🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[wind scaffold]

@upbeat coral Since we talking about quick saves, corruption and golden balls, how did you use quick save ? With default quick save button or in menu and f8 ?

[neon socket]

OWR for my second CoP playthrough or no

[neon socket]

is there a way to have the hud on with gunslinger on master

[upbeat coral]

Menu f8 better

[wind scaffold]

I watched obscure russian video about saving in this mod. That guy says that too, you must save in menu to avoid corruption.

[upbeat coral]

If only was it this simple

[wind scaffold]

It help me with junkyard, hope i dont encounter any corruption later. At least i have backup now.

[upbeat coral]

Just avoid Agroprom at all costs

Shrimple as that

Or make sure to get the quest to find tools there before you go there, finish all quests there and go back. My first save corruption happened because I visited Agroprom twice

[wind scaffold]

I forgot map of stalker. Didnt Agroprom is location above Junkyard ?

[rich knot]

What is the least corrupt version of goldsphere. OGSR or OGSE

[ruby citrus]

can't you just save with the console?

[wind scaffold]

I dont now how.

[wind scaffold]

OGSR. But i dont like it. Too modernish and with too expanded effects.

[ruby citrus]

press ё
type "save file_name"

[dire pecan]

Perhaps someone here knows where I can find a fix for opening bedside tables?

[wind scaffold]

Isnt save and quick save work the same ?

[ruby citrus]

well uh i'm not sure

[upbeat coral]

West of it, where you get streloks stash and military documents in SoC

[upbeat coral]

OGSR

But damn

OGSE is pretty

And I mean it, one of best looking stalker mods in terms of style

[wind scaffold]

Its like optional location, like predbannic with military and smugglers ?

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

But the quests are cool

And if you want to finish the mask quest you will have to go there

Same with faildside picnic

[wind scaffold]

Do it anyway. Even if im afraid of corruption save.

[wind scaffold]

Too shiny graphics, too modernish interface. I was shocked when saw how shiny was TV at military base. Maybe its my settings, but it give me "ultra hd top graphics 2025 reshade sfx" feel.

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

Virgin OGSR vs gigachad alfamod OGSE

Altho, OGSR has some nice stuff, Vikhr firing effects are cool af

[wind scaffold]

I want to like graphics enhancements and new graphics things, but i like static more. Its just looks more beautiful to me. Like true stalker experience.

[upbeat coral]

Omg
True Stalker mentioned

What a day to be alive

[wind scaffold]

Eh. It also have EXTREME Ubisoft modernish interface. That stops me from trying to play this mod.

[upbeat coral]

[wind scaffold]

[wind scaffold]

What is la you currently playing ?

[upbeat coral]

Large (wannabe buildo) Ass

Lost Alpha

The running speed is horrendous

Woohoo, config time

Yeeeehaaa

[idle matrix]

Practically unplayable with the default speed, unless you have nothing to do all day, and even then you will just fall asleep

[upbeat coral]

Yeah, where do I increase the speed btw?

[wind scaffold]

Lost Alpha developer's cut ?

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

Everything in tbe game is painfully slow

Running away from mutants is the slowest and most boring catch up sequences ever

[wind scaffold]

Why dont you use extended version ? Heard its bit better and deletes cars.

[upbeat coral]

I want to play original first

Because thats how they released it

[wind scaffold]

I think they lowered speed because of cars. So player would use them.

[upbeat coral]

Yeah uhh, I wont be using them

So Ill just boost the speed if I figure our how

[idle matrix]

actor.ltx should have lines for walk/run/sprint speed modifiers

[upbeat coral]

Is it packed in a DB file? Cant find it anywhere

[ebon tusk]

It deletes cars which makes maps worse since many of LA maps are balanced to be ABOUT cars

[idle matrix]

It's in the config files. Not at home so I cannot go back and check exactly where

[ebon tusk]

It's like,their entire raisin detre

[rich knot]

I have LA DC installed with DCP

[idle matrix]

But it's not part of a pack

[ebon tusk]

Also each subsequent iteration in LA tries to make it into this morose and serious game that wants to tell you smth
It really isn't

[upbeat coral]

Cant find it

[idle matrix]

Gamedata/configs maybe?

[upbeat coral]

No configs there

And the search bar also cant find it

[dire pecan]

What do u find?

[upbeat coral]

Actor.ltx

For Lost Alpha

[dire pecan]

configs->creatures

[upbeat coral]

theres no configs file

unless its in the gamdata.db

[dire pecan]

So... It's bad, i don't know what can unpack it. Try to find unpacker

[upbeat coral]

I have one

[dire pecan]

Does it work?

[upbeat coral]

yes

found the configs folder

[idle matrix]

Continued some with OP2 last night, and after several rounds of suffering I managed to complete wolfs razor using all of my grenades. And got that damn collector stash under the bridge.

Made it out to the Dump and progressed the main story some, agroprom is next. I at least now have a full compliment of weapons with a good amount of ammo and medicine

[neon socket]

Does any one know how to install arsenal overhaul redux 2.3.1 clear sky

I’m having a hard time

[neon socket]

I followed the instructions but I doesn’t seemed to have worked

@rich knot

[rich knot]

Does it give you any error

Does it start up

Does it shutdown when you start a new game

[neon socket]

It loads fine but when I close out there’s a word marked in red but closes to fast

[rich knot]

Did you start a new game

[neon socket]

Yah

Starting the new game again we’ll see

[rich knot]

Did you install the programs on the list from the mod creator

[neon socket]

Okay

[rich knot]

Also was there a gamedata folder there before you installed the mod?

[neon socket]

Yah it was inside the mod folder

[rich knot]

If there was try deleting it and using the game data folder provided

By the mod

[rich knot]

In the root folder for the game not the mod folder that you installed

Don't delete the gamedata provided

[neon socket]

For the last install

Is this the correct

Site? @rich knot

[rich knot]

It looks like the correct site

[neon socket]

Which one do I download or both

[rich knot]

Prob Windows installer but for me it was installed before I got the laptop

Also @neon socket do you have steam?

[neon socket]

Yah

[rich knot]

Do you have the games on steam?

[neon socket]

Yah

[rich knot]

Try doing a clean uninstall. Go to the root folder where CS is located and delete CS from steam and then delete the remaining files in the steam clear sky folder and then reinstall clear sky

[neon socket]

Yah before I do that imma see if the installs worked

Also I could find gamesdata only on the mod file

[rich knot]

I think you did not move/copy the gamedata to the root Clear sky files

That's why it is not running

[neon socket]

So move the data form the mod to the clear sky file ?

[rich knot]

Yeah

Copy and paste it so if it is not that is not the problem you don't need to extract the folder again but if you have the zip/7zip/rar file you can just extract it again

[neon socket]

Done

[rich knot]

Did it work?

And did you paste the bin folder given in the mod

[neon socket]

Let’s see

Yah I copied it

[ruby citrus]

are you using a steam version?

[neon socket]

Yah

[ruby citrus]

that might be the issue

stalker mods don't like steam

[neon socket]

It’s worked befor

[ebon tusk]

never had probloems with steam version

[rich knot]

I have no problem with steam and stalker mods

[neon socket]

Now it won’t work 😂😂

[rich knot]

I have used cs arsenal overhaul 1.2 with steam version with no problemz

[rich knot]

Did it run vanilla?

[neon socket]

Yah

Gonna deleted the mod an start over

[rich knot]

Try a clean uninstall then install

The mod

[neon socket]

How

[rich knot]

Uninstall using the steam uninstall feature first

[neon socket]

Haven’t modded before only once

Okay done

[rich knot]

Then go to the steam CS folder

[neon socket]

How 😂

[neon socket]

@rich knot

[rich knot]

Steam\steamapps\common[the name of your game]

[neon socket]

Okay here

[rich knot]

Is there any thing

Delete them

And you didn't need to send a screenshot

[neon socket]

Okay 😭😂

Done

[rich knot]

You might accidentally dox yourself

Also check if there no personal information on the screenshot if you are

[neon socket]

Nah

[rich knot]

Then install it on steam

[neon socket]

Okay

[rich knot]

It's gonna take a while depending on your Internet speed

[neon socket]

Already at 60 %😂

Done

[rich knot]

What is bros speed

Already

[neon socket]

Yep 5g

[rich knot]

Ok then open the mod folder

And the root folder for clear sky

[neon socket]

Okay the mod is a compressed folder

[rich knot]

Extract it

[neon socket]

And stalker is also open

Done

[rich knot]

Then copy the contents of the mod folder to the stalker root foldrr

Dont copy the folder

The contents

Copy the contents

[neon socket]

All three folder or inside there contents

[rich knot]

Make a backup of the bin in stalker root folder

After that drag the bin and gamedata folder to the root folder

[neon socket]

Like that ?

[rich knot]

You don't need to put the optional folder in 😭

You need to pick the options inside the folder and to install them

But it doesn't matter

Atleast I think so

[neon socket]

All I had to do was paste in the gamdata folder

Also is that it

[rich knot]

Try running the game

Do you the bin folder and find xrEngine which ever is provided in the bin folder and click it

[upbeat coral]

Goldenball🟡

[rich knot]

Chymo can help him if the download fails

[upbeat coral]

Chymo can?

[neon socket]

Shit

[rich knot]

So you are missing a file

[neon socket]

It is a skill issue😂

[upbeat coral]

in that case

[rich knot]

I will try to install it on my PC and replicate this problem

When I get home

[neon socket]

Yah I won’t be home till 10pm

[rich knot]

I am trying to find install videos for the mod it send to you help install it

[neon socket]

Thx

[rich knot]

Did you edit your fsgamedata to change this from false to true?

This isn't mine

[neon socket]

No how I get to that

[rich knot]

I still not home so I can install the specific mod to replicate the error

Go to fsgame.ltx

But it should be true by default on Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat

It's only a problem for shadow of Chernobyl

[neon socket]

Just did

Still won’t

[rich knot]

Ok then I don't know the problem

[neon socket]

Eh I might just delete the mod then

[rich knot]

I am cooked

If you want a another arsenal overhaul mod that's is more documented and one I have actually know works try arsenal overhaul 2

[neon socket]

Okau yah

[upbeat coral]

what mod?

Goldpshere is better anyways

peak stalker

immersive and stuff

doesnt fake save corruption

[rich knot]

He is trying to play CS

[upbeat coral]

poor man cant play the best Stalker game

[weak gate]

Mine kept exploding too..

skill issue i guess.. its since turned into RTTN

[neon socket]

Yah my second time installing mods

[weak gate]

My goldsphere was crashing then I couldn't load my save was my issue

[rich knot]

What was your first time

Installing mods

[neon socket]

Like 3 years ago installing a arsenal overhaul mod and it worked

[rich knot]

It is probably the one I recommended

Or is it the same one

Maybe the one you tried to install actually worked

And the new version is now kaput

[neon socket]

Game is working now after I deleted mods

Yah i think it’s the older one of the recommended

Do I always gotta change game data to true

IT WORKED

😂

[rich knot]

The one I sent recommended or the older version of the one you were installing or the current version

[neon socket]

The recommended one

[rich knot]

It's good enough for me. I am not a failure at modding

Less go

It's not the one you wanted but it's sorta close enough

[neon socket]

Yah thx imma add u if I need help again

[rich knot]

I am not an expert

Far from it

[neon socket]

True but u new enough

Knew

[rich knot]

You have played stalker longer than me

I started stalker less than year ago

[neon socket]

I probably got 1000 hours

[rich knot]

I have a third of that

I'd say @chocohex is better at modding because he is a modder

[neon socket]

Okau thx

[rich knot]

vasim(gunslinger hater) has alot more modding experience than me

And experience creating mods

And he is a mod on the server too

[upbeat coral]

Spoiler: ||He will tell you to play NLC||

[rich knot]

You tell people to play GS alot

Your name is literally that

[upbeat coral]

Yes

Because its the based-est (and totally not broken and painful) mod ever

Now enjoy the lore you filthy infidels

So basically the plot of Goldsphere is that a newcommer by the name of Jekan makes contact with Stalkers and heads to the Zone in search of Wish Granter.
He gets captured by the army but managed to escape at cost of his stuff being left at the checkpoint.
He quickly makes friends at the rookie village and doesnt hesitate to do dirty work as well as help others find their friends and help Wolf to be accepted back into the village.
After angering Agents he lures them into the Iron Curtain anomaly with help of Skidan (local trader)
Beyond the anomaly he meets a scout and a soldier who survived a helicopter crash.
They then head to Garbage where another scout who knows how to disable the anomaly lives.
The way there isnt without problems tho, first at northern checkpoint of Cordon they meet Shustrila and Tyrsa, two bandits who demand a kings ransom to let them pass.
They use a weird man with high tech suit to kill those who dare to opose them.

Thankfully Jekan has a flashdrive from one if his encounters with the Agents, he gives it to the man who then breaks free and disappears while the bandits escape.
The group makes their way to Garbage where they need to go around drifter anomalies, clouds of black smoke that drift and block the path.
They manage to get through and mert local scout, he tells them that to destroy Iron Curtain they need rare artifact called Path Finder.
He also suggest Jekan should repair an old BTR in order reach Rostok and later Pripyat where the Wish Granter is.
To repair it he needs a new gearbox, the only place where one cam be located is a factory in Dark Valley to which the entrance is blocked by anomalies.
Giving Jekan even more reasons to get the Path Finder. Jekan quickly finds three spheres that together make the artifact and heads to Dark Valley.
There he meets local scout, he tells Jekan about Ratslayer and his group who haf key to the factory, unfortunately they all died while clearing a mutant rat nest.
Jekan retrieves their stuff and makes fuel for flametrower which he uses to destroy the nest and retrieve the key.

He then makes his way into the factory where he is knocked out by controller.
He quickly discovers theres entire colony of these mutants living there.
With help of some of them he organises an uprising and takes over the factorys lower levels where he confronts scientist who was presenting himself as god to the controllers.
Jekan takes the gearbox and heads back.
There the scout asks him for help, he has seen a massive artifact at the unfinished building, the problem is someone setup turrets to guard the location.
Only way in leads through old bridge where a moving anomaly is.
It can be made harmless tho with help of special artifact, such artifact is in posession of sentient mutant.
Jekan finds this mutant and gets the artifact in exchange for painkillers for the mutant who turns out to be a victim of cruel experiments.
Jekan amd scout make their way into the construction site where they are captured by agents and scout is killed by them.

Jekan meets the man from the checkpoint again.
The man now explains everything, he is working undercover trying to sabotage evil maniac called Chief Scientist who wants to use small psy installation crystals to start a world wide conflict and usurp power.
Jekan excapes with the man whos name is now Abdul.
They go to Garbage where they repair the BTR. Garbage Scout asks Jekan to investigate disappearance of Dyatlovs group, Jelan quickly finds the fate of the group and reason behind it all.
He finds their safe and gives it to scout who needs tools to open it.
Such tools can be found at Agroprom. Jekan heads there and rescues local Scout from evil mutants influence.

He kills it and finds a doll, after giving it to the child he then shows Jekan where the medicine is.
Its not done yet as the person who called for help demands rare artifact to treat Abduls sickness as he is the only one who understand the medicine.
They save Abdul and head to old Army Warehouses. There they find another obstacle, large electrical anomaly blocking way to Red Forest.
Abdul suggest finding a superconductor to discharge it, Jekan searches the warehouse and finds a weird crazy man, following his notes he finds an old bottle of French wine which he drinks.
That transports him to nearby village covered in fog, surrounded with forcefield and filled with bloodsuckers.

There he meets old man whom he helps to uncover the past and break the bubble. Finding out who the crazy man was in the process, confronting him he finds a way to turn of the anomaly.
Jekan and Abdul head to Red Forest where Jekan is confronted by Chief Scientist in his mind. Abdul gets captured and to rescue him Jekan fights his way through hoards of agents and rescues abdul.
They then activate old prototype psy emitter and rush towards Pripyat. Entering the city Abdul gets shit by agent sniper and dies, telling Jekan to find the capsule.
Through series of various leads Jekan finds a capsule and rushes towards CNPP where the Scientist hides.
There in radioactive storm he finds bodies of dead agents to put together a code which he uses to open the door to NPP.

There the finally talks to Chief Scientist, he explains to Jekan that he was the Goldsphere all along, powerful supercomputer created and abadonded by Abdul.
He has seen all the guards and researchers abadonded and purposeless, he creates persona of Chief Scientist to give these poor souls a purpose.
Jekan had a decision to make, use the capsule and cause outbreak of anomalous energy making the zone change violently and grow in size or join Chief Scientist becoming one with the Goldsphere.

[rich knot]

Bro you posted spoilers

[ebon tusk]

keep talking and step aside
the REAL broken adn painful simulators are showing up

[rich knot]

@ebon tusk ban this trouble maker

[upbeat coral]

I mean, yeah. Goldsphere at least was nice enough to break down only in 3rd map. NLC didnt even make it to 3rd save

[rich knot]

I was going to play goldsphere starting Friday

When spring break started

Now I can't play it 😭

Might as well play an0nn@1y or another Freeplay mod

[upbeat coral]

freeplay

🤮

[rich knot]

Why do you think I asked which version was stable

To play goldsphere when vacay starts

It's still up

[upbeat coral]

ok

OGSR more stable

OGSE is peak sex tho

[rich knot]

You did tell me this earlier

Is it worth the decrease in stability

[ebon tusk]

(it doesnt have sex, false advertisement)

[upbeat coral]

The mod itself is peak sex

[rich knot]

Will wolfy let me say that word

[upbeat coral]

Ehh

Id say yeah

[ebon tusk]

(you should not try to fuck a pc program, harmful behaviour)

[upbeat coral]

what word?

SEX?

[rich knot]

Yes sex

[ebon tusk]

GEX?!?!?!

[upbeat coral]

Say gex

[wind scaffold]

YES.

Just remember to save using f8 in menu, use multiple manual saves and use backup saves. I dont have corrupted saves or crashes yet when i started do this, so its work.

[upbeat coral]

Save corruption doesnt appear before Agroprom

[idle matrix]

If you play stalker, quick saving becomes second nature. If you play mods, hard saving becomes second nature

[upbeat coral]

Ehhh

Nah

Out of the 16 mods I finished only maybe 3 made me do hardsaves

[wind scaffold]

For me it does.

[upbeat coral]

[wind scaffold]

Weird but Junkyard corrupted my save. There was something wrong with red actor.tsomethingiforgot in console.

[upbeat coral]

Damn

[zinc quiver]

I <3 op 2.2

Who needs Stalker 2 when i can have the videogame equivalent of a drug overdose

[wind scaffold]

For newbie what is better Narodnaya solyanka or OP 2.2 ?

[zinc quiver]

If you're a newbie, don't play soup mods

But, NS is way easier to get into

I'm somewhat experienced, and OP 2.2 is genuinely a lot og work for me

[idle matrix]

depends on if you want to ease in or just dive in the deep end immediately

[zinc quiver]

This

If you want an easement into soup culture, play NS

If you really wanna suffer and sometimes have fun, play OP 2.2

[idle matrix]

The frustration is a part of the fun

[zinc quiver]

40 zombies my beloved

[idle matrix]

That stash under the bridge got me worse than that tbh

||And then it just has cobblestone in it||

[zinc quiver]

I genuinely didnt complete zombie hands until around Thermal insulation~? Actually i completed trap for beast before that

[zinc quiver]

Cobblestones have unironically saved my ass

Specially when im carrying like 330kgs with the gravisuit

[wind scaffold]

Im newbie in mods. I completed trilogy, played OLR 2.5 and playing Golden Ball (Goldensphere.)

[zinc quiver]

Okay, you should be alright to play OP 2.2

[wind scaffold]

I hope. I heard that its big mod or very long.

[zinc quiver]

It's very big

If you wanna finish it you'll need

a lot of mental resillience, few people finish it 100% (about 500 hours for a first playthrough)
The wiki
And to save and quicksave a lot

[wind scaffold]

What about story ? It takes SoC story as a base ?

[zinc quiver]

Yep, the whole of SoC is about 2-3% of the whole thing

[zinc quiver]

(as in all the side quests, and the whole story)

[wind scaffold]

Good to know.

[neat dune]

renhanafox has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[idle matrix]

Definitely make manual saves regularly. You can and will make some mistakes you will want to reload after.

[zinc quiver]

If you arent ready to restart a 200 hr playthrough because you messed up SOMEWHERE, then you arent ready to play OP 2.2

[idle matrix]

Otherwise I recommend having the wiki on hand but not to follow it too closely, it will get overwhelming

[zinc quiver]

(this just happened to me because i messed up the "The casket and the safe" storyline really badly)

[zinc quiver]

I wasnt even going for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R achievemt and i had to restart

[wind scaffold]

Well, i have experience with restart some hours of playthrough because of save corruptio, so its okay. Oh, also what about save corruption in op2.2 ?

[zinc quiver]

You'll save so many times in OP 2.2 that save corruption really isnt a concer

[wind scaffold]

Did save corruption corrupt only one file ?

[zinc quiver]

It's never happened to me

[wind scaffold]

Good to know. Thanks for answer,

[cinder oxide]

Is return to the zone better or worse than golden ball

[upbeat coral]

Doesnt look so nice but the quest design is better and safe opening recieved the best upgrade in modding history

Seriously safes in RTTZ are peak

[wind scaffold]

Why its doesnt look so nice ?

[upbeat coral]

Because it doesnt use OGSE as basis

It uses plain old Cop

[wind scaffold]

Path from SoC (OGSE) to CoP (Plain old). He didnt release mod for CS ?

[upbeat coral]

No

There like 5 mods for CS total

Not even Return of Scar uses Clear Sky

Only thing that comes to mind is Reborn series

[rich knot]

I can only think of reborn, LFO, complete, and a couple small mods.

The small mods are all vanilla+

Dead sky has not released

Yet

[upbeat coral]

Wdym? I have it installed

[rich knot]

That's cuz you're an alpha tester

[upbeat coral]

Yes, Im an alpha particle

[rich knot]

Also remember how last month or 2 months ago you told me to check if GS OGSR works on my system well. It does but I only checked the part where to get taken

Also I then deleted it and installed GS OGSR

I skipped the entry slides

I'll start it soon

[upbeat coral]

Cool

Well, good luck

If you get stuck ask at C-con

[sweet smelt]

Been studying some light modding. Why does the game use DDS for images?

[idle matrix]

They're an image format good for storing textures, it was introduced with some older version of DirectX

[sweet smelt]

Faster than other formats or something?

[idle matrix]

My technical knowledge is not that deep unfortunately, but probably in some cases at least

[sweet smelt]

Also noticed there's a bunch of unused textures related to faction wars

[ebon tusk]

DDS is compressed in such a way as to optimize them for GPUs

[dire pecan]

Can I have an example?

[sweet smelt]

Can't right now. On mobile data only.

[dire pecan]

Just say me a file name)

[sweet smelt]

Also noticed that the map for PDA it's a single file after all, they had to be stitched or something programmatically

[dire pecan]

In any case, you will need a THM adjustment texture for any image to work correctly. This is done through SDK - you need to put the texture in the TGA in the "import" folder and then import it into the game with the appropriate settings.

[sweet smelt]

ui_pda2_noice

There's the icons supposedly for monolith, military, and ecologist acting as if they are meant for faction ranking or something

Unless i am wrong, tell me if i am

What SDK? Just using GIMP right now to view the images

[dire pecan]

Any SDK for stalker

[sweet smelt]

In any case, I'll try to make an android app that looks like CS PDA as well lol

[dire pecan]

If you need to create new ones, you need to apply a little creativity and diligence. Textures in games are like nesting dolls.

[sweet smelt]

So that's what that weird mipmap popup in GIMP then?

[dire pecan]

The opportunity to play through the game as the military was actually planned, as for the others - it’s quite possible they were created just in case, hah.

[sweet smelt]

Now that's interesting

I am looking for the texture where the individual maps are stitched to, basically the filler texture on non-terrain/something between the maps

[dire pecan]

ui_global_map

[sweet smelt]

Okay i see it now, thank you

So the separated ones are for the minimap then?

[dire pecan]

No, mimimaps textures - in "map" folder

[sweet smelt]

Yeah those, i see i see

[dire pecan]

However, you will only replace this texture with its tool in the PDA. Everything in the game will remain the same - the game texture is in the terrain folder

[sweet smelt]

Yep

[dire pecan]

Again, you won't be able to exchange soil for sand or anything like that. Only the tonality of the level itself. The rest is done in 3D editors. For example, you can change its appearance in dynamic lighting without rebuilding the level - there a terrain mask is used to display the terrain texture.

[sweet smelt]

Okay so land appearances are tied on the 3d stuff.

[dire pecan]

Yea,mostly

[sweet smelt]

What format are they? I'm currently looking on levels > garbage

OGF?

[dire pecan]

No, all OGFs are dynamic, physical models

[sweet smelt]

I see

[dire pecan]

All static models are in obj format - it is obtained when working with the level using SDK.

[ebon tusk]

use the CoP SDK if you want to mess with maps

[sweet smelt]

Aight

[dire pecan]

In general, SDK is a useful tool - there are tools that work on all parameters of the game

[ebon tusk]

should be the easiest and most documented one out of the bunch (altho you may need to research russian forums and guides)

[sweet smelt]

Thansk for the advice

[ebon tusk]

if you merely dont want that

[sweet smelt]

Yeah i suppose i should touch on COP instead, better engine build over all

[ebon tusk]

just get the blender addon and load the maps directly into blender

[dire pecan]

It is impossible to import CS spawn into SDK CoP

[ebon tusk]

he, hehehe, hehe, hehehehe, heheha

there isnt a CS SDK

you should only be usinf the SDK to be making maps really which then can be converted to any game regardless of skd

[dire pecan]

You didn't search well)

[ebon tusk]

there is a map making tool but not a full blown sdk

[sweet smelt]

Give me five years and I'll make a crappy story mod

[dire pecan]

The difference between CS SDK and CoP Sdk is that the latter has a “physics stimulation” button, which is not found anywhere else, and an editor dialog.But it can't read old CS spawn

[sweet smelt]

Where is the SDK downloaded btw?

[dire pecan]

Search on the Internet, on all forgotten forums)

[ebon tusk]

check the C-Con spreadsheet, youll need a patch to work on the CoP SDK

[sweet smelt]

Just asking because i don't want a random whirligig spawning on my laptop, if you know what i mean

Anyway, many thanks you two

[dire pecan]

СS sdk - no "simulate" button

If they don’t turn off my power today, I can pack the CS SDK and send it

[sweet smelt]

Also what programming Languages are prioritized to learn here?

[ebon tusk]

stalker uses LUA for scripting

[dire pecan]

Learning languages ​​are a priority for scripting things; in SDK they are not so in demand. However, if you are interested, then probably LUA

[ebon tusk]

if you arent going to mod the engine (at which point you should be looking at OXR and OGSRE) then thats the only one you have to look for

[sweet smelt]

I might end up customizing some stuff in PDA, so only Lua?

Time to refresh, i guess

[dire pecan]

Good luck with that. Let's wait for mods)

[ebon tusk]

hopefully...

[wind scaffold]

What your reason to hate CoP ? Mine is big empty locations, bad story, bad economics and nimble.

[upbeat coral]

Go for Hybrid Xray, I heard its better when it comes to maps

[upbeat coral]

Whah?

Poor Nimble

Also wdym empty locations?

[wind scaffold]

I dont hate HIM i hate what he do. Sell exosuit in first location of the game. Some good guns also sells Nimble.

[sweet smelt]

To be fair, exo isn't worth using until you can upgrade it for running

[wind scaffold]

It feels empty. Not many point of interest. They are big, but its only three of them. In endgame i just walk from one point to another and nothing else. Maybe its just how i remember it.

[sweet smelt]

But yeah you got some good points on good guns. They could've been like their availability is tied with progress

[upbeat coral]

Dunno, exploration in CoP felt best of the trilogy for me

[wind scaffold]

Still have good stats, if i remember, and all you need is just give him money and sleep. In SoC you at least have to reach Bar. Its like if Sidorovich from the beginning sell you Exo.

[upbeat coral]

If you just walk from point a to point b then you wont find stuff

But theres cool of hidden stuff and cool locations

Its just about taking the time to explore

[wind scaffold]

Agree. Its just in between there is nothing. It feels like they become bigger but the points of interest stay small. And even if in previous games it was empty space between POI they have more location for explore.

Even in my personal review i wrote same as here. "Big but empty, less POI and interesting habar".

[upbeat coral]

Damn

[cinder oxide]

That's pretty fair honestly

[cinder oxide]

I appreciate the larger levels but exploration is hindered by the lack of visual interest in the areas

Pripyat is pretty darn good in it though

Story wise it's very linear, but exploration wise I love it

Especially that one vine anomaly that's entirely optional to explore (to my knowledge)

And that one basketball court anomaly

[cinder oxide]

I agree lol

I think fewer should be rigged with explos8ves though

Ig the owner would understand how not to trigger it

[upbeat coral]

I mean actual saves, not stashes

Instead of some random code you crack them open using special system now

[cinder oxide]

I know

I somewhat wish there were codes you could find to speed things up

Also, following the blind dog should have been more rewarding

Maybe it will be later

[upbeat coral]

The lootie was nice

[cinder oxide]

It was a loooong walk though

I suppose it was pretty cool to see the area though

The tarkovsky soundtrack was perfect in those moments

I just wish those little goblins werent there lol

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

[cinder oxide]

Stupid question, but do you think I could get reshade running on RTTZ?

I saw this one clip of like "high level scientist gameplay in zaton" and it was unironically the most beautiful version of stalker I've ever seen

I unashamedly love these clips

https://youtu.be/fuwdxabwhKY?si=CAw6TiUgBSKVOvY6

they make gamma seem a lot more fun than it actually is lol

this version of zaton seriously just feels like the movie

[upbeat coral]

Well it uses unmodified Cop engine, so technically any CoP reshade should work

[cinder oxide]

Jmm

Do you know of any?

I'm gonna be honest I have literally never used it

[wind scaffold]

I have problem with GoldenSphere. I should get vaccine after saving Red Schuhard in his stashes, but i cant get in the kamaz, there anomaly that can let me move closer.

[neon socket]

My best friends have got girlfriends
My brother married the love of his life

But I have NLC 7 HE 2.3

[upbeat coral]

hehe

I once had 3 anomalies blocking the X-16 tunnel

I had to sacrifice snorks

well

its not intentional game design

just open console, write demo_record 1

[ruby citrus]

what the hell is Hard Edition

[upbeat coral]

and fly in, press enter and take the stash

[neon socket]

Dunno but it's reworked and now it has these stupid mutant part cutting anims taken from Misery

[weak gate]

they moved objectives around in the start too to make them more difficult I noticed.. the first stash isn't where it used to be

[wind scaffold]

Do i need to write something else to be able to use commands ? Cause when i write it nothing happens.

[upbeat coral]

weird

try g_god 1

just make sure to write g_god 0 once you are done

[wind scaffold]

It should make me invincible ?

[upbeat coral]

yeah

and allow cheats in general

cheats like demo_record

[wind scaffold]

Dont work. In console should appear something after i wrote ?

[wind scaffold]

Ill try to reinstall game. Maybe this help.

[upbeat coral]

send me the save

Ill check

[wind scaffold]

There.

I used 3.5.6 beta patch.

[upbeat coral]

You mean the latest one on moddb?

thats 4.3? I dont rememebr 3.4.6

[wind scaffold]

On Ap-pro.

Im russian by the way.

[upbeat coral]

Didnt Ap-Pro updates of Goldsphere stop like 3 years ago?

[wind scaffold]

Dont know. Maybe.

If moddb have russian translation then i download from there.

[upbeat coral]

on moddb you get petches to this day

[wind scaffold]

Its only about language. I cant play in russian mod, with russian (and ukrainian) people, with russian youtubers easter eggs, on english. It feels wrong.

So, what about save ?

[upbeat coral]

Yeah I cant run it on the lastest patch

[wind scaffold]

Damn...

[upbeat coral]

yeah

seemingly multi patch saves cause corruption

soo yeah...

heh

[wind scaffold]

Try this.

[upbeat coral]

Also, have you thought of translating mods? Psy wont do Golden Convoy 2 translation and Im desperate to play it

[upbeat coral]

nope

[wind scaffold]

Im in hell of my own creation.

Hope reinstall help.

Too bad that version on moddb dont have language changer.

[wind scaffold]

Reentering map helps. Or reinstalling game and put only one patch helps.

[shrewd flame]

I really like true stalker. But the name is kinda pretentious and there is no A-life and no pda (even tho I like the new menus)

[wind scaffold]

You just dont understand TrUe sTaLkEr term then.

[wind scaffold]

I just hate it because of Modernish Ubisoft braindead UI, that dont have anything similar with stalker.

[shrewd flame]

Yeah I get why some people wouldn't like it

But for me, I think that mods don't have to be 100% similar to og stalker. After all it's the meaning of a mod to derive from the original experience 🤷
Some people will be like it, others won't and both are fine

That was a message from the "play whatever you like, if you like it" gang

[wind scaffold]

No, i talk only about UI. I dont even play that mod.

[shrewd flame]

And that's your right, I love you good morning 🌅

[upbeat coral]

I liked the UI, it was nice and clean and fit aesthetics of the mod, if you slapped in on top of SoC then it would be disgusting tho

[dire pecan]

Does anyone here have Fallout4?) I'm interested in unpacked flora files, namely dead trees and pine trees. If anyone can help, I'll give you a link to the BSE extractor.

[candid trail]

yo does anyone know a mod for ammo checking?

for cop or soc

[ebon tusk]

lol

[remote pike]

What's the point if it says in the bottom right corner?

I've seen some but they don't play an animation, just tell you either a number or how it's half empty and stuff like that

[candid trail]

gunslinger master difficulty doesnt show it

but it would be cool if i could at least check it

[candid trail]

yeahhh i saw that but it didnt work.... ill try again

[remote pike]

Could be cool to learn to count your shots, even on rifles

Would definitely add more to the playthrough

[candid trail]

i agree but i mean, its not like i cant do that

do that = check my mag

[winter jolt]

you mean something like how ABI and similar games do?

full mag
half mag
etc

[upbeat coral]

@wind scaffold
Save me please

[verbal geode]

Have you Czeched everything?

[upbeat coral]

Yes, now shut up and help me

Okay, I just deleted 60GB worth of mods

didnt play those anyways, one was boring, 2 didnt work and the last one was grindy crap with no actual quest design

[remote pike]

397GBS WORTH OF STALKER MODDING?

What are you? The new @dapper halo?

[upbeat coral]

probably

I deleted some and its only 330GB now

but Ill install entire Zaurus series tomorrow so it will go back up soon

[winter jolt]

how long is that list? I'm curious now

[upbeat coral]

Count it for yourself

Im too lazy

@modern dragon

[modern dragon]

What's 'Sins of the legend'?

[upbeat coral]

Cool mod

About Strelok

and his sins

[winter jolt]

what is Story of Cat?

who's cat is?

[upbeat coral]

Cat is a stalker

and this is his story

[idle matrix]

hows valley of whispers

[upbeat coral]

pretty decent

[wind scaffold]

How ?

[upbeat coral]

Dunno, recommend me some good mods I guess

[wind scaffold]

Golden Ball.

[upbeat coral]

Yeah I should replay it

[rich knot]

Greed

Its a meme mod tho

ganja and mezitoses made a translation of it

[upbeat coral]

I play War Thunder...
No need for more Greed

[azure spear]

how come Clear Sky's SRP has no configuration executable like ZRP/PRP?

[noble basalt]

[shrewd flame]

What's the best story mod?

[wind scaffold]

Golden Ball.

[upbeat coral]

based
So fvcking zased

[idle matrix]

Haven't played that one yet. Incubator and Dreamcatcher are also good ones though

[upbeat coral]

You should

And then you should go to Moddb and give it 10/10 rating

[idle matrix]

It's definitely on the list for things to play when I need a sanity recovery break from OP-2

[upbeat coral]

No pressure

[upbeat coral]

I dont think Goldsphere would exactly help with that

[rich knot]

Does it give a sanity break from war thunder

[upbeat coral]

Yeah, the grind isnt real in Goldsphere

[wind scaffold]

You basically can sell Death Lamp for 1 million rubles. Agree, there is no grind in Golden Ball. You become very rich in hours.

[upbeat coral]

I mean, outskirts alone will give you 200k

not counting in the loot

[wind scaffold]

After that i have 400k.

[upbeat coral]

damn

did you sell the SVD?

[wind scaffold]

No. I sell copy of weapon i already have. And i have that suit that multiplies money you get from selling items, so i got more money from that.

[upbeat coral]

ohh

yeah

[wind scaffold]

Another good thing about golden ball, some items have that kind bonuses.

[upbeat coral]

yeah

its cool

I like how some guns are stronger against specific mutants

Mainly the shotgun is really good, it oneshots boars and the accuracy is pretty decent too

[brisk goblet]

just found the fix, I had to disable ASLR

i wonder who turned it on a year ago and forgot (me)

[livid ibex]

So, long story short, I'm playing Wind of Time, and I got to the Mission In Captivity. I'm told to wait for instructions, but no matter how long I wait, nothing happens. I killed all the military enemies nearby, but nothing changed.

Any suggestions for how to fix this? I'm okay with using console commands if I need to

[upbeat coral]

Reload a save

[livid ibex]

Have already tried

[wind scaffold]

Try again.

[copper sail]

oh we have a mutual friend

tho tbh i dont really know them

man, small world

[brisk goblet]

friend of a friend, havent spoken in a month

[brisk goblet]

like a one in eight billion chance we know the same person :3

[upbeat coral]

Try again

One more time

[wind scaffold]

Mod without any firefights, guns and need to shoot does exist ?

[upbeat coral]

Its called gamma, takes you like 4 years to get freaking makarov

8 to get a working one

[wind scaffold]

But i prefer mods for stalker and not for memomaly - free Tarkov milsim.

Memomaly and Gavna is not Stalker mods.

[round flame]

based

[upbeat coral]

Real
I forgot to add thr nerd emoji to my original message

[round flame]

its okay

I mean anomaly/gamma are not bad modpacks at all its just the people it attracts pisses me off

they never played the OG games and wanna turn off anomalies and mutants

constantly asking dumb questions about the lore that would be explained to them if they just played the OG games

[upbeat coral]

They are

Every time I open thr gamefiles they look worse than before

Its absolute mess

Result of adding shit on top of another without thinking about it

[round flame]

i mean tbh vanilla anomaly over gamma every day

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

But Gamma just takes everything Anomaly does poorly and somehow does it worse

[round flame]

yeah

i hate how channels on yt are advertising gamma as the ultimate stalker experience

like just playing gamma alone will not make u ready for stalker 2

[round flame]

Plus the 100gb+ of shit

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

[round flame]

ye

[upbeat coral]

But there is one good thing Grok did give us

And thats the copious amount of comedic value in his forum posts

[round flame]

truuu

grok is assimilating modders into his hivemind

some real paranormal shit

[stark wind]

average Dark Signal enjoyer

[round flame]

that is some real chad behavior

so much good mods for the og games that i need to play

[stark wind]

I played a few in my time, I think the one that stuck out the most for me was Sigerous

[upbeat coral]

I remember that Grok once said Anomaly is better platform than OGSR because it looks better

[stark wind]

it's 2024 and people are still like "but muh grafix"

[round flame]

dude…

all the mods that overdue the graphics just manage to strip away all the charisma a real stalker game/mod has

to the point of where it feels ur not even playing a stalker game

[stark wind]

I like hifi graphics myself, but that's not all there is. The other day I saw a post of a dude saying Ghost of Tsushima looks "too outdated."

My brother in Buddha, it's about the art style. Especially the lighting. Honestly all games visuals live or die by their lighting. Just look at Valheim, for example. Very simplistic models and textures, but the lighting is stunning to the point you hardly notice. Got off track there, but this shit is so obnoxious lmao

[upbeat coral]

It was funny because Anomaly looks worse and has worse atmosphere than OGSR

OGSR has its unique style

Anomaly is just CoP with bland high res gray textures

[round flame]

thats what it is

Anomaly is so grey and bland

[upbeat coral]

Theres nothin we can do

[sweet smelt]

Misery Mod seems no longer available in ModDB, their page's description goes to a dead link. Anyone have a backup?

[upbeat coral]

Its poopoo anyways

[round flame]

The moddb page is fine for me

[rich knot]

Same

I think it's just your system

Or your Internet

[sweet smelt]

Probably ISP, i suppose

I'll download the slightly older version

[cinder oxide]

I don't think people should hate on gamma players as much

If anything it turns them away from experiencing the trilogy

[severe haven]

most never experience the trilogy either way

[wind scaffold]

What it do ?

[cinder oxide]

I doubt that's true

It goes on sale so frequently

[severe haven]

just hop on gamma discord lmao

[cinder oxide]

I am on it lol

I actually started with gamma, didn't like it after 15 or so hours, and played the trilogy

The trilogy is so much better it's not even funny

[severe haven]

oh no wheres hip??!?!?

[wind scaffold]

I doubt it. If people want to play game, they play it either way.

[cinder oxide]

If the systems in GAMMA were less awful and tedious I probably would enjoy something like it

[cinder oxide]

I came into gamma with no real intentions of playing the trilogy tbh

[rich knot]

I hate on the mod not the players

[cinder oxide]

It was only after playing it and realizing what stalker could be in essence that I wanted to play the trilogy

[severe haven]

just cant stand the story, i personally cant stand true freeplay, there always has to be a task on my pda

[wind scaffold]

And still, you played it.

[cinder oxide]

It's not a definitive trap

Yes

[rich knot]

Unless they want S2 to be more like a lot like tarkov or gamma

[cinder oxide]

I would be very upset if that were the case

[severe haven]

yea the random youtube vids

just looking through the suggestions trhead shows alot

[rich knot]

Yeah those

I absolutely hate them

[cinder oxide]

I'd be fine with some of the mechanics being added, like the screen shakes and having your character swear at the emeny

Shaking tuned down obviously

[severe haven]

buildo taunts

[cinder oxide]

And I like being able to have companions

[rich knot]

I mean like they want it to be grind sim with no story

[rich knot]

That's technically in the OG games

Jupiter/pripyat underground

[cinder oxide]

And that sux to me, missions become so bland and awful without the artistic intent and.creative direction the devs had in mind

[severe haven]

i think hge means

commanding them

[cinder oxide]

I really loved that section, yeah

[severe haven]

call of pripyat is the worst tbh

[cinder oxide]

Yeah, and generally having it be a more common feature

[rich knot]

I agree

SoC and CS are miles better

[cinder oxide]

I would rather consider it the "least good" lol

Some of the missions are pretty damned memorable

[rich knot]

It's good but the other 2 blow it out of the park

[cinder oxide]

Maybe

[severe haven]

clear sky could have beat soc

if we got anarchy cell

[cinder oxide]

I think it's SoC 10/10, CS 9/10, CoP 8/10

Approximately

[rich knot]

Wasn't the anarchy cell mod cancelled?

[cinder oxide]

I never actually read anything about that, what is it?

[severe haven]

basically clear sky but cut

[severe haven]

yea,

[rich knot]

Do you know what oblivion lost is

[severe haven]

its oblivion lost clear sky version

[cinder oxide]

The original vision for stalker

[rich knot]

This basically is Anarchy cell

[cinder oxide]

Aight

[severe haven]

pripyat underground

[cinder oxide]

A bunch of really cool stuff on paper but missed in reality

[rich knot]

I actually thought doing mission for the military was the one most fun quests in the entire trilogy

[cinder oxide]

Damn was it?

I think I skipped it

Will have to play through again

You get it by helping that one imprisoned dude right

[severe haven]

a mod about the group would be sick

like actually doing experiments

or better not, be one of the mutants/test subjects that participated in the breakout

[rich knot]

It's CoP not CS

[cinder oxide]

I'm having trouble remembering that one

[rich knot]

You know like getting the item 62

[cinder oxide]

Ohhhh

I'm actually dumb

It's like 2am lol

Not thinking straight

[rich knot]

I was going to sleep 2 hours ago after watching a episode

But there was a huge debate in #⭐┃nospoilers_general so I am awake rn

[rich knot]

And lemme guess your not gonna sleep for at least 20 more minutes

[cinder oxide]

Hell naw

[cinder oxide]

Larping turns to yapping turns to rage

[rich knot]

More or less time

[upbeat coral]

Bloodsucker roleplay 😳

[rich knot]

Or not at all

[cinder oxide]

I'm probably staying uo till 3

[severe haven]

lmao massive debate

[rich knot]

Same bro

Or until my phone dies

[cinder oxide]

Return to the Zone is quite whacky I will say

This assembly of creatures paired with the buggy translation is funny

[upbeat coral]

Translation is gud
At least the latest one

[copper sail]

yeaa i dont really know them either but its nice to meet u!

[remote pike]

Actually just a 75000/1

[gleaming flume]

@crude cloak Ehh, what did you recommend?

Old World?

[ebon tusk]

Old World Addon

[crude cloak]

Exactly

[gleaming flume]

[tired verge]

https://t.me/hamster_kombat_bOt/start?startapp=kentId406979902

[gleaming flume]

Comments say the mod removes Hip, idk how to feel about it
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/152-old-world-addon

[crude cloak]

It does remove hip...

[gleaming flume]

But Hip is the best character from cannon stalker

[crude cloak]

[modern dragon]

She's fIcking tanky...

proof? A lot of newbie players to the stalker games will make a big dialouge mistake with Hip, and I remember seeing one guy have to mag-dump her with an SVT-40, pretty sure it took like 16 rounds of 7.62x54mmr to kill hip ONCE.

So believe me, nice backstory- yeah, good fluff there, but if her AI was a bit.... Less suicidal, let's say-. She'd be worse for bandits to face- than Eidolon was for strelok's crew.

[upbeat coral]

Takes 3 helicopter rounds (highly upgraded shotgun darts) in the head to kill her

Poorly written and implemented woman character thats there just for sake of being there

[modern dragon]

And yet she ends up being tougher than one of dead air's great swamp boars

Also... The part about her having been a member of freedom, she does imply in her dialogue that she was... Ahem.

[upbeat coral]

Yeah thats the poor writing

They make her op to show her skill

If you want well written female character in stalker go play Incubator

[modern dragon]

TBF.... I don't blame her for leaving freedom, with the way they treated her. Duty would have been kinder, they actually punish perverts.

[upbeat coral]

Excuse me?

Thats just poor writing to make her neutral so you can do her missions when playing as duty

Theres no lore

Freaking gun slovent have more lore in Anomaly than actual characters

[wind scaffold]

Woman in stalker.

[upbeat coral]

Real

[round flame]

Boutta play goldsphere. Please recommend me some more mods

need to play more mods

also don’t recommend anomaly

Especially gamma

I am a gamma hater

[upbeat coral]

Gimme a sec, Ill send you a list later on, with extra info, pros and cons...

[wind scaffold]

Golden Ball (Goldensphere) is all you need.

[upbeat coral]

Thats the list <3

[round flame]

thank u boys

[upbeat coral]

Altho Im not sure if it contains my latest Anomaly rant

[wind scaffold]

I have it to know in which mod i should play after golden ball.

[upbeat coral]

Yeah, it will be expanding soon

[round flame]

I am glad to see anomaly as a 4/10

[upbeat coral]

I got bunch of relatively short mods to play once I finish Lost Alpha

[upbeat coral]

Yeah, should be worse but I wanted to be nice

[round flame]

imo its a straight up ass and deserves a 0/10

[wind scaffold]

Can you add it ? Always love when someone critique anomaly.

[upbeat coral]

Sure

[round flame]

Please add it

[upbeat coral]

The rant doubled in lenght

[round flame]

nice

[upbeat coral]

Now if you excuse me

I lost my Alpha

gotta go find it

[round flame]

W

[upbeat coral]

I just want to be done with it

So I can move to better mods

[wind scaffold]

"Anomaly Link: nuh uh, go play Road to the North buddy."

[upbeat coral]

But damn
it does look great

Min details btw

[upbeat coral]

[rich knot]

How long does it take a artifact to respawn in GS?

Is it 8 hours or 8 days?

[upbeat coral]

not sure, I mainly get my artifacts from stashes and quests

It doesnt take long tho

[rich knot]

He said 8 something

I am guessing it hours

[wind scaffold]

Fast.

[rich knot]

So probably 8 hours

[wind scaffold]

Maybe faster.

[round flame]

is lost alpha good

[upbeat coral]

nah

its 6/10 id say

[wind scaffold]

You can sleep by the way.

[upbeat coral]

good maps, but not balanced for running ,especially with how slow it is

[rich knot]

Ik

[wind scaffold]

No. If you want Buildo Stalker mod play OLR 2.5.

[rich knot]

What version

You running

[upbeat coral]

1.40007DC

I mena, all versions are similar in rating

they arent bad

but they are far from good

definitely not a mod Id recommend

[rich knot]

I wanted to try that version with dcp

But it is dx 11 only

But it runs around the same as GS OGSR

[round flame]

is there any good mods for CS?

[upbeat coral]

hahahahaha

NO

[rich knot]

Dead sky is in development

[upbeat coral]

Imagine not having it installed

[round flame]

ye ik of dead sky

but uh rn it is looking like another anomaly/gamma esq copy

only relying on tacticool features

well

[upbeat coral]

not really

[round flame]

idk ill just wait for release before i give a opinion

[upbeat coral]

I mean, it has some similar features but its far fromm tacticool

🥺

[round flame]

ye actually, looking at all the vids theres no sign of that shit

[upbeat coral]

yeah

[cinder oxide]

Is that raw ogsr

Purple goldsphere shill

I forgot

Congrats

[upbeat coral]

Its Lost Alpha

[cinder oxide]

Is ogsr better or worse graphically?

[upbeat coral]

Better textures, worse atmosphere

[cinder oxide]

Damn

But I assume goldsphere makes up for it in story and charm?

I am definitely gonna play it after RTTZ

[upbeat coral]

Makes up for what?

[cinder oxide]

Atmosphere

[upbeat coral]

Atmosphere is great in Goldsphere

[rich knot]

Rttz is the sequel

[cinder oxide]

I know

It doesn't spoil goldsphere right

[upbeat coral]

Yeah but it isnt really connected that much, playing Dreamcatcher before Incubator would be a lot worse

[rich knot]

Well if you know it is the sequel it should be fine

[cinder oxide]

I'm not super far into RTTZ, should I drop it

[rich knot]

No

[cinder oxide]

Alright

[rich knot]

This

[cinder oxide]

I don't know any of the goldsphere story

[rich knot]

I am still in GS cordon

[cinder oxide]

I have already played Incubator

Liked the missions but the plot was stinky

[upbeat coral]

😠

[cinder oxide]

Ok you can't lie, it was at least a little contrived

And the anime esque girls who can fall in love with you through dialogue really threw me off

[upbeat coral]

The what?

You mean the one you help setup the sniper nest?

[ruby citrus]

Scar's Return 2 playthrough when?

[upbeat coral]

Not anytime soon thats for sure

Ill hopefully finish Lost Alpha this week, then I have 5 relatively short mods

After that Im not sure

[cinder oxide]

or something, to be honest I kinda lost interest in the story very quickly

[upbeat coral]

Damn

[cinder oxide]

the choices had 0 gray area to them

[upbeat coral]

The story is good tho

[cinder oxide]

I think it's ok

[upbeat coral]

Its fvcking zased

[cinder oxide]

maybe it is actually

[upbeat coral]

Because main villian talks like Bill Cipher

10/10

Would Remmark again

[cinder oxide]

the main villain is so silly bruh

"I am evil and you will know why soon enough"

||"I was you all along mwahaha"||

[upbeat coral]

Yo

Spoilers

Dude

[cinder oxide]

ok

[upbeat coral]

Uncool

But yeah uhh

It was Spatial Anomaly

[cinder oxide]

it falls so flat because hes such a rediculous lookin guy

[upbeat coral]

But not as good

[cinder oxide]

Return to the Zone is really charming lol

there are some funny moments

[upbeat coral]

I mean, if there was a mod that replaces him with noble dorito I would use it

[cinder oxide]

and spooky moments

what is noble dorito

[upbeat coral]

Bill Cipher

[cinder oxide]

oh lmao

honestly something like that would be more interesting

[upbeat coral]

Yeah

[cinder oxide]

I'm so sleep deprived

[upbeat coral]

They talk the same so why not replace hom

[cinder oxide]

I will literally never generate a coherent thought at this hour

It would be a lot more interesting if he were more of a ghost than crazy tech guy

Ironically I like the paranormal portions of True Stalker more than the secret science plots other mods have

despite how trash True Stalker is

[upbeat coral]

Yeah
Those were good

Unlike rest of the mod

[cinder oxide]

I think if Incubator leaned into that aspect I would appreciate it

[upbeat coral]

It kinda does at the end

kinda

[cinder oxide]

emphasis on kinda

yeah lol

I really feel like the ||secret lab at the end|| is super contrived

[upbeat coral]

You mean in TS?

[cinder oxide]

I may be getting my mods confused, but Incubator

[upbeat coral]

Hmm

[cinder oxide]

||Also the memory loss section came outta nowhere and didn't really contextualize that much||

It seriously felt like I missed an hour of story somewhere

I really disliked the dialogue choices

so obviously pointing you away from the "greed" path

when that isn't actually morally a bad path

[upbeat coral]

Yeah
I mean, it wasnt memory loss, more like Krammer falling into insanity

Ending and Incubator confirm that

I mean

[cinder oxide]

Ok that makes more sense

[upbeat coral]

Dreamcatcher

[cinder oxide]

maybe I should replay it

It's only like 5 hours long right

[upbeat coral]

Ye

[cinder oxide]

Do you play as Kramer in Dreamcatcher?

[upbeat coral]

Nope

[cinder oxide]

aight

[upbeat coral]

But hes refferenced quite a lot and you get to meet him too

[cinder oxide]

I don't even remember how incubator ended tbh

[upbeat coral]

Blah blah artifact bad lets to bury it

[cinder oxide]

it was just like ||You are presented with the choice to either give the girl the artifact and presumably get the good ending, or sell it||

ok yeah

the dialogue options presented absolutely 0 moral dilemma

[upbeat coral]

Ye

[cinder oxide]

because you can't do anything with your money and it so obviously points to a bad ending

[upbeat coral]

Yup

[cinder oxide]

I'm a fan of money, personally

the beginning was awesome because Kramer was literally me