#⭐┃nospoilers_general

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worthy lagoon
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Which is why i have high doubts that it will have the same good vibes as Stalker trilogy

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Especially in modding

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Probably they were making the game in UE4 but moved to UE5

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Since they are working on it for like 4 years

primal copper
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I think they stated modding will be available some months after the release

primal copper
worthy lagoon
tired anvil
primal copper
tired anvil
worthy lagoon
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The fact that STALKER 2 does have that high requirements also gives me doubts about how the low-medium quality will actually be

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Since UE sucks a lot when you reduce the quality

tired anvil
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To be fair, what doesn't when you go low enough

wanton marlin
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the quality of this game is up in the air. i plan on keeping my eye on how they handle release. i fully expect the team to continue development of the game after "release". I turned my attention towards other things until a buddy told me about the whole NFT situation so here I am.

i can't think of any examples other than Fortnite and Rocket League to counterargue, but that hardly counts imo

worthy lagoon
tired anvil
coarse reef
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I don't know why you expect GSC to release a game on a 2 decade old engine in 2022

worthy lagoon
coarse reef
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How is it good

tired anvil
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It's pretty chad, but we gotta cope feels_bad_stalk

wanton marlin
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based

tired anvil
worthy lagoon
tired anvil
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Well

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Dezowave doing that if you count it

coarse reef
tired anvil
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Just with the old S2 and X-Ray 2.0

worthy lagoon
tired anvil
worthy lagoon
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I don't need a super cool graphic to enjoy a game

worthy lagoon
coarse reef
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It's not just about the graphics

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The xray engine is a mess

worthy lagoon
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It's not a mess, it's an anomaly

coarse reef
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It just wouldn't be possible to make a game on the scale of S2 on it

worthy lagoon
tired anvil
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The AI is also better than what modern titles crank out. Nobody can compete with my smart covers and A-Life 😔

worthy lagoon
full estuary
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ayy lmao modern titles aim to please zoomers and popular genres of games for money

worthy lagoon
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I want the good and old levels on STALKER 2

tired anvil
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Idm it not being levels, wonder how the underground will work though

full estuary
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only good game that released last year was farming simulator pog

worthy lagoon
tired anvil
worthy lagoon
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Also levels actually made so that they would put lot of efforts into mapping

tired anvil
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Farm Sim, Forza and Fifa Sure_I_am

full estuary
tired anvil
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Levels were kinda based though

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The fact that you need to load into one just meant that devs had to actually put stuff in

worthy lagoon
tired anvil
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When it's a big world you can leave so many empty spots

worthy lagoon
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Ye

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Another reason to have doubts

gusty trench
worthy lagoon
coarse reef
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From what we've seen so far the game world looks pretty great, we haven't seen much tho

gusty trench
worthy lagoon
tired anvil
worthy lagoon
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Or you meant the levels

tired anvil
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Yea Mez wassup

worthy lagoon
gusty trench
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The Underground levels wouldn't work properly on X-Ray if they were part of the already existed location.

worthy lagoon
gusty trench
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Oh god. I have to explain everything.

worthy lagoon
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Whatever, we'll see

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I am curious what modders are going to do

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If they are going to re-create STALKER 2 on xray engine

coarse reef
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That wouldn't be possible

worthy lagoon
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That's what you think

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Surely maps and such

gusty trench
tired anvil
worthy lagoon
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But still

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Levels are chad

primal copper
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i prefer the open world aproach

full estuary
worthy lagoon
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Since you can travel wherever you want without problems anytime

coarse reef
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cop yes, but most of the other games nah

sonic rampart
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All of the games had pretty big maps for the time

coarse reef
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they were big but not exactly open

sonic rampart
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They weren't the biggest, but were probably the most detailed for their size

coarse reef
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like limansk for example, is it a big map? for sure, is it open tho? not really it's basically just 1 corridor

worthy lagoon
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But the approach was different, since it was based on the story

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Without mainly talking about the current technology

earnest urchin
worthy lagoon
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I was used to play it on my old laptop for years

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With static lighting

earnest urchin
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sure

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i always played Stalkers on low since not good PC but not that low they look better than other games on low but still

toxic vector
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i hope GSC game world wont go the same lazy path as Bethesa and create a half ass game like fallout 4

worthy lagoon
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You might be surprised how some games really does look unplayable on low settings

earnest urchin
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lol people here write apocalyptic scenarios

worthy lagoon
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He's right though

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We are in 2022

earnest urchin
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even if its not like ''old'' stalkers its still gonna be better than whatever bethesda did in 10 years of for that regard any FPS in the last decade.

worthy lagoon
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Games nowadays sucks and are scams

earnest urchin
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yeah but not every game

worthy lagoon
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Indie>AAA

earnest urchin
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indie sucks

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overrated af

worthy lagoon
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No lol

earnest urchin
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they do

worthy lagoon
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It's the opposite

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Indie games are underrated

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Compared to AAA games

finite dragon
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Hi guys

earnest urchin
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every 2nd indie game is just copy cat of previous one or some famous one

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literally that

worthy lagoon
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What about Omori?

earnest urchin
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but i am sure GSC wants to make S2 success after working on it so long

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so lets just pray

worthy lagoon
gusty trench
earnest urchin
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never heard of omori i don't really like indie games since like i said they all the same just like AAA in few years

worthy lagoon
finite dragon
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Thank you all for your attentionkuznetsov

worthy lagoon
warm hawk
tired anvil
finite dragon
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Nikoli is typing????

worthy lagoon
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I've saw way more indie games in the last years rather than AAA games

worthy lagoon
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It's an illusion

warm hawk
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Yes

finite dragon
finite dragon
worthy lagoon
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See

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It wasn't the Nikolai you were thinking

finite dragon
warm hawk
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Numa Numa

crimson tinsel
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wait

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I think I've made a discovery

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Marked one is actually Strelok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🙀 🙀

deep lily
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fake

crimson tinsel
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real!

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I also couldnt believe it at first

deep lily
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how do you complete task "kill strelok"

crimson tinsel
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you die

deep lily
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😮

crimson tinsel
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once you die you hear the PDA's sound

deep lily
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true

coarse reef
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Is that the real Cardan

deep lily
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yes

coarse reef
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Howdy :)

crimson tinsel
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Cardan

deep lily
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give me vodka so ican fix weapon

crimson tinsel
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Fix my item 62

deep lily
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What? Item 62????

coarse reef
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You don't need vodka to fix weapon you need vodka to upgrade weapon

warm hawk
deep lily
crimson tinsel
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hands in the item 62

deep lily
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what mods do you guys play

crimson tinsel
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no mods

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only vanilla

rustic elbow
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imagine studying for tests and school instead of just following the answers the Monolith give you

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so cringe

deep lily
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more then 80% of my life ive been playing vanilla

crimson tinsel
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Gauss rifle

deep lily
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😮

crimson tinsel
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the best weapon you've worked on

wicked sleet
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i'm really enjoying gunslinger

crimson tinsel
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gunslinger?

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oh

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that's a mod

deep lily
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ive been playing A.R.E.A its very hard

wicked sleet
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as hard as burers in gunslinger ?

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cause those are bloody nuts

deep lily
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everything is hard in area mod, trust me

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you can die in 1 hit by practically everthing 👍

dusk oasis
pallid onyx
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how do u stream anomaly on disc

coarse reef
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put a finger up your ass

dusk oasis
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On game activity I think?

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Something like that, or you just stream application from the vc, sorry that's the best I can do I'm not at my pc

sonic rampart
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Anomaly should be automatically detected by discord while in game

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You just have to press the stream button

exotic bramble
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yes

solid dome
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#⭐┃nospoilers_general message

In relation to what Mez said....

Not meant to be the judge on people, alas most of them (not saying YOU, Mez, for a reason) are so convinced when saying X-Ray isn't worth any more time as if they know the core of the engine like the back of their hand. Let me break it to you all... You only repeat the usual blah-blah.

I'm neither stating its a good or a bad engine, it's what people were capable of doing or were forced to have due to multitude of circumstances at the given time.. you don't like it, you don't use it, you don't play the games.

If we take the engine had been used even now and it was XR 2.0, it'd be a MAJOR rework having no code left of the old version whatsoever / cause no real, certified software programmer leaves leftovers, therefore people constantly throwing the "X-ray is trash and would have been disaster if used for ST2/Xray is a leaking bucket, so on" mantra are nothing but tinfoil hats - I'd have said "spoiled [redacted]", though rules don't allow for it.

exotic bramble
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holy moly that's alotta words

solid dome
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Yeah, nothing is a lot if you can comprehend it

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That's the sole truth with the X-Ray "situation" some individuals make - one doesn't need to have degree in mechanical engineering to understand

earnest urchin
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you can use the same argument for the ones wanting x-ray engine

solid dome
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You better use one unique aka non-interchangeable argument

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If you think which one is it, you're set

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The one that applies since the ancient times

grand pendant
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that major rework wouldn't happen cause gsc got tired of xray's crap

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literally everything is possible in xray, if you find a way to do it, which is usually the uh... "hard" part

solid dome
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Correct

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One of the engines you can really tear apart to pieces and make it work the way you want

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If you are capable of that

abstract wadi
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Not an expert in game engines and stuff but: u played the game? U enjoyed it? If the answer is yes then the engine had accomplished its job

solid dome
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No need to be expert

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Some people take their time learning Blender. Bang, they are building whole models themselves with no CAD data in months

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Same if you take your time learning how the whole code is structured together

grand pendant
solid dome
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That same argument or more of a saying, "Nothing is better if you build it by yourself" is what I refer above

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It's a whole different matter that GSC doesn't want to venture into

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If they had the portfolio of Bethesda, you sure as heck they would do that

abstract wadi
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I mean , I'm trying to survive in Stalker Anomaly and in terms of "just looks" it holds up really well.

solid dome
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They just don't want to do it cause the risk of investing and having literally, 50% or less returned of that investment

fierce trench
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Remaking X-Ray would've been reinventing the wheel, and they need to focus their resources on actually making the game good. I can't see how there's anything UE5 can't do that X-Ray could.

solid dome
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No other logical explanation

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With customers changing every day, some for better, some for worse, you can't be sure if you do a BRAND NEW engine, you'll succeed at all

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Better play it safe

grand pendant
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yeah ^

abstract wadi
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I personally see no negatives in using unreal engine. They have more time focusing on the content of the game. The content is the most important anyway

fierce trench
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They're no small company at this point, but even they can't just throw away precious time for something that might not even be better than the already existing alternatives.

solid dome
grand pendant
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it would be very cool to have xray 2.0 by 2022 standards even if it wasn't as good as ue5 or any different, coming from an old fan with nostalgia. Makes no difference to new gsc

solid dome
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It's the risk and also being a small studiio

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GSC is nowhere near big and never was

grand pendant
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bruh?

abstract wadi
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If they do a good job. Who knows
Maybe Microsoft will buy them like Bethesda and Id

grand pendant
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like +300 devs small?

solid dome
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How many employees GSC had 2 years ago?

tired anvil
solid dome
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They have 300 atm

tired anvil
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Over 300

solid dome
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May shrink to 100 in a year

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That they have temporarily 300 doesn't make them permanently huge studio

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And how do you know if those 300 are exactly pure employees

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Freelancing work exist

tired anvil
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Okay explain to me one thing then

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How tf do people consider 4A a huge studio with ~70 employees

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But then call GSC a tiny indie with over 300

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I have never understood that

solid dome
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It's not the numbers

final charm
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😳

solid dome
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It's the portfolio and presentation of work that make you big

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Numbers are just ink on a paper

tired anvil
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Yea, because 4A has made so much lmao

solid dome
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They made a huge impact with Glukhovsky

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That's why

tired anvil
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Yet so has GSC

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Both of them have an impact

fierce trench
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And GSC made a massive impact with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

tired anvil
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Yet one gets treated like it doesn't exist, despite being grander

solid dome
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The dough here can be thrown left and right ad infinitum discussing such thing

fierce trench
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Calling them indie devs is nonsensical. No indie studio has the resources for a project of this scale.

solid dome
abstract wadi
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Is it true they once tried to use the Cryengine to make Stalker 2?

grand pendant
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and selling 9ver 4M copies by just 2010 in just stalker

solid dome
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Plus the THQ situation back then

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THQ was real mess and shouldn't haven't been chosen a publisher in the first place

grand pendant
tired anvil
abstract wadi
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Ohhh

ashen axleBOT
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🥃Госмейн🥃#7529 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fading needle
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хай

solid dome
fading needle
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pzds

grand pendant
solid dome
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I'm talking the breakthrough product that was SoC

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Since GSC considers those... DLCs... Expansions...

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Were they?

grand pendant
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if it wasn't for thq then no SoC bro, i think you know that

solid dome
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Dean Sharpe, eh

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Imho, GSC didn't even know where to go back in 2003-2004 when it comes to publishing

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It was hellish crossroad I can imagine

tired anvil
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So looking at Wikipedia, the best source for anything, Metro sold 1.5 copies by 2012 (released in 2010). SoC sold like half a million in it's first two weeks in the CIS region alone

solid dome
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100 paths out of 1 being the right one

grand pendant
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of course, and you can see all those paths branching out of the line in hindsight. But it's just a straight line for them

solid dome
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Out of all this one thing can be seen clear

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Epic is what THQ was back then

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Saving the thing

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Wicked conclusion is wicked

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Even if not so, GSC keeps telling us, fully convinced, that funding is already a settled matter

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Though that falls into a different category of talk, beyond the context of current 1

abstract wadi
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I got Shadow of Chernobyl for free from a gaming magazine that only costed 3 dollars

solid dome
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One guy around here earlier said something about mods

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Let me find that if I can, I wasn't around up until 1 hour ago but was still muted so couldnt reply

fierce trench
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But anyway, GSC could remake X-Ray if they wanted to, but it would've been a very dumb use of resources that wouldn't bring anything new to the table.

grand pendant
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except maybe satisfy my wet dreams but yeah

solid dome
fierce trench
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If UE4 were still the latest engine, I could maybe see them doing it.

abstract wadi
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I wonder what engine does Doom 2016 and Eternal use?

solid dome
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Yeah @full estuary except same goes for Stalker 2, as it'll literally have mechanics found in mods. That argument doesn't hold much water there, is okay thou

grand pendant
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dude, CS had mechanics found in mods

solid dome
grand pendant
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and it was made less than a year after SoC

full estuary
abstract wadi
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So made by them
Nice

solid dome
full estuary
solid dome
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You literally said devs take what modders build, it's true

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It's a sad depressing truth

vale quartz
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do we know how many of the og team are still in GSC?

solid dome
solid dome
grand pendant
solid dome
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I'd guess 5 peeps tops

tired anvil
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Well, we know 3 for sure

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The Grigas and Iassenev, forgot about any others smile_scar

solid dome
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A-life master, the Grigas bros

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Yeah

grand pendant
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actually 4 then, manowar

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og xray dev

solid dome
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What was he? Senior programmer or something else?

grand pendant
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not sure

fierce trench
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Them having Iassenev back on board is already a very good sign. Man's got mad skills.

solid dome
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Could have been some Ubisoft pisspot, indeed

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At least one legend

tired anvil
solid dome
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Are you even following the flow of the conversation here, pal

tired anvil
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Well, trying to. When both man0war and Iassenev are programmers, I'm not sure which one you mean

solid dome
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Check this out

tired anvil
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Both are also legends in the community

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So you consider Iassenev pisspot

solid dome
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Could have been some Ubisoft pisspot, indeed
Indicating could have been some1 less talented on his place

finite dragon
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computer comes in 11 days

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ryzen 5600g+rx5500+8gb ram

solid dome
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I have no idea what position Manowar had tbh

tired anvil
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I'd need to ask someone who knows more than me about Manowar, but afaik he was responsible for some leaks after things went south and a lot of programming

solid dome
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I'm saying if it isn't Iassenev it could have been someone who has no real idea of A-Life and how to replicate that in the new engine and improve after

tired anvil
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Aha, alright

solid dome
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Which itself can do more damage than anything else

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Gaj thinking I'm sort of hating on GSC now

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Except it's otherwise

tired anvil
solid dome
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Oh, Ivantsov

fierce trench
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It's less about someone new being unsuitable for the job and more about them having someone who is proven to be skilled. It's reassurance.

solid dome
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Got you

grand pendant
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yeah so lead game network programmer

solid dome
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^

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Man did good job then

finite dragon
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i wonder how good my computer would run stalker

grand pendant
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he still does

finite dragon
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i have a 185hz moniter

solid dome
grand pendant
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know about the 1.0007 soc update? he's probably the only one working there

finite dragon
solid dome
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Or that was 1.06?

fierce trench
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Didn't he save the multiplayer from the GameSpy collapse?

solid dome
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Thought it's about how the multiplayer was made

grand pendant
solid dome
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Some games just can't be switched to another service in a matter of days, even weeks or months

grand pendant
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just that it's coming

solid dome
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I have no visual clue of any fan made patches

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I don't use them or follow the development behind such

grand pendant
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wdym fan made patch?

solid dome
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Isn't that a fan made patch?

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I hella doubt GSC jumped onto 1.0007

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😄

grand pendant
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look on steam

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check betas

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there is already pre-1.0007

solid dome
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What the...

grand pendant
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this is old news btw

solid dome
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Could be some hardware compatibility patch

fierce trench
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Shadow of Chernobyl was also one of the first games to be supported by Proton.

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Or the other way around.

solid dome
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@novel briar The Cossacks 1 promise gets delayed by a day

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Ooops thought I'm in DMS

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DMs mate

grand pendant
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you ping the person you dm?

gusty trench
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I do it sometimes, too zak

solid dome
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Yeah bad habit

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Sometimes I even do it in DMs

fluid abyss
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when does stalker 2 take place?

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in terms of the plots of the other games

grand pendant
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after CoP

fluid abyss
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cool, maybe we'll see some recurring characters

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in glorious full hd

grand pendant
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Strider so far

fluid abyss
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who is strider again

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I don't really remember any of the character's names

tired anvil
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Monolith dude who you talk to

fluid abyss
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when

tired anvil
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CoP

fluid abyss
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ohh, the guys under the bridge?

tired anvil
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You help his squad, can go underground with him

grand pendant
fluid abyss
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nice

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I didn't know you could go underground with him

grand pendant
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you just have to politely ask him

fluid abyss
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is there any word of which faction (if any) he canonically sides with?

grand pendant
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after helping him

grand pendant
fluid abyss
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cuz I know if you're high enough standing with duty or freedom you can have his squad be recruited by either faction

void vortex
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Guys I found some monolith losers near some bridge. Easy loot

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Some guy didn't even know how to wear his mask lol

fluid abyss
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looks like someone got hacked lol

tired anvil
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The usual

fluid abyss
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I sent em a dm

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cuz usually people who get hacked don't know they've been hacked until they start getting mercilessly banned from every server they're in

tired anvil
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Dang

grand pendant
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how wouldn't they know

tired anvil
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They claim the free Nitro and move on

grand pendant
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so there actually is free nitro?? hold on lemme search the link in logs

tired anvil
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Yea bro, how do you think I got mine 😎

fluid abyss
grand pendant
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because you probably lost the account

fluid abyss
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aside from people @inner topaz you, people DMing you, and getting kicked from servers

tired anvil
fluid abyss
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oh sh it my bad

tired anvil
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I've received those scams in DM's before, they don't even look good

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They send a trash jpeg of a Nitro and the expiration date says never or whatever

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Easiest way to see it's fake

fluid abyss
tired anvil
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Heh, fair enough I guess

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Dunno, I got the free Nitro 😎

fluid abyss
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its always mega suspicious when a friend you know suddenly is like "hello my friend here is free [something of value] for you!"

tired anvil
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Or "Someone called you cute in [random server]"

fluid abyss
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there are scams like that?

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I've seen some "hey wanna join our super secret credit card fraud ring?" ones before

tired anvil
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Maybe I really am cute to them 😔

solid dome
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The real voice actor I'm saying

tired anvil
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I think the character will be canned, with only mentions/references to him being made

solid dome
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Sid that?

tired anvil
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I mean Sid, yes

ashen axleBOT
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sokolovwitdaglock#1600 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

solid dome
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I share the same sentiment then

finite dragon
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i dislike sidorovich

solid dome
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After all sid was like what, 60-something old in the game?

tired anvil
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Never stated, but definitely past his prime

solid dome
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It's time for Sid's relatives to take over the bunker!

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Oh god what if he chose Nimble...

tribal jolt
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noooo

solid dome
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Even though he was only supplying info to him

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A snitch so to say

tribal jolt
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old nimble wont be nimble anymore

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he will be clumsy

solid dome
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Old Nimble, limping in and out of the bunker

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Lmao

tribal jolt
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did they ever say if strelok comes back? not as a protagonist but in any way?

grand pendant
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no

tribal jolt
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:c

grand pendant
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chances are he does though, with niichaz being a thing and one of the cop endings (not canon yet) stating that he works with them

tired anvil
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Lmao the irony

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Got a legit Nitro gift DM'd by a random now

crimson tinsel
grand pendant
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dude how

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randoms gift you nitro every 3 months

crimson tinsel
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Why though

tired anvil
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I was too slow to claim this one because I was making sure it's legit, but the coincidence was pretty funny

crimson tinsel
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How are you so popular

tired anvil
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Gonna be even funnier if my acc somehow gets hacked, because everything seemed pretty much the same as a regular gift

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Though I didn't exactly claim it, so guess it was real

crimson tinsel
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Can I see

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The link

tired anvil
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I already compared it to a legit one that I had a while ago, had the proper discord.gg/nitro whatever stuff

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Whoops

crimson tinsel
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Oh

tired anvil
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Well, it was written a bit different than what I wrote there, but yea

crimson tinsel
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So it was definitely legit

tired anvil
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Yea, quite surprising

crimson tinsel
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Bruh

tribal jolt
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better safe

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than sorry

solid dome
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That's like making sure a ransomware link isn't ransomware

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Kinda impossible if you don't jump the hole ofc

tired anvil
solid dome
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Not like I'm interested in that scam of a system - Nitro itself

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Oh like the discorda-app one lmao

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It had additional a added in the url to avoid the original website link

tired anvil
solid dome
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👆

icy prism
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We have any clue about any info release date about STALKER 2???

normal forge
exotic bramble
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pretty soon

finite dragon
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lol

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Yes, this is a fact

vernal magnet
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my birthday is in 2 days

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pls give gameplay trailer 4 birthday

finite dragon
finite dragon
vernal magnet
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first played stalker when i was 14. now im gonna be 30. and i almost have stalker 2.life is good

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just have to survive another few months without getting hit by a bus or another drunk driver drink

tired anvil
vernal magnet
finite dragon
vernal magnet
finite dragon
vernal magnet
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i hope even after the game comes out we get video featurettes talking more indepth about the games development

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i loved those with the past games

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especially the clear sky promotional videos. the way they talked about A-Life improvements was really insightful and exciting stuff

tired anvil
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You mean one like this one?

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Actually meant this one, but both work

vernal magnet
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these were awesome

finite dragon
solid dome
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Throw in some marinating time, thing needs to be marinated first

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That makes... mid 2028

finite dragon
worthy lagoon
vernal magnet
finite dragon
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Chad sky

earnest urchin
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Clear Sky was my first STALKER game

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the most stable experience

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ShOC wasn't so stable ironically

vernal magnet
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Best visuals for any vanilla game

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that DX10 was spicy

deep lily
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clear sky had good graphics for its time

vernal magnet
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version 1.0004 of SHOC was Buck Wild. once they got to 1.0005 and solved the GPU runout bug and added general fixes it was tight

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not many know that 1.0006 actually introduced more single player bugs when trying to fix the multiplayer and for vanilla 1.0005 is the best experience

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i remember that OG 1.0004 giving me the Yantar camera shake glitch after taking the readings what a pain it was to get past that

deep lily
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i feel you bro

finite dragon
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Honestly Clear Sky received a lot of hate (some of it unecessary even), that is very sad

final charm
finite dragon
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But I genuinely think that storyline, especially at the end did seemed kinda rushed

final charm
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chad

finite dragon
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I just have a feeling that they could've done even more with the story

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But well, still enjoyed it very much nonethless

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Ye I genuinely like CS's levels design more than SoC's

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Even though many of CS's levels are literally older levels of SoC but still. It felt not so grimmy and somewhat had kind of nice feeling

knotty sedge
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CS is my least played out of the three

solid dome
knotty sedge
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I want to play it more but I have harder time enjoying it compared to the others

solid dome
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And that CC mod not many use/used

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I should try playing SoC 1.0 sometime

finite dragon
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Just the game's beginning itself, where you have to capture the whole swamp, go to Cordon where you'll be obliterated by Vist caused many players to ragequit

deep lily
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i really liked the capturing part of the game, but sometimes it bugged and took a while

finite dragon
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Faction wars you mean?

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Ye it could get very buggy. For example your allies simply weren't coming to the point you cleared and to the point which was supposed to be captured by you and them

deep lily
hard jewel
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Im back

finite dragon
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Overall, faction war was a new brilliant idea

deep lily
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i agree

finite dragon
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But it should've been implemented and executed a bit better imo

deep lily
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it would be cool if there was a game mode based only on faction wars

finite dragon
deep lily
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why does clear sky get this much hate? it was pretty good if you ask me

earnest urchin
deep lily
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The Faction Wars? ithink ive played it

earnest urchin
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removing the storyline and only faction wars

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probs

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i forgot the name

finite dragon
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Another could be game's overall difficulty. It really did seemed like it was harder to complete than SoC and CoP

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And plus storyline seemed kinda rushed too, especially at the end, where it became a typical shooter game for some time

deep lily
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hm yes, but there has to be bugs at some point, making a bug free game is impossible

finite dragon
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No doubt

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Also there aren't bugs in Stalker, just anomalies

deep lily
earnest urchin
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i remember my first playthrough of Clear Sky, i sided with free stalkers and kicked bandits out of existence but after that every playthrough the loners just cant get throught the first checkpoints lol

deep lily
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i havent gotten any game breaking bugs

earnest urchin
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so everytime i side with Freedomers in CS

finite dragon
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A tip just in case: DO NOT take bandit's side before you'll go to the Red Forest

earnest urchin
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i like Freedom in CS but dislike them in SHoC

deep lily
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factual

finite dragon
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At Yantar (if you'll be a bandit) Lefty and his squad too will automatically be your enemies

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And it will be impossible to pass that quest

deep lily
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yeah you cant complete the quest then

earnest urchin
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i wonder what happened to the previous leaders of Duty and Freedom after CS.

finite dragon
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Probably died

earnest urchin
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they were cool unlike the ones who stepped up after them

finite dragon
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Krylov could get out of the Zone though

deep lily
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idk

finite dragon
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But really doubt that about other leaders

deep lily
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i never sided with bandits or duty

finite dragon
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Valerian most likely got killed by the Military, since neutral base at Cordon in SoC is competely destroyed and ruined

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Just bandits couldn't and wouldn't done that much damage

deep lily
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Yes, Valerian died in the red forest right?

finite dragon
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Unconfirmed

deep lily
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really?

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i thought he was dead for good

finite dragon
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I mean even after finding his corpse at the Red Forest Valerian (first one) is still at Cordon

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I heard rumors about that, it was said that it was supposed to be his doppleganger or something

deep lily
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maybe its his brother who knows

earnest urchin
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imposter trolllaugh

deep lily
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they might have cut something and wasnt included in the final version of the game but who knows

finite dragon
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Either ways he most likely is dead during SoC's events

deep lily
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yeah

finite dragon
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Yoga is 100% dead. Borov was a bartender during CS and already had a very strong dislike towards his leader

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And since Borov himself is already a leader in SoC then he must've killed Yoga off screen

deep lily
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lmao bandits killing eachother, the usual

finite dragon
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Indeed

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But at Yoga's case it would've been understandable at least, because a lot of other bandits seemed to dislike him

deep lily
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🤣

finite dragon
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Borov lived like a king if he got that fat in more than 6 months

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He was so skinny in CS

deep lily
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he probably ate his fellows

finite dragon
deep lily
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lol vodka probably helped a lot

civic drift
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I'm gonna try A.R.E.A. today peepohappy

finite dragon
civic drift
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Is it bad monkaS

finite dragon
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No idea really

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Borov didn't make it to CoP either. Guess being a bandit leader was a death warrant

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And you would've died sooner or later

civic drift
finite dragon
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He's better than Yoga at least

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Also Sultan is lucky that he didn't got killed

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Or smart, for that matter

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Because he doesn't go outside Skadovsk, lol

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Also Sultan wasn't a leader of the whole bandit in fact

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But rather just a squad's

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Debatable considering we don't actually know how well bandits operate in squads or how strong they are

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Strong as in squads I mean

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Though bandits during Sultan's leadership actually were operating pretty well, but if they actually were strongest (or one of the strongest gang) in the whole bandit faction or not is a question

hard jewel
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Oh mo

finite dragon
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Well fair enough, but I mostly assumed their prowess in combat

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And their chances of survival but yeah

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They will rather act hidden

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Got your point

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They don't seem like they want to fight other factions squads on the first place as well

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Well majority of bandits did fleed from the big land due to crimes they have commited and to hide from the law

deep lily
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i never met a bandit that is alone, they are always in squads

finite dragon
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DEADLY MUTANTS, DANGEROUS ANOMALIES, ANARCHISTS AND BANDITS

deep lily
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opinion on mercs?

finite dragon
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I actually nor love nor hate them tbh

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There are bad mercs and good mercs, just like in all factions

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But basically, they are a lot better version of bandits if you ask me

deep lily
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Yes

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rich bandits

civic drift
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Mercs have a job to do, they don't care about other stalkers unless they are in the way of completeling thier job.

finite dragon
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More elite ones too

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I feel like Military has it worse

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All of their operations failed lol

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Literally every operation

deep lily
finite dragon
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Military is literally the strongest faction but they won't manage to take control of the Zone as long as the Zone itself won't let them to do so

deep lily
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yeah

finite dragon
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Plus they aren't really used to the Zone as other factions are

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Military stalkers might be excluded but not common military grunts and maybe even spetsnaz units

civic drift
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Are they any branches of Anomaly or Call of Chernobyl that are any good?

finite dragon
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Military just needs to realize what's up with the Zone and learn from all of it's mistakes in the past

finite dragon
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Never been much of a mods fan, tbh

worthy lagoon
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It's not that, their morale was really really low due to the massive amount of losses and failed operations, they are really capable of doing their job, but the problem is their morale which also leads to corruption

civic drift
finite dragon
finite dragon
deep lily
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i remember reading some text in stalker that loners and military used to trade together and have good relations but then some corrupt general took control

civic drift
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Military stills takes brides from loners though

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Unless you want the early game AK

finite dragon
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Nothing excluded corruption

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Kuznetsov was openly corrupted in SoC without even hiding it lol

deep lily
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yes

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he wanted money to let stalkers go thru the bridge

civic drift
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And he got my buckshot instead

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Ez money and early ak PeepoHappy

deep lily
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exactly

finite dragon
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I also do love the fact that they humanized military in CoP and actually made them seem human

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Instead of just random grunts you have to kill

deep lily
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yeah it was probably very weird for strelok to team up with soldiers lol

finite dragon
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If you talk to Khaletsky in Clear Sky you will get their viewpoint a bit more, but they're still not humanized in that game to the extent they are in CoP

finite dragon
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But then again they wasn't other alternative too

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There*

deep lily
finite dragon
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Strelok joining bandits? I guess not

deep lily
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nope

finite dragon
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At least that wasn't shown in games

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That he did

deep lily
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a lot

finite dragon
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No idea but by lore wise Strelok always was a loner

deep lily
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Yes he didnt join any other faction

worthy lagoon
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no?

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bandits do fear the military

finite dragon
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Who they don't fear though?

deep lily
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renegades probably

finite dragon
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Ah, almost forgot about them tbh

deep lily
worthy lagoon
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????????

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Militaries doesn't have the worst gear

finite dragon
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He meant bandits, not military

deep lily
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💪

finite dragon
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I mean Renegades are literally Walmart version of bandits

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So they can be forgotten very easily

deep lily
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are renegades enemies with bandits?

finite dragon
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They're allies afaik

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Which is kinda weird tbh

deep lily
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it would make sense for them to be enemies, cause they compete in stealing peoples loot lol

finite dragon
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Because Renegades members (some of them) are kicked bandits

deep lily
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yeah i remember that they also have a special artefact there

finite dragon
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Weird thing is, that Renegade faction contains people that got kicked from their previous factions

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It contains even kicked bandits

deep lily
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yeah makes sense

finite dragon
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So that's lowkey weird to see renegades and bandits being allies

deep lily
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Kinda, renegades are literally bandits 2.0

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bad rep?

finite dragon
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That would be certainly hard but not impossible

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But kicked bandit must've done something very bad to get kicked

deep lily
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maybe working for the loners or something

finite dragon
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And I mean REALLY bad, if he managed to get kicked even from bandit faction

deep lily
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yes

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remember stringov in clear sky? imagine that he was openly a bandit and secretly working as a loner

finite dragon
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Guys do you remember squad of bandits in Agroprom from SoC?

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Have you wondered what were these bandits doing there?

deep lily
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in the tunnel?

finite dragon
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Yeah

deep lily
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oh

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ambush?

finite dragon
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I've heared that these bandits got kicked from faction due to drugs they were using

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That never made it in original game, though

deep lily
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jesus alright

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stalker taking a dark turn

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LOL

finite dragon
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I don't know certain type of it

solid dome
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Tax collector going shambles with his tax collection talks again? /sarcasm

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Okay, Mr. I Steal Your Savings From Under The Pillow

deep lily
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yes best bandit in the zone

solid dome
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I have one and you stole it

finite dragon
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Pillow in the Zone?

solid dome
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Pillow talk, man

finite dragon
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Something I thought I would never hear

solid dome
finite dragon
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Why teeth?

solid dome
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That's whats only left

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Pair of fake teeth

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Tax collector stole everything but forgot the golden tooth

finite dragon
solid dome
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Tax collector is the only bandit everyone loves

finite dragon
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Strelok's mindset seems similar to Duty's one, when I think about it

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Because canonically he destroyed CC

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Something which Duty could've done

ashen axleBOT
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Tax collector#6808 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

finite dragon
exotic bramble
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interesting

deep lily
finite dragon
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Did it though?

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Zone is expending even further and more faster than before

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That's a really serious issue that never got fixed, when you think about it

deep lily
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I have to agree on that one

finite dragon
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Due to Strelok destroying C-Consciousness, that at least tried and was containing the Zone somehow

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But even they couldn't at the end

tired anvil
static compass
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I wonder how big of a threat monolith will be in S2

finite dragon
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They shouldn't be a very big threat imo

deep lily
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yeah

static compass
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Well, by the end of CoP they're pretty much gone aren't they?

finite dragon
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More of a threat would be NIICHAZ

deep lily
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there should be new antagonists

finite dragon
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During evacuation there were still many Monolith soldiers in fact

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But they will be back to normal condition even before Stalker 2 will start I think

tired anvil
static compass
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Considering in the trailer it shows you fighting them near the duga array, I wonder if they're trying to turn that into a new brain scorcher

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Probably far fetched

tired anvil
deep lily
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Yes, theres a new faction that strider made i believe

tired anvil
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Well, considering that's what people IRL thought about it, I wouldn't say that it's too far fetched

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That is one of them, yes

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Yep

finite dragon
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That doesn't seem like it's competely off either

deep lily
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Yes

tired anvil
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It got confirmed by the ARG events recently, last week

finite dragon
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There's a big possiblity of that actually

tired anvil
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It's called "Noon" I think

finite dragon
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😮

static compass
tired anvil
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I'd need to check, but for anyone that followed the pain in the ass cipher, Strider and his boys essentially helped the new Ward faction in some way I think

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Whilst Ward managed to find peace between Freedom and Duty

static compass
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I feel like Freedom and Duty's peace isn't going to last very long

finite dragon
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Another question: If Stalker 2 will take place years after 3 original games, then why or how are those Monolith soldiers still enemies towards Skif in the trailer?

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Shouldn't they already be back to normal state?

finite dragon
tired anvil
static compass
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Perhaps their fanatical devotion to the big rock keeps them in line lol

tired anvil
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Though, it is in Russian/Ukrainian and a lot to read

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It's pretty cool for any lore nerds though

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Has some images in there as well though

solid dome
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If one can take out the text, Deepl does wonders translating that

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Deepl is what Google will never be able to achieve with their algos

tired anvil
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Yandex can be pretty alright too, but some of it is hand-writing, so yea

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I'm pretty sure Meztinos already translated and posted a lot of the text here

finite dragon
tired anvil
finite dragon
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And not whole factions themselves

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Only Duty's and Freedom's squad's in Yanov did

tired anvil
static compass
tired anvil
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There's actually so much text

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Oh I didn't even realise that it's pinned here

finite dragon
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Dead I guess

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If Degtyarev canonically sided with loners

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But that's already an what if

solid dome
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Pinned messages action

finite dragon
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CoP's canonical ending slides still aren't known

tired anvil
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I'd recommend reading the lore from the pinned messages before looking into the future

finite dragon
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At least many of CoP's ending slides

static compass
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Who do you think the stranger made Skif kill?

finite dragon
tired anvil
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I haven't done it myself if I'm honest, but I heard it reveals some nice stuff, like CS definitely being related to C-Con and alike

static compass
finite dragon
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Some lines strongly imply that they indeed are talking about him

static compass
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Considering he's been in every other stalker I'd be surprised if he wasn't in this one

pseudo rivet
tired anvil
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Thanks Crimson Rad_Sign_Heart

finite dragon
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But then why are emissions happening so often in CoP?

pseudo rivet
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Although, to be fair, the Zone did expand in HoC. This is probably thanks to Strelok being trash as heck

finite dragon
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They're happening literally daily

pseudo rivet
finite dragon
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And weren't happening as much in CoP and CS

tired anvil
finite dragon
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Emissions in CoP are happening very often in fact

tired anvil
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Strelok most likely gonna die canonically, or the option will exist to kill him. Which if it does I will take

finite dragon
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When they were rarity in 2 other games

pseudo rivet
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Every day, in fact

tired anvil
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Piece of trash got my homie Scar killed 😔

static compass
tired anvil
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Sid will most likely be dead, honestly

static compass
tired anvil
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By existing and messing with the Zone, Scar had to slow down his ass, sacrificing himself for the Zone, only for Strelok to be a retard again in SoC 😔

finite dragon
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But doubt that he died by old age

tired anvil
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Yea and HoC will take at least like 10 years after CoP

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I mean, guns alone say a minimum of 2019

finite dragon
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So 22?

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2022*?

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Since CoP happened in August 2012

tired anvil
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That'd be my guess. Somewhere in the 2020's

static compass
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If it's like other stalkers I'm gonna assume 2026

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Just cuz that would be 40 years after the initial disaster, would be fitting I suppose

deep lily
tired anvil
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Sure, I guess that's a bit significant, but I feel like it's somewhat easy to say that the IRL disaster never played that big of a role in the series, other than a few locations

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The fictional events in the universe are what made it as interesting as it is

static compass
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I just meant as a time table, all the other games took place a couple years in the future from when they came out

solid dome
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I'm just saying!

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You switch on the PDA to check on the map and suddenly Google pops up

finite dragon
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That would be pog

pseudo rivet
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Ah, yes

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STALKER 2 1986

solid dome
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Classic moment, right

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I'm more keen on Pinball 😄

still nymph
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i need 200CC's of stalker 2, stat.

static compass
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Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if you could play PDA games lol

finite dragon
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I sure as hell hope that they'll add Encyclopedia in S2 back

static compass
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Let me play Galaga in the zone

finite dragon
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Encyclopedia in CS and CoP would've been very good

still nymph
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i wonder just how big the stalker 2 map will be?

static compass
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Fallout has the holotape games so it's possible to add little arcade style games

pseudo rivet
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Fallout and STALKER are two totally different games

static compass
pseudo rivet
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Especially if we're talking about Fallout 4 and 76, which have those games

static compass
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I think that's like 27 miles?

solid dome
still nymph
solid dome
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I've spent so much time reading there

finite dragon
solid dome
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It's like cutting off the quests tab

static compass
solid dome
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Encyclopedia gang and add back the arts, not just a text wall

static compass
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But there will be more to do I'm sure

finite dragon
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I mean yes but still

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Would be kinda cool to see it back

deep lily
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encyclopedia is the best thing about the pda

finite dragon
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Genuinely enjoyed reading from there ngl

still nymph
static compass
finite dragon
static compass
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You can see it in the background when you're talking to The Stranger

finite dragon
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And I already can tell that there will be a lot of things to do

solid dome
still nymph
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i cant go these four months without more stalker 2

solid dome
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You can

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Install Anomaly

still nymph
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how

pseudo rivet
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You can

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Play Vanilla

solid dome
finite dragon
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If you waited all these years you can wait 4 more months

static compass
solid dome
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Vanilla versus Anomaly

pseudo rivet
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I can wait an eternity before S.T.2 gets released

solid dome
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Anomaly takes the crown

finite dragon
still nymph
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i have waited 1 year

solid dome
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Winner takes it all

static compass
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I'm just waiting for a new trailer

finite dragon
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I would've said that these are rookie numbers but I myself started playing in just 2020 LOL

static compass
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Either this month or next hopefully

solid dome
finite dragon
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Would've been hypocritecal

pseudo rivet
still nymph
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i have 20 minutes in stalker COP

pseudo rivet
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1 year is nothing

solid dome
still nymph
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my zoomer brain cant handle it

pseudo rivet
solid dome
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20 minutes!

finite dragon
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4 months is not that much

solid dome
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The man played for about 5 and spent the rest of it in the bathroom

solid dome
still nymph
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i killed a guy in a ship who shot me through a door and then my electricity went off

solid dome
finite dragon
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LOL you killed Noah

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Nooooo

pseudo rivet
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Venezuela moment

solid dome
finite dragon
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Insert sad gif here

still nymph
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how do i do stalker anomaly

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how get

pseudo rivet
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You don't

deep lily
solid dome
finite dragon
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That's the neat part, you don't

solid dome
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Lmao

pseudo rivet
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You haven't even played the actual games

still nymph
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thats alot of donts

finite dragon
solid dome
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Do's vs Don't's

deep lily
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playing anomaly before playing vanilla is a sin

finite dragon
pseudo rivet
finite dragon
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It indeed is

solid dome
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➕

deep lily
solid dome
static compass
still nymph
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fair enough

finite dragon
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Tarkov is completely different game

pseudo rivet
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EFT wack as heck

solid dome
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So, will you install Anomaly with such reviews?

pseudo rivet
still nymph
finite dragon
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Oh mb

pseudo rivet
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Will you play SoC first?

finite dragon
solid dome
static compass
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A bunch of empty buildings basically

still nymph
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gta is bad and makes me want to cry

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will stalker 2 have vehicle? that is question

solid dome
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I thought its about stealing cars

finite dragon
solid dome
finite dragon
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Oh gosh, they were a nightmare in the beginning

static compass
pseudo rivet
static compass
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And well, everything at this point

finite dragon
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I don't think it will have vehicles

solid dome
finite dragon
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But would be nice to see at least some references to transport Cardan and Nitro were making in the end of CoP

static compass
solid dome
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MCVs confirmed

static compass
pseudo rivet
deep lily
solid dome
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Man did Meta broadcast few weeks ago

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50p style

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Cause 720p button was greyed out

finite dragon
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Imagine Stalker's main character being a bandit (that won't happen but just imagine)

still nymph
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not gonna lie though, what i've seen of stalker 2's whole shooting and even looting system reminds me of tarkov.

finite dragon
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Wonder how things would've turned out tbh

pseudo rivet
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Ngl, we haven't seen a lot and it already looked bad

still nymph
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we saw a tiny winy bit

pseudo rivet
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It's been a long time since we've actually seen anything new, so here's hoping they'll improve something

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But I doubt it

still nymph
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it looks, unoptimized, almost?

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i guess?

pseudo rivet
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Basically

still nymph
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Revealed: stalker 2 made in unity!!!!!

deep lily
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made in xray engine