🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[bright wigeon]

the stalker textures were very detailed for the time, which is strange, the walls and metal surfaces had such good detail, everything looked so old and rusty.

[neon socket]

well yeah but postal 2 looked good for the time

in 2003

💀

[ebon tusk]

Postal 2 still looks p good Imma say

o no

Portal

damn

not Postal

[bright wigeon]

Yeah, paradise lost >> 3

[ebon tusk]

I,I may be stupid

[neon socket]

everything >>> 3

3 was so bad but rws had to outsource to some russian company who misunderstood what postal was

and the voice actor for the postal dude was going through relationship issues so we couldn't hear his magnificent voice

[neon socket]

I mean postal 2's graphics fit but they don't look good

[ebon tusk]

I misunderstood and read Portal 2

hahahaha

[neon socket]

oh mb

[bright wigeon]

errands today:
kill strelok
steal secret documents for sid
Get diet sausage

[neon socket]

LOL

saved that

I love postal dude

ok I was gonna get help with mo2 for anomaly lemme post my thing

I'm watching this tutorial for mo2 download (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMrUZ8ezIso) and this guy is either doing an awful job or I'm just braindead as hell. he's saying, I followed his instructions and they just didn't work ig? it told me to make a folder with a mo2 folder and stalker anomaly folder in it then told me to install mo2 in the mo2 folder and then install it again idk I'm lost asf rn and I've been trying to mod this for 4 days

I checked the comments and people were complaining abt how he messed up on something and confused everyone

[ebon tusk]

this was made 8 months ago,maybe the mods have been updated and are no longer compatible

throwing odd balls at the wall

[bright wigeon]

[neon socket]

did you say the video was made 8 days ago?

I didn't understand

[ebon tusk]

I meant months

[bright wigeon]

You need to learn Lua

[ebon tusk]

I really am dumb

[ebon tusk]

you remind me to do so and make a quest mod based on Old World

[neon socket]

not touching coding

nuh uh

[bright wigeon]

Cool, i will play it even if i hate anomaly

[ebon tusk]

I mean,I plan on removing that god awful story and replacing it with something more faction based,overhauling the quest system and removing ISGN and Sin

Old World makes the game actually playable so

[neon socket]

bro I can barely mod fallout new vegas with vortex I think I'd delete my system 32 if I tried to learn that

[ebon tusk]

it was a joke,like I said,the mods may no longer be compatible

[neon socket]

what mods?

he only shows how to install mo2

[bright wigeon]

They did put these factions just to make volume because they completely sh*t for the Oblivion lost lore, removing them is already an welcome improvement

[ebon tusk]

werent you using his modlist?

[neon socket]

no

I'm using mods I wanna try out

[bright wigeon]

Oh, this is bad

[neon socket]

tell me about it 😭

[ebon tusk]

then show me the modlist

[neon socket]

no it's not the modlist

I haven't even opened my game

I just think that I messed up somwehere

[bright wigeon]

I already made mods for fallout but I never uploaded it, using g.e.e.k is very easy although it keeps crashing

[ebon tusk]

[neon socket]

I don't think my mods should go directly into anomaly

[bright wigeon]

I dont use vortex

[neon socket]

that isn't vortex

[bright wigeon]

I use the good old fomm

[neon socket]

it's mo2

I take it modding stalker games with vortex isn't the best idea

ajklhladk

[ebon tusk]

the Mod Config Menu should be the first regardless of whats behind it
make sure your animation mods dont make conflicts and taht your """""""QoL"""""" mods are up to date and functional

[bright wigeon]

I don't use that one either, I use the old jsgme on stalker

[neon socket]

maybe my pc is just ass (I have 8gb of ram) but everytime I load lmore than like 5 mods my game crashed everytime I open it

[ebon tusk]

dont use mod organisers for Stalker games

[neon socket]

I use(d) newer jsgme

[ebon tusk]

they are more confusing than doing it with your goddamn hands

[ebon tusk]

doesnt matter

[neon socket]

I wanna bc I hate having to delete and reinstall my whole ass game when a mod doesn't fit with another mod

[bright wigeon]

the problem is not your pc, i used to run stalker on a potato, the problem is your mods, always read the log file to find the problem

[neon socket]

bc if I just drop gamedata inside and 2 mods don't work boom problem

[ebon tusk]

you dont

at least it doesnt matter if you use MO2 or JSGME

[neon socket]

the log file? I prob know what it is but it don't ring a bell

[bright wigeon]

Jsgme is good to every stalker game hehehe

[bright wigeon]

its on Appdata folder

[neon socket]

mo2 is friendlier to me bc it helps people with potato brain like me know "oh this doesn't work with this" because instead of giving me a bunch of errors it just says that one mod isn

isn't compatible

like vortex

I hate vortex

I only used it for fallout nv and it made me go insane cuh..

[bright wigeon]

jsgme is even simpler, it just overwrites the files and keeps a copy of the old ones, it's really quite simple

[bright wigeon]

You should use fomm for fallout

[neon socket]

ion play fallout anymore but I might get back into it

[ebon tusk]

like I said,it doesnt matter which mod organiser you use,you'll get there wether you use tool b,or tool c,or you use your damn hands

[neon socket]

new vegas was fun

[ebon tusk]

nha FOMM sucks,,MO2 is better for most Bethesda games

[neon socket]

explain this then

[bright wigeon]

Fomm racial supremacy

[ebon tusk]

with mod organisers you dont

like I said

[neon socket]

if I drop gamedata folder in a game and I wanna take it out, what do I do?

how do I do that

if I have several mods in a game it's not like I can reach inside gamedata and pull them out

[ebon tusk]

you dont keep copy's of unmodded games when you mod?tahts a bad practice

most likely that mod is borked

[neon socket]

I don't exactly have pc space g

[ebon tusk]

send me the link

[neon socket]

it was an example

[ebon tusk]

too many new games,,make a pc grumpy

[neon socket]

yes

[ebon tusk]

Callisto Protocol is 88gb,santo deus

[neon socket]

nvm yall I'm just lazy and would rather have an organizer do it for me

[bright wigeon]

Thats too many free space

[neon socket]

2 diff ones

[ebon tusk]

thas ok,Im not holding it against you,Organisers are easier,I use them for bethesda games for example,I have grown accostumed to doing it by hand for stalker tho

[neon socket]

space isn't an issue for me

[bright wigeon]

Look this is sh*t, that boy can fit so many mods

[neon socket]

I get that, I used to do that too but I was just tired of copying games over and over and it got super confusing for me due to various disorders that make it hard to focus and not be confused (ADD, ADHD)

I might try it again but it kinda just made me upset and demotivated everytime I messed up

[vernal sphinx]

Hablas español?

[neon socket]

like you have several mods in a game and you don't know which are compatible (unless it explicitly says)

[vernal sphinx]

Barça o Madrid?

[ebon tusk]

still like I said,first thing you have to be mindful of is if the mods your using are compatible or if theyre updated or are borked or not
try and launch the game,show me the game logs

[ebon tusk]

Im pretty sure thats not Spanish my guy

[bright wigeon]

that's not spanish you m*rrow

[neon socket]

what does borked mean?

[ebon tusk]

broken

[neon socket]

oh

[ebon tusk]

looks Portuguese

[neon socket]

like that old sprinting animation mod

[ebon tusk]

language of my soul

[bright wigeon]

Yep

[neon socket]

I just realized why I'm so braindead

I live in washington state usa

most ghetto state ever to exist

[ebon tusk]

tho I need to ask,European or Brazilian Portuguese

[neon socket]

he's from brazil

[bright wigeon]

Thats why you joined the monolith

[neon socket]

bet

I bet he's from brazil

I have never met someone from portugal proper

[ebon tusk]

well guess this is your first time

[neon socket]

teehee funny rock :D

[bright wigeon]

I'm from a portuguese colony in mars, whe f*ck space cows here

[vernal sphinx]

Disco Local no es Español 🧐

Sorry this is portuguese

[neon socket]

nah I like the mercs more I only put it because recently I've been playing monolith more

[bright wigeon]

Make sense

[ebon tusk]

I mean I know we are close and sound a very close but cmon

we are an infection

the Portuga Collective mind will penetrate the internets firewall and create a global united internet

[bright wigeon]

Why you left us oh latin america

[ebon tusk]

sounds like something Id get wrong on purpose to make ppl mad

[bright wigeon]

man, no one speaks 100% spanish or 100% portuguese, each one speaks a variation culturally mixed with their place of origin but we are all obliged to know english

[ebon tusk]

you might say taht this is even more true for english due to the variations all around the globe

[neon socket]

this is why I dislike the british

they are the reasonyou guys are obliged to

[ebon tusk]

youre both the same to me bro

[neon socket]

difference of me is I came from canada

quebecois 😈

[bright wigeon]

there are only two, the incomprehensible British and the friendly American

[neon socket]

hon hon hon 🇫🇷 🥖

[ebon tusk]

ho god,he's french canadian,RUN!

[neon socket]

run from my singular terrorist group funded by russia and my very scary baguette

[ebon tusk]

heheheh
aight Imma go

[neon socket]

gl

[ebon tusk]

maybe I'll continue my TFW game

see you

[neon socket]

I'm quebecois and barely even that bro how would I know french politics

I just have some quebecois family that's all

other than that my dad is mexican and we live in the us

yeah

I have a step-mom who is a principle of a high school

and my dad is stay at home

my mom works 3 jobs and my step dad is an auto shop manager

[bright wigeon]

I don't know much for the British colonies, but the Portuguese and Spanish ones had the language of the colonizers mixed with the languages ​​of the native populations creating extremely disturbing variations, in Brazil it was a bizarre variation of Tupi with Portuguese, which changed a lot of the meaning of the words they use there and here although these are the same words but not their meanings

[neon socket]

they didn't mix languages in the british colonies, they just genocided them

welcome to the british empire at it's finest

[bright wigeon]

[neon socket]

half were killed, half were "re-educated" 💀

[bright wigeon]

[neon socket]

gigachad british empire on their way to kill a bunch of random africans, colonize places for slaves and gold, and completely destroy several ethnicities

[bright wigeon]

they did this in the south of Brazil and in the northeast, but further inland, in the north and center regions, there is a strong indigenous linguistic and phenotypic presence, we even have native tribes that still maintain the culture of the pre-colonization era and other survivors of "quilombola" settlements

[bright wigeon]

https://youtu.be/iXbzktx1KfU

[ebon tusk]

ho you don't have to tell me,I am perfectly aware of this don't worry

[bright wigeon]

[ruby citrus]

clear sky is literally on the level of the first crysis graphically what are you talking about

and like my condolences if you think anomaly non existent artstyle looks better than vanilla

[merry forge]

💀

i mean it looks good

but at the same time i dont think crysis looks that great

[merry forge]

also anomaly does look bad

[ruby citrus]

yea

[merry forge]

i mean crysis is impressive on a technical level graphically for its time, but it doesn't look that good

like they did some pretty impressive techniques, but it just looks like those anomaly screenshots where they crank up the saturation, bloom, and exposure

[neon socket]

at least it looks better than soc 💀

and anomaly doesn't look bad it just doesn't stand out

and clear sky only looks good in like 4 areas so

[ruby citrus]

not really

[neon socket]

yeah it does

it looks half rendered

wait can I sswear here

oopsies

didn't happen

[neon socket]

soc looks faded and like it's in beta

and you're right clear sky looks pretty good at least compared to the other games

[ruby citrus]

did you play on static lightning with min textures or smth

[neon socket]

maybe my pc automatically went to that

it isn't even that bad of a pc

[ruby citrus]

soc looks perfectly fine, dynamic lightning holds up and photorealistic textures hardly age

[neon socket]

hm maybe there is something wrong with my game or my settings

now pripyat

don't even get me started

that is the one game I'll stand by that it does not look good

[ruby citrus]

ehhhh it's too brown especially in skadovsk but it works i guess

they had to downgrade for some reason, i don't remember

[neon socket]

to support lower end pc's I think

a lot of people in Ukraine specifically didn't have very good pcs and to support the eastern european players they downgraded

I THINK

don't quote me on that

[ruby citrus]

dunno honestly, i only can recall something being wrong with directx or idk

[neon socket]

idk, also anomaly doesn't look bad, I mean darkscape does look like complete ass I'll only agree for that area though

and there are plenty of ways to make it look better

just turn your settings up

[ruby citrus]

many things are out of place

[neon socket]

or download PROSPERITY

[neon socket]

it's not in the STALKER series though

it doesn't have to

it has freee reign to do whatever because it's made by it's own devs and has it's own things

it's special (ed)

[ruby citrus]

i would prefer playing builds of OL on without dynamic lightning than playing anomaly tbh

[ruby citrus]

and all those things are bad/were done better by other freeplay mods

whatever

[neon socket]

anomaly is a spin on the stalker series by adding areas, guns, outfits, and a lot more. it it's not supposed to be good in the way as it's "unique" or they did things well, it's good as in they took a bunch of diff ideas and put it into one game so there are plenty of things to do and more things to work torwards

it isn't much better than the base stalker games besides the fact that there is just "more"

and the modding capabilities

[ruby citrus]

in terms of being a platform for other mods anomaly is just buffed CoC, which is alright i guess but not something radical

[ruby citrus]

you talk like they invented the whole freeplay genre and not just made another CoC fork

[neon socket]

I've never played CoC tho so idk

[merry forge]

i LOVE coc

[neon socket]

I love coc but with a- my lawyers have advised me not to continue

[merry forge]

continue

i am now you lawyer

you are allowed to continue

[crisp trench]

anyone experienced with secret trails 2 mod for shoc?

i get a ctd everytime I talk to sakharov

[neon socket]

I love cock

I don't think the server moderators would be happy

[merry forge]

@ancient imp do the thug shaker, honey

[neon socket]

🤨

the amount of thug mp4s I have is concerning

[ruby citrus]

oh god

[wicked kernel]

is that the mod with the rat with dynamite strapped to its back

[subtle kernel]

play call of misery

[merry forge]

lmao what

i need this

[wicked kernel]

haha idk the mod, just saw a video of a guy in yantar tunnels getting blown up by a rat with dynamite on him

[subtle kernel]

i am currently seeing which call of chernobyl mods are compatible with call of misery, any hd models mods i have tried so far have crashed my game but thap seems to work fine, are there any you guys recommend i try

[ruby citrus]

dishonored

[bright wigeon]

is it possible to add npcs to squads without changing the spawn file?

[wicked kernel]

here found it

[lunar kettle]

Yep SS

[wicked kernel]

oh so thats stalkersoup?

[lunar kettle]

Yea you can tell because equipment is attached to the same slots as artifacts are 🤮

[strange lantern]

Will I be able to play Gunslinger mod based on Call of Pripyat if I install X-Ray Oxygen X64 multi-threaded engine?

Tbh wanna try to play Gunslinger with advanced vector extensions

The main question is - will there be any process conflicts, or something like that

[subtle kernel]

i am getting this error with call of misery and a few mods, what could be causing it
i assume it could either be thap (i installed the one from coc) or the stcom weapon pack, or maybe outfit addon i have installed or they conflict with each other or something

[ebon tusk]

It would prove unlikely for it to be armour pack,and from the name it should be from the weapon pack,check the description,try reinstalling the weapon packs

[subtle kernel]

lol i'm just going to uninstall the weapon pack, thap + vanilla misery guns is going to look CURSED

imagine the lowest quality model wise guns you have ever seen combined with thap arms

[ebon tusk]

can't be that bad cmon

Still,if the weapon pack isn't a mere animation replacer you'll most likely need to create a new save to fix issues related with new weapons added by mods that no longer exist

[subtle kernel]

weapon pack is basically arsenal overhaul for call of misery

the issue is that it crashes when i loaded into a certain place, it worked perfect before

[ebon tusk]

Like I said,from the description the missing link is an animation for the vz61, particularly the one where it's aiming,you're welcome to fix it yourself by modding the files but otherwise you'll need to uninstall and start a new save

[subtle kernel]

this is going to look amazingly cursed

[ebon tusk]

it's not stupid if it works

[subtle kernel]

what they need to do is add the dead air guns, i want to use a retarded totally sawed off sks

i just found a working hd model addon for call of misery, thats a fat w for me and moddb since i'm uploading that asap

[ebon tusk]

ho no,he found HD Models,everybody RUN

[subtle kernel]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-chernobyl-hd-models-addon/downloads/wip-hd-models-build-3

yeah its this one, seems to work fine

[ebon tusk]

I pray for your soul to find peace in this river of misery

[subtle kernel]

now this happens

[ebon tusk]

same problem with missing animations,must be the same weapon pack,why don't you reinstall CoM without any weapon packs or bad looking HD models?

[subtle kernel]

i didn't install weapon pack this time kek

and i didn't have hd models before

so it must be thap or outfit addon or something

tried spawning in as loner

[ebon tusk]

It's the weapon pack like I said

[subtle kernel]

i no longer have the weapon pack

those are vanilla guns

[ebon tusk]

Unless the armour pack adds an armour called LR333

[subtle kernel]

maybe it's a addon i added for misery 2.2.1 hud

[ebon tusk]

What is THAP then

[subtle kernel]

or maybe it means player hands hud or something

[subtle kernel]

adds hands/arms models

[ebon tusk]

Try without it

[subtle kernel]

example

[ebon tusk]

And then try without HUDs

[ebon tusk]

Cursed asf

[subtle kernel]

it's the best arm models ive seen so far lol

especially cuz vanilla com uses loner armor as the arm model for monolith armor

[ebon tusk]

potatoes potatos,I don't see a problem

Especially if it potentially borks the game

[subtle kernel]

did i mention how much i love modding coc and its children

still happens

screw it going to get a brand new gamedata file and try not applying outfit addon

[ebon tusk]

You should be already using a new CoM installation at this point

[subtle kernel]

dude funny thing is

i tried deleting gamedata and relaunching to see if it makes a new gamedata

it literally was just call of chernobyl

[ebon tusk]

You,you know that every nu freeplay mod is a variation of CoC right?it's obvious,you do right?

[subtle kernel]

i do

[ebon tusk]

it's not a secret

[subtle kernel]

but i didn't expect it to straight up open call of chernobyl without gamedata

no other coc child ive seen does that

[ebon tusk]

Mhe,it's not unbelievable or strange that it does

pretty par for the course

[neat dune]

Капитан Тянка#7441 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[subtle kernel]

launching with just thap screws the game even tho it worked before

it says something about an mpx bore this time even tho theres no mpx in the game

[ebon tusk]

What the

[subtle kernel]

maybe the bin file affects it, i had to replace the bin file for stcom

[ebon tusk]

your installation is definitely cursed

[subtle kernel]

does the bin file affect this stuff

[ebon tusk]

Yes

[subtle kernel]

since all i'm doing is reapplying the gamedata

[ebon tusk]

You still haven't done a fresh reinstall?

[subtle kernel]

no i'm too lazy for that lmao

this is my fresh reinstall

dragging this into the folder after deleting the old one

ill try doing both bin and gamedata and then doing only thap

wooooo

screw it man im fresh reinstalling

[ebon tusk]

You should've already done it

You could've spotted the file which was causing you trouble but I'm guessing you already knew that

[subtle kernel]

maybe for some reason it only works with the weapon pack guns and the reason it crashed was that it detected a gun that wasnt in it

yeah it just crashed again let me try this

dude it works totally fine with the weapon pack

it looks like it just crashes my game when it sees a vanilla gun

[neon socket]

what's this mod for anomaly?

[dusk trellis]

Grok's Body Health System Redux. But I don't recommend installing it unless you want some extreme hardcore experience

[neon socket]

thanks, I prob wont in that case

[tawdry crown]

body stuck in door, uhh, any ideas?

oblivion lost remake, vector of alienation

[merry forge]

crunch

[bright wigeon]

you can't just put in mods from another game and expect it to work without merging the animations, actor.ltx, descriptions, and merging with the items that are already there and not simply overwriting

[tawdry crown]

i think i found noclip in stalker

[bright wigeon]

demo record 1

[tawdry crown]

I'm talking about walking through walls, not just camera

[bright wigeon]

If you press esc while on dbg you can teleport to the location

[tawdry crown]

not in vanilla for sure

does anomaly add that?

[bright wigeon]

That was made for vanilla

[bright wigeon]

I dont even play anomaly

[tawdry crown]

I've seen somwhere that Anomaly added teleport on debug

I mean demo_record 1 is in vanilla

[bright wigeon]

I dont play anomaly

[tawdry crown]

but not teleporting with it

[bright wigeon]

Yes, it is

[tawdry crown]

so why it doesnt work for me

[bright wigeon]

Press enter them

[wicked kernel]

you press enter when camera is in the spot you want to go to

[bright wigeon]

Thats how people find the secret room in limansk in stalker clear sky

[wicked kernel]

...there is a secret room? first i am hearing of this

[bright wigeon]

Yep, hold on

[wicked kernel]

I know that limansk is bigger than in game, a lot of areas are cut off, but never heard of secrets. I love secrets

[bright wigeon]

https://youtu.be/OvmREvO7nG8

Jump to the end

[tawdry crown]

testing in vanilla

esc / enter do nothing, just exit the debug mode

[rancid goblet]

any funny mod for Stalker CoP

maybe some cheats?

[wicked kernel]

that's neat, thanks for showing

[bright wigeon]

Couse in soc is jump_to_level

[bright wigeon]

Hold on

[tawdry crown]

what

jump_to_level changes a level

[bright wigeon]

http://sdk.stalker-game.com/en/index.php?title=Commands_list
This works in every stalke

[bright wigeon]

Thats the teleport cheat for soc

[tawdry crown]

so in which game demo_record works?

i mean teleport with it

[rancid goblet]

Ok

Ty

[wicked kernel]

should work with all, since you are playing a mod maybe creator broke it intentionally?

[tawdry crown]

huh? i just tested it in vanilla

also keep in mind im not talking about demo_record in general

but teleport with demo_record

[bright wigeon]

Cop

[wicked kernel]

well if you have demo_record 1 then enter really should work, i dont see why it wouldnt

[bright wigeon]

Me too,probably some build issue

[tawdry crown]

well it doesnt, and every source on the internet says that something like this doesnt exist

without mods that add it like Anomaly

[merry forge]

cop(e)

[bright wigeon]

Some cheats are not enabke by default in some builds

Enable*

[tawdry crown]

anyway here's how i solved it lol

it turns out its possible to make the player crouch so low in actor.ltx that you can walk under locked doors

[merry forge]

mkv

[tawdry crown]

here true discord format

[bright wigeon]

Vannila

https://youtu.be/2ejqdGROS0o

[tawdry crown]

in video description it says that it's a mod

"extended commands"

[bright wigeon]

Still works on coc either

And it use cop as base

[tawdry crown]

maybe it was added in coc, i dont think it works in cop vanilla either

[bright wigeon]

Also, look for the anomalous dogout iceberg, there are several secrets and theories there

You said anomaly

Cope

[upbeat vapor]

Copper

If you can dig it, it's yours

[waxen berry]

Ignore him, he's 30

[bold inlet]

Whats wrong with 30

[waxen berry]

It's not the age itself

It's his sense of humor

[waxen berry]

What are the current recommended anomaly addons?

I'm not installing an entire mod pack, I just want "omg this is a must have" addons

[ebon tusk]

you already know my answer,Old World

[waxen berry]

Old qhat?

@ebon tusk speak

What's old word

[ebon tusk]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/152-old-world-addon

[waxen berry]

Oh, so it un-anomlys the game

Based as hell

[lunar kettle]

Still a freeplay mod
Still causes uncontrollable projectile vomiting

[bright wigeon]

Copperb

[neon socket]

Anyone recommend a good stalker mod for any game

Any stalker game*

[bright wigeon]

lost alpha

oblivion lost remake

[neon socket]

Ok

Thanks (:

[bright wigeon]

oblivion lost remake is just great really great

the map size is just too big

like lost alpha too

[lunar kettle]

Reborn

[rustic flare]

Alone in windstorm pretty good.

even through it's mostly not stalker at this point.

[waxen berry]

NLC 7

[subtle kernel]

which version of coc is last day built on

[subtle kernel]

reborn doppelganger

[ebon tusk]

@ancient imp

@stiff sealhelp?помощь

[ancient imp]

Wha

I was cooking

[ebon tusk]

pinged you about a horny bot

[ancient imp]

Lmfao

[bright wigeon]

Are you in 2018?

[ebon tusk]

🤨 what

[bright wigeon]

last day was only "good" when it came out, but the game crashes more than dead air

[ebon tusk]

I dont see how that relates

but mhe,I never played Last Day

cant confiem

[waxen berry]

The mod is old

Nobody plays it nowadays

That's why he said 2018

Still a weird thing to say

[ebon tusk]

regardless of how old a mod is,ppl can still play it

The Faction Wars is a p good mod,shame it's not finished lmao

[bright wigeon]

Is not about that, it's about the high instability that makes it not recommendable to anyone

Even dead air is better

[bright wigeon]

?????

[ebon tusk]

an example of a old mod that is still being played to this day

[bright wigeon]

I dont think they are the same situation, but if you say so

how do i* fix the bug of non-occurrence of emissions in coc 1.4? I already tried restoring the atmosphere and events file but still no emissions and psy storms

[heavy hatch]

Im playing Stalker Anomaly

And I got an issue

The first time I entered Radar I beated up Monolith and then I entered to the lab X19

but I havent noticed the time counter

So I went off the lab without completing my task

when I returned to the Lab I only had 12 seconds to disable the brain scorcher

almost imposible

So, I think I only have two options

1. Completing the mission with debug mode

2. Warp to the brain scorcher with a code

Any ideas?

[bright wigeon]

Load the previus save, every level you enter you get a autosave

[heavy hatch]

I cant, I completed two secondary task after doing that

[bright wigeon]

Why not?

Well its the only way or start a new game

[heavy hatch]

Im screwed up

Are you sure there is no way to use an debug code to warp into the brain scorcher?

[bright wigeon]

Stalker is not fallout, i dont think you can cheat quests via debug menu

Debug menu is to spawn stuff

[ebon tusk]

Im sure someone in Anomaly server will know a lot more,maybe they'll be able to solve the issue

[rigid flax]

Does anyone know how "Dest string less than needed" crash occurs? Or is it random?

[bright wigeon]

Game?

[rigid flax]

Any X-ray engine

[bright wigeon]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/4500/discussions/0/3104640350806250913/

[rigid flax]

Aha

SO IT WAS USER.LTX CORRUPTION ALL ALONG?!

[neat dune]

Sevka Slav#8452 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[bright wigeon]

yep, try delet the appdata

[neon socket]

im bad with computer

need help/ walkthrough on downloading and installing Stalker Gamma

[merry forge]

theres a walkthrough on the main site, and plenty of videos. also look at the Gamma discord

[neon socket]

ok thanks

[tender fossil]

Here bratan. If debug modes godmode can't fix it and doesn't break your game save, make a new save and make a proper save before you enter the brain scorcher. JustAnomalyJank™️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM1V9Zkg-Zw&t=3s

[obtuse python]

Best of luck to you 👍

[waxen berry]

Don't

It somehow made anomaly even worse

Reject Gamma, embrace old world

[tender fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-roadhouse-romance-dont-tempt-me-with-a-good-time-good-time-gif-23049975

[waxen berry]

What good time?

There is only one satisfying moment in anomaly

Uninstalling

[ebon tusk]

Killing hip

Is very satisfying

[fickle fiber]

Does anomaly have a fast ttk when playing in master or higher difficulty?

[tender fossil]

Do you ask generally or you mean fast'er' than on normal? Cos afaik the enemies' accuracy increases with higher difficulties. They're generally no bullet sponges imo tbh

[ebon tusk]

Armour used to mean something
Then came the soup mods and "hardcore survival muh realism" to tell us no

Soup mods are weird

[tender fossil]

Depends on if you install these mods or not. I mean GBOOBS doesn't even change anything on the armour spectrum, just the bullet damage and some more regarding that

[ebon tusk]

Boobs

Hehe

Still,Soup Mods give all stalker squads at least one NPC with one shot capabilities that can kill you faster than you can see them

Very,preculiar

[bright wigeon]

strelok is a boob or ass man?

[ebon tusk]

a fool will ask his preference,a wise man will see past the fog and mirror and choose the right option,as-

[bright wigeon]

[tender fossil]

Yes, Grok's Ballistic Overhaul Of Ballistic System

[ebon tusk]

Nha,

[tender fossil]

What if I told you, that there's a mod called DICKS aswell

Dux's Innumerable Character Kit

[ebon tusk]

silly fellas

[tender fossil]

That's why I enjoy Anomaly. Not because it's 'good' imo, but for the funni pee pee jokes

[ebon tusk]

I can respect that aye

Honestly one of the only grivances I have with Old World mod now that we talking anomaly addons
Is that it still has the headlamp turn on and off animation and that the 3d PDA isnt off by default tho that's a nitpick

[lunar kettle]

I wouldn't do this if i were you, you might give someone the wrong impression of what a mod is. To my knowledge only OP does this cause OP prides itself on muh difficulty, i don't know if DMX, 2016, SS or any other soup that might exist does it.

[ebon tusk]

well we all know the universal difficulty prompt
Swamp the level with enemies

[lunar kettle]

Nah even that varies from soup to soup

Cave in OP is completely flooded with mutants, 2016 however has relatively few of them from what i remember

[ebon tusk]

Cave in OP2.1 is cool,cave in OP2.2 is lame

[neon socket]

i already own and play all of the Original titles

[bright wigeon]

Old world is a mod for anomaly

[waxen berry]

Old world makes anomaly better

[waxen berry]

Fun fact, NLC armor makes a huge difference so it's not worthless like other soup mods

[obtuse python]

Duty member be like after clear skies faction is taken out

[neon socket]

@waxen berry what does Old World mod entail

what is it like, what does it add or change, and where can i get it

[bright wigeon]

@ebon tusk

[ebon tusk]

Old World rebalances the games progression and combat and changes the models and animations of guns and stalkers to make it more akin to the original games

To download it just download it on Moddb

It's a simple 550 rar file you apply on top of anomaly

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/152-old-world-addon

[neon socket]

sounds pretty good to me

[waxen berry]

My face when you make a mod better by removing stuff, not adding

Anomaly moment

[ebon tusk]

[vague falcon]

i just downloaded the first one is there any mods that i need to have

actually just how do i get mods

[bright wigeon]

in the first playthrough it is recommended to play the vanilla game

[vague falcon]

ok

[fiery fulcrum]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KMzJjtrKPx0&feature=share

[gusty geyser]

So is there any reason to play base anomaly over gamma ?

[ebon tusk]

You don't want all the overbearing muh realism hardcore survival crap,Anomaly tries to do the same but it ends up a lot less aggressive and a lot less focused

doesn't matter they all pale in comparison to the true best option Old World

I will suck it off for the end of times

[gusty geyser]

ill check that out. That more like normal stalker ?

[ebon tusk]

Yhea,it's a total overhaul of progression,gunplay and graphics to make it more in line to the original games

[gusty geyser]

awesome cheers. Just about to finish CoP and wanted some more stalker stuff.

[ruby citrus]

try Oblivion Lost Remake for SoC

[distant orchid]

Frankly there is no reason to play base Anomaly in general anymore. If you want normal stalker sandbox experience you either play CoC or Old World, if you want singleplayer Tarkov you play EFP and if you want Anomaly but better (survival sandbox) you play GAMMA.

[wicked kernel]

I must be missing something, is there an actual good oblivion lost remake???

I downloaded it and it just replaced all the gun enemies with military, it was just base SOC ._.

[ruby citrus]

well uh a mod called Oblivion Lost Remake? version 2.5

[wicked kernel]

what the hell did I install, then, this is completely different

ugh, I got this one https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-oblivion-lost-30/downloads

[ruby citrus]

3.0 will release someday in the future

lol

[wicked kernel]

this one sucks so bad, it just adds like izlom, and bandits and etc are military guys now

[ruby citrus]

why does it have limansk

[wicked kernel]

good question :D

wow you know what i must have been cheated

[ruby citrus]

oh btw a mod on CS's first concepts would be cool lol

[wicked kernel]

I saw a video on OLR and the lab with the prototype burers was so cool, I guess I got fooled into downloading the wrong one

[ruby citrus]

kinda sad devs of OLR are shit but still

best stalker mod out there, granted it's mostly restored concepts of the original team

[wicked kernel]

do you know a download? moddb just has patches

[ruby citrus]

wait a second

[ruby citrus]

https://www.gameru.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=54066

[wicked kernel]

thanks man :)

[ruby citrus]

i heard olr's english translation is kinda bad

but what can you do

[wicked kernel]

ahhh better than not understanding at all

[gusty geyser]

thanks man. Other than the reclamations mods I'm real new to the stalker modding scene.

[bright wigeon]

Wanna join me and my homies in the test group of my super mod compilation for call of chernobyl? We have cool freedom proto-exoskeleton

And also, cool freedom vanguard suit

[ebon tusk]

ew

[bright wigeon]

thats drip

[wicked kernel]

well for a man so close to vanilla roots i did not expect you to go anomaly route and add super militarized unrealistic uniforms

[bright wigeon]

I never criticized the suits, my problem with the anomaly is that I hate the misery and all that nonsense about having to craft even toilet paper to wipe your *ss

so much is this that my ogs has extensive weapon mods and hd models

[wicked kernel]

sorry to bug, but do you know why my gun's ammo pool is constantly at 0 despite me having ammo? -.- cannot reload, no clue why its doing this...

nvm i have to put the ammo in my belt, biggest mindfuck ever

[ruby citrus]

heheheh

[upbeat vapor]

Ugh, helmet proportions...

Ugh, phone screenshot

Don't you know F12 exists?

[oblique lion]

Hello! Can someone advice a good mod, please? I completed the whole series and some even a couple of times, especially CoP.

[waxen berry]

NLC 7

Hard edition

Best mod for stalker

Hard to find the right version but I have the download links

[ebon tusk]

Spatial Anomaly and Winds of Time are cool ones from what I remember

[bright wigeon]

I dint have time back them

[upbeat vapor]

Let me tell you something

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-no-way-lies-i-dont-believe-you-anchorman-gif-5410485

[lunar kettle]

Everything is cliping into everything else
None of the gear fits the artstyle
Cool

This is why HD models are a meme

[chilly anchor]

Hello everybody! I just have a quick question about COP Gunslinger Mod. Does anyone know how to increase footstep sounds (for my character especially)? It's so low comparing to ambient and weapon sounds. Thanks in advance!

[bright wigeon]

That is not hd model

Is a old mod for coc 1.3

[gusty geyser]

Speaking of Gunslinger. My antivirus went crazy when i tried to download that.

[bright wigeon]

it's because gunslinger downloads stuff through its install executable, you have to disable the antivirus

[ebon tusk]

Im pretty sure it's BC Gunslinger uses code injection to install files in reality,th mod isn't that new,back in the day that's how we did it

Correct me if I'm wrong tho

[bright wigeon]

it could be that too, im not sure, but at least in the build I used certain things like atmosfear and absolute nature it had to be downloaded through the installer

[ebon tusk]

Downloads thru an installer don't flare up the AV,code injection tho,now AV's are more wary of that,reminds me of cheat engine being caught up by AV

[bright wigeon]

So, thats it i guess

I never liked this idea of ​​installing mods via installer,for whole standalone games like lost alpha and etc it's ok, but mods that overwriten the game it never looks good to me, besides this take away my free choice to analyze the mod and compatibility with whatever I already have that's why I always unzip the trx mods in coc

[wicked dagger]

i accidentally uninstalled CoP while I had the CoP Complete mod installed. would that have affected my saves or i can install CoP safely without worrying?

[unreal tendon]

steam version has saves backed up in the cloud unless you turned it off

[bright wigeon]

You did well, complete is the worst mod ever made

[lost garden]

Any of you folks recommend a mod after finsihing Vanilla/ZRP? SoC

[bright wigeon]

Arsenal advanced+ hd models

[lost garden]

alright, done put them on note, thanks

[coarse scarab]

Anyone know a good SoC mod that enhances gunplay? wanna go back to it with some guns that looks rad, possibly some gunslinger port or something fairly modern?

need a another playthrough under my belt

[fiery fulcrum]

Solyanka , photographer, spatial , ogsr , dollchan

[fiery fulcrum]

Soc update+

[coarse scarab]

can you link it? unsure which one it is

[bright wigeon]

I think there is already a port of gunslinger for soc

[ebon tusk]

last I heard from it,it wasn't released yet

and I have this strange feeling that they couldnt help themselves and oversteeped their boundaries to make changes to the balancing of the game and add consumable animations,very dreadful

[oblique lion]

Damn, do read every message?

[fiery fulcrum]

1 sec

[fiery fulcrum]

Not really , just the last 25+

[fiery fulcrum]

https://stalkerportaal.ru/storage/torrent/82ed7df15b643b10d61a2c893c11ec1f.torrent

[coarse scarab]

appreciate it, is there any certain way to download it or is it straightforward? didn't see any readme file

[fiery fulcrum]

I don’t think so

It dowlonads a bit long , but that’s it

Ping me if u have issues

[coarse scarab]

got it, thanks a bunch

[coarse scarab]

ïs the game in russian?

[coarse scarab]

yeah i have no clue on how to play this lmao, is there some way to get the game in english at least? @fiery fulcrum

[ebon tusk]

Probably https://www.amazon.de/Oxford-Languages/dp/0199296251/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?adgrpid=87636681091&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0_Hk1OTt-wIVxuzVCh3NPw9AEAAYAiAAEgLVPvD_BwE&hvadid=499060461756&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9051350&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=11805842783051104547&hvtargid=kwd-296363632691&hydadcr=995_2510498&keywords=dictionary+oxford+english&qid=1670631875&sr=8-2

[neat dune]

Noisy Racket#8159 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ebon tusk]

Lmao

if you want you probably can Google Translate most of the Strings,not gonna be the greatest job tho

[fiery fulcrum]

Lol

[fiery fulcrum]

Sadly it’s still in beta , so yeah , you should try locking in the in game settings just in case , but I doubt that

[fiery fulcrum]

Although all the dialogue is the same from the original game , so you can just find some play through on YouTube , and go on with it

[rose timber]

Guys whats the button for breath hold i cant aim to plz help (mod redux1.1)

[oblique lion]

You could have answered in #561139750564659236 too, but it is .ore than 20 messages. 😄

[fiery fulcrum]

Meh , ppl at ru com know mods like no one else , everyone get their answers there

Sooner or later

[oblique lion]

I mean, I asked there the same question there too.

[lunar kettle]

Shadows addon?

[kindred anchor]

Hey can someone teach to how to add mods to anomaly? I just recently updated it to 1.5.2

[ebon tusk]

the same way you'd add mods to other stalker mods

just drop the files in

[kindred anchor]

Thanks you always have my back

[waxen berry]

You can use a mod manager to make uninstallation easier

Don't remember the name

[kindred anchor]

Too bad i wont be able to use this instructions cause the Boomsticks and Sharpsticks addon is for 16x9 screens only

Another mod that i can't download great

[ebon tusk]

you were just spared from playing a bad mods

be thankful ye of little faith

[ruby citrus]

Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5 and 3.0 when that gets released, Lost Alpha DC

[waxen berry]

Just don't play anomaly @kindred anchor

[lost garden]

How much mods can Stalker take before THEORETICALLY reaching the point of crashing no matter what?

[kindred anchor]

True my pc can't handle almost any of the mods for anomaly

[ruby citrus]

depends lol

people modify the engine usually anyway

[waxen berry]

That's not the reason

[bright wigeon]

Depends if its a 32bits stalker or a modified 64bits

[waxen berry]

Depends on the mod, the engine, and the game

[lost garden]

Ic, then i guess it wouldnt mind me injecting alot of mods then

[lost garden]

Know a few Overhaul or Big boi mods for STALKER thats good for a After a Vanilla run?

[bright wigeon]

Hd models + atmosfear + absolute nature + weapons addon = crash recipe

Also, use console comands

[waxen berry]

NLC 7 hard edition

No other mod to recommend

If you want an improved SoC then go for OGSR

But NLC 7 is for REAL men

[bright wigeon]

-noprefetch

[lost garden]

Currently on SoC, forgot to tell

[waxen berry]

Gunslinger for CoP

[ruby citrus]

you mean you haven't completed cs and cop?

[lost garden]

Nnnnnnope

[waxen berry]

CS I can understand

Then why ask for mods

Complete them first

[ruby citrus]

then why the hell are you thinking about replaying soc with mods

[waxen berry]

He's a stalker fan

[lost garden]

Oohh alright then, so finish the Series first?

[ruby citrus]

yes?

[lost garden]

Then ill just write all these down then

[bright wigeon]

or play metro instead

[ruby citrus]

ew

[waxen berry]

Stalker fans try not to think about mods before finishing the freaking series first challenge

[bright wigeon]

Metro 2077 new vegas the last bugalooo

[waxen berry]

Metro 2066

[lost garden]

My potato will turn to fries

[waxen berry]

Sex sex gahahaha

[waxen berry]

Why the hell does everyone here have a potato Pc

[bright wigeon]

Metro 2069

[ruby citrus]

Baldur's Metro 2077: Shadow of New Vegas of Steamworks and Torment

[waxen berry]

I swear to god, I've heard at least 4 people TODAY saying that their computer is trash

[ruby citrus]

the ultimate rpg

[waxen berry]

It's 2022 for the love of God

Get a new computer

How the hell are you going to run stalker 2 heart of freedom rule 34?

[bright wigeon]

Featuring dante from devil my cry series & knuckles

[ruby citrus]

if you're able to run soc-cop you'll be able to run original 33

[ruby citrus]

"If you're homeless, just buy a house, duh"

[waxen berry]

I mean, yeah

What's wrong with that?

[lunar kettle]

No point to new games are almost all not worth playing

[lost garden]

Ill think about when the wallet has eaten

[waxen berry]

Mods still need a good computer to run

[bright wigeon]

Even thas last intel integrated gpu can run stuff, my intel iris xe 80s can run bannerlord on high

[ruby citrus]

person who played 2 games in their whole life

[waxen berry]

He's not wrong

Most new games are garbage

Hell I'm being generous

[lost garden]

Expensive garbage

[ruby citrus]

well yeah if you're only concerned about things as call of duty and god of war

[waxen berry]

Noz, mention good new games

[bright wigeon]

Postal brain damage and postal 4 are good, free pigeon kill 11/10

[waxen berry]

I haven't even looked up cod for 4 years

[ruby citrus]

big ones or mid-indie?

[waxen berry]

Anything

[ruby citrus]

right wait then

[waxen berry]

(He's going to list 50 or so games released this year)

[ruby citrus]

she

[lost garden]

Is Satisfactory considered new?

[waxen berry]

50/50, but factorio is better and I'd consider it old

[bright wigeon]

A game was released this year? Oh gosh

[lost garden]

Cheers, Ill drink to that

[waxen berry]

What about sexuality

[lunar kettle]

The few new games that are worth it
DDLC(granted this is more of a interactive book then a game)
Subnautica(suffers from optimization more then needing a good rig)
ICBM(I played it without a graphics card pretty easily)

[ruby citrus]

gay

[lunar kettle]

Idk if i missed some

[lost garden]

The new ones?

[waxen berry]

Hair color?

[ruby citrus]

lol

[ruby citrus]

товарищ майор у вас и так на меня досье есть

[bright wigeon]

Elden ring was cool

[lost garden]

Sub: Below Zero is a meh but not that meh

[ruby citrus]

NO IT WASN'T

[neat dune]

NozAr#0330 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[ruby citrus]

IT'S LITERALLY THE WORST FROMS EVER PRODUCED

[neat dune]

NozAr#0330 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[ruby citrus]

ahem

[waxen berry]

I don't know what that means but I'll take it as a compliment

[waxen berry]

Based

[bright wigeon]

IT IS, FUN HORSE SIMULATOR LIKE BANNERLORD BUT NO BUTTER

[neat dune]

Sylky#5506 has been warned

Reason: Capital letters

[waxen berry]

Elden ring has many problems

Not a 10/10

Dark souls was better

Anyway, Noz I'm waiting

[lunar kettle]

Elden ring is just open world DS lol

[waxen berry]

(She's going to mention Celeste)

[bright wigeon]

Whi is celeste?

[waxen berry]

((Is that the right name? The game with the trans protagonist and cool difficulty))

[waxen berry]

Fun

Challenging, which is surprising

[bright wigeon]

The Brazilian game? Ill pass

[lunar kettle]

Besides if i want a good medieval fighting game im going to play For Honor since the gameplay isn't just Poke>Dodge>Dodge>Poke

[waxen berry]

For what?

[bright wigeon]

Try bannerlord with realism mod

[waxen berry]

Honor is for losers

@ruby citrus Are you still combining the gamelist?

This should be awfully interesting

[bright wigeon]

Also, bannerlord eagles rising + realism patch is just great

[waxen berry]

Okay seriously you're scaring me

I wanted to keep this to a small count so I can criticise every game

[bright wigeon]

EverYbody, goes to bannerlord NOW

Or warband

Hell yeah warband sacra regna

[lunar kettle]

Im going to have to do my semi annual playthrough of Raven software games

[ruby citrus]

Half-Life Alyx, CP2077, Doom Eternal, Serious Sam 4, Yakuza Like a Dragon, Wasteland 3, Nioh 2, Mortal Shell, Ghostrunner, Cruelty Squad, Fear&Hunger, ULTRAKILL, Black Book, that stanley parable dlc, Deathloop, Sekiro Shadows Die Twice, Know by Heart, system shock remake will be released sometime soon, Road 96, Psychonauts 2, Gloomwood, Death Stranding, SCORN, that recent bayonetta game, outer wilds, outer worlds

[waxen berry]

Okay, this should be interesting

[ruby citrus]

that's like 2019-2022 stuff without some cool indie games

[bright wigeon]

No you're not, push foward the Empire south is taken our butter, KILL THEM ALL

[waxen berry]

Let's do this

[ruby citrus]

if we go back to 2016-2017 there will be much, much more

[lunar kettle]

CP 2077 lmao

Nah im good

Also not stalker mods

[ruby citrus]

yeah lol 77 is more than good

[lunar kettle]

Im sure it is.

[waxen berry]

Gloomwood: extremely short, can't be judged
Half life alyx: locked for VR
Doom Eternal: its cool I guess, but not unreal gold level cool
System shock remake can't be judged because it's literally not out
Outer worlds had so many problems from the lack of any real choice to crappy gameplay
Ultrakill depends a lot on player handicaps instead of being difficult on its own
Cruelty squad is too short again, not as short as gloomwood though

[lunar kettle]

You know when you got remakes in your list that your argument that modern games are pretty good isn't doing too well

[bright wigeon]

Wash your mouth before talk about doom

[waxen berry]

A remake that isn't even out yet and was delayed multiple times

Anyway, some of the games that you mentioned were good but... they were either too short or the previous entries were better

[ruby citrus]

cruelty squad's not short considering there are lot of secrets and replay value due to it being y'know an immersive sim
and what are you trying to say about ultrakill? that if the player knows how to play the game isn't difficult?

[lunar kettle]

Now for my list

[waxen berry]

Cruelty squad is short, I'm not talking about replay value or secrets, but the length from start to end. Keep in mind that it costs 20 bucks

With Ultrakill, I meant that the game isn't hard by default even on the hardest (available) difficulty, you need to set your own handicaps like "I need to get an S" or "I won't use this overpowered gun"

[bright wigeon]

Also, death stranding is boring bye

[ruby citrus]

you know i listed 1 remake in a 25 games list right

[lunar kettle]

You wouldn't feel the need to do so if you had a decent selection to pick from.

[waxen berry]

Let's stick to a couple of games to judge because keeping track of 20 is difficult

2 or 3 at a time

[lunar kettle]

Once you need to scrape the bottom of the barrel its gg

[waxen berry]

To be fair

She sticked to triple A

[bright wigeon]

Roast the new gow time

[waxen berry]

It's haram, I don't play haram games

• the guy who commits war crimes openly

[ebon tusk]

you mean the balkans?

[bright wigeon]

No, the belkans, its all belkan faught again

Call blaze to commit some peacefull warcrime asap

[lost garden]

Can Kenshi be considered "new"?

[waxen berry]

No

[ebon tusk]

no

[waxen berry]

An old game getting updates regularly doesn't count

[lunar kettle]

Anything post 2015 is new to me so idk

[waxen berry]

Else, games like zomboid would be here

For me, new is 2018 or newer

[lost garden]

Heck naw, Zomboid was since 2015, but thats the Full release

[waxen berry]

No

2011

It was officially released on 2011 on a crappy website

Then went to steam in 2013

[ebon tusk]

yhea,icewind dale is not new by any chance and its getting updates till now,well the echanced edition

[lost garden]

Jesus christ thats old

[ruby citrus]

Anything is short if you just rush to an objective, lol

That's a non-problem and even a good thing, because you can play the game however you want. And anyway, how is the game not hard? It takes at least some attempts to just complete another arena in ACT 2, not even talking about bosses.

[waxen berry]

ACT 2 picked up its crap together

But ACT 1 had difficulty spike issues

[bright wigeon]

Skill issue

[waxen berry]

It's like training for two weeks before getting thrown into a first world country using power armor

This is a fallout reference, by the way

Rip first Chinese soldiers

Anyway, back on topic

[bright wigeon]

They are all in san francisco doing cool kung fu fights

[waxen berry]

Anything can be short but sometimes stuff is too short @ruby citrus

Gloomwood, for example, is extremely short

No denying that

Being an immersive sim isn't an excuse

[ruby citrus]

it's in early access lul

[waxen berry]

And you placed it here

So expect me to judge it

You can't use the "it's early access!" excuse and still use it in an argument to judge a good game

Either bring it and allow me to criticise it, or don't bring it up at all

[lost garden]

How about MH rise and Darktide?

[bright wigeon]

They call early access bc it will never be a full release, apart from bannerlord, bannerlord is just great

[waxen berry]

Shut up, you're both WRONG either way

Anyway

[ruby citrus]

It is. There are radically different ways to replay the game and usually in those ways new content is being unlocked. The first Dishonored is pretty short, but the replay value makes for it

[waxen berry]

No it isn't

Deus ex 1 is long

Longer

[bright wigeon]

Bannerlord and warband>>> every medieval game

[waxen berry]

And, surprise surprise, it's an immersive sim

System shock 2 is also long

Same with arx fatalis

[ruby citrus]

wait wait wait, lemme check

[waxen berry]

Check the average playtime for deus ex 1 and cruelty squad

[ruby citrus]

13 hours

is that long?

[waxen berry]

Cruelty squad is shorter despite being more expensive

[ruby citrus]

really?

[waxen berry]

12 hours or long is average

6 hours or smaller is short

[ruby citrus]

cruelty squad if you don't rush the thing takes the same amount of time to complete

[bright wigeon]

Fallout 2 is pretty long for his time, too many side quests and stuff

[waxen berry]

I'm only judging the main story in both

6 hours, cruelty squad. 23 hours, Deus ex

This isn't completion, this is the main story

[ruby citrus]

Anyway, and?

How is this a critique?

[waxen berry]

It means you're paying more

For a shorter game

[ruby citrus]

And?

[waxen berry]

That's a critique

The game is shorter

Gloomwood is even shorter than cruelty squad

We can't judge short games properly because the gameplay elements didn't have enough playtime to get a proper stress test

[ruby citrus]

If you're trying to value the game, which is stupid, then you should value it based on amount of content offered, and not "how fast can i reach the end screen"

[waxen berry]

Amount of content is directly proportional to playtime count most of the time

[lunar kettle]

What was supposed to be a quick review of games turns into a pointless argument

Many such cases

[waxen berry]

At least its civil

(For now)

Anyway, even if we go by your own argument, Deus Ex offers more freedom, therefore more replayability and content

Cruelty squad is good on its own and compared to most other games, but deus ex just can't be beaten

[ruby citrus]

Most of the times. I remind you, we're talking about a certain game in a certain genre and not averages. In case of Cruelty Squad it has a lot of unlockable content and side things

[waxen berry]

Wanna judge outer worlds now? Not sure why you added it

[ruby citrus]

nah, let's skip

[waxen berry]

And we're comparing it to another game in the same genre

[ruby citrus]

i'm yet to analyze it myself

[waxen berry]

Wait, so you didn't play it? Or you just rushed through it?

Either way it's not worth it, it only got a lot of love because it was released shortly after fallout 76

It's not terrible, just average to mediocre in every single way

[ruby citrus]

i've played elden ring but need to spend like a few more months on trying to understand what's so wrong about it, kind of the same thing here

[waxen berry]

Elden ring is too long for its own good and the fanbase is hilariously dumb

[ruby citrus]

I think your criticism was "it's too short for what it costs", which is, well, not true, and i don't think trying to value the game is a good thing, pricing comes not from the quality or the length but from a variety of things that sometimes don't relate to the game itself in the slightest

and like sales exist

[bright wigeon]

No way, they give too many content for hentai creators

[waxen berry]

Yeah, sales exist for other games too

[bright wigeon]

Is just great

[waxen berry]

And no, I was judging the game on its own

Just like how a game could be too long

It could also be too short

Anything below 6 hours is too short for me

Exceptions exist but they're usually built around the short playtime

[ruby citrus]

Dumb? Well, dunno. For me personally it's a mystery why all of the souls games are being praised despite having such obvious issues, the only thing i noticed being exceptional to ER community is elitism

Which is yeah, kinda stupid considering ER is an extremely mainstream game

[waxen berry]

The games are popular because

As we all know

Dark souls invented the concept of hard games

[ebon tusk]

its a suprise that ER became as popular to evoke FOMO,even with JR Martin in the poster name

[ruby citrus]

I don't think the criticism is valid at all then? I can see how a JRPG with 100 hours of mandatory content or a linear game with only 5 hours of gameplay and no replay value can be dismissed, but here the game gives you options on how to play it, and in some way it's even better than your usual old immersive sims

[waxen berry]

And in some way it's worse

I played cruelty squad and dx1, but I just prefer dx1

Not even a story guy, I'm judging pure gameplay here

[ruby citrus]

meh, those games narratives and stories are some of the best in the industry

[ebon tusk]

Cruelty Squad is a pretty lenghty game,but thats just cause Im bad at it

[ruby citrus]

btw that also counts

it's unlikely you'll be able to just rush through everything without giving at least some attempts

[waxen berry]

Funny fact, that applies to every game and depends on player skill so it doesn't really count

[waxen berry]

Bar isn't high tbh

[ruby citrus]

in this case we should take the averages then

anyway any other games you wanted to talk about?

[ebon tusk]

Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous

[ruby citrus]

[waxen berry]

Eeeeeh

There was doom eternal

And gloomwood

But one literally only has a 2 hour demo

[ruby citrus]

Eternal is really cool in the way that it's something radically new in AAA industry

With the game itself being pretty lit

[waxen berry]

Wha

Elaborate

Doom eternal didn't invent fps games, or arena shooters, or boomer shooters

Maybe in the triple A industry

But I could name older games that play similary

[bright wigeon]

Brutal doom >>> every fps ever made

[ruby citrus]

1. The market is overflown with CoD-like FPSes and third person shooters, 16 and Eternal kinda shook it up.
2. Compared to boomer/arena shooters Eternal is really different

[waxen berry]

1. The market is overflown in general, regardless of genre.
2. Different isn't really always good, map design, while an improvement over other games, isn't that good here

[ruby citrus]

I'm sorry, but isn't it obvious i'm doing an accent on the "with cod-like and third person shooters" part and not "the market is overflown"?

[waxen berry]

Okay so

Even if we go by your statement

I wouldn't agree either

[ruby citrus]

And secondly, but it is good

[waxen berry]

If anything, there are too many boomer shooters

[waxen berry]

Compared to old boomie shooties?

Compared to mods for old games?

[ruby citrus]

"radically new in AAA industry"

[waxen berry]

It's good, but not unique

[ruby citrus]

in indie segment perhaps

but it's a non-issue

[waxen berry]

Like there are any triple A devs besides ubisoft and EA

It's not new if we include older games

New and not terrible, yeah

But it didn't invent the genre even if we include triple A games

Or even refine it

[ruby citrus]

Older games? You mean how old?

[ruby citrus]

but it literally did lol

[waxen berry]

10 to 20 years old

[waxen berry]

Okay, how?

The level design isn't better than unreal, so that's a no

And yes, unreal was made by a triple A company

The weapon design is generic

Not in a bad way

It had a couple of cool new options

[ruby citrus]

a unique gameplay loop and an accent on enemies requiring different tactics and different weapons, not an exactly new concept but i'd say eternal perfected it

[waxen berry]

It didn't

Unreal gold, again

I want to mention other examples

Because you probably haven't heard of that one

But I can't think of any off the top of my head

[ruby citrus]

1998 is a pretty long time ago y'know

[waxen berry]

So what are we arguing about now?

You said doom eternal perfected a "unique gameplay loop" which isn't really unique

Are we comparing doom eternal to other triple A games?

[ruby citrus]

what

[waxen berry]

Like I said, I don't know what your argument is

Are you saying that doom eternal perfected FPS, or is just better than modern games?

Because in the case of the former, it's not true, while with the latter, it's true but that's because the bar is hilariously low

I literally can't name a triple A FPS game that isn't trying to look like cod

Modern triple A FPS

Alright, borderlands 3

But whether it's good or not is up to you

And I wouldn't compare it to DOOM

They're both trying to do different things

[ruby citrus]

firstly, i said "it perfected the concept of enemies requiring different approach" and not the thing you wrote
secondly, like, you said Eternal didn't do anything new compared to old/modern retro FPSes which i think is wrong

that's what i'm arguing about

[waxen berry]

Go ahead