⭐┃nospoilers_general

[dire dagger]

be it radeons were faster in this era

[vernal magnet]

lol yea remember when it was ATI

the drivers were trash even back then

except the holy 9800 pro

what a classic card

[dire dagger]

9800 xt was the fast card in the world for the time

And in 2009 the 5970

Was kicking ass

[vernal magnet]

ill never forget that HL2 launch. i think i just want to feel that way again with S2

that feeling when you know your playing magic for the first time y'know?

[dire dagger]

Hl2 was the x850 xt

And the 6800 ultra

[vernal magnet]

i was running a geforce mx something back then

its in my closet with a stack of cards

and my sound blasters EAX baby

[dire dagger]

I can’t remember it personally

I was busy being like 2 years old

But hey I can remember now

[vernal magnet]

im ancient in PC gamer years

[dire dagger]

Ready for a flash back

[vernal magnet]

Blyatiful

[dire dagger]

You should remember this then

You know what that is don’t you

[vernal magnet]

looks like an ATI Radeon something. the dual fan and that many memory chips is probably a 90 card

[dire dagger]

It’s not from ati or nvidia

[vernal magnet]

Voodoo?

[dire dagger]

Yes

The last voodoo

[vernal magnet]

i had 2 of those for Turok dinosaur hunter

beasts

[dire dagger]

Oh your that guy I talked to before

Bruh I knew it

[vernal magnet]

ah its you

my man

[dire dagger]

I had a feeling

I nearly have every voodoo 3 now

[vernal magnet]

i recall your collection was ridiculous

[dire dagger]

Only missing one

The v3 3000

[vernal magnet]

what were you running in the SOC days?

[dire dagger]

It’s grown since

Rtx 3090

[vernal magnet]

lmao legend

[dire dagger]

Like using old hardware for dx10 is just ehhhhh

[vernal magnet]

could you imagine going back to GSC circa 07 and be like "check this s**t out" just drop a 3090 and dissapear

[dire dagger]

Dx10 bad

[vernal magnet]

single handedly set Stalker 2 ahead by 10 years

[dire dagger]

Well it would be unrealizable

Unplayable*

[vernal magnet]

it would be reverse engineered

[dire dagger]

A game for the future

[vernal magnet]

it would be like the terminator 2 arm

[dire dagger]

You could do the same go back to 1998 give 3dfx a voodoo 5

And be like have fun lads

Vsa 100 and the voodoo 5 come out early 99 like originally planned

And the 6000 drops in 2000

[vernal magnet]

funny, even back then it was all about cutting edge hardware for Unreal Engine

[dire dagger]

Aye

[vernal magnet]

here we are gearing up for UW5

UE5*

[dire dagger]

Aye yes

If only glide stood the test of time haha

[vernal magnet]

people forget unreal engine referred to Unreal the game hahaha

[dire dagger]

It would probably still be around if it kept market share

[dire dagger]

I remember

[vernal magnet]

we are the ancient ones

the forerunners

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/3dfx-logo-3dfx-logo-glide-gif-17359201

Those who remember the fallen king

[vernal magnet]

[dire dagger]

We can thank them for getting us here

Cus the nv1 sure as hell didn’t

[vernal magnet]

Goteem

[dire dagger]

I kinda want an nv1 jsut to be like wow first nvidia card but

It’s jsut so terrible

Compared to the first voodoo it’s a complete joke

Anyway

Stalker 2

I wonder if it’s gonna launch with direct storage

[vernal magnet]

i think so

April is reasonable timeframe

[dire dagger]

Aye

[vernal magnet]

im on Win11 and we just got a nice massive KB package today

64 fixes for gaming and AMD related drops

[dire dagger]

I’m using intel

[vernal magnet]

im on a 9900k

[dire dagger]

Good lad

Solid chip

[vernal magnet]

she takes the 5ghz boost very well

[dire dagger]

Alder look might be chad though

Mine did 5.2ghz

[vernal magnet]

im a Noctua dude. and yea Alderlake is looking mega chad

im going out of my way to make sure i dont kill anything before the game launches lol

[dire dagger]

Fair

They say alder lake beats 5950x

With out overclocking the low power cores

[vernal magnet]

i believe it. im more curious what AMD's planned answer to it in 22 is

its spicey right now and i love it

[dire dagger]

Yah I hope they try and get more speed out of the same 16 cores or go to 20

[vernal magnet]

CPU space is fired up i wish GPU's were as competitive.

[dire dagger]

3dfx we need you

But yah

Radeons are lame now

Radeons use to be kinda dope

@vernal magnet why you think more then half my collection is Radeon

[vernal magnet]

the good ole days

[dire dagger]

Yah

But the gtx 295 is very cool

Easily my coolest card over then voodoo 5

It is pretty awesome at playing cop

[vernal magnet]

those dual gpu cards were furnaces. i had a 9800gx2 that was like that before the hot days of Fermi

[dire dagger]

I want one of them

I had a 7950gx2 but due to the moronic way nvidia made it

It died

[vernal magnet]

yea my gx2 started artifacting

[dire dagger]

It’s why I’m never running the 295 again

It’s just going in it’s box

And sitting there to look beautiful

[harsh olive]

How do i find the collectors edition of stalker 2 for pc?

[tired anvil]

#🖤┃s2-pre-order

[harsh olive]

is there one for the us yet?

[chilly prawn]

No

[wispy pier]

ey dats pretty swag

[finite dragon]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S VETERANS AND OTHERS JOIN THE DUTY RANKS AND RID THE ZONE OF THE ANARCHIST SCUM

[silver fern]

😐

[weak valve]

Yea

[earnest urchin]

the way the PC component prices are going here atm i am gonna afford to run STALKER 2 in not 5 years but 7-8 years. gg.

[opaque parrot]

World's gone to s...

[long harbor]

Monolith on the top floor and zombies are at the floor right under them.

[opaque parrot]

The global economy became so fragile it could collapse any moment completely

[long harbor]

Decided to do nothing cause I'm the one who has to clean their mess.

[wispy pier]

yes it is

/amogus

[tulip monolith]

amd gpus are way too cheaper

[long harbor]

I finished COP.

And now I feel bad for letting Vano and Zulu died after watching the cutscenes.

[wispy pier]

wait you left them die?

mate what the hell

[finite dragon]

amogus

[pseudo yoke]

I am glad I have a PC that can run Stalker 2

[jolly basalt]

i'm planning on getting the huge ult collection & don't even have a pc that could run it

[tall swallow]

might as well

it’s such a good collection

i’m tempted to get it myself

gsc knows what we want

that collection really is good stuff

even better if it came with a PDA

[jolly basalt]

legitimately just plan on opening it once to look at & to redeem the codes, and then immediately putting everything away for safety

[tall swallow]

smart stuff

i legit want that bag

it looks nice enough for everyday use

[jolly basalt]

if there's a single scratch on any of the things i think the monolith itself will sprout limbs & come beat me because of it

the bag looks sick but i'd be worried about theft

[tall swallow]

well i’m a bandit so

i wish someone would

all it takes is one good cheeki breeki and it’s over 😋

it’s my hope that some of the original actors make a return

they did such a good job on the last games to make me feel immersed

i know they’ll crush it again

[jolly basalt]

"ey bratan, you could have backpack, or you could have sawn-off discharged into skull "

i'd love to have the oldschool VAs come back but i remember hearing the dude that did (i think) the bandit lines wasn't coming back for them

may've been a different voice, but i'm almost certain it was bandit

[tall swallow]

i know who

he did the voices of bourbon and pavel in metro

i wonder why though

[jolly basalt]

could be a thousand reasons tbf. especially cause of the passage of time

could have a different job altogether

[tall swallow]

true

honestly i’m not worried about the quality of voice acting this time around thanks to that trailer, but how much you wanna bet people are gonna complains about not having cheeki breeki? 😂

[jolly basalt]

i'll be disgruntled, because of nostalgia, but overall i think i'd be happier if the acting was more professional / serious sounding lol

hearing the same guy voice literal hundreds of twin bandits is only funny for so many playthroughs

[tall swallow]

it’s especially make sense given the tonal shift of this sequel

[jolly basalt]

i will legitimately be upset if there's no Clear Sky content, though.

[tall swallow]

i’d actually be surprised if i did hear it

[jolly basalt]

i may be freedom, but CS is my absolute favorite game & faction

[tall swallow]

respect

i have been and always will be a bandit

every time

it’s just too fun 🤩

[jolly basalt]

i'm only marked as Freedom on this server 'cuz it makes some folk upset, plus Freedom has the best radio.

CS radio is a close second, Loner is third place.

[tall swallow]

[jolly basalt]

bandit radio is alright but i've grown desensitized to it, far too many memes using that audio

[tall swallow]

i look past the memes

[jolly basalt]

honestly that's the best way to go about anything stalker related

otherwise the entire series is "omegalul cheeki breeki amirite fello russians haha i swear im russian guys i swear i swear i swear"

'least that's how i view most of the community & memes

[tall swallow]

it’s pretty bs and not really indicative of what the games even about

i actually got mad at one point before buying the game i kept trying to ask about it in different places

nothing but cheeki breeki

everywhere

so i finally said screw it and got em

[jolly basalt]

legit. i ain't gonna be one of the weirdos that claims Stalker is life-changing in any way, but it definitely widened my perspective of just how well some games can nail the atmosphere, and the feeling of actually being in the world.

which is ironic, given the fact all i knew before playing the games was "haha hardbass"

[tall swallow]

i mean i love hardbass as much as the next guy but i mean

i can’t help but blast vodovorot whenever i’m driving

but here’s my thing about the hardbass memes

a lot of people don’t even know who made the songs

which is stupid

which led me to finding out **even more ** russian music

[jolly basalt]

i never looked into those hardbass songs too much, in all honesty. too much "noise" i guess is the best way i can describe my opinion of it all.

though i do listen to a bit of other russian music now.

[tall swallow]

ironically enough, i like russian rap

not because i’m black, but a lot of it i identify with

[jolly basalt]

russian rap's sick. unfortunately doesn't to seem to be much of it out there, at least the stuff i'm into.

[tall swallow]

it be like that, stalker

anyway

i wonder what kinds of weapons will be in the sequel

[jolly basalt]

anyway if i don't see Strelok's buttcheeks in 8K-UHD i'll uninstall

[quick dune]

i want double barrel

[jolly basalt]

i think the Hunting Rifle is confirmed in one of the teasers.

i'd like some sort of revolver. bad ammo counts but i love the feeling of those guns.

give me a micro uzi so i can yell out "west side" in pripyat

land maybe seven shots & then get nailed by some shotgun immediately after

[lusty olive]

Multiplayer there will be a coop support you think ?

[tall swallow]

you think that uzi is gonna be in good condition? 😂

[jolly basalt]

nothing official afaik but i'd say coop is unlikely. though modders may add that themselves, given the support is great enough.

[tall swallow]

how cool would that be though

yeah cause a lot of people are playing stalkerZ on dayz currently like it’s no tomorrow

[jolly basalt]

any gun can be in good enough condition if you have enough vodka & rubles with you

or hryvnia. no idea which currency stalker uses.

[tired anvil]

It's going to use Coupons in S2

[jolly basalt]

just gonna carry a buncha food-joint 3$-off coupons

[tired anvil]

I'm not joking either, idk how it'll work but they mentioned coupons

If it's like notes then I don't see why not Hryvnias, but maybe there will be a lore related reason for it

[jolly basalt]

wonder how that'll work lol. sounds really random

[tired anvil]

Rubles are almost completely notes, so the same way as now maybe

[jolly basalt]

hope there's some kinda late-game stuff to hunt for in S2. i can't really recall much like that in the original trilogy

[tired anvil]

Gauss Rifle

[jolly basalt]

'cept for maybe exosuits, but those're trash anyway imo

genuinely hoping the gauss rifle is actually fun to use in S2, while on that topic.

i'd rather just spam pistol rounds than use the gauss rifle

not saying it's bad though, just not very interesting given how much damage it pumps out.

[vague steeple]

[worn nacelle]

Word

[jolly basalt]

i heard my phone buzz and panicked thinking US orders were here

[vernal magnet]

Interesting. Maybe incentives for faction alliance or support?

[tired anvil]

Doubt it

[finite dragon]

gonna need a no women mod real quick when 2 comes out, didnt see any in trailer tho

[finite dragon]

How do y'all know there's going to be women in Stalker?

[silver fern]

[jolly basalt]

it's just rumours afaik

[long harbor]

Googled it.

[robust mountain]

I found on google that pee is stored in the balls

is it true?

[pseudo yoke]

One article with no source doesn't mean it's real

[dense breach]

e

[sage pollen]

What if amongus x s.t.a.l.k.e.r merch

[open lintel]

👀

[finite dragon]

no

[spring fossil]

What's the issue with women in the Zone?

[worn meteor]

women do not exist in universe of Stalker

[spring fossil]

Ah yes I forgot men shared self reproductive DNA with snails, boons of the Zone.

[worn meteor]

New people are born in Sidorovich's basement

[half glade]

women do not belong in the zone

[wispy pier]

are you being sexist rn

[half glade]

yes. yes i am

[finite dragon]

he's probably one

[half glade]

I camt be sexist I am gay

[wispy pier]

:oof:

[finite dragon]

fat

[half glade]

NOOOOOO

[pseudo rivet]

Welcome back, rat coom

[half glade]

Came back to rob some more stalkers

[golden river]

[long harbor]

women do not belong in the zone

It's weird seeing women in the Zone.

Years of staying in the zone without any women and suddenly you see some women.

Then you have to shoot them.

[gaunt island]

For me it’s because there’s a difference between diversity and forced diversity. If it’s painfully obvious they added women just to appease feminists it’ll take me out of the game. Just like how the new God of War turned an ancient Nordic goddess into a young black African girl. It just takes you right out of the experience.

There’s also the fact that the zone is dangerous and a war zone. And in every place on earth that’s super dangerous and a war zone there are literally no women. As I’ve said before there were no women in Normandy, none in Vietnam, and even to this day in almost every country on the planet women can join the military but cannot serve in combat roles.

[long harbor]

Wow, gave me an idea for an eye-catching article about how Stalker is exist.

[gaunt island]

Also let’s take the closest real life example we can get to the Stalker setting, the current civil war in Ukraine. Do you see ANY women on the front lines of that conflict? No, you don’t.

[long harbor]

Finally finish downloading CS, spent all evening trying to cool down my laptop.

[long harbor]

99,99% of soldiers are men.

[gaunt island]

You better watch out, you might get cancelled for saying that.

[long harbor]

I'm gonna cancel myself real quick.

[gaunt island]

Lol

[half glade]

In stalker reddit there was a god damn meltdown because of that

Indeed

[finite dragon]

he makes a video about stalker anomaly for 26 minutes while his other videos is like 5-8 minutes

[vagrant folio]

Well, around 20% of the Ukrainian military are women. So it would really make sense to have some women in the zone. I don't see the reason why they wouldn't be there

[pseudo rivet]

They're all illusions in the lore

[half glade]

No women in the zone

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly, imagine them coming to the Zone for real

Then we'd have a Scarlet Flower problem on our hands

[tired anvil]

It's less than 20%

It's like 10-15

[vagrant folio]

No

23% are women according to the Ukrainian ministry of defence

[open lintel]

probably wasn't that high back when the zone takes place tho right?

[vagrant folio]

Yeah that could be

[half glade]

Ofc a freedom member says it

[vagrant folio]

But honestly I think people are desperate enough to get into the zone regardless of gender xD

[half glade]

Too much weed lad lay some off

[vagrant folio]

But muh weed :(

[tired anvil]

When the game takes place Ukraine barely had a military in the first place

[open lintel]

sounds like bandit trying to steal weed

[vagrant folio]

Killing duty without being high is just not the same

[tired anvil]

They only started building up after the controversial event of 2014

[half glade]

Na bro I got standarts I dont steal weed only money

[tired anvil]

Because before that they thought that'd they be fine without a military

[tired anvil]

Steal money to buy weed, it's gonna be legal here in a year anyway

[open lintel]

ah i c, ty gaj, I don't know much of anything about their military, neither now or back then

[half glade]

NOOOOOO NEVER MEVER LEGAL NO NO NEEEEEE

[tired anvil]

Only thing that's left is Mr. Nose Ėda's signature

[half glade]

I will rip his tiny sack off if he does

Nausėda my ass

[vagrant folio]

Yeah oops I kinda started part of that lmao

[half glade]

I can see that by ur pfp

[vagrant folio]

It's a nice pfp isn't it :>

[half glade]

No

[vagrant folio]

Oki

[half glade]

[vagrant folio]

[half glade]

@tired anvil honeyyyy change my name back to Strelok simp thanks ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[tired anvil]

It's not fair, you get to simp for him without being gay

[half glade]

[pseudo rivet]

X tbh

[half glade]

I am indeed superior

[pseudo rivet]

Same

[half glade]

I am literally above and beyond god

[pseudo rivet]

X tbh

[half glade]

Literally fight me

[pseudo rivet]

Okay

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/611699079420051487/899738857929572362/Void.gif

[half glade]

Finally a worth oponent our battle will be legendery

[gaunt island]

Yeah women serve in support roles meaning they take up space on the entire other side of the country. Women do not serve in combat roles. Seriously watch any video on the frontlines of the civil war and show me where the women are.

[vagrant folio]

It's defo more men. No reason to not have women in the game tho

[quick dune]

no reason to have women in the game

everyone hates them

unrealistic and boring

[vagrant folio]

Why not have them?

[pseudo yoke]

I agree @quick dune

[quick dune]

cheap shot for the devs to even consider them

[half glade]

WOMEN ARE CRINGE

[vagrant folio]

Ah right

True gamer™ moment

[quick dune]

all the new games include women like it was something common to see for example in ww2

[pseudo yoke]

Women should not be in the Zone because there were no female Stalkers in Roadside Picnic

[quick dune]

and the amount of degeneracy to be happening when they get implemented is infinite

[vagrant folio]

What do women have to do with degeneracy?

You just have a few new models and voices and there ya go

[pseudo yoke]

No thanks

[vagrant folio]

Nothing about the game has changed

[quick dune]

men

[pseudo yoke]

there will be a day one mod to remove them and it'll be great

[quick dune]

not women you dingus

[vagrant folio]

I don't get what you're saying

[quick dune]

do you get that men are degenerates that will call the women 'babes' and make stories about their 'adventures' not exactly SFW adventures if u get what im saying

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly, let me end this thing with four words

Scarlet Flower and illusions

[vagrant folio]

I do get what you're saying yes. They could write stories like that now if they wanted to. There prolly already are some

[quick dune]

i don't want no monki brains going out to buy game because brain activates when woman is in game

[vagrant folio]

Stalker is so incredibly loosely connected to roadside picnic that's not even an argument

[pseudo yoke]

Ok

[quick dune]

women in zones that are strictly secret isn't very realistic

[vagrant folio]

Just add women I don't see the problem

[pseudo yoke]

Women shouldnt be in stalker 2 because theyre weaker and incapable of lasting for a long time in adverse conditions

[vagrant folio]

[ashen axle]

Jaluuga#3977 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[quick dune]

rip bozo

[vagrant folio]

Bruh

[pseudo yoke]

rekt

[quick dune]

🤏

[half glade]

Liberal rekt

[pseudo rivet]

Honestly, let me end this thing with four words
Scarlet Flower and illusions

[half glade]

[pseudo yoke]

I remember women complaining about having to live in the woods when I was in the army, that was funny

[vagrant folio]

And now you're pulling out the anecdotes

Atleast try to hide your sexism

[pseudo yoke]

No

I don't think I will

[pseudo rivet]

If this continues, I'll just mute

Read up on the lore and you'll understand

[half glade]

WOOOOOO bring down HELL

[quick dune]

if they add women i swear to strelok i will presonally go out of my way to kill every single woman in the zone

[pseudo rivet]

-mute @quick dune

[vagrant folio]

I'm going to hell anyways. Can't wait

[iron heath]

Auttaja

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Oct 23, 2021, 1:57 PM

[pseudo rivet]

Sorry El Jefe

But it B wat it B

[vagrant folio]

Rip

[pseudo yoke]

Dang you really did jef like that

[pseudo rivet]

Sadly

[half glade]

Jeffmynuts

[pseudo rivet]

[half glade]

Janny moment

[pseudo rivet]

Typical janny momento

[pseudo yoke]

Its okay @quick dune

You will be avenged on Apr 22, 2022

[half glade]

I will say something very contraversial

N

I

Happy ending

[limpid ruin]

Have retail physical pre orders in the us still now come out

[tired anvil]

No

[half glade]

Literally quiet down western spy

[limpid ruin]

That’s what I was doing, my question was more rhetorical and a complaint more than it was a serious question since they obviously haven’t

[half glade]

Go cry somewhere else

[tired anvil]

Too many people still ask basic crap about the game, so your question didn't even seem like a complaint at this point

"will it have subtitles" yes mf check the website for once

PMm

[half glade]

PMM

Swedish ak is the best its crap to fire crap to use crap to carry absolute beauty

Yes

based

[wispy pier]

i dont mind whamen in video games..

[half glade]

Literally no one asked

Geyjunas what happened to baltic chat btw

[pseudo yoke]

Probably the same thing that happened to Polish

[finite dragon]

The Zone requires physical strength of those who enter it. Men are naturally stronger than women in that sense. Not that there couldn’t be a single woman but certainly not a 50/50 ratio. And how much would it ruin immersion if you had women screaming against you or on your side during a gunfight.

UWU Anu-cheeki breeki ivdamke

Like HELL no

[quick dune]

hm

guess who's back

back again

[half glade]

jeffmynuts

[half glade]

only inteligent ones can say that zone is not for women

woman moment

hell yeah START DRAMA

i love sexim

🍅

[finite dragon]

🍅

[tired anvil]

According to me

[half glade]

yes

[pseudo rivet]

Get kek'd

[tired anvil]

All of y'all should shut up

[pseudo rivet]

Alright, show's over

[half glade]

noooo huneyyyy nooo

awww man it was fun

[pseudo rivet]

Our server members?

Lmao

[half glade]

janny moment

[pseudo rivet]

Shush

[tired anvil]

Janny moment

[half glade]

[quaint socket]

woAH

[normal forge]

Can I have some tea

[pseudo rivet]

Sure, tea coming up

[tired anvil]

Not like I'm stopping you

[pseudo rivet]

🤮
🍵

[normal forge]

🙏

Stalker tea well served

[pseudo rivet]

Enjoy

[normal forge]

😋

[tired anvil]

You did it yourself btw

[half glade]

woman moment

[tired anvil]

One of the most fun topics to discuss in here ngl

[half glade]

lets discus strelok

[wispy pier]

buff whamen exist

[finite dragon]

Pretty rare

[flint blade]

Who cares

I just hope the game is good

[normal forge]

Is this even discussed in the ru or ua channels lol

[tired anvil]

I've seen it a bit though I don't check it often so idk

[pseudo yoke]

I wish the Zone as portrayed was real

[spring fossil]

I mean there are currently women working and living in the exclusion Zone alongside, so short of the misogynistic stereotypes of men and this incorrect perception of biologically superior at survival to women, they should be in STALKER 2.

[pseudo rivet]

Not this again

Plenty of people got muted about the topic earlier today

Might not want to bring it up

[spring fossil]

Ah OK, just catching up with the reading, so replied as I could see. Say no more.

[pseudo rivet]

Thanks bro

[quick dune]

i think having stalkers in stalker is a good idea

anyone agree with me?

[pseudo rivet]

Agreed

[pseudo yoke]

Be quiet

[finite dragon]

pictures are allowed...
FINALLY I HAVE A REASON TO TALK HERE

[hybrid dagger]

Hi

[normal forge]

Bye

[vernal magnet]

the zone is no place for women. Men and women arent the same. and philisophically and ideologically they have very little reason to even care about the zone. The extent of women in the zone making sense ends with Nichaz and scientific factions. The whole point of men being driven into the zone is to make money off artifacts to be able to become providers where they struggled to do so on the outside. Women are not typically primary providers, they are nurturers. You dont see Kids in the zone for many philisophical reasons as well. Most of the factions are also military based. They dont run with Females typically. Remember this isnt America, this is the zone, leave the woke politics at the door. How many Eastern Slavic spetz forces running around with females, you dont. The zone is largely a military operations area. Same reason theres no females in Escape From Tarkov. i would wholeheartedly expect the intro of Stalker 2 before going into the zone and getting the zone pass from Nichaz could show females around the facility quite easily. Anything beyond that is simply not believable and an immersion breaker. We already see in real life that women and men choose very different jobs based on their physical capabilities and mental drives and desires. Even thought people make the argument that PDF materials reference women in the zone, the games never presented them in the zone either. This would make Stalker 2 feel like a totally different and separate universe from the original trilogy and that is not ok.

[delicate sparrow]

i'd like to see one or two females integrated into large groups, i don't think it would change much in the way of believability and it adds a little flavor.

surely some would come for the same reasons as any other stalker, but never alone.

[half glade]

No

[vernal magnet]

It just is the way it is. Presenting female loners, fredomers, and dutyers is a major issue. All of a sudden you cant ignore human drive and now you will have all kinds of bizarrely out of place social scenarios with people in the zone. No longer do we have our Hellish landscape. Its just another social bop. Absolute trash

it becomes Fallout. and with what Fallout has become. it would be T R A S H

[flint blade]

Import the femboys

[spring fossil]

You know Fallout 1&2, two very dark games had females in right? Your long philosophical argument of provider's and nurturing is old hat right? Same with these "base biological needs" to commit heinous crimes against them, as if men aren't also targets of the same things.

Especially seeing as both genders live and work in the Zone. The whole "the lore never showed women existing" is also a crapshoot. I personally don't care if they're added or not, it makes no odds to me, but this Discord is showing a strangely hostile view to other genders being portrayed in the game.

[flint blade]

Like I said I just hope the game is good

And the pre-order comes to the US soon

[spring fossil]

I need that physical Ultimate Edition in the UK

[fair crater]

another day without stalker 2

hope they consider a vr dlc doe

[half glade]

ah ur briish explains a lot

[glad temple]

Same

[fair crater]

delivery man by day, blud suker's food by night

[glad temple]

You’d need an ultra beefy pc to get good fps tho

Like, one that doesn’t exist yet, which sucks

I’d love to play it on my index

[fair crater]

if there is , i will def slave my ass off to be able to afford that

[glad temple]

I’m sure in a few years time we’ll get powerful enough computers to do it

Plus, ue5 has built in vr support, so as long as they don’t extensively use lumen and it’s replaceable because it doesn’t work on vr, I could probably try my hardest to mod it in

Saving up for the valve deckard, which is the code name for their new vr hmd that’s got it’s own powerful processor for split rendering between the pc and headset

Which equals even better vr performance

So I hope some day I will be able to properly run stalker 2 in vr

We need more quality games on the medium

[vernal magnet]

Fallout 1 and 2 served the story to have men and women. It was the post apocalypse. Stalker is not. My points stand and remain. I also don’t want my tomb raider games to be gender flipped. I want female Laura Croft. Because that’s the way those stories are formulated. There’s a reason stalker is very realistic and raw

[tired anvil]

(SoC was going to have females btw)

[vernal magnet]

It’s not hostility towards females, it’s hostility towards in-authentic decisions that affect the games universe. Some people take these games seriously and don’t want it’s history and legacy to be soiled. Certain things stand way out in this universe of stalker. And this is one of them and that’s why it’s a hot button topic

[vernal magnet]

And it would have been a different game. Stalker is not going to benefit from half life 2 esque retconning.

They cut a lot of content for many reasons

[tired anvil]

You know the reason females got cut?

[vernal magnet]

Stalker would also suck with vehicles. Doesn’t mean I don’t like vehicles

Yea there were many reasons but time restraint and tech was the de facto

[tired anvil]

Money and time were pretty much the only ones

But yea

[vernal magnet]

Like I said, it would have been a different game and we may not have gotten as compelling and realistic of a product

[tired anvil]

I'm personally of the view that I don't give a damn if it has them or not

[vernal magnet]

Could have just been fallout 76

Also the source reference materials, (79 stalker film, roadside picnic) both held to this original philosophy

You didn’t see women having the dealings redrick was in the bar, you don’t see women in the coal mines. Some things are the way they are for nuanced reasons. And that’s the line of realism creators dance on

[glad temple]

Even if the zone is far more populated with men, I would realistically expect there to be at least one or two women in it

There are no philosophical implications, some people are just built different

[vernal magnet]

Sure. But prevalent amongst factions is a no no

[tired anvil]

Leska

Lore nerds will know that females are technically canon

[vernal magnet]

Leftover PDA entries

[tired anvil]

Not even

More like NPC dialogue

[vernal magnet]

Leftover dialogue

[tired anvil]

Not leftover if it's a single NPC

Can't win this one Tommy, it's meant to be part of the lore

[glad temple]

I could definitely imagine someone like Anna being in the zone

[vernal magnet]

Not prevalent though. We established anomalies exist. A small handful of women amongst a few thousand zone members is understandable. Ranked amongst military factions? Criiiiiiiiinge

[vernal magnet]

Exactly

[tired anvil]

Too bad peak Zone population was ~300

[vernal magnet]

Zone pop swings. Many people died

[tired anvil]

Good luck getting thousands

[vernal magnet]

The original rush was substantial

[tired anvil]

Peak was before all the deaths of the faction wars too

[vernal magnet]

It’s up for debate. I’ve killed quite a lot of people in these games

[glad temple]

That’d be even more realistic actually

[tired anvil]

Hence the peak was just barely before all of it

[glad temple]

There are plenty of high ranking women in many militaries

[vernal magnet]

And now there’s new factions in stalker 2? Easy pop swing

[glad temple]

Obviously though like I said, not as common

[tired anvil]

At least one new faction, yea

[vernal magnet]

Expect stalker 2 to retcon a bunch. It’s inevitable

64km needs people to fill it up

[glad temple]

Problem with having so much lore is that there will inevitably have some retconning

[vernal magnet]

Bingo

[tired anvil]

64km without including the undergrounds iirc

[glad temple]

Incredibly hard to be consistent with so much on the table

[vernal magnet]

Point being there’s no way 300 was the zone cap of the time, regardless, everything is going to change now. It’s been years with this new story

And I’m not counting mutants that were once stalkers

Zone pop always changed. Rookies always showing up

[glad temple]

I would think after the shutting off of the brain scorchers would cause a massive spike in stalkers

Or at least gain more popularity over time

So yeah I expect far far more people

[vernal magnet]

It sure was a lot of people rushing the center in clear sky alone. That final skirmish lasted quite a bit

[vernal magnet]

Your high ranking officials aren’t in the zone boots on the ground.

[glad temple]

True, but that means it’s about the same ratio for lower ranking people

[vernal magnet]

It’s not though

[finite dragon]

One of the things I wondered before was exactly how did Skadovsk and Yanov got so populated in just few months, gold rush in the Center must've been really insane

[vernal magnet]

Good point

[glad temple]

It can’t be less, that’d logically not make sense

[finite dragon]

More people in those areas than in many other ones in the Zone

[glad temple]

So it can only be the same or more

[vernal magnet]

Except it does. You don’t get equality of outcome with equality of choice. Military is not gender split 50/50

[glad temple]

Obviously

[vernal magnet]

How many female@navy seals do you know of?

[glad temple]

That’s a good point, but the navy is different from the army

[vernal magnet]

The zone kills men en mass I’m physical peak shape and I’m expected to believe a female weighing 175 soaking wet is carrying over a hundred kg of gear in the worlds most unknown and hostile location? No way

[finite dragon]

Kek

[vernal magnet]

We are also talking about eastern faction. Slavic countries use females in military operations even less than the US

It’s just culture. Nobody hates women that would be stupid Incel banter. But an unrealistic stalker is going straight in the trash

[finite dragon]

Exactly

[glad temple]

And so you’re saying not even one woman could logically be in the zone?

[vernal magnet]

No. We already established that anomalies exist. A handful at best.

[finite dragon]

They could be, but they most likely won't last long anyways

[glad temple]

That’s what I was talking about

[vernal magnet]

But think about it. How much does Hip stand out in anomaly? A lot…..she doesn’t fit there

[finite dragon]

And doubt that many womans will even go to the Zone

[vernal magnet]

With a handful your already running that risk unless your lore is daaaaaaamn good and gives them a real reason to be there

[finite dragon]

Maybe just a minority

I mean if there would be a woman character then it better be a good one that would have an interesting backstory

[glad temple]

I’m sure GSC is capable at making a good backstory

[finite dragon]

Like a scientist woman that wants to explore the Zone with other scientists or something like that would do

[vernal magnet]

Do it right or don’t do it at all. That’s real game design. The original shadow of chernobyl cut so much that it knew it couldn’t deliver on

[finite dragon]

No doubt

[glad temple]

That’s what I was thinking

[vernal magnet]

Anyone can make a good story. But not just anyone can make a good stalker story. The original guy died and it’s a whole new team. Check the expectations

Scientist females make 100% sense

But military factions is a hell nah

I have enough cringe western games for inclusiveness. I want a real life story now

[glad temple]

Obviously most likely no woman would be actively stalking, but a scientist would be a good position

[finite dragon]

I don't believe in any way that woman being in Military would fit in Stalker anyways tbh

[grand pendant]

i mean, what would you consider a real reason?

them just wanting money?

[finite dragon]

Maybe just stalker womans but even they won't be so believable

And them being in a terrible minority

[grand pendant]

Leska (story told in CS) went to the Zone with her boyfriend just looking for an adventure

[vernal magnet]

Death of a loved one driving her to make a wish or to find a rare artifact that has incredible healing properties. And a solo stalker loner like that is going to die

She would just be one of the uniforms face down next to the irradiated truck in the cordon.

[glad temple]

So like most stalkers

Most of them have a death wish

[grand pendant]

except that's false

[vernal magnet]

No. None of this is ever established in lore. Slightly with the oasis but that’s it

[grand pendant]

talk to the random stalker, they are average people looking to satisfy their greed

[finite dragon]

Most of the stalkers are dreamers and perfectionists

[grand pendant]

not everyone needs a deep backstory

[vernal magnet]

Stalkers are men who have forsaken their brutal lives outside of the zone so much that certain death odds of the zone are minuscule to them so they have the sliver of hope to gather enough artifacts to make a good living or possibly winning the lottery with a wish

[glad temple]

I mean they are willing to die, even on the off chance it means they can gratify their greed

[finite dragon]

Cost is too great tho

They can die every minute

[grand pendant]

being willing to die isn't the same as having a deathwish

[vernal magnet]

Men are snakes and women are holes. Snakes look for holes but holes never look for snakes, we are built different with different drives. A women has no place in the zone. A broken man does. The zone is truly no place for anyone but the broken

[finite dragon]

And some may not even make a solid bucks

[vernal magnet]

Look at Slavic culture and tell me with a straight face that women are hanging out in the zone

[glad temple]

Being blinded by greed can make people do wild things

[finite dragon]

Sadly yeah

[grand pendant]

i mean i personally don't want women in the game but that's just because i don't like changes and want S2 to be as similar as possible to the rest, most other reasons i've read here are dumb

[vernal magnet]

What? The fact that human beings make nuanced decisions and that men and women aren’t the same?

[grand pendant]

no, the fact that a woman in the canon lore HAS tried to reach the Zone

if one did, others did as well

[vernal magnet]

I don’t know that many downtrodden alcoholic females like Slavic dudes chopping at the bit to provide

[grand pendant]

some probably got through

[finite dragon]

Woman not fitting the Zone like man does is a fact

[vernal magnet]

It makes sense in passing lore. It doesn’t make sense to see it

[finite dragon]

Hell, even some man don't really fit there lol

[vernal magnet]

They wouldn’t survive. Hell WE don’t survive in the zone lol. That’s the point

[vernal magnet]

Thank you!

[grand pendant]

yeah, that's the point. Most men don't survive in the Zone, dozens died by the week in CS. Yet they keep going...

-ban @blissful locust

[finite dragon]

Exactly. And now imagine some skinny womans

[iron heath]

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[glad temple]

Why skinny womans

[vernal magnet]

Yes, yet they keep going. En masse. Men of a common philosophy

[vernal magnet]

They can’t physically keep up with the environmental demands

They would fall behind their peers and become a liability

Only a incredibly remarkable exception could travel light and stealthy

[glad temple]

Yeah because they’re skinny, there are women more built for the task than skinny ones

[vernal magnet]

A built women needs to sustain that body mass. She would not be able to in the zone with sleep deprivation. Lack of food and nutrition, etc

[glad temple]

Not every woman is the same. Same for men

[tired anvil]

Aye bro, the Scarlet Flower exists for a reason

[glad temple]

So does a man

[vernal magnet]

Yes but not the same degree. Why do you think we have make and female sports?

We aren’t made the same

[grand pendant]

guns make us equal

[glad temple]

This is true

[finite dragon]

Spoken like a true American

[vernal magnet]

It’s not sexism, it’s just straight up science. No guns don’t make us equal. If your tired, your dead. If I’m still trucking along. I keep living

The fleshes will grab her and I’ll still be running

[grand pendant]

that actually may end up being english canon, the fact that a dude got a full harem with it

[vernal magnet]

It is what it is. The zone is the most brutal place on earth

[grand pendant]

original text says he just found money or smth valuable, not an artifact that got him all the ladies

[tired anvil]

This is like the 3rd time this week that I'm hearing the fun stuff being retconned by god damn translations

[vernal magnet]

The implication of that is he did what porcupine did and left the zone to reap the benefits of the artifact. So help me god if there’s a zone harem I’m throwing this game in the trash lol

[finite dragon]

Also here's another thing: imagine a woman or few in areas full of man. I can bet there it will have a LOT of bad consequences

You know... like those womans getting r**** and such

[vernal magnet]

Exactly. People hate when it gets brought up but the social implications remain, especially given the stories context

You already have bandits brutalizing fellow man in the zone for pocket change if that. Connect the dots people

[grand pendant]

nah the original text is a stalker got an artifact that basically got him a harem outside the Zone, we all thought that artifact was the Scarlet Flower, since it's only confirmed effect is to "woo" women.

don't really know what "woo" means just connected the dots

but apparently, it's false

[glad temple]

Sad

[vernal magnet]

Right no I agree, just saying he got the girls outside of the zone and not inside. Cause they wouldn’t be there lol

[grand pendant]

men got raped in the Zone

meet Poker

[vernal magnet]

Nobody is safe

[grand pendant]

my point

[finite dragon]

Pretty much

[tired anvil]

That was also a translation error I think 🙃

But it's one I'm ignoring

[grand pendant]

yeah, 100% is a translation error

[vernal magnet]

We are one translation away from debating if boning bloodsuckers is literal canon

[finite dragon]

A lot of translation errors tbh

[grand pendant]

they likely meant someone excessively violent. 'Violence' and 'rape' are very similar in Russian.

[glad temple]

It’s canon if I’m in it

[vernal magnet]

happy tentacle noises

[finite dragon]

[vernal magnet]

Both horrifying

All I’m saying is i wouldn’t want to be the one a Pseudogiant thought was pretty

[glad temple]

They don’t call them an apex predator for nothin

[grand pendant]

yep, but he was called a "serial rapist" in SoC. And there were only men in the Zone, at least for what we know so far

[finite dragon]

how this come up

devs said there was going to be ?

[hushed aurora]

Nah, pure hypothetical talk

[grand pendant]

nah, these convos always happen from time to time

[half glade]

woman moment

[half glade]

woman moment

[finite dragon]

oh alright then thanks

[vernal magnet]

I can’t recall if his lore was expanded in the Russian to elaborate if his crimes were inside or previously outside the zone

[finite dragon]

Why is Strelok's simp a bandit when Strelok himself is against them

[vernal magnet]

You still waiting for your pre order bro or did your territory open up ultimates yet?

[finite dragon]

[vernal magnet]

You know too much silenced PMM click

[half glade]

i will literally fight you to deaht u little god damn gremlin

[finite dragon]

Terrified in bandit

[half glade]

i will cheeky breeky your kneecaps

[finite dragon]

lol i dont think its open yet or I am just waiting for the closer day when stalker comes out

[half glade]

[grand pendant]

you may be thinking of Bes

[vernal magnet]

We are so starved for news and gameplay that we are left to eat ourselves

[half glade]

literally poop your self

[finite dragon]

Sultan?

[vernal magnet]

captains log, day 125 still no preorders for USA…

[finite dragon]

Bes too actually

[vernal magnet]

I’m sure most the bandits have some treacherous backstories

[glad temple]

We’ve got 187 days

[finite dragon]

Pretty much, majority of them came to the Zone to hide from real world's justice

[half glade]

[finite dragon]

[grand pendant]

-mute @half glade 1d

[iron heath]

Auttaja

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[grand pendant]

continue gentlemen

[glad temple]

Lmao

But yes we just above half a year left

[finite dragon]

freedom member moment

[glad temple]

This is why clear sky is best

[finite dragon]

ah yes the clear sky

best sky

Clear Sky's leader basically wasted the whole faction

That was a big waste

[vernal magnet]

Cursed by the hitler mustache

[finite dragon]

unmute simp for one min

[finite dragon]

pls no remind

it hurts

Ok

[glad temple]

My heart

[finite dragon]

that was pretty brutal moment for the sky

Seeing other former Clear Sky members who didn't went to the CNPP would be cool ngl

[vernal magnet]

The end of clear sky was funny it’s like hope you had fun everyone dead The End

[grand pendant]

yo you're his friend, right?

[finite dragon]

Pretty sure not only Novikov and Nimble are what remains of CS

[finite dragon]

yes the simps best friend

[glad temple]

gets muted too

[grand pendant]

tell him to stop being annoying

[finite dragon]

rip

[vernal magnet]

Nimble is a slippery one. Dude always lives

[grand pendant]

i think his death was foreshadowed in CoP

[finite dragon]

Exactly lol, luck is on his side

[grand pendant]

he said " I feel like my luck is running out" or something like that

[vernal magnet]

Nimble dies in S2 confirmed

[finite dragon]

Fr??

[vernal magnet]

GG bois

No I’m jk lol

[finite dragon]

simp said it was a joke and sarcastic

Insert they had us in the first half gif

nimble got rekt

[vernal magnet]

And just before he died, nimble sold his own life to his captor and somehow made himself useful enough to live again

[finite dragon]

Yeah similar to this

Would really suck to see him dying tho

btw has there been any update since trailer drop?

[grand pendant]

tell him to DM me if he wishes to say anything

[vernal magnet]

They’d have a gun to his head and he’d be like, “hey, I can cut you a deal on an exo suit like you wouldn’t believe”

[finite dragon]

yes "he" lol

[grand pendant]

they, then

[finite dragon]

Or she

she, her*

[grand pendant]

gotcha

[vernal magnet]

Нет

[finite dragon]

[finite dragon]

ah bummer

maybe soon

Let's hope

Starts prays to the Monolith

[vernal magnet]

im banking on one new something before end of the year

[robust mountain]

If Clear Sky returns I'm boycotting the game

[vernal magnet]

Hear that GSC? Clouds or we riot

better be a rainy sky or else

[robust mountain]

[finite dragon]

serious question

if the c-conscious were to be destroyed would the zone disappear?

wait nvm, i got the other ending not realizing he did destroy the life support for the c consciousness

but if the c-consciousness wants to keep the zone from expanding why would it create the wishgranter which after granting a wish, expands the zone 5 km in every direction?

[wispy walrus]

well

what if the wishgranter really is an alien rock that controls evolution, and has just convinced the C-con its a hologram and they have control.

sorry if that's too galaxy brain level thinking for you all.

Tell me how can a hologram even grant wishes

[vernal magnet]

I dig this unironically. 2001 space odyssey vibes

and harkens back to roadside picnic with the alien element

[wispy walrus]

pretty sure that's literally what it was in the builds

a black obelisk

probably was just a little TOO WACKY

the builds, early on the lore was a complete different beast.

[grand pendant]

it is, but it's named Monolith

[wispy walrus]

wasn't the build ver named the Black Monolith specifically, the wish granter I mean

[grand pendant]

wish granter is different from monolith

People say many things. Some even say that everything that happens in the Zone and the Zone itself are alien handiwork. The theory is that they left a module, the Black Monolith, somewhere in the center, which changed everything around it. A sort of global experiment on mankind. It's like a weapons testing facility for them, you know? Stalkers collect artifacts and sell them on, which means that every large science research center probably has a few. And that's how the Black Monolith spreads its influence around the world. Nobody knows what the consequences will be. Maybe artifacts are just trinkets and maybe they really do affect humans somehow. Maybe this theory is a load of bull, but who's to say the Zone isn't here spreading artifacts around for a reason? If only we could get some answers from the people who've been beyond that damn radar. They could tell us if there's really a Monolith in the center or not - that would clear things up some.
dialogue from CS

[wispy walrus]

its not tho

they're normally used to reference the same thing

[grand pendant]

by stalkers that don't know the difference

the wish granter is an illusion that allegedly grants wishes to anyone who reaches it. But the Monolith (faction) never really believe that version

they just thought it was an alien genetic module that fell from space

and deemed themselves its protectors

[wispy walrus]

There's no proof the Wish granter is fake. There's no way to prove its not a giant rock that can control evolution and people's minds like what in theory the Monolith is

If its an all powerful alien rock, couldn't it easily convince everyone who sees it that its fake and a hologram?

[vernal magnet]

the wishgranter was supposed to be created by C-con

i was always under the impression it was a falsehood. it does increase the 5km of zone per wish still for whatever reason

[grand pendant]

aight lemme find the dialogue

[grand pendant]

that's a myth

not true

[vernal magnet]

i think the main reason is it realizes someone made it to the center which is too heavy a risk so increasing the zone radius makes it even harder to penetrate each time

[wispy walrus]

Let me say this, can you even trust the C-CON

how do you know if the Wishgranter really is an alien rock, it didn't just make the C-CON think they made it?

[vernal magnet]

only the March 2002 Design Document 1.4 refers to the monolith as the black space rock

[wispy walrus]

that's build territory

[vernal magnet]

i think they scrapped that lore in favor of the C-con

[grand pendant]

and the canon dialogue from CS i just sent

• another one

from CS too

[vernal magnet]

that dialogue comes off as an easter egg to the lore. the whole dialogue is a stalker speculation

[grand pendant]

CS has nothing to do with SoC builds

[vernal magnet]

even pointing out they need to get further in to learn more

[wispy walrus]

that CS quote could easily be conspiracy theory stuff

[grand pendant]

they still called it Black Monolith

[vernal magnet]

that doesnt corroborate the associating lore though

[wispy walrus]

it flatout says in the quote it might "bull"

[vernal magnet]

still easter egg or simply reused the name

[grand pendant]

why didn't they just use Wish Granter though?

[vernal magnet]

the wish granter / monolith are interchangeable. the monolith faction is named after the rock

[wispy walrus]

people call them whatever, people call the wish granter that and monolith, its interchangable

they're both obelisk style rocks in the center of the zone, its not hard to connect the dots

[grand pendant]

many dialogues beg to differ

[vernal magnet]

it depends if the dialogue refers to monolith as a faction or not

monolith can be soldiers, the rock, a few things really

[grand pendant]

the ones i have in mind refer to something very different from the wish grnater

[pseudo yoke]

Monolith is based

[wispy walrus]

its just different theories on the wish granter

they're all one in the same thing tho, just different theories on what it really is.

[grand pendant]

my point is, the wish granter is false. The Monolith would be the real thing if it was even true

[vernal magnet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/b06u1g/origins_of_the_wish_granter_stalkers_biggest/

original russian interview translated

"monolith is man made"

correct, the wish granter is a monkeys paw

[wispy walrus]

so tell me tommy

[vernal magnet]

just as the generators were to create blowouts to deter stalkers from the center

[wispy walrus]

if its an alien rock that can cause hallucinations and mind control people can't it just pretend its a hologram

[grand pendant]

because it's not a hologram

it's a device

[vernal magnet]

my question would be if its an alien artifact then how is the C-conscience group / government insulated from its influence to begin with

[wispy walrus]

the C-Con is who says its a hologram

[vernal magnet]

the whole point of being brainwashed to become monolith was a ploy by C-con

hence the CS ending with the monitors

[grand pendant]

Strelok says it's a device

[vernal magnet]

and Strelok being programmed by accident to kill himself

[wispy walrus]

which is a form of device

How do we know the C-con isn't just led to believe they're doing it all out of their freewill

[vernal magnet]

everything can loosely be interpreted as a device. alien or not

[vernal magnet]

we dont. Stalker 2 will have to tell more. Alot of this aspect of the lore is still hidden

[grand pendant]

the monitors aren't the only thing that makes them become part of the Monolith

i assume the monitors are what makes them marked agents

[vernal magnet]

no but im saying the convential means of monitors is hardly alien

[grand pendant]

oh yeah, agreed

[grand pendant]

because so far, that's just a conspiracy theory

[vernal magnet]

but rrrrr point stands that the "chain of influence" so to speak can be higher than C-con

we just dont know yet

[wispy walrus]

Cop suggests the zone has continued as it was before

even without the c-con

suggesting they never had any control at all.

[vernal magnet]

That was always my assumption. Especially with S2 being confirmed years later

something is keeping the Rock running

[grand pendant]

CoP suggests that after the Zone was created, it couldn't be destroyed by just killing the ones who created it

[grand pendant]

just SoC suggeats that

[vernal magnet]

i think the zone dissapearing is not possible due to the noosphere damage

[grand pendant]

they never had much control over itt if half their marked agents died before waking up

[vernal magnet]

correct me if im wrong but C-con explains that their influence to make peace in the noosphere is what caused the accident and the zone to appear

[wispy walrus]

how come there's emission still if that's the generators doing it pre cop? releasing energy, how come something can still control the Monolith soldiers, etc

[vernal magnet]

as a result of damaging noosphere

[wispy walrus]

there's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up if the C-CON is dead

and the wishgranter is a fake

[vernal magnet]

C-con 2 perhaps?

they could say the hivemind was greater then the capsules strelok found

[wispy walrus]

cop is like 2-4 weeks after shoc

I highly doubt we'll go the alien rock route sadly

given most of the wacky stuff has slowly decreased since the builds

[vernal magnet]

the alien route feels very dangerous and cheap

utlimately the allure of roadside picnic was the aliens being indifferent to us. their stop on our planet was a mere picnic and blip on their journey

[grand pendant]

the Monolith getting orders and reinforcementa from the CNPP can imply the Group was more than just C-Con scientists

[wispy walrus]

tbh the idea of the group is boring imo

[vernal magnet]

Mankind playing God with the noosphere makes sense if it were possible

[grand pendant]

besides, Monolith soldiers influence has decreased, since they ask why has it abandonded them + the need for preachers to keep them in line

[wispy walrus]

imo say the scientists trying to mess with the noosphere attracted an actual alien rock in the process would be interesting to me, but I prefer a more wacky setting for my stalker

[vernal magnet]

very true. there will have to be a reason for them to vehemently perform their duty. cant have a stalker without monolith

"the heart of chernobyl" is very ominous

one would assume it means the wishgranter but it could be far deeper than that

[grand pendant]

i like to believe there is nothing in the heart of chernobyl

[vernal magnet]

quite anti-climactic

[grand pendant]

The Wish Granter, the Monolith, the Klondike of Artifacts... Just stories made up by greedy stalkers as a reason to keep pushing

[vernal magnet]

Nichaz wants something critical from the zone

bad enough to perform nefariously to acquire it

perhaps an organization who believes their actions for the greater good will repair the noosphere....

[grand pendant]

if Strelok did get to center and CoP isn't a fever dream, all of the tales we heard are false

there is a cut dialogue from CoP detailing that Strelok found something in the CNPP, after weeks of turning every nook and cranny

[vernal magnet]

yes if this were true the story ended at the end of SOC

but apparently it did not. personally, i always disliked COP's story and thought it didnt fit after the end of SOC

like where did strelok wake up then? and COP has strelok so if it was a fading vision it just....idk, kind of sucks lol

SOC had such a profound (true) ending

i love the COP characters but the story felt like fan fiction a bit. it lacked the greater philosophical conundrums

[grand pendant]

agreed

[vernal magnet]

and that brady bunch still photo ending didnt do it any favors for final impressions. except the Live To Forget song. that rocked

i put CS above COP strictly for the plot. even though COP plays better

[grand pendant]

yeah, same. CS has really good lore

and the fact that emissions became that much more frequent after Strelok destroyed C-Con does imply they had some sort of control

he also says that the people behind everything are currently "hiding somewhere else" which reinforces the idea of the rest of Group members pulling some strings thing

[vernal magnet]

maybe those individuals have infiltrated Nichaz already

[pseudo yoke]

CoP was the weakest of the 3

It added the best expansion to Monolith though

[finite dragon]

Exactly. Zone full of mutants and anomalies got created because of C-Consciousness' experiment with noosphere

After CC got destroyed by Strelok there was simply no one left to control all that noosphere energy CC tried to control and as a result Zone became more unstable than ever

[glacial quartz]

Does anyone know if S2 will have both 1st and 3rd person view?

[finite dragon]

But even CC was already struggling from keeping the Zone from expending further, as shown in a convo with one of it's representatives. To the point where he even asks Strelok to join them

But I believe that the whole Zone expending situation was alreasy inavitable from the start to begin with. Strelok just made the whole process faster

[pseudo yoke]

@glacial quartz Only 1st

[finite dragon]

Maybe capsules he destroyed had some kind of psy emission? Resulting Strelok to pass out in the same room and having a dream he had

Just a speculation tho

[long harbor]

I managed to make 11000 RU in Clear Sky by looting every single corpses and sell them to the nearest trader.

I bought some medkits, a lotta bandages and energy drink then a decent "Wing of Freedom" suit.

I'm so proud of myself.

[finite dragon]

making money in cs is hell

[quick dune]

selling bodies for profit

[pseudo yoke]

Is FOTOGRAF any good?

[silver fern]

[robust mountain]

CoP's ending was just silly, the whole game was

Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat feel like they were made by a completely different studio that had no clue what Shadow of Chernobyl was about

Clear Sky especially felt that way, a different studio trying make a prequel that connects to the original story

[pseudo yoke]

Clear Sky feels like a prequel

and its the 2nd best Stalker game

[robust mountain]

It is a prequel

||You're trying to stop Strelok, after clear sky he ends up in the death truck||

[quick dune]

probably because it is a prequel

smh

[silver fern]

[pseudo yoke]

Yes I know

I have over 2k hours in the series

[quick dune]

stop the cap

[robust mountain]

I mean it's easily possible, if I had to guess I have like 10k+ hours since 2009, sadly I played on either physical copies or GOG

yes, I have a problem

[solid dome]

No proof, no concept

[robust mountain]

What do I have to prove to anyone

I'm playing the game for longer than the majority of CoD player's age

[flat scroll]

meow

[robust mountain]

[flat scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/sagesquad-meow-cat-gif-18667716

[nova crag]

Do you record your hours now with GOG Galaxy?

[robust mountain]

Yeah now I do, but that wasn't a thing back then

I don't play the base games as insanely much as I used to.

[nova crag]

I remember using Xfire and Raptr. Too bad they died and took the info. with them ☹️

[robust mountain]

Yeah at one point I added them to my steam client "add a non-steam game" in around 2013 but I'm not sure if it tracked my playtime and eventually I switched computers and the tracking would be gone now anyway

I'm ashamed to admit that a big chunk of my complete playtime would be early versions of Misery

The rest vanilla/modded Shadow of Chernobyl

And I'm willing to sink a lot of time in Heart of Chernobyl if it doesn't blow, maybe I'll even animate for it

[tired anvil]

You have S2 by Dezowave coming in 6 years if it does blow

[robust mountain]

It won't use the damn drunk Ukrainian file formats

skl, skls, object, ogf, omf

I curse thee past GSC!

It's FBX or nothing

[robust mountain]

Unironically excited what it will look like, not super excited for the thing as a whole, but I am curious. The design documents for it were hilariously corny and dumb

[tired anvil]

Agreed

[robust mountain]

I like the mutants though, they are NDA

I'm sure most of you have seen the Bloodsucker, but there's more stuff

[tired anvil]

I like some of the leaked concept arts and locations

The mine looked cool

[robust mountain]

Oh yeah

[tired anvil]

The Bloodsucker, the feral dog thing, forgot the name

[robust mountain]

Locations were indeed cool, the story is uhhh.. yeah

[tired anvil]

Strelok go boom, you're hunted now

10/10

[ashen axle]

Asnen#5382 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[robust mountain]

Well it's hard to connect to Call of Pripyat because it closed the story for some damn reason

Haha Zone is unstable now, run away

I WANT TO STAY GOD DAMN IT

[tired anvil]

Makes it even more challenging for S2 now seeing how many years passed and how many things changed. I'm just waiting for the retcons