#The Unnecessary Dragons

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pearl sundial
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i have found work arounds for now

bronze hollow
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fuck sake

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😭

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don't get why shit is happening for others and not some

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have you been killed in battle yet

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as a dragon rider

pearl sundial
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yes

bronze hollow
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is it too frequent?

pearl sundial
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oh well it was during the "seek out decision" for rivals
I had one actual fight against another dragonrider

bronze hollow
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have you been killed just randomly in battle

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as a dragon rider

pearl sundial
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no but my ai dragon riders have die in battle

bronze hollow
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people were saying they kept getting killed in battle by my death chance for dragon riders

pearl sundial
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i was playing during aegons conquest and visenya died immediatly

bronze hollow
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might bring it down to 2% instead of 5%

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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how often were you fighting

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on dragonback

pearl sundial
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very

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almost constantly i would say

bronze hollow
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maybe its not too bad then

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ill kick it down to 3% anyhow

pearl sundial
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so its a 5% chance for every battle or how does it work ?

bronze hollow
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every 5 years if you are in battle there's a 5% chance for you to get merked

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no sorry

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every 2 years

pearl sundial
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i also finally had my first death offering a mount to my son. He was so good and he was the lord commander of the kingsguard

bronze hollow
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darklyn moment

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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omfg

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ur a genius

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is that the kingsguard armour?

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mod

pearl sundial
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yes

bronze hollow
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fuck with barbershop you can change it and just use it as targ armour

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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never thought of that

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always wanted more as I love the barbershop

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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ah tbf tis a book thing as well

pearl sundial
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i dont remember it in the book, but i only read it once

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i thought he died at the very end

bronze hollow
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nah he died during the dragonseeds try not to die contest

pearl sundial
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might not like this but i have changed my dragons life expectancy to 10000 years aithnea

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they dont die of old age in my mind

pearl sundial
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yup lol

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also dont know if this is supposed to be this high?

bronze hollow
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one of the reasons I made this mod was because I liked Dragons of Valyria but it didn't have enough features for me, and I couldn't stand the fact that the other dragon mod had fuckin ghidorah as a dragon despair

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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yeah thats not meant to be that high

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wait

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did you claim multiple shits of his?

pearl sundial
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no he claimed my stuff

bronze hollow
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I think he was claiming everything

pearl sundial
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ah ok

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i havent used claim by dragon decision yet

bronze hollow
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its a character interaction

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can be used on kingdom titles and above

pearl sundial
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sorry to bug but i was wondering why dragon rider gets negative opinion for having a dragon, i mean vassals have negative opinion of dragon riders

bronze hollow
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largely people will fear you at least a little bit imo

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they'll low key chafe at the fact that their liege could yeet them quite easily

pearl sundial
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yeah, true lol

bronze hollow
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doing a rhaegar game rn, found a submod for him, lyanna and ser arthur surviving the rebellion

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fled to pentos and got a manse there

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got the three dragon eggs, gave one to jon and daenerys

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crossed the narrow sea and defeated the doomstack by taking robert in a 1v1

pearl sundial
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oh nice, kill all the Baratheons

bronze hollow
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Rhaegar the Ruby Dragon and he got the ruby in his right eye (headcanon is it is from the ruby ford)

pearl sundial
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in my current game of aegons conquest both visenya and orys died almost instantly in wars 🥲 no baratheons in my game

bronze hollow
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thats the based timeline

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no maegor and no roberts rebellion

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better visenya dies than rhaenys, tho aegon gets clapped by dornish assassins

pearl sundial
# bronze hollow no maegor and no roberts rebellion

visenya gave me a son before she died, he was gonna be maegor if he didnt just die to a seizure. He had darksister, vhagar already tried to kill his older brother for the throne and plotted to kill him.

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he died at 41 years old but he was a menace in his life

rocky bison
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some one can explai to me how i can use my dragon on battle ??

bronze hollow
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you have a character modifier representing it

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when the dragon is at least 25 years old, it can then melt walls

tepid heron
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@bronze hollow thanks for the new update, I don’t know what I’d do without this mod waiting for the dragons update.

bronze hollow
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No worries

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currently trying to see what I can do in regards to other things, but potentially another update today

rocky bison
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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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i love it

spiral knot
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Does anyone know how to work this mod??

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I can’t seem to find how to

ornate lark
spiral knot
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Idk if I put the wrong load order in or smtn

ornate lark
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Post your playset

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I've got Valyrian Steel way above TUD

bronze hollow
spiral knot
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Nope

spiral knot
bronze hollow
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you sure steam installed it correctly?

spiral knot
bronze hollow
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in what way is it not working

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if you start as Aegon V, is there a major decision for Valyrian Hatching Ritual?

spiral knot
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No

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I have to try tht

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Didn’t see any tutorials for the game at all

bronze hollow
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The description on the steam page tells you what you can do

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lists what decisions you can take and character interactions

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I might throw up a guide at some point

bronze hollow
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Writing the code to make sure your dragon is in the battle even if your a knight in one of the many armies in the battle

bronze hollow
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Updating the dragon duel system

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gonna have better calculated odds

cerulean zealot
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How can you play as Aegon the conqueror? I only see 3 bookmarks?

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People talk about Aegon, Visenya and Vhagar?

bronze hollow
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You need to get a submod

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But it won't be as well detailed as the main bookmarks

cerulean zealot
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How does it work with this mod? You still have to search for the dragons and hatch them?

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Or is it possible to somehow spawn them in?

bronze hollow
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There is commands in the description on steam

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This mod is for the main AGOT bookmarks, so the dragons are all dead, you need to get eggs naturally in game and attempt to hatch them with the major decision that is a Valyrian hatching ritual

bronze hollow
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Been flat out bug fixing all morning

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Hopefully will be done this update by tonight

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Added more functionality to sieges

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Potential for you to absolutely yeet sieges with old dragons, burning walls will now scale with age

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New calculations for the dragon system so you will have better dances

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I will likely be implementing the use of dragon blood ascendancy, so if you use that mod and make your dynasty Valyrian, your entire dynasty will then be able to get dragons

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Not necessary however, but I will recommend in the description as it's a neat mod

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Will also try and make a pdf guide to explain the mod better

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Some other fixes as well, have messed around with modifiers, will be save compatible

spiral knot
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Dont know if i did it wrong or not

bronze hollow
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I'd put it last just incase

spiral knot
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I seen the desicon

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To hatch the eggs

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but

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I didnt see the option to ask for an unclaimed dragon

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and such

bronze hollow
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Dragons have to be hatched and their rider must die

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For there to be an unclaimed dragon

spiral knot
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So this mod dosent have like unclaimed dragons such as seasmoke

bronze hollow
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I'm saying no dragons probably exist in your game

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The dragons have to actually be born, they don't randomly exist

spiral knot
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So if play a book mark in the dance of dragons era

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I could claim em

bronze hollow
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No

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that's a submod

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You could spawn the dragons yourself with debug

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but I didn't make the mod for submod bookmarks, just those in the base mod

spiral knot
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Mmm okay

nimble moon
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why is that I've visited my dragon's lair 5 times now and didn't get an egg or dragon

bronze hollow
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do you have valyrian steel

proven kraken
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how to get bigger dragons?

nimble moon
bronze hollow
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they grow on their own

nimble moon
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yes

bronze hollow
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you're just very unlucky then

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its possible

nimble moon
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does valyrian steel mod influence in anything?

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i got this

bronze hollow
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yeah

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you can hatch that

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epic

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😎

nimble moon
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well

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everytime I do it I die

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and all of my dinasty dies too

bronze hollow
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you're using the wrong decision

nimble moon
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of wildfire

bronze hollow
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is there a major decision

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called attempt valyrian hatching ritual

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or something to that effect

nimble moon
nimble moon
bronze hollow
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no

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are you high valyrian?

nimble moon
nimble moon
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I diverged my culture from high valyrian

bronze hollow
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wait you already have a dragon yeah?

nimble moon
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yes

bronze hollow
nimble moon
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I "spawned" one

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I need to be high valyrian?

bronze hollow
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you can't hatch a dragon yourself if you already have one

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give it away to a family member

nimble moon
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oh

bronze hollow
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either cradling it with an infant in your family

nimble moon
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whats the option?

bronze hollow
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does your dynasty have the blood of old valyria modifier?

nimble moon
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gift artifact?

bronze hollow
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there should be a character interaction

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otherwise gift artifact to an adult

bronze hollow
# nimble moon ye

my update today will make it so your dynasty will always have access

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for now its high valyrians, kids of high valyrians and grand children of high valyrians

nimble moon
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can I gift artifact for an infant?

bronze hollow
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how old ar ethey

nimble moon
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5

bronze hollow
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too old to cradle

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so you can gift artifact but they mighnt hatch it

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new update today will increase rate of hatching eggs

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found a better way to make ai do it

nimble moon
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1 year is enough to hatch?

bronze hollow
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wym

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1yo kid?

nimble moon
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ye

bronze hollow
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right click on the kid

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look for the diplomatic interaction cradle egg

nimble moon
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there's no action for that

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do I have the right egg?

bronze hollow
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how far removed from high valyrian is the child

nimble moon
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I have the valyrian steel mod

nimble moon
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i think he was born high valyrian

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and then I diverged culture

bronze hollow
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are any of his ancestors high valyrian

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parents

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or grandparents

nimble moon
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yes

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i'm married to a targ

bronze hollow
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the kid may secretly be a bastard

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if it isn't showing

dense karma
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i download the sub mod where is it ?

nimble moon
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i doubt it..

dense karma
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where is the download of the sub mod ?

bronze hollow
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do you have debug mode on

bronze hollow
nimble moon
bronze hollow
bronze hollow
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just hover over the kid

nimble moon
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its me

dense karma
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ok understood, thanks

bronze hollow
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can you screenshot the kids character screen

nimble moon
bronze hollow
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screenshot the targaryen kings character screen

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his grand daddy

nimble moon
bronze hollow
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hmmm

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ok I think I see the issue

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pause for a moment

nimble moon
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its paused

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whats the issue

bronze hollow
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save

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I am going to drop this update

hexed bridge
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how does hatchling inheritance work? i've had a few kids die and it seems like their dragons just disappear instead of becoming wild

bronze hollow
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it will give your dynasty access

bronze hollow
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like dragons that are hatchlings?

hexed bridge
bronze hollow
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same as any other dragon

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you check every dynasty member?

nimble moon
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are the dragon eggs from valyrian steel mod the ones for this mod?

bronze hollow
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They're the same dragon eggs as the base mod

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Doesn't matter if theyre court artifacts or inventory artifacts

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Gimme ten mins

nimble moon
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aight i'll wait

bronze hollow
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Just gonna run an error check but we should be good to go

bronze hollow
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right

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uploading now

nimble moon
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Nice

bronze hollow
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its uploaded

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boot it up and see if you can do what you want now

nimble moon
bronze hollow
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gimme a min

abstract knot
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Quick question, so i'm playing as the younger brother of Aerys who took over crackclaw point, I started a civil war for my attempt on the throne. When I seek out Aerys because he has a dragon and kill him the war just ends, any work around for this while still killing Aerys?

nimble moon
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if u kill him does it become invalidated war? or not?

abstract knot
nimble moon
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also, how do u see if another person has a dragon?

abstract knot
nimble moon
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u continue the war but dont win it tho

nimble moon
cerulean zealot
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Would be fun if you could race for fun with dragons to improve relations with another dragon rider like Daemon and Laena.

Or intimidate subjects to get through with a decision as Daemon uses Caraxes.

But i can wait for the main mod.

bronze hollow
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gimme a bit

nimble moon
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all good

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just ping me when u drop the zip pls

remote seal
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@bronze hollow GOATed

bronze hollow
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Update is out on steam as well

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Added AI only interaction for them to hopefully hatch dragon eggs easier and expanded the blood of old valyria dynasty modifier functionality

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@nimble moon

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@split mirage any chance you could pin the zip?

cerulean zealot
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I appreciate everything you do Tuned. I want to know if its possible to change age of dragon with debug? I have seen the spawn debug: effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}

bronze hollow
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you can

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but you need to manually adjust the combat score and wait for modifiers to catch up (may take a number of years depending how far you have leaped in age)

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whatever amount of years you are adding to the dragons age, add that exact same amount to the dragon combat score

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on top of what it might already be, 0 etc.

cerulean zealot
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Ohh okay. Thinking of making Balerion, Vhagar and Meraxes.

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I don't mind letting game run some years as i plan the invasion

bronze hollow
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@oblique wadi any chance you could pin this for me ;-;

oblique wadi
cerulean zealot
bronze hollow
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you are given a base combat score on birth of dragon

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then 1 is added every year (so the age is basically added)

cerulean zealot
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okay i understand

dense karma
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it tells me that the mod was not installed correctly or some parts are missing

cerulean zealot
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How would i fit it into this? : effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}

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The age^^

bronze hollow
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or did you download through steam?

dense karma
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with the red triangle

bronze hollow
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you need to do that then edit with debug with explore objects

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search artifacts with the "has_variable = dragon_id"

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will display all dragons

cerulean zealot
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Okay thanks you are the best. Sorry for all the questions

bronze hollow
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No worries, hope you enjoy 🙂

dense karma
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fastduke do I have to go to the command console during the game?

cerulean zealot
subtle quest
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Guts how I can make my dragon older

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Can someone send me the code

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Please

rapid vigil
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@subtle quest do u have debug?

subtle quest
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Because I get 4 generations killed in a battle because there dragons are younger

subtle quest
rapid vigil
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Follow those steps

subtle quest
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Ok

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And then

dense karma
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How should i do ?

rapid vigil
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U can age and change the left span and dmg

subtle quest
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Just like this there is no code?

rapid vigil
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No

subtle quest
cerulean zealot
subtle quest
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I'm gonna give my dragon 100 years

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Thanks bro

rapid vigil
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After all of that u gotta go back and hit that lil update button at the bottom

cerulean zealot
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Now i can make Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar

rapid vigil
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I have retired from the game for a bit

rapid vigil
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Got hooked on college football 25

subtle quest
subtle quest
rapid vigil
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Nah I’m doing dynasty do a team rebuild

dense karma
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to use this mod, I need to disable the dragon of valyrian mod

dense karma
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Ok

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do I start even though there is a red triangle?

rapid vigil
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Wellll I never seen that red triangle before but ya?

dense karma
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Maybe the folder connection is wrong

subtle quest
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I should wait 1 year right.?

rapid vigil
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Yes

dense karma
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the link is this

subtle quest
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It's too hard

rapid vigil
rapid vigil
subtle quest
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All of them are king only one of them managed to live until 40s

rapid vigil
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Damn

cerulean zealot
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How do i kill a Dragon? I keep spawning, but i have to spawn 6 or 7 dragons before its the right colout LoL

dense karma
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once I enter the game I have to use cheats to get dragons right?

subtle quest
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No you can hatch the edds

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The eggs*

cerulean zealot
spiral knot
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Anyone know how to spawn dragons with the debug?

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Trying to but don’t know how to

cerulean zealot
spiral knot
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The properties?

golden topaz
cerulean zealot
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You just paste it right there when you open the menu

spiral knot
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Or the steam on e

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Srry I’m asking so much questions just trying to work this out

bronze hollow
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@oblique wadi if you could pin this as well ;-; last thing

cerulean zealot
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Then when you have started up the game, you open the debug menu and paste it right there where you can write

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There is a writing box above debug menues

spiral knot
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Ohhhh

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Okay I see I see

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Thanks lots

dense karma
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he doesn't give me events for eggs or to become a rider

oblique wadi
nimble moon
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is there any command to spawn an egg?

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in debug mode

bronze hollow
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check pinned pdf

nimble moon
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ty

subtle quest
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Guys I aged my dragon until he became 201 old and then died why?

boreal arch
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So, how do you get the option to "cradle the egg"? I got a kid, she is High Valyrian and Old Gods, I am a dragon Rider but I have no option to cradle the egg?

subtle quest
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Laid?

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Kid?

boreal arch
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Just born ish

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so, 0

subtle quest
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Just right klick on hum you will find the decision

boreal arch
nimble moon
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also do u have an egg?

boreal arch
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Got three

subtle quest
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Do you have the mode?

boreal arch
boreal arch
subtle quest
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The unessarry dragons

boreal arch
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oh, yeh. I am dragon Rider

subtle quest
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Then why?

boreal arch
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hm ?

boreal arch
dense karma
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I don't understand why the dragon doesn't let me select him in the regalia

cerulean zealot
boreal arch
cerulean zealot
subtle quest
cerulean zealot
subtle quest
cerulean zealot
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You scale it the same number as the dragons age?

subtle quest
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I just killed this man

cerulean zealot
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Nice

subtle quest
boreal arch
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Still wondering how I get the decision to "cradle the egg" so my kid gets a dragon

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Question: The Unnecessary Dragon mod, should it be on the bottom of the mod order or near the top?

subtle quest
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Just should be activated

boreal arch
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Maybe I got a conflicting mod somewhere :S

subtle quest
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If you have other dragons mode just cancel it

boreal arch
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Which other one?

subtle quest
boreal arch
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I do not have any

subtle quest
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Ok then restart the game

boreal arch
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I have tried, did not work :/

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and I don't have the decision to do the Ritual either, but I figured that it since i am a dragon Rider with a dragon already

dense karma
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Guys, can you explain to me why you don't let me select the dragon in the regalia?

boreal arch
dense karma
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I'm going mad

boreal arch
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as long as it is in your inventory, it works

dense karma
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Ok thanks

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Do you have to use the command console to hatch the eggs?

boreal arch
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No, valyrian ritual in decisions

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I can't get it up, nor have it show. But that's is how it is done

dense karma
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Ok

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Thank you, I was trying every possible way to understand why it wasn't selecting it for me

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but in this version you can use dragons in battle, right?

boreal arch
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yes

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as far as I have garned

cerulean zealot
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I have a last question. Is it possible to gift a dragon to a family member? I have 3 dragons on same person 😅

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I tried to unequip the other 2 by debug

nimble moon
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but u can sell them in the market

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smh

cerulean zealot
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Not even with Debug?

nimble moon
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you can with the Advanced Cheat Menu

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with debug idk

cerulean zealot
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okay thanks

nimble moon
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let me run a quick search

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for that

nimble moon
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I confirm... you can do it with this

cerulean zealot
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I did that to destroy. But i need to force it to another character. But its good

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Its okay if not possible

nimble moon
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wym force it?

cerulean zealot
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But they wont accept as its useless to them they say. But its okay

nimble moon
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instead of dragons give eggs

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if they're adults and have children under 4yo

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they will eventually give them to their childs and hatch it

cerulean zealot
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Thanks

pearl sundial
nimble moon
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but yesmen doesnt make someone a dragon rider tho

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u cannot make someone a dragon rider just by gifting a dragon

pearl sundial
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i currently am getting modifiers from to seperate dragons

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this guy has the dragon modifiers but not the dragon rider trait?

fluid leaf
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maybe a way to scare rebellious vassals into leaving factions with your dragon?

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luv this submod

thin crane
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why cant i equip my dragon

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pls help

bronze hollow
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You don't equip it

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You're given a character modifier

nimble moon
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does buffs from 2 different dragons stack?

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or its just the modifier

nimble moon
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didn't reach that yet tho

orchid cairn
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does anyone know why i cant cradle a dragon egg with my kid

fluid leaf
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are they older than 4 I think

pearl sundial
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At start of game and it's been another 60 years since then

pearl sundial
pearl sundial
dark gull
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How do you rename dragons?

merry magnet
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you need a mod that lets you rename artifacts

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something like artifact manager

bronze hollow
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you can rename artifacts in vanilla no?

ornate lark
dark gull
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Thanks!

pearl sundial
# dark gull How do you rename dragons?

you can rename dragons of other character if you take the artifacts from them using cheat menu sub mod and then grant the dragons back to them using yesmen in debug

pearl sundial
pearl sundial
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she is claiming to be me, but i ride two dragons

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i am the real one

pearl sundial
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Also not sure if anyone else is having this issue but since the mod was updated my dragons are no longer working in my current save. Do I have to restart @bronze hollow sorry to ping

bronze hollow
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Only just woke up

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Will have a look in a while

bronze hollow
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Do you think

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Did you load the save and it broke?

dense karma
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but the only eggs you can get are the ones you already have at the start of the game or is there an event to get them?

bronze hollow
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trying to figure out the current bugs

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not sure why the claim wars are being invalidated by the defender dying

dense karma
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For me this mod works exclusively in the Aegon V timeline.
Was it done like this, or is it a problem with how I put the mod?

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because I already have a problem with the agot+ mod

bronze hollow
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since they're the only official bookmarks available

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so wouldn't be surprised with issues on other bookmark mods if there are interfering dragon features

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I have made it as compatible as possible

nimble moon
pearl sundial
# bronze hollow Do you think

It was working early today. I saved and quit. Later in the day I got back on and noticed I had two dragon mount modifiers. I did have two dragons in my inventory as well. Again i saved and quit not thinking anything of it and later in the day i got back on the game and noticed that the modifers were no longer giving any bonuses. I hope all that males sense

nimble moon
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Try using debug mode to gift the dragons to someone then taking them back

bronze hollow
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just to even test

nimble moon
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Might reload the buffs

bronze hollow
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if its broken

pearl sundial
pearl sundial
nimble moon
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Check that maybe

pearl sundial
nimble moon
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Oh ok

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Ty

pearl sundial
nimble moon
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Should look like autosave, autosave_1 and autosave_2

pearl sundial
pearl sundial
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Because I have mine set to monthly 🥲

bronze hollow
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Fair

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I am not sure what happened there

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I am not sure how to fix it for you tbh, my apologies

dense karma
bronze hollow
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It does work with different timelines

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I made an error in latest update

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Fixing it atm

dense karma
# bronze hollow It does work with different timelines

The mod works for you in other timelines, besides that of Aegon V.
because it could be that it's my fault if the mod doesn't work correctly, given that even the agot+ mod, even though I activated it, doesn't work for me

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because I saw that some people liked the mod during the Aegon the Conqueror timeline, maybe the problem is my fault because I did something wrong when manually putting the mod

bronze hollow
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I am mid game on a roberts rebellion playthrough

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dragons are fine

nimble moon
cerulean zealot
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I have a question to how the dragons impact battles.

How much of a difference do they give when you fight? You would still need somewhat of a lagrer force of the ones you attack or?

I experienced that when you are outnumbered 2 to 1 that it dosn’t make a big difference. You still lose.

bronze hollow
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depends how old the dragon is

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if the dragon cant supply enough damage output before your army is overrun then you will be forced to flee

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paradox dropped the ball when it comes to our ability to affect combat

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the likes of using dragon in combat decisions from ck2 agot aren't possible

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we can't effect combat in that way anymore

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I have fixed the casus belli issue

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of wars being invalidated

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I will drop the new update in a bit fixing the dragon duel bugs

cerulean zealot
bronze hollow
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the main effect is battle roll

cerulean zealot
bronze hollow
cerulean zealot
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Dragon combat score. Does it influence battles?

bronze hollow
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only dragon duels

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how da fuck is your combat score that high

boreal arch
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I got bypass_req on, debug mode and I still don't get the option for my child to cradle the egg. Anyone have noticed any similar issues?

cerulean zealot
nimble moon
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cause previous version doesnt let you cradle unless u high valyrian and stuff

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your child also needs to be less than 4yo

bronze hollow
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@oblique wadi

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(plz <3)

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New update is out guys, I have fixed the dragon duel bugs and some others, unless someone comes to me with a serious problem with a feature not working, this will be the last update

pearl sundial
nimble moon
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why dont u have a modders tag?

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this might be the best submod so far

nimble moon
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add + things 🙂

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tbh I might try continue to update this mod.. if u give me permission for it

bronze hollow
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If you were going to do that, I would ask that you make a submod for it, like the dragon rider start one

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submod inception

boreal arch
oblique wadi
golden topaz
rapid vigil
rapid vigil
proud cloud
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The battleroll modifier are gone for me since 2.6. I've also tried an different older savegame and starting a new game. Anyone else having that issue?

proper hedge
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for me it works perfect

proud cloud
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That's really weird. I'm not using any other submods and had no issues before yesterday.

nimble moon
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@bronze hollow I found something weird... my son who's High Valyrian doesnt get any dragon eggs, and when I tried to "spawn" one for him he just equipped it and doesnt craddle it with his daughter who's 1yo

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now he has 2 eggs

bronze hollow
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How long has it been?

nimble moon
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5 months I think

bronze hollow
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May take years man, would rather reported if its been 5-10 years, is more worrisome then

bronze hollow
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you defo sure its not working?

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I nerfed it to only have battle roll and not advantage as well

brittle path
steady mauve
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anyone know a possible reason as to why the "claim dragon" decision isn't coming up? my character is westerosi valyrian and his father was the one that hatched the dragon

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Yeah I did this and I got the option to claim the dragon finally. Weird. Wonder which submod (if any) is causing this

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so I can't claim it when my character receives the dragon in his own inventory, but can claim it when it's in another characters inventory

glad tundra
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Does anyone know how to change the age of a dragon using the console?

pearl sundial
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@glad tundra

glad tundra
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Unfortunately, the dragon modifiers have not changed, even small(

pearl sundial
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you have to hit update table afterwards

glad tundra
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Well, yes, I'm just pressing this button

nimble moon
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idk if it updates tho

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at least the modifier

glad tundra
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I wrote a guide, but a bot deleted it :(

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I dug into the mod files and made a guide on how to change the age of a dragon with all the modifiers, etc. As a result, everything changes except the description of the artifact, but this is of little importance.

  • 1). Go to the debug console and click on the "Explore Objects" button;

  • 2). In the menu that appears, in the "Provider" section, select the "Artifacts" section. Then, in the "Search Key" field, enter the name of your dragon (you can see it in the artifact name). Press enter, then select your dragon from the list below;

  • 3). After opening the new menu, go to the "Script Variables" section select the parameter "dragon_age" and enter the age of the dragon (for example 26.00);

  • 4). Next above, select the section "Script Runner" - "Effect" and enter the following commands to make your dragon young, After entering, press the "Run" button:

remove_artifact_modifier = hatchling_dragon_modifier
remove_artifact_modifier = adolescent_dragon_modifier
add_artifact_modifier = young_dragon_modifier

  • 5). Then return to the main menu, select the "Living Characters" section in "Provider". Enter your character's name in the "Search Key" field and press enter.

  • 6). Next, select the section "Script Runner" - "Effect" above and enter the following commands to give modifiers to the character. After entering, click the "Run" button:

remove_character_modifier = hatchling_dragonrider_modifier
remove_character_modifier = adolescent_dragonrider_modifier
add_character_modifier = young_dragonrider_modifier

  • 7). Next, go back to the main menu and click the "Update Table" button at the bottom.
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I think it will be useful to someone

rapid vigil
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@bronze hollow did u just did that because never got that before

orchid cairn
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how do dragons age naturally in this mod?

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like how old is considered adolescant young and adult

rapid vigil
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5 is hatching after right after is hatching it’s another stag but from 6 25 once 25 it’s young adult once 50 it’s adult

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And I think once it hit 100 it would be another stage

orchid cairn
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oh okay ty

nimble moon
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hatchling from 0-5, adolescent from 6 to 25, young from 26 to 50, 51 to 100 is adult, 100 to 150 is matue and then ancient 150 to 200, 200+ is dying stage, still gives higher bonus but your dragon can die at any moment

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if I'm not mistaken

pearl sundial
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change your dragons life expectancy to 10000 yrs like i do

junior geyser
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translate a spanish the mod pls

bronze hollow
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how are people finding the power of dragons with the latest updates

bronze hollow
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@summer kelp

spiral knot
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Does this mod not work with The AGOT Submod pack??

proper abyss
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If you mean the submode core mod, it is compatible, have not noticed any issues

spiral knot
proper abyss
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I'm in game right, lol

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But I'll send one when I take a break

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In principle it should be: agot, agot submode core, all agot specific submods and the other mods at the end

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If you post yours, I can try to help you re-arrange it

proper abyss
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I have a slightly different order, not 100% it matters but my game does run without issues

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Took a break so here is my order:

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(and a lot more mods, sorry)

willow helm
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I have a problem, since yesterday the battle advantage is no more present when i go to battle

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is anyone esle having this problem?

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I tried starting game only with this submod, and I tried disinstalling and reinstalling the whole game and subscribing again to the submod, nothing worked

bronze hollow
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I removed it

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you get just a battle roll now

willow helm
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oh ok, thanks!

steel root
ornate lark
pearl sundial
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It's 20 then goes up to 50 then 100 I think

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It goes all the way to 500

bronze hollow
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That's minimum

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There's a min and max roll modified

bronze hollow
pearl sundial
subtle quest
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Did they released it?

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The dragons mode?

bronze hollow
manic owl
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I keep blowing up with a custom character when I try to hatch the egg

hot patio
tepid heron
# manic owl How can I avoid it?

Are you using the hatch egg option or the Valyrian hatching ritual option? Don’t use the hatch egg option it’s from the VS mod and will always kill you. Use the one that says hatching ritual under major decisions.

manic owl
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ohhh

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xd

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thank you for that

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I assume the hatch egg is from the normal mod?

tepid heron
bronze hollow
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caps

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ck3 combat system has f all ability to be influenced

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so devs are limited on such things

pearl sundial
bronze hollow
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it's actually properly functioning so you can be the knight of an army who's commander isn't even leading the battle

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and you will still be able to influence the battle as the dragon rider

pearl sundial
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Cool

sage ginkgo
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For some reason my dragons aren’t growing up anymore. It’s been like 30 years and it’s still an adolescent. There are only two dragons that managed to grow up before he glitch. It was after my first character died and her kid became my neck character.

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Idk if this is better for submod help but I figured a thread where people who have used the mod is better then it getting lost in a general submod channel

hot patio
bronze hollow
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Change the life expectancy variable

bronze hollow
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And did you use the console at all

sage ginkgo
bronze hollow
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you got any other submods?

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if so send them in

sage ginkgo
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lemme check.

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Submode core, canon children, agot+, AGOT bookmarked, armor of the kings guard, legacy of the dragon, Valyrian steel, crowns of Westeros, A dragonrider start, and dragon blood ancestry.

pearl sundial
sage ginkgo
gloomy flare
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@bronze hollow what do you think about making feeding prisoners to your dragon increase their age/or make them stronger

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^ like if you feed them a lot

worn urchin
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Is there anything special that needs to happen for the “visit my mounts lair” decision to become available? I’ve hatched a dragon, the dragon is more than 5 years old but I can’t equip it and the requirements of the dragon aren’t fulfilled.

thick kayak
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wait can characters get burned by dragon fire in battles ? cause i’ve seen a couple npcs get burned or killed with burned trait after being in a battle with an opposing dragon

hot patio
versed quarry
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How long does it take for a dragon to grow up? Rhaegar needs his scaly friend in battle

pearl sundial
# hot patio how

there are some pictures posted in this channel that explain it

unreal bramble
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Hey, so where should I put the mod in my load order I've been putting it at the bottom because previous dragon mods I used before.I took my hiatus from ck Worked best at the bottom But i've noticed that Bonding with a still living dragon after a character's death Has not been possible for me

lethal ether
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wow i always dream with a mod like this, your work its incredible valerion

bronze hollow
bronze hollow
bronze hollow
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and you can't equip dragons

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you're given an automatic modifier

sage ginkgo
lusty juniper
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how do I use the dragon in warfare?

pearl sundial
pearl sundial
lusty juniper
ornate lark
steady field
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tons of my characters give away their dragons and most people with the dragon rider trait have no artifact

lament stag
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When i start as a Dragon rider in a new campaign all of the Targaryens immediately also have Dragons, is that normal?

bronze hollow
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no

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show me?

lament stag
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Not all, most of them though, like Egg starts out as a dragonrider as well when i start that bookmark?!?!? Non-canon targ children also get them

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My first dragon is still a hatchling as well

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I do have historic uncertain outcomes though, so maybe they didnt burn at Summerhal? But there are like 4 new dragon hatchlings now, like 6 years in the campaign

bronze hollow
lament stag
bronze hollow
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The AI gave him an egg

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cuz his mother a targ

lament stag
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Okay makes sense then

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I thought maybe i fucked the game or something

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Lots of dragons in the world then xD

bronze hollow
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Aegon done it fr timeline

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In my Rhaegar started game in Essos after Rebellion

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I am now Jon Snow (Jaehaerys) on the IT

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and my fuckin sister gave her Tyrell son an egg

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back to inbreeding we go

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this is what I get for trying to form alliances

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Writing an AAR for it, something I like to do with my games for rp n shit, writing it as a maester from the future fire and blood style

dense karma
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How is it possible that the mod only works for me with the Aegon V timeline?

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I tried in the Rhaegar vs. Robert timeline and it didn't work, then I tried in the Aegon the Conqueror timeline and it didn't work.
Could it be that it doesn't work well due to the order of my mods?

clear sluice
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Aegon V starts with eggs because in the Lore, he starts with eggs

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and he burns themm all in summerhall trying to hatch em

dense karma
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if you don't have eggs, shouldn't the ritual event be under the events with the ones you can't activate?
because, for me, the events only appear in the Aegon V timeline

bronze hollow
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I don't know what's going on there as you need a dragon egg in your inventory to see the Valyrian Hatching Ritual major decision

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but I doubt it is something to do with my mod and probably a submod conflict

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How is it not working if I may ask?

dense karma
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the problem is, I don't have the "expedition to Old Valyria" event

bronze hollow
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did you not get the Valyrian Steel submod?

dense karma
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maybe it's because it's part of another mod that I don't have, it should be in the "legacy of the dragon" mod right?

dense karma
bronze hollow
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it has the valyrian expedition decision

dense karma
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I tried to insert the mod again, now it showed me, but it tells me the same thing with another mod

bronze hollow
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Steam didn't download it properly for whatever reason idk

dense karma
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Unfortunately for me in that mod, it gives me a file error

dense karma
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I don't have ck3 on steam

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Isn't it possible that I can get eggs with a cheat?

subtle quest
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Very excited for the devs diary

bronze hollow
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the session I just had on ck3 went crazy

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playing with two of my mates

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in a single session, I died riding my dragon against Myr attempting to form a New Valyria, my friend accidentally killed his entire family with the wrong dragon egg decision and my other friend had his dragon rider rooted out of his keep and completely deposed

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my dragon died as well against myr

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mfw scorpion

worn urchin
dense karma
bronze hollow
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huh?

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all this is possible with my mod lol (scorpion thing was a joke)

dense karma
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Understood

bronze hollow
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There manual download is in the pinned

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if that's what you meant, bit confused by your message lmao

lime lion
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i've been tryna fuckin.... figure out how to use this mod for a solid 3-4 days now and not once, no matter how Targaryen I am, not ONCE have I either started the game with a dragon, or found a dragon egg, or been given a dragon egg, or ANYTHING like that. It's extremely frustrating

empty oriole
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just use the console😭

bronze hollow
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I have written a guide

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It is in the description of the mod so

steady mauve
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does dragon size actually make a difference to the battle roll or is it just descriptive? i was comparing a dragon that had the "hes huge for his age" description to one that has a "slender for their age" and it seemed the same

lime lion
lime lion
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just something that says "hatch egg" and there's like a 50/50 chance of dying by wildfire (even though EVERY SINGLE TIME that I do it, it kills me, so in practice it's a 100% certainty of death)

steady mauve
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yea that "hatch egg" decision isn't part of this mod

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you should be seeing "attempt valyrian hatching ritual" in major decisions if you are of valyrian descent

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if you arent its probably a load order issue

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or an incompatibility issue

lime lion
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unneccessary dragons is the only mod i have related to dragons

lime lion
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like i said, multiple eggs

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like four of them now

steady mauve
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yea you can only have one dragon at a time

steady mauve
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unless you use console commands to spawn dragons in

lime lion
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but i've got five other people in my house that are dragonless

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how can i make THEM hatch em

steady mauve
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give them the egg and they'll hatch it themselves, you cant hatch it for them

lime lion
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oh real shit

steady mauve
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and if they're children

lime lion
steady mauve
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like really young idk 1 - 4 i think

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you can cradle the egg

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with them and it has a higher chance of hatching

lime lion
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HMMMMMMM

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thank ya thank ya

steady mauve
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np

lime lion
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btw do you know what console commands i'd need to spawn a derg?

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i'm tryna dig through the root files and see if i can't discern it but i'm not seein one

steady mauve
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i think i found it in the steam workshop pages comments/description

lime lion
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i shall hunt there then

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kirimvose syt aoha dohaeris

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aight i found this command

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effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}

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someone was kind enough to supply me with this one as well, recently

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effect = { get_random_dragon_egg_artifact = { OWNER = this GIVER = this } }

lime lion
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I'm aware that it could possibly break saves, which is why i don't intend to do it on saves I care about lol

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Also i'm.... REALLY confused as to why I have to wait 25 years to be able to mount and ride my dragon, when that's not canon. Daenerys mounted Drogon when he was 2-3 years old. Morning, who was hatched after the Dance of the Dragons, by age 5 was grown enough to allow Rhaena to ride her. Arrax and Lucerys were both 13 when they went on their first ride, so that's on the HIGH end of the spectrum, which I chalk up to Arrax being kept in the Dragonmont once he grew too big to be kept in the keep at Dragonstone (it's very well known that keeping dragons locked up inside stunts their growth)

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Vermithor, conversely, at age 14, was already considered to be a "large" dragon, and he was hatched the same day at Jaeharys I

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as in, by the time Vermithor was 14, he was 1/5 the size of Balerion

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that's per fire and blood

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so, me, personally, i'm editing the scripts on my personal version of the mod so that the aging requirements for "adolesecent" only take 8 years, because that seems like a good happy medium

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I might drop it down to five

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and i mean, hey, if that breaks it, i can always just re-install the mod

empty oriole
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bruh

lime lion
dense karma
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I meant the dev diary mod, which the guy was talking about

mint raptor
# lime lion what're you bruhing

you still can ride the dragon into battle just melting walls in a siege isnt probably the most realistic thing as a small unexpirenced 5 year old dragon

soft sparrow
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the age modifer is more because a dragon the size of balerion is gonna be way way more devasting than a dragon the size of drogon in like season 4

lime lion
# soft sparrow the age modifer is more because a dragon the size of balerion is gonna be way wa...

This doesn't hold water. Drogon in season 4 was 3 years old and already capable of taking on large groups of people. Drogon in season 8 was 7 years old, and his flames had such force behind them that he was able to collapse SEVERAL of the Red Keep's towers, and blast hundreds of houses, tenements and other structures made of stone to pieces. Yes, Balerion at his prime age, OBVIOUSLY is going to be more devastating than Drogon in his adolesence, which for dragons is MUCH YOUNGER than it is for humans, and it lasts way shorter of a time. One might call it adultescene.

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Mind you that Drogon was, from what I can judge off of a lot of cross referencing, roughly the same size as Meleys, who herself was much older.

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Then again, Meleys was a "castle" dragon. She spent much of her time in either the Dragonmont or Dragonpit, or perhaps a similar lair in High Tide

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Drogon, on the other hand, was only one step away from being a completely wild dragon before Daenerys died

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Unlike Viserion and Rhaegal, Drogon was never locked away in the Dragonvault beneath the Great Pyramid of Mereen

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which, yes, that was yet another purpose-built layer for dragons

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If you want to go with a happy medium, drop the age of being "rideable" to 7 years

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25 years is too long

lime lion
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Drogon was 7 and blasting apart castles

soft sparrow
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I mean in terms in size

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And devestation

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Dany’s dragons grew way faster than normal anyway

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Otherwise Aegon III would be a terror at the Gullet

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Also in this mod, a hatchling dragon still gives combat buffs, so idk ehat you want

bronze hollow
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It only affects dragon duels

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Dragon age affects battle stats outside of dragon duels

bronze hollow
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The damage done to walls scales with age

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An ancient dragon will completely annihilate and potentially kill the court your siegeing

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It's a bit frustrating as everything is explained in the document lol

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Like the commands are there as well

bronze hollow
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Adolescent dragons can be ridden, hatchling can't be

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But even hatchling dragons assist you in battle

lime lion
quaint summit
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Question: Currently playing as House Forrester, one of my sons is married to a Targaryen, and I have 2 or 3 dragon ages via expeditions to Old Valyria. Can I cradle the eggs with my grandchildren or do I as the player need to be a Targaryen to do so.

bronze hollow
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Need to be Valyrian to do so, tis a targaryen cultural tradition

quaint summit
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Ah. Well, 2 of the eggs gives me small health boosts so small victory. Lord Gregor Forrester is 72 and still in "fine" health.

mint raptor
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@bronze hollow is TUD meant to give you a dragon or is just the trait

dense karma
bronze hollow
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how old is your dragon

dense karma
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I don't know, about ten I think.
If you want I'll check and tell you

bronze hollow
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I recommend reading the pdf

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Your dragon has to be old enough to melt the walls of a castle, it is set as 25+ or the Young Dragon agegroup

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you'll only do about -5 in fort level with a young dragon

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older dragons do more damage

dense karma
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but if I use the mod you made with your update, can I use the old save without any problem?

bronze hollow
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wym

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have you used my mod on that save yet?

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and did it already have valyrian steel and agot submod core

dense karma
bronze hollow
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what version of the mod are you playing with

dense karma
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yes, I had all the mods, but on the save there is a red icon that says mods are missing

bronze hollow
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is it my mod that is missing?

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it will tell you if you hover it

dense karma
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with the last one where you said you had solved the problem with dragon duels

bronze hollow
dense karma
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it says mod_ with numbers

bronze hollow
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you're gonna to work out which mod it is that you are missing then

dense karma
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It says it's missing some parts, but I went in and it seems to work.
but in that save he had not yet unlocked the event of being able to use the dragon during sieges

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the mod I'm missing apparently is that of the royal guards' weapons

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It shouldn't cause me any problems right?, because I played a game with Reaghar during Roberth's rebellion, and to kill him I had to reload the game 5 times

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I honestly don't feel like starting over again

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😢😢😢

bronze hollow
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why don't you download the mod again?

dense karma
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that mod conflicted with some other mod, because sometimes it kicked me out of the game when I was on the loading screen. other times it made me freeze the game for a few seconds

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so I launched the game adding the mods every time I entered the game, to understand which mod was causing me to have those problems in game

lime lion
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but then again i did personally adjust the ages

brittle path
lime lion
brittle path
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Adolescen is the one after hatch

lime lion
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Well that doesn't make much sense lmao

brittle path
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And I guess you Still need to be 25

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The dragon

lime lion
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From a grammatical standpoint

brittle path
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So it can have duels and storm castles

lime lion
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Okay so third age group

brittle path
lime lion
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Well with my adjusted age i should see it, idk if maybe I just couldn't find the button lmao

brittle path
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Try changing the age then siege something and see if the button is there

tepid heron
lime lion
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Cool beans

tepid heron
mint raptor
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has the bug with dragons dissapearing after changing their age in debug mode been patched yet?

bronze hollow
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I never heard that reported before

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And I'm not gonna make patches for editing in debug tbh

unreal bramble
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Is there any kind of consul command I can use to have?The dragons aged up sooner I was really hoping to have a dance of dragons with Maelys I Blackfyre and my chrecter but he invades westeros so quickly

dense karma
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you can set your dragon's durability to whatever age you want, like that dragon can live up to 2000 years

mint raptor
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thats fair but i mentioned it earlier#1261346648894865409 message

bronze hollow
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ohhhh

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yeah thats fixed

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that was an issue unrelated to the debug even

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i forgot to remove character modifiers for when dragons die 😭

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I fixed that in the update directly following that message

bronze hollow
mint raptor
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@bronze hollow oh all g i havent played in a few days and i seen the latest ep of hotd and that made me want to do a new run but didnt want to age dragons just for them to go bye bye but sweet as

dense karma
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on downloading the mod on Steam, I saw that there was an event that the character flew with his dragon, when you unlock the event

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does it unlock when the dragon is at least 25 years old?

steady mauve
mossy perch
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Let me just say this is an incredibly epic submod. Great job and so lore friendly as well.

tepid heron
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I have minimal modding knowledge or I would just copy the code from one of the historical artifacts and paste it in your mod. Chances are I would mess everything up. Lol

bronze hollow
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huh

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i have the artifacts set as unique

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so probs

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unless thats an additional variable

lament stag
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Cause i also dont see the option for the ritual

cobalt frigate
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@bronze hollow can I change the age of my dragon when I start

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with commands or smth

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bc I wanna do an RP targ reconquest

lime lion
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Just out of curiosity

lime lion
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First two trips both dudes died

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Third trip they brought back a useless fucking glass candle

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Fourth trip I finally got my egg

lament stag
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Yeah i have an egg, i just dont have the Hatching ritual decision, only the ''hatch egg''

pearl sundial
lime lion
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ah, kirimvose

cobalt frigate
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Or does it update auto with age

pearl sundial
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it updates with age but ive seen 41 combat score on the high side

cobalt frigate
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it's not working

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the age update thingh

pearl sundial
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it takes a few years to take into affect

cobalt frigate
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Oh

pearl sundial
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it pretty much makes them age rapidly every year

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you need to hit update table afterwords

cobalt frigate
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I hit update table like five times 😬

pearl sundial
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it takes a while its not instant

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from my experince it takes like 5-20 years still to fully grow to the age you want, it pretty much just rapidly ages the dragon each year

cobalt frigate
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@bronze hollow

pearl sundial
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if you craddle it with them before they are 4

regal axle
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does anyone know how to spawn a valyrian stell sword?

devout barn
rapid vigil
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@bronze hollow welp my laptop had sadly given up on me

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I won’t be able to play ur mod no more and play ck3 agot it self now

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Welp it was nice when it lasted 🫡

dense karma
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or you can get one, via expedition to Old Valyria

proper abyss
# regal axle does anyone know how to spawn a valyrian stell sword?

effect create_artifact_vs_sword_1_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_2_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_3_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_4_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_5_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }

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I think you need Valyrian Steel mod

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Also, if you want armor:

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effect agot_create_artifact_valyrian_steel_armor_effect = { OWNER = this }

sullen cedar
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quite new too this mod, is there anyway to get family members to hatch eggs?

proper abyss
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If they are 3 years of younger, you can cradle an egg with them

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Right click on them 🙂

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You need to be High Valyrian tho

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It's related to culture custom from what I saw above