⭐┃nospoilers_general

[finite dragon]

anomaly is good after the stories

[radiant hinge]

Monolith took them out for me

[rose solar]

WAR.

[wild silo]

why not?

[rose solar]

Hey man, it was no problem! :)

[abstract fiber]

ehhhh, i only played CoP before jumping into anomaly, then i went and played SHoC. the games are old and it shows, Anomaly's a really fun looter shooter with survival elements, nothing like the originals at all

[frail kernel]

I liked Clear Skies more. Call of Pripyat is great, but its just 3 maps

[abstract fiber]

they're not required but having the knowledge of the world helps enjoy it

[abstract fiber]

never played CS, picked it up last night

going to play it after i beat SHoC again

[still ridge]

The games go on sale very soon

[mortal sinew]

That’s the exact type of game I’m looking to play rn but I just don’t really want to put time into older story based games to comprehend what the hell im looking at in anomaly

[abstract fiber]

i THINK, THINK that all of the zone's basic info is already in your PDA on game start in anomaly

[frail kernel]

Lucky, Duty are like roaches in my Freedom playthrough. I think they took over Dark Valley and are spawning from there

[mortal sinew]

Bettt I’ll check that out rn thanks bro

[abstract fiber]

so the information on factions, current state of the zone, etc, should all be in the PDA's encyclopedia

i KNOW you only get information on the locations, anomalies, and guns when you encounter them

[vestal basalt]

i can understand not wanting to play the og games before anomaly but i would at the very least look up a summary of the story

[abstract fiber]

so if you want to learn about a location or anomaly, you can check the encylopedia after you encounter it for the first time

[frail kernel]

Clear Skies is just Shadow of Chernobyl Plus. All the same maps with some new ones, a more fulfilling story, it just doesn't like to run on most pcs

[abstract fiber]

yeahhh im worried about that, hoping it runs fine on mine

[still ridge]

Bro what

[abstract fiber]

someone told me to not run it in dx11

[still ridge]

this is making me want to kms

[mortal sinew]

I might just watch some playthroughs on YouTube later

[frail kernel]

If your PC can run The Witcher at High settings, it should run Clear Skies at Medium settings

[modern mason]

[abstract fiber]

someone: plays Anomaly Edillon: dialing the suicide prevention hotline

[frail kernel]

I mean without mods

[abstract fiber]

good to know lol

[modern mason]

mfw Anomaly

[abstract fiber]

i genuinely do not understand the dislike for anomaly's existence. not enjoying the gameplay and the economy and sandbox, that's fine and to be expected

but damn, if it brings people to stalker, that's a good thing right?

[frail kernel]

Don't quote me on that, but The Witcher 3 is a good test for how well your PC can run other games

[abstract fiber]

boutta buy witcher to use it as a benchmark

[radiant hinge]

Monolith is next on my list. Once Monolith is gone I think I win

[coral zephyr]

This

[still ridge]

Not if they won’t play the originals

which is what I see too much of the time

[abstract fiber]

ngl i'm trying to replay the originals right now and the age just shows and shows and shows at every corner

i can understand why people are turned off to them

[radiant hinge]

Too slow. I got to them in the first hour of my playthrough

[abstract fiber]

im having to re-learn how shooters work lmao

[frail kernel]

It doesn't work for most newer games

[abstract fiber]

i can't get kills with anything

[soft ice]

I think stalker should be gatekept

[still ridge]

LOL

[coral zephyr]

Lol anybody who hasn’t played SoC with Oblivion Lost can’t play STALKER 2

[still ridge]

@mortal sinew if you want the best experience you should play the originals

[radiant hinge]

I messed up Duty with grenades.

[dusty sable]

What mods do you guys recommend in addition to anomaly?

[radiant hinge]

Lots of them

[abstract fiber]

i've got like 50 mods alongside anomaly idk man

[radiant hinge]

Reclamation, Lurk

[still ridge]

blindside’s reanimation pack

[frail kernel]

Last time I checked, Monolith were pushed back by the Military. Duty and the Military are friendly so that's probably why they can thrive outside Rostok

[dusty sable]

Top 3?

[still ridge]

Blindside’s reanimation pack and JSRS

[soft ice]

I literally agree dude. I think people who haven’t beaten vanilla clear sky on maximum difficulty should literally not be allowed to play anomaly

[still ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrickbateman-pointing-at-dance-gif-12362561

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-gif-21166005

[radiant hinge]

Yeah. In mine, Monolith wiped out Mil, I wiped out Duty. Now I need to wipe out Monolith whom are hiding in Yantar at the moment.

[abstract fiber]

Trader Complete Overhaul, Arszi's Radiation Overhaul, JSRS' Sound Overhaul combined to work with a lot of other stuff

[radiant hinge]

I hate Yantar.

[abstract fiber]

serious JSRS' sounds are the best i've ever heard

[modern mason]

If you guys really want a cool mod I'll tell you how to install one without downloading it

1. Go into your Anomaly folder
2. Select all files
   3.Delete all the files
   4.You're free go play vanilla

[vestal basalt]

people who havent paypald me at least $200 arent true stalker fans and shouldnt be allowed to play any stalker games

[radiant hinge]

Git

[dusty sable]

Noted, thanks

[vernal magnet]

lmao

[radiant hinge]

Gone git

[soft ice]

True true stay on that sigma grindset king

[coral zephyr]

If someone asked me where to start, I’d always say the OGs

[still ridge]

This

Do this

[dusty sable]

Anybody who hasn't beaten stalker with Misery on the highest difficulty shouldn't even exist
/s

[frail kernel]

Dang, they're in Yantar? That can't be good, youll lose your source of medicine that way

[vernal magnet]

straight up. chris makes the best animations. awesome dude

[radiant hinge]

Plus psy zombies

[abstract fiber]

i think misery was the only time in a stalker game i genuinely had a difficult time just surviving

[radiant hinge]

I don't have enough weed

[frail kernel]

Aren't they friendly to Monolith?

[ashen axle]

Conchobar Rex#9317 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[soft ice]

Yeah, misery isn’t credited enough wiyh being the mod that pretty much started all stalker mod. It’s what gave stalker the reputation it has now as a gritty hardcore depressing game

[radiant hinge]

Yes. But not to me.

[soft ice]

I love the ogs but they are really arcady

[radiant hinge]

Psy zombies suck

[vernal magnet]

me either

[dusty sable]

I loved playing Misery in high school! Very wholesome game!

Do it!

[frail kernel]

Dang. You should probably lead two elite squads into Yantar

[slate pendant]

If your first game wasn't SoC vanilla you should commit sepuku right now

[abstract fiber]

even in anomaly you can get by just fine being a goody two-shoes. misery was the only stalker mod i ever played where you'd have to cap a dude in the back of the head just to take his shoes and crumbs of food to make it another day

[radiant hinge]

I walked into Yantar and there was five of them just standing there with dogs and snorks, so I just peaced out

[abstract fiber]

pretty based

[soft ice]

Yeah

[radiant hinge]

Going back with explosives and a Psy helmet

[soft ice]

I played misery a longg time ago

[abstract fiber]

(((cop IS better)))

[dusty sable]

ACOPB

[abstract fiber]

dyegtyaryev is cooler than strelok don't @ me

[soft ice]

When I came back to playing stalker a year ago I played the base games and coc, when I got to RTTN the difference was literally jarring

[dusty sable]

All Call of Pripyat is Based

[soft ice]

It’s the best story wise by far

[dusty sable]

I enjoyed both CoP and SHoC's stories, but I do gotta say SHoC felt more impactful as a story than CoP

[coral zephyr]

I’m not sober at a holiday party, just came to fool around. Have a wonderful day/night, and enjoy your weekend guys. Peace ❤️

[frail kernel]

My load out tends to be a Remington sniper rifle, any shotgun, and either an SMG or a 9A-91 when I can find it

[dusty sable]

Thank you oh Monolith for providing to us good vibes

[slate pendant]

How many of you finished Clear Sky vanilla?

[dusty sable]

Well, that's it. I'm converted now. I worship the Monolith

[soft ice]

I played coc until a month ago, and I really recommend moving on. You might like RTTN, it’s what I play now, Its genius

[radiant hinge]

Saiga 12 and L185A for me

[frail kernel]

Finished all 3 games in Vanilla.

[dusty sable]

I have converted to the monolith, they have good vibes now because of Prof. Wavey

[vestal basalt]

i did but it was probably one of the most infuriating experiences in my life

mainly the last mission because of fuggin invincible strelok

sitting under the bridge like a troll

[frail kernel]

I go for the 9A-91 cause I'm a weeb....

[radiant hinge]

1lol

I go for Saiga because full auto cannon

[soft ice]

Its “better” if you’re looking at it like a open world survival game. Because soc isn’t that at all. But Cop doesn’t hold a candle to anomaly in that cateogory so I would still say soc is better

[frail kernel]

I'll admit, the Saiga is the best shotgun in game

[soft ice]

Rttn is a call of misery spin-off. It’s in my opinion an all around improvement, and it’s visually really nice

It looks better than misery and it comes with better gun models and such

Also it improved the coc story problems that com has

[midnight python]

The over-under barrel toz will always have my heart

Cheeki. Breeki.

[abstract fiber]

god

[dusty sable]

What is the worst gun in STALKER

[abstract fiber]

i remember blowing through all of the call of - mods one after another before finding anomaly

[frail kernel]

Starter pistol and starter shotgun

[abstract fiber]

i cant even remember the differences between them

[still ridge]

Bro what

[radiant hinge]

I am gonna buy one irl too

[frail kernel]

Anomaly is great cause it doesn't require more than one install

[still ridge]

PMm is literally the best gun in the games

[dusty sable]

I want a Makarov IRL

[soft ice]

Like straight up misery for cop?

[still ridge]

Completely unironically

[abstract fiber]

fax

[frail kernel]

Good luck

[soft ice]

You should try misery+ gunslinger if ur gonna play cop

Its buggy but cool I heard

[abstract fiber]

they have that now? POG

[still ridge]

If you’re gonna play cop you should play cop and then gunslinger

Not misery

[frail kernel]

The PM and TOZ-66 sawn off

[soft ice]

Yeah I think they’re pretty compatible. Don’t take my word for it no

[still ridge]

Oh you’re talking about cringe anomaly

And not chad vanilla

[frail kernel]

Plus it doesn't require the other games

[finite dragon]

try misery+gunslinger+taz recoil

[soft ice]

Misery is really cool because it’s the mod that started it all, but if you want an updated misery like experience try rttn https://www.moddb.com/mods/zoneexpanded-road-to-the-north

[wide aspen]

anomaly is a good mod, accept it

[uncut grove]

9:00
Go to work, stalkers

[frail kernel]

I'm talking about all of them when you consider weapons

[wide aspen]

or dont

[still ridge]

PMm gang

[uncut grove]

No
Addons for Anomaly good

[wide aspen]

yes but anomaly alone is also enjoyable

[soft ice]

Yeah you really have to look beyond the taste less menu art

[uncut grove]

32980 for fix pm? Yes....

[wide aspen]

anyway im going to sleep, Gn stalkers!

[frail kernel]

Anomaly is fun if you just love the Zone and the faction wars

[still ridge]

Anomaly is fun if you like looking at paint dry

Because that’s what gameplay becomes after 40 hours

[radiant hinge]

Just need the license for possession. Only $2000 Canadian

[uncut grove]

Faction war not good

[soft ice]

I wish the rttn dev would fix the gun models and green tone mapping in some maps tho

[still ridge]

I wish the nlc translator would translate things faster

@finite dragon this is a threat

[frail kernel]

Things like that make me appreciate that I live in Texas

[frail kernel]

I love faction wars.

[radiant hinge]

The gun is only $2000 license is $100

[frail kernel]

Part of me wonders if it was all just a fake out

[uncut grove]

But in Anomaly he dont work Well 👀

[frail kernel]

I don't need to add the 100 on it.

[frail kernel]

I just recounted how much fun I had on a Freedom Warfare mode earlier in the chat. The opposing factions work super fast

[uncut grove]

With addon he works very good

[native ibex]

When game is release

[uncut grove]

28 or 26 april

[frail kernel]

Maybe

[native ibex]

That's soon

[soft ice]

Warfare mode anomaly

[rose solar]

WOAH WOAH

[native ibex]

Give freedom plenty of shots

[uncut grove]

Yeah

[soft ice]

Me too

Yeah there was a skirmish when you spawned in always

[uncut grove]

But not here
Anomaly not stalker 2
Dont discuss

[frail kernel]

Either way. I should be getting to sleep soon

Yall take it easy

[radiant hinge]

Fair

[austere surge]

Hello foreign brothers. Are you waiting for the game too?

[abstract fiber]

yeah, who isnt? 🙂

[long harbor]

Fora-12 gang

[static compass]

That's more likes than most of the recent posts oof

[rich pumice]

Canada here, waiting for Ultimate retail

[austere surge]

The game will be released soon and we will return to childhood again

[uncut grove]

Deagle gang

[long harbor]

virgin deagle

only chads use fora-12

💪

[woven bridge]

Awesome

How do I get roles

[uncut grove]

Noooo

[long harbor]

#👥┃faction-choice

[woven bridge]

Thanks mate

[long harbor]

np pal

[uncut grove]

Choose Monolith

[woven bridge]

No

[uncut grove]

Damn. _.

[long harbor]

soldiers who wanted to guard their local town gets sent to the zone instead

[uncut grove]

Vova Vist?

[rich pumice]

Yea but soldiers make mad money at cordon. 500 rubles for entry? Yessir

[long harbor]

my moddb is taking a thousand year to load

[uncut grove]

No, kill 🧐

[long harbor]

you can make more by killing stalkers

[rich pumice]

Bad for business, they shoot back

[uncut grove]

Or killing soldiers

[long harbor]

you have better stuff than them, just choose rookie stalkers with no balls

[long harbor]

or prob just choose a safe post

like the one guarding the swamp gate

flooded with mines and soldiers, you're safe there

stalkers ain't got no balls to go there

I'M SPAMMING RIGHT CLICK WHY IT;S NOT DOWNLOADING

[static compass]

I don't know if this is just me, but I think it would be cool if the game started with a mission entering the zone, then after that initial mission you're free to do whatever

[vernal magnet]

wild windows snippet tool appears

on? you mean with right?.....with right?

whew you had me scared you were killing the coolest doods

[finite dragon]

if the nfts are canceled then...
Why the website is up
https://dmarket.com/stalker-metaverse

[sudden meadow]

forgot to take it down i guess

[potent bluff]

More than 107k join stalker metaverse

It show in Dmarket page

[strange fulcrum]

relax, they only cancelled it a few hours ago. takes time to contact ppl and get them to update their shizz

[sand plume]

Don't forget to vote for your favorite Stalker related mod in Moddb's Mod Of The Year Awards!. I personally have been playing and modding the hell out of Anomaly and playing it for over a year now.

https://www.moddb.com/groups/2021-mod-of-the-year-awards

[celest canyon]

Devs have my utmost respect (they had it already)

@solid dome They actually backed down.

[tough portal]

holy based no more NFT's

i know im late but still

[vernal magnet]

bask in the glory friend

[glad temple]

There is hope in this world

[finite dragon]

Very sad that this is going to stain the games reputation forever

nah some people will probably forget like how flaky they can be and move on

Are there only standard editions for Canada and USA?

[tough portal]

they might go back on it after the games release but who knows

yea but they had investments into blockchains and crypto, i dont think they would just let those go

[tough portal]

no you can get the deluxe and ultimate

[tame mist]

The retail ones are unavailable for me

And a lot of people i think

[finite dragon]

For retail??

[tough portal]

yea the only times ive checked on them they were out, theyll prob be available in a month or so

[tough portal]

i think retail is just the base game

[tame mist]

I just hope I see it soon enough when it becomes available because it's gonna sell out quick

[finite dragon]

Ah, in their website the retail one is all the cool extra physical items but plus all the content, I can just buy it on steam but some of the physical stuff looks cool

[tame mist]

I want that lamp lol

In the ultimate edition

Retail

[tough portal]

i see what youre saying now, i didn't notice all of the stuff. the retail link sends you to a retailer to buy the standard game but the retail page shows all of the bonuses you get. kind of a bad design imo

[finite dragon]

Yeah I’m not worried about not having the game, just all the cool stuff

[finite dragon]

Yeah it could’ve been done better for sure

[tough portal]

yea def a little misleading

[finite dragon]

https://www.stalker2.com/preorder/retail since I can’t post pics

[tame mist]

I think it's funny that retail ultimate is available in tiny European countries but not in the US

[pseudo crystal]

why the metaverse website is still up ?

[tame mist]

Idk

Too much effort to take it down?

[pseudo crystal]

or don't want to take it down at all ?

[tame mist]

I'm gonna get slandered for this but I was actually looking forward to it

[pseudo crystal]

yes you are

prepare to die

[finite dragon]

it will be taken down. it has been only five hours like seriously

[pseudo crystal]

can we be sure they won't pull it again post-lunch ?

[twilit flower]

what's the point in nft, they could have or could still sell these opportunities and items conventionally, or auction them

nft was only to ride on the nft hype wave imo

[finite dragon]

I know right. image that people hating on you for having your own opinion on something that doesn't affect them kek

[errant otter]

think so, because that would just be even worse decision

[twilit flower]

undisclosed amount of charity donation included, to quelm the naysayers

[errant otter]

That said we are still waiting on gameplay and lets just think about that, instead of NFT. Easier to sleep at night now )

[pseudo crystal]

but we can't refund our copies after 2 hours tho
the real threat to them was the number of people cancelling their pre-orders or wishlists

[scarlet oracle]

does agressor reshade work with base SOC?

[finite dragon]

I think steam and randy also had a effect

[errant otter]

Perhaps, but I doubt they want to die on that hill

they probably want to sell us dlc's as well, as they said in the past

[pseudo crystal]

i kinda see stalker 2 going back4blood way

[finite dragon]

thanks god

[twilit flower]

yeah, and the nft outrage was probably just because involving the controversial nfts was the last drop in the bucket. stalker 2 has it all, day 1 dlcs, quests and content behind a paywall. including nfts was just going a bit too far

[finite dragon]

gameplay and story matter more for sure

[glad temple]

Yo, John freeman! Didn’t know you were here

[errant otter]

I am everywhere I need to be

[glad temple]

Lol

[errant otter]

Yes, lets just hope for the best there, bralukas!

[pseudo crystal]

i meant it dlc wise

[finite dragon]

it would be weird if still nothing new going into feb next year

[finite dragon]

There’s already a season pass as part of ultimate no?

[twilit flower]

with all these anti-customer "features" considered, I desperatly hope that they're honest with their promise to provide great mod support and a good stance towards free community mods

[glad temple]

I see it going doom’s dlc route

[errant otter]

yeah

[glad temple]

Almost to a tee

[errant otter]

I think we are gonna see something new this year. Probably a new dev diary

Like a New Year gift, like last time

[twilit flower]

"mod support" has been promised by other developers previously too, and what they meant was to monitise mods

[errant otter]

if they do it the Witcher 3 way, power to them

[twilit flower]

you never know man

[errant otter]

More story = good

[pseudo crystal]

i'm going to pre-order ultimate and wait a week before starting the game, just to check the reviews and some streams

[finite dragon]

yeah maybe
dooms way
one way is more dlcs but things like extra stories or something

[finite dragon]

same

going for the ultimate

I really hope the DLC is expansive, like shivering isles type deal, not stupid little outfits and skins, which concern me since it’s listed there are pre order bonuses like that. Unless they do it witched sag line LVJohn mentioned

[errant otter]

Btw, what is the consensus here. Do we think GSC will try to do a mini game in Stalker 2, like Gwent in Witcher 3? I'd love so much tbh, loved gwent

[vernal magnet]

thank god

[finite dragon]

nothing PTW I hope

like that other game

[glad temple]

That’d be cool, maybe play as strelok for a dlc

[vernal magnet]

i hadnt thought of that i pray they dont add it

[finite dragon]

Would be cool to do something at camps

[pseudo crystal]

i just hope all the cut content behind ultimate and pre-order will be available for everyone later on as purchasable dlc

[errant otter]

yes, like a stalker card game would be really cool if its fun, something like gwent, but not like real cards

[finite dragon]

Haven’t played it, but I heard this is what people came to about new halo

[errant otter]

there's potential imo

[twilit flower]

don't get me wrong, I may still shell out the bucks for the ultimate edition, but I need to see more in regards to gameplay and how the game will be in general before I do that. for now I only see scummy marketing tactics and reading the community in such a wrong way as to cause a big outrage

[errant otter]

Durak is fine, but i'd rather it be something of their own design

[glad temple]

Stalker artifact when

[finite dragon]

I just hope he is a good supporting member and story wise have a road where he lives

[errant otter]

hopefully never and it will be like gwent

[pseudo crystal]

can't agree more, well said

[errant otter]

Its fine, waiting is good

I won't pre-order at all myself, gonna buy it. I never do that

[glad temple]

Same, I shall wait

[pseudo crystal]

i'll wait till the last week before pre-ordering

[finite dragon]

I haven’t played single player but multi was fun, still skeptical on the single player though, my die hard halo buddy said he was disappointed with the open world

But yeah i agree about skill points

[errant otter]

While I generally have set expectations to being not high, I still expect good atmosphere in this game

So far all the press release stuff, the music, etc. Feels like the game will have good atmosphere

[finite dragon]

I can totally see why the worries are there
but I am really on the hopeful good side
good story and gameplay and atmosphere
I hope also to see easter eggs from past games

I hope there’s a “Hardcore” mode, been playing some AREA mod lately and it’s brutal dying in like 2-3 shots but it’s fun

[vernal magnet]

i love AREA. sick mod

[finite dragon]

image finding scar's old weapon or gear in the north

[errant otter]

After e3 trailer with the new music and Zone Dreams track specifically I had my hopes up for the atmosphere portion of the game. It seems good

[finite dragon]

I don’t see it getting the recognition it deserves, so good

[errant otter]

So far at least

[pseudo crystal]

can we mod stalker 2 or it's bannable ? anyone asked from devs ?

[finite dragon]

Isn’t mod support built in

[errant otter]

you can mod the game, you'll get an sdk lol

[pseudo crystal]

thanks

[finite dragon]

yeah mods will be there I remember seeing

[errant otter]

That's official

[pseudo crystal]

officially thanks

[finite dragon]

gonna be some sick mods I can feel it already

I can’t wait

[errant otter]

Gunslinger 2.0 inc

[finite dragon]

mods will still carry the game down the line til stalker 3

[twilit flower]

gsc's stance towards current stalker mods is excellent for sure, that much is clear

which has helped their franchise immensly

[finite dragon]

“Official mod support, granting the crafty stalkers Freedom to expand and enrich the game universe.” Right from official website

[errant otter]

In one of the recent interview from like SoC writer, he basically said the reason Stalker 2 is happening is due to mods, that it helped make the game have player retention and people remembering it, even playing to this day still.

[finite dragon]

yeah nothing like rockstar games....

its sicking how they are towards mods

[finite dragon]

Lol imagine suing people for creating content that will attract more people to purchase your game

[errant otter]

@finite dragon and Nintendo

I mean that person doesn't work at GSC anymore

He almost worked on this game though, but it didn't pan out

[finite dragon]

so bad tbh
to get mods there feels so underground

[finite dragon]

facts
I cant let go

only reason why I got a high end PC was because of stalker mods

[finite dragon]

It’s a confusing thing they have going on, RDR2 has some fantastic mods, but when people try and recreate games or large expansions they get sued, some dude was trying to either recreate RDR1 or emulate it or something and got taken to court or something

GSC having such an awesome outlook on modding makes me excited

[finite dragon]

yeah RDR1 damn would love that on PC

[twilit flower]

still can't believe I live in a reality where the X-Ray engine got ported to 64 bit and crashes less often than modern AAA games 😄

especially the crashing part

[steel finch]

Idk if stalker will have the same gunplay as Tarkov

[errant otter]

Itš Alexey Sytianov if anyone cares

[finite dragon]

Same. I was really hoping all the “leaks” of an official remaster of rdr1 were true. I mean it makes sense, most of the world except Mexico is there lol

[errant otter]

Also are youtube links banned here?

[finite dragon]

same
only games I brought like 10 times was stalker

[errant otter]

https://youtu.be/wdVnZ107184

This is in russian unfortunately, but maybe youļl find a way to translate

This is that interview with the man himself

[finite dragon]

maybe some day
them banning mods from a game
does make it seem that game is going to get remaster
I bet GTA 4 next

[errant otter]

I wish english Stalker community was bigger, so this stuff was easier

I'm kind of in the middle, because I speak both languages lol

[finite dragon]

same

[finite dragon]

Well funnily enough, the most recent crackdowns were on classic gta mods, and then the trilogy dropped - but I want an actual remake of rdr1, not a new coat of paint :/

[twilit flower]

it's polarising for sure. I do hope it will be personally. previous stalker games went the ol' half-life spraying weapons and bullet sponges way, but that's just not modern anymore imo. it will be interesting how the devs chose to implement the gunplay.

[steel finch]

Swaying and stuff

[finite dragon]

Yeah I’m curious on how that will be

remember only four more months til April and S2 is here

daily reminder

[tranquil cloak]

I really hope so, also the gun repair and disasembling mechanic

[pseudo crystal]

Season Pass With Access to All Future DLCs, Including 2 Story Expansions
by all, they meant it ? all future dlcs ?

[finite dragon]

yeah

[deft rose]

That impression about STALKER gunplay was more due to misconceptions about how difficulty actually works.

[twilit flower]

tell me the early game weapons were not inaccurate pieces of sidorovich's finest

[finite dragon]

Honestly this is such a stupid muh immersion nitpick but I really hope you can see your body, first person death cams just stuff like that. Idk AREA has spoiled me lately with stuff like that’s lol, stuff that I rarely look at or notice but “oh wow that’s cool”

[errant otter]

ayyy lets go

its a really good one and it will be really heart pleasing to hear as a fan, some stalker 2 tid bits in there too

[finite dragon]

where at

[twilit flower]

are you referring to the master difficulty hypothesis?

[finite dragon]

sorry I ment the name of the vid

[finite dragon]

Season Pass owners will be eligible to obtain all the post-release downloadable content in addition to the 2 Story Expansions

thx

[deft rose]

They were less accurate than late game weapons, for sure, but I guess most people forget to take their time when aiming and not use semi auto to lead the shots.

[finite dragon]

I hear Russian is absolutely horrendous to learn

[steel finch]

Da

[finite dragon]

Not sure if only to write, or speak too

[hallow solstice]

The early game weapons weren’t bad if you low crouched

[twilit flower]

I'm not saying the gunplay was impossible or essentially unenjoyable, just that it followed the mindset of an older generation of games, like HL (which I am a die-hard fan of, to be fair). after playing modern stalker mods like anomaly with its weapon mods, I got to say I enjoy the more realistic approach much more, personally.

[deft rose]

Exactly

[hallow solstice]

Once you low crouch kills are incredibly easy

[steel finch]

I still think German is interesting

[deft rose]

@twilit flower Read this if you haven't before to know how SoC gunplay works https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/8b6u4q/understanding_socs_gunplay/

[hallow solstice]

Stalker 2 is gonna have generic gunplay I imagine

[finite dragon]

My friend learned German, says it’s not horrible once you start to understand how it works

[hallow solstice]

Just pull down mechanics, maybe some horizontal

It won’t have recoil systems like tarkov

[steel finch]

Guten für ihn

[slow coyote]

Mods and EFT lifted the bar way too much

[hallow solstice]

I prefer games in their native tongues, but it also depends on if I want to read a lot

[steel finch]

Im still learning

Still confuse between using genders

[twilit flower]

yeah, it has its own mechanics and all, which is fine. just not approachable as much from a real life standpoint

[slow coyote]

Still... STALKER SHOC had quite an innovate and gunplay

[finite dragon]

Cries in morrowind

[hallow solstice]

An interesting thing to note is voice actors sound good in languages we don’t know because we don’t know the languages

[deft rose]

Usually it's more enjoyable, but in the Metro games if you play with russian voiceovers and english subtitles, you'll miss out on a lot of stuff the npcs are saying

[hallow solstice]

I read somewhere a lot of Japanese people think anime voice acting is pretty bad and sometimes prefer dub

[steel finch]

Will gunplay matter in stalker?

[hallow solstice]

Authenticity is what we like to see in our media.

[finite dragon]

I don’t kind reading at all, just sucks trying to read subs in combat

[twilit flower]

it better be, heh

[steel finch]

Or just more all the story

[hallow solstice]

It’s 90% of stalker

[slow coyote]

I hope

[hallow solstice]

Stalker has always been shooty shoot shoot shoot

[steel finch]

I thought it’s always the zone and factions

[slow coyote]

they didn't announce a lot of guns tho

[hallow solstice]

Gameplay wise anyway

[finite dragon]

Hopefully there’ll be actual stealth

[twilit flower]

the zone houses so many creatures with dubious intent, that you'll want to keep your shooter close, brother

[hallow solstice]

Yes. I’ve played metro only in English

[slow coyote]

But maybe they realized how full of gun nuts is the STALKER community

[hallow solstice]

33 guns isn’t it?

[finite dragon]

Also maybe I’m a masochist but I Hope jams can vary, I want some farcry 2 level jams where it takes a few seconds, not just pulling the charging handle

[slow coyote]

yep

[hallow solstice]

That’s a fair bit. Not to mention I bet more would be added with expansions, and UE4 will have tons of modding potential for weapons

[twilit flower]

worst are these stalkers who want a piece of the holy crystal. definitely need that shooter to stop those.

[slow coyote]

now that i think about is around what MW 2019 had on launch

[finite dragon]

Have you played farcry2? Those jams were so satisfying, but I’m not sure if it would be TOO much for stalker intensity haha

[hallow solstice]

Guns exploding mid fight was cool the first time. Every other time it was just dumb

[finite dragon]

Correct

[slow coyote]

well, we already had jams... would be lovely to see them like in the arsenal mod

i mean, gunslinger

[finite dragon]

Well just maintain bro

[finite dragon]

Haven’t played gunslinger, what were those jams like

[hallow solstice]

Yeah, but then I miss out on the animations

[hallow solstice]

Custom animations. All misfires though

Casing stuck in the ejector, rack the bolt or slide to make it pop out

[slow coyote]

the weapon jams and the next time you pull the triger, the player looks to the ejection port and there is a empty round stuck

press R, clears the malfunction

[ashen axle]

Not an U w U boi#8281 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[slow coyote]

The loudest ''click'' in the world

look for gunslinger jamming animations on youtube, is worth every second

[hallow solstice]

I’m a bit conflicted on magazines in S2. I like the idea but it also seems slightly annoying

[finite dragon]

Nice, the looking is a cool addition

[hallow solstice]

Would work best as a mod. I’d rather it wasn’t a base game thing

[sudden meadow]

what's the mag system that tarkov has

[sharp maple]

Yay, now let's hope the game is good.

[slow coyote]

Just want to sit in the campfire to load rounds in the mags while i warm up and hear a friend playing the gitar

[finite dragon]

Actual magazines with actual ammunition count relative to that magazine

[remote bone]

yeah but i dont wanna accidentally load my 5 bullet clip when accidentally meeting some shotguns to my face

[slow coyote]

guitar*

[remote bone]

idk man

[hallow solstice]

They said stalker will use more survival elements

Sleep and nourishment were discussed. I imagine it will go deeper than that though

[slow coyote]

still i don't want the game to be overloaded with tons of mechanics, still is more of an arcade shooter for me

[hallow solstice]

Yes, it needs to stick to its roots

[finite dragon]

Might be a pain for them to do, but I think they should have difficulties that change features. So many fans are polarized on features added by mods, vanilla, more hardcore, etc

[hallow solstice]

There will be skill points

[finite dragon]

But if not, mods will come soon

[slow coyote]

yeah... more features with advanced dificulties

[twilit flower]

yeah if the game is really as accessible to modders as the devs promise, then everyone of us will quickly be able to mod the gunplay just to our liking, I'm sure.

[slow coyote]

still that takes a lot of work

[hallow solstice]

Way I see it, let modders add controversial stuff, let GSC make an excellent base game and potential

Modders can do what they want with the game, GSC shouldn’t add anything wild, just make a fun game to enjoy

[sudden meadow]

yeah

[twilit flower]

yup, they should provide a good framework as much as possible

[slow coyote]

yeah, the game isn't for us, is to sell to the masses and make money, let modders do that spicy stuff

[hallow solstice]

unreal engine is highly workable so I’m sure it’ll be fine

[slow coyote]

for us i mean hardcore old time fans

[hallow solstice]

I for one plan on porting the guns from sandstorm in as soon as possible lol

[finite dragon]

It’s not a game breaker to not have hardcore features, but it really elevates that experience, I’ll be happy with whatever base game (base stalker was still good)

[hallow solstice]

Sandstorm AKM is my favorite ak of all time in any game

[finite dragon]

Like Bethesda but with an actual game

[deep snow]

yo so i havnt been paying atention to stalker for the past few weeks

can somone fill me in on the whole nft thing

[sudden meadow]

they wanted to add nfts into the game, the community really hated it, so they scratched that idea

[slow coyote]

still i don't know why i ask for so much, i won't be able to play it in my potato ;-; sorry PC maste rease father for my future sins but i think that i will buy an xbox S just to plat stalker

[finite dragon]

It’s going full mmo singlet player as dlc

[deep snow]

glad the listened

[hallow solstice]

They were gonna let people come into the GSC office to have their faces scanned and inserted into the game as a fee, so you’d have your own custom NFT face players could see

[deep snow]

unlike certain devs

[hallow solstice]

I personally had no problem with it. More models, more money for the devs

[twilit flower]

true, games like tarkov or survival games in general are quite popular nowadays, I think games today can get away with much more hardcore features compared to SoC's time of release.

[hallow solstice]

I think they shouldn’t have phrased it as an NFT tho. Seems like most people got mad just by that word and not knowing what they actually planned on selling

[slow coyote]

I wonder if it will be like... an arena multiplayer like CoD or the multiplayer we all waited for so much time

[deep snow]

do yall think my pc could handle HoC on high graphics?

i have a rtx 3070 8gb

32 gb of ram

[hallow solstice]

Yeah probably

[deep snow]

ryzen 7 5800x

[abstract fiber]

for sure, so long as you've also got a decent CPU

[slow coyote]

I need to buy one... in argentina is cheaper to buy a last gen console than a 1060

[sudden meadow]

well i've got the recommended gpu for stalker 2 so that's good

[abstract fiber]

depends on how intensive the a-life calculations are

but it'll still run fine on that gpu

[vernal magnet]

i would definitely beef up on CPU

[hallow solstice]

I’m sure the Alife will be considerably more optimized than old titles

[vernal magnet]

the recommended for it is pretty high

[sudden meadow]

what do you think the exact recommended computer could run stalker 2 at?

[finite dragon]

The game will still be great regardless. But I’ve been playing a lot of the AREA mod and it’s fun planning. Like okay food, water, 3 mags is 90 rounds, is that enough? Medical supplies? Etc

But that’s not very “accessible”

[abstract fiber]

yeah im gonna upgrade mine, it's the only thing that doesn't meet the recommended for me

[hallow solstice]

A 5800x is top tier dawg

[vernal magnet]

1440p high/ultra

[deep snow]

lmao do you think stalker 2 will fit on a samsung odessy 9?

[finite dragon]

I think the recommended is a 2070

[sudden meadow]

i wonder if stalker 2 could run on my 2006 ipod

and recommended is a 1080 ti i think

[deep snow]

the minimum is a wii u first edition

[sudden meadow]

could it run on my wii

[hallow solstice]

There will be low setting mods I bet

[finite dragon]

Yeah it was like 2070 super/1080ti I believe

[deep snow]

no the MINIMUM is the wii u

[vernal magnet]

either they play it safe and it runs fine with toned down visuals or they really let it flex its muscles and like every previous stalker game it takes a generation or 2 of graphic cards to really crush it maxed out at high resolutions and ultrawide

[hallow solstice]

I’m personally not worried, 60fps is all you need for singe player and I’m above the requirements by a large margin so

[deep snow]

yo so i got a fun prank for my friend

[vernal magnet]

1% lows are always the real concern.

[deep snow]

he has a really bad prebuilt

[hallow solstice]

Bingo

[deep snow]

what if i bought him a 3070 that his mother board, case, psu couldnt handle

[hallow solstice]

Totally playable but I’d be really pissed if my 2080ti couldn’t do more than that lol

[hallow solstice]

Dick move, then he’d need to buy stuff to make his gift usable

[sudden meadow]

so i've got a 1080ti and an amd 5 3600, how well do you think i could run stalker 2

[hallow solstice]

Who knows man we don’t know if it’s even optimized well

[deep snow]

nah i feel bad for him,

[sudden meadow]

i sure hope it is

[vernal magnet]

on the real though as is the modern standard DLSS and dynamic resolution scaling will help everyone get where they need to be

[deep snow]

his dad bought the prebuilt for a realy stoopid price

[hallow solstice]

It’ll be 4K 60fps on next gen consoles so, assume anything in that range will handle it

[abstract fiber]

unreal 5 is supposedly a very optimized engine, like ridiculously well optimized

[potent bluff]

Im using rtx 3050 ti

[abstract fiber]

we'll see what the devs make of it though

[potent bluff]

it very bad

laptop gpu

[hallow solstice]

I’ve always noticed slightly higher cpu usage than other games

[vernal magnet]

after seeing the tech demos im hoping it overcomes the classic UE4 open world stutter because its asset streaming and nanite is amazing

[hallow solstice]

Idk why that is. Not sure if it’s offloading GPU memory or what

[abstract fiber]

same, UE4 was sometimes unplayable for me because of that stuttering

[twilit flower]

well we're already hardened against stutters, coming from X-Ray engine. probably won't feel like stalker if there isn't a microstutter every few seconds

[deep snow]

its has a 1030 gtx, 6 gb of ram and some random cpu that he baught all for over 2k

[hallow solstice]

Stalker 2 will have FSR and DLSS too

[finite dragon]

I’ve got a 3060 because of muh scalpers, every store is sold out of everything else lmfao but I think it’s equivalent to 2070 super I read?? So I’m fine with it not being ultra maxxed, I’m sure graphics will be good even on lower settings

[vernal magnet]

this do be the facts lmao

[deep snow]

his dad baught it becuase it was expensive and didnt look into any specs

usd

[finite dragon]

Plus I’m not a graphics fiend, I play morrowind all the time

[deep snow]

unfortunately

[abstract fiber]

sounds like an NFT investor

[deep snow]

no me my cousin

no he hates nfts

but his dad is dumb

[abstract fiber]

talking about his dad lol

[deep snow]

his dad bought a 10k guitar just so he could flex it

doesnt even know how to play

[abstract fiber]

40,000 dollar monkey picture, must be valuable

[potent bluff]

Its his money nothing is dumb

[deep snow]

honestly he prob would buy nfts

[hallow solstice]

People clown NFT owners but they don’t clown the resale value

[potent bluff]

this

[deep snow]

yea but it came with sop much bloat ware too

and my cousin is kinda not the smartest

[abstract fiber]

i dont understand the resale value

[finite dragon]

Damn boys not to derail, but I’m worried about multiplayer

[abstract fiber]

must be cartel money laundering, only explanation

[hallow solstice]

A lot of people showing their NFT earnings are bogus but some people do make thousands off NFTs

[deep snow]

i was kinda hoping for an open world like rdr2 online version

[twin dune]

Will there be coop

[deep snow]

but i feel that would get old fast

[abstract fiber]

no, they shot down co-op

[vernal magnet]

i need a real gameplay display like a fish needs water

[hallow solstice]

That, but it’s also like csgo skins where you have this artificial scarcity for a digital item, and hope it increases in value to get a pay out

[potent bluff]

multiplayer is always a part of stalkers... so I think nothing to worried about

[finite dragon]

Too bad they shot down coop, so what PVP then?

[twin dune]

Imagine anamoly co op

[tough portal]

lets just pray that they try to cover up the nft thing with actual gameplay soon

[vernal magnet]

queue the arnold handshake meme

[finite dragon]

Or maybe more mmo type deal

[potent bluff]

Merc vs Freedom

[frail kernel]

I couldn't sleep so I started a new Freedom Warfare to try and conquering everything south of Army Warehouses

[potent bluff]

but in stalker 2 Duty vs Freedom

[deep snow]

oka okay i have a real question

[finite dragon]

I’m gonna start anomaly tomorrow, any tips, recommendations, recommended mods etc

[deep snow]

why do ppl side with duty

[vernal magnet]

it sounds like it yea

[hallow solstice]

My freedom warfare was a great success. Took limansk, dead city, and rostok within the first couple real days

[finite dragon]

I’m not gonna lie, I got into stalker a bit late

[deep snow]

im personally more of an ecologist

but duty just never made sense tro me

[abstract fiber]

some people were dropped on their heads as children

[hallow solstice]

Was brutal but we overtook monolith pretty easily. Then save corrupted and that was that

[abstract fiber]

only feasible explanation, stalker

[potent bluff]

LTTZ DC, EFT weapon Reposition (updated version),....

[twilit flower]

not sure if the devs stating (story?) coop won't be a thing precludes an open world rpg-type multiplayer

[vernal magnet]

your just in time. time is a flat circle the monolith chose you

[deep snow]

bro im playing anomaly

bruh the abandoned hospital is so brutal

[finite dragon]

Thanks

[twin dune]

Deadly anomalies, dangerous mutants, anarchists and bandits.... None of them will stop Duty on its triumphant march towards saving the planet!

[hallow solstice]

They look the coolest

[deep snow]

i could disagree

[vernal magnet]

freedom gang rise up

[deep snow]

mercs look the coolest

[abstract fiber]

yeahhh they denied co-op only in the context of story mode, as it'd be too difficult to make it challenging in the context of a group setting while following the branching story

[potent bluff]

Free Stalkers are the best

[abstract fiber]

so maybe there will be something co-op-ish later down the line that's more like a sandbox

[potent bluff]

oh wait im merc

[vernal magnet]

true but we hang with the coolest of the zone kids lol

[potent bluff]

I forgor

[deep snow]

i am glad that stalker is becoming popular now

[twilit flower]

there would be big money, lot's of mtx potential in a open world stalker rpg

[hallow solstice]

Duty is the only faction I agree with. The zone is horrible and should probably be destroyed. Their methods however are… stupid

[twin dune]

Duty are the real defenders of the zone freedom are nothing more than a cult of liars

[finite dragon]

I’ve played CoP, clear sky, but been playing AREA like crazy lately, but downloading anomaly to try

[frail kernel]

I got caught up purging Duty, then tried to save Cordon from the Army. I got a soldier to surrender, then one of my companions approached me asking me to spare him, the other wanted to kill the prisoner. So when I spared the soldier, the one who wanted him dead killed the other companion and the soldier then offered me weed

[deep snow]

ah yes, shoot the zone more and make more ppl die than the zone itself has taken

[vernal magnet]

remind me who holds off the monolith from the north in army warehouses

[hallow solstice]

Nuke the zone so it goes away

[deep snow]

ah yes more radiation

[hallow solstice]

Freedom because they happen to be there

[potent bluff]

some ppl want the game to keep low profile (like me)

[deep snow]

and not to mention the radioactive dust cloud it would make

[twin dune]

It's duty that leads you into pripyatte and duty who helps you not some foolish freedom

[deep snow]

and what happens if the monolith is detroyed

will it grow

[twilit flower]

stay out of mah zone, heathens.

[deep snow]

ayo i just artifacts

canwe be friends

[finite dragon]

I can see the reasoning, but for whatever reason hardcore games are becoming more popular, I don’t think they have to worry about casualization

[vernal magnet]

now dont get me wrong, when i grab borovs key i always save the homies outside and the one dude trapped in the basement. i respect some duty doods. but yo, freedom got that crazy good herb

[deep snow]

when i play anomaly i allways start with loners

to get the more oficial stalker experience

use the detector

[hallow solstice]

play freedom anomaly >skinflint tells em to pick up coke delivery in the red forest day 1

[tough portal]

get detector wait for beep then pick up

[twin dune]

When you put it that way mhmmm

[deep snow]

do do anything tiol you get a bear detector tho

echos suck

[finite dragon]

Also I forget, is this game fully open world? Or zones?

[hallow solstice]

You should

[deep snow]

what gem

[abstract fiber]

for anomaly you gotta wait until there's been a blowout, and then basically you should only bother if you've got a bear detector or better

[deep snow]

cop or anomaly

[finite dragon]

I mean new one

[hallow solstice]

They said one of the biggest seamless open worlds to date

[deep snow]

okay

[abstract fiber]

64km square open world

[deep snow]

just go to anomaly feilds and just hold ur detector'

[vernal magnet]

i want to see dooty and freedumb to a christmas classic warfare move where they have peace for the day and play soccer and drink

[abstract fiber]

that's... two times the size of skyrim's map i think?

[hallow solstice]

No zones, no load times supposedly

[finite dragon]

Daaaaamn. I’m just hoping it’s not boringly empty

[twilit flower]

tier of artefacts you find correlates to the tier of detector you use, @finite dragon

[frail kernel]

I swear, when I play a Freedom run on Anomaly, the Freedom faction just randomly attacks their own teammates sometimes

[deep snow]

they have pretty good rang so if you dont see anything at forst ther prob isnt anything

also you will get alot of junk artifacts but the ones that arnt will give you radiation

[hallow solstice]

It gets boring man

[finite dragon]

Find me more tranalatora

[deep snow]

so you need to put it in either an aplicator to use it or to put it in a storage container

[finite dragon]

I can’t wait to try, what is it, azazel mode? In anomaly

[deep snow]

so you dont iradiate ur self or to use it

[hallow solstice]

I have a feeling it will be quite empty

[twilit flower]

@finite dragon artefacts spawn in most artefact fields, and they have a (not so great) chance to do so after blowouts and psy storms

[finite dragon]

Seems awesome

[hallow solstice]

Maybe not boring but I think NPCs will be sparse.

[cedar forum]

I wanna see the man of culture

[frail kernel]

It is a very cool concept in a game

[finite dragon]

I’m kinda nervous about it, I hate the open world for open world sake, it gets boring when it’s so empty

[versed condor]

Personally, I think that they're being brash in trying to destroy the zone. It's not even clear if it's possible to do such a thing given that physics literally have broken down, not sure how that can be reversed. It also appears that the anomalies and emissions are not unlike an immune response to incursions. I think if Duty pushed too hard it could make things worse.

[finite dragon]

Can’t wait to try it, such a cool concept

[sudden meadow]

shoot everything that moves

[deep snow]

honesly i agree with ecologist and freedom

ecos just want to help everyone

[twilit flower]

@finite dragon also, many artefact fields in anomaly are quickly looted by npc stalker. some will announce their findings over the pda, what you do with that information is between you and the holy monolith

[tough portal]

the ecologists are the only smart people in the zone

[deep snow]

sums it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1BAZ5zTL4

[hallow solstice]

Freedom being friends with bandits shows a lot about their character that’s all I gotta say

[versed condor]

"shoot everythign that moves". That's the policy of all factions. Self defense is one thing, but seeking out and picking a fight with something as unfathomable as the zone itself seems like tickling a sleeping dragon's tail.

[sudden meadow]

that's a good point

[finite dragon]

You guys think there’ll be any new major or minor factions, I haven’t looked too deep into stalker 2 tbh

[deep snow]

nah we just rather smoke than fight like yall

[tough portal]

there is a new confirmed faction called the Ward

[sudden meadow]

the ward

[deep snow]

yea i heard

[cedar forum]

Yes sir

[exotic hamlet]

I need

[deep snow]

somewhere inbetween freedom and duty in ideology

[cedar forum]

The police men of the zone

[hallow solstice]

Yeah but bandits are the SCOURGE of the zone

[scarlet oracle]

Do I need COP to play COC

[finite dragon]

Any where I can read the new info? Or is it all still hush hush

[deep snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVMhhOTReM0

[versed condor]

No.

[tough portal]

you need to own it to play

[hallow solstice]

Massive douche nozzles. Killing indiscriminately and robbing people

[exotic hamlet]

My guess is Ward is some kind of splinter faction from the military?

[sudden meadow]

and just shooting my companions anywhere i walk

[scarlet oracle]

does boomsticks work on it?

[exotic hamlet]

Or Duty

[hallow solstice]

Mercs no?

[hallow solstice]

Anomaly

[exotic hamlet]

Doesn't make sense. Mercs were never interested in policing the Zone.

[split turret]

YEEEEA

[versed condor]

Or the cut UN/Western black ops faction.

[deep snow]

tho lets be honest mercs get al lil too much hate

[hallow solstice]

I thought the wards were foreign though

[deep snow]

like they help ecos

and are just tryna make money

[hallow solstice]

When they’re paid to

[deep snow]

if anything we can use them to kill the bandits

[exotic hamlet]

The fact that Ward takes the role of being the Zone's policemen over the Military or Duty means they're somehow stricter

[hallow solstice]

If someone told mercs to open up on Sakharov they would

[deep snow]

they dont really kill unless they are paid to or need to

[versed condor]

Yeah, but some of them are well known to be freaky sadists.

[deep snow]

yea that too

[split turret]

Mercs work for some clandestine organisation

[exotic hamlet]

Or maybe it's surviving members of Clear Sky coming back in a more militarized fashion

[deep snow]

nah they just blackwater

[split turret]

They have an underlying motive to their presence in the zone, and cop hints that it's related to the remaining scientists from the C con project

[exotic hamlet]

RIP

[finite dragon]

What are some features everyone wants to see? I just want more muh immersion stuff and some more survival aspects

[split turret]

Didn't like dead air too much tbh

[shy ocean]

they are probably just a gathering of stalkers that decided to oppose bandit threat. Theres multiple smaller groups of stalkers who did that, it's just that Varta seems to be more organized

[versed condor]

That company's been bought and rebought so many times, I can't keep track of them any more.

[twilit flower]

@scarlet oracle yes and no, you either need to have (or had?) it installed or use a special comment when running the game

[exotic hamlet]

Yeah their uniforms look a lot like the Monolith's...

[deep snow]

at this point they are legit just merc im prety sure

[exotic hamlet]

Maybe more Monolith experienced what Strider's group did?

[deep snow]

real like tf2

[exotic hamlet]

Debrainwashed Monolith forming their own faction

[twilit flower]

@scarlet oracle I'd recommend playing Anomaly, it doesn't need any workaround and is CoC on steroids

[split turret]

They're renamed, passed down, given back etc etc

It's the same old

[versed condor]

Right.

[exotic hamlet]

Call of Pripyat's ending does state that Strider went on to form his own faction

[shy ocean]

you can see striking resemblance between vartas and clear sky outfits too

[versed condor]

Pretty sure CotZ doesn't need a previous CoP installation.

[exotic hamlet]

I always thought that Clear Sky was actually a "friendlier" version of the Monolith. Think about it. They're a tight-knit, secretive faction that radically works to prevent people from reaching the very center of the Zone, they want to collect all the information they can for themselves, and their leader is a scientist who worked on the C-Consciousness project

[twilit flower]

monolith still going strong in 2021, you just need to believe hard enough.

[exotic hamlet]

Their camouflage given the Zone's environment also sucks, lol

[twilit flower]

can I get a prayer to the monolith, everyone?! if we pray hard enough the crystal will return in Stalker 2

[versed condor]

Monolith actually worships the zone though.

[split turret]

Monolith will nearly definetly still exist at least as a small group of remnants

Would be quite shocking if they didn't

[exotic hamlet]

Like I said, "friendlier." They're not cultists, but their parallels bear striking similarities.

[split turret]

Probably late game human enemies again

[versed condor]

Hm. I don't really see it, but I think your point holds water regardless.

[exotic hamlet]

Clear Sky is at the edge of the Zone. Monolith is at the center. Both want to stop STALKERs from reaching the center. Both want to protect the Zone because they know it can't be destroyed and shouldn't be messed with. Both are very strict about letting people join.

[split turret]

Well, monolith members are indoctrinated into protecting the zone

It's not a conscious decision to protect it

[deep snow]

clear sky are just angry ecos

[finite dragon]

In the retail version some editions have patches, there’s monolith,duty, freedom and loner on display in the pic so not sure if that’s indicative of involved groups

[exotic hamlet]

And Clear Sky aren't? You mean to tell me they convinced an army's worth of random STALKERs to travel all the way to the center of the Zone for no reason other than to stop one guy?

[versed condor]

Fair point. I guess the religious aspect distances them much more in my eyes.

[twilit flower]

lots of clear sky may be monolith nowadays

[exotic hamlet]

Clear Sky is up to something shady, I feel it. Their members are oddly loyal for a faction that's supposed to be a bunch of scientists holding it together with twine.

[split turret]

CS is kinda poorly written, because the titular faction inexplicably goes from being bullied by a bandit offshoot to having a small military in the time it takes you to track strelok down

[versed condor]

Hm. I didn't think of it from that angle before.

[twilit flower]

clear sky lost most of their forces to the blowout at the cnpp

[split turret]

Among some other uh, issues

The faction wars were a fun idea I guess

[versed condor]

I think CS would make more sense if they were very small but highly skilled.

[split turret]

Not amazingly implemented, but fun

[exotic hamlet]

Whether or not it's poorly written is besides my point. I'm going off of what happened. What happened is that a faction without resources to spare recruited an entire army to travel to the center of the Zone, and most of that army "became" Monolith later on

[split turret]

And there's no indication of them indoctrinating stalkers off screen

[versed condor]

When you put it like that, it does make more sense.

[exotic hamlet]

STALKER Conspiracy Theories: All members of Clear Sky were Monolith all along.

[split turret]

It's implied to be a mix of bribery and coercion I guess, kinda like they do with scar

But that still doesn't really make sense

[exotic hamlet]

Scar was convinced mainly by the scientist guy saying that if he can help stop the emissions, he might be able to develop something to heal his nerve damage

[twilit flower]

clear sky leadership was extremely misguided, their troops misled by leaders who draw the wrong conclusions from incomplete information about the nature of the zone. they were, in that light, more of a cult than the monolith, which serves the truth of the zone

[split turret]

Well, the leadership was half trying to prevent people from playing with the zone and half covering for its' involvement with the C con project

It wasn't really s cult of the zone

[twilit flower]

the monolith is nothing more than a tool serving the truth of the zone

[split turret]

They knew it was a threat and that was about it

If anything they're an amalgamation of duty and ecologists tbh

[twilit flower]

do you think clear sky leadership knew about c-con? I don't believe so. they were thrown out, or left the project before it went to the c-con path with all the noosphere hijinx that led to

[split turret]

With a mix of analyzing artifacts and experimenting on them(resulting in the prototype gauss rifle) and having a very careful, conservative approach to the zone

[versed condor]

Lebedev was a former member of the "scientists" who were responsible for it.

[twilit flower]

yeah but he left before the c-con project

[split turret]

Before it had any real success

[versed condor]

I'm not an expert on the timeline, so I'll take your word for it.

[twilit flower]

he's right in sensing the zone has some "will", some brain behind it. we know it was c-con

and c-con could get angry, and cause backlash to intruders

[split turret]

But noosphere manipulation was the underlying goal of their research from the start

That's why kaymanov emitters were created

[twilit flower]

but c-con is not the zone itself. c-con had influence over the zone, it could control it to an extent

[split turret]

Well, the zone was created when they messed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R's very literal version of the noosphere concept

[versed condor]

And, managed to ruin it for everyone since the Zone is expanding now and there's no known way to stop it.

[twilit flower]

trying to appease to the zone was the wrong way. if they had really knowingly appeased to the c-con, they'd just have outright joined the monolith ranks and would not have followed the wrong path of stopping strelok and exposing themselves in a big battle right next to c-cons chambers

[split turret]

That was kinda on strelok tbf, if anyone had a shot at stopping it was the C-con hivemind

[twilit flower]

if lebedev was privy to that information there would have been no need to go on a wild goose chase and waste so many fighters on both clear sky and monolith side

[split turret]

Now the zone will probably keep expanding unless something similar is attempted

Lebedev mostly wanted you to stop strelok

He was afraid that people getting to the center would mess things up even more

I mean, ironically enough he was ultimately proven correct in SHOC

[twilit flower]

yes, but there isn't a point in stopping strelok if you know the only entity that can be reasoned with is not some personification of the zone but in reality just the c-con which can, withing limits, control the zone

[versed condor]

I wonder if the Warp exists in the STALKER universe.

And the Chaos gods are laughing their heads off at the endless strife between factions.

[split turret]

The noosphere is the closest thing to the wh warp

The two concepts aren't really compatible

[versed condor]

I wasn't being totally serious. Just a random thought that popped into my mind.

[split turret]

Aight

[twilit flower]

with clear sky's goals, they should have just joined as either as a c-con auxiliary force or just become monolith, providing cs leadership knew the truth about the zone. they didn't, misinterpreted the ongoings inside the zone as the zone being some kind of entity itself, and sacrificed everything to gain nothing

[pale briar]

GM all!,,greetings from Italy

[versed condor]

Greetings.

[rocky zodiac]

I liked Clear Sky a lot, but it's the only one I never finished. The ending fight was wild and I ran out of ammo at some point

[twilit flower]

tbh I really love this aspect of the clear sky story. you may start the game eye-rolling about all the personification of the zone, but then you grow to believe cs leadership really does know their stuff. highly decorated zone-related scientists in the leadership afterall

[plucky hamlet]

Joined here because i've seen a post about NFT cancelling in Reddit. I thought that server is not exist for some reason .-.
Glad to see you all

[twilit flower]

and in the end it was all just a dumb belief, yet they came close to seeing aspects of the truth

[twilit flower]

the ending fight destroyed my opinion of the game, personally. it was so stupid. strelok bulletsponge was too much

[rocky zodiac]

Yeah it was insane, I wasn't sure if my game bugged or what. I remember having trouble with SOC's ending too but that CS was next level

[twilit flower]

yup I asked myself the same thing

[versed condor]

CoP is the only game I've beaten.

[rocky zodiac]

I think overall Call of Pripyat is my favorite, but I really liked the vibes of Clear Sky

[versed condor]

I got pretty close with SoC but ran out of medkits and antirads in the basement of the NPP.

[twilit flower]

easy to get to the SoC ending as long as you only make a secret wish

[plucky hamlet]

*running through the zone in 20 minutes*

[plucky hamlet]

Damn somewhat it's hilarious to blow up this scientist in the bunker to get psy-defense

[twilit flower]

heh, I think I kind of tried that the first time I played SoC, but the brain scorcher crossed my plan

[rocky zodiac]

SoC was really fun, I loved the arena fights. At least I think that was in SoC

[twilit flower]

it was, in rostok next to the bar

[rocky zodiac]

Oops didn't mean to reply to that

[split turret]

Ye, shoc is fun

Honestly I'd say it has the best atmosphere among the 3 games

[rocky zodiac]

Yeah it was also near the get out of here stalker building, hope that king makes it into stalker 2

[twilit flower]

yeah

[plucky hamlet]

You better blow up the scientist in the Yantar location, you can drop grenades really close to the place where he is staying and he will get damage. It will not save you that much from the brain death, but you will have much more chances

[split turret]

CoP refined the gameplay a fair bit, but sacrificed some of that feel

[plucky hamlet]

Damn all those games have different vibes for me, i can't believe all that stuff is happening in one universe

[twilit flower]

CoP felt fresh, not a substitute for SoC but a good addition

[split turret]

Ye, CoP was still good

I def like CoP and SHoC more than CS, but I can't easily pick a favourite between SHoC and CoP

[versed condor]

Just in terms of gameplay refinements I enjoyed it the most.

[twilit flower]

SoC felt the most grandiose in terms of story and what happens in the world

cs too, but as it's a prequel..

[versed condor]

It did feel like the longest, but CoP felt like it had more nooks and crannies to get into without being prompted.

[rocky zodiac]

I think Clear Sky had the best hobo phase

[twilit flower]

CoP had that real aspect, just a nobody in the zone doing small stuff, which is great stuff too

[versed condor]

I think that's what I liked the most, you're a protagonist but not a chosen one.

[sullen fable]

cop had.best side quests

[twilit flower]

yeah exactly

[scarlet oracle]

Are there any good shaders for SOC

[plucky hamlet]

*DOOM soundtrack kicks in*

[versed condor]

Like, CoP is as much about your Military bros as it is about you.

[edgy isle]

best base for best faction

[rocky zodiac]

Yeah the Clear Sky base was super comfy

[versed condor]

It is comfy.

Very homely, like the Skadovsk but not a rusted ship that's likely to become structurally unsound at some point.

[rocky zodiac]

I also like the emissions, I don't remember if they were in the first game, but I'm glad they were brought into CoP

[scarlet oracle]

any good shaders for SOC?

[versed condor]

They weren't in SoC by default.

[rocky zodiac]

I was always surprised that they worked as good as they did

[plucky hamlet]

In the ending you will get one, which is scripted sadly

[versed condor]

I didn't really like how the "color" waves penetrate walls though.

So I hope that changes in S2.

[cerulean wyvern]

I would just like to say that I absolutely adore GSC Game Word

[wicked sleet]

they were supposed to be there from the first game, like most things released later

[edgy isle]

in SoC there was scripted emission on powerplant outskirts level, right?

[versed condor]

Yes.

[plucky hamlet]

Y-yep

[cerulean wyvern]

the internet WILL PREVAIL

[hearty finch]

where FNJ-2000 in CoP

[versed condor]

You get a timer and have to scurry into the plant before everything goes even further down the drain.

[rocky zodiac]

It's been a few years since I played all the way through them

[rocky zodiac]

Oh yeah I remember that now

My game also crashed a lot around that part of the game

[plucky hamlet]

I don't get why do i feel that stage so weirdly... like i supposed to run in the place where i should not run either

[wicked sleet]

@hearty finch Mercenaries in Pripyat often carry those

[versed condor]

All while being chased down by Monolithians and Military Stalkers that want to murder you.

[rocky zodiac]

I dont do a ton of modding for stalker, but I think I've seen some.

[deep snow]

yo i forgot to tell everyon

my classes are officially over for the year

[versed condor]

You know what would be interesting? Documents you could find detailing all the other nuclear accidents in the world, like the Windscale incident, Three Mile Island, SL-1, etc... I see no reason why The Group wouldn't be investigating all of that.

[deep snow]

and i get new classes on the 8th

[wicked sleet]

@hearty finch you can also buy it at Yanov if you're friend of Freedom

[hearty finch]

very nice, Thank you

[plucky hamlet]

I see you for first time as well as this server but... yay?

[rocky zodiac]

https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker/mods

This is where I normally got mods for it

[hearty finch]

Not nice very too late

but still thank you

[wicked sleet]

@hearty finch there's also a chance Nimble will sell you one if you order an assault rifle, tho it's kinda random

[deep snow]

i never liked nimble

he allways overcharged

[versed condor]

Nimble is like everybody's bro though.

[deep snow]

yea

[hearty finch]

well i got a RPK-74 from the Cement factory in Yanov at the top tower, from a zombified exoskeleton duty member

[wicked sleet]

@deep snow well that's the price for endgame gear early in the game i guess

[deep snow]

fair

but usually by the time i could offord his stuff i had access to i for cheaper

[plucky hamlet]

It sounds like a rare weapon i've not seen in this game at all

[versed condor]

I usually go to him for the Clear Sky suit.

[versed condor]

It's the light machine gun.

[plucky hamlet]

I bet it's because he want's to sell more stuff for more stalkers

[deep snow]

its pretty fun

[wicked sleet]

@versed condor yeah me too, if you wear it the first time you visit Novikov, he will comment lol

[hearty finch]

well, i may have just lucked out

[plucky hamlet]

I mean yes but i've not seen it in original game

[versed condor]

Sure does.

[deep snow]

tho if you want good guns in stalker just farm monolith

[versed condor]

No, it's in there I'm quite sure.

[deep snow]

thats how i got an oden in anomaly

[twilit flower]

I find that, like many other aspects, to be such a great thing about the stalker story. it lures ppl in with the nuclear accident, the exclusion zone, radiation. when you watch a streamer play stalker blind, they'll naively assume all the supernatural stuff happens (somehow) because of radiation. lmao!!

[plucky hamlet]

Probably i should search for it

[twilit flower]

they will find a springboard, a gravi... huh it must be radiation

[plucky hamlet]

If you want good guns ...
KILL KILL KILL

[deep snow]

yea

ive been maining an fn2000 i got off of one in lamansk

[versed condor]

I don't watch streamers, but that sounds like it would be difficult to listen to without screaming.

[wicked sleet]

You can get Vintorez the second you spawn in the game, those gun locations make vanilla so easy

[long harbor]

it's the MG that the military use

literally the PKM irl

[versed condor]

Vintorez is tricky to get ammo for though. It's why I don't use it early on.

[deep snow]

imo the svd is better

especially if you get it upgraded

[versed condor]

Anyway, good talking with you all.

[deep snow]

you too

[versed condor]

I'll be around later though, need to go wrap gifts.

[plucky hamlet]

That's good the house is durable enough to have Vintorez on it heheh

[plucky hamlet]

Alright then thx

[plucky hamlet]

Yep ._.

[deep snow]

yo so isnt the economy crashing and things are getting more expensive?

in the us i mean

[rocky zodiac]

I typically use the pump action shotgun early on

[deep snow]

becuase this year there are more presents under the tree than ever before

[plucky hamlet]

I can't notice it since i'm constantly poor. Probably it's the reason why is everything kind of stable for me

[long harbor]

i mean it's like that around the world

[wicked sleet]

any of you ever tried iron man challenge in CoP ?

[long harbor]

not getting any money but stuff are getting more expensive

[plucky hamlet]

What's that?

[hearty finch]

There is a eliminator shotgun in Pripyat at the Huge gauss railing thing

[deep snow]

what do yall think of warfare mode in anomaly

[wicked sleet]

@plucky hamlet finish the game in bandit's jacket and makarov, no other gear allowed

[long harbor]

bro ironman in games like the last of us or doom? yes. but in stalker? nah

[deep snow]

i kinda want to do it in my next playthru

[twilit flower]

use the warfare+story mode combined

[plucky hamlet]

Somewhat i read it like "double action" for first time. Where do you get pump one? I mean, how long it takes

[rocky zodiac]

Yeah I think I liked the Spas more than that one.

[plucky hamlet]

Lmao sounds awesome to do

[deep snow]

is the gauss rifle in anomaly?

and if so where can i find it

[twilit flower]

unless you want pure warfare, which is ok too. but I wouldn't play story without warfare integrated anymore

[rocky zodiac]

Not too long, I usually end up trading a lot of guns for it asap

[hearty finch]

but the eliminator makes a joke out of the BloodSuckers in Pripyat, and when you have the automatic fire mode modified man oh man does it sweep

except for the long reload

[plucky hamlet]

About which part are we talking about now? In CoP it's kind of hard to find a lot of sellable weapons or probably i'm not lucky enough

[rocky zodiac]

Yeah its a good gun, I think I was just used to the Spas by then and didn't want to let it go

[deep snow]

im starting a new anomaly play thru

[hearty finch]

Fair. Gets the best of us sometimes

[deep snow]

im playing monolith on warfare mode

[twilit flower]

yeah gauss rifle is in Anomaly, as is the unique version (item n°62 iirc?) but it's rare

maybe you can buy it from monolith with high reputation

[rocky zodiac]

It's been a while since I played but I want to say in CoP it pops up pretty early

Like a couple hours in I'd say

[hearty finch]

So X-8 Lab is early game ?

[plucky hamlet]

Ah damn i just thought it's like faster than hour or sort of that. But still haven't tried shotgun gameplay in the beginning, and i have no clue why really

[wicked sleet]

pump shotgun can be bought from Owl, though many Loners and Bandits carry it

[plucky hamlet]

Damn it also sounds like a thing i should to try .-.
I mean, always i've used my AK and tons of grenades

[hearty finch]

I will say youll have to have good tracking with bloodsuckers, as they run in circles

[rocky zodiac]

The pump action shotgun pops up pretty early for me.

[plucky hamlet]

*randomly throwing grenades*
What?

[wicked sleet]

if there's one circling around you, just run like 20 meters and aim 100% in front of you, guaranteed he will run right into your sight

[twilit flower]

seeing the saiga 12 in the Stalker 2 trailer warms my heart

can't wait to rip the bloodsuckers a new one with that

[winged dust]

Ahoy and such.

[hearty finch]

But, I am disappointed that emptying 100 7.62x54 (PKM Rounds) into a Psuedogiant did almost nothing

[rocky zodiac]

Nah I usually don't have it in the first hour, but I always like having a shotgun with me in the zone. I love the sawn off for hobo phase

[hearty finch]

Ah, alright, thanks

[plucky hamlet]

That feel when this entity is not dangerous, it's just too healthy to be killed so you are just running from it

[plucky hamlet]

#sawnoffgang

[hearty finch]

[finite dragon]

What the hell is nft integration

[hearty finch]

wait @plucky hamlet are you early ingame in CoP ?

[wicked sleet]

@finite dragon you don't have to worry anymore, better you don't research it lol

[plucky hamlet]

I can start it now if you want :p
I've not played it for a while so why not to replay it again