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peak folio
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Yeah I posted that earlier

sick flame
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He could have sent the notification on the day of release and not late after 3 months to premiere

peak folio
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When I logged in it told me it was required so I thought nothing of it.

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I didn’t know PSN was unavailable in more than half the planet, lol

humble parrot
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I don't know why it was blocked here

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Sony sells Playstations here

peak folio
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That fries my brain a little bit.

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I’m guessing they don’t sell digital only consoles there.

peak folio
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So…does this mean I’m NOT going to get to hear an orchestra play the Helldivers 2 drop theme at The Game Awards…?😭

Quoting Bucky | Palworld & Craftopia (@Bucky_cm)

Can't wait to hear the Helldivers 2 drop theme played by an orchestra at @thegameawards this year! 🔥

▶ Play video
quartz magnet
small berry
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R.I.P Helldivers

peak folio
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It seems like the long and short of it is there’s a real issue of what to do about Steam sales that can’t connect to PSN, but the discord staff blew up the whole thing sky high.

sick flame
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The peoples who bought the game are to blame because PSN was announced a month before the premiere

peak folio
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Uh..

queen vale
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Sony never restricted the sale of the game or told Steam to restrict it.

tranquil obsidian
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the fact they sold the game to countries where having a psn account wasnt an option will very easily be used against them as an argument of no intent to enforce

small berry
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Saw this review, idk if there's truth to it
This forced change by SONY directly contradicts their stated language on their official website that said (said is an important word here because it's past tense) you would not need to connect to a PSN account to play a game on Steam. This statement on the OFFICIAL SONY WEBSITE was changed incognito with no announcement or warning. This is because SONY KNOWS that they misled people and changed the words after the fact in the hope that no one noticed. We did.

peak folio
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I wouldn’t be surprised if moderators said that, but that’s kind of exactly the problems

queen vale
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Honestly I just hope that Sony suffer massively for this

sick flame
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But due to a failure, it was switched to optional logging. I don't know why players from all over the world can buy the game when PSN was announced earlier

queen vale
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Wish they hadn't screwed the HD2 community for it, but of all the ones to piss off.. I can certainly see worse ones

sick flame
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Especially since pre-order was enabled on January 9

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People don't read, they just look at the quality game

queen vale
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The fact they switched it to allow people to play without a PSN account, and sold it to people in countries where a PSN account is not allowed, it's all on their own heads

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It's not really the player's faults for this inconsistency

sick flame
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Did any of the players report this?

tranquil obsidian
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report what

small berry
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Didn't they say that publicly repeated times in the past years?

queen vale
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It's unclear, however it wouldn't be the public's requirement to report, it'd be the publisher's obligation to not sell where prohibited

tranquil obsidian
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becuase the notification prompt was tied to psn, players from regions where psn wasnt available didnt get the prompt because their game couldnt conect to the servers to trigger the prompt; as such unless they were picking through every tos with a fine tooth comb, theyd have missed it.

queen vale
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It was Optional, but they changed the wording like yesterday I think

sick flame
small berry
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So really there's no blame outside of Sonys

tranquil obsidian
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ngl, ive seen some of the cms from that discord and im genuinely curious why the hell theyre kept around

peak folio
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HD2 much like Palworld was a surprise success and people were stuck in queues. The last thing they were worried about were psn logins later.

sick flame
sick flame
peak folio
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But when it came up that a lot of people who bought the game can’t fulfill that requirement the community team did like everything wrong

tranquil obsidian
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basically, for three months, the game just let you play without a PSN. effectively, psn wasnt required, but there was some fine print that said it was.

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so everyone is angry that they can, and did, let everyone play anyway and are now, 3 months later, sudenly enforcing it

tranquil obsidian
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yes and yes

peak folio
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When I logged it I was told it was required. Everyone I know saw that, but for regions outside PSN jurisdiction, they claim to have never gotten the prompt.

sick flame
peak folio
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Because it opens a browser window for the appropriate region to login.

humble parrot
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Steam product sale restrictions are setup and done by the owner of the page.

humble parrot
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Back and skip huh

small berry
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"Required" "Skip"

tranquil obsidian
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given SIE is based in california i cant really speak on american laws, especially californian ones, but in many countries there is a difference between telling someone something is required (notification, no consideration) and prohibiting it unless you do (enforcement and consideration)

queen vale
tranquil obsidian
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letting you "skip" shows a lack of intent to enforce which can very easily be used against them

peak folio
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They gave away free games for such an extended downtime

queen vale
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Honestly that prompt is not only misleading, but incorrect - "It's required" then has Skip.. not Skil x times, or any warning that it'll be enforced

tranquil obsidian
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it introduced me to inFamous. fun series.

sick flame
queen vale
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They have shut down access due to issues previously, and also done a piss poor job of communicating the issue, it's not the first or last time

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By the fact there was a skip option they can't claim they couldn't update the UI to warn players

peak folio
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People usually don’t go high and low in the fine print of a game hey just bought, they’ll just dive in and if it works for three months then great.

queen vale
peak folio
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I wouldn’t go and call them filthy pirates for being in the wrong country.

sick flame
peak folio
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So it’s a sensitive situation that Arrowhead’s community team kind of messed up.

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Just a smidge. 🤏

sick flame
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in 2007 I bought the game for PLN 170 ($42 USD) and the game did not work because my PC did not meet the hardware requirements

peak folio
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Well that’s minimum requirements

sick flame
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They are even happier when it does not meet your requirements but it works

peak folio
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Seems like one mod over there has been picking on a popular ex Blizzard fellow which really can’t be helping things. 🙄

small berry
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They should do a telenovela

peak folio
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What a crappy situation

sick flame
stone prawn
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In an alternate timeline chicken taste like beef, while beef taste like pork while pork taste like chicken

small berry
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"In an alternate timeline chicken tastes beef and everything else tastes like bacon"

stone prawn
small berry
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But you're just swapping flavors that's not a joke

stone prawn
small berry
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but when you grab the common knowledge of everything tastes like chicken and you swap it to bacon, then you've got the "start" of a joke

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This is an elitist off topic channel sir, I'll have you step out of the veheheicle if you cause a ruckus

frozen bluff
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Good evening y'all, how's everyone doin?

night plume
icy yoke
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Good evening

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I’ve been at work most of the day

hollow tree
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How are you doing?

frozen bluff
frozen bluff
# hollow tree How are you doing?

I'm doing alright. Now on break after dealing with equipment failure because they decided to overload one of the furnaces 🙃. What did you do to your arm?

icy yoke
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Aw dang :(((

frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
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Don't be bringing any dirty ass hands or anything near me if you're gonna stick a Needle in my arm.

hollow tree
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So, did the thing, got to the car and my mom was shopping, had an anxiety attack and now I’m exhausted

frozen bluff
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Yeah I'd be pissed lmao

hollow tree
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I think she was just having a bad day

frozen bluff
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People here can lose their jobs if they do that

hollow tree
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Yeah free health care

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Nurses don’t get paid enough so they stop caring

frozen bluff
icy pecan
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Cynic did you break the equipment

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Don’t lie

hollow tree
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I mean I’ll take it over paying anymore money for immigration right now

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But im hopeful I don’t get an infection

frozen bluff
frozen bluff
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Up your vitamin C intake

hollow tree
icy pecan
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Oh lol well im sorry then

hollow tree
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So I’m hoping that’s enough

icy pecan
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I break equipment all the time lmao

hollow tree
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I’m hoping I get a couple commissions in the next few days to cover the last of my expenses for London and then I’m set

frozen bluff
hollow tree
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I fished out some old clothes for the interview that need a good wash and press

hollow tree
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Fun fact

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Well, not so fun for me

frozen bluff
frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
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Damn

icy pecan
hollow tree
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It’s not so bad although I like the smell of it

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My dad drinks strawberry milk a lot and I always think it smells divine

frozen bluff
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Huh

frozen bluff
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We had to replace both and wait for them to clear it out

hollow tree
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Add water

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That’ll fix it

icy pecan
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Ahh

frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
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Not many do, but I don't blame them

hollow tree
frozen bluff
hollow tree
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Weird story but a plug thing got stuck in my outlet and I thought that if I turned the outlet off I’d be fine wedging a metal screwdriver in to wiggle the part out

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I was 25, got a brief shock where everything went blue for a sec and it felt like I got punched in the chest

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Came to on the floor and uh yeah

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I’m no longer allowed tools or anything apparently

frozen bluff
hollow tree
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Now I just don’t do anything helpful when it comes to DIY or anything

queen vale
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Never use anything metal when fucking around with even a possibly live circuit.. if you're not sure don't do anything except kill the power and get someone who does - it's mush safer than you potentially getting a lethal zap

hollow tree
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Weirdly enough it didn’t go bbbbzzzzt it just went pop

queen vale
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Yeah the Bzzzt thing isn't really a thing with electric shocks, as it's an energy dump, right into you

frozen bluff
hollow tree
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It’s a wonder I survived childhood sometimes and adulthood

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Not the brightest crayon in the box

queen vale
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You might hear circuits buzz and stuff, but you won't generally hear any kind of warning before you get blasted across a room

frozen bluff
queen vale
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Reason being is that you suddenly become the circuit, and it's so fast it's insane

frozen bluff
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Now we had one of the giant electrodes in the SRF contact the ground and make a huge, bright arc of electricity that made the loud bzzzzttt noise

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THAT was pretty cool

queen vale
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Oh yeah, if a transformer goes pop or a main power line falls down, then you get all sorts of pretty sounds and sparks.. shortly before the fires

frozen bluff
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Indeed. Welp gotta wrap up my day y'all. Take it easy

queen vale
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Also Egg - when you go over to the USA, their power grid works differently to ours (50hz here, 60 over there, and usually 120v at the plug over there compared to 230 here.)
So you might find if you plug some things in they behave really strangely, and if you plug stuff from the USA in over here, if it's not correctly rated it'll literally blow up

night plume
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Reading this convo reminded me of when my friend tried to throw water on a grease fire

queen vale
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Mother in law brought a plug in thermal blanket from the states and plugged it in. I lost a monitor that day due to the breaker dying

queen vale
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If you are trained on how to use a fire blanket or similar go for it

night plume
# queen vale Jesus. RIP

I had never made homemade fries before. He told me he knew how, so I listened to him on how much grease in the pot, temperature, and how many fries.
It boiled over, caught fire. I immediately turned off the burner, used the mit to pull the pot off burner and asked him for a damp towel. Turn around for the damp towel and he has a giant bowl of water. I push him and the bowl to the floor, get my damp towel and smother the fire.

queen vale
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I can only imagine how much of your life flashed before your eyes when you saw that bowl

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(Damp towel over the pan smothers the fire but you gotta be careful as too much moisture can just cause it to go pop)

small berry
night plume
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As a child, I accidentally put water in a container of hot grease and it erupted all over my dad. When I saw that bowl in my friends hands, I realized he should NEVER be allowed in a kitchen bc we were not children in that kitchen that day.

night plume
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Too many towels have stretchy stuff in them x.x

queen vale
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Unfortunatly, skills like this aren't seemingly taught in schools, and I believe they would genuinely save lives - how to deal with electrical faults, how to deal with a house fire / pan fire, how to deal with water spraying on sockets - stuff that's uncommon enough to not always happen, but you'll be bloody glad you know if it does

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Also if a live powerline drops and you are close to it - put your feet together if you can't get away, and don't step, don't fucking move, as the distance between your feet can become an arc point apparently and pop

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If you're in a car and it drops on the car, stay in it, don't touch ANYTHING even remotely metal

night plume
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A classmate in high school begged me to take home economics with him. I declined, I already knew more than that joke of a class would teach. He wanted a buddy to pick up girls with in the class :p

The next semester, I see him, he had joined the class. He hated it, the put all the girls in one class, and all the guys in another xD the school knew what was going on lol.

small berry
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The only skills taught in school as far as I understand are memorizing, discipline and study/research

hollow tree
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I really want museli for some reason

small berry
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they don't deal with skills well, they try to just do what youtube videos do nowadays

queen vale
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(I'll be fair, a fair few of these I've learned from experience rather than school)

night plume
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When I was in high school, they taught you how to bake boxed brownies

queen vale
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I learned some woodwork skills, basic programming and logic gates with something called a Turtle and a physical emulation of traffic lights, and I chose to take the cooking and sewing classes

small berry
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sure, I wish school was more skills focused

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instead of wasting my time spending years to learn what often youtube can do faster

night plume
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Pretty sure I told this here already, but my Mythology teacher taught the class the blanket stitch during a project. He wanted everyone to leave school with a useful sewing skill

queen vale
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Honestly, the amount of times the sewing class has been a lifesaver (Bust trousers at work? Gimme 5 and I'll patch them so you can get home)

small berry
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We weren't taught a single practical thing outside of arts or physical exercise

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worst part, they didn't even teach us a thing about our country

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cause of the civil war

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everything was "world related"

tough comet
small berry
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unless you're going ethics and only when 18

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we don't get Spanish history

queen vale
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😦

small berry
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that's haram

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Our primary education and secondary is essentially math, languages, biology and arts

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and some history and whatnot

queen vale
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That's rough man

small berry
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nothing more, nothing less

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well, we did tech, nvm

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I took industrial tech and that was interesting, best choice I could have done

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there's been attempts, mostly from the left to teach civics and whatnot but that's been bouncing around as a political beachball

queen vale
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At least you can try and catch up on lost time now

small berry
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the US has a huge culture with extracurricular stuff, you guys really get out there to get into a good university

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like, 10 times harder than anyone in Spain I can assure you

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We go to football as extracurricular and we leave it at that

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in the US you have a freaking two pages long list of achievements and contributions to the community, it's nuts and humbling

queen vale
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UK isn't too bad for schooling, I think it's dependant on where you are though in the USA as to the .. "quality" of the education

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The USA does also seem to make a song and dance out of every stage of school

small berry
queen vale
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That's fair

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Least that's how I assume things are in the USA >.<

small berry
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we're purely school educated then jump to work, with 0 experience in any other thing in life

small berry
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but alas, I think that's a huge strength, it came up in a chat with my dad a couple months ago, he didn't really like the idea of allowing anyone from anywhere to pick the public school they want

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cause then all the good public ones would be filled with rich kids for some bizarre logic

queen vale
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Yeah, that does happen

small berry
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but then the good kids are stuck with bad schools

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and that's pretty bad

queen vale
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Yep

small berry
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When it comes to how streamlined the process is, Spain is the opposite to complex, elaborate, intricate, however you wanna call it, we get one exam and that's the rest of your life

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nothing to worry up to that point regarding grades unless you're talking the 2 years before university

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Which I think is a good thing cause it makes it super easy and obvious for people to go into vocational school so it's a win for our economy

queen vale
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Education should be easy to get and get into, absolutely

rustic knot
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They learned how to make sports into a for-profit, outside of the NFL, and other major ends. They bleed it for everything they can.

small berry
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I lowkey love how they do that, they should pay the kids what they're owed tho

frozen bluff
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No

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<@&505995738564526080>

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Thank you mods 🙏

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Ain't in the mood to deal with the bot spam tonight lmfao

frozen bluff
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How is everyone doing?

hollow tree
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I can’t sleeeeeeep

quartz magnet
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im ok. how about ya, Cynic?

humble parrot
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Doing alright, playing some chill games

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I think I had enough drama for now.

frozen bluff
frozen bluff
frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
humble parrot
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Pots o' gold water?

frozen bluff
hollow tree
frozen bluff
hollow tree
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But make it sound like I didn’t stand you up I don’t need a waitress thinking I’m awful UNLESS she’s cute in which case play the sympathy card and get her number and make me sound like a total bitch

hollow tree
frozen bluff
small berry
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where's the "table for 1"?

frozen bluff
frozen bluff
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I refuse to grow old without seeing what my body is capable of

peak folio
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I refuse to grow old.

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dies

frozen bluff
peak folio
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Too late I’m dead

peak folio
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Yes

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Bonemeal

small berry
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idk, mirrored from memes

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best of the week

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I just stocked my "greens" I love the smell of the house when there's a good harvest

frozen bluff
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I'm still in the house hunting phase

frozen bluff
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Aight y'all

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How did your days go?

small berry
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chillin'

frozen bluff
small berry
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how bout you?

icy pecan
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Wow I just saw the closest finish in motor history I think

frozen bluff
icy pecan
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And my driver won lol

peak folio
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🏎️
🚗

small berry
icy pecan
small berry
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oof

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pretty unique moment indeed

icy pecan
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It made history lol

small berry
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maybe you're the butterfly and that difference is the tornado

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maybe you did this Harry

trim kiln
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👍

frozen bluff
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Off to sleep I go, goodnight y'all

oak spruce
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hey does anyone here know anything about PC's? i got a few questions if i could get some help

humble parrot
rare osprey
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You’re a lizard Harry. A hairy wizard Harry.

vocal arch
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Well well well.

full mountain
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yeeeee

full mountain
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the power of community

vocal arch
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Eh

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I still think it's steam removing it from over 150 countries

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But a win is a win

icy yoke
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helldivers is saved

jaunty temple
hexed sentinel
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It's back 😄

pine token
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Hello. It would be nice to have Maid outfits for girls, and butler outfit for men.

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Even if with no stats.

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Just a skin to find or make in the game. But it could have stats, also.

full mountain
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don't be a pansy!

pine token
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I don't think that would be pretty. I really like the traditional style for those things. = )

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And it would be easier to make.

wanton topaz
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it would be even easier to not make outright :0

pine token
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lol

gusty marten
rustic basin
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ai spoungebob is back

cyan acorn
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yo

tranquil obsidian
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that was good news to wake up to (helldivers).

rapid marsh
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@small berry Sony buckled 😆

quartz magnet
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good mornin frens GuraDinoSit

tranquil obsidian
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it kinda is

plush marsh
quartz magnet
sick flame
quartz wave
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vpn

tranquil obsidian
next kayak
queen vale
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Ooof, 95,000 negative reviews yesterday for HD2 before the change of mind

next kayak
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Wonder if people will go back to playing it and just allow psn to get away with slapping a bandaid on it and saying sorry

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It's pretty obvious that they're just showing crocodile tears to save their screw up

tranquil obsidian
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so whats your solution?

next kayak
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Me?

tranquil obsidian
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sony required psn, arrowhead didnt enforce it, annual review came up and sony noticed the number disparity and reminded people it was meant to be mandatory, not optional

it unfortunately had a lot of repurcussions for a lot of people as it was essentially too late to make it mandatory now

following the fallout, sony decided to backtrack it so everyone can go back to playing it

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basically, everything's back to how it was, so what more do they need to do? youre clearly dissatisfied so what more would it take?

queen vale
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So 37,000 on 3 May, 71,000 on 4th May, 95,000 on 5th May..

next kayak
# tranquil obsidian basically, everything's back to how it was, so what more do they need to do? you...

I don't even play that game. You clearly read too much into what people write on the Internet. I stated an outside opinion in the form of a question, which was essentially "will people really buy it again after getting their refunds and such" due to the massive sour taste that this will obviously leave in other people's mouth.

Sure, people got a rare W from this, commend them for listening once their stonks fell a bit. But, as I said, this was clearly just psn slapping on a bandaid and saying oops

tranquil obsidian
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"psn slapping on a bandaid and saying oops"

its this bit; you called it a bandaid and im asking what more would you have them do?

queen vale
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I'd hope this backlash would be enough to prompt them to review their marketing and region locking and perhaps make them realise their market is obviously much, much wider than their idiot analytics suggest

full mountain
icy pecan
queen vale
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I'd expect a very uncomfortable board meeting tomorrow, perhaps with the HD2 CEO in on it to recount their experience

tranquil obsidian
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if theyre going to make psn acounts mandatory, hopefully a take away from this is that they really need to offer it in more countries or have a workaround for those who cant

queen vale
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"In 3 days we took a literal money printing machine and set it on fucking fire because we didn't know our own products, and restrictions."

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"It also turns out we chose the exact wrong machine to set on fire, because this game's entire premise is to unify against a common threat."

peak folio
queen vale
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Oh that please needs to be made into an official cape

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That would be absolutely amazing

tranquil obsidian
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or a player card

queen vale
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Player card might need Sony to agree

tranquil obsidian
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i meant the ingame player cards

queen vale
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Oh OK

tranquil obsidian
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the ones that show behind your character in the menus

queen vale
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Honestly, Arrowhead would gain massive points in my eyes if they did adopt it as a cape as a legit "Mea culpa"

next kayak
tranquil obsidian
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i mean, theyre the publisher; they want something for their work.

next kayak
queen vale
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"This cape was found amongst the wreckage of an outpost who were cut off from resupply, a plain blue sheet painted in blood, where a stalwart group of helldivers stood defending the citizens inside until a resupply craft could be diverted to assist.
This was adopted by the team who discovered it in honour of those taking a final stand, and raising their voices to declare they will not fall."

tranquil obsidian
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-the agreement was that psn accounts would be mandatory, thus increasing psn's memership growth.
-arrowhead didnt make them mandatory, which led to people getting the game despite not being eligible for psn.
-psn enforced the original agreement because in their eyes, arrowhead broke contract
-unfortunately, by this point, it had been too long and caused a lot of consumer problems
-it was much easier to just ignore the original contract and honour the sales

-sadly, for arrowhead, this means theyll likely have a very scary meeting with psn

queen vale
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Oof.. That Spitz guy got in shit with Sony apparently.
In reply to someone thinking he got fired

Spitz :
Almost. Not quite.

Turns out that telling people to review-bomb and refund a game isn't a popular decision with the publisher. But I'm still here and I'm glad that we all made a difference.

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That lack of details in reply tells me a lot

tranquil obsidian
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yeah, spitz got attacked by a lot of people and demanded he get fired, but in my eyes he was actually telling people how to direct their anger, just in a very blunt and rude way

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it makes more sense he'd get in trouble with sony than arrowhead

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"aww youre upset? go tell someone who cares"
translation; "you cant change anything from here, go to the actual store and complain where sony will see and be affected by it; they dont read discord"

queen vale
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Yeah, especially given he looked like he was encouraging it.
I get the feeling based on his comments recently he probably outright said to Sony "I told them what they could do if they were unhappy, as we were unable to appease them."

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I get the feeling there's a lot of reading between the lines with this character

tranquil obsidian
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i feel his wording was designed to anger people to get them worked up and motivated, then the latter half was telling them how to vent their new-stoked anger

tranquil obsidian
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the cms that definitely deserve to be fired are the "i just want more power" and "we knew, but i didnt want to tell anyone becausei wanted to enjoy the shitshow"

queen vale
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The I want more power ones, yeah burn them though

tranquil obsidian
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honestly i think spitz is comparable to that incredbles scene in the insurance company =p

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"i want to tell you that you could go to this place and leave a bad review and tank its score, but i cant"

tranquil obsidian
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i would argue its not off-topic though; this was an actual game affecting change.

offtopic is stuff like "game is good, but the developer hates xbox players"

queen vale
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The Divers discord is apparently at the same pace as day 1 telling people to revert the reviews

tranquil obsidian
#

its gained 23l positive since the announcement

queen vale
#

Not at my PC right now so can't check how it's going.. but I'm actually not sure how many will Vs how many will hold for further info

tranquil obsidian
#

its back up to 36% (from 15%)

queen vale
tranquil obsidian
#

some peiople arent flippiung their reviews back until they see countries unblocked though

#

but thats up to steam tmk

queen vale
#

Well up to Sony to tell Steam

tranquil obsidian
#

not something i can make an informed take on im afraid; im not sure if its sony or steam that implemented it

queen vale
#

If Steam implemented it of their own choice, it will be because they were made aware of the TOS issue, which means Sony will still need to tell them to undo it

tranquil obsidian
#

not sure if its
"we need psn, so b lock countries that cant"
or
"we need psn" then steam went "so we'll block ones who cant"

queen vale
#

I imagine it was "It has come to our attention you don't allow PSN in x,y,z, and this game requires PSN.. so we are blocking x,y,z so we are not selling a game that violates your own ToS."

#

A degree of arse covering, and a degree of malicious compliance.
Someone probably was giggling when they pushed that change, knowing they were untouchable.

hollow tree
#

Pretty sure they’re fixing it now

small berry
#

Can't blame people for not being interested in the game anymore, idk why people have to go back on what they said for them to be reasonable

#

they did what they did, people have walked away, not changing the review is normal

tranquil obsidian
#

if they changed to negative because theyre done with it, fair enough.
if they changed it as part of a protest and their demands were met, they really should change back

small berry
#

"We did what you wanted guys, why isnt every negative review instantly gone, you guys are not reasonable, dogpilers" cat_cry cat_cry

frozen bluff
#

Morning y'all

#

How is everyone doing? cat_happy

small berry
#

bout to go do some chores harapeko

tranquil obsidian
small berry
#

I know

frozen bluff
#

Gotta thaw some lean beef

small berry
frozen bluff
#

Will be making stuffed peppers

#

Weekend foods

#

Also got stabbed with a needle this morning

frozen bluff
#

Also saw that Arrowhead is not moving forward with the update that they were planning on implementing

vocal monolith
#

hey, waddup

peak folio
#

Snoy Forces. 😆

vocal monolith
#

snoy

#

lol

icy pecan
#

The bots plan to destabilize super earth had failed

icy yoke
#

It’s always nice to see the community actually able to make a change

#

Who would have thought that all of that chaos would have actually worked

peak folio
#

They just need to change the region restrictions back.

peak folio
#

Snoy
lol

hollow tree
#

I want stuffed peppers

deft python
#

Me too

#

But these lame nurses won't give me my camera pill

#

So I can start the timer for when I can eat again

#

So I just get to keep waiting to eat

#

Rrrrr

peak folio
#

Snoy peppers

tough comet
#

cat_happy snoy sounds fun to say

queen vale
#

It sounds like it should be a springy thing... Snoooooooooyyyyyyyy

frozen bluff
#

Gotta get back to work y'all. Take it easy now

inland echo
inland echo
#

Ok I read it as him being on the side of the Helldivers stuff being "dogpiling for the sake of it"

tranquil obsidian
#

they presented two options; "genuine outrage" vs "dogpiling for the sake of it"

i would say "making an actual change" falls under genuine outrage

peak folio
#

“This will be a good exercise in genuine outrage vs [versus] dogpiling for the sane of it.”

#

It’s also in the context of “Helldivers is so back”

night plume
#

I overdid it on the chores yesterday x.x
(Yes, I know the chores talk is a little further up xD)

inland echo
#

I guess I don't see how people reverting their reviews is said exercise. But I understand the tweet now

peak folio
#

The buzz right now is people are willing to revert their reviews once the region restrictions on steam have been lifted.

tranquil obsidian
#

because the protest was "we will flip our reviews until our demands are met". if they dont stay true to that protest, then it will just look like they were dogpiling cause it was cool and had no intention of it being taken as a serious protest

#

if you have demands, and they are met, its only fair you hold true to your end of the bargain and undo the damage.

tranquil obsidian
#

otherwise, it will send messages to companies "it doesnt matter if you meet our demands, we'll keep the damage" then companies are less likely to listemn to priotests in the future

peak folio
#

We gotta remember gamers dogpile a lot (“Nintendo needs to sue Palworld!”) but HD2 ran into a real issue due to an unfortunate circumstance.

tranquil obsidian
#

not quite the same deal; this was a game that allowed you to play without it for 3 months, then suddenly enforced it.

most other games require it from the start

sick flame
#

imagine: install on PC 30 launchers on every publisher

night plume
#

If they just delayed it and made it more apparent it was going to be required, and didn't allow region locked players to purchase the game, I would have been on the side of, "you knew what you were buying."

But, with them delaying it, allowing regions that do not allow psn to purchase the game with no intention of refunding it, and them just having a small section stating that would be a requirement, I fully agree with everyone being angry o.o

sick flame
peak folio
#

That’s how they used to roll.

night plume
simple pagoda
simple pagoda
small berry
#

we just like to complain as average gamers

night plume
small berry
#

companies offer us a lot of value and what's wrong with having a few launchers

simple pagoda
small berry
#

They've earned it !

simple pagoda
#

Look at riot

#

CCP social score

small berry
#

Yeah, I hate launchers, it's like a freaking Russian doll that never ends

night plume
small berry
#

I mentioned once how the whole multi launcher bs would be over if companies had a framework to share data and crossplay

small berry
#

We need an open source alternative that all platforms can use and stop this nonsense

simple pagoda
#

If only

small berry
peak folio
#

There was an old MMO that made you log in through the website with Internet Explorer to start the game with an ActiveX launcher.

simple pagoda
#

And the games update once you open it

#

Rather than the launcher doing it

peak folio
#

So it had to be internet explorer

small berry
#

I remember ActiveX

simple pagoda
#

RuneScape updates through it's client

peak folio
#

Everything else seems amazing compared to that.

simple pagoda
#

It's not revolutionary tech

small berry
#

It's not so hard to not have a freaking launcher for every freaking game company that wants one

#

Paradox, Ubisoft, Sony, Microsoft, Steam, Epic, Electronic arts, when does it end

peak folio
#

Yeah it’s kind of a sad state of things.

simple pagoda
#

Microsoft is different

#

Microsoft is like an app store

#

Not much of a game store

peak folio
#

There was a time when the damn start menu was your launcher. 😛

small berry
small berry
#

If they want my data I can give it to them if they ask, don't make me install a freaking launcher

simple pagoda
#

I only trust Microsoft with my data

sick flame
simple pagoda
#

Since the US gov and 5 eyes is heavily monitoring them as they use their os

small berry
#

Xbox app comes installed by default in Windows afaik, that's its only saving grace and it's not a saving grace, it's like worse, but whatever

peak folio
simple pagoda
#

Google meanwhile is sus

small berry
#

Cisco is sus but what can we do

simple pagoda
#

I message on my pixel and I get ads about it. Talk irl and gets ads

small berry
#

not like I can take off the motherboard on every network device

simple pagoda
#

Sus company

#

If Microsoft made a better phone I'll buy it

small berry
peak folio
#

Windows Phone had a short stint. 😆

simple pagoda
sick flame
#

Imagine 100 launchers every publishers to login

icy yoke
#

what the hell is that gif lmao

small berry
#

Corpos don't need your audio to be smart

#

they got plenty in text form

simple pagoda
#

Once I talked about HR block and how it is trash, then boom I get garbage block ads. Same with ESO

small berry
simple pagoda
simple pagoda
#

Even on YouTube

#

No adblock on mobile

small berry
#

Using audio to feed an algo in 2024 is nuts, absolutely bonkers

#

they have terabytes of data in text form

#

freaking petabytes

simple pagoda
#

I think they still do it

small berry
#

Speech to text is decent, but it's not perfect, if it's not perfect, you are not going to risk polluting your algo with garbaggio

#

plus text is still superior to conversations in voice

simple pagoda
#

It's the same reason why captcha have gotten unbearable for us

#

It's about training their ai

small berry
#

right, training, not using in the broad market

simple pagoda
#

Ads are part of their ai for Google analytics

night plume
# small berry That's 1, not practical, 2 still not there yet, 3, unnecessary use of processing...

Google records and a computer sifts through for keywords to create targeted ads. I don't think the recordings are kept long bc it would be against the law.
To make money, you are then targeted with ads based on those keywords or the information gathered on you is sold to ad companies.

Example: I talk about needing to do a home improvement project, a local store is now sending me physical mail that says, "we heard you were about to start a project"

small berry
#

Just considering how risky legally is for your phone to be listening to you, when there's already existing legislation to punish when someone does that is beyond any company consideration

#

one thing is moving fast and breaking things, the law is already there

night plume
#

It becomes illegal if a person listens. A computer is allowed to listen.

night plume
simple pagoda
small berry
simple pagoda
#

Companies still log your calls

small berry
simple pagoda
#

Can listen to them whenever

night plume
#

I am not referring to phone calls. I am talking about when a phone is sitting idle.

simple pagoda
#

I'm saying they do that and through calls

small berry
#

The only ones listening to your audio is the government

#

that's that.

simple pagoda
#

No

#

It gets parsed for ads and that data is shipped to companies

small berry
#

You can't fully parse audio for ads

night plume
small berry
#

cause you'd get ads for Viagra

simple pagoda
#

I got random cloud flare and Oracle ads after talking about it in a call, never discussed it anywhere before

peak folio
simple pagoda
small berry
simple pagoda
#

So that's a lie

small berry
simple pagoda
#

Pull keywords

#

Then put that in their file

small berry
simple pagoda
#

But it works

small berry
#

and you're not gonna risk polluting your multimillion algo with it

simple pagoda
#

That's the idea of their algo

#

It's the only evil smart thing they can do

#

Targeted ads

small berry
#

They don't need it

#

never have needed it, never will

#

they use terabytes of metadata, they don't need your audio for gods sake

#

They will anticipate your needs based on your demographics

#

people that have followed your patterns will do things before you or after you, when they do it before you, you're being fed your future thoughts

night plume
# small berry You can't fully parse audio for ads

But, what I am talking about is not full on recording every word. It records and keeps tracks and tries to hold onto words/sounds that are repeated over and over.

If I was in call with you right now, it would not be recording our entire conversation. It would record a bit, check for target words/sounds, record a bit, check, repeat. When it gets enough repeated topic, it will tdy to do ads based on the topic.

Example: spoke to coworkers about ships, we all got ads for cruises bc it was the closest the ad could come to the target words.

small berry
#

why do they need to spy and risk legal liability to show you marginally better ads plus risking showing you viagra

simple pagoda
#

I'm saying when I talk about stuff when my phone's near I get ads about what I talk about. That's no coincidence

#

Even in private calls

small berry
simple pagoda
#

Everyone I know with a pixel has the same complaints

night plume
small berry
night plume
#

It is only illegal in the US if you can prove a person is listening in and not a computer algorithm.

small berry
#

People have been saying the same thing for a decade or more

#

It isn't any more true today than 10 years ago

#

even if the tech is better, the algo doesn't need to be fed audio transcripts that are not even flawless

#

keywords can be missidentified as good as an entire sentence can be missinterpreted

#

The keyword doesn't understand if you said you hate something with every inch of your soul or if you love it like a soulmate

#

How many things that you hate to your core are you being shown in ads?

#

I haven't seen a Roblox ad ever and I freaking hate and talk about it I guess

night plume
#

More ads for things I hate appear than things I like :p

grand falcon
small berry
#

Tik tok also does that, are they showing you ads?

simple pagoda
#

I don't use tiktok

small berry
#

Companies can gather all the data you're willing to give them

#

that doesn't explain or justify anything

grand falcon
#

And then, you have to also consider, tiktok was/is a Chinese company, in China

So they have to follow the Chinese laws, which means if the Chinese government wants the data that tiktok has on you, they HAVE to give it

small berry
#

I know how they operate, it goes beyond just that but yeah

#

I'm not saying there's no secret AI project out there being fed all sorts of illegal stuff but those things are incredibly experimental and they're not used in algos to show you an ad

#

Governments, they do listen to you often

#

depending on which

small berry
#

How surprising, an experimental project not being used to show ads !

grand falcon
small berry
simple pagoda
#

Microsoft never gives me targeted ads when I turn off the setting

small berry
grand falcon
small berry
#

if the US or Spanish gov wants my ass they can have it tbh

simple pagoda
grand falcon
small berry
#

Well, we're only as corrupt as the least corrupt country in Europe

simple pagoda
#

I thought Sweden, Netherlands and Switzerland are the least corrupt

small berry
#

thankfully joining the EU has taken off of the hands of corrupt Spanish politicians many of the things they used to mess around

simple pagoda
#

Yes

small berry
#

That offends me

grand falcon
#

Anyone play vampire survivors?

simple pagoda
grand falcon
simple pagoda
#

China number 2

small berry
muted finch
#

Canada is like China but cold and respectful

small berry
#

what we call Corruption here is mostly deep state

simple pagoda
#

We got chinese police stations in Canada

small berry
#

we had those too here

grand falcon
#

IDK when to end my vampire survivor run

I'm at 12million gold

And my FPS is starting to drop

simple pagoda
#

Rather play those old tycoon games

grand falcon
small berry
#

I miss footmen frenzy

#

probably top 3 things I miss the hardest

simple pagoda
#

Anyone remember friv and that mini clip site

#

With flash games?

#

There was a cool RTS game I used to play on there

small berry
simple pagoda
#

I forget what it was called but it was all scifi stuff

grand falcon
#

There were a lot of websites, to play flash games on

grand falcon
simple pagoda
#

No

#

Friv

#

Was back in 2013

#

Tbh though 2010s was peak humanity

#

We got good games

peak folio
#

Ah yes, right in the height of the Great Recession

grand falcon
#

There was 1 website, I remember, can't remember what it was called

But there was this weird game, where you hit/smack a balloon monkey 😂

simple pagoda
#

Canada wasn't

peak folio
#

Oh it hit more than that.

simple pagoda
#

The falador massacre did more damage

#

Everlasting, even to today

hearty sonnet
grand falcon
#

0 idea whats going on, cant see anythinghttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594661998915223583/1237066544576729229/image.png?ex=663a4b7f&is=6638f9ff&hm=f6f2b1a4e149ca481822c899611d86f62bf234644accd41e20eb2c90566ef49f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1096&height=616

night plume
#

I wasn't present for the great fallador massacre. I was playing at the time, but somehow completely missed.
When I logged in sometime after it, a bunch of people kept following me around claiming I was one of the heros that protected people.
To this day, I still have no idea wtf it was xD

grand falcon
hearty sonnet
#

Perhaps too active

night plume
hearty sonnet
night plume
#

I had a teacher that would sell lobsters to the class xD he was a member in the game and I wasn't. Others were confused as to why I wouldn't buy lobsters from it and I always claimed I could fish better than he could xD No idea if it were true, I just didn't want to spend my gold on lobsters lol

hearty sonnet
#

I once gave my friend 1 million RS gold for his Subway Meatball Marinara sandwich at school lmao

night plume
#

We only had 1 computer in the house. I used to mine 2k coal a day for my brother so I could have his computer time xD

hearty sonnet
#

Yeah I remember having one PC and Dial-up internet

#

And my sister and I both played RS

night plume
#

It sucked when my sister got a phone call -.-"

hearty sonnet
#

I still love RS so much lol

small berry
#

Anyone played Silkroad Online?

night plume
#

I need to try and link my account so I can play on my phone

#

I tried to play Silkroad, couldn't get it to work and gave up. Was too long ago that I tried, so idk what the issue I was having was

hearty sonnet
#

OSRS on mobile is fcking legendary lol

#

Such a good mobile game

#

RS3 is too complicated for mobile I find, I also don't play RS3 anymore

#

It's meh

small berry
#

Ashes of Creation is basically Silkroad 2

night plume
#

I had and have no interest in any runescape besides old school lol.

night plume
peak folio
#

MMOs are specifically designed to waste as much of your time as possible.

hearty sonnet
small berry
#

So are many games

crimson stone
#

RS still beats most other MMORPGs.

hearty sonnet
#

If RS3 updates it's gameplay a bit I might give it another shot... But the movement didn't evolve while the rest of the game did, lots of big boss fights where movement & placement are very important, but you're still moving your character by clicking on the floor, and there's a slight delay before your character actually moves

peak folio
toxic flint
#

Word on the street is that Nintendo is advertising ESG/DEI in their investor meeting that involves Pokemon. Once again, Palworld chads keep winning

hearty sonnet
#

I'd play RS3 with W A S D controls

#

Also they wanted to release updated charcter models that actually looked decent, but they scrapped that

crimson stone
#

A shame, yeah.

#

I honestly play RS3 with the old combat.

hearty sonnet
#

For some Slayer monster tasks, Legacy Combat was somehow better, like it was the strategy to use

#

I have my Slayer level at 119 in RS3, I almost wanna log in & grind it up to 120 just to be a Slayer Master

crimson stone
#

I still use Legacy Combat Mode to this day. Nice.

#

Sadly it's hard to keep up with membership.

hearty sonnet
peak folio
hearty sonnet
#

I like how you can buy membership with in-game gold

crimson stone
#

Yep but the bond prices... jeez.

night plume
#

I miss RaiderZ. It had potential

hearty sonnet
#

Anywhere from like 15 mil to above 30 mil depending on what's going on in the game

#

I think I've seen them as low as 8 mil but that may have been a dream I had lol, might not be real

crimson stone
#

It's over 100m now.

#

117m currently.

hearty sonnet
#

I remember wanting to solo Nex in RS3 but kept failing lol

#

I got to the Blood Phase each time

tough comet
#

do not lick

night plume
#

I wish I got video of Nori last night o.o
I think she would have become a popular gif here

peak folio
#

My cats, settle down in here.

hearty sonnet
#

Wait I am absorbing the context... Nori is a cat & you meant to say GIF

night plume
#

I have corrected gof to gif and yes, Nori is cat xD

small berry
#

I thought gof was something like goofball

hearty sonnet
#

I thought up so many goofy acronyms before I was like "I bet he meant gif"

night plume
#

I used some bleach while cleaning last night. Cats react similarly to bleach as they do to catnip. Except, instead of getting happy high like they do on catnip, my cats are evil when they smell bleach.

I kept chasing Nori away from the area I used bleach while it was airing out. She began stalking me down the all, hair raised, light in her eyes that made them glow evilly.... She looked like she was going to move me

hearty sonnet
#

My cats are funny with catnip lol

#

My biggest cat turns into a big bebe

#

And I have 5 cats so they're all just goofing out to the extreme

night plume
#

My cat Scarlett reacts to strawberry leaves more than she does catnip.

small berry
#

ignore the subtitle

#

lmao

tough comet
#

I didnt

night plume
#

Nori thinks the strawberry leaves taste good. Scarlett will be all happy, rolling around, trying to hug anyone that comes near, then come to me crying bc Nori will eat all the strawberry leaves

hearty sonnet
#

I didn't even see the subtitle until you mentioned it hahaha

small berry
#

🤣

hearty sonnet
#

I found out there's dog nip out there

hearty sonnet
#

Called Anise, it's just like Capnip for dogs

night plume
#

Star anise? The seasoning? O.o

peak folio
#

Licorice

tough comet
#

dont tell me theres catnip but for hamsters

hearty sonnet
#

And I foud this out cuz it grows on the golf course, and I walk my dog there, she went all crazy over it so I went home & learned about it

peak folio
#

Hamnip?

hearty sonnet
small berry
#

We use Anise in alcohol mostly

#

its star form is what's known the most

tough comet
humble parrot
hearty sonnet
hearty sonnet
humble parrot
#

Same

hearty sonnet
#

Tombat as well

toxic flint
peak folio
#

I don’t think I like how that turned out.

tough comet
#

these emotes remind of those flash games that are pipe puzzles

small berry
peak folio
#

lol

#

I put mono there cause needed something to fill that corner.

small berry
#

he be prayin

deft python
#

🙏

peak folio
#

Praise be

#

New Pal: Chillet Knot

frozen bluff
small berry
#

When you said this I thought of a deepfried flute tune

quartz magnet
small berry
#

maybe the Jurassic park tune with a deepfried flute

tough comet
peak folio
#

Noct

small berry
#

Knut

peak folio
#

oh gdi

frozen bluff
#

😂

small berry
#

It's a name, Madonna

peak folio
#

I just realized what all the furries in here are thinking

quartz magnet
frozen bluff
#

It's a meme, batman

small berry
#

People are named that

quartz magnet
small berry
#

"Sant Canut, also known as Saint Canute, is a legendary figure in Catalan culture, often associated with the legend of King Canute and the tide. According to the legend, King Canute, a wise and powerful ruler, was said to have attempted to hold back the tide with his cloak, demonstrating his humility and understanding of the power of nature."

#

This is a lie, we use that day to smoke weed cause it sounds like Joint, Canuto

quartz magnet
frozen bluff
small berry
#

Been a tradition for at least 50 years plus, cops just stay out of the plaza, I was trying to research but nothing much is explained

humble parrot
small berry
#

Interesting how we might have grabbed this festivity to the norse king and made it into a hippie festival cause it sounds like joint

quartz magnet
#

we need Viktor to study the effect of catnip on cat pals

humble parrot
#

Indeed

#

Now I go, I am making pizza today

quartz magnet
#

i want some harapeko

peak folio
humble parrot
quartz magnet
#

im broke broke GuraDinoSit

peak folio
quartz magnet
#

been eating plain rice for days

frozen bluff
quartz magnet
frozen bluff
peak folio
simple pagoda
simple pagoda
#

I eat carpets

hearty sonnet
frozen bluff
#

Huh... I kinda dig that emoji

peak folio
#

✂️

frozen bluff
#

Might make it part of my name

hearty sonnet
#

I think a Hammer/Sickle combo would be a great melee weapon choice

small berry
#

surprised it's not an option in any game that I know of just for the memes

#

not in chivalry, mordhau or mount and blade

hearty sonnet
#

I think I saw a Hammer/Sickle in a trailer, but I never saw it

#

There's also Horses with Gas Masks haha

hollow tree
peak folio
hearty sonnet
hearty sonnet
hearty sonnet
#

That friggin intro to the show lol

night plume
#

Idk how you couldn't adore Bill Nye xD

peak folio
#

fr fr

peak folio
#

kaboom
🌨️

#

Random thought, they should add dog drift to canid mounts.

simple pagoda
#

I hate the dotserve domains

#

trash service, doesn't even work

#

their domain forwarding hasn't been working for 24hrs on my sites

queen vale
#

What's it meant to be?

simple pagoda
peak folio
#

maybe they want to charge you per subdomain now

queen vale
#

Ah I see

simple pagoda
peak folio
#

Phil Spencer, save xbox

#

Maybe they’ll announce their next XBox because MS is like “screw this gen”

small berry
#

This channel is now cursed by the cat spell

sick flame
peak folio
#

Playstation horse

#

I don’t think Playstation is so disappointed with the result so much as the path it got there.

sick flame
#

It's hard to say, in recent years Playstation hasn't been doing too well with marketing,

simple pagoda
#

don't ever buy .tech domains

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trash domain, trash dashboard

peak folio
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Not sure the tld has anything to do with your dashboard.

simple pagoda
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it does

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to use any of their forwarding, even the email you gotta use their name servers

peak folio
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What registrar are you using?

simple pagoda
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rn cloudflare

peak folio
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reee

simple pagoda
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the .tech domain is dotserve

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I configured apache2 to route everything and dotserve wasn't allowing domain forwarding

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meanwhile when I bought a domain off cloudflare, it was working in 2 seconds

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the odd thing is the domain I bought was 10$ on cloudflare but 30$ on namecheap

hearty sonnet
simple pagoda
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yeah, misleading

peak folio
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Namecheap used to be ENOM eons ago

hearty sonnet
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Heat Seeking Meowssile

peak folio
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Actually I might have to review what happened with that.

hearty sonnet
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I just saved a bees life, and saved one of my cats from being stung lol

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Four of them were going after it

cyan acorn
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Drake or Kendrick

hearty sonnet
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Lil bro exploded

peak folio
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Lil bro had it coming

peak folio
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Chill8

humble parrot
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In the center of that, Chillet is biting it's tail

zenith lark
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7 Days to Die is pretty fun, but playing it solo is kind of tedious. You have to juggle everything by yourself and gathering materials for steel is slow going at first.

small berry
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plus the game itself is pretty wonky

peak folio
tough comet
humble parrot
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Pizza is done!

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Took a while because of the rainy season

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The dough took a lot longer to grow

peak folio
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Doesn’t rain make wheat grow faster?

humble parrot
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Took much longer than in the windy/dry season

night plume
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I do get bored alone on 7dtd. I usually choose food and farming skills first. These work best for me for survivability.

night plume
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Never have those door handles, got it.

nocturne cedar
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Is steam xbox cross play out yet?

quartz magnet
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no

humble parrot
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God

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This was the best pizza I've made so far

full mountain
# next kayak Not misusing... A bandaid fix is a temporary solution without dealing with the r...

"real problem" for most people, it was just the PSN account linking that was the issue, none of this "big picture" stuff. So I disagree, I don't think it was a bandaid fix, it was a full on reversal. Now, it's totally okay to still be mad with Sony, cuz fuck Sony, but idk why people returning to the game after they fully listened to the community is a bad thing, if anything it conditions them that not fucking with community = big money

quartz magnet
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bacon FernStare

humble parrot
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Yup

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Ham and Bacon this time

quartz magnet
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its looks pretty good!

night plume
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It looks good

humble parrot
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It was harapeko

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Thank you

small berry
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lacks green olives

peak folio
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needs pineapple

peak folio
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pizza thief

small berry
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my cat doesn't eat human food

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why are these cats trying to eat human food

humble parrot
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My cat only eats tuna, don't like meats much and hates chicken

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Mostly only eats his kibble

small berry
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kibble and random houseplants he can't stop munchin on

undone osprey
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For each of every cat, i once have a cat that crazy for cake...

humble parrot
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They supposedly can't taste sweet

undone osprey
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🤷‍♂️ they still wants every cake my mom eats,
Now my (different) cat doesn't even like human food, just fish and kibbles

humble parrot
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You're too late, it's gone

fallen heron
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I hope the devs are paying attention to what Sony did to helldivers

humble parrot
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Why

fallen heron
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121 countries can now not play helldivers anymore cuz Sony is requiring log in and creation of ps accounts

quartz magnet
humble parrot
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Okay, but what does that have to do with them?

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They are self-published.

quartz magnet
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sir, this pocketpair server, not helldivers

hollow tree
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Easy mistake

humble parrot
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So there's no Sony or Microsoft to push them around.

hollow tree
full mountain
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Yeah wat

humble parrot
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On legal contract

hollow tree
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People posting rage bait for the sake of it

full mountain
fallen heron
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I thought they stated they were in the works with PS

humble parrot
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No?

quartz magnet
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where

humble parrot
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There's no PS version announced anywhere.

fallen heron
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To put Palworld on PS

hollow tree
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Nope

full mountain
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Nooooo, at least not yet

quartz magnet
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the source is twitter? Anubis

nimble spire
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So the helldivers Steam division won against the wrath of Sony?

fallen heron
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Ok good

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No

hollow tree
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Sort of

humble parrot
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Also, in Arrowhead's case, Sony is their publisher so

fallen heron
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Steam is giving refunds to people with hundreds of hours

humble parrot
hollow tree
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You can now get refunds regardless of hours played and they’re in talks with PlayStation to try and fix it

quartz magnet
icy pecan
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They are not opposed to put palworld on different platforms that has been said but no other platform has been singled out yet