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steel sapphire
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@void kelp yk most of vtubers have 3d models

dim light
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Sounds big brain, good luck with the pixel model

steel sapphire
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Even opera gx's vtuber Aura gx has it

void kelp
dim light
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4 cases of voluntary manslaughter against Marked One

worldly thunder
void kelp
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And besides, the Pixel Art one is so much cuter

steel sapphire
void kelp
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Imagine how cute I can look while saying the most diabolical shit the zone has heard

dim light
raw orchid
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Small jokes about LGBT are tolerated here as far as I understand, but likely serious offenses won't be tolerated

marble tinsel
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Twomad is deceased.

steel sapphire
void kelp
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Pixel Art Kira changing to low poly 3D Kira

raw orchid
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@pearl fractal hi Rahmi

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AKA Vasim smile_scar

steel sapphire
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Man I also love your German accent

raw orchid
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@void kelp thoughts about Vova Vist?

void kelp
worldly thunder
pearl fractal
raw orchid
steel sapphire
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@pearl fractal btw

void kelp
steel sapphire
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Did ya miss me

void kelp
marble tinsel
pearl fractal
void kelp
dim light
steel sapphire
dim light
marble tinsel
void kelp
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Oh

raw orchid
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RIP

steel sapphire
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@coarse rapids COME HERE

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GET OUT OF THE RAHMIS BODY

marble tinsel
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I mean he didn’t deserve that, nobody does.

void kelp
raw orchid
steel sapphire
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@raw orchid btw sup

raw orchid
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Hi man

pearl fractal
steel sapphire
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I told you in dms

pearl fractal
steel sapphire
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Did you miss your old guy marked one? @pearl fractal

raw orchid
steel sapphire
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It's been long man

raw orchid
steel sapphire
pearl fractal
steel sapphire
dim light
steel sapphire
steel sapphire
dim light
glass bobcat
steel sapphire
void kelp
steel sapphire
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@pearl fractal sir check my drip

raw orchid
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can't imagine Scar having good opinion about you tbh

steel sapphire
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Scar vs Strelok

pearl fractal
raw orchid
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I think it's obvious who the winner is Sure_I_am

steel sapphire
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I have no torch

pearl fractal
raw orchid
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Strelok turned into Usain Bolt in Red Forest

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bro probably had like 10 endurance artifacts

steel sapphire
void kelp
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Guys I found something else!

pearl fractal
steel sapphire
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And I can even handle the whole monolith base

void kelp
steel sapphire
void kelp
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So I can assign ANY image to the triggers in the 2D vtubing Program...
So I can lock in and just go:

steel sapphire
steel sapphire
void kelp
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Nono, im just gonna add a keybind to become a locked-in bandit

glass bobcat
dim light
steel sapphire
dim light
steel sapphire
void kelp
pearl fractal
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@gray jetty Brother man! And I was saying someone is long time no see Strider

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Come come

steel sapphire
raw orchid
steel sapphire
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You tryna shoot me

raw orchid
steel sapphire
raw orchid
steel sapphire
void kelp
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I'd like to rent a bike next time I'm riding around the Zone…

pearl fractal
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Unpopular opinion: SCAR is weak af smile_strelok his brain is literally mashed potatoes

raw orchid
raw orchid
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have you forget Kalancha/Beanpolev's dialogue?

steel sapphire
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Bros got brainwashed

pearl fractal
raw orchid
# raw orchid have you forget Kalancha/Beanpolev's dialogue?

"It's true - some of your abilities, such as motor skills, reaction and endurance, improved rapidly after the emission. It seems that the emission supplied your body with energy... Conversely, this brief period of strength is followed by a sharp decline in your well-being, the effects which you are currently experiencing. Finally, I'm going to tell you something you already know: the emissions are destroying your nervous system. If they keep reoccuring - you will die... or, what's worse, lose your intelligence and your very "self."

void kelp
worldly thunder
steel sapphire
pearl fractal
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And also by weak I don't really mean physically Sure_I_am

steel sapphire
pearl fractal
worldly thunder
raw orchid
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Scar, at least during CS events was superhuman who had a sense of humor

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bro woke up after large emission in the opening cutscene and asked Lebedev if he's in heaven, after waking up

steel sapphire
pearl fractal
pearl fractal
void kelp
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I'm trying to be as gentlemanly as possible right nowRad_Sign_Heart

raw orchid
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so there's a big room for speculations and theories

pearl fractal
raw orchid
steel sapphire
pearl fractal
raw orchid
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We don't know for sure. I'd like to think he survived but meh, headcanon isn't a canon

steel sapphire
raw orchid
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there's also a chance that he got converted to Monolith

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but even in that case being a Monolith member isn't 100% guarantee that you'll die

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We already know that Strider and his squad got deconverted

raw orchid
void kelp
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Suddenly, there's a study group about mesmile_scar

pearl fractal
pearl fractal
raw orchid
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Speaking of Charon

void kelp
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When you fall into temporary death, your nervous systems not burned out, like just before you become a zombies

raw orchid
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In the cancelled Stalker 2 from 2011 it was planned to be revealed that Strider was actually Charon, and that he was the one who led the original Monolith group to the center of the Zone.

pearl fractal
raw orchid
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doesn't seem like a very powerful emission tbh (at least, not for me)

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it kinda seems weak so it could be a small scale emission

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that or we haven't seen full extent of it

pearl fractal
pearl fractal
raw orchid
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Him and his squad got pretty lucky

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regarding the emission in the end of Clear Sky, either we haven't seen full extent of it or it was indeed a small scale emission

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that caused everyone to just lose consciousness

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if it's really a smaller scale one then I can see Scar surviving that

glad nova
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she want me so bad

pearl fractal
raw orchid
pearl fractal
raw orchid
pearl fractal
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The whole CS faction became the very thing they studied

raw orchid
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you know what's funny?

pearl fractal
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Sounds like a good ending lol

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The ward background

raw orchid
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Strelok survived more emissions that Scar (assuming that Scar couldn't survive emission in the end of CS)

pearl fractal
worldly thunder
raw orchid
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Strelok survived the emission that knocked out Scar in the beginning of CS, then he survived emission in the end of CS and ALSO survived emission that happened when Kruglov was taking measurements

pearl fractal
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The whole CS faction became monolith c-con puppets

raw orchid
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Whole CS faction riperino

dim light
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Don't know what's happening so Imma just send a gif

raw orchid
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Mess with me and you'll be mince

void kelp
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I'm curious as to why Lebedev didn't tell him to defeat that guy at that time. And I secretly suspected that Lebedev and Clear Sky's superiors might be part of Monolith faction

dim light
pearl fractal
# raw orchid Whole CS faction riperino

I saw this somewhere and got it saved :
The zone releases a huge psi emission. This kills Scar (He's got no protection and the last emission damaged his nervous system). The survivors, including Strelok are rounded up, memory-wiped, tatooed and programmed, then loaded into death trucks and sent back into the zone to do their assigned missions.

dim light
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Have a nice day

sturdy forge
raw orchid
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but here's another thing: MOST death trucks don't make it

dim light
raw orchid
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according to C-Con Representative Zone is unstable

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it's even more unstable in CoP, as emissions are happening daily

pearl fractal
raw orchid
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C-Con representative even said "you're one of our agents sent to kill Strelok" so it can be assumed that secretly, other Marked Agents were also looking for Strelok (in case they survived the transportation)

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generally idea of other Marked Agents secretly working for C-Con without them even realizing it is pretty interesting ngl

raw orchid
void kelp
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Both Sasha and Strelok are quite lucky, but, I'm only one with a regret.
Who's going to pay me 50,000RU reward? My work completed, but no one is willing to pay for itfennec

raw orchid
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hard to do that when faction is literally gone smile_scar

void kelp
raw orchid
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Nimble has been through a lot

pearl fractal
void kelp
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Oh well, he's responsible for telling Sasha about Clear Sky

raw orchid
narrow smelt
void kelp
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I don't think Marked One would know if I told him the information about Clear Sky, and also, I think he's sleeping in a safe camps all the timesmile_scar

raw orchid
void kelp
stray ridge
void kelp
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Actually, I've a friend named Charon. He's a lot like me, but he's old-fashioned and strictly religious. According to him, Pripyat is a garden of monoliths, and the sarcophagus is it's highest sanctuary. He calls all factions other than Monolith apostates, and says his goal is to hear Monolith's voice again. So, I have two stubborn old men smile_scar

narrow smelt
ripe merlin
normal escarp
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Stalker fans when Pripyat stops calling them
):

bitter spruce
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pripyat never called me...

polar prairie
bitter spruce
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did you just add that?

polar prairie
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yeah :> smile_scar

bitter spruce
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how was valen day

polar prairie
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it’s been a day for sure

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finished electrical project

hidden gazelle
glad nova
polar prairie
hidden gazelle
polar prairie
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noooo

grizzled dome
shell bronze
simple sageBOT
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something0421 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

glad nova
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indeed it is

woeful gorge
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i was just walking around and saw this

shell bronze
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Why.

woeful gorge
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i didnt do that

steel sapphire
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Which is controlled by monolith

vernal loom
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Hello chat

worldly thunder
vernal loom
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I already have borsch

narrow smelt
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Good luck tryna eat around all the hair

worldly thunder
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Why do I buy nuggets, and they are small?feels_bad_stalk

narrow smelt
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Nuggets are fire

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That’s why ya buy them

vernal loom
worldly thunder
narrow smelt
vernal loom
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Both of you?

narrow smelt
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What? I don’t know what I agreed to

vernal loom
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Аваааа, я дуже рада

narrow smelt
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Bru what is this language 😭

vernal loom
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Слава Україні 💖🇺🇦

worldly thunder
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Героям Слава

narrow smelt
vernal loom
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Я не вампіра

vernal loom
narrow smelt
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Ya know we got ua chat for a reason right

worldly thunder
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I've been sitting for 5 hours now to get on 2b2t

narrow smelt
swift pawn
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just purchase a priority queue status

near ridge
near ridge
sly wigeon
near ridge
sly wigeon
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lets more light to hit the sensor/film

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also blurs movement

glass bobcat
teal oracle
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Good game tho

glass bobcat
teal oracle
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Neat

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Anyway helldiver has mortgaged my house, taken my soul, and fcked my wife
I need more

teal oracle
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It’s such a good game

sly wigeon
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Splendid.

glass bobcat
ripe merlin
sly wigeon
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Remove.

candid cloud
teal oracle
candid cloud
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You are the one who sent me this.

ripe merlin
sly wigeon
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Do not remove.

candid cloud
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Less kitty.

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Remove.

sly wigeon
ripe merlin
sly wigeon
candid cloud
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Not kitty.
Remove the message.

sly wigeon
glass bobcat
earnest escarp
teal oracle
glass bobcat
teal oracle
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You meant car

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How could you
Such a innocent car
Look at him

teal oracle
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What’s up with his eyes

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Immensely disturbing

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Car is not real
Car is government drone
We’ve been compromised

ripe merlin
teal oracle
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His ass IS a throwable explosive

ripe merlin
teal oracle
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Nooo don’t torture the wunk!!!!

ripe merlin
teal oracle
glass bobcat
teal oracle
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That’s not a car

glass bobcat
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U thought i was talking about car

teal oracle
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Only car in chat kuznetsov

glass bobcat
teal oracle
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Moderators! Cut of his nuts!

glass bobcat
teal oracle
teal oracle
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That’s not car!

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That is a vehicle!

teal oracle
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Moderators, force him to pay for S2 preorder

candid cloud
glass bobcat
teal oracle
candid cloud
teal oracle
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My 50$ now smile_scar

candid cloud
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No...

teal oracle
teal oracle
glass bobcat
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You found my weak spot Lars

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👏

teal oracle
glass bobcat
candid cloud
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THAT'S IT! I'm taking away your cta, Lars.

teal oracle
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO

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God shall punish you for your misdeeds

candid cloud
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And god will punish you for taking my 50$.

glass bobcat
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And Cultic from my library

teal oracle
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Nuh uh
I am righteous smile_scar

candid cloud
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Nuh-uh.

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I'm Shooteous.

teal oracle
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Anger

sly wigeon
sly wigeon
teal oracle
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Then stretch smile_degtyarev

sly wigeon
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Can't

teal oracle
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😔

sly wigeon
void kelp
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Morning, stalkers

sly wigeon
void kelp
sly wigeon
sly wigeon
sly wigeon
void kelp
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That thing is... hard to Look at

sly wigeon
sly wigeon
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Yes. Who take photos of cars

candid cloud
crystal lagoon
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Hi guys

ripe merlin
candid cloud
sly wigeon
halcyon gale
void kelp
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I crave violemce :3

sly wigeon
void kelp
sly wigeon
sly wigeon
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Our time is fleeting. We do not matter. We will be forgotten.

teal oracle
teal oracle
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Kira did you steal your drivers license

narrow smelt
glad nova
ripe merlin
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I miss old battlefield when everyone was bad at it

ripe merlin
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Especially on that hotel map

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Hate when people glitch on top of elevators inside walls

crystal lagoon
raw orchid
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You?

crystal lagoon
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Same went sailing today was great fun

crystal lagoon
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I should probably sleep gn

raw orchid
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nice. have a good night

dim light
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Salutations my goofy goobers

glass bobcat
wintry veldt
teal oracle
glass bobcat
neon vale
glass bobcat
sly wigeon
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MAAAAATHS AAAAAAAAA

granite tangle
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did my meme get deleted or did it not upload properly

opal venture
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THE CURSE HAS BEEN BROKEN

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I'M FREE TO SPEAK AT LAST

simple sageBOT
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bend69420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

opal venture
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Who the f#uck is tingus pingus
I ain't ever heard of lativia

candid cloud
tepid matrix
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@lucid crow @steel valve rule 6 👆

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@shy narwhal

lament zealot
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What

tepid matrix
lament zealot
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it’s in a joke and doesn’t even support it bruh

lucid crow
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I don't see it

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link the message

lament zealot
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I think he’s referring to this one

tepid matrix
lucid crow
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@granite tangle don't send it here

lucid crow
lament zealot
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Janny moment fr

tepid matrix
lament zealot
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I wouldn’t suggest doing it, but I wouldn’t get upset about it after the fact either

narrow smelt
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I love racist jokes

lament zealot
narrow smelt
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I love sexist jokes

lament zealot
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Rule numbah six or smth

narrow smelt
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I didn’t post anything wrong tho

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I just said I love the jokes

lament zealot
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yeah

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I’m just saying if you posted a meme about it

narrow smelt
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As long as it isn’t offensive then it’s fine

tepid matrix
narrow smelt
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But to be fair people got offended at the bee movie so

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Using people’s feelings isn’t a good metric

narrow smelt
tepid matrix
lament zealot
lament zealot
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I know the EU mods are way stricter

narrow smelt
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I’m pretty sure as long as ur not a mod u can’t be telling people to delete stuff

granite tangle
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uh

lament zealot
narrow smelt
lament zealot
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This channel is hella relaxed, main & memes not so much

tepid matrix
# lament zealot sounds like inconsistent mods

I just want justice because, for a meme from a movie without a swastika, they give mute, I'm not asking for a ban, I'm just asking for permission for everyone, or a ban on publication for everyone

lament zealot
lament zealot
sly wigeon
lament zealot
sly wigeon
tepid matrix
narrow smelt
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Kanye loves mustache man now

wintry veldt
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Lmao imagine simping for a man that would gas you

narrow smelt
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Lmao

wintry veldt
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I think its a publicity stunt, there aint no way that man read anything about H man, he just figured people would start talking about him, and lo and behold they did.

narrow smelt
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I really don’t understand it he’s not some small fry where he needs attention he gets it effortlessly I mean it’s literally kanye lol. He didn’t need to do this I genuinely think he actually hates them lmao

wintry veldt
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I dont mean as in people dont know him, i mean as in people started talking about him, kinda like the oscar slap, yeah sure everyone knows the oscar awards, but when the slap happened it was trending so hard.

narrow smelt
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Maybe yea. I just don’t think Kanye needed to do all of this. Making a good album for one would’ve been able to achieve what we assume he wants which is relevancy and would avoid bad controversy

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I’m listening to his new album rn and it’s pretty good but like damn every other line is a straight diss to Jews

wintry veldt
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Yeah but that actually takes effort, going on a podcast and saying brain dead contraversal takes is easy.

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Even if he did i still dont get minorities who support right wing leaders, like my good man he would put you in a labour camp tf you on about xD

narrow smelt
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Bro he got mike Tyson, Ty dolla $ign and a couple pretty big rappers dissing Jews like it’s nothing 💀

wintry veldt
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I think were edging the moderators with all this political talk lol, i can feel big brother watching

narrow smelt
wintry veldt
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What did mike say?

bitter hearth
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hello there

narrow smelt
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He said something about how Kanye is saying the truth nothing too specific

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It’s like at the end of one of his songs

narrow smelt
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Skip to like last 30 seconds

narrow smelt
bitter hearth
narrow smelt
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Talkin about Kanye skull4k

bitter hearth
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oh did he do something new?

wintry veldt
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I dunno doesnt seem related to jews, i think mike would stay away from white supremacism, especially since he was notorriosly racits against whites lol.

narrow smelt
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-mike Tyson

narrow smelt
wintry veldt
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Probably for the best, i have no doubt he is still racist AF but he doesnt need the extra contraversy.

tepid matrix
opal venture
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Yeah about that...

sly wigeon
opal venture
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Powerwolf W band

sly wigeon
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I love that line

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Indeed, W name, W lyrics

opal venture
sly wigeon
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latinia

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I love Latinia

opal venture
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I always thought that was lativia

sly wigeon
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My country

opal venture
sly wigeon
opal venture
sly wigeon
opal venture
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Turkey

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🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🔥🔥🔥🔥🇹🇷🐺🔥🇹🇷

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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sly wigeon
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somewhere cold from beacon pines

narrow smelt
opal venture
narrow smelt
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This album is fire tbh but the lyrics are crazy

opal venture
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Shit's fire

narrow smelt
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Idgaf tho

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U can have the worst lyrics

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As long as it sounds good that’s all that matters

opal venture
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Lyrics are usually good too

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Unless you rhyme pain with rain you're good

narrow smelt
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gah damn this song is fire

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YOU MAKE MOMMY LATE FOR WORK💯

glass bobcat
narrow smelt
glass bobcat
glass bobcat
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am I an anomaly?

narrow smelt
raw orchid
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Instead of risking warned by replying there I'll tell you about that in this channel

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Monolith got no real reason to invade the South. They're tasked with defending the North of the Zone from everyone

wintry veldt
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They do?They constantly attack it, and also seek to kill infidels, and suprise suprise, the south is filled with the aformentioned :/

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They had to make a whole barrier to keep them out, i think its a thing they do constantly for them to make a barrier for it

raw orchid
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They're attacking the Barrier because the Scorcher is having a cooling down period

wintry veldt
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Yes, so why didnt they just stay and defend it then?

raw orchid
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Literally nothing implies that Monolith have a reason to go to Southern territories

wintry veldt
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Why not purge the zone of infidels

raw orchid
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Even more - by going South they'll risk deconversion

wintry veldt
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And also kill all the infidels who will eventually try to pierce the north?

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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You forget the crux of the problem, the south is a defacto training ground for stalkers who will eventually attack the norht

raw orchid
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Only minority made it through the Scorcher, like Streloks group

wintry veldt
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Yes,so why did they focus so hard to defend it?And also, the barrier was there BEFORE the story of SoC

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Meaning they did the whole attacking thing for a reasonable period of time

narrow smelt
candid cloud
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Wtf is going on? Just joined the chat.

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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And also my main point peratined to how freedom wouldnt coop with monolith, they kill them, constantly, not necesarrly about monoliths will to expand

raw orchid
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Your average joe just wants to get rich by selling artifacts

ripe merlin
wintry veldt
wintry veldt
narrow smelt
raw orchid
wintry veldt
raw orchid
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CoP hasn't shown us FULL faction of Duty and Freedom

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Only small squads of these factions

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Its mostly stalkers. Besides, there are still likely tons of stalkers in the south

wintry veldt
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In soc they are actively fighting in the red forest and pripyat when you disable the brain scortcher, both freedom and duty, its litteraly mentioned by Sid

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Meaning they almost immediatly went to the north the SECOND the brain scortcher was disabled

raw orchid
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Good ending slide of Vano says that Freedom still controls military warehouses

wintry veldt
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Lmao was voronin mean to haul the entire rostock garrison to the north for my point to be valid?

raw orchid
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Meaning most of the Freedom faction remained there

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Same with Duty. Zulu went to Rostok to talk to Voronin

void kelp
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He must be a the observer of Zone. More informed than ecologists

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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And i didnt mean EVERYONE litteraly

raw orchid
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I'm not denying that many went to the North, sure

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But not everyone

wintry veldt
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Its a hyperbole

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Stalker CoP ends (if you get the good one) by saying that free stalkers are starting to liberate Pripyat

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I mean i get what you are saying but my main point was how monolith and freedomers would have nothing in common enough to pair up against duty lol

raw orchid
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CoP ending slides, except first 3 ones are player determined

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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Bravo, you finnaly understood what i said lol

raw orchid
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Main point is that Monolith got better things to do than invading the south

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Invading south: huge risk of Monolithians getting deconverted, losing manpower. Besides, Monolith contains ex members of majority of factions

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If they kill everyone in the South then they also won't be able to expend

wintry veldt
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Yes, but they still try, kinda like how duty has better stuff to do than to haul to army warehouses to curb stomp freedom, this doesnt mean they wouldnt ever do that

wintry veldt
raw orchid
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It will literally be war without an end

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Besides, Military would have more chance of killing Monolithians (at least at Cordon)

wintry veldt
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Yup and the militarly would probably try to nuke it once the base in cordon got nicked lol, but a gaggle of brainwashed soldiers dont really have a grasp about geopolitics

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Im sure they would have an internal limit to how much they would expand, but army warehouses surley is within their plausible reach

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Displayed by the fact that freedom has a B A R R I E R to keep them out

idle wadi
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Wassup

raw orchid
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But unlike Monolith, mutants can go everywhere

wintry veldt
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Blud has never heard of Bloodsucker village lol, im sure the monolithians are a bigger threat

raw orchid
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And that would be problematic

wintry veldt
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Freedom isnt quite so worried with mutants.

idle wadi
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. argument, I love those What

raw orchid
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Freedom also kills mutants btw

ripe merlin
wintry veldt
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Yup, not as nearlly in the same amount as duty tho, the main reason why i mention the village is because if freedom had such a big problem with mutants dont you think theyd eradicate the village? I doubt they put up the barrier for mutants lol

raw orchid
void kelp
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I would like to ask Charon's opinion on commanding the Monolith. I don't know if that old man will give me the exact answer8p_sscar01

wintry veldt
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Charon makes very little sense lore vise lol

idle wadi
wintry veldt
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I mean why is he the "Leader" of the monolith? Isnt that the C-C?

worldly thunder
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Perhaps this is the best step-by-step strategy from humanity,by the way, Ubisoft has discounts on all games

raw orchid
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Then free stalkers started defending it, and lastly Freedom

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Main reason why Freedom moved to Army Warehouses in the first place is to defend the Barrier

idle wadi
wintry veldt
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Gee whiz i wonder why they defended it?Surely its just the mutants,because the south is so mutant free!All of what youre saying isnt addresing the fact that there is a lot of evidence implicating that the monolithians tried on multiple occasions to attack the south directly

teal oracle
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@urban coral dark Angel kitty

wintry veldt
idle wadi
ripe merlin
ripe merlin
wintry veldt
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Youre agreeing with my point dum dum, im saying the monolith is a bigger threat than mutants/

wintry veldt
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Therefore the barrier was put up to defend against the monolith, not mutants.

raw orchid
wintry veldt
ripe merlin
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What are these arguments, just dumber and dumber, why would a barrier be set to prevent mutants and not monolith at warehouses

smoky cave
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Good night fellow stalkers

idle wadi
wintry veldt
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Please read my entire argument with matt, youre confused about what we are talking about

raw orchid
idle wadi
raw orchid
wintry veldt
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Omg i just got experianced role lol, i guess my opinions matter a bit more now lol

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Arguing with people is basically discord XP farming

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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No? It still works, quite a lot, it works a lot more than not working

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I mean i get what you are saying, yes mutants do tend to come from the north, sure, but the main reason for the barrier was because monolith incursions into the south

urban coral
teal oracle
urban coral
urban coral
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'Sup

idle wadi
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Sorry, you aren't Vasim, you're Wack

urban coral
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Wrong

idle wadi
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I can't tag Rahmi to call him Basim?What

urban coral
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I am Basim, apparently

idle wadi
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No

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You're Rahmi,

urban coral
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Wrong

idle wadi
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Yes, you are Rahmi

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@coarse rapids Wack, look at Rahmj, he's faking identity

urban coral
wintry veldt
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And you know there was a barrier before the monolith how? Devine insight?

urban coral
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Because it was made by the Military that controlled the area smile_degtyarev

coarse rapids
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@urban coral thoughts on Helldivers 2 drip?

urban coral
wintry veldt
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And you also know this???It is litteraly never mentioned who built the barrier.

urban coral
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Intro looked funky, ngl

urban coral
wintry veldt
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Even if it was built before the monolith, you bet the monolith became a quick priority when they started cropping up

wintry veldt
coarse rapids
urban coral
coarse rapids
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I drive this

void kelp
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I received a task to do something about Brain scorcher's cooling mechanism

urban coral
wintry veldt
# urban coral But what was the Monolith before the events of CS?

Nothing, the C-C didnt start brainwashing people becase the zone wasnt quite so promiment for there to be enough people to brain wash, the first "stalkers" in the zone were the military who tried to penetrate it to its center inorder to blow up the reactor.After stalkers started settling in and wander into the brain scortcher did the C-C have ample manpower supply to make the monolith a formidable force.

void kelp
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Oh, don't worry smile_scar

urban coral
idle wadi
worldly thunder
urban coral
coarse rapids
raw orchid
# wintry veldt I mean i get what you are saying, yes mutants do tend to come from the north, su...

Monolithians don't have a reason to invade the south, and it also wouldn't be wise to do - if they started to pose a threat, the military would probably quickly deal with them (the only reason why they haven't done that already is because Monolith occupies strategic locations in the center of the Zone which is very difficult to reach in the first place). The lack of psi-emitters in the south could also be a problem.

Monolith troops sometimes go below the Scorcher, as evident by the PDA entries describing their presence in the Dark Valley. This venture likely had something to do with the X-18 lab (in which a Monolith suit can even be found). Between the events of Clear Sky and Shadow of Chernobyl they also went to the X-16 lab at Yantar, and had a fight with the military there. This raid likely had something to do with the psi-emitter that is present in the underground lab.

As can be seen, they only go south for specific purposes, and not to simply kill their enemies. Now, about the Barrier - many people assume that Monolithians are actively trying to break through it, and that only the courage of Freedomers who protect it holds them back. But that's not the case. Monolith could easily break through the Barrier and neither Freedom nor Duty - nor even their combined forces - would stop them, purely because of their numbers - in Shadow of Chernobyl there are literally few hundreds of Monolithians (meanwhile Freedom consists only of several dozens of stalkers). The road to the Scorcher alone was protected by more Monolith members than there were Freedomers in the Army Warehouses.

The attacks on the Barrier were simply intended to scare people away - just like the heads impaled on pikes that are put up by Monolith in various places. The fact that they went to Yantar also shows that the Barrier wasn't the only way through which they could get to the south if they would want to.

There is also a second, more obscure reason why they attacked the Barrier

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The attacks on the Barrier were simply intended to scare people away - just like the heads impaled on pikes that are put up by Monolith in various places. The fact that they went to Yantar also shows that the Barrier wasn't the only way through which they could get to the south if they would want to.

There is also a second, more obscure reason why they attacked the Barrier - the cooldown periods of the Brain Scorcher. This was a mechanic that was planned to appear in the game, but eventually was scrapped. Still, there are mentions of it present in Shadow of Chernobyl, so lore-wise it exists:

I also found documents regarding the "Psi-Brain" mechanism. The whole neighborhood was under the influence of that piece of trash - it zombified everyone who came within range. I learned that there is another mechanism in Lab X19, and that's what is likely to be the Brain Scorcher. I also learned that these mechanisms are not always operating at full strength. There are periods when the power is lowered to cool down the apparatus.

idle wadi
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@coarse rapids I would buy but I just fear its one of these games where you get hooked for 3 weeks and then you forget about the game artyom

raw orchid
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Finally

idle wadi
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I can just wait for DD2

wintry veldt
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I request 5 minute allocated reading time for Matts resposne, please allow me.

urban coral
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Gotta agree though, we don't know who exactly built the Barrier, but I believe it was said in CS that Lake Yantar was the furtest explored by regular Stalkers before the events of CS. Unfortunately, I can't send you the quote either, because I forgot to screenshoot it

urban coral
void kelp
raw orchid
urban coral
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I agree with his point of the Monolith invading the South being pointless, like they do in CS and SoC

raw orchid
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Exactly Crimson

urban coral
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And even if there are multiple Scorchers, it's still unwise to just throw body after body towards the South while their goal is defensive in mind

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But I assume we can simply call that an early design issue when they didn't fully got them figured out

raw orchid
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Likely yes

urban coral
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Although that's not really a satisfying answer... dog

raw orchid
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It makes 0 sense for them go to full offensive

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Pripyat and other Northern unexplored territoties also give them huge advantage

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As they obviously know these parts like their 5 fingers

urban coral
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Honestly, what's most surprising is that they got pushed back all the way from Radar to Pripyat. That includes Zaton and the area around Jupiter as well! And we know they've been there, thanks to the stashes and the markings they've left behind

raw orchid
wintry veldt
# raw orchid Monolithians don't have a reason to invade the south, and it also wouldn't be wi...

For the first part of this, sure, i also think the monolith couldnt realisticly engage with the militarly, which is why im reffering to the army warehouses exclusevly, it would make sense to take the warehouses since its directly connected to the brain scortcher and is also heavly fortified, thus helping them in their efforts to repel intrusions if and when they captured it from freedom.The second is a clear example of them having reasons to fortify the south, the third isnt necesarrly true, the monolith would have to mobolize a historical amount of people in order to combat both freedom and duty, since they are both "dug in" so to speak, does rostock seam easy to take to you?The fourth directly contradicts the third, why would monolith have to "scare" the army warehouse people away if they could just curb stomp them?Also there are spiked heads in the bloodsucker village, does that mean the monolith eventually reached there?No, if you think freedom is against stickign heads on spikes, well then thats on you, they have ample time to stick heads on spikes lol, even if the monolith impaled heads on spikes i fail to see how this is somehow a foolproof way to scare people off, there are far more horrifiyng things in the south than some impaled heads.The last thing mentioned is cut content and is therefore not cannon lore and thus has nothing to do with what i mentioned.

raw orchid
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So even in that case they aren't completely defenseless

long wigeon
urban coral
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That's a lot of ground to lose

raw orchid
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True

long wigeon
wintry veldt
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Strelok is effectively the doom slayer in the stalker universe

urban coral
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They are definitely weakening in power

long wigeon
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they’re definitely not the powerhouse that they were in CS and SHOC

urban coral
wintry veldt
raw orchid
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Rostok*

urban coral
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Hmm, it depends, honestly

wintry veldt
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Yes? And? Thats like 1 thing i said from that entire wall of text

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Im sure in a 1v1 situation they could sure, but you are also excluding they would have to fight freedom first.

raw orchid
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Don't forget that Monolith has advanced weaponry such as Gauss Rifles and NATO weapons

raw orchid
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But theres a risk of deconversion

urban coral
urban coral
wintry veldt
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And the horde of stalkers who would probably haul in order to defend the warehouses and rostock

raw orchid
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True but still, Gauss is powerful

wintry veldt
urban coral
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There's one at the Dark Valley as well!

wintry veldt
raw orchid
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And also, Monolith members would obviously know Nothern parts better

urban coral
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I know right?

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It was basically a steal smile_degtyarev

worldly thunder
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My petahh_nuu

wintry veldt
raw orchid
raw orchid
wintry veldt
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Oooh so we are back to that argument?Still, as i said, there is ample evidence that they tried to, throwing out manpower at the barrier to "scare away" stalkers is dum dum, why not just dig in at the radar and wait for the stalkers to come to them? Seems like easy pickings

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Because they obviously tried to penetrate the warehouses on multiple seperate occasions

void kelp
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What can be said is that some areas are relatively calm thanks to Freedom's efforts to stop the monolith from moving south. At least the south isn't in too bad of shape

raw orchid
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This leaves another possibility

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Lemme explain

wintry veldt
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Aite go ahead

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Let him cook!!!

raw orchid
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So let's assume that Monolith, fully mobilized and is now going to try to FULLY invade the South

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In that case, theres a possibility that not LITERALLY everyone will fight them

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Some could simply take advantage of Monos being in the South and head North

wintry veldt
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@urban coral hol on let him cook

raw orchid
void kelp
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Don't mind my nagging 8p_sscar01

raw orchid
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As we already know that Scorcher was already bypassed by Mikluha and Streloks group

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Whats to say that others won't be able to bypass it too? Maybe most won't be able to, sure

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But minority (like very experienced and veteran stalkers) might as well could

wintry veldt
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Done?

urban coral
# raw orchid And also, Monolith members would obviously know Nothern parts better

I mean, let's condense this logically.

When it comes to the Monolith, it's like this:

  • Wide arsenal of weapons, including exotic weapons such as sniper rifles and even the RPG-7u
  • Very resilient and strong. Lore-wise, it was mentioned that one grabbed a Stalker and even while entire mags were emptied into him, he still had a tight grip. Even when captured, they will try to kill themselves and can do so with only one bang with their head against the wall.
  • Very ambush heavy, at least in CS and CoP. They decided to use Pripyat's environment to their advantage and set up ambushes in Limansk as well
  • They somehow knew about Tarasov's ambush. Could be another case of them using Pripyat's environment to their advantage or they must have spies

-...But when on the offense, they simply just throw bodies towards the Barrier with varying results smile_degtyarev

TL;DR they're very good at defending and ambushing, but their offensive tactics could use some polish

raw orchid
void kelp
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It's like studying history of the Zone…

urban coral
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They've got plenty of snipers, so they really should use that to their advantage

raw orchid
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Fair enough

wintry veldt
# urban coral I mean, let's condense this logically. When it comes to the Monolith, it's like...

In my opinion they just suck a* in all engagements in general, in most large battles, (clear sky and armys direct attack of the cnpp, which they only clutched because the C-C released an emission), i mean the existance of CoP existing the way it does is ample proof they failed to defend agaisnt multiple other groups, i mean on their own they are definetly up in the top brass of the factions, but in an allout war, chances are they still lose, because the south will defo unify to curb stomp them.

urban coral
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In that case, it's kind of a good thing that Freedom would be the first enemy they'd meet, because Freedomers are crackshots as well

wintry veldt
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As for @raw orchid point, yes, that is why they didnt mobilize so they instead sent large-ish detachements to try and penetrate the warehouses that way, and failed, almost every time.

urban coral
long wigeon
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an entire convoy of BTRs
trucks
Mi-24 attack choppers

urban coral
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And Monolithians brough RPG-7us smile_degtyarev

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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In CoP the monolith is just getting dunked on because they couldnt rely on C-C emmisions to save them when they enevetably got dunked on, i mean look at the state of the northern zone, the monolith is defo at their weakest in CoP.

long wigeon
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maybe even T-64A MBTs

urban coral
strange dune
urban coral
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(Honestly, in a way, that'd be way more based actually. Just you and your squad. That is, if they survived...)

long wigeon
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like

raw orchid
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Monolith decides to set up squads to ambush small squad consisting of Deg, Tarasov, Valentyr, Podorozhny and Morozov instead of fully invading the Laundromat with all their remaining strenght kuznetsov

long wigeon
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when you enter the CHNNP there’s a massive destroyed convoy with dozens of dead military stalkers and spetsnaz

wintry veldt
urban coral
raw orchid
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Pretty much

urban coral
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You know how it is, because what fun would it be for your enemy to just insta-destroy your base?

wintry veldt
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Yeah the monoliths history of engagements make no sense, because lore wise they sould be the strongest faction, but gameplay wise they just sort of have to lose for the story to proggres.

raw orchid
long wigeon
urban coral
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I know how it feels, C&C considers the Brotherhood of Nod to be bad guys too 😔

wintry veldt
raw orchid
raw orchid
wintry veldt
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Yeah because the gameplay states that strelok, a single man armed with what we can presume is only an Ak-74U (given the cutscenes) managed to single handedly destroy what in concept should be one of the most powerfull factions in the entire zone.

urban coral
raw orchid
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I do agree with the fact that gameplay wise Monos are a perfect target practice smile_degtyarev

urban coral
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Monolithians are basically the first Renegades

raw orchid
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Strelok is honestly lucky as hell

wintry veldt
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Yeah, the bad guys who do bad things because they are bad and therefore are destined to lose when godod guy ™️ shows up

urban coral
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Caesar's Legion

void kelp
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Strelok is responsible for most things e_e_scar01

wintry veldt
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And once the C-C was gone, the militarly and the rest of the stalkers proceeded to dunk on them in the north.

raw orchid
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Such as BTRs and helicopters

raw orchid
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Ye

urban coral
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Duty actually does have choppers

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But they're only mentioned in CS, probably used for transport only

wintry veldt
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Freedom technically has tanks too, they are in just a bit of a need of repairs 😛

urban coral
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The BTR in Duty's base may be functional as well, but we don't know for sure

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For real

raw orchid
urban coral
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Mentioned-only lore do go hard, tho

wintry veldt
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Yeah its a shame i didnt get to see a monolithian charging a squad with his bare fists lol

urban coral
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That'd be awesome, but I still stand with the opinion that they aren't suicidal fanatics

wintry veldt
wintry veldt
urban coral
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Yeah, but that's to prevent capture

wintry veldt
urban coral
raw orchid
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For real

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Honestly they can be considered superhuman

wintry veldt
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And the gameplay states that they are a big ol pushover lol

urban coral
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The way it is written, he only banged his head once and it cracked like an egg

wintry veldt
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Yeah, which is a feat

urban coral
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Really strong

wintry veldt
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That requires inhuman willpower first and foremost, im sure the survivial instict would stop anyone from hitting themselves against a wall that hard.

urban coral
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But what I meant with suicidal fanatics is that I don't see them as guys who'd suddenly just grab their knife and run into gunfire

wintry veldt
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They do that if they have no more ammo lol xD

urban coral
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Only doing last-ditch efforts

raw orchid
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Survival instinct doesn't apply to Monos

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They don't retreat and don't fear death even when outnumbered

urban coral
wintry veldt
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Yeah, because they have transcended the concept of mortal pain, a person may stop fighting if his arm gets blown off, a monolithian will proceed to just stand up because to him the HOLY ROCK is more important than his trauma.

raw orchid
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Monolithians die when their body truly gives up

urban coral
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They do still grunt in pain and will recoil from a wound

wintry veldt
urban coral
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Not accurate to the written lore

raw orchid
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Real

urban coral
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GSC pl0x fix

wintry veldt
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I wonder how they will bring the monolith back in stalker , all seems to imply they got killed off once the main emmiters got turned off, they will probably end up like strider or just get curbstomped, in CoP monolith dialoge you can hear them being confused as to why the monolith wasnt talking to them anymore.

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Its kinda sad honestly, but symphatising with brain washed fanatics is quite hard lol

urban coral
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Inb4 they pull an Episode IX and...

Somehow, the Monolith returned and reactivated the Brain Scorcher

raw orchid
raw orchid
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💀

urban coral
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We've seen that way too often in mods

wintry veldt
urban coral
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It hurts dog

raw orchid
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Anomaly also brings back Clear Sky faction, that canonically got destroyed

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Only few known ex members we've met

urban coral
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At least it's better than CoC, which claims that Clear Sky is neutral with Duty and enemies with Freedom, because Clear Sky wants to destroy the Zone 💀

raw orchid
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And... whacky factions like Sin and UNISG

wintry veldt
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Actually clear sky seems to make plasuible sense to continue on, since Anomaly only leaves the member we didnt see engaging in the assault on the CNPP, but them not existing in SoC and CoP seems to indicate that they probably just disbanded

long wigeon
wintry veldt
raw orchid
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Without Lebedev chances of second Clear Sky appearing are next to impossible

wintry veldt
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Yeah, im pretty sure they just disbanded and joined the local loners

long wigeon
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the one with the BOS, Enclave , the WW2 Germans, Institute, and a whole bunch more

urban coral
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Yeah, but, for some really stupid reason, Clear Sky thought that, when Strelok's shield got disabled, the Emissions would suddenly just stop, which obviously wasn't the case. So their leader, Lebedev, got proven wrong and Clear Sky lost not only the glue that kept Clear Sky together, but also got proven that he was wrong...

...I still REALLY hate how they just thought the Emissions would stop when the shield got disabled. That's just pretty braindead on their part, ngl

wintry veldt
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No?Thats not what they thought?Lebedev wanted to stop strelok reaching the center, because he figured the big emmisions happened because strelok got inside the CNPP (in which he was right) what he forgot to take into account is that when they made strelok voulnerable to psy attack, the C-C would just release the emission, killing 2 birds with one stone.

urban coral
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Yeah, but he wondered why the Emission didn't stop

wintry veldt
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Yup, thats the miscaculation im talking about, he forgot the C-C could just release and emmision once both clear sky and strelok were volnerable to it. C-C strategically held off the emission up until strelok was made voulnerable to it, so they could get him AND clear sky, where as in if they released the emmision outright, strelok had a solid chance of getting in the CNPP without CS slowing him down.

urban coral
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"The Zone was supposed to calm down"

wintry veldt
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It is stated that the emissions can we directly controlled by C-C, when the representative mentions they release them in a timely manner, and this is further proved y them being unpredictable once the C-C got skill checked.

wintry veldt
urban coral
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Which I really hate

wintry veldt
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What?

urban coral
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The Group controlling Emissions

wintry veldt
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DesDocs?

urban coral
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Design Documents

wintry veldt
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What of them?

urban coral
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Because it never got mentioned that they actually released an Emission themselves

raw orchid
raw orchid
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Or if he knew about C-Con BUT didn't know that C-Con could control flow of energy

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It would make more sense if Lebedev truly thought that the Zone was alive I think

wintry veldt
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He was aware of the C-C, he described the large emissions as the zones defense mechanism, it is directly stated that he once worked with the scientist that make up the C-C

void kelp
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They argued for several hours with great passion… food_vodka smile_scar

urban coral
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Nevermind, read that wrong

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Anyways, we do know about his work in CoP

wintry veldt
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In CoP it is revelaed he also worked in the underground labs with what would go on to make up the C-C scientists

urban coral
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Yeah

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Well, rather scientists of the Group

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Lebedev really blundered on that one

wintry veldt
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All in all i fail to see how he couldnt have predicted that the C-C would just release an emmision when strelok was voulnerable to one

urban coral
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I mean, do we know that the Group controls Emissions?

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Is it ever mentioned or just DesDocs?

raw orchid
# wintry veldt He was aware of the C-C, he described the large emissions as the zones defense m...

I’m not sure because CoP shows they left before transferring to X-7, a laboratory intended for Noosphere experiments (clear implication it is the C-Con lab to me). They had the responsibility of delivering the documents to it, but left them there and presumably left the Group entirely. If they weren’t told about the C-Consciousness and were supposed to find out only after arriving at X-7, then they don’t know

wintry veldt
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Yes, it is stated by the representative.

wintry veldt
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Hell, the whole plot is them wanting to stop strelok from reaching the center zone,because when he does, the zone releases a powerfull emmision, as seen in CS and SoC

raw orchid
wintry veldt
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It is!

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The zone in self makes the emissions, but the C-C ditcates when it is dispatched.

raw orchid
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Anyways the Zone did became quite stable for some time

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There are only 2 scripted emissions in SoC

wintry veldt
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This guy has great videos on stalker lore

raw orchid
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But other than that no regular emissions happening

urban coral
# wintry veldt Yes, it is stated by the representative.

I mean, he did say that they're using the C-Consciousness to prevent the Zone from expanding, but we don't even know if Emissions directly expand the growth of the Zone, other than the one from the Second Disaster. During the events of CoP, Emissions appear daily, so the destruction of the C-Consciousness definitely affected the Zone and destabilized it

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We don't know anything about them actually controlling Emissions, unless it's from the DesDocs

wintry veldt
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It all seems a great coincidance that "the great emissions" happen only when someone is dangerously close to the center

urban coral
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Or perhaps the Zone has a consciousness of its own smile_degtyarev

wintry veldt
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As i said, the zone makes the emmisions, the C-C just ditcates when it gets released, thus the zone became more unstable when the C-C was no more in CoP

urban coral
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So, speculations

wintry veldt
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Consistent beyond reasonable doubt :/

urban coral
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So yeah, speculations zak

void kelp
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i found something on youtube

urban coral
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Congrats!

void kelp
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its from 2011 and its a leaked build

wintry veldt
raw orchid
void kelp
raw orchid
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I mean sure big emissions do expend the Zone

raw orchid
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But not necessarily emissions on smaller scale