⭐┃nospoilers_general

[feral narwhal]

It’s just gonna be a nft whale that spends a few hundred grand then trade it for more money then switches hands again

[steel lily]

Thats not being pessimestic. Thats wisdom. It comes with age

[feral narwhal]

This wasn’t for the normal fans too begin with

[oblique jay]

no

just for cash

[round pasture]

No, it is just pessimism

[compact girder]

@round pasture nah realism

[vestal basalt]

I see. That definitely wouldve been better than making it a crypto thing since it would be bought by people who are actually passionate about the game (probably content creators or something) instead of being bought by some guy that just sees it as an investment and doesnt care about stalker at all. I still feel like they shouldve made it a contest like best 3 fan artists get to be in the game but an auction with regular money would definitely be better than NFTs

[abstract fiber]

everyone has decided that the game is going to be hot garbage on an august afternoon because NFT

[compact girder]

@round pasture this stuff is like reading between the lines

[abstract fiber]

i mean from a purely pragmatic POV, the game shouldn't be impacted at all, it just puts their priorities into question

which is scary

[steel lily]

Couldnt said it much better

[round pasture]

Youre reading a bit too much between the lines

[tough portal]

that, and the lack of any information outside of screenshots and an awful on rails trailer

[oblique jay]

yeah

[round pasture]

Again, it's not like SoC didn't release buggy and unfinished

[abstract fiber]

that's not even the issue at hand though

[round pasture]

And they were working with THQ

[stark widget]

Must admit, the closer to release we get without seeing actual gameplay, BUT are seeing the way things are pointing I feel less confident in my first ever Pre Order…

[oblique jay]

i never preorder games EVER

[compact girder]

i aint ever

[remote bone]

why are they spending money on nft instead of the actual game ;-;

[steel lily]

Ok my zone brothers, its time to take my leave. Time to cook and get ready for work. Take care people. Have a nice day / night.

[oblique jay]

bye

[stark widget]

The next 4 months I’ll have to see if I will decide to cancel it. Lifelong fan too- my favourite game by far…

[round pasture]

Удачи, m'lord

[compact girder]

you get the preorder crap next year anyways for £0.59

[hard stirrup]

i dont mind pre order one way or the other and plus i want the extras. Its the least i can do to show support for a company that gave us the original trilogy

[compact girder]

its always the same

[abstract fiber]

selling their NFT gun skins for $300,000 so Grygorovych can buy the company a T-55 for trials and weapon tests so they can authentically put it into the game, we never should've doubted them!

[hard stirrup]

not to mention the hours played from mods with those original games

[slate pendant]

imagine preordering at all

[oblique jay]

now, i also have other worries in ukraine that might affect the game but i don't know if i can talk about it here since it is rather....................political in nature.

[vague drum]

Of course, but the main issue with NFTs is that compounded with the crazy preorders and the "campfire dlc" before we got to even see any real gameplay that isn't just 3 seconds of likely scripted content it sets a pretty bad precedent

[hard stirrup]

im aware of the risk with pre ordering but i dont care i love the franchise

[compact girder]

if i buy stalker 2 i now do so in the knowledge ive bought stalker 2 and an unknown chunk of time in that development period where they tried to print money instead with the man hours. this bothers me

[vague drum]

And their blatant lie of citing "community requests" or whatever when I haven't heard a single stalker fan even mention an NFT prior tells me that they'll lie again

[stark widget]

Im off..!!! Take it easy guys and lets hope this resolves well for everyone…

[oblique jay]

maybe by 'community' they mean non stalkers

[round pasture]

What kind of logic is that?

[compact girder]

so when you find a tonne of bugs, we'll wonder if those hours could have been spent better elsewhere

[vague drum]

that would be even worse

[hard stirrup]

like what are people true complaints with NFT's? i dont get it

[compact girder]

but after they have your cash ofc

[vague drum]

Environmental concerns and scams

[oblique jay]

yes

[hard stirrup]

i kind of get the environmental thing but explain the scams

[vague drum]

That and also because it's just another massive bubble for exorbitantly rich people

[oblique jay]

also artificial scarcity

[abstract fiber]

it costs $400,000 to track the blockchain of this NFT... for twelve seconds

[compact girder]

its invasive to be honest

[slate forum]

Environmental part is something I became apathetic towards

[vague drum]

A hell of a lot of NFTs were manufactured scams, the anonymous creators running away with it afterwards

[oblique jay]

from what i know it is like a ponzi scheme/buble where it is worth a lot but without any real value

[compact girder]

but we're slowly getting used to it last 10 yeaes

[vague drum]

it is most definitely a ponzi scheme

[oblique jay]

TRUE

[vestal basalt]

theyre hopping on the NFT skins trend which is also something Ubisoft and EA (some of the worst gaming companies) heavily encourage because of it being a cash grab, and on top of GSC doing this cash grab, theyre doing it when they havent even released gameplay footage yet, and the game is 4 months from release

[remote bone]

they are greedy by spending money on useless things. They are spending money for you to spend money, instead of them working and polishing the game

[vague drum]

artificial scarcity has never led to anywhere good

[abstract fiber]

NFTs feel like corporate wet dreams and anything that's a corporate wet dream is automatically a bad thing, no need to think so hard about it

[oblique jay]

Where are they taking stalker man............damn.

[compact girder]

@remote bone its also time spent farting around with scanners and putting rich guys in the game instead of fixing the bugs the game will ship with

[vague drum]

It pisses me off knowing that this is within a year of the passing of Sergei Ivanov

[hard stirrup]

you guys are aware you are not forced to buy anything right?

[vestal basalt]

yes we know that, thats not our point

[vague drum]

it's not that we're being forced mate

[oblique jay]

That's the power cost right?

[hard stirrup]

if rich people want to buy skins within themselves from each other what is it to the average gamer?

[vague drum]

tf2 reference

[abstract fiber]

tf2 ref yeah lol

[oblique jay]

oh yeah

[remote bone]

ig im buying the stalker 2 free edition

[vestal basalt]

same lol

[oblique jay]

but i imagine tracking block chain cost A LOT of power just look at Kazakhstan they have an energy crisis because of crypto farms

[slate forum]

Honestly not my main concern

[hard stirrup]

i get it but cmon dude.... thats a stretch for something not worth complaining about

[compact girder]

@hard stirrup because i buy games to enjoy, not to enjoy but also "try and catch some whales if thats cool"

[vague drum]

Its more so the fact that they're essentially selling off a franchise that has probably the tightest and most loving community I have ever seen to the highest bidder

[oblique jay]

Whats next? stalker coin?

[compact girder]

its time spent on pointless additions adding no value that could be used on the game itself

[hard stirrup]

whatever funding GSC gets from these rich people who want to buy skins is investments for future stalker games

[abstract fiber]

for me it's not the practice itself that is an issue for the game, but the implication that — here we are, four months and two weeks from release, and suddenly they're pulling this nonsense that benefits nobody but the company's leadership. don't they have bigger things to worry about so close to release? the game will probably be ok regardless and im going to buy it. i just think it's kinda sketchy

[remote bone]

honestly i would love stalker 2 if they did something like a community event for a costum mod instead of nfts

[compact girder]

see they say to me one of 3 things - To me that leaves possible reasons - 1. They're ignorant of what their fans want 2. They don't care 3. They don't get to decide

all 3 are bad outcomes

[vestal basalt]

Yup. The stalker community is one of the most loyal communities in gaming ive ever seen. Stalker fans have stuck with GSC for years waiting for a new game, and after all that GSC says fugg you and sells out to the crypto whales. Hopefully the game will at least be good, but i doubt it.

[slate forum]

Evriomemtal part is something I became apathetic towards, the thing that is that I am concerned is how many people fall for them

[vague drum]

Stalker fans have a lot in common with half life fans

[oblique jay]

maybe stalker mod of the year award

[vague drum]

the amount of dedication and adoration for their respective franchises is incredible

[hard stirrup]

Not to mention this game is highly moddable

[oblique jay]

like doom community have that i think

[hard stirrup]

NFT's mean absolutely nothing to me

[abstract fiber]

well, they've said it's highly moddable

like months and months ago, and we haven't heard about it again

so we'll see on release, i guess

[long mantle]

Is it bad if I mdo this game with suggestive adult stuff ?

[vague drum]

Totally not

[oblique jay]

no

[abstract fiber]

be sure to share, stalker

[compact girder]

nft obviously aint for their fanbase, so theres a big disconnect there

[oblique jay]

do what ever you want

[vestal basalt]

yeah fans literally created a basically whole new stalker game (anomaly) and didnt even charge a penny

[slate forum]

To me not really mainly because of countries like China and India pollution

[long mantle]

Thanks guys

[oblique jay]

wait until ray of hope comes out

[abstract fiber]

fair and based point that nobody ever makes

[hard stirrup]

imagine what modders will do for stalker 2 regardless of some dumb NFT's

[vague drum]

Well China's pollution is going to peak in 2035 from what I know

[hard stirrup]

i think this whole NFT thing is blown out of proportion

[autumn timber]

Blame the devs for that

[compact girder]

@hard stirrup depends. if money interferes with mods then may not be so easy to just take to bits and fiddle

[abstract fiber]

i sincerely hope you're right and that NFTs will be a thing of the past within 6 months, i've had my fill already and i first heard about them this week

[vague drum]

If GSC has turned into Ukrainian Bethesda I'm done for

[oblique jay]

oh yeah, i just hope private server is a thing for coop and not an mmo

[hard stirrup]

i can tell you 100% free mods will overrun any paid mod if that ever becomes a thing

[autumn timber]

Paid mod wont happen

[hard stirrup]

no ones buying mods

[compact girder]

@vague drum happens to em all it seems. like the apple thing. the designers are slowly replaced by moneymen and the magic goes

[rugged river]

mods become nfts

[abstract fiber]

NFT mods 😳

[rugged river]

it happened to fallout

[abstract fiber]

and skyrim

[rugged river]

^

[slate forum]

The reason why I brought it up, because if someone told a person NFTs environmental problems it would likely be: “How is it any worst then Chinese and Indian Pollution.”

[autumn timber]

And it failed royally. I dont think STALKER devs have the money to try stuff like that

[oblique jay]

NFT mods

[compact girder]

now we have skyrim ever year

[oblique jay]

payed stalker mods would be downvoted to the bowells of the earth

[rugged river]

which is why they're doing this nft stuff

[abstract fiber]

300 iq devs using NFT quick cash money scheme to get the funding to finish 8K sidorovich motion capture graphics

[compact girder]

what worries me is if theres paid mods then youve already cut your community in half berore anything else

[vague drum]

Is there a reason why there's no mention of this nft crap in announcements and twitter?

[abstract fiber]

cause they know it's a bad look

[vague drum]

the channels

[oblique jay]

hiding from us it seemed

[tough portal]

i know you guys said you don't really care about the NFT thing but the auction is going to the highest bidder now imagine someone like jeff bezos buying it and being put into the game, it's completely possible

[fleet wave]

Lmao

[abstract fiber]

i hope it's a hot babe

[oblique jay]

*Loads SVD

[vestal flower]

I hope we can kill those NPCs

[abstract fiber]

nah they're given skyrim-style "important npc" immunity guaranteed

[oblique jay]

We are going hunting stalkers

[vague drum]

Interestingly the executives in GSC have undisclosed investments in blockchain assets

[slate forum]

More then likely they will be

[hard stirrup]

i just dont get the downside of this.. if the devs need extra funds for developing the game and rich people want to invest in some character in game or whatever skins come along let them? it literally has no adverse effect on the game itself

[abstract fiber]

first mod to hit the shelves will be "kill NFT npcs"

[vague drum]

and they're talking about how NFTs will "incentivise" modders

they're being purposefully vague

[oblique jay]

S U S

[slate forum]

My guess is how popular NFTs in general regardless

[rugged river]

which is why there was a "killable kids" mod lol

[fleet wave]

NFTs harm the enviroment and GPU supply. Plus there is no need to use them here

[abstract fiber]

i dont know how to say this any simpler, but the issue isn't so much NFTs being in the game as "if they're working on NFTs, are they working on the game? fixing bugs? polishing gameplay? or just spending weeks messing around with funding schemes?"

[bitter rose]

Yeah honestly I don't really care about the NFTs thing, it's the thought of having a random cryptobro's face in the game that annoys me.

[oblique jay]

THOSE damn crypto bros taking ALL of the gamers GPU!

[abstract fiber]

it broke trust because it's weird and abnormal and very unnecessary

it's probably not a big issue but only time will tell

[slate forum]

Yeah, I would wait until the game comes out and see how it is

[livid finch]

I have very big concerns about moding since they will add NFT, what if someone changes appearance of that person who paid, or mods will remove that person completely..

[ashen axle]

RozzaWasHere#6675 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[oblique jay]

i wonder if those GSC people are seeing all this

[abstract fiber]

probably nothing they could do about it, similar to people screenshotting nfts lol

hence the memes

[rugged river]

i want to preorder the retail version just for the stuff it comes with, but im hesitant because idk how the game will be on release

[vestal basalt]

Im sure theres a GSC employee reading this now, theyre probably not gonna say anything about it though

[fleet wave]

Oh they are, sincerly hope this wont become another AIDungeon mess

[hard stirrup]

i imagine with them promoting this NFT thing the game is basically done and polishing is happening now

[abstract fiber]

we're all being put on a list right now

they will make us fight in the arena

[fleet wave]

Winner gets to be an NPC

[abstract fiber]

LMAO

[finite dragon]

Good

[elder bridge]

Release dates are never a guarantee now a days

[hard stirrup]

true

[slate forum]

How about never preorder a game in general

[finite dragon]

Cyber punk was my epiphany

[vestal basalt]

theyre pulling our IPs and theyre gonna kidnap us and force us to 1v3 the owners of the NFTs IRL

[tough portal]

you'd think game play would be released instead of this

[abstract fiber]

[compact girder]

Yeah what's done is already done

[rugged river]

but then you cant kill them because they're important characters

[finite dragon]

I'd like to see a dev get in the chat right now and say they've cancelled all plans

[elder bridge]

10 years from now we’ll have something like stalker anomaly on UE5 and I cannot wait

[hard stirrup]

i think once gameplay is released next year all those canceled pre orders will be pre ordered again

[fleet wave]

Honestly id like to see any response

[oblique jay]

gave us full non scripted working gameplay

[vestal basalt]

in 3 months itll be next year

[abstract fiber]

a little over 4 months but basically yeah

[hard stirrup]

its 4 months

[vestal flower]

Wait guys, Russia hasn't woken up yet.

[elder bridge]

Got my hopes up lol

[hard stirrup]

4 months is still a long time away

idk im just not buying into all this NFT stuff because i dont care

they said themselves nothing will be effected with the game

[fleet wave]

I mean the game will probably be still good, but im baffeled by the decision

[hard stirrup]

they need funding dude

its obvious

[fleet wave]

But why NFT? There is literally zero need to use blockchain

[abstract fiber]

trendy, that's all

[vestal flower]

Not funding, profit.

[oblique jay]

do you think they will release skins as NFT too? like ubisoft?

[hard stirrup]

whatever the case it only gives us a better chance stalker 3 will be even better

[tough portal]

i hate how you said next year like the release date is far away, it's not. something so vital to a games release is being withheld it seems like

[abstract fiber]

i dont want stalker 3 to be good, i want stalker 2 to be good

[oblique jay]

TRUE

[vague drum]

Shouldn't we ask GSC here?

[hard stirrup]

the point is the game wont die

[strong rivet]

Wtf why is there stalker 2 NFTs

[abstract fiber]

you can make all the money in the world, if the game sux it's dead when nobody's playing it

[oblique jay]

WE DON"T KNOW

[fleet wave]

The metaverse

[oblique jay]

all we can do now is MEME about this NFT

[abstract fiber]

not that it'll be bad — i think it'll be great! — just that that's not a good line of thinking. devs' personal profit doesn't equal success

[ashen axle]

Preda#7625 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vague drum]

I mean if we pinged them and ask for an explanation of what the hell they think they are doing to our beloved STALKER, we might not be kicked for that, it is a good reason to be concerned

[oblique jay]

Why are people so hype about the metaverse, it is like second life it's not new.

[hard stirrup]

right. GSC is basically giving stalker 2 to the modding community and will be maintained like they did for the previous games look what came out of the old titles

[compact girder]

It bothers me that when I pay for Stalker 2 I'll do so knowing part of that cost has went into developing a jarring, irrelevant money printer instead of the post release bugs pre release, done in a vague enough way to get everyone chatting about it to generate hype but not enough to make everyone have a stroke and scare them away. This day and age and what we get sold, I'm sorry, but the benefit of the doubt is gone, and NFTs are just mucking about

[strong rivet]

I agree entirely

[vestal flower]

Someone in the office thought, we're gonna lose less than we're gonna gain by introducing this, worth a risk.

[strong rivet]

NFTs are useless garbage

[compact girder]

Its a total muck around

[spare silo]

https://tenor.com/view/nft-nfts-burning-money-timmy-turner-yeah-i-invest-in-nfts-gif-23478383

Stalker 2 devs

[oblique jay]

we criticize them here and still no kick which is very nice of them

[strong rivet]

You are good at wording things @compact girder

[compact girder]

Exactly. It's a tradeoff. This is where money comes in. Can we milk x loyalty into x money?

[abstract fiber]

LMAO nice

[twilit flower]

the way I understand it, nft won't be integrated in the game, but is just some sort of misguided marketing scheme right now. like a crowdfund/item selling just with the newest buzzwords (notice the METAVERSE oooh)

[strong rivet]

They had to do absolutely nothing to keep people hyped for the game

Other than a proper gameplay video

And instead released an NFT set

[oblique jay]

Based and Zonepilled

[abstract fiber]

wait isnt that ripping off bill jobs gates bezos lizard-robot-man's new facebook vr game thing?

[hard stirrup]

yea they said there wont be any in game market

from what i understand at least

[abstract fiber]

are we doing a stalker knock-off of facebook vr?

[vestal flower]

They don't care if you and me aren't gonna preorder, because it's just a spit in the ocean, but NFT is more like a sizeable pond.

[twilit flower]

yes, but they could have just sold the npc skin opportunity via the old way, but to create buzz they use METAVERSE stuff

[strong rivet]

They just want something that mentions NFTs so they can appeal to the NFT idiots

[twilit flower]

it worked, everybody is talking about it

[fleet wave]

Nft is like a long icicle, not wide but very tall

[compact girder]

If they needed to market it they'd make it for a wider audience, not this stupid stuff. This is something totally different entirely

[strong rivet]

And all the NFT marketing hype

[compact girder]

This is not hype, its nothing. its just money printing

[twilit flower]

exactly!!

[oblique jay]

Wait, so GSC use the word metaverse and metahuman without working with 'meta' the company?

[strong rivet]

NFTs have zero advantages and had zero demand from the community

[tough portal]

there are plans to release a couple more NFTs and the possibility of them being integrated with mods is not unlikely. it could turn into the creation club all over again

[spare silo]

https://tenor.com/view/plants-vs-zombies-gif-23655396

[vague drum]

tell you what this is the sort of thing that turns people into luddites

[abstract fiber]

brand new stalker 2 nft: your very own chunk of customized unique graphite lump sitting at the base of the wish granter

LOL

[ashen axle]

Preda#7625 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[vestal flower]

I love all of you who don't like this.

[twilit flower]

if they really keep the nft aspect through the game's release, and not just as some sort of pre-order bonus buy in, then I'd imagine it can't stay on the steam store

right?

[abstract fiber]

i don't care if it effects the game when it effects my sanity, Grygorovych

[compact girder]

If it doesn't affect the game why is it there?

[vague drum]

nope they're doing this to circumvent the blockchain ban

stalker 2 is technically not blockchain based rather than it has a blockchain integrated alongside

[hard stirrup]

if you guys are environmentalist, theres other ways to go about helping the environment other then complaining about a game using NFT's

[strong rivet]

No one asked for this, no one needed this, it brings zero benefit to the game or to the players, it's just done to make some fast cash and to appeal to the brain deaf NFT crowd that is willing to spend their yearly salary on a pixel monkey

[abstract fiber]

i cant wait until i have to register my firstborn into the blockchain system

[vague drum]

destroying the blockchain

[strong rivet]

The TF2 hat market does a better job than any NFT integration I've seen

@vague drum yeah like in that movie with will Smith and the robots

@finite dragon i don't know why I habe you blocked but i agree

[oblique jay]

TF2 hats and csgo skins is literally NFT

XD

[vague drum]

they're not

[hard stirrup]

in other words there no winning with how the world is developing

[twilit flower]

yeah, exactly this. there is no real reason to use blockchain except riding the nft hype

[compact girder]

im an environmentalist but while NFTs are wasteful its a drop in the ocean at the moment. again what bothers me specifically is NFTs being shoehorned into this particular game. its jarring and suspicious

[strong rivet]

I will cyber bullying any NFT nerd that shows in here

Go get a job

[oblique jay]

yeah yeah because they don't have that 'special' receipt in blockchain format right?

[hard stirrup]

bad or good the mass majority of people will decide in the long run.. if this NFT thing is a obvious scam no one with a double digit IQ will buy into it

[fleet wave]

NFTs literally use as much power as the ENTIRE COUNTRY OF ARGENTINA

[vague drum]

not only that but you're putting a time limit on the game too

[compact girder]

I dont feel like the environment is the best argument against NFTs just yet cause people just roll their eyes. Better argument is that they're stupid and pointless.

[oblique jay]

TRUE

[abstract fiber]

please, stop making me suicidal

[strong rivet]

I'm actually in Argentina right now @fleet wave

That's pretty amazing

[oblique jay]

Exactly it's stupid

Decentralized Digital currency is a mistake

[strong rivet]

@compact girder all technologies will be inefficient at first but promise some gains that will make it worth it, i dont see how NFTs do that

[balmy kernel]

should i stick to anomaly instead?
damn, i'm really looking forward to this game

[vestal basalt]

Yeah while i dislike NFTs, and NFTs and crypto in general hurt the environment, theres much bigger things to worry about when it comes to the environment.

[oblique jay]

do what you wish really

[compact girder]

@fleet wave Don't mean to downplay, I meant for this particular instance their uselessness is easier to argue with

[abstract fiber]

keep in mind that we're in the baby's first steps of the internet and digital stuff and such things, like we're out here carving squares into stone tablets when you think about it

[twilit flower]

isn't stupid in theory, but in practice it's wasted energy imo. no reason to use nfts to auction player model, or some crappy artwork. it's purely hype

[abstract fiber]

it's gonna be messy at first i guess. stalker series will be sumerian artifacts for the future generation lol

[compact girder]

I wasn't downplaying environmental issues at all, dont get me wrong. I meant Id rather focus on the stupidity of its placement in stalker 2

[fleet wave]

Fair enough

[abstract fiber]

entire research team scrambling to get a working emulation on their quantum computers

[oblique jay]

Should just be a donation thing, people who donate the most will get themself scanned in instead of NFT.

[abstract fiber]

no contact with the HQ for months, too busy playing

[strong rivet]

See that would be cash grabby but less cash grabby @oblique jay

[compact girder]

Agreed, they won't

Nothing tangible anyway

[vestal basalt]

but then they wouldnt attract the crypto whales and be able to sell 200,000 dollar NFTs

[oblique jay]

Huegh

[strong rivet]

Exactly

[compact girder]

Dont mind me, im still bitter about dungeon keeper 3 amongst others

[strong rivet]

People out here wasting their unemployment on NFTs

[slate forum]

More like rich kids

[strong rivet]

Oh for sure

[compact girder]

I assume there's a lot of slightly older more mature folks in here

[vestal basalt]

i had to take my grandma off life support so i could afford to buy a monkey jpeg but it was worth it because ya know crypto and stuff

[abstract fiber]

older yes, more mature? up for debate

[twilit flower]

this isn't worse than the pre-order boni imho. a marketing stunt for sure, but if they keep it out of the game (except the rewards like the npc models) it won't make a difference to gsc selling the opportunity conventionally

[compact girder]

haha

[strong rivet]

They can mint these nuts

[vestal basalt]

non fungible testicles

[compact girder]

Its not worse but sick of these precedents being set

[oblique jay]

Can someone edit a video of of SOC 'i want to become rich' ending with the coin replaced with nft monkey pictures and at the end the rubble that crushed strelok is just a picture of nft/crypto market crashing.

[compact girder]

Its not worse but shouldnt be normal eitehr

[strong rivet]

This is worse than the time i paid 28 dollars for ribs and they forgot my BBQ SAUCE!

[twilit flower]

agreed, Coactum. this doesn't leave a good taste in mouth either

[compact girder]

Like, how much of their development time was spent making this? And if it has no impact on the game then why did we pay for it?

[abstract fiber]

any mention of how many NFT guns/gun skins?

[twilit flower]

feels more like a marketing department idea

[strong rivet]

To bait crypto bros in

[compact girder]

And if its shipped with bugs, do we get angry that they used that time to make nft stuff instead of a finished product?

[strong rivet]

It's literally what it is

[compact girder]

Yep

[abstract fiber]

the marketing team has too much time on their hands POV

[strong rivet]

It's always the marketing people

[compact girder]

Well to me that leaves 3 ways dont it. They either chose to do it, they dropped the ball, or its part of a deal. Neither answer makes me hopeful

[strong rivet]

At my previous job marketing spent 780,000 on a brochure

[vestal basalt]

yeah I was honestly surprised to see such civil debates than just bickering and name calling back and forth. I think the community just cares so much about stalker that they actually want to see a change instead of other communities that just argue because they see other people arguing and dont even know what theyre talking about

[fleet wave]

I mean how out of touch do you have to be to think that people would want this

[strong rivet]

A BRLBCHUR

[abstract fiber]

do like bethesda and put 3 terminally ill people in the game

[strong rivet]

Speak for yourself in here to be pissy, unreasonable and angry !

[abstract fiber]

definitely a merc

[oblique jay]

someone need to make a meme mod that replaces artefact with nft monkeys as a joke

[vestal basalt]

this is what happens when a company tries to go AAA. All AAA companies are out of touch and do anything they can to make a quick buck.

[compact girder]

I saw on reddit and jumped on here figuring it'd be a hot topic

[strong rivet]

If so many parents hadn't left to buy milk years ago we wouldn't have people buying pixel monkeys for 30 grand

@compact girder i was chilling and my friend linked me an article

[abstract fiber]

the reddit is this discord but everyone is 10x as concerned about the entire planet becoming waterworld and 10x angrier to boot

[vestal basalt]

i saw an article and thought it was a troll until i went to reddit then came here. Now i'm wishing i got trolled.

[strong rivet]

I thought he was playing me

[oblique jay]

*4 million dollar

[strong rivet]

I feel you

[twilit flower]

the whole METAHUMAN aspect about this is just pure cringe 😄

[oblique jay]

yeah

[abstract fiber]

hopefully it sounds cooler in ukrainian

[compact girder]

Expert marketing huh

[oblique jay]

just wait until zuckerberg hear of this

[slate forum]

Lawsuit

[oblique jay]

yep

[vestal basalt]

yeah adding real people into games has existed forever lol they just added fancy words to it to make it sound like its worth a 300,000 dollar nft

[compact girder]

Just the kind of announcement that makes a veteran stalker fan sit and think "GSC really are listening to us"

[strong rivet]

U can't deny the lizard people at marketing are good at this

[slate forum]

Imagine if Zuckerberg loses

[fleet wave]

I speak a slavic language and i assure you it probably doesnt sound good

[twilit flower]

feels a lot like the METAVERSE too, with the main idea currently it just being something like a hybrid of vrchat and second life

[vestal basalt]

theres gonna be other npcs but theres only gonna be 3 npcs that are based on real life people

[oblique jay]

man, damn these nft i just wanna grill flesh meat.

[compact girder]

I was being sarcastic about the NFTs, but yeah i agree lol

[strong rivet]

Someone needs to send them a pizza but send it late and cold and with a burnt crust!

[compact girder]

I hope they get back

[fleet wave]

I genuinely hope it wont turn into complete radio silence

[compact girder]

If its ignored Ill probs just move on. Got Kenshi 2 coming sooner or later

[vestal basalt]

yeah when i saw the whole metaverse i was like thats literally like vr chat or club penguin, literally any other social hub type game that has existed for years.

[abstract fiber]

game doesn't even come out, stalker 2 was an elaborate ploy to boost the NFT market

[strong rivet]

Second life @vestal basalt

[oblique jay]

WE must sent some very expensive (scrennshoted) NFT

[strong rivet]

Reminds me of that game

[compact girder]

just a matter of time before someone comes along and does it better

[oblique jay]

yeah me too but since its from former facebook everyone talked about it

[compact girder]

if its not done right

[oblique jay]

Gmod RP> Metaverse

[strong rivet]

Anomaly makes my walnuts tingle in fear and excitement

[abstract fiber]

metaverse lookin like scuffed vr chat

[strong rivet]

Unironically true

[abstract fiber]

people still RP on gmod?

[strong rivet]

Yes

[compact girder]

man we used to smash ttt

[oblique jay]

I could never get in that STalker RP on gmod ever since my laptop is so bad

[abstract fiber]

christ alive, it's been years since i thought about that

[oblique jay]

Anyone played that Gmod Stalker RP server?

[abstract fiber]

same old same old? the STALKER stuff was usually pretty good

[compact girder]

i never went on that

[slate forum]

I would just wait until stalker 2 and see how it turns

[strong rivet]

Gmod is like a severely mentally deranged version of whatever game they have in ready player one

Can't believe it's still alive

They are making a new one on source 2

[oblique jay]

Stalker RP on Gmod source 2 lets goo

[twilit flower]

the metaverse how facebook sees it is just a monopoly, the vrchat aspect is marketing. just a taste of a product. metaverse to them just means everything (maybe a bit integrated) inside their walled garden

can't market it like that so just show vrchat social aspect

[oblique jay]

i never understand the metaverse concept is it like augmented reality? VR chat? the matrix? huh?

[fleet wave]

Yes

[twilit flower]

imo, the whole metaverse aspect is something that would grow organically, with someone laying some ground work before

and not controlled by a single entity

[compact girder]

fat chance haha

[twilit flower]

like the internet, just brought more into vr space. everything more integrated

[oblique jay]

i just imagined it like a sceond life thing but where ownership is based on blockchain and people trade stuff like it is worth something in real life despite not really

[compact girder]

it sounds like facebook but attached to my face, not a fan

[twilit flower]

the way facebook wants it, it would be

[oblique jay]

Neuralink + Metaverse

[vestal basalt]

atm it seems like its literally just vrchat with fancy words, but im assuming that in the long run they want to make it like some matrix or sword art online type stuff and make it an actual second life

[compact girder]

put your nfts on your armour

[twilit flower]

the metaverse isn't a facebook idea, though, they're just trying to make it one

[oblique jay]

*Me raiding someones home on the metaverse to steal their NFT

[quartz dagger]

It's like second life?

[vestal basalt]

pretty sure the metaverse concept has existed since like the late 90s

[oblique jay]

Will there be VR in stalker 2?

[twilit flower]

a mixture between the internet and second life. like a new "reality" where everything you do is connected in one interface

maybe a less abstracted internet

[oblique jay]

Also with blockchain proof of work ownership system

[compact girder]

more invisible it is the better its doing its job

[quartz dagger]

Ohhhh another way to spy people like facebook does

Understood

[oblique jay]

yes

[twilit flower]

yeah possibly. which is why facebook is so interested in getting its foot in the door

[quartz dagger]

Then i don't want Meta (i don't have money to pay for that too haha)

[twilit flower]

if one corporation gets to create the metaverse, which does seem absurd, then they have won

[vestal basalt]

yeah a virtual reality where they can watch literally everything you do, sounds like something zuckerberg would do

[compact girder]

facebook was absurd at first. i remember when it first started and no-one used it. it was still geeky and weird

[twilit flower]

not only that, but tax and influence every aspect of their users' lives

[quartz dagger]

You want metaverse? Play second life and that's it

[compact girder]

like pre facebook to post facebook, the difference is crazy

i didnt see it sticking until it did either

[oblique jay]

i wonder if someone run a poll on opinion of NFT on this discord what the ratio of like and dislike it will be

[compact girder]

i would like to know the majority of people who have something positive to say about it, thats it.

cause lots of people will not care

who thinks it will be beneficial

[quartz dagger]

I just don't want to pay for stupid shits on a single player game like dead space 3

Or battlefront

Only to play better

[oblique jay]

Dead space 3 and extra resources ..........................yeah that is stupid.

[compact girder]

this stuff runs on apathy

[twilit flower]

this could or could not happen in stalker 2 regardless of nfts

nfts have nothing to do with it really

[quartz dagger]

But stalker 2 will have a multiplayer mode?

[twilit flower]

and tbh the pre order boni are already like this

[oblique jay]

i wonder what is the general opinion on the meta human NFT on the Ru and Ua channel

[compact girder]

Yeah I wondered

[twilit flower]

yeah it will, after release. but microtransactions are 1. a given and 2. not depending on blockchain

[oblique jay]

true

[twilit flower]

using blockchain for these micro or even macrotransactions isn't necessary. a waste even. but right now it's the buzz

[native ibex]

Was there a ping earlier

[oblique jay]

What ping? for you maybe?

[native ibex]

Must have been

[oblique jay]

i wonder if there is like russia secret agent as a faction in the zone and they are trying to steal info or artefact or doing something in stalker 2 hmmmmmm

[tiny olive]

Their guns have Novichok

[finite dragon]

Bruh who wants my putink vodka nft? 109084739738373947$ only a good price

[pure blaze]

NFTs?

[pure blaze]

I will buy 0.01 ETH

[topaz prawn]

How much do I pay to get to be an NPC in the game?

[fleet glacier]

Who Wants a Makarov for 20,000 Rubles

[topaz prawn]

That's a little expensive for a Mak around here lol

Can get a TT-33 for that

[fleet glacier]

Recently heard about the NFT Stuff going on, They're being absolutely Destroyed on Twitter.

[topaz prawn]

Meh, at least it will be actual fans? Cyberpunk put Alanah Pearce, Yong Yea, etc into Cyberpunk.

[finite dragon]

Nah gotta make a profit big fat man in cordon sold me the vodka for 100 bit coin

[topaz prawn]

At the end of the day it's up to you as a human to decide what anything is worth to you! I couldn't find on their twitter how much they were or where to buy haha

Hell, I paid $200 to get to be a canonised character in Battletech on kickstarter

[quaint sluice]

How can I get stalker nfts?

[topaz prawn]

I literally have no care for the economic bit of cryptoi/nft etc, but yeah getting a canon character in a universe is something I like to do haha

[fleet glacier]

Even Reddit is in Disarray.

[finite dragon]

The crying about the NFT is hilarious. Literally who cares, just play gg ez.

[fickle bison]

Someone made a buttplug.io integration for STALKER Anomaly

[topaz prawn]

Technology.

[frail kernel]

Pays 200 for a canonized character in Stalker 2, dies from an emission as soon as he arrives in the Zone, gotta pay another 200 for a new character

[topaz prawn]

Based.

[still nymph]

I dont get that why out of every game company its these guys who do nft integration of all things?

[finite dragon]

If you can't by NFT's it means you probably can't afford to pay rent and playing a game is the last thing you should do, you hobo

[fickle bison]

Money. Grygorovich does anything to maximise money

[topaz prawn]

The use of NFT to do what they are doing is odd ish but at the same time, I dunno

It's whatever it is.

The NFT part of this should be considered some random ad-on to the character likeness lol

[finite dragon]

Just get the game or don't, crying about it won't change anything, people act like it's a surprise that a company is gonna try to get more money

[frail kernel]

The way inflation is going, I doubt anyone can do much beyond pay for rent and eat cheap noodles

[finite dragon]

Stop being poor

[frail kernel]

Its called stagflation, wages stay the same, dollar is worth less and less, prices on everything goes up

[finite dragon]

Sounds like rentoid talk

[ashen axle]

INC#7586 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[steel dagger]

duck NFTS

[still nymph]

Will the nfts change the game in any way apart from the unmoving untalking npc hidden in the far corner of the map

[topaz prawn]

In the end it's up to you to, or not to, pay for them. Want to have your likeness in the game, there ya go. Don't? Don't lol

[long harbor]

jesus christ, it's still going?

[frail kernel]

I'm not paying an arm and a leg for some single use digital thing.

[finite dragon]

Doubt it

[long harbor]

this started at like 9 AM for me and now it's 2:33 PM

[topaz prawn]

I just want to know the price and where to get them haha

[finite dragon]

Then don't pay bro lol poor

[steel dagger]

u guys made us angry. not cool

[long harbor]

average clear sky budget

[still nymph]

K then im probably still gonna get it

[ashen axle]

Konman#4596 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

Duck yeah i'm gon get it

[oblique jay]

oh, this remind me in a gmod stalker RP server i once sold several scavanged makarov pistol for like 500-1000 ruble to other player which by that server standard overpriced XD

[frail kernel]

I'm likely gonna wait till the game goes on a 75% to 90% sale

[topaz prawn]

Well then it doesn't really matter if they had NFT or not then lol, hell that's more incentive for them to try more experimental methods of monetisation

[frail kernel]

I'm not made of money and I'd like to eat too

[long harbor]

you guys are poor and live in the swamp, haha

[abstract fiber]

im not sure anyone could eat at all if they could only afford to buy video games 90% off

cancel your internet bill and buy some ramen bro, signal in the swamps is terrible anyways even with the best plan

[frail kernel]

Its just microtransactions with a different name. Its just like Halo Infinite charging 30 bucks for just 1 helmet and making sure your battle pass progression is so throttled that 90 hours into the game you look no different than you did when you started

[topaz prawn]

It's a cosmetic item in a free game, just don't buy it.

[frail kernel]

After they promised that you could earn armor and skins in the campaign and through challenges?

[abstract fiber]

based and self-control pilled

[finite dragon]

Average Europe enjoyer 😚

[topaz prawn]

You can earn armour, and skins, through both.

[full estuary]

Damn people still discussing this

[sullen fable]

If the game is gonna be fine, then i cant care less about nfs

[finite dragon]

I just stole 2$ from a child

[topaz prawn]

Yeah I don't... get this "holy s*** this different shade of the armour costs $20! I must have it!" I don't get it lol. I'll only ever pay for somethign I want.

[frail kernel]

I buy games at 90% off when I really want the game but don't want to support the company for their bulldonkery

[wraith eagle]

If they add nfts im not buying the game. If any microtransaction exists i wont buy the game. I wont buy it if they turn it into a soulless game. Im not gonna watch a great franchise get ruined like all the other games that turned to mush. Ill pretend it doesnt exist and just play anomaly.

[finite dragon]

Average cope

[abstract fiber]

wont be buying it then because it's not an "if"

[topaz prawn]

It just sounds like you wouldn't buy the game period, and you want to grand-stand and virtue signal?

[abstract fiber]

o7, he was a good sdalger

[finite dragon]

Like bro The game is on game pass u can try it almost for free ☠️

[wraith eagle]

I dont use xbox

[finite dragon]

Still game pass pc

[frail kernel]

I personally believe that should be free. Its literally just a reskin. Why are they trying to pinch pennies like that? Don't they know good will goes a long way?

[wraith eagle]

I dont use gamepass

[topaz prawn]

Yeah gamepass is on PC

[vestal basalt]

just sail the seven seas and get it when its on sale for 100% off

[abstract fiber]

cause the game is free... and they need money to keep it up... and who would turn down people throwing money at them?

[finite dragon]

Yeah just buy game pass for 6$ when stalker comes out and try the game ☠️☠️

[wraith eagle]

Yeah no

[finite dragon]

Bro u dumb 🤣

[abstract fiber]

i love customization in games and am equally miffed when it's artificially throttled but in a free game i also understand why they do it

[finite dragon]

If u don't want to spend 60$ or whatever the game cost try it out first

[topaz prawn]

Exactly what Conchobar said, the game is free... they spent over a hundred mil to develop the game, why do you think they did that? To make money.

Yeah I dislike how slow the unlocks are, that needs better balancing but doesn't bother me too much.

Or rather I dislike it forces you to use wonky guns in game-modes that gun shouldn't be used in lol

[frail kernel]

The game isn't free even if the multiplayer is free

[finite dragon]

Halo is better on Nintendo DS

[topaz prawn]

Facts.

[finite dragon]

U know me only spitting True Fax

[frail kernel]

I'm probably gonna just do that. So many games nowadays you gotta wait more than 3 or 4 months after it launches just for anything to be fixed on it anyway. I bet Stalker 2 is gonna be a buggy mess on release

[abstract fiber]

bruh

[topaz prawn]

Prooobably? It's an open world game, and a STALKER game, I expect some jank lol. But I am gonna buy and support regardless so long as I fee the shooting mechanics get more realistic. They looked a bit too arcade/floaty

But that might have just been for the trailer?

[abstract fiber]

we'll see when they drop actual gameplay, which should be right around the corner if they stick to their original promised schedule

[frail kernel]

I'm not gonna support spit in my eye or piss down my back

[topaz prawn]

Yeah, I am excited and a little nervous, I love STALKER's gunplay I think only Tarkov did something similar?

[vestal basalt]

25,000 dollars for the gameplay footage nft

each frame sold seperately

[abstract fiber]

why are you still whinging in here, we get it, you're not gonna buy it unless it's good

that's like 90% of sane people and what everyone else is also going to do

[abstract fiber]

tarkov's gunplay is sick, hope it's closer to that than what we saw in the last trailer

[frail kernel]

Because I want it to be good, because I hope that it will be good. If I didn't complain, then that means I wouldn't care about it. The people who love it the most complain when it starts doing poorly

[abstract fiber]

we don't know how it's doing at all though, pre-emptive complaining here

[topaz prawn]

lol yeah exactly, I doubt GSC would make arcade gunplay tbh so I think it was just made floaty for the interest of the trailer, to go run and gun for current day audience?

[frail kernel]

Thats why I'm complaining now. Best do it now while they have a chance to hear it and maybe change it before I open my wallet

[topaz prawn]

The NFT has nothing to do with if the game is good or bad, it's just extra monetisation

[abstract fiber]

yeah the fact that they've somehow found the time to go putting three NFTs in the game is concerning but it's hardly an indicator of the state of the gameplay

season pass, blegh, whatever, nobody plays STALKER for the MP

ok well maybe someone did but i sure as hell didn't

[frail kernel]

I don't believe it'll be "Just Extra Monetization" I believe if it isn't shouted down, it could be the integral part of game progression that would sour the whole game

[abstract fiber]

that's literal insanity

[wraith eagle]

This is loot crate 2.0 nfts are the new loot crates and everyone is jumping on it

[frail kernel]

Is it? Have you seen how far these "Games as a Service" have gone?

[abstract fiber]

$300,000 to complete the next story mission guys, the bandits raided sidorovich's NFT blockchain server and now we have to replace all his GPUs to progress

[fickle bison]

If it were, its would get instantly delisted from steam

[topaz prawn]

I make games, like, CRPG, hundreds of hours of dialogue etc etc games. We could literally plug an NFT into the game in like 4 ish hours. It could inject that ID into the game be recognised via patreon's O-AUTH system and change the texture on something, it would literally be 4 hours of work.

I am not kidding, 4 hours. All the chain etc is already made

A character being a fan's likeness, is not integral to the game

[abstract fiber]

yea, typical overreaction

[frail kernel]

Thats exactly what it is

[topaz prawn]

Yeah I see this as it is, game development is insanely expensive and they want to bring that overhead down somehow

[abstract fiber]

could be, or it's some money scheme from the upper management

[frail kernel]

Either way, I don't trust it.

[abstract fiber]

what's most likely of all is that it'll ultimately have absolutely no bearing on the game itself and we'll all have forgotten about it in a month's time

[topaz prawn]

It all ends up being the same thing for the same purposes typically, that money will find its way back into the game somehow

Yeup, launch is ages away no one will remember this after a few weeks

[abstract fiber]

psure if NFTs hadn't blown up as a meme this wouldn't even be a discussion point right now

[topaz prawn]

lol prolly not no

[long harbor]

sounds like CoD battle pass

[frail kernel]

I have my hesitancy, I am afraid the game could be ruined completely by this. Im already refusing to buy this game day one like I had planned prior to this announcement

[fickle bison]

I highly doubt some seething twitter, reddit and steam discussion users will dissuade gsc from doing the nft thing

[abstract fiber]

it's like if everyone was losing their minds over chernobylite's top backers getting a paid trip to the real exclusion zone, thinking that this somehow meant that it was a slippery slope and you'd need to pay real money to unlock in-game zones and progress or something

it's supremely over the top

[sullen fable]

"Completely" dude like, cmon

[twilit flower]

the controversy might even help get the word out that stalker 2 is a thing

[fickle bison]

"WE MUST HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD" bro stfu pepsiman is too busy snorting pepsi to care

[abstract fiber]

LMAO

[topaz prawn]

Well, no, not at all.

A COD battlepass has a skip purchase which gives you enough points to get the next battle pass which incentives a person to likely pay to skip again operating on the principal of FOMO.

A one time purchase of an armour set on Halo Infinite which never goes away, never vanishes, is not utilising any of the same business decisions or marketing tactics.

[abstract fiber]

infinitely better sales tactics from an ethical pov

i despise the battle/season passes

[topaz prawn]

Yeah extremely, that and Infinite's battle seasons things, are permanent when you buy them. Same I quit Warframe because of their nightwave thing haha

[frail kernel]

You wanna see it dead on arrival or do you wanna see Stalker thrive?

[abstract fiber]

mountain out of a molehill, folks

you've spent too long in the swamps, friend, go stretch your legs in the cordon

[fickle bison]

STALKER is gonna thrive despite what GSC does

[abstract fiber]

swampwater fumes are getting to you, nothing to worry about

[topaz prawn]

People said they were going to boycott EA games and Rogue Squadrons or Fallen Order would flop etc because of the amazing boycott power of people. Guess what, people buy it anyways.

[sullen fable]

i want a experience, the simmilar one.with shadow of cherno, if the nfs.wont affect gameplay, its gonna be fine

[frail kernel]

I'm just fine in my hidden little base

[fickle bison]

All those people who scream "I WONT BUY IT, CANCELLED MY PRE-ORDER" will either buy it when its on sale or pirate it

[topaz prawn]

The people who were going to buy STALKER, are going to buy STALKER still. The people who weren't aren't.

[wraith eagle]

This along with all the editions available (because modern gaming, cant have just 1 edition), the fact its coming on console so they will probably simplify or dumb down things to reach the mainstream gamer, im very skeptical. Way too many franchises got ruined in the last few years. This could be one of the next that gets ruined. While nfts on their own dont indicate what the state of the game is, its a bad sign. Just as if they added loot boxes.

[topaz prawn]

I am slightly worried they will water and simplify it down yeah

[twilit flower]

ppl are just disappointed that their beloved franchise is being used as a vehicle to drive the newest exploitation methods, although imo NFT doesn't even play into it as a big factor. it's just ppl once again realizing the unscrupulous methods that they're being milked with.

[topaz prawn]

But NFT's mean nothing to me.

[finite dragon]

U still got anomaly

[fickle bison]

"simplify and dumb down" why does everyone act like STALKER was some hardcore sim

Smh anomaly has rotted peoples brains

[finite dragon]

It's Literally shoot Bad russsisn guys

[wraith eagle]

@fickle bison you telling me the average gamer that plays fifa fallout or cod plays the original stalkers??

[abstract fiber]

kinda true yeah

[vestal basalt]

yeah vanilla stalker was honestly a pretty simple game,

[topaz prawn]

It was kind of a rough game tbh, had a ton of management and guns could really get away from you. Plus the game was really hard if you didn't play it on master. NEVER play Stalker on Novice lol @fickle bison

[frail kernel]

Well I don't know if it will affect gameplay or not. When Lootboxes and Microtransactions started, they all affected gameplay pretty heavily. They change the name to NFT and they might get the idea that they can charge 50 bucks for a 900 damage AK when all the enemies in the game are buffed to have health in the thousands and the base game guns barely eek out 5 points of damage

[fickle bison]

OOOH I CAN LEAN, HAVE 2 DIFFRENT TYPES OF CROUCHING AND HAVE A GRID INVENTORY, SOOOO COMPLEX

[twilit flower]

I'm going bold here and assume that most ppl didn't exactly love the soc gunplay, especially early gunplay

with peashooters and bullet sponges

[abstract fiber]

bro this is so comical it would be over-the-top in a corporatist parody like cyberpunk

[fickle bison]

The whole "play on master" has been proven to be false tho

[topaz prawn]

Really? Hm

Still not gonna play on novice, master seems easier lol

[sullen fable]

depends if skins affect gameplay a lot, like an ak that oneshots

[frail kernel]

Been done before, you really confident it won't happen again?

[abstract fiber]

this NFT scheme would never work as a microtransaction system with any permanency because there are INFINITELY more efficient ways to do it; see TF2's hats or CSGO's knife skins. they don't need blockchains, it's just unique and it's yours and the uniqueness determines the value and the owner owns it.

[topaz prawn]

Yeah NFT's is such a weird way to do this lol but who cares

[abstract fiber]

NFT just implies the stupid tracking system and it's wasteful and burdensome and won't become a staple

[fleet glacier]

"Greedy Executives, Dangerous PR Moves, NFT's, And Possible Micro. NONE OF THEM WILL STOP DUTY on its Attempted March on Saving The Franchise."

[finite dragon]

Cringe duty again 😬

[fleet glacier]

Don't Quote me on this.

[fickle bison]

Yeah, bullet damage doesnt change, the damage you take does. People just experienced the pmm start in SoC and just went wild with theories

[topaz prawn]

Funny thing is "THESE EXECUTIVES ARE SO GREEDY! Poor developers... I won't buy ANYTHING from this company ever again!?"

You mean you wont' do the one thing that pays the developers? lol

[abstract fiber]

also paid progression in a singleplayer setting is absurd and only a handful of companies have sunk low enough to do it — namely ubisoft, surprise surprise

[twilit flower]

micro, greed, etc are a given nowadays. it's just the added nft craze that's kind of new

[abstract fiber]

i'd die of a heart attack if GSC did anything of the sort

[twilit flower]

and like @abstract fiber said, nft isn't anything of value as an addition. just fluff that's riding on the recent hype wave

[fleet glacier]

Feel free to use this quote. Don't credit me though.

[abstract fiber]

so far it looks like we'll have a pretty modern (see: overindulgent) take on DLC and unlockables, but it also seems geared towards the multiplayer, which is great, that's how it should be

some day-1 side-missions being DLC, meh, whatever. if they're good you can pick them up in a year for pennies, usually how it goes

[long harbor]

"Greedy Executives, Dangerous PR Moves, NFT's, And Possible Micro. NONE OF THEM WILL STOP DUTY on its Attempted March on Saving The Franchise." @fleet glacier

[rustic mist]

i litterally never preorder, and legit the moment i do they announce this nft stuff

so dissapointed

[fleet glacier]

AAAAAA

[long harbor]

see? this is why you don't pre-order stuff

wait for it's release and watch some professional youtubers talk about it

[abstract fiber]

is the retail version live in the states yet?

[rustic mist]

i had cash back on my credit card, so it didnt really cost anything but like still

[twilit flower]

I hope they'll do more with the multiplayer than in previous stalker games. I don't want story coop, I want something like a stalker multiplayer freeplay/rpg.

[rustic mist]

doesnt make it any less wack lol

[abstract fiber]

maybe one day, chief. maybe one day.

[sullen fable]

well see

[sullen fable]

for that im waiting for ray of hope

[fickle bison]

You guys know that GSC executives have undisclosed amounts of crypto currency?

[frail kernel]

Is it such a bad thing to just be warry, hold my money, and make smart choices especially when it comes down to eating or buying an increasingly expensive game?

[abstract fiber]

nope, not a soul is contesting that

big difference between that and "the game is ruined forever because of an NFT gimmick" though

[abstract fiber]

well yeah that's why they're doing this lmao

[topaz prawn]

P.much

[sullen fable]

no , the problem is overreacting because of something not that significant

[fickle bison]

Your money is yours, you spend it how you please

like, if you wanna cancel your pre-order over this, like more power to you

who are we to judge how you spendyour money

[ashen axle]

SunlightSeeker#2348 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sullen fable]

i will buy monolith skirt , and again, and again

[abstract fiber]

sidorovich chicken wing NFT 😳

[frail kernel]

I don't like live service games. NFT is just a new form of live service game

[twilit flower]

you don't buy sidorovich nft, you INVEST

[abstract fiber]

that's just downright wrong

[frail kernel]

How am I wrong? You're buying cosmetics at heavy prices in a game

[abstract fiber]

if the NFT was the core part of the game or its gameplay, sure, but in it's implementation within the game it's limited to proof of ownership (hurr durr such a stupid idea, i despise this)

nothing about the NFT's existence requires you to be always online?

[sullen fable]

or just dont

[lyric zinc]

Say no to nfts and promoting a scam market.

[abstract fiber]

i'll eat my shoes if this somehow turns into a "market"

none of us on here could afford to get into it anyways

any of you actually considering buying $50,000 custom gun skins?

[autumn timber]

The devs would perhaps get more support by simply asking the community to support them via donations than this NFT scheme

[frail kernel]

Well if you want to see it, don't you have to be online?

[frail kernel]

All live service models are nothing but scam markets

[fickle bison]

this stalker nft is about the right of having your face on an NPC, doesnt require an online conncetiob

[lyric zinc]

No, NFTs are really a genuine scam market. Manipulated and kept manipulable, just like real world art.

[autumn timber]

Some people made millions of dollars in few hours via NFT. Sounds like money laundering scheme

[brazen hemlock]

Devs have already been paid, they just could go to another company

[frail kernel]

Why would anyone want their face on a nobody NPC that's just gonna get killed by an emission or a chimera?

[vestal basalt]

yeah most super expensive NFTs are for money laundering

[abstract fiber]

no, the point of an NFT is not to be persistent art of some nonsense, but to prove you're the "true" owner of the "original" item in question

[fickle bison]

or used for rule 34 sfm porn

[sullen fable]

a little too specific

[abstract fiber]

even if it it exists offline in your copy of the game, the person with the blockchain of the NFT is the "true owner" and that's all that matters to them

it's really, really stupid and will have no bearing on the game itself unless they go full retard

[frail kernel]

That won't stop the artists from ripping the models

[fickle bison]

NFT's are like those "own a piece of moon land" scams from the 90's

[abstract fiber]

exactly LOL

[brazen hemlock]

Make no mistake, this is probably a decision of the company, not devs, do you think Cyberpunk devs wanted what Cyberpunk was?

[nova crag]

I'm a girl uwu

[fickle bison]

except owning a piece of moon is illegal due to the current legal UN framework

[hazy helm]

run that by me one more time

[abstract fiber]

buy the STALKER 2 NFTs so we finally have babes in the zone

[frail kernel]

You really want an NFT, you'd buy an oil painting and hang it on your wall

[abstract fiber]

yeah, exactly

[fickle bison]

Current legal framework of the UN does not allow private ownership of any celestial body

[abstract fiber]

if you think im mounting a defense of NFTs you're sorely mistaken

[fickle bison]

space is free for everyone

[abstract fiber]

i've known about them for three days and im sick of them

i just think people are really overblowing them

[sullen fable]

i can see why youre in freedom

[hazy helm]

Kek,UN wants to help the moon but refuses to help any country on earth

[abstract fiber]

😏

im gettin tired of the bloodsuckers

[sullen fable]

is hip not enough?

[abstract fiber]

she ran off with the barricade's entire stash of the good stuff bro, not seen her in months

[frail kernel]

Why buy into one money laundering scheme when you can buy lead, brass, gold, or silver?

[lyric zinc]

The UN doesn't have the means to enforce any of its policies. Neither here or in space, you can safely ignore whatever they say.

[abstract fiber]

again, i am not supporting NFTs

they are STUPID

and i HATE them, because it's a very bad precedent

they just also aren't going to make stalker 2 the worst thing since the nazis

[frail kernel]

They are stupid, but the brass economy is booming

[abstract fiber]

is this insider info, bro?

might need to invest in brass...

[sullen fable]

hit ne with some brass bro

[lyric zinc]

It does jeopardize the experience, and the Steam listing. Plus sets a horrible precedent.

[abstract fiber]

i fail to see how it could jeopardize the singleplayer experience, unless some arsehole pays 20 grand for an ahegao variant of the AK that's stuck in our singleplayer sessions

[compact cobalt]

NFT 🤮

[frail kernel]

Brass and lead are the hottest selling items in the US. If I gotta spend my extra money, I'd sooner spend it on ordinance over microtransactions

[abstract fiber]

ohhh gun violence meme, ok

[sullen fable]

at this point i can see some groups on the subject of nfs in stalker
1.people who dont care/dont know.about.it
2.people who will invest
3.people who complain about it
4.people who think that it wont impact the game

[frail kernel]

More like gun hoarder meme. Not as much violence as there are big safes under the houses of old red necks filled with enough brass to make thousands of tubas and enough lead to poison the pacific ocean

[tranquil cloak]

Real people would be in the game, so what do they mean? Monthly patches for people to replace vanilla NPCs?

[brazen hemlock]

Nope, but people have the right to complain and that complain can be cancelling pre orders, it's the only way companies learn

[tranquil cloak]

Or maybe add them in then make a list of patch notes with usernames of all buyers?

[frail kernel]

You could also make a Metro currency meme out of it

[abstract fiber]

no, that's like thinking bethesda will slowly begin filling their games with real-life old women and the terminally ill because they promised to put some notables into ES6

by all accounts its a one-time gimmick

[lyric zinc]

The person scanned, depending on who, could be very immersion breaking in the context of the zone.

[compact cobalt]

I don't want to buy a game to see random real ppl in the game, wtf

[abstract fiber]

hopefully it stays that way too

[frail kernel]

Theyve been doing that since Daggerfall though

[abstract fiber]

mfw see a black person in the zone

[sullen fable]

yeah i too play stalker to dodge real people

[tranquil cloak]

I really hope we get an option to disable that mechanic, anyone else who wants to see real people might enable that option

I just want stalker with on its own world

[abstract fiber]

disables that option / grygorovych's cameo is removed / muffled sobbing from gsc game world hq

[lyric zinc]

Add the context, were in the official discord, so you're missing the people that just hit refund and forgot about it. Some trackers set that number between 10 and 30k

[twilit flower]

no reason for all sorts of ppl to not be in the zone, except game budget

[topaz prawn]

As a game developer, that's silly as fuck. You think there is an infinite amount of jobs in the gaming industry? lol when one of these huge companies die off, the majority of people can no logner work in this industry.

[lyric zinc]

Funny because most original devs went ahead and funded their own failure, I mean studio.

[frail kernel]

I'm serious though, Bethesda have been making player tributes since Daggerfall. I know several tombs in Morrowind were dedicated to dead fans and coworkers as well as several off hand characters who were staff and living fans

[compact cobalt]

I think GSC should rather focus on bug-less game and don't repeat fail with first stalker than add bullshits like nft

[sullen fable]

i mean valaska is right implementing this ist that time consuming

[brazen hemlock]

Nah, they'll be fine. Have you seen CDPR devs? They have found other companies

[abstract fiber]

that's pretty cool, i didn't know that. however my point was that the assertion to which i was replying was silly because every npc in the game isn't going to be some 3d-scanned casual investor. just the 3 related to the NFT gimmick.

[tranquil cloak]

I really hope GSC would add an option to disable/enable (NFTs)

[gritty lark]

Nobody cares bout any opinion here. Remember. Gaming isnt the same, community matters nothing nowadays. I dont think devs will change anything.

[abstract fiber]

of course they won't lol

[gritty lark]

They say they wont

[tranquil cloak]

Ooooooo what a bummer

So they forcefully implement it within gameplay?

[abstract fiber]

we don't even know what 'it' is yet

[compact cobalt]

they may, if the game will not sell well

[brazen hemlock]

Then why a Discord? XD

[potent bluff]

You cant just cancel the agreement with Dmarket

[gritty lark]

Its another story

[abstract fiber]

not in detail, anyways. worst case scenario people will have mods to remove the stuff

[brazen hemlock]

They can, I'm sure

[potent bluff]

i think their will be fine

money fine

sorry my eng suck

[cedar forum]

Hello everyone

[compact cobalt]

I hope

[gritty lark]

Still. Players who awaited this game for 10 yrs will suffer also. So its no win sitch anyhow.

[potent bluff]

Agreement between company always has fine when you break the agreement

[abstract fiber]

yeah there's no backing out of it anyways at this point

[brazen hemlock]

I hope Xbox and Valve act, if they act they will have to remove it

[abstract fiber]

but why would they? i don't seriously believe for a second that they'd sabotage their own release by suddenly taking that atmosphere we all know and love and then tossing it out the window

[sullen fable]

you sure? sonic the movie got kinda yknow

[topaz prawn]

Wat

[abstract fiber]

backing out as in backing out of any legal agreement related to the nfts and the blockchain providers

not the situation overall lol

[topaz prawn]

CDPR hired more people, they retained most their staff, and the people who left who I know personally went to other industries, completely leaving the game industry because there was no work to be found @brazen hemlock

Game dev is pretty limited set of skills etc and not all positions can move over to security companies and live-ops of storefronts

[steel finch]

What is stalker metaverse? Is that a online Stalker or something?

[gritty lark]

Welcome to the world, bro. World is cruel.

[brazen hemlock]

Not only other industries, there are game devs I followed on Twitter and they changed from company

[abstract fiber]

doomer moment

[cedar forum]

NFT crap

[gritty lark]

The greed

[brazen hemlock]

Changing from company is a normal thing after a project

[topaz prawn]

Ok, you follow 4-5 people. Great? You realise CDPR employs 865 people? Local governments brag when they add 50 jobs to an industry because it's that big of a deal.

[brazen hemlock]

I follow a lot of guys

[topaz prawn]

No, rapid turnover is not normal.

[abstract fiber]

yea, people are greedy, but some thinly-veiled greedy overtures by the executives at GSC shouldn't ruin the game

[brazen hemlock]

What it's not normal is staying in a company for 10 or more years

[sullen fable]

that sounded a bit gay, not bad thing tho

[topaz prawn]

About 10-15

[abstract fiber]

the NFTs, if implemented as they are being implied they shall be implemented, are at best going to seamlessly blend into the gameworld and improve it for the better, and at worst be nuisances that can be removed through the immense moddability of UE5

[topaz prawn]

That's the "average"

[abstract fiber]

im not worried about it

[topaz prawn]

But a good third of developers in this industry stay life-long

[arctic rover]

stalker nfts are good

[topaz prawn]

Recent turnover rates are pretty oiver-heated

[abstract fiber]

i cant wait to invest in my very own personalized chunk of irradiated graphite NFT sitting at the foot of the wish granter

[brazen hemlock]

Says no one ever

[sullen fable]

i want to invest in dead rat in sidorovich basement

[abstract fiber]

well he said it, so at least one person said it ever

[arctic rover]

dude its just a face of irl person in stalker 2 thats all

[brazen hemlock]

Nope, that's not my problem, this is a precedent for other games

[arctic rover]

and you make it look like gigantic tragedy

[brazen hemlock]

It is a tragedy

[arctic rover]

it isint

[compact cobalt]

it starts with face, and where it ends?

[lyric zinc]

Purples doing their job. It's a Blockchain linked token and a partnership with dmarket

[abstract fiber]

you and i both know where it ends 😏

[brazen hemlock]

It is, but whatever, if you want videogame industry to become a casino and cash grab it's you

[abstract fiber]

bro it already is

[arctic rover]

part of money gained from NFTs go to charity

[long harbor]

real life pp size

[brazen hemlock]

But each day more and more, and it's s***

[carmine raven]

Hello i just found out Stalker2is going to do nft can someone explain what that means? In simple English pls

[abstract fiber]

NFT's are literally the exact same as TF2 hats and CSGO skins except with a gimmicky way to "prove" you own them

[coarse reef]

Its not about what it does in the game, its about the practice itself

[carmine raven]

Thank ypu man

[arctic rover]

someone's face will be in stalker 2 if they pay cor it or smth

[long harbor]

non fungible tokens

[arctic rover]

for*

[brazen hemlock]

Scamming people to buy png and destroying environment because of blockchain

[lyric zinc]

Auction of a Blockchain linked asset that proves you're the owner of a digital asset, in this case an npc that will have the owners face

[potent bluff]

Oopse wrong tag sorry

[potent bluff]

NFT a chance to become NPCs in the game... thats all

[carmine raven]

I mean iwork at blockchain service so I know what itis i want to know what kind of nft it is

[arctic rover]

if there will be microtransactions in S2 i hope they will be only in multiplayer

[abstract fiber]

3 in-game NPCs modeled off of the owners and an uncertain number of weapons/weapon skins

[sullen fable]

ye

[novel agate]

#🟢-reddit tells you everything you need to know

[zealous jungle]

Why does it have to be NFTs tho?

[novel agate]

Its the 🏴‍☠️ life for me

[abstract fiber]

to attract more aggressive investment by jumping on the trend

[lyric zinc]

Money laundering, hoping on the bandwagon

[abstract fiber]

that's the only reason

[potent bluff]

also weapon skin?

[carmine raven]

Ok i get the weapon skin but what with NPC?

[novel agate]

We have already seen from their preorder screen that they are locking content behind paywalls

Singleplayer content behind paywalls

[lyric zinc]

Will have the NFTs owner face on it.

[zealous jungle]

It’s well known NFTs aren’t liked by the majority. There are enough ways to sell things in game without using this crap

[sullen fable]

sort of dlc on launch?

[carmine raven]

WTH? For real?

[brazen hemlock]

Let's wait for review bombing...

[arctic rover]

and multiplayer will come as a free update

[abstract fiber]

yes lol, three NPCs with the NFT owner's likeness

probably just the original owner, can't afford to remodel if they trade it

[lyric zinc]

Yeah, on auction till the games release, las owner gets their face scanned into the game.

[novel agate]

When i was young we didnt have to deal with this crap, we paid for a game and got the full thing on cd

[abstract fiber]

alas, times change

for the worse it seems, day by day

[potent bluff]

yes.... crypto ruin everything

[carmine raven]

Damm D3vs must been ran of money

[lyric zinc]

Only if you "deal with it". Report for fraud on steam, and refund preorder.

[brazen hemlock]

If videogame industry continues this way they are losing a costumer

[compact cobalt]

old good times..

[abstract fiber]

fraud!?

[potent bluff]

they said they will donate the money somewhere tho.....

[sullen fable]

in most cases, you still do, but you.have an option to get something like a cosmetic

[novel agate]

Gaming has absolutely eclipsed all traditional forms of media by revenue, so now its the worst people who own and manage game studios doing this crap.

[zealous jungle]

I hope they notice how bad this idea was

[abstract fiber]

i think all they've noticed is that us lot have too much time on our hands

[brazen hemlock]

Nah, there is no going back at this point...

[novel agate]

The metro series is the true successor to stalker at this point, i canceled my preorder with the news of the nft

[brazen hemlock]

Unless Valve or Xbox do something

[carmine raven]

Is that npc face gooner forked on ETD?

[sullen fable]

im in school, havent been caught yet

[hazy helm]

I'm pretty sure they were plannin this since April 2020 and are in too deep to back out,need to obey the partnership with dmarket too

[brazen hemlock]

Didn't Xbox pay some money for the game?

[abstract fiber]

of course, it's not a funding thing

profit, maybe, but not funding

most likely personal profit for the execs, not for the studio itself

[brazen hemlock]

The execs have Ethereum

[zealous jungle]

I think most of you feel the same but I can’t describe how much I hate this. Way to ruin the game

[brazen hemlock]

That's why they want this xD

[abstract fiber]

i don't understand how people keep trickling in and coming to the conclusion the game is forever ruined by this

[novel agate]

Have a goodnight gentlemen, im going to sit by the campfire and reminisce on better times when my favorite franchises weren’t spoiled by greed

Back to modding anomaly again

[hazy helm]

The infamy gotten by the 3 words is great along with ppl only read headlines

[brazen hemlock]

It's not ruined as a game, but as a product pro consumer, it's pretty awful

[carmine raven]

Same

[abstract fiber]

i fail to see any maliciousness here

[potent bluff]

12% of russian ppl holding crytocurrency

[abstract fiber]

like it's not even microtransactions...

[brazen hemlock]

Did you see what happen with Stan Lee Twitter account? We are reaching disgusting times...

[abstract fiber]

nah

[potent bluff]

so im not surprised if sergiy has one

[zealous jungle]

Doesn’t mean the game is bad but I simply don’t want to support any form of NFTs bc they go against my moral compass

[abstract fiber]

what happened?

[abstract fiber]

then don't buy them. don't invest in NFTs. if you stuck to that moral compass you'd not be able to buy half the games on the market.

[humble pivot]

NFTs are neutral, it's about what people choose to do with that tech

[carmine raven]

NFT are like wee wee ass hearcut

[abstract fiber]

LOL

yeah what he said

[brazen hemlock]

Cryptocurrency whatever, but outside gaming, gaming should be art, not shi*** casinos

[zealous jungle]

And? So be it

[carmine raven]

It not bad but..... Kinda feels sad

[abstract fiber]

my point is that as implemented, it's even less intrusive and obvious than something like CSGO's knife skins

[zealous jungle]

Csgo skins don’t work with a blockchain, that’s the whole point here

[brazen hemlock]

My problem is not with the game, it's that is a precedent for other companies, the green light to do whatever they want...

[abstract fiber]

exactly, blockchains in this format are gimmicks and have no permanency because there are more efficient methods to run unique item ownership

[waxen oak]

Ubisoft is doing it with Ghost Recon, and its gone pretty bad for them.

[abstract fiber]

this isn't somehow going to 'plague' the game and ruin it because it's a fast-burning trend

[brazen hemlock]

Yeap, I complained there too

Or we stop that, or in 2-3 years we are full of NFTs in AAA ganes

[abstract fiber]

literally who cares if some bum somewhere has a code that confirms he's the "real owner" of the shmuck you just filled with buckshot in your game? it makes no difference to anyone or anything

[waxen oak]

As long as theres a market, they'll keep doing it

[abstract fiber]

now if i'm wrong and somehow the game is always online because it's constantly tracking the NFT objects (which isn't how it works to my knowledge), that's a huge issue

[brazen hemlock]

I don't have any faith in humanity xD

[zealous jungle]

I think we are on the same page, the idea of having the face of someone as an npc is pretty cool but just don’t sell it over smth that uses that much energy. Different things could be sold by normal item shops we had for the longest time

[abstract fiber]

precisely, i just don't think it's as big of an issue

[carmine raven]

The biggerst thing that we dont want nft is if it gets in thr game, via npc then it is possible to dev to add unique weapons as nft

[waxen oak]

If anything can be exploited it will

[abstract fiber]

i don't really get the energy concerns, especially since the entire western world could go back to living in the stone age and india and china alone would still destroy the world's climate by current projections, but they're really screwing with the gpu market

now that is a tangible issue, lol

[humble pivot]

I don't get that energy consumption criticism though. Steam also has massive servers to host their marketplace that use up the energy equivalent to a small country

[brazen hemlock]

Not the same tho

[waxen oak]

I just think NFTs are a ponzi scheme lol

[keen shale]

damn man...

[abstract fiber]

most likely answer

[hazy helm]

The problem is that steam manages and trickles items in while open blockchain are flooded with idjits who think art is awful drawings,this happens 5000 times a second and repeats for days

[keen shale]

i worry for the story too. nft criticisms aside, wtf is the purpose of the ward faction if duty and the military exist?

[abstract fiber]

yeah they seem redundant, idk

[brazen hemlock]

And that's a pity, but it's just how humans are...

[abstract fiber]

not that the military were exactly busting their asses to track down bandits... and duty, well...

[zealous jungle]

It’s just additional oil we poor into the fire, even worse that is completely not necessary

[keen shale]

is the ward supposed to be some hybrid between duty freedom and the military?

[abstract fiber]

maybe the guys who founded ward got sick and tired of getting their shins gnawed off just trying to get into rostok

some job duty was doing! "if you want it done right, do it yourself"

[carmine raven]

Guys big question : if kim jung un buys tjat nft can kim jung un come out as npc in game?

[abstract fiber]

yes

[humble pivot]

And also we are complaining about NFT energy consumption on our computers and phones for which the Earth has been raped ten times over, so to me it seems a bit hypocritical

[abstract fiber]

agreed, just think it's the weakest part of the argument personally

[hazy helm]

Basically

[brazen hemlock]

Crypto world uses carbon, not the same

[keen shale]

maybe the ward is a more liberal version of duty. they accept the zone for what it is, yet still feel the desire to protect those in it? do they handle disputes? i heard they are supposed to act as a police force, yet it seems pointless because why would factions even want the ward meddling in their business?

[humble pivot]

You're just saying because you need to disagree

[abstract fiber]

look on the bright side bois, we'll get to play stalker 2 and our great-great grandchildren will be the ones (supposedly) fighting and dying over the last strips of arable land

[brazen hemlock]

Carbon increases the temperature of the planet, it's legit criticism

[abstract fiber]

aint our problem, yeehaw

[carmine raven]

The big thing is who is going to host a node for that nft?

[abstract fiber]

NOT the devs, which is why the 'detracting from game dev time' thing is silly

[carmine raven]

If there isno node its gone

[hazy helm]

I hope they aren't just a morag bal

[zealous jungle]

More on the strong side for me but anyway, it’s just very very poor decision making and even if it’s just a short time trend the damage is still be done

[keen shale]

@hazy helmi dont see the purpose of the ward personally

though not much is really known about them

[abstract fiber]

in the game magazine article that's literally what it said they were

[keen shale]

what a shame

[twilit flower]

crypto doesn't exclusively use fossil fuel generated electricity. renewables are in there too

[abstract fiber]

they almost seem more like a mixture between duty and clear sky

[hazy helm]

You can still criticise what was shown

[keen shale]

true

[abstract fiber]

they want to protect the zone from exploitation while also preserving it for research

[twilit flower]

as long as the electricity is cheap enough crpto doesn't care

[keen shale]

@abstract fibersounds exactly like freedom

[hazy helm]

CS,best faction from the best game obviously

[abstract fiber]

so yeah clear sky would be redundant with ward in game now, you can probably cross their return off

real sad, was hoping they might show up

[twilit flower]

but the answer to climate change and pollution isn't to throw the hands in the air and crank the pollution up to the max

[zealous jungle]

So hybrid faction does sound right

[keen shale]

perhaps the ward is an offshoot of clear sky???

[hazy helm]

They already are how you gonna work as a faction if u dead

[zealous jungle]

It isn’t!???

[abstract fiber]

[keen shale]

personally i think more warlord factions would have been more interesting over the ward based on what we know now

[twilit flower]

controversial I know, lmao

[abstract fiber]

bruh everyone knows the earth is just being a little sissy and needs to get over itself

[waxen oak]

Do you think they will add the Bored Apes to run around the NPP? The new chimeras except they are literally jpegs

[hazy helm]

With mods

[abstract fiber]

no, they will add the entombed corpse of the NPP worker who got trapped inside during the first disaster and you can buy his bones as NFTs

[zealous jungle]

So you are saying all the governments do exactly the opposite of what we actually should do? cries

[keen shale]

add a crypto-bro faction to the game

[waxen oak]

They immediately crumb to dust after you acquire them (the market crashed)

[abstract fiber]

LMAO

[keen shale]

their end goal is to replace the roubles in the zone with crypto

[zealous jungle]

Lol

Good one

[abstract fiber]

guys sidorovich is trying to get me to exchange my roubles for ZoneCoin, what do i do

[keen shale]

fr tho i dont see how the ward would fit into the current lore

@zealous jungle ty

[hazy helm]

Depends with what HoC is tryna do

Really

[waxen oak]

We all remember encountering our first Lazy Lion in the Agroprom underground

[hazy helm]

Maybe they doing CS2.0,I'm all for it

[twilit flower]

well they do realise that losing their land from rising water levels and some of their population to pollutants does hurt the bottom line in the long run. I think there have been some improvements made already, for sure. lot's of potential to improve (especially when it comes to actually having a positive impact and not just publicity stunts)

[keen shale]

@hazy helm i agree. but again if we know factions like freedom and duty are making a return, the ward sounds a hell of a lot like freedom based on what we know now

[carmine raven]

What we wanted from devs was good graphics stalker and what we got was some wee wee ass nft we dont know that well

[long harbor]

no clear sky in stalker 2??

[abstract fiber]

well from our understanding of the factions' positions as of the last game it makes no sense, but it has been 10 years; the game is going to take place in 2022, soooo

a LOT could've changed and the formation of ward will likely make perfect sense

[hazy helm]

Only time will tell and we have a lot of it to dread the answers

[waxen oak]

Wait 2022? Oh no dont tell me I'm gonna come across a stalker doing a tik tok dance.