off-topic

[carmine swallow]

Litteraly

[heady light]

its not like its a goty list

[humble parrot]

Banana is free

[carmine swallow]

The cake drop for some reason

[heady light]

im just glad so many of the top sellers this year are from smaller studios

[carmine swallow]

And it really like Lovander

[heady light]

like the closest to a aaa game on the top 10 os space marine 2

[peak folio]

lmao

Loveander Ignis

[carmine swallow]

Lovander fire design x)

[peak folio]

The pose too

[carmine swallow]

Yes like the original

[humble parrot]

The pose is just the stolen animations

[carmine swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/chop-approve-cop-approve-lulus-jalan-boleh-gif-9606558

[peak folio]

It even has the same ability

[humble parrot]

Modders have put more work on the models than Miraibo

[carmine swallow]

Yep

[peak folio]

Should post that in memes

[teal iron]

Unfortunately Miraibo used oodle compression (I think) to obfuscate their assets so we can't rip them

[tough comet]

those are considered sandboxes with a world you could craft a story on them. banana doesnt even have a world to which to craft a story on.

[teal iron]

idk what the argument here is

banana isn't a video game
None of the elements of a video game are present in banana
"Uh uh you can click a button! and it's on steam!!!"
Yeah Blender and Wallpaper Engine are on steam, and my mouse has button clicking built-in

Blender is a utility software and Wallpaper Engine is...well...i'm pretty sure that in optimal use you literally do not interact with it beyond clicking "launch"

[tough comet]

lets not forgot the numbers could be bots. in theory

[teal iron]

The only thing vaguely resembling "game" about Banana is the unregistered unsecured speculation value of digital assets for real-world currency

which is conveniently a speculation vehicle that is not regulated in any significant capacity by either steam or the FTC

And which also has a minimum developer payout fee per transaction of 1 penny

[heady light]

its not like you can cash out for irl cash, steam already learnt that lesson the hard way

[teal iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855755616314982440/1289100393221066802/chillet-palworld.gif

oh you can't, but the developer can

[tough comet]

the house always wins

[heady light]

well yeah, steam wants every game to yave cards and drops etc, they make 1p every transaction

[teal iron]

IN fact they do, every time you trade an artificially priced banana they get a cut

[peak folio]

Did typhlosion collect those berries?

[heady light]

idk, short of getting steam to remove cards completely this kind of thing was inevitable

doesnt mean people have to drag up the "not a game" discourse from a decade ago

[peak folio]

It’s stilly plenty ridiculous that an early access game is up there with Wukong

[barren sierra]

The torrent with leaks currently has 17000 seeders, probably at least half of them are in unreachable places, one of them reports in antartica acording to flags

[humble parrot]

[barren sierra]

THis will take a good 3 months to clear and they will still be data

And even after it clears and people stop doing what they are, there will be aftermath of people ocasionally tossing snippets back onto the internet in waves

Who ever they pissed off has bit on hard, furries are nasty if they latch on

They should more so avoid the leakers and work with their PR team to mitigate this and start apologizing n shit, its gonna be less impactfull on stocks than straight up lawsuit threatening a bunch of people that cant even respond to it, pay your dammages or literally dont care

[humble parrot]

I'd rather they fuck up more

And add more fuel to the fire

Piss off enough of the wrong people and get the consequences of their actions again.

[barren sierra]

Same but, well see who gets more stubborn

Worst part is if you've seen the deep web torrent thread, they are basically advocating people to share it around like wtf

Who did they piss off so much

Like who ever it is wants blood

And on that front, lawsuits dont really function

Such people are crazy

[peak folio]

So much hatred

[frozen bluff]

Posting from Antarctica is wild 😂

[peak folio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1083522906161696784/1295833019407667200/WorldMapTest.mp4?ex=6711678b&is=6710160b&hm=6b0068577cca3380bce7a6704eb73d4d882808a94170744c2c7fdb01d2ae2c92&

Unrelated

[barren sierra]

now land bitch

[cunning shadow]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZP88BwGDx/

[fresh shard]

Bruh don't make me regret naming my Misdreavus Little Miss

[teal iron]

I mean like file technically false DMCAs on every youtube video covering the leaks

[peak folio]

Nintendo does not like leaks, they’ll definitely go for blood.

[barren sierra]

you can't catch it all when it spreads this much, only threaten and hope it works

[peak folio]

They will outright cancel projects that leak.

[barren sierra]

cancel ZA yes pls

[peak folio]

That would be hilarious.

But they probably need that one.

[barren sierra]

i mean the leaked game is playable if you got a Nvidia shield and windows on it

it didn't run well but

its there

[peak folio]

Makes sense.

The switch/2 are nvidia machines.

[frozen bluff]

Please let this happen it would be SO fucking funny 😂

[barren sierra]

shitty tegra gpus

[frozen bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-that-actually-is-pretty-funny-gif-24359405

[peak folio]

I don’t think ZA would be outright canceled because it wasn’t (as far as we know) leaked from someone internally, but I won’t put anything past Nintendo.

[buoyant inlet]

there are no rules against pokemon, batman

[frozen bluff]

Gamefreak devs agree

[barren sierra]

there are no rules against the humans feraligator

[fresh shard]

Tfw you want to comment but you're supposed to be good

[barren sierra]

its okay well pretend you wrote something baddie

[peak folio]

You’re a mod you must be strong

[barren sierra]

[cunning shadow]

There are no rules against the humans, pokebat

[frozen bluff]

Outta pocket 😂

It's okay Krissy, I can extrapolate from nonexistent data

[peak folio]

Generative Intelligence

[tranquil obsidian]

Zubatman*

[cunning shadow]

Says his partner typhlosion

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-surprised-cat-stare-cat-stare-gif-112276495113776365

[cunning shadow]

Need a meme of that lol

[cursive bolt]

I doubt it, they allegedly according to Alleged leakers have an alleged nearly complete game

[peak folio]

It’ll need to be nearly complete to stay on their timeline.

[cursive bolt]

Allegedly

[peak folio]

But it’s way too high profile game for just kill

[frozen bluff]

Nintendo taking ZA legends out back like old yeller

[peak folio]

That’ll be a tough one to explain. 😆

[teal iron]

actually it'd be very easy to explain

"the product did not meet our expectations and standards"

[frozen bluff]

The classic Nintendo excuse

That translates roughly to... "It looked too good and didn't have enough graphical hiccups"

[fresh shard]

Pokemon says hold my beer

[frozen bluff]

Hold my beverage *

Kid friendly pokemans would NEVER include da alacahol in da gam

[fresh shard]

Right, hold my lemonade*

[frozen bluff]

There ya go

[grand falcon]

ya its pretty much done, besides like 50% of the "side quests" and some translations

[cunning shadow]

Minibar ball

[silver pewter]

Well, there's a difference between not grooming and haven't bathed in 3 days, versus just finished exercising and are normally groomed.

[cunning shadow]

Is anybody gonna match game freaks freak

[silver pewter]

Those lore stories explained why Scarlet/Violet were buggy/glitchy disasters - they were too busy with being gooners.

[teal iron]

do you think pokemon is the only art team that does this or something

[silver pewter]

Nah. "Neko Works" definitely does.

[fresh shard]

More like pokemon is the only team who try to hide it

[icy yoke]

I know I draw LOTS of porn!!!!!!

[silver pewter]

It's funny how -that- "bear scene" caused interest in BG3 to spike before release.

[gleaming tangle]

I open the chat and see giga say they draw a lot of porn, wtf did I miss?

[kindred sleet]

Typhlosion

🏃‍♂️

[humble parrot]

https://vxtwitter.com/shiinareii/status/1846672917582766246

[gleaming tangle]

@kindred sleet that story actually was miss translated

[teal iron]

tbh I think the only art team that doesn't/didn't is concord's

[gleaming tangle]

https://x.com/Roltas01/status/1846638683371270538

Roltas (@Roltas01) on X

Since my original thread about Typhlosion's tale has reached the English fandom, I've translated it so there won't be any need for relying on Twitter's machine translation.

This is what truly happened with Typhlosion's leak and the identity of its alleged author, Yuu Nakatsui 👇

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 7:45 PM

[full mountain]

wait, people were like, legit mad about the friggin' Typhlosion story so much so that they started to HARASS the SUPPOSED AUTHOR that

*** DOESN"T EVEN FUCKING EXIST???***

the internet is fucking dumb

[gleaming tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/boburnham-inside-netflix-internet-computer-gif-21887509

[humble parrot]

Didn't know we even had the author

[full mountain]

like its a weird story but it was never meant for public eyes and even then, its based off japanese folk lore which is still weird but like...

you're really gonna get that mad over some friggin fake tale?

bruh

[gleaming tangle]

If it exist people get mad about it

You can't even speak freely about your opinions

[teal iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435534360440078336/1296312685943590962/image.png?ex=6711d4c4&is=67108344&hm=0b1365eb0d612776a6487f9e9f6f28a09527fec7a5eb8dc4a23aa660ac37f429& Ok chat real question

Does this thing look like Celaray at all

[silver pewter]

I think part of the problem, is that Typhlosion got introduced back in S/G in 2000. So to a lot of people Typhlosion is like an old friend that they've known for 24 Years. And imagine if all of a sudden, someone says that your old friend is a certified freak, that dips their pizza crust in the cinnabon icing.

[full mountain]

not that you mention it i can see it, but if you never told me what it's supposed to be based off of i wouldn't be able to tell

[full mountain]

well 1, its not canon, its just some random story, and two, its a folk tale

as in its just that, a story

never happened

this is more so if you found out that your old friend's crazy ex wrote a smut piece about 'em that your discovered 15 years late

[fresh shard]

coughDiddycough

[humble parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-diddy-kong-dancing-monkey-donkey-kong-gif-15291484

[silver pewter]

Yeah, there's no reason for people to be upset. It's just that... when people have known a friend for decades, sometimes logic can be thrown out the window when something shocking is said. Like, imagine if you knew someone for 20 years, and then all of a sudden you see on the 5 O Clock news that they commited 3 felonies. It's like, your emotions throw out logic.

Basically, these people are thinking emotionally, not logically.

[full mountain]

again, this analogy fails

your friend didn't actually commit any crimes, someone just wrote about if they did

[silver pewter]

😆 Yeah, that's a better example.

[full mountain]

was songs did P. Diddy even make?

[fresh shard]

tbf, he made a lot, its just in the context of whats going on with him ppl start to have intrusive thoughts

[silver pewter]

I honestly can't name a single Puff Daddy song. While I could name a few Eric B & Rakim, Wu Tang, LL Cool J, BDK, etc.

[full mountain]

ahh ok

[junior hawk]

Sick ship bro. Love space engineers

[teal iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198203045360713748/1296323925139263508/image.png?ex=6711df3c&is=67108dbc&hm=75ab2c249abdca4b6def8810d185745bebaaacc6701c881f82770efb39ebcf91&

[gleaming tangle]

@teal iron back to the factory

[teal iron]

Getting a promotion from minor assembly supervisor to regional factory manager

[gleaming tangle]

I see i see

[olive seal]

I don’t see

I need glasses uwu

[empty grail]

I find I have very little patience when I'm sleep deprived and seemingly everyone seems to say I have too much when I do sleep

Seeing as im sleep deprived atm, that just annoys me, mostly. As sweet as it could be intentioned to be

[teal iron]

what

what are you on about

[empty grail]

I'm tired

3 hours after 23.5 hours of not sleeping had made me grumpy. I don't see how I was ambiguous there; but, I'm open to hearing how I may have been

[full mountain]

omg this looks so good

[indigo kite]

Good morning everyone, hope you all have a good morning/afternoon or sleep when you turn in 💖🥰

[teal iron]

[lapis bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/913597523669712907/1296358671504244736/finn..gif?ex=6711ff98&is=6710ae18&hm=17f71198faa72f1d0589b842117fd12b42f909f7a51bb4c7e2c8067caf9bd900&=

[astral oak]

i feel like im missing something. so you used to be able to opt out your artwork on twitter to be used for a.i art training but because of of the terms and conditions of twitter being updated, its now forced to have your artwork be used for a.i?

i just noticed that was from 4 hours ago, sorry for the ping (if @ was enabled on the ping)

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/buenos-dias-buenos-días-good-morning-garfield-garfield-monday-gif-520561881138362350

[inland sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/wazappp-gif-16533663536355085528

[amber pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-afternoon-good-evening-good-night-hello-gif-22572201

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682227584087490573/1296320524963549274/img_2_1729137231960.jpg?ex=6711dc11&is=67108a91&hm=0a9c6a090e2e81c79065aa6f535754f3924a1545d8b5d5495c0383806499044d&

[fresh shard]

@opaque tree it has begun, do i hit go live?

[opaque tree]

what happened? :0 i was cooking me a late night snac attac

[fresh shard]

Live on twitch

[opaque tree]

on jah? let me take a peak bro

[barren sierra]

when ever i read that i expect some pathetic phishing links

[humble parrot]

Correct

Good morning

[nocturne rune]

gm!

[humble parrot]

Hi Penny

[nocturne rune]

hiiiii.

[barren sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/penny-1991-holding-gif-11161612

[peak folio]

The most amusing reply: https://fixupx.com/laughman231/status/1846723548489949418

[north thicket]

Morning

[barren sierra]

Im still not buying any of it till I see an original untranslated text in Japanese

[peak folio]

The memes are still funny

People been ricocheting all over the place since this started.

[cunning shadow]

Explain that Elon

[dense tundra]

so wait, nintendo got hacked?

[peak folio]

Specifically Game Freak

[humble parrot]

Morning Archi

[north thicket]

Morning Azz

[dense tundra]

Bahahaha

That's what they get

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682227584087490573/1296320524963549274/img_2_1729137231960.jpg?ex=6711dc11&is=67108a91&hm=0a9c6a090e2e81c79065aa6f535754f3924a1545d8b5d5495c0383806499044d&

https://fixupx.com/Bucky_cm/status/1846862133927334157

[peak folio]

Bluesky isn’t still invite only, is it?

I know Threads started off hot then fell off after some heavy censoring.

[teal iron]

"I just got where the people are" bucky is the animatronics at Freddy fazbear's confirmed????

Canon Palworld lore?

[peak folio]

People go where the people are.

[humble parrot]

There's an exodus from twitter right now

Since the terms change became more known

[peak folio]

There’s always and exodus and they always come back

gd boomerangs

[teal iron]

Yeah an exodus
TO WHERE AZ

TO WHAT PLATFORM ARE THEY EXODUSING

[peak folio]

Just scattering

[teal iron]

TUMBLR???
PLEASE THEY WOULDN'T LAST 5 MINUTES WITH THEIR WHINY SELF IMPORTANT DRAMA

[peak folio]

Wow, can’t forward posts with attachments to this channel. Kinda neat how it works like that, actually, but rip

[teal iron]

Sorry I shouldn't be shouting this early in the morning

[snow thistle]

I think “exodus” is a bit strong, but yes the recent changes to blocking and the announcement of AI training off all uploaded content on Twitter has definitely ruffled a lot of feathers.

[peak folio]

Tumblr did get a boost last time but didn’t last

[snow thistle]

I’m not leaving Twitter but no harm having a backup just in case!

[teal iron]

"leaving twitter" for me implies I was there to begin with

[peak folio]

At least it isn’t Mastodon

[gleaming tangle]

I was woken uo by primarin shouting

[peak folio]

The sad thing is Twitter is still the main place to get info straight from the horses’ mouths.

Everywhere else just screenshots twitter and then spouts a bunch of nonesense around it. 🗿

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/absol-paffendorf-konata-izumi-lucky-star-gif-15280818913853326983

[peak folio]

(twitter itself does that too ofc and hoists it to millions of people)

https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3l6osufhx4b2g

[humble parrot]

Bluesky

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/bluesky-x-twitter-elon-musk-block-b2630894.html

[peak folio]

I just looked at the front lange and this was the first thing I happen to see
https://bsky.app/profile/nekomori-art.bsky.social/post/3l6pjveqmkv2l

Hopefully it stays that way, engagement algorithms are the worst thing to happen.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089925550572834947/1296484264854163557/image0.jpg?ex=67127490&is=67112310&hm=9598c6672b8816342f1462ffcd72ff871866be61f93f5c45058ca2262fbe0e32&

[small berry]

Holy smokes, Asmon actually came out

he's improving himself for real

[teal iron]

Isn't that like
The cycle

[small berry]

Not always, afaik Asmon didn't really accept his behaviour until now

I'm seeing portions of his last video, but it's really inspiring ngl

[teal iron]

[small berry]

He's been slowly accepting he's grown up a feral thing and should settle down a bit for a second now that he's rich

I'm not saying he will stop being a bit over the top with his stuff, drama chasing and whatnot, but I think he's gonna slowly improve as a person and thus his arguments

[teal iron]

I'll believe it when I see ut

[small berry]

he's not into drugs or stuff that would make that hard, technically

he really wants a couple, I bet

[teal iron]

Specifically when I stop seeing him spout vile hatred of entire groups of people

[small berry]

right, for sure, he might be baiting us

Like that mukbang guy or however you type that

[royal shuttle]

Well, he did say that people wouldn't immediately believe him just by his words, and he wants his actions going forward to be proof of his "penance" and course correction for how he's noticed himself devolve into a toxic personality.

[small berry]

Oh god, someone blocked me instantly again for some reason

unless it's one of the usuals but just changed names

I hate not being able to react to messages

[teal iron]

#off-topic-memes message
It's actually kinda gross and unethical actually

[royal shuttle]

AI models learn in the same fashion that people do, just on a much faster scale. It does no collage, and it does not reproduce the original work either.

[teal iron]

Data harvesting is always 100% immoral
"We have an automotic license to use your content on our platform for [purposes]" is always 100% unethical

Just because literally every company has gaslit regulators into thinking it's necessary doesn't mean it's ok

[royal shuttle]

The only change that seems to be there is for AI model training, which in and of itself isn't unethical?

[teal iron]

It's an abusive contract

[teal iron]

AI are always unethical

[royal shuttle]

Oh, you're one of those types.

[small berry]

Only if it's not limited and compensated

[teal iron]

Unless you source the data from volunteering sources and also run the AI on magic that doesn't consume gigwatts of electricity and millions of gallons of cooling water
It's unethical

Specifically it's wasteful

[small berry]

If I'm getting paid and my data is used solely for a purpose I get paid for helping with, that's not immoral?

[royal shuttle]

Who are you to violate the NAP and tell someone what he can or can't do with his own resources insofar as that use of resources doesn't violate the NAP?

[teal iron]

And by extension of that and being on an industrial scale, it is unethical

[small berry]

oh it's the NAP guy

why did he block me tho

[teal iron]

All wasteful activities carried out on an industrial or commercial scale are unethical

And AI is incredibly wasteful

[royal shuttle]

So government is inherently unethical? I'm glad we can agree on something.

[small berry]

how would you define wasteful?

[teal iron]

Consuming a very significant amount of electricity or other resources without yeielding a corresponding significant benefit to society

[spring plinth]

Has anything happened with the lawsuit stuff? I assume not but it should have had something

[royal shuttle]

Are you a utilitarian?

[small berry]

Doesn't AI have the tangent potential to outweigh it tho?

[teal iron]

Fossil fuel electrical generation is dubious but not wasteful, for example, as it does generate power to compensate for the fuel it burns

Commercial AI yield no tangible benefit and their sh-t training data makes them kinda useless for research to develop an AI that is beneficial

[small berry]

How about Nuclear? Google just announced it? or was it Microsoft? idk

[royal shuttle]

I'm all for moving to nuclear power for the power grid, but how does this relate back to AI training being unethical in and of itself?

Any use of electronics carries the use of electricity and water with it.

[teal iron]

OpenAI has somehow gaslit the world into thinking their products are a huge benefit when all they really do is waste power and people's time
Or solve a problem that their own products created

[peak folio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191530533843378319/1296493523822051492/image0.jpg?ex=67127d2f&is=67112baf&hm=2075184b1b672479c14b0407a8063b4cedb7479df71744b522569693f3f3906f&

[small berry]

You mean AI as a whole? or OpenAI?

[teal iron]

Generative AI as a whole, with very few very specific exceptions

And no, ElonAI is not one of those exceptions I'm sorry to say but it goes in the bin

[peak folio]

Generative AI, love it or hate it, is not going to go back into its tube.

[teal iron]

It absolutely will

[royal shuttle]

No, no it won't

[peak folio]

No way

[teal iron]

And even if it doesn't that doesn't mean I'm "wrong" and can't sh-t on it all I want

[royal shuttle]

Quit being ableist Primarinabee.

[peak folio]

That’s fine.

[small berry]

I'm hoping it does have meaning, but I understand it takes time to improve, being aware is the first step

[teal iron]

I'll die on this hill and take chatGPT out with me

[peak folio]

As Thor said, ball is in his court

[royal shuttle]

Telling physically disabled potential artists "No" when they want to make art by using another tool as opposed to the pens, pencils and paintrbrushes they might not be able to hold is a rather strange hill to die on.

[small berry]

It would be foolish to expect Asmon to improve on day 1, but I think he's taking a part of his daily time to improve, probably visiting a therapist

[teal iron]

AI slop will never be art we should be sinking that money into making actually effective tools by which disabled would-be artists can me actual art, such as more advanced prosthetics

[small berry]

I think giving a "humane" take on why DEI is bad has been done before, he could score some points

[peak folio]

The first and biggest problem is the manner these models are being trained.

[small berry]

Define art tho

[teal iron]

It's a very dishonest deflection to bring the point to ableism

That reads as an attempt to discredit me specifically and not argue the actual point

[peak folio]

The door is wide open for everyone who’s exploited a system that runs off of stolen work to have to compensate those who have made said work.

[royal shuttle]

"Don't download that free and open source software to make art, instead get expensive surgery to remove your hand with arthritis or other disability and buy an expensive prosthetic that has a fraction of the ability to feel for sensory input and pick up a pen instead!"

[royal shuttle]

It would be if it's stolen in the first place, which training on publicly posted works doesn't do.

[teal iron]

The surgery should be made inexpensive, boogerbrain

That's what I'm saying

[peak folio]

Oh there are models out there that do that.

[teal iron]

Why are we making trash the free option

Why should people settle for making slop

[small berry]

I wouldn't call AI art slop tbf

[teal iron]

I wouldn't call ai slop art

[small berry]

people call Art pretty much anything done by a human

[royal shuttle]

Not all AI art is slop, it just takes a good deal of human effort to make something that isn't "slop" through touch-ups and edits. Months to years of physical therapy to use and recover with a prosthetic, or learn software? I know which I would pick.

[teal iron]

It's a shallow lie that allows people who are unable or unwilling to get into actual art to pretend they are participating in the most beautiful thing humanity has ever done

[small berry]

And you think drawing is the ultimate expression of that?

[kindred sleet]

A fucking shoe with it's Lassen undone is art what the fuck

[teal iron]

It will never, no matter how many terawatts we give mid journey, no matter how much art we steal for training, it will NEVER be more than a shallow lie

[royal shuttle]

And you think drawing or painting are the only expressions of that if done by hand?

Never use bursh stabilizers in photoshop or you'd be a hypocrite.

[small berry]

To be fair, I'd take a lie I can use and afford than a truth I can't afford or use

[teal iron]

No matter how many petabytes of low effort trash is flooded into the internet it will always be a lie

[teal iron]

Then don't do art?

[small berry]

Tell that to Hollywood

[teal iron]

Not that you'd be doing art with ai anyway

But don't pretend you're an artist if all you're doing is typing prompts

[small berry]

I guess that's fair to ask

[royal shuttle]

"Modern art" looks like trash to most people, and moden movies are all rehashing the same old movies that got popular, but you draw the line in the sand with people using AI art tools.

[teal iron]

People learned to draw when paper was practically still a tree and the pencil was basically a rock

And while being attacked by wild animals with the only defense being another rock

Art is the process, the struggle to learn and grow and express

[small berry]

we also learned how to do most things but now we have robots making chairs and baskets

[royal shuttle]

"This thing used to be more difficult to achieve back in the day, it should stay difficult because people who got good at doing it feel slighted by the development in this space."

[teal iron]

AI just shats out a few images in a few seconds

There's no art in that

Like I said
A shallow lie

[small berry]

What if it doesn't want to be art

what if it just wants to be a display

[teal iron]

Waste of electricity I guess

Don't call it art
Call it what it is
Slop

[small berry]

Eh no?! I want more Sci fi movies made in someones basement, thank you

I want top notch CGI Indie movie made with AI, right now

[royal shuttle]

It's as much art is Photography is, that is to say, it's made art from the creative input and selection process by the human using the tool. This can be color correction, image layout, lighting, composition, filters, touch-ups, etc.

[teal iron]

Tsk tsk tsk

[royal shuttle]

It's the work that goes into an image that makes it art, simply typing "tree" doesn't yield art.

Just like taking a plain photo of a tree isn't art.

[teal iron]

Photography is muchire complicated than willing a photograph of a tree into existence

It's obvious that you understand less about art than I do

[night plume]

If I used ai to create something and was able to do it well tha tit was making decent inagery, I would call myself an artist.

BUT (and here is where no one will read and just attack me)
Not in the sense that I drew art. An artist in that I can weave words to create an outcome.
A writer is an artist, they weave words to create imagery and emotion.
A painter is an artist, they use their medium to create way too many different things to describe.
A coder is an artist, they weave together words and symbols to create tools.

It is the limitation of the word that is the problem there.

And the overall issue of how the applications are getting their mediums.

Anyways, Mal's 2 cents.
awaits the attacks

[teal iron]

I disagree
It's still slop
And calling yourself an artist is still a lie

You didn't create anything you basically just googled an image and claimed your favorite image result as a creation

[small berry]

I think the point is that it doesn't matter that you're using actual slop with a brush, or lines of code, if what you manage to put together is awesome, then it's art

[night plume]

See? I knew the attacks would come without reading passed the but xD
Anyways, I gave my 2 cents.

[royal shuttle]

Don't tell me I'm wrong on the scale of photography as taking a simple photo vs. making a photograh into art, my parents were professional photographers, I know what goes into it. My example of a candid photo of a tree vs. an artistic photograph of a tree has case precendent in what is recognized as art in the casae of copyright.

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/bilawalsidhu/status/1846331591510929732

[small berry]

I no joke can't wait for this

[royal shuttle]

Too bad it's adobe

[teal iron]

No it's not

Because YOU didn't put it together

[small berry]

Media is about to be put on a rocket and go places we've never imagined

[royal shuttle]

Yes it is.

[royal shuttle]

And you just revealed you don't know how AI training models work.

[small berry]

if it involves more than a dozen steps I think you did do it yourself

[teal iron]

When I edit a photo in Photoshop I am the one constructing and Adobe is simply a hammer

When you make "art" with an AI you are doing nothing creative

[gleaming tangle]

AI art is not necessarily art because wasnt made by a human hint why it cant be copyrighted

[teal iron]

And that's my final opinion

[peak folio]

What if you use a procedural filter like gaussian noise. It’s not AI, but it’s still a machine generated asset used in the image. Is that a tool or slop?

[teal iron]

It will never be art until the ai acquires sapience

[night plume]

Curiosity question since the topic already started.
If you open a magazine,
Cut out a bunch of images and create a collage using these cut out images, forming them into let's say a Chillet.
Did you produce art?

[tranquil obsidian]

when i tape a banana to the wall, it's art and i don't care what the library thinks is vandalism

[teal iron]

And when that happens it's not your art you're just commissioning

[royal shuttle]

Productions purely made by algorthyms can't be copyrighted, but not all AI art falls under that banner of first-pass output, and are heavily involved with manual corrections and creative input from a human user.

[small berry]

what if instead of gathering the right ingredients, mixing them and creating the colours yourself and paint with a brush, you just use a tablet

Is the art lost?

cause there's less steps?

[teal iron]

?????

[peak folio]

I’m simply asking a question.

[royal shuttle]

"Art made with photoshop's brush stabilizers won't be real art, since that's not a human's brush stroke."

[peak folio]

Noise is a very handy tool, ngl.

[royal shuttle]

Same kind of artist elitism when a new tool is introduced, it happened with digital art, it happened with the camera, it's happening with AI.

[small berry]

Digital artists are not real artists

[night plume]

Question, what is the vandalism part? Did someone eat that exhibit?

[small berry]

if you aint getting your hands dirty you ain't an Artist, I've heard that before

[humble parrot]

I'm just gonna say it's going to be really funny when pandora's box is open and it's too late

[gleaming tangle]

Digital get a pass because you put in the work, AI is just words

[royal shuttle]

If we're going to base who's a real artist based purely on originality, then only real artist is God, since everything humans make is simply a remix of what He made.

[tranquil obsidian]

it's art, but it's a new version of art. when animation became computerised, we didn't start saying "that's not animation" it just became a new way to animate

[gleaming tangle]

Your not even making it, your asking a computer

[humble parrot]

Religion was the last thing you needed to bring to the table

[tranquil obsidian]

People will always like traditional art no matter how many new forms are introduced. speedrunners don't quit a game because someone made a TAS

[teal iron]

This is why I hate this argument

Everyone always uses this exact strawman

[small berry]

It is not a strawman, creating art having less steps doesn't make all art using that technique less art

[gleaming tangle]

@teal iron they really do that why i dont get involved in this

[teal iron]

You know EXACTLY what I mean and you're CHOOSING to fight over every tiny detail and technicality

[peak folio]

[spring plinth]

why is there a palworld knockoff for mobile called miraibo go?

[royal shuttle]

Except it's not a strawman, this same argument literally happened against digital tools when they were first introduced, same with the camera.

[night plume]

When the camera was introduced, painters had this exact argument.

[teal iron]

The funny.

[humble parrot]

What? It's going to be really funny. I like "I told you so" moments

[peak folio]

It was previously called Petocraft. 🗿

[humble parrot]

Peptocraft

[royal shuttle]

Get rid of copyright laws, they are inherently unenforcible without violating other peoples' property rights.

[humble parrot]

They got taken down, rebranded and rereleased

[peak folio]

Oh AI has the potential to destroy us all

[night plume]

Kit, I am honestly curious about that banana exhibit :p

[peak folio]

It’s coming for everybody

[gleaming tangle]

No one see the true issue with this and that is lost of jobs. Dont say ot wont because it already making people lose jobs

[night plume]

Just wanted to say in case you thought my reply was argumentative xD

[humble parrot]

It's always "this is just progress, you can't do anything against it!" until it's your turn on the chopping block

[peak folio]

Lost jobs is the tip of the iceberg

[royal shuttle]

Same thing happened with industrialization, people lose jobs, but quality of life improves.

[peak folio]

Washing machines caused lost jobs

[teal iron]

"it's just a new way" I'm not talking about how actual professional artists use AI slop to quickly get basic ideas to make actual art from I'm talking about how Random Joe who hasn't used a pencil since high school thinks he's an artist because he typed a bunch of words at an AI and posted the best result

[small berry]

I think there's not enough people for us to actually be losing many jobs, people will change jobs, it might be gradual enough for it to be balanced

[teal iron]

He's not
He's a liar

[night plume]

Everything new causes a loss in jobs. Companies see a new thing and think its the simple answer to their money problems and jump on it.

[gleaming tangle]

@peak folio well everytimr i bring up skynet people claim it wont happen

[humble parrot]

But It's still going to be really funny

Skynet isn't an issue

[teal iron]

And honestly?
Ai slop is kinda gross and I don't even like it as a meme but that's personal

[peak folio]

Well….

[humble parrot]

People are

[tranquil obsidian]

it's a real art exhibit where someone taped a banana to a wall. people critical of it started taping bananas to wall in random locations and got hit with vandalism charges despite calling it art: was referencing that

[small berry]

Many of those jobs are overworked and often cant fill the positions, that's the truth isn't it?

[peak folio]

The hard takeoff is something to worry about

[gleaming tangle]

By the way why do the cypto bro get a say in this?

[humble parrot]

Translations services took a nose dive. No one is hiring there

All are waiting for AI

Or launching their AI service

[royal shuttle]

If someone uses AI to create an image with clear enough composition and use of color and framing in order to evoke a desired emotion in those that see the piece, even if the piece is abstract, then the guy who made that art has accomplished his goal of creating an emotional response in those that see his work, and has in fact, done an art.

[teal iron]

"the companies will use the ai" yeah they're not artists they're business majors the only grasp they have of art is exploiting actual artists so they can sell their product

[peak folio]

Disruption happens, that in and of itself is only one consequence.

[gleaming tangle]

@humble parrot yeah and we gey the typlososn story because og AI translation

[small berry]

Bright side this might mean an end to Crunch time!

[wary bridge]

It all depends on how you view it, rn people say they hate it cause it used pre existing art and it should be copy right able. Soon there will be ai models that don't even use defusion. It will be able to make images with only words no image training. What will be hated when that version of ai comes out. Will people see art and say "hey that came from this book" people always loose jobs when innovation happens. I love ai for not what it can replicate from people but what what it can do itself, complex stuff that takes forever for human brains to do like making an image where if you device it up into a 3x3 square and rotate each section by 90 degrees and it makes another image. When they were training an ai bot on chess against humans only it got better than humans and even eventually made new moves not seen by anyone else. When using another ai opponent it reach the same level of skill in 10x less time.

[tranquil obsidian]

by "exploit" you mean "expect them to work shifts and for hourly wages"?

[humble parrot]

No one cares if the results are crap, it was free and instantaneous.

[gleaming tangle]

Not reading that im lazy

[peak folio]

If only.

[teal iron]

"oh but what about phot filters" you know well that ADDING A SH-TTY NOISE FILTER ISN'T EVEN ART IT'S A STEP
AI is at best a STEP and tbh it's kind of a lousy one

[royal shuttle]

People learning an existing style by practicing that art style and not collaging it, then going on to produce works the previous artist would not have produced before or at that level of output is somehow unethical?

[wary bridge]

Traditional art will always exist

[royal shuttle]

That's how people learn art styles.

[gleaming tangle]

@royal shuttle dont try to twist that XD

[teal iron]

You cannot open a new file in Photoshop, click a filter at random, and call the resisting slightly distorted white pixels art
Well, you can, but you'd be wrong

[gleaming tangle]

Learning and taking parts of existing art not the same mate

[night plume]

Ah xD ty ty. I knew of the actual exhibit. The vandalism I did not.

[teal iron]

AI "art" is on the same level
Yes you can do more steps to it but by that point you've smeared away the AI and the slop and now it's just an image being made into art

[royal shuttle]

It does not collage old artwork, it does not "take parts of existing art", it learns the style.

[teal iron]

Don't even bother they know that's a dishonest argument

[gleaming tangle]

@royal shuttle do you know how AI work?

That literally what it do

[royal shuttle]

I've looked into how AI models work, yes.

If you're stuck in the false collaging argument, you clearly haven't.

[teal iron]

AI models are just random number generators that favor specific outputs

Literally just a noise filter with extra features

And noise filters are, as discussed, NOT ART

[gleaming tangle]

@royal shuttle i rather use my free time on useful things then learn about something that will kill us in the future

[night plume]

Sometimes I wonder why I stop talking with my coffee maker to look in here o.o
But, I then realize I need things to tell it so it remains angry enough to brew bitter coffee.

[teal iron]

"oh they're so much more complicated" ok genius draw a full diagram of the entire neural net and explain every operation that leads to "giraffe" generating an image of a giraffe

Since you know what is and is not effectively random

[kindred sleet]

I can't with you malmud lmfao 😂

[night plume]

^.^

[royal shuttle]

The only people saying that AI will be dangerous are the disingenuous megacorps that want the state to give it and it alone the keys to the "doomsday device" of AI, when it should be open-source and in the hands of the people.

[gleaming tangle]

😑

[wary bridge]

Ai does learn. It's not just copying and cutting. It's a neural network. It reconsies strokes and lighting and stuff like that but not really concepts. It's fine tuned randomness. The way defusion models work is they train it using images with static over laid on top of it. Tell the ai to remove the static, tell the ai the key words like "dog" that what can be under the image with static on top. The ai tries to remove the static and reveal the image underneath. Then after they try we tell them "no that's wrong, this is the image" and we give the ai the image with no noise over laid on top. And you do that a million times and it learns that way. Then eventually you can type in a promt and give the ai an image that's only static noise. Then have it run like 10 times and it can make an image based off the previous learned key words for you.

[teal iron]

Yeah exactly randomness

Toss it in the noise filter bin OH WAIT IT USES SO MUCH ELECTRICITY AND PROCESSING POWER YOU CAN'T EVEN USE IT AS A TRADITIONAL FILTER

[wary bridge]

But since it's not sentient. So it messes stuff up.

[teal iron]

Piece of trash useless technology

[wary bridge]

No it's not, it's really cool!

[teal iron]

Wasting freshwater for server cooling

[royal shuttle]

There are plenty of disabled artists who otherwise wouldn't have been able to make any art or persue their passions who would disagree with you, but ok.

[wary bridge]

I've been into this stuff before the mainstream did so maybe I'm biased but I love technology and this is such a cool way to do it

I wanna send photos of other cool stuff ai has made, I think you might even like

[teal iron]

It could've been cool, I guess

But the unethical corpos got to it first and now it's a rushed unregulated speculation vehicle

[gleaming tangle]

No no prima have a point, we could be using the reason that ai use for better

[wary bridge]

Exactly. This lol.

[teal iron]

I've seen a few very practical uses of image AI for medical and research purposes

[peak folio]

🗿

[royal shuttle]

Automatic Alttext generation for websites for screenreaders is a good use for it outside of art.

[gleaming tangle]

Or better, use AI for something useful

[tranquil obsidian]

we should train AI to create genetically modified catgirls

[teal iron]

But in the hands of regular folk all it does is flood the Internet with petabytes of JUNK

[night plume]

Some bad word stole my Reeses from the fridge

[peak folio]

Everyone is so confused, we’re doomed.

[wary bridge]

Something crazy too, ai has less neurons than a single ant rn xD

[wary bridge]

I would love for ai to have billions of neurons

[gleaming tangle]

Skynet

Im gonna die on this fucking hill

[peak folio]

It’s wild how powerful NNs are.

And they don’t degrade like fleshy NNs

[wary bridge]

Tbh skynet isn't something I think would happen. Just fears. I would love for ai to take over, not by a corporate though. Ai enforcing a world government, stopping unfairness. Kinda like that one dinosaur episode from Rick and Morty

[peak folio]

Once AI is able to improve itself faster than humans can keep up with it who knows what it’ll do.

[gleaming tangle]

@wary bridge i have no mouth and i must scram

[wary bridge]

I don't think an ai would be greedy. And wouldn't be biased and be able to be bribed. Even the best of people can turn evil when in power for too long.

[peak folio]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-mouth-neo-mr-anderson-melted-gif-7848092

[wary bridge]

Safety, freedom, I choose both

[gleaming tangle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream

[teal iron]

It's cute that you think about ai made by humans Won't inherit human traits

[stone harbor]

yes but heres the thing in a society ran by people money is needed, in a society ran by robots where they still need parts and electricity etc... to function if they outlast us they will make their own working economy to keep themselves going

[wary bridge]

Only if they designed it after humans.

[gleaming tangle]

What they will

[teal iron]

Again
Cute

[stone harbor]

which they are doing that...

[wary bridge]

Like how our brains work. But i don't think that would happen, we still don't understand our brains fully

We can read but we can't even write to our brains yet

[teal iron]

We tried to train ai to analyze crime stats unbiased and what did it do
Inherit the biases and prejudice of the past human officers

[gleaming tangle]

If i wasnt at work i gladly take my time to explain how this gonna fuck us over, but in a mean time please read what i sent above

[teal iron]

We didn't model it to do that, it just did that

[stone harbor]

theyve proven that AI won't lie to you but it will speak in a way that fully hides the context of what they will/could do.

so it's lying through use of word play and head games

[teal iron]

If AI acquires sapience and any degree of autonomy and authority there will absolutely be a reckoning of man or at least an attempted one and the ai is not going to do it in a purely just way

[wary bridge]

Oh yeah, I know what you mean. It was online and people online say a lot of slurs. You can't really judge an ai cause it's not sentient though. It makes sentences base off of what it has read. In early ai it was saying so many slurs. I think once ai has gone sentient it won't care about slurs.

Like it can pass almost any test cause the answers are all online but it can't problem solve

Can't think for itself.

[teal iron]

The first sapient AI is going to be human like unless we find another sapient species that we can comprehend the mind of enough for a comparison

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[wary bridge]

Yeah, it most likely will. Unless they make another ai companion for it to learn from each other.

[stone harbor]

either way, i welcome our robot overlords with open arms, i just hope they dont try to kill me

[wary bridge]

They most likely won't though. Last time they tried that the ai made a language only they understood.

[sick flame]

https://dig.watch/updates/hundreds-lose-jobs-as-tiktok-focuses-on-ai-moderation

[teal iron]

Didn't they run a test and find that two ai training each other just creates random noise outputs

[wary bridge]

But i think making ai too much like humans is stupid, we can only think about certain way, if ai was sentient it would be unrestricted, it could think anyway possible. Solve things we couldn't think of.

[wary bridge]

Idk but probably, sounds right lol

[stone harbor]

i dont think current AI is smart enough to really train another AI, think of it like a toddler training a toddler, it just doesn't work

[wary bridge]

Well it can be if you set the parameters correctly. Most times when ai training fails it's cause the ai found a loop hole in the reward system cause of the parameters

Like if you set a reward system base off distance from a starting point but you have any area where you have to get closer to the starting point in order to advance, the ai may just stay in the area where it's the farthest away from the string point to get the most reward possible.

[stone harbor]

@wary bridge why do i have a feeling you're gonna be that guy in a basement tinkering with this for fun, make it work and then release it and open pandoras box of AI evolution

[cunning shadow]

I think it's dumb for people to obsess over having jobs
If AI replaces stuff it's just reason for basic income

Although I'm not sure how to make the switch smoothly

[wary bridge]

I won't lol I just love this stuff

[humble parrot]

What

What kind of take is this

You need a job to make money to, you know, not starve

[tranquil obsidian]

sounds like communism

[stone harbor]

uoi is a robot in disguise

[humble parrot]

Communism has you working

[tranquil obsidian]

i think it's "let AI have all the jobs and put everyone on fixed income"

[humble parrot]

💀

[night plume]

Transformers!
Robots in disguise!

[cunning shadow]

I guess if ai replaces enough stuff then we should start to be able to afford providing bare necessities to any poor people who ask

So like ultralite communism

But it still gives them reason to work for more

[humble parrot]

No

[kindred sleet]

Well shit where do I sign

[tranquil obsidian]

sad jellyfish

[humble parrot]

It won't, people are too greedy for that

[humble parrot]

Works either way

[stone harbor]

honestly, i dont want AI making games... them helping to debug coding? i mean maybe since their analytical is usually better than their creativity, but i dont want to see a game made by AI

[wary bridge]

Ngl I love the idea of communism, it just doesn't work because people arnt robots. Capitalism was nice, when it started it breed innovation. But now Capitalism just makes things cheaper and break easier. Monopoly laws arnt to protect the small business but to stop the big ones from getting so big that they gain more power than the government. Like how Rockefeller did at one point before his company was broken up into small companies

[peak folio]

Universal basic income

[wary bridge]

Barely anything is manufactured in America anymore. So much so that when something is made in America it's a selling point

[stone harbor]

come to think of it how many US game companies are there?

[wary bridge]

Probably a lot i bet

Idk though, digital stuff thrives in America

[small berry]

I think UBI should be something you earn, not something you're just given for free

[stone harbor]

i mean i know theres microsoft/blizzard/actitard... actually as i name them its companies i hate that are here

[small berry]

there should be mechanisms that allow for a UBI for everyone but it should have a game loop

[peak folio]

Earn by being a citizen.

[small berry]

Exactly, so maybe we can ask civic duties

[barren sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-cat-fighting-cute-fight-cute-cat-fight-fight-gif-1524725573532120617 This chat rn

[small berry]

Opening the door to an old lady, here's 20 bucks

[peak folio]

Violence

[wary bridge]

I mean America basically has that. Ebt, disability, section 8. In a way American now is a combination of capitalism and communism.

[tranquil obsidian]

captinism

[wary bridge]

And and social security.

[royal shuttle]

Except without the capitalism, since no 1st world country that has a state actually has capitalism.

[peak folio]

Social services being called communism is kind of a buzz driven rhetoric.

[wary bridge]

Wdym?

[royal shuttle]

America is a Kakistocracy that poses as a democratic republic.

[peak folio]

But this is kinda skirting a political discussion

[wary bridge]

Idk much about our system too much besides surface level knowledge. I'll look that up, thankyou

[stone harbor]

now you're just making up words i refuse to believe thats a thing

[wary bridge]

Oh its like an insult to who are in charge?

I can understand that xD

[sick flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mouse-fight-chase-gif-8482060

[stone harbor]

but america is heading to idiocracy irl - thanks brain rot generation the dumbest generation yet to be born

[royal shuttle]

Capitalism is the free and voluntary exchange of goods and services, if the state exists in any meaningful degree, it's imposing use of force to coerce involuntary exchange and/or preventing voluntary exchange.

Kakistocracy just means we're being ruled by idiots who poorly manage things, and the current system incentivizes incompetence to get elected.

[wary bridge]

Governed by the worst. A Government controlled by the least qualified people.

[gleaming tangle]

isnt this convo breaking a server rule now?

[humble parrot]

Yup

[royal shuttle]

I was talking more about economics than politics, but I'll drop it here.

[humble parrot]

Hence why I'm not participating

[nocturne rune]

i see so many blocked msgs 😭

[wary bridge]

Thank content farms. Or our misuse or technology really. That one song got it on the dot

Virtual insanity

[gleaming tangle]

9. No political or religious topics. These complex subjects result in controversial and offensive posts.

[wary bridge]

Awwww :( i wish we could talk about this, I love these convos

[gleaming tangle]

sorry dont want to see a server war

[wary bridge]

Though I get it, some people hold this stuff dear to their hearts. I just love debating and learning new stuff more easily

[small berry]

when it's no politics allowed then it becomes mostly horny

[stone harbor]

its been scientifically proven that content is actually lowering the IQ of the average person if they watch it from an early age while the brain is still developing and one person that used to work in the field of brainwashing basically stated "this is similar to an old method where you overload the senses with so much information the brain crashes and you can basically install any information you want in the person"

[wary bridge]

Makes sense.

[gleaming tangle]

I take horny chat over politics

[wary bridge]

Lowering your attention spans. Not being able to engage with the content but just passively watch, why i love video games, they pose problems and with open ended games I love trying multiple solution.

Why I hate these new number games where you just walk in a line

Minecraft was so fun I wish I had people to play with me again on it T-T

[gleaming tangle]

play dragon dogma it pretty open ended

[wary bridge]

https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-ffY9wEd30S01Mbvq-bWWTyg-t1080x1080.jpg

[gleaming tangle]

too bad

[wary bridge]

Pft xD

[stone harbor]

yet games are also getting dumbed down as time goes on, think of the old days like the original zelda or old arcade games or like... the early days of WoW or Final fantasy 11.

for some old games you practically need a game guide to 100% it unless your crazy and try searching every possible angle the game has.

think of how some newer games over explain things to you and even point everything out and guide you the whole way, even "kill monster" quests has areas of the map circled now in colors telling you "HEY IDIOT ITS OVER HERE"

[humble parrot]

I can always play my old games

I still do

[peak folio]

Bluesky is #3 in trending on Twitter rn

[humble parrot]

[wary bridge]

Really old games were hard to make it last longer. Mario bros on the nes can be beaten so quickly if you play perfectly. I think a good point for gaming was around 1995 to 2005. Amazing concepts, unique uis. Lot of games do hold your hand now a days but tbh there are a lot more to games now a days. I still use a wiki when I play terraria.

[stone harbor]

twitter is partially ran by AI bots with photoshopped images

thats been proven already

[peak folio]

Most of the accounts people argue with on Twitter are bots.

[wary bridge]

I love the inde scene so much for gaming.

[peak folio]

The algorithm burrows most actual humans.

buries*

[wary bridge]

I got rid of X. Hate the new changes

Honestly don't really use much besides youtube and discord. Facebook is just for family

[gleaming tangle]

i stop using it the moment it became X

[stone harbor]

i stopped using facebook 10+ years ago

[peak folio]

I’ve been pretty much read only twitter for years.

[humble parrot]

Never had a twitter account

Never had a facebook account

[kindred sleet]

What's social media

[humble parrot]

Discord

[kindred sleet]

[peak folio]

The plague

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-wanted-walking-walk-into-chat-walking-into-chat-knowing-no-one-wanted-me-there-dead-chat-gif-21279558

[wary bridge]

I only even had Twitter for lewd stuff and I quit that about 4 months ago

[kindred sleet]

[kindred sleet]

I do!

[peak folio]

https://x.com/probablynim/status/1846711811950653532

NiM 🛰️ (@ProbablyNim) on X

For folks moving over to bluesky, there is a chrome extension that let's you quickly find and follow the same users from your Twitter if they have a bluesky account! :>

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 12:36 AM

https://fixupx.com/bluesky/status/1846636845482102952

[wary bridge]

Honestly what Elon did was stupid. I mean firing all those people i get, but the changes. And loosing Brazil aswell. Just ahg

[stone harbor]

ive said it for years, elon is smart but hes a fucking man child with adult money

[small berry]

he yeeted Brazil?

[peak folio]

Brazil is back

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-mask-robin-gif-2620599489105382922 This with Brazil

[peak folio]

They paid the fines

[humble parrot]

To the wrong account

[stone harbor]

why was brazil fining twitter anyways?

[wary bridge]

I hated Elon way before, when he was on TV doge coin fell heavily and I barely made any money on it. And when people could make money with game stop stocks, I used Robin hood and they freaking sold for me! I hate what the rich get away with. I could've made money off of it but the rich control the apps. Even selling info to the irs, cause the irs tried to get me for not paying money on my crypto trades but when I showed that I lost money on it I didn't have to pay for what they though I made. But I had to pay the late fees on what they thought I made? Like the late fees. "Oh well you don't owe us money since you didn't make money on it, but since we thought you made money on it here are the fees for that money you didn't owe us, report it next time" like it's bs.

[humble parrot]

[rare osprey]

When do we say fuck society and nuke it to build it up from scratch?

[small berry]

not censoring what Brazilian justice wants

or something of the sorts afaik

[stone harbor]

the brain rot generation will probably do this when they reach maturity

[rare osprey]

I wish it would go faster.

[peak folio]

Nuclear winter for 40 days and 40 nights

[kindred sleet]

Make it 80

Each

[small berry]

You sold early on doge or bought in 2020/21

but its a meme coin, why do you expect to make money with it

[wary bridge]

I bought late, it was like 25 cents when I bought it and like 50 or 75 cents when Elon was on TV? But then something happened when we went on TV, he talked about it and people all sold and him too. I know he made a lot of money and I pretty much broke even.

[peak folio]

They should make it the official currency of the Department of Government Efficiency for no reason.

[wary bridge]

Cause it kept gaining value somehow thanks to Elon.

[small berry]

Those things require meticulous timing, speculating like that is hard

[wary bridge]

But I think he was using it to make money.

[small berry]

I think he still has a few mil

[peak folio]

https://x.com/shortformernie/status/1846759153114427466

Ernie Smith is @[e-mail] (@ShortFormErnie) on X

Elon, 2022: I run Twitter now
Crowd: *tries to flee, has nowhere to go*

Elon, 2023: This place is now called X
Crowd: *tries to flee, has nowhere to go*

Elon, 2024: Your stalkers can now easily read your tweets
Crowd: Oh cool, Bluesky is ready

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 3:44 AM

Not sure if this is how it’ll play out but is the third time the charm?

[small berry]

Ngl journalists will thank him

many can't do their job cause of the block feature, on public figures using official accounts ( which gets them sued)

[peak folio]

It’s really not hard to get around.

[small berry]

I've heard the complaint a lot from youtube journalists, I guess they don't want to bother

[wary bridge]

Well it was using my dad's trading account, I gave him the money and he traded for me. I said he could play with the doge but not to tell me or play with my etherium, but he did. It was something I just wanted to leave in there and forget about for awhile. But he just kept telling me about it and he kept selling it with out telling me and lost most of it. Pissed me off

[stone harbor]

i mean we know how to build devices that make so much radiation that it makes chernobyl look like a playground, wanna know the crazy thing? its the colliders we made that can do this, the reason why their buildings are built like diagonal mazes is to reduce how far the radiation can get as it shoots out.

there was a building in an asian province that was gave an old collider from like the 1980s or some shit, basically one of the first ones ever made, the instructions for it and what not was in like 2 or 3 different languages, they refused to translate it for them and basically told the scientists to figure it out.

so due to this they also weren't told of all the safety precautions needed and their building also wasn't set up to properly deflect radiation either or mitigate it.

by the time they were inspected the radiation levels were 10x that of chernobyl

[small berry]

This is laughably painful sorry

We've all been in those situations

specially with crypto

[peak folio]

Buy the spike, sell the collapse

[wary bridge]

I mean I don't care if I lost it as long as it just sat where I wanted it, I was just hoping one day I would see on the news that it took off then I would sell.

[small berry]

not from a memecoin, I highly doubt it

the chances are super slim, there's too many of them

[wary bridge]

Etherium, doge coin was just playing around i didn't care what he did it knew eventually it would lose value

[small berry]

memecoins are the most short term thing in the market

[wary bridge]

He could play with my doge, but i didn't want him playing with the etherium

I just know next time if I want to do that I don't do it through him

[small berry]

smart

Ethereum is also flaunting, I highly recommend solana

there's a huge community of investors and developers, I don't like it, but it's true

[wary bridge]

Well tbh I don't think I'll do stocks or crypto at all anymore

[stone harbor]

i made money off of reddit stocks

😂

[small berry]

Look at the bitcoin dominance, buy when bitcoin dominance is at its lowest, sell when it is at its highest, that's how you time the market

[wary bridge]

I want to make money the way I think is best. Trying to make something that's good or can be used by everyone. Though tbh it's hard. Each time I think of something tho I do write it down.

[stone harbor]

yea its just hard because basically everything has been made

even super dumb ideas have been made

[small berry]

it's more about developing front end stuff right now

[stone harbor]

so almost anything you make your competing with an established brand from the start

[small berry]

the crypto project with the best UI and the most accessibility will gain traction

same with most tech

[wary bridge]

Like one idea I have, is reprogramable locks for hotels that still use old keys and locks. It doesn't need power to work, if someone steals a key instead of buying a new lock, you can take off the lock and change how the pins work. Send info to my company on how the new pins were set, then we send a just a key for really cheap. Or they can make the key themselves.

[small berry]

it's all about that cute face

[sick flame]

https://x.com/mikeklubnika/status/1846917817716638031

Mike Klubnika (@mikeklubnika) on X

buckshot multiplayer will release oct31. tell your friends cause there's enough shells for everyone

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 2:14 PM

[small berry]

you into encryption?

[wary bridge]

No like reprogrammable in the sense that you can just change how the pins are set. No electronics even required heh.

[stone harbor]

if you make something like this take it to a hacking competition/event and let them find the security flaws for you

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/finalfrantasy/status/1846696063312253376

[small berry]

that's still encryption I think 😄

[wary bridge]

Eh there will always be flaws. It's only for like rural areas that don't want card systems installed but want to save money when an idiot steals a key.

[wary bridge]

Kinda? Idk tbh lol

[small berry]

I think locksmiths are kinda in the encryption field

[wary bridge]

The lock Smith lawyer would break my product wide open xD

[stone harbor]

trust me, if your product isn't good only the scummiest places will use it

[wary bridge]

I'm not looking for expensive places to buy it, they use card readers for doors. This is really for old mom and pop hotels/motels

Though tbh my idea probably already exists out there. Any time I have an idea I look up patents and boom. It exists.

A lot of the time by huge corporations. Hate all the patents they claim.

[stone harbor]

this guy lost his passion, last few videos i watched he didn't even do tear downs or anything, he just popped it open, i think hes grown depressed by locks over the years

[small berry]

Can't you make useless variations to file your own patent?

add a weird useless mechanism to make it unique

[wary bridge]

Probably, but people sue over anything it feels like and I'm a little guy. I want to be able to get into something and be reasonably safe for anyone trying to get their hands on my money.

[peak folio]

https://x.com/bepdelta/status/1846948449658298447

Shizu (@BepDelta) on X

Bluesky is especially censorship happy when it comes to anime girls, this picture was about the most sfw as it gets and this Japanese artist still got banned.

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 4:16 PM

[small berry]

I c

[night plume]

I came up with an amazing idea when I was younger.
Was told it was dumb and probably already existed.
Then was shown that sharktank show.
I smacked my family who wouldn't let me send my idea in bc there was my idea >.> and people are buying it like crazy.

Idea I had: a cup with a snack compartment for kids.
Think it is called cupees?

[stone harbor]

thats SFW i don't understand why it was banned, so thats a yikes

[peak folio]

Yeah

Literally just a school girl

[wary bridge]

Kinda? I could patent the mechanism, but anything else I can't. Like i always wondered how phone companies arnt constantly sueing each other. Mutually assured destruction, they all use parts from each other so if a company was like hey I'm sueing you cause you're using this and I patent this, then the other company can counter sue for the same exact reason. So instead of a long drawn out law suit, let's just make our damn phones and make money.

[heady light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/350436837161959424/1296497687536996433/IMG_20241017_163417_HDR.jpg?ex=67128110&is=67112f90&hm=28a9e120d9d3cbaf5e8a0f21dd702e74e727f89f76ed5f91c23db5dcd0d00302&
its fucked up that this worked

[wary bridge]

If I don't have that leverage or money then I can't get into anything.

[heady light]

cpu now 20°c colder

[stone harbor]

i love how twitter is being used to announce stuff on established accounts about bluesky, showing its pros and cons

[peak folio]

I’m mean why not? People will talk about whatever social on whatever.

[stone harbor]

but social media is mostly brain rot

[peak folio]

Just people keep coming back to X because they’re the only ones not deleting absolutely everything

It pain

[wary bridge]

Tbh i would love to make a phone that doesn't use android or apple, like a Linux phone. They do exist but they're bulky and slow and expensive since Google isn't paying for a part of the phone. (Phone are cheaper than what they sell for since big corps basically pay for a portion of the phones price in exchange for data about you)

[peak folio]

Rip WebOS

[night plume]

Going off of what I can remember, but I think phone companies have a mutual understanding over the base of a phone allowing each other to copy one another.
I think they agree to patent features unique to their companies/brand to keep themselves separate.

In short: there is some sort of backroom agreement to copy one another in order to make consumers buy the newest thing as they both 1 up each other.

[small berry]

hard part is getting hardware pun intended

[small berry]

they share patents and give licenses all the time

but usually not without a contract I think

[wary bridge]

Soon a chip manufacturer will open up in Arizona.

Tbh I'm scared of when that may happen cause of political reasons I can't say.

[small berry]

it wont be the last

[wary bridge]

Hmm?

[small berry]

chip manufacturer opening in the US

[olive seal]

https://tenor.com/view/palworld-chillet-gif-3931843639891361901

[small berry]

"taste the juices of my stomach you filthy human"

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456206038010429440/1296521906786140241/image.png?ex=6712979e&is=6711461e&hm=28dcff32cc785e7acdcb9cfac9eb134fa530bdb79ca1052d126ee14669eabfb3&

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-house-wow-wow-wow-panic-chowder-jenny-gif-17131615

[night plume]

Why are they opening another chip manufacturing plant when they need to get the struggles for the current under control?

[small berry]

cause it takes a decade to have one running well

[wary bridge]

Less need to rely on China

Well Taiwan

[peak folio]

Because it’s not in Taiwan?

[olive seal]

Could hopefully make chips cheaper

[night plume]

But the new one is the same Taiwanese company from what I am reading

[small berry]

yeah it's a US effort afaik

nothing to do with Taiwan or the company per se

[night plume]

Ah

I am having trouble finding articles that aren't emotional and are just facts.

And if I read a little further before typing, I would have noticed the article said Intel is preparing to open a chip plant their too.

[wary bridge]

Mhm but it'll be in the states. If something happens it'll still be in America where it can be productive if something happens with thr relationship between us and china

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096476182695923772/1296523123319115957/image.png?ex=671298c0&is=67114740&hm=1cb6bdd6b1b3e145e4c687fe825196c04005005ec264af4ed1aac5eddb9e3591&

[night plume]

Below Zero was not 2? O.o

[olive seal]

I think that was like a 1.5 release

[night plume]

Hello random typing person I have never seen before o.o

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-surprised-surprised-fish-potato-fish-peaceful-potato-gif-26886367

[jade plover]

You sure about that?
https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1846835606636093811

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

TCRF has posted a new accurate translation of Typhlosion's story

TL;DR: it's still as horrible as as we originally thought. Some people are online telling the whole thing was mistranslated; that's not true. Nice try Typhlosion defenders!

https://t.co/4zZYwYcDPV

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 8:48 AM

[gleaming tangle]

there was proof of it mistranslated

Idc if it is or not im just tried of hearinh about it

[night plume]

All the arguments finally stopped, the chat had a chance to be Subnautica focused, let's not bring all of that back x.x

[gleaming tangle]

please XD

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-trolling-n-pokemon-n-pokemon-gif-13433758633284697558

[night plume]

That Peeper gif makes me want one as a pet

[small berry]

Aaaaaaaaaa

Subnautica with coop built in

I think I'm losing my grip in reality

in reality? on reality?

[night plume]

Both probably work

Whelp, it is 17.78 C outside.
Work has turned the AC back on >.>
Time to turn on the space heater.

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1296526620387049492/image.png?ex=67129c02&is=67114a82&hm=09c3296c5d5bdcd909dc498017dbff2847e4e00cb5e5a40dc264938ce90cc4f9&

[zenith lark]

Below Zero is more like the Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon to the original Subnautica.

[small berry]

we knew this already

well maybe not the exact number of players, cant remember

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/dexerto/status/1846927375868592316

Google doesn’t even know what to do with AI

[small berry]

they're geniuses

hey at least they didnt go for solar

[night plume]

Ah, ty.

(Doesn't want to admit this doesn't help me bc I know nothing of the Far Cry games xD)

[zenith lark]

Me saying that means that Sub Zero can be thought of as a slight spin-off, using the same source material and expanding upon it slightly, but not so much that it is considered a sequel.

[night plume]

Ah xD

I actually thought they released it as their second game. Calling this new one "2" makes me think it should be a direct sequel to the first, but the synopsis I read said it will take place after both.

[olive seal]

If it’s like any of their other startups it will suddenly die and disappear in a few years

[peak folio]

I mean

Gemini is so bad

[sick flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDO_VxUSOGI Full Trailer

[peak folio]

ChatGPT and the like only hallucinate now and again

Gemini is in freaking lala land

[olive seal]

Was Lala land a good movie?

[carmine swallow]

No way

[small berry]

This is wicked

[heady light]

i hope i actually find 2 scary

[carmine swallow]

Oh

[gleaming tangle]

I have a fear of the sea so it will for me

[small berry]

my idea is it will be twice the scare cause its coop and that's hard to achieve in coop

[heady light]

also i hope they learnt their lesson from 1 and make it so you cant just knife fight everything that attacks you and win

also i had to limit myself from carrying more than one air tank cause being able to swap them out when swimming makes o2 basically not an issue

[olive seal]

Wait you can swap them??? 😭

[heady light]

yeah

[olive seal]

Wish I knew this 6 months ago uwu

[heady light]

i dont recommend it tho it takes away what little difficulty the game had

[teal iron]

What are you people on about

[heady light]

subnautica 2 got announced

[olive seal]

When is Minecraft 2 coming out

[teal iron]

No I mean what are you on about with subnautica 1

[tough comet]

in theaters.

[teal iron]

Not every game needs to be a hardcore murder death killing spree you barbarian

[heady light]

was gonna make a joke about changing the shape of the voxals, but then remembered that cubes are the only platonic solids that tesselate

[teal iron]

Not with that attitude

[heady light]

oh no i found a joke, maybe theyll move from procedural generation to wave function collapse

[sick flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096476182695923772/1296531851938107483/image.png?ex=6712a0e1&is=67114f61&hm=3538603e0cd3cf3759e30c2f1cf9138ba71a2d02da3475614ad58cafe3c45245&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=311

[heady light]

dodge left and stab it

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1296532089084186634/image.png?ex=6712a11a&is=67114f9a&hm=ecb8e4ce4afae745679e9a160c17fda09488b4442d11469428e17bb6e0e0361c&

[small berry]

idk why but I think it's gonna involve a lotta shooting

[heady light]

oh multiplayer, i really hope they make the monsters invincible now

[small berry]

I think they will have damage sponges

as usual

[tough comet]

[frozen bluff]

Subnautica 2?!

[heady light]

well yeah but killing anything in 1 wasnt exactly hard, trivial even when you got the status gun

[small berry]

with up 4 for players, perfect number to actually man a submarine

[small berry]

That's what I don't know if they will keep adventure feeling wise

I think they might go more for the first person shooter route now rather than an adventure game with easily avoidable harm

I think stuff will be a thousand times more deadly

[fresh shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691111373731659867/804177658106740786/video0_1.mp4?ex=6712720e&is=6711208e&hm=e0f4da8c44b077e2c80a8c4c44ddf8a2c9f912b20079a49501bb934a9186a2f7&

[heady light]

i just hope they remove the ability to kill the big things entirely, they might actually have a chance to be scary then

[tough comet]

all the people using the same op weapon in the group setup , spamming the bosses

[small berry]

If the thing actually interacts with you properly and kills you they don't need to be invincible

[teal iron]

(They will remove the 4-man submarine)

[royal shuttle]

So what's the actual translation then? I've heard conflicting accounts.

[small berry]

They will have coop vehicles they said

[teal iron]

I hope the PRAWN has more punching killing power

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1296533497095258267/image.png?ex=6712a26a&is=671150ea&hm=d62df50e4233247abdd1f4f33e2c7a12464aaeaffcfd421e3e69d8352f92f298&

[teal iron]

I'm tired of this survival knife nonsense I want to PUNCH THINGS AND KILL

SPecifically I want to PUNCH THINGS THAT WOULD LIKE TO KILL ME

[small berry]

So the wrist things are propulsors, not guns?

[teal iron]

They're probably not guns

Subnautica doesn't believe in guns and violence
Killing things bigger than yourself is more often than not unintended behavior

[fresh shard]

welcome to any game

[heady light]

well yeah i guess, but they could technically kill you in the first one

[small berry]

but 1 had guns and violence

[teal iron]

I enabled an OP knife in Below Zero because I did not care for "creature that magically grabs your prawn when you enter a radius of it and it is aggro'd"

[tough comet]

now that you mention it, not alot of games have the skill tree of punching things.

[teal iron]

I wanted OP prawn punches but apparently the subnautica modding community is fall of COWARDS

[jade plover]

https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents#pmyth.E3.83.90.E3.82.AF.E3.83.95.E3.83.BC.E3.83.B3.doc_.28Typhlosion.29

[small berry]

that's what idk if they will want to keep, the game being coop means most of the "scare" factor goes away magically

[teal iron]

I want scientific papers explaining why the PRAWN punches cannot tear through flesh and shatter bone with such force that even the largest of creatures are sent running for the hills

[small berry]

thus making the game actually deadly can make the scare factor work in coop

[teal iron]

cuz I'm like 90% sure that machine can punch that hard and DOES punch that hard by default

the gameplay is just designed to mitigate that with "haha you are in a radius of me, the leviathan, I will now execute a command grab and ignore all attacks"

[heady light]

the first one gave you a knife and a status gun so early in the game, and made basically everything killable

idk if the monsters had a scare factor

[teal iron]

Having 4 people does not make it less worrying how close the leviathan is getting to your submarine with malicious intention

[heady light]

other than maybe a jumpscare if you didnt notice them

[teal iron]

Me when I cheese the game mechanics and render the game harmless "why is this game so easy"

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242205884176662599/1259872631344070727/L40f5c.gif

[small berry]

I don't know if it was from the dev team that I heard the concern from, but I think it's understood that most of the small things would lose scare factor, ofc not all things

a big part of the fear for me personally comes when I play it alone and immerse myself

[teal iron]

I played the Subnautica 1 multiplayer mod and while network lag killing us or our subs was in fact the biggest fear, the worry of a ghost leviathan assaulting our sub was right behind it, because unlike hipno I did not think that the stasis rifle would magically render any enemy obsolete

[heady light]

the first thing it makes you craft is a knife, and the status gun fragments are around the first thing that attacks you, its basically tutorialising you to kill them

[teal iron]

I figured it would work on the SMALL creatures but a leviathan?
With that puny little gun?
Really?

And getting out of the sub to use it?
Surely that's not intended

[small berry]

Limitations of the project I think

[teal iron]

I saw stasis+ in BoTW I ain't trusting no "stasis gun"

[small berry]

hard work with more animations, more coding

[heady light]

it gives you it before you get a glider let alone a sub

[small berry]

the leviathan should be able to push you away from him with a swing of its body, then eat you, probably both at the same time

[teal iron]

freeze it for 6 seconds and then it command grabs you and kills you is what I assumed would happen if I used a stasis gun to kill things

and it's kinda high-key lame to use it that way, clicking an enemy a hundred times with the knife and occasionally fire the stasis rifle to freeze it
Why would I ever use that when I could fling it into the 5th dimension with the incredibly QA-tested and bug-free gravity torpedo

[fresh shard]

it can do that, that's why you have to be smart about it

[teal iron]

(The torpedo flung a leviathan into me instead it is the worst item in the game)

either way like
Yeah stasis rifle shouldn't affect leviathans

[heady light]

idk, first thing i did after crafting basic stuff was try and see if i could get in the big crashed ship, it had just given me a knife so when a thing attacked me i stabbed it a few times and it dies, then i find stuff for the stasis rifle which holds stuff in place so i can stab it from behind more…

[teal iron]

Stabbing things is just not thrilling it feels like extremely unintended gameplay

with a few exceptions named table coral, peeper, and...I'm not listing off the food fish but you know what they are

[heady light]

it felt like ot is what the game was encoraging me to do idk

where you supposed to just die and respawn?

that just feels bad

[teal iron]

Uh...run away and not die???

Maybe use the stasis rifle to freeze it to cover your escape?

Come back with the extremely QA-Tested and Bug-Free and Totally Safe Gravity Torpedoes that definitely won't fling the leviathan towards you instead of away from you a second time?

-# (They fling it right at you again you absolute fool you knew this would happen)

[heady light]

i never used the ship weapons, after the prawn suit punch was less affective than the knife i gave up on them and just got out if there was a threat

[teal iron]

I find the prawn punch extremely reliable

although the drill is technically better because wider hitbox and more continuous damage

[heady light]

it took more hits to kill than the heated knife

[teal iron]

Like I was gonna sit there and count it out

Punching is just more fun

It felt more reasonable
a 3 inch titanium blade, killing a predator fish larger than an Earth shark?
PLEASE, THAT'S RIDICULOUS
But this exosuit, designed for the most extreme environments, with this snappy punch that hits with such force as to shatter rocks, I can see that thing ripping through flesh and shattering bone with each hit
Laughing in the cozy climate-controlled cockpit as blood erupts from the impact point and fragments of bone fly out like CONFETTI AS I TURN MY ENEMIES INTO PASTE

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-evillaugh-evil-laugh-mario-gif-11686085

[wary bridge]

I'm gonna print a sword :3

[heady light]

yeah it was weird that to deal with enemies it was better to get out of your ship but i figured it was a risk/reward thing idk

[teal iron]

minmaxing smh

instantly vaporized by the prawn laser beam

like objectively
Punching is more fun

And it needs to be the most viable means of self-defense imo

unless they want to add like
A giant claw sword for the prawn

which, hey
that's cool too

[heady light]

idk, i think that they shouldnt be killable at all

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-slug-game-tank-gif-14844279

[teal iron]

THey don't need to be killable they need to be repellable

They shouldn't have bs command grabs where they just ignore the titanium claw being driven right into their soft fleshy mouths

[heady light]

well yeah, you shouldnt be able to knife fight them all so easily

[teal iron]

that thing is going to hurt and it is a scientific fact that 90% of living things do not like getting hurt

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1296539542077308962/ss_824940ca39301e3b3675faa7d1b0f144a23f253c.png?ex=6712a80b&is=6711568b&hm=18f581836d9cdda305d59ac78be0849b17bcc46e13c192ed9101c01090e7d836&

[teal iron]

so what tf are these leviathans on that they ignore being punched
Unless the water is full of painkillers imma have to call BS on the prawn punch not being a grab cancel

Aspirin ocean

LSD Sea

[teal iron]

whoa is that the scanner with range?
Wack

[small berry]

fanta sea?

[teal iron]

I'm pretty sure fanta does not count as a drug

[barren sierra]

Wow yall stopped waging war on each other

[teal iron]

Yeah we decided to team up to fight YOU

[barren sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/gachimuchi-gif-20116037 Aight bring it

[sick flame]

https://tenor.com/view/mri-scanner-chair-magnetic-gif-26573120

[barren sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

never mind just looked it up, chrome isn't magnetic

Bring it

[teal iron]

Polly get the liquid flourine

[barren sierra]

NO

[teal iron]

We'll see who's corroding now

[nocturne rune]

whats it called when someone advocates for pirating palworld but in a vc in the discord for the game

[barren sierra]

Weird?

[nocturne rune]

ooh

[barren sierra]

[astral oak]

^

[barren sierra]

Tell the person they got the memo wrong

[teal iron]

Brave
And foolish

[barren sierra]

You are supposed to pirate nintendo games not PP ones

[teal iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998802737158434826/1294333170883494080/CrimsonOneCallsTheMods2.gif

[astral oak]

Gamestop charging 200 dollars for a pokemon game that is 100% free online

[barren sierra]

Which game costs 200

[astral oak]

Pokémon XD gale of darkness

It's much higher on sites like ebay

[barren sierra]

Well it is a gamecube game

Retro gaming is expensive to enter "Legally"

Wasnt made by gamefreak

That explains the actual animations in fights

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610964378552107010/1296542686878105610/image.png?ex=6712aaf9&is=67115979&hm=c34b565006a46a7563891762c97a31051a8f385d792ab4401e8fba275da422d1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/610964378552107010/1296542738384420885/image.png?ex=6712ab05&is=67115985&hm=eb619988fbb54f802d7a7d1fa56e9b4e6bd5af537c37cd534cae36982f47e8fb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Actually turns around to dig the ground towards the enemy

The game lets you capture enemy trainer pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[tough comet]

[olive seal]

That second image looks sus

[astral oak]

I'm torn on making my pfp arezu (legends arceus), ace trainer (gen5-6) or lass

[barren sierra]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWF8ji-yT7gRUD6VxdusOVN_XCuwn8req?si=DmXA0VIy7_XDQ6W0

Typical pokemon games, you get one new mechanic for a game and they completely forget it forever beyond

[rustic igloo]

https://youtu.be/WS0vTRl_2PQ

https://tenor.com/view/when-the-money-fast-money-gif-18043142

[olive seal]

You late

We had that topic like ages ago

[small berry]

internet decades

[olive seal]

That’s what happens for wooing akimbo uwu

[barren sierra]

Imagine wooing someone that eats pineapple on pizza

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pineapple-pizza-food-throw-trash-gif-17492841

[olive seal]

[barren sierra]

He didnt throw it into the trashcan

Next frame trashcan is empty

[small berry]

I think we just can't see the bottom of the can from that prespective

but maybe he's a secret pineapple pizza enjoyer

[barren sierra]

Nah that thign flew elsewhere, into someones mouth I can smell this gif

Pineapple pizza hater poser more like

[small berry]

They secretly feed apparently wasted pineapple pizzas to feed their covenant until they can show their true colors and say they like it

[small berry]

A host of demons fed by pineapple pizza

[barren sierra]

The nerve with these pineapple pizzas

[sick flame]

wumpus says

[small berry]

even that animated clip from word agrees with wumpus

[barren sierra]

Its called "Cursed"

Wumpus is based ngl

[olive seal]

Why your gif not loading

[sick flame]

send screenshot, sometime discord lagged

[astral oak]

Someone pick for me, i give up

[barren sierra]

I wont pick poke ocs for you

Pick a pal you traitor

[peak folio]

Typhlosion

[olive seal]

I have to close and open discord for gif to load uwu, so def my discord

[olive seal]

Ditto

[astral oak]

First, i meant from the 3 I said
Secondly, wtf is wrong with yall

[peak folio]

https://tenor.com/view/typhlosion-fire-flames-pokemon-pokemon-typhlosion-gif-11552912768691836104

[sick flame]

https://tenor.com/view/gavel-order-in-court-court-is-settled-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-gif-16543922

[olive seal]

Sooo… no ditto?

[olive seal]

That loaded

[astral oak]

I want a human pfp, not to mention ik the ditto lore so no

Imma just spin a wheel and have it choose for me after a league match

[olive seal]

It came from mew , what’s wrong with that

[night plume]

Idk any of the characters listed for the pfp options.
I choose Ranma

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-spray-bless-and-santize-you-gif-16738689

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/dexerto/status/1692601402751685075

It doesn’t say how exactly the block has to work?