off-topic

[safe tendon]

But there's nothing to apologize for

[light timber]

plenty to apologize for, copyright models and mechanic.

[safe tendon]

Similarities? Ok fine Pokemon stole from Dragon Quest

[light timber]

theres no evolutions but sitll.

[humble parrot]

Models are not the point of the patent lawsuit

[tranquil obsidian]

if the suit succeeds, it will essentially create a monopoly. you can have your pokemon clone but if it comes close to competing, theyll get rid of it

[light timber]

that is what we dont know 100% of the lawsuit filed.

[tranquil obsidian]

and thats no good for consumers

[humble parrot]

We do, if it was the models, it would a copyright lawsuit

[safe tendon]

That's why I believe it has to be mechanics

[finite hull]

I am quite curious as to what this "patent" is really

[humble parrot]

Nintendo kept it vague

If it turns out to be something stupid, that would be hilarious too

It would show just how petty they are for the L Palworld gave them.

[marsh maple]

Same. The only game you make pokeballs in with stuff found in the wild is legends arceus but I'm unsure if that can be patented though? Idk

[safe tendon]

It shouldn't

[finite hull]

Like, what patent? If it's just the monster catching then why do they just strike at Palworld now, why wouldn't they attack something like TemTem as well

[safe tendon]

Or any monster taming genre

[humble parrot]

Because none of those made them look incompetent

[safe tendon]

Good point

25million copies sold

[light timber]

Sadly, 75% Nintendo will win this fight. knowing them

[finite hull]

Just gotta hope the game doesn't end up coming under fire due to this suit. It'd be abhorrent if the game gets forced down.

[light timber]

if anything, it might and they be forced to redesign everything

[limber quail]

Just joined to show my support for Palworld. Bless yall

[light timber]

how did u get that Logo Guild Icon Badge thing?

[limber quail]

[finite hull]

I don't even remember at this point

[light timber]

I ask because im working on a gaming clan community discord atm, crafting it up and I noticed your name and that would be a cool way to show off ur clan etc

[safe tendon]

It honestly shouldn't. It feels like Pokemon is just being shitty. Remember they already came out before and admitted they're not filling out a lawsuit before but now they suddenly are?

[light timber]

they were busy with all the Rom sites and fake pokemon games thats why

all lawsuits take tiime, not over night

[limber quail]

lol hows that goin for em?

[light timber]

they win them all, they just won the recent $15 mill one just recently

[safe tendon]

The roms are LITERALLY just Pokemon tho

[limber quail]

talkin bout the roms and sht

[finite hull]

I don't believe they ever said they weren't, Pocketpair just said they hadn't been threatened with any legal actions

[light timber]

no like its all Roms, literally every single nintendo game, I cant even find Nintendo switch roms anymore.

[limber quail]

yea but ppl arent buying em, which nintendo wants

[light timber]

Hence why i own a hacked day 1 Switch.

[safe tendon]

Fuck Nintendo and Pokemon

[light timber]

literally just updated my hacked switch to play new games that I missed out on.

[safe tendon]

Are they REALLY that salty about Palworld?

[finite hull]

Okay well if it's literally a current gen console then yeah, makes sense why that's not available.
But retro stuff getting taken down is entirely shitty. Rip Vimms lair.

[light timber]

just built a 4tb NVME Gen 4 Retro Drive.

[finite hull]

I'll pretend I know what that means

[light timber]

lmfao fair enough

[safe tendon]

I'm really hoping nothing happens

Palworld is what Pokemon should be

[finite hull]

Best case scenario Pocketpair loses money, worst case scenario the game gets forced off sale.

[light timber]

and thats why nintendo are suing palworld

[peak folio]

In other news
https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1836475829523825074

DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) on X

BREAKING: Brazilians are now able to access 𝕏 without a VPN.

Reports suggest this is due to 𝕏 adopting Cloudflare's services to protect its servers. This protection dynamically changes 𝕏's IP address.

In Brazil, Cloudflare runs major institutions, including banks and

Twitter · Sep 18, 2024, 6:42 PM

[light timber]

why?

[finite hull]

No, don't come crawling back Brazil. Stay away from the hells of Twitter

[peak folio]

[tough comet]

[light timber]

alrighty, off to play Once human, later all, or prob just Youtube for now.

[safe tendon]

Pokemon ironically just refuses to evolve OF COURSE people start getting bored

[finite hull]

I love Pokemon, I have since I was a kid and still love it to this day, same with Nintendo as a whole really, but man I have little desire to support them with the shitty actions they do.

[quartz magnet]

[finite hull]

Sucks as well because I don't want to just, boycott Nintendo or something because the developers who actually spend time and effort making the games have jack to do with their legal decisions. They just want to make games for beloved franchises, and the higher ups damage their reputation.

[safe tendon]

Maybe Pokemon should, I don't know try growing up?

[finite hull]

The developers don't deserve that shit any more than the fans do.

[light timber]

In other news, Switch 2 leaks looking juicy

[safe tendon]

Wait a minute what does Pokemon even gain from this?

[finite hull]

Money

[light timber]

thats Nintendo sadly, not pokemon/gamefreak

[safe tendon]

My biggest question...Why. Now? 😒

[light timber]

answered already above like 3 times

[safe tendon]

8 months tho?

[light timber]

again answered above

[finite hull]

Legal shit can take time but you'd think if it was really that much of a concern they'd start this much sooner.

[safe tendon]

Exactly

I feel like it's just a potshot

I forgot how many people wanted to see Palworld fall 😢

Reading these comments are sad

[finite hull]

People want to see everything fall

[safe tendon]

So many "It's about time" and "They deserve it"

[finite hull]

You could cure cancer and there would still be someone who spits on you for "disrupting nature" or something

[safe tendon]

It's not like the billion dollar company cares about them

[finite hull]

That being said, the hatred some people have for Palworld really is something, like why do you really care that much.

[wind radish]

MrBeast flashback

[safe tendon]

Digimon had it's far share of hate as well remember?

[rose topaz]

I was thinking about why Nintendo fanboys are still meat riding when Nintendo clearly hates them.

[finite hull]

As a kid I did used to be one of those people, kinda bullied another kid just cause he liked Digimon. I Feel bad about that.

[safe tendon]

But then they also complain about how shitty or "stale" Pokemon has gotten

[finite hull]

A lot of the hate this game gets is undoubtedly from kids acting like that, but there's still a lot of grown fanboys just, being negative because they just can't accept being neutral.

I wish the sentiment of "It's not bad it's just not for me" was more accepted rather than people mass shitting on something they don't like.

[safe tendon]

It's not like Palworld was ever going to be a competitor to Pokemon

[finite hull]

Oh well, C'est La Vie, Oy Vey. I just hope the game itself doesn't get affected too much by this suit and will be over with before long.

[rose topaz]

I really hope that Digimon game dev moves to another company because Bandai Namco has gone woke.

[finite hull]

Oh dear lord

[rose topaz]

They filed a lawsuit for patent infringement.

I was wondering what patent means in games?

[teal iron]

That's what I keep saying

[safe tendon]

Think game mechanics

Or mechanics in general

All I can think of is Pal Sphere and Pokeballs

[rose topaz]

Oh ok.

[sage cypress]

Yeah it just looks like Nintendo being salty

[tranquil obsidian]

"IT'S SPHERICAL"

[safe tendon]

That's the argument I've seen

[sage cypress]

Nintendo copyrighted balls cause they don’t have any

[safe tendon]

I'm doing a little more research and apparently "A spherical object" is a cause

[sage cypress]

Lololol

[obtuse surge]

i dont think nitenmdo will win even tho i am a fan of nitendo

[safe tendon]

Nintendo is investigating other things definitely.

But...I just don't see it

[rose topaz]

The lawsuit is gonna be bloody mess

No matter who wins or who loses, there's no winning.

[sharp yarrow]

Copyright I get with some designs but other than catching things in balls the games are not theat similar, Other copycats did same thing tho they switched devices so the just need to change em to pal cubes if thats the case lol

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/vats-fallout-target-vault-108-gif-12021170

[tranquil obsidian]

just say pal spheres are feberge eggs, easy

[sage cypress]

Or say their pointy dodgeballs 👀

[safe tendon]

The copyright designs were already a dud. Nintendo said themselves that there was no violations of copyright designs

Everything I'm researching right now seems to point to "Game mechanics"

[sharp yarrow]

Just seem weird to goafter them now

[safe tendon]

They were apparently handling ROM hacks

[lapis swallow]

I'm guessing it took time to build a case / find evidence.

[safe tendon]

I hope Nintendo doesn't win

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/knockout-city-dodgeball-gif-26070508

[rapid marsh]

Because they want a slice of the pie

[safe tendon]

But let's say Nintendo lose. What will Poketpair do?

[sharp yarrow]

Even if they dont it takes their recources! So everyone by plushies so they dont go bankrupt lol

[tranquil obsidian]

adds pokeballs

[sharp yarrow]

I'd buy some skins to help layer fees lol

[lapis swallow]

I think it matters what they actually present though too. Like if the mesh lifting allegations turn out to be provably true then that's a valid reason to sue, but pocketpair didn't do that as far as I'm aware.

[sharp yarrow]

Court case penking

[humble parrot]

Laugh

[tranquil obsidian]

that would be copyright, not patent?

[tough comet]

they will send the wumpo with a hammer.

[tranquil obsidian]

patent is essentially ideas

[rapid marsh]

Remember the case of niantic being sued for AR gaming

[sharp yarrow]

So maybe pokemon was planning on surivor game and palworld beat em to it? IDk not a lawyer

[lapis swallow]

Depends. Just armchairing, but if they were using like a hacked switch to dump models or something it could go into that territory. Also if there's some sort of proprietary modeling technology that left it's mark somewhere.

[safe tendon]

Yeah that's why I think this whole thing is just a potshot.

[lapis swallow]

The only reason I think they are bringing a lawsuit now is if they've built a sufficient case or found something that they precieve to be evidence.

[rapid marsh]

Nantworks had an idea.
They lost.

https://www.oblon.com/augmented-reality-ar-patent-found-invalid-by-district-court-in-nantworks-vs-niantic

[safe tendon]

You can't own ideas

[keen river]

Tell that to IP law

[tranquil obsidian]

sadly you sort of can

[lapis swallow]

I think that depends on the amount of money you throw at the situation.

[rapid marsh]

Tell that to Nantworks

[keen river]

I have no idea what a Nantwork is.

[tranquil obsidian]

namco bandai for example patented the idea of putting minigames in loading screens and then never used it, but because they owned the idea noone else could do it. by the time the patent expired, loading screens were so much shorter it became redundant anyway

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-colors-no-copyright-law-in-the-universe-is-going-to-stop-me-copyright-law-sonic-gif-21720753

[teal iron]

Unfortunately that is us court not japan

[rapid marsh]

Yup, but still a good example

[teal iron]

Well it's not precedent for dismissal if it's not in Japan

[tranquil obsidian]

the thing is, you can be sanctioned outside of japan even if its a national incident.

[teal iron]

Nintendo doesn't have to invalidate the findings of a US court on asinine patents

[worldly pond]

didnt devil may cry games had a mini game in loading screens lol

[teal iron]

Pocket pair has to convince a Japanese court that these patents are asinine and irrelevant

Mostly irrelevant

[worldly pond]

they're a small team too lol

[tranquil obsidian]

it had to be removed in a later version iirc

[hexed tusk]

I think other IPs using the "patent" could be grounds for dismissal, unless Nintendo wants to argue that they should have the right to take out IPs that have existed for decades without issue.

[worldly pond]

Hm, it should still be in 3? but yeah it stupid af. it basically them trying to profit off of others and actually holding the industry back lol

[rapid marsh]

Which then opens up Nintendo to counter cases because everyone steals from everyone in that industry

[worldly pond]

they're legit japanese version of disney lol

[keen river]

I hope Pocketpair is successful. I just don't trust the Japanese Courts to not favor Nintendo, no matter how scummy.

[safe tendon]

Let's just hope Palworld comes out ok

[tranquil obsidian]

if nintendo do win, theyll likely then have to make their case to the EU =p this lawsuit reeks of monopoly

[hexed tusk]

Sony just signed a huge partnership with Pocketpair, so I could see them getting involved. They have a financial incentive to keep Palworld going.

[lapis swallow]

On monster tamers?

[teal iron]

Maybe

IDK if Japanese law works that way

[tranquil obsidian]

101/102 (102 specifically i believe) effectively requires companies to behave in a manner that does not hinder competition in the industry at the expense of the consmer.

[teal iron]

I would assume Nintendo wouldn't file unless they are least knew they could start a legal drag

So I don't expect an easy dismissal

[hexed tusk]

It seems easy enough for Nintendo to lobby Japanese law, so I'm sure Sony could do it as well. They're just as big.

[teal iron]

Even if they can't WIN they definitely hope to at least cost PP a lot of money

[lapis swallow]

Or force a fold down to expense.

[rapid marsh]

Sony did however just suffer a large set back on the stock market plus the failure of a game (concord).

[hexed tusk]

Hm, true. All the more reason to push Palworld media, though.

[rapid marsh]

That said, Microsoft also has incentive to keep palworld.

[hexed tusk]

Yeah, they got Palworld before PlayStation, which has yet to get it.

[rapid marsh]

As does steam.

[teal iron]

Yeah but are any of these companies gonna actually do anything

[hexed tusk]

Palworld sold incredibly well on Xbox, too. This one isn't going to be easy for Nintendo.

[lapis swallow]

I feel like thinking another big company is going to get involved for a relatively niche game is pure cope, ngl. Just being realistic.

[humble parrot]

Legal council maybe.

[rapid marsh]

Yup. I got GP, but I still bought the PP

[tranquil obsidian]

if it makes it to PS itll likely sell well there too, especially in japan

[teal iron]

Valve didn't do anything to stop Nintendo from taking dolphin off its stores
Which
Maybe that's because dolphin wasn't really generating revenue

[hexed tusk]

Microsoft definitely won't, but Sony has an active partnership with them, which they may or may not take seriously.

[keen river]

If anything, I'm just glad someone managed to scare TPC this hard. I just wish they would rather spend the resources making Pokemon better, rather than taking out competition. I'll take any support, MS, Sony, etc if it means Palworld continues.

[hexed tusk]

Sony could make bank off of an animated series, a TCG, and merch.

[teal iron]

Tbh this lawsuit is a rounding error for TPC

[hexed tusk]

Sony could also fund future Palworld content.

[teal iron]

It won't impact any rational game development plans

[lapis swallow]

It's wild to think Sony could have had pokemon once upon a time...

[rapid marsh]

they’ll continue churning the same shit they’ve churned for years- the safe way is the stable way.

[teal iron]

Pokemon Micro and Pokemon Transaction?

[humble parrot]

Nah, it's more for revenge, it made them look incompetent.

[rapid marsh]

That’s EA games

[teal iron]

They already are incompetent

[safe tendon]

25 million copies sold

[humble parrot]

Yes.

[humble parrot]

Yes. Games are TPC's weakest point

[teal iron]

SV sold only 23 million copies which is why I think Pokemon is starting to struggle as a franchise it should be pulling far greater numbers

[humble parrot]

With how the Switch sold, yeah.

[safe tendon]

I'd be embarrassed as well if my Scarlet and Violet sold 23 million copies

[rapid marsh]

And that was their best numbers too iirc or was that sword/ shield?

[teal iron]

Nah it was like gen 1 or 2 that had the best at something like 50 million

[tranquil obsidian]

watch this turn out to have nothing to do with palworld and its actually the "using hats to possess enemies" from pocketpairs next game =p

[rapid marsh]

Oh yeah, 1990s were a massive boom for handhelds back then.

[teal iron]

They specifically cited Palworld as funny as it would be

[rapid marsh]

Heck, Pokémon cards were banned in school 😆

[teal iron]

Lol

[rapid marsh]

Used to be punch ups in the playground when someone flicked a bunch of commons in a game of rumbles.

[teal iron]

Yeah like I said I think the Franchise is, for the standards being set before it, kinda failing to even meet the 💵 💰 🤑 expectations

[lapis swallow]

These are from 8 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1akho5c/an_updated_list_of_all_main_series_pokémon_games/

[rapid marsh]

It’s because Pokémon company now sucks investor dicks

[teal iron]

And I mean at least with sword and shield you had to actually pick a location to find bad graphics

SV had bad graphics in the opening cutscene I don't think even the internet bubble can contain that level of sloppiness

[lapis swallow]

Scv may end up passing swsh by the end of the switch lifetime but it's kind of hard to say at the moment.

[teal iron]

People bought it but will they buy another?

I think it's a legitimate question

[lapis swallow]

I mean , yes.

[teal iron]

Of course the next game will sell tens of millions but I think it's gonna do worse than SV

[keen river]

Pokemon can put out shovelware, too many people are emotionally invested, it's like emotional sunk cost fallacy, they can't and won't stop. Why there's a small but loud group that hate Palworld exists and are most liking cheering on Nintendo.

[lapis swallow]

We have to remember how much of a minority we are on the internet talking about it. This is not going to stop the parent from grabbing the new pokemon for their kid or the kid who grew up with sun/moon or swsh.

[rapid marsh]

Nope. I’m not going for switch 2. My switch already gathers dust any rate.

[rapid marsh]

A Pokémon garbage can filled with trash- they’d still buy it.

[teal iron]

Actually no fun fact most Palworld haters I've seen also hate Pokemon, or at least acknowledge that it's kinda trash

[safe tendon]

Massive steamy shit, slap Pokemon on it. Automatic 20 million sales

[rapid marsh]

Yes.

[keen river]

I haven't had that experience, I know more Pokemon fans, mostly cause what I do, and they love Pokemon still but hate Palworld.

[safe tendon]

Pokemon fans tend to hate any monster taming game that ISN'T Pokemon

[rapid marsh]

Ironically most Pokémon fans I know in persons (bar one who’s a judge for events), think Palworld is better. The Pokémon we adults should have had.

[keen river]

Tribalism is a hell of a drug.

[brazen seal]

Anyone hear about this?

[rapid marsh]

If it’s the law case. Yes. We know. Chats been exploding all day…..

[brazen seal]

They filed a patent infringement suit against Pocketpair. It makes no sense.

[rapid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/reset-the-clock-pacific-rim-gif-11299826

[safe tendon]

I can make all Pokemon fans unite easily....."I wanna be the very best"

Nostalgia is a drug

[heavy zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

Pokémon unite, and opening in the same sentence…

[safe tendon]

Personally I've always hated the anime AND Ash

[rapid marsh]

Ah, old memories. The joys of being young and sailor moon is on the channel 😆

[keen river]

"I wanna be the very best" I love not even TPC can vouch for that.

[humble parrot]

Ash got fired so

[rapid marsh]

Yeah, after abandoning pidgeot for 25 fkn years…

[safe tendon]

I always preferred Red anyway. He's a WAY better trainer

[lapis swallow]

I bet ash could have been a great protagonist, even if he wasn't the best but his character was kind of mishandled.

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-27299651

[rapid marsh]

They turned him into fkn Mario ffs….

[lapis swallow]

I don't see red as a "pokemon" character and I think it would be a mistake for the anime to focus on them. Or else they would basically just be ash.

They seem like an outsider because they are one.

[cyan shore]

I just hope they can atleast finish the game and have the tree map part

[rose topaz]

I heard Pokemon masters ex mobile games got a disaster anniversary event.

[lapis swallow]

I haven't played ex in forever but it's a masterclass in quality fanservice.

[safe tendon]

The Pokemon origins 4 episode anime was more entertaining to watch than Ashs entire adventure

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-origins-origins-pokemon-red-and-blue-pokemon-red-gif-24030239

[lapis swallow]

It was also nothing like the main anime though. Kids shows have to be structured differently than a web series like origins.

If you swapped ash and red out in the main series you'd have almost the exact same issues.

Just with a more competent trainer.

[safe tendon]

I would like a more competent trainer who actually evolves Pokemon and learns throughout his adventure rather than reset EVERY region

[humble parrot]

Charmander's head 💀

Since it's cut off there, it feels like it's head is spinning in place

I can almost hear the cracks and snaps

[safe tendon]

Also Digimon exist and they certainly didn't treat kids like they couldn't understand anything

[quartz magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRDJ5FnxZHg

music

[humble parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-music-listening-gif-18335467

[quartz magnet]

[sharp bough]

You can get a patent for anything. Due to the high numbers of requests, most patent offices just approve nearly anything, and let the courts sort it out if any conflicts arise.

[quartz magnet]

https://youtu.be/qFd_iWlYMZE

[formal scarab]

I don't want to lose my favorite home game on Steam because I love Chillet! Also, Sakurajima Island to make my new dream base! 😢

[safe tendon]

I feel you

Our only hope is to hope Palworld can win...or survive

[livid heron]

I mean, it's a patent lawsuit. They haven't said which patents they supposedly infringed on, but I'm willing to bet prior art will invalidate the patents in question: I don't really see anything in the patents assigned to pokemon company that would stand for this.

[formal scarab]

I'll be so mad if Nintendo and Pokemon Company wiped out the entire Palworld game.

You don't want to see if Palworld game will be erased on Steam, Xbox, or other gaming systems, right?

[chrome dirge]

To be honest, a patent lawsuit is less about art, and more about systems... for instance, the very act of riding our pals around could be what it is, or capturing creatures to make our slaves friends could be under fire

[livid heron]

Yeah, but patents can and have been revoked for prior art

[sharp bough]

Patenting the idea of mounts? I am sure Blizzard would like to have a word about that.

[hexed tusk]

I liked the Pokémon anime at first, but it started to really drag when Ash just made no progress and had his overall experience reset with every new region post Johto.

[chrome dirge]

Tbh, i wish nintendo execs and lawyers a very merry get bent

[livid heron]

I'm looking through the list, they've patented what effectively describes every fast travel system in an online mmo... In 2024. They also "patented" a program to give directions to a destination while suggesting a preferred path in the last few years. Ever used Google maps?

[hexed tusk]

Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter, too.

[livid heron]

The handful of things there that might even affect palworld are things that have prior art from over 20 years ago

[hexed tusk]

I know Xenoblade did that, but I'm not sure that's unique to it.

[livid heron]

One of them actively describes having a character that can be shared between multiple games with shared state data on a server

Either way, will have to wait till someone says which supposed patents are infringed

[tranquil obsidian]

i still remember the time nintendo tried to claim they invented a new concept of "Free-To-Start" games

and then everyone pointed out "that's literally just a demo"

[ripe knoll]

Nintendo tries to patent literally everything in their games, I think theres one for how the totk camera follows link

[crude ginkgo]

Well, I'm done with Nintendo, and Pokemon forever [That includes Merchandise, too].

[earnest prism]

Same here

[formal scarab]

Wait! What about Pokemon GO?

[earnest prism]

Apparently I heard they've got a patent on pressing a button and throwing a sphere, among tons of others

[royal valve]

Curious how Pocketpair is gonna respond to Nintendo

[junior hawk]

Make a new Pal that’s just a purple Charizard I’m sure 😂

[solid charm]

Could happen

[royal valve]

That would be funny

Would like to see Nintendo lose since they attacked the Garry's Mod community upsetting a decade of status quo for no reason other then Nintendo.

[novel ledge]

Lawsuit huh

Took those kids 1 year to make one 💀

[earnest prism]

Nothing good will come from a Nintendo victory here, especially with common law. They're doing it to palworld so they can start stifling other companies later I just know it

[novel ledge]

Bro they only doing the lawsuit because those people want to be the only company to even be part of the Pokemon world

More like little kids that can't grow up so they just want more money for there game 💀

[hexed tusk]

Yeah, they're desperately trying to cling onto their monopoly of the genre.

[covert ferry]

Just replace the balls with diamond shaped capture devices and you're golden. ez. /jk

[quartz magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMCd5zrsFpE

[ebon onyx]

https://x.com/dexerto/status/1836582266585202903?s=61&t=ZST7_WYV5K5nAQnYVVNYsA
Idk if this is part of offtopic or in general discussion but I'd wanna share this

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

Palworld Community Manager tweeted a smiley face emoji after news of the Nintendo/Pokémon lawsuit broke — this tweet has since been deleted

Twitter · Sep 19, 2024, 1:45 AM

[novel ledge]

In general Nintendo is going to win this lawsuit

[ebon onyx]

Nintendo taking an L move by suing Palworld.. what in thr actual f-

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-rohan-kishibe-i-refuse-gif-26066583

[novel ledge]

On less the owners and devs can have proof that this game was was not a infrastructure

[safe tendon]

From what I found out one for sure thing is the aim and throw mechanics from Pokemon legends is a target

[ebon onyx]

I doubt they'll win. They do not have any solid evidence, plus the game itself is not in pokemon game mechanic, it's more of a survival genre mixed with monster catching

[safe tendon]

Pal Sphere and Pokeballs

[ebon onyx]

Ahh yes, a less convincing proof that a pal sphere is actually a pokeball redesign

Very convincing indeed

[safe tendon]

For some reason Nintendo has rights to the "Ball catchs monster"

[junior hawk]

Nintendo has the patent on circles

[novel ledge]

You so they have no evidence when the game itself has been proven to be a copie of Pokemon games. Also considering that some pals in this game look a lot like Pokemon. So yes they have a lot of proof

[ebon onyx]

I bet $20 that they'll never win this "legal sueing case" of theirs. It's actually bonkers

[ebon onyx]

In which monsters? Aside from Cinderace, Lucario a-like?

[safe tendon]

Dude Nintendo has ALREADY admitted that they have similarities but not enough to actually do anything

[earnest prism]

Japanese patent law is nuts, it's also the just like our patent law since 2013

[novel ledge]

Now there doing something

[safe tendon]

Yeah FOR GAME MECHANICS

[ebon onyx]

In monster design, they may have similarities- but do keep in mind that Nintendo DID the same way as Dungeons and Dragons

[safe tendon]

And dragon quest

[ebon onyx]

Exactly

[safe tendon]

But guys it's a PATENT not a COPYRIGHT DESIGN

[ebon onyx]

I'm talking about the game mechanics

[safe tendon]

This guy

[ebon onyx]

Do keep in mind- the design is clearly an inspiration, or somewhat having similarities

[safe tendon]

The only game mechanic I see is Pal Sphere and Pokeballs

[ebon onyx]

But game mechanics is a different story

[junior hawk]

Can we all agree to stop buying Nintendo products over this?

[safe tendon]

Little late. I haven't in quite some time

[ebon onyx]

I'm already cancelling pre-ordering future pokemon games

[safe tendon]

Pokemon is stale

It's BEEN stale

[ebon onyx]

Even I am a pokemon fan, but gonna have to respect some other games that I love as well. Palworld is one of them and Nerd-tendos are sueing PocketPair?

[junior hawk]

Same. I just want everyone else on board. Nintendo and the Pokémon company have been releasing garbage for generations and they keep trying to stop anyone from taking the genre forward.

[uneven silo]

Maybe instead of suing more successful game companies, Nintendo should whip out a notebook and take notes on why they succeeded

[safe tendon]

EXACTLY

[ebon onyx]

If anything they have BILLIONS of money, TONS of resources yet they do crappy games with glitchy mechanics

[safe tendon]

All this money STILL no voice acting

[ebon onyx]

They have all the things, all of those techs yet- sold copies separately

And when we play the game, the graphics.. everything on it- wtf?

[safe tendon]

All pals have unique animations for work AND for battle

[uneven silo]

Let's not even mention some of the pokemon designs

[ebon onyx]

And compairing to Palworld, the quality is there! That is what I really love and it shows a new way of monster capture game with survival mechanics

In general, it's a fresh air to breath

[safe tendon]

I actually care about my pals because they have expressions

[uneven silo]

If anyone should be suing pocketpair it's the company that developed ark because they used more mechanics from ark than pokemon lol

[ebon onyx]

Oh yeah! Like after you pet them, or they are finish their work, they have this cute smiley animation!

It give soo much life about Pals

[uneven silo]

But even that is a stretch

[ebon onyx]

Tbh.. and in my opinion, Palworld is like a reborn pokemon but a better version

[safe tendon]

That's the problem... it's showing how lazy Pokemon is

[ebon onyx]

Definitely

[uneven silo]

It's not even pokemon because there's barely any "trainers", no "gym leaders", and no "pokemon league". It's just a bunch of different regions and different evil organizations and their crime bosses

[ebon onyx]

Also that too- the differences of pokemon and palworld

[sick knoll]

Ah yes Nintendo sue Palworld who has the support of microsoft....smart move

[olive seal]

Ugh yall still on that same topic??? It’s been like this the wholeeee dayyyy

[safe tendon]

Yeah but all Nintendo sees is "AHH THEY CAPTURE AND TAME MONSTERS"

[olive seal]

Talking about will not change anything yall

It*

[indigo kite]

Morning everyone

[uneven silo]

This is also #off-topic

[safe tendon]

Exactly

Just go to general

[ebon onyx]

Yeah, off topic is off topic

[olive seal]

Ig it’s better here than palworld general but isn’t this palworld related?

[quartz magnet]

Mornin Light

[ebon onyx]

If anything you wanna say specifically, go to #palworld-general

[uneven silo]

And I don't see any other channel where we can discuss this topic, so it must be an off topic topic, making this channel the perfect channel for it

[ebon onyx]

We are talking about Nintendo sueing Palworld

[olive seal]

Everyone is talking about it in palworld general

[uneven silo]

It's not exclusively about palworld either, it's Nintendo vs pocketpair

[ebon onyx]

Soo this is a best fit here

Yeah, controversies such as we are talking rn is off topic

[restive sparrow]

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/corporate/release/en/2024/240919.html

[olive seal]

Ig for next week it’s gonna be like this for all channels then

[restive sparrow]

DAMN F Nintendo

[quartz magnet]

also yup. ya guys are discursing in the correct channel, dont worry

[safe tendon]

Oh yeah I forgot Pocket pair is partnerd with Microsoft and Sony

[olive seal]

You are in the correct channel ig but still been seeing it alll day in every channel 😭

[junior hawk]

Can the general public sue a company? We should counter sue Nintendo.

[uneven silo]

I'm just gonna sit back, grab some popcorn, and watch the show

[ebon onyx]

But Istg, I would LOVE to see the process of Nintendo "sueing" Palworld. Would be age like fine wine and eating such a luxurious meal A5 Grade Steak

[sick knoll]

Nintendo really tryna sue the two console giants 🤓

[wheat crane]

when is the show

[ebon onyx]

Nerd-tendo L

[uneven silo]

When Michael Bay directs a movie and makes the courtroom more entertaining by having random explosions

[olive seal]

We should get Nintendo where it hurts , and not watch Mario 2

Movies are expensive, so let’s boycott the movie

[safe tendon]

Honestly I just don't see Nintendo winning. I honestly think they are aiming for Pocket pairs money

[ebon onyx]

Bunch of "hardworking" nintendo employees- with millions of dollars having in their hand and sueing Palworld who dedicated their hands with buckets of flashdrives and limited budget who successfully made such quality game

[olive seal]

You not a mod dude but you correct 😁

[olive seal]

Don’t they always win tho? I don’t recall a case where they have lost

[safe tendon]

My dude...it is LITERALLY impossible to boycott Nintendo

[olive seal]

They usually sue once they are pretty confident they can win so yeah….

[ebon onyx]

One thing for sure, they lost a lot of customers

[safe tendon]

Nintendo is aiming for damage to Palworld

[olive seal]

We are nothin but a small fraction of their users tho, the average consumer won’t care and keep buying their stuff

[safe tendon]

I don't think they care about winning as long as Palworld loses money

[uneven silo]

If anything, they're only damaging their own reputation with this

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[junior hawk]

I think this is exactly what it is. They realized they were losing control of the genre when palworld launched with so much success

[ebon onyx]

Nintendo: damages reputation fine.. I have to do myself sueing PocketPair

[olive seal]

Plus not sure who needs to hear this but Nintendo games and consoles are mainly aimed at kids which don’t care at all about legal issues

[junior hawk]

Nintendo uses lawsuit! It hurt itself In confusion!

[ebon onyx]

Unless if a responsible adult would want to buy nintendo games to kids-

[safe tendon]

This is Nintendo "They. Are. To. Big. To. Fail.

[olive seal]

Older adults won’t tell their kids “don’t buy the game all your friends are playing cuz they evil”

Maybe some parents but the effect still be insignificant

[ebon onyx]

Exactly lmao

[junior hawk]

If kids want Pokémon the parents failed.

[ebon onyx]

Oh dear, I am a failure

[junior hawk]

I’ll just give mine my copy of omega ruby. That’s the last good Pokémon game

[ebon onyx]

But succeed in failure-ology

[safe tendon]

But now we gotta Put in Sony and Microsoft

[olive seal]

They also have smash bros, Mario, Mario party, Mario theme parks Mario movies, Mario kart, legend of Zelda etc etc etc etc

[safe tendon]

Palworld is partnerd with both

[olive seal]

Pokemon black was the last best pokemon

[quartz magnet]

Sony?

[junior hawk]

Eh. The Legend of Zelda is the only thing I’ll miss from Nintendo however that’s gone downhill since BotW imo

[ebon onyx]

All we can do is wait till the news update about this lawsuit crap will be over soon

[safe tendon]

Sony music and also they are working on a Palworld anime

[ebon onyx]

The pokemon games I really like is Black and White, the part 2 versions.. and Pokemon Mystery Dungeons!

[quartz magnet]

Oh, Sony music. yeah

[olive seal]

Exactly my point which will take years yet everyone keeps talking about it 😭 every few minutes a new person appears saying “palworld got sued” 😭

[safe tendon]

I don't know the updates are coming out pretty fast

[sick knoll]

bro this is what the channel is for why tf you still complaining 😭

[ebon onyx]

I wonder where they get those fake news that Palworld got sued? Must be copium

[safe tendon]

I'm constantly researching as we speak

[olive seal]

I’m over all complaining cuz it’s in all channels, even some tried in craftopia channels

[safe tendon]

It's big because if Palworld gets shutdown it's over for this server

[olive seal]

It will take yearsssss to settle , but we should first wait for Pocketpair statement/ also Bucky didn’t seem worried and he the community manager here

[olive seal]

Yes, it’s scary 😭

[sick knoll]

bro just log off discord if you dont wanna see it, its going to be talked about no matter what you do

[olive seal]

I know, nothing wrong with complaining tho 😁

[ebon onyx]

I'm pretty sure that they can handle it well. And of course got this!

I mean.. Bucky himself send a smiley emoji on Twitter

[olive seal]

I can’t wait for Pocketpair to say something! It will calm everyone

[olive seal]

Exactly, and if anyone knows something is him

[safe tendon]

They need to tell us

[olive seal]

Unless they say something like”it’s the end for the company everyone panic” (which hopefully doesn’t happen) I’m sure it will be fine 😅

[safe tendon]

I don't want Palworld gone

[patent jewel]

What "patent infringement" could there possibly be? I'm legitimately really eager to see Nintendo's argument here, because there can't be stolen code (since it's a game built from the ground up), the model copying was faked and creature collectors are not unanimously owned by Nintendo.

The only worry I have is that they're trying to force Pocketpair to go bankrupt via keeping them in legal limbo for years and years.

[ebon onyx]

Relax. It won't go away

[patent jewel]

But, Pocketpair has a lot more money than other companies that Nintendo has harassed

[quartz magnet]

We dont know

theres a bunch of theorys and speculations in #palworld-general rn. but we dont know exacly what is

[olive seal]

Something about 3D battles and palspheres or something idk everyone saying different things in palworld general lol

[patent jewel]

I am surprised it took so long, though. That's the only reason I think Nintendo could have found something legitimate.

[frozen bluff]

My suggestion is patience. Legal issues take both that and time to go through. I think we will get some answer in the coming days/weeks. This thing JUST happened, and the pocketpair team is probably in discussion with their legal teams.

[olive seal]

Probably waiting to have a strong case first

[patent jewel]

I don't see a strong case right now I'm ngl

I see a desperate company who hates competition that affects their low-effort remakes

[olive seal]

As far as I can recall Nintendo hasn’t lost a case 😬

[frozen bluff]

But Nintendo's cases were also against blatant infringements. Those are rarely lost

[olive seal]

Might be wrong tho, not know many Nintendo cases 😅

[patent jewel]

Mostly because when they have no ground to stand on, they just abuse being far more wealthy and force the other company to give up

[ebon onyx]

So far the game isn't in term of.. "violation" most of the designs have similarities, yes, could definitely change that- but in terms of game mechanics? I don't think so. Not sure on other elements about coding and stuff but there's nothing very pokemon-ish on Palworld. Palworld is just.. plain simple survival monster catching game

[safe tendon]

I mean... Nintendo is known for just deleting competition because no other monster taming genre can exist

[frozen bluff]

It's kind of hard to "delete" Palworld

[olive seal]

Don’t say digimon cuz digimon is ded

[patent jewel]

And, yeah, they've never sued a game that actually has a unique stance on creature collectors before iirc. It's always turn-based, for one thing

[frozen bluff]

Too many people know about it

[cyan acorn]

Hope palworld loses the lawsuit

[olive seal]

And here goes a troll

[patent jewel]

Dragon Quest: Monsters came to mind, but I suppose there's probably a reason Square Enix never released it outside Nintendo platforms

[olive seal]

Nintendo gets a big percentage off sales so probably that

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/emmy-amy-poehler-peace-out-peace-sign-peace-gif-13956226

[ebon onyx]

One thing that Nintendo I can describe is being scummy. A big company tries to file a lawsuit because it is "similar"

[safe tendon]

Anyways

[frozen bluff]

Nintendo is the Disney of the gaming sphere

[quartz magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/white-rat-white-nutria-big-rat-huge-rat-big-white-rat-gif-11991559707914163733

[patent jewel]

Obviously, Nintendo is possibly more scummy than Disney

[quartz magnet]

big rat

[ebon onyx]

You read my mind

[olive seal]

Disney is truly truly evil

[frozen bluff]

!!HUGE RAT!!

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-sassy-gay-choreography-lgbt-gif-22409823

[cyan acorn]

That’s a cat

[tough comet]

the rat king

[safe tendon]

Have you guys seen the comments? I wasn't aware Palworld had so much hate!

[patent jewel]

Anyway, no reason to be panicking over this tbh. I'm gonna go get ready for college, take care all

[ebon onyx]

Wait, on Twitter?

[frozen bluff]

The comments on what? I don't pay attention to clickbait articles 😂

[olive seal]

Reddit hates palworld and a lot of people seem to think it’s just another ripoff

[ebon onyx]

So much hate comments on twitter?

[frozen bluff]

Or twitter

[safe tendon]

Twitter, YouTube you name it

[olive seal]

You mean the usual? lol

[safe tendon]

Steam

[quartz magnet]

nope
two shitholes. just waste of time

[frozen bluff]

It's reddit bro. The opinions of chicken nugget warriors mean nothing to me

[ebon onyx]

Oh I can sense some attack going on

Ahh yes, they are trying to take palworld down

[frozen bluff]

Mhm, one chicken nugget and pound gained at a time 😂

[ebon onyx]

But it doesn't change anything- and if Palworld wins this, Nintendo would really severly damage their name

[olive seal]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-argue-um-excuse-me-meme-i-want-to-suggest-ah-gif-16740228

[frozen bluff]

If pocketpair wins this that would be hilarious

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

To big to fail

[ebon onyx]

We will just wait and see

[olive seal]

If Nintendo is like Disney they will continue to make a ton of profit regardless of their actions

[quartz magnet]

Nintendo fanbois are too brainwashed at this point.

[safe tendon]

Guys Nintendo can literally take a huge steaming pile of shit, slap Pokemon on it and then sell 20 million copies

[ebon onyx]

Nvm

[quartz magnet]

wasnt that Disney? oh

[ebon onyx]

Yeah it was disney nvm

[quartz magnet]

[ebon onyx]

xD

[quartz magnet]

and if their fans follow this mindset,, it will never change

[ebon onyx]

Hard to change cause they never want change

Thus.. the cycle repeats

[frozen bluff]

Honestly y'all, should wait for the official statement from pocketpair before dedicating all this energy to worrying. It's unreasonable and costs too much energy to worry about something we don't have the full story on yet.

[teal iron]

We already made that joke

[quartz magnet]

"oh they too big", "they are too power", "oh my childhold. oh the nostalgia"

[ebon onyx]

Well, true that. Just wait and see. I'll be off and gonna play some other games. I'm done with Palworld and got everything and maybe I'll replaying it once I am done with other games

[safe tendon]

Ash, Pokemon The first Movie and blah blah blah blah so on

[quartz magnet]

im not even worried... cause like, if theres something to actually worry.. what even i can do about it? i will simple continue to enjoy the game and media i like

[frozen bluff]

I started a challenge run up to give myself something fresh to do in the game, but that's the stance a lot of people have. Waiting for more content and all

At the end of the day, Nintendo can't unplay ~300 hours spent in Palworld. It can't be erased from my memory

[teal iron]

Based mindset

[tough comet]

yeah, we shouldnt jump to conclusions

[teal iron]

They certainly can't uncancel my non-existent plans to buy their newest disappointment of a Pokemon "game"

[frozen bluff]

I said earlier that their feet must have healed from the last time they shot them lmfao

[tough comet]

meanwhile the internet just explodes 5-9min videos on the whole thing several hours after the fact

[frozen bluff]

We should not. Any hate seen is just bitter Nintendo fans who think their fat cat of a company is finally validating their bitterness. No reason to dedicate energy to fighting them either.

[quartz magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-meme-apple-snaffling-terraria-gif-24169394

[frozen bluff]

Der fredi fazber

[tough comet]

Apple

[safe tendon]

I don't know why but I feel happy about that smiley face one of the developers posted

[tough comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276433593341579334/1286211219144839188/image.png?ex=66ed150b&is=66ebc38b&hm=c2ffc1eaed73b422eb36d1d035f24c3b008ba199342798a2b242241c8d392a57&

its 2:30am

[sage temple]

This is still morning

[safe tendon]

Well I'll be back after I convey more research

[frozen bluff]

I'm gonna go ahead and sleep, as I am now cozy in bed

Goodnight y'all

[quartz magnet]

nighty Cynic. slep well

[safe tendon]

Night

I need to heavily analyze Pokemons gaming mechanics now

Starting from Gen 1 to now.....

Oh and spinoffs

[modest obsidian]

https://fandomwire.com/pokemon-just-won-a-nintendo-level-lawsuit-against-a-game-infringing-on-copyright-and-its-not-palworld/

palworld did nothing wrong @snow thistle

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dream.miraibo&hl=en_US

worry about this 😦 ^

[quartz magnet]

[sage temple]

I can’t read past the cancerous level of ads. Plz explain

[barren spoke]

Try Korean "cheese"-flavored noodle soup
It tastes nothing like cheese
In fact it tastes like someone slipped and dunked a whole bag of sugar in the seasoning

[quartz wave]

#FUCKNINTENDO

[hexed tusk]

Why is the eye going up onto the ear? 💀

[surreal vessel]

Nintendo: 'They stole from us!' Dragon Quest has entered the chat xD

[rapid marsh]

Every other gaming company has entered the chat.

Nintendo have a patent for “vending machine”.
Plenty of games have those

Storage boxes- other games have those too.

Mounts- uh. Yeah. Those exist in other IPs

They’re setting themselves up for an ass fucking with no lube

[surreal vessel]

I just honestly want Nintendo to pull their heads out of their butts and come up with great Pokemon games again. Haven't played a single Pokemon game since Platinum

[rapid marsh]

They won’t. I won’t be touching A-Z when it drops either.

No more $$$ from me for them..

[surreal vessel]

Mhm, Nintendo needs to wise up and actually bring CREATIVITY to the table and not just money grabs!

[small berry]

ngl, my mum is a 70 y.o that loves pokemon and she thought 90% of pals were pokemons

idk what the patent can be tbh

[sick flame]

And Nintendo/TPC players should be ashamed and not show up on social media. They will shut down Pokemon fan games and possible other games and players continue to defend the corporation. Pathetic

And I swear that you fans will be slaves to Nintendo or even TPC and kiss their boots

[small berry]

Bethesda actually priced a 76 DLC for 1999usd lmao

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-surprised-surprised-cat-stare-cat-stare-gif-112276495113776365

thats as much as a new computer

[small berry]

they added too many 9's I guess, it slipped

[tough comet]

[small berry]

twas only temporary

[safe tendon]

Ok so one of the infringements are indeed "Using spherical objects to capture monsters"

[small berry]

I'd be worried more about models from pals tbh

that's the only thing I can see Palworld crossing a few lines

if by coincidence they've made something too similar they'll go for the throat

[safe tendon]

Can't. It's a Patent lawsuit NOT a Copyright design lawsuit.

[small berry]

They don't have every single pokemon in existence patented then?

[safe tendon]

strictly means GAME MECHANICS

[small berry]

I c I c, thanks for the clarification

[safe tendon]

Pal Sphere and Pokeballs are the only one I can see

Also did everyone just forget that they already did an investigation on the similarities? They already came out and said they are similar but nothing that violates copyright 8 months ago

[small berry]

I'm not a particular legal eagle

good to know that already happened

[safe tendon]

Palworld devs seem pretty chill about this tho

[small berry]

Nintendo is a pretty big company indeed

and Laws in some places are kinda nonsensical

maybe they know worst case scenario they pay a fine or something

[sonic hound]

Fucking hell Nintendo is so cringe

[plain latch]

Duh unmentioned patent

[small berry]

How I see it, Palworld wouldn't be what it is without Pokemon, Nintendo is mad, but we have stuff to thank them

[plush plover]

Damn, it took them a while to actually do a lawsuit against Palworld and now they're choosing to do it at this moment? Not sure if they've done it even after the release of the game though

[olive igloo]

Regarding the lawsuit, I believe the correct course of action would have been giving Pocketpair a considerable funding and beginning discussion of having "pokemon skins" in the game for some of the pals. THAT is how you act professionally. Filing a lawsuit just shows how petty people are.

[small berry]

There shouldn't be bad blood and if Nintendo needs this as a corporation, let them try, they "deserve" a try

[plain latch]

Nintendo shouldn't have a patent on sheres. If so our balls are in danger

[small berry]

it's how big corporations act, this decision probably involved dozens of employees in various departments

as I said, there shouldn't be bad blood between Pocketpair and Nintendo, Nintendo should understand that, let them clear some of that bad blood in court

[pearl moat]

fuck nintendo

[plain latch]

Sue Nintendo for baseless claims lol

[small berry]

if I was Nintendo I'd be mad, and if I was as powerful as Nintendo, I'd also move strings, just being honest

Pals indeed have "benefited" from the likeness of Pokemons, I think nobody would deny that, I'm not saying that's infringing on anything tho

Pocketpair and Nintendo should slowly over time develop different niches and they should see themselves more as partners in the monster catching genre than competitors

but that doesn't happen without clearing this bad blood

[olive igloo]

There is evidence of many big corporations reaching out to popular games to include their IP as either skins or even cameos. There is nothing wrong with doing that to games like this. It's wrong to try and file a lawsuit on an idea that's been dead in the water anyway. Nobody gives a flying Aerodactyl about Pokemon these days except for the hardcore fans. And guess what Pocketpair is doing. Bringing attention to their IP it's like free advertisement.
Any money they could win with this lawsuit will be PocketChange compared to the Eternatus-dwarfing gargantuan nosedive the IP's reputation will take if they carry through with trying to drag a small indie company through the mud that so many people now adore.
Just my 2cents.

I'm with Pocketpair on this. Hope they win the lawsuit.

[small berry]

It's a logical thought process, indeed

Nintendo is for people that want their monster hunting game pegi 10, Pocketpair is 16 at least, I think that should be a big niche differentiator

but that will take time to develop and mature

Right now the numbers probably scream at Nintendo, you're losing big on this

they need time to see things differently

[olive igloo]

The best they can achieve is that MAYBE Palworld will have cubes instead of orbs if any change at all lmfao

[small berry]

If that makes legal and finance at Nintendo chill for a second, I think Pocketpair should allow it

It's the least I'd do if I was them

[tired zodiac]

No wait because why would that be kinda epic

[covert ferry]

"And its not palworld" yet the thumbnail is just palworld

[small berry]

I think the situation resembles Burger King and Mcdonalds

[olive igloo]

Apt.

[small berry]

it will take years of competing for them to realise they're not competitors

[narrow goblet]

Software Patents should be absolutely banished from the face of the cosmos and any insistence of someone suggesting they be used should have said suggestor used as paintball practice.

[safe tendon]

Yep it's definitely "Game mechanics"

I don't know how but Pokemon does indeed own the rights of "Spherical objects capturing monsters"

[small berry]

if they could they'd own the rights to having a dungeon and monsters in it

and all our dungeon crawlers would be set in a spa

[safe tendon]

They actually do own VERY little rights to the Monster Taming genre in general.... I'm not joking. This is shit even I didn't know about

[small berry]

Shouldn't Palworld be a more direct competitor to a game like Ark?

[safe tendon]

Yes but.... monster taming

[ebon onyx]

Monster taming with a survival mechanics

It's not really very close to Pokemon

[safe tendon]

Nintendo would sue a parent that named their child Mario

[ebon onyx]

Or Luigi

[small berry]

If you asked me, I would grant Nintendo that maybe having spheres to capture pals in such a 1:1 manner might have been a tad too much from Pocketpair

that's just me

[safe tendon]

I only see this case as petty potshots

[ebon onyx]

They do not own the concept of monster capture. There are tons of monster capture games that are similar to pokemon

[small berry]

ofc, that's what it is to Nintendo, they have a legal team, they have to use it

they pay to have them

it's routine for them

if anything it's not petty for Pocketpair

This is basically the legal team at Nintendo just earning their monthly wages, for them

[safe tendon]

Honestly all the research I've done I can only see Pocket pairs money taking a hit. Especially since it's only game mechanics. Meaning they'd have to change what was apparently infringed upon

TOTALLY different story if this was a Copyright Infringement tho

[ebon onyx]

If it was copyright, most of the pals would be extremely similar to Pokemon. I'd bet $20 that they claimed their "blue penguin" or "the lamb" were Pokemon's property

Tho.. there are some-

Like that Cinderace.. that Lucario

Only some I could thing of-

[safe tendon]

That's why I'm happy they already settled the "Similarities investigation"

[ebon onyx]

*think

[glad needle]

Exactly how long have Italian parents been using those names for their sons?

[ebon onyx]

So the child named Mario and Luigi are belong to Nintendo-

Sweet. Better get some papers ready

But seriously, tho- it's stupid

[glad needle]

How long?

[safe tendon]

If anything guys pocket pairs money will take a hit

But the game shouldn't shutdown

[glad needle]

My biggest concern is: can it be shutdown

[ebon onyx]

I mean, have you saw the comparison of the sell chart from Palworld to any Pokemon game?

[glad needle]

How much of a possibility is it

[ebon onyx]

Nintendo is a very big company, they'll do anything to shut it down, even in just few weeks and the game is down and out from the count

Most importantly, they'll do anything to eliminate their competitors

[safe tendon]

Pocketpair is the defendet....we need him more than ever

[ebon onyx]

Dependant?

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/aceattorney-phoenix-wright-evidence-papers-gif-10033464

[glad needle]

They’re gonna need Japan’s best lawyers

[ebon onyx]

Or the nation's best lawyers in regards to Japan Law

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney-gif-10514766078339482054

How I feel about Nintendo

[ebon onyx]

I wonder if this will be on live in the future that we could get to see Palworld vs. Pokemon Lawsuit

Like Johnny vs. Amber

[safe tendon]

Yeah guys I think we're safe on Palworld shutdown. Money will definitely take a hit tho

You know...I think this will just make more fans for Palworld

[glad needle]

Why doesn’t Nintendo go after all the disgusting Pokemon R34

[junior hawk]

Y’all ever think of Sunni and wonder if the Russians ever got her?

[safe tendon]

They'd have to take out the Internet

[ebon onyx]

Here's a fact about Nintendo: ever heard of Pokemon Uranium that was removed by Nintendo years ago? They immediately strike it down but not striking R34

[hot cedar]

i just wake up, Another reason to hate nintendo

[safe tendon]

Yep

[ebon onyx]

Yeepp, -100 respect from them

[hot cedar]

Like, they are trying to sue by patents??

[ebon onyx]

Exactly..

[safe tendon]

Game mechanics

[ebon onyx]

The "patents"

[hot cedar]

The patents in questions are stupid

[ebon onyx]

Agreed

[hot cedar]

You cant patent game mechanics

[safe tendon]

Spherical objects

[safe tendon]

Sadly you can in Japan

[hot cedar]

All nintendo do and other companys is thing that you theorical cant do

Nintendo patent Tear of the kingdom mechanics when gmod and half life did two decade ago

is so stupid

[ebon onyx]

Probably they are sueing because of the sphere or maybe because the design of the creatures? Or maybe they misunderstood about the game mechanics? Idek why the hell Nintendo is sueing all the sudden- like it came out randomly

[hot cedar]

Sphere probably

Since is about patents and not designs

[ebon onyx]

If the sphere- then why the f-

[safe tendon]

Pal Sphere=Pokeballs

[hot cedar]

Probably the made a recent patent to get a legal way to sue?

Anyway, i really hope they lose the case

[white violet]

A Pokémon patent issued just two weeks ago states, ``The player holds a capture item and fires it at a field character, and if it hits, a capture is determined, and if it is successful, the field character is transferred to the player. There is a game system that allows you to own it. (google translate)

[hot cedar]

Nintendo is making a no sense here

[ebon onyx]

They should know that they do not own the concept of the capture sphere. There are tons.. I mean TONS of monster capture game are similar to Pokemon

[hot cedar]

This is so stupid???

[safe tendon]

Yep what I've been seeing

[ebon onyx]

So if they own capture spheres does that mean they sue all the monster capture games?

Bull-

[hot cedar]

Nintendo is probably just trying to make Pocketpair ran out of money with stupid demands

[white violet]

yes, as you said the only thing they can sue is if designs or names are to similar, everything else they should loose with a good lawyer

[safe tendon]

They LITERALLY own the concept of capturing

[hot cedar]

Like, There is no way they can win with any patent

[ebon onyx]

But they didn't know.. Palworld can capture humans

[white violet]

I think its not meant to win, only to waste time and resources for Pocketpair

[safe tendon]

Apparently there's other mechanics as well but fuck me because I don't know what else mechanics Palworld and Pokemon share

[glass shoal]

Which means that pocketpair could just turn around and sue nintendo for damages.

[cobalt spruce]

Silver lining here could be Pocketpair shutting down the official servers to manage money and resources better

[ebon onyx]

And let me guess.. if I was an employee of Nintendo, I wound also complaining about guns in monster capture game- SUE PALWORD! THEY ARE KILLING ANIMALS lmao

Enslaving those poor critters

[safe tendon]

That's how they won that recent 15 million dollars lawsuit on that mobile game

[narrow goblet]

Nintendo in general needs a MASSIVE Kick in the Financial Balls to get ANY point across to them that they need to STOP being Massive Thunder %&$#'s

[safe tendon]

The patent played into as well

[olive igloo]

I looked into it. In my opinion it's the following things that might need to change:

1. Spheres
2. Pals that are too close in design and function to pokemons such as Sparkit

[glad needle]

If Pocketpair wanted to, they could sue furries for…what they do with pals

[narrow goblet]

That would NOT end well for Pocketpair

In anyway shape or form

[ebon onyx]

Why would they want that?

[small berry]

What's fair is fair, I agree with this

[glad needle]

They’re animals

[ebon onyx]

How could they

[white violet]

The Irony here is that if Nintendo would lose this, this would open BIG doors to monster tamer genre for everyone. As now eveeryone is sacred of this potential lawsuits. 🙃

[safe tendon]

Why do you think NO COMPANY tries to challenge rule 34

[narrow goblet]

Lets be honest...Nintendo hasn't been "Fair" as a company since the before WW2

[olive igloo]

You either disallow modding or you turn a blind eye to adult content.

No middle road.

[ebon onyx]

I mean they put 2 copies like black and white or scarlet and violet for over $60 each and they get $120

[safe tendon]

They already handled the "Similarities investigation" 8 months ago

[ebon onyx]

Yeah, it's fair for them but not fair for the consumers

[glad needle]

Nintendo already did the former, and theres still Pokemon porn

[ebon onyx]

Meanwhile Palworld offered $30 and this includes future DLC

[olive igloo]

I'd rather be able to have cool modded outfits than worry about what satisfies people I do not associate with.

[narrow goblet]

Nintendo is one of those absolutely Cut throat Companies that uses its influence to completely shape how people see it, they have the power and influence to easily make ANY bad drama before the internet exploded simply...disappear, While making Everything else they do seem like they're the next best thing since sliced bread.

[safe tendon]

I wonder what statement Pocketpair will put out?

[narrow goblet]

Morality and Legality are Extremely Seperate things for a reason

[olive igloo]

Agreed

It is one of the more eye opening realisations to adulthood that law does not equal justice. It can lead to it, in certain cases, but in most cases money wins over reason.

[narrow goblet]

To be fair, they were making porn Way before they made pokemon

[ebon onyx]

I mean it exist in the beginning of time

[narrow goblet]

yeah but the uh...Sex motels and Sexy playing Cards was...hehe

[glad needle]

I’d like to burn the whole porn industry to the ground tbh

[ebon onyx]

Okay back to the Palworld vs Nintendo topic

Nintendo sure know how to make their audience.. uhh.. making bonfires

[olive igloo]

Nothing's wrong with adult content as long as it can be disabled for those who do not care for it. Most mods are either local or need to be both local and server, which means it does not matter if you like your character naked, others don't need to worry about it.

[glad needle]

And the straight up bestiality content?

[olive igloo]

Pretty sure that's serverside too? Avoid servers like that.

I run my own world because I do not care to mingle and my friends aren't interested in too much social life either. We're just soloing next to one another.

[safe tendon]

Right there's nothing wrong with porn. If you're a and say you never masturbated before we all know that's the biggest lie in history

Guy

As long as it's not the REAL Fucked up shit it's fine because it's human nature for sexual things in general

We're not cavemen anymore

[rapid marsh]

Some still are though.

[safe tendon]

I mean look at Pocketpair. They CLEARLY know what Lovander is for

[rapid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-caveman-jumping-gif-13386789

[ebon onyx]

I'm changing my pfp to pals because of this

[glad needle]

We will boycott Nintendo into the ground

[safe tendon]

Again
They. Are. To. Big. To. Fail

[rapid marsh]

The reality is, I don’t want or need more Pokémon titles. pats the 3ds and soul silver

[ebon onyx]

Don't forget black and white and PMD

[safe tendon]

Honestly Pokemon needs to grow up like Digimon

[ebon onyx]

Digimon is such a chad

[safe tendon]

There's a reason why Pokemon gets most of its money from games and merchandise

and NOT the anime

[ebon onyx]

I miss the OG Ash

He was such a savage

And done changing pfp

[glad needle]

Lovanders are only good for target practice in my server

[ebon onyx]

And they put it on No.69 paldeck on purpose

[rapid marsh]

White 2, platinum, yellow and crystal on the 3ds as digital, moon, ultra sun, alpha saphire + soul silver. I think I’m good for titles.

[stuck crag]

This lawsuit is so stupid bruh

Nintendo makes a Pokemon based on Anubis, and suddenly no one can?

They made a standing up rabbit

[safe tendon]

Another thing Palworld does better is if you have a favorite and actually take the time to make them stronger you'll actually be able to use them

[rapid marsh]

Thing is, Palworld is new. That’s the draw. It’s also an Indy, not many people like giving Indy companies a chance.
That being said, majority of gamers are getting sick of “AAA” slop, which, Pokémon has been serving up.

[stuck crag]

So palworld can't make a green standing up rabbit

[small berry]

chill, it's probably just cause of the spheres used for catching pals

[glad needle]

I know just the Pal for my pfp

[small berry]

Pokemon could have been a WoW killer, change my mind

[safe tendon]

That's pretty much Pokemon fans for ya

[stuck crag]

There are thousands of monster Catching games with devices that catch monsters so that's just stupid

[heady light]

its not even about pals/pokemon being similar to eachother, its a game mechanics patent suit
like they patented the mechanic of capturing

[stuck crag]

Glazers

[small berry]

I've been told the lawsuit is for mechanics, not designs

[rapid marsh]

That being said, what was the record on steam? 2 million concurrent players at peak, just on steam?

[safe tendon]

Yes it is for game mechanics

[stuck crag]

Again, there are thousands of monster catching games out there, so why palworld?

[rapid marsh]

It will be a sad day if it ever comes to it.
Palworld is a breath of fresh air and fun in a stale market.

[glad needle]

Done

[heady light]

cause palworld is successful, and the public responce to it was "pokemon but good" (when tbh its more like ark/rust but good)

[rapid marsh]

Probably could have. If TPC didn’t like hiding in the shallow end of the pool where it’s safe.

[safe tendon]

But they embarrassed Pokemon, now they must die with all the other monster taming games that also embarrassed Pokemon

[stuck crag]

Tbh I enjoyed palworld more than Pokemon scarlet/violet and legends arceus

[rapid marsh]

Also because gamers are not allowed nice things, only trash repeats.

[stuck crag]

Nintendo might just be jealous of the success of palworld

[glad needle]

Got my new PFP

[rapid marsh]

“Might”? Were you there in 1995 when Pokémon dropped?

Pokémon knows exactly what’s up, because it was once there.

[heady light]

yeah, i hear that a lot, but imo its more like rust/ark/minecraft than pokemon

[stuck crag]

Only thing similar to pokemon is catching monsters and you can tame Dinos in arc too

[rapid marsh]

Pokémon was once like Palworld is now, and they went from being referred to as a “Fad” to becoming the beast it is today. Sadly that beast is happily wallowing in its own decay.

[heady light]

:nods:

[stuck crag]

Pokemon is probably gonna die in the next 5 years

They stopped making good games for Pokemon

Like tbh some indie monster catching games are so much better than Pokemon

[rapid marsh]

Doubtful, it’s been around for 27-28 years now.
It’s literally the ONLY monster catcher many have known (including myself sadly).

[small berry]

Sadly big companies like them don't die, they're absorbed

[heady light]

yeah, they fell off on gen2

[stuck crag]

There's this one game I used to play

It's called coromon

[small berry]

Nintendo dying would be Microsoft or whatever other acquisition

[stuck crag]

It's a pixel game and it was really fun

[rapid marsh]

We were betrayed when they didn’t do multi regions like Gen 2.

[stuck crag]

Had a gen 3 feeling to it

But enjoyed it more than emerald

So what I noticed now

Is that Nintendo can't make shit

[rapid marsh]

Absorbed and then pumped for all they’re worth. Aka hasbro pumping wizards of the coast into ruin.

[stuck crag]

They're just gonna keep on making slop games like scarlet/violet

[stuck crag]

Hasbro has ruined the reputation of so many franchises

[heady light]

we where betrayed when they split of chansey/clafairy et al from normal

they just wierd little guys, they should be in normal with all the other weird little guys

and why do we need steel? we have rock and ground already

and dark? you need more emo than ghost and poison?

[rapid marsh]

Even if A-Z turns out to be “good” I won’t touch it. The games no longer have a soul.
The last Pokémon game that I felt had some soul, was X&Y, but that was barely noticeable.
It had clothing and style options though, which was cool. Then they confiscated that…..

[glad needle]

I never did like the Dark type pals either

[safe tendon]

Hey Hasbro had their golden goose

[stuck crag]

Arceus was nice but I doubt ZA is gonna be as good as arceus

[rapid marsh]

I don’t mind the typings, it’s more the….. prolific unholy increase of Pokédex numbers…..

[rapid marsh]

Yeah, and they’re killing it for the eggs

[stuck crag]

There's like 12 hundred Pokemon now right?

[rapid marsh]

900-1000 yeah.

[heady light]

yeah, there are 151 pokemon, the rest are basically just digimon

and even then i claim missinno and 'm, not mr mime and jinx

[safe tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-mlp-excited-smile-happy-gif-8957166

[glad needle]

Wasn’t the anime’s whole plot based around having animals fight one another on national television?

[rapid marsh]

I’m a commander player, and even I’m thinking “fuck, slow down the releases”.
Like, commander decks once a year was Christmas for me….. now I’m just like, well, fuck, I can’t buy everything this year so I’ll save my $$$ and buy some motorcycle parts instead.

[heady light]

idk why people forgave them for the proposed ogl changes just cause bg3 was a banger

[safe tendon]

I was saying My little pony friendship is magic was their golden goose 😁

[rapid marsh]

The lair?

I know a bunch of MLP fans went bonkers for the secret lair mtg MLP cards

[safe tendon]

Just MLP in general

[rapid marsh]

Niether. What gets me is that hasbro sacked the whole dept that worked on BG3 with Larian…..

[heady light]

4th ed was the best edition anyway

[safe tendon]

Man there is a lot of people Happ about this Pokemon sueing Palworld

[rapid marsh]

I don’t talk about that edition. Wasn’t my cuppa.
3.5 was my favourite

[rapid marsh]

It’s because they need something to be gleeful over seeing as Pokémon’s churned out trash the last few years

[heady light]

3.5 was still to adnd for me, like having different ac for standing and prone etc just means a bunch more rules lookups

and like the grapple rules where confusing

[rapid marsh]

It was munchkin central is what it was

[safe tendon]

Jesus...are they REALLY that upset about Palworlds success?

[heady light]

4th ed was fun, but wasnt for the theater of the mind people

[rapid marsh]

Rogue/ shadow dancer/ dervish = shadow step inside a dragons throat and full attack action with two weapon fighting for auto sneak attacks and easy crits on flat AC

[heady light]

i am aphantastic so need some kind of map of the battlefield anyway tho, so suits me lmao

[glad needle]

When something is “too big to fail” they stop caring about what made them great in the first place.

[rapid marsh]

Yep. Think about it.
We got an open world game that’s larger than what Pokémon gave people in S&S/ S&V

For half the price

With more attention to the players.

And of course, the anthro bait.

[deft ibex]

👀

[rapid marsh]

Agreed.

[glad needle]

I never could get into Pokemon, but immediately got hooked on Palworld on sight when I first played in February

[rapid marsh]

Also been a while since I saw you last in chat overprotector

[glad needle]

Have we met on another server?

[rapid marsh]

Been keeping well?

[rapid marsh]

I’ve seen you a few times in here

[glad needle]

Oh ok

Well, I’ve certainly been active

[rapid marsh]

I’m not that much of a weirdo, jeez, I just remember names of people who actually make their name stick.

[glad needle]

Never called you a weirdo

I simply thought we met elsewhere

[rapid marsh]

I know, just clarifying i don’t follow people from server to server 😆

[glad needle]

And I try to make my name stick

[rapid marsh]

And there’s a few of those about 😆

[glad needle]

It’s the most fitting name I could think of

[safe tendon]

Regardless this is going to have a negative impact on Nintendo and Pokemon in general wether then won or lose

[rapid marsh]

On this, I can 100% say that’s sorta like my housemate. She’s into Pokémon, doesn’t like survival games, but full on into palworld.

Yeah, can agree there Kat, they’ve lost a fair bit of good will and patience

[safe tendon]

Time will tell but I hope Pokemon loses

[glad needle]

Pokemon is too much for little children

[rapid marsh]

I recall them saying that they’d be “growing alongside” the fan base.
They certainly haven’t been. They stopped growing with us at about Gen 4-5

Then they regressed.

[glad needle]

Pocketpair got me with the Lamball cooking video 🤣

[rapid marsh]

They got me with the Xbox trailer.

I saw that, and went- I want this. This is what I’ve been missing.

The game we never asked for, but received and it was godly.

[safe tendon]

I'm going to keep up to date with the lawsuit

[rapid marsh]

(That and lovander being 69 cracked me up).

[glad needle]

I always found it ridiculous that eating Pokemon was so frowned upon-what other meat is available in that world? Palworld just cut the bullshit

[rapid marsh]

I mean, Krabby soup sounds delish.

[safe tendon]

I'm not afraid to admit that Lovander is attractive

[glad needle]

I exterminate them in my server

[rapid marsh]

I don’t disagree. If I had a Lovander hug pillow, my housemate would nab it.

That said, if I had a Chillet plush, she’d nab that too.

[safe tendon]

Pokemon creates Lopunny and Salazzle: Surprised 😮
Palworld creates Lovander and Lunaris: Have fun players

[glad needle]

Wait, Lunaris isn’t a horny pal

[rapid marsh]

Heh.
Don’t forget Katress and wixen

[safe tendon]

Them too

[glad needle]

Those arent horny either

[rapid marsh]

Well, actually, 75% of the damn paldex 😆

[safe tendon]

Thier attractive appearance

[glad needle]

I thought Lovander was the only really lusty pal

[rapid marsh]

Maybe 100% if you go for the whole kaboodle

[rapid marsh]

Re read lunaris entry.

You her slave. She dominatrix bud.

[safe tendon]

Yeah Lunaris may look nice but uh yeah 😆

[glad needle]

That doesn’t mean she uses you for sex

Lovander though, everything about it tells you it’s the rapist of the islands

[safe tendon]

She likes to dominate and control

I wouldn't really trust a Lunaris

[night plume]

Lunaris and I don't get along >.>
No matter what, it refuses to do handiwork for me

[safe tendon]

At least I'm in control with a Lovander

[rapid marsh]

Ask lovander. She got good handiwork.

[glad needle]

I’m content with Quivern cuddles, tbh

[rapid marsh]

Someone threw up a shot of a lucky male lovander. I said “smash it before it smashes you”.

Either way, it gets what it wants 😆

[safe tendon]

Until it crushes you in it's sleep

[rapid marsh]

Or you try to escape it’s cuddles

[glad needle]

Not the Alpha Quiverns

[rapid marsh]

That said- Quivern = floof cuddles on par with the sweepa

[glad needle]

That’s my actual favorite pal

[night plume]

As long as I give lovander a rock to smash on, she does all the work there is she can do o.o

She even cleans up the rock mess

[rapid marsh]

Get her to craft something, or pat her on the head.
Pay very very close attention and you’ll see it

The devs KNEW what they were doing when they made lovander

[safe tendon]

Lovander is amazing 😍

There's a reason I made mine powerful

[rapid marsh]

Lovander best lewd pal.

[glad needle]

Look at what those things drop

[safe tendon]

Mushrooms and cake

[glad needle]

Also drugs

[safe tendon]

Heh.....cake

[rapid marsh]

The cake 😆

[glad needle]

Suspicious juice, strange juice, and memory wiping medicine

[safe tendon]

Still worth it

[rapid marsh]

Smash before lovander gets to.
Safer.

[glad needle]

And it’s got all the work suitabilities to tell you, they have a whole industry for making date rape drugs!

[clever thunder]

🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 Pocketpair🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕

[night plume]

And people tried to argue it was a kid's game lol

That person isn't very nice o.O

[small berry]

Palworld should embrace the 18+ innuendo

maybe I'm wrong

at least when it comes to violence

[safe tendon]

They look like a troll

[rapid marsh]

Just a drooling poketwerp. They jumped in, then they jumped out. Usual tactic from the ones with no balls

[night plume]

That response was to the in game "medicines" :p

The one below was for the troll xD

[rapid marsh]

There’s some good folk in the Pokémon community, and then there’s the shitty INCELs.

[night plume]

When someone joins a server to be an ass then jumps out, I picture them walking around a room literally flexing in a mirror and congratulating themself bc they think they did something epic and worthwhile

[safe tendon]

They definitely are that Lovander animation shows 😆

[uneven scarab]

I would like to send all my energy to PocketPair developpers and team. We must help. Fighting !

https://tenor.com/view/2869993-hail-gif-12594371

[night plume]

I was thinking of proposing an ,"it's 5 o'clock somewhere" best wishes thing :p

At 5 send best wishes and that we're rooting for them and everyone joins in bc it is 5 o'clock somewhere.

[safe tendon]

We definitely should!

[rapid marsh]

Yup. Crafting and head pats- she be flaunting

[humble parrot]

Morning

[north thicket]

Morning Azz

[humble parrot]

Hi Archi

[north thicket]

how was your sleep Azz?

[safe tendon]

Don't forget about the animation on their YouTube

[humble parrot]

It was good

[grand falcon]

If you don't like pocketpair, then leave? Literally no one will notice that your gone

[night plume]

You're right, you didn't notice they were gone :p

[grand falcon]

Oh he already left? 🤣

I called that shit miles away

Damn that means I was to late

I wanted to instigate a little 😔

[rapid marsh]

This 100%

[north thicket]

that's nice, mine was good too, gotta get out of bed soon because i'm still working on a piece of art which will be posted in #fan-art-ファンアート soon

[humble parrot]

Looking forward to it

[north thicket]

hehe, but it won't be as good as Caos' or Enryou's Drawings tho its been a few years since i've drawn something and its the first time i do something in color

[humble parrot]

Certainly better than anything i can draw

[north thicket]

we'll see about thats
but at least i don't have this little voice in my head telling me to scrap the whole thing because it looks ugly

[queen vale]

How about we start doing Fanart of pals going to lawschool to prepare for the legal battle?

Let's take the absolute piss out of Nintendo's lawsuit via the Pals learning law, make it a whole story 😄

[north thicket]

that's definitely an interesting idea

[grand falcon]

Pov lovander finds out raping other animals and people is bad

[queen vale]

It can start with the Player character doing usual day to day catching, ect, and then going back to their base, to find a note stuck on their door from "Nahtender" about how they are infringing on things, giving no further details, and summoning the player to court

Turns out Nahtender is an entity who lives nearby, and is acting like a creepy, annoying neighbour

(Name is a work in progress of course)

[grand falcon]

I would say change "nah" to "nuh"

"Nuhtender"

Sounds closer to nintendo

[queen vale]

I think not being as close is more important, mocking the "Legally distinct pokemon" argument people keep using

[grand falcon]

Well

If you make a name that sounds really similar to another word, but it's spelt completely different

Then it would fall in that exact same legal loop hole

[queen vale]

That's part of the point

[rapid marsh]

I still vote for lovander disguised as a Katress.

That’s not a Katress you’re mooching. Lovander sneak attack.

[grand falcon]

That would be episode 2

"Identify theft"

[queen vale]

u n l e a s h t h e a r t i s t s

[fervent dove]

So.... any thoughts about the lawsuit?

[rapid marsh]

Then you can have a wixen disguised as, well, something. Just some fun ideas for Halloween.

[rapid marsh]

Go to general for that please.

We’ve had it spammed non stop for the last 16 hours….

[grand falcon]

It would be an entire series of loverander and it's antics, and learning they are illegal

And at the end of the series, loverander becomes a lawyer