you probably can't except try to make the jiggle physics subtle
#miside-mods-discussion
pulsar whale
pulsar whale
maybe you can weight those transparent bit to full red
you dont want them to deform
twilit tartan
add weight to the inner mesh so it jiggles with the boobs and wont clip
pulsar whale
yeah
it is caused by transparent bit being deformed
actual reason why weight transferring sucks
it breaks a lot of things
some mod breaks with new UAL 0.10.3
exotic jackal
@soft remnant i might have some insight into that. First is the vertex, one vertex or more is weighing down the sweater on boobs spot so that it doesn't jiggle nicely along with boobs.
The sweater may be too thin or it is not held together very well by cloth animation.
pulsar whale
that too
exotic jackal
lastly, if you have a modifer on that sweater, its prob screwing something like that
pulsar whale
he doesnt
he just do only weight transferring
(which is... not really made for this case)
exotic jackal
i have no experience with this but i did play with Maiden in Black demon souls old version, her cloth was really atrocious
plain crescent
some mod breaks with new UAL 0.10.3
I think we should use an adaptor pattern??
Something that can automatically replace MitaPerson Mita from the addons_config.txt itself?
But adaptor methods are quite expensive and kinda the opposite of modularity
pulsar whale
yeah, i feel like the author should update along with new UAL
we need modularity for sure
meanwhile ill try to figure out the MC modding
exotic jackal
aoba, is it okay if i ask you a lot of questions if i get time tmr?
pulsar whale
for sure
exotic jackal
Siddly showed me tiny mita unscarred but its missing skeleton and I was debating whether to work from beginning or create a skeleton and paint all weights. The first option enables me to put her model into the game. Second option enables me to animate her and put her in movies or poses for fan art consistently
plain crescent
meanwhile ill try to figure out the MC modding
Will the process are kinda the same for replacing mita?
Searching for player in the game world, then replace the meshes
Or will it be a completely different thing?
exotic jackal
what do you think?
pulsar whale
the skeleton should be the same that came with the game, you don't have to recreate the whole thing again
how did you rip her out?
if you're exporting it as .obj, you're doing it wrong
exotic jackal
Siddly did it lol
exotic jackal
fixed tiny mod? i am on it rn
i have the base model from using b something and ual something
exotic jackal
here is how to install
wait this mod enables swapping out character models, not in start menu but in game itself right?
pulsar whale
both ingame and menu
exotic jackal
hell yeah
pulsar whale
UABEA is very effective
exotic jackal
alright imma go sleep now and do you have a lot of exerpience with blender?
pulsar whale
i see blender as modding tool, i don't see it as modelling tool
so i only have a good knowledge to port stuff from point a to point b
but troubleshooting skills are quite low
jagged veldt
im willing to help if you need anything
exotic jackal
im willing to help if you need anything
Fudge yeah! I'll ask questions about blender tmr
pulsar whale
why is iron man doing yoga
soft remnant
exotic jackal
He looks different tho
exotic jackal
Oh right, I forgot to mention that multiple vertex with overlapping weight causes that I think
pulsar whale
that is also true too
soft remnant
to much thinking rn for that need to let my frontal lobe cool down
pulsar whale
since something else is also moving
i have massive brainwave
3rd person mode for MiSide
exotic jackal
to much thinking rn for that need to let my frontal lobe cool down
Wanna let it cool down? Sit in lore channel for an hour and you get brain rot instead. Also, the easiest analogy is, you're trying to pull up a rope attached to rock but it's weighed down by another rope from a different direction.
exotic jackal
3rd person mode for MiSide
I gotta see this
pulsar whale
Wanna let it cool down? Sit in lore channel for an hour and you get brain rot in...
I was doing that until I realized it wasn't for me
so I came here and live here now
twilit tartan
some mod breaks with new UAL 0.10.3
jagged veldt
3rd person mode for MiSide
idk if the game is animated enouhg to do that
wintry stump
Is there a mita as firefly mod from hsr
exotic jackal
so I came here and live here now
I like to eat popcorn while there's a fire on the other side of the river. That reminds me. In lore channel Metal has to cosplay within a week with earliest being tomorrow.
jagged veldt
i think im gonna make toki from blue archive
wintry stump
there's tutorial on how to in pinned btw
Ill check it out after my finals 😭🙏
jagged veldt
that seems fun and simple enough
wintry stump
Are the bones not a problem to port?
pulsar whale
you just need to get creative
wintry stump
Well i guess she is a vroid model
I assume i can deadass just import any vrm model?
pulsar whale
indeed
i think vroid might be easy
you could give me a model right now, im quite bored right now anyway
ill do it live
wintry stump
wintry stump
I trust the process 🙏
OH WAIT SINCE THIS VRM I CAN USE THIS ON MY BEAT SABER
Wait that's off topic mb 😭😭
pulsar whale
wintry stump
Oh whattt
pulsar whale
this is ruined
jagged veldt
uhh well ive never done a character in this style before but since this game doesnt have real shading i shouldnt have to worry about much
wintry stump
Id prefer if you added the outlines LOL
pulsar whale
howabout we just "use" official mmd model?
jagged veldt
uvs are gonna suck doe
pulsar whale
that exists too you know
wintry stump
howabout we just "use" official mmd model?
Oh do those work?
pulsar whale
yeah, it may be a little tedious
plain crescent
Does vroid generate the same armature for each model? We can probably convert them automatically to match mita i think???
pulsar whale
but i can work with it, ive seen worse
wintry stump
I remember doing a long process for vrm to mmds lol
pulsar whale
if you want to see me struggle live, feel free
jagged veldt
does anyone have the nude shower mila model ripped
wintry stump
I can fw sparkle instead
pulsar whale
does anyone have the nude shower mila model ripped
i have but she's untextured
wintry stump
Are any of the nude models official?
jagged veldt
thats fine i dont need textures
pulsar whale
ok
jagged veldt
i just need a base to model clothes over
pulsar whale
let me rerip this again for you
jagged veldt
idk if i should make a new face or just edit mita's
itd save me a lot of time but i also dont really like mita's model
jagged veldt
ill just edit mita's i dont mind doing that
plain crescent
<@988798435190792212> he's in this one
Ohh i see, interesting, welp time to mess around with the explorer
pulsar whale
@jagged veldt
jagged veldt
tyty
pulsar whale
just scale mila up a bit and she's a perfect fit for all mita
very nice indeed
well, not perfect
jagged veldt
im gonna retexture this face and then i gotta do hair modeling Oogh
pulsar whale
but you get the idea
pulsar whale
wtf... mita if she got a total new makeup..
jagged veldt
i fixed a lot of things i didnt like about mita's facial structure and matched it to a sculpt i did of toki a while ago
at least as close as possible yk
i struggled to post that because this server has funky settings on
good neough
ill paint shadows after i do hair
smoky olive
It replaces but only if forced by pressing f5
pulsar whale
oh that makes sense though
it destroy when you leave
and it creates when you enter
well
it did cook
tired lion
has anyone uploaded a mita model in .obj format?
pulsar whale
why obj..
jagged veldt
lol?
pulsar whale
why not fbx.. dont make your life harder...
jagged veldt
i mean you can export obj from blender if you really need it
but you're sacrificing a lot using obj
tired lion
fbx too
plain crescent
Is that komi?
jagged veldt
ive never really made hair s
i forgot to finish my thought
ive never done hair with this style of shading before so its a bit funky
pulsar whale
NOO MY BODY
jagged veldt
this was obnoxious
i dont think this hair looks quite as accurate as i want it to but its as close as its gonna get without doing it by hand
pulsar whale
somewhat working but the clothes replacement doesnt work
i mustve done something wrong somewhere
mild idol
Can someone share me your file game including beplnex and mod to see if it work on winlator
jagged veldt
no because thats piracy
mild idol
I just want to test out if beplnex work on winlator if someone did it pls ping me
old abyss
Bepinex mod vrm avatar?
plain crescent
Alr mods are modular, now we need to tell modders 
plain crescent
we burnin the game down
smoky olive
ok tested, seems to work fine
jagged veldt
idk
tight bolt
pulsar whale
you see the pinned message?
plain crescent
...after the PR is accepted
Yeah maybe we should wait for your player replacement too, so the release won't get flooded
pulsar whale
Yeah maybe we should wait for your player replacement too, so the release won't ...
but it's having schizophrenia episode
sometimes it does work sometimes it doesn't
tight bolt
you see the pinned message?
We all know people are too lazy for that 
And checking it tnow
plain crescent
It's better than releasing a new version every single day
pulsar whale
its true...
jagged veldt
i gotta sit down and actually texture the body but i dont super feel like doing that rn
i also need to bake the hair cus its procedural atm
but this is feeling nice im pretty happy with this
this is my first time committing to a non shaded npr style
smoky olive
It's better than releasing a new version every single day
is it intentional?
smoky olive
will change it to `GetAddonConfig` or smth
GetAddonConfigs?
plain crescent
alr suree
smoky olive
or maybe GetAddonsConfig?
or even GetAddonsConfigs because as i see it reads all addons from all configs
smoky olive
reading is better probably
plain crescent
So should i push it again? Or you'll just change it?
smoky olive
you can push it
tired lion
<:agree:1128390651076169759>
thanks guys for help
pulsar whale
smoky olive
guys, whay do you think about that?
finite flare
what's this for
pulsar whale
this is good
smoky olive
probably logging for ShouldSkip look bad
smoky olive
command.args[2] = command.args[2].Replace(@"\\", @"\"); command.args[2] = string.Join("", command.args[2].Replace(@".\", string.Empty).SkipWhile(c => c == '.' || c == '\\'));
Definitely has to be a function
plain crescent
I still bothered abt shouldskip...
real flower
thanks guys for help
I love this kaguya
plain crescent
What abt something like this? idk kinda dumb
smoky olive
hmm, yeah shouldskip can be inside of these methods
tbh i feel like that continue after ShouldSkip had no sense, it must have been break
plain crescent
big 💝
prime nymph
i also need to bake the hair cus its procedural atm
Ayooo that looks nice
pastel lintel
I have installed now BepInEx and inside UniversalAssetLoader, now there is a thing with assets, how can i download more assets or things?
pulsar whale
Yeah, you need to download more mods
pastel lintel
And what ones?
I want to have so much assets as possible, but i only know how to install that, not what mods or assets i can where find-
pulsar whale
Try to look into #miside-mods and Nexus Mods
pastel lintel
And where can i see, if a mod is for this assets?
pastel lintel
Try to look into <#1131689641075028079> and Nexus Mods
Pls, one last answer ;
pastel lintel
thx!
smoky olive
this looks perfect now ,but remove command is still alive after deletion💀
pastel lintel
I still not understand where a mod is assets or not, i just want to have much assets what i can use to have a avatar what i like, but bc i am dumb i dont know what to make with universal assets loader, so can anyone maybe help me a bit, like to find a mod what i could use?
short iris
FIXED! A seamlessly edited 1 hour video of the Cappie dance song in 4k (featuring happy, yet emo Cappie). This took another 11 hours to render!
https://youtu.be/Gd7w7SAjDuU
smoky olive
no more trash logs after addon deactivation
plain crescent
Oooo niceeee. I wonder if we can keep mita original meshes and textures for restoring replace_mesh
plain crescent
No, i mean, automatically by UAL
pulsar whale
Ah, hm... good point
plain crescent
Some mods replace mita meshes permanently
pulsar whale
oh haha, yeah! i have no idea who could that be!!
pulsar whale
plain crescent
We all do, even I do that ngl
smoky olive
won't be that hard, but it might slow it down a bit
plain crescent
won't be that hard, but it might slow it down a bit
I'm thinking of limiting it only for the MenuScene.
Instead of replacing mita meshes directly, UAL will duplicate that meshes for backup
That way gameplay performance won't be fkd up
pulsar whale
yeah, since we only need that for menu anyway
long trail
-remove Player myself
smoky olive
-remove Player myself
Player not implemented yet 
long trail
then im already gone lol
pulsar whale
it sorta there
just doesnt work properly..
only arms replacement work... but remove is working
im still trying to understand create_skinned_appendix
...or replace_mesh for that matter
stark badger
smoky olive
Probably modders won't even need to bother with - commands anymore
should i merge your PR and then merge mine, or can i just create a PR to your fork and then merge it?
plain crescent
should i merge your PR and then merge mine, or can i just create a PR to your fo...
I think we should create a new branch for future updates, the main branch is for release.
smoky olive
true
plain crescent
What do you think Aoba?
pulsar whale
i agreed
smoky olive
we have dev branch now
smoky olive
no more trash logs after addon deactivation
and i pushed this into it
plain crescent
Cool, now i don't have to write sht abt any PR
Probably future releases need a proper changelog tho
pulsar whale
do i PR shapekeys order in your repo @plain crescent
since its not live on dev branch just yet
plain crescent
Alr, thank youuu 
ashen lichen
Hello everyone, im new here. Any idea to fix this one? Im using BepInEx and i followed every detail on many youtube video and still stuck on this part.
plain crescent
Are you bloking miside from your firewall or smth?
ashen lichen
Im not sure about that. I'll try later. Im outside
finite flare
Hello everyone, im new here. Any idea to fix this one? Im using BepInEx and i fo...
seems like you are timing out
ashen lichen
seems like you are timing out
Maybe my device is old so it stuck on this part
ashen lichen
Alright, Firewall doesnt affect this error because i turned off Firewall but still stuck. Maybe my old device so it cannot work
I gonna try other device like......... my school computer
trail iron
I might,,,try to model one of my VRM models over the player maybe
stark badger
Neck Exercises / 頸部運動
smoky olive
Alright guys now i think i can make MelonLoader Releases if needed
trail iron
How do i change the player model? I've seen only 2 mods for it lol
pulsar whale
hanako DONE!
finite flare
hanako DONE!
kind mita and hanako.. fits
cold forge
when is sex mod?
quiet basin
MiSide Zombie Mode
This is really cool, how was this done?
stark badger
var e = GameObject.Instantiate(enemyPrefab, new Vector3(-12.037f, -3.6816f, -88.1799f), Quaternion.identity);
e.GetComponent<Mob_Maneken>().enabled = true;
use one of enemy as prefab to spawn
Camera mainCamera = GlobalTag.cameraPlayer.GetComponent<Camera>();
if (mainCamera == null)
{
Plugin.Log.LogWarning("Main camera not found!");
return;
}
Vector3 centerScreenPosition = new Vector3(Screen.width / 2, Screen.height / 2, 0);
// Create a ray from the center of the screen
Ray ray = mainCamera.ScreenPointToRay(centerScreenPosition);
// Store hit information
if (Physics.Raycast(ray, out RaycastHit hit))
{
// Log the name of the hit GameObject
GameObject hitObject = hit.collider.gameObject;
Plugin.Log.LogWarning($"Hit GameObject: {hitObject.name}");
// Example: Add custom behavior to the hit object
if (hitObject != null)
{
if (hitObject.TryGetComponent<Mob_Maneken>(out var mobManeken))
{
// Destroy the game object if it has the Mob_Maneken component
GameObject.Destroy(hitObject);
}
}
else
{
Plugin.Log.LogWarning("No GameObject hit by the raycast.");
}
}
Very interesting! Is that a serious attempt at making a zombie mode? That's a cool idea honestly
stark badger
Very interesting! Is that a serious attempt at making a zombie mode? That's a co...
no just casual try
quiet basin
I use ChatGPT and Claude for coding, and ahh I see
stark badger
foreach (var x in GameObject.FindObjectsOfType<Mob_Maneken>())
{
x.speedNav = 2f;
}
also set enemy speed
Mob_Maneken.castPlayer seen player is true
true will can't move
i use cheat engine modify it always false
so see them still can move
quiet basin
Interesting
I would like to combine that with a teleporter somewhere in the game to add a zombie minigame
spiral citrus
Interesting
DI (if you can call it that) is done during scene initialization (In Start() since Maken doesn't know about Awake existing, which is why there are some framerate bugs)
So you can just load a new scene and doing everything that way
quiet basin
Ahh, understood, thanks for enlightening me
magic radish
modding tool has bene updated, anyone posted a compatible male working rig yet for mc?
its possible now to replace mc
pulsar whale
i have the rig since 0.9
but MC replacement is still under testing
@plain crescent i updated json, check if correct.
check 2c405f29aadb039cdad747d4f1d225594e3f4e3a if you want to see comments
otherwise, see this one instead
tulip herald
bro got lost
bold canyon
hey, im new to modding, does anyone know where I can lookup custom models/outfits by other people?
pulsar whale
usually #miside-mods and nexus
if you're interested to make one by your own, there's my tutorial on pinned
bold canyon
thanks :) for example Im looking for the Miku outfit Ive seen several times already but cant seem to find it anywhere
bold canyon
yeah found it, thanks for the help
smoky olive
Oh ho ho, yes. My UAL update works
finite flare
Oh ho ho, yes. My UAL update works
cooking
bold canyon
drowsy harness
can someone teach me how to download cj's voice on miside??
pulsar whale
ready to check @smoky olive
oh crap, yeah i need to er
add an example mod for mc replacement
pulsar whale
can someone teach me how to download cj's voice on miside??
do you have nexus account yet
drowsy harness
I already did it :)
pulsar whale
oh you mean, you already installed the voice mod
finite flare
add an example mod for mc replacement
just cj again, I am waiting to port over the postal dude
myself
pulsar whale
its quite weird
because remove Player doesn't seem to work
but creating appendix does
pulsar whale
well, we can also add another animator
which is "LimpingPerson", it's that blondie guy
smoky olive
true
pulsar whale
im done for today
smoky olive
add an example please
and i will test and try to fix it
i can probably try to add CatEars but they're not Skinned, so i won't be able to test that command
smoky olive
or you can send an example here
pulsar whale
long trail
@pulsar whale No way
pulsar whale
just because.
smoky olive
because `remove Player` doesn't seem to work
the commands turns it off before some animator turns it back on
pulsar whale
so that means...
smoky olive
we have to add something to Update to track all the removed objects???
magic radish
im done for today
do you have a template for Milia Aoba? and thanks
all templates and mods i download are all mitas, almost none for milia
magic radish
thanks aoba would appreciate it
pulsar whale
<@175689604664393728>
but you can use this as base, probably
im quite sure that it will work
ill do proper rip tomorrow
hazy walrus
Mod that lets me melee attack crazy Mita?
Mod that lets me SHOOT crazy Mita?
STOP REACTING WITH THAT YOU KNOW WE ALL NEED IT
SOCIETY REJECTS THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF RATIONAL THOUGHTS
smoky olive
ok fixed temporary by disabling Renderer component instead of object directly, maybe will just add a sub syntax in remove command compatible with previous versions
long trail
miside 5x30 workout mode when
mint dagger
rough hound
Guys, can anyone tell me why I can't write in console? I downloaded mod https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/191/?tab=description and to download it I had to install https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/57. Mods worked, but now I can't write in console.
upper egret
pastel plaza
plain crescent
Oh ho ho, yes. My UAL update works
Damnnn we're cooking
We cook this game to dust
I'll try to make the auto recover mita mesh feature, need some time to brainstorm the optimized algorithm.
smoky olive
if you replace thisrenderers[mita.name + command.args[1]].gameObject.SetActive(false); with renderers[mita.name + command.args[1]].enabled = false; (same for staticRenderers) in ApplyRemoveCommand you can make remove command work
plain crescent
Oh yeah what's the difference? I see that SetActive will just disabled them, not actually deleting them
smoky olive
but it kinda changes the logic of this command so probably should:
add new command called removeComponent
OR
add some additional features to remove command
plain crescent
Nahh i think I'll just create a backup for all mita meshes before patching anything
smoky olive
Oh yeah what's the difference? I see that SetActive will just disabled them, not...
it turned the GameObject off before but after that change it would turn off the Renderer component
plain crescent
Hmmm i see, interesting
smoky olive
Nahh i think I'll just create a backup for all mita meshes before patching anyth...
we can just add additional folder and store all ripped assets there
plain crescent
we can just add additional folder and store all ripped assets there
It's not an option, imagine if devs update the mita model
smoky olive
It's not an option, imagine if devs update the mita model
well then all the mods will break anyway
plain crescent
True 
At least that auto recovery thing will still work
smoky olive
https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/57
only those would survive cause they use AssetBundles
plain crescent
Mods apocalypse 
solemn crane
guys, what is the difference between create_static_appendix and create_skinned_appendix?
long trail
no clue, id like to know too
plain crescent
I might be wrong but those are treated differently by the game
Skinned is something that needs frequent calculation updates, something that can move around
For example, mita is skinned because she has some animation and needs mesh deformation
But the rooms are static since it's just there, they won't get anywhere nor deformed
solemn crane
So, objects without physics and deformation (like a hair clip) can be made using static appendix?
plain crescent
Yup pretty much, even cat ears are static since they just sit on mita head, they don't have any deformation
solemn crane
Thnx
quiet basin
Can you have both Universal Asset Loader and Custom Model Loader at the same time without issues?
I see this is why I ask
I think there's something wrong with my game LOL, as soon as Mila fell next to me in-game, this happened (This is me flying out of bounds and seeing the map scene below me)
plain crescent
Oh yeah that happens to me too. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, UAL needs some time to update mita while the game itself is still running in different threads, player already get rendered but room collision hasn't
quiet basin
That's really weird lol
plain crescent
No that's normal actually
quiet basin
Or at least, the end-result is weird
Yeah I mean, it makes sense that it's normal, I just mean the result looks funky
robust vapor
Will the game ever get a sequel
jagged veldt
idk man why u asking us we just make mods
long trail
I see this is why I ask
What mode?
quiet basin
What mode?
Universal Asset Loader and Custom Model Loader + Dokis/DDLC mod
magic radish
anyone else made mc mods yet
long trail
Universal Asset Loader and Custom Model Loader + Dokis/DDLC mod
thx
quiet basin
Np
magic radish
i swear ill just replace these with dummy mesh soon enough..
i downloaded the cj mod and put it in plugin models, but cj dont appear as player, that normal?
plain crescent
i downloaded the cj mod and put it in plugin models, but cj dont appear as play...
UAL hasn't updated yet
We're still working on it
magic radish
Oh i see thanks
solemn crane
If I want to create a custom hairstyle from scratch that animates when moving, is there anything I need to consider besides what Aoba did in his guide?
plain crescent
I haven't watched aoba guide, but the only rules for now are you can't mess with mita armature
Welp most of the time i just transfer the weight from mita Hair
Just hope someone in the future is care enough to implement custom bones.
I really like how SEGA is doing with custom bones through skin_param.txt for each model, but I haven't figured out how tf did they generate params
long trail
Has anyone downloaded the mod for Hutao from Genshin?
plain crescent
twilit tartan
fr
twilit tartan
Has anyone downloaded the mod for Hutao from Genshin?
im the mod author
is something broken?
long trail
im the mod author
My translator can't answer you, sorry.
solemn crane
After seeing the top mods on nexus, I’m sure no one can save this world anymore
pulsar whale
good morning, i just lose faith in humanity
jagged veldt
lol
long trail
good morning, i just lose faith in humanity
what happened now 😦
trail iron
is there a way to lower the players camera?
Not very important, just out of curiousity.
long trail
maybe tampering with the player's scale?
if the camera is parented to something within the player, that should move the camera down
trail iron
how would i go about that?
I know there's a mod for it, but it just doesn't function
sharp matrix
Just a question... I am not good with modding and stuff, but can someone extract the menu video (without the menu itself.) I'd like to use it for Wallpaper Engine. Not too sure how to extract it.
sharp matrix
@jagged veldtActually that makes sense... Would there be a way to toggle the menu buttons off then? So I could get a recording?
plain crescent
<@175689604664393728>Actually that makes sense... Would there be a way to toggle...
sharp matrix
Yo, that's really useful! That's an in-game console, I assume?
Thank you for making me aware of this.
I apoligize for being smooth brain to all of this, really
jagged veldt
dw bout it bro
sharp matrix
Just launched it, figured out it's the ~ button
Thanks for showing me how to do this, I really appreciate it
plain crescent
i see..
Differentiate them from codes is a challenge
I can't just use Find lmao
prime nymph
plain crescent
Alr, my mods doesn't even have any disactivation command but disabling them are just works
pulsar whale
Walter White
long trail
Well damn I look at the mods and I already see a Hu Tao mod lmao
It's only a matter of time before someone makes a foxgirl mod
thick maple
Anybody know how to get the sound effects for when Mita is talking? Specifically the ones when the voice over is turned off? (Or when 2D Mita talks?)
pulsar whale
trail iron
"FOLLOW THE DAMN MITA, CJ!"
tired lion
trail iron
<:mitahorny:1134996882435874896>
pulsar whale
also i think the head will only render if we replace the whole thing
i mean HeadMirror/HairMirror
i mean in mirror it will still be working, but not on freecam/photo mode
so that's something to note
tired lion
🤯
tired lion
ooooooh thanks
mortal notch
Ayo why does mita has 2 Sweater in MenuScene
what mod adds this menu?
tired lion
BepInEx
mortal notch
i have bepinex, what button do i press to open that menu
mortal notch
im pressing it and nothing happened, do i need to enable the console like in source?
tired lion
is vanilla have this functional?
pulsar whale
yeah
pulsar whale
im pressing it and nothing happened, do i need to enable the console like in sou...
do you have language changer binded to that button?
mortal notch
i dont think so?
harsh ridge
i dont think so?
hold ~
tired lion
yeah hold
mortal notch
oh you have to hold it
plain crescent
It's not yeeting another mods anymore
And didn't affect performance at all
plain crescent
Oh yeah.. some mitas shared their orders
pulsar whale
yeah i added a few exceptions like Longer
plain crescent
Should we add each of them in the json or just take mita orders if the keys weren't found?
pulsar whale
just use "Mita" as standard
plain crescent
what are you gonna do with the er
The function already uses that json, and it's supposedly working, but rist just yeeted my PR lmao
pulsar whale
because this is "True" shapekey:
"True": [
"ManiacPupils",
"Blink",
"Key 17",
"Key 18",
"Key 19",
"EyesSquints",
"Key 20",
"Key 22",
"EyesAngry",
"Key 23",
"Key 24",
"Key 25",
"Key 27",
"SmileSmall",
"SmileMiddle",
"Key 28",
"Smile :>",
"SmileBig",
"SmileStrange",
"SmileManiac",
"SmileManiacBig",
"SmileTricky",
"Key 26",
"Key 29",
"A Smile",
"Key 30",
"AnnoyMiddle",
"Key 31",
"Key 32",
"A",
"O",
"Key 33",
"Key 34",
"Key 35",
"Key 36",
"Key 37",
"Key 38",
"Key 39",
"Key 40",
"Key 41",
],
a lot of placeholder aint it
i guess the developer was right about "the end was rushed"
plain crescent
twilit tartan
💀
pulsar whale
also there's BlackScreen Mita
im pretty sure that is referenced to er... the one in Be Candid
it doesnt have the "w" shapekey
plain crescent
It is, I thought it was ordinary mita
pulsar whale
but other than that, it doesnt have anything interesting
plain crescent
Cappie and kind shares their shape keys with crazy huh...
This is something to talk about with the game lore
pulsar whale
yes, they all shared the same
sleepy, cappie, kind, shorthair
they used the same shapekeys
including the one that i didnt mention
plain crescent
Alr, it must be some kind of inheritance or something, but this is interesting
pulsar whale
i was thinking the original mita is in the "BlackScreen", its probably the old version
since she doesnt have "w" shapekey
or maybe "Longer" since she only has 2 shapekeys
"Longer": [
"Blink",
"SmileStrange"
],
(it is the lost mita in the backrooms)
plain crescent
```
"Longer": [
"Blink",
"SmileStrange"
],
```
Woa i thought her facial expressions were just straight up her mesh since the player 'can't' see her
pulsar whale
player will only see her when it is a fresh save state
if player already turned into cartridge, then she won't appear
i can take a look at it again though, i needed to make sure.
smoky olive
https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362
If you use no keywords, all will be used by default, so you don't have to write it everywhere
plain crescent
Anyway @smoky olive i think some of the commands functions can be merged.
For example, we can join ApplyRemoveCommand with ApplyRecoverCommand to ToggleCommand
Since it just toggles the mesh.
Do you want me to refactor this?
pulsar whale
oh wait wait, can we add keyword into Player function?
since limpingperson is in sharedasset9 and shared same skeleton with player
plain crescent
If you use no keywords, all will be used by default, so you don't have to write ...
No, it was that auto recovery thing, not an addons config error
smoky olive
Anyway <@503446008647122955> i think some of the commands functions can be merge...
Not sure if this is a good idea
smoky olive
since limpingperson is in sharedasset9 and shared same skeleton with player
You can try to use limp
plain crescent
oh wait wait, can we add keyword into `Player` function?
Seems like so?
The options are :
Populate the json
Or
Hardcore the keys replacement
pulsar whale
hardcode is maybe a good idea for now
unless peaceful mode decided to add more players...
plain crescent
Not sure if this is a good idea
Alr I'll leave them
smoky olive
hardcode is maybe a good idea for now
If you mean usual keywords, not connected to blendshapes, then it must work out of the box
plain crescent
If all the players do share the Shapekeys, you can just use 'Player' as blendShapeName parameter for BuildMesh
pulsar whale
yes, that's exactly what i commented in shapekeys json
plain crescent
pulsar whale
do you plan to update code any time soon in dev branch? or you're going to take it
because the conflict
smoky olive
Where is the conflict?
pulsar whale
nah there isnt any yet
plain crescent
I think i can push it right now
smoky olive
Do it
plain crescent
Alr i already push it
smoky olive
plain crescent
Thank god main is protected
smoky olive
plain crescent
pulsar whale
we when git reset HEAD~1 --hard and git push --force
smoky olive
d......eactivation
plain crescent
d......eactivation
The only real typo are 'faet' lmao
plain crescent
FindPlayer() dead...
I didn't even know that existed lmaooo
twilit tartan
we when `git reset HEAD~1 --hard` and `git push --force`
me
while struggling with using git for the first time
smoky olive
The only real typo are 'faet' lmao
Why command.args[2] when there is textureKey 3 lines before
crude charm
It would be nice for a steam workshop to appear in the game, I asked MakenCat about it, and he told me that he hadn't tried to figure it out yet and didn't know if he would add it. Do you think it's difficult to add a steam workshop to the game?
plain crescent
Why command.args[2] when there is textureKey 3 lines before
pulsar whale
we all schizo now..
smoky olive
It would be nice for a steam workshop to appear in the game, I asked MakenCat ab...
Yes for a game with such an unstructured code
pulsar whale
it will take quite some time to integrate workshop in
wait
why dont we rebind bones?
that way we can have custom skeleton too, right?
or im just too stupid to understand unity
probably the latter
pulsar whale
we can probably just:
var bones = skinnedMeshRenderer.bones;
skinnedMeshRenderer.sharedMesh.bindposes = newMesh.bindposes;
skinnedMeshRenderer.rootBone = skinnedMeshRenderer.rootBone;
the physics are auto calculated by game
we dont have to worry about that
plain crescent
pulsar whale
im quite certain we can make UAL use someone hair too
i have to think how
meaning we can use kind mita hair for example for crazy mita
smoky olive
we can probably just:
```
var bones = skinnedMeshRenderer.bones;
...
There will be a problem with conversion
pulsar whale
what conversion..........
smoky olive
Unity bindposes are in different format
crude charm
Yes for a game with such an unstructured code
Steam workshop for creating levels is probably going to be very difficult to add, but just at least skins like this in Left 4 dead 2 replacing the character model ? Will there be difficulties with this too ? I'm sorry, I don't understand much about development, I'm just wondering what the probability of adding it is.
plain crescent
"you need to take the character to blender and fix everything there by using the tools that app have. unity is not made to do this"
smoky olive
Steam workshop for creating levels is probably going to be very difficult to add...
It shouldn't be that hard, maybe...
pulsar whale
but that's the source engine
we're talking unity here
developers have to add some native support of model thing
im sure of it, there's gonna be a way to make this into the game
smoky olive
You can always use unity AssetBundles
pulsar whale
yeah but its too much of a hassle
plain crescent
Meanwhile this is what SEGA is doing to support (physics) custom bones
plain crescent
pulsar whale
they probably have their own join/skeleton generation
smoky olive
public static Matrix4x4 ToUnityMatrix(Assimp.Matrix4x4 assimpMatrix) { return new Matrix4x4( new Vector4(assimpMatrix.A1, assimpMatrix.B1, assimpMatrix.C1, assimpMatrix.D1), new Vector4(assimpMatrix.A2, assimpMatrix.B2, assimpMatrix.C2, assimpMatrix.D2), new Vector4(assimpMatrix.A3, assimpMatrix.B3, assimpMatrix.C3, assimpMatrix.D3), new Vector4(assimpMatrix.A4, assimpMatrix.B4, assimpMatrix.C4, assimpMatrix.D4) ); }
pulsar whale
smoky olive
https://pastebin.com/gmK5CHuQ
pulsar whale
mhm
smoky olive
Did you try this code out?
jagged veldt
maybe if you're popular enough or do it enough
that 20 bucks is built up over the span of like 2 years lolol
i just now cashed out
plain crescent
Pass
Does this white line updates based on ObjectName? a custom skinned mesh doesn't seem to have any stroke.
pulsar whale
yes
meaning: sweater, body, skirt, head, hair, etc etc
will have white outline
see the message up here
mild idol
Hello everyone, im new here. Any idea to fix this one? Im using BepInEx and i fo...
https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/57?tab=bugs
I found this guy have similar problem to your and he already solve it maybe give it a try
ashen lichen
Alright, i'll try... once im go home
pulsar whale
how is that any different?
mild idol
Alright, i'll try... once im go home
Let me know if you done it
ashen lichen
Let me know if you done it
Ok
uneven shore
plain crescent
hmm object outline can be changed, maybe we can workaround with this white stroke thing
plain crescent
That's also a good idea ngl
pulsar whale
but that means create_skinned_appendix needs no outline tag or something
or maybe something like a command to set outline color
like outline_mesh ModelObject FFFFFF
part 9 of aryrk forgetting Player function
might have to merge them soon enough
plain crescent
man
pulsar whale
FindModel()
PatchModel()
plain crescent
Alr I'll see them
Wait what should i do abt player function again?
Basically what i do is create a backup for mita meshes, so mods can easily get deactivated without using - commands
Does player mods even need this?
plain crescent
So? Let's merge your changes
I'm sure there won't be any conflict, or at least won't be much.
plain crescent
Basically what i do is create a backup for mita meshes, so mods can easily get d...
'-' command is still work btw, they get executed after my method.
Maybe modders want to troll ppl by deleting mita meshes after deactivating, idk, they can
Wait, the outline is not a shader property
plain crescent
and what is that cappie.
Idk i just use the 'all' args
Yeah this is kinda cool, imagine a raiden mod with this
pulsar whale
yesss radioactive mita
index might love this
we should totally look into the ring stuff
it has scrolling number
plain crescent
Yeah... I noticed that even if i replace the outline value, some animation just resets it
finite flare
index might love this
I do
stark badger
pulsar whale
why are you still on 0.9
plain crescent
Yeah ik
I'm talking abt mod specific shader property
Core mita replacement for example, doesn't have an eye glow, well maybe with this mod specific shaders property they can mess around with the params as if modifying the material itself
finite flare
Core mita replacement for example, doesn't have an eye glow, well maybe with thi...
god I would love to have the glow work
ashen lichen
Let me know if you done it
Damn, still wont work. Anti virus and firewall were disabled and it still timed out. I think my old bone device so it wont work. I should give up because i have no time. Anyway, Thank for the help
ashen lichen
Ok i'll wait
pulsar whale
BepInEx for people who have problem with their internet connection for whatever reason.
ashen lichen
Thank. I gonna do it later because i have dinner.
Look like i have my" second chance"
Or prehap not (if i failed again)
plain crescent
god I would love to have the glow work
Yeah i bet it will be cool.
I'm not sure what is the best way to implement this tough...
Maybe with a custom shader_params.txt, or .json, or .yaml?
Then we need to specify the params for each mesh, inside addons_config.txt
shader_param Mita CoreEye Core/Core_params
How does that sound?
pulsar whale
we're using addons_config.txt
that means we have to make extra json in there then if we wanna go advanced or whatever
finite flare
there is about 51 point lights
so I'd have to specify all of their positions ? I assume
finite flare
plain crescent
pulsar whale
yeah, deranged mesh
finite flare
doesn't helped I moved the arms and etc
drifting saddle
Ouch
tulip herald
is there a mod that prevents your photo mode from being locked? (like in certain cutscenes)
finite flare
I thought it was some kind of mesh with some emissions material
welp
plain crescent
is there a mod that prevents your photo mode from being locked? (like in certain...
Isn't photo mode already locked in cutscenes?
pulsar whale
i think i saw a mod on nexus to restore photo mode everywhere
tulip herald
Isn't photo mode already locked in cutscenes?
yeah so I wanna unlock it lol
tulip herald
i think i saw a mod on nexus to restore photo mode everywhere
got the name?
pulsar whale
pulsar whale
@drifting saddle we're free from unity jail
MC replacement is now possible with UAL
release soon be soon enough
drifting saddle
<@339903438257258506> we're free from unity jail
YEEEES
One step closer to implementing my punk cappie mod
plain crescent
Omgh can't wait to see it ingame
pulsar whale
@pseudo atlas ill teach you when im done with this UAL release
they wanted mita as MC
drifting saddle
Omgh can't wait to see it ingame
I'm gonna have to entirely change her personality and animations if I do
But one thing at a time
pulsar whale
man if we gonna do custom animation... we have to go back to unity jail again...
finite flare
One step closer to implementing my punk cappie mod
oh so it's you modelling this, had someone share this with me on my server lol gj
pulsar whale
we need new idle animation patch for sure
drifting saddle
oh so it's you modelling this, had someone share this with me on my server lol g...
Yep Baddie is coming
plain crescent
I'm gonna make mita do this if we can replace animation
pulsar whale
LUKA NOO
do you know what i would do first when i replace animation? make entire MV from it
finite flare
MC replacement is now possible with UAL
finally I can port postal dude
drifting saddle
I'd rather do Duke nukem.
pulsar whale
chew gum
drifting saddle
Yall doing God's work with unity, im super pumped.
pulsar whale
new update should also be able to have its own addons_config
finite flare
finally
plain crescent
Yeah the next update will have a bunch of new things
We need a proper changelog for sure💀
pulsar whale
We should use DEGMods for submission https://degmods.com/game/MiSide Nexus sucks and we all know it
this doesnt require registration to download and we can have our own download links
finite flare
this was a disastrous change
pulsar whale
🙂↕️
he true
if we gonna use site, please at least pick the site that is EASY to upload and download
plain crescent
Why can't we just post to miside-mods ourselves? Just make sure everyone follows the text format.
Maybe we can separate the channels based on mod type or something
pulsar whale
or that as well
charred marten
guys i need help
pulsar whale
like mods-submission channel for example
then moderator gets to pick mod of the day or whatever
how can we help you? @charred marten
plain crescent
guys i need help
charred marten
how can we help you? <@1131649540932509726>
how can i enter a mod in miside
pulsar whale
what mod are you trying to import?
pulsar whale
charred marten
thank you
ashen lichen
Yep.... second chance failed. Still error about running out of time. Well i think i gonna enjoy normally with skins like this...
pulsar whale
i dont get it, show me the console
i tested the following zip with no internet connection
works just fine
the real question is, why are you still using 0.921 anyway
smoky olive
@pulsar whale give me some mesh to test the bones pls
pulsar whale
who, player? mita?
smoky olive
anyone but better mita
pulsar whale
smoky olive
this is working mesh, right?
smoky olive
tbh i'm not sure what i'm trying to test but will test working ones first then
pulsar whale
one of the sample model i did long time ago
its still kickin'
oh damn i just rolled 1 in 450
smoky olive
@plain crescent why?
pulsar whale
but its in PR request long ago..
smoky olive
what is .fbxMesh
pulsar whale
stark badger
https://thunderstore.io/c/miside/
Can upload mod to thunderstore
Maybe CDN r2modman can't see miside now
pseudo atlas
<@499222216433467392> ill teach you when im done with this UAL release
FHANK YOU
pulsar whale
https://thunderstore.io/c/miside/
Can upload mod to thunderstore
Maybe CDN r2mod...
now this IS the thing for modding
pulsar whale
@smoky olive since we're patching player as well that means.... we also need to edit ApplyReplaceMeshCommand and others
because it still uses mita.name
pulsar whale
and we need to add shapekeys argument into it
or at least make if keyword "Broke", "Little" use this set of blendshape
if type == "Player" then use player
some sort of thing
smoky olive
public static UnityEngine.Mesh BuildMesh(Assimp.Mesh fbxMesh, ArmatureData armature = null, bool addBlendShape = false, string blendShapeName = "Mita")
probably we can make addBlendShape true by default and we can get blendShapeName from characters name
wind knoll
Hey can anyone please tell me how to open this menu?
magic radish
hopefully someone made MC mod and Milia mod soon for nexus thats work with the model loader
pulsar whale
yeah rihgt.....................
smoky olive
pulsar whale
NOOOO MAYA
drifting saddle
stark badger
ahahhahahahha, wtf have i done
smoky olive
signal flume
if someone makes a mita skin with dolphin shorts, ill give them a kiss.
stark badger
Seem need to wait CDN cache
ThunderStore upload usually need to 1 hours can seen on r2modman
pseudo atlas
or know what blender is
I would have it installed but uh my laptop is uh out of comission
inland bolt
Bruh what the hell 😭
inland bolt
If I see this in my dreams I'm honestly gonna die
smoky olive
If I see this in my dreams I'm honestly gonna die
solemn crane
ahahhahahahha, wtf have i done
Finally a horror update for the game
smoky olive
trail iron
I need for figure out how to put my VRM model over the MC-
vocal hedge
Thank you for pinning some of the modding resources
Now I may be able to try putting shrek in the game somehow
trail iron
well, yeah, i have desktop mate. i'm using Miku.
I meant for MiSide. Putting my silly girl over the MC.
stark badger
well, yeah, i have desktop mate. i'm using Miku.
I meant for MiSide. Putting my...
MC is what
Minecraft?
trail iron
main character. the protagonist.
Mita had a girl want her once, she will have it again
trail iron
Use UAL?
https://github.com/Rist8/MiSide-UniversalAssetLoader
i thought that was only for Mita?
trail iron
Or i can bother the devs enough to let us play as Player 4 /j
stark badger
Or use unity build as AssetBundle and use BepinEx code load into game
Code you want
smoky olive
i thought that was only for Mita?
work in progress
trail iron
work in progress
WAHOO
smoky olive
it is kinda ready to release
trail iron
can i try it out?
smoky olive
well, if anyone ask you about the scariest mod for miside this will be it
trail iron
is that what happened to player 4
smoky olive
*can i try it out?*
ok i'll just release it now
trail iron
holy peak
i'll have to learn blender and stuff, my model is only a VRM from VRoid rn, lmao.
solemn crane
well, if anyone ask you about the scariest mod for miside this will be it
I want to see this in the chainsaw scene
smoky olive
I want to see this in the chainsaw scene
it is just 100% broken in the game
only the legs work as intended
because they're not changed
solemn crane
it is just 100% broken in the game
trail iron
look at her mita would love her
trail iron
now to figure out how to do models n stuff
smoky olive
now to figure out how to do models n stuff
here's an example
trail iron
woah
stiff frigate
there already a mod that replaces the normal crazy mita with the final form crazy mita? ||with the skin on one side of the face being scratched off exposing a red glowing eye and the messy hair||
smoky olive
somebody know how to repair that?
might be incorrect location of ellen assets
dark trail
okey never mind, I got it
trail iron
here's an example
i'd put this in the UAL? or somewhere else
dark trail
but Thx for help
smoky olive
i'd put this in the UAL? or somewhere else
trail iron
NEVERMIDFN IT WORKED
now all i need to do is unwrap her and the female mc will be mine
plain crescent
<@988798435190792212> why?
Huh? I didn't change it to fbxmesh
https://github.com/aryrk/MiSide-UniversalAssetLoader/commit/b5563fbc4295f8f67ce5e9d4d9028f4260abc75b
It's fbx in that pr
smoky olive
my fault, ctrl + F killed it
plain crescent
smoky olive
plain crescent
Don't release it yet, i want to mess around with the shader. Hopefully we can import a custom shader
smoky olive
Don't release it yet, i want to mess around with the shader. Hopefully we can im...
i just created a PR so that people will see we are doing something
smoky olive
Don't release it yet, i want to mess around with the shader. Hopefully we can im...
did you see my physics testing result?
plain crescent
well, if anyone ask you about the scariest mod for miside this will be it
This one?
plain crescent
Ah i see...
It's kinda work(?) i can see her hand thingy move around when you shake her
trail iron
exploding trying to get the model to unwrap correctly
it really doesn't want her skirt to be included ffs
smoky olive
trail iron
atp i might be better replacing mc with Mita and just saying it's player 4
actually that could maybe work, if i figure it out
because i don't think this will work
at all.
plain crescent
Has anyone already tested blendshape for player replacement? Because rn blendshape will only be generated if the command arg is Head
replace_mesh Mita Head
Or maybe I'll just add an or statement to generate blendshape if the mesh itself have them.
plain crescent
pulsar whale
because i don't think *this* will work
at all.
this image triggered something on back of my head
koikatsu, my arch nemesis
pulsar whale
did keyword system just break
and i feel like the new changes breaks something
yeah what the hell
it works on menu but not here
plain crescent
yeah what the hell
Oh yeah my belle mods are also missing a leg in here
Something off abt args
plain crescent
Oh nooo something broken
Also this is definitely something, it was totally fine yesterday lmao, 10.3 is also fine
pulsar whale
yeah, i feel like commit d7ed4eb317c5c457e5be615f0d959c787153588e breaks it
well maybe no
plain crescent
Could it be 3c3d406767cba2970f437c599fa6e44af7c91dbb?
plain crescent
We need further investigation, I'm pretty sure my belle was working just fine last night 
plain crescent
I also didn't mess around with any commands args
twilit tartan
suboptimal
plain crescent
<:CatDespair:1127206188388470794>
Can you try this Aoba?
that was 24648aedcf18e73d960e88059fdfe5c8b2c50bf8
pulsar whale
yes sir
plain crescent
My belle works just fine, the bones are not fked at that commit
plain crescent
that's mean rist commit was the culprit
d7ed4eb317c5c457e5be615f0d959c787153588e for the bones
and 3c3d406767cba2970f437c599fa6e44af7c91dbb for the args
pulsar whale
so my hunch was right then
plain crescent
RIst gonna love this