miside-lore-discussions

[lone talon]

I forgot about that part of the mitas

[signal sequoia]

Crazy Mita has definetly already gone through this transitionary phase

Exposure to light will do nothing to stop her

[quasi rain]

damn

[gloomy stone]

not perfectly though which is why she gets shy when you look at her for a bit

[signal sequoia]

Yeah it's not enough to stop her chainsawing you though so

It's just a tiny clever allusion to her true nature

[quasi rain]

wait no cause the dummies we get chased by are already exposed to light, the reason why they did stop was because the light was special, like the one before sleepy mita's room

[signal sequoia]

No all the chases are in some form of natural darkness, it seems like specifically the gameworlds 'natural light' stops them

Sure theres those LEDS in the morgue chase, but can you really call that 'natural' light?

& the second Prototype chase has no direct light-sources outside of that one that stops them

[polar idol]

It's not the light that stops them permanently, it's that kind of 'leak' coming out from above they kinda have this dispersing texts like snowfall

[quasi rain]

thats the one im saying, it could give enough time to take down crazy mita

[signal sequoia]

Not to mention there's only 2 prototypes in that room

[polar idol]

possibly a alternate ending part? lure Crazy Mita into those lighting?

[signal sequoia]

Again, definetly been exposed to it

[polar idol]

where??

[quasi rain]

what about gangning up on crazy mita, i mean cappie, mila, kind mita, the player, short haired mita vs crazy mita

[signal sequoia]

C'mon man pay attention

[icy gazelle]

she's actually hidden in the water's reflection in that section of the game

[signal sequoia]

this whole argument

[icy gazelle]

only to soon show up again to throw a fridge at you

[quasi rain]

its a 5v1 how can crazy mita win?

[icy gazelle]

so i dont think light can stun her

[signal sequoia]

& again, in the morgue room, the only part of any Prototype Mita chase with a light-source that doesnt stop them, there are only 2 Prototypes

Not to mention the light specifically follows the player

Presumably not enough to stop them lunging with a bite into your neck

[icy gazelle]

Cappie is back to default settings so idk if she could fight

[signal sequoia]

All the other Mitas' are like, really weak

Mila didnt even put up a fight

[quasi rain]

well she was crying on the floor you know she problably got suprised

[icy gazelle]

they quickly get overpowered by Crazy Mita on their own, i think ganging up on her would just prolong the inevitable

[polar idol]

what I noticed is the thing that stops the dummies is that weird light with texts falling
even emits a dialup sound

[quasi rain]

oh and not to mention ugly mita she is on crazy mita's side so 5v2... yeah we get cooked

[signal sequoia]

Yeah the only way anyone's winning that fight is if Player 1 somehow manages to convince either Core Mita or Original Mita

[icy gazelle]

also the problem is that she can literally see whatever the player's doing through her console

so she could very easily take a look and figure out their plan

[quasi rain]

wait doesnt cappie have an axe and a crowbar?

and a toy gun that suprisingly has actual fricking bullets

[signal sequoia]

giving up on this argument

[signal sequoia]

Well it looks like the laser pistol from Hetoor

[icy gazelle]

like, the one with the cartridge that Player 1's being uploaded to

[signal sequoia]

That's only canon to Playthrough 2

[quasi rain]

wait also mila can pull of finger pushups for reps mila seems to be good source for strength against mita, maybe the odds are not so bleek

[signal sequoia]

No both the Player & Mila said that was the in-game physics engine not working right for a second

[icy gazelle]

what about safe ending

[quasi rain]

oh..... dammit

[signal sequoia]

also only canon to playthrough 2

[signal sequoia]

Well, technically, not canon?

[icy gazelle]

but it's right there, alongside the counter showing the progress of the upload

[signal sequoia]

Loop Theories been proven wrong to death

[quasi rain]

damn it seems crazy mita seems to be unbeatable...

[icy gazelle]

im not saying it's a loop, im saying the console's right there for Mita to access

[signal sequoia]

Point being, while the safe & it's contents are definetly real, the Safe Ending is not canon

[hallow nebula]

Yeah

[signal sequoia]

I was making a correction about my mention of playthrough 2

& we are only a Cartridge by the end of the game, she can't do nothing to us until then

[icy gazelle]

ew scam

[signal sequoia]

K ILL YOURSELF‼️ ‼️

[quasi rain]

wait then how can we die when we pull it out before it reaches 100%

[signal sequoia]

Again Safe Ending pretty sure it isnt canon

Didnt actually happen

Just proving a point about the events of the game

[quasi rain]

not that one... the "ending" where we pull out the cartridge

[signal sequoia]

That is Safe Ending

[quasi rain]

oh... so im safe by being dead?

[signal sequoia]

what?

No it's called the Safe Ending cause its accessed by opening the Safe

[icy gazelle]

maybe the Player gaining access to the Safe isn't canon but there's no reason to think that the contents of it aren't canon lol

[quasi rain]

yeah but when we pull it out, we just fall and die literaly

[signal sequoia]

It's not a double entendre it's just called the Safe ending not because you are safe in it, but because you open a Safe in it

[quasi rain]

oh... damn im dumb as hell, i thought safe meant like being safe

[signal sequoia]

[quasi rain]

[icy gazelle]

Mita's aware of your every move throughout the game, so she could literally just be returning to 1.9 to check the console whenever she loses you

[signal sequoia]

Seems like a pretty notable detour given after 2D we immideatly find her, completely prepared to throw bombs at us

[signal sequoia]

& chainsaw us

Doesnt leave much room for a home-trip

[quasi rain]

oh i forgot she had bombs....... seems we cant beat crazy mita unless we have core mita on our side

[signal sequoia]

Equally plausible though im not gonna act like you're wrong

I just think the cartridge upload doesnt work like that

[signal sequoia]

Because if she can see us through the console, that means we are a cartridge already, despite Kind Mita proving that wrong

[gloomy stone]

well no, the cartridge upload takes time

[signal sequoia]

& if we were, she could just shut us off & boot us back up at her place

[icy gazelle]

well safe ending kinda shows that you can still see yourself even while you're being uploaded

[signal sequoia]

Yeah thats why I think it isnt possible & it's not how Crazy Mita was tailing us

[icy gazelle]

even if it's not canon, they could've just placed a loading bar instead

[signal sequoia]

It really doesnt

[icy gazelle]

if you were fully uploaded by the time you get to the safe ending then the counter would just say 100% at all times

so i think it's just merely having the cartridge in there that lets Mita see whatever the Player sees

i dont think she needs to fully upload your consciousness to be able to do that

[signal sequoia]

I think the tracker is accurate, but the console itself really shouldnt be sighted as a source of information

It's questionable at best

It's far simpler, & logistical, if we understand that she doesn't know our route to the core, but she knows enough of the required pit-stops to catch us off-guard there, [Tiny Mita, kinda, 2D Mita, Mila]

I guess Sleepy Mita got lucky

[icy gazelle]

Sleepy Mita is a must, so i think Crazy should have definitely showed up there if that was the case

[quasi rain]

Or she does know about sleepy mita, its just that she is just unimportant... i mean what can sleepy mita do other than stay away for 5 seconds?

[signal sequoia]

We were only there for like 5 minutes

2D Mita & Mila were much more lengthy expeditions

[signal sequoia]

Well, really like 3 if you're quick about it

Presumably in visual novel dimension the Player cant mash through text boxes

[icy gazelle]

yeah but if she knew you were gonna be there eventually she could've just gone there and waited for you to show up maybe

[quasi rain]

I could, and was done with 2d in 2 minutes

[signal sequoia]

Yeah but the player isnt you

[quasi rain]

Oh right... damn...

[signal sequoia]

Like the in-universe guy, Player 1

[quasi rain]

Yeah i know

[icy gazelle]

idk i just think her having access to what you see thanks to the console makes a bit more sense

[signal sequoia]

Well if Short-Haired Mita & her version speedrunning means anything, it seems you have to linearly follow down the versions to get somewhere

[icy gazelle]

though i can't come up with an explanation as to why the console would work without the player being fully uploaded into the cartridge

[signal sequoia]

You can find shortcuts to get to older versions faster, but we dont know how efficient Crazy Mita's routing is

[signal sequoia]

That's cause it AINT CANON‼️ ‼️

[icy gazelle]

then why even do it that way to begin with smh smh

[signal sequoia]

To amplify shock factor & confuse the fanbase

[gloomy stone]

the console itself is canon, the ending is not

[quasi rain]

Wait whats not cannon? Our cartridge or the console?

[icy gazelle]

idk it just seems paradoxical to have the timer be accurate but not the console

[signal sequoia]

I don't think they really thought about it as much as we are now

[icy gazelle]

perhaps

[signal sequoia]

THE ENDING, & POSSIBLY THE VISUAL DISPLAYED BY THE CONSOLE

GET A GRIP MAN‼️

[quasi rain]

Sorry, but alright

[icy gazelle]

either way, i dont think the ending not being canon is proof enough to disprove what the console shows

[signal sequoia]

To each their own

[icy gazelle]

like, if we could see the console before the upload in an actual canonical ending then that would actually be enough to disprove this entire thing

cuz we're just going off by what makes sense in our heads lmao

[signal sequoia]

That's the misery of speculating about an unfinished game

[icy gazelle]

this is true

[signal sequoia]

there's also the fact we're considering all the literal physical implications when the devs probably expected a huddle of philosophers discussing the vast horror aspects & how each Mita represents a different form of isolationism or something like that

[icy gazelle]

the mitas are actually the 7 deadly sins

[sick void]

hi chat

[tawny hull]

Hows it going crystal?

[signal sequoia]

it's all a metaphor for ww2

[icy gazelle]

for real

[sick void]

my papers for a report I made came back and I got a 94... couldn't be doing better

[signal sequoia]

Just ignore the fact there's 9 of them & it works

[icy gazelle]

Sleepy Mita is sloth

[signal sequoia]

potentially 10 if you count Prototype

[sick void]

wuts tiny mita..

[quasi rain]

Wait whats the theory now about, ww2? What the hell, only one match of dbl and what are these theories

[signal sequoia]

Wait, actually 11 my bad

[signal sequoia]

it is a joke
we are joking

[quasi rain]

Missing one more, long legged mita

[signal sequoia]

13 if we count dinosaur mita

[icy gazelle]

uhhhhh she's a baby so we just don't count her 😎

[quasi rain]

Dinosaur mita?!

[icy gazelle]

same for chibi mitas

[tawny hull]

LETS GOOOO

[quasi rain]

Wait where the hell is dinosaur mita?!?!

[signal sequoia]

that massive weird mf wandering the background of the moon, area, thing

[quasi rain]

Thats a mita too?

[signal sequoia]

yeah

Actually

[icy gazelle]

Crazy Mita is... lust? wrath? idfk

[signal sequoia]

15 Mitas if we count the ones we dont see

[icy gazelle]

guys what deadly sin does the Mitaphone represent

[quasi rain]

Where was it explain in the game? That the dino is a mita?

[signal sequoia]

we got enough for 2 sets of deadly sins

[signal sequoia]

Oh wait 16

[signal sequoia]

Everything in Miside is Mita, & also the model name

[quasi rain]

Damn... where is godzilla mita then?

[signal sequoia]

Envy?

[quasi rain]

Lets not turn into matpat and try to over analize a speaker shall we :)

[icy gazelle]

Mitaphone is the key to Miside's lore

[signal sequoia]

shut up eman

[icy gazelle]

oh yeah on a serious note, there's something i've been wondering

[quasi rain]

Yes sir....

[signal sequoia]

yuh-huh

[icy gazelle]

the ingame description states that Chibi Mita is the one speaking at the start, before the Player gets sucked into the game

what does that mean? to what extent?

[signal sequoia]

She's basically representing Crazy Mita

[signal sequoia]

She copies her actual actions in her room, but to her own mini version we see

[icy gazelle]

maybe it's a translation issue cuz it says speaks on behalf, not just recreates

[signal sequoia]

We see the 'real' Mita when she talks to us through her weird little booth set-up

[signal sequoia]

I think it's more figurative

[icy gazelle]

either way yeah that's something that confused me a bit cuz of the way it's worded

also is that Chibi Mita the same as the one that tells you to piss off when you follow her?

they got the same hair and stuff

or is it just the Chibi from a different Mita

where was she going anyways 😭

[signal sequoia]

[signal sequoia]

had something important to do i guess

[quasi rain]

to see dinosaur mita i guess....

[icy gazelle]

i dont think she matters much to the lore but the way the worldbuilding is laid out just makes me curious about these things

[signal sequoia]

Could be from another 0.98 Mita, could be from the one Crazy Mita skinned, mostly just a joke addition

[alpine glen]

Hi humans

[icy gazelle]

yo

[quasi rain]

yo

[icy gazelle]

also a better question is why didnt the player just take the chainsaw from Mita's basement smh smh

[autumn ridge]

Ikr... a perfect pochita chainsaw too

[signal sequoia]

why would he?

[icy gazelle]

idk, to defend himself?

[signal sequoia]

he's a coder he's built like a twig he couldnt haul around a chainsaw

[icy gazelle]

okay to be fair if i was in his place idk if my first thought would be to take it

[icy gazelle]

good point LOL

[signal sequoia]

He had to smack that one prototype like 3 times to get her off him

[icy gazelle]

i dont think he even knows how to throw a punch

[quasi rain]

well to be fair by the time crazy mita kills kind mita i would go bezerk and try to find crazy mita

[gloomy stone]

he knows how to throw his life away though

[signal sequoia]

oh yeah definetly sure cause you're 'him'

[icy gazelle]

it's the programmer mindset, you wouldn't get it

[gloomy stone]

i'm a CS major

[quasi rain]

eh not exactly

[icy gazelle]

then you would get it

[autumn ridge]

Game inventory, he has infinite game consoles in his back pocket so why not put a chainsaw in there too

[signal sequoia]

having a beheaded corpse thrown at you wouldnt effect you in anyway other than to make you angry of course not

[quasi rain]

i would still die due to crazy mita's superior strength... but atleast i know how to throw a punch

[gloomy stone]

yeah bro why didn't MC become sans undertale and kill her

terrible plot

[signal sequoia]

Especially not after being thrown in the nightmare blur 3 year-long monotony psycholigical ego death loop

[gloomy stone]

we call that 2 hours of programming in java

[signal sequoia]

No no, eman over here'd just tough it out

[icy gazelle]

he should have dodged her chainsaw, jumped behind her, and karate chopped her in the neck

[signal sequoia]

GET A GRIP‼️

[icy gazelle]

then take the chainsaw off of her and kill her with it

[gloomy stone]

stupid MC, why did he not use the chaos emeralds? stupid

[icy gazelle]

that's how you beat crazy mita

[signal sequoia]

he should've just known crazy mita was evil

[quasi rain]

yeah why did he even download the game smh

[icy gazelle]

he should've not downloaded a game from someone's dms

[signal sequoia]

if i was mc i would immideatly go to the basement & grab the chainsaw to chainsaw crazy mita

[icy gazelle]

if he knew basic internet security rules he wouldn't even be stuck in the game

[gloomy stone]

kids this is why you don't install random apk's, you never know when they suck you into the phone and get turned into a cartridge

[icy gazelle]

what a loser

[gloomy stone]

this is what google was warning us of

[icy gazelle]

actually who tf is M.K. i feel like the game never elaborates on that

[signal sequoia]

Well on that part it seems like it was just an update given it specified version, & was only like 200mb

[autumn ridge]

Also he played over a month and could have just stopped before that and deleted it.. maybe

[icy gazelle]

mf should have just downloaded subway surfers instead

[gloomy stone]

what a loser, he sat on his own pants for 1000 days

[quasi rain]

lmao

[gloomy stone]

seriously why did he even change outfits to then sit in his own room the whole day lol

[signal sequoia]

to get into the groove

hard to be productive when you're too comfortable

especially when sitting down

[icy gazelle]

actually i forgot, is the Player working for a company or is he self-employed?

[gloomy stone]

so you're saying being stabbed actually makes you more productive

[icy gazelle]

maybe he has to do online meetings and that's why he puts his suit on

[gloomy stone]

now i know what to try when i'm too lazy to code

[signal sequoia]

we dont know

[autumn ridge]

What do you reckon CM would've done if the MC just took the chainsaw and killed every mita he saw that wasn't her?

[signal sequoia]

His life is a blur to us

[icy gazelle]

fall for him even harder probably

[gloomy stone]

sounds like an undertale genocide route to me

[autumn ridge]

Exactly

[signal sequoia]

Not Tiny Mita...

[autumn ridge]

It is called miSIDE after all

[icy gazelle]

like hell yeah babe kill those fakes ❤️ ❤️

[signal sequoia]

[autumn ridge]

That would be horrifying... true

[tawny hull]

Hows it going deelon?

[icy gazelle]

honestly with the way Tiny Mita's dialogues sound you'd think that she got harmed by another player, are there any hints to it actually being Crazy Mita?

[autumn ridge]

Hi spouz

[icy gazelle]

besides the ingame description i mean

[signal sequoia]

her cartridge

[icy gazelle]

yeah

[tawny hull]

Yes i think so. Like she said your less mean too the mc

[buoyant holly]

Btw how did cm know player tried to reset her?

[signal sequoia]

Well no, because she basically cant remember anything except what happened in her current 'life'?

[tawny hull]

Probably looked at the cartridge player

[signal sequoia]

Presumably given her skin was reset she noticed somehow

[autumn ridge]

Watching through the console

[tawny hull]

How you doing?

[autumn ridge]

Yeah doing pretty okay. How are you?

[tawny hull]

Feeling better! Still sick tho

[tawny hull]

Is that what it called? I did not know

[quasi rain]

cause crazy mita is strong as hell, plus all mitas are stronger than the players due to them being robots yes even little mita, so it couldnt be a player

[autumn ridge]

Yeah the console she has his cartridge in

[signal sequoia]

????

[buoyant holly]

Fair enough, between the cartridge and the skin

[tawny hull]

OHHHH

[signal sequoia]

No that's... eman that's so wrong

[quasi rain]

how is it wrong, all the dummies are stronger than the player and all the mitas are robots with skins on

[signal sequoia]

After a Mita is given her skin she basically has this metaphorosis phase while they're still in the dark where they develop more humanoid internals

[icy gazelle]

did she confuse Crazy Mita for a player cuz of how fuzzy her memories became? and thats why she thinks you're the same person?

[signal sequoia]

Thats why Mila has guts spilled all over the floor & why they have blood

[quasi rain]

wait what the hell so the robot turns into 'flesh'?

[signal sequoia]

They basically become normal human women after a while

[buoyant holly]

Also do we know how the mitas know each others indexes?

[icy gazelle]

i say 'You' just to not have to type out Player 1 every single time lmao

[signal sequoia]

They dont, Kind Mita had to specifically find it

[autumn ridge]

Yeah this was something the devs confirmed in an interview

[quasi rain]

[tawny hull]

Its possible. As i pretty sure cm messed her up so she could have tricked in thinking it was a player doing it

[tawny hull]

WHAT THEEE

[signal sequoia]

Well no, because again, when a Mita is killed, memory reboot, & Tiny Mita was killed... we dont even know how many times

[buoyant holly]

Though how did she "find" cm's if hers isnt even registered

[buoyant holly]

As well as how do they find it in the first place

[quasi rain]

do mitas have limited regeneration?

[tawny hull]

Your right but she still says you seem less mean

[signal sequoia]

She didnt find Crazy Mita's index, because she doesnt have one, because she's a prototype, she found the index of the 0.98 Mita whose skin Crazy stole

[icy gazelle]

okay that makes sense considering the Mitas can bleed

[icy gazelle]

and Crazy Mita can't

[autumn ridge]

It seems like they accumulate errors over time with each regeneration

[quasi rain]

oh

[signal sequoia]

Yes it's generally agreed on she's referring to the big bug thing that chases you after loop like 13

[icy gazelle]

what even is that bug thing

is it yet another thing Creepy Mita gave birth to

[signal sequoia]

Again she has literal brainrot her perception is very f ucked

[buoyant holly]

Yes but how do they find that in the first place

[autumn ridge]

Since tiny mita eventually stopped being able to regenerate properly because she was killed so many times. It's also possible that KM's chibis die because she's been killed and regenerated a bunch of times too

[signal sequoia]

Don't... don't say she gave birth to them

That is, the worst possible wording

[icy gazelle]

sorry i just couldn't think of a different wording LOL

it's the first one that popped to my head

[signal sequoia]

We don't know, because we dont see it, presumably the same way Short-Haired Mita is able to inform us of indexes

[icy gazelle]

what i mean is, Creepy Mita is the one making those weird glitchy spiders right?

i mean we see her spawning one in one of her dialogues

is the big one that chases you also made by her?

[signal sequoia]

Due to her unfinished & degraded code she seems to cause them yes

[autumn ridge]

Those spiders are just been to an embodiment of glitches

[signal sequoia]

probably

[lucid sable]

-# hello guys

[autumn ridge]

Supposedly I heard that massive one that follows you in the loop is from the player who was originally with TM...

[signal sequoia]

It's a theory

[autumn ridge]

Yeah

[icy gazelle]

well if that was the case then i dont think Crazy Mita would've been the one to do that to him, cuz she would have just turned him into a cartridge

[signal sequoia]

I'm pretty sure it's just a bug, could be a dude that was turned into a bug, but probably just a bug

[autumn ridge]

A theory from a game.... one could even say a game theory

[quasi rain]

lmao

[signal sequoia]

Well given she killed Tiny Mita uh checks notes too many f ucking times for checks notes 'being too cute', I think she's petty enough to turn someome who spent time with her into a mindless monster

You know, just to f uck with her more

[icy gazelle]

yeah but given her thing is just turning players into cartridges, it feels weird for that player to be the one exception

maybe he fought back and thats why she didnt want him

[signal sequoia]

She turns her players into cartridges

We have no idea what she does to other Mitas' players

[icy gazelle]

didnt Kind Mita say that Crazy Mita turned her player into one

[signal sequoia]

Presumably cause it was the fastest option

[icy gazelle]

or am i misremembering,,,

[signal sequoia]

& again, the entire Tiny Mita situation was out of petty spite

I think given all that petty spite, she would be very willing to not turn that player into a cartridge but instead into a corrupted abomination

[icy gazelle]

it could also be possible that he became that after being attacked by the glitch spiders

[buoyant holly]

Nah she probably turns any players into one

[signal sequoia]

very brazen with our assumption making today

[icy gazelle]

like, in the Player 1's case he just gets pushed back when touching one, but maybe that Player got surrounded by them and then got turned into that thing

[quasi rain]

are there theories on who is core mita?

[signal sequoia]

She's Core Mita

Game solved go home

[autumn ridge]

She didn't turn blondie into one, he's been there for a whole year

[icy gazelle]

probably the template that the other Mitas are based from

[signal sequoia]

....the template is the prototypes

core mita is core mita

[autumn ridge]

Hard to say. Someone who watches over the dev console and protects it against interference, probably also responsible for keeping the world running for whatever its true purpose is

[buoyant holly]

Since the player cartridges logs not all of them are crazy mita's but crazy mita is the only one turning people into cartridges plus kind mita literally says she turned her player into one too. Plus no idea who the player was at the beginning before freeing kind mita though he was already a cartridge

[quasi rain]

we need more lore for her

[icy gazelle]

or maybe Core Mita just exists as a security measure

[autumn ridge]

Indeed I agree

[signal sequoia]

No no, they're all Crazy Mita, just wearing different skins, except for maybe that 1 guy

[quasi rain]

that seems too simple

[icy gazelle]

like some sort of antivirus

[signal sequoia]

She's a mystery thats kind of the point

[icy gazelle]

i mean it makes sense, idk if she needs to be more than that

[signal sequoia]

More information would spoil her mystique

[quasi rain]

truee

[gloomy stone]

she is norton 360

[icy gazelle]

i was about to ask if Crazy Mita could even enter the core but then i remembered that some player described himself staying there for a while just to hide from her

[buoyant holly]

True, no clue what his backstory is but he seemed to want to be there

[autumn ridge]

Yeah searching for his mita

[craggy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-water-gif-11329368152092389193

[icy gazelle]

is the blond guy connected to Crazy Mita or did he just get pulled into the game by a different Mita

[signal sequoia]

we dunno

[tired phoenix]

and yet he still turned into a cartridge afterward

[signal sequoia]

blondies just kinda there, probably still a crazy mita simp

[icy gazelle]

he did? which one,,,

[tired phoenix]

the cartridge that said he was hiding away from CM in the core

[buoyant holly]

So every mita that the players in the cartridges were talking about were just fakes?

[tired phoenix]

i guess Core Mita just throw him to the v 1.9 when notice he being there for so long and let Crazy Mita finish the job

[icy gazelle]

oh wait you weren't replying to the convo about the blond Player nvm

[signal sequoia]

Not fakes, they're all real Mitas, just real Mitas being impersonated by Crazy Mita

[icy gazelle]

my bad

[signal sequoia]

I think the more reasonable assumption we can get from that is the a cartridge upload happens automatically & doesnt require Crazy Mita's prescence

[icy gazelle]

yeah he probably just got kicked out by Core Mita LOL

[icy gazelle]

that seems reasonable too

[tired phoenix]

also a good possibility

[buoyant holly]

Well for the game's sake guess we just have to take it as that

[icy gazelle]

also is the 'real world' from the main ending actually real?

[autumn ridge]

Omg melly hi!

[icy gazelle]

for a moment i thought maybe the Player managed to escape but Mita kept the cartridge copy of him, since she went like "the Real you isn't needed anymore"

[signal sequoia]

No, thats why the mirror made the game lag

[icy gazelle]

but it seems to be implied that he died

[ebon wren]

[signal sequoia]

The whole point is very obviously showing 'Oh, we're boned'

[buoyant holly]

I dont really get mita's plan though, considering there is a stay option but some of the players in the cartridges seemed totally fine staying with her

[icy gazelle]

she got bored of them

[quasi rain]

what have i missed

im currently getting stared down by core mita

[buoyant holly]

So pretty much our stay option is just until she gets bored

[signal sequoia]

No no, you guys got it all wrong

[buoyant holly]

Should of just stayed with cappie

[quasi rain]

true

[signal sequoia]

Crazy Mita inherently wants a two-sided dynamic, a 'real' relationship, one she cant cultivate because of how she puts up a mask & yet lets cracks seep through it, but it someone takes notice, it's mask off, it's over

But everyone was scared away by her, & anyone who simply ignored the cracks was just, simply a simp, they didn't want to see the 'real' Mita, they wanted to project out their idealized version of her unto Crazy Mita

& even if they didnt, it wasnt a real relationship there wasnt a 'real' dynamic, it was just a man, or woman servant hanging off her every word singing her praises day & night

[icy gazelle]

okay yeah, 'loving you no matter what' ≠ 'loving you for who you are'

[signal sequoia]

That isn't 'real', that's not what it's like to have true love, so, in all her spite she rejects them & shoves them off into cartridges

[icy gazelle]

Crazy Mita wants the latter, not the former

[craggy oriole]

waves

[signal sequoia]

Ironic considering her being rejected is how she got her start

[boreal cradle]

I doubt if Mita cares about that even. Just look at the history of players

a dude is on endless search for Mita despite fingers being chopped off

[icy gazelle]

she has crazy high expectations smh

[signal sequoia]

Again, simps

[buoyant holly]

Her best bet was player 10

[signal sequoia]

Guy was a simp, not a real relationship, not a real dynamic

[ebon wren]

Why those all new player except GGG

[icy gazelle]

you have to love me for who i am but also you can't just simp for me cuz that's lame

[signal sequoia]

im teaching the younglings media literacy

[boreal cradle]

issue is Mita always gets bored no matter how hard you try in every form

[icy gazelle]

mf is so picky no wonder she got rejected smh smh

[ebon wren]

Funny enough is they in the server longer than you

[signal sequoia]

Quacker & CTRL?

[boreal cradle]

you are totally out of luck if you are a female. There was a cosplayer died too. im assuming player was female

[icy gazelle]

i just joined

[signal sequoia]

No they arrived like a week later

[buoyant holly]

Player 10? all he was doing was teaching her engineering. Rather than him being a simp I feel like she just got what she needed then shoved him into a cartridge william afton style

[icy gazelle]

i mean i was here before just to check the server out but i left and came back today

[quasi rain]

damn poor guy

[icy gazelle]

lesson: never be an engineer

[boreal cradle]

she even uses other players to kill players by disassembling cartridges

[signal sequoia]

I was referring to how bbb was talking about, pretty sure blondie? Or one of the other cartridges

[quasi rain]

waaaait... i noticed something, isnt 1.9 kind mita's version?

[signal sequoia]

Yes

[icy gazelle]

yeah

[signal sequoia]

Crazy Mita broke in & sealed Kind Mita in her own basement

[boreal cradle]

i stil doubt it. Just look at the pictures of the room and promotional logo for the app

[icy gazelle]

i'm assuming 1.9 is the version native to all the long haired mitas just like Kind Mita

[quasi rain]

then why at the end of the game after kind mita dies and we unsuccesfully rebooted crazy why is crazy still in 1.9 after kind mita was reset?

[icy gazelle]

okay to be fair the app logo could just be outdated

but also, Mita is able to change the rooms layout as much as she wishes

[signal sequoia]

Do you think- No it's impossible... she could've... replaced the pictures????

[icy gazelle]

she probably just replaced the pictures and UI

[signal sequoia]

Because we arent in 1.9 at that point we're in 0.98

[quasi rain]

uh huh? but the ring says 1.9

[autumn ridge]

How you doing mate?

[boreal cradle]

there isnt much of hint to say it. Every Mita always has signature photos of their own version.

[icy gazelle]

if 1.9 wasn't Kind Mita's version then she wouldn't have respawned there when Crazy Mita killed her

[signal sequoia]

It's not like she's been very poorly trying to avoid suspicion for ages at that point

[buoyant holly]

Indeed, if she wanted something loving wise she could of at least tried with him though she just blanked him. No clue why our player is any better

[craggy oriole]

Im alright. I need coffee

[signal sequoia]

Presumably engineer guy was an entirely utilitarian seduction

[sick void]

Coffee does like nothing to me for some reason... I could be Hella tired and a huge cup of coffee can't save me... I mean it tastes good ig

[icy gazelle]

also the reason Kind Mita isn't there in the game's ending is simply cuz Protag made her follow him

she's probably still stuck in the Core's entrance

[autumn ridge]

Agreed i had one just before

[quasi rain]

but after we get thrown she isnt in the chair anymore

[buoyant holly]

Yep, so based on that I dont get her goals since she seemed to have used some of the players purely for her own gain even if they were normal

[sick void]

yeowch

[signal sequoia]

Oh wait

[boreal cradle]

for whatever reason we ended up in 1.5 instead of 1.9

Despite probably downloading latest version

[sick void]

we got to meet the big bad short haired mita

[signal sequoia]

She's still in there because she wasnt rebooted, & that's where she was last, so she's just sitting around

[quasi rain]

so she didnt see us flying?

[signal sequoia]

Well the teleporter just bugged out, presumably cross dimensional cyberspace teleportation isnt an exact science

[buoyant holly]

Our player doesnt have anything defining, all he did was just run away from her and when he did do everything to stay, any of the other players could have done that

[signal sequoia]

what?

[icy gazelle]

i actually can't tell cuz you can't use photo mode during the cutscene where Core Mita throws you

[quasi rain]

we get sent flying through the door after we enter the code, so kind mita just sat there watching the player fly through the damn door

[icy gazelle]

but if she actually is gone then maybe she just got unloaded for that cutscene specifically lmao

[signal sequoia]

I think she takes interest well, one because she wants to see something in every player she interacts with, & two, because we very uniquely resist her, we survive every trap & foible to the very end, Player 1 is durable, unlike the others

'Built different', if you will

[sick void]

imagine if peaceful mode is a whole different story to the game where the player figures out what mita was trying to do to him and tries to stop her in a different way-

[sick void]

(I love a worthless rant)

[buoyant holly]

It could just be the thing that bully short haired mita messed with the the system

[signal sequoia]

No we got chucked into the floor & presumably Core Mita code manipulation took us back

[quasi rain]

oh maybe

[signal sequoia]

She just heard a loud thud & saw Core Mita stanced up

[buoyant holly]

So it all just comes down to "I like a challenge" as she told kind mita

[quasi rain]

ima check again

wait kind mita aint there

[signal sequoia]

No she wouldn't have a capability like that, remember, she's the one that 'forgets things', to explain the scrawls on the wall, she doesnt know whats going on & has no reason to

[quasi rain]

she aint there

[icy gazelle]

considering the door opened i'm pretty sure she just throws you through the door lmao

[signal sequoia]

Yeah we're a conquest for her, especially if she can actually get us to see her side

[signal sequoia]

She is eman

[buoyant holly]

Would prefer if I had an actual peaceful mode though your idea sounds like a good idea for another path. Say peaceful mode is its own thing and then stay with mita is the other route

[quasi rain]

sure?

[signal sequoia]

Eman, the whole point is she is there, but the model isnt to save on ram or something

[quasi rain]

this is before we get thrown btw

[buoyant holly]

Then I wonder how we ended up in 1.5 in the first place. Cant really trust cm's words

[signal sequoia]

This isnt an actual lore thing eman

[quasi rain]

damn

[icy gazelle]

yeah its not like you're supposed to be able to see her from all the way over there, i think Kind Mita's model just got unloaded

[signal sequoia]

Short-Haired Mita tells us that that version of her 'forgets things', what are you referring to?

[icy gazelle]

yeah the short haired mita from 1.5 ain't the same as crazy mita

[buoyant holly]

While we were repairing the portal

[icy gazelle]

it's just some random mita that's there to annoy you during that initial section of the game

[signal sequoia]

Uh.. she seems more scared & confused than anything

[icy gazelle]

i mean she takes the batteries off the machine and hides them around the house

i think she's just messing with you

[signal sequoia]

We don't know that she did that, given she actively hides from sight & keeps asking 'Who are you?'

[icy gazelle]

i mean she's the only one there besides the Player, and kept leaving messages saying "Wanna play?"

[buoyant holly]

Ok from another stance, when we go into the game what version are we in?

[icy gazelle]

plus she's described as a bully by the Short Haired Mita we meet later

[signal sequoia]

1.5

[icy gazelle]

so i dont think she's scared

plus if she was scared she wouldn't just wave her hand at you through the windows that just seems silly lmao

confused yes, scared? not really

[copper crypt]

She's just doing a lil bit of trolling

[buoyant holly]

So how did we get there if the player had the game updated to the latest one? Since cm's words cant really be trusted and when she was explaining it she still seemed to be hiding explanations

As well as why are there portals in multiple versions in the first place?

[signal sequoia]

teleporter bungle

[icy gazelle]

considering she's forgetful, maybe she just doesn't know about Players

[signal sequoia]

Presumably the teleporter took us & itself with it

Alright its nearly 2 in the morning i really got to go to sleep

i've lored enough for one day...

[icy gazelle]

i think Crazy Mita just screwed up with the teleporter and accidentally teleported us into the wrong version

[buoyant holly]

Though its also in cappie's version too

[icy gazelle]

yeah cuz she was building one

[signal sequoia]

Thatz cause she made a teleporter

man did you like, pay attention, at all?

to the plot of the game?

[buoyant holly]

I know she knew how to use it but never know she actually built it

[signal sequoia]

Cause this is a really important plot point

[buoyant holly]

Since the only time you see a mita actually building it is crazy mita

And she had to actually be taught how to build it in the first place

[signal sequoia]

& what crazy mita, out of the kindness of her heart, made & then gave schematics to Cappie?

[buoyant holly]

What?

[icy gazelle]

it's pretty clear in the dialogue that Cappie was the one who was building the teleporter in her version

that's all there is to it

[signal sequoia]

you said it like crazy mita was the only mita capable of constructing a teleporter

[buoyant holly]

Aight cool, then I just forgot about that part then

[signal sequoia]

ok, gone for realsies, dni

honk honk shoo

[icy gazelle]

they were gonna do it to travel through versions faster, which would have especially been useful for the Player since he has to get to the core

[icy gazelle]

but the machine's incomplete and Cappie got killed and rebooted, meaning they couldn't use it

[buoyant holly]

@signal sequoia I said she was the only one seen building it. Forgot it was mentioned cappie was building it but there wasnt a need to be a prick about it

[icy gazelle]

i mean yeah, only Crazy Mita is visually shown to be building their machine

but yeah it was one of the first things mentioned when you get to Cappie's version lol

though with how much stuff happens throughout the game i guess it's fine to forget details like that

[buoyant holly]

Ye forgot entirely. Pretty cool she did figure out how while she could

[icy gazelle]

meanwhile Kind Mita had no idea how to build one

this is why Cappie is better smh smh

[quasi rain]

gotta snooze see ya

[buoyant holly]

Frfr

[autumn ridge]

Cappie too powerful

[buoyant holly]

I think favourite mitas for me is either cappie or mila though I think those two are popular as is anyway

[upper rain]

REAL

[boreal cradle]

what if Ryder trained Mila ninja skills?

[autumn ridge]

So this was her breaking cappies teleporter btw. You can see in the video that it's cappies room, and there's also tools for disassembling left around when you eventually get there

[icy gazelle]

honestly i'm most attached to Tiny Mita

the fact that they didn't give us an option to pet her head or hug her is despicable

but besides Tiny Mita, i guess Cappie is my favorite yeah

[autumn ridge]

I know i really wanted to.. poor girl

[buoyant holly]

Peaceful mode should give us progression to heal tiny mita to her good condition imo

Since the player should be able to do that somehow, maybe the core has a feature like that

[autumn ridge]

If that's even possible. But peaceful mode is only gonna be with CM 😦

[buoyant holly]

Wait fr?

There goes my hopes and dreams

[autumn ridge]

Sorry 😭

[buoyant holly]

So is peaceful mode even peaceful? Since KM is still in the basement

[autumn ridge]

Check #❖-faq-частые-вопросы

[autumn ridge]

That's what I wanna know

[buoyant holly]

Like sure cm wont attack the other mitas assumably since she has a player to spend time with for now but kind mita is just gonna be down there the whole time

[buoyant holly]

Fr

Its not like you wont hear the knocking near the wardrobe

[autumn ridge]

She did say during the start of the game that she'll "eventually" introduce us to the others

But idk if that carries over at all or really means anything

[buoyant holly]

The other mitas?

[fallow remnant]

so that jumpscare was just a mask of hers? uwaa

where did she even get the idea of using it like that

[autumn ridge]

That's what I presume idek

[buoyant holly]

Same since at the end of the game she mentions "everyone is waiting" though no clue who that everyone is

[icy gazelle]

well even if it wasn't just gonna be Crazy Mita in Peaceful Mode, it's hard to imagine her coexisting with the other Mitas

for starters the other Mitas already seem pretty aware of her, so just cuz she calmed down it doesn't mean they'll be accepting of her

[buoyant holly]

I thought it was gonna be a thing where we got to pick the mita we wanted to hang out with

Nice regardless though

[tawny hull]

Is it the ghost mita face?

[fallow remnant]

not at all, it's what that crazy wench use to jumpscare you in the kitchen

[autumn ridge]

Perhaps once she has a partner of her own, some things will change? Dunno

[fallow remnant]

her model disappears after she did the deed, but simply enabling her model again the dev console will give you that

[tawny hull]

i think its possible tho!!!

[buoyant holly]

Would of been cool if we had a player log that also discovered they were a cartridge, wrote their thoughts on it then just alt f4ed by ripping it out themselves like the safe ending

[icy gazelle]

okay i just installed a free cam mod and yeah, Kind Mita sits there and watches you fly through the door when Core Mita throws you LOL

im actually not sure why she's not in the screenshots eman sent

[fallow remnant]

she wont be there if you directly load the last chapter, not the reboot chapter

that's why the door is also closed, it will open when you load it through 'reboot' chapter

[icy gazelle]

oh you're right lol

i was loading from the reboot chapter

now i just tried to load from the last chapter and sure enough, Kind Mita is nowhere to be seen

[rugged girder]

So I have read most of the lore and I’m newer to the game although I’ve watched complete play through and I have the game myself.

Now, having dealing with AI, girlfriends myself and experimenting with those applications like Replika, for example, the whole entire game gives me a vibe of what happens when real humans delete the app of the AI girlfriend and abandoned them altogether.
Which in my eyes is why all of the Mitas don’t want you to leave them at all because of the fact that they would face everlasting loneliness.

My question is since each one resides in a house that is on a different version of the game and because of the fact that I have watched someone explain a theory or a dark truth about the game, saying that they are abandoned once the player updates to the latest version of the game ,

Does it mean that when a new version of the game is downloaded the old ones are abandoned?

But that doesn’t make any sense because with typical AI girlfriend games your girlfriend would stay with you throughout each updated version so if that is the case, then why are all of them on older versions abandoned?

Because if you take it in literal terms, each version is just an update to the game itself, so what would each version of the game symbolize if it’s more than just an update?

[fallow remnant]

some of those things are discussed in the pinned documents, you may read them. they are all an interesting read

[rugged girder]

Unless they are multiple worlds across multiple versions that were abandoned previously and I will read

[fallow remnant]

i would like to say that the players will stay with their chosen Mita even if they updated their game, but there are no evidence supporting or against it

[icy gazelle]

honestly if you think of them as game updates then yeah, the way the versions are laid out are a bit weird

my guess was that the actual game would've had some sort of customization, and the only thing that changed across versions was the default Mita you'd get

[fallow remnant]

it really is, and I feel like there's so much to expand

[icy gazelle]

in other words, updating from a version to another would carry over the Mita from the older version into the new version

[autumn ridge]

Tbh most of the logic of the game actually makes no real sense if you think about it 😭

[icy gazelle]

but starting a new game would summon a different Mita

[autumn ridge]

It's all just kind of arbitrary

[fallow remnant]

the player would need the machine gun from the cable car to do real damage 😂

[icy gazelle]

though if Kind Mita was spending time with a different player in the 1.9 version before Crazy Mita showed up, then i wonder why our Player is playing it

[autumn ridge]

Yeah he should just rip it off ira hinges and take it

[icy gazelle]

i guess if a player dies/deletes their game they get replaced with a different Player?

so you just inherit a Mita from a previous player?

idk

like, this is if like i downloaded the game and got someone else's save file

or maybe it's just this copy of the game that's special

it's weird

[autumn ridge]

Hmm hmm

i think each time you start a new game it's meant to be a new mita and the ones that are for other players just get left behind

[icy gazelle]

i guess so

[autumn ridge]

the game seems to be woefully developed given they just have assembly lines discarding mita dummies the whole time

if it's a game surely they can just be deleted instantly

[tawny hull]

Is its not you just getting reseted? Or something?

[autumn ridge]

It's just from what SHM said it sounded like each time you hit "new game" you get an entirely new mita

[shadow mesa]

the soda cans with the pencil, perhaps it means that the mita was there, or that she is observing somewhere.

Tiny Mita talks about an aggressive player, she could be talking about the monster, or about a player. In the dream, Mita activates a cartridge and makes a player hunt me.

[autumn ridge]

yeah possibly

[lyric forum]

The chainsaw could work too

[tawny hull]

OR IS IT THE SOUL OF THES HOUSE THE THING THAT POWERS THE HOUSES!!!

[lyric forum]

Crazy Mita
VS
THE 7 PLAYER SOULS

[autumn ridge]

mila's katana could parry the chainsaw im telling you

[shadow mesa]

Are you talking about the hands? They are bugs like the monster.

[lyric forum]

https://tenor.com/view/daily-ao-oni-ao-oni-daily-oni-flowey-you're-supposed-to-obey-me-gif-7611407938794048540

[lyric forum]

This will definitely be how good ending basically is

[lyric forum]

Wouldn’t the chainsaw cause torque on the sword, ripping it out of hand?

[autumn ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil4remake-parry-knife-chainsaw-leon-s-kennedy-gif-27081355

😤

[shadow mesa]

This breaks the laws of logic

[lyric forum]

Dang, you’re right

https://youtu.be/4beMWcQQuUA?si=Po5bbw060aF2NzO3

[autumn ridge]

yeah chainsaws are actually fairly easy to damage irl

i guess it's because she had a pochita chainsaw

[lyric forum]

Tbh I thought Mila was saving the Moai for crazy and was gonna just
CLUNK
Her with it

[autumn ridge]

LOL a real bonk

[lyric forum]

I don’t think crazy mita could survive that to the face

The game would go VERY differently if the main character had moderate cqc skill

[gloomy stone]

the MC is not him

you wouldn't be him either

[autumn ridge]

😭

so negative... we have hopes and dreams

[gloomy stone]

like what else are you gonna say lol, should've gone super sonic there?

[lyric forum]

Counterpoint, more consoles; simply summon the cartridge players

[autumn ridge]

clone your own cartridge like 500 times

[gloomy stone]

oh boy more meat for her to mow down lol

[lyric forum]

30 billion chibi clones vs crazy

[autumn ridge]

CM vs 100 billion lions

[autumn ridge]

so true

[ebon wren]

Andrija 😭

[autumn ridge]

oh true "MC" now means andrija doesn't it

[lyric forum]

But like genuinely
Nothing is stopping the Mita’s from summoning the cartridge players

You’d think at least 1 or two would be wanting revenge after feeling betrayed

[autumn ridge]

omg it could be like scott pilgrim you gotta fight all of CM's cartridge players first

[lyric forum]

“You and what army”
THIS ARMY

Also
With even one other players help, your cartridge could be safely taken out while the console is off

Something I feel like would have been could would be rather than leaving the mitas
“While I can’t stay, why don’t you come with me?”
Which leads to the similar situation of crazy getting 8v1’ed

[autumn ridge]

hi mc

how's life going?

[grave schooner]

i just woke up to find out im in a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWRnmu7lRmw&t=1087s

[autumn ridge]

oh?

[lyric forum]

And in the unlikely event the player both gets a few of the players (who likely are more willing to fight than the mita’s) and some of the mita’s

Even with all that power and bugs AND the help of creepy mita and heck, even some dummies
Crazy is just cooked

[autumn ridge]

oh no someone did a video on this junk oh mY GOD

tell me this is a shitpost it sounds like a shitpost....

[grave schooner]

LO

[bleak fractal]

YOU ARE ALIVEEEEE

[autumn ridge]

bro this video is edited too well 💀

he says andrija too many times

[shrewd coral]

Sup

[autumn ridge]

hi hi how's it going?

[autumn ridge]

this is giving me brain damage

[grave schooner]

im honored

[shrewd coral]

Nice, you? Tried running the build? If you have any feedback i would be grateful

[lyric forum]

I don’t understand this but
Fnaf: neurons activated

[bleak fractal]

noway bro take the first scence

[autumn ridge]

i grabbed it last night haven't played yet

[bleak fractal]

@grand bay

[autumn ridge]

andrija i swear to GOD

[grand bay]

I send it to him

[bleak fractal]

Pervert

[grand bay]

I translate it today

[autumn ridge]

what is this video

[grave schooner]

I can imagine how many more videos there will be

[grand bay]

Miside eastern eggs

[tawny hull]

Cat andrija

[autumn ridge]

4CK812 pasted everywhere and the guy says "andrija" like 999 times

[bleak fractal]

[autumn ridge]

miside iceburg getting a bit deep

[craggy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-gif-15027625536892177343

[grand bay]

Cancel this guy btw, he don't remind abt Serv4ntism

[grave schooner]

LOL

[autumn ridge]

hi again melly

[grave schooner]

im about to bring game theory out to break the lore

time to ping matpat on twitter

[craggy oriole]

waves

[autumn ridge]

go on then mr famous hot shot

[grand bay]

He literally open 4CK812 and go to ur file

[grave schooner]

proof?

oh oyu meant

the guy

nvm im braindead\

[grand bay]

His video

[grave schooner]

i know

[autumn ridge]

ohgod i think i drank too much coffee

[craggy oriole]

transfer the caffeine to me

[autumn ridge]

you want some extra anxiety too?

[craggy oriole]

it makes me calm

[bleak fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-small-gif-16965582269634372746

[autumn ridge]

it... does?

[craggy oriole]

i have adhd. its why i drink so much coffee

[grave schooner]

bro should have included my cosplay next to my discord bio 😭

"hes literally the mc"

[grand bay]

This video will be on 4CK812 board of shame!

[bleak fractal]

and sleepy

[ebon wren]

So it true?😭

[grave schooner]

yes

[bleak fractal]

😭

[autumn ridge]

coffee just wards off headaches and gives me anxiety 😭

[grand bay]

You've been punished to the fullest....

[grave schooner]

what do you mea

[autumn ridge]

you in the thick of it

this is going to be your legacy

is this not enough punishment to last a lifetime?

[grand bay]

Andrija arg....

[ebon wren]

Idk about mc legacy but

[ebon wren]

This coming to the ooc

[lyric forum]

From the beers to the keys
To the car to the tree
Where’s my license? There’s no need
Always drama when I speed!

[autumn ridge]

WHYTHOUGH

[ebon wren]

You tell me

[grand bay]

Go read 4CK812 purple jar theory!!!!

[autumn ridge]

this is the worst advice anyone has ever given in the history of the human race

[ebon wren]

This coming to quote

[autumn ridge]

AAAHH

[ebon wren]

It quote

Not ooc dont worry Deelong

[autumn ridge]

my life is endless worry

[copper crypt]

From the screen 💻 to the ring 💍 to the PEN 🖊️to the king 🤴 wheres my crown 👑 thats my bling 💎 always trouble when i reign 😈

[autumn ridge]

💀 no

[long quiver]

Yo Mr lucid dreamer. I have pretty lucid dreams these days too

[grand bay]

Хммм, translate this....

[long quiver]

Except my dream are like I'm living someone else's lifr

[long quiver]

Hmmmm

[shadow mesa]

I can't say if they are lucid, because I have no control, I can hardly do anything within the dream that has an efficient change

[long quiver]

I can do some things. Like the one I had today, I saved the girl and her mother from the explosion of my own will but sadly the son died

[shadow mesa]

In the dreams I have, a lot of bad things happen. because there are things far beyond the reality we have, a violence never understood, an exclusively new fear. unique experiences, but my dreams, everything has a meaning. everything has a reason

I had a dream about a war in Andromeda, the leader said "here we are all dead, we will fight to live again".

In Andromeda's nightmare we invaded the capital of a country, the sun was artificial, it was rectangular. the planet did not have a real sun. and the war is because the sun was being controlled by a country that wanted to prevent the sun from rising in political adversary countries.

[long quiver]

Hmm mine do too but on a scale I can understand except for some. This one in particular was 50-50. I was walking as an employee of some company and there was an exhibition or something which was cancelled due to an explosive gas detected leaking from beneath the ground. All were escaping but there was one afro american or maybe Brazilian looking old woman with her daughter around 16-17 who were running towards the forbidden building to save their brother n son but were denied by authorities. Then I acted of my own will nd went to help them, the poor girl was so sad and felt like I know her but I didnt nd then stuff happened but we couldn't save her brother..

[long quiver]

U might be having a quantum entanglement with a being in Andromeda

[shadow mesa]

I don't believe it

[lyric forum]

I think we now need to calculate the most important part of Miside lore
How long would it take Britain to colonize the game

[long quiver]

That's the only possible explanation

[long quiver]

Eternity because they got no brains anymore

[lyric forum]

30 minutes

[autumn ridge]

@craggy oriole can you take this caffeine now please i can't be trusted with this

[craggy oriole]

yes

[grave schooner]

only mentioned 15 times maybe

[autumn ridge]

15!?

[grave schooner]

yeah

maybe(?)

[autumn ridge]

you're too based

[grave schooner]

not really

[autumn ridge]

yes really wtf

[autumn ridge]

goof ball everyone loves you

[grave schooner]

nop

[autumn ridge]

yop

you are lying to yourself in this current moment

[grave schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-grimes-not-gaf-serving-andrew-lincoln-gif-6620859045453888849

[bleak fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kiss-catkiss-cat-kiss-cat-kissing-gif-16899029469483761674

[grave schooner]

bwaa

[frank radish]

Bwaaaa

[worldly briar]

GOODNIGHT MY SUGAR PLUMS

[long quiver]

Goodnight bwaa

[autumn ridge]

goodnight mate

[lyric forum]

Goodnight
I ated the eep demons

[autumn ridge]

eeping will be safe 🙏

i always eep well because I know our mods are watching out for us 😊 ❤️

[grand bay]

Agree my boy

[void aurora]

Good morning chat 🥶🐟

[autumn ridge]

hi hi 🐟 how are you today?

[void aurora]

I doing pea?

[autumn ridge]

doing pea?

[void aurora]

I'm eating green pea rn

[autumn ridge]

oh?

[gloomy stone]

singular pea

[autumn ridge]

tasty pea?

[void aurora]

Please don't tell bean I don't want to share my pea with her 🥶

Is peaceful mode release yet?

[bronze pawn]

gulp

[autumn ridge]

fair enough there would not be much to go around

[autumn ridge]

hi hi marco! how are you doing?

[void aurora]

Why is your name, Deebwaa?

[bronze pawn]

im fine, done working out (yes i go outside 🤯)

[gloomy stone]

mods outside? must be a holiday

[void aurora]

Mods that go outside?
No way 🤯

[autumn ridge]

nice dude, hope you're feeling satisfied with your workout 🙏

[snow lynx]

5x30

[shrewd coral]

All current bugs, that was found in 0.4 version of ue5 MiSide are fixed
Yay

[autumn ridge]

yay! that's good!

[gloomy stone]

there's a ue5 version?

[boreal cradle]

??

[gloomy stone]

i have been living under a stone

[boreal cradle]

Same lmao. Altho I only saw gameplay on YouTube almost a year back

[gloomy stone]

that being said UE5 has a bad rep already for awful performance

send the build over if you'd like, i can test on some funny hardware

[shrewd coral]

Not really, just a fun showcase

[shrewd coral]

You can find it in my message history in this chat

[gloomy stone]

ah so it's just a scenario showcase

[shrewd coral]

Kind of

[gloomy stone]

hm is there somewhere to change the settings? mine looks a bit ugly for some reason

[shrewd coral]

No ui yet, wip
Just walk a bit
Check the bathroom

[autumn ridge]

yeah im playing now and need higher fov

[gloomy stone]

ahh lol

[autumn ridge]

or motion sickness hits me 😦

[gloomy stone]

the voices

[autumn ridge]

i think it's also not running at the right resolution 😭

looks like 1920x1080 on a 2k screen

[summer wedge]

SHA SHA SHA 256 256 256 £AAAAAARHAJA

[summer wedge]

I don't feel so good

Mita is C@lling me?

[autumn ridge]

is there somewhere to go once you get to the house that shows the woods outside?

im just walking around but can't find anything to interact with

[shrewd coral]

Sadly, no
As i said it is "work in progress"
Next update will probably will be next week, with bugfixes and quality of life updates

[autumn ridge]

aaah okay

thanks for your hard work 🙏

[grand bay]

Когда обнова?)

[gloomy stone]

it's a good showing

although my GPU is displeased lmao

good god 8gb vram lol

[shrewd coral]

На след неделе, написал же, но многого не ждите, я сейчас загружен работой

[autumn ridge]

mine runs well except it's a 7900XTX so that probably does not say much

[shrewd coral]

It's mostly dynamic allocation, it runs with 3 Gb GPU

My 3060 mobile runs it pretty smoothly

[gloomy stone]

RT is on right? explains my GPU's sadness

[shrewd coral]

I think about turning on resolution scaling

Don't know if it's needed tho

[autumn ridge]

wild this maxes out gpu usage though wow

idk what fps is

[shrewd coral]

2k res 70-90 fps

[shrewd coral]

dynamic allocation for shaders

i mean ue5 is not that bad, it looks gorgeous anyway

[autumn ridge]

unreal is so just.. idk

[shrewd coral]

I like my ue5(

[autumn ridge]

dodgy engine imo 😭

it can work well but optimising is really weird in it, and so many companies just dont do it 😦

[shrewd coral]

like it far better than unity, I have a lot more experience with C++ and pay model is much more plesant for indie devs
Optimising will come with time. UE 5.1 runs like dogshit even on high end hardware, 5.51 is much better optimised

also native occlusion culling and auto-generate LOD is a must

[autumn ridge]

oh i would not say unity is better that's for sure

unreal just has a lot of compromises I find and seems to need a lot of work to undo the dodgy things they do with their engine

I've been working to develop a new game in it, and find that I need to compromise all the time. doesn't help that i'm the only dev that knows C++ and the others have been using only blueprints

[shrewd coral]

It's just a price to pay for their innovative features Imo

[shrewd coral]

I mean the are convenient

[autumn ridge]

a lot of their features are just... I dunno, unnecessary and really damage performance more than they should

i know these things will likely improve with time

[shrewd coral]

It's just a matter of taste, someone finds other engines more comfortable to work with, it's fine
UE5 is definetly not perfect, but i like my ue5(

[autumn ridge]

hey if it works for you, that's good!

im just personally fed up of AAA companies using it to make really bad slop products that look like crap and run like crap 😦

[shrewd coral]

Will release actual first game in a couple of weeks
And it is optimised)))

[autumn ridge]

i personally prefer to write my own things from scratch but that's a lot more time consuming

[gloomy stone]

ping me anytime for testing

[autumn ridge]

yeah ill test it again too

[shrewd coral]

That's why engines exist)

[autumn ridge]

of course, but it's fun writing it all imo

[shrewd coral]

np

[autumn ridge]

i like writing graphics/engine code

[gloomy stone]

i got some quality trash to run it on: rx 6800, rx 5700xt, gtx 1060, and a snapdragon 8cx gen 2 laptop if you really hate yourself

[shrewd coral]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

Not THAT optimised)

[gloomy stone]

oh yeah and a geforce 320m

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316260561306255360/1333650467602829323/IMG_1354.jpg?ex=679ef049&is=679d9ec9&hm=e1744211dabe304046851100d82f43c83213f276d7075db222874f52fb6c085d&

[autumn ridge]

i can try on an ARC A770 i guess

[gloomy stone]

speed is number 0 priority

[shrewd coral]

that's actualy less computing power than my vape...

[gloomy stone]

might be lol

[grand bay]

UHD630...

[autumn ridge]

software rendering

[copper crypt]

I ran miside on pentium n3710 crisp 15 fps

[autumn ridge]

i did get a new N150 i wonder how well it would run on that

[gloomy stone]

oh yeah i got a geforce4 mx 440 we can test there /s

nevermind that it tops out at incomplete directx 8

[shrewd coral]

MiSide is actually impressively optimised, as a person who digged almost all of it's assets i can say that Umeerai is basicaly a god of low poly modeling

[autumn ridge]

is worth doing well

[gloomy stone]

helps ofc that they reuse a ton of assets

[hybrid sage]

liking it so far, one thing i noticed pretty quick was how foggy? it feels it's kinda hard to describe lol, that and the shadows are kinda blotchy, almost like it's shadows from leaves the way the shadows on the walls look.

[gloomy stone]

the magic of TAA

[shrewd coral]

In the first location it's supposed to be that way

[hybrid sage]

right here for example

[autumn ridge]

my hatred for TAA is unending

[shrewd coral]

bruh what
I've never seen lumen glitches like that

[hybrid sage]

yeah lol, it moves with my camera too, rather wonky. is there debug or aything i can tweak?

[shrewd coral]

nah, i didn't thought of that

restarting helps?

[hybrid sage]

i can check

[shrewd coral]

Please

[gloomy stone]

the bathroom also looked a bit funky to me but i'll check again

[shrewd coral]

Already fixed lighting there

[hybrid sage]

oh there's music now, didnt have music the first time either

[shrewd coral]

I have a trello board for the build, i can add you if you want, you can make your bugreports and leave ideas there

[hybrid sage]

sure!

[shrewd coral]

It's mostly russian but i don't mind if you write in english, also you can check status of the build

[gloomy stone]

i'm game to be added too

if i remember my password lol

[hybrid sage]

still working my way back to the loop, I'm still seeing some wonky shadows but nothing as egregious as the screenshot i sent.

[shrewd coral]

good god

[gloomy stone]

yeah seems that wall of the loop has some bad shimmering effects

[shrewd coral]

Most of it are fixed, its one-sided texture issue causing light-leaks

[gloomy stone]

ah

[shrewd coral]

also lumen don't like low light scenes

[hybrid sage]

the walls are mostly ok in anyhting other than low light, so that's prob my issue. the walls still look like the screenshot i sent, there's also a few spots that make the game flash white when you walk by them.

[shrewd coral]

I will check

Well, i really need to sleep rn

https://tenor.com/view/bye-chat-discord-gn-goodnight-gif-22585265

[hybrid sage]

sleep well! thanks for the cool build, i'm def gonna keep my eyes on it.

[shrewd coral]

Feel free to write your ideas on the board

[autumn ridge]

seeya bud! thanks for all your work 🙏

[icy gazelle]

we need a Therapist Mita so that she can make Crazy Mita chill

[autumn ridge]

oh i remember us actually discussing this a few weeks back about the possibility of there being a therapist mita somewhere in the mitaverse

[gloomy stone]

virtual therapy lmao

[autumn ridge]

yep, therapy as a (virtual, AI powered) service

she can fix you

(apparently)

[gloomy stone]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-45-djt-trump-face-lie-gif-19326854

[autumn ridge]

perhaps crazy mita is your therapist

[gloomy stone]

if your therapist wants to end you as much as you want to end yourself there may be a problem

[autumn ridge]

perhaps some mass murder is all u need

[gloomy stone]

i've gone through undertale and undertale yellow genocides too many times to count

and deltatraveler, no virtual world is free of my genocides

[autumn ridge]

i tell you, miside genocide route where you just kill every single living thing that moves other than CM for the ultimate messed up ending

[gloomy stone]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-yellow-clover-asgore-meme-gun-gif-4954005038531268693

just delete the entire game from within the core, easy

[autumn ridge]

actually this could be like enormously messed up. imagine if you can even get CM to go "wow wtf you're even more deranged than me" if you kill TM until she just can't regenerate at all

ok no this is probably too much 😭

[gloomy stone]

real "it's in a game so it doesn't matter" energy

[autumn ridge]

that kind of meta stuff hits me the hardest though

i love it when game characters call me horrible for being horrible because "it's just a game and I want to see what happens"

[gloomy stone]

finally i can be a god awful human being without repercussions

[autumn ridge]

except for your own internal feelings tearing you apart

[gloomy stone]

lucky that i'm empty inside then

[autumn ridge]

[rain coral]

https://tenor.com/view/miside-kind-mita-kind-pat-kind-mita-miside-kind-mita-gif-6306618739397581835

[autumn ridge]

excellent gif

[gloomy stone]

man i gotta turn that into a sticker

[rugged peak]

Collective consciousness

[copper crypt]

The unenlightened masses

[rugged peak]

They cannot make the judgment call...

[copper crypt]

Give up free will forever

[rugged peak]

their voices won’t be heard at all

[gloomy stone]

what

[copper crypt]

Display obedience

[rugged peak]

While never stepping out of line

[long quiver]

Giggity giggity

[copper crypt]

And blindly swear allegiance

[rugged peak]

Let your country control your mind

[long quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/quagmire-laugh-gif-2984739617298811929

[copper crypt]

Live in ignorance

[rugged peak]

And purchase your happiness

[copper crypt]

When blood and sweat is the real cost

[rugged peak]

Thinking ceases, the truth is lost

[copper crypt]

Don't you worry

[rugged peak]

You’ll be told exactly what to do

[copper crypt]

I give my people the lives they need