Technical blocks

[charred pasture]

as soon as you add in a registry entry

not when the registry freezes

so i don't think that's possible

[dire blade]

hmm

this is where the exclusion list would be handy

[charred pasture]

that would be a big exclusion list

it would be for every single

block bop has

[dire blade]

hmm

then why

doesn't it crash

[charred pasture]

maybe for you

illicit blocks slows down

[dire blade]

for me everything generates and loads just fine

[charred pasture]

and bop manages to register block items

before illicit blocks can finish checking whether to add a block item

for a block

[dire blade]

maybe compilation or something?

[charred pasture]

it happen on run time

maybe you can

get it to happen

with more mods

installed

i don't think a lot of mods

expect their

identifier to be already taken

messing with other mod's namespaces

[dire blade]

oh

nevermind

terrestria crashed

it just failed to get info for render extensions apparently

[charred pasture]

erm

[dire blade]

https://mclo.gs/m6xC6ub

only with illicititems does it do this

[charred pasture]

right here

Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Adding duplicate key 'ResourceKey[minecraft:item / terrestria:redwood_log]' to registry
at knot

[dire blade]

oh boy

[charred pasture]

imagine having to make an exclusion list

for every single mod

that adds blocks

and all the blocks in the mod

[dire blade]

not all of them

just individual ones

[charred pasture]

it would be for all the blocks

that don't have yet a block item form

which the other mod (not illicit) is trying to add

but illicit intercepted it before that

[dire blade]

just make illicit not generate anything that's excluded

then no crash

[charred pasture]

i dont know if

like

you are going to have

to make your own exclusion list

that's gonna be like over hundreds of lines

especially in a mod pack

but a problem is

a block that illicitblocks is supposed to add in a block item for

it looks the same as a regular block

you just have to keep on excluding

see if it crashes or not (if the mod eventually registers a block item for it )

if you want i could probably

do something more invasive:

using a mixing to hook into minecraft registration code

and see if it already exists, if it is then stop continuing

because illicit blocks handled those

instead

this could break mod compatibility

[dire blade]

hmm

could that be a config option

[charred pasture]

the easiest way again is just adding in _illicit to the end of the items

[charred pasture]

maybe

[dire blade]

to duplicates?

_illicit would break world upgrades and stuff

from like 1.7 to 1.21

I feel like with this

_illicit for duplicates only

or an exclusion list

[charred pasture]

it would not place

a custom block

with _illicit

theres no block

biomesoplenty:white_sand_illicit

it will only make an item called

biomesoplenty:white_sand_illicit

but the actual block in game is still

biomesoplenty:white_sand

so it will survive world updates

[dire blade]

but I mean in chests and stuff

let's just say you have a lit redstone lamp

[charred pasture]

you mean block items in chests

theres no actual block items being registered

if you have a piston_head block item in the chest

and then you remove the mod

the piston_head block item is gone

because the item doesnt actually exist

in the base game

[dire blade]

but

1.7 -> 1.21.5

[dire blade]

you upgrade

no _illicit and everything is fine

with _illicit gone

[charred pasture]

huh

the item is gone

the block item is gone

but if you were to actually

middle pick the block

or break it

it would still be fine i believe

even without the _illicit

i dont think thats how

it works

minecraft utilizes

something called datafixerupper

[dire blade]

no

this is upgrading a world

[charred pasture]

to upgrade blocks of old format

to new format

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

my mod does not do that

[dire blade]

but 1.7 partially had it

IDs to blocks

[charred pasture]

well thats because it had their own vanilla stuff

[dire blade]

pretty sure the illicit ones would be the same

[dire blade]

yeah but minecraft:water existed

others did too

[charred pasture]

i think as it stands

even without the _illicit

so like

minecraft:moving_piston

its never gonna be saved

if you upgrade minecraft versions

[dire blade]

later I'll test this idea of upgrading

can't at the moment

[charred pasture]

if you want i can make a mod

for 1.7

[dire blade]

no

[charred pasture]

that does something

[dire blade]

just no

forge is awful

[charred pasture]

i forgot

i dont even know how to use forge

[dire blade]

yeah

I think

[charred pasture]

fabric legacy exists

[dire blade]

yeah I know

[charred pasture]

i dont know if the vanilla datafixerupper would work with my mod

because

these block items are not really

considered in the datafixerupper

also

modded dfu is not really a thing

apparently it would be ground breaking

don't think there is a dfu to convert from ID versions of the custom blocks that illicit blocks have

to the string versions

maybe there is

im inexperienced with dfu

[charred pasture]

we would somehow have to map ids to current block items for the mc version upgrade to work

[dire blade]

so for that

leave it for before blockstates

so that would make the roadmap

exclusion list or whatever solution we come up with -> backwards compatibility -> blockstates

[charred pasture]

i'll add in exclusion list

but i'll test without

other mods

the user will have to create the exclusion list

for themselves

even then i dont believe backwards compatibility will exist

[charred pasture]

i pushed an update

put in ignored block identifiers to

[dire blade]

yay

thank you so much

this mod so far has just been a dream come true

[charred pasture]

so like what else should be added

[dire blade]

I think

lang stuff

copying over any missing item lang from blocks

[dire blade]

will test later with terrestria

only terrestria causes a crash

normal powder snow is fine

I think we can test different mods and make a default config

the problem is though that finding mods that potentially add blocks like these could be difficult

I think

this system is perfectly fine

but just needs some documentation for end users

[charred pasture]

the documentation is

whenever mc crash add that block to the exclusion list

maybe i guess

have the lang file

like

somehow make it so

it reuses the same name as the block the block item is copying off of

[dire blade]

yeah

block names -> the item names

[dire blade]

with a decent default config it should be fine

back on my computer

will test the new system

[charred pasture]

done

that was very easy

okay well

some translations are still broken

but thats fine

instead of

            BlockItem blockItem = new BlockStateBlockItem(block, new Item.Settings()
                    .registryKey(RegistryKey.of(RegistryKeys.ITEM, Registries.BLOCK.getId(block)))
            );

all i had to do was

            BlockItem blockItem = new BlockStateBlockItem(block, new Item.Settings()
                    .registryKey(RegistryKey.of(RegistryKeys.ITEM, Registries.BLOCK.getId(block)))
                    .useBlockPrefixedTranslationKey()
            );

the rest someone can add themselves

[dire blade]

yeah

OH

@charred pasture remember my world conversion thing

I put water and lava into a 1.7.10 chest

when upgrading they were preserved

[charred pasture]

Thats crazy

did they get turned into the illicit blocks

i have an idea

i'll just forego the backward compatibility for

other mods

but keep it for minecraft

so for other mods i'll just add in a _illicit

but for minecraft none

maybe add it in

as a default option

[dire blade]

yep

[charred pasture]

nice

[dire blade]

also

what can I use

[charred pasture]

what do you think of this

[dire blade]

to detect the duplicate crash items

[charred pasture]

you can probably

like

[dire blade]

hmm

[charred pasture]

ctrl + f

on your crash log

every time

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

or automate it

with python

launch the game

parse log

relaunch

repeat

[dire blade]

so

is it exists in item reg: true

that is indicative of a crash

[charred pasture]

no

IllegalStateException

[dire blade]

hmm

rendering crashes

like literally nothing shows a proper block in the crash

[charred pasture]

send a crash log

[dire blade]

oh wait

in the actual crash log it tells you

[charred pasture]

yea

[charred pasture]

okay or not

i'll probably make it a

option

default is true

[dire blade]

WHY DOES IT TRUNCATE THE LOG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[charred pasture]

Erm

i can't imagine

launching septillion times

to find one block

to add to the ignore list

gotta automate it

[dire blade]

yeah

how can we

un-truncate logs

[charred pasture]

wdym

like

are you thinking of automating it

[dire blade]

no

but minecraft is truncating the logs

so instead of the full log we get and 9 more...

[charred pasture]

how are you viewing the log

[dire blade]

prismlauncher

opening in a text editor it is still truncated

[charred pasture]

huh i gotta rest

test

[dire blade]

so

we don't have many options

we need some way to automate this though

hmm

cursed idea

what if the mod name starts with a Z

biomes o plenty works and terrestria seems to load last

[charred pasture]

i don't think fabric loads stuff

alphabetically

[charred pasture]

huh

i opened it and it looks fine to me

in the .minecraft/crash-reports

[dire blade]

hmm

no 9 more?

at this point

wait

in the json

why not have ignored namespaces

and include too

so like this

[charred pasture]

huh

okay

then maybe

ignored identifiers

ignored namespace

include identifier (overrides everything else)

[dire blade]

exactly

I have tried excluding terrestria blocks and it seems like there isn't much hope

[charred pasture]

wdym hope

is it just

too much

[dire blade]

yeah

I excluded every wood type

but there's more stuff and I just don't feel like launching the game 50 times

maybe if

[charred pasture]

True

[dire blade]

illicititems were to automatically generate a file containing all unregistered blocks when you're ingame

and just save it somewhere

then that would be nice

autosaving to the exclusion list would be a bit destructive though

[charred pasture]

maybe i can include

a command

/dumpunregisteredblocks

that dumps unregistered blocks

to a txt file

[dire blade]

or maybe

[charred pasture]

or should it like

do it on startup

[dire blade]

not on startup

maybe once everything is frozen

[charred pasture]

idk how would you track that

[dire blade]

let's see

world entry

[charred pasture]

probably a command would be nice

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

that too

world entry

[dire blade]

or a function keybind

[charred pasture]

on world entry

[dire blade]

a function keybind would just work

[charred pasture]

a key bind?

to dump

[dire blade]

yeah

like maybe F4+X

[charred pasture]

maybe uhm

[dire blade]

although F4+I would probably be better

[charred pasture]

i'll have to add in a

config option

so that it doesn't

try adding block items

that crash the game

just puts them in a list

then once you want to actually use it

you turn it off

[dire blade]

oh yeah

so generate nothing

[charred pasture]

have to make it

you know not crash

[dire blade]

then when you enter a world

and run the command

it'll generate a file

then when you start the game again everything will register

[charred pasture]

command or key bind or both

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

probably uh

once you run the keybind

it'll set the add in block items

[dire blade]

so it reads the file

[charred pasture]

option to true

so you don't need to set it manually

[dire blade]

my idea is

set config option to true

start the game

run F4+I or /illicitgen

it generates a file

and when you start the game again it reads the unregistered blocks so it knows what to register on startup

also with F4+I it would be nice to have it be universal

so not restricted to gameplay

making it as easy as waiting for the game to load to the menu and pressing F4+I

[charred pasture]

ok

[dire blade]

this system

would make everything way easier

you lose the dynamic part

but no compromises on namespaces or names

[charred pasture]

so

if there are

is like

if there is a file

called like

illicit_static.json

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

it would dump everything to that file

[dire blade]

in config or something

it is configurable I guess

but you don't want to touch it

[dire blade]

oh

in .minecraft/mods

also a small thing

small thing big difference with this one

loading item models as block models

quite a few would be broken but at least you can differentiate some stuff

[charred pasture]

what's going on

okay so for the static idea

illicitblocks.json

two new config stuff

use_static_list: true/false

static_list:

[dire blade]

yep perfect

if undefined

should static_list be ../mods/illicit_static.json

[charred pasture]

im thinking

it should be

an array of strings

so wait

use_static_list: false

if false then it's dynamic

respects the (ignore identifier, ignore namespace, include identifier)

if true then

it only registers the block items for the block identifiers in static_list

which by default is nothing

[dire blade]

yep

[charred pasture]

so nothing is loaded

[dire blade]

yeah exactly

[charred pasture]

then when you press keybind/run command

static_list gets updated

automatically

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

so you relaunch

[dire blade]

and it reads

and registers accordingly

[charred pasture]

it should also respect the

ignore identifier/namespace

and include identifier

[dire blade]

yeah

yeah

[charred pasture]

so like no matter what include identifier array is loaded

[dire blade]

yeah

this is becoming quite the mod lol

[charred pasture]

but for

the ignore namespace/identifier

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

if the thing is ignored should it still be added to the static_list

or not added

[dire blade]

yeah

but just ignored I guess

[charred pasture]

okay

[dire blade]

well actually

wait

[dire blade]

this is probably better

[charred pasture]

so ignore_identifiers/ignore_namespace

it will check if the block is in any of those

[dire blade]

but if the player excludes something and wants to include it

they will have to regenerate

[dire blade]

yep

[dire blade]

or include the identifier

[charred pasture]

if it is then it's doesnt get added to static list

[dire blade]

yep

[charred pasture]

wdym

[dire blade]

put it in the inclusion list

[charred pasture]

yeah so uh

if it's in the included identifiers

[dire blade]

if a block is excluded they'll either have to regenerate or include

[dire blade]

it overrides it

[charred pasture]

then it gets loaded no matter what

[dire blade]

yeah exactly

[charred pasture]

okay

[charred pasture]

btw i dont think minecraft supports

modifier keys for the normal keybinds you see in controls

f4 + I

ill just make it right bracket for now

[dire blade]

hmm

I'm quite eager to test every change lol

also with the mod

from my ideas with it

you can probably tell that it's more about just

sort of like purity and cross compatibility

cross compatibility is pretty important though so the mod can be used backwards and forwards

essentially making the mod last as long as possible

[charred pasture]

trying to check if the registry is frozen

rn

because having it

be on the main menu

the keybind for it

maybe the registries arent frozen yet

theres no simple isfrozen thing

its also not gonna be configurable in game

[dire blade]

if it is frozen for the keybind

that's fine

it'll just enumerate and filter

[dire blade]

that's fine

I don't think anyone would really need to set a different binding

[charred pasture]

okay i pushed some updates

press right bracket ] to dump

delete your old config file too

https://github.com/cargocats/IllicitBlocks/

i forgot to add something

okay you can test now by compiling

pushed another commit

[dire blade]

yay

where is the list

uhh

so the keybind works

but it generates nothing

[charred pasture]

try pressing it again

the right bracket

]

did you also remember to

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

delete your old config file

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

does it say anything

in the log

[dire blade]

when dumping no errors

but at launch

it ignores literally everything

the config has no static data

[charred pasture]

what does it say

[dire blade]

in config

[charred pasture]

the logs

config too

i have an idea why

[dire blade]

ignoring block because not included in identifiers or whatever for the logs

[charred pasture]

does it say

[dire blade]

and "static_list": [] is in the config ignoring other stuff

nothing is manipulated using the 3 identifier things

[charred pasture]

Ignoring block because not in static and not in included identifiers

[dire blade]

static list is enabled

[dire blade]

exactly

[charred pasture]

disable static list

use_static_list = false

then dump

the mod only dumps

[dire blade]

I can't launch it though due to terrestria

[charred pasture]

wowa

probably should uh

[dire blade]

with the ] thing

what I had an idea for

was after the registry is frozen

just check through it as is used in startup

then write missing block -> item pairs

[charred pasture]

right now what it does is

it adds in the pairs (block item for block)

and adds it to an array

then whenever you press the ]

it saves that array into the config

i don't really check to see if the registry is frozen

i should make it so uh

maybe add in another config option

disable_blockitems

if true then it doesn't register the block items at all

though the logging is still kept

then you can use it

to dump

without crashing

seems very inflexible to me rn

but it'll do

okay done

i pushed another commit

https://github.com/cargocats/IllicitBlocks/

delete old config file

so for your usecase

it would be

{
  "excluded_identifiers": [],
  "excluded_namespaces": [],
  "included_identifiers": [],
  "use_static_list": false,
  "register_block_items": false,
  "static_list": []
}

shouldn't crash and should dump

to static list when you press ]

[dire blade]

ok

it dumps properly this time

oh no

https://mclo.gs/Ej0PmWH

opening the inventory somehow does this

oh no

terrestria duplicates

hmm

I have an idea

before dumping

[charred pasture]

erm

[dire blade]

list all items in non minecraft namespaces that have items

dump

then delete anything in the dump from that list

[charred pasture]

so

in the initial dump list

[dire blade]

it somehow also

with this

it registers nothing new

no water

no moving pistons or potted plants

[charred pasture]

wdym

[dire blade]

like no items are generated from the list

the list exists in the config

[charred pasture]

what's your config

[dire blade]

static list is true

register block items is false

and static list is

[charred pasture]

erm turn on register block items to true

[dire blade]

https://pastebin.com/LR0TurTV

[charred pasture]

if you want it to register block items

[dire blade]

it crashes

[charred pasture]

woaw

it crashes with what

[dire blade]

hmm

[dire blade]

duplicates remember

[charred pasture]

wait what

i believe it's just uh

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

it registers stuff only in static list

[dire blade]

yeah

but still

[charred pasture]

but then the other mod already like

[dire blade]

] gives duplicates

[charred pasture]

registered so duplicate

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

wdym it gives duplicates

[dire blade]

it writes the EXACT same stuff that it would detect in normal mode

[charred pasture]

oh

i think i get what you mean

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

it's bc uh

my mod when it's dynamic loading

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

it tries to do add everything

so like terrestria redwood log

my block tries to add a block items for it with the

same

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

id

then terrestria adds in their own block item

crashes

so then

[dire blade]

yep

[charred pasture]

in the dumping

i should instead

check to see if the item existed

[dire blade]

in-game

[charred pasture]

it should exist now

[dire blade]

see what there is

[charred pasture]

because registry

should be frozen

[dire blade]

yeah exactly

[charred pasture]

so the block items should already

be associated to the blocks

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

when registry is frozen

alright

[dire blade]

and just dump everything that has no name equivalent item

so like

/setblock vs /give

or something

[charred pasture]

wdym

setblock is the block registry

give is the item registry

[dire blade]

yeah

block registry vs item registry

compare the two

[charred pasture]

wdym no name equivalent item

oh

yea

[dire blade]

in game when stuff is frozen

this would be the way to go

[charred pasture]

this all happening with the keypress

pushed a commit

https://github.com/cargocats/IllicitBlocks/

okay wait it didn't go through yet

[dire blade]

yeah the exact same thing happened as earlier

[charred pasture]

my push to github not working

wait a bit

ok i pushed

git pull and retry

[dire blade]

@charred pasture

I see logic

[charred pasture]

wdym i see logic

[dire blade]

and terrestria looks a lot better

[dire blade]

the true and false stuff it spits out in the logs

[charred pasture]

yea

if its true it removes, bc theres already a block item associated

if its false it keeps

[dire blade]

yay it works now

can you make it load block models to items

[charred pasture]

hmm

[dire blade]

so there's at least something instead of purple and black checkered things

[charred pasture]

okay

how do the block models look like

as in like

do they actually have block models

im gonna try messing with it

to see if i can generate something at least recognizable and unique

[dire blade]

well each block has a model

if you point each new items model

you know like

[charred pasture]

hmm

[dire blade]

there's minecraft/blockstates and minecraft/items

[dire blade]

oh no

[dire blade]

they point to models

[charred pasture]

yeah but uh

[dire blade]

if all of them just point to their respective block models

[charred pasture]

wait erm

[dire blade]

then that works

things will be dark and stuff but whatever

[charred pasture]

well at least i know how to set the model identifier now

[dire blade]

look at

an item model

[charred pasture]

right so

[dire blade]

{
"model": {
"type": "minecraft:model",
"model": "minecraft:block/acacia_planks"
}
}

like this

so we have this

[charred pasture]

                BlockItem blockItem = new BlockStateBlockItem(block, new Item.Settings()
                        .registryKey(RegistryKey.of(RegistryKeys.ITEM, Registries.BLOCK.getId(block)))
                        .useBlockPrefixedTranslationKey()
                        .modelId(Identifier.of("minecraft", "water_bucket"))
                );

[dire blade]

and just throw in every block

[charred pasture]

this makes everything have the model of a water bucket

[dire blade]

hmm

[charred pasture]

however there is no item for it

rn

there is no item model for the block

cause like

[dire blade]

hmm

[charred pasture]

let me see

if there exists an actual model

[dire blade]

we need to manipulate the minecraft/items part

and not minecraft/models/item

so pointing blocks to their own models

[charred pasture]

minecraft:piston_head

[charred pasture]

so use that thing instead

im looking under

assets/minecraft/items/

no piston_head in sight

maybe look into

/assets/minecraft/models/block

instead of item

which is for piston_head

{
  "parent": "minecraft:block/template_piston_head",
  "textures": {
    "platform": "minecraft:block/piston_top",
    "side": "minecraft:block/piston_side",
    "unsticky": "minecraft:block/piston_top"
  }
}

[dire blade]

no

creating custom item things

[dire blade]

so taking this

and for each block

making the name the block name .json

and change acacia_planks to the block name

so in (block name).json in (namespace)/items

[charred pasture]

i dont know if thats possible to do

[dire blade]

{
"model": {
"type": "minecraft:model",
"model": "(namespace):block/(block name)"
}
}

[dire blade]

well just use this template for every registered block

throw in the namespaces

throw in the block name

and done

there it is

[charred pasture]

like i dont know if making jsons during runtime would work for model stuff

[dire blade]

at the very worst it would require a resource reload

we could just make it autoload a resource pack it generates

so imagine like

2 layers

base

block based, hardcoded, and autogenerated models

however hardcoded would likely be in base already

[charred pasture]

thinking of using a

ModelLoadingPlugin

https://github.com/FabricMC/fabric/blob/1.21/fabric-model-loading-api-v1/src/testmodClient/java/net/fabricmc/fabric/test/model/loading/ModelTestModClient.java#L68-L70

might restrict it to later fabric api versions

though

[charred pasture]

what do you think

[dire blade]

like how far back could it go

[dire blade]

sure

[charred pasture]

not sure

[charred pasture]

in the worst case i can just make different versions of the mod

[charred pasture]

Erm

lol

[dire blade]

just remember though

[dire blade]

for every block use this

with the model loading stuff we can just use this template and load it in for every new item

[charred pasture]

hmm

[dire blade]

{
"model": {
"type": "minecraft:model",
"model": "namespace:block/illicitblock"
}
}

like this

for each item just copy off of this, search and replace, then load

so for instance

search and replace means like

namespace and illicitblock are replaced with actual things

{
"model": {
"type": "minecraft:model",
"model": "terrestria:block/potted_agave_plant"
}
}

like this

[charred pasture]

trying random things to make it work

nothing is working

[dire blade]

hmm

https://fluorine.sh/images/2025-06-08_11.14.37.png

a pretty cursed screenshot that isn't super obvious

[charred pasture]

this is done manually right

[dire blade]

yeah

I did the rest of the minecraft models

[dire blade]

they kinda like

the benefit to manually making models

is that then we know how autogenerated ones should work

[charred pasture]

ermm

[dire blade]

what the

why is it stone

maybe try this

like

autogenerate a resource pack

then do the find and replace thing for every block and put everything generated into the pack under assets/namespace/items

[dire blade]

so what I mean by this

make a folder in resourcepacks

copy over a pack.mcmeta file into the folder

[charred pasture]

well

for now you can i guess use a python script to automatically do that

ill make one

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

i havent had luck doing it

the modelloaderplugin

way

[dire blade]

yeah

[charred pasture]

the python script will

analyze your static_list

[dire blade]

yeah

and just make a resource pack that points everything to its block form

[charred pasture]

hm

this is only gonna work

after you compile the mod

its the built in resource pack

not a generated one at runtime

[charred pasture]

its kind of bad but

well it works for some stuff

the python script

ive already pushed

ill just leave it at that until

someone else knows how to do

ModelLoadingPlugin

https://github.com/cargocats/IllicitBlocks

run ./gen_models.py

and it'll check your static_list

and generate

the models.json

it's not a nice solution but it's there

[dire blade]

YES

THAT'S EXACTLY IT

[dire blade]

yeah

maybe make the mod run it or something on startup

or possibly rewrite in java and integrate it

[charred pasture]

i guess

im not sure if it will work

in a jar

probably only works in dev environment

[dire blade]

so

like it works in .minecraft

[charred pasture]

ill think of

having a built in resource pack maybe

[dire blade]

yeah exactly

because then generation is easier

[dire blade]

so

for the resource pack

right now I can't create it as I'm not at my computer

but not too long from now I can do it

[charred pasture]

it'll be automatically generated i think

you can add your own

which will override it

i believe

[dire blade]

yeah I know

we will need to hardcode bubble columns, end gateways, and end portals

[charred pasture]

how

do you think

it'll work

does it not work rn

[dire blade]

interface with the rendering of those blocks

make the inventory render them and hope it works

with this method if it works then all blocks could have proper and correct models

[charred pasture]

oh you mean

like the item models for them

or the placement

[dire blade]

like

placement

this will probably go horribly wrong

[dire blade]

so like water is 15/16 tall

end portals would have their weird texture

wall signs would be rendered as they would be

stuff like that

[charred pasture]

wdym the water is 15/16 tall

[charred pasture]

uhh huh

let me test

placing those blocks

[dire blade]

cubic water on top is 15/16 of a block tall

[charred pasture]

huh

end gateway seems to be fine i think

end portals work fine

bubble columns work only when theres a soul sand beneath

i think everything works as expected

[dire blade]

what I mean though by this

like rendering the block itself

but inside the inventory

[charred pasture]

so like

you want it to

hardcode specific blocks

the models for them

so it'll look correct

[dire blade]

yeah

like sorta physically rendering them but in the inventory

[dire blade]

also

before trying this thing

in our current system we need to fix certain types of blocks

[charred pasture]

what's happening

[dire blade]

like

the dumping system should probably dump tags too

so we know what models to use

so this would fix crops, liquids, fire, etc.

[woven nest]

I'm not 100% sure this is right, but it looks like the model loading api no longer supports this usecase.

I think I've got a working mixin though

[dire blade]

hmmmmmm

I think if you've been following this

you probably know the idea here

[charred pasture]

🔥

[dire blade]

just trying to make items use block models which we've kinda done

and now it's kinda just more stuff like doing different things for crops and liquids

[charred pasture]

finally can map dynamic json models to minecraft block item models

[dire blade]

hmmmmmmmm

[charred pasture]

🥺

11:17 pm here i am going to sleep

[woven nest]

-1

enjoy your sleep

[woven nest]

https://gist.github.com/cputnam-a11y/5c98947276c2bae7d7a834417aa58d2f going to ask in the morning when pepper is up if the removal of functionality is intentional, and if something like this could be included in fapi

[dire blade]

including something in FAPI would break backwards compatibility

I want the mod to be backwards compatible down to possibly 1.14.4

[woven nest]

first

good luck

second

it wouldn't, as the way to do this was recently removed from fabric api

so you'd just use the old way when in the old version

and the new way in the new version

[dire blade]

hmm

[dire blade]

this stuff is optional

so the core mod functionality could probably go way back

[dire blade]

model generation

also do you know of a way

to render a block in the inventory as if it was rendered in the world

because for most blocks this seems it would work

and then blocks like end portals would work

[woven nest]

that's what this is

aside from ber's

which are special, and different

[woven nest]

not really?

it's going to take a lot of porting

mojang has changed item registration no less than 4 times

[dire blade]

interesting

I have like an idea for the mod

like of course it'll be made for modern versions and be quite interesting

but there's also the part of it spanning across many versions

I feel like this is the type of mod that would last for a pretty long time

I want it to be useful for everyone

personally after venturing into the world of having these blocks it's hard to imagine not having them

oh also the community around making modern minecraft look old would like this

I have not told anyone anything about this because of course it is quite the new mod

this is all I sent them

once the mod gets to a stage where it's quite "presentable"

probably once it goes on modrinth or something

then they'll know

but for now I'm keeping everything pretty quiet as the mod evolves

[dire blade]

me holding block powder snow instead of a bucket

and lava in a bush

but yeah

so it's like at this point blockstates are quite far into the future

now the big hurdle is trying to make item models

[charred pasture]

[charred pasture]

so why didn't addModel work

does it only support adding models

then having to use static json files

for said models

[charred pasture]

so i have some plans right now:

1. Make it use the new way of registering addition item assets (no longer need to use resource packs, on demand changing on launch)

2. I dont believe there is a way of dynamically adding block items to all blocks that are missing block items, because my mod steals the block item identifier before the other mod gets to add their own (if they even add one later). This is fine for Minecraft blocks because they're already finished with their initialization, however fabric launcher doesn't guarantee mod loading order, and I don't think there is a way to wait until all other mods finish their registration because then other mods may use this method causing a race condition. Unless there is way where if I am able to mixin into the registration process and somehow unregister my own block items if another mod adds in their own to prevent this IllegalStateException. I think static_list will have to stay.

3. Then for BlockStates, I have an idea. I should be able to add in "variants" of existing block items by setting a component containing the BlockState, from which my own implementation of BlockItem can use when placed. I think it should be

ItemGroupEvents.modifyEntriesEvent(ILLICIT_GROUP).register(entries -> {
    // loop over the intended blockItem's block states
    // create a unique item stack for each blockstate, by adding a component onto that item stack

    entries.add(customStack); // Add it to the tab
});

4. Then comes the issue with differentiating the variants of the BlockItem from each other; how should it be done? I believe the easiest way is for a tooltip that dynamically changes based on the BlockState of that ItemStack. So then it should look like

                      |‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾‾|
                      | Item Name                      |
                      | short = false                   |
                      | type = sticky                   |
                      | minecraft:piston_head|
                      | Data: 11 component(s)  |
                      |____________________|
|‾ ‾ ‾ ‾ ‾ ‾ ‾|
| Item Icon |
|_________|

[charred pasture]

5. Then use something like this https://modrinth.com/mod/condensed-creative to condense all the block items into a slot in the item group. However this is not updated for 1.21.5, and so I will need to port it manually

If I wanted different item models for each block state, I don't know if this is possible using this #1380192601516408984 message (I have not tried)

Or if there is another way to do so, so that is why I recommended doing the tooltip way

https://wiki.fabricmc.net/tutorial:model_predicate_providers

Well, it looks like it's baked into the item model definition now

I think we should hardcode certain item models to make it easier, but if it isn't possible then fall back to the dynamic item model generation

[charred pasture]

This might impose backwards compatibility restrictions if I have to create my own Component because I dont know if Minecraft already has a BlockState component

[woven nest]

addModel is designed for mods like flywheel, from what I understood

It's meant to create a freestanding model not bound to anything that can be rendered in the world more efficiently

[charred pasture]

okay

[woven nest]

Still planning to ask pepper when they're online.

[charred pasture]

yes

so it's basically

creating your own model type

[woven nest]

Yeah, I guess that describes it well

[dire blade]

yeah

do you think

that the mod should dump the first time you press a button every launch

so then it can have a list of items it can use every time except first launch

[woven nest]

I'm sure you'll also notice, I added a way to tell what models are already provided, so you can probably just make it so a resource pack can override any of them

[dire blade]

ooo