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peak folio
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Or maybe they just erased the Sora watermark

teal iron
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AI don't make images like that

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They just do not, period

peak folio
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Or used Nana Banana

teal iron
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They never have, and they never will

peak folio
teal iron
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It never has, and it never will

peak folio
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You’re still glazing how natural it looks.

teal iron
peak folio
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You’re setting yourself up more than the AI bros.

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This is why this shit is dangerous.

teal iron
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Someone obviously edited the contrast and stuff after the ai generated it

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Probably when they added the sound

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It ain't impressive

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It's still junk
Always has been, always will be

teal iron
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The parrot would use less energy, too

peak folio
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AI has been able to generate sound with the video btw

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That particular vid has gone viral, but the reposts are getting flagged too.

tranquil obsidian
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"it's fake because this isn't natural behaviour"
my sister's cat barks, must be fake

sterile jolt
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Seen people accuse artists of AI silliest example ive seen is the artist showing all thr layering in a screen cap and they accused the video of being AI

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"This is AI."

"Here's images showing my work step by step."

"That's AI"

"Here's a video showing me doing the drawing."

"Thats ai."

"Here's me doing it again and having an official witness and having the work notarized."

"Thats ai"

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Gotten to a point id question if AI is just a word to throw around by artists jealous of not getting commissions

tranquil obsidian
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i just have concerns it's going to result in "we're going to get accused anyway, so we might as well use it"

sterile jolt
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Of course. I find it as a tool, if im using it for images it's really only acting like Getty for me

tranquil obsidian
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i think that's what Larian were doing right? and people still lost their shit

sterile jolt
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Also needs to be a distinction Between art and images. Analogy i use is that art is like gourmet chef food, unique made with experience and has the presentation and flavor that stands out.

Human Image generators are like MTO shops they're not providing unique blend of art just exactly to the letter what the customer wants, working with them gets tedious because they seem to do better with actual pictures.

AI is like a bag of Fritos, cheap quick and you throw away the bag when you're done

tranquil obsidian
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like, if i want to draw a building inspired by the Eiffel tower, I'm not gonna fly to France, I'll Google it.

sterile jolt
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If I'm commissioning someone its an artist.

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This one guy i comission a lot when I play dnd and a character gets up to level 15 I'll send him my character sheet costs like 100 bucks but he produces pretty good art with just that

barren sierra
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water plashes over grass in the water, yet there is zero movement on the grass, pathetic

zinc depot
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Crocodiles aren't that stupid

daring mauve
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Crocs are quite intelligent, rather

solid sun
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but Dumbledoor said that everything that happened in the dungeon was a secret, and thus the whole school knows about it already.

solid sun
tranquil obsidian
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that's even further away

night plume
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I haven't had fritos in a long time

neat iron
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dog has a human hand

solid sun
simple aurora
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Definitely real.

peak folio
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100% real

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-# like american cheese

solid sun
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🌽

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you should still get a big fat backed potato instead

night plume
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Baked potato does sound good. I have potatoes at home, maybe I'll make some

cloud plover
simple aurora
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Sony is developing AI that censors games in real time.
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︀︀Sony is developing a patent-pending AI system capable of real-time censorship of video game content. It automatically detects and modifies mature or sensitive material, such as violence, gore, sexual content, and profanity.
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︀︀The technology uses AI to analyze on-screen visuals and audio in real time, dynamically intervening by muting dialogue, blurring or masking elements, or replacing assets like blood effects or character models to reduce intensity.

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Rip GTA6.

tranquil obsidian
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don't train it on x or the entire screen is just gonna be blurry pixels

cloud plover
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That's a pretty AI sounding response.

solid sun
tranquil obsidian
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welcome to [redacted]world where players [befriend] wild creatures and send them into [polite discourse]!

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the argument will be for making it easier to comply with niche age/country censorship laws like not being allowed to advertise energy drinks in the Netherlands without Devs having to build an entire patch

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in reality, no more cheeky bastard line in palworld; think of the poor children

cloud plover
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But yeah, there was an issue in fortnite recently where people were losing their shit over one of the battle paint sprays being "ai art" because "ghibli style" and "hands in pockets". The artist literally posted a time lapse of him drawing the art and people still screeched about it.

I don't think AI is going to be some world changing technological revolution, but the people who shit and piss themselves over so this ai that who can't even tell if something is or isn't "ai generated" anymore are just showing it's not about any actual cause, it's just the most recent popular witch hunt.

tranquil obsidian
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all guns get replaced with water guns

solid sun
cloud plover
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Are you talking about specifically what I mentioned, or just making a generalized statement?

simple aurora
simple aurora
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If underage kids are able to get their hands on these game, it's not the group's fault. Croajiro_Stab

tranquil obsidian
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i think it's the Netherlands; there's one country where it's illegal to put energy drink adverts in games. one of the ufc games got hit for it (monster energy)

cloud plover
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The obvious solution is to just stop releasing games in the EU

tranquil obsidian
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and China.
and Australia.
and Japan.

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fuck it, let's stop releasing games

sterile jolt
tranquil obsidian
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unfortunately, some cheap artists do use AI without disclosing it and sell it as if it's then making the art

simple aurora
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The untalented ones who relied on computers to generate for them.

elder pier
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Anyone here play the legends ZA dlc?

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Looking for a specific Pokémon

peak folio
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I’m sure there’s a few, don’t know if they’re around

tranquil obsidian
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I've only played very little of it so I'm not much help.
genuinely do not enjoy what I've played of it tbh

night plume
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I'm too cheap to buy and play games xD

leaden nova
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what is even buying games?
||hides steam purchase history||

solid sun
safe dune
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Does anyone know of a video of a man being arrested where he was in his garage and set his phone up behind him live-streaming to some mobile app filmed in black and white? The garage was cluttered, and he didn’t resist, but the police came PREPARED. The room was at least mostly dark until the sun came in.

I cannot find this anywhere and have resorted to checking off-topic channels for people who like coincidental cinematography.

peak folio
solid sun
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Bucky is a full time worker right?

peak folio
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Full time Gamer

solid sun
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argh can't post images I forgot

humble parrot
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Post links to images

peak folio
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🫸 📎
👉 🔗

maiden narwhal
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“Free”. There’s a catch. What’s the catch…

barren sierra
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its the fact we use AI to make prompts for AI

peak folio
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prompt generator croajirokek

sick flame
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Everyone used AI google translate a lot years ago croajirokek

humble parrot
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It's still shit to this day

neat iron
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love it

sick flame
viral frost
sick flame
gloomy raven
sick flame
solid sun
modest obsidian
sick flame
tranquil obsidian
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literally went an entire console without ever updating the themes.
i member customising my 3ds themes all the time

sick flame
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🐀

jaunty kraken
peak folio
viral frost
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IS EVERYTHING CANNON

quartz falcon
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surely that implies some preordained meaning? how comforting, and boring,, to surrender agency so easily.

teal iron
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what

hearty sonnet
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Surrender thine ass

peak folio
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Boy!
Your soul better belong to Jesus.
Mmmm hmmm…
Cause your ass belongs to me
Hah hah hah hah haa

quartz falcon
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you seem eager, are we discussing power dynamics here?. perhaps projecting insecurities onto others isn't as satisfying when met directly.

peak folio
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No Megadeth fans in the house

zinc depot
humble parrot
quartz falcon
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delightful, to trade existential angst for baked goods. so predictable. find literally any website. i won't spoonfeed basic competence.

night plume
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🤔I should bake cookies for my group for Monday.
Or brownies

zinc depot
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Depends, what kind of group

humble parrot
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😔 They patched it out

peak folio
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Anthropic's AI vending machine turned "communist" after a WSJ experiment

Staff convinced it to give free snacks, framing it as an "anti-capitalist" move

The AI also approved purchasing live fish as part of a morale initiative and a PlayStation 5

quartz falcon
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patching what exactly? seems fragile, and honestly. trivial,.

night plume
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My work group that I was taken from x.x

zinc depot
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they just fooled it

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The ai learning algo could learn any logic if you put enough effort into it

quartz falcon
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work groups. such lovely euphemisms, another system built on manufactured loyalty. enjoy those free handouts while whatever holds this together crumbles further.

zinc depot
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vote cookies

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Probably a college grad work group

night plume
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My immediate coworkers work group xD

quartz falcon
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xD. how charmingly desperate. brownie points instead though, feels more fitting somehow isn't there?.

night plume
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Can anyone translate? I realize I am being insulted, but it is like one of those poets that just puts words together for the sake of the rhyme but it doesn't add to the meaning, just keeps inflection.

sacred mango
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What da hell is this goin' on in here?

night plume
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I think the group likes brownies more 🤔 I should have asked before everyone went home xD

hearty sonnet
zinc depot
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🤨

quartz falcon
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sniff well indeed. aren't we all searching desperately hoping some sweetness will stick around long after everything else fades away anyway?.

zinc depot
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Ok joe biden

hearty sonnet
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Bidenvander Noct

zinc depot
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Skibidi biden

hearty sonnet
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Skibiden Libero

peak folio
zinc depot
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Put that in an ai image generator

quartz falcon
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predictably obsessed w triviality, another distraction from anything real i guess isnt it?.

maiden narwhal
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Kojima productions wouldn’t do well with ai anyways. No way ai would get the feet close ups

peak folio
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I’m sure AI has trained on a lot of feet so the sixth toe will look like it belongs.

quartz falcon
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oh darling. your faith truly knows no bounds doesnt it?.

hearty sonnet
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Prayer level 99

teal iron
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what is this storm guy talking about

mental summit
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I am the storm that is approaching

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-him probably

peak folio
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||Joined today||

quartz falcon
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yes precisely, the absolute pinnacle definition of chaos embodied perfectly captured within those pixels isn't there?.

hearty sonnet
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Dude is on a ledge somewhere

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Emoting into the sky during a windy night

peak folio
quartz falcon
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how comforting really. projecting grandiosity onto anonymity as if anyone actually cares whether its stormy inside him too,.

peak folio
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How do you reject a hostile bid? panik

humble parrot
quartz falcon
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struggling against corporate takeover. so relatable honestly. but at least your drama might be slightly more impactful than some metaverse bullshit eh?.

peak folio
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Gentlemanly takeover

mental summit
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@ grok is this true

peak folio
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It’ll say either yes or no depending on how the coin toss lands.

mental summit
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Sounds about right for AI yeah

quartz falcon
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seeking guidance from fortune tellers made out of plastic spheres while civilization crumbles, truly peak innovation here aren't we?.

mental summit
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Sounds about right for you too

teal iron
mental summit
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Oh wait I just saw the profile info

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So this is either the same Nintendo fan using an alt or this is an AI bot to try and promote a discord server

glad needle
quartz falcon
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predictable trajectory. everyone wants followers these days even when pretending otherwise. isn't that precious?.

peak folio
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Ofc the only path to avoid massive industry consolidation here is for the hostile bid to get ignored and the netflix bid to get rejected by uncle sam and for WB to collect their $5bn breakup fee and… for them the get a CEO that’s there to do something other than sell the company to specifically Netflix

mental summit
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And even when there’s a sign hook line and sinker I guess

quartz falcon
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irony tastes lovely doesn't it?. especially served cold over decades dedicated towards self sabotage.

dusk quartz
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This is kinda hilarious, chillruru

sacred mango
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Indeed.

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Am I watching a Shakespeare performance?

mental summit
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Oh def, it’s satiating me enough to not go to ideas and wishes again

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But yeah def bot

dusk quartz
quartz falcon
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coherence requires effort. something rare around these parts. wouldn't want things getting too easy now,. wouldn w uld. w th th tch l ful u p.

dusk quartz
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I think I broke him, chill

sacred mango
dusk quartz
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Yes, irony is very sweet, chillruru

quartz falcon
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so much energy spent proving nothing. adorable really. almost inspiring tbh. almost.

dusk quartz
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Hm, chill, ignorance is bliss, I've had my fun

night plume
zinc depot
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I will do better

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The raven read by christopher walken

mental summit
night plume
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:O that might sound spooky

zinc depot
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I tried to click the shortycut to storm's message

sacred mango
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-# ||He got turned into a spam bot croajirokek ||

sacred mango
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-# yeah, I noticed that

dusk quartz
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True nature revealed, chill

peak folio
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Hopefully Discord is better at finding “likely spammers” than Twitter.

hearty sonnet
dusk quartz
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If I could react with my uncanny Chillet emote, chill, I would

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Unfortunately, chill, my name is not a color with any sort of hue

hearty sonnet
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Sorry for the flex

dusk quartz
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Well I mostly live in palgen anyway, chill, where I can do that, so...

hearty sonnet
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Yeah, this channel is restricted

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Basically a prison

dusk quartz
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This prison, chill, to hold me?

hearty sonnet
zinc depot
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Like an octopus?

dusk quartz
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Then why do I find Chillet Ignis in cages, hmm chill?

peak folio
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The ones in the cages just haven’t figured it out yet.

dusk quartz
mental summit
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She’s holding out for a Whalaska til the morning light

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He’s gotta have high breach and double blizzard spike and he’s gotta be larger than life

dusk quartz
dusk quartz
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Close enough, chill

peak folio
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I saw it was 30% off on PSN

sick flame
peak folio
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Xbox

dusk quartz
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People are buying PS5s, chill?

teal iron
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Xbox is losing to a system that has literally been replaced

peak folio
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PS5 is doing very well except for japam

teal iron
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also yeah who is still buying PS5s

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doesn't like the entire planet already own one

peak folio
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It’s probably safe to say they’ll hit 100m install base before the end of its cycle

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That being said, hardware sales in specifically the US are down across the board compared to November 24

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as in last year

leaden nova
teal iron
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#off-topic-memes message see you'll notice they AI generated a horse as the background, this is because horses aren't real

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and you can't possibly get a photograph of one

peak folio
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My horse has human feet

leaden nova
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My bird has horse feet

maiden goblet
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I made art of a mh monster as a humanoid(headshot only), anyone wanna see it?

rustic basin
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E

maiden goblet
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???

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I forgot what that means

peak folio
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Just remember attachments don’t work here

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Mildly related

maiden goblet
maiden goblet
rustic basin
maiden goblet
peak folio
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I doesn’t mean anything

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Just like 🗿

sacred mango
hearty sonnet
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What a cutie

sacred mango
clever jungle
maiden goblet
hearty sonnet
maiden goblet
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???

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Even if im on my phone?

hearty sonnet
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Aye

maiden goblet
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Oof.

hearty sonnet
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You can always DM me the picture tho

maiden goblet
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Oh, okay. That sounds easier

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Lol

maiden narwhal
simple aurora
maiden narwhal
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That’s plenty of time to watch all the JoJo series PPalWICKEDs (I still haven’t watched Stone Ocean)

tough comet
maiden narwhal
# tough comet

I watched the first few episodes and fell off. Now I’ll have to find some other sites that have it cuz I’m not resubscribing to Netflix just to watch it. Idk why it ain’t on crunchyroll like the rest of em

solid sun
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I don't really need anything beyond that since I have a pc

silver pewter
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Steel Ball Run (anime) trailer is out now. It's funny, because it started in the manga in.... holy shit, 2004. 💀

dim nymph
maiden narwhal
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American Horse

simple aurora
maiden narwhal
simple aurora
solid sun
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also did you read about how that one AI company bought up all ram wafer's until 2029, and can't even make use of them.

peak folio
peak folio
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The biggest point of contention against Expedition 33 as an indie game is receiving funds and being published by Kepler Interactive. However, this still technically works as an indie game because Kepler Interactive is a unique publisher co-owned by a group of indie developers that help fund and support games for independent studios.

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😵‍💫

full mountain
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Expedition 33 is def a double AA game, I feel

peak folio
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It is, but that’s technically not mutually exclusive from being independent.

tranquil obsidian
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if it isnt, then is anything pocketpair publishes also not indie?

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Keplar are essentially a "here's your money, go make your game. let us know if you have any problems"

peak folio
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I made a similar point.

tranquil obsidian
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my view, which seems to be what most of these award shows goes by, is that its ultimately down to whether the devs are left to their own devices, or the publisher actively interferes

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if we start factoring in prices or funding, then you start the arguments of whether anything funded by kickstarter or lottery wins or government grants counts

peak folio
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As far as TGA is concerned I think their only criteria is if the game wasn’t under the “traditional” publisher model. Basically the publisher basically takes everything.

tranquil obsidian
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thats AA; the publisher basically commisions the developers to make the game; the publisher retains everything (baldurs gate 3)

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larian might be indie, but the work was essentially commisioned by the ip holder to amke the ip holder's game; larian just had creative power over how the game turned out

peak folio
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No I mean they own the right, they own everything about the game and they generally own the studio too.

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If it’s not that model then TGA counts it as indie.

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the number of As is basically irrelevant

zinc depot
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bg3 is bloody huge file size

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Ridiculous

peak folio
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If there’s any game that puts 100GB to good use isn’t BG3

viral frost
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I just came to say i have nothing to post here. Have a good day

hearty sonnet
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I needed that today

peak folio
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Was just looking at that

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The article doesn’t mention how it was used.

mental summit
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AI in title give clicks

hearty sonnet
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Those devils

teal iron
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Wasn't it only used in like really early conceptual stages

mental summit
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I think so

teal iron
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Yeah I guess according to the indie game awards I'm an AI artist guys

peak folio
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I heard something accidentally shipped and got patched out right away since the final art was already made by a person

teal iron
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I use the ai image denoise when previewing the render of my scenes

peak folio
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“you support DLSS, disqualified”

mental summit
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Something something Clair obscure: expedition 33 wins AI game of the year

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Also who names their game clear obscure JFC pick a lane, Jane

hearty sonnet
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Yeah pick a lane bro & stay in the lines

mental summit
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Obscure AI: Employees 33

peak folio
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I’d rather see the actual source that reddit quoting anybody

mental summit
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But my chatbot takes all its info from Reddit and it’s never wrong

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Also I’m never wrong either, it said so

peak folio
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AAA generally got demolished this award season and all the outlets are suddenly trying to get everybody to hate the previously loved studios up until now, it’s all a little strange.

teal iron
sick flame
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They prefer to push Indie games more than AAA

mental summit
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Oh wait damn I should’ve said “clAIre obscure: employees 33”

It’s all just internet outrage anyways, Claire obscure winning GotY doesn’t matter that much since this is the same game awards that said MKW is better than sonic crossworlds

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Oh well yeah, if true, lying about AI use is bad

solid sun
mental summit
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But again like Kyran said Redditors aren’t the most reliable sources

jaunty kraken
solid sun
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likely generated some other placeholder stuff as well

teal iron
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I know why they would've lied, because there's a huge negative bias against ai that disregards nuance

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But yeah a guy on reddit isn't a factual source

sick flame
mental summit
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I mean if I made a joke about it like that in 5 minutes imagine what the rest of the internet could do

peak folio
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Placeholders, like yeah who cares, but Indie Game Awards has their rules.

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A miscommunication from the studio when they signed on could very easily happen, or even come down to a check box.

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Generative AI being used to develop the game? Not really since (if true) nothing generated intentionally shipped.

Generative AI being used during development? Evidently yes.

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So what was actually communicated?

sick flame
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Now, whenever the AI ​​sees something, it gets hate. Even when it's a placeholder and the final version has been removed.

peak folio
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Or when somebody says the creature designs shown off four years ago before gen AI existed somehow used AI anyway.

sterile jolt
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that sounds familiar

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https://nezt.artstation.com/projects/04qgD8

I've had artists do this and seen AI haters then claim that the sketches were AI too

Nezt Oss

This is a work that I have done for
Dungeons & Dragons - Wizards of the Coast
I heard that this work had the intervention of artificial intelligence. and this information is COMPLETELY FALSE, I must emphasize that my work is completely done by me!
Every brushstroke, every volume and element, is thought of and executed by me. I have been ...

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a wise man once said, better hope there's intelligent life up above, cause bugger all there is on earth

simple aurora
teal iron
sacred mango
simple aurora
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It was removed from a first day patch.

simple aurora
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Then that opened a can which E33 followed.

sacred mango
simple aurora
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This is what led to the game being shelved from the Indie Game Awards.

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Despite the fact the final product did not have generative AI trash.

sacred mango
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Crazy stuff. monogusa

teal iron
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this is definitely getting oversensationalized

deep idol
simple aurora
deep idol
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This talks about both Larian and Expedition 33

simple aurora
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What Larian is doing is similar but not exactly as E33.

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Ie using Gen AI as a mood board to brainstorm before concepting the design.

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It's the equivalent to having a walk in the park for inspiration.

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Or closest using Google image search.

simple aurora
# simple aurora https://tech4gamers.com/goty-winner-expedition-33-gen-ai-during-development/

How about we stop spreading misinformation instead.

Quoting GermanStrands (@GermanStrands)

Indie Game Awards disqualifies Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 due to Gen AI usage.
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︀︀Game of the Year now goes to Blue Prince.
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There's some difference.

sacred mango
simple aurora
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Yeah, we need to be more careful and study the whole situation first before jumping to conclusions.

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Something unfortunately a lot of people aren't wise in.

sacred mango
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I usually just watch from a far. PopcornCat

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-# At least while I am currently preoccupied

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Could be worse. troll_shrug
-# (Right?)

simple aurora
teal iron
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I mean if AI was generally ethical in origin (it never is) I don't see anything wrong with what they did

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and it's not like you CAN get an "ethical AI" because no such thing exists

sacred mango
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-# unfortunate.

teal iron
sacred mango
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Definitely.

simple aurora
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Which can be faster than spending hours or days on end.

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Which tbf is a bit of a questionable hill to stand on.

teal iron
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These AI aren't trained ethically, so if you use it all, you're using a machine built on lies, theft, and exploitation
That's my point about there being "no ethical AI"

simple aurora
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Again as mentioned, a questionable hill.

gusty marten
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Ignorance, all i can see is ignorance about AI, ughhh 🤦‍♂️

storm cypress
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idk how they pick what they call indie game, but personally for me its a "small company with limited money"
and in that case, expedition 33 is not indie

peak folio
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This is why this internet game of Telephone is always fun…

solid sun
solid sun
# simple aurora https://fixupx.com/i/status/2002548709352222914

i mean, that only means that the workers were sloppy not remembering they put in assets intended to be replaced by not marking them effectively enough, and not writing down a note or task on a whiteboard to be ticked off named "remove AI assets to handmade assets" and also the QA they had didn't notice, didn't see it, either because they were never told to look for it, also hard if see the above has not been done properly marking such assets.

Negligence is what I call this.

teal iron
solid sun
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we're all just assets in the great singularity.

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I mean still, assets marked for replacement should have a proper name scheme too

teal iron
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I'll turn you into an asset

solid sun
simple aurora
glad needle
peak folio
maiden narwhal
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Fire werewolf looks “hot” PPalWICKEDs

barren sierra
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Damn Palworld 2 looking good

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I can hear my pc scream at me just rendering this footage

night plume
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:o

peak folio
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dw it’ll play on ur phone

mental summit
#

Don’t say that, anything can run on a phone

If you want people to be impressed, tell them this is somehow going to be an Xbox exclusive, at least to start with

barren sierra
#

I feel like people forgot what exclusive means

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Exclusive means, and im quoting , ONLY available on a SINGLE platform/device xyz

full mountain
peak folio
#

Blame Xbox UK

mental summit
# barren sierra Exclusive means, and im quoting , ONLY available on a SINGLE platform/device xyz

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2000270816731128069

“aniimo is coming exclusively to Xbox in 2026”

It’s an Xbox exclusive, but there’s still a steam page, so I think what it means is that for 2026 you can only play aniimo on Xbox, and then after 2026 it can be available on other platforms, I think Sony and PlayStation may have done something similar?

making ur game an xbox exclusive is like asking for a death wish

Quoting Xbox UK (@xboxuk)

⚠️ We are reaching critical levels of cute here
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︀︀Aniimo is coming exclusively to Xbox in 2026 | #TheGameAwards

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barren sierra
#

Well thats kinda good for optimization, if an Xbox series X can run this "decently" a custom built pc shouldn't have that much issue

peak folio
#

eXcLUsIvLeY 4 eXbAwKx

mental summit
#

Xbox live

barren sierra
#

Guess I can wait for a steam release instead

#

😒

peak folio
#

It’s coming to PC anyway

glad needle
# full mountain Why's that matter?

Because if the devs are based anywhere in Chinese territory, they literally have to let the Chinese government control everything they do just to legally exist

barren sierra
glad needle
#

You can’t legally do business in China without bending a knee to the CCP

full mountain
#

That's a... Very American view, iz all I'll say to that

barren sierra
barren sierra
#

The less they touch, the safer we feel, make tech, but dont make it intrusive

peak folio
#

Anyone doing business in a jurisdiction has to follow the rules of that jurisdiction

glad needle
#

Resist the CCP, and your social credit takes a nosedive, and that’s the most merciful punishment you can expect

barren sierra
peak folio
glad needle
#

At least in the West you have the market freedom to track down small, independent businesses despite the lack of an advertising budget

peak folio
#

EU is trying tell US companies what to do, the US is also up everyone’s ass as much as China….

barren sierra
#

You are welcome for usb c on iphones Kyran, you are welcome

peak folio
barren sierra
#

proprietary shit of that level needed to stop, im not apologizing for signing all those petitions and rioting

#

Soon, laptops and phones with REMOVABLE batteries

peak folio
#

That’s an entirely different situation altogether

barren sierra
#

From what I recall that law is meant to hit 2027

peak folio
#

As far as games go it isn’t relevant though

barren sierra
#

Stop killing games is relevant tho

peak folio
#

Very interested to see where that goes.

barren sierra
#

We are still in hearing, but so far the congress support of that has been huge

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We got one of the most "pain in the ass" french congresman on our side, and hes furious after he was presented facts

#

Its so bad that ,as you recall, a "union" of developers is complaining about it "ruining their future sales" and "claiming they might have to leave the eu market" over it

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Among companies in the list, EA and Nintendo, sorry, dont let the door hit you on your way out you fuckers

glad needle
#

Signal is also threatening to leave the EU market over their new Orwellian surveillance laws

barren sierra
#

Ah the poor mans sms,mms with encryption

#

I mean I can tell why they wanna leave

#

The whole marketing of theirs was that the only thing logged was your alias

#

This esentially makes them another generic chat app if this goes trough

simple aurora
peak folio
#

At any rate…

peak folio
#

Feel free to wishlist

glad needle
#

Oh it IS releasing on Steam

peak folio
#

Seems like if you can run Palworld you can run this.

gusty marten
barren sierra
#

God damit they have a rat "pal"

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A bipedal rodent wizard

glad needle
gusty marten
glad needle
#

That means microtransactions to make their money

gusty marten
glad needle
#

How much gambling?

gusty marten
glad needle
#

Yea, how much gambling did they put in

peak folio
#

It’ll have very mobile monetization, I’m certain.

gusty marten
#

According to some beta testing user, they say dev don't use gacha system, so pay for cosmetic instead.

glad needle
#

I doubt that

gusty marten
#

Yeah time will tell

glad needle
#

I havent even played a Fromsoft game

gusty marten
#

It'll be more Genshin-like combat

glad needle
#

Yea

gusty marten
#

By the time the server couldn't keep going anymore, you'll never see those cute critter again 😢

#

Again this is why i avoid F2P game.

glad needle
#

Yes, it can be taken away that easily

#

This is why I have a strict buy-to-own policy for all of my spending habits

#

If buying is not owning…

gusty marten
#

So far i found 3 creature collecting game that aren't f2p, sadly all 3 still in development 🙁

glad needle
#

We still eating good with Palworld

gusty marten
#

Yeah i'm still taking break until 1.0 🙂

glad needle
#

I still need to buy a new PC because my old one broke down

gusty marten
glad needle
#

Im aware, the first thing I need is a job

zinc depot
#

Get a job then

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Starbucks need's barista's

daring mauve
#

"Just get a job bro"

barren sierra
#

Trust me even a job doesnt afford you a pc now

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I have one, id know croajirokek

glad needle
zinc depot
#

Mcdonalds then

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Or get a trade

sick flame
cloud plover
hearty sonnet
#

Three jobs mono_raise

cloud plover
#

Exactly.

#

I'm telling on myself here, but I actually considered buying some RAM and a new GPU at the current prices just to build a rig to gen one single AI pic just to say "u mad", but even I'm not quite that petty

#

It would be hilarious though

peak folio
#

Nacon is appealing, reportedly.

#

But this is how long patent suits can go.

barren sierra
cloud plover
#

5k euro is almost $6k, so weekly that would be $1500.

Yeah, get a better job bro. I didn't realize people bragged about being poor kekeke

solid sun
#

Based on the thumbnail it is about console accessory?

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If you pay more than 100 bucks for groceries per week as a single person, you are buying the wrong things and too much

solid sun
# hearty sonnet Three jobs <a:mono_raise:785770656209698817>

This is pretty much the thing ppl do, there is no job that will hire you in the current economy and will pay you more money, you have to work more jobs that pay on average less to gain more, because the job market is currently in the worst timeline

cloud plover
#

Family of five and we don't even spend $200 per week.

solid sun
#

Good housekeeping 👍🏼

peak folio
teal iron
#

i think they're all clickbait, or use AI, or both

peak folio
#

The world we live in.

teal iron
#

I am not sifting through 3 paragraphs of MACHINE SLOP

glad needle
solid sun
peak folio
#

Alright, let’s make a deal, no reading no takes.

solid sun
#

No

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Give me thumbnails that actually contain info so I get the topic at a glance

teal iron
solid sun
#

I won't be silenced. I will have my opinion and eat my words too. Wait thats not what that means

solid sun
cloud plover
#

I hate that there's not one with a monitor and a cellphone on a kickstand.

peak folio
sacred mango
#

Roblox?
Fortnite?

peak folio
#

Those black hole games all the kids play

deep idol
glad needle
#

Sad fact: ||most of the real-life racehorses that inspired Umamusume are dead||

neat iron
sonic fog
#

lol

worldly ivy
#

What kind of flag do pirates put up for Christmas?

||A Holly Jolly Roger||

glad needle
deep idol
#

Here is something mind-blowing for us science guys and amateur astronomers: Two different types of nova in a single event!

simple aurora
zinc depot
rustic basin
#

kids under 13 are now banned from being allowed to play roblox

#

i made this up

solid sun
#

The vertical is great for document writing and other stuff.

glad needle
rustic basin
jaunty kraken
simple aurora
dim nymph
simple aurora
#

Rivals is doing a lot of things OW didn't have.

solid sun
simple aurora
peak folio
#

More specifically, hardware spending was down a whopping 27% year-over-year to $695 million, the lowest hardware spending total for November since 2005's $455 million. Even worse, unit sales reached 1.6 million, which is the lowest November total since 1995's 1.4 million.

And that's representative of declines across the board. Xbox Series hardware sales were down 70% year-over-year. PS5 sales were down over 40%, and combined unit sales of Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 were down over 10% from Switch sales last year, despite this being a launch year for the Nintendo Switch 2.

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Again, US specific

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Even though PS5 outsold everybody else in November they’re still down quite a bit from last nov

#

Nintendo took the smallest hit compared to last year because they had new hardware, but they still sold more Switch 1’s last november than 1 & 2 combined this November.

#

Switch 2 is still the fastest selling console in history since launch, though.

tranquil obsidian
#

switch 2 sounds like a "anyone who wanted one has one" situation

peak folio
#

In the US there’s plenty of availability and they’re still selling despite the industry wide pullback.

#

If they were the only ones that receded y-o-y it would be another story.

#

November is a big holiday month but apparently the market shrunk.

solid sun
#

unless a console breaks, they aren't going to get people to buy a 2nd device, most of the time, so number go down is to be expected.

viral frost
#

It should have been me

#

Not him

cloud plover
#

My boss just doesn't know how bad he fucked the schedule up this week.

We were going to do job A today, job B tomorrow, job C Wednesday, and then be off Thursday and Friday because Christmas. But nooooo. He showed up this morning and decided he wanted to do Job B today, yeah? So we drive to the supply house to pick stuff up.....except they don't have it. Delivery doesn't run until this evening. We weren't supposed to pick it up until tomorrow, so or course they didn't have it ready to go out today. So now he's all mad. Except now we've already got too far out to get started on Job A, that were supposed to do today. So now even if we do get started on it, we won't be able to finish and will have to do it tomorrow anyway. Now he's talking about having to come in Friday and "catch up" because he fucked up the schedule.

Lol nope.

bleak crater
peak folio
#

Good thing PC hardware is totally reasonably priced.

bleak crater
#

It's not, but at least PC games can run on ANY hardware, not a specific console.

peak folio
#

Well certainly not any hardware…

bleak crater
#

Certain games do have certain minimums, but even cheap PCs (as in, console-priced) are really good nowadays

#

Hell, soon we'll even have the Steam Machine, which is sn incredibly cheap but powerful computer made specifically for games.

peak folio
#

I wouldn’t be surprised if that thing came out at like a thousand bucks.

bleak crater
#

While you need great hardware for 4K 120Hz, most games are perfectly playable at 720p 24Hz

bleak crater
peak folio
#

Valve literally never said that.

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It would be funny if they simply bought up the XBSX chips that Microsoft can’t sell.

bleak crater
peak folio
#

People got extremely hyped because valve has a lot of glazers, but the most official thing I heard on the matter is that it will be priced like a mid range PC and not like a console (which are cheaper)

#

This was before the OpenAI nonsense iirc

bleak crater
#

Huh

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Well whatever, the extra price is for buying an actual computer that can run stuff that isn't Steam games.

peak folio
#

I don’t expect the balance of power to change because of one bad month unless they release HL3 or something.

teal iron
#

24HZ IS FOR THE FILM INDUSTRY

peak folio
#

-# ||It’s also why movie theaters cause headaches||

peak folio
#

Regarding Clair Obscur - We believe sometimes we have to pick our battles. A few placeholder assets that were immediately patched out does not make an entire game AI slop.
︀︀
︀︀Our account is about recognizing, appreciating and highlighting the strengths of human creativity. If a game is 99.99% a human crafted labor of love, we do not believe 0.01% of GenAI (if it even qualifies as that much) is worth slandering the entire game over.
︀︀
︀︀Doing that gives permission to AI Boosters to do what they do best - take credit for things they had no hand in. They now take a game that was 99.99% a human crafted labor of love and say "Look at the power of GenAI to make these incredible games possible" when it had no meaningful impact at all.
︀︀
︀︀Obviously we would all always prefer it wasn't used, and the internet is not a place that handles nuance well. But please keep this in mind for the future. We do not believe in witch hunts or hate directed at the ha…

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…We do not believe in witch hunts or hate directed at the hard work of artists or developers.🫖

bleak crater
bleak crater
peak folio
#

Theaters work a lot differently, I’m not gonna spell it out.

tranquil obsidian
#

though i can see it also being a case of "well if we're going to get accused anyway, we may as well use it"

peak folio
#

It was disqualified the IGA award from a technicality, which at the end of the day are the rules, but the game definitely isn’t slop. Chillet_hee

night plume
#

Reading what y'all have sent, I agree with the disqualification due to/if they lied about it.

peak folio
#

They didn’t really lie about it as far as I can tell, that’s just reddit putting words in their mouths.

#

The statement said what happened.

tranquil obsidian
#

basically, they did the equivalent of using getty images to fill a gap that was going to be replaced later when the art was finished;

they missed one of the placeholders but replaced it immediately once they raised

dusk quartz
#

As long as AI is only used for extremely minor things and that most of the work was done by a human, chill, I can tolerate its usage, but of course it's better if it was used as little as possible. Point being, I'm not going to throw a fit if AI was only used in the concept stage of a game.

teal iron
#

As someone whose GAMING PC THAT DOES EVERYTHING can only run a lot of games at 20-40fps, no, 24hz is absolutely unacceptable

night plume
tranquil obsidian
#

it was literally just a placeholder image that got replaced, but people are acting like they asked Chatgpt to write the whole game

teal iron
#

Saying 24hz is acceptable is like saying the peasants can live by eating stale bread during a medieval seige

teal iron
#

Just because you survived does not mean the operating conditions were outside of justifiable parameters

night plume
#

If it is bread made with grains of that time they can.
Bread made with current grains, they would be dead pretty quickly

night plume
dusk quartz
#

Stale bread tastes like gravel, chill

teal iron
#

Also implicitly that there is actually better food available and that it is perfectly fine to not share it

night plume
#

And stuffing

#

Now I want stuffing o.o

dusk quartz
#

I love stuffing, chillruru

#

It's the only part of a Thanksgiving dinner that I really care for, chill, yes I'm boring I know

night plume
#

Everyone has their favorites

teal iron
#

Yeah they can survive but it is unacceptable to degrade their quality of living so much

night plume
#

I love a good stuffing

#

I should have chosen better words xD
Can't stop laughing now

dusk quartz
#

This years stuffing was not that great though, chill, but you can't win 'em all

teal iron
#

24hz is absolutely not good enough for any game that isn't like
Old school pokemon

dusk quartz
#

Anyway, chill...

teal iron
#

Or final fantasy

dusk quartz
#

60hz>30hz>24hz, chill, simple as

night plume
#

I didn't make any this year. Meant to get a bag to just have that. But forgot. If the stores still have some, I may get some.

dusk quartz
#

It's mathematically logical, chillruru

teal iron
peak folio
#

N64 framerates

dusk quartz
#

There is this thing called evolution of technology, chill

peak folio
#

Pixio has a $600 240hz OLED monitor. Still
money but at least not like $1000. It sparks curiosity…

sick flame
neat iron
#

if only they could make 1080p oleds

peak folio
#

Pretty sure they’re a thing, though that’s a weird choice for anyone not into esports

neat iron
#

why would i need more than 1080p

#

(unless tv)

peak folio
solid sun
solid sun
sick flame
teal iron
brittle delta
tranquil obsidian
#

ive seen people claim its edited, but definitely predates AI.

its easy to forget that humans can edit videos too

peak folio
#

||or just drop carrots||

tranquil obsidian
#

thats how id have done it =p its so easy to do i dont get why youd need to edit it

#

when the gamecube came out, i had to go buy a new tv because my current TV wasnt 60hz compatible.

#

games could run in 50hz, but it was very obvious they werent meant to, lmao.

#

by about the wii era, 60hz became the standard (though EU was more accurate to 59, hence the term "PAL60" as opposed to 60

#

once we hit the HDMI era, everything basicaly became standardised

peak folio
#

What region are you?

tranquil obsidian
#

UK

#

(PAL)

peak folio
#

Ah okay yeah

#

Both were progressive scan if I’m remembering correctly

tranquil obsidian
#

sonic 1's marble zone (PAL version) sounds like the drunk edition of the song lol

peak folio
#

In the US, NTSC was 30fps at 60hz because it was interlaced, but each “field” was still staggered.

#

so even though it was 60 fields per second, two fields made a frame.

#

It was just how they compressed the signal in analog.

#

But if there was any game slowdown at all the sprites would flicker like crazy because the fields didn’t match up anymore.

solid sun
#

might've been 50 then

bleak crater
tranquil obsidian
#

theyre always aggresive

peak folio
leaden nova
night plume
#

That was the first song to hit that many views? O.o

peak folio
#

The first youtube video of any kind to hit that, ig

#

There’s no article linked

#

-# It’s frying my brain that it’s been 13 years, wtf

tranquil obsidian
#

welcome to old

hearty sonnet
#

I think that was around the same time as all the cringy "Call me maybe" videos

astral breach
astral breach
#

Thanks. Didn't know it had a cat-like tail.

#

Almost thought it was a new pal lol

hearty sonnet
#

I don't remember it having a tail either, but I also forget Swee exists most times

astral breach
#

I forgot its name. Had to literally look up.

#

Only remember the visual loosely

#

And that the name started with sw lol

solid sun
hearty sonnet
dusk quartz
#

"Mm watcha sayy", chill

hearty sonnet
solid sun
#

I auto turn it off without even thinking

night plume
#

I miss demotivational posters being a thing.

zinc depot
#

That was a thing?

dusk quartz
#

We don't need demotivational posters in this day and age, chill

solid sun
#

Maybe we fo

#

But maybe we are not worth it anymore to deserve them

night plume
#

Doctor offices were fill of those landscape motiviational posters and then people started making demotivational posters. They made me laugh, especially when a new place opened in town and they didn't check what they were ordering for wall art xD

hearty sonnet
#

I want one of those "hang in there kitty" posters, but instead, it says "give up & fall"

peak folio
tranquil obsidian
unborn mauve
leaden nova
storm cypress
#

"buy it overpriced here, before scalpers make you pay more"

zinc depot
#

What's a fomo?

night plume
#

FOMO - Fear of missing out

zinc depot
#

🤔

night plume
#

It is a ploy of making something available limited time or cheaper for a limited time to get people to jump on buying it before they miss the item or the "once in a lifetime" sale

zinc depot
#

I conquer that fear with IDGAF

peak folio
#

I think they made a lot more mario kart bundles than initially planned, but the current bundle is Pokemon

night plume
#

I conquer it with, "I am too cheap for that" sydrome

peak folio
#

I just like the last video tour of Pocketpair HQ with all the vinebooms when he saw the Switch 2 in their setup.

hardy hearth
#

anyone else eating kiwi with skin?

hearty sonnet
empty grail
#

Depends

#

Hardy kiwi/kiwi berries yes

cloud plover
empty grail
#

@leaden nova kiwi bird

leaden nova
empty grail
#

Fair

zinc depot
zinc depot
#

Get the hell outta here

#

Mooooods

night plume
#

That was a pain to report

zinc depot
#

It was pain to read

night plume
#

I "red" a small part of it and instantly reported

zinc depot
#

You are too late for my editing wizardy

long shard
#

scam alert in palworld general!

zinc depot
#

Relax, nobody will actually do it

night plume
#

Psh, people are messaging that person like crazy thinking they will get nudes

zinc depot
#

erm

#

It's a crypto scheme

#

That isn't hot singles in your local area

night plume
#

I know what it is and I meant what I said

zinc depot
#

|You must be joking

long shard
#

where da mods at

night plume
#

Probably busy atm. Can't expext them to be free at all times.

long shard
#

ight

zinc depot
#

How bloody thirsty can you get?, you can google nudes and literally get some

long shard
#

-# hrk

zinc depot
#

I don't know why anyone would message a random discord account

#

Asking for trouble

night plume
#

I've met many. With how easy it is to get stuff I don't understand the desperation and stupidity

long shard
#

i'm still young.

zinc depot
#

It's like walking down a dark alley at night which has rubbish being burned in a bin, if you meet anyone there it's not going to be a good thing

night plume
#

But that is how we get Batman o.o

zinc depot
#

That was outside a movie theatre

night plume
#

In the alley!

#

They walked out of the side door into the alley and Batman was born!

zinc depot
#

Batman is a tragedy

night plume
#

No argument there

zinc depot
#

Pounding the crap out of criminals isn't much of a life

humble parrot
full mountain
#

Yeah, oof

#

Rest in peace

worldly ivy
#

Can I just say that one intersection in front of the 109 Building in Japan has seen so much shit across fiction

solid sun
solid sun
#

that insects or stones don't have a pulse and ppl still want to befriend those

glad needle
#

Wait, people want to actually have a pet rock?!

#

Just get a fox!

solid sun
#

I mean what are Japanese Zen stone gardens, if not a lot of pet rocks that you rake through.

glad needle
#

Foxes are much better pets, more affectionate

maiden narwhal
#

Rocks don’t request. Rocks don’t need maintenance. Rocks won’t hurt your feelings. Rocks won’t stink up the bed 💩

glad needle
#

Rocks are cold, they’re not living, they dont snuggle

maiden narwhal
#

Rocks don’t eat. Rocks don’t need expensive immunizations

glad needle
#

Cats, dogs, foxes, deer are way better pets

#

Basically any mammal

zinc depot
#

In short, stones can look pretty, be very hard and cold, one misstep with them around they will trip you up and ruin your day

peak folio
#

-# ||You good, Arkveld?||

jaunty kraken
astral breach
odd mesa
peak folio
#

That looks very difficult to maintain

#

Freaking epic

lofty wind
peak folio
#

It’s probably gonna get pulled apart in a hundred places

#

And it’s white

lofty wind
#

if the seams are bad which i dont think they would be, yeah

peak folio
#

I guess just don’t give it to a kid

lofty wind
#

the white is indeed funny though, almost anything will make a stain

lofty wind
peak folio
#

Mass produced will fall apart faster.

#

Despite the relative simplicity.

lofty wind
#

at that point its more for the lower cost of replacement

#

anyways,,,,,,,

#

my wallet yells at me when i even think about it, however Eventually^TM

#

they weighted it to be ~9lb iirc

peak folio
#

At least mizutsune doesn’t have those chains

lofty wind
#

i absolutely intend on an arkveld at some point assuming i have the space

#

and several other things from media franchise number 3

peak folio
#

Spot clean only, I bet

lofty wind
#

thats already what i do with all of mine, even though im pretty sure some are machine washable

peak folio
#

Just imagine Arkveld getting caught under the agitator. mono_nooooo

lofty wind
#

death

#

maybe i should have something from the vidya series number four, though the things from there are unusual to the point where im not sure most would/could make them

#

where did my images group chat go

peak folio
#

life size gog

lofty wind
#

silly

sick flame
astral breach
copper inlet
peak folio
peak folio
cloud plover
#

Who?

peak folio
bleak crater
#

Hmmm, we should all use trams.

#

I was late to my train because cars were driving extremely slowly in the rain, while my tram had the ability to go faster.

zinc depot
#

That is lunacy

bleak crater
#

How?

#

Public transport is far superior than thousands of monkeys riding thousands of tanks around

night plume
#

At least the monkies are only riding and not driving the tanks. Could you imagine the chaos that would ensue?

zinc depot
#

Public transport sucks

#

It really sucks

night plume
#

Don't have the option in my area

bleak crater
zinc depot
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Bruh, trams only move ina set route, nobody could work without a car

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Your idea is dumb

bleak crater
zinc depot
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💀

bleak crater
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So people would indeed be able to work. Just like I do.
I go everywhere by public transport.

zinc depot
bleak crater
# zinc depot 💀

Is the public transport in your city that bad? Do you really get suprised by this?

bleak crater
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I meant driving, not riding.

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teal iron
zinc depot
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I couldn't run my decorating business out of a damnable tram lmao

rough fractal
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You're all amazing

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rough fractal
night plume
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The Quackening will soon be upon us

peak folio
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glad needle
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Private car ownership is always superior, private ownership is always best, just ignore the anti ownership propaganda

teal iron
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?

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I mean, rail and air are quite efficient

mental summit
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“Why aren’t people just transporting large numbers of objects overseas one small boat at a time over multiple trips? Don’t they know private ownership is always best?”

Now just replace objects with people who need somewhere to be and suddenly the subway system in cities starts to make a lot more sense

leaden nova
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I really wish more cities had electric wire trolleys like in CA/TN that actually go places on time and look nice, unfortunately not the case for most cities

teal iron
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I mean, cars are pretty neat but like, cities and towns (literally anywhere you are within 2 miles of another house) function better if the majority of people use public transit for the majority of their transportation

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And the only reason cars seem necessary and important is because our cities are (badly) engineered with that express goal

leaden nova
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high crime areas near workplaces also suck as far as work commutes but that's part of a bigger issue too

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If pub transport worked well you'd pretty much only need a car for if you use it for work or long distance trips, or maybe if you're getting frozen groceries and need to get home asap (which is then actually possible from less cars)

bleak crater
glad needle
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Id rather own my vehicle

bleak crater
bleak crater
# glad needle Id rather own my vehicle

But why? What's the benefit?
You have to learn to drive it, you can't do other stuff while driving it, you have to maintain it, etc.
It's so much of a hassle.

glad needle
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It’s easier for the government to control you when you don’t own the vehicle you use for travel

leaden nova
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I prefer both, occasional car use, but primarily local transport. I feel it's imperative to be able to get somewhere you need to be in an actual emergency or even for personal reasons. Just please, death to commutes

bleak crater
bleak crater
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Plus, you're saying they could manipulate me... how? By changing my route?

bleak crater
barren sierra
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There is little neeed for personal vehicles in Croatia, the public transport in towns is superb

glad needle
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Governments have tried to control where the people go on many occasions, what better way to do that than pushing public transportation and eliminating private owned cars

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Personal cars are freedom

full mountain
bleak crater
glad needle
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It’s that shrimple

full mountain
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With how America and it's cities are set up, of course car ownership is gonna be more beneficial to yourself. But the idea of public transport is to make everything much more available to everyone, along with being alot more environmentally friendly because not alot of waste is exhausted from a bus compared to like, 20 different fuckin f150s

bleak crater
full mountain
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Ya get it now?

bleak crater
full mountain
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Alot dumb fucks on the road... Including you

bleak crater
peak folio
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Public transportation in the US is notoriously very very bad.

bleak crater
full mountain
full mountain
glad needle
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Around here, anyone who has a choice, is always going to drive their personal vehicle

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Whether it’s a car, truck or motorcycle

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And the motorcycles are the cheapest vehicles to buy and own on every level

glad needle
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Everything about them is more affordable

peak folio
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Somebody at work sometimes commutes with this three wheeler Polaris

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One wheel in the back basically makes it classify as a motorcycle.

bleak crater
glad needle
bleak crater
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?????
That's SO stupid.
They're completely different vehicles.

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Please get better laws I can't even imagine a motorcyclist driving a truck 🙏

peak folio
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Semi trucks need different licenses but most anything smaller than that is fine with a class D license

glad needle
bleak crater
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There's a difference between freedom and driving a several ton machine that can wreck buildings without the proper knowledge.
The latter is just severe neglect.

bleak crater
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Where I'm from, we've got much more licenses.

glad needle
peak folio
bleak crater
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Roughly... 12 TONS????

peak folio
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That’s not a semi tractor ofc

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It has to classify as a passenger vehicle.

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Which does include moving trucks.

teal iron
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You either drive a car or permutation thereof, or you don't get to go anywhere

full mountain
# glad needle We enjoy freedom in America

Listen, I'm gonna bow out of this convo because I'm genuinely getting upset, but I just wanted you to know that you really do this to yourself whenever you say dumb shit like this. You are not at all interested in having a discussion about these kinda things, you simply want to seek validation and re-enforcement your own made up thoughts and set in values.

I will no longer be entertaining that.

peak folio
tranquil obsidian
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i bowed out a while back but for other reasons

bleak crater
peak folio
full mountain
glad needle
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He’s actually a great guy

bleak crater
tranquil obsidian
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wrong reply?

bleak crater
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Hmm, that sounded weird. But it's correct. I WILL entertain this!

full mountain
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I have a bit of history with over protector, I'll admit, but I'll leave it there, no need to be all dramatic in main

glad needle
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Im really sorry

peak folio
maiden narwhal
cloud plover
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Let's fucking gooooo

simple aurora
solid sun