#[OLD] AGOT Nobility of Westeros

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quaint stratus
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Greetings, my lords!

AGOT Nobility of Westeros is a small immersion submod for CK3 AGOT, that changes Westerosi noble titles and ranks so they match the lore more closely.

CHANGES:

  • Knightly Houses: barons and counts are addressed as "Ser" instead of "Lord".
  • Masterly Houses: barons and counts of the Old Gods are addressed as "Master," reflecting the cultural distinction of Northern non-knightly nobility.
  • The Iron Islands: barons and counts are now addressed as "Captain" rather than "Lord."
  • Dynamic Faith Checks: The "Ser" title is dynamically gated and only appears for characters with the Knight trait.
  • Dynamic Special Contract Checks: Lordship rights can be acquired with castellan and palatinate special contracts.
  • The Night’s Watch: The kingdom and empire-level titles previously called "The Wall" have been renamed to "The Night’s Watch" for better immersion.
  • Easier requirements for "Buy Knighthood" decision, so that landed knights become more common.

DECISIONS:

  • Custom Lordship: create and expand your own lordship inside the Seven Kingdoms.
  • Adopt personal COA as Title COA.

GAME-RULES:

  • Flavour Game Rules: Don´t like some of these changes? No worries, this submod allows for some customization with game-rules!

WORK IN PROGRESS:

  • Map rebalancing.
  • Vale Mountain Clans mechanics.
  • Bracken-Blackwood struggle.

STEAM WORKSHOP LINK:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3664900993

Steam Workshop::AGOT Nobility of Westeros
inland lotus
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My g

hidden cloud
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Not sure if this has something to do with my presets but loaded up the game to find Viserys title as Viserys_Male_ etc

quaint stratus
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@hidden cloud I need to check, which Viserys?

hidden cloud
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It’s King Viserys so Fire & Blood

quaint stratus
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All good here, AGOT NOW only changes barony, county and duchy titles. You might be using an outdated submod, maybe Red Keep withou the fix?

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hidden cloud
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Yeah that would most likely be it, thanks magic man

lime kiln
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Hey bud the last update did a lot changes to titles and localization so this will need an update I believe.

lime kiln
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and ya count title rulers are back to being lords as well instead of Ser as a heads up

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quaint stratus
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@lime kiln I work on weekends, but I will try to update tomorrow. Sorry in advance for the incovenience!

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It should just be a matter of localization priority (simple fix)

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I cannot check the game right now, does the barons mantain the "Ser" title?

crystal pecan
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its ok mate , thanks for your hard work

lime kiln
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knights seem good though

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but if they get landed, I assume it will turn it to Lord though

quaint stratus
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Ok guys, I just checked the problem, it is an easy fix

lime kiln
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Awesome to hear

quaint stratus
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Updated! Now working with the latest AGOT build

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basically every baron, count, duke and king title tier now have the adress title loc "lord_non_paramount" in the main mod. Before only "kings" like the Hightowers or some "Emperors" like the lannisters had it.

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I just hijacked the "lord_non_paramount" loc to run this submod custom_loc

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If you find any inconsistency pls report it 🙂

lime kiln
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Thanks !

quaint stratus
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Default loc had to be hot fixed.

lime kiln
# quaint stratus Default loc had to be hot fixed.

hmm... is that what this issue is here? I didn't start a new save when the hotfix was applied so maybe it has to be a new game for it to be fixed truly, but just in case, I noticed the tooltip still says "lord" but the in game stuff says the proper title on the left here

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another example

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quaint stratus
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@lime kiln no, some women (usually grandmothers of lords) were called Duchess instead of Lady because they got the default title.

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But I became aware of this tooltip mismatch, I just didn't have time to fix it

lime kiln
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Ahh ok cool

quaint stratus
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tooltip mismatch has been fixed! 🙂

quaint stratus
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WORK IN PROGRESS - THE NORTH

Reworked de jure map from baronies to kingdoms. Tried to match frontiers with terrain and natural borders (mountains, rivers,...)
Houses Bolton, Umber, Karstark, Glover and Dustin promoted to kingdom-tier.
Some Minor Houses - Stout, Forrester, Whitehill, Moss, Ironsmith, Woolfield, Marsh, Overton, Lightfoot, canon Northern clans and canon Skagosi clans - promoted to duchy-tier.
House Reed demoted to duchy-tier.
Houses Tallhart and Fisher demoted to county-tier.
(subject to change)

lime kiln
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Awesome!

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I assume something like this will break my current save?

quaint stratus
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yes it will, but this is future work. I will only launch it when all kingdoms are reworked.

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And I will still share a lighter version of this submod, without the rework

lime kiln
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Sounds good looking forward to it!

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The hegemony update did some interesting stuff since you can have a king tier within the iron throne and all. Which is cool cause then it means they can use a royal court.

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I know theirs mods that add royal courts to duchy titles but I always never liked them because I just feel it wouldn’t work right with the AI and all

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lime kiln
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Ya true

quaint stratus
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Updated! Expanded the code logic to king and emperor-tier titles. Some title tootilp mismatches and some spouse titles have been fixed.

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Some princesses (see Daenarys Targaryen, daughter of Aegon IV), married to lords were downgrading to "Lady" (this happens in AGOT main mod). This is fixed and they now stay as Princesses!

stone birch
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this mod singlehandedly stopped me from eating my chinchilla

idle frigate
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no non-steam download options?

quaint stratus
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@idle frigate not for now

fallen patio
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really like the idea of reworking titles and borders, cant wait to see other kingdoms reworked

quaint stratus
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Updated! The title localization method is now the same as the main mod. Dead characters titles fixed. Added King Consort title.

idle frigate
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Could you just send the files for the submod? I want to use it, looks very delicious.

sand oracle
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Hiii, could you please restore the backgrounds for Ironrath of House Forrester and Whitehill of House Whitehill?

stone birch
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sand oracle
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Wich one then?

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sand oracle
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please just ignore my message, i just realized the background i was talking about actually comes from AGOT+

formal terrace
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in 00_agot_title_triggers, is line 151 meant to reference "title:c_king_s_landing" or is that a typo? i kept crashing on the same dates but once i changed it over to " title:c_kings_landing", it seemed to have stopped 🤔

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quaint stratus
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yes, it´s a typo, i am gonna fix it now, sorry!

quaint stratus
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Updated, crashed should be fixed now (hopefuly)

sand oracle
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@quaint stratus hey brother, thanks a lot for your help, you have no idea the headache i had.

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since you said you were working on a de jure titles rework, would you like me to send you what i’ve done so you can include it in your mod?

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these are the riverlands with 6 new titles, created to adjust de jure borders at the kingdom-tier level

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let me know what you think and we could coordinate something, i also have some more changes, i created the principality of summerhall with the dragonstone return mechanic plus a dummy, same with the prince of darkwater title for daemon blackfyre

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quaint stratus
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@sand oracle hey, thank you 🙂 I just finished reworking the Iron Islands and the Riverlands, I just need to update history files. I also promoted the Freys to king-level and relocate House Charlton to the new duchy of Ironwater (as you did). Next will be the Westerlands and the Reach!

sand oracle
lone plaza
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Great work guys!!
Are the new changes compatible with saved games?

quaint stratus
sand oracle
sand oracle
# lone plaza Great work guys!! Are the new changes compatible with saved games?

short answer: as a general rule, a mod that changes titles and their history this much isn’t compatible with a savegame. it probably won’t crash, but it simply won’t load.

long answer: you need to open your save file with 7zip and extract the gamestate, then delete the gamestate from the zip. once extracted, open it with your preferred text editor. now go to the mod and find the keys in the files that modify the titles, copy them and paste them into your gamestate after all the existing title entries, which start with a number, for example:

8657 = {
key=c_constantinple
blablabla={
}
blablblablabla={
}
blablblablalbaabla={
}

8658 = {
key=c_nicaea
blablabla={
}
blablblablabla={
}
blablblablalbaabla={
}

if you look closely, you’ll see the numbers are sequential. you’ll need to create the corresponding entry without breaking this system for each title the mod adds. you’ll also need to find the ones the mod overwrites and replace them with their corresponding versions, and then match the title history of the title with the one that overwrites it, including rulers after the mod’s start dates, meaning the ones that have progressed in your playthrough.

once that’s done, save the gamestate and add it back into the same zip you took it from, and if you prayed hard enough during the whole process and the game doesn’t corrupt, you will have successfully added a mod to your savegame.

lone plaza
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quaint stratus
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Updated! Patched a few errors and added a game-rule to remove the new health traits on character death.

sullen vector
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Hello where can i find the 1.18.4 version of this mod

quaint stratus
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You don't, but I will see what I can do for you

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formal terrace
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its the patched version so no crashes or issues with it

sullen vector
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and do you also know where i can find 1.18.4 versions of these mods,

  1. AGOT Submod Core
  2. AGOT+
  3. Agot - Armies of Westeros
  4. Agot - nobility of Westeros
  5. Manor Domicile (Feudal/Clan/Tribal)
  6. Royal Court Event Pack
  7. Quando SUmus - Decisions of CK3
  8. AGOT - MOre Dragon Eggs
  9. [FSF] - Positive Giant Trait
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sand oracle
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i know it’s not useful for you right now, but next time use this tool, it’ll save your mods from updating and breaking your run

sullen vector
quaint stratus
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Hello guys! I’m excited to finally announce a beta version of AGOT NOW (version 1.2), with the most recent de jure map rework, by me and @sand oracle. This is an early version, so expect some bugs and balance issues, but it’s fully playable and ready for you to jump in. As always your feedback is incredibly important to us.
You can download the beta version here: https://www.nexusmods.com/crusaderkings3/mods/279?tab=files (not available in the Steam Workshop). It requires a new savegame. Hope you enjoy!

Nexus Mods :: Crusader Kings III
AGOT Nobility of Westeros

Submod for CK3 A Game of Thrones mod.

inland lotus
quaint stratus
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We are still rebalancing some lords and tweaking some areas and I didn't want to release it on Steam at this stage. But you can expect a Steam update in 1-2 weeks!

quaint stratus
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Updated to version 1.2 on Steam Workshop - All the changes of the beta and more! Still working on power scale rebalancing

sand oracle
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This is the changelog

Update 1.2

This update completely reworks the de jure hierarchy across the Nine Kingdoms of Westeros, based on canon and semi-canon ASOIAF sources, with the goal of making Westeros’ feudal structure more lore-accurate.

Major Changes
• All canon lordly houses now have duchy-tier titles
• Lords ruling over other lords now have kingdom-tier titles
• Multiple vassal relationships reworked across Westeros
• 125 new landed titles added
• 153 titles received updated localizations
• Reorganized several de jure structures for better territorial coherence
• Various localization, naming, and hierarchy fixes

Title Expansion
• 15 new county-tier titles
• 87 new duchy-tier titles
• 18 new kingdom-tier titles

fleet forge
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Does the 1.1 version from nexus work still?

quaint stratus
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Yes it does, we also keep it updated, for those of you who just want the adress title changes