#⭐┃nospoilers_general

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trim hound
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i checked site and option of retail dissapeared

tired anvil
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I do as Sergiy is swimming in cash from anything going from the original series and novels to a professional motorcycle racing career and his own track

worthy scroll
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I only want the physical ultimate edition..not the digital

trim hound
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me too

vernal magnet
tired anvil
finite dragon
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halloohaaaa stalkerrssss

vernal magnet
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theres plenty already to say otherwise

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the OG trilogy doesnt pay that many bills

tired anvil
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I mean sure, there's arguments to both our points, so I guess unless we know officially, we may never know smile_strelok

vernal magnet
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but GSC already was looking for a publisher

tired anvil
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Though I imagine if a man has his own motorcycle racing track, he has some money around

dire galleon
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Still bad thing to do imo

vernal magnet
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one we now know is Kosh media. same publisher for the original trilogy

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it aint just microsoft money

tired anvil
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Welp, whatever it may be, in the end I'm just happy if the game is out

worthy fable
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You'll be blown out of the water if you go in with little hype

vernal magnet
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i think everything except the music will win me over

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nobody can replace Mooze and i only like half of what i've heard so far

tired anvil
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Concept art has won me over personally

worthy fable
vernal magnet
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the music with the tone like we saw with the weapon showcase nails what i want

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everything else feels off big time. not enough somberness and danger

tired anvil
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Not a fan of Zone Dreams?

dire galleon
worthy fable
vernal magnet
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i will walk my dog and when S.A.D comes on. im totally in the zone

worthy fable
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echo

vernal magnet
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the last 30 seconds of zone dreams is pretty ok though

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beginning is not for me

tired anvil
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Sidenote, I like Duga being used as an audio waveform in the video for it

vernal magnet
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thats bothering me anyway

vapid compass
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did i break stalker cop? i had to kill vano and a luitennant because they starting shooting me (theres no green icon in map anymore, just side mission ones)

vernal magnet
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the Cypher song from the original reveal slaps though.

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the sample of the original theme with the new sound is brilliant

tired anvil
vernal magnet
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108 bits of the zone is ultra hype for the trailer, wondering where it will fit in the game. maybe the opening? it also slaps

worthy fable
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That's the interesting thing about music, what peaks my interest might not peak your's, we shall see how big the soundtrack is

vernal magnet
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now that i think about it...i just dont like zone dreams lol

tired anvil
worthy fable
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I've always been intrested in what will happen to strelok since i think we're supposted to have a new protaganist

vernal magnet
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if dirge for the planet is not playing in a bunker or bar i am rioting

tired anvil
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Protag is Skif, yea

vernal magnet
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if dirge for the planet is not playing in a bunker or bar i am rioting

tired anvil
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Leave Strelok to the 2011 plot smile_strelok

vernal magnet
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poor strelok. seems like he gets a bad hand in the OG story and the new one so far lol

trim hound
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I JUST BOUGHT IT !!!!!

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HA !!!!! I CANT WAIT !!!!!

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THX EVERYONE FOR HELP SEE U !!!!! :3

tired anvil
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Cya, have fun waiting

vernal magnet
dire galleon
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btw i still wonder, why steam won't add that "upgrade edition" stuff for every game with editions, that would be very useful

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But S2 is the only game that i noticed saying this, when I'm trying to get ultimate: SAME PRODUCTS According to our information, you already have one or more items from your shopping cart. If you buy this for yourself, you will not receive additional copies: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chernobyl Are you sure you want to make this purchase?

tired anvil
edgy narwhal
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Hello there Stalkers

finite dragon
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Howdy

celest solstice
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If they don't give NA a chance to buy the physical Ultimate Edition I am going to flip out 🤬

vernal magnet
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if you bought regular you gotta refund it or wait for release to buy additional content

dire galleon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vernal magnet
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same thing

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either way because you have standard you have to wait for the steam listing to be updated

dire galleon
vernal magnet
finite dragon
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sounds about right

finite dragon
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Too big to miss out on

solid dome
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Ooof, what a useless anouncement about the bearded lad

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Come on, beards don't exist. Bears too. Only beer does.

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Fake PR

worn nacelle
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Sry but, is there a chat for bug reports and help with fixing? Cuz there's either none or I'm blind

hushed aurora
spring fossil
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I am literally so stoked to preorder the Retail Ultimate Edition, when it releases soon and all So_Good

hard ermine
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What's the deal with the collectors edditions. Are they available yet?

dull anvil
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Finally finished anomaly

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Gonna play as monolith next and see how far i feel like going

finite dragon
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It is unknown when the retail ultimate edition will come out

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I mean it's been out on Germany

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But depends on your region I guess

wet turtle
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still not working

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the body health system even though i use MO2

delicate sparrow
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You're trying to mod Anomaly correct?

wet turtle
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yes

misty tusk
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we're so close to US pre-ordering I can almost taste it

minor seal
finite dragon
bronze mason
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Greetings fellow Stalkers. I'm looking forward to pre-ordering the physical edition for PC, but can't see anything on their site. Does anyone know when pre-order in Europe starts? Thanks

finite dragon
bronze mason
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Do you have a link please? I can see the physical edition on their site but no button to pre-order. Thanks

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I just found the option to pre-order digital

wispy pier
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skiff marked one brother confirm!11?

finite dragon
bronze mason
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UK

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Thanks

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Looks like its just the standard edition for the UK at the moment 🦊

finite dragon
wispy pier
finite dragon
bronze mason
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😄

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I am very curious to see the price though. The USD was over $300, so wanna see how that compares to GBP, it may be too expensive for me

wispy pier
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its too expensive for me in asia

finite dragon
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asian gang

potent bluff
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yeeee

finite dragon
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Can only buy the digital standard edition

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smile_strelok but eh I am still saving

potent bluff
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Ultimate Edition Gangz

finite dragon
bronze mason
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The most expensive game pre-order I've bought was Doom Eternal, £200 for the Ultimate, but even that was too much. So I might just stick with the Deluxe edition

finite dragon
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lemme check what STALKER 2 costs in MYR

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eeeeer

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it's 189.99MYR

bronze mason
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£245 for me for physical ultimate. Steep

finite dragon
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stalker 2 doesn't have the original prices (by it I mean it's just not the same as previous titles)

bronze mason
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That's just doing the straight conversion, but it will be more because of taxes

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Well I don't need an artefact Lamp or a backpack.

finite dragon
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same

bronze mason
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The next one down is collectors for £130, more reasonable

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I've still got my original STALKER special edition. The tin looks like it's got radiation damage

bronze mason
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I know lol

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Yes i think it's Collector's for me, unless I get some mad bonus at work.

finite dragon
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lmao

wispy pier
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hmm

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my game doesnt load up in x10 lab

finite dragon
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is there an X10 lab?

finite dragon
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he means the one in brain scorcher i guess

quick dune
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x10 = x19

finite dragon
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Ight

hushed fjord
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Hi

woeful cape
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though, at the same time, that'll save me a looot of money

tepid ibex
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Well guys, I did it. Ultimate Edition has been ordered

opaque meadow
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sad my laptop probably wont run stalker 2

weak valve
finite dragon
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man my laptop can only run stalker in dx8

limpid cargo
tepid ibex
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@limpid cargo euro.com.pl
The only shop available in Poland

limpid cargo
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Oh yeah that store I think its in the pre order tab on discord. Sadly they don"t ship outside of Poland.

wispy pier
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okay im soooooooo close to a bloodsucker spawn in BS Bunker

spring fossil
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If you close your eyes I've heard the Bloodsuckers can't see you.

finite dragon
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where i can found teta zombie in stalker anomaly dkud

oblique crystal
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So S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 Ultimate Retail Edition for PC in Denmark, when? Just take my money!

halcyon vector
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hey, can someone help me out with the installing stalker?

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i'm having some issues and i don't understand why.

haughty cove
halcyon vector
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well, i can't seem to be capable of extracting it properly.

haughty cove
halcyon vector
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disk i think.

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i got the Stalker Anomaly when it was free and now i am trying to install it agian, and it just won't work.

haughty cove
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Ohhh Anomaly, okay. So you’re trying to extract the game files from the zip yes?

halcyon vector
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yes

rugged scaffold
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I really hope CE is available for the Scandinavian countries too. So far only standard edition listed.

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It would be a huge bummer if we don;t even get the chance here.

haughty cove
# halcyon vector yes

Okay. If you’re not already using WinZip, I’d recommend using that (a lot of people use 7zip, but it just ain’t as good). It might be a problem with where you’re trying to extract it, try just doing it into a folder on your desktop

halcyon vector
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is there like a way to extract it wrong

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if you want to tune in i can show you the way it was extracteed

haughty cove
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RIP accidental click, I’d go on call but my gf is asleep next to me 😅

halcyon vector
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oh, i get you buddy don't worry, well, i'll delete this folder and try to re do it

haughty cove
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I’m not sure if there’s a “wrong” way to extract, you can try either in the application itself or by right-clicking the icon wherever you have it installed

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Fair enough man, gl

manic pelican
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No channels for the original games? Guess I'll ask here. At the risk of asking an inflammatory question, does Shadow of Chernobyl get better? I've gotten myself into the basements of the research building and not enjoyed a minute of it. Is it the same from here on out or does it change?

tired anvil
manic pelican
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Played none of them before. Figured I'd give them a whirl since they're along similar lines as Metro and I very much enjoy that series. Currently got SoC working with ZRP going too and like I say, not really enjoying myself. Just wondering if there's more to it or if it's more of the same and just not for me.

tired anvil
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(Also this is a channel for the original games)

Idk what to tell you tbh, for some it clicks instantly, for some later, some replayed it for it to click, for some it never does, for some only 1/3 or 2/3 of the games click

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It's really a type of thing where you just sorta finish and decide on your own or ragequit in the process

still ridge
tired anvil
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Using mods on a first playthrough

still ridge
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If you’re not drawn to the zone because of its mystery and horror then I’m afraid you won’t enjoy it at all

tired anvil
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To each their own

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SoC is my least favourite personally, but I still like it

manic pelican
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I mean so far I've not noticed a whole lot of atmosphere.

I was hoping for an interesting narrative or idea but so far the zone might as well just be a field full of bandits.

Re: mods the only reason I've seen people recommend not using ZRP for a first playtrhough is so you can suffer to see why it's necessary and I'm not a fan of making things harder for the sake of it.

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I could be wrong - am just a newcomer here. Just trying to figure out whether it's worth continuing to struggle through this. If it gets better and more interesting I can try put in some more time but if not then not.

tired anvil
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Up to you, it's really a perspective thing. Like, some don't consider it hard without any mods (I'm one of those people), whilst some consider it a challenge even with ZRP and other stuff

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As they say, every copy of Stalker is personalised smile_strelok

manic pelican
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While I'm here - do the other two games require you to have played the first one or are they all different and unconnected stories in the same world?

tired anvil
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Clear Sky is a prequel, CoP is a sequel, though it's recommended to finish SoC before playing either of them

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They're different but also sorta connected

woeful cape
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soc is best to play first because of the gameplay, compared to cs or cop

tired anvil
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What

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SoC literally has the least amount of features for gameplay

manic pelican
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In what sense? Was about to say that so far it seems clunky af

woeful cape
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that's what i mean

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it hasn't aged as well, doesn't have as much polish, etc

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so i started with clear sky, and i couldn't get into soc afterwards because of the comparative clunkiness

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i wanted to do them in story order, not release order

tired anvil
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Release order helps with the story though, interestingly enough

manic pelican
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I mean I can deal with clunky if there's enough narrative in there to keep things interesting but so far I got nothing in SoC other than "find strelok"

woeful cape
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i've read so much of the wiki anyway, i'm familiat with most of it lmao

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going through the story missions and talking to key stalkers is how you get most of the story

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think dark souls and item descriptions, but optional dialogue

tired anvil
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Sorta designed in a way where your equipment gets better, and the enemies sorta, but it does become gradually easier

woeful cape
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also yeah, the starting gear is absolutely awful, you will be punished for making mistaked you don't understand early game

tired anvil
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Until the very very very end, but that's a tiny portion of everything

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Low crouch + Q/E: the game

woeful cape
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i find every stalker game is like that, starts off hard, easy mid-late game, then punishing finale

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but i love it due to the mix of horror and exploration, it's not just a sandbox shooter

manic pelican
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Yeah I figured that. Like I say all I got so far is Fox shot at strelok once, Mole is going to hide for a bit, and there might be a stash somewhere in the basement.

Like I say I'd love for more narrative or interesting stories but not got much else.

tired anvil
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Well, I can spoil you the fact that CoP and CS will be far better in those aspects

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CoP for the sidequests, CS for general lore

woeful cape
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granted, i haven't played much of soc as i said, so it is possible the story just isn't as prevalent as it is in the other titles

tired anvil
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Though I'd still finish SoC at least once

manic pelican
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Well, if I gotta grind through this either way, how long is SoC? Getting as far as I have (Fox, Mole, into the basements) going to be 1% or like 10% or what?

tired anvil
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10%? Maybe a bit more? Tbh hard to say

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Game length depends on the person, some complete it in 10h, some in 30h

manic pelican
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Yeah, fair.

woeful cape
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by basements, do you mean underground? the first underground mission is generally a decent chunk into the game

manic pelican
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Yeah went West from garbage (I think) into the map where you fight a bunch of military to get to Mole. Mole says that Strelok's stash is probably somewhere underground and points you to a basement full of bandits.

woeful cape
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i wanna say that's the agropom underground, yeah

tired anvil
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It is

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Wonder if he's seen the Controller yet

woeful cape
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oops
what i meant to say is that i have a very strong dislike for controllers

manic pelican
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Agropom, forgot the word

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Yeah that's it.

If the Controller is something big and noticeable then not seen it.

finite dragon
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someone call the mod

tired anvil
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@pseudo rivet

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Hi Crimson

manic pelican
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Trying to avoid spoilers if possible but yeah, just getting through it.

Well, guess I'll give it another go and keep on trying to grind the way through it.

tired anvil
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Have fun because seems like you aren't lmao

woeful cape
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i hope you have a shotgun on you, for the underground mission, i find it makes dealing with mutants a lot easier

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and don't be afraid to play on a lower difficulty, especially if you're in it mostly for the story

manic pelican
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Lol yeah.

Since I don't know anything, any advice for getting through this is appreciated

tired anvil
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Low crouch + q/e

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A lot seem to not know about low crouching

woeful cape
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mmhm

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also i know you wanted to avoid spoilers, but maybe watch a video on controllers so you know what to expect?

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they scared the pants off me when i first encountered one and i ended up dropping the game for a week because of it lmao

tired anvil
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They aren't that bad

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I have a better tip

woeful cape
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i can't handle their ||jumpscare type attack||

tired anvil
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Instead of shooting, run up and knife one of them. You'll know what it is when you see it

woeful cape
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just realized what time it is, i gotta dip. keep it cheeki breeki fellas and good luck pickleas

pseudo rivet
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Wat it B

tired anvil
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Were you not the one to delete the scam link?

pseudo rivet
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Nay

tired anvil
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Oh dang

pseudo rivet
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Was gone for just a sec

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Blow did the do

tired anvil
still ridge
cedar forum
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May I ask who were the Renegades???

still ridge
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Imo you play it for the world, not for the characters

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It’s far from a character driven story

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S2 might change that

worthy fable
tired anvil
finite dragon
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our old friend

novel briar
# cedar forum May I ask who were the Renegades???

Renegades are ||same as bandits, but they are enemy to all groups in a game, even to a bandits. As I remember PDA information says: Renegades are past members of that or another faction and they were betrayed by them or they left by themselves.|| - Spoiler. Literally... Just go install Stalker CS and play it.

worthy fable
finite dragon
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Any tips for OLR 2.5?

quick dune
worthy fable
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I love the stalker series, I've done vanilla playthroughs on all of them. The one I find myself coming back to the least sadly is CS just due to some massive bugs. The one that really kills me is the faction system never working properly. Anyone recommend any CS mods that fix the game but doesnt really change the game itself much?

finite dragon
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WTH

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HELICOPTER JUST BLEW ME UP

worthy fable
finite dragon
worthy fable
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Intresting, I've never played a whole playthrough non-vanilla

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I've looked at that mod b4 but you would know better, how drastically does it change the game @finite dragon ?

finite dragon
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From 2002-2004 or smthn

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Its harder ofc

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Alright i delivered the suitcade

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Suitcase*

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Heli almost blew me up

worthy fable
finite dragon
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I will preorder stalker 2 before 1 month of the release

dire galleon
finite dragon
gleaming mantle
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Hello, stalkers!

worthy fable
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GET OUT OF HERE STALKER!

gleaming mantle
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But he said to come in, don't stand there.

worthy fable
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Best 2 lines in the series

uncut pond
worthy fable
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||Chilling outside CNPP during the emission till i die to watch the effects. I always sprint in full speed and ignore it.||

gleaming mantle
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That dark rain after the emission...so scary, yet so relaxing

solid prism
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Can't wait to see emmision in S2

manic pelican
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Without story spoilers - how essential is playing through SoC to being able to manage the other two games. I'm trying to get through it, but it's just not fun to me.

hushed aurora
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It's pretty important

manic pelican
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Well .

hushed aurora
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Rule 3 moment as well

worthy fable
manic pelican
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Welp, guess this series isn't for me then.

worthy fable
manic pelican
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The obvious clunkiness and datedness, the difficulty for the sake of difficulty for two. But those I could look past if there was a good narrative to back it up but I spend most of my time wondering why I'm bothering to go through all this challenge in the first place.

worthy fable
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Idk how all the questions from the intro cutscene and the start havent pushed you along

finite dragon
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OLR is fun

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Kinda laggy, but still fun

worthy fable
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There is a narrative but it starts out with a mystery

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Its not overtly "This is why you are doing this"

finite dragon
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Also holy hecc these artifact slots 😳

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So manu

manic pelican
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I'm four hours in and there's no interesting narrative in sight. The opening cutscene asked some good questions but there's only so far I want to be having no fun in my leisure time before I give up on the answers.

And don't get me wrong, the Zone is a fun idea but so far it might as well be any other field full of bandits.

worthy fable
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I heard you say that before but idk what your problem with bandits is? There mean people that want to steal your stuff

manic pelican
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No I don't have any issue with bandits

worthy fable
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I assume you're talking about Cordon right?

manic pelican
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I've been out and back from the research station up to the Duty bar.

My point is so far there's not much of all that interesting Zone lore showing up.

worthy fable
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How much did you actually do in yantar?

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aka where those ecologist scientists are

manic pelican
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Don't think I've gotten that far

worthy fable
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You're in for a ride

manic pelican
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I got to the main bar where you turn over the research lab files and then come here to see if it gets better.

worthy fable
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adds some background to the zone without it being in your face

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You should pay attention to more detail in the backgrounds of these labs, there's a lot more subtext to this game.

manic pelican
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I mean I guess I can give it another go tomorrow but my patience is wearing thin.

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Either way, to each their own so if the series isn't for me then don't let that get in the way of you guys enjoying it

worthy fable
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||That underground lab X-18 you just got those documents from is a secret lab for experiments, I don't want to say too much to not spoil anything||

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Nah ik this is all opinion. You don't like SOC but IMO i honestly hate CS, its such a broken mess for me I've only played it fully once

manic pelican
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I mean if the other two heavily require SoC I may well tap out. For now, at least.

worthy fable
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Well it just explains why the others are happening

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You don't NEED to play it but it defintely explains the gravity of what is going on

woeful cape
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like i said earlier, i started with clear sky and i loved it

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due to bugs i wasn't able to ||defeat the final enemy, as he ran into an unreachable area|| but other than that i enjoyed the gsme

worthy fable
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luckly he went on his normal A.I path and i did the thing

woeful cape
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eventually after killing all of the regulsr enemies and running around for a bit i decided to look it up on youtube, and figured out what i did wrong that way

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definitely a pain but imo there's enough meat to the rest of the game, and the entire rest of the ending was exciting enough that missing that one bit didn't ruin the experience for me

worthy fable
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Im going to be hearing Иди ко мне in my sleep for the next few days

quick portal
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hi

tired anvil
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Hola

finite dragon
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OLR 2.5 cool mod

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I enjoy

drowsy jewel
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im still stuck at the machine gunner after you leave the swamp. john basilone over there yeesh

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for clear sky ofc

limpid cargo
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Yeah I remember.

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I took it back down to novice then I went from cover to cover and ignored them

tired anvil
limpid cargo
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If you have hunting rifle with slug, AK or smg then yu can pick some of them off

drowsy jewel
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alright ill try both! thanks guys i gave up haha

limpid cargo
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np

tired anvil
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There is also another route, but try this first

limpid cargo
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It's one of the more bs parts of the game

tired anvil
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I love it personally

limpid cargo
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I didn't say I hate the game. For me stalker is a game I grew up playing

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It's just that section

hushed aurora
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It's really easy once you learn how to do it properly

limpid cargo
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I guess, but I like to do it the soviet way just running into it until it works lol.

finite dragon
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Cant wait till tommorow when i get home after school and play more of this masterpiece called OLR 2.5

worthy fable
meager wasp
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It’s too far away from release date

worn nacelle
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I'm sorry but, should I ask here if for example, people start dying at random even though they're in a safe zone? and the fact I can no long drag corpses?
like, people I have quests with, just, at random, die and I can't do the quests

tame helm
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wdym with in a safe zone

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like in a camp or something like bar

worn nacelle
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in a camp

tame helm
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camps aren't really safe

worn nacelle
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specifically, the second camp in stalker soc

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with the many ware houses

tame helm
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bes can die from too many pseudodogs

worn nacelle
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those are def safe

tame helm
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or just die from bandits

worn nacelle
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the ones that died were def not killed by pseudodogs

tame helm
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rookie village is safe for the most part

worn nacelle
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they were normal stalkers in the warehouses

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I am 10000% sure they didn't die from enemies

tame helm
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another safe camp is the farmstead near freedom base ig

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the farmstead is usually safe and if there's corpses it's usually from campfires

worn nacelle
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where people died around the camp fire, guns stuck under the campfire

tame helm
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yes but most are easy to grab

worn nacelle
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fr? do they spawn in the campfire or something?

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but like, all of them were too far away to be a campfire..

tame helm
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probably because Alife

worn nacelle
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and the dude you report to after raiding the freedom base died on me

tame helm
worn nacelle
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so I can't finish that

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and what about the fact I just, at random, stopped being able to pick up corpses?

tame helm
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oh u can't pick up corpses?

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idk

worn nacelle
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yeah, it's like the moment I kil them, limbs of parts of them get stuck on the ground

#

but at the same time I can pick them up, but my guy immediately drops them

#

I used corpses to move loot in mass

tame helm
#

oh

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such is life in the zone

worn nacelle
#

had a corpse with like, one god knows how many L85s and sgis and what not just despawn ; - ;

#

after I quick loaded, sadness

tame helm
#

you should never put loot in non important npc corpses

worn nacelle
#

it never did it

tame helm
#

those corpses would despawn

#

what corpse did u use

worn nacelle
#

yeah but they never despawned immediately

tame helm
#

indeed

worn nacelle
#

of a dude I had just killed

#

put everything on him and pushed him off to loot everything else

tame helm
#

but they only despawn after u travel to a different level

worn nacelle
#

could barely move him

#

reloaded and he was gone

worn nacelle
tame helm
#

yes

#

but never trust them for long term loot storage

worn nacelle
#

there are still corpses next to the starter village

#

from my first loot corpses

worn nacelle
tame helm
#

a

worn nacelle
#

can't send pictures here, rip

hallow solstice
#

think stalker 2 will have a mosin?

haughty cove
hallow solstice
#

id love it tbh

#

whether it would be common or not idk tho

#

id love a hidden gun like the 2000 round PKM or the 7.62x54 ak

reef stag
#

im looking to play cop again yall know some good mods for it

hallow solstice
#

a mosin that uses the SVD ammo but has to be found in a specific quest line would be neat

hallow solstice
#

i LOVED my gun slinger playthrough

reef stag
#

alright bet

hallow solstice
#

it feels vanilla but has just enough new stuff with the mutants, meds, and guns that its really neat

reef stag
#

perfect

#

thanks mate

hallow solstice
#

just be warned about the burers though, they're OP.

#

like genuinly OP. bring vogs or a gauss rifle when fighting alot of em lmao

reef stag
#

oh alright lmao

hallow solstice
#

that one mission where i needed to kill both in the train hangar took me ages

#

but once i had a gauss any burer after that insta died so

reef stag
#

damn

finite dragon
crystal temple
#

i got trolled by stalker anomaly

wispy pier
#

is the code for brain scrocher doors cracked?
its been like 14 years now

crystal temple
#

idk

hallow solstice
#

worded it wrong, they use the same ammo and id like a mosin that uses that ammo

woeful cape
#

wait, do mosins in stalker not use 54r? i've always played freedom so i always use NATO guns lmao

tame helm
#

stalker doesn't have mosins

#

except for mods

hallow solstice
#

yeah stalker never had a mosin, which is why id like it

#

SVD did though, same with the PKM i think?

woeful cape
#

ah, anomaly has one so i assumed it was in basegame, mb

hallow solstice
#

and that one special clear sky AK

hallow solstice
woeful cape
#

man i hope s2 has anomaly levels of weapon choices

wispy pier
#

anomaly is making peeps think that a lot of stuff is in the original game

woeful cape
#

i completed cs, and bits of the other two, but anomaly is just so good

#

it's like the best parts of stalker jammed together

wispy pier
#

no new stalker should start with anomaly

woeful cape
#

100% agreed

#

the others will suck comparatively

#

which feels bad to say, but it would definitely be tricky going back after getting used to anomaly

wispy pier
#

you either have to play atleast one game to proceed with anomaly

robust river
#

Yeah, as big of a fan as I am of anomaly it just isn't the same. I cant bring myself to replay it from how clunky it feels, but playing through SoC for the first time was phenomenal

wispy pier
#

its that half of the fanbase that ruins the experience for new stalkers

hallow solstice
#

i dont want 5+ variants of AKs again

wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

stalker 2 should have the originals and then some more, but it should fit the theme. i dont want the zone to have 90+ unique weapons

wispy pier
#

its kinda shame that you cant upgrade in shoc

#

i would like a repairing animations tbh

hallow solstice
#

stalker 2 shouldnt play like anomaly

#

i dont wanna have to constantly repair guns, i want it to be like the stalker games

#

anomaly although fun and with tons of addon variety isnt classic stalker, it plays very very diffrently

#

borrows too much of misery's annoying mechanics

wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

its tedious. you dont need to oil your gun every 60 shots or else it will jam

woeful cape
#

you do need to replace armour plates after getting shot twice, though

wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

@woeful cape sure

#

but duct tape wouldnt fix that would it

woeful cape
#

i'm just being anal lmao

hallow solstice
#

or glue

woeful cape
#

oh yeah for sure, you'd need new ceramic plate

#

for gameplay purposes that would be extremely unfun

hallow solstice
#

right

#

anyway, stalker at its core is actually very casual

wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

yeah snorks are somethin else..

woeful cape
#

mutants and rad/psy areas imo

wispy pier
woeful cape
#

anomalies are easy enough to avoid as long as you're paying attention

hallow solstice
#

i imagine stalker 2 will have the same design philosophy, i doubt they wanna make something like anomaly

woeful cape
#

snorks are why i always carry the highedt tier shotgun i can afford

wispy pier
woeful cape
#

mmhm, i'm hoping s2 is a true stalker game

hallow solstice
#

i dont want magazines or limb health or any of that silliness, just a good ol fashioned stalker game with good graphics and locations

wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

i havent

wispy pier
#

try it

#

even gsc guys played it

woeful cape
#

limb health is an ok mechanic as long as healing them isn't too tedius

#

like if you get a broken leg while too far from a shop/medic you shouldn't have to spend half an hour irl holding w to crawl to a shop, that's bad gameplay

#

but imo non-game ruining debuffs add more flavour to gameplay

finite dragon
wispy pier
#

godamn controller

wispy pier
finite dragon
wispy pier
#

removed probably because would like decrease playing time by 70%

robust river
#

i hope there isnt, I hate vehicles in anygame especially survival style

finite dragon
wispy pier
#

like 70% of time you just walking from cordon to garbage and back to garbage and then to bar and then to darkvalley and then back to cordon and then back to bar

finite dragon
#

or something else

wispy pier
finite dragon
#

eh

wispy pier
#

x ray engine wasnt too good back then for cars

finite dragon
#

imagine if STALKER was made on GTA's engine smile_strelok

#

Have fun driving and steal cars and cannot swim

robust river
#

it seems like they're going a real cinematic route with stalker 2. I didn't like how many unique NPC faces I was seeing

wispy pier
#

the coop open world suggestion is cooll

finite dragon
#

like nimble feels_bad_stalk

wispy pier
#

i think S2 would have more cutscenes and not like 5 through the whole game

finite dragon
#

either way I hope stalker 2 has unmirrored weapon models

robust river
#

no familiar faces, but for example the guy dancing with the piano in the trailer. You're going to see that with every playthrough regardless of faction most likely

finite dragon
#

lmao

robust river
#

scripted encounters ruin the randomness I come to love about multiple stalker playthroughs

wispy pier
#

scripted encounters are in the org trilo right?

finite dragon
#

Like Clear Sky and SoC

wispy pier
#

holy s*it i tried skipping brain scrocher and pripyat monoliths are veeeeeeeeeeeeeery hard

wispy pier
woeful cape
#

download more ram

wispy pier
finite dragon
woeful cape
#

actually tho, i'm sorry to hear that

finite dragon
wispy pier
wispy pier
hallow solstice
#

i better hear a stalker say wormfood in s2

woeful cape
#

i like the gameplay difference monolith makes tho

finite dragon
woeful cape
#

goes from rpg to fps when they're involved

woeful cape
#

if that makes sense

wispy pier
#

i would stalker say rubles in S2

finite dragon
#

Cheaper

wispy pier
finite dragon
wispy pier
#

its not good for other games

finite dragon
wispy pier
#

over heats cant upgrade

hallow solstice
#

Most computers these days can handle stalker

finite dragon
#

laptop crap

hallow solstice
#

But an AIO sure af ain’t gonna run stalker 2 unless you bought one that’s thousands of dollars

wispy pier
finite dragon
wispy pier
finite dragon
woeful cape
#

instead of a pc, buy an sks, 1400rds of ammo, and a gas mask and trenchcoat

wispy pier
woeful cape
#

like $1100cad total, far less than a gaming pc

#

play stalker irl

hallow solstice
wispy pier
finite dragon
woeful cape
#

anomaly does lmao, mb

finite dragon
wispy pier
finite dragon
wispy pier
#

whatever idc about anomaly shrug

woeful cape
robust river
#

main draw is how cheap it is

hallow solstice
#

That Russian ammo ban is gonna reek havoc just wait

robust river
#

ah yeah, forgot about that

woeful cape
#

tbf mine is all chinese, and i'm in canada

finite dragon
wispy pier
#

19 gigs for stalker anomaly nah im skippin

robust river
#

I mean we've been prepping for this for years though. There are tons of US made AK's already in the market

hallow solstice
#

Feel bad for people with mosins

robust river
#

definitely will spike but I see it going back down in the near future

hallow solstice
#

7.62x54 is gonna be raaaaaaaare

finite dragon
#

but eh at least it's chambered in 5.56 instead

robust river
#

some 5.45's as well

finite dragon
#

or something

robust river
#

from russia but you can get like bulgaria essientially to make a clone and ship to US

finite dragon
finite dragon
hallow solstice
#

Not sure why biden even banned Russian ammo imports

robust river
hallow solstice
#

I genuinely don’t get it, there’s no reasoning behind it

robust river
#

I can see why military personnel prefer the smaller round though

finite dragon
#

and not explode

woeful cape
hallow solstice
finite dragon
#

Either way 5.56 is crap imo because it fragments

hallow solstice
#

Wasn’t even in headlines or considered apart of the gun control debate, idk what the gain was from banning it

finite dragon
#

and it's from NATO smile_strelok

woeful cape
finite dragon
#

New wall

woeful cape
#

yet we can still buy wk180s, mcrs, type 81s, etc.

finite dragon
#

then fall of the wall

robust river
woeful cape
#

it's just faffy politicking, it never means anythibg

finite dragon
#

wooooooo

hallow solstice
#

Like, why ban ammo instead of not doing that deal

tame helm
#

america: Russia bad!!! USSR!!! socialism!!!

woeful cape
hallow solstice
#

It’s just confusing. Tbh only reasonable explanation to me is American fun manufacturers lobby for import bans on foreign products so they can sell more domestically

finite dragon
#

either way can someone tell me that how a 3rd world country got M4s instead of AKs

hallow solstice
#

The US gave them to them

#

😗

finite dragon
hallow solstice
#

Any country with m4s we gave it to them

finite dragon
#

Not gonna let us expanding our AK arsenal

robust river
finite dragon
#

we just have an RPK

tame helm
#

century arms

finite dragon
#

century piss

tame helm
#

yes

finite dragon
#

Still prefer Canadian M4s imo since C79

hallow solstice
#

Apparently the ban was in response to the novachok poisonings last year but that’s probably bogus

finite dragon
#

also who tf is putting faction emblems on our messages

hallow solstice
#

I hope stalker 2 has iconic voice lines

#

I want monolith to sound like the monolith

finite dragon
hallow solstice
#

New monolith voice lines would be sad

hallow solstice
robust river
#

I look forward to seeing what they'll do to psy effects and what sound design directions they will go with

hallow solstice
#

Gun slinger suicide animations

tame helm
#

constant faction emblem

robust river
#

I would like an existential crisis everytime I got hit by a psy-bolt

finite dragon
hallow solstice
#

Tbh idk why people are so worried about stalker 2 being on console

#

Stalker is already a super casual shoot em up game, idk why people think it being on Xbox will somehow make it bad

hallow solstice
finite dragon
#

Fortnite kids, CoD kids

hallow solstice
#

Weren’t most people who first played stalker kids lmao

woeful cape
finite dragon
robust river
#

I never saw it as casual honestly, until endgame anyway

woeful cape
#

would be a neat gimmick

hallow solstice
#

And why would kids playing a single player game matter

finite dragon
#

"heuehehe stalker crap cod guud heuhehe"

robust river
#

console concerns are warranted after so many games got ruined to appeal to general audience

#

I think stalker personally will be fine

woeful cape
#

mmhm, i trust gsc

hallow solstice
finite dragon
#

Stalker on console will more than likely have no mods

#

They wanna add paid cosmetics

hallow solstice
#

Stalker itself was incredibly generic other than its new setting and atmosphere

finite dragon
#

🤮🤮

robust river
#

if stalker 2 isn't fine, the community will mod it back. It's a win-win really

finite dragon
finite dragon
#

Anomaly is great

void vortex
#

If you read this; a military assault is in progress at your faction base at this very moment

finite dragon
keen dew
#

we thought you were on our side!

robust river
#

Deserts the military, stages blackout, just to be more radical than the military

hallow solstice
#

Tbh GSC doesn’t need to change its game to appeal to a console fanbase its a silly argument

copper sky
hallow solstice
#

What about stalker wouldn’t be workable on console? Realistically?

keen dew
#

stalker is so good, console cant handle

#

only 2009 pc can

robust river
#

the difficulty

hallow solstice
#

That’s why there’s difficulty sliders

void vortex
#

Military is like that one guy that is overworked and (borderline) alcoholic. Duty is that same guy but instead it's that one larper in his 40's that shows up to airsoft matches and tries to work with real life military tactics

keen dew
#

i think the AI might aim too fast for console player

hallow solstice
#

And why would a game need to be easier just because it’s on console

finite dragon
#

aim assist

#

and no mods for lunch

robust river
void vortex
#

I went the Duty route in CoP

#

good suits though for combat

robust river
#

based

void vortex
#

anomaly protection and artifact slots are poop

finite dragon
keen dew
#

eheheh, neutral player not getting shanked

tame helm
#

duty route is gear and freedom route is artifact reliant

hallow solstice
#

You get an AK in the first 10 minutes of SOC

robust river
keen dew
#

nah, you can go loner and still have the same effect

#

you just hate duty more

hallow solstice
#

Tbh you gotta explore more for a decent rifle in fallout than stalker

void vortex
#

Duty gets too much hate

tame helm
#

yep

void vortex
#

I like them

keen dew
#

i don't even know what freedom's goal is anymore

void vortex
#

Duty fans just tend to be fanatics lol

#

irl that is

hallow solstice
keen dew
#

they say they want to research, but but eco bois???

void vortex
#

Ecologist ain't no fighting force

tame helm
#

freedom wants to protect the zone or smth idk

robust river
#

imagine being an anarchist, imagine being a neutral

tame helm
#

i forgot

void vortex
#

The goal of Freedom makes perfect sense

finite dragon
#

but eh they protekt da northe

tame helm
#

and also extremely aggressive

finite dragon
void vortex
tame helm
#

after they git brainwashed that is

keen dew
#

duty have noble goal and i really want to join ngl

#

am too weak to join tho

finite dragon
tame helm
finite dragon
#

but hey at least you get drill trainings

#

instead of spraying AKs

tame helm
#

atleast u get an obokan

void vortex
robust river
#

the timeline of many legends

keen dew
#

i'll just stick with the mobile lab

tame helm
#
  1. get shot by a stray bullet coming from the freedom base because someone was high
finite dragon
void vortex
#

Freedom seems to go toward the established way of thinking over there

robust river
#

imagine being neutral with bandits

void vortex
#

I actually like Freedom a bit more over Duty

tame helm
#

freedom is ecologist enemy

#

for some reason

keen dew
#

bruh, the bandit is neutral to no one lol

keen dew
void vortex
finite dragon
woeful cape
finite dragon
#

I forgot his name

keen dew
finite dragon
void vortex
#

They carry them all the time in CoP

#

and the towers in SoC

finite dragon
tame helm
void vortex
#

being hit while high must hurt a lot more though. it increases your sense in feeling

woeful cape
#

joined them in cs and all i got was a lousy lr300

robust river
#

he thinks intoxicated degenerates will stand a chance against radical ex-spetsnaz

hallow solstice
#

Joining bandits in clear sky gives you a nice g36c

#

Also full seva upgrades

finite dragon
hallow solstice
#

Love em or hate em, CS bandits are kinda chad’s..

keen dew
#

imagine not being able to waltz into an anomaly barely unharmed

void vortex
robust river
#

freedom only has to worry about monolith

finite dragon
#

wake every night to patrol streets

woeful cape
void vortex
#

Duty, Mercs, Military, Monolith, Bandits

finite dragon
#

and the bloodsucker village

keen dew
#

in freedom's defense they did take up to defend the barrier

finite dragon
robust river
#

that's just a matter of survival, not a sacrifice

#

Duty would've done the same

keen dew
#

hey, im just trying to be nice to both faction

void vortex
#

Duty is so brave. Deserters trying to take on weed people and still not succeeding over the 3 games

finite dragon
#

too many died

keen dew
#

seeing as how i can't walk without them handholding me through the zone

finite dragon
#

4 alive

robust river
finite dragon
robust river
#

LE WEED

finite dragon
#

rEd? that must be communist

void vortex
#

If anything. Freedom is about turbo Ukraine nationalism

#

Duty are just old crappy USSR boomer ways

woeful cape
#

anyone know that benjamin franklin quotw about how someone that trades liberty for safety deserves neither?

finite dragon
woeful cape
#

freedom fights for liberty regardless of their safety, they deserve both

robust river
#

Red just aint communist

finite dragon
keen dew
#

ecologist watching the arguement folding out silently

tame helm
#

america has red = communism? 👀

void vortex
#

Also the fact that Duty is known for their over consumption in vodka and no smoking laws kind of inforce the boomer USSR idea\

finite dragon
tame helm
#

Le patriotism

void vortex
#

How Freedom was created: Yo bro let's team up and wear flecktarn.
How Duty was created: FGJKDFJKDFGDSGDGKDGDGGKMGGMMRFKGHNFGHNFGDNHJHNJKRNRJNGRGR

hallow solstice
#

If you watch duty patrols fight freedom ones tho the dutiers demolish every time

#

If duty had more men freedom would get wiped out

void vortex
#

then why don't they

#

👀

hallow solstice
#

Not enough men

#

Zone only has so many guys

finite dragon
finite dragon
keen dew
void vortex
#

Also from a game play perspective. Freedom are absolutely a joke in CS

#

I tried to take over the Duty base and they all get eaten up by Duty patrols

keen dew
#

right, they lost dank valley to the bandits which is their Ex-base

void vortex
#

With Duty taking over Freedom was easier

hallow solstice
#

I tried to assault freedom base, got bored after they kept grenade spamming me at the garbage to dark valley entrance

#

Never finished

#

Like it was genuinely constant how many nades they were chucking

#

And with the 3 bandage bleeds I just could not be assed

tame helm
#

also most of duty aren't even military deserters

void vortex
#

You kind of have to live from Artifacts in CS or bleeding resisting

woeful cape
#

bleed resist artefacts are key to success

robust river
#

Realistically, the zone has to be destroyed. It cant be allowed to just exist as some play pen for lost souls. Governments are getting their hands into it(Mercs/Military are an example of this) and will weaponize it against eachother. Factions like ecologists further this too imo.

General Tachenko knew this and knew he couldnt trust even the spetsnaz to actively destroy the Zone without weaponizing it themselves, a seperation was needed. Every other faction has selfish ambitions of profit or retreat from society. Treat the Zone like the Ring, it has to be destroyed before its disease and wonders tempt others

tame helm
#

resist rad artifacts, embrace bleedinf

void vortex
#

Freedom all the way

woeful cape
#

freedom all the way, brother

finite dragon
tame helm
#

Join duty and save the innocent

finite dragon
#

Join monolith and assault the stone

tame helm
#

join bandits and bully loners

finite dragon
void vortex
#

Join bandit and bully the innocent

keen dew
tame helm
#

join loners and be yourself

void vortex
#

Poor and helpless

tame helm
#

side effects include faction propaganda and bandit bullying

void vortex
#

And military target practice

finite dragon
#

Join scientist and pick up cool shiny spheres troll

tame helm
#

join military and get abandoned

keen dew
#

free car tho

tame helm
#

free heli doe

void vortex
finite dragon
tame helm
#

join ccon and rule the zone

finite dragon
#

Go into zone to get rich troll
die a horrible death and become a zombie TrollSad

tame helm
#

#upyourgrindset

tame helm
#

and then die to some amnesiac

keen dew
#

1.Die
2.Die

tame helm
finite dragon
#

The quest givers expect you to voyage on a huge dangerous journey only for enough roubles to heal yourself and buy 2 magazines for your pistol

tame helm
#

true

robust river
#

Any of you looked at roadside picnic?

void vortex
#

Your inventory: supplies to last you 4 months
Other people their inventory: a rusty sawn off shotgun, 3 shotgun shells and one bread. Still owns you hard somehow

robust river
#

if you havent maybe look up a summary of it, its a book that inspired the movie stalker is based off of

#

I'd also take the time to look up Noosphere theory, really interesting

#

Stalker movie is also nice, it's considered one of the worst film disasters in history(not from content) they had to reshoot the entire movie 3 times. Some of the actors got major health complications from standing in/around chemical waste

fervent bear
#

I'm pretty much New to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series since I played in my childhood and remember nothing about it.

Is there any good way to start stalking through the Exclusion zone?

#

Got all 3 games, but there's plethora of mods that I don't understand how they work

#

I played the Shadow of Chernobyl today, and It was horrible because of the Awful gunplay, even on Master difficulty.

opaque parrot
#

Play CS and then CoP

#

Then only after that try the mods

#

Or if you've already played vanilla, try stuff like AA2, Radiophobia, OGSR, Anomaly+EFP, Dead Air, OP2

void vortex
#

Mods are poopoo first run. But i'm not your dad

#

🍝

fervent bear
#

I see, Vanilla first and Mods later

#

Btw, Idk why as a Child, Shadow of Chernobyl's gunplay was "Realistic"

#

Now that I think about it, It's horrible XD

#

Especiallu with Makarov at the start

fervent bear
opaque parrot
fervent bear
opaque parrot
fervent bear
#

I played in my childhood XD

opaque parrot
#

I play all 3 once every year, the games keep calling me back

fervent bear
#

YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH

#

Sorry

silver fern
#

hello

fervent bear
finite dragon
#

f_military 👎
f_free_stalkers 👍

#

loner good
bandit good

ember oracle
finite dragon
#

💪 f_mercs

wispy pier
#

i wanna leave the zone

lucid elm
#

Rude

wispy pier
#

nah get pranked

lucid elm
cedar forum
#

Why does he eat so much???

#

XD

wispy pier
#

well

#

gotta keep the strength up somehow in a nuclear blast zone

void vortex
#

DOG FOOD IS MORE VALUABLE THAN THIS

finite dragon
#

The normal version for S.T.A.L.K.E.R is available for pre-order on Amazon. We'll at least it's showing up like that for me.

finite dragon
#

stand still

woeful cape
finite dragon
#

Where can i get food in OLR?

#

from the trader or from the enemies you killed

#

A

#

yes

#

i just dont know what to do in olr rn lol. I found strelok stash and i got a new task to find someone idk where tf they are

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Where the hecc is that controller in factory

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this mod is just= here's a new task, you need to find someone but im not gonna tell where tf the guy is

digital elk
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so should i play clear sky before the first one?

woeful cape
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no, it's best to play them in release order, not story order

finite dragon
digital elk
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why not story order? just wondering..

worn nacelle
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I could look at what the problem is if it's just looking for stuff

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aka a location

finite dragon
worn nacelle
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I'm playing it

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pretty buggy from my experience but nice

woeful cape
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soc has the least polish, gameplay wise, so going from cs to soc is a big gameplay downgrade

worn nacelle
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lmao

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and a bug I can't find a solution to 😭

finite dragon
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you mean anomaly?

worn nacelle
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but I got an actual problem, that is ruining my gameplay

finite dragon
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Where is this heccing controller??

worn nacelle
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walk closer

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same here so 👀

finite dragon
finite dragon
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hmm im not sure if i can help you because this kind of stuff never happened to me before in my playthrough.

worn nacelle
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Hmm, is there anyone I could even ask about?

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Cuz different saves still do the same

finite dragon
worn nacelle
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ty

finite dragon
worn nacelle
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and I'll be praying cuz I'm afraid of playing

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cuz an npc that has to do with a quest already died

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so those die at random as well, so that's scary

finite dragon
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where did you ask the npc for a job? in cordon or in the bar?

worn nacelle
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like

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you know in soc when you go into the new trader

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and right after you go on the top

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where people die as soon as you die and you get introduced to the duty?

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the barn thingy above that, next tot he freedom base

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the dude that tells you to join them

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died before I could report back, and now his corpse is marked for the mission but I can't talk to him

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cuz well, he dead dead

finite dragon
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ohh ok. tbh you shouldn't join them because the duty commander even tells you to not join them on attacking freedom base because freedom has strong weapons and sniper

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Finally, toad is selling some real stuff

digital elk
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cant run my game, worked fine last night.

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any suggestions?

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playing on steam

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xrengine (32 bit) is running in the background

finite dragon
digital elk
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but it wont seem to start like last night

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okay ill try that

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cant find local files under properties

finite dragon
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huh

digital elk
digital elk
finite dragon
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yes

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and you will find "verify file" and click it

digital elk
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under what section? cant find the verify file

digital elk
woeful cape
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you can hide the cd key by opening your steam overlay, and there will be a window with the key on it, and there's a lil checkbox you can tick that prevents it from popping up again

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once you have launched the game, i mean

digital elk
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still doing the same thing..

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like it will load it up, go to black screen for a second, then just have the icon of the game on the task bar. even tho steam says its running

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and every time i click the icon, it will go black, like its bring up the game on the screen. then go right back to the task bar

wispy pier
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bro theres actually emissions in the next two games!!?

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holy crap im so hyped for playing CS and CoP

wispy pier
finite dragon
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yes

wispy pier
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when emissions appear do they damage mutants like controllers and bloosuckers?

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or is it only for the parasite humans?

finite dragon
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everything

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even birds

wispy pier
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damn

finite dragon
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and new kind of artifact will appears

wispy pier
finite dragon
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Birds

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Them birds fall from the sky 😭

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There's a stalker movie?

modern mason
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Yes

finite dragon
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Bruh. I did not know that

modern mason
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Its different than the games

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It was made before them

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Its pretty good imo

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Watch it

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Stalker (1979)