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[void kelp]

he will Never find it 🗣️ 📢 💯 🔥 🔥

[raw orchid]

I don't get what you're referring to tbh

more specificly?

specifically*

[pearl fractal]

This one is anass

[void kelp]

duty like where u ask any way towards pripyat and he says we still sending out scouts but nothing yet

[raw orchid]

I do have Shulga's dialogue where he says that he won't send more Dutyers for "suicide" mission

[urban coral]

Basically literally what I'm saying. Duty keeping an eye out for any way to reach Pripyat

[void kelp]

YOU DONT HAVE IT

[void kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-12629347036627000898

We did it boys

[void kelp]

Go ask any dutyer right before pripyat 1 mission

let me find dialog in game files hoolup

[urban coral]

[raw orchid]

I only have just 1 dialogue about that

[urban coral]

Nope

It's the question about a way to reach Pripyat

[void kelp]

exactly

i got it wait

[raw orchid]

don't have it then

[void kelp]

gg ez wp just wait i second

[urban coral]

Knew Matt wouldn't have that one

[raw orchid]

I only have dialogues of different NPCs suggesting who should Degtyarev take in his trip

[void kelp]

FOUND IT

there she is

[raw orchid]

interesting

[void kelp]

see i knew i wasnt crazy

smh fake stalker fan

[raw orchid]

rude

[void kelp]

what do you Mean you dont have absolutely every last dialog saved??????

[void kelp]

sarcasm

[raw orchid]

I honestly never seen that 1

gotta admit

[void kelp]

also why screenshot every dialog when you can search through literally 3 xml files with Absolutely every dialog

[void kelp]

ill show you ingame example hold up

[raw orchid]

I just prefer screenshots is all

[steel sapphire]

I try

[void kelp]

wait

why dont you label the screenshots by their ingame file labels

[urban coral]

And I just remember them

[void kelp]

so you can use the xml files to search and once you have the exact dialog you can just look it up

[void kelp]

theres thousands 🗿

[urban coral]

Yes

[pearl fractal]

Harder then! Make sure you use channels properly.

[raw orchid]

@void kelp I do it like that

[carmine badge]

I just wanted you to know, I'm Psi, check my X. I'm a big stalker fan.

[urban coral]

Yes, we know

[void kelp]

then just search for the ones you are missing and complete

[raw orchid]

it takes time as I manage to find new and new dialogues in every new playthrough

[void kelp]

no i dont mean like keep replaying and replaying

Make a list of all dialogs

[urban coral]

Although you've never sided with Duty in CoP yet

[steel sapphire]

SIR YES SIR

[void kelp]

Remove dialogs you already got

find the rest

[raw orchid]

never

I'd rather just add new ones too

[steel sapphire]

@pearl fractal shall I hurt dogs in master degree?

[raw orchid]

rather than removing older ones

[void kelp]

?

thats not what i mean bruh remove the ones you have from the List of all dialogs

[pearl fractal]

What ?

[steel sapphire]

You asked me hurt dogs in rostok

in master difficulty

[urban coral]

We only just need to find the rarest of dialogues

Those even I haven't seen in-game yet

The Faction Wars

[void kelp]

wdym we

oh wait you do the same thing dont you

[carmine badge]

Anyone got a low down on what we can expect from stalker 2 map?
And like what the a-life and faction system is going to be like

[dim perch]

Big

[void kelp]

big complex and you cant just shoot people anymore for no reason 😢

[carmine badge]

Like all the levels from the original trilogy or I image some might be left for expansions

[raw orchid]

here's the map but I have my doubts about it tbh

cuz it could just be created by some random stalker

[carmine badge]

How so?

[raw orchid]

and therefore it may not be entirely accurate

[urban coral]

I used to be the Matt before Matt was here, except I just remembered most stuff

[raw orchid]

but ig time will tell

[pearl fractal]

Hunt* and yes

[void kelp]

u shoot people, eveyrone else in that faction shoot u

[pearl fractal]

It's mostly right, except for some locations within some areas

It's clearly unfinished too

[carmine badge]

Yeah you become an enemy, wasn't it always like that? Or you had to shoot a certain number

[pearl fractal]

So, that might make sense

[void kelp]

only in clear sky i and i forgot in soc

[raw orchid]

which game are we talking about exactly?

In CoP all bandits are neutral towards you for example, in Clear Sky as well (in the beginning at least)

[void kelp]

but in call of pripyat you can wipe out every last mf in jupiter and no faction will become an enemy to you

very fun shooting anyone on sight because i have an SVD and too many bullets

[carmine badge]

Bandits are bandits, just like stalkers are stalkers, nomads

[raw orchid]

in SoC all bandits by default are hostile

same wtih mercs in SoC. all of them are hostile towards you, in Clear Sky only Dark Valley mercs are enemies

[carmine badge]

if anything sounds like it's going to create more interesting faction wars

[raw orchid]

Leshiy, Hog and their random mercs are neutral

[void kelp]

what

[void kelp]

yeah

[urban coral]

I mean, there are still Stalker communities around, so I wouldn't necessarily call them nomads

[carmine badge]

weren't stalkers just individuals?
Ok bandits were a factions, and genrally just war mongering

[urban coral]

Loners are individuals

As the name implies

[void kelp]

but every faction is factionized

idk if mercenary is a factionized faction

[urban coral]

But Free Stalkers are basically groups

[void kelp]

some mercenarys are friends some are foes

its like they shoot you depending on their client

[raw orchid]

it honestly could be considered as a faction for many reasons. first reason is that description of their suit in SoC refers to them as actual faction

[carmine badge]

It's been age since I played, whats a good mod that doesn't change much, other than quality of life and graphical

[raw orchid]

"Merc faction" term is actually used

[void kelp]

No no im saying its a faction stop tryna argue man

[urban coral]

They are a faction

[void kelp]

but not all mercs have the same client

[urban coral]

Why else do they have the same patch?

[void kelp]

for example scientist bunker mercs and the crawfish one in zaton are friendly

but ones in pripyat are not

[urban coral]

It's just that they're wildly different in psychology

[void kelp]

im saying

they are only hostile towards you if thats their job

[raw orchid]

CoP mercs are in cahoots with eachother. Even Hatched before him and his guys went rogue

[void kelp]

if they have no business with you they got no beef

if they have orders to shoot every soul theyll shoot you too

[coarse rapids]

they are known to be awful killers who have miriad of problems with Loners

[void kelp]

again, only if thats their job

[coarse rapids]

[void kelp]

think about it

[coarse rapids]

no, this is their characterization

[urban coral]

Limansk exists as well and we know the Mercs in SoC technically control the area leading towards the Red Forest, thus returning to my theory that that general area is Merc territory

[void kelp]

ive never been hostile to a mercenary for no lore reason

same thing for neutral mercenarys

[raw orchid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgpCxBQ5QIU

[carmine badge]

I think often the term faction might have been used for gameplay simplicity, just to making it easy to distinguish alliegances, when in actual lore its not so clear cut

[void kelp]

explain friendly mercs bro

[raw orchid]

mercs are more like professional bandits tbh

[void kelp]

they are Literally proffesional bandits

[raw orchid]

ye

[void kelp]

yeah for example all loners are technically in the same faction

[raw orchid]

although moralitywise, not all mercs are pure evil

[urban coral]

They do deal a lot together

[raw orchid]

you have mercs like Hog who saved other people

such as Freedomer Kostyan

[void kelp]

its better to think of mercs as literal mercenarys

[carmine badge]

But they don't defend one another, it's more of a categorisation, so one knows their expected behaviour

[void kelp]

mini pmcs for hire

they are only related by job title

[urban coral]

I feel like the developers kinda changed this over the games, but I don't see Loners = all regular Stalkers

[void kelp]

that makes more sense to me even though i know they have their own hidden base and stuff

[void kelp]

yeah exactly

[raw orchid]

interesting thing to note here is that this dialogue here heavily implies that some mercs actually used to be stalkers. last line

[urban coral]

In my eyes

Loners = Loners
Neutrals = Neutrals
Free Stalkers= Free Stalkers

They're all different

[void kelp]

but like they are tho

[carmine badge]

So one probably has to determine it on the individual basis, which just adds more depth and immersion

[void kelp]

difference between loner and free stalker?

[void kelp]

yeah

i wonder if i can get 2 merc squads to fight

[coarse rapids]

explain frendly bandits bro

[void kelp]

eg if i spawn in hermit into pripyat

[carmine badge]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Free_stalkers
Free stalkers seems like a catch all term

[coarse rapids]

Loner is a term for any stalker that is unaffiliated

[void kelp]

friendly bandits? whats there to explain they have no business with you if you arent affiliated with an enemy faction

[urban coral]

Loners are obviously lone wolves, as the name implies. Free Stalkers are just regular Stalkers. Anyone who's on their own, including the protagonists, are Loners

[raw orchid]

stalkers who aren't part of any faction >games still consider them as faction

painful

[carmine badge]

So there are free stalkers, who are basically individuals

[void kelp]

m8 we discussed this topic

[coarse rapids]

Bandits are always hostile against Loners, and Mercenaries are Highly aggressive towards other factions, they arent a "if we aint got beef its fine"

[void kelp]

bruh just leave it be it makes no sense

[urban coral]

It makes too much sense and it gave you brainhurt?

[void kelp]

you proved the if you aint got beef its fine point bro

loner is a proper faction in cs

[carmine badge]

You gotta separate it from the game design, it's probably there for sevral reasons.
To make it easy for players to identify motives.
And easier in code than having to create a whole new faction

[void kelp]

you can join them and everything

[coarse rapids]

how, Bandits literally assault you even if you aint got beef with them and throw you around

[void kelp]

as you said mercenarys are aggressive towards other factions

[dim perch]

That's just a group of loners who hate bandits

[carmine badge]

based

[void kelp]

Yeah even if neutral. Because they are Bandits.

[coarse rapids]

bc they are

[void kelp]

yeah

Also not all bandits kill all loners

[urban coral]

Actually, the CS term would be "Neutrals", because they're hostile towards Bandits (Yes, the name makes no sense whatsoever)

[raw orchid]

no they aren't. not literally every loner is under leadership of Valerian. Agroprom loners have Orest, their own leader

[coarse rapids]

so now they arent all "peace and cooperation"

[raw orchid]

Valerians group only operates at the Garbage and at Cordon

[void kelp]

the loner leader guy talks about how they used to pay fares to go to the garbage

[void kelp]

i never said that

[steel sapphire]

hi sim

vasim

[void kelp]

bruh i aint said that im saying bandits can Rob you but not out of spite or hostility

[coarse rapids]

but you still think that bandits and mercs dont have issues and live peacefully if they dont have beef which is untrue

[void kelp]

i know bro

[coarse rapids]

Mercs are hostile against all other factions

[carmine badge]

Because they're loners, and not a faction, therefore the bandits respond on whether or not the individual is a threat
The term faction is likely used just to bundle them under one label

[void kelp]

im talking about the proper faction of cordon loners

[void kelp]

yeah

[coarse rapids]

they arent classified as a faction

they are at most a clan

[void kelp]

???

[dim perch]

Group of guys who don't like bandits

[urban coral]

Well, it's more like everyone's uneasy with the Mercs, but Duty is openly hostile towards them

[void kelp]

they dont have issues with whoever they dont have issues with

[steel sapphire]

hi johnaton carpet

[urban coral]

Funnily enough called "Neutrals"

[void kelp]

they dont live peacefully, they shoot all that oposes them

[void kelp]

wassup

[steel sapphire]

good

[urban coral]

Renegades

[void kelp]

Bro who put this 10 second delay this is incredibly annoying

[coarse rapids]

for a faction to be made you need a big ammounr of people and influnce, while the Loner Clan in CS is small and has basically no influence, it isnt seen after the game either
it is a tenuous allience made on the spot not an actual Faction with ideology

[void kelp]

renegades are a different faction alltogether

[raw orchid]

^

its basically an alliance

[steel sapphire]

To avoid spam

[raw orchid]

made because situation demanded it

[coarse rapids]

sup

[void kelp]

evidence?

[carmine badge]

Yeah, as far as I remeber, there was only.
Duty & Freedom who were organised factions.
The rest were not so clear cut.

[coarse rapids]

the fucking dialogue????

[urban coral]

You just described Renegades

[void kelp]

bro i'm actually having 3 conversations right now i cant talk to all

[void kelp]

no where does it say its a Clan and not a faction

[steel sapphire]

Why open convos

[dim perch]

Nuh uh

[carmine badge]

Yes the military counts as a faction in game design, but they're just the military with their own motives

[dim perch]

Talk to all and have a good time

[void kelp]

and doesnt the cordon leader say something like welcome to our faction

[void kelp]

true You are correct

so?

[urban coral]

Yeah, because they're Neutrals

[steel sapphire]

Renegades are just existing clear sky bandits

[raw orchid]

its literally a temporarily alliance

created only because situation demanded it

[coarse rapids]

it is clear by dialogue that this allience was made in the spur of the moment and that they are not equipped or well woven together to represent an entire faction, to have an entire faction you need various clans and groups working together under one banner and ideology, which isnt the case in the Loner Clan in CS
either that or you say that the Strelok Group is a faction because they were a group with a goal

[void kelp]

clear sky bandits are a completely different faction

[raw orchid]

stalkers who are deeper into the Zone don't even mention Valerian

[steel sapphire]

I meant they raid clear sky faction

[urban coral]

Neutrals are the Free Stalkers who hate Bandits and Military. Even Bes refers to his group as Neutral (The name still doesn't make sense)

[void kelp]

how does that prove its not a faction. it may be a loose faction

[void kelp]

how come you can join them as a faction

[urban coral]

Geez, we already explained lmfao

[coarse rapids]

how come you can join a group? do you even hear yourself

[void kelp]

bro wait

[raw orchid]

it's not a proper faction. Duty, Freedom would be proper factions as they have recruitment, 1 leader, ideology etc. same doesn't apply to Clear Sky loners

[coarse rapids]

I want you, to seriously, mull it over your own head, how that rebutes my point

[raw orchid]

neither do they have just 1 leader nor do they have ideology like Duty and Freedom

[urban coral]

@raw orchid
Notice his usage of ? Take notes

[void kelp]

how come they got a faction war if they aint a faction 🤨

[urban coral]

Bro...

[raw orchid]

"Zombified" is also a faction gameplaywise

do you consider it as actual faction too?

[coarse rapids]

why are ppl fighting? are you kidding me?

[raw orchid]

[void kelp]

its called Faction war

[coarse rapids]

bruh you dumb as hell

[void kelp]

whatever man

what point does them being or not being a faction prove or disprove again

[raw orchid]

just because gameplaywise game considers something as faction doesn't mean it is lorewise

[void kelp]

because that was 1000 messages ago and i forgor

[raw orchid]

"Trader" isn't a faction

neither is "Zombified"

[void kelp]

i know

[urban coral]

Because Loners = Loners, Neutrals = Neutrals and Free Stalkers = Free Stalkers

[coarse rapids]

this is circumstantial at best and at worst, pedantic, it doesnt disprove anything youre just grasping at straws because you cant actually refute any of the points we made

[urban coral]

I'd honestly prefer Neutral Stalkers and Free Stalkers' names were switched around

[void kelp]

bro whatever

idgaf if they are a clan or a faction or a country

[void kelp]

so you are saying

[urban coral]

They're probably a nation, tbh

[carmine badge]

When you see faction written on the hud of the pda, that is likely just to make it clear to the player, so they are able to determine the behaviour of the npcs under that label.
You have to determine the factions by the lore, and seprate it from gameplay design choices. It makes a much more interesting world tbh

[coarse rapids]

they are a coutnryu

[void kelp]

free stalkers are Different from loners

[coarse rapids]

they are a cult actually

[void kelp]

are Different from neutral stalkers

[coarse rapids]

they rever the STOC Autists

[urban coral]

Yes

[urban coral]

Yes

[coarse rapids]

we have a bunch of them, their power is enuff to spin the world around and give energy to the servo motors in everyones heads

[void kelp]

can you explain again? you just repeated the same thing earlier

[raw orchid]

in the lore many "factions" aren't even factions. only actual factions would be Duty, Freedom, Clear Sky, Monolith and Mercenaries

[void kelp]

there are others but go on

[urban coral]

Loners are lone wolves, Free Stalkers are regular Stalkers and Neutral Stalkers are hostile towards Bandits

[raw orchid]

those aren't proper ones tho

[coarse rapids]

like what

[raw orchid]

bandits for example literally fight themselves

[urban coral]

At least, it's depicted like that in the games, but I'm not sure if it's actually GSC's intentions

[urban coral]

Because Neutral sounds very ironic

[void kelp]

so lone wolvers are 100% lonely, regular stalkers are whatever, small groups sometimes, chill around, and Neutral stalkers are specifically the group put together by valerian

[raw orchid]

loners aren't intended to represent a proper faction as well

[void kelp]

renegades bandits

[urban coral]

And Bes, yes

[void kelp]

uhh i feel like im missing someone idk

[raw orchid]

There is no such thing as the 'Loner Faction' or the 'Bandit Faction' in the lore; there simply are free stalkers and bandits.

[coarse rapids]

bandits arent a cohesive and well put together group, their gangs often fight each other and undermine each other, Renegades are not a faction

[carmine badge]

Thats pretty much it.
The ecologists, are just a bunch of sciensts in the zone trying to learn more about it.

[coarse rapids]

they are a gang

[void kelp]

so if theres only 1 stalker he's a loner, but if he has a buddy they are free stalkers

[raw orchid]

besides its not like all bandits are under 1 leader or have proper recruitment

[urban coral]

How I see it, yes

[void kelp]

well they have and you can join them in cs atleast

[void kelp]

how are renegades not a faction? in the swamps they run around and take territory and fight etc

[raw orchid]

Renegades also isn't really a faction because term "Renegade" itself refers to broadly understood traitors, it can be assumed that the Zone's renegades are also traitorous members of factions and various stalkers who became outcasts as a result of their disloyal actions

[void kelp]

then why make the distinction at all?

[carmine badge]

the Loners in SoC aren't really a faction, but in CS and CoP, lore wise they've evolved into an organised faction. So I guess it does change

[void kelp]

and why call them neutral stalkers as a seperate group, after all All stalkers are neutral

[urban coral]

Notice btw how CoP changed their name from "Loner" to "Stalkers", while Degtyarev is a "Free Stalker"

[coarse rapids]

same reason bandits or the CS Clan arent a faction, they arent a faction because they arent a group with a cohesive ideology nor sufficient influence or backing, so much so they are forgotten, they are a gang of rejects

also

[raw orchid]

1 dialogue in CS even implies that

[coarse rapids]

Loners are Loners

[urban coral]

Because Neutrals are hostile towards Bandits

[coarse rapids]

thats it

[void kelp]

just because they are called renegades doesnt mean they are literally renegades. Outcasts that united

[coarse rapids]

there is no distinction to be made around Loners and Free Stalkers, Loners are every stalker that doesnt have faction affiliation

[void kelp]

all nonaffiliated stalkers are hostile towards bandits

[void kelp]

true

[coarse rapids]

you can be in a group and still be a loner unless that group is in a faction

[raw orchid]

this dialogue implies that they are @void kelp

[coarse rapids]

Lore shoudlnt really be mandated by engine limitations of CS

[urban coral]

Yeah, because of CS logic being applied to CoP, but how come they're not hostile towards you?

[raw orchid]

"renegades of every kind"

[raw orchid]

^

[void kelp]

yet again as i said they take territory, attack lost positions, and there is a specific faction war

[void kelp]

because im not a bandit?

[urban coral]

Besides, look at CS, the Bandits aren't directly hostile towards you nor the Diggers, although that's before you follow their questline

[void kelp]

and if i becamse a bandit in cs, they would be hostile right?

[raw orchid]

lore and gameplay are 2 different things. I can tell you hundreds of examples but one of the biggest ones would be the fact that you can find anabiotics in X8 in CoP. how?

[coarse rapids]

you contrive a pedantic argument because you cant refute the lore reasons we put forward, just because a group participates in the war system, it doesnt mean they are a faction

[urban coral]

But you are a Free Stalker, so why aren't they hostile?

[void kelp]

im saying thats not a pedantic arguement, Why cant you factor in gameplay to lore

[coarse rapids]

its like saying that Zombies are a faction bc it says so in the games systems

its on the same pedastal

[void kelp]

not everything makes sense ofcourse

[void kelp]

absoloutely not. Zombies dont take territory and fight to regain lost territory

[void kelp]

idk man it says mercenary last time i checked

[coarse rapids]

you are contriving a engine limitation to how information is displayed to try and refute lore arguments

same shit

diff toilet

[void kelp]

in Soc they are automatically hostile and you are a free stalker

[urban coral]

Because it was in reference to Fallout 4's Jet in Vaults thingy

[raw orchid]

real?

[urban coral]

Ah yes, Mercenary Degtyarev

[void kelp]

Engine limitation????? BRO explain what i said and dont just dismiss it

[raw orchid]

term "faction" is never used on bandits for example, or on scientists, renegades etc

[void kelp]

degtaryev is neutral towards bandits and they are too, im talkinga bout clear sky\

[urban coral]

No, Fallout 4 was released much later

[raw orchid]

while trilogy refers to Duty, Freedom and even Mercs as factions

[coarse rapids]

you contrive that Renegades and the Loner Clan MUST be a faction since it participates in the war system which just isnt true, neither are the bandits a cohesive faction

[raw orchid]

no such thing in the lore as "Trader faction" or "Zombified faction" either

just traders and zombies

[void kelp]

Loners sure they arent a faction

[urban coral]

And I'm not

[void kelp]

But gameplay wise, arent renegades a faction

[carmine badge]

does anyone know what the multiplayer is going to be like?
I'm Psi btw

[raw orchid]

gameplaywise yes

[void kelp]

me neither, bruh but they dont know that

[urban coral]

Yes, we still know you're Psi

[raw orchid]

but gameplaywise even zombified is a faction

[void kelp]

i mean dont they walk talk and act like a faction

[coarse rapids]

in the back, so are the zombies, traders, and mutants a faction, but this shouldnt have any effect on lore

you yourself said it

[void kelp]

in a way that zombies dont

in a way that zombies dont

[carmine badge]

is it going to be like tdm stuff or more free roam style

[coarse rapids]

why are you pick and choosing what is and isnt effectively lore mattering

[void kelp]

Why are you

you are dismissing gameplay

whatever bruh idc

[coarse rapids]

Mutants participate in the war system, they take territory and kill other factions, are they a faction? surely

by your logic

[void kelp]

they dont come up and back each other n crap bro they are just mutants

[raw orchid]

Only 5 can be seen as proper factions in terms of the lore. The rest are either government organizations that aren't meant to be treated like factions, or loosely tied groups and gangs of stalkers and bandits. There's also a lot of nuances to them in general

[coarse rapids]

they do, at least in the abckend they do, so by your logic, they are a faction

[urban coral]

If Degtyarev is there undercover as a Free Stalkers and the Bandits aren't hostile towards him, that makes sense. After all, the whole point of Bandits is to profit from them, while keeping the Stalker population weak. They're like a fake police that takes all the profits

[void kelp]

idc anymore i feel like we are trying to make sense of lore and gameplay that hasnt been thought 100% through, and due to such conflicting evidences, this arguement is completely useless

im out peace i got sh*t to do bruh

[coarse rapids]

the boars and the dogs are a cohesive faction with motices and a central goal

[raw orchid]

[void kelp]

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[carmine badge]

Sorry I wasn't paying attention, I can't stand heiroglyphics, confusing

[urban coral]

Good luck with said shit, dawg

[coarse rapids]

like I said, you cannot pick and choose which gameplay elements to influence lore, its either EVERY gamepaly element or NONE gameplay element infleuncing lore

[raw orchid]

few arguments can be made about that tho. First is bandits wouldn't know that Deg is undercover, no one knew about it until Deg himself revealed that. Plus bandits and stalkers in CoP literally fight eachother to the death

so they by default are enemies

[coarse rapids]

you cannot say taht Renegades are but Loners and Mutants arent

[raw orchid]

while all bandits except ones at Jupiter building are neutral towards player

[coarse rapids]

Duty is because we can see their influence and how they operate and their numbers in other games however

[urban coral]

That's the point I'm making. Everyone thinks he's a regular Stalker. I feel like them fighting is a remnant of CS, while lore suggests otherwise

[pearl fractal]

It's not about dismissing gameplay. All NPC entities are set within factions in gamerelations system, just to make them behave in a certain way.

They are not factions

[raw orchid]

Deg was also ex stalker tbh. so it'd make sense if he would either hate or strongly dislike bandits

[coarse rapids]

where is it said that Deg is an Ex Stalekr

[raw orchid]

CoP intro, subtitles

[coarse rapids]

show us

[raw orchid]

hold on

[urban coral]

What if Boss is canon, though?

[raw orchid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3jDDnUZno 3:42 @coarse rapids

[urban coral]

Ex-Stalker is canon as heck

[raw orchid]

"Major Degtyarev, a USS special agent and formerly experienced stalker"

[urban coral]

Not even a Veteran or Master smh

[olive flicker]

So Degytarev would be a military stalker

[coarse rapids]

so hes a military stalker

first in the series

[urban coral]

I guess the Military just accepts anyone nowadays

[carmine badge]

I always used to play as a loner, I really liked the music freedom would play and the armour of duty was rad, then theres the monolithians but you could never join them

[urban coral]

Took a while to realize, but you've got it

[raw orchid]

wait I noticed smth

in my intro it said "formerly experienced stalker"

[urban coral]

But yeah, Military Stalker but undercover as not to be hostile towards the Stalker community

[raw orchid]

in video above "a former stalker"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8qNclPdnA in this video it says "Formerly experienced stalker" too

3:30

[olive flicker]

Its crazy all the stuff you realize just from talking about the lore, like I paid attention to everything lore related in the game and did every option for dialogue, but I never connected so many dots until I started talking about the lore

[urban coral]

Always trust the game

[carmine badge]

As a loner i would take my own stance on things, except for bandits I would show no mercy to bandits, and always enjoy clearing them out from a base

[raw orchid]

all my homies hate bandits fr

[void kelp]

pro tip: For perfect salty cucumbers, bore a hole with a glass or metal straight straw straight through the length of a cucumber, and then fill the hole with straight up Brine. let it sit for a bit and pour without washing the leftover brine. Now you have perfectly salted cucumber which tastes like plant meat in a weird way

[urban coral]

Welcome back from doing your shit, dawg

[carmine badge]

There are only a few places one can obtain trusted lore, following the wiki
Also X are still horror kino

[void kelp]

i made an extremely salty cucumber

[raw orchid]

"Trust" and "Wiki" shouldn't even be put together in the same sentance

do your own research

[void kelp]

is nice 👍🏻

[raw orchid]

EN Wiki is far from accurate when it comes to the lore

for example EN Wiki says that Strelok is one of the first stalkers

[urban coral]

I mean, kinda? They are ironically better police than Duty, but also way more unreasonable

[raw orchid]

meanwhile trilogy never told us when he actually entered the Zone

[void kelp]

i can literally breath while eating it its great

[urban coral]

Never trust the wiki, just trust us and the games

[raw orchid]

there are other misconceptions that can be caused by EN Wiki but that'll be a long topic

[carmine badge]

80% of the lore on wiki is right, just like the news panel

[void kelp]

bro that makes it really unreliable actually

[urban coral]

I wouldn't trust it either way

[void kelp]

think about it, what topics is it most likely to get wrong? Contreversial topics. Which will make up nearly all of the 20%. Therefore the wiki should never be used for lore discussions

[raw orchid]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Freedom "Freedom was founded by a group of free stalkers, including Chekhov, Lingov, Lukash, and Loki" meanwhile trilogy never said that Loki is one of Freedoms founders. Loki himself admitted that he used to be ex stalker at first, and later joined Freedom

tons of stuff in EN Wiki is simply made up

[urban coral]

And don't even look at the timeline

[carmine badge]

I really like X-Labs, it was a good level

[urban coral]

Ok, neat

Even though they're multiple levels

[plush herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-gif-25182351

[void kelp]

nah i feel like i heard somewhere about loki being cofounder tho and Not form the wiki

[raw orchid]

he isn't tho

check dialogue I sent above

[void kelp]

says who

oh yeah that

[raw orchid]

he used to be ex stalker first

and then joined Freedom

[carmine badge]

I said labs

[raw orchid]

not a word about him being Freedom founder

trilogy never told us that Lukash is one of the Freedom founders as well

[void kelp]

could have joined freedom whilst it was being founded eg when freedom was looking for its very first members 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dim perch]

And a level

[raw orchid]

point is that Freedom was already created when he joined

so that by default would exclude any possibility of Loki being one of its founders

[urban coral]

You said "level"

[void kelp]

m8 its extremely obvious he misspoke

[urban coral]

I know

[raw orchid]

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Mercenaries "It is suggested that the Mercs' primary employer are the Ecologists" literally when? Hog was hired by 1 "big shot" from outside world

[void kelp]

Oh my god bruh

[raw orchid]

and Leshiy was hired by large corporation

not even any implication that CS mercs were hired by ecologists

[urban coral]

Don't worry, we'll fix it one day

[void kelp]

mfw multiple employers

🗿

[carmine badge]

Whenever there was a blowout in the zone (I played oblivion lost), I enjoyed the tension of having to run to a shelter, sometimes having to battle my way past mutants and compete with shelter with other stalkers. The blow outs always kind of felt like the apocalpse, and it would bring four mutant horses pulling a chariot carrying some zone abomination

[raw orchid]

even in that case why would ecologist want to destroy the Zone? there aren't any implications of that anywhere

[urban coral]

But uh, have you played the Trilogy?

[void kelp]

wdym

[raw orchid]

and Chekhov thinks that Dark Valley mercs got hired either by duty or by military

I meant Freedom*

sorry, misspoke a bit

[urban coral]

While there is also the implication of them being hired by Bandits

[carmine badge]

I played all three, have the original collectors editions still, check my ig

[urban coral]

They do have the cash, after all

[raw orchid]

but yeah there are no implications of mercs in CS hired by ecologists

[urban coral]

Based, same for SoC

[raw orchid]

stuff like that is why I don't trust Wiki at all

[void kelp]

i wanna be a merc but just

[urban coral]

Just get all your lore from the games

[carmine badge]

wiki is full of wookies, such is life in the zone

[void kelp]

no employer

ideal life is retiring to a beautiful beachside pripyat abandoned resort

[urban coral]

So uh, basically a Mercenary Scar type beat

[void kelp]

living around for 5 years and being a tiny side character to the main character

and then eventually dying from cancer because i forgot where i put my bubble for 5 years!

occasionally sniping zombies would be fun

[carmine badge]

I used to save my ru in stalker, in fact I got the wish granter ending where you save enough.
Though when I am staying in a bunker with bandits, and there aren't any missions avaliable, one has to make their own quests

[void kelp]

Bascially Zulu

[raw orchid]

@urban coral who do you think actually hired those mercs at the Dark Valley? couldn't have been Duty due to this dialogue

[urban coral]

Agreed, I suspect Bandits

[raw orchid]

that would make a lot of sense

[urban coral]

After all, it's hinted at in multiple dialogues and I believe even Freedom talks about it

And the Bandits obviously have the money, seen how employing Mercs takes "a king's ransom", something the Bandits have thanks to the goldrush at the Garbage

[raw orchid]

good points

[pearl spear]

?

[carmine badge]

There have been some dark nights holding out in ruined abandoned bunkers, hearing the screams of bloodsuckers behind the walls, blind dogs scratching at doors.
They don't want you to leave, they prevent you from getting quests, so thank the wishgranter i saved my rubles, and decided to write my experiences and understanding of the zone.

[raw orchid]

nah Clear Sky had other goals, plus their ideology is similar to Freedom

both think that Zone is a wonder of humanity

and Chekhov and Lebedev & some CS members mention coexistance with it

[pearl spear]

maybe the mercenaries

[raw orchid]

them being hired by bandits would make a lot of sense

[carmine badge]

I sold some of my journal to a member of clear sky in 100 rads bar, but it was only a few pages, there is much more still not seen

[pearl spear]

there is tangible evidence somewhere, clues?

[raw orchid]

even Yoga mentioned changing the base

[raw orchid]

bandits in CS were planning to take over Dark Valley. hinted in dialogues

1 sec

[void kelp]

@raw orchid promised screenshots (i switched desktops and found stalker open and i was like "ohhh yeah")

[raw orchid]

and even Yoga doesn't seem to be against relocation

[carmine badge]

I used to have a good time as a member of freedom, i completed quests they paid me for it, but the leader of freedom turned mad and exiled me.
So I went around fellow loners and amassed a league just stalkers who want the zone destroyed, and well, freedom and dead, and the ecologists have confirmed their madness

[raw orchid]

there are also some bandits that were in the Dark Valley. Ganja's sidequest

[urban coral]

I believe there's even a Freedomer who mentions that their commander sold them out to the Bandits or something

Can't find it, though

[raw orchid]

Aye, I got that one hold on

[urban coral]

Yup

So yeah, that's why I'm thinking it's Bandits

Would love to see the two interact more with each other, tbh

[carmine badge]

there are many rumours and myths in the zone, all that matters is the end to the madness is in sight

[raw orchid]

but Commandant was leaking info to mercs

so it's very weird tbh

[urban coral]

True

[raw orchid]

maybe Freedomers also refer to mercs as "bandits" sort of like how Duty referred to mercs as "marauders" in SoC?

[urban coral]

Perhaps buildo remnant, who knows

[pearl spear]

A question of big money

[urban coral]

Could be, but Freedom refers to them as Mercs too

[carmine badge]

sounds like a bandits tale

[urban coral]

And they're not exactly hostile towards the Mercs, unlike Duty

[pearl spear]

always stressful at Duty

[carmine badge]

when blow outs occured, i would chose one of four books and escape the zone

[pearl spear]

French snaps snake

[carmine badge]

good hunting stalkers

[void kelp]

Why bro be flowing around that randy serpent so smooth bruh

my man Done this before

[wild mulch]

yeah but Duty has base in old research center, makes sense Mercs would give them trouble there

[urban coral]

🤔

[hollow crown]

gm

[carmine badge]

You know, every stalker has a pda, but also bandits, all the bandits can track one stalker because they like to hunt us.
One stalker can have no followers, but all the bandits still follow. This phenomenom in the zone is known as gang stalkers

If i leave the bunker, the bandits inhabiting it shoot in the air and alert all other stalkers, they know my clothing, my armour for the road.
There are no safe places to fish in the zone either. And the vehicle graveyard is overun, I found too many grams and got weighed down their once

I'm just like every other stalker, trying to escape the zone and survive

[carmine badge]

many bandits know me, they have been hunting me with failure, there are mounds of the bodies several times larger than the piles found at garbage
one thing you know is true about the bandits, is they know how to keep a secret

[cunning scaffold]

add legs

🦵

[minor briar]

Is that an snake?

Or an anomaly

[past rampart]

Sticks and stones stalker

[steel sapphire]

@candid cloud razr

[candid cloud]

Damn.

[steel sapphire]

would you race him

[candid cloud]

Since he's a cheater - no.

[steel sapphire]

I would slap his face twice and pop four tires

[candid cloud]

I see.

[steel sapphire]

THIS MF

STOLE OUR BMW M3

[candid cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-reply-discord-reply-off-discord-reply-gif-22150762

[steel sapphire]

oke

Better?

[candid cloud]

Yes.

[pearl fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-have-i-told-you-abraham-quintanilla-ab-quintanilla-selena-the-series-fideo-gif-21073464

[steel sapphire]

I didnt ping this time

I did no ping in reply sir

[pearl fractal]

What is this then

[steel sapphire]

to show that traitors face to reminder

(nfsmw ref)

[pearl fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-dameron-heavy-sigh-star-wars-sigh-sighing-gif-26030273

[steel sapphire]

Okay sire Ill be more careful

[carmine badge]

I realised bread was making me unwell, wasn't helping.
Also having to grief for the death of my family, one parent four siblings, a few others
History of psychosis
I'm 100% stable now I stopped the bread.
I'm probably the hardest stalker out there, the bandits are ants

[cunning scaffold]

@void kelp

[void kelp]

yo

[cunning scaffold]

so, how we will start modding the legs

[void kelp]

aight so

[cunning scaffold]

(for some reason we have moved here)

[void kelp]

heres the ideas i got

Roblox block legs (non articulable), mineraft steve/alex legs, monster legs, casual shorts, legs that change in respect to the suit your wearing (probably already implemented), pants of all different types, sweatpants,

swimming trunks, football shorts and shoes, jordan 4's, floaty legs like rayman

stickman legs, frog legs, bird legs, dog legs, elephant legs,

psuedogiant legs, burer legs with robe, controller pants,

[cunning scaffold]

awesome, i like the idea

[void kelp]

legs attachments: hoveboard roller-skate skateboard longboard surfboard bicycle tricycle clown-mono-wheel-thingy

[cunning scaffold]

I'm taking notes so we can start the** Modding** asap

[void kelp]

bike, treadmill, paddleboat, duck floaty

[cunning scaffold]

can we add a sound in the leg?

[carmine badge]

I love swimming, sadly in Chernobyl all the water is irradiated.

[void kelp]

shoes: jordan 1-newest: nike pandas, white nikes, black nikes, vans, work boots, classy boots, black boots, brown boots, leatherskin boots, short boots, mud boots

[cunning scaffold]

so the shoes will have stats

[void kelp]

crocs, sandals, flip flops, running shoes, high heels, (none) ,

[cunning scaffold]

what about cowboys boots

dont forget them!

[void kelp]

nike with star thing (all colors), travis scott one, lil nas one, skechers, cowboy boots, child's boots, wooden clogs,

[cunning scaffold]

i want the travis scott ones make the character do T pose

[void kelp]

timberjack shoes, kinetix shoes, adidas shoes, adidas tracksuit(pants), puma shoes,

[cunning scaffold]

this **modification ** will be awesome

[void kelp]

back to attachments: cars such as range rover mustang jeep etc

[cunning scaffold]

can the white nikes shoot anomalies?

[void kelp]

buggys, ww1 propellor planes, cesna, boeing 787 dreamliner, c37a whatever galaxy military airplane,

[cunning scaffold]

lets add shoes from The Boys series too

[void kelp]

destroyer ship, battleship, airplane carrier, patrol boat, speed boat, yacht small-large, paddleboat, canoe, italian canoe boat thing,

[rotund horizon]

Coll

[void kelp]

and finally im thinking steel toe modification for when you drop your gun and it lands on your toes

(without it, instant death)

👍🏻

[cunning scaffold]

nice

[rotund horizon]

I've seen Fallout drinks but never a Starfield one

[steel sapphire]

Guess what is that

[rotund horizon]

What

[steel sapphire]

Its chernobyl npp

[rotund horizon]

I wonder If there's a Fallout New Vegas-themed dildo

[rotund horizon]

Damn

[cunning scaffold]

@void kelp lets retexture the clothes in paint

[rotund horizon]

I'm just curious,don't assume me of any activity

[void kelp]

lets make it so that we can have funny tshirts

born to shit forced to wipe

[hollow crown]

@rotund horizon Tomato Town Slurp Juice

[void kelp]

i eat kids

[cunning scaffold]

lets add Sanic T shirts to all main characters of S2

[rotund horizon]

Tf is that

[cunning scaffold]

made in paint

[void kelp]

🔳 single
🔳 taken
✅ S.T.A.L.K.E.R Player

[void kelp]

yes

retexture exosuit to make it look like a weird bug

[hollow crown]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-fortnite-meowscles-slurp-juice-peter-griffin-gif-4306298924419965671

[void kelp]

because thats what it always reminded me of

[void kelp]

how tf is he taller and shorter at the same time look at his head

bro scaled down

[cunning scaffold]

yes

so it will be a very cool optimization mod

[rotund horizon]

I don't get It

[cunning scaffold]

I also want three arms on screen instead of two

[hollow crown]

tomato town slurp juice

[void kelp]

i found a baller shirt decal

[void kelp]

imagine walking up to some random mercenary in kurushovkania and he got this shit on

[hollow crown]

do you wanna drink it

[rotund horizon]

No

[cunning scaffold]

this will be a very good retexture for our main character shirt

[hollow crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-j-wimbleton-hank-madness-combat-madness-combat-gif-15393140150710954638

[cunning scaffold]

i can imagine the mod page already

[pearl fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-punch-markiplier-punch-attack-fight-gif-23206537

[void kelp]

yes

[rotund horizon]

Okuu fumo

Nothing else really

[hollow crown]

now ur drawing OC of yourself

[void kelp]

i believe we should add a "CERTIFIED S.T.A.L.K.E.R" shirt with the picture of one of the developer's house in the background

[rotund horizon]

1.That wasn't drawn by me
2.Okuu isn't an OC

[void kelp]

it would be beauty

[cunning scaffold]

yes

[void kelp]

aight its your job

[cunning scaffold]

we also need to add cammos for weapons (made with paint for windows)

[void kelp]

go find me the developers houses

[void kelp]

thats incredibly easy

i added camo to i think 5 weapons in cop and that took me all of 3 minutes each

[cunning scaffold]

then u made a red one😍

[void kelp]

i did for both SVU and streloks SGI5k

[cunning scaffold]

have you seen dual guns right

[cunning scaffold]

well, we need 3 guns in screen

[void kelp]

what

[void kelp]

what aer you sayihng

[cunning scaffold]

something like this but with 3 guns, like the player has 3 arms

[void kelp]

what even is this

[cunning scaffold]

what🥺

[void kelp]

bro

is this from cod

[cunning scaffold]

i think

[glass bobcat]

Cod mobile

[void kelp]

dam

[neon vale]

Alaskans walking to work

[glass bobcat]

Lmao

I'm in Iceland rn

[cunning scaffold]

can we make a campfire

[glass bobcat]

Lake 500m above the sea level

[carmine badge]

You guys need anymore proofs I'm Psi, it's all on X

[hollow crown]

I love dropping flats of mdma with the Controller

[void kelp]

huhhe

[cunning scaffold]

can we add this custscene

at the intro of S2

[void kelp]

strelok vs whats that guys name

wound?

mark?

[cunning scaffold]

hmmm

[void kelp]

somethin ike that

[cunning scaffold]

yeah i like it

[void kelp]

ahh yes Mr watsthat guisname

[cunning scaffold]

Mr watsthat guisname

he must be the final boss

[neon vale]

Strelok vs john laceration

[void kelp]

yeah

[cunning scaffold]

lets make a custom quest for him

[void kelp]

Not johanothan laceratioN!!!!!!!!!

my worst rival

[void kelp]

make him the side character that gives you the watchamacallit

he sends you to the uhhhhhhh

you gotta retreive thatting

but when you come back he goes totheeuhhh

and then you gotta fight him so you can win his thathingthathehas

[cunning scaffold]

can we copypaste this situation in Cordon in a scripted moment

[void kelp]

yes

i thing we should make a new location called yunowatime taukinabot

[steel sapphire]

I SMASH

GET HEAT

CANT EVADE

[void kelp]

Hello. What's up?

[steel sapphire]

@raw orchid

Im him

[raw orchid]

[steel sapphire]

Im a mfker who drives bac mono on pursuit

[pearl spear]

[void kelp]

why did they shootback like nade shrapnel

[steel sapphire]

@raw orchid shall I race or hit cops

[raw orchid]

why would you hit cops

race

[pearl spear]

The rest fell fail

[candid cloud]

They are only worth hitting, if you want to upgrade the tires or the body.

[void kelp]

What

Just downloaded Sanabi but my laptop was bad and it took like 6 years to load the game so I decided to watch a walkthrough and I am emotionally numb

[simple sage]

phantom.striker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cunning scaffold]

Nfs mw 2012

Very good game, underrated and killed in metacritic

[steel sapphire]

Actually they dumber

nfsmw 2005 cops were nightmare

[pearl spear]

the attachment did not work

[void kelp]

that is immaculate

[glass bobcat]

Damn

[hollow crown]

among us

[pearl fractal]

Marked one!!!

I'm seeing Pings again

What's the meaning of this

[hollow crown]

malibu strawberry n sprite goated combo

[bitter hearth]

nah try dark and white chocolate with cup of dark coffee

[hollow crown]

try hennessy and root beer

[bitter hearth]

i dont drink, but you know what would go hard, banana milkshake

[rotund horizon]

ya

[steel sapphire]

He doesnt mind it

[hollow crown]

are u a

[rotund horizon]

A what ?

[hollow crown]

a

[urban coral]

a

[bitter hearth]

a

[whole sable]

a

[raw orchid]

b

[pearl fractal]

There is a proverb from where I live that says, if your friend is honey, don't lick him whole. It basically means to not press too much on a person's goodwill.

[raw orchid]

@rotund horizon man @hollow crown has a crush on you fr fr

[carmine badge]

Where are the bandits going to shelter from this emission?

[hollow crown]

I have a crush on Abbey

[raw orchid]

You have a crush on a religious building?

[urban coral]

Ooo, Plutonium name reveal

[raw orchid]

[raw orchid]

This definitely makes more sense than this scenario

[urban coral]

PLUTONIUM IS A BUILDING?!

[bitter hearth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/813191423461031948/1100800101695361024/caption-1-1.gif

[wheat rapids]

What have I come back to?

[raw orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nick-cage-nicolas-cage-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-nope-gif-25135473

[urban coral]

Warhammer 40k session, of course

Ngl, I never thought Ultramarines would be so melee-focused

[wheat rapids]

Oh yes speaking of that

[bitter hearth]

crimson i want, i want C&C tiberium wars against you NOW

[urban coral]

I mean, they're good in basically everything and especially good with Stalker Bolt Rifles, but yeah, their characters are all melee-focused

[bitter hearth]

and im NOD lets make that clear

[raw orchid]

"This is my rifle phone. There are many others like it, but this one is mine" @bitter hearth

[bitter hearth]

you can chose GDI or the aliens

[urban coral]

Horus Heresy, based

[wheat rapids]

Imagine being GDI

[raw orchid]

Emission props if you'll get the reference

[urban coral]

Can't, because my account got hacked and EA refuses to help me

[wheat rapids]

Real

[bitter hearth]

give me rifle phone NOW

[raw orchid]

Horus is based. Horus Heresy isn't

[neon vale]

do any one of you US brothers remember arthur

[urban coral]

Having Dark Angels' warcrime division would be pretty sick, tbh

[urban coral]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fist-arthur-憤怒-gif-5794225

[wheat rapids]

Horus's Heresy is BASEST

[urban coral]

No and no

But the game looks based, yeah

At least, way more fluff-oriented that the current 10e

[raw orchid]

You did it Horus Lupercal. You truly are the Horus Heresy

[neon vale]

horus heresy game looks awesome

[raw orchid]

One of the 40k moments of all time

[bitter hearth]

i forgot, but i know it was from a movie

[candid cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/payday-3-pd3-payday-2-hoxton-gif-10977769877745720976

[neon vale]

xeno fans can cope and seethe but i love the idea of a marines only wargame

[raw orchid]

Aye. Can you guess from which 1?

[wheat rapids]

I love these

[urban coral]

I mean, it IS the biggest civil war and one of the biggest historical moments in 40k

[bitter hearth]

you, donacdum you will embarrass us

[bitter hearth]

nah i cant remember

maybe saving private ryan but i dunu

been actual years since i watched movies

[raw orchid]

Full Metal Jacket

[urban coral]

Cornetto Trilogy when?

[urban coral]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-action-drama-war-full-metal-jacket-gif-3475010

[raw orchid]

[wheat rapids]

The HH is an historical wargame confirmed:

[neon vale]

https://tenor.com/view/bootcamp-gomerpyle-privatepyle-zoomin-zoom-gif-23477019

[urban coral]

Obviously

[raw orchid]

I always felt bad for Pyle ngl

[urban coral]

So, how many Dark Angels warcrime units is enough for Horus Heresy?

[wheat rapids]

All of them

IDK

[bitter hearth]

there was a cool game i saw like this

it was like squad

[urban coral]

https://wahapedia.ru/heresy2/factions/legiones-astartes/Dreadwing-Interemptor-Squad

[neon vale]

i wanna try out the game "bolt action"

[wheat rapids]

War of rights?

[candid cloud]

You imbecile! You doomed us all!

[urban coral]

Plasma, my beloved

[wheat rapids]

Or whatever TF it's called

[bitter hearth]

could be, i didnt get its name but it was old times with muskets and like squad

[urban coral]

If only 40k boards were more like this, but I understand it's more open-board

[bitter hearth]

i had those when i was a kid

[wheat rapids]

Honestly it puts me off being a miniature wargame based on it's time period

[bitter hearth]

and then father kept getting guests and those guests had kids and everytime a kid would come theyd snatch one and take it with em

[hollow crown]

Strawberry Banana Milk 0,75Ml Bottle

[raw orchid]

Crimson is this lore accurate?

[neon vale]

yes

[bitter hearth]

are you a fruity man......

[urban coral]

110% accuracte

[neon vale]

its even more accurate for inquisitors

[wheat rapids]

No it's "all of you will die"

[urban coral]

Commisars even shoot their own soldiers if they see them as incompetent

[neon vale]

what for

i like the time accurate wargames

[urban coral]

Their job is to make them loyal and are feared more than the actual enemy itself

[wheat rapids]

Who's collecting the German and BUF figures? I need to know

[raw orchid]

This is gold

[hollow crown]

pineapple pizza

[urban coral]

Crimson Fists, my beloved

Pedro Kantro definitely deserves a resculpt

[raw orchid]

Crime against humanity

[bitter hearth]

send this man to the pigeons

[candid cloud]

Don't you mind repeating that one more time?

[urban coral]

Matt, 40k when?

[raw orchid]

Send this man to Belize

[neon vale]

hop on tabletop simulator warhammer 40k

[bitter hearth]

hop on DnD

[hollow crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-eat-pizza-yunmy-chubangster-love-it-gif-26149601

[raw orchid]

Why'd you say that? Are you a heretic? 👁️

[urban coral]

Real

[neon vale]

i hate ham on pizza

[urban coral]

Although my PC can't even handle that

[raw orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/in-there-out-get-out-get-in-door-gif-9674710657154743176

[candid cloud]

I want you to send me to foreign country.

[urban coral]

I've got the real deal, though

[hollow crown]

I hate pizza ngl

[wheat rapids]

I go...

[raw orchid]

Wtf why

[wheat rapids]

Byi gang

[raw orchid]

Cya man

[bitter hearth]

cya nathan

[raw orchid]

Take care

[urban coral]

Cya later dawg

[bitter hearth]

aint dat africa or somethin

[urban coral]

South America

[neon vale]

i ate at tanzanian restaurant today

that shit was so good $50 usd felt like a low price

[urban coral]

Wait Matt, I forgot, what was your favorite faction?

[raw orchid]

Yeah man I gotta rewatch 40k lore videos and reread Wiki pages

[raw orchid]

I forgot some stuff

[bitter hearth]

im fasting😔

[urban coral]

Ultramarines page 💀

[neon vale]

isnt ramadan over

[bitter hearth]

doctor

[neon vale]

oh

[bitter hearth]

plus its good to do sometimes, more liked during monday and thursday

[urban coral]

Or forgor? 💀

[neon vale]

out of all places i would move to, uruguay and equador are decently high on that list

what about georgia

[raw orchid]

Ultramarines, Imperial Guard and Orks

[urban coral]

Bro, why the smurfs?

[raw orchid]

Always liked them tbh

[neon vale]

"popular for players like you"

thank you steam for the bible (75% off)

[candid cloud]

What the hell is Papa Smurf doing?

[raw orchid]

If I had to choose between those 3

[urban coral]

Being Ultra better than literally everything because GW is biased

[raw orchid]

I'd most likely choose Orks

[neon vale]

because robust gillymom is one of the better primarchs

[raw orchid]

Robust gillymom LMFAO

[urban coral]

Nuh-uh, Lion El'jonson

[neon vale]

jaghutai khan is the greatest, but not many reach close

[raw orchid]

I like both a lot ngl

But Sanguinius would be my favorite

[urban coral]

As a Dark Angels fan, I'm obviously biased

[raw orchid]

Khan underrated af

[urban coral]

White Scars based asf in general, tbh

They look interesting rules-wise

[raw orchid]

Real

[neon vale]

i love speedy characters and the khan was one of the smartest primarchs

i also just love mongolians

[raw orchid]

Ferrus Manus

[urban coral]

As for Ultramarines, they're fairly mobile and flexible. Squads led by Epic Heroes want to eventually get stuck in, though

[raw orchid]

You got a point

[urban coral]

Orks unfortunately don't have any real faction options other than Snakebites, Freebootas, Blood Axes and Goffs

Wish there were Deathskulls and Bad Moons characters

[raw orchid]

Crimson got a question

You should know about Majorkill Youtuber right?

Makes vids about 40k

[urban coral]

Yeah

[raw orchid]

If so how accurate are his vids?

[urban coral]

Fairly accurate, but some things are exaggerated a bit

Weird guy, tbh

At least, with the nude stuff and all that jazz

[raw orchid]

Got it

Thoughts on WesHammer

[urban coral]

None, except that I've heard that he steals concepts from Majorkill

Of course, lore is just limited and everyone is bound to talk about the same thing, but it was more of a "time between the two videos is just waaaay too close together, especially for something talking about the same topic"

Mr. Bones is always an interesting one

Looks at some factions either on a surface level or goes deep into the symbolic side of things

[raw orchid]

Limited?

[urban coral]

Pretty good

[raw orchid]

Always had the impression that 40k has huge lore

[urban coral]

Definitely

But just like the STALKER Trilogy, if YouTubers made lore videos about them, they'd all eventually cover the same topics

[raw orchid]

Ahhh

I see what you mean now

[urban coral]

Imperial Guard is still waiting for their Codex, so we'll see what that'll bring

They currently reworked the Imperial Guard to work kinda like C&C combat

AKA tanks VS. infantry does barely any damage

So it's now more like Infantry VS Infantry and Vehicle VS Vehicle

Some duders who had Infantry-only armies are pretty pissed, tbh

Same with artillery

[raw orchid]

No wonder

[urban coral]

But yeah, anyways

How 10e armies play all depends on your Detachment, but certain Factions do have access to exclusive Characters

For the Ultramarines, that would be Chapter Master Marneus Calgar and Chief Librarian Tigerius

Imperial Guards are mostly just Cadians nowadays, so that's no problem

[raw orchid]

Cadia

[urban coral]

And Orks don't really do that whole faction thing either, I believe

[urban coral]

Yep, they don't do factions

[raw orchid]

Lmfao

[raw orchid]

Why not tho?

[urban coral]

So yeah, Space Marines are the only ones who got "real" Faction-locked Characters

[urban coral]

Everyone's present for a good scrap. WAAAGHs tend to be that way

I mean, lore-wise, they do have Klans, but like, during a Waaagh!, they mostly tend to co-operate... or stab their Warboss in the back

[raw orchid]

Orks do be officially based dudes fr

[urban coral]

That or they CAN fight against other Klans and absorb them into their own warband, making them stronger

Or, better said, makes a warband more focused to what said warband was busy with

Usually bashin' an' krumpin' 'umies

[raw orchid]

Speaking of Orks, what was the name of the Ork that ended up in a dimension where he was always fighting, and if he died he'd just get revived

I forgor

Majorkill had video about that I think

[urban coral]

Thought that was actually an entire group of Orks

They constantly got revived by Khorne

They believe they're in heaven

[raw orchid]

Yes thats the 1

So group of orks instead of just 1 ork? Seems like I misremembered

[urban coral]

Or I misremembered

Pretty sure it was a group, though

I mean, if you love Orks and Space Marines, you'd probably love White Scars

They love to get stuck in as fast as possible

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/062/246/668/large/jaime-martinez-white-scars-cover-01.jpg?1682678234

[raw orchid]

"If you can see us, we are dangerous indeed. But that is as nothing to the peril you face if you cannot see us, and all you can hear is our laughter." Proverb goes so hard

[urban coral]

Speaking of seeing

What about Raven Guard?

As they say, when you've finally seen a Space Marine of the Raven Guard, it's already too late

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/0/0f/Master_of_Shadows_Kayvaan_Shrike.png/revision/latest?cb=20190930090827

[raw orchid]

I always felt like we’re left out of the lore a lot tbh

They*

Stupid autocorrect

[urban coral]

True

But nothing gets left out of the lore as much as the Iron Hands and it's really sad

I mean, it's better than the Dark Angels

Whenever they get lore, it's either about how bad they messed up or them getting defeated for some reason and then complaining about how they could even let something like that happen

It's sad, because the Dark Angels have an incredibly aesthetic and theming