miside-mods-discussion

[keen halo]

quick question, what works with the game since it's IL2Cpp

UnityInjector?
Melon Loader?
BepInEx? (tailored for mono but idk if anyone pulled of something)

thinking of modifying scripts for controls and camera

[pulsar whale]

BepInEx

[finite flare]

bepinex for sure, isn't melon loader for NR ?

[keen halo]

thanks for the answer, also i got confused between Bep and Melon so just decided to ask here straight away

[restive siren]

still no new tab

[runic python]

She's eating more carefully.

[old quail]

Did anyone here already know that one of the earlier demo's for MiSide used to be in Mono?

it was purposefully switched over to il2cpp for both the latest demo and the final release

[mint dagger]

помоему это уже дурка

[pulsar whale]

https://tenor.com/view/court-cat-uncanny-cat-black-and-white-gif-16353232234208002921

[twilit tartan]

@shut acorn nice mod

[shut acorn]

Thanks

My first one :3

[pulsar whale]

aye

nice one lad

[shut acorn]

By the way I continued just using the export scale of 0.01, for some reason it just worked

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe it's my Blender version? I'm on 4.3.1

[pulsar whale]

im on 4.3.2

yet i still dont have any problem with it

[shut acorn]

I guess it's just one of those life's great mysteries lol

[pulsar whale]

i personally use 2.79

i used 4.3.2 to teach people but i dont encounter those problem

are you sure you applied scale and stuff to mesh?

armature should be almost irrelevant here

[shut acorn]

I did, that's why I'm so confused

[runic python]

Is there any easy way to do this? I don't understand what they're showing. What buttons do they press, how do they highlight textures with clicks, why do they have several objects and I have one. Why is everything so complicated?

[shut acorn]

From how it seems from your video you are almost there. Materials are applied. Now you have to tell those materials to use the textures you have

[pulsar whale]

damn i cant believe siddly is gone

[shut acorn]

?

[pulsar whale]

he was a modder

created tiny mita restoration mod

and created MC replacement mod once

i used to guide him with stuff

[waxen vault]

what happen

[shut acorn]

So you'll need to set up each one of those materials like this basically

Damm that's a big shame : \

[runic python]

I didn't upload my video, I'm at the very beginning. I'm already watching the 4th video tutorial and I still don't understand. They somehow click on the model and the texture scan is immediately displayed in the next window. But this doesn't happen for me. I click the same thing but it doesn't happen the same way as in the video. I can't understand anything.

[finite flare]

I am on 4.3.2

[shut acorn]

It doesn't happen because those materials you have don't have textures associated with them. The FBX files already contain UV mapping, all you need to do is tell them to use those images.

See the image I sent.

Go into shading, in the materials tab for the object select one of the materials. Replicate the node map in my image, put the appropriate texture in the image slot:

This will not work if you modified the UV mappings

If this doesn't work for you at all then, I don't really know how to help you : \

[shut acorn]

Whack. Tbh at this point I don't really care why for me it works at 0.01 scale only, because... well... it works

[humble pier]

First time modding, decided to change the outfit with BepInEx

[finite flare]

you don't need to use bepinex to change texture of this

[humble pier]

Oh, well, I tried adding the skin without it and I just got ghost Mita

[runic python]

Why is this happening? Why do I have one grid displayed on top of the other? And it deforms when moving. How do I combine everything on a new combined texture if everything is deformed there?

[cosmic delta]

how do i use mods on steam? im trying to use bepinex
using pngloader as a way to try and use a mod, i've already got mods that work for changing clothing texture, just trying to figure out how to get pngloader to work

[shut acorn]

Mita consists of multiple parts, each with its own UV mapping to the corresponding texture: hair has one map, dress has another, etc. If you expand that you'll see that it has multiple child objects under it

If you want to map all of it so a single texture you'll need to combine all the textures into one, and then manually remap each UV map, at least I don't know any better way

The UV map is "the grid"

So you'll need to combine all the textures into a single PNG using image editing software, and then map each parts grids separately to it

[runic python]

So there are two grids superimposed on each other. Two identical grids, one on top of the other

[shut acorn]

Most mods that are straight retextures go into \MiSide\Data\Custom other mods mostly use BepInEx and Universal Asset Loader. In the case of the latter, you need those two and the mod would go into \MiSide\BepInEx\plugins\UniversalAssetLoader\Assets\

No idea about pngloader

[shut acorn]

That's because most of these models are mirrored and use the same texture for left and right. So the left hand and right hand are mirror version of each other, thus occupy the same area on the texture

[runic python]

Well, how do I place them neatly on the same canvas, even if it's a big problem to move them. Sometimes, when selecting one grid, the second one clings and deforms, you need to zoom in a lot to carefully select only one of the grids.

I'm trying to move them all outside of the texture and then try to halve them and bring them back. But if there are 2-4 copies of one grid, then I'm afraid it will take me too much time and I'm not sure if I can then combine the overlaid grids.

[shut acorn]

You could probably just unwrap all of them, it should separate them. Select all of the grid (press A) and then unwrap

This will probably break the current texturing

[runic python]

This is the worst thing I have ever done.

[shut acorn]

I mean jumping into the deep end of Blender like this is unadviced

[cosmic delta]

😭

do mods mostly work on the demo version or does it work on the steam version? i bought the game full price and not the demo so

[shut acorn]

No, mods mostly work with the full version

[cosmic delta]

gotcha, i'll try and figure out how to use pngloader somehow

[shut acorn]

I made my first mod for this game just today so I'm unexperienced af xD

All I really did was add a hat and change textures around

[cosmic delta]

yea, i don't really know how to do textures and stuff

i do mod some games but never actually create them, just take them off gamebanana or nexus

and those games mostly have their own launchers

and aren't steam oriented

[runic python]

I don't know any other way to do this.

[shut acorn]

I mean Steam doesn't affect the modding of this game at all, you just need to place the mods in correct folders as each mod instructs. Basically no automatic mod installation

[cosmic delta]

i just want to figure out how to remove the skirt, it's the only thing that i could find that doesn't involve textures, i'm gonna keep the skirt on tho since it's changed hella by my mods

[shut acorn]

I mean, to my understanding it really is the only way, unless you want to use a different 3D software

[shut acorn]

https://github.com/Rist8/MiSide-UniversalAssetLoader
Universal Assets Loader actually comes with remove skirt option as default since you it is needed for debug reasons anyway. Also any mods that change anything besides textures need this

[cosmic delta]

oh alr

i got the one that as in the actual channel

do i just unzip in miside local files

[shut acorn]

No. Just follow the guide in the readme
https://github.com/Rist8/MiSide-UniversalAssetLoader?tab=readme-ov-file#installation-guide--руководство-по-установке

[runic python]

This software is counterintuitive and does not know how to do the simplest operations at all. Take 4 pictures, combine them with a chessboard and place the grid accordingly. It's the simplest operation and you have to do it manually.

[cosmic delta]

ty

[shut acorn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[finite flare]

not hard at all tbh

could do it in a few mins top

[runic python]

I haven't been able to do this for 3 hours now.

[finite flare]

send me files

[runic python]

How do I compress a grid horizontally by exactly two?

[cosmic delta]

@shut acorn dms rq

[finite flare]

so just combine in a grid right

[runic python]

There are 3 1024x1024 textures and one 2048x2048
We need to combine them into one picture somehow.

[finite flare]

there is 5 meshes

[shut acorn]

He basically wants all of the meshes to call onto the same texture map

[finite flare]

ye ik

[finite flare]

got room to spare

[runic python]

What is the texture resolution? Has the quality been lost?

[finite flare]

up to you what you set the resolution to, but it will fit in a 1:1 resolution for sure

[runic python]

There are also three 1024p textures and one 2048p, which is twice as much.

[finite flare]

blender crashed for me xdd

hold a sec

[runic python]

If the original texture size is 1024 and I double it, the soap will work. Or not?

[finite flare]

I will scale all the uvs by 0.50

ok?

[runic python]

Damn, I don't know. Take off the texture, I'll check it

I wanted to glue it together like that. The skin texture is twice as detailed, so I allocated more space for it.

But it's one thing to glue pictures together in a paint, and it's quite another to put a grid on them.

[finite flare]

@runic python have fun

8k uv map

you can scale it to any size you want

[runic python]

Is this the mask that I should put the texture under?

[finite flare]

yes match the textures

all UVs are scaled by exactly 0.50

so you just have to match the textures under

[runic python]

Can I compress the texture size to, say, 4k without using a blender? 8k is probably still a bit much

[finite flare]

I made it so big, so you can scale easily

to 4k or whatever size

easier to scale down things

[soft remnant]

yoo nice

lucky you

[twilit tartan]

yeah its dead simple

[soft remnant]

i lost the 10+ hours of help + progress that you gave me

[twilit tartan]

oh

[soft remnant]

for no reason

whenever i export

i lose random vertex groups

and its just broken

for no reason

[twilit tartan]

send over the .blend file maybe i can see whats wrong

or did you lose the weight painting in it too

[soft remnant]

lost everything bro

the god damn edges on the shoes aswell

[twilit tartan]

wack

[soft remnant]

i know man

[twilit tartan]

check your autosave

[finite flare]

this?

[soft remnant]

that is absolutley crazy 0 autosaves for the moka model i was working on

in the whole 3-4 days i was doing it

absolutley crazy

[twilit tartan]

yup

what blender version are you using?

[finite flare]

4.3.2

[soft remnant]

2.93

[twilit tartan]

ah yeah 2.9 doesnt have ⬇️ so you have to do that manually

is 4.3 useable for rigging?

[soft remnant]

im just gonna restart from the old save i got from aoba

[finite flare]

more than useable

better

[soft remnant]

nah

[twilit tartan]

interesting

[soft remnant]

2.9 is easier

half the hotkeys on 2.9 dont even work in 4.3

makes you life harder

[finite flare]

idk why would anyone use ancient versions of software

[twilit tartan]

import mmd/ppx only works on 2.9.3 and below

[soft remnant]

becuse its easier bro

[pulsar whale]

us when 2.79 and 2.93

[soft remnant]

aoba

[pulsar whale]

i cant sleep..

[soft remnant]

im gonna do it 1 more time

if something happens

im done

some bs like yesterday

or 2 days ago

im done

[pulsar whale]

like how bad could it be

[soft remnant]

bro

i lost everything

because of some bs export issue

[pulsar whale]

autosave, one of those numbers

those are your moka saves

[twilit tartan]

maybe its your school's monitoring software??

[soft remnant]

no those are the hair one

we did like a week ago

or whatever

different

[soft remnant]

100% bro

gonna have to give the IT a piece of my mind

ill cook up a cheeky trojan

[twilit tartan]

lol

[soft remnant]

see how the computers go

i was seriously upset yesterday

i was about to quit

however

i loaded up aobas nude mod

and i thought

i get to see moka nude

so ill give one more chance

[pulsar whale]

[soft remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/868933408481493092/1151641009382506606/Carrot.gif

[pulsar whale]

i am going to try to go to bed

[twilit tartan]

thats a good idea

[pulsar whale]

my brain is not braining

[soft remnant]

bro it would be like 8am for u have u not slept?

[twilit tartan]

i just woke up from a 3hr power nap and im feeling FRESH

[pulsar whale]

no

i was working on presentation video

[twilit tartan]

damn

[soft remnant]

bro ur job is fcked

[pulsar whale]

im not functioning

[soft remnant]

get some sleep brother

have some tea and sleep

[pulsar whale]

i forgot blender now

[opal horizon]

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/973159070209040436/1299649463220174930/bounce.gif

[opal horizon]

This guy needs to rest

[pulsar whale]

while it was 4am i took image outside

i think it looked good

good night

[soft remnant]

goodnight

that actually does look pretty cool

all my night photos just turn out black

[opal horizon]

Goodnight

Did you figure out what was wrong adachi

[soft remnant]

no i just have to restart

for the second time

[opal horizon]

Why

[soft remnant]

for no reason

[opal horizon]

[dusky coral]

are there any mod to remove this menu i want to make a background

[soft remnant]

because the export is just cooked

only on that model btw

it just loses random vertex groups

[soft remnant]

prob i havent seen it done tho

[pulsar whale]

i already done it

[soft remnant]

only seen the logo above it changed

[soft remnant]

which one

[pulsar whale]

since 0.9

[soft remnant]

mb

also

GO TO SLEEP BRO

[dusky coral]

how?

[soft remnant]

let him sleep

pls

pls

hes dying

like rn

[pulsar whale]

i just did a lot of reverse engineering and thats it

PLEASE let me sleep

i can see the sun RISING

[soft remnant]

bro u know its ggs once you hear the birds chirping and shi

[pulsar whale]

because that is WHAT happening right now

[soft remnant]

SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPP

[opal horizon]

Go to sleep

Before the sun rises

[soft remnant]

im suprised it hasnt risen yet its like 8am for him

[dusky coral]

it already 6am for me ;-;

[pulsar whale]

its 6 and almost a half or whatever

[soft remnant]

BR5OOOOOOOOOOOOO

SLEEPPEOPOEPOEPEOPEPOEPEO

no more messages

sleep

close discord

[opal horizon]

Are you trying to modify the same model adachi

Or did you start a new project

[soft remnant]

i have a backup but its like before i fixed the edges of stuff aswell as a whole days worth of weight painting

[opal horizon]

Well that's tragic

[soft remnant]

i know bro blender always does this bs to me

just 2 days ago i lost the vertex groups of 10 backup moka models

and the only reason i have a model

is because i sent one of the backups to aoba

[opal horizon]

10????

Wtf

[soft remnant]

yeo

they all were the same

i had vertex groups

then i minimized blende

to watch aobas stream

and boom we i reopen

thanos snapped his finger or something

because for all 10

everything was gone

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

also somehow the models legs have moved when i havent even touched them

great

i dont even know how to fix that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020051428678574140/1291518795537449071/IMG_2326.gif

@twilit tartan how do i move the leg bones without the actual model moving with it

im sure i learnt it just forgot

[twilit tartan]

edit mode instead of pose

why do you need to tho?

[runic python]

I need help again. I don't understand how to connect the model to the UniversalAssetLoader.
There are lines like this on the example of a mod with CJ*CJ Mita create_skinned_appendix Mita CJ Body replace_tex Mita CJ CJ\cloth_merge replace_mesh Mita CJ CJ\CJMita CJ_mesh0000 The first lines seem to make it clear what they are and why. But with the most recent one, I can't figure out what CJMita CJ_mesh0000 means at the end of the line.
CJMita, like cloth_merge, are the names of the files, there are such files.
What does CJ_mesh0000 mean? Digging deeper, I realized that this is the name of the file inside the model file. I saw him in the blender

Well, there's no such thing inside my little Mita file. There is a separate body, clothes, head and hair. Therefore, I won't be able to include this file in the UniversalAssetLoader correctly, right?

[finite flare]

CJ_mesh0000 is the name of the mesh

[astral crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1222969694521131173/1289256015006535700/IMG_3076.gif

[runic python]

And this mesh is the only one in the file
There are four mesh files in my file.

[finite flare]

you can export as 1

[astral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[opal horizon]

is th

[opal horizon]

is this a requirement? or can we have more than 1 mesh

[finite flare]

// existing renderers on Mita
//  - Attribute
//  - Body
//  - Hair
//  - Head
//  - Pantyhose
//  - Shoes
//  - Skirt
//  - Sweater

you can

[twilit tartan]

you can have more than one

[opal horizon]

oh right, i remember now

[runic python]

I think I broke something, I don't know what.

But at least now she has two arms, hence the model is loaded with the right one

[finite flare]

hmm I exported the model

without the armature visbile

XD

@runic python have the blend file

[twilit tartan]

better hair!

[finite flare]

tail 1, tail 2 and bang hair ?

or which bones did you use

[twilit tartan]

improved from this

[twilit tartan]

all of them

[finite flare]

oh right it does seem to match the mesh

[twilit tartan]

so hairsideR, bang hair1, banghair2, hairsideL

yeah luckily

the long pigtails are kinda tricky tho

[opal horizon]

Okay i've combined all my meshes to match this total amount. So now I need to write a config for every mesh? I'm replacing the mita model with my own

I don't really understand this pinned too much

create_skinned_appendix Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd Body
replace_tex Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\picture_file_name
replace_mesh Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\fbx_file_name MeshNameInBlender
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Gloves
remove Mita Head
remove Mita Hair
remove Mita Hairs
remove Mita Sweater
remove Mita Body
remove Mita Skirt
-remove Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd
-recover Mita Head
-recover Mita Gloves
-recover Mita Hair
-recover Mita Hairs
-recover Mita Pantyhose
-recover Mita Shoes
-recover Mita Attribute
-recover Mita Sweater
-recover Mita Body
-recover Mita Skirt

so for each mesh what does "SomeMeshNameYouWantoadd"

does that have to match the mesh name in blender?

[soft remnant]

legs are off from mita

[twilit tartan]

yes, this one

[twilit tartan]

ah ic

to fix this, move the bones to fit the model in edit mode, then move them back to fit the original rig in pose mode, then apply pose as rest pose

[soft remnant]

tank u

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-25517353

[opal horizon]

So the mesh name has to be the same in blender

[soft remnant]

uhu

[twilit tartan]

yes

[opal horizon]

so for writing this part

create_skinned_appendix Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd Body

[twilit tartan]

but not the object name, the actual mesh name

[opal horizon]

how would i write this?

[runic python]

My blender freezes when trying to export. This is the third time already

[opal horizon]

if you can write that one for me as an example

[finite flare]

yeah mine as well

lmao

I had to hide stuff to get it to export with tihs

[opal horizon]

replace_mesh Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\fbx_file_name MeshNameInBlender

[finite flare]

realized I can use the hairside as well

ty

[twilit tartan]

indeed 👍

[runic python]

There are also a lot of investments, it's unclear where they came from

[opal horizon]

whats the skinned_appendix looking for?

[twilit tartan]

for that body mesh it would be
replace_mesh Mita Body foldername\filename Body_C.C..001

[runic python]

In order not to replace the existing model, but to create a new one. Otherwise, you won't be able to turn it off correctly later.

[opal horizon]

Oh its the foldername for "SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd"

[twilit tartan]

yes

[opal horizon]

okay i've had that completely wrong, I didnt understand it was for the foldername

thanks

I thought it was also looking for the mesh name

[twilit tartan]

ye

[runic python]

My brain is already boiling from this damn blender. Well, you don't want to do anything, bastard

[opal horizon]

Is the texture the same thing?

replace_tex Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\picture_file_name

so it would be

[twilit tartan]

yup

[opal horizon]

so how might you write it out

[twilit tartan]

replace_tex Mita Body foldername\picturefilename

[opal horizon]

okay thanks so much

[twilit tartan]

yup

[runic python]

replace_tex Mita Some_Mesh_That_You_Created_Earlier foldername\picture_file_name

[opal horizon]

and then so on for like the head, ect

[runic python]

You replace the body of the original Mitа and then you will not be able to return the original body of Mita, you will not be able to turn off the mod.

[twilit tartan]

oh is that why

so you should use create_skinned_appendix instead?

[opal horizon]

i guess i shall see if my mod works

[finite flare]

@twilit tartan

[twilit tartan]

NICE

[runic python]

Yes. First you have to create a new model.
create_skinned_appendix Mita NewModel Body
So that you can turn it off later.
-remove Mita NewModel

[twilit tartan]

hm ic

[opal horizon]

what is the "NewModel" supposed to be named after?

the fbx file?

[runic python]

If you don't do this, when you try to disable this model, it will merge with the original model. You may have seen this in other mods

[twilit tartan]

i see it in my mod 💀

[twilit tartan]

its just a name inside addons_config from what ive seen so it can be anything

[finite flare]

I name my stuff CoreMitaBody

CoreMitaHair for simplicity

[runic python]

In other words, you first create an empty model
create_skinned_appendix
Then you add a texture file to it
replace_tex
And then you add the model file
replace_mesh

[finite flare]

I am missing bones for this

no idea what to do at this point

[twilit garden]

Has anyone worked on physics for the Doki hair?

[twilit tartan]

i used the side bones for all the bangs/tufts on the side

it more or less works fine

[finite flare]

so I could use this ig

[twilit tartan]

ya

[opal horizon]

hmm okay that helps me understand perfectly i think

[runic python]

Did some sadist create Blender? It's the devil's own creation, no less

[opal horizon]

so if this happens is there an issue with the fbx?

i think i wrote the config correctly now

at least for the body replacement. it should show something different?

[soft remnant]

had that happening to me

i think you wrote the addons wrong

[twilit tartan]

see what your console says

[runic python]

Let me see it

[twilit tartan]

i think thats when you havent assigned anything to the BangHair1_1 bone?

index can you verify

[finite flare]

bone doesn't exist or vertex group doesn't exist

in the mesh nemesis_body

[twilit tartan]

ah yes

[opal horizon]

thats so odd

i paired the bone/armature to the mesh

[twilit tartan]

i got that error with these so i just removed them but you should be able to add a vert group with zero weight

[finite flare]

do you have a seperate body and hair mesh

[opal horizon]

i guess maybe it didnt pair the hair properly

[opal horizon]

yes

I consolodated my meshes to fit the maximum. So the hair is on its own

head and body are on their own

[soft remnant]

german how do you make it so all the leg bones rotate not just 1

[finite flare]

well what I do is I have 2 armatures, seperate for mesh and body and export seperately

[twilit tartan]

r u in pose mode?

[opal horizon]

do u keep your original armature?

[soft remnant]

nah

edit

[twilit tartan]

so youre trying to fit the bones to the mesh?

[opal horizon]

u deleted the bones? or added a vertex group

[twilit tartan]

deleted cuz i didnt need them

@soft remnant stream?

i cant voice rn but itll help

[soft remnant]

hold on i locked in

i just grabbed the whole thing

moved it

[twilit tartan]

nice

[soft remnant]

then rotated

[twilit tartan]

yeah thats it

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020051428678574140/1291518795537449071/IMG_2326.gif

[opal horizon]

So you kept two armatures? You didnt delete the new model's armature?

[finite flare]

no

renamed vertex groups and bones instead

[runic python]

Okay, I give up. Fashion is not my thing. Let someone else do it, I wash my hands of it.

Good luck to you

[soft remnant]

i completly understand what nemesis is going though

welcome to my life for almost a week

[opal horizon]

im just trying to see something

to know that im doing at least 1 thing right

[finite flare]

if you have an armature with hair bones

just duplicate

make a version with hair and without hair

easier

[runic python]

The console hints that there is a problem with the config

[opal horizon]

okay after deleting the bone

thats all i get now

[finite flare]

that's good

[twilit tartan]

thats good

[opal horizon]

is my config just not written right?

[twilit tartan]

nah thats an acceptable error

[opal horizon]

not seeing anything different tho

just the floating mita body thing

not a different model or anything

[runic python]

So you probably just turned off the body

[opal horizon]

ohh okay i've seen something

ive seen that issue someone spoke about earlier

where the new model has merged with a mita

when i click it twice

[twilit tartan]

do you guys think the hat things should get some hair physics

[finite flare]

the ribbon thingies?

[twilit tartan]

yeah

[opal horizon]

my config may just be wrong still?

so if i click the button twice. the weird floating mita disappears. re-appears a new mita and the new mesh appears on top of the mita

[finite flare]

might move weirdly..

[runic python]

I do not know, you do not show it to anyone.

[twilit tartan]

that is true

[soft remnant]

need a lil physics

[twilit tartan]

cant hurt to try

[soft remnant]

true

[opal horizon]

here is my config

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-cell-dragon-ball-db-dbz-gif-17654503037274102974

[runic python]

Why did you write the Body once more?

[opal horizon]

on which part?

[finite flare]

I would remove the spaces.

[opal horizon]

for the mesh?

okay i'll remove spaces

[finite flare]

yeah

[runic python]

replace_tex Mita Nemesis Nemesis\Nemesis Body
replace_mesh Mita Nemesis Nemesis\Nemesis Body_C.C..001

[opal horizon]

so for the mesh it is called

the Fbx is called "Nemesis"

[runic python]

You created an empty Nemesis model, but you didn't use it. Instead, you overwritten the Body model.

[opal horizon]

for the texture is it called "Nemesis Body"

okay, that makes sense to me. so when i disable it the mita is merging with the new body

[finite flare]

replace_mesh Mita Body Nemesis\Body_C.C..001

[runic python]

replace_tex Mita Name_of_new_model Name_folder\name_file
replace_mesh Mita Name_of_new_model Name_folder\name_file```

[opal horizon]

ok. i thought i had to include the fbx filename on the mesh text

[finite flare]

you include only the green name

[opal horizon]

got it

[soft remnant]

now that we have fixed the bones how do i fix the other issue

moka having a shlong

[twilit tartan]

bit of pinching from moving the hips in?

[soft remnant]

ye

[twilit tartan]

leave it in

[soft remnant]

NIOOOO

pls

how i fix

[twilit tartan]

maybe use the grab tool?

might be kinda tricky

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-dr-gregory-house-dr-gregory-gif-13514172004559334125

[finite flare]

G, Y in vert mode, while editing

[twilit tartan]

oh true just do it manually cuz its low topo

[runic python]

Tomorrow we need to learn how to bake these damn 4 textures into one. Nothing works without it.

[soft remnant]

what is vert mode

[twilit tartan]

texture baking in blender sucks balls

this thang

[twilit garden]

Could you make physics for the doki hair ?🤩

[twilit tartan]

probably not

[twilit garden]

Sad day

[twilit tartan]

i dont plan on making any more mods

:(

[soft remnant]

cmon man

we need the johnny sins

mod

the prophecy has your name on it

German tortoise must make johnny sins mod

thats what it said

ong

[opal horizon]

so after editing the config to this. my new error is this

[opal horizon]

LOL

no way

[twilit tartan]

send addons_config

[finite flare]

I tried exporting it as well

[opal horizon]

you want the txt file?

[twilit tartan]

ye

[finite flare]

crashes almost instantly

[twilit tartan]

and a screenshot of the folder would help

oh ic

replace_mesh Mita nemesis Nemesis\Body_C.C..001 is supposed to be replace_mesh Mita nemesis Nemesis\filename_in_file_explorer Body_C.C..001

like this name

Hat

[runic python]

I tried more than 20 times in different ways. All in vain. Need to do it again

[opal horizon]

oh i had that previously but i just copied what was said earlier

[twilit tartan]

oh

[opal horizon]

so the FBX filename is needed for that

okay

[runic python]

This is only if both the model file and the texture file are named the same - Body_C.C..001

[twilit tartan]

oh ic

ive just been doing it anyway

[opal horizon]

well what i had did not worked previously. but as stated it was replacing the original mita (attempting to anyway)

and not using the new empty body

but i did see the new body appearing weirdly with the original mita fbx

okay weirdly enough. its now working

with just the editing the mesh text

and adding back the fbx filename

but now i realized that the scale is completely wrong

[finite flare]

that's not a problem

[opal horizon]

well. not completely. but it is wrong

[finite flare]

just scale?

or how does it look @opal horizon

[opal horizon]

scale with the armature? or just the mesh

scale both?

[finite flare]

both

[opal horizon]

got it

[runic python]

Let's do it again
create_skinned_appendix Mita Name_of_new_model Body
replace_tex Mita Name_of_new_model Name_folder\name_of_the_texture_file_png
replace_mesh Mita Name_of_new_model Name_folder\name_of_the_model_file_fbx the_"green"_name_inside_the_blender
If everything is correct here, then the problem is in the file itself.

[opal horizon]

i'll do that

[opal horizon]

yea. i accidentally ommitted the fbx name and now it works

[runic python]

I understand something only about addons_config
I can't do anything else

[twilit tartan]

why does using skinned instead of static makes the position wrong

[soft remnant]

pregnant

[twilit tartan]

also is it necessary to use skinned to get physics?

gregant?

[soft remnant]

hegnant

[soft remnant]

couldnt tell you

[twilit tartan]

i recall aoba saying something about that

[soft remnant]

why the hell is my pose like this in object mode then like this in edit mode

[runic python]

As far as I understand, static creates a static doll. A brick that is unable to animate. And skinned is already for animations.

I've already seen what you have. I have no armature inside the model file, so the model lies sideways and does not move.

[twilit tartan]

oh right i forgot to include the armature

thanks

[twilit tartan]

you need to apply pose as rest pose:
select leg mesh in object mode
modifiers > apply armature
select rig in pose mode
apply pose as rest pose
re add armature modifier to mesh and select the rig

[soft remnant]

LEGEND

[twilit tartan]

i think its an improvement

not too glitchy yet

[soft remnant]

indeed

[soft remnant]

do i need to add a modifier here or just click apply on the thing already here

[twilit tartan]

nah just click apply

thats the armature modifier

[soft remnant]

and manually re add it like this to legs?

[twilit tartan]

ye and select the armature for Object

[twilit tartan]

yup

should be good now

[soft remnant]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

german

you sure your not secretly my father?

[twilit tartan]

💀

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254669393955258399/1271450023325995119/togif-3.gif

[opal horizon]

@soft remnant can u share ur config file here?

[soft remnant]

the one for moka?

[opal horizon]

yea the one that aoba helped u with

[soft remnant]

*Moka
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaHand Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaEyes Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaBody Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaCloth Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaFace Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaHair Body
create_skinned_appendix Mita MokaMouth Body
replace_tex Mita MokaHand Moka\MitaBody
replace_tex Mita MokaEyes Moka\misc
replace_tex Mita MokaBody Moka\body
replace_tex Mita MokaCloth Moka\clothes
replace_tex Mita MokaFace Moka\face
replace_tex Mita MokaHair Moka\hair
replace_tex Mita MokaMouth Moka\mouth
replace_mesh Mita MokaHand Moka\Moka Hands
replace_mesh Mita MokaEyes Moka\Moka Misc
replace_mesh Mita MokaBody Moka\Moka Body
replace_mesh Mita MokaCloth Moka\Moka Clothes
replace_mesh Mita MokaFace Moka\Moka Face
replace_mesh Mita MokaHair Moka\Moka Hair
replace_mesh Mita MokaMouth Moka\Moka Mouth
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Gloves
remove Mita Head
remove Mita Hair
remove Mita Hairs
remove Mita Sweater
remove Mita Skirt
remove Mita Body
-remove Mita MokaHand
-remove Mita MokaEyes
-remove Mita MokaBody
-remove Mita MokaCloth
-remove Mita MokaFace
-remove Mita MokaHair
-remove Mita MokaMouth
-recover Mita Head
-recover Mita Gloves
-recover Mita Hair
-recover Mita Hairs
-recover Mita Pantyhose
-recover Mita Shoes
-recover Mita Attribute
-recover Mita Sweater
-recover Mita Body
-recover Mita Skirt

it not really any differen than the thing pinned

[opal horizon]

ohh ok thanks a bunch

i needed to see how he dealt with multiple mesh @soft remnant so this is super helpful

[soft remnant]

yeah nah i dont understand the coding part at all

glad it helped

[opal horizon]

i somewhat understand but

we'll see if i can implement it

with help, i was able to see something new at least

[soft remnant]

german at some point in the near future im gonna need ur help fixing the edges on the shoes again im gonna weight paint everything else as much as i can first tho

wtf is going on here bro

i didnt even notice that

wait

i know why

the shoes are connected to the clothes

fck sake

[opal horizon]

yea. we're in for here for a good time arent we

[soft remnant]

aleady been doing this for like 4 days

somehow

its really self demotivating

[opal horizon]

also adachi

[soft remnant]

to

yo

[opal horizon]

when you were having issues

[runic python]

@finite flare can you record a video of how you combine 4 textures into one?

[opal horizon]

did you run into the mesh ever being pulled?

in the game

[soft remnant]

wym

[opal horizon]

like when you partially had your model in game

hold on ill show u

[soft remnant]

i had my model turn upside down and small as hell

somehow

[twilit tartan]

learned from aoba earlier today that you dont need to worry about mark sharp/shading cuz the game renders without shading

[soft remnant]

ahh okay

[twilit tartan]

ya

[soft remnant]

so dont need to worry about it

[twilit tartan]

yup

[soft remnant]

glad to hear

[opal horizon]

for example here

[soft remnant]

oh nah mine was either tiny or big as hell

[opal horizon]

i onyl have the body loaded. so is this cause of that? or did i mess up the armature

[soft remnant]

no in between

[soft remnant]

couldnt tell you

[opal horizon]

[twilit tartan]

i can show you on call 14 hours from now

[opal horizon]

would u happen to know? german

why that occurs

[twilit tartan]

lets see

[soft remnant]

you should refer to him as father of creation

[opal horizon]

its pulling the model

[twilit tartan]

can you zoom out a bit

[soft remnant]

wouldnt that just be because he hasnt fit the skeleton right?

[opal horizon]

i think its the scale, or the rotation is wrong? or even the skeleton

[twilit tartan]

try posing it in blender

[soft remnant]

all i know is when its strectching like that its usually because the skeleton isnt fit good

[twilit tartan]

might be missing a stray vertex which is causing the stretching

[opal horizon]

the part of the model that is loading is moving, it is not static

[twilit tartan]

this is a bit too intense for that type of stretching

[soft remnant]

hmmm

[opal horizon]

the skeleton doesnt fit that great tbh

[soft remnant]

try and fit it better

to mita

[twilit tartan]

try to pose it in blender and see if you get the same result @opal horizon

[opal horizon]

like move the model around with the skeleton?

in pose mode

[soft remnant]

move ur model skeleton

[twilit tartan]

ye

[soft remnant]

to fit or atleast get similar to mitas skeleton

this is my model

ur cant even tell which skeleton is whose

cause its good fit

[opal horizon]

ok yea lmao its stretching

it appears the skeleton did not properly pair with the mesh

[twilit tartan]

send pic

[opal horizon]

i just moved the model a bit to the side

and yea we have it pulling

[soft remnant]

ggs

ggs

[twilit tartan]

might be because your weight painting is splotchy and missing certain vertices

try to use smooth tool to make sure its hitting everything

[opal horizon]

yea what i did was

i got the mita fbx

deleted the mita mesh

deleted my model's original armature

paired the mita armature with the new model's mesh

[soft remnant]

did u also use mitas skeleton as reference

[twilit tartan]

sounds good so far

nem doesnt need to cuz he just straight up replaced the rig

[soft remnant]

in this pic i have both my models skeleton and mitas unhidden so ur seeing both

[twilit tartan]

oh ig not

[soft remnant]

ahh okay

[opal horizon]

i believe i used automatic weights

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-cell-dragon-ball-db-dbz-gif-17654503037274102974

[opal horizon]

so thats why

probably

[twilit tartan]

thats probably whats causing the stretching

auto weight is a bit buggy

[soft remnant]

bro

why in gods green earth

why

[twilit tartan]

just is man

[opal horizon]

i thought it fit good enough to not mess up this badly

[twilit tartan]

yeah youve just gotta do manual cleanup now

tons

[soft remnant]

weight painting is the fun part

[opal horizon]

what do u mean by this?

[soft remnant]

wym

[opal horizon]

do u not need to use mita's armature?

[soft remnant]

wym

[opal horizon]

you said you have your model's armature and mita's armature

[soft remnant]

yes i unhid mitas to show u

how its a good fit

the skeleton

because german had issues with his hand strectching

and i suggested he re fit it to mitas skeleton

and it fixed it

[opal horizon]

wait so @twilit tartan do you also have 2 armatures?

[soft remnant]

NO

bro

bro

listen

okay

[opal horizon]

okay

[twilit tartan]

nah just one

[soft remnant]

i use mitas skeleton

as a reference

[opal horizon]

ok

[soft remnant]

so i know where i should be putting my models bones

and once i have fit

i just hide mitas skeleton

i dont need it anymore

[twilit tartan]

i started with the original armature, messed it up by editing it to fit hutao, then fixed it by moving it back in place

[opal horizon]

okay so

[soft remnant]

put mitas skeleton

inside ur model

and make ur model bones

match

as best as u can

to mitas bones

[opal horizon]

OK i misunderstand the first time

now i understand

that makes sense

[soft remnant]

see this is my models bones and mitas

u cant see 2

it looks like 1

because i fit it good

[opal horizon]

okay i see why ur in 4 days of hell

[twilit tartan]

thats only if your model already has the same bones as mita

[opal horizon]

weight painting

[twilit tartan]

hutao came with a genshin rig so i just deleted it

[soft remnant]

my model i just changed it to mitas bones the original ones were cooked

hold on ill find a pic

it was bizzare bro

[opal horizon]

so once u fit inside the hutao model

you automatic weighted?

[twilit tartan]

yes

[opal horizon]

and then weight painted to fix issues

OK

[twilit tartan]

then spent 10 hours cleaning it up

[opal horizon]

holy crap

[gray oracle]

ugly monika 0-0

[twilit tartan]

yeah i had to learn as i was doing it

[opal horizon]

automatic weights sucks

[twilit tartan]

you can mess with envelope size n stuff

so i heard

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319361847383556128/1323916204678582362/45A2C8F0-5D24-48AC-9E11-4B4AC8BE60E9.png?ex=67798c4c&is=67783acc&hm=7ffde621d827a478e44924527dec957fa9ea7e75129372191cc57b2c68a0a998&

this was original bones

[opal horizon]

yea that looks

[soft remnant]

because it was l4d model

so i just replaced it with mitas

[opal horizon]

looks like i will just restart tbh

[soft remnant]

WHY

NO

bro

dont pull a me

pls

[opal horizon]

i deleted some hair bones already

[soft remnant]

oh yeah ggs

[opal horizon]

so i need to restart

[soft remnant]

hold

hold on

ill give u something

okay

it will make ur life easier

[opal horizon]

the issue was the hair didnt have weight

and then the game gave me error code

tbh i didnt put too much time into that blend file anyway

[soft remnant]

use this bones

its better

and easier

for now

just use these

[astral crystal]

How's it going @soft remnant ?

[soft remnant]

worse than it could

but im doing things

so im pushing forward

[opal horizon]

wait but thats missing hair bones too

[soft remnant]

the hair bones wont matter anyway

unless ur model has pigtails

[opal horizon]

dang my model has pigtails

lol

[soft remnant]

wait

wait

use normal mita then

[opal horizon]

well twintails but yea

[opal horizon]

yea i got the mita fbx

[soft remnant]

how long is it

[astral crystal]

thats good i guess

[opal horizon]

very long

like

[soft remnant]

show pic

[opal horizon]

to the legs long

[soft remnant]

show pic

[opal horizon]

like

LONG

[soft remnant]

nah

it wouldnt work anyway

just use the adachi one i sent

[opal horizon]

not even if its paired to the root?

hm

i guess ur right

it'll just be weird

[twilit tartan]

you could totally get that to work

[soft remnant]

it would just look weird asg

[twilit tartan]

its just a bit janky

[opal horizon]

tbh i can just weight paint the

entire hair

[opal horizon]

yea im using your work as a good reference german

since hutao is long

mines just a tad bit longer

[twilit tartan]

ic

[soft remnant]

you should try

[twilit tartan]

i can send you my stuff

[opal horizon]

did u weight paint just off the root

[soft remnant]

using aobas miku hair mod

idk how long urs is

[opal horizon]

it goes below her knees

that kind of long

[twilit tartan]

damn

[soft remnant]

try using aobas miku hair mod

somehow

put the bones there

[twilit tartan]

getting the twin tails right was kinda hard tbh and theyre still a bit jank

[opal horizon]

well i can see the weight at the bottom

is a bit jank

[twilit tartan]

gah damn

[soft remnant]

this long urs?

[opal horizon]

basically the same size LMFAO

yea

that long

[soft remnant]

use his mod

its in mod channels

[twilit tartan]

yes

[soft remnant]

idk how it works but try and use the hair bones from that

[opal horizon]

does he get good physics on it still?

[soft remnant]

yeah

ill send clip

hold on

nevermind

i cant find it

but take my word

its good

[opal horizon]

im gonna try with the model u sent first

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319361847383556128/1320770864744104068/2024-12-23_22-10-00.mp4?ex=67794fb8&is=6777fe38&hm=bfe76298aa61dbf496f1ac04be39e6a676b44bc009ff28f97f3e64e3c40eb474&

[opal horizon]

and see if the automatic weight is better

oh

yea thats decent

[soft remnant]

just turn down the weight

if u dont want that much

[twilit tartan]

fine tuning hair hella painful

[soft remnant]

my life is currecntly very painful

blende has cursed me

[opal horizon]

watch the automatic weights just be trash again

[soft remnant]

bro do it manual

what do you expect

[opal horizon]

[soft remnant]

you gotta put in the work for good result

otherwise i woulda be done 4 days ago

actually i dont even remember how long i have doing this bro

[twilit tartan]

i think automatic + manual cleanup is fastest in the end

[soft remnant]

is this ur model with mitas bones?

why is like double

[soft remnant]

gonna get started on the boobs again

might add some more jiggle this time

[twilit tartan]

yessir

[opal horizon]

nah its just mita bones

[soft remnant]

bro

wtf

have u got 2 skeletons there>?

[opal horizon]

nope

[soft remnant]

need more jiggle for biggere breasts

[opal horizon]

i imported the model you sent me

and just deleted the old skeleton

[soft remnant]

am i miss seeing things?

why am i see ing skeletons in urs

[opal horizon]

i have on wireframe currently

[soft remnant]

PPPJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

mb

mb

[opal horizon]

so i can see inside the model clearly

and place the bones as best as i can

[soft remnant]

completly forgot about that

my bad bro

[soft remnant]

do you see why my life has been horrible

[twilit tartan]

@finite flare if youre awake can you tell me why im getting this error?
the coat mesh does not have any banghair vertex groups
idk if the error is saying its supposed to have them
on aoba's adachi model, the sweater/suit jacket only has non empty vertex groups so its also "missing" a lot of vertex groups, so i still dont know if im supposed to add or remove groups

surely aobas not awake

[soft remnant]

german do you know why i cant ctrl click in weight paint for moka but i can for mita

[twilit tartan]

do you have the right rig selected for moka

is it parented properly

[soft remnant]

i havent touched anything so it should be

ill open another blender and see if its same

[solemn hazel]

AFAIK Its checks the bones not the vertex groups

[twilit tartan]

oh?

[solemn hazel]

If you arent doing hair physics, its safe to delete them

[twilit tartan]

i am unfortunately

[opal horizon]

yea

[solemn hazel]

Separate the hair to its own fbx

[opal horizon]

[soft remnant]

yeah the highlight is different also its orange not blue

[solemn hazel]

And remove the hair in the original fbx

[twilit tartan]

oh then youre in edit mode somehow

[twilit tartan]

gotcha

[twilit tartan]

i also have sweater physics do i need to separate that

[solemn hazel]

you can include it in the body fbx since it accepts it

[twilit tartan]

i see

so just the hair

[solemn hazel]

Yup

[twilit tartan]

gotcha

i was trying to use a single fbx but ig not

[soft remnant]

i can change it in the vertex groups but everything is orange highlighted

and i cant ctrl click

[twilit tartan]

@solemn hazel is this correct?

cuz in that case i could reduce the number of bones for the hair no

[solemn hazel]

Yes that is correct but it would sometimes behave weirdly

[twilit tartan]

i see

[solemn hazel]

Like not being in position or out of frame

[twilit tartan]

not worth the trouble then

[opal horizon]

okay ill be weight paint later

[twilit tartan]

ty

[twilit tartan]

yoo it totally works

just gotta do the coattails now

[maiden coral]

anyone got an idea how i can fix this lmao

[atomic fjord]

moka akashiya mod in development?

[soft remnant]

Yeah

Just need Germans help on why I can’t select bones to weight paint

@twilit tartan

[twilit tartan]

yessir

[soft remnant]

Do you know ghost to fix this

How to fix this

[twilit tartan]

is the rig correctly parented

[soft remnant]

how do i check

[atomic fjord]

thank you for deciding to make this 🙏 r+v is so underrated i feel

[twilit tartan]

try to move the armature around in object mode the mesh should move with it

[soft remnant]

like this?

[twilit tartan]

yeah thats good

are you able to go into weight paint

[soft remnant]

yeah

i just cant ctrl click bones

to change weight

everything is ornage

when its supposed to be blue

[twilit tartan]

go back to object mode and into weight paint again

[soft remnant]

nothing changed

[twilit tartan]

send a ss of your full blender screen

[twilit tartan]

very weird

show what pose mode looks like

[soft remnant]

just usual blender for me

it works fine for mita model

i have it next to moka in this blender

everything is fine for it in weight painnt

its just this