off-topic

[potent stratus]

Americans....

[teal iron]

See this is the problematic mindset

First it's the calendar, then it's favorite color, and the next thing you know the year is 1984

[solid sun]

that was 40 years ago

[icy pecan]

Here I am

[potent stratus]

I am also here

[solid sun]

are you that one and only american

[icy pecan]

I am

[rancid oxide]

lol time is an abstract human creation anyway

[potent stratus]

I'm a human creation :<

[icy pecan]

No

Gods creations even time

[hasty cairn]

they're THE american

you wouldn't get it. . .

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jo-funny-valentine-american-flag-gif-14923362

[icy pecan]

Ah the original 13

I'm part of the original

[potent stratus]

crazy

[icy pecan]

Well I live in one of the original 13 states idk if I have heritage to be part of the 13

[potent stratus]

lies

you are the original from the 13

you were there

[rancid oxide]

bro is chris

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/aslan-i-was-there-when-it-was-written-the-chronicles-of-narnia-narnia-lion-gif-21389732

[potent stratus]

I thought of chris from resdient evil for a sec 💀

[hasty cairn]

FR?

are you just like valentine?

OH WAIT IT MAKES SENSE

you do have a lot of guns, as the founding father's intended

[icy pecan]

I have a lot of ammo to

[hasty cairn]

can we shoot together this xmas

[icy pecan]

If you say Christmas maybe

[hasty cairn]

chrimmas

[solid sun]

I made you

thus you're a dragon

[rancid oxide]

💀

[fickle trout]

Hey people

[rancid oxide]

elloo

[jaunty kraken]

Wrong, you're a fox!

[idle sparrow]

Is there anywhere you can donate to pocketpair for the lawsuit? I don't want to buy a million gift copies on steam cuz 1.) Valve gets a big cut and 2.) It could actually work against pocketpair if they lose

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[vale harness]

can we say anything here

since its off topic?

[icy pecan]

No it needs to be on topic

[vale harness]

WHY IS ITS NAME OFF TOPIC

[icy pecan]

Yeah you can say anything within the rules of the server

[vale harness]

what are those

i didnt read

[icy pecan]

#rules

[vale harness]

yea just read them

so

can cuss

[icy pecan]

Hell yeah

[vale harness]

YEAAA

[hearty sonnet]

Hell damn piss

[hidden flume]

First of all.. Merry Smissmas! Secondly! With the update came Randomizer in the way off seeds.
I cant find anywhere to share seeds that are neat.. so any suggestions on where one can share it?
(side note: writing 'IWANTBLAZAMUT' without the '' in the seed makes Boss Blazamut spawn in the Mammorest's place in the starting area ^^)

[hearty sonnet]

Lmao is this true?

What level is the Blazamut?

Or is that also random?

[jaunty kraken]

"Merry Smissmas"
TF2 fan, i see

[hardy hearth]

Daily aviation fact chat.

Every second you're not running I'm getting closer.

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaaaaaaa-gif-24637156

[solid sun]

I doubt this, because that would mean you bother chasing.

and if I don't run, you can't chase me

[broken ravine]

Hey? Do ability glasses so a pals passive? I wanna search for a specific ability? Do I just have to catch them or am I using the glasses wrong

[teal iron]

We should make a thread in #palworld-general I think

[broken ravine]

Anyone?…

[icy pecan]

No just IVs

[jaunty kraken]

If you're talking about those glasses that existed before Feybreak then they are to see a Pal's IVs
If you're talking about anything added on Feybreak then I don't know

[broken ravine]

Is there anyway to see ability’s?

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-run-duck-run-duck-running-running-duck-gif-7950668956099519229

[icy pecan]

Unless you mod the game I don't think so

[exotic dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757979792057565227/1321216198083346463/image0.gif?ex=676c6df8&is=676b1c78&hm=f1e784e368ed860b329ab90a2e0c1f5c1b3db51d243f6f55556bff99b446e6a7&

[jaunty kraken]

Like active skills (attack moves), passive abilities, partner skills, or something from the update?

[broken ravine]

I thought ability glasses showed ABILITYS. Not stats

How do you get the summer chillet? The update said it came back

[icy pecan]

Build a pal showcase thing in base

[trim radish]

Hi there I have a few questions!
I may not be new to Paul world (level 60) but I am new to Co-op and the discord.

-How hard is it to find a few players to join your guild? I have a couple great farming base set ups
-where all can I post about recruiting?
-any tips for Co-op would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks😊

[frozen bluff]

#pal-lfg-multiplayer is going to be the best channel to look for recruiting/friends/anything else related to co-op and multiplayer!

I can't imagine it would be particularly tough to find people

[icy pecan]

Paulworld

[teal iron]

What is Paul world

[humble parrot]

German translation

[teal iron]

Is it really

[icy pecan]

Philworld

[trim radish]

Damn autocorrect 😆 🤦‍♀️

[teal iron]

Too late
You're going to a world of middle aged dudes with uh

Idk stereotypes

[icy pecan]

Mid life crisis so they all have corvettes

[potent stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/a-racoon-helps-to-decorate-the-christmas-tree-viralhog-a-raccoon-lends-a-hand-decorating-the-christmas-tree-racoon-gif-9434753981993224498

@jaunty kraken

[olive seal]

I have one of those daily

[jaunty kraken]

Merry Christmas folks!

[clever jungle]

I love paulworld :)

[north thicket]

nope

[potent stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/vulpix-pokemon-cute-christmas-socks-gifts-gif-17005694

merry christmas

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/bucky_cm/status/1871707227155017845

[tranquil obsidian]

just hit christmas here

[tranquil obsidian]

"i dont need a speical day to be merry" =p

[icy pecan]

Paulworld

[hearty sonnet]

Paul gives so much & asks so little in return

Paul gave us a whole world

[icy pecan]

[neon goblet]

Lol, my friend who loves pokemon is critiquing all of the palworld designs lol rn

[hearty sonnet]

Why am I not surprised?

[neon goblet]

We're having fun with it lol, I love Palworld but I love my friend as well

[hearty sonnet]

Here is my critique of Pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-60dollar-nintendo-game-pokemon-animation-twinkle-tackle-pokemon-game-gif-25808020

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/MiddleearthMixr/status/1871632377967223188

[neon goblet]

Funny thing is that even they hate the lawsuit 😭

[icy pecan]

[hearty sonnet]

Yeah cuz it's f@!#ing dumb haha, I'm glad they also disagree with it.

I don't hate Nintendo & I've been a Pokemon fan since I was 5 (which is also when Pokemon released) but I'm very disappointed with them these days

[night plume]

Playing Palworld.
Decided to start a new world for the new update.
Left base without making the parachute.
Told myself, I'll head to the nearest statue, teleport back, and make it then, that way the trip out of base isn't wasted.

Not even 10 seconds after decided this, I jump off a mountain and try to parachute....

[grand falcon]

I mean, you can give criticism and still like something

For example

Majority of the flying pals, can't land which I absolutely hate

Don't mean I hate palworld or think palworld is dumb

[brazen storm]

I'm a Pokémon fan and I also critique the Pal designs but I still love both

I also criticize Pokémon. A LOT.

I think it's a show of love to know so much about something that you can identify and admit that it is flawed

[grand falcon]

Idk why people think criticizing something automatically means you hate it or something

[full mountain]

Yeah, nothings perfect, even your favorite thing has issues

Like the PIDF soilder, cute af, but man could he use a career change...

[neon goblet]

The PIDF 😭😭 I can only see it as the palworld IDF 😭😭😭

[full mountain]

Nah these guys just defend the cute palz

Those other guys are the yucky ones, eww

[teal iron]

Yeah must suck getting bodied by random pal tamers with violent jetragons

[brazen storm]

But I don't want him to change careers. I want him to be a cute little soldier forever!

[full mountain]

...

PIDF soilder is the only blue life that matters, dats the most I'll say

[brazen storm]

Bombing Palestine 😭💀💢🤮

Bombing Pals 🥰😍🫡💕

[glad needle]

Gimme a proper police force

[full mountain]

God no

[glad needle]

I have too much respect for police officers

I’ll gladly take a non-corrupt police force

[full mountain]

WHO ASKED
sorry force of habit

[glad needle]

Blue Lives Matter

[full mountain]

non-corrupt
police
Pick one

Battle music intensifies

[brazen storm]

ACAB: All Cops Are Beautiful

[glad needle]

Whenever I meet someone who hates cops, I tell em to call a crackhead next time they need help

[glad needle]

Damn straight!

[brazen storm]

Let's be real. Going to jail would be HILARIOUS in Palworld

[icy yoke]

All Kevin’s are beautiful

[neon goblet]

Based

[full mountain]

I hate violence and confrontation, but if I gotta defend myself I will. Just because I'm critical of something and "hate it" doesn't mean I'm not gonna use what I have.

Imma drop this because I was just joking around, I suggest you do the same before someone gets called a dumbass

[hasty cairn]

that's insane

[glad needle]

Oh, ok, hard to tell who’s joking or not

[brazen storm]

As the Fairy type's strongest soldier, Twinkle Tackle makes me unbelievably angry

[hearty sonnet]

Yeah it's pretty bad lol

[fickle trout]

Hi people!

[icy pecan]

All y'all who yell cops don't deserve any respect are the same ones who will call 911 when someone breaks in asking for police cause your afraid for you life's cops have to be violent to fight violence
Yeah there are corrupt cops but there is also corrupt doctors in the world so

[fickle trout]

😄

[hasty cairn]

hello russian

[fickle trout]

How are you?

And my name isn't Russian lol.

[hasty cairn]

besides the headache, i'm okay

[fickle trout]

You can call me Fangirl XD

[hasty cairn]

hbu?

[fickle trout]

I'm bored to death.

[icy pecan]

Can I call you XD instead?

[fickle trout]

A server got rude because I said the chat was currently boring because no one was chatting

[full mountain]

Yeah, I hate the system, not every single individual in that system

[fickle trout]

No other server is talking to me rn but this one

[hasty cairn]

they decided to bite your head off for that?

[hearty sonnet]

Sounds like a moody server lol

[fickle trout]

Yeah

[hasty cairn]

damn, weird server

[fickle trout]

I hate that it's not Christmas yet

Because then everyone can throw me the mean comment basically saying 'Just because you're not busy doesn't mean others aren't! Fuck off!'

[icy pecan]

It's Christmas eve tho

[hasty cairn]

we're almost there

[fickle trout]

To others it's Christmas already

[icy pecan]

Timezones

[fickle trout]

Even if it means being early morning

[icy pecan]

Every country has 24 hours

[fickle trout]

When people say stuff like this to me it's the same as saying 'Just because you don't have a life doesn't mean we don't' and I fucking hate those people

[hasty cairn]

I feel like it's uncalled for

[fickle trout]

It's an insult to me because people used to say it all the time

I just want someone to chat with and that crap is all I get 😩

These people are why I'm not gonna touch discord tomorrow

[brazen storm]

In their defense I'd give you some snark but I wouldn't say something mean like you mentioned earlier

[hasty cairn]

yeah same

or just ignore, I guess?

it's really uncalled for to be an ass like that XD

[fickle trout]

Ignoring things is too uncomfortable for me to do

[full mountain]

Anyways, I'll admit I got carried away trolling Fluffy, but anyways yeeee, agree to disagree and stuff

[fickle trout]

So I never have been able to ignore anything

[brazen storm]

Nah I don't care lol we good

[hasty cairn]

sometimes blocking is a good option

[fickle trout]

I do that too, but only when they make me feel like I'm being attacked or something

I don't just block because people are being stupid. I block because they're being too hurtful

[brazen storm]

I don't block people even if I'm fighting them unless I unironically see them as a threat to me or society

[fickle trout]

I shouldn't block anyone anyway the next few days

[hasty cairn]

I usually block people if they're eager to pick a fight with random people just for attention

[fickle trout]

Because I'm just gonna unblock them on the 1st

[full mountain]

Nah I mean gettin into it wif the others for a sec there, but yeee praise to da PIDF soilder he cute

[fickle trout]

I plan to unblock all people I've blocked and give them a chance to forget they hated me

[teal iron]

I don't remember making you my strongest soldier...

[brazen storm]

You didn't. I made myself your strongest soldier. In secret. On my own accord.

[hasty cairn]

I forgive, not forget, I don't think I'll ever unlock people lmao

[teal iron]

i see...

[hasty cairn]

sometimes I don't even forgive

[brazen storm]

Incredibly dangerous of you but good luck dawg

[potent stratus]

Hey cutie

[fickle trout]

I can't forgive people unless they're nice to me at some point honestly. I'm too full of hate to just let people go

[hasty cairn]

hi gorgeous

[fickle trout]

I hate the world.

[hasty cairn]

nah, it's better to let go

[fickle trout]

I can't because I don't know how

[hasty cairn]

some people aren't even worth the time

[fickle trout]

If I was told how it would help

[brazen storm]

"Forgive not because they deserve forgiveness, but because you deserve peace."

[teal iron]

I don't wanna sound preachy but you really should figure out how

Trust me, it's way better for your health

[fickle trout]

But no. Everyone always says 'Figure everything out yourself' which now is also an insult.

[teal iron]

I definitely would've just popped like a balloon by 21 if I hadn't learned to let go

[fickle trout]

I don't even know how to learn

[teal iron]

Just
POP
POFF

POP

[potent stratus]

I'll be worth your time

[fickle trout]

I can't just forget or forgive or anything

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/balloon-red-pop-red-balloon-balloon-pop-gif-14215847981022416867

sorry that was a little too descriptive

anyway I can't really tell you, that's something a therapist is better qualified to instruct you on

[hasty cairn]

thank you ♥

i'll be worth yours

bee has a point

[full mountain]

PoV: you're a 000 dart monkey at the entrance of monkey meadows

[brazen storm]

Letting go should come naturally and with time. They're out of your life, so focus on things in the present and the future to take your mind off of them. Distract yourself from your anger by doing what you love with the people you love.

[hasty cairn]

if prima didn't learn how to deal with their shit

they'd become a bloon

[brazen storm]

At least, that's what helped me get over it

[hasty cairn]

insanium

[potent stratus]

Not Bloons

[hasty cairn]

funny manke game

[rancid oxide]

what

are u people talking about forgiving?

[hasty cairn]

no, we're talking about bloons

[rancid oxide]

monke pop go brr

[hasty cairn]

hell ye

[rancid oxide]

literally top ten game of time

[teal iron]

time ain't no game, boy

it's a cruel mistress, one that will turn all the constructs of man to dust without a care, not a concern, I say

[hasty cairn]

man don't let them ruin your btd6 mindset

[rancid oxide]

i never said what game i was referring to

[grand falcon]

Nah, just tell them to replace "cops" with any other group of people, see what they think

[grand falcon]

Statistically, majority of cops are good

If i remember right, it's only less then 1% of cops that are "bad"

[olive seal]

@hearty sonnet , marry Christmas! Hope you enjoy your day 🎅. Love ya!

[hearty sonnet]

Thanks & Merry Christmas to you also

I hope it's merry af

[olive seal]

I’d ping more mods but I feel like I will get a mute so marry Christmas mods and staff of pocketpair too!

@potent stratus , @hasty cairn marry Christmas to yall too 💙

[stray vigil]

Merry Christmas everyone, happy holiday 🎄🎁🎅🏻

[rancid oxide]

merry christmas guys, happy holidays
remember that you are loved and there is always someone who loves you

[lofty wind]

merry christmas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274000247835721779/1321320183515582464/VID_20241224_2215285042.mp4?ex=676cced0&is=676b7d50&hm=bf04057c4fe6c003d911aa0a0f165a62a851963ded2f02366b0c8b3d02c4ed45&

[olive seal]

Finally Santa upgraded

[grand falcon]

Oh god.......I just got a free game......and there's a damn "fear meter"........I think I got tricked into playing a horror game and I don't know what to expect.....

[neon goblet]

Merry Christmas y'all!!!

[obsidian beacon]

Merry Christmas!!

[narrow briar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1246527911977160777/1320972062407397417/2024_Christmas_Themed_Pic.png?ex=676cdc1a&is=676b8a9a&hm=c2d7b7430d9512b59feded41d5a3072cf5c239512ef62980962d820d89a553e6&

[flint garden]

Merry Christmas 🎅

[rough fractal]

Merry chrismas

[sour mica]

THE CHILLETS WERE DOING THE TOOTHLESS DANCE FROM CAS VAN DE POL

[true delta]

pls put chillet dance in game

[solid sun]

use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcdRqoPfm8

[north thicket]

Morning yall

[jaunty kraken]

The music used in the original Toothless Dance is from Pokémon (Driftveil City)
Well played PocketPair, well played

[hardy atlas]

I could see this being a new thing the pals do. dancing would be pretty fun. maybe they'll add a party feature from terraria in the oncoming update

[solid sun]

it's not pocket pair, it's by Arshe

[hardy atlas]

there is a decoration item in terraria sold by the party girl that allows you to throw parties at will. maybe pocketpair could add the same decoration, but make it make the base pals dance until night time

[solid sun]

many of the animations are commissioned by PocketPair from Arshe.

[hardy atlas]

I hope Chillet is added to terraria. I don't cre if chillet is a pet, mount, or sommon, I just want chillet in the game

[silk gull]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[humble parrot]

Morning

[vale harness]

good day and Merry Christmas!!

[icy pecan]

Merry Christmas everyone

[humble parrot]

Merry Christmas

[potent stratus]

Merry Christmas

[sick flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1273013846117843060/1321495822248054784/Screenshot_20241225_161140.jpg?ex=676d7264&is=676c20e4&hm=93c7666e7166d90ab1c44e642175047069081e24a82203146c67dd5379605429&

[rancid oxide]

merry Christmas

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682227584087490573/1321492646786498721/FB_IMG_1735138742014.jpg?ex=676d6f6f&is=676c1def&hm=e4a82a330b6531a16a79e924b3b93647435f6b131cf41d818a560130606d8ceb&

[jaunty kraken]

Its going fishing!

[steady harbor]

how do i get the christmas skins?

and also are they staying forever?

[humble parrot]

You already have them, they are permanent

[steady harbor]

how do i use them though?

i hav a chillet and he is normal

[teal iron]

Build the pal dressing facility, under Pal in the construction menu

[steady harbor]

ah thanks

[dusky compass]

Default skin carp in the bathtub is crazy

[steady harbor]

real

[cosmic flax]

i have arrived

[sick flame]

https://fixupx.com/NVIDIAGeForce/status/1871949161760706975

[leaden heath]

Merry Crimas yall! :pepexmasdance: And happy holidays!

[rustic igloo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971062174510370961/1321478752542392401/VID_20241225_090336_721.mp4?ex=676d627e&is=676c10fe&hm=8be3b9f6553a831c3ecb0f29dcf98404dedfc8b5d3b1a8345a96975ce3e96883&

[solid sun]

Thanks, wish you festive days too.

[solid sun]

Thanks, I wish you wonderful lovely days too.

[ripe forge]

Arf

[peak folio]

https://x.com/migili_m/status/1871501810361651468

みぎり (@migili_m) on X

メリクりざどん⭐️

Twitter · Dec 24, 2024, 10:22 AM

Charizard’s Japanese name is Lizardon (like lizard dragon) so that text named him Merrychrizardon

[torpid gull]

Bruh i think a mod removed my suggestion because someone else bumped it

If this is true then that's double incompetence

[night plume]

If you mean the Ideas And Wishes channel, it is super packed. You have to constantly put your suggestion in and hope you make it into the opening.

[torpid gull]

Yeah but someone said "i bump this" and i can't see it anymore

[night plume]

Discord only allows so many in there, so the mods will try to archive older suggestions after so many days to make room for more.

If your suggestion made it in, you may have to hunt for it because they can get buried fast.

I do see a post by you for a sandbox/creative mode in the ideas and wishes.

[bronze rover]

Is anyone here good with pastry? I've got a question.

[peak folio]

tbh I wouldn’t put it past the mods to assume whoever bumped a suggestion assumed it was the OP and deleted it. There is a non-trivial number of things that get removed when they shouldn’t so that’s par for the course. 😔

[night plume]

I'm okayish with pastry. If it isn't too complex I may be able to answer?

[sick flame]

[mild dew]

Hi All

Does anyone know any solution for the map reset bug? i just lost my entire map and i had everytthing discovered :/

[bronze rover]

I made a glaze for some cinnamon rolls I made for Christmas morning. It's 3 cups powdered sugar, and 3 tbsp each of half & half and heavy cream all blended together. It yields about a cup when finished. It's simple to make, and went well.

I'd like to make that basic glaze into the base for flavored versions of it. Do these quantities sound right to you (choose one of the following) :
1 tbsp of extract-based flavor (vanilla, etc.)
3 tbsp of powder-based flavor (cocoa, etc.)

[night plume]

When you said pastry, I really thought you meant the pastry(dough) portion xD

When it comes to a glaze, I know an extract should be fine adding it bc you aren't increasing the liquid content.

For a powder based flavoring like cocoa powder, I would add and watch as you are adding since you are increasing the dry ingredient.

I hope another appears bc this one is an item I play by ear instead of actual experience. Sorry :/

[bronze rover]

Do those quantities sound like a good start though for that volume of glaze? I was tinkering with this question in an ai chatbot, and those are what it suggested.

[night plume]

When I make a glaze, I slowly add milk to powdered sugar until it is the consistency I need for what I'm doing.

If I were going to make it chocolate, I would mix the cocoa powder in a little at a time and taste it until it is the taste I want.

[bronze rover]

Thanks for the advice.

[peak folio]

Control is free on Epic until tomorrow ||for those who aren’t Epic deranged.|| https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/control

[tranquil obsidian]

"We have inFamous at home"

[broken frigate]

I bought it on steam for sale some days ago.

[peak folio]

If you already own it somewhere then there’s no rush

[potent stratus]

you're welcome and you too

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682227584087490573/1321579090750345299/471259238_122216746190024283_8260452418157089836_n.jpg?ex=676dbff0&is=676c6e70&hm=d94bb44bec5263f0a5cbd6c975cbf620dd90f30bda81d46febd555548a402f52&

[potent stratus]

Looks like my cat salem

[hexed tusk]

Merry Christmas, everyone.

[hexed tusk]

Wowie, he's cute.

[tidal widget]

On this day, 110 years ago, the world was going through its first world war. A shocking and horrifying series of battles that destroyed countries and families alike

However on this day something miraculous happened. Instead of bullets, bombs, and weapons of destruction being thrown around, there was merriment. Soldiers from France, England, Russia, and Germany, who'd been slaughtering each other by the thousands, climbed out of their war torn trenches and greeted one another as fellow humans; sang together, drank together, even exchanging gifts of wine, cigarettes, and the like.

It's an event I always think about this time of year, especially with all the horrible stuff that's happening in the world that one day we as people can put aside our prejudices, our fears, our hatreds, and just come together in the spirit of companionship.

It might be wishful thinking, but I wanted to write about how at one point in history we really did just stop and say "do we really need to fight?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone

[tall gulch]

If possible.. could you do what you did with pokemon/palworld but with ark survival ascended? studio wildcard regularly ignores the pvp community to the point it went from thriving to maybe taking up 30% of the player base in Ark survival ascended alone.. you could make so much money and bring in so many players by doing this. I would be willing to help any way possible!

[teal iron]

If they make competitive Palworld and start balancing things around it I'll beat somebody up

[peak folio]

https://x.com/sauripus/status/1871905643810197982

サウリプス𓅜𓆌𓆈 (@sauripus) on X

メリークルルマス☆🐔チキンはいかがですか！？（再）

Twitter · Dec 25, 2024, 1:07 PM

bird up

[tall gulch]

Honestly, If this company can make something like Ark survival evolved from studio wildcard, theyd win over thousands of players who are currently stuck behind paywalls just to get the full use out of some dinos and being ignored by the devs of wildcard. these guys normally listen to their community and have made some amazing work that even is giving pokemon a run for its money, they could so do it if they wanted. they dont have to base an enitrire game around it but still.. thered be money and hge community who'd be happy to join.

[teal iron]

Palworld literally is ark survival tho

[glad needle]

Is Ark even as good as Palworld?

Also I’m amazed Nintendo didn’t patent enraged chicken attacks. They had em in Zelda

[teal iron]

I was thinking about how the skins in this game are free and had this hilarious idea for a mod that just makes them unfree

[peak folio]

We’re still in early access, What if post launch ones aren’t free?

[solid sun]

What do you mean you aren't signed up for the Palworld Esport tournaments yet? Get on board

[peak folio]

Also
Evangelion Burger
https://fixupx.com/mcdonaldsjapan/status/1872047167419920837

[unborn cargo]

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays!

Have a safe and happy holiday season everyone.☃️

[potent stratus]

You too Aza

[icy pecan]

Merry Christmas to you as well

[kindred sleet]

[amber pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-merry-christmas-merry-xmas-christmas-xmas-gif-5770383105089040602

[icy pecan]

Merry Christmas

[tall gulch]

Its kinda close, but unless im missing something its missing raiding and pvp 😦

[tall gulch]

It used to be back before ASA now with the changes to ASA its only good if you like pve, theyve completely dropped their pvp community imo.

I figured the devs here might want to try an cash in on wildcards community that they are losing pretty quickly from them ruining maps and meta lol I love this company so I figured I'd let them know somehow if I could tbh.

[frozen bluff]

There is kind of a pvp element in Palworld, wherein you can go challenge other players in a gym type battle between them and their pals. I imagine stuff like official raids and full scale battles between bases would be something planned much further down the line

[tall gulch]

I genuinely hope so. especially if its done semi soon and done right they'd be able to snag almost all of wildcards pvp community which would be amazing for pocket pair.

[frozen bluff]

Well, so far even without the elements of base-raiding and PVP, the game has been incredibly fun and Pocketpair is doing an amazing job of fleshing it out so far. Feybreak was massive for an update. People have been clamoring for base raids and PVP I'd say since the game released in early access and exploded in popularity. No doubt in my mind that Pocketpair is well aware of what the community wants 😄

[frozen bluff]

Right now in terms of PVP, we have a gym that you can go to, to pit your pals against another player's. Like I said, I'm sure that's going to be expanded upon later

[tall gulch]

ye and i def appreciate the info 🙂 cant blame a guy for trying though even if it is pointing out the obvious xD

[frozen bluff]

It's my pleasure. Really, we have a lot of elements in this game already that are pretty similar to Ark. Ain't any harm in asking about something you wanna see; that's kind of the point of community servers like this, I feel, and they even have a whole channel dedicated to suggestions: #1066919387921137724

Pocketpair, as far as my experience here has told me, has always been decent about communicating with their community and at least paying attention to what they have to say. This is what sets them apart from other companies like ||Nintendo||, Wildcard, Arrowhead, Ubisoft... etc

[tall gulch]

I SWEAR!!!! I've been banned from survive the ark (official ark wiki ran by WC) for pointing out them leaving the pvp community to rot and making it harder for anyone not in some massive 100+ member tribes to actually do anything, can't even build under the radar because theyre removing caves and ratholes. they even muted me from their official discord earlier today because I pointed out battlemetrics.com (a website dedicated to ark player counts and server statistics an info which has never been wrong before) was showing a lot different numbers than what the devs were saying and pointed out with all the facts lined up it felt like the devs were just fully dropping their pvp community for pve, especially removing offline raid protection servers which allowed people to work or have a life outside of the game and still pvp without logging on to a wiped base 😦

I played the game for almost a decade and have thousands of hours into pvp and me and a massive chunk of the community feel abandoned and ignored.. idk I guess this was my way of calling for help from a studio that cares vs being ignored by another who doesn't care less 😦

[torpid gull]

@rough crag as i said before, comparing piracy to stealing is wrong. When you steal something, the owner loses access to it. Unlike with piracy.

And it's also wrong to compare it to a gardener - the gardener is working specifically for you. Piracy would be like seeing an automatic gardener robot in a store, going home and copying everything about its design without paying the company that built the robot

And if you keep simply denying my arguments without showing any counterproof then i'll just leave you to your ignorance

You can consider piracy bad, this is an opinion, but we were having a debate.

[rough crag]

no its not, its the same thign

you are stealing from people, and the least you can do is be honest with yourself about it

[pulsar sun]

Yeah that’s theft, you’re taking something that doesn’t belong to you, copying it. Then using it for your own use without permission

[rough crag]

i will make it very simple, justify why companies spend that much money on anti piracy if it does not harm them? according to your "arguments"

[glad needle]

I never do PVP, so meh

[tall gulch]

It was great in ASE but they started ruining it in ASA

[torpid gull]

Because piracy is still a very gray area and it's hard to pinpoint how to stop it. But recent studies (more recent than those companies) are showing that piracy is a consequence of bad service

[rough crag]

why are they trying to stop it if according to your very very duvious studies its a benefit?

[tall gulch]

it didn't help people would blame the player for what was also a poorly designed pvp system as well.

[torpid gull]

I agree, it doesn't belong to you. But it's not the same as theft because the owner still has access to it. Piracy is the same as copyright infringement, not stealing

[potent stratus]

nero where's your christmas hat

[pulsar sun]

Yeah stealing something doesn’t necessarily mean you lose access to something

[torpid gull]

Again, these studies are recent, the companies don't see that, and piracy isn't ALWAYS benefitial, but it CAN be in SOME cases

[rough crag]

i will say i have read the studies and they are bs, complete and utter bs, game companies know exactly how much they loose from piracy, so they prefer to spend that much money on anti piracy (wich is on top of very expensive a huge amount of investment in order to make it run right)

[frozen bluff]

Yeah I don't consider an online public function of that design to be a good thing. It's a way to drive away a loyal fanbase if they can just come home from work and find everything destroyed. For sure wouldn't want to play again if I came home from a 12-hour shift and a really shitty day, just to find all my hard work obliterated 😂.

While personally I don't mess with PVP, I can understand why it's fun for a lot of people, gives them some excitement. I'll keep it 💯 and admit that I discovered this game almost entirely because of the controversy surrounding its release and how much it had exploded. It was all anyone ever talked about for like... 2 months. Before that happened, I didn't even know Craftopia existed. What I thought was just going to be a meme turned into over 300 hours of playtime and a game that literally MY ENTIRE FAMILY loves and started playing; my dad ended up setting up a server 😂

[torpid gull]

Companies see how many pirated copies there are and assume that's lost money, but they don't know if those people would have even bought the product in the first place

[pulsar sun]

But they still lost a potential sale

[rough crag]

Game companies know how much ppl steal from them and they decide to invest that money on making games harder to pirate just to be able to gain that amount of money it takes to pirate it anyway, just a couple of months of safety is worth for them that huge amount of money and effort spent...

Now imagine a random dude making a study not taking that into account... xD

[torpid gull]

I mean it does, we just use the verb for everything ("you stole my idea!" "You stole my joke") but it's not literally stealing

[pulsar sun]

But it is,

[rough crag]

forget about the potential sale lost, the amount spent on anti piracy itself is a huge real lost caused by piracy.

[tall gulch]

its sad for WC they really play their community against one another and try to reflect that blame. I've seen and heard nothing but great things with pocketpair so I'm hoping either my post, comments, or DM will grab enough attention to get something moving. again I played for almost a decade and I hate to see something that had so much potential be killed off by a company that ignores their community for greed. controversy over community is a horrible idea imo.

[rough crag]

no matter how you spin it you are stealing their work and the very least you can do is be honest with yourself about it

[rough crag]

if a comedian does a routine that takes a huge amount of time, and then someone else reproduce the routine is he not stealing?

[torpid gull]

True. But if the service is good and worth one's money, they wouldn't have to spend so much and more people would buy it. Sure, something should be spent because there are people who would pirate anything if given the chance, but then again, these people wouldn't have bought it in the first place

[rough crag]

thats such a bad argument "they would have not bought it in the first place", it does not justify anything

you can literally justify any robery by saying that, oh he stole that car but no worries he was not going to pay for it anyway....

[pulsar sun]

None of what you’re saying is really justifying anything.

[torpid gull]

I'm not saying it justifies their actions? I'm saying that they're not really "lost money" because that money wouldn't have went to the company either way. If you don't find 100 dollars on the street, have you lost 100 dollars?

[rough crag]

it is lost money, that is the part that is imposible to ignore, game companies are loosing money due to piracy

i have already told you they loose sales -> they are willing to spend huge amount of money and effort just to delay piracy in order to get to win more money... this should hint you about the very obvious fact that they loose money from piracy...

if a gardener does your garden and then you dont pay him, would you say to him: "you did not loose any money b/c i was not going to pay you anyway" ?

fk no, he lost money, they money you should have paid him for the service that he provided you...
The same is real with games, they are providing you a services and you are deciding to not pay for it.

[torpid gull]

I already told you that's a bad comparison because game companies don't work specifically for one person

[frozen bluff]

I mean... that's the choice they make. As the devs, they get to choose how they interact with the community and behave with them. It's of my personal belief that as soon as a company adopts the idea that they're "too big to fail," that's when the failure spiral starts to happen. They get lazy, they get uninspired, and worst of all, they get arrogant. Ubisoft is a great example; they cut a lot of the developers who made games because they wanted to make games and replaced them with incompetents, produced some crummy titles that underperformed, and are skating real close to bankruptcy now, because they aren't bringing in money, and their community has next to no respect for them now. I used to be a Ubisoft fan and I LOVED Assassin's Creed. They butchered it horribly

[rough crag]

neither does gardeners, mine works for 20, if one does not pay for it, its still 1/20 of his profits.

[torpid gull]

Anyway, you're right that piracy makes companies lose money. I agree now. And you can think whatever you want about the morality of piracy.

BUT, this isn't the whole picture. Piracy is sometimes caused by the companies themselves because willingness to pay is a huge factor in it. I'm reading a study on that rn, i'll link it later

[rough crag]

you should think of a game as a service paid by everyone playing it, if someone is playing and not paying he is simply stealing his part, the part that devs deserve for their effort.

[rough crag]

good now we can agree on both things

[night plume]

I have no idea what the convo is, I just saw gardener and pay and I need a gardener bc I hate yard work and want a maintained garden xD

[rough crag]

you are correct on both points piracy is usually a distribution problem, but at the very least if ppl pirate something i want them to know what they are doing and be honest with themselves

[frozen bluff]

Go for maintenance 🛠️

[rough crag]

XD

[torpid gull]

I still think pirating AAA stuff isn't morally wrong in most cases because the average AAA company makes tons of expensive bundles and etc and doesn't care about their consumers, and there's also this whole "free advertising" aspect of piracy

But as for indies, they don't have the resources. THIS is morally wrong

[tall gulch]

I honestly couldn't have said it better myself. it makes it worse WC is owned b y snailgames because of jeremys stupidity. I feel like I'm trying to make an entire community heard with these comments lmao and I def felt that with ubisoft, tbh I feel peak assassins creed was either brotherhood or black flag an it started falling off from there.

[rough crag]

it does not matter, its still the same, 2 wrongs will never make a right, if you dont like a company dont buy their stuff, i literally did not buy GoW Ragnarok b/c fk sony login xD

not buying stuff from greddy crappy companies is the moral thing to do, not stealing from them xD

[tall gulch]

idk what this convo is about but honestly its even more wild than mine about wildcard forging/ faking numbers and ignoring/lying to their community lmfaooo

[frozen bluff]

Well... it started its downward spiral after 3. They lost the story of the actual Assassin's Creed and the Isu artifacts and whatnot... because after the release of Revelations, they wanted a yearly release of Assassin's Creed, and the original writer did not want that. They fired him and got him replaced

[rough crag]

its about piracy hahaha

[tall gulch]

I remember all that now that you mention it, it was some wild times.

[torpid gull]

This is what i'm reading https://corsearch.com/content-library/blog/does-piracy-impact-sales-a-look-at-the-data/

[tall gulch]

if I know one thing about piracy that is they all are only after one thing.

[mossy kernel]

lowkey kinda cool ngl I endorse 100% /j

[tall gulch]

booty.

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/patchy-the-pirate-spongebob-nicktoons-bubble-gif-16638629

[frozen bluff]

3 was solid, Black Flag was insanely fun, but back then they still had the rest of the dev team that were still passionate about making games that were fun for players who wanted to play them. After black flag, though, you can definitely see the shift in quality

[potent stratus]

patchy

[frozen bluff]

X marks the spot me hearties

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-creepy-smile-yes-excited-nodding-gif-8303310

[torpid gull]

But this also doesn't see the whole picture as they literally work against piracy

[night plume]

I wrote a story long ago about my brother and sister being pirates. My sister was Captain One Eyed Buck Tooth and my Brother was First Mate Stink Foot.

(is only reading a word of two of the convo and just writing what comes to mind)

[icy pecan]

The ultimate pirate

[rough crag]

i am not even extremely against piracy, i just think ppl doing it need to understand they are stealing and if they are fine with that, then so be it haha

[rough crag]

you should always look at the people loosing money when you want to know the truth

[torpid gull]

These people are earning money from that lmao

[rough crag]

if game companies or movies or anything was not loosing money, they would not care about it.

since they do, they are loosing money from it 100% sure xD

[torpid gull]

The thing is, you can't stop piracy. Anti piracy policies only hurt the consumers, and this makes them even MORE likely to pirate stuff out of spice

[rough crag]

that's a lie

[final orbit]

Murder is wrong but Healthcare companies do it everyday

[rough crag]

they have tested this already, delaying piracy just by a few month is a huge amount of extra money for them

[final orbit]

Where's the line

[rough crag]

what?

who are they murdering? XD

[torpid gull]

Completely unreasonable comparison (with piracy) but i agree lol

[final orbit]

They get extra money four a month OK but still can't stop piracy as a whole it'll happen eventually

[final orbit]

It was a bit passive aggressive my b

[rough crag]

yah and? that is not an argument for anything hahaha

[final orbit]

That's what your argument is?

[rough crag]

companies loose money to piracy, and that is a fact, trying to deny it is simply being in denial

and as long as you agree that they loose money from it you have to recognize that by piratying you are stealing from them.

[potent stratus]

he's the coolest

[final orbit]

There's a difference between multi million dollar companies losing money vs devs tho cuz typically they are just hired to make a game four a studio, if I have that accurate at least

Like game freak isn't Nintendo itself

[torpid gull]

Momentarily, yes, but time goes on. As more and more companies do that, people will get tired of it (not if the anti piracy measure doesn't affect the product, but most of them do)

Also, game piracy had a huge fall when steam was made. This shows that a huge factor is convenience and quality: when companies make bad or inconvenient products, people will go after piracy. The solution is making good stuff, not adding thirty layers of denuvo and hurting your FPS

[icy pecan]

Not even Blackbeard can compete with patchy

[rough crag]

its irrelevant, there is no such thing as stealing from more wealthy ppl being aceptable, stealing is stealing no matter who you are stealing from, moral relativism is a lie xD

[rough crag]

they have been doing it from the early days of pc gaming, they will keep doing it b/c people will keep trying to steal from them xD

we agree on distribution having a huge impact on piracy tho

but that does not mean its not stealing or that is not morally incorrect to do

[torpid gull]

Stealing 1 dollar from elon musk or 1 dollar from a homeless man is definitely different, moral relativism isn't a total lie

[tall gulch]

its honestly sad to see studios doing that stuff.

[final orbit]

Pirating is evil? The multi billion dollar companies are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen fourtnite and kids who have never seen capitilism have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this internet war becomes justice!

[torpid gull]

Then again it doesn't justify it

[tall gulch]

as is everything in this world, history is written by the victor RIP MW3

[final orbit]

Not liking piracy doesn't prevent it, it just makes people wanna pirate more so the best way to lighten the load is not talk about it

[rough crag]

pirating is evil? yes
The multi billion dollar companies are righteous? Fk no

The rest is nothing? XD

[final orbit]

Hence why pirating can sometimes promote games

[rough crag]

stealing from an asshole or a immoral person is still stealing xD

[potent stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/patchy-the-pirate-spongebob-spongebob-betrayed-us-betrayed-patchy-gif-27400564

[final orbit]

What if you steal from someone whole stole it in the first place

[rough crag]

this part is a blatant lie

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-scared-spongebob-afraid-gif-14366037

[tall gulch]

I'm with the lettuce man on this one xD

[rough crag]

piracy is never a net positive on sales.

[rough crag]

still every bit as wrong

[final orbit]

Tears of the kingdoms popularity skyrocketed at the pirating phase imo

[tall gulch]

you right it def did

that was peak for it imo

[rough crag]

that's bs.

[final orbit]

Everyone knew the game was dogs hit and wanted to play it and get it out of their system

And pirating is fun

[potent stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-hahaha-laughing-laugh-sponge-bob-gif-15670249

[rough crag]

it skyrocketed b/c ppl got access to it earlier.., the game was insanely hyped before release and nintendo lost a lot of money from that, thats why they chased ppl with very expensive lawyers and fk everyone involved

[final orbit]

It promotes learning internet skills and learning where to search four lesser known tools

[torpid gull]

No it isn't, there's a case of a book writer whose books were pirated in russia and this led many people to know about them and legally buy them

[rough crag]

that's not evidence of anything, the same would have happened if those ppl purchased the book...

[final orbit]

Pirating isn't wrong, it's the intent of the person that determines if it's wrong

[tall gulch]

I can't say that because I didn't know it existed before the piracy lol

[rough crag]

piracy is always wrong... its called piracy for a reason xD

[torpid gull]

No, the pirated copies were literally free advertising

[rough crag]

they were not... that is simply a lie, first they were not free

[final orbit]

If I pirate your favorite game cuz I don't like you, that's malicious intent, if I emulate a game I can't affourd or can't buy a 800 DOLLAR SYSTEM FOUR I'm going to pirate and have my entertainment, you can only be arrested four selling the product anyway

[final orbit]

The original meaning of the word piracy..... Is what America is

[tall gulch]

I can say that limewire introduced me to so much music and viruses I never would've experienced otherwise

[tall gulch]

as a american I second this lmfaooo

[rough crag]

you are still stealing, if whoever made the game would sue you they would win, its usually impractical and a waste of time but piratying and stealing is one and the same thing, being unable to get caught changes nothing

[final orbit]

Gate keeping a product from people who can't affourd it like homeless people is also wrong

Pick your poison

[tall gulch]

hold onto them ROMS theyre trying to remove them here ig

[rough crag]

no its most certainly not

its your property and its not immoral to decide who can enjoy your property

[final orbit]

@torpid gull remember the comparison I made about Healthcare companies 😭

[rough crag]

and even if the company was doing something immoral it changes nothing about what you are doing... and as long as you can be honest about that part i dont care that much

[torpid gull]

The book writer literally admitted that piracy helped him

https://jipel.law.nyu.edu/you-wouldnt-download-a-car-but-if-you-did-whats-it-worth/

[icy pecan]

Hmm

[rough crag]

but trying to imply that what you are doing is fine and not stealing is just delusion

[torpid gull]

He's right though

It's your right to decide who uses your bike, or in piracy's case, who can copy the design of your personally modified bike

[final orbit]

The good place has a scene abiut this, every decision you make can be traced back to corporate greed or something immoral of the like, it's very muddy but as long as your intentions are at least in kind spirits we can learn to be fine

[final orbit]

I was just imagining that sentence with life saving Healthcare cuz thats Def what ceos say xD

[rough crag]

i hope you understand that the starting point of that is very very flimsy, how can anyone know if his book was going to succed without piracy? how can anyone know for certain if his book was not going to be featured by an article a week later and all those ppl piratying just stole property for nothing, who is to say piracy is the only cause for success of that book? its a nothing burger sadly

[final orbit]

That goes both ways then

[rough crag]

i love the good place, the argument of everything having a muddy origin is fine but its a bit stupid, the morality of an action is to the extent of your knowledge, not the extent of everything that happens, that was exactly the problem with the good place system

[rough crag]

not really b/c companies have the numbers and $ lost from piracy, that author does not have anything to compare to

[final orbit]

That's a nothing burger argument cuz it's not your money it's theirs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[rough crag]

wut?

[torpid gull]

The same can be said about the "lost money" of piracy. Who is to say that people who pirate a game would have legally bought it if it were harder to pirate it? This last study i linked links another study that says only about 2% of pirated copies are actually lost sales

[final orbit]

That's a good point! Pirating game is very annoying to manually grab the updates to patch the game, no casual person is gonna do that and that means piracy won't really affect the sales at all

[rough crag]

the companies that have tried it, and have the numbers to back it up

[rough crag]

that is simply a lie

[torpid gull]

This 2% study was made by a game company.

[final orbit]

Saying the numbers back it up to someone who actually posted proof has literally no weight

[final orbit]

What is a lie about it, I have to manually find and download the game again everytime it updates

[rough crag]

he literally posted studies showing that companies loose money from piracy

[final orbit]

Or if I have a custom launcher I can patch it easily

But that's four emulators

[final orbit]

Didn't read lol just lol

[torpid gull]

And also studies showing that we don't know exactly how much money is lost IF it's lost

[rough crag]

the part about piracy not affecting sales

[rough crag]

we know at the very least is a LOT since companies loose money on anti piracy software, and its not a little money, its a LOT

like every single thing you guys can try and say is easily dismissed by the amount of money that is spent on anti piracy...

[final orbit]

Oral am I wrong or do I remember correctly that game devs are paid befoure the game comes out and aren't really gaining much from sales other than maybe royalty of they even get that

[rough crag]

game companies are not dumb, they would let piracy happen if that was the most profitable course of action.

[final orbit]

I can care about devs but never the companies themselves

[rough crag]

depends on the company.

[torpid gull]

Piracy is incredibly complex and can result in both losses AND gains, also you're assuming the CEOs of those companies are being honest. Most of those companies who say "we lost x money from pirates" are simply using "1 downloaded copy = 1 lost sale" but that's simply not true at all

[rough crag]

i mean sure but you agree that you are stealing from that company right?

[final orbit]

Can't steal what I can't own

[rough crag]

no they are not, they are comparing games launched with or without anti piracy measures.

[torpid gull]

You can definitely steal a mclaren, what's that point lol

[rough crag]

they dont even know how much more they loose after the initial period

[final orbit]

Bro wtf is a McLaren that sounds so familiar, also I'm referring to the terms of service on steam saying we don't own the games

[torpid gull]

Manufacturer of expensive cars

[rough crag]

you dont, you own a license to play the game

[final orbit]

OK, that license allows me to play online, if I'm by myself I'll pirate

[rough crag]

that license allows you to play the game

its like renting a motorbike, if you are using it alone you should not rent it? lol

[final orbit]

If that was the case pirating the game would lead to a pay wall telling you to get the license

[teal iron]

what are you guys arguing about

[final orbit]

An imaginary thing is still imaginary

[rough crag]

? what

[teal iron]

plundering the spanish treasure fleets is always a fun activity

[torpid gull]

And this is precisely why piracy is rising. Because companies are making bad decisions. The saying "if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing" is promoting piracy and only exists because companies are getting increasingly greedy

[rough crag]

that is aplicable to any renting

[torpid gull]

Buying a game isn't renting

[rough crag]

renting isnt owning, not paying rent is still stealing xD

[final orbit]

Not the defending renters

[rough crag]

its the same you pay for a license to use the game, or you pay for the right to use a home

[final orbit]

😭

[night plume]

I think they want to go out on the ocean, claim to be pirates, and sell healthcare to the sea life?

I gave up trying to follow.

[final orbit]

I'm having fun watching

[teal iron]

Piracy is a symptom of a mismatch between the conditions to obtain a product and the quality of that product

[rough crag]

yep

[torpid gull]

We've been told for so long that we were buying the game, not a license to play it. Digital media shouldn't be so radically different to physical media (which is being replaced, guess why?) and is the reason people are so outraged at this

[teal iron]

Good products for fair prices will almost never be pirated

[torpid gull]

Exactly, which is why we can't just say "1 pirated copy = 1 lost sale"

[rough crag]

but it is still stealing and as long as they try to justifiy it as being something morally correct or not stealing i will keep saying that it is immoral and it is stealing.

[teal iron]

moderately decent or good products for outrageous, unaffordable, or irrational prices/terms get pirated

[rough crag]

yep agree on this too, but it does not justify stealing anything xD

[final orbit]

From what I know of steam pirating, someone had to buy it to get the code anyway haha

[teal iron]

I don't like the argument that piracy is equivalent to theft as that opens a lot of uncomfortable ethical crises

[torpid gull]

It does if the company or the product is trash, if i were robin hood i wouldn't mind robin hood-ing if my target is an asshole
But this is opinion field

[teal iron]

Like what are you if you mute your TV during an ad

[rough crag]

robin hood was stealing xD

[teal iron]

You're not paying the price you agreed to for your youtube/streaming service/cable agreement

[rough crag]

nothing b/c you are not contractually obligated to hear an add on your tv

[torpid gull]

Wait until youtube adds that

[final orbit]

Pirating isn't illegal anyway only selling the code itself

So even the law says it's not wrong

[teal iron]

Are you...?
I mean someone paid money for that ad just like the game company paid someone (multiple people) to give you the video game

And you're basically denying them any return

[rough crag]

piracy is illegal in USA at least

[final orbit]

You aren't contractually obligated to purchase a game either technically

[final orbit]

Selling it

Streaming it counts as a way of selling too

[teal iron]

I don't think piracy should be LEGAL or a common practice

[rough crag]

using it too, its just imposible to enforcew

[final orbit]

But enjoying it by yourself is fine

[rough crag]

but dont lie to yourself piracy is not legal xD

[teal iron]

but like I don't consider it morally unacceptable or theft, in the same way smashing into someone's home and making off with their TV is theft

[torpid gull]

Yeah piracy is definitely not theft

[rough crag]

to me is like getting a gardener and not paying him, he did a service for you and you decided that his service for you was not worth paying for.

[teal iron]

But uh
This probably isn't a conversation we should be having anyway

Now that I think about it...

[torpid gull]

Bucky allowed us

[teal iron]

Oh ok then

[torpid gull]

We're discussing piracy not HOW to pirate

[final orbit]

Piracy at its core is sorta just copying the lines from one portrait to your own?

[rough crag]

no xD

[final orbit]

If you sell a fake Mona Lisa that's bad but owning one isn't

[rough crag]

if you rewrote a whole game trying to copy what you saw in other game that would be like copying one portrait to one you made

[final orbit]

Code is code

[teal iron]

I mean suppose I pirate Video Game from Company
Company doesn't get whatever I was going to pay for Video Game, sure, but nothing actually real was lost

[final orbit]

Copy paste is spectacular 👀

[torpid gull]

Companies say they lose billions from piracy because they often assume 1 pirated copy = 1 lost sale, and then instead of improving their products they decide to spend lots of money into anti-piracy measures.

If piracy exists, it has a reason to exist

[rough crag]

the gardener did not loose anything real but he lost time and effort spent making the service you got

[teal iron]

The revenue of me buying Video Game is acorporeal, speculative and very likely nonexistent as the overwhelming majority of people would buy a game legitiamtely if they could

[teal iron]

No he did lose something very real, his time and probably some consumable supplies

[rough crag]

greaaat i was waiting for this, devs and the company lost time and consumable supplies making a game (coffee, food, computers, etc)

[teal iron]

Video Game is a series of electronic transmissions whose cost cannot be traced, and no one actually spent time to prepare the "stolen" copy

[torpid gull]

The company did not specifically select a time window to work for you, it created its product for virtually infinite people

[final orbit]

Digital is still not physical or real and should not be compared to real life work, that's disingenuous I think

[rough crag]

i work on a Tech company our cost are very much traceable

[teal iron]

We cannot attach each individual copy of Video Game to all of the expenses made for Video Game's Production

[rough crag]

every single feature has a cost for us and we know exactly how much it cost

[teal iron]

Because the copies sold as a collective, are what competes with that production cost

[rough crag]

being hard to calculate does not make it imposible tho

if you have the numbers you can certainly do it

[teal iron]

$60 is not going to do anything to the tens of thousands, or millions, or hundreds of millions needed to produce the game

[rough crag]

thats not really relevant, stealing from someone that does not notice it is still stealing

[teal iron]

The $60 competes with, if anything, the price of transmitting the copy through data centers

You're missing my point, Nero, let me finish

[torpid gull]

A gardener who works for you specifically chooses a time window of his day to work specifically for you.

A company who makes a game does not choose who it's working for. They make a game for virtually infinite people, and they only need to work once (make the game) rather than continuously.
It's not the same

[final orbit]

Iirc there are a few games out there that have features that only work if you pirate, those devs are cool

[teal iron]

You're mismatching costs here

Each individual copy is not measured against the overall production, the collective sales are measured against overall production, and piracy does not affect the production cost

[rough crag]

game companies support the game for years usually... wtf you are talking? the gardener does it once and he is paid for that service, game companies keep spending money on patches for games

[teal iron]

it doesn't HELP but it doesn't harm either

[torpid gull]

But they could very well just abandon the game and people in a thousand years from now could still play it assuming it's available

[rough crag]

correct but not really relevant to anything xD

[rough crag]

the doesnt't harm is factually incorrect

[torpid gull]

@rough crag they keep working on the game for extra profit just like how a gardener keeps working for you

[rough crag]

if you are not paying him he is not tho

and they are still working for ppl that pirated the game for ppl that stole from them the same that the ones that paid

[teal iron]

I think it is factually correct, because the company lost nothing substantial

[torpid gull]

If you don't have a gardener, your grass will grow too much. If you don't have a game update, the game stays the same

[rough crag]

that is a lie, easily disproven, at the very least they loose a LOT of money on anti piracy... they are not doing that b/c piracy is harmless to them

[teal iron]

The only worthwhile anti-piracy is bringing a good deal to the table

Any other measure is a sham

[rough crag]

thats not real, game companies have already tried it, denuvo is still being used b/c it works for them, they actually make more money with games WITH denuvo

[torpid gull]

@rough crag a gardener repeats the same work for everyone who hires him. A company only does the work once (developing the game, developing updates, etc) and whoever wants that can buy it, the game company makes no extra effort. The gardener does make extra effort for you

[teal iron]

Right, they're cheating their customers

[rough crag]

they are fking their customers b/c piracy is harming them and they would rather make more money and fk with their customers than loose money to piracy.

[teal iron]

Slashing performance to squeeze out extra sales from people who are basically on the fence

[rough crag]

agree on thios

[teal iron]

If their product and pricing was better, they wouldn't need denuvo

[valid phoenix]

why dont i got the update yet

[teal iron]

that's just a fact

[rough crag]

but that changes not what they loose from piracy, it just changes they should not use anti piracy, the fact is, they are loosing money due to piracy and they will keep trying to avoid it

in the end they loose money from it, and trying to imply they are not is just delusional

[torpid gull]

Counterpoint to the gardener successfully ignored, with that i'm going to sleep bye

[final orbit]

Lemme spice it up by saying technically game sharing is piracy so is letting your roommate play the game wrong too?

😂

[rough crag]

i agree on the rest you said tho, they have more options, they are just not willing to take them, it does not change that ppl piratying from them are stealing from them

[torpid gull]

@rough crag read this later

[teal iron]

The dynamic is i sell Video Game for a good price and people love it
A few people will pirate it but whatever we're making so much money that we can just ignore the "losses"
The pirates will still spread good PR and draw more customers anyway

[rough crag]

this is just cope

[teal iron]

Then my competitor says "f-ck all of you, $70 + battle pass + crappy performance"

[torpid gull]

True and people who pirated that would have pirated it either way, not lost sales

[teal iron]

and is baffled, flabbergasted, that people are pirating his game way more than mine

[rough crag]

is thief cope, ppl that try to ignore the things they make are stealing

[teal iron]

so instead of offering a better deal, he starts interfering with the product, making it worse, just to try to block people from spitting on his crappy offer

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-funny-pets-pet-fun-ducking-duck-loop-gif-21727127

[rough crag]

like again i am not even that annoyed by piracy itself, its this fake ass cope that piracy is A) not harming game companies B) its somehow beneficial for games C) is morally corract

wich is super easy to disprove

[teal iron]

and yeah he might, he might make more money than me, but who was really the bad actor here?
The pirates? Or the guy who drove them to doing it because they cannot justify the asinine pricing and terms of service for a game that has no justification for them

[rough crag]

the answer is both, but 2 wrongs never make a right

[teal iron]

I think the pirates were simply acting in a rational and proportional way

[rough crag]

both are being assholes and morally questionable

[rough crag]

nothing someone else does justify what you do

[teal iron]

Some people, Nero, legitimately, cannot, litertally cannot withdraw $90 in their inflated currency to buy a video game that has no right to be above $30

[rough crag]

then they should not be playing games in all honesty, much less making a pc that can run games in the first place

[teal iron]

So they're bad people for wanting to participate in video games without the powdered wigs and disposable income to afford hyperinflated premium fees

[rough crag]

your choice is buy or not buy

its not buy or steal

[glad needle]

I barely afforded my $1500 gaming PC so I could run games like Palworld

[rough crag]

i literally do not buy games that are inflated, fk them but i dont pirate them either i just dont play them.

[teal iron]

I need to stress that they can afford to live just fine, but only barely, and the only reason the game is above their price range is because online stores hyperinflate the cost due to weird money exchange rates

[rough crag]

but this does not justify stealing games... as much as you can try to make it a justification

[teal iron]

This is a mentality I must stop to disagree with
Video games, music, movies, all art and entertainment, should not be a "luxury" that only people who have disposable incomes can enjoy

[rough crag]

they are not a luxury... you can play games are your life without paying a single game

the fact that you want a particular game and you try to imply the ppl making that game HAVE to agree to give it to you at the price YOU are willing to pay for it is incredibly naive and wrong

[teal iron]

Between economic factors I don't wanna to get too much into and how much the industry keeps trying to squeeze out, buying video games is becoming is a luxury

and it's not fair to cast moral judgement on people who cannot afford it

[rough crag]

you know why is this? ppl keep buying from them, look at riot selling 250 usd skins

the solution for this is not piracy, is not buying from them... piracy does nothing to solve anything

[rough crag]

not being able to aford anything is no justification to steal it.

[teal iron]

It's not really stealing, because you didn't take it away from anyone else

if I pirate Video Game, that does not prevent anyone else from obtaining Video Game

[rough crag]

we already went throw this, its still stealing you are stealing a service

[teal iron]

I disagree, still

[rough crag]

if you steal any service it does not prevent anyone else from getting that service

[teal iron]

because again, the "stealing a service" argument basically means minimizing youtube or heavens forbid installing an adblocker is also theft

[rough crag]

unless you manage to convince me that labour is free, then games has cost

[teal iron]

and I cannot budge on both of those being morally acceptable

[rough crag]

and if making games have costs that means that enjoying them without paying is stealing from the people that paid the cost's

[teal iron]

that logic holds in a vacuum but I think in reality it does not

I don't think we're going to convince each other, I'm gonna bounce

[rough crag]

adblock is stealing as well, i use it, i know full well i am stealing revenue from YT

have a nice day and life hahaha, yah its hard to change ppl mind

[teal iron]

i mean we can definitely agree that pirating a game you can 100% afford to buy is just not ok

[rough crag]

😂 better than nothing

[final orbit]

You could also pirate a game you aren't sure is worth your money as a test to see if it's worth it

[teal iron]

Ok that one, come on
Your friend with disposable money can stream it for you

[final orbit]

I said that from the pov of a friendless person?

Cuz obviously you can game share

[teal iron]

I dunno man that's your moral quandrary not mine

[silver pewter]

What??? You meant $25 right? 250 was a typo?

[silver pewter]

To be completely fair... them running an ad every damn 2.5 minutes is them stealing from your time.

[grand falcon]

Not necessarily

Because a lot/majority of ads now are scams, so it's just protecting yourself from scams

On top of that, YT takes majority of the money from YouTubers

Which YouTube doesn't help the YouTubers make the videos or anything

Which is why most YouTubers have other sources like patreon

[thorny bough]

Anyone know how to report a rampant hacker/cheater?

Like, its getting bad.

[junior hawk]

Press escape I’m pretty sure there’s a bug report section

[fresh pewter]

Palworld please allow us to destroy other peoples bases for PVP😉

[dense oracle]

Wwyd for a kolndike bar

[plush marsh]

Awesome review https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/765992875392499716/1321792545549844480/Screenshot_2024-12-26_175123.png?ex=676e86bc&is=676d353c&hm=e3600748299efb49c4461241398b8d5780c519b7eb6fddba5898667d145d0422&

[rough crag]

You have the option to not watch yt and that's it everything else is just rationalizing what you know is actually wrong by implying the other party is wrong as well but that never makes it right, whatever someone else does never justifies what you do.

[rough crag]

Nope, realest thing ever riot is greedy af (it was a huge success too) ppl are stupid :c

[coarse dagger]

Whoever helps me get xenolord gets all my lucky pals plus my Xbox account on palworld

[silver pewter]

"Technically it's an up to $250 skin.
It's a $5 lootbox, and if you spend $250 (80 spins) on it then they just give the best item to you." Oh, it is a gacha skin.

[coarse dagger]

I'll do do anything to get xenolord

[junior hawk]

Aren’t you on a self hosted game?

[solid sun]

cheat

do it

[humble parrot]

Morning

[icy pecan]

Morning

[grand falcon]

That's like saying criminals shouldn't be locked up or be given life sentences

Just because they did something wrong, doesn't mean you can take their God given rights away, because taking their God given rights away is wrong

And like you said, 1 wrong doesn't make another wrong right

So we should get rid of jails and prisons right?

[solid sun]

negative and negative turns to positive though

I learned that in school

[grand falcon]

Then you support ad blockers, simple as that

[solid sun]

ad blockers prevent viruses and other annoyances yes.

[rough crag]

No, you are being judge jury an executioner if you are "punishing" them on your own, you dont get to decide who is guilty nor what punishment they deserve, if yt is doing something scummy to you, you are free to sue them, you are not permitted to decide what you should do or dont do on their platform based on your own judgement, that is not justice at all

[grand falcon]

Then don't call 911 if someone breaks into your house

Because that's you judging, and deciding that persons fate

And if someone tries to kill you, don't defend yourself, just let them kill you, because you don't get to decide what their punishment is for trying to kill you

[solid sun]

So in this case, Nero is the one who always takes the mandatory quiz at the end of Television Ad-breaks and gets 100% on the answers what ads tried to sell them.

[rough crag]

No its not, calling the police is not deciding their fate that is stupid af is taking them to justice

[rough crag]

I am not i fully support adblock i use it myself i am just honest with myself in the fact that i am stealing from yt

[icy pecan]

Wow y’all still talking about pirates

[grand falcon]

Yes it is

If you call 911 and report them, your deciding for them to face the law, which is deciding their fate

You should let them go and decide for themselves if they want to face the law or not

[solid sun]

you're not stealing from youtube.
The people who buy the ad-slots are paying youtube money to have their ads on there.

[grand falcon]

Ad blocking is not pirating

[solid sun]

If you were getting money from watching ads, then you would be stealing from youtube, like with twitch prime.

[rough crag]

Yt dont get paid if you block the add

[icy pecan]

I don’t know nothing about this

[solid sun]

they are

[grand falcon]

Yes they do

Advertisers, have to pay YT themselves to be allowed on the platform

Your thinking of sponsors, they don't pay YouTube, and go straight to the YTers themselves

[solid sun]

if an ad doesn't get played, that doesn't matter, the people who made said ad, would have to have bought rights to have their ad be played in the first place.
Youtube doesn't just randomly fetch any ad from the internet and play it and take money from random people

[grand falcon]

Which, ad blockers do not block sponsors

[solid sun]

even if you were to skip a sponsor segment of a youtuber, they still got paid or will get paid.

[rough crag]

I mean yt does not charge if the add is not displayed

[grand falcon]

Exactly, or well kinda

They get paid upfront, and then everytime someone buys something through their link, they get a small cut of that

[rough crag]

If you add block yt does not get paid for that add, look it up

[solid sun]

that is not true

[solid sun]

well it depends, some like ads for games, may give a bonus based on click-throughs or something, but that depends on the contract and stuff.

[grand falcon]

They quite literally do?

In order for an ad to be on YouTube, those advertisers have to pay YouTube upfront

Which then, the advertises have to hope that they make the money back, by people buying their products

YouTubers, get paid by YouTube for you watching ads, which then YouTube takes MAJORITY of that money, and the YTers themselves only get a small %

[grand falcon]

The YTer still get paid in those situations, more people that use those codes or links, the more money the YTer will get

[rough crag]

Yt cannot charge for a service that they are not providing, if yt is not showing you an add they are not charging ppl to show you that add...

[solid sun]

as I said, it depends, I personally would only accept stuff where I get paid up front, not based on traction

[rough crag]

Ffs go google it, its plastered everywhere

[solid sun]

if youtube really is doing that, no wonder they are losing money.
They should hire people from Television who know how to deal in ads

[grand falcon]

I don't think you understand this AT ALL

Let me make it more simple for you

Let's say you buy a mall, and then Walmart wants to be inside your mall

Walmart will have to pay you to be apart of the mall

And if no one goes to Walmart inside your mall, Walmart does not get their money back from you

[solid sun]

I mean, it's also similar to a billboard.
Just because the new Tide-Pods bought an ad-space for it, doesn't mean anyone walking past will have to buy or pay attention to it.

[grand falcon]

It's like TV

You can't just have your ad placed on TV for free, you gotta pay an upfront price

[solid sun]

yeah, and ad breaks don't stop me from interacting with my TV, and prevent me from switching channels to not see the ads,

[grand falcon]

If ads were free

Everyone would make a shitty ad, for literally nothing

And have it played on YT, so then you'll make free money

[solid sun]

we get shitty ads, because they cost money, and they cut every cost to make it be produced for as cheap as possible

[rough crag]

Yt advertising does not work like walmart advertising, they are displaying the add even if people go, if you block an add they literally are not doing the thing ppl paid them for (showing you an add) anyway google it instead of making stuff up, google is open about this, the reason ytubers and ytube does not get pay when you block

[solid sun]

there is two kinds of video interaction statistics, yes, that is correct.

[grand falcon]

YT still does get paid the upfront price

What YT loses is the "ad revenue" which is the money YTers make for you watching the ad, which YT takes majority cut

For example

Let's say a YouTube video gets $1 for all the ads watched on that video, and that video gets 1 million views

That's $1million from that video, YouTube then takes 70% or so of that 1million, which is 700k, and the YouTuber only gets 300k

[rough crag]

You pay yt to show your add a certain number of times

[grand falcon]

HOWEVER

[grand falcon]

No they don't

Advertisers pay an upfront price to have their ads on YouTube

YTers don't pick and choose what ads play, they just put the "ad spaces" in wherever they want it to be at

And then once your video hits that time mark where the ad space is, a random ad is selected

Which there's like a billion or more different ads that can play, so there is no guarantee your ad will play no matter what

On top of that, YouTube also uses "targeted ads" which uses ads based on your searches, views, and other shit, so if you drink coke all day and do research on coke a cola

You ain't gonna get a Pepsi ad, your gonna get a coke ad

[solid sun]

yeah, and someone in Australia, will certainly see different ads than someone in France, as well as it depends on someone's browser history if they don't trim their cookies and stuff.

[rough crag]

You think advertisers pay for a chance to get advertised? Lol reas youtube guidelines please this is ridiculous

[grand falcon]

Look up what targeted ads are

And then search

"Does YouTube use Targeted ads"

[potent stratus]

good morning

[olive seal]

A person is a known troll and rage baits users, just letting you know

[olive seal]

Good morning

[olive seal]

How was your Christmas ?

[potent stratus]

they are

[grand falcon]

Wrong, ad blocking is not pirating

[solid sun]

I think you are the one less knowledged about this, when two different people who haven't at all done the same research on this, tell you the same things.

[icy pecan]

[solid sun]

Ad blocking is using your European rights! Europa! (the moon)

[icy pecan]

Hot topic

[hasty cairn]

i'm not involved

that's a lie, nora is spreading misinfo

[potent stratus]

my bad

[grand falcon]

I mean I know a bit about it

Because awhile ago an "ad-pocalypse" happened(like 2 or 3 times), and YTers made a lot of videos talking about it

[olive seal]

I like ads

[solid sun]

adpocalypses happen every once in a while when a "big" youtuber does an oopsie.

[grand falcon]

Not on the scale that happened before

[olive seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-eating-amc-perfectly-popcorn-mouse-yum-yum-delicious-gif-15877432887457947334

[solid sun]

I'm just doing the american-meme thing.

[grand falcon]

I think it was like mid 2014 or something like that

[solid sun]

not sure what that was, likely pewdiepie related.

[hasty cairn]

nu uh

[grand falcon]

It was a lot of people attacking each other using the flag system and shit

Marking each others videos as " not family friendly" or whatever, so ads wouldn't be playable on their videos, and then people were also attacking the advertises and sponsors directly

[olive seal]

How was your Christmas mean?

[grand falcon]

Which is why we now have the "demonized" system

[solid sun]

that I haven't heard about, only really hearing about big people doing a video in a Forest, or saying a slur live on TV.

[olive seal]

The forest one was very messed up

[hasty cairn]

demonitized?

[solid sun]

as if anything else wasn't.

[solid sun]

demontized.

[hasty cairn]

demonized.

👿

[grand falcon]

A YouTube video has to be approved before they are "monetized" which is how you get ads on your video

[hasty cairn]

deleting my yt account, I don't wanna be demonized

[solid sun]

ostrichsized

[hasty cairn]

i'm not a fan of big birds, still deleting

[grand falcon]

I regret opening YT not being logged in............

I just saw the worst shit ever

[olive seal]

Share it, I like those

Well not like but I’m curious

[solid sun]

curious about shit hmm.

[hasty cairn]

ew

[grand falcon]

I hope your pillow is hot and that your socks are wet

[olive seal]

Wet socks sucks

[solid sun]

hmm, I don't understand that one.
If you put someone's hand in a bowl of warm water they will wet themselves in their sleep.

[olive seal]

But warm pillow amazing

[olive seal]

Is it really true? Never seen it irl

[solid sun]

I attempted it once with a friend, but they woke up

[mint moat]

hello all .. does anyone know a good website for palworld dedicated server ? we are 3 ppl so not to many

[potent stratus]

@hasty cairn whats the website we used to use

[hasty cairn]

nitrado

[grand falcon]

worm pillos just suck

and wet socks are just nasty/uncomfertable as hell

like whens the last time you saw someone willingly wlak with wet socks on

[mint moat]

did u have any issue with the server ethier at the start up or the setup or some lag ?

[potent stratus]

we had some lag at the begining but then it went away

[solid sun]

I mean during a summer heavy rain, I have no problem walking a few kilometers through rain. even getting drenched to the sock.
It's just water.

[hasty cairn]

only when it had to update

[solid sun]

and that was this summer, my 'water resistent' jacket was completely drench through, and everything else too.

you could hear the schlick schlick sounds when walking

[mint moat]

u mean at game update or the server update ?

[hasty cairn]

game update

[mint moat]

ok thanks for the help ❤️

[rough crag]

Thanks

[hasty cairn]

anytime

[olive seal]

anytime

[solid sun]

but, what we said about the youtube stuff was correct though.
Don't give people wrong ideas

[olive seal]

I wasn’t informed of the topic at hand, I just warn users about a person. But you were right yes

Germans never wrong 😌

[solid sun]

Not a german though.

Being able to speak a language doesn't inherently make you a person of that country.

[olive seal]

Ohh I thought you mentioned that you were German, my bad

[solid sun]

I live here currently

[grand falcon]

Just ignore him, bat and his little friend group is just mad because I don't hide facts

I don't bend to peoples feelings or "wokeness", it's facts or nothing

[olive seal]

Ohhh my bad

[olive seal]

I don’t have a friend group, a lot of people hate me and have me blocked. I only have Shelly uwu

[hasty cairn]

who's part of his friend group?

[solid sun]

don't worry I hate all of you equally.

[hasty cairn]

gotta make magic happen rq

[olive seal]

Thank you 🙏

[grand falcon]

Lemme get their names

I didn't waste space in my mind to remember them, but I can find out real quick, gimme a second

[hasty cairn]

can't say I blame you lmao

[olive seal]

I have friends???? 😳🥹

[solid sun]

the only people I really block are idiots and people who post ugly memes randomly into chats.

[mint moat]

hey can u open ur dm pls

[olive seal]

Yes pls tell me , I need to know

[hasty cairn]

they are lol

[grand falcon]

Exactly, and that's why they hate me

I block idiots, and so they call me a troll, they are children

[olive seal]

List my supposed friends so I can add them, me very lonely 😞

[grand falcon]

cynic, azrelus, and like 2 or 3 others but they havent been tlaking in the server the past few sdays i guess because i cnat find any of their messages

[hasty cairn]

i'll keep that in mind, thank you

[humble parrot]

Too busy playing the game

Update has a lot of content

[solid sun]

too busy playing with your friends huh?

[humble parrot]

Nope, we are all playing separately

[hasty cairn]

damn now he got you

[humble parrot]

I'm playing on a server for my start over playthrough

But, I doubt any of them could play on it, lag would be terrible

[solid sun]

Isekai playthrough

[humble parrot]

Anyways, A Person is a troll. He likes to make up batshit crazy takes to "win" internet arguments, has no real ground or proof to argue anything and once he loses a point, moves the goal post to whatever ridicolous take he can come up next.

[olive seal]

I’m pretty sure azrelus keeps his distance from me and cynic he neutral

[humble parrot]

You can look up the discussions we've had. Those are all here still.

[olive seal]

Damn first thing we agree on, we might be friends huh

Please tell me we are friends 😭

[humble parrot]

[olive seal]

😭 I get it my bad 😭

[hasty cairn]

if they do that, what's the point lmao

[humble parrot]

It's entertaining for a while.

[olive seal]

Mean we friends right?

[humble parrot]

If I have time, I can spare a few minutes for a discussion.

But right now, Palworld takes priority

[hasty cairn]

same, poe calls

i'm addicted

[humble parrot]

We all got great games for christmas vacation

[hasty cairn]

i got poe and nine sols

[potent stratus]

moon got me poe

[humble parrot]

I have Palworld mainly and a few gifts to try out

Like Abiotic Factor

[frozen bluff]

I'm not gonna try to sway you one way or another. Dude is the only one in this server to my knowledge that has me blocked, though. I've been busy the past few weeks with holidays, work, and now Palworld update, as well as a collab project for the dev team

[hasty cairn]

now there are 2 people with you blocked hahaha lmao get fooled

nah jk

[frozen bluff]

https://media.tenor.com/1Emah2MgAhoAAAAi/atoms-cry.gif

My ego!

[hasty cairn]

let's goooooo

DESTROYED

[olive seal]

Wait no one really pinged you, how did you appear!

[frozen bluff]

Nah for real. That's the only reason I haven't been talkin much here, life be busy

[hasty cairn]

that actually sounds really fun, though

[frozen bluff]

Having free time; I have the whole week off this week except for Saturday and Sunday

[olive seal]

Good luck 🍀 enjoy your free time

[frozen bluff]

It was! Hope your Christmas was good as well

[hasty cairn]

it's been fun, ate like a pig and got a few gifts

hbu?

[frozen bluff]

Was pretty good! Got a bunch of presents for the family and watching them open them was fun. Had dinner Christmas Eve with the grandparents and did our gift exchanges then. Finished up the Collab project and made the post yesterday. Finally get to relax and enjoy my time now

Feybreak introduced a LOT of new mechanics which I'm working on understanding

[hasty cairn]

oh damn

sounds like you had a pretty busy xmas

[potent stratus]

mean and I watched movies, drank hot choclate and had dinner

[frozen bluff]

It was pretty busy, but it's my favorite holiday

[potent stratus]

then I watched him play his poe

[hasty cairn]

i lov epoe

[frozen bluff]

Isn't that the crow game? Or am I thinking of something else?

[hasty cairn]

it's the diablo-like game

[frozen bluff]

OH, path of exile. Sorry, didn't recognize the acronym at first

[hasty cairn]

what's the crow game?

[grand falcon]

Ghost runner 2 is free on epic games

[hasty cairn]

damn ty

i'll go grab it

[grand falcon]

Did you get dredge the other day?

[potent stratus]

he has dredge already so didn't need to get it

[frozen bluff]

There was a game released a little while back where you play as a crow. I thought it was called Poe but that's probably not right. I watched a streamer play it

[hasty cairn]

no, I have it on steam, gotta buy the dlcs though

[grand falcon]

I never heard of the game before, and the other day was my first time playing/seeing the game

And I genuinely had fun, because with other games, even games I love, I get bored pretty fast

But dredge was able to keep me entertained

[hasty cairn]

it's a pretty good game

probably one of my favorites from 2024

(that i've played during 2024)

[potent stratus]

poe is the name of one of the characters

[frozen bluff]

Probably, yeah. I'm sure it will come to me later

[potent stratus]

oh wait are you thinking of just crow things perhaps?

if you are that's a different game

[solid sun]

This game?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1996010/Crow_Country/

Steam

Crow Country

A survival horror game, where you’ll test yourself against puzzles and riddles as you investigate the eerie tranquility of the abandoned theme park. Don’t be deceived by the whimsical surroundings, something is awfully wrong in Crow Country.As you unlock new areas, backtrack and discover more, you gradually piece together why Edward really shut ...

Price

$15.59

Recommendations

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[hasty cairn]

if he's talking about that

this game is cool

[solid sun]

only one I remember with crow something

[grand falcon]

He's probably talking about a different one

Which, alot of streamers played, but due to who the person is

I won't be saying the name

[hasty cairn]

damn but I wanna know the name too

[grand falcon]

The few ruin it for the many

Or however that saying goes

[hasty cairn]

damn

[grand falcon]

I'll give you a hint, "night mind"

[solid sun]

Too many cooks ruin the broth.

[frozen bluff]

I got that game for my friend, but I think I'm thinking of Death's door

[potent stratus]

oooh got it

[hasty cairn]

oh I like death's door

[frozen bluff]

I don't know much about Just Crow Things

[hasty cairn]

I've played that one

[frozen bluff]

Deaths Door was a pretty solid release

Had a real unique charm to it

[solid sun]

wasn't the character in deaths door not wearing a Plague Doctor mask?

[hasty cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/deaths-door-gif-23013791

crow

[icy pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-of-judgement-judgement-bird-army-intensefies-gif-20318504

[olive seal]

I like crows 🐦‍⬛

[frozen bluff]

There he is, the boy

[hasty cairn]

i love him

[potent stratus]

I love you :3

[hasty cairn]

damn, i love you too

[zinc depot]

resident evil with bisque dolls

[grand falcon]

I'ma see if I can find a game that I remember from my childhood

[zinc depot]

Can you describe the game?, I will try and help

[grand falcon]

I don't remember much

Just that your character got this weird glove thing that acts like a gravity glove or magnetic force thing

And

There's this little girl who stands at the top of a set of stairs with a pink teddy bear backpack

And there's like a living tree(kinda like harry Potter)

[zinc depot]

how old

System?

[grand falcon]

Pretty old

I think like on the original Xbox

[olive seal]

The pro gonna find it

[grand falcon]

It was either the original Xbox or Xbox 360

[solid sun]

never played Xbox, so I can't help there, but it sounds like something you'd find in a game

[zinc depot]

Was it cartoony graphics?

[grand falcon]

Nah

[zinc depot]

Point and click?

[grand falcon]

I wanna say it was like halo type of game/graphics

It was a FPS

And it had weird monsters

[solid sun]

just vibe checking that it wasn't a Timesplinters game

[zinc depot]

Was the little girl the main character?

[grand falcon]

I don't think so

If I remember right, you went inside this mansion, and near the front door is these stairs and shes at the top of the stairs

(Which the giant living tree is outside the mansion)

[solid sun]

? also can you stop saying that.

[olive seal]

Luigi mansion?

[solid sun]

it's very rude.

[grand falcon]

Whats Timesplinter

[solid sun]

Shooter game

[zinc depot]

xbox 360?

[grand falcon]

@solid sun

Wait.....I think you found it

[solid sun]

I just remember it had random stuff in it, so I just took a wild guess, it could have any of these things.

timesplitters.
Not splinters, mixing it up with splinter cell, words are too close to one another.

[grand falcon]

ya this is the glove thingy

although i cant find the one i played, because theres multiple and hard to find gameplayhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594661998915223583/1321894448082321418/image.png?ex=676ee5a4&is=676d9424&hm=6d38cec739776c30ffb9483a5b23b31f77dbcfce16ca6c07bfbd462ad4c4771b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=624&height=327

[solid sun]

how did you insert the image?

I guess I can just put the short in here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK2zojTbtO4

was this the girl?

she has a teddy backpack, but it's Blue.

[olive seal]

I want to play that game now, any remasters?

[solid sun]

technically there's a remaster of the games

I just don't remember in which game it was, I think it may have been a Hitman game, but I don't remember

[zinc depot]

Looks like you found it, gj nora

[grand falcon]

Ya

I just don't remember which game it was because apparently there's like 3 or 4 of them

So now I'm trying to figure out which one it was 😂

[solid sun]

3 that I know of.

it's at least a trilogy.

Personally I only played a bit of the third game.

I remember that Elk Boss being very scary.