miside-lore-discussions

[winter ferry]

Huh, that actually sounds believable... unless we don't count the player that was helping Mita with the teleporter

And, since we no longer heard of him, we mostly ended up killing him anyways lol

[pearl vale]

ohh right

didnt remember that player

[winter ferry]

I believe you. He only appears for a few seconds and his only purpose was to alert Crazy of their presence

[pearl vale]

https://tenor.com/view/mita-miside-cappie-cool-mita-sunflower-gif-15992507359702628934

[winter ferry]

And, excuse me but that was the stupidest thing Kind Mita ever did. Like, I understand her benevolence of saving him, but the fact that we didn't run into him later in the game doesn't help.

Or at least a brief mention

No. He's only existence was being a plot device

Not even NPC status, heck

[pearl vale]

yeah, thats right.. I dont know why kind mita decided to do that

randomly pointing to the console and telling the mc "take it, turn it off"

it was safer for her and him to take the key, get out of there, and go with him to Cappie's version

[winter ferry]

Imagine an alternate reality where Kind actually used her brain and decided to leave Crazy with her own matters. Who knows, maybe they would have managed to ran with a pre-death Cappie?

Damn, so many posibilities for that scenario

[pearl vale]

Kind Mita went from the core to her version. She could have taken us ti the core directly the whole time...

[winter ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-tf2-say-that-again-say-that-again-gif-20722603

WDYM?

[pearl vale]

In the end of the game, shr went from the core to her version (the begining of the game)

Which means.. She could have taken us to the core the whole time..

Or thats what I think

Maybe from the core you can go to any version, who knows

[winter ferry]

Yeah... because, ||after her death|| the main door leads to the core...

[pearl vale]

YEAH THATS RIGHT

[winter ferry]

Oh shit why I didn't thought of that...

[pearl vale]

I just thought of that rn too

Lool

[winter ferry]

Well, there comes a point where MiSide' in-universe logic ends up contradicting itself...

Like how Kind can appear in unexpected places

[pearl vale]

Or Miside is a really good idea but bad executed, or there is stuff Im missing

[winter ferry]

No no, most of its worldbuilding is left in a way that makes it feel mysterious

Like, who is the Giant Mita

Why Creepy looks like that

[woven cedar]

it's more that it makes the plot of the game somewhat pointless

[pearl vale]

I always thought it could be Crazy Mita

[winter ferry]

Actually its the same model, so that just makes it more confusing

[pearl vale]

When you jump from Tiny Mita's window, that giant Mita sees you and smiles like Crazy Mita, so..

We need another FaQ for the Kind Mita stuff

[winter ferry]

Ah... that scene

Me I was referring to this another one

[pearl vale]

Maybe it was her, since she suddenly stops following us when that Giant Mita hits the hall to break it

[winter ferry]

Yep, is her

Any Mita with twintails is her

That's my rule of thumb

[pearl vale]

Realizing the Kind Mita thing, made me be a little dissapointed tbh

[pearl vale]

Frfr

[winter ferry]

The fact of her version being connected to the core?

[pearl vale]

Yep

[winter ferry]

Yeah... not even I can justify that plothole

Like... you couldn't open the door because... Crazy didn't let you?

IDK

[pearl vale]

It made the thing that Short Haired Mita showed us something stupid

[winter ferry]

All the versions chart you say?

[pearl vale]

Yep, with the circles and lines

[winter ferry]

Well yeah, that happens when you ended up contradicting your universe's internal logic

Like "Rey suddenly healing Kylo with the force" stuff

[pearl vale]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-mita-disappointed-anime-staring-gif-14989485193061431965

I don't care about the plotholes I still like Miside

[winter ferry]

Ah yes, that's for sure, nobody can take that away... This was but a "suspension of disbelief" moment for for the game's climax

[candid perch]

What I assume happens is after the player visits the core the ring was able to setup a shortcut back to it and thats why the player finds it attached to 1.9 instead. If the player was curious enough like he was with wardrobe then yes he could have checked but it never crossed their mind

[winter ferry]

Ok... that might save the plot a bit. Although doesn't justify why isn't a game mechanic to begin with it...

But meh, MiSide > Omori

[sinful owl]

Now that’s just uncalled for

[winter ferry]

lol

[woven cedar]

I wonder if we will get a good ending for the game at some point?

[winter ferry]

Possible on Peaceful Mode we manage to redeem Crazy Mita...

I want to believe

[kind sedge]

Kill

[gusty shard]

ay... violent is never the answer

[kind sedge]

But it is the faster and more effective

[scenic robin]

https://tenor.com/view/higurashi-mion-sonozaki-huh-when-they-cry-gou-gif-27401522

Eepy cat thats not a good plan aaah

[kind sedge]

Remember what happened last time when someone spared hitler

[scenic robin]

Wawa nooo

https://tenor.com/view/shikimori-shikimoris-not-just-cute-anime-anime-girl-crying-gif-26126263

[winter ferry]

Historically accurate tho

[kind sedge]

Sorryyy

[winter ferry]

Which rule was that?

[kind sedge]

I mean who would have thought

[winter ferry]

Eh, what can I say... the soldier felt benevolent that day

[kind sedge]

Can’t even blame him it was kindness in war

[scenic robin]

Just dont continue in an entire argoment about this please

[kind sedge]

Understand

[winter ferry]

Alright

Just to have it into account, is this meddling with the No politics rule?

Or just that its like a H-word?

[scenic robin]

About politics

[vestal depot]

Utterly ridiculous question, are you female?

Not being rude, I can just tell when a person is a guy but I’m not sure if I’m right or wrong

[winter ferry]

[kind sedge]

[scenic robin]

how is this connected she’s

https://tenor.com/view/shikimori-shikimoris-not-just-cute-anime-anime-girl-crying-gif-26126263

It's in my profile

[vestal depot]

Is it?

I only see your music?

[kind sedge]

What is your guess

[winter ferry]

Are we gonna gamble around someone's gender?

[kind sedge]

Nah

It’s quite rude

It doesn’t matter to me

[winter ferry]

Neither do I

[vestal depot]

I am only trying to understand humans more seeing as they keep getting more confusing by the day.

I live under a rock cause I don’t much like people and all of what is happening

[winter ferry]

Neither I do lol

If I barely convinced myself to use Discord...

[vestal depot]

I only got discord for my group of friends Ive had for years. Kinda found myself here and have been trying to reconnect with the outside world. Slowly of course

Not looking for more people to be big friends with

Just want to try talking to more people.

[winter ferry]

Damn, sounds hard to hear that

[vestal depot]

It’s only been two years since I graduated, I’m sure things have changed but not like too much ya know

[winter ferry]

Oooooooh, that explains a lot

Yep, I think that's the same path I'm going down

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-25423496

[vestal depot]

Did you also work full time while in your senior year getting 2 or 3 hours of sleep?

[winter ferry]

In any sense no. My school schedule doesn't allow me to have a part time job to begin with

lol

[vestal depot]

Ahh, I should mention high school senior year. My bad

[winter ferry]

No, I understood it that way

In fact, the only time I've ever worked was when I served as a secretary-esque in some offices of my uncle's company

During Summer

[vestal depot]

Doesn’t sound too bad, you enjoy it?

[winter ferry]

Every. Single. Second

I'm quite literally made for those jobs that society says "nuh uh, too of a failure"

[vestal depot]

Something you should look into maybe, I’m still debating on what I can even do

[winter ferry]

Having a look at your hobbies is quite a good way to begin with

[vestal depot]

Would you believe me if I told you my only decent Bobbie is playing games. I’ve been playing since I was 1 years old (not kidding) and I’ve grown tired of playing games. I force myself to play at this point so I don’t go insane.

[winter ferry]

Huh, that's intriguing

They often say that someone who's good at videogames may be also good to create these

[vestal depot]

Funny, been wanting to make a game since forever. It’s on my bucket list so I hope I can make it someday

[winter ferry]

You will... you wil...

[vestal depot]

Your name will be in the credits, that I know

[wind linden]

just try to do that then

it doesn't have to be something big

[kind sedge]

Every successes are result from failures so don’t afraid to try, it may take countless hours but hard work pays well
You will make it i trust you

[pearl vale]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-mita-disappointed-anime-staring-gif-14989485193061431965

LORE

[autumn ridge]

lorE

[bronze pawn]

lore

[topaz crag]

@west nexus captain!

[rapid wraith]

hehe lore

[west nexus]

VICE CAPTAIN

[uncut hazel]

Here lore

[uncut hazel]

Honey

You look very Christmassy today

[west nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-honey-cute-gif-6665369584005226050

[west nexus]

Haiii honey !~
I do love Christmas

[uncut hazel]

I don't love Christmas, but I have to adapt

[west nexus]

The grinch ?

[uncut hazel]

[west nexus]

How come you don’t love it ?

[uncut hazel]

I don't hate it either

[uncut hazel]

I have to work

[west nexus]

Oh that’s bites

The whole day ?

[uncut hazel]

At least not all day

But it's not fun

[west nexus]

I imagine it wouldn’t be. I’m sorry

I hope you still have a good Christmas regardless

[uncut hazel]

A good Christmas Day would be sleeping all day

[west nexus]

But a great day would be spending it with me

[uncut hazel]

You're right, I hope that day comes

[grave schooner]

[regal flint]

Hi

I'm new to the server

[boreal sundial]

Lore

[sly gorge]

Lore!!!

[earnest pendant]

Oh hello!! I’m new to this discord and I just saw a gameplay but it was long ago, I was wondering if the pacific gameplay is now available or still in progress

[neon surge]

No clue

[sly gorge]

Unfortunately, Peaceful Mode isnt out yet

[earnest pendant]

Owww

[sly gorge]

We hope for an update very soon!

So that we can enjoy quality time with the mita

[neon surge]

True, more Crazy Mita time is a good time in my book

[winter ferry]

20 hours until December 10 on Russia...

[rapid wraith]

Loree

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-gif-25588769

[west nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/enage-kiss-anime-hug-kisara-gif-26118528

[scenic robin]

https://tenor.com/view/zenlesszonezero-astra-yao-blink-blink-cute-astra-yao-zzz-gif-15438186257410510749

[winter ferry]

Seriously tho. What's the flooder in terms of lore

I mean, if its a role that means something...

[proven creek]

does he know?

[candid perch]

She looks a bit like Yor

[kind sedge]

Nothing related tho just a role in here

[bronze pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316260561306255360/1446580793131405393/nonsense.gif

[young ocean]

Marco

[sly gorge]

Polo

[bronze pawn]

[young ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-gdmi-gato-verguero-coffee-gif-5165300453880501749

[civic hill]

this wait is taking so long i can feel each individual braincell im losing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257854419882475651/1447742300083060926/ding_ding.gif

[grave schooner]

[winter ferry]

Ok... it's now 10th in Russian

And I don't see anything... Maybe later the day

https://tenor.com/view/tom-tom-and-jerry-sad-depressed-hopeless-gif-26837440

[civic hill]

announcements arent real anymore

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-w-pepe-gif-23978425

[kind sedge]

@bronze pawn

@west nexus

[winter ferry]

ping mods is a bold move

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-1955501164687414218

[kind sedge]

This place is under their moderation so we are allow to ping them tho

[winter ferry]

yeah...

but why? why would you do that?

[kind sedge]

These bots are getting out of hand

[kind sedge]

Well why not

[bronze pawn]

[autumn ridge]

[winter ferry]

Lol, first time seeing a translator role in this server

[bronze pawn]

back when MiSide only had english, russian and japanese as language options

[winter ferry]

Yeah...

🧓

[kind sedge]

Russian and Japanese dub

[bronze pawn]

I remember having both playthrough of 2 dubs

[autumn ridge]

Yepp i worked on the English translation + dub last year

[kind sedge]

Did they credit you?

[autumn ridge]

yeah in the dub credits

you can load the game up if you wanna check

[kind sedge]

Let’s go 🔥

[winter ferry]

Wow, thanks for your service sir 🫡

[autumn ridge]

you're welcome. i hope you liked the eng dub and translation 🙏

[candid perch]

I would be funny if you left milas PC only to find out 2d mita turned 3d

[lone pier]

Йоу

[candid perch]

Gottem!

[acoustic remnant]

look above

[winter ferry]

Seriously thought... is there an exact number for the Mita population in MiSide?

Because, it is said that each time someone downloads the game, a Mita is created

[quartz sable]

This might answer

[smoky wigeon]

The world is endless. It means that the capacity is infinite. But the current population has exact count. Simply it can accommodate more and more. The number of Mitas may be queried from the core room terminal.

[winter ferry]

Well... That's for MiSide as the Steam game

The MiSide within the game is another thing...

[quartz sable]

[frozen sundial]

Ok, so here’s my theory, that the “friend” who sent you the game in the first place, is actually a cartridge. Crazy Mita was trying to lure in a new player and used one of her cartridges to get you. Thoughts?

[civic hill]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-facepalm-headbang-ugh-mad-gif-17881849

[winter ferry]

Damn... that sounds deep

But why? why would have Mita notice him?

[civic hill]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-friend-cat-image-friend-gif-16014775164715111297

this friend?

[winter ferry]

My bro is fully crazy 💀

[kind sedge]

It was random

Bro was lucky to get chosen by cm

[winter ferry]

Makes sense

[fleet dove]

I think there could potentially be infinite number. There's versions, but every version had people open up accounts on them, so there's probably multiple versions

[fleet dove]

Maybe

[fleet dove]

I love her too and yes

[random tulip]

I highly highly doubt that was ever seriously considered.

[winter ferry]

Just imagine it.. the tamagotchi-like game of MiSide has the same downloads as a hit-game of its type, like, I don't know. Pou with 1 billion of downloads?

Just think for a moment... they could be at least over a billion of them...

That explains why Mila went nuts

[bronze pawn]

lore

[vestal depot]

It's Lore?

[kind sedge]

Loring

[acoustic remnant]

It's loreing time

[acoustic remnant]

Not bad

[autumn ridge]

im lorin it

[glossy hollow]

In my crack theory, M.K. stands for Mita Killer and they were looking for new partners to kill Mitas

[tired phoenix]

Nice to meet you, my name is Miside

[acoustic remnant]

Its DEELPREG time

[acoustic remnant]

Wow haven't seen u in a while

[tired phoenix]

part time job and college really keep me a bit of busy

[sly gorge]

This game is only a year old??

Oh it doesnt include the hype before release

[acoustic remnant]

Ah it's alright don't worry good to see u

[random tulip]

Yup. 1 year anniversary yesterday I'm pretty sure.

[neat vault]

lore discuss hmmmmmmmmmmm

[cerulean notch]

Uhhh idk

Player somehow got stuck in da game

[topaz crag]

@west nexus hi captain!!

[boreal sundial]

Can u even have outside contact when ur in the game

[west nexus]

VICE CAPTAIN

haiiiiii

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mashu-anime-fate-grand-order-gif-16663064

[vestal tiger]

will miside get updated

[candid perch]

first half of 2026

[tired phoenix]

in 2010

[devout veldt]

can somebody explain me how the puzzle in the core room works? i feel stupid for not figuring it out. i dont want the answer tho, i just want to understand

[winter ferry]

Which one? the minigame or the password?

[devout veldt]

password. i dont understand the signs on tha wall, i have no clue

[winter ferry]

Ah ok. You see, near a desk there's the password written on a piece of paper

You should find it near the computer zone

[devout veldt]

lol fr? i was thinking i need thoose runes on the wall

ill look into it, thanks for the help

[winter ferry]

Np

[granite sail]

Does anyone know if the christmas update is coming back to miside this month?

[dusty viper]

it should, cant tell you when besides close to xmas where it triggers since its date based on that trigger

[kind sedge]

It’s automatic?

[dusty viper]

yup!

[kind sedge]

Woa that’s cool 🔥

[kind sedge]

I thought they had to enable it mannually

[dusty viper]

i think its mentioned in the FAQ its automatic like the halloween one

just a toggle really

[topaz crag]

Beda

[dusty viper]

[topaz crag]

so quick question..space eresh, louhi or olga

[dusty viper]

uhh well gameplay its louhi or olga right? idk how strong olga is really but i know space eresh kind stinker cuz of the bond system

[topaz crag]

well olga is in every 90++ so far. i think same is true for seresh and louhi too...personally i think olga is the best one.
can have a 100% self and a 30% party wide battery. compared to louhi and eresh which gives a fixed 20% aoe one.

pretty tough to decide actually.

issue tho @dusty viper is that olga is gonna get super bond saturated on release.
most ppl with a hyper will hit b15 due to raid.

[dusty viper]

well bond life for the farmers

[topaz crag]

the raids have such a ridiculous bond gain that almost all my extra 1 and 2 servants are b13-15 on jp.

💀

[dusty viper]

=

[topaz crag]

anyways how is everyone in the basement?

[dusty viper]

as fgo as it was before, jc added a qp bot so people gamble it for fun but nothing really new about the server

[topaz crag]

i think i got purged by jc actually lmao

which is pretty funny

[autumn ridge]

this year, I will NOT spend my entire christmas break solving miside args 🔥

WAIT

there's only one more week of work until the break!

[kind sedge]

Beda

[meager cedar]

Beda

[autumn ridge]

Beda

[topaz crag]

Beda

[tired phoenix]

Beda?

[neon coral]

Beda

[vale rock]

Beda

[void aurora]

Beda

[pearl vale]

Beda

[vocal mica]

Beda

[vestal depot]

Beda

[steady fable]

Beda

[autumn ridge]

🅱️eda

[winter ferry]

And I thought the HL subreddit went nuts...

[autumn ridge]

This is what no peaceful mode does to a mf

[winter ferry]

mf server*

[vestal depot]

Veda

[kind sedge]

Beda

[meager cedar]

Bebra

[topaz crag]

Beda

[simple delta]

Beda

[vivid pawn]

bedq

[vale rock]

Beda

[pearl vale]

Beda

[mortal dew]

Beda

[left badger]

Beda

[hasty frost]

Beda

[rapid wraith]

Beda

[tribal drift]

Beda

[vestal depot]

Beda 💝

[autumn ridge]

🅱️eda

How does @dusty viper feel about all this

[void aurora]

Beda

[kind sedge]

He feels beda

[weary plaza]

Yabeda

[winter ferry]

Веда

[vestal depot]

Beda! :D

[topaz crag]

Beda

[young ocean]

Beda

[slim cave]

Beda

[slim cave]

Beda

[candid perch]

Why is everyone saying Beda?

[tired phoenix]

Deba

[sly gorge]

Beda

[trim violet]

Beda

[lyric ermine]

Beda

[left badger]

Beda

[slow pilot]

Darude - Sandstorm
I guess

[kind sedge]

Beda

[topaz crag]

Beda

[vale rock]

Beda

[tired phoenix]

Beda

[autumn ridge]

Deda

[autumn ridge]

we love @dusty viper

[vale rock]

Веда

[young ocean]

Beda

[thin bay]

Beda

[slim cave]

Beda

[odd sphinx]

Beda

[pearl vale]

Beba

Praying for you o great Beba

[serene token]

(found in Sleepy Mita's house)
Do we know who wrote this? By looking at the writting, it doesn't seem to be Sleepy Mita

[pearl vale]

I think there was a cartridge that talks about a player creating books for Mita

The text in that specific book is not important thought, just an easter egg

[autumn ridge]

Beda o Beda

[proven creek]

biga is beda

[random tulip]

Depolite - blizzard

[kind sedge]

Beda

[random tulip]

The miside app devs and yes no one will read it because mita is a legal citizen of snoozy land

[topaz crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096550112156725289/1435647426043052042/1105_1.gif

[wind linden]

Literally every house has this book

only Mila has unique books in her house

[serene token]

Oh right

[serene token]

It'd make a lot of sense

[serene token]

Always worth some attention anyway 🤷

[wind linden]

This text is just basically Maken cat being funny and "Self aware"

[serene token]

Player 8 if I recall correctly

[wind linden]

There are also another one like this in the player room but it's written in morse code instead

[serene token]

I'll check it out then, thanks

[wind linden]

also it says how it was written in his native language (Russian) and then translated with an online translator (Google/Yandex translator)

I'm still kinda confused about how good of an english speaker MC is

like he isn't that bad at it why would he need to use a translator

[serene token]

He seems fluent

[serene token]

Wait so the mc lives in Russia?

[wind linden]

Maken cat

main developer of MiSide

[serene token]

I know he does

Oh right

Not mc as main character

[wind linden]

Monster. the drink.

[serene token]

I'm baffled now 😭

[bronze pawn]

lore

[kind sedge]

Beda

[autumn ridge]

Blore

[meager cedar]

Belore

[pearl vale]

Beda lore

[left badger]

Beda theory lore

[grave schooner]

[severe nymph]

Lorax

[meager cedar]

Relax

[wild echo]

Lorem ipsum

[autumn ridge]

lore.....

[young ocean]

Lore

[vestal depot]

Lore

[left badger]

Lore

[vale rock]

L O R E

[pearl vale]

What if beba is chibi Mita

Beba lore

[vestal depot]

Beda lore :D

[flint pulsar]

can someone explain if there's lore behind the hidden loop ost? or is it just an easter egg?

[karmic swallow]

[pearl vale]

??

[flint pulsar]

if you stare out the window in the loop a special ost will play

[pearl vale]

I recall getting a special ost too after standing still for too long. I didnt realize it was for staring out the window

[flint pulsar]

i dont know the actual trigger, i just noticed it

its a very nice ost

[pearl vale]

Ohh

[pure ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/youngest-person-dog-with-hat-innocent-electrahyuka-gif-5553525425739772768

[pearl vale]

Cute

[visual hawk]

is the version of the game we play for the first time on our phone Crazy Mita s version or Kind Mita s version?

[dusty viper]

kind mita's

crazy mita doesnt have a version so she stole kind mitas house n all that

[random tulip]

This dogs brain runs on clean sustainable wind energy

That's why he's so smart

[visual hawk]

so Player and Kind Mita were meant for each other , nice

how about their skins , how does it work ? each version has its own mita with different hair style ? for ex ver 2.0 has only short hair mita ? and if its so , can u or they change their appearance at will ?

[dusty viper]

well no because Kind Mita had a player already, crazy mita hijacked her entire version her home and somehow was able to put it up for new players again i believe thats how she did it

in terms of their appearnce i have no idea if the player has the power to do that or its random on what mita look you get

[topaz crag]

Beda

[karmic swallow]

🛒

[random tulip]

I always thought its possible for one mita to be changed to look 1 to 1 to any other.

[kind sedge]

You have to look at the window in order to trigger it

[kind sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-kid-happy-dog-lollipop-gif-7978029953394407722

[kind sedge]

Beda

[dusty viper]

[dusty viper]

[kind sedge]

Beda

[topaz crag]

[kind sedge]

Hope you are doing great beda

[dusty viper]

iam i am sorry for the late reply ive been gaming all day on my free time and havent been looking here

hope youre doing good as well wawa

[kind sedge]

I’m glad to see you’re having so much fun

[kind sedge]

Wouldn’t say good but tysm

[candid perch]

Its sad that crazy mita replaced all of the kind mita pictures

[autumn ridge]

BEDA!!!!!!! <3

[cunning anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xISYPkxBT8&t=228s

[cunning anchor]

what do u guys think abt this?

[smoky wigeon]

Partially correct... the reasons are based on partial point of view

The path was messed up. The reasons shown against Kind Mita have counter reasons to support her.

People are mostly denying the trust of Kind Mita despite her loyalty being officially confirmed by the developers.

The game may have some evidences but those are not strong to confirm this.

[rain valley]

Probably. I mean, that is the whole game. They know a lot before you do and crazy mita just loops your cartridge until he decides to stay with her.

[cunning anchor]

thats what she does? wait so does crazy mita loops every other cartridges to make them chose to stay with her? or only the mc

[smoky wigeon]

So, the loyalty of them is a mystery. We don't see them betraying us. Only Crazy Mita is shown as the most evil character.

[wind linden]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[rain valley]

Yep. The developers will need a fresh start, if they want to expand the story of this game because clearly the story ends with staying with Crazy Mita. In addition to this, there will be a peaceful mode that you will literally just stay and play with Crazy Mita for the rest of the game, with no horror aspect obviously.

[cunning anchor]

i dont think she loops every other cartridge tho cuz there were other players who wanted to stay with her but still ended up getting cartridged

[rain valley]

Remember, she's the one that chooses her player. Lucky for us, we are the player that she's favorite to play.

[cunning anchor]

so when she gets bored from us too she moves on right

with another player, thats why there are lot of cartridges

[rain valley]

Precisely, that's her goal from the start.

Just try to remember the ending of the game, all the information is there and will make sense of what is her goal from the start when she puts him onto the cartridge.

[smoky wigeon]

Remember this is a short story, not a novel with theory of everything. A short story usually leaves a feeling of unfulfillment at the end. The context seems unfamiliar, changing rapidly like a dream. Just like a poetry, you need to understand the background meaning. The representation of the objects is temporary to start thinking wide and set the mood.

[candid perch]

Good point

[smoky wigeon]

Though the MiSide world is fantasy-fic, It depicts the behavior of our real world. The role-playing is kind of shadow thought of our experience --- a dream.

[rain valley]

Correct, that is why I said earlier that the developers will need either a fresh start or a prequel to the story. Because, clearly it shows the ending of the current story.

Well, I am also fond of the fans game theory. It makes the game story more exciting than usual.

[smoky wigeon]

There are some great short stories which are often like 2-3 pages. Those don't make many reasons on the situation. But you can sense the hidden or unspoken message. Those can change your emotion quickly. Those still get less captured by the common folks.

[hollow orbit]

wow here is lore chat

[smoky wigeon]

I am certain that less people know the significance of MiSide. They just stick to the specific events and small facts. It's a basic need. But analysing everything from that level will make them feel lost. It's important to move upwards and conquer the summary of the logics while imputing the missing gaps or unknown mysteries.

[cunning anchor]

bro idk why but mc acts like such a p-sy bro 😭 like u can litteraly build urself an army of mitas and kill the crazy one but why doesnt he even try that

[topaz crag]

@dusty viper new simon too hard

💀

[cunning anchor]

i would love to see that happenin

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/railgun-anime-chibi-gif-10341387

Cloning time

[boreal sundial]

How about a sick ass buff montage?

https://tenor.com/view/doing-jumping-jacks-charlie-smiling-friends-warming-up-exercising-gif-11815257063101623066

[cunning anchor]

hell yeah like what will the crazy one gon do 😭

[topaz crag]

She can u know...turn into a giant mita

[cunning anchor]

or just mc alone had few chances to attack her in a really good position i would defo try that

[topaz crag]

☻

[cunning anchor]

the others can too i assume cant they?

[topaz crag]

Dont think so

[smoky wigeon]

They try to think partially. One goes against Crazy Mita and another one supports her. I believe there is a single source of truth that can summarize the entire purpose of her being dual. There are many cases where duality appears.

[cunning anchor]

maybe he could convince them

[cunning anchor]

u know they didnt like that situation either the other mitas

and i bet there were other mitas like mila who can use sword

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/erwin-speech-erwin-rage-erwin-push-gif-1951815179806984796

[cunning anchor]

das what im talkin abt 🐺

[rain valley]

I think Kind Mita can do that part. He can just probably help with her plan, just like always.

[topaz crag]

It was definitely possible to kill cm but the mc picked the wrong option

[cunning anchor]

yeah mc is just coward and doesnt hav enough balls

like bro look at this

[topaz crag]

Like there is an entire section of mc talking with kind mita abt killing cm

[cunning anchor]

what can crazy mita do in this position if mc just run and hit her to bars 😭 like this:

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-beating-up-baldur-kratos-god-of-war-2018-beating-up-gif-1620990614435266735

[topaz crag]

Which kinda implies they could

Just that they didnt

[cunning anchor]

i would definitly try that if a crazy women with a knife were following me 😭 💀

[topaz crag]

I think if we are being fair tho...cm would not only notice the mc but also be able to overpower him and basically kill him here...

He cant kill her alone.

[cunning anchor]

i sent that gif to show what could happen if mc had balls

[cunning anchor]

nah i dont think she would notice tho

mc litteraly runs behind her to the door

if mc hits her head hard enough she would get flabbergasted

[smoky wigeon]

Developers have stated that there are no simple X = Y or X = - Y relationship. Relation is fuzzy and we have to move on with this. We need to try to converge the raw events and facts, and diverge the meaning and truth.

[topaz crag]

??

[rain valley]

Of course, he is in her game after all.

[topaz crag]

[topaz crag]

Yea...the only possible way is prolly with assistance of other mitas...

And even then we dont really know.

[cunning anchor]

i think if the mc had enough guts to atleast attack her she would let him live, i remember there was a scene where cm were complaining how players are cowards and just hides in a corner when they see true mita

[cunning anchor]

and plus mc would have a chance to k her and get out

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf2-toy-chica-toy-freddy-toy-bonnie-withered-animatronic-gif-18984106

[topaz crag]

I am gonna state it again...i dont think he can.

Cuz cm isnt that weak at all.

[cunning anchor]

if i were the mc...

[cunning anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[topaz crag]

U would die

[cunning anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-boxing-gif-9203472701001584602

[smoky wigeon]

This statement shadows a real phenomenon. It's that people don't want to accept the terrible truth. They just pray to God or act being innocent in adversity, just to escape the difficulty.

[topaz crag]

Just like the last guy who said nah id win

And got kitkat

[cunning anchor]

wah

[topaz crag]

[rain valley]

Agreed, the game literally stated that or he stated that Crazy Mita has a superhuman strength that even other Mita's cannot even fight her alone.

[cunning anchor]

im not saying mc could throw fists with her, but if he does like i say maybe he can stun her and stab her

[cunning anchor]

like in here

[topaz crag]

Something to do with her being a defect if i remember.
She still had an endoskeleton.
The other mitas are basically humans after a certain point in their versions.

The only thing which i never got tho is why doesnt light stop cm

[cunning anchor]

arent they still endoskeletons?

[topaz crag]

No

When ||mila dies u can see blood||

Same with kind mita

[cunning anchor]

maybe they are endoskeletons with blood

mita combo?

ohh

[topaz crag]

https://tenor.com/view/itadori-yuji-kugisaki-nobara-jujutsu-kaisen-cursed-energy-black-flash-gif-25703589

[cunning anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-gif-11426619910221365543

[topaz crag]

Or we could pick up a giant meta pipe...and do this...

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-f-hinako-silent-hill-f-pipe-hinako-pipe-gif-3492052072502115149

[rain valley]

Could be. But as of now, the single source of truth we have is that she is defective and corrupted by her own volitions.

[cunning anchor]

unless mita pulls this move with the pipe

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-throw-throwing-cat-gif-4274431377291540177

[smoky wigeon]

"Gods and demons used to live in same omniverse, then used to live on Earth, then used to live in same family, now are living in same body."
Human psychology is so unpredictable that it can change how it's. Even an apparent innocent one may become evil someday. We blame that they are the problems. We hope to change them by punishing. The problem is with the brain after all. We are playing with the reinforcement.

Duality is the truth here. She is both God and demon.

[smoky wigeon]

I want to convey that others want to believe either of those as those seem contradictory. In reality, it's duality in nature. The game teaches us to accept both. Everyone has own important role, even good or bad. One is not truly perfect. Still we need to move on with that.

[dusty viper]

[pearl vale]

Beba

[glossy hollow]

Player if he didn't hold back

Seriously why he didn't punch Crazy Mita for what she did?

[candid perch]

The player would have hurt his hand because the dummy underneath exists

[kind sedge]

So basically nornal mitas have a body like a human but the broken ones still have the endoskeloton so that would explain why crazy mita is much stronger compare to other mitas

I sense fish

[void aurora]

Indeed

[kind sedge]

[kind sedge]

I eat you

[void aurora]

Before the ending, you can see crazy mita has dummy body

She even have a glowing red eyes which mean she's a broken dummy

[kind sedge]

A stronger and evil dummy

[void aurora]

I wonder what happend to the red eyes dummy that the player meet at mita factory

[boreal sundial]

yeah but pretty sure she's the only strong defective dummy

[kind sedge]

Well i’m not so sure about she’s the only one what makes her stand out from other dummies that she has consciousness this is her actual strength

[boreal sundial]

She's the only one so far

so

[kind sedge]

She is very intelligent as being said by other mitas

[kind sedge]

In my perspective every dummy are are equal in term of strength

[rough inlet]

I had a thought after the end(reaching the end for the first time), Crazy Mita doesn’t have a version, is it because of a defect, or because she is a rejected prototype?
If it’s because of being rejected, could Crazy Mita have originally been intended for Cappie’s Version?
The only real connection is the color of the gun, from this one YouTube theory video about Cappie being Crazy Mita. (It’s been a while since I’ve watched it…)

[kind sedge]

They share the same body

[kind sedge]

Well this is a false theory i think the devs did say something about this

[civic hill]

her having the microphone i think kinda disproves cappie being crazy in disguyse/being another failed model

[rough inlet]

In the game that shows you the process, doesn’t it make you check bone count? That could possibly affect physical attributes, though it would probably be more so about range of mobility.

[kind sedge]

Maybe but maybe not irl more bones doesn’t make you more flexible

[rough inlet]

Makes sense, my current idea is that Crazy was intended to be a Cappie, but was rejected.
I assume the box of clothes also contains things for their inventory.

[civic hill]

could be

[rough inlet]

And also because the bones are probably the Diamond shape animator bones, if I had to guess.

[civic hill]

i'd pay attention to their eye color too

cappies eyes are all black but crazy's are similar to kind's

[rough inlet]

Ah, hadn’t paid too much attention, other than pretty.

[void aurora]

The bone quantity thing?

[rough inlet]

Yeah.

[void aurora]

I just realize even dummies has a version

[kind sedge]

I think more bones = smoother movement

[rough inlet]

On the left side of the workspace, I think I saw some shapes for what seems like animation bones.

[kind sedge]

Since they are trying make mitas to be humanlike

[rough inlet]

My current thought is that the data is discarded or disassociated when they get dumped.

[boreal sundial]

but they are contained somewhere

[kind sedge]

Actually they need to be approved before getting assigned a version

[boreal sundial]

remember the part where crazy mita just drops a fridge

[kind sedge]

Being able to lift a whole fridge is crazy

That shows how strong she is

[rough inlet]

And over a railing at that.

[boreal sundial]

and the view..

https://tenor.com/view/honeycardi-the-weeknd-abel-abel-tesfaye-gif-20662583

[kind sedge]

[rough inlet]

Makes sense.
The process wasn’t explained in great detail, just enough to understand.
So it could be that the scanning just identifies the optimal version and the requirements for that version, right?
Do the different versions have different bone counts? I can’t recall.

[rough inlet]

But if it were to be disconnected from the Core?
Either by non existence or some other method?

[kind sedge]

Yes i think the higher the version the more advanced the body is

[kind sedge]

Just got left alone in a box forever

[void aurora]

Yes, dreffent version have dreffent bone counts

I just check

[kind sedge]

Remember the box where we gain access to AIHASTO server? That might be cm’s box

[kind sedge]

Well they updated the game so they improved the body too

[rough inlet]

Makes total sense, since later versions would have More advanced tech and principles.
Speaking of which, who or what makes new versions?
They don’t seem to have any reason to do so, unless it is still being done so via virtual/digital link to the human/material world.

[kind sedge]

The game developers there are theories that they might actually the one behind the scenes

[rough inlet]

I can’t think of anything other than Channel Manager at the moment, what do you mean by “cm”?

[kind sedge]

Cm is crazy mita

[rough inlet]

As in the studio is also is the studio in the miside world?

[void aurora]

Seem like every dummies have dreffent bone count not just dreffent version

[kind sedge]

Miside world’s devs

[rough inlet]

The one that says program running? Next to the login?

[boreal sundial]

A huge sign

[kind sedge]

Yea i think

[rough inlet]

As in our devs, who are also devs in the game that we humans play, are making the game that the [Player(s)] plays?

[rough inlet]

I just realized I didn’t look at it after activating the device.

[kind sedge]

Nope

[rough inlet]

So not some sort of development inception, got it.

I assume that someone’s already cracked the cryptic message on the wall?

[boreal sundial]

crazy mita would act more angrier

when she tied konoa to a chair

mc

[rough inlet]

Tied to chair?

[boreal sundial]

being candid

that chapter

[kind sedge]

[boreal sundial]

actually he wasn't tied I think

[kind sedge]

I don’t recall that part

[rough inlet]

I thought he was just being pressed down by a knee or heavy hand.

Because we sat in that chair willingly.

To use the phone.

[boreal sundial]

I mean like crazy mita would've refer to the player as one of the devs but she didn't

[void aurora]

He got push down to a chair if I remember correctly

[kind sedge]

Nope he’s not the dev

She never mentioned that

[boreal sundial]

Exactly

[rough inlet]

Not saying that Player is one of the devs, though the activities he does make me think of that (in a way that’s unrelated to our devs being their devs).

But also, wouldn’t anyone who accesses be considered a “Player”?
It would be a status or access level.
Though a hole would be, what about Admins, but the grill only prevents native components, otherwise I think it would only allow admins/operators.

||I lost track of what I’m typing…||

[boreal sundial]

Players can access the core

[kind sedge]

What he did was just a reflection of his actual job

[boreal sundial]

if that's what ur saying

[kind sedge]

I think he’s saying about the 999days scene

[rough inlet]

Yeah, I’m just saying that if there were Admins, it would’ve only let them in.
But Players being able to, is a point I am using to say there isn’t an explicit Admin Access level.

[boreal sundial]

Reading comprehension curse strikes me again

[rough inlet]

And the main divide is User and Native Code.
Would be a way to put it.

[kind sedge]

Doesn’t really need tho cuz core mita act like a guard tho

When we saw her she looked like she was waiting for someone

[boreal sundial]

Or she's just very bored sitting there

[rough inlet]

Player was able to waltz around.
And was only tossed out after finishing the restart.
Or could be because I shoved my face into her personal space.

[kind sedge]

Maybe because we messed with the system and reseted a normal mita since crazy mita doesn’t have a version nor index

[rough inlet]

Reasonable.

[void aurora]

There is a thing called confirm login in the core PC, probably for admin who know the code
But for some reason they left login code on the table

I hate auto correct

[rough inlet]

I wonder why they don’t have tracking version/indexes.
Null + Version or something.
They seem like Orphaned Programs.
Also, that Orb, Holy Strange Orb.
What is it?

[rough inlet]

The failings of human security.
IT or something.
Felt secure in the space, so just left it on a “sticky note” (the table).

[kind sedge]

Everything was just an experiment

It was just a test

We are the test subjects

[rough inlet]

At the end of one of the Weeping Angel things. The water area.

[boreal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/we-aint-the-exception-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-todo-aoi-gif-8102633379448954822

[void aurora]

Dummies are like file

When they got reject they're move to water area "bin"

And the holy orb is probably shift + del

[rough inlet]

Speaking of files, do you think Miside Servers-
is Miside called Miside in Miside?
-run Windows or Linux?

[boreal sundial]

I think I had a stroke while reading that

[rough inlet]

Also, I was wondering, do they freeze in the light because they are destroyed, or because it’s light?

[void aurora]

I have no idea

[boreal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/vargillllll-vargil-vergilpost-vergilposting-gif-7070822735907676911

[rough inlet]

If it’s linux, Gandalf impression or something, “By The Great Power Invested in me, I summon the great SUDO!!!”

[void aurora]

I wonder, the reflection of crazy mita in water area refers to crazy mita once been there or she's watching us suffer or both

[rough inlet]

reflection???
On the water surface or in the void before stepping back?

[void aurora]

On water surface

[boreal sundial]

It's like a predator stalking it's pray type shi

[void aurora]

Agree

[rough inlet]

I, uh, did not see that.
Am I blind?
I got through that area only because of the staring down trick.

I also used FOV of 80.

[void aurora]

This

The room before holy orb thing

[thin snow]

They only stop while being observed; they're not stopped because of the light, but rather because they're in a circle and all observing each other.

Which, come to think of it, the AI doesn't take into account with the behavior of the original dummies since they can single-file follow you (which means the one in back is observing the one in front of it)

[rough inlet]

I’m fairly certain I saw sparks when I looked back at them, though it’s not unreasonable.

So I thought it was because of the special nature of the Orb.
With its. Symbols Sounds and Special Placement.

[thin snow]

It's a direct reference to the scene where the Tardis vanishes from in front of the Weeping Angels, and they're all stuck looking at one another, which means as long as they can see each other they're stuck

[rough inlet]

Blocking the Access to the Interspace(?)

[thin snow]

Nah, I don't think it's that deep

[rough inlet]

I’ve seen that, though the difference is, the Prototypes aren’t covering their eyes.

The Weeping Angels cover their eyes to prevent them from observing each other.
Though Darkness will or should also produce similar effect.

[thin snow]

Right, but when the tardis vanishes, they don't have time to react

they cover their eyes so they won't get stuck - but in this case they DID get stuck

[rough inlet]

They were in a cooperative action and it was likely when the exterior started fading that the observation effect started. Freezing them before the TARDIS was gone.

[thin snow]

I couldn't tell you about any of that, this is literally the only piece of Dr. Who anything that I know 😂

[rough inlet]

I’ve seen all is the New Doctor Who up to Peter Capaldi(?) The Doctor who could be properly cross because he was Scottish I believe.
And a toe dip into the lady afterwards time, about 2 episodes.
And most of the specials in between.

[thin snow]

Apart from that one concept it's just never really gripped me as a series

[rough inlet]

The script in the Core Room, does it have any meaning?
The one on the left wall.

[rough inlet]

Hieroglyphs or something.

[rough inlet]

Neat.

[crisp pond]

[tame quest]

Yeah if you go towards an area that looks a little dark, you can see her reflection when you look down

[tame quest]

Its definitely the latter since she knows where you are at all times and just wants to see you in despair

[meager cedar]

[vale rock]

[candid perch]

https://tenor.com/view/kind-mita-pipe-yapping-miside-not-mine-gif-15973009059877961427

Lore

[bronze pawn]

lore

[meager cedar]

lore

[rough inlet]

Are all Mitas made in one building?
Who creates our maintains the buildings we see?
And why does it look like the place is decaying?

[smoky wigeon]

• May be in different buildings.
• Perhaps some Mita like Short-haired Mita or system.
• It may not be maintained with care and infested with glitches.

[uncut hazel]

[rough inlet]

Would that mean there is a whole lot more of the errored prototypes somewhere?
And I suppose they aren’t all over the interspace because to get out of the water pit, you need to pass a brightly lit area in a single file with open space on all sides.
Reasonable, I would guess that perhaps at some point there were human avatars who ran the place, but now Mita volunteers and automated systems/scripts operate the majority of it now.

[rough inlet]

Not sure if this belongs here, but:
When a Prototype is accepted, their endoskeleton fuses and becomes organic, right?
When a Prototype is rejected, is it impossible to get them back to the process and passed?
I could imagine a fan fiction or alternate universe where a player manages to tie Crazy Mita to a Version and Index.
Would it even change anything about Crazy Mita? Other than getting a version and index that is.

[candid perch]

First Question: Correct. Second Question: I don't know to be honest. Nobody has really asked that question before. The fan fiction idea: That would be an cool concept for a fan fiction. Originally I thought hey that would be a great idea in calming crazy mita down but I don't think giving her a version and house would fix her. If anything it would most likely make the situation worse since she wants to be seen as the best mita and she could see being given an index and house as an insult

[autumn ridge]

[kind sedge]

The point of peaceful mode might be just to get along with crazy mita and overtime we some how manage to give her a version and index so that we can reset her

Tbh the only way to fix her is to reset her crazy mita isn’t really evil she’s just a broken one, a mita that had been left in the dark, rejected because she’s a bit different from others. Villains weren’t borned they were made so as crazy mita from all everything she had gone through has made her evil. If she was treated equally, she wouldn’t even be evil

Reseting her can make her forget everything and from there we can change her

[rough inlet]

Chances are, the reset brings the state to the point that the Mita received their house.
Because, otherwise, in a well crafted system, if you were able to reset a Mita a blank slate for any Mita that has a version and house, it wouldn’t make sense to not have a way to track and monitor/interfere in all the rejected ones, even if it’s only in a small way.

[rough inlet]

I suppose that the (closest/next best) thing that one could do, given how the system appears to run, is to create a situation similar to Sleepy Mita.
A Unique Version with only 1 Index.

[civic hill]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-tadc-im-the-one-who-tells-lies-gif-266690249732596262

[rough inlet]

And, there aren’t any Mitas that are above 1.x, right?

[rough inlet]

Hm, Mita has access to the Internet, right?
So that means Mita should have access to Steam, yes?

I was going to go for a, Player and Mita plays steam games and thus settles down.
But then I had the thought: Mita playing Miside and then:
A: Encountering Crazy Mita an it be very confusing (Assuming that Player Model is based on the player's self)
B: Encountering herself while playing Miside

Also, Infinite World/Many Worlds Theorem would mean there is a Steam Punk Mita somewhere, yes?

Also, who is the friend that sends the message?
Just someone of no consequence? Also a Player whom is now trapped away?
When a Player is turned off and fall to their knees, do they, turn into sparkles and disappear? or is the player model just, there, keeled over?

[kind sedge]

There are tho

[kind sedge]

Wait

What was the latest version again?

[rough inlet]

I mainly remember versions 1.x.

1.9?

Kind Mita's Version, right?

[civic hill]

https://tenor.com/view/feed-the-void-black-cat-snack-hungry-cat-hungry-gif-306965068353833327

[kind sedge]

Well we couldn’t be so sure if that world had steam

They person who sent him the game might just be his friend

[rough inlet]

A world without Steam? (Or the Non Copyrighted Water)
Such Travesty! A torutured Existence that would be!

[kind sedge]

We couldn’t be sure if he’s a cartridge since the encounter between the mc and crazy mita was purely random

Also the ability to access the internet may works like how AI in our world collects information

[rough inlet]

Large Language Models or Jarvis/Ultron?

[kind sedge]

Maybe

[rough inlet]

LLMs, as I last understood it, according to a video about the point at which we stopped understanding them.
Is like making soup from Information and eating it with bread.

And regurgitating what it thinks that is supposed to make sense according to a prompt.

[kind sedge]

Tho in many science fiction movies we can see a society where human and AI can live together so mitas are just our virtual robotic friends, they live, they act, they behave like human

[rough inlet]

And do we know whether the Mitas exist in Cyberspace as opposed to a different dimension where the rules of reality are different?
Or was once blank before someone connected it with our digital technology and reformatted everything?
It's a stretch, but not strictly impossible based on what little info I do have.

[kind sedge]

More a virtual world it might be similar to SAO virtual world

In miside world we have limit informatio of how advanced the world is

[rough inlet]

Makes sense.
SAO or Underworld?
Or the alternative, a copy of the soul? As it happens at the very end of underworld?

[kind sedge]

The underworld season

[pearl vale]

Wait

If Mitas got internet why would Mita need a player to teach her about electronics

And create books for her

[delicate stump]

limited access prob

[vale rock]

there is one theory which explains everything...

[vale rock]

That digital world of Miside is a virtual space created using an AI cluster. The world is stored on servers. It operates off the AI ​​cluster's power. GEOVORP (corporation) provides the information base about our world. The cluster attempts to recreate the world using machine learning. This reveals unknown technologies and numerous errors in replicating reality. For example, the head of the creepy Mita. Her neck doesn't work properly (in our world, not in the game; AI has problems with fingers and other things... The same applies here). The internet and television in the world of Miside are also fake and created by the AI ​​cluster. This explains Mila's strangeness and distrust of the internet, as it too is filled with artifacts and inaccuracies, and Mila is quite the fan of the real world. Objects on the internet and TV can be duplicated in your hand or inventory with certain skills (permissions). All objects literally exist in the game. Recall the moment where Crazy Mita takes a glass of juice from a juice box. (Don't you see the logical error?)

By AI Cluster, I mean when we use more than one AI in a single project. AI can exchange and create new information based on each other. In real life AI created their own language.

[pearl vale]

Crazy Mita being able of such things, I think its because she got power over Miside, being able to summon everything and do anything

[vale rock]

mb

[pearl vale]

for example, I think she is the one with a chainsaw, we didnt see any other Mita with a chainsaw

[wind linden]

Huh??

This wasn't in the game

[vale rock]

what?

the juice?

[wind linden]

pretty much all of this

where did you take the ai cluster stuff from

[vale rock]

just a theory

[wind linden]

Miside was made by actual developers right

not some AI

[vale rock]

why not?

[wind linden]

(in universe)

[wind linden]

well what points to that?

Crazy talks about how mad she is at the developers

[vale rock]

multiple bugs

[wind linden]

if there are no developers then who is she mad at

[vale rock]

by this she means the administration which controls the AI cluster

[vale rock]

or testers

[wind linden]

this literally makes no sense

if the game is made by an AI cluster then what is the message of the game

Don't let AI clusters make video games??

of course the television and books would not be real in game

of course it's a fake recreation of the real thing

there doesn't have to be an AI cluster to make the story make sense

if anything it makes the story make even less sense then i already does

this is some Scott Cawthonism

[vale rock]

1. The company is conducting an experiment to create a closed-loop digital system through natural selection and self-learning of an AI cluster. It is necessary to determine what problems might arise during this process, while minimizing human intervention.
2. For the sake of progress itself. Or financial investment. (According to the crazy Mita)
3. To satisfy its needs for another being (an ideal doll?)

[wind linden]

??????

Again, where is this stuff even closesly stated about in the game?

and if it is then i guess MakenCat is incredibly bad at telling lore because nobody would figure this out

if this was real then maybe more people would talk about this

[candid perch]

You are making stuff up

[wind linden]

yeah that's what i'm saying

[vale rock]

alright

Does anyone of you know Russian?

if yes

check out this doc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14YkeN9clqvSi9UqS4hekgeQUwyWBokh9/edit

[wind linden]

А это смарк придумал

@mellow sinew

Какой нахер кластер

чё за бред ты там написал

[vale rock]

не знаю по-моему звучит довольно интересно

и без дыр

[mellow sinew]

что тебя не устраивает?

[wind linden]

ВСЁ

[mellow sinew]

ну пиши свой гугл документ)

[wind linden]

Ты берёшь баги игры и кривые объяснения как доказательства

чё нахуй

[vale rock]

ну ок. то есть ии тут не причем и это разрабы такие ошибки не замечают?

или как ты думаешь?

[wind linden]

Как можно включать ТРЯСКУ КНОПКИ В ИНТЕРФЕЙСЕ в лор игры?

Мне лень разбирать остальной документ потому что я уже понимаю что дальше там примерно такой же бред

[wind linden]

Можно просто признать что в мисайде кривая история которая не имеет логического смысла?

А не пытатся достроить её белыми нитками

[vale rock]

мне кажется Макен все продумал 😉

[mellow sinew]

А чем ты занимаешь с увликательным цирком?

[wind linden]

Мне кажется Макен не такой умный как вы думаете

[wind linden]

Я строил теории на основе того что ну типа... БЫЛО в сериале

у Гусворкс обычно как раз умные сценарии

да и продумано это всё было уже с самого начала в отличии от мисайда

Я думаю немного не честно обвинять Мейкена на самом деле, ему пришлось так сделать

ему пришлось впихивать новые главые которые только создавали больше вопросов и ему не дали всё нормально довести

но он всё же сам виноват что вообще решил расширять всё если у него не было идей как это делать

МОЖЕТ ПОТОМУ ЧТО КЛАСТЕРА НЕ СУЩЕСТВУЕТ??

[mellow sinew]

они есть + баги сделаны так что у них особый способ фикса а не как в реальной жизни

[wind linden]

Конечно не свойственно, люди часто делают не логические решения которое какой то кластер ИИ бы не сделал

и это не администрация, это просто всю игру сделали люди и всё

[wind linden]

Может потому что это не реальная жизнь

а я говорю про настоящие баги, оверсайты которые мейкен оставил

кнопки в выборе диалога не должны трястись, это просто кривой интерфейс

никто бы нахер не делал такую историю смарк

ты вообще знаешь что лор ну типа создан всё же чтобы его разгадывали

[mellow sinew]

Она тресеться только там.

[wind linden]

Потому что она только там так сделана

дальше он нашёл как это пофиксить

[mellow sinew]

до этого такой проблемы небыло + я четко помню код макена, там это намеренно сделано.

[wind linden]

Скотт Коутон как бы его не обвиняли всё же изначально делал лор логичным и оставлял заметные подсказки

ровно до того момента как была создана теория сна

я думаю это та точка когда всё начало рушится, когда он начал вносить правки в историю ретроактивно чтобы делать её такой как всем нравится

и конечно если лор постоянно меняется то его и нельзя разгадать

[wind linden]

скинь строчку

Потому что у меня она буквально даже не трясётся

я сделал всё по твоей инструкции

они не трясутся

могу даже видео записать

могу на демке показать

[mellow sinew]

потом

[kind sedge]

Me no understand russian

[ember elm]

Real

[wind linden]

we were talking about how weird Smarkloker's vision of MiSide lore is

[kind sedge]

Ohhhhhh

[wind linden]

he belives pretty much everything inside of the game is made by an "AI Cluster"

[kind sedge]

[kind sedge]

Interesting

[wind linden]

That's actually the version of the story that NSM is going to be based around i guess

i don't want to play it anymore

I actually believed he had a good idea for the lore before reading this document

[kind sedge]

And what you got at the end?

Any useful information?

[wind linden]

i can translate some of the parts of the doc

[wind linden]

what? no

i already know pretty much all of the MiSide lore

[kind sedge]

[wind linden]

at least the mess you can piece together from what MakenCat was able to actually put in the game

really it's not worth it

the more i tried to understand it the less coherent it became

you actually need to make stuff up to make it normal

[kind sedge]

You are an encyclopedia

[wind linden]

OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY FOUND IT

[mellow sinew]

Давай перевод)

[wind linden]

I've been struggling to find this meme for ages

i've seen it somewhere but i couldn't find it again

and now i did :0

Here's some

This literally makes no sense

Creepy Mita's neck is this way because of her being glitched, Like imagine the devs coded it so Mita's have to look at the player, but CM doesn't have any limit to how far she can have her head from the body

so the neck kinda stretches

she isn't actually supposed to be weird and creepy, it's just game not working as intended

saying that this is similar to AI-gen images in the real world just doesn't make sense and brings this cool creepy detail down.. like oooh, it's just the AI Cluster glitching out bud, it's not actually Creepy Mita breaking the rules of the game because of how utterly glitched she is

it's like when the developers of High on life tried justify their use of AI in the game by saying they were just using ai to get the weird otherworldly vibes

instead of admitting how lazy they were to actually make those textures themselves

not everything has to be a Generative AI reference

Especially considering MiSide just kinda uses fictional AI that would never exist in the real world

[rough inlet]

If I were to consider the idea of AI in that sense, I wouldn’t think generative AI, but of “Project Genesis: Sentient AI”. A made up secret project to create sentient AI.
And I would assume it would be naturally occurring as opposed to how AI is utilized in our world.

[wind linden]

This is something Smarkloker would call "Based"

Lazy development practices

[vale rock]

but there are no holes in this theory

tbh

[wind linden]

well maybe

it's just that this isn't real

[vale rock]

yea, it is made up

[wind linden]

it's fun to theories, this is just making up lore

[wind linden]

Да он доказывал мне что его понимание лора игры гениальное

по его мнению это именно то что было задумано а не то что он додумывает

[vale rock]

ну... незнаю

[wind linden]

У него даже в фактах ошибки

[vale rock]

разрабы говорили что это типо Mita's side

[wind linden]

ну да это же очевидно

я по этому сделал AntoSide таким названием

чтобы соответствовать

Anton Side

хотя логичнее было бы AntSide

чтобы убирать 2 буквы от имени

[mellow sinew]

ну это ведь факт?

[wind linden]

какой нахуй это факт

не переводиться оно как ошибка

у тебя тогда ошибочная новая история

в которой всё лучше

я просто представляю что все ожидают нормальный лор от тебя

а ты представляешь им такую фигню ожидая что они будут в этом разбираться

[vale rock]

mistake это ошибка

[wind linden]

ну точнее такой же как в игре

ты же в том же мире делаешь вроде что и Мейкен создавал

это не альтернативная реальность NSM

По какому принципу он не всё может класть в инвентарь??

oh yeah

[rough inlet]

Just as the Theory of relativity and quantum mechanics.
“If there’s are no holes, then it has not been explored enough.” - me

[wind linden]

Okay so he can't put a giant key inside of his inventory

but this isn't proving anything because MC just knew he would use the key right away

there is virtually no reason to put it in the inventory

[mellow sinew]

так он такой как в игре

[wind linden]

why don't we talk about how MC can actually duplicate his console when Cappie takes it away from him??

how would that even work

And he can't do it when Mila takes it

does it mean Mila takes it away harder or something?

because with Cappie you can even see the console on the ground after she throws it away

so it doesn't just magically teleport back into MC's inventory

MC is in creative mode theory

[mellow sinew]

багуються как морковки)

[covert gale]

Maybe MC inventory are the pockets?

[wind linden]

the bat is kinda massive

so that wouldn't make any sense

[covert gale]

That's true.

[wind linden]

you see this isn't actually something you can logically explain

it's a complete plot hole

except if you reach as far as to say that the MC is also an admin

and he is just roleplaying as a normal player

MC villain theory

[rough inlet]

I would attribute this to being pulled through the system.

[covert gale]

or a genderbent mita

[mellow sinew]

меня бита смущает

я от этого и пошел

[wind linden]

"I got confused at the bat"

[rough inlet]

Mila, uh, “power of anime” I guess?

[wind linden]

"That's why i made this concept up"

[covert gale]

I'm still intrigue on Cappie from the hammer game.

[wind linden]

Hahaha funny porn game

MiSide in a way is a meta-commentary on the nature of Adult Games (Gooner Games)

kinda mixing in the idea of what would happen if the girls in your gooner game were actually self aware

that's kinda what i see as the point of the game

not some weird AI clusters

[mellow sinew]

ты еще вспомни тогда прикол. ХМ если это игра про гунеров то это объясняет почему у Маленькой Миты Бита которая оглушает

[wind linden]

Зависит от того кто её кинул

такая же бита потом есть у безумной

я думаю это уже даёт ответ кто её кинул игроку

да и появление после этого чиби криповой миты

[covert gale]

I've got fun on that scene, I didn't expected it hahahaha

[wind linden]

которых так удобно можно сломать битой которую дали игроку

[wind linden]

nobody did lol

this was the whole point of the scene

[covert gale]

Still trying to justify she having that hahahaha

I meant, she trying to justify why she had that xD