off-topic

[humble parrot]

Yikes, that price

[tranquil obsidian]

it depends, as i said before, who the "exclusive" is with. if twitch paid for exclusivity, it breaks that contract

if there was no agreement and pocketpair arbitrarily decided to make it exclusive they can change their mind

[humble parrot]

🤔

But Xbox can't even get the skin

[tranquil obsidian]

not twitch's problem

[humble parrot]

Are you arguing that xbox should not get the skins so it remains exclusive

[tranquil obsidian]

i don't like the idea of it being exclusive at all

[night plume]

My original post was that I didn't mind people modding in exclusives so they had it

[tranquil obsidian]

I'm highlighting that depending on who the deal was actually with can change how they can proceed

[humble parrot]

Is there even a deal

[tranquil obsidian]

we don't know, they just said "exclusive"

[grand falcon]

All you did was open a tab and let it play in the background

It ain't like you did work to do it or anything

[full mountain]

Hmm?

[humble parrot]

🤔

[full mountain]

Whatta we talking about here, the ps5 pro or palworld skins?

[teal iron]

both simultaneously

[grand falcon]

The palworld twitch skins

[teal iron]

parallel minds level 1

[small berry]

It's a completely different way of dealing with the dynamic, "adding 2kb of unnecessary code promising extra super duper that this skin wont be made available for free" is essentially looking at one of the things that doing things this way tackles and avoiding the reality that it's just "one thing" of the many that it would change

[full mountain]

Mmmmm

Wait are you trying to say to turn pal skins into NFTs?

[snow thistle]

Palworld community moment

[full mountain]

[teal iron]

The only way the skin storage tables could be more efficient right now is if they didn't use a redundant data asset and 3 separate datatables
Why on earth would we add more parameters to them

[small berry]

People don't like NFTs, don't make NFTs

[full mountain]

Yee NFTs stinky

[grand falcon]

No people are mad about the skins becoming more accessible through in game stuff

[small berry]

people complain when a game goes offline everything goes offline with it, but they still don't like NFTs

[tranquil obsidian]

you're in this too

[teal iron]

I have the project OPEN RIGHT NOW
I'm LOOKING at the SKINS

I need to close it tbh
If i have to look at the unreal editor logo again I might punch someone

[peak folio]

Nah, not enough waifus involved

[full mountain]

Tell that to holders of the crypto racing project

[tranquil obsidian]

We've gone from people being mad about twitch drops getting exclusive to people getting bad at twitch drops being made not exclusive

[hearty sonnet]

Gross, I forgot NFTs existed until now

[full mountain]

Project shut down years ago yet people still have their car PNGs to Frick all with

[teal iron]

[FAILED] NFTs don't stop a server shutdown from invalidating all items earned in-game

[humble parrot]

I've been beating dough this morning, I have no idea where this started or where it's going

[small berry]

I've never heard of it, the only NFTs I own are NBA topshots

[teal iron]

If the NFTs are only used as in-game items, they lose all value as soon as the game stops existing

[humble parrot]

I see no issue with the skins, If you're on steam, get the mod if you don't like twitch.

If you're on xbox, wait until they are available

[teal iron]

The difference is that with NFTs the lost data isn't deleted but instead contributes to a growing garbage pile that the crypto community continues to deny the problematic existence of

[full mountain]

It was a project that was shutdown and now it's NFTs are all worthless, isywhat you need to know. NFTs are far from a solution to game preservation

[small berry]

You said that, and then refuted what you said, idk mahn, hard to keep up a convo with you

[teal iron]

How big is the blockchain now?
How many of those NFTs are useless, worthless, junk?

[small berry]

They are one avenue to add persistence to whatever items the users deem fit to have that persistence

[full mountain]

Oh are they planning on making the skins available through other means?

[full mountain]

Literally what do you mean

[humble parrot]

For xbox, yes

[full mountain]

I'm beginning to think your diamond stuffed dollar sign glasses are getting in the way of your perception

[tranquil obsidian]

it's in community announcements, but it's quite vague

[small berry]

I know nothing about the project you speak of, but I know what NFTs can be used for

[humble parrot]

It pings the xbox role man

[full mountain]

Cooool, that's awesome, I like dat

[humble parrot]

It's for xbox.

[full mountain]

I also know what NFTs can be used for, and I dun like it

It's scummy and just so easily prone to manipulation

[snow thistle]

It’s not really vague at all. It’s pretty clear what we intend to do.

[full mountain]

Yeeee

[snow thistle]

I think some of you have just woken up and chose violence today.

This is a very “guh” argument

[small berry]

There have been projects that have ended badly, some have been a scam, some are viable and functional products

[full mountain]

Yeah idk why people are taking issue with making skins available to jroe peeps

[snow thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[teal iron]

I mean that IS the premise of palworld

[small berry]

saying it's all scummy and all prone to manipulation is simply false

[teal iron]

Your character wakes up and immediately starts punching sheep

[full mountain]

They're just skins

There's not real reason to make em so exclusive

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/psp1g-what-gif-23713811

OW MY CAT JUTS BIT ME

[peak folio]

How about Palworld skins for the PS5 itself?

[tranquil obsidian]

limited edition palworld ps5 pro

[peak folio]

Even better

[tranquil obsidian]

cattiva in astro bot

[peak folio]

Worthy of the ridiculous price in yen

[humble parrot]

What did you to it

[teal iron]

she's a gluttonous beast who thinks she deserves food RIGHT NOW and not when the automatic feeder ticks its timer over

[full mountain]

At any time, ANY, a project can just decide to take and pull the rug out from beneath your feet. It is among the stupidist fucking """investments""" you could make, you're better off buying Intel stock at that point

[small berry]

That logic, if you just pause for a second and think about it, is nonsense

[teal iron]

Carby you probably shouldn't pursue this line of argument further

[humble parrot]

My cat just has food in his bowl all the time and goes to eat whenever he's hungry

[hearty sonnet]

A big thick Lamball PS5 skin made of real wool, and covers all the vents 👌

[teal iron]

I think you'll find yourself running in circles

[peak folio]

You’re hired!

[full mountain]

You look like non-sense, oooohhhhhh gottem

High five, @teal iron

[rough fractal]

I'm doing donuts but I can't find one

Where the donuts

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-pikachu-hi-five-high-gif-22143193

[small berry]

One way people have conversations is asking what people mean or inquiring further about the things you might not know about something, what exactly do you disagree with?

That scammers exist and you should use your money in non-scams? like maybe a company with actual employees that pays its taxes and whatnot

that's obvious

[full mountain]

I just don't like the concept of NFTs, and how they creep into my hobbies and tend to ruin anything they touch. They have no practical utility in my mind and are just a late stage capitalist play thing. I hate em

[small berry]

then again there's Star Citizen I guess they have NFT blood in their system

[rough fractal]

NFTs are still a thing?

[hearty sonnet]

I used to have this super toxic friend who was a hardcore crypto bro, and he tried roping me into drawing NFTs

[small berry]

I guess every steam early access has a bit of NFT in them

[small berry]

it's a cool tech, people will keep trying to push it when people complain about things they would fix if applied properly

[quartz magnet]

not palworld, thankfully

[full mountain]

Star citizen is also on my shit list, so, lmao

[rough fractal]

NFT I saw them as just a picture a digital picture you lost when the power went out idk man

[small berry]

You mean to say all Kickstarters are a scam and prone to manipulation then?

[peak folio]

Just hate everything, that’s the easy thing to do.

[full mountain]

Yes. I do

🗿

[grand falcon]

@hearty sonnet hay nerd

Do you know alot about PCs?

[small berry]

At least there's consistency there

[hearty sonnet]

Not really

[grand falcon]

You have been demoted from nerd, to geek

[hearty sonnet]

I'm happy being a geek lol

[grand falcon]

Lmao

[rough fractal]

I think the hate for NFTs are bigger then the scams that love em

[teal iron]

🤝

[small berry]

I think at least at one point it has been like that

if it's not like that right now still

[rough fractal]

Agreed

[small berry]

And who do we have to blame for that?

Big triple A companies

Don't hate the tech, hate the developer

[rough fractal]

I Blame the 900 fake artist in my Twitter DMs

[peak folio]

https://tenor.com/view/nft-nfts-crypto-mint-bayc-gif-24313265

[small berry]

fake AI artists?

[full mountain]

Oh I will hate the tech, with pleasure

[rough fractal]

Ye

[tranquil obsidian]

Palworld NFTs? yikes

[quartz magnet]

nah. i blame the people that support scammy tech

[small berry]

I don't see right now what "thing" in Palworld would be actually useful as an NFT

[rough fractal]

Buckys pfp haha xD

[small berry]

the only thing I can think of is a VIP pass for insider community things, and you get the VIP pass as an NFT

[rough fractal]

Now now don't go getting ideas

[hearty sonnet]

No
F******
Thanks

[small berry]

We haven't really solved the issue of scalping and whatnot with these things, if we manage to sell Concert tickets fairly I guess NFTs will have more potential

[quartz magnet]

hope they dont fall for NFT shit i dont think they are dumb to even considere it

[humble parrot]

Sorry, I had already gone off to bed...uh...

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-arrowhead-game-studios-sony-interactive-entertainment-playstation-elite-forces-gif-8626692236541807502

WHERE IS MY GIF

[humble parrot]

Embed fail!

[full mountain]

Embed fail

[hearty sonnet]

😂

[teal iron]

Bucky turned off the gifs, bullying!

[heady light]

theres never anything that would be actually useful as an nft, thats not the point in nfts, the point is to sucker people into buying them so the people can cash out their crypto

[rough fractal]

If I could make my phone disappear I would personally if I could is the phrase

[grand falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181897598395748362/1283070516844036127/IMG20240909181258.jpg?ex=66e1a809&is=66e05689&hm=957d1da5eb4748e3666410bf9d46892564ef1c712f1e461e929298300f4b87cf&

Good or bad?

[small berry]

https://nbatopshot.com/

[grand falcon]

You can, it's called throwing an object

[teal iron]

let me try again

[rough fractal]

I forgot I could do that!

[small berry]

Officially Licensed Digital Collectibles

[rough fractal]

Yeet

[small berry]

They also use those NFTs to play Fantasy Basketball

[boreal falcon]

First blush, doesnt look too bad

need to sanity check myself on a couple parts but 2tb NVMe drive and 32GB is pretty good

Assuming use case is gaming?

[full mountain]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/apndroOMV4kAAAAd/queens-of-the-stone-age-red.gif

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-super-earth-headbump-gif-12660803786990557505

[small berry]

And participation for their VIP passes

and other NBA prizes

[heady light]

and thats better than a tradition database based lootboxes or physical cards somehow?

[night plume]

If I found a Bucky coin in game, I would mount it.

[grand falcon]

Ya for gaming

[full mountain]

Oh, guess tenor gigs really did get rekt

[small berry]

Why are you questioning a functional product by the NBA?

But I can go down to the answers if you want to

[rough fractal]

I have 6k worth of baseball cards I constantly set a blaze as tinder for a bonfire

[heady light]

because making it crypto is just making it worse than using a traditional database

[grand falcon]

My main hope is for it to be able to run "ASA"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859276407397285949/1283096156796092478/Screenshot_2024-09-09-07-28-18-15_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=66e1bfea&is=66e06e6a&hm=6ac62bdf6478618a5574123083ec3493828195a2c97d268a792622ecb28e70fd&

[full mountain]

Just because it's functional doesn't mean it's an efficient way to do said purpose

[small berry]

You're increasing the value of every other card holder, cheers to you bruh, people do that as charity

[heady light]

just because something technically works doesnt mean its an improvement

[quartz magnet]

dont question. just buy it bro it will worth 1000x the price years later

[boreal falcon]

Oh yeah you'll be fine!

[small berry]

You guys want me to write down the pros and cons?

[quartz magnet]

no

[rough fractal]

I don't wanna know now xD

[small berry]

Then why are you asking

[quartz magnet]

im not

[rough fractal]

Iikewise xD

[small berry]

Awkay, thought differently reading those replies

[quartz magnet]

if i wanted to know, id google myself, not expect a crypto user to explaim

[grand falcon]

Good 😁

I gotta go pick up the PC in about 3 hours

[small berry]

You were wondering if the NBA were crazy, you don't need an answer

[full mountain]

What is the purpose of making you own own a jpeg of an athlete to join the vip club when they can just, idk, make you pay for a vip club through literally any other fucking means?

You're really on the way to fucking riches, aren't ya?

[small berry]

This goes into the interoperable ecosystem you enable making all these things digitally, you can track ownership, participation, you can cross reference

[rough fractal]

I'm broker then a shattered mirror

[heady light]

this plus, what is the benefit of ot being hosted as an nft over using a traditional database

[grand falcon]

I'm not real educated on PCs, so can you explain in dumb people words, how much of an upgrade

Is the new PC to my current laptop?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859276407397285949/1283096136508510259/image-2.png?ex=66e1bfe5&is=66e06e65&hm=9b367eb978e893054a5a2b6d08365ef8990a6f77389ebf5fa0a4e14c1e4ea898&

[full mountain]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iNuRn3OKHkw?

[small berry]

So they can intergrate their VIP into their Fantasy basketball and their collectibles

they've "modernized" their customer retention integrating all of these products they have into it

[full mountain]

And you can't do this with a SQL database with keys tied to an email address... Why?

[boreal falcon]

Confession I am a little out of it Especially for AMD products but RAM is equivalent to what you got

[small berry]

Apparently if the NBA and many smarter than me people argue correctly, it's a matter of technical knowhow, and no, it's not better

[grand falcon]

Is 32 ram good?

[full mountain]

If it's not better, why do it? It's obviously just a last minute cash grab on a dying fad

[heady light]

they are jumping on a trend, not "modernising"

[peak folio]

That display probably doesn’t need an upgraded system.

[small berry]

You are speaking with absolute terms that would imply you have a deep knowledge about the technology and its application

Which I highly doubt anyone in here does

[boreal falcon]

For most people 32 GB is good

Graphics card does appear to be an upgrade per my google fu

[small berry]

But you are speaking like that for a reason, think about what reason that is

[boreal falcon]

(I'd consider an upgrade if you were say...in media production, but for gaming you should be fine)

[full mountain]

My degree is literally in computer science, ya idjit

[small berry]

I'm gonna walk out of here, apologize to the public and have a great day everyone

[peak folio]

[grand falcon]

I mean since it's a desktop, I can always upgrade it later on right?

[full mountain]

Cya, wouldn't wanna be ya

[boreal falcon]

Yeah provided you got the ports for it in your mobo

[peak folio]

Violence milk in the cereal this morning.

[quartz magnet]

[grand falcon]

Mobo? What's that

[boreal falcon]

Motherboard, the big computer chip that all your other components connect to

[heady light]

this is why i like asking every crypto bro i meet why their tech is better than a traditional database

[quartz magnet]

not sure if i prefer that or Troll-Flakes with Clown Milk

[small berry]

cause people start insulting them when they try to explain?

[hearty sonnet]

I had two bowls of Sugar Crisp cuz I'm a mf adult

[peak folio]

Not so trollish really, just war

[full mountain]

I'll admit, my original use of "fucking dumbass" was way outta line and over the top. That's on me, sorry @small berry

[full mountain]

We'll just have to agree to disagree, bro. I find web3 to be a complete farce while you don't, simple as

[heady light]

no, because ive never been given an example of why any blockchain tech is an improvement, and they either claim its too big brain and i wouldnt understand, or give up and say they are leaving

[grand falcon]

Oh, ya I suck with abbreviations

You wouldn't believe how long it took me to learn what "lmao" meant 🤣

[small berry]

the reality is you don't want answers

[quartz magnet]

some people cant hold a point without going to insult

[small berry]

you want a hate train

[boreal falcon]

All good 😄

[small berry]

everysingle time crypto is mentioned and I intervene I've been thrown insults, just ponder about that

[grand falcon]

Is it possible to upgrade a motherboard?

[small berry]

there's always someone that ends up throwing a bad word that could get them banned

[heady light]

no, i would love to find a reason why so many people are excited about it, havent gotten one yet tho

[boreal falcon]

Yeah though its basically building a new PC, but if it has the slots you can reuse components

[grand falcon]

Well, I have no idea how to put together a PC or anything

So if/when I decide to get upgrades

I'll probably ask the people who I bought it from if they do upgrades or anything

[full mountain]

Crypto and web3 is just Hella dumb, my guy, it hurts me to see you not see that and continue to fall for such follies. I'm passionate because I've talked to you before, and you deserve waaay better than to get caught up in crypto crap!

[quartz magnet]

nah.
ya post about it a lot here. showing sharts. telling how strock prices are going down and such.. and people ignore it. cause they dont want anything with it. But people dont want it to go in the stuff they enjoy, like palworld in this case
Like, ya can put in your plate and eat anything ya want, but the moment ya try to put in others plate, yeah, ya cant expect others to be hapyp about it

[full mountain]

Mhmm

[drifting ermine]

Crypto has made my life infinetly better. But besides that encrypted currency is eventual in a technological society.

[small berry]

nobody did that

[teal iron]

Basically

[boreal falcon]

Makes sense! Its actually not terribly hard (just need a screwdriver and thermal paste for the CPU) but its mostly slotting in chips like legos and connecting wires

But no shame in going prebuilt if thats what works for you! (and have someone else handle it)

[teal iron]

Oh no not another one

[hearty sonnet]

I love how there's tech support & a crypto war going on at the same time lol

Keep it civil tho peeps

[drifting ermine]

Getting mad about it is like getting mad about AI. it's not going away so you're setting yourself up for a bad time if you want to just let it upset you

[grand falcon]

The place I went to, was so sketchy

Because it was a computer shop, but didn't look like one, and it was behind another building

And so, I was completely lost because it didn't even look like a PC shop, but I called them, figured out it was the right place, went in, and there's like packages and stuff EVERYWHERE

Like you can hardly walk in, but the people that did work there, seen to know there stuff, because this dude had his own personal hand built PC and it looked really cool, he said it was around $6k because he had to have some parts custom made, for them to fit

[teal iron]

Well I guess technically I could deal with up to 6, in theory

[full mountain]

The civil protector from Shadows of Evil

[heady light]

traditional banking uses encryption already

[full mountain]

Omg he's double dipping, I'm weak bruh

[boreal falcon]

I kind of miss fourms for keeping subjects like that seperate : 😅

[teal iron]

but I'd have to unsheathe my other 4 bonding points by removing the chillet avatar

[grand falcon]

Nah it's not a pre built, it's hand made by the people, like they have the parts and stuff there, and build the computers order by order

[boreal falcon]

Ah!

[full terrace]

I'm extremely civil. No need to worry about me

[boreal falcon]

Still pont stands, no shame in letting an expert handle it if you arent sure!

[teal iron]

PLEASE tell me someone gets this

[full mountain]

Ohhhh I get it, heheh

[teal iron]

Funny you say that...

[hearty sonnet]

I believe you

[teal iron]

[full terrace]

Whew, now I can go start a riot unimpeded 😂

[teal iron]

-# Shell is worried about me specifically when they say to be civil

[drifting ermine]

I trust certain crypto chains more than the banks that were bailed out during the housing crisis 🤷‍♂️

[grand falcon]

On the plus side

I got a free 2 year warranty on it as well

[heady light]

ai is getting pushed because, like all automation, it replaces manhours and reduces costs
blockchain on the other hand is less secure, less private, less efficient, and slower than what it is trying to replace

[full terrace]

It's always the cute ones that are the most uncivilized

[drifting ermine]

side not: anyone who trusts their finances to man named "Bankman" had it coming

[boreal falcon]

Nice!

[full mountain]

At least they get bailed out, if a crypto falls you're beyond fucked

[small berry]

Who told you this?

[teal iron]

Me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902955787805163594/1280564475031847083/light-green-deer.gif

[full mountain]

Considering most "decentralized" systems rely on the centralized authority

[drifting ermine]

it's not wise to have all your assets in one place anyway

[hearty sonnet]

I gotta go AFK soon for a little while & I'd hate for a flame war to start up lol (also no, I'm not targeting you haha)

[teal iron]

The pentagon found that the blockchain is not decentralized at all

[full mountain]

Shokonoko nokonoko koshingtan

[frozen bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-demoman-it-was-me-the-heavy-is-dead-drink-gif-14132614944523518211

[heady light]

me looking into the technicality of how blockchain worked when i was going to set up a farm before the pandemic

[teal iron]

Certain actors can with a little effort exercise strong centralized control over the system, and they have

[drifting ermine]

if someone insults me I'll just leave, it's not important for me to convince anyone. Just giving my opinions

[teal iron]

Ethereum classic stands in defiance of your cries of the system being a fair one enforced by code

[quartz magnet]

yeah, tenor isnt feelign good rn

[frozen bluff]

(I don't know what the subject is but I just felt like making the joke)

[small berry]

You are aware that saying blockhain is slower and less secure is an oxymoron

[hearty sonnet]

Winning answer

[full mountain]

https://youtu.be/CjvK6uwv9bI?

[frozen bluff]

NOOO MY JOKE

I wanted to be funi

[drifting ermine]

I also used to hate and not understand crypto until I met some smart people who are actually pretty happy with their lives

[hearty sonnet]

WOW another embed fail.
It's starting everyone, the apocalypse is almost here

[full terrace]

I wanted to send you a meme that made me think of you but I can't find it in the ocean of trash in my meme box

[full mountain]

You look like an insult

Gottem

[teal iron]

love this

[heady light]

traditional daterbases are super efficient on power, and run a lot faster than even proof of stake

[drifting ermine]

What does that even mean?

[teal iron]

(I don't think it means anything)

[full mountain]

... Idk

[small berry]

You are avoiding what I said

[frozen bluff]

The real insults were the friends we made along the way

[teal iron]

(Carby is just being a silly little guy)

[full terrace]

About time smh

[drifting ermine]

wait, traditional databases are more efficient?

[full mountain]

Depresso Gaming

[teal iron]

...yeah?

[drifting ermine]

Google's data centers use more power than all others on Earth

[full mountain]

Yea

[teal iron]

Because they handle like all the data on earth.

[full mountain]

Because they run like half the fuggin internet, my guy

[quartz magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1216142638906998804/1231937582435274853/6P4G4_O1GI095KVU3C9.gif

[full terrace]

Reminds me of me. I'm stealing that

[frozen bluff]

Anyway, off to lunch I go

[drifting ermine]

You can't really criticize crypto for power usage if you have a YouTube account or Facebook or anything like that

[teal iron]

Yes the city of new york uses more electricity than a steel mill but the city of new york contains several million people

[peak folio]

Oh yeah it’s nearing lunch time.

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/psp1g-what-gif-23713811

[full terrace]

No, don't leave me 😭

[hearty sonnet]

Incredibly legendary GIF pull

[quartz magnet]

[quartz magnet]

glad it embeded

[teal iron]

hate it here

[hearty sonnet]

I could honestly watch that GIF all day

[humble parrot]

🤔

[frozen bluff]

I have to, am busy at work 😂

[drifting ermine]

I have to go now, but let me say something. Don't trust any crypt "influencers", they're all scumbags.

[teal iron]

I can't even explain to this guy why his logic is horrendously flawed

[full mountain]

Yeah I can

[drifting ermine]

talk to normal people like @small berry

[teal iron]

because the API on either tenor or discord is shatting itself rn

[full mountain]

You could but then shell is gonna be mad

[teal iron]

Got it don't listen to anyone who likes crypto

[heady light]

as for security, modern encryption makes a well set up database a lot more secure than a system that isnt centrally controlled

[drifting ermine]

they're like an actual human and their anecdotes will be more valuable than opinions that are paid for, such as influencers and journalists

For real, talk to people whenever you can. From all over the world

Don't get too much info from memes, that can be bad sometimes

[full terrace]

Id rather just talk to people I know irl. But I'm stuck with y'all

[grand falcon]

I honestly don't get why people get upset about all that AI and crypto stuff and what not

No one is forcing them to partake in it, if you don't partake in it, then it doesn't affect you

Like McDonald's is bad for you, but no one forces you to go get a double stack cheese burger or whatever

[teal iron]

The "hacking" that crypto people insist plagues modern banking simply isn't true, and the "fraudulent" bailouts are present in crypto too

[full terrace]

Maybe I'm not forced but my McDonald's app makes me feel a lotta pressure

[drifting ermine]

I think a more fair comparison would be people at McDonalds worried about losing their job to AI. That's the big gripe with most Artists, not all

[teal iron]

SOmeone bypassed all the rules on the Ethereum blockchain to rewind a few transactions they didn't like

[hearty sonnet]

Damn McDonalds sounds good rn, I haven't had fast food in so long

[teal iron]

Suspiciously similar to a central government reversing loss of money that they don't like

[full mountain]

https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/

[bitter rover]

its not... nor is it the same as when you last had it

except for maybe mcnuggets

[full terrace]

I ate so many nuggets yesterday 😣

[grand falcon]

AI uses stuff that's already created, to make something new

Meaning it can't create something 100% unique, unlike humans, we have actual brains and can be unique(but some don't wanna be unique, and just wanna copy/mimic others)

[teal iron]

Crypto was never made to solve anything, it was made by the 5% elite to get a leg up on the 1% super elite

[hearty sonnet]

Yeah fast food is pretty disappointing every time I have it NGL

[small berry]

You know people that do this are "cryptobros"

[quartz magnet]

Heres my unpaid opinion:
Palworld is doing pretty good and dont need any kind of NFT or blockchain in it. I believe companies and other weirdos already abused and scammed enough people with the system and wanting add something into yout game after all this shit storm, even if ya have the greatest of the intentions, would just be shoot on the feet, push people alway and attrack scammers and bots

[hearty sonnet]

Nuggernaught

[full mountain]

Molly white?

[small berry]

Transparency and reliability is the first thing crypto bros want

[grand falcon]

I just had McDonald's for lunch 😂

Had 20 nuggets and 2 fries

[heady light]

plus, while blockchains are sudo-anonymous, them being public means that its relatively easy to de-anonymise any user

[hearty sonnet]

🤤

I want it

[small berry]

idk this one in particular but there's many cryptobros that constantly point out to these things, from the struggle comes improvement

[teal iron]

Yeah if someone guys steals all your money from the bank we can track him down and make him pay
if that happens on the blockchain then I'm sorry for your loss you should've invested better lmao lol gg ez gottem

[small berry]

The main lobbyists right now in government for crypto regulation are crypto bros

[teal iron]

Crypto people talk about how the "banking" screws people over

but when people get screwed over in crypto "they had it coming"

[drifting ermine]

so that's a different subject. Whether or not you feel that AI Art is valid, the other issue is using it to replace artists

[full mountain]

Yeah and I respect that, I can respect peeps that want crypto to be problem free and call out rug pulls and scams... While also just not liking the tech in general

They're not mutually exclusive

[teal iron]

^

[small berry]

I agree with everything in there but the last part really confuses me, but we agree to disagree

[teal iron]

I wouldn't mind cryptocurrency as a sort of "universal" side currency, but the technology is just not good right now

[quartz magnet]

i dont think people realizes that some of those schemes arent "generating" money like a cobblestone generator in minecraft.. if youre winning money, its because someone else is losing it

[grand falcon]

I mean, modern artists, are dumb as hell, like I saw this one lady drink paint, threw it up, and said "this is art"

[full mountain]

Exactly

[small berry]

that's not technically true

[full mountain]

The people that lose see always the ones struggling, too

[teal iron]

Yeah for every person whose life is "made better" by crypto, there are hundreds of people whose lives are made worse or even ruined

[drifting ermine]

I think industries are dying for sure

And I'm kinda glad cause I independently make 3D cartoons

[small berry]

the fact that prices go up and down when people buy and sell and the dynamics that entails doesn't directly mean people are losing money

[drifting ermine]

You don't need an animation bible or nepotism to create stuff

[teal iron]

The same is true of many things in the real-money economy

[drifting ermine]

actually if I could get a VRM of a Pal I could prolly make them do some crazy stuff

[full mountain]

Ye!

[teal iron]

Like rent

most subscription services

literal wire fraud

and so on

[frozen bluff]

I remember people committing check fraud when the whole Chase situation blew up lmao

[drifting ermine]

"INFINITE MONEY GLITCH"
Bro that's just check fraud 😆

[heady light]

see, now this isnt the problem of what technology the banking system uses to store how much money everyone has, its a problem with the current economic system

[quartz magnet]

"everyone buy this, the price will go up and then we all sell for protif".. like that?
in that case, sell to who?

[small berry]

sell to people that maybe are already in profit from a position they opened years ago

and opened new ones at different prices

[teal iron]

Yeah but crypto doesn't have an elected government that sends federal agents after the perpetrators of fraud

I mean the FTC/SEC has started going after crypto frauds anyway just because they're nice but there's no rule in Crypto that says this happens

and even when the FTC sends its feds, most people are just screwed anyway

[heady light]

tell that to sam bankman fried

[drifting ermine]

The bank can freeze and seize all of you assets anywhere at anytime for any reason

[quartz magnet]

that dont make any sense

[teal iron]

And a computer virus can delete the entire blockchain at anytime

[drifting ermine]

with the press of a button. And then it would take MONTHS to undo. If you owe them money you must pay ASAP

[small berry]

The price goes down temporarily but those that bought at the top can still make money if they wait

it just doesn't work like that in reality, it only works like that if the fundamental value of the product doesn't exist or slowly degrades and prices never recover

[drifting ermine]

I think if the government could shut it down they would have by now

That's another reason to like it, if you are a country sanctioned by the US

[heady light]

and someone can just decide to fork the blockchain at any point

[icy yoke]

i love stealing money

[teal iron]

when you put money in a bank you are insured against that bank doing stupid things with your money and losing it

[drifting ermine]

You must understand that the US weaponizes the USD

We threaten countries that don't comply with "democracy" with sanctions and financial war

[teal iron]

Assuming they have the insurance which some don't but they can't hide something in the terms that says "we don't" if the front page says they do

[drifting ermine]

Its why many countries are buying bitcoin

[quartz magnet]

lets say ya buy a lot of those when they are at peak value [because ya have the money for it], and then, the value goes down like ya said
how would ya even recorver from that?

[small berry]

Like everyone always has done, to be fair

[teal iron]

And crypto people turn a blind eye to rampant fraud on their currency

[drifting ermine]

Bitcoin is backed by computers. The USD hasn't been backed by anything for decades

[teal iron]

The bitcoin is used to hide people from consequences of their crimes

[drifting ermine]

The US even made owning gold illegal at one point in time

[small berry]

The logic is that if you don't sell and price recovers, you'd go back in the positive

[frozen bluff]

When cash app went through its whole situation too, that's what ended up happening. Buncha people got themselves into hella debt because they thought money was free 😂

[small berry]

ofc that doesn't work with scams that never go back up

[drifting ermine]

those apps should be illegal

[teal iron]

A machine does as it is told
Backing by computers means backing by nothing

[drifting ermine]

It's backed by math

[frozen bluff]

Maybe not illegal, but definitely better managed

[small berry]

how prices work, how they're discovered, maintained, it's really like an ant colony

[drifting ermine]

And everything uses computers now

[teal iron]

At any time someone can simply lie to the computer
The computer will not know better

Because it is a computer
It has no concept of law, mercy, remorse, or sympathy
It doesn't even understand reason

it is the least suitable entity to trust with enforcing any of those things

[drifting ermine]

Then why haven't you done that to get rich?

[full mountain]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/floating-point-error-in-python/

[frozen bluff]

Rich?!

[small berry]

A few crazy people need to buy the top for price discovery to happen, sometimes those crazy people lose money but they made the entire market make money when those attempts at price discovery work

[teal iron]

It can pass information and process it
It cannot be trusted to fully verify that the information and all the associated metadata is legitimate

BUt a human-run bank can at least somewhat do these things

[heady light]

because doing so with crypto requires you to already be rich

[full mountain]

Computers can be Hella dumb

[drifting ermine]

idk the bank has screwed me over pretty bad before. People don't care about stuff like that until it happens to them

[teal iron]

Just as you do not care about people being screwed over by crypto because it does not happen to you

[teal iron]

I return you to this

[drifting ermine]

There's always a risk

[quartz magnet]

so ya saying "its just works" and magically the money ya used to buy things at peak price will simple come back?
its really really hard to not see this as big scam.

theres a plan to start, get in, buy the things ya 'need'.. but in the end.. theres nothing? its a mysteri how ya get your money back OR even any kind of protif

[drifting ermine]

There is no perfect system

[full mountain]

Guh?

[small berry]

That's not what I said whatsoever

[teal iron]

Crypto is not a system of economics

[small berry]

It's a really complicated thing that involves many factors

[teal iron]

it is a weapon
Devised by the rich to strike at the ultra rich

[heady light]

bank has screwed me over before too, difference between that and crypto was atleast with the bank i had things i could do to combat it and get my money back

[quartz magnet]

How the people that buy those appes recorved the money they spent?

[teal iron]

And unsuspecting fools at the bottom are the ammunition and the target

[peak folio]

https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/cyber-attack-exposes-credit-card/

[frozen bluff]

Gold and silver have been the most stable valuable resources to humanity for thousands of years. I think that is the most perfect system we have, but everyone moved away from it like goobers

[small berry]

They're buying assets, they're not buying something they need to live

[peak folio]

[small berry]

they just need to wait if the economy they bought into is functional

[queen vale]

BURN IT ALL DOWN

[drifting ermine]

this happens all the time. Almost every US citizen got their SSN leaked recently

[queen vale]

I mean afternoon all

[peak folio]

Yeah ik

It’s so bad

[teal iron]

Yeah and with crypto you don't even have to hack anything to expose sensitive personal information

[drifting ermine]

The government hates us. And that the government hates crypto makes me think it must be good

[teal iron]

it's just right there
An honest, trusting person will just dox themselves

[heady light]

no, gold prices are kept artificially high by speculators so its difficult to use it for things its actually useful for, like electronics

[drifting ermine]

If the government outlawed Magic tomorrow, you would research that shit maaaaaaaan

[peak folio]

Your reasoning is actually not unsound.

[full mountain]

What the fuck

[drifting ermine]

"They found out it works!"

[quartz magnet]

i dont really believe that will ever happen. and the peopel that got those monkes in peak price, will never get they money back or even any kind of protif. and ya dont seen to have a way to explaim how that would even happens

[teal iron]

Like I said
the 95% are both the ammunition and the target with crypto

[full mountain]

I mean based on that the government sucks but that doesn't make crypto some magic bullet

[teal iron]

one day you're the ammo and the next you'll be the target

[queen vale]

The government does hate us. Their jobs would be so much easier without people to manage 😄

[grand falcon]

Nah there's some crazy ass laws

For example, in 1 state, you can get 10 years in prison if you hunt big foot

[teal iron]

you fool!
If there's no people to manage they wouldn't have jobs!!!

[small berry]

When it comes to those projects I guess it comes down to attention, if one day they recoup the attention of the public aka people with money, then they will go back up again

[teal iron]

It's a battle royale, they want to manage 1 person so you need to be the last person standing!

[quartz magnet]

Theres any example of that happening?

[teal iron]

And it is in my nature to win

[grand falcon]

In another state, there's a law that says "it is unlawful to give your dog a cigar"

[teal iron]

Kicks Myles off a cliff

[drifting ermine]

Ask anyone in a third world country what they think of the US government. We have a department of foreign currency control

We are quite literally financial terrorists

[small berry]

Well, crypto isn't back to all time highs so there's no reason to think that would happen since the two are inevitably directly linked

[queen vale]

Grabs your leg Guess who's coming with me 😄

[grand falcon]

In the state I live in

It's illegal to kill a fly, near a church

[heady light]

oh, just seen theres a new stellaris dlc, so while this has been fun and all im gonna have to go play that

[small berry]

Once crypto makes all time highs again, eyeballs will gravitate to that again

[teal iron]

Ask any of the millions of people who lost all their money in crypto how they feel about the blockchain

[queen vale]

I plan to fo out the same way I came in. Screaming, yelling, and covered in someone else's blood. 😄

[teal iron]

Or can I say those third world countries should've invested smarter?

[drifting ermine]

I'll be honest, I don't care. People get scammed through their greed

[night plume]

Seems there won't be a cliff hanger there.

[teal iron]

What's the difference
Lying, promising prosperity, taking away everything

[full mountain]

Again, based, but I don't get why that makes crypto some wonder drug

[frozen bluff]

Gold has a physical value and the only thing that "changes" in relation to it is the artificial currency that we have (bills), and the faith people have in said artificial currency. Gold was used as a bartering resource for a real long time for a reason. We moved away from that and assigned it an artificial value that changes. Artificial values for a physical resource are asinine.

[drifting ermine]

If something is too good to be true, it probably is

[grand falcon]

Imagine going to jail and someone asks you "so what did you do to get locked up"

And you say "I killed a house fly near a church" you'd be the laughing stock in the entire jail

[full mountain]

And there it is.

[teal iron]

They just wanted to have a decent amount of money to live their lives

[full mountain]

For the love of God watch any coffeezilla video

[drifting ermine]

No

[teal iron]

They didn't want billions of dollars, they didn't even want to be "rich" they just wanted to have money in their pocket and have financial independence

[small berry]

Since when is he against crypto?

[drifting ermine]

Virtue signaling does nothing to convince me

[small berry]

he's not against the tech, he's against the scammers that use it

[teal iron]

Says the one who keeps bringing up third world countries

[quartz magnet]

So there we have it:
-Theres no expaining how ya would get your money back or protif
-Thers no example of "come backs" that game people the money they spent
-Theres no way to give ya the security that youre not going to waste your money buying high price stocks

In conclusion: it simple sounds like a scam. and anyone that protifs from it, its just taking away money from someone else that was fool and belivied that would make protif when they missed the oportunity to sell it and was greedy instead

[grand falcon]

To bad people don't understand that

There was a trend going on recently
, called "the chase bank glitch"

And little did these idiots know, it's not a glitch, it's check fraud

And people were doing like $50k and $100k and shit

[drifting ermine]

If you fell for the FTX thing idgaf

[teal iron]

Wow

[small berry]

Those NFTs are basing their value off peoples attention, it's not really something someone can put down mathematically

[teal iron]

Some people, man

[drifting ermine]

the man's name was BANKMAN

[small berry]

Like the bananas

[frozen bluff]

Aight y'all, back to work I go. Have a good day now

[teal iron]

Just can't be reasonable

Not even the slightest shred of compassion for others

Hate to see it

[heady light]

yes it has physical value, but it is valued above that by speculative investors who are willing to pay above what it would otherwise be brought for because they think it will raise in value

[teal iron]

Anyway I'm gonna go back to modeling

I made my point
There's nothing more to say

[queen vale]

Oh that shit was hilariou, I laughed out loud so hard when I heard about it

[quartz magnet]

Theres no value in atention. just like theres no reason to do art "for exposure"
Youre wasting your time/money in something that will probably trend for a while and then never recorver

[drifting ermine]

Making Art is it's own reward XD

[small berry]

That's something people smarter than us could debate, cause apparently some people did make money off of it, it's completely speculative but it is a financial tool, like betting

[drifting ermine]

Oh this googa blocked me

lmao

[grand falcon]

Imagine commiting one of the biggest crimes you can, just because someone on tiktok said it's a glitch

[drifting ermine]

what a good person

[quartz magnet]

Thats a very good example: Betting
Youre earning money.... but where this money comes from? someone else that lost it

[small berry]

in this case, when it comes to the attention economy, I think that's correct

[quartz magnet]

like i said, isnt a scheme to generate money, its a scheme to take money from others

[queen vale]

Eeeh, attention itself fires the neurons causing the happy juice, that's the issue, people desperately chasing that happy feeling because they can't find it anywhere else

[small berry]

At least so far it's been correct with NFTs

they're not yet a long term hold

[teal iron]

I think all art should be free to use noncommercially, as a matter of course

As soon as you share it, it's shared
Barring fraudulent plagiarism, anyone can use it as they like

[frozen bluff]

Yep, that artificial value is what happened when we moved away from the gold standard. Went from what were essentially promissory notes with special seals on them (I have a few of these in my collection), to what we have today and the people who use artificial "currency" to "inflate" its value. Gold should only lose or gain value depending on whether you have it or not

[teal iron]

That is, no one can erase watermarks to claim it's their work, or make money off it

[full mountain]

He's not against crypto, just against the scams... And there's alotta em

[quartz magnet]

yup. but then something else fires this neurons, and the thing ya invested your money in loses the atention and ya lost your money.

[full mountain]

It's a widespread issue

[small berry]

One could argue the biggest NFT collections haven't been a long term hold cause of the volatility of crypto markets and if the prices would be more stable those would see their store of value proposition improved

[queen vale]

The main problem with that is unfortunatly humans are not all kind, are not all honest, so it's impossibe

[teal iron]

Making art not all free for noncommercial use doesn't change that

[drifting ermine]

what are you modeling?

[teal iron]

It is obviously important to track down and punish fraud and plagiarism

But I don't think an artist should post something online and then say "NOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS AN EMOJI ON YOUR DISCORD SERVER WITHOUT PAYING ME AN EXTRA $5!!!"

If you charge someone $5 to draw it in the first place sure

Frankly you should

[small berry]

One day the attention economy could be a long term hold, as in, what if someone owned the original rick roll or the original pepe and they would have proof of ownership and people traded those things

[queen vale]

It does when people would rip off the art and then claim it's their own for the engagement it gets, regardless of if they can make commercial gains from the art directly, the fact they are getting large numbers of eyes on their 'content' means that 'marketing executives' will pay them to shill their trash, so they get paid regardless 😦

[small berry]

for how long can the attention grabbing potential of a rick roll increase

[teal iron]

well that's fraud

[drifting ermine]

you love authority don't you?

[teal iron]

you're lying

That's not ok
It was never ok

[queen vale]

Yeah, it is, it just sucks

[teal iron]

And it happens now, it'll happen with the idea I put forth

[teal iron]

It does and I wish there was a way we could prevent it

[quartz magnet]

id not buy any of those with the false hope that "the prices will go up and ya will get big protif from selling it later".
if anyone try to sell me this, its visible just a scam

[drifting ermine]

I like how you're pretending I'm a bad person to try to invalidate anything I say

[small berry]

that's called speculation

[teal iron]

but I don't think the personal expression through art should ever be restricted to those that either know how to draw or who are willing/able to pay someone else

[small berry]

and sometimes speculation can become an investment

[queen vale]

Oh there is a way - take away people's free will 😉

[teal iron]

Art is a form of expression, and everyone should be able to express themselves freely

[quartz magnet]

and buying it is called "being the sucker that will lost money for the same of raising the price"

[small berry]

Interesting way of viewing things tbh

[teal iron]

...no it's called a bigger fool scam

my dude who are you going to sell it to for a higher price?

An idiot who thinks it'll go even higher

And who is he gonna sell it to?
An even bigger idiot

[night plume]

Running low on cough drops

[small berry]

So you think the financial world, one of the biggest human inventions is all a scam?

[teal iron]

Eventually, you run out of idiots and the last man in the line has lost everything

[queen vale]

What is it that people who get scammed get nicknamed.. Bag holders? Because they're left holding the bag

[teal iron]

Yeah

[small berry]

I don't know what you're arguing against, speculation or crypto

[quartz magnet]

i mean, ya failed to tell me HOW i would get money back after reaching the point where the prices does.
also couldnt point me any NTF that actually had a "come back".
so in the end, it didnt changed anything. all this still looks like a dirty scam to unaware people

[teal iron]

The financial world is probably a scam tbh

[small berry]

I did tell you that in the first sentence of the message I sent you

[queen vale]

Exploitation I think, neither

[teal iron]

Economics as a concept is cool but I think modern finance is probably designed in some extent to screw people over

[drifting ermine]

this sucks I'm going back to making funny cartoons

[small berry]

in fact I think both of the replies were the response explicitly

[quartz magnet]

"it will just come back over time".. naaah.. i dont think so..

[drifting ermine]

and getting paid for it 😁

[full mountain]

Who's doing that? I don't think anyone is acknowledging ya at this point

[small berry]

That's how everything works, again, we defined some things, attention economy is one of them, are you talking about that?

[queen vale]

||Just like Herpes||

[teal iron]

me?
I was making a lunaris model suitable for satisfactory to make a player swap

Imma be honest I left the app open so it probably says I've been running it for a day or something now

[full mountain]

Ayo?

[drifting ermine]

I've been blocked for having no compassion lmao

[quartz magnet]

yeah. atention worth nothing.
ya invest money on it and its bound to be lost.

[quartz magnet]

[teal iron]

Yeah it's gonna go hard

Someone else said they'd do all the work in unreal engine, I just need to prep the model in blender

Which is great, because

[queen vale]

Surely that'll be a NSFW mod then? 😄

[drifting ermine]

lets see it

[teal iron]

ahem

[small berry]

There's an argument to be made there and if you think people will be posting rick rolls in 50 years then I think you'd be wrong, but neither you or I know that yet

[teal iron]

not funny, guy

OH WAIT
I GET IT

[queen vale]

BAHAHAHA

[teal iron]

yeah I'm not giving her a hard hat

[queen vale]

Took a minute there

[unborn mauve]

do it for her

[quartz magnet]

i have like, no idea why ya think Rickroll is even relevant to NFT. unless Rick started doing those and i dont know.
But in the end of the day, none of those points ya made could show that NTF isnt just a trap and how theres no actual "come backs"... maybe ya menaged to change others minds, but mine, its still just a scam. a way to legaly take money from others misleaded by the hope of protifs

[full mountain]

If I make my own pal model mod, we should so a co-op save

[small berry]

That's why I tried to explain to you and have between us the understanding of the definition of Attention Economy which is the basis of 99% of NFTs out there

[drifting ermine]

Why do you care about other people's finances anyway? We should worry about ourselves.

It's not my fault if someone goes to the casino everyday

[small berry]

You don't understand I have to help people not make the wrong choices REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[drifting ermine]

You're cool 👍

[quartz magnet]

smartest argment in this whole conversation

[drifting ermine]

The only reason would be environmentalism

But like I said before cypto farms don't come close to the power usage of Google

Google uses more power than all other data centers on earth combined

[small berry]

Crypto farms have helped in some places going to where energy is wasted by renewable sources and used that energy for "something"

best example is China

Which is a shame when they ban it

[teal iron]

man I thought we were done with this crypto nonsense

[small berry]

Cause they have a ton of wasted renewable energy

[drifting ermine]

Yeah people don't wanna think about how actual child laborers are able to get out of their hell because of crypto

[full mountain]

[quartz magnet]

but guess which one is being pointed when people see silly skins in palworld

[small berry]

We'll see how El Salvador responds and the results in 10 years

that's the biggest "experiment" so to say

[teal iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435534360440078336/1283114873584091218/image.png?ex=66e1d158&is=66e07fd8&hm=84fae06de5fe115d544eb372a1467335b8dc61738cdaead07749472ee29ea950&

[small berry]

could change the life of an entire country

[teal iron]

I mean she has body armor so

[full mountain]

She lookin' like the letter A

[undone osprey]

A pose

[humble parrot]

(That's an actual term)

[queen vale]

Won't the ears clip with the vehicles?

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-10487976503085012594

[hearty sonnet]

Precious

[teal iron]

Like I care

[drifting ermine]

What file format are the Pals?

[queen vale]

Don't get me wrong it's impressive as fuck 😄

[drifting ermine]

how do you get them?

[quartz magnet]

Finally something i agree withh!

[drifting ermine]

I wanna make them smoke and gangster rap

[teal iron]

I mean it's just the in-game model with ribunny's bow and armor kitbashed from the pal metal set because it's the closest thing to good armor in palworld

[queen vale]

Still a lot better than I can do

[quartz magnet]

Ya know.. i hope youre like, very correcly there. That its does helps people and change their lifes to the best..
I hope that i am wrong for believing that this is not gonna happens because of crypto.
I think i never wanted to be so wrong before.

[queen vale]

Always find people who can do art stuff good, it's not a skill I've ever been able to pick up

[quartz magnet]

ever tryed any form or art before?

[teal iron]

I really wish I was acutally good at modelling lmao

I think that with adhd I just don't have the focus to really put my mind to it

Maybe I'm too afraid of failing, too afraid to really push myself

[humble parrot]

🤔

[full mountain]

I mean even if the model is "kit bashed" I'd still consider that being good at modeling!

[queen vale]

Yeah, I just kinda .. lack the ability to kinda "make" things in picture form.
I can do creative writing and my imagination's fine, I just always kinda fail at the putting thoughts into graphic form

[small berry]

if I'm wrong, we'll lose like 1.5T in GDP worldwide, if I'm right, it will be the biggest wealth generating event in human history, I wanna be right

[quartz magnet]

[small berry]

I'm still shorting the market short term

for some reason I think people wont like the 18th meeting no matter what

which means pain for everyone

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/maxonzbrush/status/1833536132572729421

[solid locust]

Hi guys

[teal iron]

hello!

[full mountain]

[teal iron]

hi!
howdy!

[solid locust]

Your username is cool btw

[unborn mauve]

the ribbon realy tell how much you love those lunaris lol

[grand falcon]

"uh yes can you deliver me a pineappl pizza to the middle of the sahara desert please?"

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gYqypwWc9GY

[full terrace]

Id love to see you model 😮

[frozen bluff]

Thank you amazon for actually delivering my package to where I specified

That thing was expensive and I would like to not lose it

Anyway

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/416442716142960641/1220805469027831939/Gold_chunk1-fotor-bg-remover-20240322144440.png?ex=66e13c71&is=66dfeaf1&hm=82ccd4e3aab1a5a672f1835449a583238641ea9dc3b4ae495b6fe841900c8b38&

We're RICH!

[peak folio]

so much whitespace

[frozen bluff]

The background removal thing isn't working

[full mountain]

We're rich

[frozen bluff]

We're RICH!

[full mountain]

We're rich

[frozen bluff]

We're RICH!

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cute-cuddle-pet-gif-16774532

[humble parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-21386129

[undone osprey]

Chick magnet

[sick flame]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-cute-mcdo-mcdonald's-mccapy-gif-12288052841718100165

[small berry]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-capybra-ride-baby-capybara-two-capybara-baby-capybaras-gif-3774921832849281680

Embed failure party again

lets get a train going to celebrate

only explicit urls

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-hop-seal-approaching-seal-seal-dance-seal-jump-gif-9678506940158361702

[small berry]

ah snap it was a short one

[quartz magnet]

We all should make Miku-sonas, where we draw ourselves as Miku. And then we could call them our "Me-ku's"

[undone osprey]

O_o

[small berry]

I can't post gifs, yay

🤣

[quartz magnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/912388415868252220/1042284234527744072/maxwell.gif

[undone osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855755616314982440/1263935185800658974/Cattiva_Squeeze.gif

No gifs?

[peak folio]

https://media.tenor.com/d4sG_BgyH1cAAAAj/maxwell-cat.gif

wow, it like turned into a square for a split second and reverted.

[grand falcon]

What happened to your birds wings?

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

damn it, it happened again

Discord or something is having a stroke

[peak folio]

https://media.tenor.com/1Emah2MgAhoAAAAi/atoms-cry.gif

[grand falcon]

A few more minutes until I go get my new PC 👀👀

[teal iron]

inb4 tenor has decided to make their embed API a paid service

[peak folio]

Get a high refresh 1440p monitor while you’re at it

[grand falcon]

How do I check what my refresh is

[peak folio]

If you don’t know it’s probably 60hz

But it’s on windows display settings somewhere

[grand falcon]

That'll show my laptop not my TV

Won't it?

[peak folio]

It’ll show whatever* display you’re using.

[grand falcon]

Ya it's 60HZ

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859276407397285949/1283156903702298807/image.png?ex=66e1f87d&is=66e0a6fd&hm=ba179a0071f0d165eb8ec5bd64d6651206c7304d5c52cfa34264e46687b64f70&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=862&height=180

[peak folio]

If you get a powerhouse system it really doesn’t make sense to hook it up to a 1080p 60hz display, lol

[grand falcon]

How much is a better TV

(I don't want a monitor, unless they come in the size of like my TV)

[peak folio]

Hooking it up to a TV can get tricky as not all 4k TVs support native 1440p input, let alone at 120hz

4k@120hz is a thing but no computer on earth can game at that natively in demanding games quite yet. 😆

And ofc you gotta make sure the resulting heat has somewhere to go in your environment

[grand falcon]

Well I ain't looking for no 4k

So that's a plus side 😂

4k looks the exact same as 1080P to me

[peak folio]

If that’s the case I’m wondering why you’re in the market for an upgrade

1080p @60 is quite easy to drive.

But yeah TVs don’t just come in 1440p

[grand falcon]

I'm not in the market for a TV upgrade

I'm in for a PC upgrade

And that's because my laptop can't run ASA

And like 2 or 3 others

(Plus who knows what games will come out in the future)

[peak folio]

Oh if you’re going from a laptop to a desktop that’s another story.

Most tvs these days will take a 1080p signal regardless of what it natively is but I don’t know if they still sell 1080p@120

Monitors you can find like that easy but TVs idk

[grand falcon]

I'm getting a free GPU upgrade now 🤣

[visual mirage]

My laptop's own screen has a native 1920 x 1080 but only available at 144 Hz

To play the original Skyrim, I had to force the system to use 60 Hz due to the physics breaking any higher than that.

[grand falcon]

Lol

[tough comet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-dance-cat-vibe-cat-vibing-leila-gif-24155594

[peak folio]

https://x.com/geoffkeighley/status/1833590220580900898

Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) on X

Here are inflation adjusted prices for mainline PlayStation consoles since launch:

PS1: $611 (1995)
PS2: $546 (2000)
PS3: $778 (2006)
PS4: $538 (2013)
PS4 Pro: $522 (2016)
PS5: $606 (2020)
PS5 Pro: $699 (2024)

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 7:35 PM

That definitely tracks

PS3 E3 pricing announcement was legendary.

[tranquil obsidian]

tbh thats kinda not too bad with inflation in mind; i assume 5 versus 5 pro is both without disc drive?

the main issue is it kinda not being worth it if you have a 5 already

[peak folio]

PS5 isn’t terribly cheap to begin with.

But they have like no competition right now so they’ve been charging whatever they want. 😆

[distant yarrow]

While it's not cheap it can compete with desktops that are around $2,000 or so in terms of running games it seems.

[peak folio]

Ngl the eye candy on the big screen is quite nice.

Currently not planning to sell the og digital unit for the pro cause that’s a lot of money for very little change in the experience, hypothetically.

[distant yarrow]

I honestly wonder if the next Playstation will do even better, or if it will have optimization issues

[grand falcon]

Knowing company schemes, it'll probably be worse

Because they don't got any competitors

@distant yarrow btw

W Inuyasha pic

[tranquil obsidian]

the Ps3 being more expensive adjusting for inflation tho, dang

and that was with it ebing sold at a loss cause of the bluray

[distant yarrow]

XD also I can definitely see that. Intel started charging more and more for CPUs while getting worse because of having no competition for a long time. It seems like they're kind of backtracking because of AMD actually competing now.

[final karma]

I mean, tbh they haven't really been calculating inflation the same way since the early 2000s so that's probably skewing the list a little.

should do a comparison as a percentage of mean income. that would be a better metric

[peak folio]

https://x.com/synthpotato/status/1833599220047352089

Ameer (@SynthPotato) on X

The PS5 Pro reveal is at 78k dislikes and growing

A disasterous miscalculation on Sony's part.

Where do y'all think they've gone wrong outside of the price?

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 8:11 PM

We’ll see how it sells.

[full mountain]

idk about the price, i think the PS5 pro just...

doesn't really do anything really

[full mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208324263233462282/1283248271934095391/image.png?ex=66e24d95&is=66e0fc15&hm=49453abba07b62d0c6a3e04123607a0427642585fca0b1148edd3e2a92500c9a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
i see why Satisfactory was the mood

[peak folio]

https://fixupx.com/dexerto/status/1833611404978622501

[quartz magnet]

yup. was her vods channel

[full mountain]

youtube fix ur shiet

i assume as a vtuber, with how PSYCHO some viewers can get... the LAST thing you'd ever want is for fuckin' a single SOUL to get your personal info

[peak folio]

People can be crap

||like this debate||

[full mountain]

wat

[peak folio]

Politics

[quartz magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-air-biscuit-cat-biscuit-biscuit-cute-cat-gif-26544895

[peak folio]

Nothing to do with here

Presidential candidates once again not talking about Palworld. 😔

[full mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-kicker-cat-gif-26549889

[rapid marsh]

Either a psycho within the audience, or another personality on YouTube trying to remove competition through constant harassment and bombardment with the intent of permanently removing that competitor from the equation.

[quartz magnet]

who would ya vote for Palpagos president?

[rapid marsh]

It’s happened before numerous times.

[rapid marsh]

Lovander.

[quartz magnet]

[rapid marsh]

Turn Palworld into a den of debauchery and mayhem

[quartz magnet]

[rapid marsh]

Why is stitch farting hearts 💀

[peak folio]

Just like #palworld-general

[rapid marsh]

There is only one safe place, and we dare not speak of it.

[peak folio]

What do you mean by “safe?”

[keen forum]

There is no place safe on the internet

[rapid marsh]

There is. It’s called airplane mode 😆

[keen forum]

I said on the internet you goofy

[rapid marsh]

To be safe on the internets, you get off the internets.

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682227584087490573/1202687558551871498/954158.mp4?ex=66e1e692&is=66e09512&hm=4236e9bbea0578ad0fa3e3b13b3e23218b70e9b9f97c30d5f1948ef34dac8f05&

[teal iron]

Common youtube L

[teal iron]

yeah satisfactory is gonna go hard

palworld dead 0/10 worst game it's satisfactory time

[full mountain]

i should get into a factory game... i friggin LOVE automation in stuff like modded MC and Palworld...

[teal iron]

wait until you find out that satisfactory has automation without mods

[full mountain]

i guess i haven't looked into stuff like satisfactory and factorio cuz i feel like i'd be too low IQ to play like efficiently or something

[full mountain]

yeee that's what im saying

[teal iron]

You don't need to play efficiently tbh especially in satisfactory it's a very chill game

it's not like palworld where if you don't minmax you aren't allowed to fight hard mode bosses or raid bosses

[full mountain]

truuuue, i always viewed satisfactory and factorio as a Terraria and MC sorta combo, they both offer different experiences within the same genre

porque no los dos? lmao

[teal iron]

The only enemy in satisfactory is your own obsession with perfection

and those stupid hatchers that spawn the flies omg i hate hate hate hate hate

[full mountain]

i wanna build gun

[teal iron]

You can build a gun in satisfactory

[full mountain]

this pleases me

[teal iron]

You can't automate the gun itself because there's no real reason to but you can automate ammo

Mass produce seeking ammunition

you can also also also

[full mountain]

yoooo that sounds sick

[teal iron]

You can mass produce remote detonated explosives

AND once you get to the nuclear phase you can mass produce nuclear warheads

[full mountain]

i wanna automate 7.62x39mm AP rounds and then send them to war torn areas on the planet so that i can harvest oil for my wheel machine

its a machine that makes wheels

[teal iron]

On my old save file I had just powered up my nuclear fission plant and production of nuclear C4

[full mountain]

[teal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-democracy-moment-gif-676178966146504450

[full mountain]

okay i actually wanna play this game now, does it have co-op

[teal iron]

It does!

The best part
It's been fully optimized

[full mountain]

yoooooooo

[teal iron]

They optimized the game so you can focus on optimizing your factory

[full mountain]

idea! you get your Lunaris mod and i'll make my own pal mod and we could get a sick pal-themed save goin'

[keen forum]

https://tenor.com/view/im-feeling-very-american-right-now-tan-france-im-american-i-can-feel-it-elle-gif-17754776

[teal iron]

I actually had to outsource the majority of the work on the lunaris mod to someone else

because I really didn't wanna deal with UE5
And I don't wanna ask them to make another pal mod

[full mountain]

well i don't mind figuring it out on my end!

if i can make my own VRC avatar im sure i can make a model swap mod for Satisfactory

[teal iron]

Not to mention that all of this is moot as we have to wait for the mod loading tool and modding kit to be updated

[full mountain]

ye

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/784226057308995604/1097355840786276473/VRChat_2023-04-16_22-51-42.368_1920x1080.png?ex=66e25944&is=66e107c4&hm=0d65e7cb0987b3ce2d185fb300131145aaf59fae956010ec88f559e841a992f5&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1202&height=676&

[teal iron]

yoooooooo

Hypothetically which pal would you want to use

[full mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1263242765714722927/1283279084494786600/VRChat_2023-04-17_00-38-21.356_1920x1080.png?ex=66e26a47&is=66e118c7&hm=ff2de5252e5dc28e55986afc36f511287facf014c6fd7b7f562b746ae62a395a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1202&height=676

he's chillin'

[teal iron]

Satisfactory and Palworld use basically the same bone structure just a different positioning which means that my Playable Pals models are basically perfect already

[full mountain]

Anub- BLAM

[teal iron]

I didn't make a humanized anubis

although tbh anubis probably uses a nearly identical bone structure too
fills me with rage

[full mountain]

another Anubis W

nah jk, lemme look at the list of pals

[keen forum]

Make a war thunder mod for Palworld pls

all pals are now battle vehicles

[teal iron]

there's already war in palworld
thunder too

[keen forum]

https://tenor.com/view/put-them-both-together-chris-henderson-3doors-down-put2and2together-reunite-them-gif-21286357

[teal iron]

give dinossom lux a gun?

😕

anyway yeah if you wanna play satisfactory carby lemme know

shoot me one of those "Direct Messages" the kids are talking about

I would say "try" but it's highly unlikely you'll not run over the refund limit of 3 hours

[full mountain]

nah im sure i'll like satisfactory

[teal iron]

I more meant it was highly addictive so

so on that note I would advise you clear an entire afternoon for the game if you can

[full mountain]

Honestly, i would try to model anubis cuz i genuienly like his design as a pal, but i know you HATE EM so outta the democratically approved list of pals i think i'd either go with Katress, Wixen, or Petallia

oh and maybe Beegarde

i like Beegarde

[teal iron]

well wixen is
I still wanna punch somebody about wixen

[full mountain]

you hate da Wixen?

fair enough, but why tho?

[teal iron]

"i'll optimize this model by removing parts that never get rendered"
I'LL OPTIMIZE YOUR SPINE BY REMOVING IT FROM YOUR BODY

Wixen has no upper arms, basically
that big neck fluff thing is like a single solid piece and all of wixen's extremities are fused onto it

which works great for wixen who never bends their arms quite that much

...not so great if you wanted to use human animations

I really like the pal actually it's quite cute

just...I do not have the skills to make it fit a human skeleton

[full mountain]

ahhhhh i see i see

when i did the Guitar Hero mod of her i didn'[t find that issue, but i guess GHWT has less advanced animations than something like Palworld and satisfactory

https://youtu.be/494A5orVH2g

[teal iron]

maybe it isn't an issue in reality but it definitely felt like an issue

"ThIs vIdEo cOnTaInS cOnTeNt fRoM uMG, wHoSe eXeCuTiVeS sHoUlD hAvE oIl sLuDgE dUmPeD iN tHeIr hOmEs"

[full mountain]

yeah you[ll have to pop it into a browser

or into Bowser

[teal iron]

too much effort 😔

[full mountain]

[teal iron]

we'll never see wixen shredding it

[full mountain]

iz ok

[teal iron]

now if you'll excuse me I need to find some oil sludge

"created water" I believe it's called

[rapid marsh]

Not as dead as…..
“/spoiler Concord”

Well. That didn’t work 😑

[teal iron]

U rite
Even deader

[rapid marsh]

Way deader.
It was deader faster than pokefans banging on how fast Nintendo could grab pocket pair for a sniff of the glory 😆

I think concord has the record for fastest game death (sans being canned in production).

[small berry]

Mornin'

[rapid marsh]

Mornin nerzul

[indigo kite]

Morning everyone, sorry it's been awhile ❤️

[small berry]

day of remembrance today, hug your close ones, stay alert

[final karma]

"heavy-ends", "tar", and "parrafin" are all forms of oil sludge

[sick flame]

https://x.com/TheCrewGame/status/1833543516506435739?t=AwFS00UFmTQ81eJ42wqcbw&s=19

The Crew Motorfest (@TheCrewGame) on X

We heard your concerns about access to The Crew games

Today, we want to express our commitment to the future of The Crew 2 and The Crew Motorfest.

We can confirm an offline mode to ensure long term access to both titles, stay tuned for more news in the next months.

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 4:30 PM

[fringe raptor]

How is everyone doin'?

[grand falcon]

Well my PC crashed while I was playing diablo 3

But the computer shop doesn't open until 11, so I gotta message them later today, and tell them what happened

[grand falcon]

It didn't blue screen, so I guess that's a good thing? IDK

[small berry]

a blue screen is generally not that bad cause it tells you what happened, I think I'd rather get that than nothing at all

its not rocket science, blue screen means the PC figured out something was wrong before it imploded, no blue screen means it was sudden, instantaneous

as in maybe your cat jumping on top of your motherboard for the heat

[barren sierra]

It not bluescreening means there was a failure in power delivery

IT could mean anything, such faults are harder to isolate cause they are hardware related

Could be a random capacitor or resistor malfunctioning, could be a faulty power supply, a random slot on the motherboard, your power cable not being fully slotted in etc etc

[fringe raptor]

Hopefully they can sort it if it is serious. Blue screens are useful though

[grand falcon]

I mean I got a 2 year warranty

So they better fix it, or else 😂

[peak folio]

https://x.com/bucky_cm/status/1833519427280900483

Bucky | Palworld 🔜 Tokyo Game Show (@Bucky_cm) on X

I can’t believe Mark Cerny just walked out on stage and announced the PSP Go 2

Twitter · Sep 10, 2024, 2:54 PM

https://tenor.com/view/damn-christucker-ice-cube-friday-gif-9965451

[fringe raptor]

100% agree lol

[grand falcon]

I have the error event copied as text

So once it's 11am, I'll be sending them a text with the error code and what not

Hopefully they'll be able to help

[barren sierra]

Thats nice event codes help a lot

[grand falcon]

I hope I don't gotta take it back into the shop

I hate transporting computers

Especially desktops

[small berry]

not really an issue if it has ssds

only hdds are an issue

[grand falcon]

On the plus side

My PC is able to run ASA, at like 90+ FPS

On the map "aberration"(which is like the worst optimized map)

[small berry]

I hate that good fps can still have horrible low peaks

oh you got to render distance to see the base from this guy? say bye to your fps

you're running some cool complex mod? hah, 30fps less for griffindor

[peak folio]

90fps on 60hz display

[humble parrot]

Good morning

[small berry]

isnt 60hz like nothing

[humble parrot]

Hi Nerzul, Kyran

[small berry]

do you need more than 60 fps with 60hz?

is it worth it?

[humble parrot]

Nope

[small berry]

console style

nvm those were 40fps?

[humble parrot]

The effect is less noticeable on lower frequency screens

[small berry]

makes sense

[humble parrot]

You may notice it a bit more smooth, but it'll be better on a higher frequency screen

[grand falcon]

I mean hay

Shit runs buttery smooth

[small berry]

meanwhile pro-gamers: " I can see the screen tearing" "I can feel the microstutter"

[grand falcon]

Next month there's supposed to be an update for ASA that makes the game run better or something

So I'll be getting even more FPS soon

[peak folio]

Just cap it at 60fps and save the power.

[small berry]

and CPU, right?

even if its an insignificant amount of cpu

[peak folio]

Depending on the game.

Overall system wattage would drop significantly since it’s not kicking out frames that are never seen.

[small berry]

It kinda seems like it's a bad idea to get a 60hz screen for gaming

[peak folio]

High refresh is a relatively recent thing, video signals were standard 60hz for a very long time.

[icy pecan]

I love bad ideas

[peak folio]

Most people don’t know what gaming above 60fps even looks like.

[small berry]

Offtopic, I'm rewatching GoT, in one scene you can clearly hear "The King in the north" but the captions for some reason says, "Take their heads off"

[peak folio]

Oops editing apparently

[small berry]

and it's not one of those, well captions are showing you what someone says in the background, noup

The character says "The" with a strong scottish accent and the AI assisted translation was like, that clearly says Take!

[small berry]

most def I think it's computer translated for the most part

only an AI can hear Take their heads off when someone says The king in the north with a strong scottish accent

[peak folio]

🗿

[small berry]

and maybe it's the fact that a bunch of people yell that at the same time, AI was real confused

I can understand how the syllables of "The K..." as Take, the rest I don't even know

[night plume]

I enjoy when the captions are verbatim script and not what the audio is for the movie.
Those are fun.

I despise these voice to text captions services are doing.

[humble parrot]

Too bad. They all killed off the translation services

[full terrace]

Good morning y'all 😴

[humble parrot]

Morning Bronze

[small berry]

I want to share screenshot I published on steam, I find the pic in my profile activity, how do I freaking share this garbage

Why is steam still a 2001 app

second click, "save screenshot as"

WTF STEAM

Where the freaking share button

[night plume]

I just use the f12 button for the dcreenshot and just drag them from the screenshots folder

[small berry]

idk I don't know why we have to use this garbage that should have social utility to it and it barely can manage to share screenshots

it has no integrations with anything and I have to click like 5 times through steam to share a screenshot that I have posted in my profile

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1283426134242885753/meme-on-ps5-pro-v0-lt4v9spro4od1.webp?ex=66e2f33b&is=66e1a1bb&hm=dc720837dae2609c5aa027ed040cf19b316f43c8ae749ded27ee05b8e0622b3f&

[small berry]

500 hundred stripes, now.

[sick flame]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/892103449204908073/1283428568139038892/image.png?ex=66e2f57f&is=66e1a3ff&hm=3ab82a86219cec1e99c7de9d07a3f491e469ee9dc74ea089d9f0a83c47bfdd0f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1440&height=430

[full mountain]

Minecraft

[small berry]

This is the best they can do?

[sick flame]

https://tenor.com/view/palworld-depresso-mining-pal-pal-world-gif-14704163334742062614

PalCraft

[bitter rover]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2Ef4H7l418F3YsbG3zTLcjKtK1J-8rRzWuQ&s

[full mountain]

Depresso Gaming

[sick flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892103449204908073/1283430430506352640/image.png?ex=66e2f73b&is=66e1a5bb&hm=c1562aee609781536cc036d9b6358b4eb91d4658fa854a9e26469e32945149bb&

[peak folio]

What did you do to get that achievement, I wonder

catch? kill? kiss?

[small berry]

Creative Assembly might have patched Legend of Total war's "AI self wipe" instantly, either that or it's a coincidence that these changes were implemented the day after he posted the video

we just had a hotfix, but could they "tweak" some stuff in less than 24 hours and deploy?

most probably just a coincidence that it's been hotfixed like a day after he posted the video

nvm they didn't fix it, but they tried ( makes me think it increases the possibility of it being something added last minute)

[nimble spire]

Would you guys rather fight
Sun Wu Kong
Or (not an option)
Chuck Norris

[hearty sonnet]

Sun Wu Kong I guess

I don't see any other option

[night plume]

Sun Wu Kong
As long as I do not falter from Buddha, he is easily defeatable

[small berry]

Can fight, instead, be hugging?

jeez, been a long day, my brain puts typos like candy

[grand falcon]

You gotta kiss it

[olive seal]

Hello everyone!

[peak folio]

Hmm…
-4yo smart phone limping, charge port worn but still generally works
-hundreds of dollars to fix port and replace battery
-there’s a promo to trade in a phone for $800 credit towards the latest and greatest (more than the qualifying device ever was worth new)
-promo requires a cell plan that’s $5/mo more than current plan

https://tenor.com/view/konya-gif-27452116

[olive seal]

Just trade it to Samsung, at least in the us they be giving you gold for your Nokia

Through their website

[peak folio]

That would not get anywhere near $800

[small berry]

Having an AC where I live is like Gambling, one day it can pour out a liter of water, another it could poop 5L, you never know when to check it

[peak folio]

That’s certainly how it works

[olive seal]

I used to get more from them, plus store credit—like they even gave me $20 for old earbuds 😭. But I haven’t used it in a few years, so I’m not sure if they still do that. Now I’m all about Apple.

One time they gave me a 100 google play dollar gift card for buying their 200 dollar earbuds 😅