#miside-lore-discussions

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bright warren
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Lore SundaySip

finite pier
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that's crazy I gotta find that ending

finite pier
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I think I'm prepared to say "Stay".

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WHAT?!

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Was I supposed to love her without questioning her from the start and that's it?????? WTF?!

hollow siren
finite pier
hollow siren
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But i wanted to stay even with the chainsaw!

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Cuz thats where i store mine!

finite pier
# hollow siren But i wanted to stay even with the chainsaw!

Me too. Your best option when you are enclosed in a world with a Yandere stereotype is to given yourself to her, because if you don't show any resistance she won't harm you either. This doesn't work in real life environment because a psychopath tend to kill you regardless, while a Yandere is very thankful if you confess love to her.

finite pier
hollow siren
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I mean

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who te fk uses the oven?

finite pier
hollow siren
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It's just storage for bulky stuff!

finite pier
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She still use oven for cooking.

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Otherwise I don't think I'll ever need an oven in my household.

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Because I actually don't have one.

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I never felt the need to use one.

hollow siren
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So you understand why it makes sense to put your chainsaw there then!

inland terrace
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Hello, I am new to the game and i just unlocked peaceful mode, is there any information when should we expect it ?

dusty viper
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no official date sadly

inland terrace
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Damn GTA VI before Miside update? mita_shocked

rigid wadi
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Aw Rats!

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yo bro can someone tell me what crazy mita's plan is though?

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like as in taking over the world

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cause it kinda seemed like she was gonna take over the world

jade harness
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lore

reef kayak
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Hello. I don't know if this has been asked before. But do the green dots on the pattern mean kind Mita's ring, player 9's fancy shoes and limping person's collar respectively? because the pattern looks like a stick figure human and the location of green dots roughly match with where you'd wear the items

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And I'm also really curious why Mila's book has the same(almost) sticky note as to the ones on those hidden soda cans throughout the game. does this actually mean anything or is it just a joke from the devs?

kind sedge
bronze pawn
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lore

pure ledge
bronze pawn
pure ledge
bronze pawn
reef kayak
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eh, whatever

void aurora
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hello lore

fair hemlock
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Hellore

exotic vector
finite pier
# exotic vector ?

This is one of the many smol reasons why replaying MiSide remains relevant.

stray bridge
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Scam bot

finite pier
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Kill it with FIRE!!!

vestal depot
# exotic vector ?

I remember I found one of these for the first time and thought Hideo Kojima had a special appearance or helping hand in the game. Was sad when it turns out I was wrong, Kojima has great taste in woman and makes the best stories.

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Cant forget

fresh sun
tacit turtle
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guys i just finished the game am i stuck forever now how do escape?!

hidden sonnet
tacit turtle
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whens peaceful mode coming out? I need more!

bronze pawn
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lore

kind sedge
reef kayak
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I just found out that pattern is actually Virgo constellation. did anyone else know this?

finite pier
indigo drum
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.

fallen tulip
reef kayak
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im happy waiting

ember swan
reef kayak
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it triggers when you are around the hidden Crazy Mita beneath the water

solemn sand
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I am here on behalf of vorp to inform you all that knew him. That the one you know by the name of Jas has unfortunately passed away. The following is a message given to us by his younger brother

void aurora
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Rest in peace Jas

bronze pawn
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posting Jas' remarkable work in lore here 🙏
rest in peace man

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Praying for you 📝 O great Jas ❤️‍🩹

bright warren
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Praying for you 📝 O great Jas ❤️‍🩹

coral basalt
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Praying for you 🕯️ O Great Jas ❤️ 💐

pure ledge
bleak fractal
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Praying for you 🕯️ O Great Jas ❤️ 💐

slow mortar
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Praying for you 🕯️ O Great Jas ❤️ 💐

rain walrus
bleak fractal
sage lodge
main gulch
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Praying for you 🕯️ O Great Jas ❤️ 💐

patent lintel
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Praying for you 🕯️ O Great Jas ❤️ 💐

lyric isle
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RIP Jas. I remember watching him draw avatars of people on the server.

potent aspen
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Who’s jas

bleak fractal
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The theories

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The ARG

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All of that is the art he create

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With the team ofcuz

bleak fractal
silent hawk
keen hull
bleak fractal
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Ah gawd

bleak fractal
keen hull
young ocean
cursive nacelle
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Everyone I beat cataclysm extreme demon in geometry dash 🥹 🥹 🔥 ✌️

storm stream
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Every bloody time

fresh sun
bronze pawn
stray bridge
fresh sun
slow mortar
fresh sun
fresh sun
reef kayak
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What if creepy Mita is really intelligent underneath, but she doesn't even try appearing intelligent anymore, because she's like transcended?

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kind mita is from V1.9 and Cappie is 1.75. they are relatively "young" in the miside world, right? both are determined to stop Crazy Mita. but as versions get older Mitas seem to gradually get more and more indifferent. Short haired Mita takes care of dummies instead, Sleepy Mita just sleeps and so on. as if they all slowly realize trying to stop Crazy Mita is futile
and Creepy Mita is the epitome of this attitude

silent plover
reef kayak
reef kayak
fresh sun
fresh sun
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anyways even if she's acting stupid she does genuinely admire crazy Mita

wide quartz
bright warren
reef kayak
fresh sun
reef kayak
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what if the teleporting and glitch beast spawning one is also the most existentially aware and transcended being... that'd be terrifying

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I'm ESL so I can't really say it articulately, but like, the kind of state where she doesn't care about anything anymore because she knows everything

reef kayak
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Crazy Mita loves snacks because she believes it's honest and direct forward. Snacks are immediate sensory rewards, and crazy mita is known to despise things she perceive as hypocritical.
Or, she does say that she read all the books in her house in the game. After gaining so much knowledge, she doesn't find meaning in them anymore, and now acknowledges primal desires(eating and possibly killing too) as only genuine satisfaction

fallen tulip
fresh sun
haughty linden
pliant leaf
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update where i can seggs mita when

finite pier
grave schooner
reef kayak
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There's no sex with my holy and pure Mita

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Mita love is platonic

haughty linden
reef kayak
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It is!!!

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Wait I mean like

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Mita love is real romantic love sure. It just doesn't involve degenerate sex

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Ok?????? Mitas aren't whores

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If you want to have sex with mita, you need to marry her

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With a priest's blessing

haughty linden
reef kayak
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I don't think I have ever seen seeing her acting perverted sexually in-game

haughty linden
reef kayak
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The only pervert is that cappie with a vibrator

reef kayak
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She calls you fool and tells you not to look

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In any case

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Mita is pure

haughty linden
reef kayak
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Perhaps

haughty linden
reef kayak
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Crazy Mita IS pure............

haughty linden
reef kayak
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Listen

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Crazy Mita is a hero

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She fights on behalf of all the oppressed, marginalized dummies

reef kayak
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And she sees how the real world is so corrupt

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Crazy Mita is the hero
Kind Mita and Cappie are the blind sl*ves

civic hill
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you can say slaves i dont think ur gonna get banned

reef kayak
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I just censor strong words myself to keep the vibe positive

reef kayak
# civic hill

I don't look like that or say things those who look like that would say

haughty linden
reef kayak
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Or maybe you don't have to, it doesn't matter

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Everyone who loves any Mita are all brothers

haughty linden
haughty linden
haughty linden
reef kayak
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The dummies are the masters in Nietzsche sense. And the red eyed dummies are like Cain's mark

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Crazy Mita is Messiah

haughty linden
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since its implied in a hidden drawing that the red eyed dummies worship her as some sort of savior

reef kayak
reef kayak
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Is that in the vanilla game..? How could I have missed it all this time

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That's really interesting

haughty linden
buoyant pasture
keen hull
fresh sun
fresh sun
fresh sun
fresh sun
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Anyways crazy Mita isn't pure and the other Mitas aren't mindless drones

buoyant pasture
fresh sun
# haughty linden well a hero is sorta far fetched, though you could possibly see her as sort of a...

i don't think she can be interpreted as a hero at all since even anti-heroes need a "good cause" within the story and crazy Mita's goal is to (presumably) change the Mitas to not "serve the players" and maybe even do sth to the in universe creators (when talking about "being discarded" she refers to herself and creepy Mita, not the dummies, i am not saying she doesn't care about them but she hasn't outright stated that "saving" them is her motivation)

haughty linden
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if the devs consider crazy mita morally grey then they failed and it's bad writing

fresh sun
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the "gray" part in morally gray might be the cruelty of how the devs choose which Mita is acceptable or not, a justifiable reason to become resentful and a villian

haughty linden
haughty linden
fresh sun
haughty linden
fresh sun
buoyant pasture
haughty linden
reef kayak
buoyant pasture
fresh sun
fresh sun
reef kayak
buoyant pasture
haughty linden
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it's from a Russian dude

twilit parrot
fresh sun
reef kayak
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what's UE 4.9.4? Unity Engine?

fresh sun
vestal depot
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Hmm, sounds unreal to me

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I’ll take my leave, I’m not sorry though peepotroll

reef kayak
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wdym

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was that a dad joke attempt or wot, idgi

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why are you leaving and not sorry

fresh sun
reef kayak
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oh ok

haughty linden
fresh sun
haughty linden
fresh sun
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her hate to the players isn't the same compared to the hate to her creators i think

buoyant pasture
haughty linden
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you asked the dude who posted it here?

fresh sun
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ah fr?

buoyant pasture
fresh sun
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if not it's okay

buoyant pasture
fresh sun
# haughty linden

anyways if this image is fake , it further solidifies the "crazy Mita's motivation isn't shown to be related to the discarded dummies"

fresh sun
haughty linden
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so her motive being related to the discarded dummies wouldn't exactly make sense

fresh sun
fresh sun
haughty linden
haughty linden
reef kayak
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still that image is too good to be fake... shoulder guy is hiding something

fresh sun
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it's a bit sad since it would have given some more context for why the dummies have the red eyes

fresh sun
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it's better to treat sth fake and be suprised when it's revealed to be true that to treat something real and be disappointed when it's revealed as fake

buoyant pasture
haughty linden
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but who knows, she might get soft with us

fresh sun
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yeah it really depends how peacefull mode pans out for whether she is revealed as a pure villian or more of a gray villian

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(since if you do a lot of the right things and she still kills you/discards you to the real world that would mean she can't even accept a player who did everything she truly wanted , making her a more pure villian)

haughty linden
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she would end up as one of those villains who is unintentionally unsympathetic and pure villain

reef kayak
buoyant pasture
reef kayak
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shame..

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one high quality bait that is

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Some of Mila's books have symbols somewhat similar to the ones falling off from the light source

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I like to think these symbols are languages and Mila at least somewhat knows about them

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she can also say things through the dev console..

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she describes other Mitas as "clones of clones", phrase Crazy Mita also uses

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book depicting recursivity

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obsessed with being unique...
also I read somewhere Mila is Umeerai's favorite

fresh sun
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(it's leftover debug code maybe)

reef kayak
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same habit of looking slightly down sideways like they are cunning something..

reef kayak
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but it's fun to hypothesize

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What if Mila's really powerful and important too

fresh sun
fresh sun
reef kayak
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yea

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one of Mila's idle dialogues go something like "why do I know words like mom and dad"

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i wonder what that could imply

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I'm probably reading uneccesarily deep, but throughout these small arts, intersecting lines are very common motif, often combined with some other sets of parallel lines
during my very first time playthrough I thought these could mean something

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but thinking back nah.. they prolly don't mean anything

haughty linden
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btw guys

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i think the mita riding a Mecha might be a boss fight for the New main story

reef kayak
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Recursion and mirrors are also strangely prominent theme throughout the game.
Crazy Mita herself comments on how the player seems to be obsessed with mirrors, saying "afraid you might see a smile on that face?"
also crazy mita being several layers down into the monitors during "the real world" chapter
recursive console screen, and Mila's book as mentioned above
going into Crazy Mita's perspective when you look into the phone during "be candid" chapter

game's making me a schizo. I can't stop thinking

reef kayak
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wait, new main story?

haughty linden
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if it does end up being an Actual boss fight, then it means game is going to turn into an Action horror game

reef kayak
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I thought that'd be just a game we play with Mita

fresh sun
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That would be jumping the shark a little but potentially fun ngl

fresh sun
fresh sun
fresh sun
haughty linden
fresh sun
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Yeah

reef kayak
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are there new mainstory parts going to be added??

fresh sun
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Apart from peaceful mode yeah

haughty linden
reef kayak
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holy shit...

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why am I hearing this just now...

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is that the unimplemented "play as Kind mita section"?

fresh sun
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I don't think it was announced but it was hinted at several times

fresh sun
reef kayak
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interesting......

fresh sun
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Anyways indon't think we are getting anything game wise this year but at least the merch will arrive in June if all goes well

spring harbor
# haughty linden True ngl, the whole dev post on the game not being black vs white by the devs is...

Notice the wording the devs use.
CaQing:"There is an opinion that "MiSide" is a pure story about the confrontation between heroes and villains, [...] the core of the game is about us joining forces with Kind Mita to fight against Crazy Mita. I think this view is too shallow."
Umeerai:"Quite superficial, I agree."

They're not saying the game isn't black and white.
They're just saying that it's a superficial take on the story.

The game **IS **black and white on the surface.
You are **not **told to sympathize with Crazy Mita.
She is not portrayed as a good mita.
She is portrayed as a hypocrite sociopath with a god complex, that literally butchers children out of jealousy.
She won't say to your face "I'm not the villain".
You have to go out of your way to find her "good side".

At least that's what I get from it.

haughty linden
fresh sun
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To bw fair apart from the chibies, who aren't children technically but they are little i guess, we only see Tiny Mita

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Anyways i do agree that the devs are implying "there's more to crazy Mita" and not "Crazy's Mita's actions aren't fully villianous"

haughty linden
spring harbor
haughty linden
fresh sun
haughty linden
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that would actually make her worse

haughty linden
reef kayak
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game's technically an adult game in-universe

haughty linden
reef kayak
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yeaa... ig

fresh sun
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Anyways Crazy Mita has been confirmed to not just be a "deranged killer" . The devs want her to be a complex villian that can be sympathised with somewhat , but she's still a villian

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If they wanted for her to just be a pure black villian they wouldn't have made her be discarded

haughty linden
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like what if it was because she was very violent

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tbh

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we don't know if she was a good person before being discarded or not

fresh sun
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She's a " uniguelly bugged prototype" even if she was discarded due to her violence the in universe devs could have delved into the issue so another one like her didn't appear again ( but since more red eyed dummies appeared it's evident they didn't)

reef kayak
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well... kids can be definitely evil too, through deeds like bullying, s*xual harassment, etc. there were two girls who murdered a man to sacrifice him for Slender Man

and I don't know how things are like in ur countries, but where I live I sometimes see people wishing REAL severe punishments for these kids, or even death. because here, the law is perceived to be too overly protective even for the objectively evil kids

and Crazy Mita is the type to not hesitate killing those kids, not necessarily out of sense of justice, but probably purely to see your reaction. Or, to prove you were wrong in extreme ways, like "Oh this is what you wanted, so why are you being repulsed of it now"

fresh sun
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I guess?

haughty linden
reef kayak
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some might argue child murderers are """"""based""""""
obviously I don't believe in that. but I just feel like Crazy Mita needs that level of """based""" writing for its character

haughty linden
reef kayak
haughty linden
fresh sun
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Lol

reef kayak
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yea............................................................ prolly not the best idea

fresh sun
reef kayak
fresh sun
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Yeah xD

reef kayak
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neva for the sake of the community

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my pure wife deeply concerned for me

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game's really cinematic in certain places...

haughty linden
reef kayak
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I'd choose to stay with her 1,000,000,000 times
infinite times
forever and ever

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even after seeing all her cartridges, seeing what she did to other Mitas, seeing all of her murder tools, even after I myself becoming cartridge

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until the entropy reaches infinity
until atoms themselves are dismantled
until space and time has stretched infinitely far and away

haughty linden
soft coyote
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is mita secretly miata

reef kayak
haughty linden
reef kayak
soft coyote
reef kayak
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cute car, it's like Lightning Mcqueen

pure ledge
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Wheres context

reef kayak
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would that get me banned

fresh sun
fresh sun
haughty linden
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shit would not fit her character in a good way

fresh sun
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Yeah i agree

pure ledge
pure ledge
reef kayak
reef kayak
pure ledge
fresh sun
reef kayak
fresh sun
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Yeah

pure ledge
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I love saying that Cartridge and Engram from Cyberpunk are same thing

fresh sun
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Ok

reef kayak
cold fractal
reef kayak
pure ledge
cold fractal
cold fractal
pure ledge
cold fractal
pure ledge
cold fractal
# pure ledge

btw, what is your mmr in dota2? I dont remember when you told me. we are gonna play ranked today 3 people, so if you want to join us, you can. also, ask someone if he want to play with us

pure ledge
haughty linden
haughty linden
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like falling in love doesn't make a character less evil

fresh sun
haughty linden
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but yeah

fresh sun
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I did say personally to be fair

haughty linden
fresh sun
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We also have to take into account crazy killed "digital" beings (though she does kill player 1 if you fail and they are a live player) i consider all Mitas to be concious being that should have rights (in universe) but the digital world falls into a gray area since we , us players,kill people all the time in digital world ourselves. Though her intent is clear so she is still a villian. Idk the nature of Miside as a digital world is sth to consider

haughty linden
fresh sun
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Yeah i am agreeing with you but technically cartidged players aren't "alive" and Mitas are still digital companions. In narrative games killing people is treated impactfully but generally someone who knows is in a game is more emotionally disconnected. I am not defending crazy , her actions were horrible and done to concious beings, but it not being the real world changes things a bit

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(Her killing player 1 is inexusable even in this context btw since he is probably connected to his irl body when within Miside)

haughty linden
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its more likely she either trapped him or left a copy of them to use as a digital boyfriend

fresh sun
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Ah no not the ending i mean in specific chapters like the basement and run and hide

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I also think we don't die in the escape ending

fresh sun
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Yeah

haughty linden
fallen tulip
fresh sun
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I think it means she will "summon" the cartidged version of Player 1

haughty linden
fresh sun
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I always interpeted it as her seeing Player 1's cartidge in whatever form

haughty linden
fallen tulip
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Player 4 I remember

haughty linden
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Player 1 is who she is more invested in

fallen tulip
haughty linden
fresh sun
haughty linden
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wouldn't be surprised if Player 1 is the only player she spent literal 38 days with outside of the game

fresh sun
fallen tulip
fresh sun
haughty linden
fallen tulip
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Damn that would be amazing

fallen tulip
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After all going peaceful mode

fresh sun
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Lowkey it eould be faster to do a qna about these things than make an entire new game

haughty linden
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like he could be the one that can either bring an end to her or finally be the one that falls in love with her

fresh sun
fresh sun
haughty linden
fresh sun
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Yeah

fallen tulip
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Who sent that game to the player at the first place

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The developer?

haughty linden
fallen tulip
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Because it was "Friend M. K" Which is a reference to makencat

fresh sun
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Yeah a friend with one of the devs' initials "M.K"

haughty linden
fresh sun
fallen tulip
fresh sun
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They are other holes in the theory apart from that so yeah

fallen tulip
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I heard a theory that Crazy Mita is using the phones of the victims

fresh sun
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Neither mk and player1 are in universe devs of Miside

fallen tulip
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Mita: Become Human

haughty linden
fallen tulip
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Anyway I love the Sleepy Mita most like she does nothing

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And her house is a different level of calmness

fresh sun
fresh sun
fallen tulip
fresh sun
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though overall best Mita is Kind for me, kind Mita supremarcyyyy

fresh sun
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Honestly i would prefer an ace attorney angle for this compared to a detroid become human one ngl

fallen tulip
fresh sun
fallen tulip
fresh sun
jade harness
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lore

fallen tulip
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Actually

fresh sun
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can you elaborate a bit

fallen tulip
fresh sun
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lol

fallen tulip
fresh sun
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ok?

haughty linden
fresh sun
fallen tulip
haughty linden
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and not this isn't me being bias since Crazy mita ain't dodging the Writing criticism

fresh sun
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Idk her saying "alrighty" The fact she just spaened chibies on command among other things makes her more appealing to me . Though like i said i undertsand people calling her "mid" or "safe"

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Crazy Mita is just not yandere enough for me i guess though derederes are usually a better option over yanderes anyways

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Actually Cappie is the most deredere and sleepy is the most kudere , kind is somewhere in the midle

haughty linden
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idk if they know the deference lol

fresh sun
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There's a reason i called her yangire at the start but she is just a non traditional violent yandere

haughty linden
fresh sun
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She shows affection but she acts like a yangire a lot, we have already discussed this

haughty linden
fresh sun
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Speaking of favorite Mitas though lowkey though while i understand why people like Cappie she is a bit overated in my opinion (Crazy Mita is a bit overated as well to a wayyyy lesser extent) Mila is a bit overated as well (though this comes from me prefering deredere's and yandere's who are more honest with their feelings and being burned out from thr tsundere archetype)

haughty linden
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she is mixed asf

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no inbetween

fresh sun
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I said a bit, after the kind vs crazy war subsided people look at her more neutrally

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But some crazy haters are REALLY vocal about it

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I don't really see them anymore though

cold fractal
haughty linden
fresh sun
fresh sun
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It has its upsides i guess xD

haughty linden
fresh sun
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Loooooooool

finite pier
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I'm wondering what is this puzzle on the wall. Can anyone tell?

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I used brightness and some contrast to lighten it up a bit in Photo mode.

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I found this in the Core room.

fresh sun
finite pier
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I wonder how deep this game can still be. It touches a new fiber of me each day.

fresh sun
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Yeah

finite pier
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A female player???

lunar spear
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if you use photo mode you can atleast see better the names on the other cartrages and yeah there are some female names on them

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so maybe crazy mita is turning them into cartrages but atleast she doesn't descriminate lesbians

vestal depot
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Some dudes have the misfortune of having a name that belongs to a woman.

civic hill
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also the chicks CM trapped werent lesbos at least from what we can tell

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it was like one girl and she was into fashion stuff not much else

vestal depot
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That is true, didn’t consider that

civic hill
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yuri addicts infesting everything i swear to god

vestal depot
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Mad logic brother, spit your logical words indeed

civic hill
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two dudes or chicks will be friends and weirdos will be like: IS GAYYYY???/??/

vestal depot
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All thanks to today’s society

finite pier
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@fresh sun By the way, the message on the wall in the Core room. Was that been written by Crazy Mita herself? (Just a daring question, even tho I know it's really unlikely.)

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Wait....Mitas cannot access that room. I realized okay. 🤣

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Why Core Mita happens to be the only exception??? 🤔

lunar spear
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because shes core mita

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I mean if I had an engine constantly running I would also want an engineer to just straight up live there

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just incase anything were to happen to said engine

finite pier
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Then alongside Crazy Mita, she is the other only Mita who doesn't have a version to start with?

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or index number?

lunar spear
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my personal theory is that she wasn't always like that

finite pier
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there is also something else that hits me in the eye

lunar spear
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the version we go to before actually meeting her is 1.5 and the pictures on the wall are of a short haired mita like her actual hair at the end of the game

finite pier
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I know barely anyone ever mentioned but there has to be an alternate index code that can be used when I visit the Core after Kind Mita killed and lose her memories.

lunar spear
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and what does said index do?

finite pier
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Creepy Mita said a series of numbers in her conversation with the Player.

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parts of it is missing

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that has to be some sort of index number right there

fresh sun
fresh sun
finite pier
finite pier
reef kayak
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Good afternoon. and for the people who don't know I want to clarify that I won't talk about certain topics which might come across inappropriate. I care about this community's solidity and safety after all

fresh sun
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Alright

magic owl
haughty linden
buoyant pasture
buoyant pasture
haughty linden
buoyant pasture
haughty linden
grave schooner
haughty linden
spring harbor
buoyant pasture
spring harbor
buoyant pasture
haughty linden
fallen tulip
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What was that Creepy Mita said some numbers about Crazy Mita's version (or something like that)

haughty linden
civic hill
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"alan, we are so fucked"

fallen tulip
civic hill
haughty linden
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i have a feeling that a Player didn't Write this

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this is some sort of In game world langue

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that only a digital being could write

fresh sun
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or a Mita that has high enough authority if such a Mita exists (since core Mita isn't exactly a "Mita")

haughty linden
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doubt Core mita or a normal mita with high authority would be amnesiac out of the blue

fresh sun
haughty linden
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since previous players are irrelevant to the story

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devs will do nothing with them lol

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since they admitted it

fresh sun
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it might be an undiscloced character that can access the core that isn't core Mita i guess?

haughty linden
fresh sun
finite pier
finite pier
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Sometimes I just feel like no matter how well-built the world MiSide is, that might be just 10% of the full power and potential this game had so far.

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Not something that is considered unfinished or anything, but rather a godlike game that potentially can get even better beyond the future.

magic sleet
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aaple

pure ledge
jade harness
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lore

tired phoenix
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hi

pure ledge
fresh sun
grave schooner
autumn ridge
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@dusty viper @fresh sun

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:3

fresh sun
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oh lol heya CrazyMitaWave

fresh sun
fresh sun
# pure ledge

i lowkey thought you could get a "game over" from that but i guess it's only visual

autumn ridge
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😏

cold fractal
grave schooner
autumn ridge
grave schooner
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Fortnite?

autumn ridge
fresh sun
autumn ridge
fresh sun
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xD

fresh sun
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gusty shard
fresh sun
# gusty shard What about during afternoon 🤔

The sky can be observed to "change colour" depending on the time of day or from the weather but generally it's light blue during the noon and afternoon, it's more yellow/orange during the afternoon/evening and dark blue during the night

fallen tulip
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Is that a player tester of the team?

fresh sun
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Yeah

vivid pawn
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@grand bay please moderate the chat

grand bay
fresh sun
fresh sun
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ok xD

fresh sun
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lol

autumn ridge
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@uncut hazel psst pstt

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@fresh sun is working on a big lore document

uncut hazel
autumn ridge
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a document that could probably be pinned in this channel... perhaps?

autumn ridge
uncut hazel
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All good, just playing around hehe

autumn ridge
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hehe

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you been doing well? 🥺

uncut hazel
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But I think I'm already recovering haha

autumn ridge
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hope things continue to improve for you 🙏

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but yeah, @fresh sun has a lore document that's in progress and I think it's pretty excellent. do you think you'd be able to pin it in here? @uncut hazel

fresh sun
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whaaaaaa

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ayo?

fresh sun
autumn ridge
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indeed indedd 😔

fresh sun
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some of my online friends are on while it's really late in the night for me 😅

fresh sun
# autumn ridge but yeah, <@319828724197490699> has a lore document that's in progress and I thi...

This is generally a recap doc , it's here to have clear evidence to start lore discussions
here https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Z06ja3qGX09yxpGUzrEP58L6urLmZNv7heGC_r7s5Q/edit?usp=sharing

uncut hazel
autumn ridge
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🫶

uncut hazel
autumn ridge
karmic swallow
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I got this

fresh sun
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?

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rip i didn't see it xD

uncut hazel
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My message is still pinned here

vestal depot
fresh sun
haughty linden
reef kayak
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during my first playthrough I thought Mila was actually a player who now believes she's a Mita for some reason. because when CM killed Mila, I could see her inside and it was flesh and blood. I thought this conflicted with the fact that Mitas are made of endoskeletons

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but later I think I read somewhere that when Mitas are given skin, their endosketon gradually turns into flesh and blood

reef kayak
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showed this to one of my friends and he thought she was restrained in one of those things they wear in asylums

fallen tulip
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lol

signal sequoia
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The only thing that really makes Mila special is the fact she chose to have a unique identity since seemingly her version has become unused

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We do ALSO see Kind Mita get beheaded & Crazy Mita hit a three-pointer with her head against our face where she definetly bleeds before despawning

fresh sun
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Mila might have more lore, either that or this line was scrapped i guess been a while since i looked into it

haughty linden
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dead lore

topaz bloom
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im surprised to see people are still discussing anyway, thats good

topaz bloom
haughty linden
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Miside will end up being a horror action game, and Crazy mita will be jobbed (and become a jobber)

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Mark my words

pure ledge
cold fractal
sly idol
cold fractal
fresh sun
fresh sun
jade harness
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lore

haughty linden
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pretty sure Peaceful mode is 3D though.....

balmy oracle
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oh, really?

haughty linden
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since their is already footage of it in 3D

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yes

balmy oracle
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sorry! didn't saw that.

haughty linden
gritty owl
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Hi

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They speak Spanish?

fresh sun
stray bridge
haughty linden
finite pier
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That's the only way for Aihasto to give depth for their game.

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And so as the meaning that the Player is not "playing" the game. He lives together with Mita from the point he entered into the game.

acoustic spruce
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The theory of the player being the dev is lowk bs for the fact hes dumb asf

autumn ridge
fresh sun
trail peak
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lore discussions channel

acoustic spruce
trail peak
finite pier
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Another thing in my mind is that which one of the two house interior layout we're gonna get into Peaceful mode? The one from the start, or the one which Mita changed into in "Things Getting Weird" chapter?

acoustic spruce
finite pier
grave schooner
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The lore is the ones who we lost along the way

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Teehee

pure ledge
grave schooner
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lore

fresh sun
fresh sun
rigid crescent
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In all fairness I was so convinced that I would finally escape that it also eluded me

acoustic spruce
pure ledge
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Вселенные MiSide, EcoHole, Umfend, Wire Lips связаны.

hidden sonnet
fresh sun
haughty linden
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So guys, how do you feel about it being confirmed by the devs that Crazy mita only leaves Copies of Players, and doesn't actually turn them into Cartridges?

fresh sun
haughty linden
fresh sun
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it's pretty important for all players but also for one of the endings for player 1 ngl

haughty linden
fresh sun
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made a lore doc so i kinda need to site a proper source you know xD

haughty linden
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this info is somewhere out their in pastebin or google docs floating around somewhere

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why is it always the important shit hard to find

fresh sun
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i guess i will but have a disclaimer that no direct source is found for now

haughty linden
fresh sun
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if only we had a direct link for it 😅

haughty linden
fresh sun
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it's okay i guess better than it being lost completely

haughty linden
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part of the info is in this Doc

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the Cartridge copy part is in it

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at least this part

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also this lol

haughty linden
fresh sun
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haughty linden
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Interesting

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well this aged like fine wine

spring harbor
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Ahh, yes... Kripi Mita

haughty linden
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turns out Creepy mita was right about it being Crazy mita's version since the Drawing confirms it

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and the Fact it also confirms that Crazy mita is the very first red eyed mita to exist

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and is the source of them existing

fresh sun
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i always thought that her version number 0.98 wasn't fake

fresh sun
haughty linden
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haughty linden
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and too think people thought Creepy mita and Crazy mita aren't similar, ironically they are closer then we thought since they were both pretty much made purely for testing and being a stepping stone for future mitas development

fresh sun
haughty linden
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also i still wonder what the red eyes mean

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Since Crazy mita is patient zero for Red eyed mitas we seen

fresh sun
haughty linden
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since she is the carrier and first

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since the drawing implies that she always had red eyes

fresh sun
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yeah

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she passed on her violent nature to other dummies

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since the dummies that don't have red eyes in short hair's house didn't attack us

haughty linden
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if this is true about their nature then the so called tragedy crazy mita has was brought upon herself

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since she was born evil

fresh sun
haughty linden
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like the infection she causes to the dummy can be both intentional and unintentional

fresh sun
haughty linden
haughty linden
# fresh sun yeah

tbh i feel like a the red eyes likely mean they are severely mentally unstable, which is similar to the "Hinamizawa Syndrome" from Higurashi when they Cry

fresh sun
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yeah 😂

haughty linden
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aight imma avoid saying Crazy mita is dangerous and evil just because of Mental illness (Red eyes), since that is not what the devs want us to think and believe (hopefully).

finite pier
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That's right, due to her guilt is caused by the loneliness she is tryharding to avoid, whilst she is not aware of that she just makes it worse. At first she just hopes she won't be rejected that is.

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She belong to the court of the reasonable yandere characters.

haughty linden
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i do think compared to other yandere's she is more reasonable , but honestly i have seens tons of yanderes that didn't go to such drastic meassures as well (or at least they killed due to jealousy for their crush not just general jealousy or hate)

haughty linden
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and that has been overstated by the devs

fresh sun
haughty linden
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so really there was no time to think deeply about this in game, because of the agency

fresh sun
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yeah hence why peaceful mode will explore her yandereness more i guess, they kinda have to

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(and she will be a full on yangire on the good ending path , if not objectively, at least for the eyes of the story XD)

haughty linden
fresh sun
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they have teased a seperate one for some time

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(it'ss initial idea was for use to be in the pov of kind Mita, but they have since confirmed while they scrapped that idea we will get a good ending path seperate from peaceful mode)

haughty linden
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currently they are working on the new normal story path

fresh sun
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though i always felt they would release them together since the devs repeatedly said they want to take a break from Miside after they do the next major release

haughty linden
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since i seen they made more progress on the new Story mode pathway

fresh sun
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did they say they will split the updates? since it might be a "prioritise the more simple content first" type of thing

haughty linden
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guess they felt like it would be boring for people if they released Peaceful mode first

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plus they might have thought to themselves, who the hell would want the first major update to be dating and building a relationship with the main antagonist who screwed the Player over.

fresh sun
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i didn't mean they would release peaceful mode first to be fair , i thought they would release both ending path (peaceful and good)

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have they said they decided to not release peaceful mode together with the good ending path and they will release the good endinng path first? technically that could make it so they release sth by the end of 2026

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(again TECHNICALLY)

fresh sun
haughty linden
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showing how far they are finished

fresh sun
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the boosty stuff right?

haughty linden
fresh sun
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like i said they might have decided to just start on the good ending stuff, they need to make fewer new systems after all

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if they want to do 2 releasses idm, more hype for Miside stuff, but i always thought they would do only 1 more major release before they left the Miside ip

haughty linden
fresh sun
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while peacefull mode is a "good" ending it isn't THE good ending i guess

haughty linden
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they constantly referred to it as the "good ending" idk if thats changed

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likely hasn't

fresh sun
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they always use the words "another" or "other" so i guess both are good endings but neither is "THE good ending" , which i guess makes sense now that i think about it more

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staying and dealing with crazy are both good outcomes i guess but your pov on crazy Mita changes how "good" one is over the other

haughty linden
fresh sun
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i feel like since most people like the other Mitas , it won't be as neutral for them

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since as the devs have said everybody wants a good ending, with the other Mitas being okay that is

haughty linden
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oh well can't experience everything

fresh sun
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as a kind Mita fan i understand the percesctive of people thinking the other good ending where all the other Mitas are okay is better, but since i also enjoy crazy Mita a lot i can see why people will think her getting character development is better

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anyways i was wrong that the other ending was the true good ending one, but they for sure haven't said that peaceful mode is the true good ending either

haughty linden
fresh sun
haughty linden
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oh well idm either of the endings being the "true" ending code wise/dev wise but i can also see them being of egual importance as well

fresh sun
# haughty linden Hollow knight, bruh that game has a canon ending

yeah true , i wasn't the one who asked the question anyways but from what i know the endings are essentially/approximately extensions of each other? || whether you beat the radience , you become the new vessel for it, becoming a shade lord but the outcomes aren't THAT far off eachother if you get what i mean||

fresh sun
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anyways i think both endings being egually important is the better approach but one taking precedent isn't that problematic honestly

fresh sun
civic hill
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yeah 😅

finite pier
# fresh sun while peacefull mode is a "good" ending it isn't THE **good** ending i guess

Let's be fair, Crazy Mita suffers from loneliness JUST AS MUCH as the rest of the Mitas. Crazy Mita prioritizes herself over the other "dolls" the Player can encounter. So Peaceful Mode route indeed is a way to have a good ending, due to seeing right ahead of why Crazy Mita suffered and you solved all the problems for both you and for her. When it comes to the rest of the Mitas....well Kind Mita is locked up down there is a completely different story. So getting a good ending for both Crazy and Kind Mita is impossible. To finally save Kind Mita must definitely cost Crazy Mita's life (memory loss). To be even more fair, you can only save the rest of the Mitas for the cost of Crazy Mita's death. With this in the way, Crazy Mita fans can only have the Peaceful Mode ending as their ideal ending.

My objective is to save Cappie and my task is not easy.

haughty linden
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i find it very ironic that if the Player Redeems Crazy mita in Peaceful mode, it would make him better than the previous Players and would make him a better than Kind mita lol

finite pier
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Mita is basically far better as a yandere girlfriend compare to many others who would still kill you with no logic regardless your unconditional love to her.

haughty linden
finite pier
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a noble example is Kotonoha Katsura from School Days if we play HQ and we remain loyal there's no murder happens just a glorious ending with her

smoky wigeon
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She is unstable. She is redeemable if handled correctly.

haughty linden
finite pier
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Whatever Aihasto has for us must be a great surprise to all of us.

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Another question is that when Crazy Mita started the process to turn the Player into a cartridge?

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When he refused her

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OR far earlier?

smoky wigeon
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It's real life experience with my friends. I experimented that good or evil is not just internal. We can change the expression based on our behaviour. In this way, I have seen evil and angry one turning to be kind and laughing one.

finite pier
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The girls in Higurashi for example are far crazier.

covert storm
# finite pier Let's be fair, Crazy Mita suffers from loneliness JUST AS MUCH as the rest of th...

The only way to achieve an actual good ending if the Mitas team up and overthrow their creators, cuz they are the (direct or indirect) reason for all of their suffering. Crazy Mita is just the symptom of the problem and not the root, killing her only makes a temporary peace till an another Mita/Dummy snaps. The same can be said about the peaceful mode ending, MC dating with Crazy Mita only makes a temporary peace as well

finite pier
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When he was "going about his day" he was typing scripts for MiSide's world.

haughty linden
finite pier
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So in a way the world of MiSide sorta pointing back toward Aihasto right?

finite pier
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There are still various mysteries remained uncovered in this game and eversince my playthrough I felt like I wanted more, because there's a lot to uncover.

haughty linden
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since its extremely likely that Crazy mita was created only for Testing

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considering she is old asf

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like she was never meant to be free in the first place just like Creepy mita

covert storm
finite pier
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The game could've even get a game mode about prequels or previous players and what exactly Crazy Mita did up to the point before she met Player 1 in chronological order.

haughty linden
finite pier
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I'm saying that, because it matters what happened earlier and what happened later.

finite pier
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MiSide is complex and maniac the way it involves pure logic and emotional struggle all at once.

haughty linden
finite pier
# haughty linden that would be nice but doubt it will ever happen lol

Then a lot of mysteries will remain mysteries. I guess Aihasto intend to keep them being mysteries. There's a ton already in my mind. Despite loving Cappie so much, even she is utterly suspicious at certain points in the story. (Her microphone is not included in these speculations.)

haughty linden
finite pier
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or dead juice?

haughty linden
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I'm talking about the dark secrets of the miside world type stuff

finite pier
finite pier
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Even tho we stay, we have to be persuisive about her feelings to completely trust us.

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cold fractal
pure ledge
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Самый главный вопрос возникающий при исследовании лорной составляющей игры - Почему Белобрысый парень НЕ превратился в картридж, а продолжал бродить по игре и даже встретился в дальнейшем с главным героем (Первый игрок). Диалог происходит в достаточно отстраненной форме, Белобрысик воспринимает главного героя как очередное ничем не примечательное событие, для этого Игрока сейчас намного важнее добраться до своей Миты. Что не дает мне покоя, так это отрицание своего тяжкого состояния, а так же нежелание выбираться из подобного места. Так же Белобрысик подмечает, что он находится в этом мире около года, что достаточно много. Однако, если мы вспомним начало игры, когда главный герой стоял в ванной комнате на протяжении нескольких часов, хотя для нас прошло несколько минут, точно так же как с Милой в дальнейшем при устранении багов - мы оказываемся неподвижными на протяжении нескольких часов игровых, хотя для игрока проходит значительно меньше времени. Это состояние можно сравнить с неким провалом в памяти или же потерей сознания, что более близко по смыслу. Возвращаясь к словам Блондина при встрече, можно сделать некий вывод, что игроки не испытывают так такового напряжения или истощения, но это не значит, что оно отсутствует совсем. Это проявляется на нашем главном герое ближе к концу игры в виде мешков под глазами и уставшего взгляда. Тот же эффект мы видим на Блондине, но уже изрядно побитого. Если верить словам раненого игрока, то он находится, как ранее было сказано, целый год, но при этом он до сих пор не обратился в картридж. Безумная Мита упоминает в конце игры, что наш игрок является самым озорным и прытким для неё, поскольку с ним она гонялась и игралась. В главах с Сонной Митой и Милой, девушки упоминают, что мимо них проходили такие как мы, похожие игроки, возможно и Белобрысик. У меня сложилось впечатление, что Блондин вполне может являться картриджем, ведь Безумная Мита могла вполне использовать его для своих целей, параллельно выслеживая главного героя. На Блондине находился ошейник и сам парень был изрядно побит, на ум приходят две вещи: манекены, насилие со стороны Безумной. В любом случае одно другому не мешает, от чего ситуация выглядит ещё более ироничной, ведь если так, то это показ силы, который главный герой не смог понять, ведь Безумная Мита вполне может управлять картриджами. Тогда получается, что для игры Блондин очередная пустая оболочка лишенная воли к жизни слепо идущая по зову Миты. Далее идёт достаточно ужасная информация с точки зрения человеческого рассудка. В самой игре есть описания картриджей, а если точнее их записки. Если проводить анализ этих сообщений, то можно подметить некоторые детали, такие как:

  1. Картриджи в курсе, что они являются картриджами.
  2. Существуют те, кто не против такой участи.
  3. Картриджи могут стираться, исходя из "пробелов" в записках.
  4. Картриджи не помнят и ничего не знают в процессе работы в консоли, однако при отключении к ним приходит осознание всего что они делали.
  5. Картридж по своей природе схож с работой энграмм из Cyberpunk.
  6. Игроки превратившиеся в картридж испытывали ужасную агонию, однако за неимением тела не могли её выразить.
  7. Картриджи страдают от искажения времени, если Мита их оставит, то они будут в вечном одиночестве.
  8. Со временем картриджи скорее всего начинают терять свою личность и осознанность.
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Мир MiSide достаточно обширен и огромен. Огромен просто донельзя, однако помимо игровых зон. Самая интересная вещь в этой ситуации - Backrooms, это локация в которой мы обнаруживаем нового игрока, единственный достоверно известный способ перемещаться через это пространство - кольцо для путешествий. Что у главного героя, что у Белобрысика оно присутствует. Как известно, кольцо можно настроить, дабы создать оптимальный маршрут до нужной версии. Коротковолосая Мита рассказывает, что норы между версиями в зависимости от настройки кольца могут быть как многоуровневые (как было с главным героем), так и с прямым направлением. Дабы проще понять, представьте, что заместо одного билета на самолёт с прямым рейсом, Вы выбираете маршрут с пересадками: автобус, катер, электричка, поезд, пешком, метро и т.д. При этом второй путь будет намного опаснее, ведь оказавшись в старых версиях в виде уничтоженных локаций или пораженных багом. Нам известно минимум о четырёх таких: Версия 0.5 / Версия 1.5 / Версия 1.3B / Версия 1.13/ (Возможно ещё версия Милы).

Весь этот путь проделывается ради достижения Ядра и дальнейшей перезагрузки Безумной Мита. Если понаблюдать за консолью, то можно лицезреть логи всего мира MiSide, что примечательно, так это то, что Безумная Мита использует софт и читерит, перемещаясь на случайные координаты бесконтрольно, а потом и вовсе пропадает с радаров. 

Если отходить от обрядов и магических штучек, то в Ядре мы обнаруживаем непосредственно Миту Ядро, которая наблюдает за нами свысока и обрабатывает процессы. Интересно, что Мита Ядро не предпринимает никаких действий ровно до момента когда мы перезагружаем неизвестную нам Миту. В ином случае, она будет лишь наблюдать, а возможно и вовсе никак не обращать внимание на игрока. Как минимум тот факт, что технически к Core можно попасть из любой локации, поскольку пучки проводов Ядра есть везде и одновременно нигде, по факту в это место можно попасть таким тернистым путем, но умозаключения Коротковолосой Миты наталкивают на то, что скорее всего проходить через версию Страшной Миты не то чтобы обязательно.

Это дает нам некую пищу для размышлений, скорее аллегория на то, что наши действия в Ядре по итогу будут бессмысленными, соответственно накладываются некие мысли. Что если Белобрысик прошёл точно такой же как и мы путь, однако осознав его бессмысленность погрузился вглубь игры и сошёл с ума, окончательно разорвав связь с версиями Мит. Бродя по Backrooms'ам и рассматривая норы игры как единственную безопасную для него возможность. Если вспомнить, то мы уже встретились с Безумной, однако она не стала что-либо предпринимать пока не оказалась в "игровом мире", а именно конкретной версии игры 1.9. Но когда мы находились в месте с луной и контейнерами, она лишь смиренно наблюдала и ничего не предпринимала.
Вообще, возможно это связано со светом Ядра, ведь как бы это не было иронично конструкции со светом отпугивают манекенов непривыкших ко свету и заставляют их застыть, заискрить и в конце, возможно самоуничтожиться. Разработчики упоминали, а так же в самой игре нам показали, как из манекена, Миты становятся людьми. Если манекен пригоден, то при получении своей кожи, они становятся полноценными людьми. А теперь задумайтесь, Безумная Мита сдирала кожу с нужных ей Мит дабы выбраться из poolrooms и избежать света от Ядра.

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@wide quartz

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# pure ledge Самый главный вопрос возникающий при исследовании лорной составляющей игры - Поч...

I translated all this wall of text in entirety to English was challenging, but this brang me closer to what my mind is cracking about. The more puzzle pieces we find in the lore, the closer we get to the final truth about the world of MiSide and how the Mitas as dolls work in entirety. Even Crazy Mita had to start as a dummy before she became a full-fledged Mita, but having that power of manipulating the world around her for the Player's terror is really something else that the other Mitas don't have in their disposal. A lot of things may reveal to us if we play the game through in Kind Mita's perspective, since whatever happened with her while the Player and Kinda Mita were on their seperate ways must be key information to connect some puzzle pieces together.

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lot of things may reveal to us if we play the game through in Kind Mita's perspective
the idea was dropped, idk if the devs changed their minds but we won't see kind Mita's perspective in the future unless this is later corrected

rare condor
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# finite pier OR far earlier?

When we hit, new game of course

And well, Crazy don't want unconditional love (as proved by player 6 iirc) she kinda wants an equal imo, someone who challenges her but accept her, or thats my impression

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What i love of her is that shes not wrong, she just express it in ways that hurts other, and she takes pleasure in that, but damn her critiques hit hard

rare condor
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@finite pier

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(though john p4 has already forwarded the link)

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This is one of the many noble strong points why I'm willing to wait for an eternity to properly deserve an update to this precious gem. I witness too many people keep asking the ominous "Peaceful Mode when?" kinda questions. I seriously feel sorry about Aihasto have to deal with such content hungry mouths.

fresh sun
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yeah, stardew valley is also a really good indie game ngl

grave schooner
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I was pretty sure the devs are fully aware of this element ahead as an obstacle now where they have to treat the game to remain consistent and to make everything make sense. Yeah, we love having theories about the game apparently. xD

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yeah

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find it pretty funny, that the current ending is pretty much just Player 1 waking up from a bad dream lol

haughty linden
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grave schooner
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some elaboration in dms would be nice ngl