

cappie's and mita's hair parented to the same head bone working great (weight paint is just temporary)

[smoky olive]

ok so now you guys prob need an outline for Cappie?

[twilit tartan]

the white outline? its working fine

[soft remnant]

the cutscene models are so high quality its not even funny

[smoky olive]

is it?

[twilit tartan]

yeah i think so

[plain crescent]

Yes and for Mila

[finite flare]

lmao

[smoky olive]

are you replacing meshes or creating skinned appendixes?

[twilit tartan]

optimiziations, people

[twilit tartan]

replacing

[smoky olive]

it works for existing objects obviously

[twilit tartan]

oh thats what you mean ic

[plain crescent]

Idk why outline doesn't work on mila

And it's too small on little

[graceful kraken]

is there any other games like this

[solemn crane]

hmm

I also use replacing

[soft remnant]

unfortunately because of the way Malenias hand is made i gotta choose between 2 of any finger to be off a little bit in this case it in the pointer finger and pinky

[twilit tartan]

thats odd might wanna ask rist

[twilit tartan]

you can stretch the fingers a bit to make them match at the joints

[soft remnant]

i have been trying however this hand is very weird i dont know how to explain it

[twilit tartan]

hm ic

[soft remnant]

i did it fine with the other hand

[soft remnant]

however this ones joints somehow work and feel different than the normal hand

the best way to explain it is the the finger joints arent connected to anything they are their own thing

so when i move the fingers it doesnt to anything to the hand

[twilit tartan]

you mean the armor segments?

[soft remnant]

yeah they arent connected to the hand at all

[twilit tartan]

do they have weight paint

that looks normal

[soft remnant]

idk what to say somehow it feels different than the rest of the hands

its feels mechanical

maybe its the dimensions of the hand being the worst possible match for mita

i mean im already pushing it by doing this but there is no other way

[frank tulip]

dam we got mod?

[solemn crane]

outline on this Mita works fine

[twilit tartan]

send your addons_config

[soft remnant]

This arm is way to tall for mita so im praying the bones still work somehow

also since the malenia head is actually realistic its gonna be rough since its so small

[solemn crane]

oh I see
I'm creating a skinned appendix for the body, since I use it two times (for hands and for the sweater)

[smoky olive]

something related to culling

[solemn crane]

but why it still works for Mita?

[soft remnant]

@twilit tartan will this shoulder be all good because its way to high for mita

[solemn crane]

[smoky olive]

those are from the fix i'm working on right now

[solemn crane]

ah ok

[smoky olive]

btw they are semitransparent just because i forgot to replace one constant for statics

@plain crescent pushed the fix into main, but won't make a release because you hadn't pushed your AudioClips fix yet

[smoky olive]

pdb is just for better logs i think, maybe, not sure if it is needed at all

only thing i know about it is that it is needed for debugging

[solemn crane]

Rist you are the best
thank you

[smoky olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-menhera-gif-19625880

[plain crescent]

Alr will push them

Need a bit of refactoring

[solemn crane]

I like this feature so bad
do you know names for other pics?

[opal jackal]

If someone is looking for an idea of mod to make, i'd love to see a mod that lets you customize the keys. Just saying 🥺

[dark crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHqjn3mEUc

please

[plain crescent]

Man, compressing audio files takes a decade

Rist I think I'll leave them as float[] for now

[smoky olive]

Use UABE or other tools to know them

[smoky olive]

What about decompression?

[plain crescent]

Still takes a decade because i need to convert them back to float for setData

[smoky olive]

I guess there must be something like c++ pointers casting

[plain crescent]

Oh, index requested devmode
He wants addons config to get refreshed instead of saving them on the variable

Putting devmode.txt in assets folders will activate this but rn it's just a simple re-read addons config

Gonna fully implement them myself for the next version

[smoky olive]

You can even add full reload of assets on f5 in devmode

[smoky olive]

`using System;

class Program
{
static void Main()
{
// Example byte array (contains raw binary representation of floats)
float[] originalFloatArray = { 1.1f, 2.2f, 3.3f, 4.4f };
byte[] byteArray = new byte[originalFloatArray.Length * sizeof(float)];
Buffer.BlockCopy(originalFloatArray, 0, byteArray, 0, byteArray.Length);

    // Allocate a new float array to store the converted values
    float[] floatArray = new float[byteArray.Length / sizeof(float)];

    // Convert the byte array back to float array
    Buffer.BlockCopy(byteArray, 0, floatArray, 0, byteArray.Length);

    // Output the float array
    Console.WriteLine("Float Array: ");
    foreach (float value in floatArray)
    {
        Console.WriteLine(value);
    }
}

}
`

[plain crescent]

Buffer.BlockCopy(originalFloatArray, 0, byteArray, 0, byteArray.Length);

This is the main culprit that makes loading process takes decades

I'll try them again later

Sleep now rist, you need then wwww

[smoky olive]

Do we care about unsafe code?

If no just use the pointers

[plain crescent]

[smoky olive]

If yes use MemoryMarshal

`using System;
using System.Runtime.InteropServices;

class Program
{
static void Main()
{
// Example float array
float[] floatArray = { 1.1f, 2.2f, 3.3f, 4.4f };

    // Reinterpret the float array as a ReadOnlySpan<byte>
    ReadOnlySpan<byte> byteSpan = MemoryMarshal.AsBytes<float>(floatArray);

    // Output the bytes
    Console.WriteLine("Byte Array:");
    foreach (byte b in byteSpan)
    {
        Console.Write(b + " ");
    }
}

}
`

[plain crescent]

Alr will try them later this day

[smoky olive]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-done-all-done-all-set-im-finished-gif-656187830652118874

`using System;
using System.Buffers;
using System.IO;
using System.IO.Compression;
using System.Runtime.InteropServices;

class Program
{
static void Main()
{
// Example float array
float[] floatArray = { 1.1f, 2.2f, 3.3f, 4.4f };

    // Reinterpret the float array as ReadOnlySpan<byte>
    ReadOnlySpan<byte> byteSpan = MemoryMarshal.AsBytes(floatArray);

    // Compress using a stream
    byte[] compressedData = Compress(byteSpan);

    Console.WriteLine("Compressed Data:");
    Console.WriteLine(BitConverter.ToString(compressedData));
}

static byte[] Compress(ReadOnlySpan<byte> data)
{
    using (var memoryStream = new MemoryStream())
    {
        using (var gzipStream = new GZipStream(memoryStream, CompressionMode.Compress))
        {
            // Write the span directly to the stream
            var buffer = ArrayPool<byte>.Shared.Rent(data.Length);
            try
            {
                data.CopyTo(buffer);
                gzipStream.Write(buffer, 0, data.Length);
            }
            finally
            {
                ArrayPool<byte>.Shared.Return(buffer);
            }
        }
        return memoryStream.ToArray();
    }
}

}
`

Ok now i'm done

[paper path]

Hey modders! VR when?

[twilit tartan]

https://youtu.be/5C71bqlW4a4

[twilit tartan]

this is stopping me from using one armature with both mita's and cappie's hair: these bones share the same name

[plain crescent]

Exactly

Fun fact, cap and know has different armature

Well it's only 1 bone difference

[twilit tartan]

oh well using multiple files isnt the worst solution

[plain crescent]

Miku is this really you?

[twilit tartan]

omggg

[solemn crane]

what could be the problem? it looks like the left shoe doesn't have part of the textures

after using a decimate modifier I just copied the right shoe and mirrored it

[plain crescent]

The mesh is clearly loaded but it seems like the vertices are facing the wrong way

Seems like they're flipped inside out or something

[solemn crane]

[twilit tartan]

decimate can do bad things

[solemn crane]

why the right shoe works good? I copied it after applying the modifier

so problem should be in blender, not in the game, right?

[twilit tartan]

what did you use to copy it

[solemn crane]

Shift+D

[twilit tartan]

try using a mirror modifier

[solemn crane]

yes it has textures inside lmao

[plain crescent]

[solemn crane]

I love you brother

[twilit tartan]

nice

[plain crescent]

This thingy is hard to get it right

At this point, there won't be any mita

Kinda weird we can't change the cursor image directly

Ohh there we go

[plain crescent]

Rist this still takes a decade to compress

I think audio files have too many values to compress at runtime

[soft remnant]

@junior heron how have you created the Miku Voice AI or something?

@plain crescent have you changed the book textures?

[plain crescent]

No, it feels cringe if i replace everything

I just replace mita element

[amber pewter]

hu tao wifey

[amber pewter]

i need a freaking good PC to play this when it comes out

im so pissed off mine broke in april

[plain crescent]

Man...
I just waste my time recording the gameplay to make a trailer for my miku mod.
And it turns out the video using low bitrates

I hate OBS at this point

[stark badger]

OBS Setting

[amber pewter]

use MKV and set your bitrate higher

you're going to save on storage a lot

[twilit tartan]

we have mita!

[finite flare]

didn't you just have to exclude !cap !know ?

in hair and hairs replacement, as well as texture

[twilit tartan]

i had to paint the hair to cappie's and kind's bones too

[finite flare]

I mean in core replacement I replace hair, but to get cappie I just excluded the hair from replacement, but you just wanted the cap ig ?

[rare jay]

does anyone know how long it took for the devs to actually model Mita?

maybe including conception?

[jagged veldt]

youd have to ask the artist about that

id imagine not very long though

looks like maybe a two or so days of work

[finite flare]

looks like the normals just flipped

just ctrl + N recalculate outside

[green yarrow]

Where can I get this?

[plain crescent]

It hasn't been released yet
I'm planning to release her later today, want to get notified? I'll mention you

[green yarrow]

I meant the hatsune miku one aside or together

[green yarrow]

Yes please

[plain crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-yippee-autism-creature-mike-gif-15786922921540826417

[green yarrow]

I am just a big fan of miku what can I say,my color of the php is just like hers

[smoky olive]

Is it finally time when my embedded optimisations knowledge comes in handy?

[small plover]

mention me too 🙏

[green yarrow]

Btw i see you have the Donald profile picture from kingdom hearts 3 right?