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yes, while you're out there probably scamming people in dm's
and the only one with an attitude, is you. ick. blocked
im a scammer for posting a link apperantly
how are they giving you attitude?
If someone appears with a negative attitude, it is safe to assume the link posted is a scam.
no, they're making a joke about how with your rambuncious behavoir in this chat leads them to believe you being here is no good
simple as
and oh no, i just posted it here cuz it was off topic elsewhere
following the serv rules!~
I am a bit confused. I thought the two of us were blocked?

No, but I can
See ya
childish
I wonder if I still have that ick medicine in the fish tank cabinet at home š¤
I have exploded solder all over my arms
preferably in a hole

I was pressing down a through hole fuse and it finally melted enough to move the pin. Though, my iron slammed agaisnt the board and solder; shooting it all over my arms.

Just realized that emoji say flush
Oh crap! Are you okay?
And yes I am okay
I assume that stuff is not exactly at room temperature... Any burns?
The only time I've exploded solder is using the solder sucker thingy o.o but it was only tiny beads and wasn't enough to do more than sting
isn't this considered harassment?
POOR LITTLE THING GOT "PEACE" from someone he never spoke to
Nah, no burns, just startled me more than anything.
Yeah I can imagine that definitely woke ya up, jeez Louise!
I hate those things, they always blow solder scrap all over the board.
I ignore that because she is clearly not flushed.
yes cmon, post about how you blocked me and wow... omg ur so BRAVE
drink a McDonald's sprite as i watch chat go to hell
..........
April fooooools
And now all the messages be deleted
They deleted some earlier too
Yeah idk why they do that
i would never delete any messages š
Yeah, but I'm alright, the worst scare was when I accidentally flicked solder at my glasses.
I'm of the mind set of "say it with your chest" but...
I'm more in the mind of live with your mistakes.
Ye
I assume they think deleting them keeps the mods from seeing them.
nah it's not even that š
Mods still can
There are āØļø logs āØļø
Oh no not the glasses, esp of they're a unique prescription? Those bitches ain't cheap
It didn't damage them at all, plus I have pretty good eye care so they aren't too pricey. That and my prescription isn't that bad yet.
I was joking about blocking ya but I also am starting to think you're not that pleasant of a person when you're "upset". Not getting a good first impression from ya
Poggy
A sprite actually doesn't sound bad atm š¤ I wonder how much they cost downstairs
that's okay, you don't know me irl (:
i do not
The McDonald's by me sell a large drink for a $1
It's been nice chatting, i must return to work
I am jealous your McDonald's still does the $1 large drink
Bye for now Cap'n, goodluck with the solder
It like the only one left that still do it
It make them bank so i think that why
I would get large sweet tea, go home brew tea, use their tea to sweeten the tea I made xD
but i will apologize for my harsh words, reading back i absolutely don't blame you for thinking that. lmao take care u
I dont like tea
don't sweat it, its fine
No like i dont like tea at all
I primarily drink water and tea.
The McDonald's by me puts so much sugar in their tea that I can use their large tea to sweeten 2 gallons of tea xD
Saves me money on sugar
Tea and coffee are not for everyone.
I feel everyone should try a good cup of each to be sure if they like or dislike it and try not to base their opinion on a bad exlerience version.
Btw if i reply to something not for me that because my phone discord never was updated so i dont see replys
Are you one of the lucky ones without the swipe to reply update?
whaaaaat?
Bro i only can see usernames
Mcdonalds watered down Coke is better than brand coke change my mind, at least in the EU, it might be that it's also freshly carbonated
My version is from 2017
Compact mode š¤®
My partner's Discord is very out of date and they don't have the swipe to reply. They are many updates earlier than that. Their Discord works so flawlessly it makes me jealous x.x especially since they rarely use it
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my mobile discord has literally never worked
I have to restart it frequently because sometimes it just slows down to 0 speed
my partner can't use discord....
cuz they're a toilet š

I just disable auto update and grab the api for the version i like
my partner can use discord, cause it's my hand
š«£
LMAO
The downside is i cant see my name i can only see the username i made up like 10 years ago
Yeah I could do that
If I wanna restart due to the app slowing down AND not have replies
Nah ever version after the one im using is ass
Huzzah! Got a multi shrimp pic
Discord was made for gamers, but now get treated like it twitter
Me?
nah, theres still moderation here
Can see replys remember
Yes, you Makoto
Ahhh well yes it work the same yes but how they treat it is not
Discord dont care about it users it only care about the money now, support are all AI now, basic features got move to needing to have nitro
"basic features" such as...?
"we are lowering the amount of space to send images for non nitro users"
25MB - 10MB for non nitro i think
It was 25
no, it was 8
Why lower it?
i mean granted they did change nitro pricing as well, along with adding a WHOLE ITEM SHOP š
But you don't get any Nitroglycerin, which I was pissed about
XD
thats like making a game paid, then free, then paid again
Yeah they sent me some but it was old because I'm on a "classic" plan and I can't even use it
It was 8, then it was 25, then itās 10
The item shop might be not mega stupid if the items in it weren't mega stupid
i mean some items are good, its just expensive for what it is
Nah why do i have to get nitro and pay for items?
that's what im saying bruh, compact mode in discord looks so... sterile
i dont think thats true...?
like WHY
I SCREAM INTO THE VOID AND NO ONE CAN HEAR, THE ONLY SOUND IS THE CRIES OF THE WICKED BURNING IN ETERNAL STARLIGHT
I cannot fathom why anyone would want any of the profile decorations except like
Chillet and one other
do people think im gonna spend 6USD on an avatar border?
If itās a Chillet then yes. 
Items shop are dog shit
I mean.... sure, but i'd rather get myself something else with 6 dollars
Thatās fine.
the only things in the shop that are cool are the profile effects. It's a shame that they are super laggy and beyond too flashy for my taste
I remember in halo 3 and reach you worked hard to earn cool shit, now it just pay $20 to get this
yeah that would be rediculous, who tf pays that much for dumbass discord profile decorations? stupid...
like at that point just buy nitro š
For $5.99 ea you too can own these adorable critters xD
(Yes, it is supposed to sound like an ad)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/927222714010324992/1286756457026555914/20240920_133024.jpg?ex=66ef10d6&is=66edbf56&hm=21f17dd83a3195e6e14b5b53d266f41d20dce932ee489ccae313ff83dcbef9a0&
I already have a dog that enough for me
Exploding totoco go boom and gone.
2 shrimp go on forever
whatās a totoco?
Birb
no thatās a tocotoco
A butchering of the name xD
No that a bird
Tocotoco*
Someone say chillet
Nope
A creeper
Awwww man
voxel creeper, not the other type of creeper
although similarities exist
My internet is wack
š
Chillet š£ļø
omg the ingame chillet looks a thousand times better they should have made it with ingame graphics smh head head

fucking wish my house had ac
point taken
Yknow I've always wondered how a shotgun works
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this one is even more in depth

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damn, i better try harder
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you have to play ffxvi and then you have to have nitro? double rip
its says any activity 
ffxvi is for a decoration, not nitro
you can play ffxvi demo or full version
yeah but id still have to play it
Imagine the wild concept, check this out, the wild concept of, opening and trusting subcontracted companies to manufacture your good, ISN'T EASY
And not something you can just rush and not make fuckups
This Quest is an experimental feature about nitro
true and real
#savethebelleisleboathouse
But that tweet is still messed up
Someone they contracted in Turkey of all places had shit conditions and ended up with Lead in there? Shit, that's what happens
if i had $40m i would DONATE IT ALL
#savepalworldsavetheindustry
Goodnight everyone
Fck Nintendo!
Lawyers need to eat too I argue
Don't hate the player, hate the game or something like that
uh yeah they can eat their pants when they LOSE
The end is near
Nintendo's time has come
Shelly after you no longer have a mod job here I can get you twitch mod role dw
I got you
They shall face a reckoning of historic, biblical proportions
the echoes of their defeat in court will rattle the very heavens
I suddenly want potato chips š¤
Each day your malmud is wearing more stuff
Add a car or a son malmud lol
I am Lawyer Mud
You need a watch, all lawyers wear one
It's behind the brief case
Ah my bad lol
made that up bc there is no place to draw it
I highly doubt it
The crypto bro doubts something that's delicious
if I was playing a videogame and I was pocketpair, I'd do my best to concede to agreeable terms
Nah, just hire Saul Goodman from breaking bad
Is my Soap about to play? If so I need to know so I can run and get the chips.
The Japanese equivalent of course
Why do people act like nintendo having infinite just makes them win
It's not about that
Just donāt drop the soap š§¼
Having infinite just
Nintendo has sued like 3 people ever and all of those people's entire life savings are less than Miyamoto makes in half a year
I would try to fight Nintendo. Beat them in court and then beat them in the street just outside that courthouse for putting me through legal Hell!
In Japan people don't go to court to play games, that's all I can say
Nintendo wins with money because their opponents literally could not possibly afford lawyers
Pocketpair can afford lawyers and court fees
There are headlines going around saying Pocketpair intends to fight, but then just link to the existing announcement. šæ
"However, we will do our utmost for our fans, and to ensure that indie game developers are not hindered or discouraged from pursuing their creative ideas." not the words of someone who plans to fold for a settlement
Hello Ronald.
Damn someone got called a clown, who tho hope not me
Hello again MalMud
No but it doesnāt really commit to anything.
I have no skeletons in my closet
Nintendo makes me so mad, Iād like to, rip out all of a stuffed Eeveeās fluff and mail it to Nintendo
Iām clean by government standards š
strategically speaking, pocketpair would be invading Russia in winter
Counterpoint, Nintendo is the one invading
yeah well they're going to war
anything but conceding implies pocketpair will try to invade back
With an infinite amount of well winter equipped soldiers
Never attack the enemy where they are strong.
ā¦but Pocketpair is defending.
They have a legal team that is used to winning without a fight
So they will lose some pieces of land, historically speaking
if the war is costly enough, it will destabilize the entire country
They may.
Or they will buy Pocketpair
Nintendo would not buy pocketpair
But itās too early to call it when we donāt even know what the allegations are. l
If someone else makes a mod for Pokemon in Palworld, Im finally gonna have a use for the meat cleaver
For all we know the publicly listed patents are a misdirection
Nintendo believes themselves superior to everyone else in this industry, they see studios like Pocketpair as inferior
If I was Nintendo and for gods knows what reason i lost my lawsuit I would for sure just buy them out lol
Fighting for indie developers would be not ruining themselves trying to fight Nintendo in Japanese courts, nuff said, change my mind, merry christmas, thank you for listening to my ted talk
an insult to their IP
What other court can a japanese company fight nintendo in
Theyād buy it to kill it.
We need a donated button for legal fees here in discord
Maybe it get them to make a good pokemon game
You act like Pocketpair has any real option here
Opens briefcase
Next motion I have is, what are your favorite flavors of potato chips?
I don't lmao
There is only one correct choice in this discussion and that is to break Nintendo's legal sword here and now
@night plume BBQ
Hot Cheetos the American ones , with extra red dye
Any particular BBQ flavor, or just overall?
you act like it's a Fort minor song
It should be!
They all the same what you on about
Sweet and tangy one
any concession just gives Nintendo more power and there is never going to be a high ground for PP to take
Thatās the best way you could have put that.
Also i can have red 40 so hot cheetos a no for met
They can't just run to the United States and sue Nintendo there
There's smokey bbq chips, hickory bbq, sweet and tangy, just bbq, spicy bbq, and some others
The patent laws are there, afaik US courts accept those patents too? I might be wrong
Not sure if I've ever had the sweet and tangy. I enjoy the sweet and the hickory.
They can't just wait for Nintendo lawyer's to die of old age
Not if Pocketpair doesn't have a US office
And even if they did, the lawsuit is in Japan right now
I got me a new PFP to show who I support
Not a fan of hot cheetos, don't care for hot o.o
I do enjoy regular cheetos
a concession now would weaken any case pocketpair makes later
there should be no case later
and it would bolster Nintendo's belief that they can weaponize these patents
Donāt think so.
and Nintendo cannot be allowed to weaponize these patents
we said they registered in like 2022 or 2023
If can why not have them
Theyāre filed separately.
yeah, that's sorta what I meant
I like pickle chips
The more red 40 it has the better it tastes
pickles are gross
They definitely fall under prior art here, I donāt think theyād hold up.
Mods ban him
Mostly not all the times
Ever had fried pickles?
I'll drink straight pickle juice >.>
Fried pickles are amazing.
Ever made pickle pops?
@olive seal i physically cant have red 40
Thatās pickle chips
Thing is, Nintendo is Baiting, don't be baited, don't have a case later, let it go
All except for that last one
Thereās no concrete evidence of its harm
Pickle chips are chips flavored to be pickle.
Fried pickles are pickles that are breaded and deep fried.
@olive seal i have an allergy to it
Get an ice tray.
Pour in pickle juice.
Put cling wrap over the top.
Put a toothpick in each cube.
Freeze.
Enjoy the picklepops.
Then wouldnāt it be chips flavored pickle????š¤
Thatās a war crime
Then wouldn't it be cheetos hot and spicy flavored?
No, Ill tell you an actual war crime⦠Casumarzu
Yes they spell it that way here in America
Theyāre are called exactly Cheetos hot and spicy
Or something along the lines
Ima buy a bag to check now
That Mountain Dew was mid kinda bad honestly
Also known as paint for Mals halloween dress
They are flamin hot cheetos
Cheese puffs made Mud pumpkin
Am I going to regret looking this up?
Mtn dew Cheeto flaming hot flavor is a flavor I donāt want to remember
You shouldnāt, no
Just something that's ilegal to eat in most places
cause it most likely will harm you
Is it that cheese...?
Yes
no, those are worms
It's the worm cheese!!!!!
I'm not looking that up again!
Told you itās a war crime
Sounds worth trying once
I mean we drink poop coffee
Whatās so different this time
Itās literally ROTTEN
You can drink that poop coffee, I will not drink that poop coffee.
I'd call it biodiversely active
Itās really expensive and good
Coming from the person who tried coffee for the first time 3 weeks ago?
no it's not
I just drink regular coffee that hasnāt been in a wild animalās butthole
This is what made me think it was that cheese btw
Why do it feel like everything that can be bad for you always go back to being with something of shit?
A region in a place in the world eats Eggs boiled in virgin kids piss
China
Wasnāt that china?
yeah, it's a food from a particular festivity afaik
All this bc I said I liked pickle chips....
And some people donāt clean Their butts well and prefer a dirty human butt
So letās be open and try new things š
There are lines humans arenāt meant to cross
Trust me, in this conversation, "I" am not the one crossing them.
Iād rather talk about eating bats
So we have Covid 24?
But Ozzie thought it was a toy
Those things infested with a ton of diseases and some arenāt even discovered yet
wen covid 69
By 2069 prob
Nothing proper cooking cant handle
Cookies with some sugar glass for wings would be some cool looking Halloween bat goodies
Yall giving candy for Halloween?
I dont celebrate Halloween
Probably
The idea of scaring kids sounds fun ngl
You give actual good candy? Or are you giving them like brócoli n stuff?
No way man I give out legit candy
I ain't no cheapskate
I'll buy candy to have it just in case, but most likely will eat it myself. Too dangerous for trick or treaters on my road but there is the rare occasion someone drives up
Kids dont trick or treat in my neighborhood
I need to make friends with someone with kids xD my cousin's kids are now too old to trick or treat so I have no excuse to trick or treat anymore xD
Brócoli can be expensive lol but glad yall donāt do that stuff
If I gave Broccoli out for Halloween my house would be egged to death
I've been given a candy apple before, that is the only "healthy" thing I've ever gotten on Halloween.
My late mother never liked Halloween
It would be funny to look at them in the faces while giving them brócoli š
If I was out trick or treating and someone put broccoli in the bags I'd call the police and report the house >.>
I know people do tricks for Halloween but I would be far too suspicious that they are trying to poison the kids in some way.
Halloween is just a day for kids to demand candy from strangers, fuck up their little teeth, and threaten strangers with vandalism
Halloween is amazing.
It is a day you dress up as anything you want, joke around, get free candy, and get to act like a kid.
Added bonus you get to decorate things in spooky ways
My mom also hated āmarketingā holidays
Unfortunately, every holiday is a "marketing" holiday
Troof
All of them are a way to make us spend more on unnecessary stuff
Yup
Christmas is the big one, but Halloween & Easter have people spending on candy/chocolate, and Thanksgiving got people buying expensive Turkeys
Easter - food, cards, candy
Birthdays - cake, cards, toys, party stuff.
Christmas - gifts, cards, trees, foods, decorations.
Halloween - candy, costumes, decorations, pranks, party stuff.
Turkey day - food
Valentines day - candy, card, food, jewelry, alcohol, censored, things to make people not feel alone.
St patricks day - alcohol, food, party stuff.
Mother's day/father's day - gifts, cards.
Okay, I think the gist is understood
Thereās gotta be a candy type that looks normal but is very acidic or spicy or something. Ima look them up
I've had spicy chocolate before haha
And the next day of thanksgiving you have Black Friday and the following Monday cyber Monday š
Most Mexican candy
I dont do St. Patrickās day very much, my birthday is on the same day
I wouldnāt call that spicy lol but ig itās bc Iām used to it
Was it good? Sounds awful
Even days of rememberence are marketed holidays
Happy early and belated birthday btw
Even birthdays are a a way for you to pretend to care and buy them a gift
Which is spending money
I bake cookies for people
Doesnt help that my birthday is on the same day as St.Patrickās day
Wanna come to my birthday party? š id love some homemade cookies š
Shelly do you have a backup job already?
I was gonna tell a joke but Iām too tired
If you revert conversation back I'll spam pickle chips
And pickle cupcakes.
And pickle cookies.
And pickle cake
And yes, they are all actual things
Ima just buy a bagel š„Æ and shut up uwu
i aint paying a dollar extra for my bagel
ig no bagel today
uwu i am a bagel
(ļ¼āµŠā²)ļ¼~ ā§ā§
Everytime I finish a document another pops up in its place!
Yes!
You cant buy people
I feel like Iām gonna regret going any further
But they a bagel
yeah š
Shell knight what are the odds of a mute if I continue this???
not if i can help it
uwu
broke my heart seeing that so
Iāve been sent so much unwanted furry adult content that idk if I should continue perusing any of this . Itās not you itās me š„ŗ
dw, this bagel here will take the mute for u QwQ
I would have banned someone immediately for any such filth in my server
The Spanish channel is full of openly furry people, at least here they hide it a bit
God forgive me for I have sinned again š
SAME š
It was just soo tempting to say it š should be a crime to bait people into it š
Didn't think about pickle ice cream
LMAOOO š
Yes please Iāll take it
Malmud shar pickle dishes I need to punish myself
This has become creepier than I thought.
dips
I will dip too
This was the first thing I saw upon clicking on the server. š
No one should send anyone unwanted NSFW content, that's really bad.
I personally want it, but only from people I'm already friends with
Good evening gamers
Yo.
Morning
How be you?
How are you doing MalMudder?
Pretty good. Working on fully Minecraft stuff, and gonna get Linux set up on my laptop tonight.
That's pretty coiniquikydink, I just finished setting up a plugin thing to force people to link their discord to MC.
Ay, nice.
Not bad. Watching thw time til I can go home. Yourself?
That way they can be tracked and punished if they act a fool.
I recently bought a uhhhh Optiplex7060 to host MC servers myself.
I'm alright, about to head out to go to Dorney Park.
I'm playing Minecraft Bedrock Android x86_64 on my Steam Deck through a custom launcher.
That is pretty bonkers.
That park looks fun o.o
The horror attractions have opened and I love me some good horror stuff.
It works well, too. Runs great and multiplayer works.
And now I'm more interested o.o
Unless it is a haunted house, after the last couple I've been to I have lost my interest in those.
I'd play on Java more, but controller support isn't that good and I'm having some issues getting mods to work on Prism.
I have banned people from my server within seconds of them posting NSFW
I guess it's one thing if they click the wrong file, but they should double check, and if they accidentally post NSFW, they should delete it immediately and apologize if anyone sees it.
I think I've accidentally done that maybe once ever, but I don't think anyone saw it before I removed it.
I see it in my server, I ban them and delete everything they posted in the last 7 hours
Oh sorry my pants have come down and I'm not wearing underwear today, whooops, I instantly pulled my pants up tho !
sorry !
I don't think it's entirely comparable. š
I think it's apt
I am frightened as to why this needs to be said here
Itās Discord
And????
69% of discord users have a mental illness
99% of statistics are made up on the spot
It's easy to forget that your interactions are real, but still.
Basic consideration and decency are always appreciated. Not everyone around you is a complete coomer.
Im actually autistic, and these other idiots dont know itās wrong to post porn?
I'm autistic as fuck too, and I still know that no one wants that. š
I have an RP chat that is supposed to be SFW and kid friendly and people will still send hentai and porn and pretend they didn't understand that wasn't allowed.
Heyyy just because I have a couple doesnāt mean Iām a degenerate
they probably do it to normalized and gaslight it.
Im known for a lot of shit, but posting porn isnt something I have ever done
Nor is tolerating it
I used to roleplay a lot. Don't really do it anymore.
I manage the channel and throw atmosphere posts in. I don't RP much anymore, don't have the time, nor want to put in the time when I have it.
It's not much of an interest for me anymore and I have pretty bad memories of being a weird lonely autistic teen. It's cool, but not really my thing anymore.
I latched really hard onto any friendships I made, to the point of making my friends uncomfortable.
I make people uncomfortable and Iām not autistic
I always make very bubbly and strange characters so I can easily interact. Liked the personality, and basically decided to just be that online :p
Then you decide to be dumud
I just donāt know to social cuz I have no one and am very lonely and depressed and suicidal and hear voices and donāt have many filters
The personality fits with any derpy character :p
used to roleplay
pokemon pfp
Yeah it checks out
Damn that was hot burn lol
you have a bagel
but nah srsly, you made my evening a bit better, thx
Last time I went there I scared malmud, never again š( anytime šš š)
We aren't going there
Now how can I exploit this weakness
More like me eating chocolate cake š
Explorers of Sky as favorite game
Wait
Never heard of it
Not a literal bagel
No wait, let it die there
Ohh
PokƩmon Mystery Dungeon is infamous for being a machine that turns normal people into furries.
I was just going to tie a bagel in a fishing pole and cast it in front of mal
Good game series, though.
Ahh you those kind of people
It sounds really generic, but the best thing you can do is at least try talking to people. It's a life long process and not everything can be learned over the internet. Despite apperances, people still have to learn context with age, time and social situations. The amount of them there are out there depending on who you are as a person at a given point in time may vary massively. So do try if you're able to, get out and do at least talk to some people even if it's depressingly lonely out there. Assuming you aren't stuck somehow. @olive seal
I'm not reading chat for context, all I saw was 'suicidal depressed' etc.
Since you wanted to know, be warned, you'll regret.
The other message I was going to send looks to have been removed
#off-topic message
I like plain onion bagels with the onion bits scraped off >.>
Oh i donāt want to know lmao i wasnāt involved into the conversation and came into the part where they said you was afraid of bagels
I was purely thinking food lol
If you're without someone to reliably talk to
Ask, Who
What
When
Where
Why
And How.
Iām in mandatory weekly therapy, receive psychological support, see a psychiatrist once a month, take a lot of medications, and even have someone paid to help me make friends.
I can go home!
Itās hard but at least I wonāt be ending it anytime soon š
Also I have really good internet yet this doesnāt load
Mi...Caaaasaaa...
Iām restart discord, this is annoying
Ahh there lol
i'm honestly glad to hear that, im just some bagel on the internet but i believe in you
A little heavy for palworld chat but glad that's the case.
yes?
linking this img worked to post it here š wasn't sure if possible
tis a pretty picture
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F**K
Some other time.
PocketPair is being backed by Sony in some way, right?
The only announced partnership with Sony is SME who would have no vested interest in game patents.
Itās all but a given that the Playstation version will be announced at TGS and SIE definitely wants in on this cash cow.
i still cant motivate myself enough to learn japanese .-.
like i had a good start, got the basics, but then just hit a wall and never got past it
having palworld on sony could hopefully boost its performance in japan, too. the fact its only on xbox/pc which are both not too popular in jp is probably hurting it
my friends and I all bought a normal bass pro shop hat and got my mother to cover over the B in a matching paint. It is my favourite hat lmao
It is popular in Japan though.
But yeah being on Playstation would be huge.
where does this come from btw? all i can find are the stats that claim only 2.5% of steam users are from japan (US is 21%, china 36%)
Japanās population is a lot lower than those other two markets.
1/3 for us so its technically underperforming
but tbh i think thats because of the available platforms
Divorce/breakup any%
That wouldnt work with me because i have DOR
Lawsuit rawr
Spooky
You know what would be disturbing?
PocketPair will never sue this game.
But Nintendo will.
Screw Nintendo.
The feelings of this server summarized in 2 words
SUE
https://patents.google.com/patent/JP7482585B2/en I found one of the patents they are likely gonna use against Palworld. 
it's a patent for letting summoned characters fight enemies on the field without direct commands from the player
which is basically the only method of fighting with Pals outside of riding a mountable one
it also includes their reactions based on the proximity of enemies
it's cute that people go out and do their research and post their findings as if no one has ever brought up the idea before
watch it turn out to be something stupidly mundane like "using a pc to look at a character's stats"
@teal iron at least they doing there own research
I also heard there's about 28 of them.
so we all signing up for miraibo go, right?
But rn, need to prove that the mechanics development is before the patent is approved.
At least to some extent Nintendo can't sue for something that's not patented yet at that time. Or they have not made public of this patent for people to know.
Unless you don't mind Nintendo coming after their ass next. 
the main thing I am looking at on google patents is just the sheer amount of patents they actually own in Japan. They own a lot of really mundane ones that apply to a lot of games, so they could throw a veritable wall of shit and gridlock them with a lot of stuff.
Which again timing and public knowledge also mattered.
You can't sue someone for patenting something already used by someone else.
they have a patent for freaking fast traveling and having the map appear on the screen in japan
At least from a common sense perspective.
so i was randomly looking it up, and earlier everyone was joking about katress being a bunny and miraibo literally has not katress bunny mage =p
In my face
Then Nintendo can kinda sue games like Assassin's Creed or Baldur's Gate 3 for fast travel technically on such patents. 
Or even most open world games in general. Like bruh...
how do you patent something so many other games use
That's basically patent trolling.
Exactly. Unless it's very specific like the Nemesis system.
and will they have any weight
technically yeah... the amount of patents I am seeing make it even more clear that they are mostly going after pocketpair with the intent of patent trolling. Because if this was about protecting patents then they would have gone after so many games by now
A lot of the Nintendo patent used here is vague. Like throwing a ball at a monster to catch it.
You know what else it's identical? Throwing a net at a fish to catch it.
how is this supposed to hold up in a court? its kind of obvious whats being done here
feels like they arent going for a win though, just money drainery
Right now, imo if the timing of the patent is off or it's too vague I would question the validity even if it's patented.
But then again, it's Japanese law and lawyers involved. So I don't know how they interpret it. 
Yeah as mentioned. It's up to the Japanese court to decide. If Nintendo is so confident suing on this basis they may be up to something.
It's now more to how smart PocketPair lawyers will argue back and how "smart" the court system is.
Assuming the judges aren't corporate hacks.
it doesn't even specify ball it just says item, which applies to a lot of stuff
i dont know much about legal stuff, but i think the worst that happens to pocketpair is they lose a good few dollar and have to change palworld a bit
Depends what patent in play. I only fear if it's extensive that it's impossible to keep the current aesthetic of the game.
but if nintendont happens, it would be quite fun
Another patent I heard could be used is riding mounts.
yeah i kind of forgot nintendo patented the concept of video games
given the amount of patents for basic things Nintendo even has in japan. The judges for ruling on this kind of stuff seem very bleh
Yes, which is why a lot of people who despise the lawsuit not because they support Palworld but because it's going to be catastrophic to the genre.
It means Nintendo is going to have monopoly over the genre.
fast travel
I mean this is a company that owns the patent for rubberbanding in racing games
if they went after people for that
really how the hell do you patent these things
racing games would be dead
especially with this timing
I would be raising my eyebrows at how general so many of these patents were in place. Even wondering how it can be approved so frequently.
It seems to me that Nintendo is taking away popular game mechanics and leaving them as exclusive. It's like Playstation Network access
They even have patent of character shadows behind objects. 
the fuck
its funny you mention PSN because reading through the patents again it occured to me how, taken literally, this patent would block helldivers stratagems
they don't neccessarily take them away, they just hang them over everyone's head like a guillotine and if anyone they don't like shows up they go after them. It's why they let so many games slide on using the things they patent.


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people don't do the nemesis system not because the patent exists. They don't do it in the case that if their thing does get successful they can't tell how WB games will react
the title isnt even correct...
Their lawsuit against White Cat Project is even more idiotic.
Nintendo CEO is sucks
:^) well the current CEO is from the pokemon company
i didnt know just how many patents they made to fight pocketpair
im fairly concerned about this now
but Nintendo also sent a lawsuit btw
it doesn't seem like they made any specifically to fight pocketpair given the dates on these things in japan. Nintendo seems to just file a patent for any and everything they do in their games that they haven't already done before or feel is novel to them
from what i remember quite a few were made after palworld went into EA
though i dont know about some of these, only just heard of them from here
given how secular they are this applies to literally every mechanic. This is the same company that didn't know what Portal was. They don't even think about what other companies are doing they just think they are being super unique. When they do know they are ripping off ideas they don't tend to make patents, unless they think they can get away with it.
Now due to this lawsuit, new content updates are delayed.
hoping this wont affect tgs too much, the people must witness chillet
nah all the ones people have been posting online in regards to Palworld were all apparently filed in Japan back in like 2021 and 2022
The ones we have been seeing online are ones they recently are trying to patent in the US since they passed in japan. but the timing is really scummy
thank you for the information
i think this is what i spoke of, thought they were recently passed in japan
its funnier than i thought
yeah even though palworld has been in development since before the patents were approved, and other games like Ark have already done a bunch of the stuff Nintendo is likely gotten hit them with. Nintendo is still going to try and fight this one because of course they are.
palworld was too grand
if this goes well for pocketpair then its great advertising
spooky nintendo lawyers do cause a good bit of unease however
if you go on google patents, look up nintendo, and set it to all the ones granted within the 20 year time frame or just of recent you can actually find most of the patents they are likely gonna hit Pocketpair with.
More than 1 for sure.
This is my biggest gripe ever from this shenanigans. 
I hope it stays on track. But for me the mood certainly got sucked out. 
I hope if a PS5 release is confirmed, Sony can step in to help PP.
Like, bro can potentially file a counter suit for potential damages Nintendo could do against Palworld. 
That would be funny. 
I thought they would be basing on patents made before the game was released.
i pray that nintendo loses.
Because if based on ones approved after the game released, no way in hell the Japanese court is that idiotic to give Nintendo the win.
a lot of them in japan were before release but not long before
If it's during the development cycle of the game, PP may have a chance if they got the evidence that they're working with it before the mechanic was patented.
That, and they can even argue the patent was not publicly known during the development cycle.
the biggest thing they have than can defend that is craftopia
and yeah some of them were only published after palworld
Morning all
Omfg i went to the palworld reddit and I found a drawing regarding the lawsuit controversy
Can't link it here but those who go there and see it will know what i am talking about
I think I saw it if it's the ref image of the Pokeball throwing thing.
In the old days used to use your website with forum instead of reddit
Still idiotic to patent an action instead of the item itself.
No, it's the one with Mario violently chewing Relaxaurus, Grizzbolt and Chikipi
I honestly hate it when games require different mechanics
Before I learn it, I'll make a mistake when I play with 4 games with different monster catching mechanics
Err not that. The black and white concept image.
No, search "Made this real quick in support of the devs" in the Palworld subreddit
creepy
Also...this isn't a bad idea since it matches the aesthetic of Palworld.
Use a special gun with Pallets.
As in Pal bullets to catch them.
But what happen to the buttom map used to aim and toss the Pal Sphere? It shall remain useless or it would be used for the new item that would replace it
I see the Lawsuit Chat got closed because someone started something up they felt they could spin in their narrative. Shame, I was starting to enjoy that chat.
It was some asshole that kept annoying everyone, despite the multiple warnings giving to them.
If PocketPair properly makes a good case for Palworld I think they can be in the right against Nintendo quite easily actually. Always look to the past with Patents.
What I mainly worried about is Japanās government. They are the main reason these things happen. Remember itās not entirely Nintendo thats doing this. Itās also part the Japanese government.
The Pokemon company is not only a borderline religion in Japan at this point, & that and Dragon Quest. Also they make Japan a truckload of Money. There could be a Bias
For me it would be completely pointless if they changed the mechanics of the rider? How?
Riding a monster - lawsuit
Monster control - lawsuit
All that needs to be said is Nintendo
Technically hasnt invented Anything even tho it seems like it. If you logically think about it they are just taking many ideas pre established and changing them, slapping the Nintendo Logo on it. Sound familiar?
It would be best if publishers left Japan and came to the US
Pocketpair has already set up Deals with Microsoft. They could do better under US laws probably and worry less about Japans Anti-Competitive Nature.
People like to Joke about Merica and their guns, Welp Guess American Pokemon Has guns in it š¤Ŗš¤Ŗš¤Ŗ
While PocketPair is at it they should add Cowboy outfits and The ability to cook Burgers if they wanna go the extra Mile lol
Imagine Xbox crossover for Palworld where you can craft Masterchief armor in the game


Funnily that's what Asmongold also pointed out.
You know what other game have this mechanic? Monster Hunter Stories.
At this rate Sony might as well just counter sue Nintendo for potential financial loss.
That's literally one of the inspiration of the gun use in Palworld.
If the game is coming to PS5, they got Sony to get aid from.
If Nintendo wins, I bet the community will pay for everything that Palworld will still be available. Like NFS World, because EA closed the game but the community was revived
Just like in Minecraft in the distant future
Nintendo coming for all our money we spent on Palworld and not the next EA release of pokemon
Never saw it, guess I missed that
It depends on the court's decision
no worries, its pretty easy to miss.
you need an Electric Kitchen to unlock it, which is at level 41.
It is even more unclear what Steam will do
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I think Bucky or someone from PocketPair should report them for slandering as he was pretending to be part of the staff and slandering them.
just screenshot
What he said?
called it
In short " I understand the price of what I did (lying) but I don't care because it felt rewarding to do"
Someone pretend to be the pals designer of palworld, and say something the CEO tell him to design from the inspiration of the popular pokemon?
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read that and died.
i just remembered about azur promilia, will nintendo go after them also ? they have pokemon / palworld mechanics.
Just saying, that rumor is already spreading in china
It already spread everywhere it can be read
I think the only reason it isn't all over the EN community is because the hatred of Nintendo was so strong the allegaions just melted like plastic in a steel mill
What is this all about in general?
"this"?
tbh the more i look into it possibly the strongest case Palworld will have against anything Nintendo does with patents will be all the early stuff that they did with craftopia which not only launched before legends arceus was even revealed. It also has a bunch of the things Nintendo patented that will be likely ammo for Nintendo in the game before Legends Arceus was revealed/came out, and before the patents. Ark as well being a really strong thing to bring up.
Ark will probably be the next target for Nintendo
I think there's no one piece of evidence for palworld but a lot of little pieces that when taken as a whole paint nintendo's arguement as patently absurd
ark is not a threat to the pokemon IP
like they can't really hit them on the whole third person aiming and catching mechanic because Craftopia had that before Legends was even revealed
Apparently in Japan you can sue people for using technology you patented even if their use was before your patent was filed?
Nintendo likes to win with the help of lawyers spending money
that sounds insane
I think their best defense is simply to go after nintendo's motive
if they can retroactively sue with patents like that, then genuinely there is no legal defense
that dozens upon dozens of other games are infringing every patent nintendo claims to own, and Nintendo is singling pocketpair out, which I don't know is even technically legal
I feel like it isn't that by allowing these other medias to exist in violation of the patent you are weakening your ownership of the patent
Nintendo Makes Money on Games and Spends Money on a Lawsuit
like sure if there were a bunch of puny mobile shovelware games those wouldn't much count because those games don't obey the law but I'm pretty sure there are multiple serious big-time violations out there
You could also argue that, try to design a creature collector game that doesn't violate Nintendo's patents
They're too broad and abstract
It's just wild that Japan's most famous legal firm also makes video games on the side
Nintendo has connections, even former employees who wanted to file a patent lawsuit
seriously, this is garbarge
PokƩmon doesn't even do that??
I won't be surprised why Nintendo has the least players than PS or Xbox
i don't recall a PokƩmon game doing so at least so ironically this sounds more like PokƩmon copying palworld
i think legends arceus has a thing where it will say like back bonus and stuff
which is technically "capture probability"
that and the level of the pokemon being higher and in red to signify that it's gonna be a harder catch
I don't think i will ever get over people calling Never Grave a hollow knight rip off and saying it like it's a massive negative. When the entire Metroidvania genre has become polluted with so many Hollow Knight games that it's starting to become a genre of itself. All of this on top of the fact that Never Grave has some unique ideas in it that every other Hollow Knight-like game hasn't even tried. A lot of them are verbatim just hollow knight with a different but close enough character.
Speaking of China, I remembered Tencent working on 2 Palworld clones.
This is going to get very ugly.
Bro trying to patent RNG. 
if anything comes out of this Pocketpair is for sure going to get more protective of the IP
The reply section is cancer
Nintendo fans can be as toxic as PS or Xbox.
Heck I can say they're even more toxic than them.
Considering how much more scummy things Nintendo did to their own base.
The fact the amount of mental gymnastics going on in this thread trying to ādisproveā his point are absolutely asinine.
Laying off staff to keep profits up and CEO staying rich is bad. Suing your own base for hosting fan tournaments on their game or making fan games is worse.
I think pocketpair needs some sort of support to help go against nintendo
Like kickstarter or like kofi or something
TBF that's the same hot mess Helldiver 2 PC players complained too because why need a PSN login for something not on PS?
Special people buy even when it says PSN
Right now they sort of have the profits they got from the sales of the game. It's the long run they need help.
to make review and money back
I think all of those sites have strict rules against building funds for legal cases
If anything PocketPair should already have IP Protection.
they want pirate instead or what?
I remembered they put a fine print in the disclaimer but it wasn't implemented on launch.
they do, but you can always get insanely draconian about it
Pocketpair can also get some help from MS if need be
Nintendo's recent patents already did this.
Maybe redemption from microsoft
Nvm, best is Sony.
For as awful as Nintendo is being there are some really massively valid reasons they protect their IPs so heavily
how many thing did nintendo patent
Considering microsoft ruins every game it comes across rareware
If pocketpair was added to Microsoft they might have somehow defended it but the quality of the game would have been destroyed in the future
If Palworld is officially announced for PS5, Sony could potentially be roped in to defend Palworld. Assuming they don't pull the plug after this lawsuit was announced.
problem is PlayStation Network
A lot of key mechanics in monster hunting, I heard. Not sure how many in total but I heard about 28 involved in the lawsuit (unconfirmed).
Yeah, thats bad
Thats why you just buy more copies of the game š¤Ŗ
Nintendo is the only video game company that has like... no back up. SEGA has a lot of shady things going on beyond games. Sony and Microsoft were huge even before games. Nintendo is one of the few really big players that all they have is their IPs and brand. They don't really make money through any other means. So if they don't protect them then the company is effectively cooked beyond words.
it's not a playstation IP, so that shouldn't be a problem
You can't ask PlayStation for help as it lost 400m
they've been around since 1889. even if they drop out of gaming they'll be fine
Protecting their IP is one thing. Doing so at such a timing after the game was released and growing gives impression they're doing this for profits.
That being said Nintendo is still going way too far here
Yea rn Playstation is hurting so bad, weāre prob gonna see them cut quality for alittle while lol
the fact it can afford to lose 400m means they've got plenty
That's probably about to change, cause according to the one link involving TGS and the PS5 it looks like PS5 Palworld was removed.
with what? they literally don't make anything else lol.
investments alone would keep them afloat
Nah, they are just greedy assholes that always hunt to everyone that somehow uses them, regardless if they don't make money.
I'm not surprised if they're spooked by the lawsuit.
Plus a lot of fan games fall under fair use anyways so...
so essentially becoming a stock investment company like blackrock
technically they don't
Can't us players make some sort of 300k signature thing to leave palworld alone?
IP protection law is such an unbridled mess that if Nintendo wasn't draconian in their protections they could legally lose the rights to something like Mario or Zelda
i mean you can, but it'll get ignored
SEGA almost lost the rights to sonic because they weren't being serious enough
I lowkey forgot about the lawsuit
Edit:
Sal Romano from Gematsu:
https://x.com/gematsu/status/1833751520828961126
Checking on Wayback Machine - it was indeed not there on Sep 11, 1PM UTC, while it was there on Sep 11, 7AM UTC. Though Gematsu never made an update on the tweet or the site that it was removed until right now...
Nintendo is basicly Mr Krabs foaming when it comes to both competition and fan games.
I looked it up and bucky is right these suits typically takes 3-5 years to resolve though I didn't look too deep into that number
I hate to make" A bad comment" But they kinda did that to themselves when it was greenlit, No?
I wonder what Nintendo would do about games in a Final Fantasy-like world, where players go around fighting monsters and unlocking party members.
if they get popular, they are infringing patents!
Higher ups wern't like " uhh this is too close to pokemon? "
Yes, and for 3-5 years I haven't been able to sleep peacefully 
They consulted legal experts who said it was fine
will you please stop bringing this irrelevant topic up
Dude, you are starting again? You are literally the reason of why #1286421220593766502 is closed forever.
look up "joust" arcade game, then balloon fight NES.
Nintendo is actually surprisingly super lenient with fan games, they have a bad rep in that field but it's always been about time and place, what the person is doing with the fan game, and basically if kotaku or IGN wanna ruin everything for everyone
Okay, block me if you can't handle a conversation
the Mario Fan Game Galaxy site has been up for like 20+ years and nintendo hasn't nuked it
anyone wanna play palworld together?? im looking for a group to play with
Why are you getting so heated .-.
@modest moss i've spoken to someone who is actually a copyright lawyer and they told me that palworld's designs are all 100% permissible
nintendo has not brought a copyright claim which, by their silence, have admitted the same
Don't know what you think that's gonna achieve that but one of the mods literally told you to stop.
Really depends if your worth having one with.
your point is irrelevant and incorrect and you've been told this several times and you insist on being hyper inflammatory on the issue
Mods told chat to stop. Not specifically me.
you're driving a stick into the mud and demanding a fight to die on a hill that has no bearing on the current discussion
They did not tag me and say stop
i mean Microsoft and pocket pair have some sorta partnership, if finances are an issue then i think they ahve that covered
And guess who caused the entire chat at the moment to go against you?
Pocket pair ain't the smallest company, ya know
You are discussing the topic, so it does apply to you, no?
What am I saying thats wrong here?
they are a small independent studio, just like gamefreak
:^)
read my messages back, I'm not repeating myself
Japanese dont think so
I'm sorry that everything needs to be Toxic Positivity.

Japanese indie game studios are mad that pocket pair claims that
Can you atleast make the bait believable?
I feel really bad saying this but...L on their part?
Let's just move on before this channel get closed forever.. The devs already had enough with Nintendo and we don't want them to make things worse for them.
Unless I go there and see what's there lmao
I still can't get over Gamefreak wanting to do bi yearly releases of pokemon games while still only having like 200 employees. They are trying to do Activision blizzard level release schedule on CoD with 200 people... the burn out must be insane
I'm not baiting anyone here. If y'all don't think that devs on palworld could of studdered away from pokemon, Thats not my fault.
Even worse than Ubisoft's Assassins Creed annual release.
If your here with an Agenda attacking Palworld, while saying āyour only helpingā and cause several arguments. Your likely just a Wolf in Sheep Wool.
Ubisoft, the kings of releasing the same games like... 20 times.
It's so funny how all their games just turned into Far Cry 3
Welp, it was a pleasure to talk in this channel while it lasted
Yep
And Nintendo want to patent every game mechanic related to monster taming while churning meh games? That's worse than anything an individual billionaire ever came up with.
Theres a process to how a Game is built and Green lit.
Forgive me, But It goes through numberous people to be approved.
it was real, guys
Mainline PokƩmon games have never changed anything innovative since the 90s.
the joke that skull and bones took forever because ubisoft couldn't find out how to put towers in the ocean will always be priceless
So what is yall's favorite eeveelution
Heck, I'd dare them to make a PokƩmon game that's diverse like Baldur's Gate 3. Oh what's that? It could destroy the Switch's performance? 
The one in your pfp (would)
guess
espeon
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De-evolution. 
I've very much sided with palworld here.
Lawsuitveon
no espeon was my favorite
Ah glaceon. I like them alot. I just got glaceon pjs too. Wanna see? Id have to dm

Yeah, that was the wrong answer
Flareon, the ultimate hugging pokemon
pick a new favorite, sorry
Hell yes
ā
No, that's Foxsparks. 
Nintendo and their Products are just bad now and relatively the same as theyāve always been with different gimmicks to fool the consumer into thinking their getting something new.
Theyāve survived off Fan nostalgia and continue to provide pointless services that offer nothing of value, while taking away fan run events.
Even I would rather see Palworld exist alongside Pokemon.
is it vespeon because of their anatomy?
Sent
:^)
I mean the way I see it is, if nintendo really wants there to only be one, then dang I guess pokemon's gotta go
Fortunately some PokƩmon fans also want this too. Not all obviously but some.
I'm allowed to say that palworld should of went more in it's own direction. Thats not really "A Hot Take" enough to close off-topic discussion
Rip in pepperoni see you in 40 years when you become public domain
i have thankfully still not had this issue
Those are normally the more honest fans who sees the flaws in the later PokƩmon games and won't deny the dip in quality.
Yup, cause that has been around for way longer than anything else.
palworld is an amazing game. Why wouldn't they want to do that?
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Palworld...did go in its own direction
SMT predates pokemon
Its called Toxic Positivity, and the Nintendo Fanbase is full of it
Ditto Dragon Quest.
I don't think best i try to have conversation with this chat at this point.
Now your learning
Oh for sure. But people think otherwise. Which is pretty weird considering we would never EVER see half the stuff in pal world in PokƩmon
-this is going to be my last reply to you on this matter
-ultimately, you are arguing that Nintendo is the only company that should be allowed to have a "PokƩmon like".
-this is very anti consumer as it leads to monopolies meaning one company can become complicit or exploitative.
-allowing a company to compete with them forces them to actually become pro consumer or lose the market. palworld is actually extremely brave in this manner as if they pull it off, it can force Nintendo to get off their ass
-and yet no matter how many times this is explained to you, in many ways, you still insist palworld was wrong to compete.
-you've mentioned before you're an artist; imagine being told you aren't allowed to use paint because someone else is a painter. you can't draw animals because someone else draws animals
-at this point it's clear that you're not going to shift, so further discussion on the matter is pointless.
sorry for the wall.
Be a good Wolf in sheep clothing and go back to the mountains.
Maybe is about $400m?
"sorry for the wall" -person who used blank lines instead of indentation to segment paragraphs
wait what, is that what they're saying? to me they seem to wanna support palworld
I agree with you, but I'm not arguing for nintendo Here.
I think the patent is wrong,
But at the same time, I think Palworld could of went alot in it's own direction.
I think it's okay to criticize both companies
I am genuinely curious
Palworld as a game does more than enough of it's own original stuff, but also takes from other games just as much as everyone else does. Pokemon itself at the time of release wasn't even wholly unique, the main thing that pushed it was the console it was on being so readily available and the fact that it had the coolest new thing with link cables making it a community driven game which was not common at the time.
Everything else pokemon does is taken from other games so to claim that pocket pair isn't being unique enough is really beyond silly
I'm on mobile lol; yeah that looked ugly. i tried using the marks instead now
Have you lived through the Nes/Snes Era By chance? If you did you might Understand Genre trends and just how close they can be to each other and still be fair game.
Well why is the patent thing happening if Palworld didn't do anything?
it comes across as "palworld shouldn't have tried to be PokƩmon" which i don't agree with.
May be, not sure when or why they decide to cancel
Ok auroriia is ignoring me...but they don't have me blocked...
Nintendo has lost Lawsuits Theyāve started before just FYI
hate the game , but not the skins.