#The Unnecessary Dragons
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fuck sake
😭
don't get why shit is happening for others and not some
have you been killed in battle yet
as a dragon rider
yes
is it too frequent?
oh well it was during the "seek out decision" for rivals
I had one actual fight against another dragonrider
no but my ai dragon riders have die in battle
people were saying they kept getting killed in battle by my death chance for dragon riders
i was playing during aegons conquest and visenya died immediatly
might bring it down to 2% instead of 5%
in my 100 year playthrough probably 2-3 dragon riders died in battle
so its a 5% chance for every battle or how does it work ?
every 5 years if you are in battle there's a 5% chance for you to get merked
no sorry
every 2 years
i also finally had my first death offering a mount to my son. He was so good and he was the lord commander of the kingsguard
darklyn moment
yes
thats what ive done before lol
i havent seen the latest episode but got this spoiled already lol
ah tbf tis a book thing as well
i dont remember it in the book, but i only read it once
i thought he died at the very end
nah he died during the dragonseeds try not to die contest
lol
might not like this but i have changed my dragons life expectancy to 10000 years 
they dont die of old age in my mind
one of the reasons I made this mod was because I liked Dragons of Valyria but it didn't have enough features for me, and I couldn't stand the fact that the other dragon mod had fuckin ghidorah as a dragon 
yeah lol, this is a great mod, thank you
no he claimed my stuff
I think he was claiming everything
sorry to bug but i was wondering why dragon rider gets negative opinion for having a dragon, i mean vassals have negative opinion of dragon riders
largely people will fear you at least a little bit imo
they'll low key chafe at the fact that their liege could yeet them quite easily
yeah, true lol
doing a rhaegar game rn, found a submod for him, lyanna and ser arthur surviving the rebellion
fled to pentos and got a manse there
got the three dragon eggs, gave one to jon and daenerys
crossed the narrow sea and defeated the doomstack by taking robert in a 1v1
lost his eye
oh nice, kill all the Baratheons
Rhaegar the Ruby Dragon and he got the ruby in his right eye (headcanon is it is from the ruby ford)
in my current game of aegons conquest both visenya and orys died almost instantly in wars 🥲 no baratheons in my game
imo
thats the based timeline
no maegor and no roberts rebellion
better visenya dies than rhaenys, tho aegon gets clapped by dornish assassins
visenya gave me a son before she died, he was gonna be maegor if he didnt just die to a seizure. He had darksister, vhagar already tried to kill his older brother for the throne and plotted to kill him.
he died at 41 years old but he was a menace in his life
some one can explai to me how i can use my dragon on battle ??
if you are a dragon rider
you have a character modifier representing it
when the dragon is at least 25 years old, it can then melt walls
@bronze hollow thanks for the new update, I don’t know what I’d do without this mod waiting for the dragons update.
No worries
currently trying to see what I can do in regards to other things, but potentially another update today
i get it , man i have a lot of fun
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
i love it
Wdym? Are there no dragons at all for you?
Yeah nothing
Idk if I put the wrong load order in or smtn
Any luck fixing it?
Nope
Alr
you sure steam installed it correctly?
Mhm
in what way is it not working
if you start as Aegon V, is there a major decision for Valyrian Hatching Ritual?
The description on the steam page tells you what you can do
lists what decisions you can take and character interactions
I might throw up a guide at some point
Writing the code to make sure your dragon is in the battle even if your a knight in one of the many armies in the battle
How can you play as Aegon the conqueror? I only see 3 bookmarks?
People talk about Aegon, Visenya and Vhagar?
How does it work with this mod? You still have to search for the dragons and hatch them?
Or is it possible to somehow spawn them in?
There is commands in the description on steam
This mod is for the main AGOT bookmarks, so the dragons are all dead, you need to get eggs naturally in game and attempt to hatch them with the major decision that is a Valyrian hatching ritual
Been flat out bug fixing all morning
Hopefully will be done this update by tonight
Added more functionality to sieges
Potential for you to absolutely yeet sieges with old dragons, burning walls will now scale with age
New calculations for the dragon system so you will have better dances
I will likely be implementing the use of dragon blood ascendancy, so if you use that mod and make your dynasty Valyrian, your entire dynasty will then be able to get dragons
Not necessary however, but I will recommend in the description as it's a neat mod
Will also try and make a pdf guide to explain the mod better
Some other fixes as well, have messed around with modifiers, will be save compatible
I'd put it last just incase
Alr
I seen the desicon
To hatch the eggs
but
I didnt see the option to ask for an unclaimed dragon
and such
Dragons have to be hatched and their rider must die
For there to be an unclaimed dragon
So this mod dosent have like unclaimed dragons such as seasmoke
it does
I'm saying no dragons probably exist in your game
The dragons have to actually be born, they don't randomly exist
No
that's a submod
You could spawn the dragons yourself with debug
but I didn't make the mod for submod bookmarks, just those in the base mod
Mmm okay
why is that I've visited my dragon's lair 5 times now and didn't get an egg or dragon
do you have valyrian steel
how to get bigger dragons?
mod?
they grow on their own
yes
you're using the wrong decision
of wildfire
is there a major decision
called attempt valyrian hatching ritual
or something to that effect
oh no
wait you already have a dragon yeah?
yes
you will lose out on being able to use dragons
you can't hatch a dragon yourself if you already have one
give it away to a family member
oh
either cradling it with an infant in your family
whats the option?
does your dynasty have the blood of old valyria modifier?
gift artifact?
for the infants
there should be a character interaction
otherwise gift artifact to an adult
my update today will make it so your dynasty will always have access
for now its high valyrians, kids of high valyrians and grand children of high valyrians
can I gift artifact for an infant?
how old ar ethey
too old to cradle
so you can gift artifact but they mighnt hatch it
new update today will increase rate of hatching eggs
found a better way to make ai do it
1 year is enough to hatch?
ye
how far removed from high valyrian is the child
I have the valyrian steel mod
idk
i think he was born high valyrian
and then I diverged culture
i download the sub mod where is it ?
where is the download of the sub mod ?
do you have debug mode on
steam
yes
don't have version rn to manually upload as I am mid updating
its me
ok understood, thanks
how does hatchling inheritance work? i've had a few kids die and it seems like their dragons just disappear instead of becoming wild
it will give your dynasty access
wym hatchling inheritance
like dragons that are hatchlings?
yes
okay
are the dragon eggs from valyrian steel mod the ones for this mod?
They're the same dragon eggs as the base mod
Doesn't matter if theyre court artifacts or inventory artifacts
Gimme ten mins
aight i'll wait
Just gonna run an error check but we should be good to go
Nice
Do you have the manual zip?
gimme a min
Quick question, so i'm playing as the younger brother of Aerys who took over crackclaw point, I started a civil war for my attempt on the throne. When I seek out Aerys because he has a dragon and kill him the war just ends, any work around for this while still killing Aerys?
if u kill him does it become invalidated war? or not?
Invalidated
also, how do u see if another person has a dragon?
Look in their inventory
idk if theres a work around that... maybe if he's heir take over the war, idk
u continue the war but dont win it tho
got it?
Thank you for the answers.
Would be fun if you could race for fun with dragons to improve relations with another dragon rider like Daemon and Laena.
Or intimidate subjects to get through with a decision as Daemon uses Caraxes.
But i can wait for the main mod.
@bronze hollow GOATed
Update is out on steam as well
Added AI only interaction for them to hopefully hatch dragon eggs easier and expanded the blood of old valyria dynasty modifier functionality
@nimble moon
@split mirage any chance you could pin the zip?
I appreciate everything you do Tuned. I want to know if its possible to change age of dragon with debug? I have seen the spawn debug: effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}
you can
but you need to manually adjust the combat score and wait for modifiers to catch up (may take a number of years depending how far you have leaped in age)
whatever amount of years you are adding to the dragons age, add that exact same amount to the dragon combat score
on top of what it might already be, 0 etc.
Ohh okay. Thinking of making Balerion, Vhagar and Meraxes.
I don't mind letting game run some years as i plan the invasion
@oblique wadi any chance you could pin this for me ;-;
What are the combat score for the different stages of the dragon? Can i check it somewhere?
you are given a base combat score on birth of dragon
then 1 is added every year (so the age is basically added)
okay i understand
it tells me that the mod was not installed correctly or some parts are missing
How would i fit it into this? : effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}
The age^^
you need to manually edit the .mod if you downloaded manually
or did you download through steam?
with the red triangle
you cant
you need to do that then edit with debug with explore objects
search artifacts with the "has_variable = dragon_id"
will display all dragons
Okay thanks you are the best. Sorry for all the questions
No worries, hope you enjoy 🙂
fastduke do I have to go to the command console during the game?
do I have to go to the files?
My friend. It is tuned you should ask 😄
@subtle quest do u have debug?
Because I get 4 generations killed in a battle because there dragons are younger
Yeah
How should i do ?
U can age and change the left span and dmg
Just like this there is no code?
No
Damn
Wow thanks
After all of that u gotta go back and hit that lil update button at the bottom
Now i can make Balerion, Meraxes and Vhagar
I have retired from the game for a bit
Ok
Got hooked on college football 25
Why
Damn are you the captain?
Nah I’m doing dynasty do a team rebuild
to use this mod, I need to disable the dragon of valyrian mod
Wellll I never seen that red triangle before but ya?
Maybe the folder connection is wrong
I should wait 1 year right.?
Yes
the link is this
It's too hard
I’m steam so idk anything about that
That’s fucking wild
All of them are king only one of them managed to live until 40s
Damn
How do i kill a Dragon? I keep spawning, but i have to spawn 6 or 7 dragons before its the right colout LoL
once I enter the game I have to use cheats to get dragons right?
You know how to delete the dragons or spawn a specific colour?
Guys, you can check out the mod here, in case you wonder
https://discord.com/channels/506198526230003740/1263486712114581514
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3291830799
What does this mode do?
effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}
Where do I put this?
The properties?
Once all of your dynasty members are of the Valyrian blood/heritage you can take the decision and gain the blood of old Valyria dynasty modifier
You just paste it right there when you open the menu
The launcher menu?
Or the steam on e
Srry I’m asking so much questions just trying to work this out
Okay. As launching in steam at the game you need: -debug_mode
Then when you have started up the game, you open the debug menu and paste it right there where you can write
There is a writing box above debug menues
he doesn't give me events for eggs or to become a rider
ty
is there any command to spawn an egg?
in debug mode
check pinned pdf
ty
Guys I aged my dragon until he became 201 old and then died why?
So, how do you get the option to "cradle the egg"? I got a kid, she is High Valyrian and Old Gods, I am a dragon Rider but I have no option to cradle the egg?
Ho old is your kidm
Laid?
Kid?
Just right klick on hum you will find the decision
Do you have the mode?
Mode?
The unessarry dragons
oh, yeh. I am dragon Rider
Then why?
hm ?
Why what?
I don't understand why the dragon doesn't let me select him in the regalia
It worked for you? I Aged dragon to 100 years but it still says that is is under 5 years old
Takes a year for the age to change
Thanks
First you need to age your dragon step by step if he is still less than 5 years the first you need to add 25 years and then wait 1 year then he becomes a young dragon and then add 25 years to become an adult dragon and wait 1 year and then add 50 years to become a mature dragon with more than 100+ year no one can kill you or your dragon
Thanks. Do you change dragon combat score?
Yeah I did
You scale it the same number as the dragons age?
I just killed this man
Nice
Still wondering how I get the decision to "cradle the egg" so my kid gets a dragon
Question: The Unnecessary Dragon mod, should it be on the bottom of the mod order or near the top?
Maybe I got a conflicting mod somewhere :S
If you have other dragons mode just cancel it
Which other one?
Any mode in the steam uses dragons
I do not have any
Ok then restart the game
I have tried, did not work :/
and I don't have the decision to do the Ritual either, but I figured that it since i am a dragon Rider with a dragon already
Guys, can you explain to me why you don't let me select the dragon in the regalia?
you don't have to, they are "equipped" automaticly
I'm going mad
as long as it is in your inventory, it works
No, valyrian ritual in decisions
I can't get it up, nor have it show. But that's is how it is done
Ok
Thank you, I was trying every possible way to understand why it wasn't selecting it for me
but in this version you can use dragons in battle, right?
I have a last question. Is it possible to gift a dragon to a family member? I have 3 dragons on same person 😅
I tried to unequip the other 2 by debug
no
but u can sell them in the market
smh
Not even with Debug?
okay thanks
I did that to destroy. But i need to force it to another character. But its good
Its okay if not possible
wym force it?
I have 3 dragons on my player. I need to give 2 of them to 2 family members.
But they wont accept as its useless to them they say. But its okay
instead of dragons give eggs
if they're adults and have children under 4yo
they will eventually give them to their childs and hatch it
Thanks
if u have debug mode on you can enable bypass_requirements to craddle egg with anyone no matter their age, if you have yesmen on you can give them dragons if they dont want take it for some reason
but yesmen doesnt make someone a dragon rider tho
u cannot make someone a dragon rider just by gifting a dragon
sorry, what i do is take the artifact from them so i can name the dragon. but they wont accept the dragon as a gift anymore, so i use yes men to force them to accept it.
i should have been more specific
i currently am getting modifiers from to seperate dragons
this guy has the dragon modifiers but not the dragon rider trait?
maybe a way to scare rebellious vassals into leaving factions with your dragon?
luv this submod
ancient dragon is insane
didn't reach that yet tho
does anyone know why i cant cradle a dragon egg with my kid
are they older than 4 I think
I started during aegons conquest and since Balerion was born around 100 years before that I aged him to be 100
At start of game and it's been another 60 years since then
Idk but I don't want two dragons
Are they your kid🫣
How do you rename dragons?
you can rename artifacts in vanilla no?
If you click on the 3 dots on the artifact, you can rename them
Thanks!
you can rename dragons of other character if you take the artifacts from them using cheat menu sub mod and then grant the dragons back to them using yesmen in debug
Thanks heaps
i have an issue where i have some how tamed two dragons
Also not sure if anyone else is having this issue but since the mod was updated my dragons are no longer working in my current save. Do I have to restart @bronze hollow sorry to ping
So how did this happen
Do you think
Did you load the save and it broke?
but the only eggs you can get are the ones you already have at the start of the game or is there an event to get them?
trying to figure out the current bugs
not sure why the claim wars are being invalidated by the defender dying
For me this mod works exclusively in the Aegon V timeline.
Was it done like this, or is it a problem with how I put the mod?
because I already have a problem with the agot+ mod
It's designed as a rebirth of dragons mod
since they're the only official bookmarks available
so wouldn't be surprised with issues on other bookmark mods if there are interfering dragon features
I have made it as compatible as possible
You can age dragons? How?
You can get them at the market or by going on an expedition to old valyria
It was working early today. I saved and quit. Later in the day I got back on and noticed I had two dragon mount modifiers. I did have two dragons in my inventory as well. Again i saved and quit not thinking anything of it and later in the day i got back on the game and noticed that the modifers were no longer giving any bonuses. I hope all that males sense
Try using debug mode to gift the dragons to someone then taking them back
do you have a previous save you can reload to before that save
just to even test
Might reload the buffs
if its broken
Debug mode then go to explore objects and then filter to artifacts, look up the name of dragon and you can change their age
What's the effect command?
I don't think so I usually use the auto save/save and exit save
Auto save saves the past 3 years of game
Check that maybe
These are the steps
I'll look into
Should look like autosave, autosave_1 and autosave_2
Last step
Well that's if you have auto saves set to yearly right?
Because I have mine set to monthly 🥲
Fair
I am not sure what happened there
I am not sure how to fix it for you tbh, my apologies
I played a game during the dragon dance and it didn't work, so I tried with the aerys II timeline and it didn't work.
probably, it only works in the Aegon V timeline
It does work with different timelines
I made an error in latest update
Fixing it atm
The mod works for you in other timelines, besides that of Aegon V.
because it could be that it's my fault if the mod doesn't work correctly, given that even the agot+ mod, even though I activated it, doesn't work for me
because I saw that some people liked the mod during the Aegon the Conqueror timeline, maybe the problem is my fault because I did something wrong when manually putting the mod
It does yeah
I am mid game on a roberts rebellion playthrough
dragons are fine
god damn
I have a question to how the dragons impact battles.
How much of a difference do they give when you fight? You would still need somewhat of a lagrer force of the ones you attack or?
I experienced that when you are outnumbered 2 to 1 that it dosn’t make a big difference. You still lose.
depends how old the dragon is
if the dragon cant supply enough damage output before your army is overrun then you will be forced to flee
paradox dropped the ball when it comes to our ability to affect combat
the likes of using dragon in combat decisions from ck2 agot aren't possible
we can't effect combat in that way anymore
I have fixed the casus belli issue
of wars being invalidated
I will drop the new update in a bit fixing the dragon duel bugs
Alright. I understand 😊
the main effect is battle roll
Combat score influence that?
wym?
I got bypass_req on, debug mode and I still don't get the option for my child to cradle the egg. Anyone have noticed any similar issues?
Its not mine just reposted pictures. But you can edit it
do you have the updated mod?
cause previous version doesnt let you cradle unless u high valyrian and stuff
your child also needs to be less than 4yo
@oblique wadi
(plz <3)
New update is out guys, I have fixed the dragon duel bugs and some others, unless someone comes to me with a serious problem with a feature not working, this will be the last update
No worries
good job
why dont u have a modders tag?
this might be the best submod so far
oh no
add + things 🙂
tbh I might try continue to update this mod.. if u give me permission for it
If you were going to do that, I would ask that you make a submod for it, like the dragon rider start one
submod inception
I have it subscribed through steam? Does it not auto update?
Sometimes you gotta resub
lol that’s my picture
I made it that high
The battleroll modifier are gone for me since 2.6. I've also tried an different older savegame and starting a new game. Anyone else having that issue?
for me it works perfect
That's really weird. I'm not using any other submods and had no issues before yesterday.
@bronze hollow I found something weird... my son who's High Valyrian doesnt get any dragon eggs, and when I tried to "spawn" one for him he just equipped it and doesnt craddle it with his daughter who's 1yo
now he has 2 eggs
How long has it been?
5 months I think
May take years man, would rather reported if its been 5-10 years, is more worrisome then
it is also working on my old save
you defo sure its not working?
I nerfed it to only have battle roll and not advantage as well
Tuned every update 2 hrs later
anyone know a possible reason as to why the "claim dragon" decision isn't coming up? my character is westerosi valyrian and his father was the one that hatched the dragon
Yeah I did this and I got the option to claim the dragon finally. Weird. Wonder which submod (if any) is causing this
so I can't claim it when my character receives the dragon in his own inventory, but can claim it when it's in another characters inventory
oh ok
Does anyone know how to change the age of a dragon using the console?
Unfortunately, the dragon modifiers have not changed, even small(
you have to hit update table afterwards
Well, yes, I'm just pressing this button
I wrote a guide, but a bot deleted it :(
I dug into the mod files and made a guide on how to change the age of a dragon with all the modifiers, etc. As a result, everything changes except the description of the artifact, but this is of little importance.
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1). Go to the debug console and click on the "Explore Objects" button;
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2). In the menu that appears, in the "Provider" section, select the "Artifacts" section. Then, in the "Search Key" field, enter the name of your dragon (you can see it in the artifact name). Press enter, then select your dragon from the list below;
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3). After opening the new menu, go to the "Script Variables" section select the parameter "dragon_age" and enter the age of the dragon (for example 26.00);
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4). Next above, select the section "Script Runner" - "Effect" and enter the following commands to make your dragon young, After entering, press the "Run" button:
remove_artifact_modifier = hatchling_dragon_modifier
remove_artifact_modifier = adolescent_dragon_modifier
add_artifact_modifier = young_dragon_modifier
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5). Then return to the main menu, select the "Living Characters" section in "Provider". Enter your character's name in the "Search Key" field and press enter.
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6). Next, select the section "Script Runner" - "Effect" above and enter the following commands to give modifiers to the character. After entering, click the "Run" button:
remove_character_modifier = hatchling_dragonrider_modifier
remove_character_modifier = adolescent_dragonrider_modifier
add_character_modifier = young_dragonrider_modifier
- 7). Next, go back to the main menu and click the "Update Table" button at the bottom.
I think it will be useful to someone
@bronze hollow did u just did that because never got that before
how do dragons age naturally in this mod?
like how old is considered adolescant young and adult
5 is hatching after right after is hatching it’s another stag but from 6 25 once 25 it’s young adult once 50 it’s adult
And I think once it hit 100 it would be another stage
oh okay ty
0-5, 6-25, 26-50, 51-100, 101-200, 201+ (last stage)
hatchling from 0-5, adolescent from 6 to 25, young from 26 to 50, 51 to 100 is adult, 100 to 150 is matue and then ancient 150 to 200, 200+ is dying stage, still gives higher bonus but your dragon can die at any moment
if I'm not mistaken
change your dragons life expectancy to 10000 yrs like i do
translate a spanish the mod pls
how are people finding the power of dragons with the latest updates
@summer kelp
Does this mod not work with The AGOT Submod pack??
If you mean the submode core mod, it is compatible, have not noticed any issues
Mind showing me your Load list???
I'm in game right, lol
But I'll send one when I take a break
In principle it should be: agot, agot submode core, all agot specific submods and the other mods at the end
If you post yours, I can try to help you re-arrange it
I have a slightly different order, not 100% it matters but my game does run without issues
Took a break so here is my order:
(and a lot more mods, sorry)
I have a problem, since yesterday the battle advantage is no more present when i go to battle
is anyone esle having this problem?
I tried starting game only with this submod, and I tried disinstalling and reinstalling the whole game and subscribing again to the submod, nothing worked
oh ok, thanks!
Is it like +25 battle roll or something?
Depends on the age of the dragon
I nerfed it
THEY ARE DRAGONS!
Yes, but it's better balance now imo
I keep blowing up with a custom character when I try to hatch the egg
it possible to make script decision for battle like how you made it for burning the wall or cites
How can I avoid it?
Are you using the hatch egg option or the Valyrian hatching ritual option? Don’t use the hatch egg option it’s from the VS mod and will always kill you. Use the one that says hatching ritual under major decisions.
Valyrian Steel mod
NO
caps
ck3 combat system has f all ability to be influenced
so devs are limited on such things
Is there still the bonus of having other dragon riders in your army?
yes
it's actually properly functioning so you can be the knight of an army who's commander isn't even leading the battle
and you will still be able to influence the battle as the dragon rider
Cool
For some reason my dragons aren’t growing up anymore. It’s been like 30 years and it’s still an adolescent. There are only two dragons that managed to grow up before he glitch. It was after my first character died and her kid became my neck character.
Idk if this is better for submod help but I figured a thread where people who have used the mod is better then it getting lost in a general submod channel
it possible to make your dragon live for 1000 year
Change the life expectancy variable
How long have you been playing the save
And did you use the console at all
a few days maybe a week at most. and no I have never used the console as it crashes my game for me.
lemme check.
Submode core, canon children, agot+, AGOT bookmarked, armor of the kings guard, legacy of the dragon, Valyrian steel, crowns of Westeros, A dragonrider start, and dragon blood ancestry.
i make mine live for 10000 yrs
i have other mods outside Agot but they are mostly appearance mods and general tools since i cant use console commands and they have never affected the game before.
@bronze hollow what do you think about making feeding prisoners to your dragon increase their age/or make them stronger
^ like if you feed them a lot
Is there anything special that needs to happen for the “visit my mounts lair” decision to become available? I’ve hatched a dragon, the dragon is more than 5 years old but I can’t equip it and the requirements of the dragon aren’t fulfilled.
wait can characters get burned by dragon fire in battles ? cause i’ve seen a couple npcs get burned or killed with burned trait after being in a battle with an opposing dragon
how
How long does it take for a dragon to grow up? Rhaegar needs his scaly friend in battle
there are some pictures posted in this channel that explain it
Hey, so where should I put the mod in my load order I've been putting it at the bottom because previous dragon mods I used before.I took my hiatus from ck Worked best at the bottom But i've noticed that Bonding with a still living dragon after a character's death Has not been possible for me
wow i always dream with a mod like this, your work its incredible 
I have heard problems potentially with AGOT+
won't be adding anything else
dragon has to be 25
and you can't equip dragons
you're given an automatic modifier
It hasn’t happend in my new save. So hopefully it doesn’t happen again.
how do I use the dragon in warfare?
they are used in the battle roll
in debug mode you can change it
How can I see if it's being used? I also have this weird thing that even after 5 years my dragon isn't aging
Hover over the advantage in battle, it's part of "Combat Roll" or something. Also it might take a little while for the dragon age stage to update, just wait a bit and it should update
tons of my characters give away their dragons and most people with the dragon rider trait have no artifact
When i start as a Dragon rider in a new campaign all of the Targaryens immediately also have Dragons, is that normal?
Not all, most of them though, like Egg starts out as a dragonrider as well when i start that bookmark?!?!? Non-canon targ children also get them
My first dragon is still a hatchling as well
I do have historic uncertain outcomes though, so maybe they didnt burn at Summerhal? But there are like 4 new dragon hatchlings now, like 6 years in the campaign
Aegon starts with 7 Dragon Eggs
I would assume so yeah
Okay makes sense then
I thought maybe i fucked the game or something
Lots of dragons in the world then xD
Aegon done it fr timeline
In my Rhaegar started game in Essos after Rebellion
I am now Jon Snow (Jaehaerys) on the IT
and my fuckin sister gave her Tyrell son an egg
back to inbreeding we go
this is what I get for trying to form alliances
Writing an AAR for it, something I like to do with my games for rp n shit, writing it as a maester from the future fire and blood style
How is it possible that the mod only works for me with the Aegon V timeline?
I tried in the Rhaegar vs. Robert timeline and it didn't work, then I tried in the Aegon the Conqueror timeline and it didn't work.
Could it be that it doesn't work well due to the order of my mods?
Probably an order issue, remeber tho, you dont just have a dragon, you gotta actually get an egg and hatch em
Aegon V starts with eggs because in the Lore, he starts with eggs
and he burns themm all in summerhall trying to hatch em
so if you don't have the eggs it won't give you the events?
if you don't have eggs, shouldn't the ritual event be under the events with the ones you can't activate?
because, for me, the events only appear in the Aegon V timeline
I don't know what's going on there as you need a dragon egg in your inventory to see the Valyrian Hatching Ritual major decision
but I doubt it is something to do with my mod and probably a submod conflict
How is it not working if I may ask?
I do not know
the problem is, I don't have the "expedition to Old Valyria" event
did you not get the Valyrian Steel submod?
maybe it's because it's part of another mod that I don't have, it should be in the "legacy of the dragon" mod right?
I don't like that mod, I downloaded it on this server.
but that mod doesn't even appear in the game launcher
that is required and it tells you when you subscribe
it has the valyrian expedition decision
I tried to insert the mod again, now it showed me, but it tells me the same thing with another mod
Steam didn't download it properly for whatever reason idk
Unfortunately for me in that mod, it gives me a file error
I put the mods manually
I don't have ck3 on steam
Isn't it possible that I can get eggs with a cheat?
Very excited for the devs diary
the session I just had on ck3 went crazy
playing with two of my mates
in a single session, I died riding my dragon against Myr attempting to form a New Valyria, my friend accidentally killed his entire family with the wrong dragon egg decision and my other friend had his dragon rider rooted out of his keep and completely deposed
my dragon died as well against myr
mfw scorpion
copy thank you sir!
and a mod that you have yet to make available for download?
Understood
There manual download is in the pinned
if that's what you meant, bit confused by your message lmao
i've been tryna fuckin.... figure out how to use this mod for a solid 3-4 days now and not once, no matter how Targaryen I am, not ONCE have I either started the game with a dragon, or found a dragon egg, or been given a dragon egg, or ANYTHING like that. It's extremely frustrating
just use the console😭
does dragon size actually make a difference to the battle roll or is it just descriptive? i was comparing a dragon that had the "hes huge for his age" description to one that has a "slender for their age" and it seemed the same
what commands then
I have multiple eggs, I have Valyrian blood, I have all the necessary perks/traits. I see nothing that would allow me to do the hatching ritual
just something that says "hatch egg" and there's like a 50/50 chance of dying by wildfire (even though EVERY SINGLE TIME that I do it, it kills me, so in practice it's a 100% certainty of death)
yea that "hatch egg" decision isn't part of this mod
you should be seeing "attempt valyrian hatching ritual" in major decisions if you are of valyrian descent
if you arent its probably a load order issue
or an incompatibility issue
idk what it's coming from then
unneccessary dragons is the only mod i have related to dragons
i finally got the option to appear, but i can apparently only hatch one dragon??
like i said, multiple eggs
like four of them now
yea you can only have one dragon at a time
wtf
unless you use console commands to spawn dragons in
but i've got five other people in my house that are dragonless
how can i make THEM hatch em
give them the egg and they'll hatch it themselves, you cant hatch it for them
oh real shit
and if they're children
like really young idk 1 - 4 i think
you can cradle the egg
with them and it has a higher chance of hatching
np
btw do you know what console commands i'd need to spawn a derg?
i'm tryna dig through the root files and see if i can't discern it but i'm not seein one
i think i found it in the steam workshop pages comments/description
i shall hunt there then
kirimvose syt aoha dohaeris
aight i found this command
effect = {create_story = story_cycle_dragon_rider}
someone was kind enough to supply me with this one as well, recently
effect = { get_random_dragon_egg_artifact = { OWNER = this GIVER = this } }
sorry to bug you again, but i have a question: would you know of a console command to forcefully advance the age of a dragon, for testing purposes?
I'm aware that it could possibly break saves, which is why i don't intend to do it on saves I care about lol
Also i'm.... REALLY confused as to why I have to wait 25 years to be able to mount and ride my dragon, when that's not canon. Daenerys mounted Drogon when he was 2-3 years old. Morning, who was hatched after the Dance of the Dragons, by age 5 was grown enough to allow Rhaena to ride her. Arrax and Lucerys were both 13 when they went on their first ride, so that's on the HIGH end of the spectrum, which I chalk up to Arrax being kept in the Dragonmont once he grew too big to be kept in the keep at Dragonstone (it's very well known that keeping dragons locked up inside stunts their growth)
Vermithor, conversely, at age 14, was already considered to be a "large" dragon, and he was hatched the same day at Jaeharys I
as in, by the time Vermithor was 14, he was 1/5 the size of Balerion
that's per fire and blood
so, me, personally, i'm editing the scripts on my personal version of the mod so that the aging requirements for "adolesecent" only take 8 years, because that seems like a good happy medium
I might drop it down to five
and i mean, hey, if that breaks it, i can always just re-install the mod
bruh
what're you bruhing
I meant the dev diary mod, which the guy was talking about
you still can ride the dragon into battle just melting walls in a siege isnt probably the most realistic thing as a small unexpirenced 5 year old dragon
the age modifer is more because a dragon the size of balerion is gonna be way way more devasting than a dragon the size of drogon in like season 4
This doesn't hold water. Drogon in season 4 was 3 years old and already capable of taking on large groups of people. Drogon in season 8 was 7 years old, and his flames had such force behind them that he was able to collapse SEVERAL of the Red Keep's towers, and blast hundreds of houses, tenements and other structures made of stone to pieces. Yes, Balerion at his prime age, OBVIOUSLY is going to be more devastating than Drogon in his adolesence, which for dragons is MUCH YOUNGER than it is for humans, and it lasts way shorter of a time. One might call it adultescene.
Mind you that Drogon was, from what I can judge off of a lot of cross referencing, roughly the same size as Meleys, who herself was much older.
Then again, Meleys was a "castle" dragon. She spent much of her time in either the Dragonmont or Dragonpit, or perhaps a similar lair in High Tide
Drogon, on the other hand, was only one step away from being a completely wild dragon before Daenerys died
Unlike Viserion and Rhaegal, Drogon was never locked away in the Dragonvault beneath the Great Pyramid of Mereen
which, yes, that was yet another purpose-built layer for dragons
If you want to go with a happy medium, drop the age of being "rideable" to 7 years
25 years is too long
just so you see this too
Drogon was 7 and blasting apart castles

I mean in terms in size
And devestation
Dany’s dragons grew way faster than normal anyway
Otherwise Aegon III would be a terror at the Gullet
Also in this mod, a hatchling dragon still gives combat buffs, so idk ehat you want
No it doesn't affect fighting men
It only affects dragon duels
Dragon age affects battle stats outside of dragon duels
The mod is based on the books and that's what I was aiming for
The damage done to walls scales with age
An ancient dragon will completely annihilate and potentially kill the court your siegeing
It's a bit frustrating as everything is explained in the document lol
Like the commands are there as well
Dragons are rideable from 5
Adolescent dragons can be ridden, hatchling can't be
But even hatchling dragons assist you in battle
doesn't seem that way but maybe i've missed something idk
Question: Currently playing as House Forrester, one of my sons is married to a Targaryen, and I have 2 or 3 dragon ages via expeditions to Old Valyria. Can I cradle the eggs with my grandchildren or do I as the player need to be a Targaryen to do so.
Need to be Valyrian to do so, tis a targaryen cultural tradition
Ah. Well, 2 of the eggs gives me small health boosts so small victory. Lord Gregor Forrester is 72 and still in "fine" health.
@bronze hollow is TUD meant to give you a dragon or is just the trait
dragon is an artifact
when I lay siege, why don't you give me the event to call my dragon and burn the enemy castle?
how old is your dragon
I don't know, about ten I think.
If you want I'll check and tell you
I recommend reading the pdf
Your dragon has to be old enough to melt the walls of a castle, it is set as 25+ or the Young Dragon agegroup
you'll only do about -5 in fort level with a young dragon
older dragons do more damage
but if I use the mod you made with your update, can I use the old save without any problem?
wym
have you used my mod on that save yet?
and did it already have valyrian steel and agot submod core
Yes
what version of the mod are you playing with
yes, I had all the mods, but on the save there is a red icon that says mods are missing
with the last one where you said you had solved the problem with dragon duels
yeah that will work fine then
it says mod_ with numbers
you're gonna to work out which mod it is that you are missing then
It says it's missing some parts, but I went in and it seems to work.
but in that save he had not yet unlocked the event of being able to use the dragon during sieges
the mod I'm missing apparently is that of the royal guards' weapons
It shouldn't cause me any problems right?, because I played a game with Reaghar during Roberth's rebellion, and to kill him I had to reload the game 5 times
I honestly don't feel like starting over again
😢😢😢
why don't you download the mod again?
that mod conflicted with some other mod, because sometimes it kicked me out of the game when I was on the loading screen. other times it made me freeze the game for a few seconds
so I launched the game adding the mods every time I entered the game, to understand which mod was causing me to have those problems in game
Also don't see this option, and my dragon is now 19
but then again i did personally adjust the ages
25 to blast castles
Young age group, right? Which is the one just after hatchling isn't it?
Adolescen is the one after hatch
Well that doesn't make much sense lmao
From a grammatical standpoint
So it can have duels and storm castles
Okay so third age group
I guess?
Well with my adjusted age i should see it, idk if maybe I just couldn't find the button lmao
Try changing the age then siege something and see if the button is there
There will be a decision that pops up if you’re commanding the army and your dragon is old enough. It takes around a year for your dragons age to update after you change it.
Cool beans
Quick question, are dragons special artifacts like the historical unique artifacts?
has the bug with dragons dissapearing after changing their age in debug mode been patched yet?
I never heard that reported before
And I'm not gonna make patches for editing in debug tbh
Not sure wym
Is there any kind of consul command I can use to have?The dragons aged up sooner I was really hoping to have a dance of dragons with Maelys I Blackfyre and my chrecter but he invades westeros so quickly
you can set your dragon's durability to whatever age you want, like that dragon can live up to 2000 years
thats fair but i mentioned it earlier#1261346648894865409 message
ohhhh
yeah thats fixed
that was an issue unrelated to the debug even
i forgot to remove character modifiers for when dragons die 😭
I fixed that in the update directly following that message
thats why i was snapping, seems like something simple I forgot, but a lot of systems moving and i was still kicking myself hehe
@bronze hollow oh all g i havent played in a few days and i seen the latest ep of hotd and that made me want to do a new run but didnt want to age dragons just for them to go bye bye but sweet as
on downloading the mod on Steam, I saw that there was an event that the character flew with his dragon, when you unlock the event
does it unlock when the dragon is at least 25 years old?
Ahh okay thank you! Cleared up my confusion.
Let me just say this is an incredibly epic submod. Great job and so lore friendly as well.
All of the VS weapons have this script variable:
historical_unique_artifact
You can add it to the dragon in explore objects but basically it stops the ai from destroying or trading historical artifacts.
I answered my own question though after messing around with it for awhile. I just wanted an extra defense against the ai trying to get rid of their dragons.
I have minimal modding knowledge or I would just copy the code from one of the historical artifacts and paste it in your mod. Chances are I would mess everything up. Lol
huh
i have the artifacts set as unique
so probs
unless thats an additional variable
how did you manage to get it?
Cause i also dont see the option for the ritual
@bronze hollow can I change the age of my dragon when I start
with commands or smth
bc I wanna do an RP targ reconquest
How do you change their age in debug
Just out of curiosity
Had to get lucky on an expedition to valyria
First two trips both dudes died
Third trip they brought back a useless fucking glass candle
Fourth trip I finally got my egg
Yeah i have an egg, i just dont have the Hatching ritual decision, only the ''hatch egg''
#1261346648894865409 message
^
ah, kirimvose
it updates with age but ive seen 41 combat score on the high side
it takes a few years to take into affect
it pretty much makes them age rapidly every year
you need to hit update table afterwords
I hit update table like five times 😬
it takes a while its not instant
from my experince it takes like 5-20 years still to fully grow to the age you want, it pretty much just rapidly ages the dragon each year
Do yk if i give a dragon egg to my kids if they will hatch it
@bronze hollow
if you craddle it with them before they are 4
does anyone know how to spawn a valyrian stell sword?
I mean if anyone knew how to do that we wouldn't be recycling and melting down the Valyrian steel we already have in Westeros now would we?
@bronze hollow welp my laptop had sadly given up on me
I won’t be able to play ur mod no more and play ck3 agot it self now
Welp it was nice when it lasted 🫡
currently, there is only the "recover a Targaryen artifact" event
or you can get one, via expedition to Old Valyria
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_1_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_2_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_3_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_4_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
effect create_artifact_vs_sword_5_basic_effect = { OWNER = this }
I think you need Valyrian Steel mod
Also, if you want armor:
effect agot_create_artifact_valyrian_steel_armor_effect = { OWNER = this }
quite new too this mod, is there anyway to get family members to hatch eggs?