miside-mods-discussion

[soft remnant]

need him to see what im seeing and explain some stuff

[soft remnant]

The mesh is very odd

[naive ravine]

how do people make mods?

[soft remnant]

What type of mods

Like are you trying to create a whole new model

Or just change textures

[naive ravine]

both

[soft remnant]

well i can try and show you to the best of my ability

im pretty new to all this so dont expect much

its not easy at all so you gotta be prepared

[noble birch]

Hello

Can someone help me

[soft remnant]

yo

[noble birch]

I am trying to do a mod, its not for miside, its actually for devil may cry 5, i will put Mila as vergil, but i dont have Mila's 3d model

[soft remnant]

index can i ask a question

[noble birch]

Thx

Can you give me Crazy Mita too, i had an ideia to put her as a demon

The one with the red eye

[finite flare]

?

[soft remnant]

uhh so with the mesh it a bit like weird

what do you do if mita has a bunch of stuff moka is missing

do you just skip it

like take the hair for example

mita has like 20 different vertexes and moka has 2

and also what do i do for stuff like this since mita is wearing some weird shirt it cuts off but moka has a collar do i just delete to collar stuff or do i just imagine that mita has it

cause mita has stuff for her ribbon

[true nebula]

not really a mod discussion but what location is the player coding for 999 days? i cant seem to find it

[dense robin]

Does anyone have an idea why unity explorer is not working for me? This is the first game where I have problems with Unity Explorer

[spiral citrus]

Is the mod getting loaded in the first place? check the Melon console

[drifting saddle]

theres two ways you can do this, re weight paint the neck region of the base body to match collar. Use body bones to influence the collar more to bend properly.

Just play around with bone influences until it stops clipping

[dense robin]

Im using BepInEx - but true, its not even loading ..

[spiral citrus]

Check if the files are in the correct place, can't help you much outside of that because i use Melonloader myself

[dense robin]

ill check thanks, maybe ill try Melon if i cant fix it

[soft remnant]

i have 0 clue on how to do that

moka has like a choker weight but its only the front

[drifting saddle]

yeah you need to paint it to match the articulation.

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020051428678574140/1291518795537449071/IMG_2326.gif

im so cooked bro

i have no clue how to paint at all

[drifting saddle]

im not a great teacher, all i can do is tell ya what you need to do. Theres tutorials online on weight painting

Trust me i suck at this

[soft remnant]

yeah see i tried that the other day nothing from the paste 5 years came up

either the tutorial was really old

or it was just people flexing their weight painting

[drifting saddle]

old still works, you can figure it out from there. I still use those tutorials

Just because its old doesn't mean it dont work

[soft remnant]

should i go back and redo all the vertex groups then

they were all a bit off

[drifting saddle]

if you want quality, i say you should. But rigging takes a while, so buckle in

[soft remnant]

how long is a while

[drifting saddle]

Remember to pose bones in 3 different areas to see how it articulates to make changes accordingly

prob 3 or 4 hours

[soft remnant]

each vertex???????

or all together

[drifting saddle]

your painting it like a canvas, so your brush is adding or taking away weights

[soft remnant]

no clue what this means at all

yeah ill go redo everything i think

[drifting saddle]

before you do, make a backup

just play around with one you don't need to use, so you can learn it

thats the best way

[soft remnant]

fcking hell bro

damn left for dead models

this is easily the hardest thing i have ever done

siddly what do i do about that other thing i said

as you can see moka has 2

and mita has like 20

do i just leave it?

[drifting saddle]

oh no match the original mita bones man, otherwise its gonna look terrible

takes more work but its what looks good

[dense robin]

hmm

[soft remnant]

how would i even do this witht the hair man

this is so fcked

completly different hair styles

[thorny wigeon]

wow how you guys use mod

[soft remnant]

create it more than use it at this point

@drifting saddle where even is the skeleton on this

[drifting saddle]

you need to select the skeleton in object mode, then select pose or edit to see it in more detail, you are already in wire frame mode which helps see the bones

those black triangles on the first picture are bones

which they looked really fudged btw

[soft remnant]

lfd model

half of the bones are like random stuff in left for dead

has like bandages and a gun clip

random bs

[drifting saddle]

duplicate the base mita bones your replacing the mesh with, and use that entire skeleton

Thats the best way, but youll have to re rig the entire mesh

[soft remnant]

bro

im about done bro

[drifting saddle]

Buddy i spent 8 hours just doing one mesh swap, its not gonna take 30 minutes.

[soft remnant]

i have been sitting here all day doing this bro

literally since i woke up

its 12am

[drifting saddle]

Yep, i spent 2 or 3 days rigging, re rigging, adjusting scale, bones animations and it still was pretty okay

its not an easy process, but if you do it right first, you don't have to do it again

[soft remnant]

wouldnt even know how to do this man

no tutorials or nothin on this bs

[drifting saddle]

Select mita mesh in your outliner, then shift+d

duplicate that skeleton too

[soft remnant]

which one

[drifting saddle]

that whole collection, just duplicate it, and delete meshes out of it, all you want in the skeleton

then line up your new mesh to the skeleton using scale and apply scale to all mesh/scaled objects

[soft remnant]

supped to look like this?

[drifting saddle]

Yes

Scale your mesh to match bones, ctrl+p to parent them together with automatic weights if your lazy, and then edit until it bends properly

[soft remnant]

yeah bro hold on a min nothing ur saying is making sense

lemme find it first

im not familiar with anything in this at all yet so ur talking bs rn

[drifting saddle]

I mean, your prob going to make mistakes if you don't know how to use the program at all. You really need to learn atleast the basic commands and systems.

[soft remnant]

bro i tried to

then aoba and all that said i fell into a youtube trap

and he got me to model bigsmoke

which is nothing like this at all

so i have no clue what the hell im doing

[drifting saddle]

I just model my meshes to base mita skeleton usuallly. but i follow a different process, if aoba works just do that

I have no clue what he does

[soft remnant]

no but the thing is everything is different

like i have mutiple meshes

muiltiple textures

i can fit moka to mitas body and all that fine

but now

ur saying i gotta weight paint

[drifting saddle]

Yes your supposed to, you make a duplicate of all the mesh parts, then merge them together so you can rig one entire part, then re seperate

[soft remnant]

well how the hell was i supposed to know that at all

[drifting saddle]

i was getting there but i wanted to warn you first

[soft remnant]

yeah but like even before hand

i have spent my entire day doing nothing

pretty much

no tutorial on this no info

[drifting saddle]

yeah blender is like that, your just supposed to be creative and think outside the box. they don't realyl do hand holding

[soft remnant]

bro this aint even hand holding at this point

this is like

guess a number between 1 and a million

[long trail]

Which app do you use?

[drifting saddle]

Its like a spartan war camp dumping your baby into the wild forest

[soft remnant]

blender bro

[soft remnant]

more like a fckn ocean bro

[long trail]

Is it paid?

[soft remnant]

no

[drifting saddle]

blender is free

[rose crypt]

i think so i gotchu though

[long trail]

thx

[drifting saddle]

But difficult to learn and use properly

[rose crypt]

i onl needed uni asset loader

[soft remnant]

i should have taken notes from aoba or something

actually no point

[drifting saddle]

go back into the conversation history and find his stuff

i do that alot

[soft remnant]

it was vc

plus

it wouldnt even matter

nothing is set up like his was

no point

someone needs to make a fckn guide on this

seriously

complete bs

[drifting saddle]

Well, im not a good teacher, I learned pretty much all of blender just screwing around doing it myself. Because guides are pretty rare

[soft remnant]

rare

yeah nah bro

stuff the guide

[drifting saddle]

theres always 3ds max

but its paid

[soft remnant]

nah bro

like i want to learn how to do this

but every inch of help i get

i have no clue what you guys are talking about

like 90% of the time

[drifting saddle]

i read the entire blender documentation btw, you think that might help?

[soft remnant]

where is that

ill give it a read

if any information sticks i hope its the important stuff

[drifting saddle]

https://docs.blender.org/

[soft remnant]

just the user manual?

[drifting saddle]

it has all the commands, all the terms, all the processes outlined

I recommend reading it

yes the user manual works

Good luck man

[soft remnant]

yeah nah gonna need a bit more than luck

miracle or something

[drifting saddle]

i bet you actually become a good modeler

show blender whose boss

[soft remnant]

its so exhausting

i actually cant stop thinking about it

blender i mean

the past 3 days i have gotten pretty much 0 sleep

[drifting saddle]

i felt like that too, It kept me coming back to learn this stupid program

[soft remnant]

yeah buts its like a actual problem

my mental health is declining from this

[drifting saddle]

but that was like 6 years ago, so i dont remember how i learned it. Sheer willpower? i dunno

[soft remnant]

the ui would have been like a tiny simpler 6 years ago no?

[drifting saddle]

nah they made the ui simpler every update

[soft remnant]

yeah ggs bro

[drifting saddle]

it was like a pilot jet engine console

and it liked to crash and burn

[soft remnant]

what should i not read in the user manual

i dont want to make movies or anything

so what should i skip

i only want to learn blender for this

[drifting saddle]

prob anything to do with dynamics or simulations, you prob just want to focus on rigging and interface

maybe modeling if your gonna edit the model

[soft remnant]

yeah

ill skip all the bs that looks useless

[drifting saddle]

There ya go. I expect a 40000 word paper on my desk tommorrow morning

lol jk, i gotta go to work man. good luck

[soft remnant]

yeah

seeya

[severe tangle]

bump

[pulsar whale]

i hate breaking bad news, but that's just MMD

[frank coral]

what

np

nopo

nooo

[solemn hazel]

is there a way to reload the assets loaded by the miside-universal-asset-loader

[pulsar whale]

F5 but i usually just restart the game to ensure that everything works

[twilit garden]

Mannnn… impressive

[solemn hazel]

When weight painting custom models, should you use auto normalize?

[drifting saddle]

i dont use auto, i normalize after each big change between weights manually

Auto can be finicky

[pulsar whale]

I agreed, don't use auto normalize

Just use normalize all after finishing the job

[lofty hollow]

Chilling

[nova zephyr]

whats with the appdomain?

it literally gave me fakebsod

its from that staywithmita mod thing, is this normal?

[midnight birch]

😵

[loud burrow]

I think Ugly Mita got into your mod xD

[finite flare]

xD

[pulsar whale]

also testing physics

the skirt might be too string so i have to tone it down

[finite flare]

gta sa menu button

sounds

[pulsar whale]

yes

that is also dating music

[wicked dome]

Is this the man's cos?

[round bay]

can you try to swap model from genshin impact characters? like Ayaka?

[dusky coral]

hey how can i remove option from the main menu

and the title. I want to make a background with the main menu

[drifting saddle]

Thats gonna take awhile since genshins rigging is bad enough to make a grown man cry.

[pulsar whale]

he true

time to make some emip stuff for mita...

i dont feel too good about this

you only replace the one in resources.assets right, siddly?

[drifting saddle]

Good luck man, I'm struggling with mita hard. Tried to emip a hair swap and it failed.

Yeah just resource.assets

[pulsar whale]

good

time to cook

big fan of emip because UAL just replaces everything and ruined all models

[drifting saddle]

Lemme know if you get it, I'm doing a hair swap for someone.

They want crazy hair mita on base isual mita.

[pulsar whale]

wtf.

[drifting saddle]

That and if i ever get around to punk cappie replacement I'll definitely be interested in your process

[pulsar whale]

oh my god i just realized something

the clothes are shared between all mitas

unlike little and creepy

[drifting saddle]

NOOOOO dang it

[finite flare]

is that surprising

[pulsar whale]

it's not, it's a good thing

so that means i have to go to plan B

actually replaced everyone

well that's a total disaster for me

so ruined

[drifting saddle]

Just killed a mod idea i had. Oh well.

All punk mitas it is now.

Unless I merge everything with body.. and do the outfit and textures together?

Might be crappy though

[pulsar whale]

i have another idea

but

it will take a lot more efforts

the head itself is seperated

meaning we can do each model as their own

however, we'll lose skinning functionality entirely

well, not really because Face.png still counts as skin

but Cloth.png, Body.png and Hair.png? dead

i think this may cook

[drifting saddle]

Shoot keep cooking great wise one, save us from this terrible revelation!

[pulsar whale]

alright ill just release my mod as UAL version for now

i be bed

[fleet summit]

Someone should do a Marinette from miraculous ladybug

[main plank]

I'm in search for the Megumin Skin that I've seen a runner use

no luck,he probaly did it himself 😭

[drifting saddle]

Most people just make there own.

[upper egret]

https://tenor.com/view/blink-miraculous-miraculous-ladybug-blink-gif-25472986

[fleet summit]

It would fit

[runic hollow]

ADACHI!!!

[cinder shard]

how t

do i install mods?

[halcyon quail]

head over to the #miside-mods . Every mod has a instalation instruction

[cinder shard]

thank you 👍

[halcyon quail]

you can easily get to Miside/Data/Custom by clicking on this icon, selecting manage and then "browse local files"

it is here

[buoyant sierra]

Well I really wanted to make a mod but I don't even know where to start. Is there any kind soul who can help me?

[grim mist]

to make a mod you need:

1. download and install BepInEx/MelonLoader that will allow mods to run
2. enough experience in C# programming language to write your own mod
3. download dnSpy and Cpp2IL to look at the game's code so you know what you can change or do with your mods
4. use UnityExplorer and some asset ripper if you need models from the game

these are minimal requirements

[buoyant sierra]

right thank you, its really help me

[modest valley]

i dont know how to get this mod to work

[bleak bay]

u need asset loader and also the bepinex thing asset loader is linked on the website and bebinex on the asset loader website

u put the bepinex into the miside folder

then the assetloader into the bepinex plugin folder

then u put the assimp.dll from the assetloader into the MiSide folder

then u put the ddlc mod into the asset foalder in the assetloader

(the one for all dokis)

the mod for the singular dokis goes into the MiSide/Data/Custom folder

i havent gotten the Monika sprite for the 2d Mita version running yet if someone knows how to install that one pls let me know

[solemn hazel]

What do you guys do if your custom model is smaller than the bones (i.e. smaller arm span)

Currently im stretching and deforming them but it kinda looks ugly after doing so

[runic python]

Is there any way to unpack the FixTinyMita.emip file?

[stray warren]

archive it

[noble birch]

ADACHI

[runic python]

And what will it do? I'll just get the modified archive without knowing which files have changed and without being able to unpack it.

[pulsar whale]

https://tenor.com/view/false-persona-4-adachi-gif-8291619742761507310

[noble birch]

Can you pass me the textures pls

[wicked elbow]

I'm trying to get the DDLC skin mod to work, and I get everyone but Crazy Mita to work, idk why, only her Monika hair works, no matter what I do

[noble birch]

Guys can you pass me the Mi-la model (The nerd mita) i am going to put her in dmc 5 as vergil

I had this idea because of her cutting the stone in her part of the game

Someone?

Pls

We need to do a SSS Combo in Mita as Mila

[lament ermine]

(Day 4 asking) I've been seeing anime character as mita. can someone make Mugi from K-ON! as mita please? :3

[noble birch]

Ritsu is better

[soft remnant]

i said id would do it

just give me a couple days and ill start uit

i wanna finish moka first

@pulsar whale what do i do about these exposed bones or should i leave theme

i talked to siddly he said i would have to re fit the bones but he also said it makes the model weird ingame

[pulsar whale]

all you need to focus is mita bone

[soft remnant]

those are mita bones

[pulsar whale]

then dont need to do anything about mita bone

except the hair, maybe

[soft remnant]

what do i do about that then

because he said i would have to refit

but he also said it cooks the model

[soft remnant]

oh nice

[pulsar whale]

i actually waited for adachi mod to be posted to #miside-mods

but i can't wait

use this one as your base skeleton

[soft remnant]

for future reference what did you do with this model then

for the bones

[pulsar whale]

i restored a few missing bones like fingers and toe

and removed hair bone

because each one has their own

[soft remnant]

does that not break the model ingame tho?

[pulsar whale]

and will make UAL freaks out

[soft remnant]

ah okay

can we join a vc or are you a bit busy rn

[pulsar whale]

im in a middle of something

[soft remnant]

alg

i would still have to re paint the model tho

the mesh is really different than mita

like weight wise

[pulsar whale]

every model can fit her as long as you get creative with weighting

[soft remnant]

yeah i have to re weight paint it

according to siddly

if i want a decent model

i dont want some trash

[pulsar whale]

its not really required to reweight unless it's really a last resort or you really want a perfect model

my adachi model wasn't reweighted

[soft remnant]

yeah nah i want a really good model

[pulsar whale]

it was the one came with the model itself

[soft remnant]

plus i feel like weight painting is not to bad

i tested it out this morning

doesnt seem hard

just time consuming

seems scarier than it is

[noble birch]

Someone

pls

[soft remnant]

i have no clue how to even extract the model from the game at all

sorry man

wait ill try

but dont get ur hopes up

[noble birch]

Thx man

[soft remnant]

dont get ur hopes up

at all

i mean i found her mesh

im gonna keep looking

[pulsar whale]

@noble birch

[soft remnant]

where do you get that

in asset studio?

[pulsar whale]

yes

[soft remnant]

or somewhere else

[noble birch]

Thx dude

[soft remnant]

how

i could not find it

[noble birch]

Thx for help too

[soft remnant]

all i can find is her headphones and stuff

[soft remnant]

nah didnt do nothing bro

still i have no clue how he has found that

all i can find is her dead body

headphones

and glasses

[noble birch]

You atleast tried help

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-crying-black-guy-pleading-plead-gif-15911108386383402751

[noble birch]

Now we are going to do a sss in Mita

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale what was the original asset name in asset loader?

for mila

[pulsar whale]

"Mila"

[soft remnant]

bro

its just not there

[soft remnant]

fck

i didnt expand the resources

mb

[pulsar whale]

you're trying to extract the whole world there

[soft remnant]

i miss clicked when expanding

[foggy hemlock]

keeps crashing after this point

i cant get bepinex to work

[foggy hemlock]

everytime i re-open too it just re-opens this for about 5 seconds and then closes

[wicked elbow]

is anyone here able to run the ddlc mod where both crazy mita and the rest of mitas actually can work together? because I seem to be having a problem where either everyone but crazy mita works, or crazy mita works but everyone else doesn't

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale can i somehow make all the meshes vertex groups into 1 because rn i have 6 meshes

[pulsar whale]

those should be seperated unless you know what you're doing

[soft remnant]

ok

is there a way make it so when u weight paint it duplicates on the other side

[twilit tartan]

are you trying to symmetrize left/right?

[soft remnant]

so im weight paint the chest right now

[twilit tartan]

ye

[soft remnant]

is there a way to make it so when i weight paint the left side of the chest it auto does the right side in the same way

[twilit tartan]

I couldn't find a way to do that cuz each boob bone is responsible for just the mesh on one side

when I tried to do both sides at once using symmetrize I ended up binding both legs to the same bone

but someone smarter than me probably knows a way

[twilit tartan]

could you send your addons_config.txt? im having trouble loading my mesh

[soft remnant]

@finite flare

[soft remnant]

^

[soft remnant]

well if i can figure it out i can spend 50% less time on weight painting

[twilit tartan]

indeed

[twilit tartan]

thanks!

[twilit tartan]

mine looks exactly like that but refuses to work :(

[pulsar whale]

same trick as CJ model

but replace_mesh and replace_tex doesn't work properly with UAL

[soft remnant]

i dont remember much from that session at all

it was like 5am

from the looks of it the mita model isnt even symmetrical perfectly anyway

ill just free hand it

[naive mirage]

Check the error at BepinEx

Delete that bone in blender

[twilit tartan]

I get this upon trying to load the skin

[pulsar whale]

Probably bad mesh name

[twilit tartan]

hm

like in my addons_config?

[pulsar whale]

No

in blender

[soft remnant]

renaming the meshes like this is fine right

wont break anything?

[pulsar whale]

that can be named everything

BUT

the only real important name

is the one below

[soft remnant]

hmm?

im confused

[twilit tartan]

you mean to name the mesh Body?

[pulsar whale]

basically

[pulsar whale]

because UAL will take the bottom name

[soft remnant]

so this name is fine aslong as i dont touch mesh0?

[pulsar whale]

no its other way around

[soft remnant]

what

[pulsar whale]

because if you want to port the mesh into the game

you'll need to type in mesh0_mesh0000

(spaces are not allowed)

so "Moka Clothes" can be named anything

[twilit tartan]

PROGRESS

[pulsar whale]

but you have to remember the bottom one

[twilit tartan]

no error but no model now

[finite flare]

maybe mirroring

[soft remnant]

so should i change mesh0_mesh0000 to MokaCloths?

[soft remnant]

the mirror index thing?

[pulsar whale]

Yes

[soft remnant]

doesnt do anything

already had it on

[soft remnant]

ok

[twilit tartan]

my understanding is that the bottom name needs to match whats in addons_config is that close?

[pulsar whale]

bottom name needs to match with addons_config

[twilit tartan]

now Im getting a few NullPointerExceptions and this:

[pulsar whale]

This is "fine"

because Hairs is for Kind Mita

[twilit tartan]

ic

[pulsar whale]

this is either:

scale is wrong

and rotation is not set properly

ensure that scale is all 1 1 1 for meshes

and rotation is set to 0d 0d 0d

[soft remnant]

ahh okay so for example if i dont want to type in mesh3_0003 in the addons config i should change its name to MokaBody?

[pulsar whale]

yes

[soft remnant]

and it wont break anything?

[pulsar whale]

no

[soft remnant]

glad to hear

[pulsar whale]

as long you didnt miss the scale and rotation

[soft remnant]

just no spaces yeah?

[pulsar whale]

you should see it live

yes

no space, underscore is allowed

[soft remnant]

you mean mitas bones?

[pulsar whale]

leave mita bones alone

you need to focus on mesh

[soft remnant]

yeah i havent touched

this is currently what i have done with mokas mesh

[twilit tartan]

les go my mesh loaded but the rigging is straight nightmare fuel

thank you @pulsar whale

[soft remnant]

bro

haha

so from my understanding now in the addons_config i would type MokaBody now correct

just so i havent miss understood something

great

[twilit tartan]

aha

just had to apply location

[pulsar whale]

yes

[finite flare]

great

[pulsar whale]

that too is also important

[twilit tartan]

holy crap im done

[soft remnant]

you now the 4th person to port model into the game i think

[twilit tartan]

huh wow

ive seen at least 2

[pulsar whale]

i know that there's chinese people in bilibili ported model in

though they didn't post it here i think

it was uma musume model, if i remember correctly

[twilit tartan]

not this fella?

[pulsar whale]

nope

[twilit tartan]

ah

[pulsar whale]

i think it was

rice shower?

something along the line

[twilit tartan]

ic

I heard someone ported a megumin but idk if its a proper model or just a retexture

[pulsar whale]

still though, it's good

i love seeing new things

[twilit tartan]

absolutely

I can finally sleep...

should I make this public

[pulsar whale]

do what you want, id polish it before releasing it though

[twilit tartan]

yeah definitely

already noticed a few things

[soft remnant]

just noticed this

ayooo

[twilit tartan]

what "feature" is that

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/tupac-true-pointing-up-truth-2pac-gif-26578973

[pulsar whale]

if you plan to remove everything else, then bad news you lose booba privileges

[soft remnant]

always wondered why the up and coming peacefull mode had love hearts next to it

[pulsar whale]

you have to merge them to chest bone 😔

[twilit tartan]

[soft remnant]

bro weight painting is so fcking time consuming holy

[finite flare]

jiggle

[twilit tartan]

awooga

[pulsar whale]

everybody gangsta until we replace_mesh Mita Sweater

[finite flare]

[finite flare]

lol

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-men-anime-lock-in-gotta-lock-in-gif-7804474343585514925

aoba you free sometime later tonight????????

[twilit tartan]

it took me basically all day starting rusty, these things helped tho:
separate by loose parts so you can work on a single part at a time
use high weight and low strength to paint
use keyframes to test joints without having to tab out and reposition each time
use automatic weights, you'll have to do cleanup but its faster in the end
you can edit mita's rig by moving/rotating bones to fit your characters mesh

[soft remnant]

i have no clue how to do any of that my man

[twilit tartan]

ah

[soft remnant]

i literally touched blender fo the first time 3 days ago

never have done anything like this before

[twilit tartan]

well youll definitely learn a lot very quick

very fun

[finite flare]

I can vouch for automatic weights

but it takes time

[pulsar whale]

which side are you on:
vertex renaming
or
automatic weights/reweighted the whole thing

[twilit tartan]

what is vertex renaming 💀

[soft remnant]

Aoba am i doing this wrong no clue what this dude is talking about

[finite flare]

if it's in game model replacement e.g core mita to usual mita, vertex renaming(or none at all)

[soft remnant]

am i supposed to be testing joints or something

[pulsar whale]

:myman:

[soft remnant]

im just weight painting to make mita and moka weight similar

[finite flare]

[soft remnant]

or is that wrong

[twilit tartan]

yeah after youre happy, go into pose mode and move the bone around to test the joint

then youll become sad again and change some weights

[soft remnant]

BRO i have never been told to do this by anyone

[soft remnant]

so weight paint till it looks kinda similar to moka then test joints?

[twilit tartan]

yup

[soft remnant]

i dont know how this would work for chest

the jiggle?

[twilit tartan]

dont worry about that

[soft remnant]

so just arms and stuff

[twilit tartan]

nah you still have to paint the chest, just treat them as limbs

[finite flare]

you saw me weight paint

[soft remnant]

not really i was busy trying to learn blender

i skimmed over every now and then

[finite flare]

the amount of weight does not matter with jiggle bones

I had 0.050 and 0.079

[soft remnant]

yeah no clue what that means

[finite flare]

respectively on tit 1 and tit 2

[pulsar whale]

but in order to use that you have to replace sweater mesh

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-the-next-step-for-immigration-immigration-alien-locked-in-alien-locked-in-gif-7143551599349454414

lemme finish the weight on this chest then let me see if i fcked it up

[twilit tartan]

isnt the actual value of vertex weight largely arbitrary? I read that it just has to do with the value of shared verts between bones

[finite flare]

yes it's arbitrary

like I said

I literally had 0.050

weight

on the bones

[twilit tartan]

ah yes ic

[finite flare]

and it didn't change anything

[twilit tartan]

ig itd be better to use numbers closer to .5 so you can see the weight more clearly

I definitely struggled with that

[soft remnant]

yeah nah you guys are speaking gibberish rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020051428678574140/1291518795537449071/IMG_2326.gif

[twilit tartan]

basically just keep painting and testing your joints

[soft remnant]

ill paint

uhh dont know what testing the joints is ill get back to you once im done with the chest

[twilit tartan]

cool

[pulsar whale]

excuse me @modern wasp have you recieved the message?

[modern wasp]

I did. I won't publish it though. I decided to limit the amount of posting to mods section and instead forward everyone to nexus mods. didn't get time to announce it yet unfortunately

[pulsar whale]

i see

thank you

aw this is ruined

[fleet summit]

What about a Blake belladonna skin

[finite flare]

where are you going to announce it

[modern wasp]

today I think

[finite flare]

which channel, I asked where, not when

xd

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale does this look ok or is it fcked

still alot better than before i weighter it

i have no clue what im doing

@twilit tartan does this look okay

or is it cooked

i have no clue what to do because the shirts are different

yeah bro im so cooked

[steady iron]

Mihono Bourbon

Wait is that a nexus mod

Cuz thats actualy rly good

[pulsar whale]

loks fine to me

https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/65

i am cooking

[soft remnant]

the weightings fine?

[steady iron]

Can someone sent me the pretty derby mod

[soft remnant]

this is sick

i love how zesty cappie looks

[steady iron]

[soft remnant]

bro its so cool

[steady iron]

Maybe but i hate persona

[soft remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-cell-dragon-ball-db-dbz-gif-17654503037274102974

[steady iron]

Such a boring game sry

[pulsar whale]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-lol-gta-gta-san-andreas-running-gif-25040072

[soft remnant]

@pulsar whale just for future references what do i when the clothing is a bit different like this do i just guess where to put the weight

[pulsar whale]

need to port this model in there

[steady iron]

Cool model still

[naive mirage]

https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/47
https://www.nexusmods.com/miside/mods/63

[finite flare]

[steady iron]

Thx mate

[lucid coral]

someone PLEASEE make a communist cappie mod

[pulsar whale]

a WHAT

[lucid coral]

just like the one in my pfp

[lucid coral]

Communist cappie

[pulsar whale]

why communist

[lucid coral]

cause it’s fire

[finite flare]

no lol

[dusky coral]

hey how can i remove option from the main menu
and the title. I want to make a background with the main menu

[lucid coral]

think about it

[finite flare]

no

[soft remnant]

what do i do here since moka clothing is different

should i just color in the color

[finite flare]

trial and error

[pulsar whale]

^

this

[finite flare]

import in game

see what's broken

fix it

import again

I am doing core mita currently

I REALLY want the lights to work

probably won't be able to make it

[soft remnant]

do i need to worry about the addons config code or just leave it

well that was stupid

question

[finite flare]

idk the addons config

not good at it myself haha

[soft remnant]

hmm

[pulsar whale]

light wont work

since the mitas dont have the renderer

it suck but we have to accept it

[finite flare]

I need to scale her hands

she has double joints

2 knees

and 2 wrists

@pulsar whale ty tho

I just renamed the vertex groups + bones

way less work

helped a ton

[pulsar whale]

ya

its good

if its have more, just vertex weight mix

add, all

[soft remnant]

aoba how do i write the addons code

i just wanna test the thing ingame like index said

[finite flare]

^ that's what you should be doing all along

[soft remnant]

well i didnt know

mb

not gonna lie dont even know what im looking for ingame but ill try

[hushed drift]

Hey uhh

[soft remnant]

yo

[hushed drift]

If anyone wants to make a 02 mod

Lemme know

[soft remnant]

sure

[hushed drift]

Or Ame chan

I'll be first to test 😉

[pulsar whale]

UAL basic addons_config.txt template
see commands on top of your file, it should explain.

but for starter:

create_skinned_appendix Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd Body
replace_tex Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\picture_file_name
replace_mesh Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd YourCharacter\fbx_file_name MeshNameInBlender
remove Mita Pantyhose
remove Mita Shoes
remove Mita Attribute
remove Mita Gloves
remove Mita Head
remove Mita Hair
remove Mita Hairs
remove Mita Sweater
remove Mita Body
remove Mita Skirt
-remove Mita SomeMeshNameYouWantToAdd
-recover Mita Head
-recover Mita Gloves
-recover Mita Hair
-recover Mita Hairs
-recover Mita Pantyhose
-recover Mita Shoes
-recover Mita Attribute
-recover Mita Sweater
-recover Mita Body
-recover Mita Skirt

[soft remnant]

yoo thanks

[pulsar whale]

i might forgot some but it should cover a lot of things

[finite flare]

@modern wasp can this be pinned, useful information

[soft remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020051428678574140/1291518795537449071/IMG_2326.gif

[pulsar whale]

i wrote this while im in meeting come on

dw about it

[soft remnant]

100% fcked it up somehow but lets see

[finite flare]

see console

console tells you what is wrong

[soft remnant]

not even any errors this time

its jus fcked

any idea whats happening here?

[finite flare]

apply all transforms

[soft remnant]

what do you mean

[finite flare]

in blender

to the mesh

[pulsar whale]

he almost got it.... come on now

[soft remnant]

what?

[steady iron]

How would u load this even

Addons?

[soft remnant]

it worked but its upside down and small

but yeah thats what the body mesh looks like

[soft remnant]

yeah

just like any other mod

yeah no errors

wtf is going on

im gonna try and load everything

see if i get a small and upside down moka

gate of divinity

[finite flare]

@pulsar whale you got any model that has working facial expressions

wonder how that is done

[soft remnant]

index any clue what is going on

why is she smal and upside down

it has loaded the body mesh correct

thats what it looks like

just small and upside down

[astral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-computer-smile-yellow-smile-surprised-gif-26981337

[soft remnant]

yeah bro im so cooked

no clue how to write code

and somehow its broken

even though i used aoba template

[astral crystal]

im ngl you might be💀

but its trial and error

you'll get it eventually

[soft remnant]

bro i cant even do anything consle isnt giving me errors

i dont know whats wrong

[astral crystal]

💀

[pulsar whale]

UAL doesn't support face expression but my Adachi mod should have face expression

Or do you want Mita model as a base?

[soft remnant]

what your seeing is the hair

bro i dont understand

wtf am i doing wrong

[astral crystal]

💀

[finite flare]

oh right

[soft remnant]

they are both upside down

but one is tiny

and one is massive

[astral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-fortnite-reaction-ninja-low-taper-fade-gif-1784137995500051652

[pulsar whale]

@finite flare

[finite flare]

thankies

[forest bluff]

hat is that

what*

[pulsar whale]

and this one is mita as base

so you can compare

oh i forgot this one is like Y 20cm

[soft remnant]

wow the clothes match perfect

do you know why this is happening aoba

[pulsar whale]

blender might be a dick and set your model scale to 100

[soft remnant]

no consle errors

[soft remnant]

how to fix

plus its upside down

the body is small

[pulsar whale]

thats the problem, i dont know blender 4.3

[soft remnant]

but everything else is massive

[fossil ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-low-taper-fade-ninja-low-taper-fade-ltf-massive-gif-6118422725555428304

[soft remnant]

but how would the body only be small and everything else massive

if it set the model scale

[pulsar whale]

fixed Y location and scaling

[shut oracle]

you know what else is massive

[soft remnant]

bro stfu

[shut oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-fortnite-gif-8112134725931169071

[soft remnant]

im gonna blow my brain out bro

[steady iron]

[shut oracle]

dont do that

[soft remnant]

might pull a mayhem albumb cover in almost 10 min

[shut oracle]

youd ruin your LOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[shut oracle]

i understood the joke

[soft remnant]

good

then stop

@finite flare do you know how to fix this issue

[shut oracle]

euronymous when the

[soft remnant]

console isnt giving errors

[finite flare]

it's blender scale

apply transforms

[astral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-fortnite-reaction-ninja-low-taper-fade-gif-1784137995500051652

[fossil ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-low-taper-fade-ninja-low-taper-fade-ltf-massive-gif-6118422725555428304

[shut oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ramos-lorna-shore-lorna-shore-will-gif-6049175763404505817

cinema

[finite flare]

ty

[tawny raptor]

select part of the body -> ctrl-L (not ctrl-A everything)

or just hide everything except mesh and then you can ctrl-A(lot of hiding tho)

models usually scaled by 100 times

(without shoes it can be 98)

[steady iron]

i need some help

[soft remnant]

yo

[steady iron]

trying to get these to work but it doesnt want to let me use one of them

[pulsar whale]

Is assimp.dll in main directory

[steady iron]

it is thats the weird part

[pulsar whale]

show console

[tawny raptor]

there's no "measure", it's jsut visible if model is 0.01

[steady iron]

?

[pulsar whale]

the console

[tawny raptor]

1 scroll will teleport you away from it

[tawny raptor]

such wont happen in 1:1 scale

[pulsar whale]

No, the console.

[soft remnant]

they arent massive anymore still inverted

alse

also

[pulsar whale]

assimp.dll is there so that's a good thing

[soft remnant]

my mesh is different

than mita

[tawny raptor]

models usually are inverted left to right

[soft remnant]

my meshes body and face make up the full head

face is half

[steady iron]

sorry i dont follow

[soft remnant]

body is other half

[tawny raptor]

that's all common things in modelling

[steady iron]

oh you meant the loader

[pulsar whale]

When you open the game, do you see black box with text?

That's the console

[soft remnant]

no but i mean like can i replace mita facelayer twice?

in addons

config

[tawny raptor]

face can be absent half of the time and have different render

[pulsar whale]

There's no FaceLayer...

[pulsar whale]

Delete FaceLayer

[soft remnant]

wtf

why

[pulsar whale]

Because it doesn't exists, even if it is, it only shows in certain part of the game

[soft remnant]

okay also

you know how we had to use mita hands right?

[pulsar whale]

That's weird, that's all it showed?

[soft remnant]

how do i make it visible ingame

i havent remove mita body in addons

its just gone

[pulsar whale]

It will be visible as long as you attach it on Body anyway

[soft remnant]

wait so nocturne

[tawny raptor]

entire model can be "body" and it'll work

[soft remnant]

how do i fix my scale and invert in dummy terms

[tawny raptor]

S 0.01

S 100

and you dont need to invert

[soft remnant]

as x and y?

[tawny raptor]

it should stay as imported

no, just S

[soft remnant]

wait wait

[tawny raptor]

[so X Y Z]

[soft remnant]

yeah

just change the whole thing to 0.01

xyz

for all of the meshes

?

[tawny raptor]

only those for export

[soft remnant]

ill try it with just the clothes first

[tawny raptor]

and not blindly "0.01" - but only those having different scale

one mod had 0.1 scale

[soft remnant]

bro they all cooked

[tawny raptor]

so I had just s 0.1 it

[soft remnant]

bro

listen okay

i dont understand

[tawny raptor]

if position is wrong they wont work either

[soft remnant]

but i do undersrtand

that im gonna scale clothes to 0.1

[tawny raptor]

model has to stay in whatever position it was initially

even if it's 27 degree NW

[soft remnant]

yeah i wont touch rotation or anything at all just scale

[tawny raptor]

scaling blindly won't help and rather break things even more...

[soft remnant]

yeah so what do you mean blindly

[tawny raptor]

default dumps are 0.01, mods can be whatever scale

[steady iron]

@pulsar whale i did get this to work for model but the other addons dissapear

[tawny raptor]

without understanding which exact is needed

[soft remnant]

bro its like im reading a fckn riddle rn

this just isnt clicking with me

dummy terms

pls

[tawny raptor]

original scale is just "2 blocks"

[soft remnant]

no clue wtf that is

[tawny raptor]

doubt that'll help you tho

[soft remnant]

2 blocks

tf

[tawny raptor]

it's just noticeaable on eye

told ya

[soft remnant]

bro

are you doing this on purpose or nah

[tawny raptor]

I never google this info

just scaled by 100 1st time I saw model

'cause it looked "off" to me

[soft remnant]

bro nothing your saying right now makes any sense

wtf is 2 blocks

what blocks

[tawny raptor]

forget it...

of default blender's grid

[soft remnant]

let me start from the start please

one at a time

please

so

first order of buisness

how do i fix my model being smaller than mita

[tawny raptor]

scale it either 10 or 100

[soft remnant]

now

[tawny raptor]

I dunno what source you got

[soft remnant]

when you say scale u mean the thing when i click n?

that scale

?

[tawny raptor]

Im scaling only with S

[soft remnant]

what

[tawny raptor]

this looks like global scale

[soft remnant]

what do you mean s

[tawny raptor]

for everythig at once

letter S...

[soft remnant]

is s a hotkey?

WAIOT

I UNDERSTAND

YEAH YEAH

mb

mb

mb

[tawny raptor]

entire kb is hotkey in blender...

that's how it works..

[steady iron]

[soft remnant]

okay so in s

my original scale is 1.000

what do you recommend i change it to

[tawny raptor]

I'd recommend get a new model dump. It's shouldn't be inverted vertically in the 1st place

it can view inverted left to right in blender tho

[soft remnant]

you mean this

?

is this a model dump

[tawny raptor]

original position also matters, it could've been changed

[soft remnant]

wait hold up

is that the model dump

[tawny raptor]

I dunno what you got

[soft remnant]

well okay

all i know is

[tawny raptor]

ad which version

btw it looks kinda 1:1

[soft remnant]

that my moka is matched at the same scale as that mita

[tawny raptor]

so you need S 0.01 it

[soft remnant]

that is mitas bones

[tawny raptor]

for default format

[soft remnant]

so go to 0.999 or 0.001?

[tawny raptor]

.01

I suppose you hit exra 0 after point...

better just skip it and start from . then

[soft remnant]

i cant even zoom in now its so small